Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!!
Carol, Be very careful feeding raw fish. Raw salmon has a parasite that can be fatal and raw fish in general has alot of parasites to be wary of. Make sure all raw meat is organic and pasture raised if beef is used. Bob - Original Message - From: carolG To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 1:31 PM Subject: Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!! Aldi, no vaccinations in the 9 yrs owner here but prior probably so which I will never know. I was iffy on the raw fish for the parasites and familiar with Ian's work. I know cooking kills immune system, she was raw for 9 yrs but sadly only loved game meat and sometimes raw ground chicken--otherwise no supplement--nothing--she became deficient plus a bad tooth may have brought her system down--I won't know as she never complains or visits vet--we made up with that this time since sick. Only drug in 9 yrs. as owner was recent--reason for outrageous skin attacknot way better and she is more in control I give her raw ground up veggies with her foods too! Plus supplements muscle tested for...I can say improvements are evident even to my skeptic hubby--he's finally turning around his tune and seeing results carol -- From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 2:03:10 PM Subject: Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!! I also feed our dogs raw foods, and only on occasion, a bowl of high quality kibble. Its a salmon and rice kibble from Skinners, but that's like 2-4 times a month! When was the last time your dog got a shot? I stopped giving them to my dogs, and will be breeding without using any kind of chemicals. My dogs won't have papers, but they will be healthier than the ones that are mandatory vaccinated, dewormed, and whatever. You should try feeding her the fish raw, since cooking literally kills enzymes and minerals. It does make a difference, raw and cooked. Check out Billingshurst, Ian. He's a vet from Australia and has now we have to suffer the consequences, as we both suffer in the end. Aldi On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:17 PM, carolG cgiam...@yahoo.com wrote: Aldi, I can totally relate to your itch dog concerns. Mine can to stop when I raise my voice saying hey and she immediately stops; I have been using a Chinese herb vet gave us for skin but she was trying to get her skin to lessen from the red color. I am not -- ---. Thanks Dan for clay info...I have making it as a paste first before applying to dry skin; now wetting down skin first a little and then applying the paste or sometimes just putting down the paste directly to skin which is really most of the time however. I don't think this dog will have one old hair on her body when I am finished w/her. thanks Dan!! Carol, using Living Clay product by aboutclay.com---detox powder, 1 pound size and use a little each time so always fresh instead of making it all at same time... She is drinking clay water too! 2T clay = 1 ounce... From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 11:44:21 AM Subject: Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!! Try hydrating it first. This means mixing it with water to whatever consistency you want and letting it sit for a while until all the clay particles are evenly wetted with the water. Clay can be made into a gel or a slurry, depending on how much water you use. If you put it on your hair dry and then wet it, it could become very Dan On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com wrote: Carol, What's living clay? Here in Germany, they have something called Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:36 PM, carolG cgiam...@yahoo.com wrote: I know this is CS talk, but in addition since tried on my dog, I am now using Living Clay for dog's Lupus RECOVERY. She's been drinking it for 2. Carolg
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
Ah, but GMO's ARE bad for you. Nature will selectively modify organisms over time... basically the fittest survive. For man to alter the genetic makeup of a cell by introducing foreign genes (from animals into plants for instance) is sheer folly, frought with all sorts of potential catastrophies not only for the flora involved (and others nearby), but also by the humans that end up ingesting these frankenfoods. Allergic reactions are just one of the potential side effects. We cannot adopt to changes quickly, it can take centuries. GMO foods have the potential of wiping out all living things and should be banned immediatly. - Original Message - From: Alan Jones To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:09 AM Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive The point is not so much, are GMOs bad for you, it's consumers have a right to know which foods are GMO. Do you don't disagree with that? Alan On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote: I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and vegetables. In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design. Big deal. -- Alan Jones
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
Steve, That statement is shocking. Do you work for Monsanto or some other agrifood corp? Nature does nothing by accident... genetic changes occur over thousands of years for survivability and those changes occur within a given species. Thus, animal genes NEVER enter into a plant cell in nature. The practice of genetic engineering is not only unhealthful, it is fraught with all sorts of dangerous outcomes. Allergic reactions in people who eat the GMO food is just one outcome. The practice of genetically altering plants could potentially wipe out all life on earth and should be banned. People have already died from eating GMO corn (Starlink variety). Insects ingesting these plants have also died en masse. Birds (and bats) may also be dying due to genetically modified foods (grains and other plants). This practice MUST be stopped now. - Original Message - From: Steve G To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:05 AM Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and vegetables. In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design. Big deal. --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com Subject: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I think you all know that I am not a sp mmer. I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural wellness and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent requirement now to stand up and speak out about GMO. I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the integrity of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO) alfalfa. The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe that consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and our agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm the integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of organic farmers. We need to show them that we do indeed care! Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts! http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=.120471.eeehU8source=taf Thanks! And please, please, forward this to everyone you know A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
Richard, We will have to agree to disagree. They DO NOT know what the outcomes of GMO will do over time... there hasn't been enough time elapsed to do proper studies, which would take 20 - 30 years. Secondly, if you've ever eaten organically grown produce you will find that most of it tastes thousands of times better than GMO foods, tomatoes included. Plants having their genes altered by producing their own glyphosphate (Roundup) kill indescriminately. Bugs and animals eating these Roundup Ready plants often die (as BT cotton has shown in India and elsewhere). Often, the bugs who eat these GMO plants develop resistence to the toxins and require even MORE and more potent insecticides and this too has shown to be true in studies. It is a fallacy that less insecticides are used, more are used and more potent and deadly ones at that. Fooling with nature is sheer stupidity built on greed and has the potential of killing all life on earth. Bob - Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:39 AM Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive I would agree that it would not be a good idea to genetically modify stuff blindly without having any idea what the modification will do. But as far as I know, they DO know what these modifications will do, which is why they do them in the first place. Tomatoes that have a longer shelf life and taste better, plants that have a better resistance to parasites, so they don't require chemical sprays to protect them, etc. Calling them frankenfood brings to mind an image of the superstitious villagers circling the castle with torches, in a total panic because they don't have a clue what is going on inside. Better to find out what is going on, get some real knowledge of the subject, and then panic. :-) And I'm certainly not for blindly accepting anything like GMO either. But I know nothing about it, so need to find out before I take a position either for or against. As for evolution, it is caused in a number of ways: 1. Changing environmental conditions can cause organisms to die off that are unable to adapt, leaving only those that do adapt to reproduce and thereby replicate their genes. 2. Changing sexual preferences can have the same effect, but many orders of magnitude faster than 1. 3. Pure chance -- gamma rays, chemicals, or other accidents can cause genetic modifications that, if they are successful, will begin a new line of organisms, perhaps even drastically different from their predecessors, all depending on the nature of the modification. As I understand it, random accidental genetic modifications happen to all living things all the time, but since most result in changes that cause the new organism to fail, they never see the light of day. There is a lot to evolution. I highly recommend Richard Dawkins's book The Selfish Gene. Dick -- From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 9:18:39 AM Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive Steve, That statement is shocking. Do you work for Monsanto or some other agrifood corp? Nature does nothing by accident... genetic changes occur over thousands of years for survivability and those changes occur within a given species. Thus, animal genes NEVER enter into a plant cell in nature. The practice of genetic engineering is not only unhealthful, it is fraught with all sorts of dangerous outcomes. Allergic reactions in people who eat the GMO food is just one outcome. The practice of genetically altering plants could potentially wipe out all life on earth and should be banned. People have already died from eating GMO corn (Starlink variety). Insects ingesting these plants have also died en masse. Birds (and bats) may also be dying due to genetically modified foods (grains and other plants). This practice MUST be stopped now.
Re: CSIntroduction
Ed, Rest assured you've bought a great unit. I have their SG7 Pro model that makes 5 gallons at a time (in about 2 - 3 hours). Your unit will take longer but will make excellent crystal clear ionic/colloidal silver. It's very easy to use and shuts off automatically when the solutiion is made. Bob - Original Message - From: Ed Nelson To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 3:17 PM Subject: CSIntroduction Hi, My name is Ed and I'm new to this group. I have been interested in and used as needed ionic/colloidal silver for about six years now. It has been very effective for me especially in early stages of colds and flu. This has been a tough winter so far and I have spent about $180 for 64 oz of Earthborn Colloidal Silver. (16, 16, and 32) In order to save money I have decided to start making my own and just purchased a unit from SilverGen. I haven't recieved it yet but I'll look forward to any constructive words of wisdom. Best of health to all of you! Ed
Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED)
Tony, Do you add any CS to the Vit.C/bicarb mixture? Bob - Original Message - From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: Re: CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED) Hi Bob, Nasal flushing. I've had great success using a mix of vit C and Bicarb. What I'm doing is 2g ascorbic acid powder plus a teaspoonful of bicarb in a cup of warm water. Stir well. I do many flushes at a time. use a 50ml syringe with a short length of silicon tube and do one nostril, snort out, then the other, over and and over til the cup is done. This is profoundly better than doing one or two nostril flushes. OK, Tony On 4 Mar 2010 at 7:36, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote about : Subject : CSCS for injection (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE What was the (I believe it was 2) CS that was good for injection. How would one use CS for injection. I am troubled by sinus infections from time to time. The cs I take does not appear to get to my sius's. I do use a Nebulizer with cs in it. I breath in through mouth and out of nose. When I am done my nose is wet from cs. This also does not help my Sinus's. I was wondering about injections of CS. How much how often and what kind and why only certain Ones were for injection. I usually get rid of problem with an antibiotic. The nebulizer does help me with by problem of getting Chest colds or worse. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS(LL) Have you heard of this name change ?? Sweeteners.
Ode, I must disagree. The FDA should be in charge of safety, not efficacy. Thus, so long as something isn't going to poison or kill you, it should be available regardless of whether or not it works. Truth in advertising is another issue entirely and should not be subjected to FDA approval. There is far too much power within the FDA and it is causing us our basic freedoms. They will soon try and make Vit. C a prescription drug (as well as hundreds of other harmless supplements and nutrients) even though no one has ever died from it. I'll take the risk AND my freedom to choose how I want to medicate if at all as opposed to having my choices suppressed entirely. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:36 AM Subject: Re: CS(LL) Have you heard of this name change ?? Sweeteners. Well, I make and use CS because it's something I can do. When it's not enough, I have no problem hitting the feed and seed store or asking the dentist for anti-biotics. Doctors under attack are more expensive than dentists told about a fantasy tooth ache, animal drugs are the same as people drugs and I cut out the middle men that pay $100,000 a year for malpractice insurance...except...if I choose them wrong, I can't sue for more than being my own dead or disabled dog...and the lawyers to do that will cost far more than the payoff. It probably cost a billion dollars to get Vioxx approved, so I can see why the resistance to having it yanked because the risk of corking off is .7% But lookie. I hear all the time how the FDA should get out of our lives on one hand, and burrow further into them on the other. What do you WANT? Freedom or safety. You can't have it both ways. With freedom comes risk. With safety, lack of choice...and you pay for that lack. We don't want to pay the FDA the billions it takes to do the testing, so we pay the Pharm in the cost of the drugs that do get approved to cover those which don't and they write their own ticket accordingly. For every billion the Pharm spends getting a drug approved, they spend 5 billion on the ones that don't pass the initial phases...and you wonder why approved drugs cost so much and why they might want to fudge the data just a little bit and balance the risk of being sued against the probability of staying solvent. The cost of that pill is something like 25 cents for the pill and 25 dollars to insure against possible risks if ANY one dies or comes to harm, disregarding everyone that doesn't. Taking drugs is not safe and NOT taking drugs when you need some is also not safe. Meanwhile, people make a big stink about CS not having the approval it deserves, but won't pay the FDA to do it and the Pharm can't profit from it to cover the cost. Following our OWN logic if the Pharm won't spend a billion dollars to get CS approved to satisfy OUR demand for safety, it will be outlawed and it's all the FDAs fault for not doing what it hasn't been paid to do. The FDA has done the right thing. Don't ask and if you do we'll just say no to cover our unpaid buttholes. [We don't know, we haven't been paid to find out and we have found no reason to want to know OR find out..yet you ask us? ..go away kid, hide in a water closet someplace and jerk your own chain.] If you live your own life and die your own death, you have freedom...but it's risky and a sharp mind is gonna be your best and only friend. If you spend it looking for approval, you'll be licking a lot of corrupt boots that pick your pockets to pay for the safety you demand...but at least you can blame those boots for the heal grinding on your head when it turns out that you are one of those that doesn't fit the odds of success. It's YOUR fault that I'm different and ignorant..pay up It's YOUR fault that I weighed the risks against benefits and came up short No one body can afford that, so every body pays a kings ransom...and the oddball STILL corks off. [ Damned if you do, damned if you don't ] Get it? Is it better to have Gov't in control of your choices? Well, it's hard to sue the Gov't and they can just print money to pick your pockets behind your back to pay for ten times as many leaches to tell you that you have blood to suck, but it's not YOUR blood that's leaving the hole in your safety seeking head. How many people do you want to pay to convince you that your own life isn't yours so you don't have to take the risk of living it?.. then bitch and moan when you can't, but still have to pay all those people to tell you that you aren't damned when any way you look at it, you are. [Nobody dies for you and the only difference is who you get to blame] What IS blame? It's placing ALL the power to make choices into the hands of the people that YOU say don't care, making yourself both innocent and totally helpless...your very own victim. People go to Casinos
Re: CSAgave Syrup, is it good for you?
Steve, Have you considered acupuncture for your wife's migraines? It can be curative for those. Bob - Original Message - From: Steve G To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:37 PM Subject: Re: CSAgave Syrup, is it good for you? Unlike corn syrup, blue Agave syrup does not cause my wife to have three days of severe migraines. So, I'm happy to use it to make home-made chili sauce, ketchup and so on since it is near impossible to find those things without corn syrup. I'm not a raw food person, so whether this stuff is considered 'raw' or 'cooked' is of no significance to me. A friend of mine has suggested a number of times that a raw food diet might help my wife's migraines become manageable. She specifically suggested going to the Creative Health Institute in Union City here in Michigan. I found their website at http://www.creativehealthinstitute.com/ and forwarded it to my wife for her perusal. She was thinking that this might be worth exploring, but when she started reading about wheat grass enemas, that pretty much ended that discussion. I'm not commenting taking issue with the raw food approach, either negatively or positively. Just that the enema thing was a big hangup for my wife. Cheers. --- On Sun, 2/28/10, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote: From: Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com Subject: CSAgave Syrup, is it good for you? To: Silver Post silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 5:09 PM http://www.living-foods.com/articles/agave.html -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSusing silverpuppy question
orv, You probably need to use distilled water that has no mineral content at all. - Original Message - From: orv delany To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:24 PM Subject: CSusing silverpuppy question I recieved the silverpuppy today and put in distilled water thats been prepared with activated charcoal, reverse osmosis, de-ionzation, steam distilled plus micro filtration sodium free, mineral content less than 1 ppm ozone protected , cleaned mason jar 32 oz with distilled water and turned on to auto mode and DC . green light came on and its been on almost 12 hr. and hasen't gone off yet. anyone know what is happening ? even a guess. Help thank you orv delany in portland or.
Re: CSear infection
poast, This sounds like a more dilute form of MMS. What would you think of making a mixture of say 2 drops activated 28% sodium chlorite (activated with 10% citric acid, 10 drops total) and 4 oz water? This should be dilute enough to put in the ear as well. Bob - Original Message - From: poast To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 8:47 AM Subject: Re: CSear infection Hello Gina, If you have access to sodium chlorite (NaClO2) and citric acid you can effectively and safely kill the infection in a few hours. The ear needs to first be cleaned out, as best as possible. With a young child and an infection, cleaning may be more of a problem than treating, but the treatment is more effective if an attempt is made to clean first. In a small glass mix 2.5 ml of 5% sodium chlorite solution with 2.5 ml of 10% citric acid solution wait 10 minutes, then add this to 250 ml of water. Using a small syringe, dribble this mixture into the ear and try to hold everything still for 30 seconds. Then the head can be returned to normal position and the mixture can be shaken out. The infection should be killed off in two treatments, but it depends on how deep the biofilm layer is in the ear. You could try twice a day for three days and go from there. Adding the citric acid to sodium chlorite forms a chlorous acid solution containing chlorine dioxide. You want to avoid prolonged breathing of the chlorine dioxide fumes when mixing because it can irritate your airway. The solution you mix up has 300 PPM available chlorine dioxide with 30 PPM of that as free chlorine dioxide. The free chlorine dioxide kills the infection upon contact (well it actually takes 30 seconds...) and the residual left in the ear after shaking the head continues to release trace amounts of chlorine dioxide as new infection surfaces. The minute amount of chlorine dioxide remains as a protective gas layer against re-infection. It is also capable of penetrating biofilm and killing any infection hiding there. This is not only effective for human ear infections, but has also proved itself when dealing with antibiotic resistant ear infections in dogs and other animals. I have caught the attention of veterinary doctors who after giving up on ear infections after trying all the antibiotics they have available to them, have been astounded by seeing the infection eliminated in a few days. This mixture is only good for a month or so. In the event of another infection, you should mix up a new mixture. The sodium chlorite and citric acid chemicals are good for years as long as they are kept out of UV light and high temperatures. Store out of the reach of children, of course. Tom - Original Message - From: Gina Moore To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 4:29 PM Subject: CSear infection So, it seems my daughter has an ear infection. I don't do doctors, but I am a nurse and have an otoscope and can clearly see that her ears are infected. Anyway, I give her CS everyday (about ¼ to ½ a cup), plus Vit D, cod liver oil, etc. I try to do natural remedies as much as possible! What can I do for her poor ears? I have heard of putting Hydrogen Peroxide in the ears and letting it sit for a bit, but she's only 3 and may not do that well! I have DMSO and could do a CS/DMSO mixture - any particular ratio that seems to work best? Or is there some other remedy that would work well? I'm up for anything at this point! Thanks so much! Gina
Re: CSDr. Oz, on bioterror attack.
CS should be effective against these so long as they are single celled organisms. In addition, I would add MMS to the list of antedotes. MMS (dilute chlorine dioxide) is very effective against any and all bacteria and virus. Google MMS for more info. - Original Message - From: Day Sutton To: Silver Post Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: CSDr. Oz, on bioterror attack. I have read reports recently that not only Al Quaida, but also possible China, would use bioterror on us. The three that would be most likely used are: Anthrax, Bubonic Plague, and Botulism. Is CS/EIS effective treatment for these?? Now is the time to find out..If you don't know how to make your own, ask on the Silver-List.. http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/are-you-prepared-next-bioterror-attack?page=2#copy -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSHair Growth?. . . .and Bone Growth
Lisa, Foundational essence probably refers to kidney essence or jing. This is primordial chi... energy retained through succeeding generations. It also sometimes refers to sexual energy... very closely related to primordial essence as this chi is the driving force behind life, our sexual drive, and our genetic heritage. Bob - Original Message - From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:56 AM Subject: RE: CSHair Growth?. . . .and Bone Growth I know a *little* about TCM...but have never heard of the term: foundational essence. Can someone explain? Lisa -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHair Growth?. . . .and Bone Growth Well, I can be irritable (LOL) but my face is not red... unless I am being irritated... ;-)) However, I know exactly what you mean about liver fire rising to the head, but that doesn't happen very often anymore. But, testosterone being changed to dihydrotestosterone (the western medicine explanation for baldness) sounds very much like depletion of foundational essence. Dan On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefuln...@comcast.net wrote: It results from the depletion of blood and foundational essence, due to age. Treatment can be difficult, but I know of TCM doctors (one in particular) who has great success with about 50% of cases, the other cases being not impossible but more difficult to treat. One of my buddies also said his hair was thinning due to liver fire rising to his head. This is due to stress, or anger/frustration. Liver fire would be more of an excess condition. If your face is red and you're irritable, that sounds like liver fire. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:26 AM Subject: Re: CSHair Growth?. . . .and Bone Growth What does TCM theory say about male pattern baldness? Is it considered to be a deficiency or excess condition, or just something that you live with - like 2 arms, 2 legs, one head, etc? Dan On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefuln...@comcast.net wrote: bones and teeth are supported by foundational essence, according to traditional chinese medicine theory. hair is supported by foundational essence and blood. - Original Message - From: sms s...@emotap.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 7:37 AM Subject: Re: CSHair Growth?. . . .and Bone Growth Right! According to the article below they prevent and reverse bone loss. Did you know? http://www.osteopenia3.com/Osteopenia-dried-plums.html While the article is long it is well worth the read. Here is an excerpt that may peak your interest: SNIP . . . . .Aside from existing drug therapies, certain lifestyle and nutritional factors are known to reduce the risk of osteoporosis. Among nutritional factors, recent observations suggest that dried plum, or prunes (Prunus domestica L.) is the most effective fruit in both preventing and reversing bone loss. Sasha --- From: Del Subject: Re: CSHair Growth? That's not the only thing they increase! Del -- From: Norton, Steve Subject: Re: CSHair Growth? Prunes have been found to ingrease HGH. Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHair Growth?. . . .and Bone Growth
TCM stands for Traditional Chinese Medicine. - Original Message - From: Evans, Antonio F. antonio.ev...@va.gov To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: thehatefuln...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:34 PM Subject: RE: CSHair Growth?. . . .and Bone Growth what does TCM stand for? Are there TCM Doctors in the Washington, DC Area? Kahlito Antonio Evans, Paralegal Specialist Video Hearing Section, Room #113 (MPA) Desk: 202.461.8863 Fax: 202.565.4679 -Original Message- From: Vigilius Haufniensis [mailto:thehatefuln...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 6:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHair Growth?. . . .and Bone Growth It results from the depletion of blood and foundational essence, due to age. Treatment can be difficult, but I know of TCM doctors (one in particular) who has great success with about 50% of cases, the other cases being not impossible but more difficult to treat. One of my buddies also said his hair was thinning due to liver fire rising to his head. This is due to stress, or anger/frustration. Liver fire would be more of an excess condition. If your face is red and you're irritable, that sounds like liver fire. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:26 AM Subject: Re: CSHair Growth?. . . .and Bone Growth What does TCM theory say about male pattern baldness? Is it considered to be a deficiency or excess condition, or just something that you live with - like 2 arms, 2 legs, one head, etc? Dan On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefuln...@comcast.net wrote: bones and teeth are supported by foundational essence, according to traditional chinese medicine theory. hair is supported by foundational essence and blood. - Original Message - From: sms s...@emotap.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 7:37 AM Subject: Re: CSHair Growth?. . . .and Bone Growth Right! According to the article below they prevent and reverse bone loss. Did you know? http://www.osteopenia3.com/Osteopenia-dried-plums.html While the article is long it is well worth the read. Here is an excerpt that may peak your interest: SNIP . . . . .Aside from existing drug therapies, certain lifestyle and nutritional factors are known to reduce the risk of osteoporosis. Among nutritional factors, recent observations suggest that dried plum, or prunes (Prunus domestica L.) is the most effective fruit in both preventing and reversing bone loss. Sasha --- From: Del Subject: Re: CSHair Growth? That's not the only thing they increase! Del -- From: Norton, Steve Subject: Re: CSHair Growth? Prunes have been found to ingrease HGH. Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHair Growth?
I've had some success growing new hair by taking an ionic silica supplement. It works quickly... new hair growth was seen within a couple of weeks in my case. It hasn't grown a full head of hair but enough to be detectable. I have white hair and the new hair is black. I've only been taking it for a few months so I plan on continuing. Bob - Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:26 AM Subject: Re: CSHair Growth? Funny you should mention that -- I was going to bring it up. I have managed to grow back quite a bit of hair by daily spraying with CS for 3 years now. And I know another guy who has done the same thing with even more success than I have. Dick - Original Message From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 4:45:15 PM Subject: CSHair Growth? Speaking of hairis there one single person on this list who has grown hair in by using CS on the scalp? I know Robert Becker was said to have done so, but I don't understand why more guys don't try it. It would be a fantastic experiment. Pat __ just joined the civil hair patrol!! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHair Growth?
Jess, Eidon Ionic Minerals silica. It is a liquid. I take 3 dropperfulls daily. Bob - Original Message - From: jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 12:45 PM Subject: RE: CSHair Growth? Bob what brand? Jess -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:38 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHair Growth? Isn't hair growth somehow related to H202 production - or non-production, in the follicle? dee On 1 Feb 2010, at 15:06, Bob Banever wrote: I've had some success growing new hair by taking an ionic silica supplement. It works quickly... new hair growth was seen within a couple of weeks in my case. It hasn't grown a full head of hair but enough to be detectable. I have white hair and the new hair is black. I've only been taking it for a few months so I plan on continuing. Bob - Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:26 AM Subject: Re: CSHair Growth? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators
John, Although ozone does indeed kill virus, bacteria, and mold, it can also oxidize sensitive tissues such as the lining of your lungs, your eyes, and other mucous membranes, especially those that have alot of bacteria in them. Be very careful... most recommend that you not run ozone generators while you are home, but turn them on when you are away. Dogs and cats are even more sensitive to the oxidative qualities, so be careful. Bob - Original Message - From: John E. Stevens To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 1:16 PM Subject: Re: CS Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators Rusty: Ozone creates more oxygen in your drinking water and many diseases cannot take hold in the face of a highly oxygenated body. Especially cancer. And some use it in the treatment of cancer. I use a portable ozonator for this purpose. Ozone is also used in air cleaners for homes and automobiles. I have one in my car and several at home. A large air cleaner for the larger living areas that runs day and night all winter because I can't open the windows for fresh air. i keep a small air cleaner in each smaller room - my office, my music studio, my wet darkroom and in my bedroom. Again, it kills bacteria that may be in the air of your home. It always smells like a fresh rain storm just cleared the air whenever I walk in the door of my home - or drive anywhere. John On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Rusty Moncrief sinso...@hotmail.com wrote: How is one of these devices beneficial? Thanks in advance, Rusty Subject: Re: CS Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators From: d...@deetroy.org Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:53:38 + To: silver-list@eskimo.com Typical big brother! dee On 30 Jan 2010, at 04:56, Bob Banever wrote: http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm199322.htm - Original Message - From: martsmai...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:22 PM Subject: CS Off Topic Eating Fruit Author unknown? author Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.
Re: CSHair Growth?
Yes. The smaller bottle is a concentrate... the larger bottle is a dilute version of the same ionic mineral. - Original Message - From: Nancy Venzon To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:42 PM Subject: Re: CSHair Growth? Bob, I went to the web site for these minerals, I was wondering if you know why the 2 oz bottle is the same as the 19 oz. bottle, is the formulation diffrent, It does'nt say on the site. On Mon, 2/1/10, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: CSHair Growth? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 6:03 PM Jess, Eidon Ionic Minerals silica. It is a liquid. I take 3 dropperfulls daily. Bob - Original Message - From: jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 12:45 PM Subject: RE: CSHair Growth? Bob what brand? Jess -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:38 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHair Growth? Isn't hair growth somehow related to H202 production - or non-production, in the follicle? dee On 1 Feb 2010, at 15:06, Bob Banever wrote: I've had some success growing new hair by taking an ionic silica supplement. It works quickly... new hair growth was seen within a couple of weeks in my case. It hasn't grown a full head of hair but enough to be detectable. I have white hair and the new hair is black. I've only been taking it for a few months so I plan on continuing. Bob - Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:26 AM Subject: Re: CSHair Growth? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators
http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm199322.htm - Original Message - From: martsmai...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:22 PM Subject: CS Off Topic Eating Fruit Author unknown? author EATING FRUIT... It's long but very informative We all think eating fruits means just buying fruits, cutting it and just popping it into our mouths. It's not as easy as you think. It's important to know how and when to eat. What is the correct way of eating fruits? IT MEANS NOT EATING FRUITS AFTER YOUR MEALS! * FRUITS SHOULD BE EATEN ON AN-EMPTY STOMACH. If you eat fruit like that, it will play a major role to detoxify your system, supplying you with a great deal of energy for weight loss and other life activities. FRUIT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FOOD. Let's say you eat two slices of bread and then a slice of fruit. The slice of fruit is ready to go straight through the stomach into the intestines, but it is prevented from doing so. In the meantime the whole meal rots and ferments and turns to acid. The minute the fruit comes into contact with the food in the stomach and digestive juices, the entire mass of food begins to spoil. So please eat your fruits on an empty stomach or before your meals! You have heard people complaining - every time I eat watermelon I burp, when I eat durian my stomach bloats up, when I eat a banana I feel like running to the toilet etc - actually all this will not arise if you eat the fruit on an empty stomach. The fruit mixes with the putrefying other food and produces gas and hence you will bloat! Graying hair, balding, nervous outburst, and dark circles under the eyes all these will NOT happen if you take fruits on an empty stomach. There is no such thing as some fruits, like orange and lemon are acidic, because all fruits become alkaline in our body, according to Dr.. Herbert Shelton who did research on this matter. If you have mastered the correct way of eating fruits, you have the Secret of beauty, longevity, health, energy, happiness and normal weight. When you need to drink fruit juice - drink only fresh fruit juice, NOT from the cans. Don't even drink juice that has been heated up. Don't eat cooked fruits because you don't get the nutrients at all. You only get to taste. Cooking destroys all the vitamins. But eating a whole fruit is better than drinking the juice.. If you should drink the juice, drink it mouthful by mouthful slowly, because you must let it mix with your saliva before swallowing it. You can go on a 3-day fruit fast to cleanse your body. Just eat fruits and drink fruit juice throughout the 3 days and you will be surprised when your friends tell you how radiant you look! KIWI: Tiny but mighty. This is a good source of potassium, magnesium, vitamin E fiber. Its vitamin C content is twice that of an orange. APPLE: An apple a day keeps the doctor away? Although an apple has a low vitamin C content, it has antioxidants flavonoids which enhances the activity of vitamin C thereby helping to lower the risks of colon cancer, heart attack stroke. STRAWBERRY: Protective Fruit. Strawberries have the highest total antioxidant power among major fruits protect the body from cancer-causing, blood vessel-clogging free radicals. ORANGE : Sweetest medicine. Taking 2-4 oranges a day may help keep colds away, lower cholesterol, prevent dissolve kidney stones as well as lessens the risk of colon cancer... WATERMELON: Coolest thirst quencher.. Composed of 92% water, it is also packed with a giant dose of glutathione, which helps boost our immune system. They are also a key source of lycopene - the cancer fighting oxidant. Other nutrients found in watermelon are vitamin C Potassium.. GUAVA PAPAYA: Top awards for vitamin C. They are the clear winners for their high vitamin C content. Guava is also rich in fiber, which helps prevent constipation. Papaya is rich in carotene; this is good f or your eyes.
Re: CSNew Generator from Russia
Mark, What could be harmful is due to the use of regular tap water instead of distilled water. Because of the impurities silver chloride or some other silver compound might be produced which can cause argyria in large amounts. If distilled water is used then it looks like a good unit on the order of a Silvergen or Silverpuppy without the automatic stirrer. Don't know about the constant current in this device either. Better to buy American in this instance IMO. Bob - Original Message - From: Mark Modica To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:13 PM Subject: Re: CSNew Generator from Russia Oh that silver chloride. Maybe in about 3 o 4 years James Cameron could cast Avatar II in Moscow. On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Mark Modica markmod...@gmail.com wrote: Marshall Not to get too deep into what they do in Russia -but is their any harmful effects from this method that could backfire on my theory that this is a good movement? On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: It is obvious from their picture of it in use that it is NOT producing colloidal silver, but silver chloride instead. Marshall Mark Modica wrote: I have been reading and archiving for months. I am buying EIS as needed but haven't made my own yet. Probably will go with Silvergen. Because two of my children I and were assaulted by a vicious (viral I think) infection this week- I was prompted to do a search on Ebay were I found another generator available from Russia. Cost is about $150.00 including worldwide shipping From some links to studies I have found on this list I know Russia uses CS to treat water on their space station and I find it encouraging to see they claim 5 million units sold. I suspect there is more of an issue with even safe drinking water in parts Ukraine and this machine has low concentration fast production for treating drinking water as well as 10 PPM (uses automatic timer) Has anyone seen this this unit? Any positive or negatives ( other than buy a machine from another hemisphere) would be appreciated. http://cgi.ebay.com/Ag-SILVER-WATER-GENERATOR-IONIZER-ONLY-Available-Here_W0QQitemZ260519020418QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_HealthBeauty_Other_RL?hash=item3ca824c782 AND... http://cgi.ebay.com/NEVOTON-IS-112-SILVER-Ag-WATER-GENERATOR-IONIZER-NIB_W0QQitemZ300389261911QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Medical_Specialisations_ET?hash=item45f0986257 Sorry to use Ebay links -- but manufacturer site is in Russian. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Thanks, Mark Modica First Class Fiberglass 636-970-3366 -- Thanks, Mark Modica First Class Fiberglass 636-970-3366
Re: CSBurning Feet: Extended Commentary.
Brooks, Have you done or do you know of any studies done on lingual nerve damage with resultant paresthesia/dysesthesia? I have burning pain on the right side of my tongue from an injection of articaine 30 months ago. I'm wondering if B1, B12, and ALA might give me some relief or if you've heard of any other protocol that might help. Looking forward to your response. Bob - Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley To: Silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 2:47 PM Subject: CSBurning Feet: Extended Commentary. Now that my, original, comment has come through...I will conclude my comments on this topic. First, however, I wish to rectify a misstatement made in my earlier post (caused by hasteI trust). In the concluding paragraphs I commented on two improved types of B-12as being presently available. This was in error. Actually, what I meant to say that there were two improved members of the vitamin B family presently available. They are Benfotiamin (a B-1 form), which greatly improves cell penetration...and is a pronounced improvement over most of the earlier representatives of the B-1 family. This B-1 form has demonstrated to be a noticeable improvement over earlier types offered by the commercial market. The beneficial effects...especially for challenges presented by diabetes complications--- are quite striking. Benfotiamin and Methyl B-12 demonstrate to act in synergistic manner when used simultaneouslyas a peripheral neuropathic protocol. The other vitamin is Methyl B-12 (methylcobalamine). This form is MUCH more soluble to tissue...than is the standard cobalamine form. Methyl-cobalamine is, also, quite effective as an ancillary protocol for autism in children (most especially below the age of 10 years). This substance is well-tolerated by a majority of the general population, and oral ingestion is quite effective and adequate for maintaining satisfactory blood titers. Although IV was, is, more immediately effectiveand more completely utilizedthan is sublingually ingested forms of Methyl B-12..the sublingual administration shows to be about 50% as active (by volume), as are IV administrations. (At least that has been our experience). We were privy to studies conducted by other research organizations, which revealed some very powerful effects of B-12 upon diabetic related peripheral neuropathy insults. e.g. One study revealed that IV injections of 2500 mcg of B-12 provided very substantial control/improvement in neuropathy presentations. Presenting symptoms (burning, itching, coldness, etc.) were well-resolvedsometimes in hours, and did not require other injections for intervals of...sometimesas great at 3 months. In some cases the standard protocol of 2500 mcg IV once each month was many times, soon extended to once every 3 months.and in some cases to several years in time. As Alpha Lipoic Acid was unknown (to us) as an available address for diabetes-related peripheral neuralgiaat the time of our investigations.no data was available to us---at that time--- on ALA beneficial effects. However, since the 1998-99 time frame, we have accumulated a sizable data base on the positive influence of ALA on peripheral neuralgia. Our recent investigations have, sometimes, shown stunning and immediate (within hours on occasion) relief. The most profound effects related to burning/itching of the feet and toes. A majority of these experimental investigations required 800 to 1000 mcg (minimum) to effect such rapid responses. We did not observe a single case of negative side-effects from the higher volumes of ALA...used by the experimental volunteers. I hope these comments prove to be of some value to list members conducting their own experimental researaches. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSdental caries
Sunny, Here is a website where you can purchase the Baby Godzilla. http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/index.html This unit has never failed to destroy bacteria causing a tooth or tooth root infection. Works every time! Bob - Original Message - From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:38 PM Subject: Re: CSdental caries Thanks Mary-Ann... I googled 'godzilla unit' but came up with lots of 'monster' links.. can you kindly share who sells them.. please... If this works it will be a wonderful miracle as the tooth is attached to a 5-tooth bridge that cost me $6k [back when I could!!] and if that goes.. I'll be a toothless hag!!! thanks sunny x A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth -- From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 1:49:51 PM Subject: Re: CSdental caries Well -- I can tell you what I did. At the recommendation of another list member here, I bought a Godzilla unit and used it to treat the cavity (which is really an infection in the tooth). That killed the infection. Then I bought a toothpaste designed to remineralize teeth. I'll be darned if it didn't work! However -- mine was a reallly small cavity, and I don't know if that makes a difference. MA -- From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 12:22:14 PM Subject: CSdental caries Hey, all you magic helpers..here's another query from me... I have a cavity and can't go to the dentist. Is there anything I can do and might CS help? I thought I was helping by spraying store bought cs [which I mixed with oil of oregano in the bottle and probably destroyed the silver???] into my cavity... much appreciated and think that's all for now... smiles sunny x A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth
Re: CSarticle, Silver is a potent nerve cell toxicant
JoAnne, I've been using ionic/colloidal silver on horses and humans for over 10 years. It has no toxicity that I can detect in the levels usually recommended and assuming you are using silver made with distilled water and .999 fine silver water with nothing added. I give two cups a day to a sick horse, and 1/2 cup daily to a healthy one. Good luck. Bob - Original Message - From: oasisgr...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:31 PM Subject: Re: CSarticle, Silver is a potent nerve cell toxicant I understand, Now I am wondering if I should treat my mare with this or not ? I read an article referencing that Blue Man and his issues and experiences ... someone please speak up. JoAnne In a message dated 1/22/2010 3:23:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes: Can anyone discredit that study, how it was performed, and its conclusions? Here is the link again: http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/silver-is-potent-neurotoxicant/http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/silver-is-potent-neurotoxicant/ I mean aside from saying it ain't true can someone really deconstruct it scientifically? thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSarticle, Silver is a potent nerve cell toxicant
Richard, That's strange... according to research conducted by Dr. Robert Becker silver ions are neurogenic. They also help to repair DNA as cells revert back to normalcy from a state of disrepair, they dedifferentiate in the presence of silver ions. Bob - Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:53 AM Subject: Re: CSarticle, Silver is a potent nerve cell toxicant Heh... Right you are, unless you want to talk about electrons, protons, neutrons, quarks, ... :-) One silver ion = one silver atom minus one electron, yes? -- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 2:18:06 PM Subject: Re: CSarticle, Silver is a potent nerve cell toxicant I don't think there are any particles smaller than ionic silver. dee On 21 Jan 2010, at 16:52, Nenah Sylver wrote: There’s an article called “Silver is a potent nerve cell toxicant” http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/silver-is-potent-neurotoxicant/ Any thoughts about this? It sounds like a bunch of crap. Or are they talking about nanoparticles smaller than ionic silver? Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009), now available in HARDCOVER The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy www.nenahsylver.com
Re: CSone for brooks
sol, Thanks so much. I appreciate your response and sharing of your experience. I've used CS as a nasal wash for years but thought of adding a bit of DMSO to make it more effective. Bob - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:40 PM Subject: Re: CSone for brooks At 07:54 PM 1/19/2010, you wrote:  Brooks, When you get the chance I have one question for you regarding DMSO and CS. That is is it safe to mix 5 - 10% DMSO and CS to use as a nasal and sinus wash? Since DMSO is so effective at breaking the mucosal barrier it would seem to me an effective way of dealing with germs in the sinus cavity. Looking forward to your response. I'm not Brooks, and I don't know if my experience is of any interest to you, but I use CS/DMSO as nose drops when needed, and would not hesitate to use it in my neti pot if needed. I do keep the percentage of DMSO under 5% for this purpose though, about 1 to 2%. I have read that DMSO is an effective transporter at 2%, and from my experience using it with my pet rabbits (ear drops and nebulizing) I believe it to be effective at 1%. And 1% or 2% doesn't burn in the nose like higher percentages do. I also add MSM for nasal use as it reduces irritation and drying sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSone for brooks
Doug, Have you used CS as a treatment for bleeders? If so, how do you do this. Thanks. Bob - Original Message - From: polo To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:39 PM Subject: Re: CSone for brooks Brooks, Thanks for your time and insight. Yes, I have used DMSO/CS and find it very efficient in biofilm conditions. The only problem is that most USA horse racing jurisdiction have DMSO on a banned substance list. Not good for on going treatment, and it is one impetus for me to find new protocols. I am a bit taken aback by your warning of not fiddling/experimenting, even if I were a professional of which I do consider myself. I have been treating racehorses for over 30 years. I would suspect, if you see some of these animals come back to the saddling area gushing blood from their nostrils, you might change your mind. Particularly when our vets seem powerless to help. All they can offer is a few CCs of lasix as a preventive. I should think some fiddling and experimenting in a logical manner would be very much to the benefit of these animals. I have never caused harm yet. I think you misunderstood me. I was not trying to produce liposomal CS via the ultrasonic or compressor type nebulizers. I was using them as a delivery device only for a home-made liposomal CS product made under your recommendations (only using CS instead of Vit C) from the harbor fright ultrasound cleanerand only then placing the finished liposomal CS product in one or the other type of that nebulizer for delivery into the lungs. At any rate, thanks again. doug - Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:18 PM Subject: Re: CSone for brooks I have only a few moments of time, at present. However, I offer a couple of comments on your inquiry. First, there are a wide variety of enzymes which will act as solvents/penetrants of MANY membrane-type tissues/films. Bromelain is one (a very effective one) of many. Some enzymes are narrow spectrum in effect and some are wide spectrum. I have no knowledge of the effects of specific enzymes on the effectiveness/enhancement of antibiotics. Briefly, the most effective liposomal substances are...as a general rulethe smallest in particle size. Ultrasonic devices and HIGH PRESSURE DIFFRACTION DEVICES are, at present, the most effective for accomplishing this. Conventional air compressors could serve, quite adequately, in a large number of applications. The proviso being that one is aware that geometry of the discharge assembly is of great importance (small particles are vital to non-injurious success). We have utilized 90% colloidal silver X 10% DMSO SOLUTIONS to very powerful effect in addressing serious pulmonary insults in equines (all ages). We have not used enzymes in direct-address situations involving horses. Primarily, because nothing we have ever evaluated has approached the ability of DMSO as a mucous-barrier penetrating agent. Coarse-particled gases (liquid mixtures) pose a potential threat for enabling pneumonia-type insults. Liposomal encapsulation does, indeed, offer some profound advantages.especially when utilized through proper supporting equipment. However, I would counsel that fiddling/experimenting with pulmonary challenges among horses, by inexperienced persons (even professionals), is a very DANGEROUS endeavor. The least threatening/effective protocols we have ever utilized involved oxygen-driven fluids which were micro-sized and furnished via systems of the re-breather type. I must go now. I hope these comments are of value to you. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.
Re: CSone for brooks
Doug, The state I reside in (CA) allows DMSO as late as the day before a race if I'm not mistaken. I do believe alot of horses bleed due to fungal infections in the lung tissue... but that is only part of the problem. In Chinese medicine it is due to dry heat or heat in the lung and wind invading. Regardless, delivering CS with DMSO via a nebulizer might be a good idea but if you're going to try and clear up an infection you should do it between races, not right before or the day of. That way there is no problem with DMSO either. We use Yu Nan Bai Yao very successfully. This stops bleeding internally. Give 6 bottles the morning of the race. Works better than lasix without the side effects. Bob - Original Message - From: polo To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:46 AM Subject: Re: CSone for brooks Bob. It has been my experience that CS will not curb bleeding. In my specialty of pulmonary bleeding on the race track, horses tend to bleed and the traditional veterinary protocol is to inject them with lasix, a diuretic, which some times helps. Many times, it does not. Also, vets seem not to know why performance horses bleed from the lungs. It is my experience and theory that they bleed because they have a biofilm lung infection which is very hard to diagnose, culture and treat with conventional antibiotics. DMSO and CS seems some what effective as long as we can work around the state ban on DMSO given in the vicinity time frame of a race. I think liposomal CS may offer a much needed option to striking at the heart of this bleeding problem by aiming at the offending biofilm infection and not be curbing the bleeding directly per se. doug - Original Message - Doug, Have you used CS as a treatment for bleeders? If so, how do you do this. Thanks. Bob
Re: CSone for brooks
Doug, May I ask what state you reside in? Here in CA the vets give IV DMSO very frequently the day before a race with no legal issues that I am aware of. As far as Yu Nan Bai Yao is concerned I have found that it is necessary to use 5 or 6 bottles for bleeding (5 - 6 times human dose). This is normal for a horse and is not overdosing, nor does it test positive. Bob - Original Message - From: polo To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:34 PM Subject: Re: CSone for brooks Bob, It sounds all good in theory, just stop DMSO application a day before, but life never ends up being quite that simple on the track. Metabolism rates, dosages, skilled help, delivery method, etc, etc, all figure in to a very confusing picture when it comes to getting stuck with a possible drug positive. I have long found that banned drugs should be handled very carefully even beyond the proper withholding recommendations. Plus there are so many gray cases of guessing whether a horse is infected or not, that it is often a good idea to nebulize as close to the race as possible, even on race day. Maintenance therapy is good too, beyond what we may consider a cured individual. Biofilm infections of the lungs can easily be multi-specie colonies consisting of fungi and bacteria and probably other forms living synergistically. I have found native American herbs to be just as effective as Yu Nan Bai and I only give one 150ml bottle versus your 6. doug - Original Message - The state I reside in (CA) allows DMSO as late as the day before a race if I'm not mistaken. I do believe alot of horses bleed due to fungal infections in the lung tissue... but that is only part of the problem. In Chinese medicine it is due to dry heat or heat in the lung and wind invading. Regardless, delivering CS with DMSO via a nebulizer might be a good idea but if you're going to try and clear up an infection you should do it between races, not right before or the day of. That way there is no problem with DMSO either. We use Yu Nan Bai Yao very successfully. This stops bleeding internally. Give 6 bottles the morning of the race. Works better than lasix without the side effects. Bob
Re: CSone for brooks
Brooks, When you get the chance I have one question for you regarding DMSO and CS. That is is it safe to mix 5 - 10% DMSO and CS to use as a nasal and sinus wash? Since DMSO is so effective at breaking the mucosal barrier it would seem to me an effective way of dealing with germs in the sinus cavity. Looking forward to your response. Bob - Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:18 PM Subject: Re: CSone for brooks I have only a few moments of time, at present. However, I offer a couple of comments on your inquiry. First, there are a wide variety of enzymes which will act as solvents/penetrants of MANY membrane-type tissues/films. Bromelain is one (a very effective one) of many. Some enzymes are narrow spectrum in effect and some are wide spectrum. I have no knowledge of the effects of specific enzymes on the effectiveness/enhancement of antibiotics. Briefly, the most effective liposomal substances are...as a general rulethe smallest in particle size. Ultrasonic devices and HIGH PRESSURE DIFFRACTION DEVICES are, at present, the most effective for accomplishing this. Conventional air compressors could serve, quite adequately, in a large number of applications. The proviso being that one is aware that geometry of the discharge assembly is of great importance (small particles are vital to non-injurious success). We have utilized 90% colloidal silver X 10% DMSO SOLUTIONS to very powerful effect in addressing serious pulmonary insults in equines (all ages). We have not used enzymes in direct-address situations involving horses. Primarily, because nothing we have ever evaluated has approached the ability of DMSO as a mucous-barrier penetrating agent. Coarse-particled gases (liquid mixtures) pose a potential threat for enabling pneumonia-type insults. Liposomal encapsulation does, indeed, offer some profound advantages.especially when utilized through proper supporting equipment. However, I would counsel that fiddling/experimenting with pulmonary challenges among horses, by inexperienced persons (even professionals), is a very DANGEROUS endeavor. The least threatening/effective protocols we have ever utilized involved oxygen-driven fluids which were micro-sized and furnished via systems of the re-breather type. I must go now. I hope these comments are of value to you. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: CSone for brooks Date : Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:58:16 -0600 From : Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To : silver-list@eskimo.com Oral bromelain was reported to be very effective in potentiating antibiotics. I think this is due to it's action in penetrating/dissolving biofilms, or some similar action. Dan On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:47 AM, polo wrote: Hopefully Brooks will have time to consider and comment on this. I have long been interested in protocols that will efficiently attack biofilm infections. It seems that inhaled (nebulized) liposomal medications are very effective in penetrating very difficult to treat lung biofilms. Some recent studies have suggested that liposomal antibiotics are superb treatments. Here is one: http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/61/4/859 The above study used a compressor type of nebulizer (nebulizer PARI LC Star). Anyway, I would like to try liposomal colloidal silver in a nebulizer for biofilm lung infections, particularly in racehorses. Normally we use ultrasonic nebulizers as opposed to the older compressor type nebulizers as was used in the above study. Ultrasound nebulizers vaporize the medication into super small droplets that can be pushed into the lung via an air jet. The older compressor type uses a small air compressor to vaporize the inhaled medication producing larger medication particles to be breathed in. Naturally, the ultrasound nebulizer technology produces small droplet size which is more conducive to lung inhalation efficacy. What I would like to know, do you see any problems with producing colloidal silver liposomes using your home made protocol and (2) would an ultrasonic nebulizer be detrimental to the liposomal structure? Would an older compressor type nebulizer as used in the study be better in putting liposomes into solution for inhalation purposes or would the newer utrasonic nebulizers not over-whelming affect liposomal structure upon vaporzation or might it even be beneficial? As a side note, I want to add that heavy metals seem particularly effective against biofilms of which I would venture a guess that colloidal
Re: CSCS and sense of smell- losing it
I've put CS up my nose dozens of times without any side effects whatsoever. Stings for a few minutes, but that's all. Bob - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:05 AM Subject: Re: CSCS and sense of smell- losing it Never has for menor have I heard of it before. Ode At 09:45 AM 1/13/2010 -0600, you wrote: Several of my family have been battling bronchitis for the last week or so. My husband put some CS in a teaspoon, and inhaled it. He did this maybe 4 times over the last few days, and now says he cannot smell anything-- even the chlorine type smell of MMS, or fragrance oils straight from the bottle. (I am a soapmaker, so have lots of that around.) He had recently read that the use of ZICAM, a zinc-based OTC product that you used by swabbing in the nasal passages, caused loss of sense of smell. Will sniffing CS into the nasal passages do the same thing? Beth H -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOT... but important!
Monsanto's GMO Corn Linked To Organ Failure, Study Reveals In a study released by the International Journal of Biological Sciences, analyzing the effects of genetically modified foods on mammalian health, researchers found that agricultural giant Monsanto's GM corn is linked to organ damage in rats. According to the study, which was summarized by Adam Shake at Twilight Earth, Three varieties of Monsanto's GM corn - Mon 863, insecticide-producing Mon 810, and Roundup® herbicide-absorbing NK 603 - were approved for consumption by US, European and several other national food safety authorities. Monsanto gathered its own crude statistical data after conducting a 90-day study, even though chronic problems can rarely be found after 90 days, and concluded that the corn was safe for consumption. The stamp of approval may have been premature, however. In the conclusion of the IJBS study, researchers wrote: Effects were mostly concentrated in kidney and liver function, the two major diet detoxification organs, but in detail differed with each GM type. In addition, some effects on heart, adrenal, spleen and blood cells were also frequently noted. As there normally exists sex differences in liver and kidney metabolism, the highly statistically significant disturbances in the function of these organs, seen between male and female rats, cannot be dismissed as biologically insignificant as has been proposed by others. We therefore conclude that our data strongly suggests that these GM maize varieties induce a state of hepatorenal toxicityThese substances have never before been an integral part of the human or animal diet and therefore their health consequences for those who consume them, especially over long time periods are currently unknown. Monsanto has immediately responded to the study, stating that the research is based on faulty analytical methods and reasoning and do not call into question the safety findings for these products. The IJBS study's author Gilles-Eric Séralini responded to the Monsanto statement on the blog, Food Freedom, Our study contradicts Monsanto conclusions because Monsanto systematically neglects significant health effects in mammals that are different in males and females eating GMOs, or not proportional to the dose. This is a very serious mistake, dramatic for public health. This is the major conclusion revealed by our work, the only careful reanalysis of Monsanto crude statistical data. - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 12:41 PM Subject: Re: CSChemistry question ? LMAO Steve, my head is spinning. Just something that is safe to consume without poisoning myself:) Annie Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) Norton, Steve wrote: Are you considering Magnesium Chloride that is specified as laboratory grade and not just technical grade? Here is a definition of grades from a chemical supplier that defines laboratory grade: DEFINITION OF GRADES Reagent ACS -- Meets or surpasses latest American Chemical Society standards for purity. Reagent -- Does not exceed maximum limits of significant impurities as stated. Does not have ultrastringent requirements of Reagent ACS. Laboratory Grade -- Equivalent in purity to United States Pharmacopeia (USP) and National Formulary (NF) listings. However, they are not offered for food, drug, or medicinal use of any kind. Practical Grade -- Sufficiently high quality for use in many syntheses and other applications. Technical Grade -- Selected commercial grades, scrupulously clean, and of reasonable chemical purity. Where usable, most economical grade and suitable for educational purposes. There is Magnesium Chloride used for de-icing roads and sidewalks that I would be hesitant to consider for use. I would definitely want to see an MSDS or assay for it. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSChemistry question ? Thank you Steve:) I've been looking for Magnesium Chloride so I can make it up by the half gallon or gallon, and all the 'grade' terminology is a little confusing. I know pharmaceutical grade and food grade are ok for consumption, and I figured lab grade would have to be mostly pure, but I wasn't sure that technical grade wasn't just another name for lab grade, and what do they use technical grade for anyway? I just don't want to use the wrong thing. :/ Annie Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) Norton, Steve wrote: Here is a good source of info: http://yarchive.net/chem/chemical_grades.html I frequently use reagent grade chemicals
Re: CSRe: Mercury, Vaccinations, Immune Detox Question...
Peter, I suffered from mercury poisoning a few years back. I successfully chelated the metal out by using liquid zeolite (10 drops 3x daily for a month) along with burbur (an herbal preparation) and chlorella. I felt better in one week although I did the protocol for one month. Bob - Original Message - From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca To: Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 6:36 AM Subject: CSRe: Mercury, Vaccinations, Immune Detox Question... Hi Hanneke, Thanks for sharing your history and your insights! My life has been dramatically altered due to severe mercury poisoning as well. In my case, I was told by a practicioner back in 93' that I was on my way to developing MS due to the high levels of heavy metals in my body, most importantly, mercury. I am very thankful that the direction of my life was altered from that course through the events and modalities which followed over the last seventeen years, including replacing amalgam tooth fillings with alternatives, orthomolecular therapy, herbal approaches, dietary changes, colonics, fasting, chelation - administered orally, by suppository, and by IV, and lots of FIR sauna usage. There were some other things which helped but these, as well as I remember, were responsible for most of my recovery over the years. I also received two miracles, which I would be happy to discuss one to one, if anyone is interested. During the nineties my immune system had become so ravaged by documented extraodinarily high amounts of mercury that I developed severe food sensitivites, Candidiasis, lost close to fifty pounds (which I needed) and suffered from seasonal affective disorder, body tremours, emotional instability, general anxiety disorder, IBS, CFS, memory problems, cognitive deficits, tinnitus, depression, continual opportunistic infections, endocrine and hormonal disruptions and a host of other complaints. To add insult to injury, Lyme disease was added to the diagnosis, confirmed through a reputable lab. As the years have progressed and the efforts to eliminate heavy metals and other toxins have continued along with continued efforts to mop up all the unpleasant ancillary effects and pathogens as well as measures to support areas of weakness, nearly all of the issues I suffered from have either completely resolved or come close to becoming completely resolved, with the exceptions of a weakened ability to detoxify and a weakened immune response, which both seem to persist and require continual (and expensive) support. I, as a younger and a less-informed man did not avoid vaccinations like the plague, as I now do, although I don't blame them or the amalgam fillings (as much as I hate mercury and vaccinations) as the sole sources of my past and present troubles. Ode has eloquently pointed out the folly of that kind of thinking and the reasons for it. (This is not meant as a criticism to you, Hanneke...please read on). I have also come to the conclusion, through looking at the lives of my predecessors and my extended family, although I have no conclusive proof, that my genetics include a predispostion toward an inability to effectively eliminate heavy metals and other toxins, possibly due to methylation problems and phase 2 detoxification insufficiencies. These inadaquacies and other similar ones related to my makeup may be actually more responsible for my challenges than the toxins themselves. They may also be responsible for my son's Asperger's Syndrome (high functioning form of autism). This is my background and present understanding...sorry for its length. Really, what I wanted to do was thank you for your great post, share a little myself, and seeing some similarities between your experiences and mine, ask you (and others) what measures you find to be most helpful in supporting your immune system(s) and detox abilities. Thanks in advance, Peter - Original Message - From: Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:11 PM Subject: Re: CS..How many watched the video and passed on..these videos are about Autism I can't seem to find my longer email from a few years ago in which I explained about my diagnosis of MS in 1978/1979, a diagnosis I refused to accept as being for real. In spite of all the tests done, and consultations with specialists/neurologists, I just could not for whatever reason accept that it was MS. I was told I was in denial. Possible, of course, but it did not stop me from starting my own research. I read and read, for close to 9 years. My health was deteriorating whilst continuing my search. In 1988, I somehow got stuck on notions of mercury poisoning, and possibly causing symptoms similar to MS. Without much, rather none, support from doctors, I went ahead and had all my mercury/amalgam fillings removed. A big exercise
Re: CS...these videos are about Autism,Robert F Kennedy Jr Shocking Vaccine
KMART, I'd look into taking liquid zeolite and chlorella for mercury detox and autism. I had mercury poisoning a couple of years ago. A Dr. prescribed the zeolite and I felt better in a month. I took (as an adult) 10 drops in water three times daily. Ate about a tablespoon of chlorella daily as well. Good luck. Bob - Original Message - From: kmartjo...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:20 PM Subject: Re: CS...these videos are about Autism,Robert F Kennedy Jr Shocking Vaccine You didn't watch both video's ...I think Kennedy comments were home school kids w/o vaccines had no autismAmish had 4 cases...3 of cases were adopted after vaccines shots were given...the 4th was down wind of mercury plant...or something Robert F Kennedy Jr Shocking Vaccine Cover Up Part2 www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjPox5xBOLINR=1 . my question remains can CS help autism kids, what can be done to help.. In a message dated 1/1/2010 7:06:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, bloss...@internode.on.net writes: At 11:23 PM 22/12/2009, you wrote: It was Sweden, I think, that eliminated Mercury in ALL vaccines 30 years ago, but Autism rates kept climbing there, just as fast as everywhere else that didn't. It thought that was interesting so I did some looking up. My findings are that they did not eliminate Mercury until 93/94, then starting to phase out the use of Thimerosal in the vaccines for children. On the rise of autism in Sweden, that too seems to be not quite accurate as you state. They have not been rising as fast as everywhere . If you have a source to back up your statements, I would be interested in reading that. Hanneke -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCure for Cancer and other illnesses
Dianne, As far as I know you have to make it yourself. You can buy small amounts at a medical marijuana collective, but you need to ingest 60 grams over 90 days to effect a cure. That requires abourt one pound of marijuana, so it can be expensive. It is easy to make. The instructions are found at Phoenixtears.ca. Bob - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: RE: CSCure for Cancer and other illnesses has anyone tried this product or tried to buy it? I looked on line and there are adds, just don't know about legalities. Dianne Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:45:16 -1000 Subject: Re: CSCure for Cancer and other illnesses From: papad...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com The film is from and about Rick Simpson. The movie is called Run From The Cure. It's on YouTube = http://tinyurl.com/yg6jspj Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now.
Re: CSConspiracies
Steve, Although this is off topic, I must state that 9/11 was indeed an inside job. There are reams of scientific evidence and proof that the governments story is a total fabrication. Scientists, architects, pilots, and engineers all dispute the government version of events and have the proof to back up their claims. Please peruse this site for the real facts. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=9707 America has been hijacked and it's high time the perps are brought to justice. - Original Message - From: Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 8:04 AM Subject: CSConspiracies The problem with conspiracy theories is that they are usually presented as facts and no effort is given to provide serious documentation or support. Usually the support behind the statements is in the theorist's rationalization which involves a series of suppositions, each one relying upon the accuracy of another, like individual dominoes stacked precariously one upon another. As long as every single supposition/domino is dead on accurate, the whole thing manages to stay together, but if one is wrong, the entire structure falls. Generally, theorists don't really have much in the way of facts, but they have a lot of opinions. On the other hand. there really are conspiracies. And the nature of conspiracies is that the perpetrators do not like them to be discovered. People attempted to reveal the conspiracy are targeted for discreditation, ridicule, or elimination. What do you do? You do your best to listen to what is claimed, attempt to determine if it has any realistic merit, and make your best conclusion. Popular conspiracy theories in my lifetime include: Man landing on Moon is a Hoax Roosevelt knew about the Pearl Harbor attack in advance Obama is not born in the US Katrina Hurricane relief efforts were bungled purposely because victims were African Americans Global Warming (now climate change since the earth has been cooling for about 8 years) is due to human activity And many others. People who promote these theories are mostly sincere. They are forceful. They are passionate. But being sincere, forceful, dramatic, or loud does NOT mean you are correct. Making claims without any proof by someone who is sincere or loud convinces many people. The Katrina victims theory is particularly weak because absolutely no documentation or support exists for the claim. Global warming theory is particularly suspect, especially now, because the scientists doing climate change research have been proven to have conspired to for years to toss data and studies that don't support the theory. Now, the claims that David Rockefeller owns 85% of the world's pharmacies could possibly be true I suppose. But, nobody seems to be able to come up with any documentation, so I ignore this. But let's say it's true. On top of this, for the conspiracy to be accurate, we need to believe that an incredibly rich man who will never be able to spend 10% of his wealth is so crazed by money and power that he will deliberately go out of his way to risk everything to cover-up or discredit alternative treatments and remedies that may have some real merit. This is a lot for someone to accept without some real documentation. As far as the claim that the WTC were not brought down by terrorists amazes me since I saw the buildings collapse on live tv. The buildings each took much longer than 10 seconds to collapse from the time they were struck by the airplanes. There are a number of well researched papers discussing the mechanics of how that happened. Imploding experts use dynamite to implode buildings. This was entirely different and the imploders' expertise is pretty much irrelevant here. There are tons of evidence that 911 was indeed orchestrated by Al Quaida terrorists. Me? I'm just skeptical of exotic claims. I'm willing to listen to just about ANY theory as long as there is some real evidence to back it up. Evidence other than someone connecting a bunch of assumptions and opinions. I think we are currently living through one of the biggest conspiracies on record right now, namely the efforts to pass the so called 'Health Care Reform Bill.'I think there is a lot of evidence to suggest that various politicians are being blackmailed to support it or paid off in one way or another. I have no proof of this, so I can't promulgate my theory as anything more than a suspicion. If successful in their efforts, the government will have unprecedented power over our lives. Anything you might have to say about 911, Rockefeller's banks, the Fed, or the FDA pales in comparison with what this power grab is likely to do. That's my take. Steve G.
Re: CSCure for Cancer and other illnesses
Dianne, You would have to live in a state where medical marijuana was legal. In order to make it you need alot of bud. It's easy to make but very expensive to make enough for a possible cure. Rick Simpson recommends 60 grams over a 90 day period... that equals to about 1lb of marijuana. Bob - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: RE: CSCure for Cancer and other illnesses has anyone tried this product or tried to buy it? I looked on line and there are adds, just don't know about legalities. Dianne Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:45:16 -1000 Subject: Re: CSCure for Cancer and other illnesses From: papad...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com The film is from and about Rick Simpson. The movie is called Run From The Cure. It's on YouTube = http://tinyurl.com/yg6jspj Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now.
Re: CSBlood test shows CS continues to bring viral load down
Re: CSBlood test shows CS continues to bring viral load downThat is GREAT news. I think the key for EIS is the DMSO...I don'thave HIV but when I've used it for a cold or flu it hasn't done much. I added 2 or 3% DMSO the last time and my cold was gone in a day and a half. Bob - Original Message - From: Gwlynda Irek To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:56 PM Subject: Re: CSBlood test shows CS continues to bring viral load down Great results!! How much CS and EIS is he taking for a daily dose? Carlene Yasak On 12/18/09 8:40 PM, Carlene Yasak carlene.ya...@gmail.com wrote: Some of you may remember that in September I reported the results of two blood tests for someone who complained of lingering flu symptoms over a period of one month. This person had previously tested positive for HIV. A first blood test in August 2009 showed a viral load of 300,000 per million which was not encouraging. He therefore began taking CS with 5 percent DMSO several times a day. Six weeks later, a second blood test showed that the viral load was down to 90,000 per million. Based on this result, he required no medication and the number of doses of CS per day were reduced to three (the size of a shot glass) which he took only in the evening. Two months later (early in December), as a precautionary measure, a third blood test was done. It showed a viral count of 15,000 per million for this person. This corresponds to better than average immune response. He is no longer considered at risk for viral infection. He now takes one maintenance dose of CS/EIS daily and will continue to do so. He also drinks fruit kefir every day. BTW, he feels great. Carlene Gwlynda Irek Country Ridge Bulldogs www.crbulldog.com Bulldog Club of America - Preferred Breeder Lone Star Bulldog Club North Texas Non Sporting A little faith will bring your soul to heaven, but a lot of faith will bring heaven to your soul.
Re: CSDentists - Lingual Nerve
Steve, Well of course it's a conspiracy. Big pharma conspires with the FDA to keep natural medicines out of the hands of the populace, they conspire between themselves to fix prices, and they conspire with lawmakers to make sure that only their products are available for use and purchase. Right now their conspiring with the White House and congress to keep cheaper Canadian drugs off of the American market. Bob - Original Message - From: Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:32 AM Subject: Re: CSDentists - Lingual Nerve Well, I agree that we need to be in charge of our own health. I'm a big believer in being self reliant and not trusting others to take care of us. Of course, that is what's lead me to exploring colloidal silver, and other alternative therapies. We are constantly under assault in all walks of life by people and organizations who want to exploit us. I don't think we should trust anyone who hasn't earned our trust. The biggest offender in this regard is our government. --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSDentists - Lingual Nerve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 7:37 AM I agree -- for sure there are some inept ignorant people who are doctors and dentists, just as there are in any profession. But doctors in particular largely have their hands tied, first by their education -- they didn't used to even recognize vitamins not too many years ago, and they almost universally don't recognize silver or any other alternative medicine today -- but mostly by the joint actions of big pharma, and their police force the FDA, and by the AMA. And of course the insurance companies. Medicine today is all about making the most profits for pharmas and insurance companies, and is not about what is best for patients. That's why we have to be in charge of our own health. And it's not a conspiracy theory, unless you consider that a big company, all of whose people collaborate to generate profits, is a conspiracy. Dick -- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 7:30:04 AM Subject: Re: CSDentists - Lingual Nerve But often the drugs given by doctors are what causes the body to stay sick, or become sicker. Take vaccines for instance, nearly every single person I meet who had the 'flu vaccine has become *really* ill. The doctors may not be aware of it, but they believe the drug companies who of course, have a vested interest. Some doctors too, like my friend's who has put her on statins and blood pressure meds when she had neither high blood pressure *or* high cholesterol. dee Almost all disease comes initially from incorrect nutrition and/or ignorance of what can make our bodies sick. Not all of course, but most. dee On 12 Dec 2009, at 04:23, Steve wrote: I'm not much into conspiracy theories. I refuse do believe that All Doctors work hard to keep their clients ill. From what I can tell, they are mostly overworked and would be happy to see less of their patients due to good health.I've had a lot of different doctors over the years. Absolutely no evidence that that any of them had anything in mind other than the best care they could give me. Of all of them, my present doctor is my favorite. He wants me well, and is obviously very concerned about what is in my best interest. My wife sees a lot of different doctors because she is very ill. Her doctors don't keep her sick, they don't need to. Her body does that on it's own. I'm sure that, just as in any profession, some doctors do not do a very good job. I believe that these persons are the exception and not the rule. ---
Re: CSDentists - Lingual Nerve
Steve, Be careful. All dentists play russian roulette with your lingual and IAN nerves... it's what they learn in dental school. It's best to not use any anesthetic for routine procedures... just grin and bear it, I do. You have the peace of mind knowing there won't be an permanent nerve damage and it really isn't that bad. Bob - Original Message - From: Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 7:30 AM Subject: Re: CSDentists - Lingual Nerve I went to a dentist a number of years ago that we unofficially renamed as 'Dr. Dollars' for obvious reasons. Seemed like whenever I went to him and took a shot, I would get this intense jolt that felt like electricity going through my tongue. He explained to me that he was aiming for the lingual nerve because the anesthetic then took effect much more quickly. How insane is that? He was taking a calculated risk with MY nerve health in order to pack in a bit more work and make a few bucks. We left for a different dentist shortly after that. Steve G. --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: CSsensitive teeth To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 6:06 PM Agreed! Dentists are THE most dangerous health care providers on the planet. Mine destroyed my lingual nerve with an injection of anesthetic (articaine) resulting in a permanent paresthesia/dysesthesia of my tongue. My life is now torture because of this. Bob - Original Message - From: James McCourt, Ph.D. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:41 AM Subject: Re: CSsensitive teeth File an assault and battery criminal complaint with local PD, state dental board, and consumer affairs department. - Original Message - From: jessie70 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:57 AM Subject: CSsensitive teeth Had my teeth cleaned yest. Dentist capped a tooth 5.5 mths ago. The space he made between it and another tooth is too large. Food gets stuck I have to clean after every meal. So hygienist said it needs to be redone. Later dentist is alone w/me says he can fix it. He turns on tool and is pressing against teeth on that side. I held up hand asked what he did. He had filed down other nearby teeth so my bite would change to fix problem of large space he said. I told him I didn't want to change other good teeth to accommodate crown he didn't like that. Teeth are sensitive today. Does anyone know what can help that? Jess
Re: CSsensitive teeth
Agreed! Dentists are THE most dangerous health care providers on the planet. Mine destroyed my lingual nerve with an injection of anesthetic (articaine) resulting in a permanent paresthesia/dysesthesia of my tongue. My life is now torture because of this. Bob - Original Message - From: James McCourt, Ph.D. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:41 AM Subject: Re: CSsensitive teeth File an assault and battery criminal complaint with local PD, state dental board, and consumer affairs department. - Original Message - From: jessie70 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:57 AM Subject: CSsensitive teeth Had my teeth cleaned yest. Dentist capped a tooth 5.5 mths ago. The space he made between it and another tooth is too large. Food gets stuck I have to clean after every meal. So hygienist said it needs to be redone. Later dentist is alone w/me says he can fix it. He turns on tool and is pressing against teeth on that side. I held up hand asked what he did. He had filed down other nearby teeth so my bite would change to fix problem of large space he said. I told him I didn't want to change other good teeth to accommodate crown he didn't like that. Teeth are sensitive today. Does anyone know what can help that? Jess
Re: CSsub-nanmeter
Re: CSsub-nanmeterTeresa, In what state do you reside? I may be able to help in if you live in CA. Bob - Original Message - From: Teresa Jessee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:20 PM Subject: Re: CSsub-nanmeter Steve, I read on barefoothorsecare yahoo group that the particle size has to be sub-nanometer in order to kill the fungus in a horse's foot. Someone there suggested this group as a place to learn about Cs. I will need about 2 cups to do all 4 feet. Does anyone here have some to sell? I know nothing about Cs. I don't know what it means to have mostly silver particles or to be particle based. I wouldn't mind making my own but as you see I have a lot to learn about Cs. I need to treat my horse before my hernia surgery in 2 weeks, when I won't be able to bend over and work on her feet for a few weeks. I have been using various remedies for 8 weeks now. It's much better but I don't want to loose ground while I recoup. SwedishHoofSchool.com says 1 treatment of Cs will kill 95% of hoof fungus cases. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Teresa - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:59 PM Subject: Re: CSsub-nanmeter Any form of homemade EIS is mostly sub-nanometer CS and is better when used topically than particle based CS. Some members do sell it if you don't want to make your own. If you want sub-nanometer CS containing mostly silver particles the suppliers that come closest are Utopia Silver and Mesosilver. I believe that their average particle size is just over a nanometer but some will be less than that. Just curious, why are you asking for sub-nanometer CS? Regards Steve N - Original Message - From: Teresa Jessee tjes...@dishmail.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed Dec 09 18:00:58 2009 Subject: CSsub-nanmeter I recently joined this list to learn about CS. I am looking for sub-nanometer Cs to treat hoof fungus in my horse. Where can I buy this? Teresa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThorvin Kelp - bulk
Dianne, Do you race thoroughbreds? If so, where may I ask? Bob - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:54 AM Subject: RE: CSThorvin Kelp - bulk Sandy Dan Thank you both for the links. We used to feed our horses a product called Source. It was a kelp base I think but not positive. We stopped when we read an article in a periodical saying it was problematic with absorption of some nutrients. It's been so long ago I've forgotten the details. I want to start feeding this kelp to help with immune systems. We were required by law to give certain vaccinations to be able to enter the track facilities to race and since we gave the required vacs almost every horse we have now have the snots. It is very frustrating. Dianne Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:32:31 -0600 From: anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThorvin Kelp - bulk Wow, Thank you for the link Dan! Merry Christmas to me, LOL. Annie Dan Nave wrote: Try this!... http://www.7springsfarm.com/catalog.html#Kelpforanimals 50# for $54. Or try this!... http://www.willyougreen.com/products/Thorvin-Kelp-%252d-50%23-Bag.html 55# for $54. Dan On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: Here is another supplier for Thorvin and they sell it in 50lb drums. http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/kelp.html Scroll all the way down to get the size and prices. Sandy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Chat with Messenger straight from your Hotmail inbox. Check it out
Re: CSBlue Moons (Help)
Steve, MMS stands for Miracle Mineral Supplement. It is ultimately chlorine dioxide made from 28% sodium chlorite diluted with food acid (vinegar, citric acid, lemon juice) and water. Bob - Original Message - From: Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:50 PM Subject: Re: CSBlue Moons (Help) Do we have a file on this group that explains all of the buzzwords and acronyms? I'm not sure what MMS is. Steve --- On Mon, 11/30/09, arthur rambo alqui...@yahoo.com wrote: From: arthur rambo alqui...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSBlue Moons (Help) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:32 PM I developed the blue moons after a few years of cs, as well. They faded in the fingers after beginning MMS. for a year. Now I only have slight on the thumbs. -- From: john freese jrf...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 9:14:33 PM Subject: CSBlue Moons (Help) Hello, I have been taking about 1to 1 1/2 ounces of crystal clear per day of 12 to 15 PPM CS for about 3 years with no problems. But about 3 weeks ago my wife (the non believer in CS) noticed the moons on my fingers were turning blue. I had not noticed this before she said something. I was under the impression ingesting this amount and strength would not turn your moons blue. Could the blue moons come from something other than CS? I stopped taking my CS that day and started taking selenium, and oral chelation. 3 weeks later the moons appear to be darker. I would appreciate any input. Thank you, John.
Re: CSMS cure - Nancy delise.
Re: CSMS cure - Nancy delise.Wow... that is truly tragic. I'm so sorry. - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:42 PM Subject: Re: CSMS cure - Nancy delise. How terribly sad and unfortunate. I take it that her MS was only in remission and had returned after her post in 2002? In her post she seemed intelligent, determined and capable. Very sad. - Steve - Original Message - From: Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Nov 27 18:12:07 2009 Subject: CSMS cure - Nancy delise. Nancy Delise and a female friend (also with MS) drowned in a motel hot tub (next to the swimming pool) while trying hot water therapy. The circumstances were so odd that the police assumed it was a bizarre suicide pact. The families stated that was ridiculous and insisted on a closer examination. Police later concluded it was just a tragic accident. Apparently heat can incapacitate MS sufferers. (MS sufferes have confirmed this to me). By the time the two ladies realised they could not move their muscles it was too late. So they simply slipped to the bottom of the tub and drowned. Very sad. Nancy was a contributor to this and other silver groups. David From: Del d...@altsystem.com Date: 28 November 2009 4:11:10 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMS cure Nancy Delise and her friend are dead now, you know. He death in a motel hot tub was labeled suicide, but I never believed that. Some very unfunny business here: http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Countryside.Holiday.Inn. 2.336750.html Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPrevention or treatment?
Ole, No, D3 is said to activate your immune system. - Original Message - From: Ole Alstrup To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:13 PM Subject: Re: CSPrevention or treatment? Will D3 kill the virus? -- From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, 23 November, 2009 19:39:53 Subject: Re: CSPrevention or treatment? Ole Alstrup wrote: To avoid the flu, what is most effective; using small amounts of CS daily as a prevention or large amounts when infected? Or both? Both. But I use D3, 5,000 units a day for the baseline protection, and up it 30,000 or so if exposed, or feeling a little funky. If I do get real symptoms of something coming on ( I have yet since starting the D3 ), I will take CS. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPrevention or treatment?
You can get D3 at any good health food store. Just google it to buy online. - Original Message - From: kmartjo...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:23 PM Subject: Re: CSPrevention or treatment? where do you get it -Original Message- From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Nov 23, 2009 6:21 pm Subject: Re: CSPrevention or treatment? Ole, No, D3 is said to activate your immune system. - Original Message - From: Ole Alstrup To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:13 PM Subject: Re: CSPrevention or treatment? Will D3 kill the virus? From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, 23 November, 2009 19:39:53 Subject: Re: CSPrevention or treatment? Ole Alstrup wrote: To avoid the flu, what is most effective; using small amounts of CS daily as a prevention or large amounts when infected? Or both? Both. But I use D3, 5,000 units a day for the baseline protection, and up it 30,000 or so if exposed, or feeling a little funky. If I do get real symptoms of something coming on ( I have yet since starting the D3 ), I will take CS. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCan someone comment on this plague?
If I were threatened with this illness I'd take MMS, MMS2, and colloidal silver. Added to that would be 50,000 mg of Vit.D3 daily and at least 20,000 mg of Vit.C. - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: cs Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: CSCan someone comment on this plague? Does anyone know someone in this area that can report on this by chance? Also is cs affective against a virus that mutates? thanks much folks, debbie :) http://ukraineplague.blogspot.com/2009/11/official-statement-now-saying-swine.html
Re: CSCan someone comment on this plague?
Here is a link for MMS and MMS2. http://jimhumble.biz/index.htm MMS is chlorine dioxide and MMS2 is calcium hypochlorite. They are taken in dilute forms safely. - Original Message - From: kmartjo...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: Re: CSCan someone comment on this plague? What is MMS and MMS2 -Original Message- From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 4:19 pm Subject: Re: CSCan someone comment on this plague? If I were threatened with this illness I'd take MMS, MMS2, and colloidal silver. Added to that would be 50,000 mg of Vit.D3 daily and at least 20,000 mg of Vit.C. - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: cs Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: CSCan someone comment on this plague? Does anyone know someone in this area that can report on this by chance? Also is cs affective against a virus that mutates? thanks much folks, debbie :) http://ukraineplague.blogspot.com/2009/11/official-statement-now-saying-swine.html
Re: CSSqualene in vaccine
Vinegar might be effective in emulsifying the oil. It does this outside the body very well. Bob - Original Message - From: jr orrilia To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: CSSqualene in vaccine I just wanted to know what some of you might think of this detoxification of squalene. As per Dr. Rebecca Carley, when the squalene is injected into the bloodstream, the immune system kicks in and tries to remove it, and when it does, not knowing what is foreign anymore, will remove squalene from the body in areas such as joints, brain, .which in turn turns into auto immune diseases. I guess this is why there were so many sick with the Gulf War Syndrome, what what they experienced was stiffness of the body. This man discusses that CS will take care of metals, but as for squalene, since squalene is an oil, you need a degreaser to remove it from the bloodstream. These are his words: I recommended only a few drops of liquid dish soap, 1 TIME, after the vax, to clear the squalene oil from your blood stream, so as to prevent your suffering rheumatoid arthritis when your body begins antibody production against this natural oil that's SUPPOSED to be in your brain and joints AND NOT in your blood stream.' This is the YOUTUBE video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp7Dh3vWmHk Any input is appreciated, since I have been looking for a way to detox in case of forced vaccination. I have heard that clay and MMS could be helpful. Here is the youtube video from that man. Orrilia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSToenail fungus
MaryAnn, Atomidine is available at some health food stores. It is made by Heritage Products (www.caycecures.com) It is a liquid. Bob - Original Message - From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:02 AM Subject: Re: CSToenail fungus Hi Arthur. So you're saying that this is personal experience, not a friend of a friend? And that it actually worked? Great!! How long did it take? Do you now have normal nails? Now -- is Atomidine liquid? And is it available at health food stores? Thanks. MA -- From: arthur rambo alqui...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 9:06:49 PM Subject: Re: CSToenail fungus I used Atomidine (iodine) with DMSO 50/50, on a bandaid each night. Worked beautifully. -- From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 8:50:15 PM Subject: Re: CSToenail fungus Didn't someone on the list cure toenail fungus with EIS and DMSO by soaking in a footbath? Did he lose his toenails too? - Steve N - Original Message - From: julie martin wolfp...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue Nov 03 18:44:33 2009 Subject: CSToenail fungus i have heard David Wolfe say that the fungus does not live only in the nail. he reports that it enters the second joint below the nail. he has suggested that one would need to paint the toe (or finger) from the tip of the nail all the way down, up to and including the second joint below the affected nail with #1. tincture of Pau d' Arco followed immediately by #2. DMSO. one would then wait until the area is completely dry before donning socks or shoes. this experiment should continue until the new nail has grown in as any remaining fungus can re- root and re- enter the nail. i have heard one person report that after trying many things for years this method did in fact work. i began the protocol, but did not complete it and noticed that the old nail does at least sometimes pull away from the toe. this was not painful and i found a small new nail growing in it's place. julie m -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWould ConcenTrace Minerals Be a Good Gatorade Substitute?
Ode, Let's not knock whole wheat bread. At least it contains fiber and the more nutritional wheat kernal. Bob - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:22 AM Subject: Re: CSWould ConcenTrace Minerals Be a Good Gatorade Substitute? At 07:07 AM 11/1/2009 -0500, you wrote: Hi Folks, Possibly, one or more of the well-seasoned members might be able to answer the following question for me. I have been reading http://silver-lightning.com/theory.htmlhttp://silver-lightning.com/theory.html and trying to get an understanding of what takes place when Gatorade is added to CS, for the purpose of improving its absorption into the blood by several times. My question is: If I wanted to accomplish the same goal, of improving absorption of CS into the blood, by substituting the Gatorade with ConcenTrace - Full Spectrum Body Balanced Ionic Minerals and Trace Elements, which has 185 mg. of chloride per 0.65 ml. do you think that the effect might be similar? ## Gatoraid is specifically engineered for fast absorption. [Ringers solution ? ] ConcenTrace also contains magnesium-65 mg., sulphate-14 mg., sodium-2.4 mg., potassium-1 mg. per 0.65 ml.(10 drop serving), in addition to trace amounts of other minerals which are found in sea water. They say that this stuff is concentrated and desalinated -(99% sodium removed through solar evaporation) and sourced from Utah's Great salt Lake and 100% pure. ## That sounds like 100% pure hooey. Evaporation removes water, not sodium..hence the WATER is desalinated [but that's not in the bottle] and the minerals concentrated into 100% all sorts of different mineral salts, nothing pure about it. Well, maybe pure Salt Lake...but pure Detroit sewage could be labeled that way too. [LikePure Male Bovine Fertilizer] ..could just drink sea water or use sea salt? And how is that any different from raw rock salt that's spread out on the road to melt ice, anyhow? What makes one ancient ocean turned salt mine any different from another ancient ocean? Salt lake not quite dry enough to be a salt mine yet? ..and not isolated from modern pollutants. How inconvenient. Like whole wheat bread..charging more because it HASN'T been worked over. Ode Can anyone comment on this? thanks in advance, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSToenail fungus
Del, Yes, you have to wait and see if a new nail grows in. Bob - Original Message - From: Vigilius Haufniensis To: Del Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:45 PM Subject: Re: CSToenail fungus Try tea tre oil, or clove oil. - Original Message - From: Del To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 3:08 PM Subject: CSToenail fungus Hi: I have had toenail fungus for most of my life on my left big toe. I have tried many things to get rid of it, but nothing worked. Recently, I realized that the fungus was spreading to my other left toes. I did more research and decided to try a combination of two parts DMSO with 8 parts SSKI. I have been saturating all my left toenails with this twice a day for a few weeks now (maybe 5 weeks). Suddenly, it looks like some of the smaller nails are getting ready to break off. Actually, I consider this a positive development, since I never got any reaction from anything I tried before. The literature that recommended this treatment said the you should cut back the nails as they died until nothing was left anyway. I am also taking olive leaf and oregano oil internally to attack from within in addition to the external treatment. Has anyone on the list beaten toenail fungus and, if so, what was the process like? How will I know if I have finally succeeded? When a new, healthy nail grows in, I suppose? Del
Re: CSSore throat...
LOL! - Original Message - From: Malcolm s...@asis.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:24 PM Subject: Re: CSSore throat... No, but H2O2 might be good as a booster like nitrous oxide - chemical supercharging. Many ford diesel rigs use propane injection; imagine that plus some ~50% H2O2; might could blow the heads off. OTOH there was a story on Darwin Awards; someone who removed himself from the gene pool, strapped two JATO bottles under his chevy (out in the SW desert somewhere). The chevy and he were later found about 50 feet up implanted in a cliff a mile or so away from the scorch marks. Hope this doesn't help. Malcolm On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 20:11 -0700, Bob Banever wrote: Ode, Very cool. Would this motor have any use in the automobile? Bob - Original Message - From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:13 PM Subject: RE: CSSore throat... I have always found it quite interesting and amazing that stuff like this can be so powerful and corrosive, yet it can be stored in a plastic bottle! Lisa -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net] Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSore throat... ## Meaning that. if you dipped a hand in 100% H2O2, you'd pull back a stump. It is, quite literally rocket fuel and is also a very powerful organic oxidizer. The Bell Rocket Pack uses 80100% H2O2 sprayed over a grid of silver wire [catalytic bed] to instantly produce high pressure steam as a propellent. http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~teney/h2o2propulsion.htm You'll find here some stuff related to rocket propulsion using hydrogen peroxide (H2O2). For the newcomers, hydrogen peroxide is a colourless, dense (1.36 at 85%), corrosive liquid, storable at ambient temperature/pressure, that can be used as oxidizer or monopropellant in rocket engines. It's only useful at high concentrations ( 80%), but unfortunately, such concentrated product isn't commercially avalaible, and has thus to be manufactured from lower concentration product. I personnally achieve this by selective evaporation, at moderate temperatures for safety. This is a potentially dangerous operation, since peroxide vapours can be explosive, and it should surely not be undertaken by anyone. I've started designing an hypergolic hybrid rocket motor, which burns polyethylene and uses 85% hydrogen peroxide as oxidizer. Hypergolic ignition is achieved using a consumable catalytic bed, mainly made of potassium permanganate. It decomposes the peroxide as soon as it is injected in the combustion chamber, creating a stream of superheated steam and oxygen, which then causes the polyethylene grain to auto-ignite. As far as I know, this motor is (one of ?) the first amateur hydrogen peroxide hybrid in the world. Ode At 08:13 PM 10/30/2009 -0500, you wrote: Any time someone is talking about H2O2 it is a good rule of thumb to remember that you don't want to be applying it externally or internally at any concentration greater than about 3%, which is the concentration of over-the-counter H2O2. Yes, food grade is better but, as it is usually a 35% concentration, you should know how to dilute it with distilled water or CS to the correct strength. Notice that food grade is often 10 times stronger than the safe-to-use over-the-counter H2O2. Dan On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Lisa mailto:blacksa...@comcast.netblacksa...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks for all the info (I KNEW I could count on you folks J) I don't have a nebulizer (it's on the list though) and with the h202 - is that food grade? And straight or should it be diluted? I gargled a couple times before going to bed last night.woke up this morning and it was still there and had a dose of MMS (after taking several days off) and it's better! I'll continue to gargle and clean the toothbrush and the h202 gargle. Thanks again.with 3 little ones and Daddy on business travel - I honestly can't get that sick without the entire house falling apart for its duration! L -- From: Scotty [mailto:scottie592...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:55 AM To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSore throat... CS:DMSO nebulized (9:1 ratio) for 5 to 10 minutes, at least 2x per day. Also, gargle with H202 followed immediately with gargling CS. Mine was gone in two days and kept the bug from entering my lungs! Awesome stuff! Scott With God, all things are possible. - Mark 10:27 --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Lisa mailto:blacksa...@comcast.netblacksa...@comcast.net wrote: From: Lisa mailto:blacksa...@comcast.netblacksa...@comcast.net Subject: CSSore throat... To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com, mailto:miracle_mineral_supplem
Re: CSI need to do chelation
Mr. Harvey, If you go to silvermedicine.org you will find the protocol for removing silver from the skin. Good luck. Bob - Original Message - From: A. Reid Harvey To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 6:16 AM Subject: CSI need to do chelation Hi Everybody, Some of you may remember that some months ago I had mentioned that my face has a peculiar coloration, some say purple and some say blue. As I had mentioned, for many years I've been showing potteries how to make silver nitrate, so as to seriously cut their costs. We use silver nitrate to treat pottery candle filters, then burn the nitrate off. I'm very much afraid that my peculiar coloration has been the result of contact with the salts of the silver nitrate, and I'm hopeful that someone will tell me about how to do chelation. When I do a search I come up with many, many products for chelation, and I'm sure that some of them are effective, and others are not. And many of these products are rather expensive. I seem to recall that sellenium is used, but cannot recall the others. I'd be grateful if somebody could steer me towards the more sensible products, that aren't going to cost me an arm and a leg. Many thanks. Reid Harvey -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.
Re: CSSore throat...
Ode, Very cool. Would this motor have any use in the automobile? Bob - Original Message - From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:13 PM Subject: RE: CSSore throat... I have always found it quite interesting and amazing that stuff like this can be so powerful and corrosive, yet it can be stored in a plastic bottle! Lisa -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net] Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSore throat... ## Meaning that. if you dipped a hand in 100% H2O2, you'd pull back a stump. It is, quite literally rocket fuel and is also a very powerful organic oxidizer. The Bell Rocket Pack uses 80100% H2O2 sprayed over a grid of silver wire [catalytic bed] to instantly produce high pressure steam as a propellent. http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~teney/h2o2propulsion.htm You'll find here some stuff related to rocket propulsion using hydrogen peroxide (H2O2). For the newcomers, hydrogen peroxide is a colourless, dense (1.36 at 85%), corrosive liquid, storable at ambient temperature/pressure, that can be used as oxidizer or monopropellant in rocket engines. It's only useful at high concentrations ( 80%), but unfortunately, such concentrated product isn't commercially avalaible, and has thus to be manufactured from lower concentration product. I personnally achieve this by selective evaporation, at moderate temperatures for safety. This is a potentially dangerous operation, since peroxide vapours can be explosive, and it should surely not be undertaken by anyone. I've started designing an hypergolic hybrid rocket motor, which burns polyethylene and uses 85% hydrogen peroxide as oxidizer. Hypergolic ignition is achieved using a consumable catalytic bed, mainly made of potassium permanganate. It decomposes the peroxide as soon as it is injected in the combustion chamber, creating a stream of superheated steam and oxygen, which then causes the polyethylene grain to auto-ignite. As far as I know, this motor is (one of ?) the first amateur hydrogen peroxide hybrid in the world. Ode At 08:13 PM 10/30/2009 -0500, you wrote: Any time someone is talking about H2O2 it is a good rule of thumb to remember that you don't want to be applying it externally or internally at any concentration greater than about 3%, which is the concentration of over-the-counter H2O2. Yes, food grade is better but, as it is usually a 35% concentration, you should know how to dilute it with distilled water or CS to the correct strength. Notice that food grade is often 10 times stronger than the safe-to-use over-the-counter H2O2. Dan On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Lisa mailto:blacksa...@comcast.netblacksa...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks for all the info (I KNEW I could count on you folks J) I don't have a nebulizer (it's on the list though) and with the h202 - is that food grade? And straight or should it be diluted? I gargled a couple times before going to bed last night.woke up this morning and it was still there and had a dose of MMS (after taking several days off) and it's better! I'll continue to gargle and clean the toothbrush and the h202 gargle. Thanks again.with 3 little ones and Daddy on business travel - I honestly can't get that sick without the entire house falling apart for its duration! L -- From: Scotty [mailto:scottie592...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:55 AM To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSore throat... CS:DMSO nebulized (9:1 ratio) for 5 to 10 minutes, at least 2x per day. Also, gargle with H202 followed immediately with gargling CS. Mine was gone in two days and kept the bug from entering my lungs! Awesome stuff! Scott With God, all things are possible. - Mark 10:27 --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Lisa mailto:blacksa...@comcast.netblacksa...@comcast.net wrote: From: Lisa mailto:blacksa...@comcast.netblacksa...@comcast.net Subject: CSSore throat... To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com, mailto:miracle_mineral_supplem...@yahoogroups.commiracle_mineral_supplem e...@yahoogroups.com, mailto:dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.comdimethylsulfoxide-d...@yaho ogroups.com, mailto:herbal_remed...@yahoogroups.comherbal_remed...@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 5:12 AM Hi All, This is the 3rd day of a sore throat (possibly the beginnings of strept). Can someone suggest something so I can rid myself of it and/or at the very least not have the soreness? I've done some gargling with CS (can't determine if that's helped or maybe prevented it from getting worse). Would love to hear from folks that have had something similar and nipped it in the bud! Thank you. Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at:
Re: CSSore throat...
Lisa, Try gargling with hydrogen peroxide. Gargle until you feel it burning. Do that once an hour or more. In between you can gargle with CS too. Bob - Original Message - From: Lisa To: silver-list@eskimo.com ; miracle_mineral_supplem...@yahoogroups.com ; dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com ; herbal_remed...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 5:12 AM Subject: CSSore throat... Hi All, This is the 3rd day of a sore throat (possibly the beginnings of strept). Can someone suggest something so I can rid myself of it and/or at the very least not have the soreness? I've done some gargling with CS (can't determine if that's helped or maybe prevented it from getting worse). Would love to hear from folks that have had something similar and nipped it in the bud! Thank you. Lisa
Re: CScan anyone make a suggestion about an open wound
Bernadette, CS might help to heal the wound. If I were her, I'd research other modalities for her condition. Cannabis oil, oleander extract, and IP6 are three worth pursueing Just google them. - Original Message - From: Bernadette bernade...@pa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:42 AM Subject: CScan anyone make a suggestion about an open wound My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer. They discovered it on a Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was operated on and everything female was taken out. They closed up her belly-button since a lymph node was pushing through (that is how they found out about the ovarian cancer). Now the incision will not heal properly.She is on chemo for 1 year - going once a week (three weeks on and one week off). Other than the cancer she is in excellent health. She is 66 years old. Would CS help heal this type of open wound? She wrote the following: As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can do. TO reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a real problem in the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will go with the cemo and hope that maybe this will close on its own. There is that chance. It is not in fected at this time and if I keep it clean it should be fine. She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give her some suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try them or not. Thank you for any help you could afford her. Bernadette -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines
Thanks Garnet. I've come to the realization that 50,000mg or more is ok for short periods. Bob - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:50 PM Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines I guess if you did this every day for a long period of time it could be a problem. But we are only talking about three days. I don't know the mechanism but obviously it is to kick the immune system into gear cause you are sick. I am just quoting Dr McCandless on the dosing. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Bob Banever wrote: Garnet, Thanks. That 50,000mg dose seems like alot. Any info on safety or side effects at that dosage? Bob - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines One recommendation is to start out with 10,000 iu D3 for 30 days, then 5,000 iu per day for maintenance. If you get the flu take 50,000 iu for three days. This is per the recommendation of Dr Jaquelyn McCandless who is working with Low Dose Naltrexone for HIV and Autism. Autistic kids have poor immune function according to her. She also recommends LDN for all her patients over 60 as a preventative and libido booster. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Bob Banever wrote: Marshall, How much D3 would you consume? I take 5000mg as a preventative every day. Bob - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines C is good, but D3 is much better, and don't forget the CS. Marshall arthur rambo wrote: For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is suspected, started feeling something come on very soon after getting home; have been taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since; the head feeling keeps recurring, but subsides minutes after each dose. I've done this in the past with success in modulating the flu so I was able to keep working with only mild symptoms. ( I was not in a place with people; I worked alone) I must have something, because I have not had so much as a rumble with all this c. *From:* Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tue, October 20, 2009 12:25:56 PM *Subject:* Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines Thanks, Dad! On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html Dad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines
Dan, Yes you are so correct. I apologize for my mistake. I must be getting old (I am...). Cheers. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines Bob, You, and others, should note that IU is not the same as mg... 1 mcg vitamin D (cholecalciferol) = 40 IU (note this is 1 micro-grams) 1000 IU equals 25 micrograms (note this is 25 micro-grams) therefore, 50,000 IU is about 1.25 mg (note this is 1.2 milli-grams) Now, 1 mg is equal to 40,000 IUs and 50,000 mg is equal to 2,000,000,000 IUs Dan On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: Thanks Garnet. I've come to the realization that 50,000mg or more is ok for short periods. Bob - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:50 PM Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines I guess if you did this every day for a long period of time it could be a problem. But we are only talking about three days. I don't know the mechanism but obviously it is to kick the immune system into gear cause you are sick. I am just quoting Dr McCandless on the dosing. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Bob Banever wrote: Garnet, Thanks. That 50,000mg dose seems like alot. Any info on safety or side effects at that dosage? Bob - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines One recommendation is to start out with 10,000 iu D3 for 30 days, then 5,000 iu per day for maintenance. If you get the flu take 50,000 iu for three days. This is per the recommendation of Dr Jaquelyn McCandless who is working with Low Dose Naltrexone for HIV and Autism. Autistic kids have poor immune function according to her. She also recommends LDN for all her patients over 60 as a preventative and libido booster. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Bob Banever wrote: Marshall, How much D3 would you consume? I take 5000mg as a preventative every day. Bob - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines C is good, but D3 is much better, and don't forget the CS. Marshall arthur rambo wrote: For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is suspected, started feeling something come on very soon after getting home; have been taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since; the head feeling keeps recurring, but subsides minutes after each dose. I've done this in the past with success in modulating the flu so I was able to keep working with only mild symptoms. ( I was not in a place with people; I worked alone) I must have something, because I have not had so much as a rumble with all this c. *From:* Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tue, October 20, 2009 12:25:56 PM *Subject:* Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines Thanks, Dad! On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html Dad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines
Marshall, How much D3 would you consume? I take 5000mg as a preventative every day. Bob - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines C is good, but D3 is much better, and don't forget the CS. Marshall arthur rambo wrote: For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is suspected, started feeling something come on very soon after getting home; have been taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since; the head feeling keeps recurring, but subsides minutes after each dose. I've done this in the past with success in modulating the flu so I was able to keep working with only mild symptoms. ( I was not in a place with people; I worked alone) I must have something, because I have not had so much as a rumble with all this c. *From:* Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tue, October 20, 2009 12:25:56 PM *Subject:* Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines Thanks, Dad! On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html Dad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines
That is GREAT news. We have to spread the word here in America now. Cheers. - Original Message - From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:25 AM Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines Thanks, Dad! On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html Dad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMMS and Colloidal silver together?? Anybody??
Thanks Ode. Bob - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:34 AM Subject: Re: CSMMS and Colloidal silver together?? Anybody?? At 05:09 PM 10/19/2009 -0700, you wrote: Ode, Would MMS oxidize the silver ions/particles in the blood, thus rendering it ineffective? ## There are those that say this happens anyway..and those that say trace Ammonia in the blood serves a function of converting ions into metallic particles with a Fulminating stage. Note that Chlorine Dioxide doesn't react with Ammonia. Note also that Silver Chloride will also kill germs..just not as effectively as the pure metal nano-particle or ion. Burned or starved... Dead is dead. Burned AND starved, still dead. Ode Although chlorine dioxide has chlorine in its name, its chemistry is radically different from that of chlorine. When reacting with other substances, it is weaker and more selective. For example, it does not react with ammonia or most organic compounds. Chlorine dioxide oxygenates products rather than chlorinating them -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines
Garnet, Thanks. That 50,000mg dose seems like alot. Any info on safety or side effects at that dosage? Bob - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines One recommendation is to start out with 10,000 iu D3 for 30 days, then 5,000 iu per day for maintenance. If you get the flu take 50,000 iu for three days. This is per the recommendation of Dr Jaquelyn McCandless who is working with Low Dose Naltrexone for HIV and Autism. Autistic kids have poor immune function according to her. She also recommends LDN for all her patients over 60 as a preventative and libido booster. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Bob Banever wrote: Marshall, How much D3 would you consume? I take 5000mg as a preventative every day. Bob - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines C is good, but D3 is much better, and don't forget the CS. Marshall arthur rambo wrote: For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is suspected, started feeling something come on very soon after getting home; have been taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since; the head feeling keeps recurring, but subsides minutes after each dose. I've done this in the past with success in modulating the flu so I was able to keep working with only mild symptoms. ( I was not in a place with people; I worked alone) I must have something, because I have not had so much as a rumble with all this c. *From:* Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tue, October 20, 2009 12:25:56 PM *Subject:* Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines Thanks, Dad! On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html Dad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines
Hi Gina, Yes upon further investigation I see that it is actually recommended to take 100 - 200,000 mg. a day for seven days depending on weight if you have the flu. Maintenance dose is much lower 5 - 10,000 mg a day. - Original Message - From: Gina Moore vegasmom...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:02 PM Subject: RE: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines I have taken that much for a few days at a time to get rid of colds/flu/fever blisters... no negative effects. They say there is really no toxicity at any level. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeg-5NDyJ84 Gina -Original Message- From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:40 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines Garnet, Thanks. That 50,000mg dose seems like alot. Any info on safety or side effects at that dosage? Bob - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines One recommendation is to start out with 10,000 iu D3 for 30 days, then 5,000 iu per day for maintenance. If you get the flu take 50,000 iu for three days. This is per the recommendation of Dr Jaquelyn McCandless who is working with Low Dose Naltrexone for HIV and Autism. Autistic kids have poor immune function according to her. She also recommends LDN for all her patients over 60 as a preventative and libido booster. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Bob Banever wrote: Marshall, How much D3 would you consume? I take 5000mg as a preventative every day. Bob - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines C is good, but D3 is much better, and don't forget the CS. Marshall arthur rambo wrote: For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is suspected, started feeling something come on very soon after getting home; have been taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since; the head feeling keeps recurring, but subsides minutes after each dose. I've done this in the past with success in modulating the flu so I was able to keep working with only mild symptoms. ( I was not in a place with people; I worked alone) I must have something, because I have not had so much as a rumble with all this c. *From:* Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tue, October 20, 2009 12:25:56 PM *Subject:* Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines Thanks, Dad! On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html Dad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMMS and Colloidal silver together?? Anybody??
Ode, Would MMS oxidize the silver ions/particles in the blood, thus rendering it ineffective? Bob - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:48 AM Subject: Re: CSMMS and Colloidal silver together?? Anybody?? MMS is Sodium Chlorite granules processed in a weak acid to produce Chlorine Dioxide gas dissolved in the blood stream. The Chlorine Dioxide People What is Chlorine Dioxide? Where is it used? How does it work? Chlorine Dioxide (CD) is a greenish-yellow gas and is a single-electron-transfer oxidizing agent with a chlorine-like odor. CD has been recognized since the beginning of the century for its disinfecting properties; and has been approved by the US EPA for many applications including the widespread use of CD in the treatment of drinking water. Beyond this and numerous other aqueous applications, the sporicidal properties of gaseous CD were demonstrated in 1986. Subsequent to these initial studies, it has been shown that gaseous CD is a rapid and effective sterilant active against bacteria, yeasts, molds, and viruses. The rapid sterilizing activity of CD is present at ambient temperature and at relatively low gas concentration, 1 to 30 mg/L. Chlorine dioxide is widely used as an antimicrobial and as an oxidizing agent in drinking water; poultry process water, swimming pools, and mouthwash preparations. It is used to sanitize fruit and vegetables as well as equipment for food and beverage processing. It is used to decontaminate animal facilities. It is also employed in the health care industries to decontaminate rooms, pass-throughs, isolators and also as a sterilant for product and component sterilization. What's more, as an oxidizing agent, it is extensively used to bleach, deodorize, and detoxify a wide variety of materials, including cellulose, paper-pulp, flour, leather, fats and oils, and textiles. Approximately 4 to 5 million pounds of chlorine dioxide are used daily. Chemical Properties Pure chlorine dioxide is an unstable gas and therefore is generated as needed. Although chlorine dioxide has chlorine in its name, its chemistry is radically different from that of chlorine. When reacting with other substances, it is weaker and more selective. For example, it does not react with ammonia or most organic compounds. Chlorine dioxide oxygenates products rather than chlorinating them. Therefore, unlike chlorine, chlorine dioxide does not produce environmentally undesirable organic compounds containing chlorine. Chemical Formula: ClO2 Molecular Weight: 67.45 g/mole Melting Point (°C): -59 Boiling Point (°C): +11 2.4 times that of air Density: Antimicrobial Properties / Mode of Action Chlorine dioxide (ClO2) acts as an oxidizing agent and reacts with several cellular constituents, including the cell membrane of microbes. By stealing electrons from them (oxidation), it breaks their molecular bonds, resulting in the death of the organism by the break up of the cell. Since chlorine dioxide alters the proteins involved in the structure of microorganisms, the enzymatic function is broken, causing very rapid bacterial kills. The potency of chlorine dioxide is attributable to the simultaneous, oxidative attack on many proteins thereby preventing the cells from mutating to a resistant form. Additionally, because of the lower reactivity of chlorine dioxide, its antimicrobial action is retained longer in the presence of organic matter. Sporal vs bacterial inactivation? The difference between sporal and bacterial inactivation can be likened to the difference between sterilization and disinfection. For example, for a chemical agent to be classified as a sterilant, it must be demonstrated to have sporicidal activity. For this reason, spores are commonly used as a challenge in sterilization process development. Disinfection, on the other hand, does not require the complete inactivation of microbial life and in some cases disinfectant claims may be substantiated by demonstrating bacterial inactivation capability. The following is a simplistic explanation of the differences between a spore and a bacterium. Bacterial endospores are one of the most persistent forms of microbial life and typically require aggressive inactivation procedures. Vegetative bacteria are generally much more easily inactivated than are bacterial endospores. This is primarily because the sensitive areas of bacteria are easily contacted by chemosterilizing agents. The spore, however, has a more complex structure than the vegetative bacterial cell. Its sensitive material is contained within a core and that core is surrounded by a cortex and spore coats. These coats tend to act as a permeability barrier to the entry of chlorine dioxide and other compounds (Knapp). Ode At 09:43 AM 10/17/2009 -0700, you wrote: Hi Erik! I would like to find out what MMS is. As well as the other
Re: CSCS as Water Disinfectant
Jim, CS will kill any single celled organism of which giardia is one. I don't know about parasite eggs... it will not kill many parasites because they are multi-cellular. - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes To: Silver-List Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:16 AM Subject: CSCS as Water Disinfectant Does anyone have any durrent information on using CS as a water disinfectant? Does it kill Giardia? What about parasite eggs?
Re: CSMMS and Colloidal silver together?? Anybody??
Larry, Just Google MMS. Jim Humble, the inventor, also has a site you can visit. Bob - Original Message - From: Larry Biggar To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: Re: CSMMS and Colloidal silver together?? Anybody?? Hi Erik! I would like to find out what MMS is. As well as the other abreviations that i see on here. You have any idea where i can find this info? Thanks, Larry --- On Sat, 10/17/09, Nils-Erik Stromback n.stromb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Nils-Erik Stromback n.stromb...@gmail.com Subject: CSMMS and Colloidal silver together?? Anybody?? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, October 17, 2009, 5:05 AM Hi, I would like to hear if any one out there has tryed mixing CS and MMS and what the results has been. Best regards, -- Erik
Re: CStreating shingles
sol, Silver has shown to regenerate damaged nerves as per Dr. Becker. Also, it's highly possible that active virus is still attacking her nerves. Bob - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: Re: CStreating shingles Bob Banever wrote: I have cured shingles with CS. Try mixing 20% DMSO with 80% CS and rubbing it on the area daily. Also take about 2oz of pure CS internally every day. The thing is for this friend she no longer has any active shingles virus. It is now the nerve pain she is left with. If the virus is no longer present or active, how will the CS help If the CS and DMSO is thought to be able to reverse the nerve damage she is left with, I will tell her about it even so. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStreating shingles
I cured a patient of shingles by giving here CS to drink... 2oz a day is all it took. Gone within a week never to return. Bob - Original Message - From: kath kathy.she...@verizon.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:08 PM Subject: RE: CStreating shingles When I had shingles CS in a spray bottle helped contain the outbreak somewhat, but it was still very painful for a while. What helped the pain, besides advil, was a paste of rubbing alcohol and crushed aspirin, leaving it open to air as much as possible. Wishing her a speedy recovery, shingles is awful. Kathy -Original Message- From: cla...@jazznsamba.com [mailto:cla...@jazznsamba.com] Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CStreating shingles Hello All, A friend has been quite ill with some kind of chest infection for the past five weeks and with it has had shingles. The rash is somewhat better but the sensitivity is still very present. If anyone here has experience using CS or anything else to treat shingles please share your treatment protocol(s). TIA! CS success story: I've been very ill myself with bronchial pneumonia which I've been successfully treating with CS. I've been taking it internally nebulizing with a mixture of CS/DMSO/MSM/Xylitol. I added xylitol because I've had mold problems in the past and feel this episode could also be a mold co-infection. (I *should* have begun treatment immediately when the symptoms presented but I didn't realize initially how serious the infection was...) I realize many people feel it's unnecessary to add both MSM and DMSO to the nebulizing mixture, but in the past I felt I had better success using both than just DMSO alone. FWIW. Claire -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStreating shingles
I have cured shingles with CS. Try mixing 20% DMSO with 80% CS and rubbing it on the area daily. Also take about 2oz of pure CS internally every day. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: CStreating shingles I have a friend who has been left with awful nerve pain post shingles. Her doctors say the nerves are damaged and the pain will never go away. ??? sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgunky dog earss - CS / DMSO
Dianne, It depends on what is causing the infection in the ears. If it is yeast (very common, usually brownish gunk) then vinegar will deal with it quite well. Use white vinegar and dilute it 5/1 with water (5 parts water, 1 part vinegar). You can use a cotton swab to GENTLY clean the ears with the same solution, but first fill the ear canal with the liquid and then massage it in, then let the dog shake it out as much as possible. CS will deal with bacterial or viral problems, not yeast IMO. Mites might need a mitecide of some sort. Bob - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:40 AM Subject: CSgunky dog earss - CS / DMSO Hello group- We have friends visiting that have brought their older lab with them and the poor thing has terribly gunky ears. She has been using a store bought solution for cleaning and vet purchased liquid for treating the ears but it never goes away. My question is would cs alone take care of the problem or would you need to put some DMSO in with it to penetrate the gunk? Would this mixture be safe for a dog? Dianne -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.
Re: CSBone Spur
LOL - Original Message - From: zoe w To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: Re: CSBone Spur LOL, I drank it. 8-) MaryAnn Helland wrote: Ummm Zoe? After you put the cayenne pepper in the Bragg's Raw Apple Cider vinegar -- what exactly did you do with this stuff? MA From: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 4:40:28 PM Subject: Re: CSBone Spur Once upon a time I had bonespurs on both heels- quite painful and one on my wrist just below the thumb joint which interfered with thumb movement and was also quite painful. I also had some painful hemorrhoids for which someone advised I put some cayenne pepper in some Bragg's Raw Apple Cider vinegar. This seemed really strange to me but others on the list verified it worked so I tried it.Not only did it clear the rrhoids after about 3 weeks I noticed that all the bone spurs were gone as well. That was several years ago and none have come back. zoe Dan Nave wrote: This was written by ransley a few months ago. It may relate to your inquiry about bone spur mitigation... Dan -- Forwarded message -- From: rans...@atmc.net Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:20 AM Subject: RE: CSSynopsis of my experience with Magnesium Bicarbonate To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo..com Mike wrote: Do you take these magnesium doses on an empty stomach? You say you did this mostly at night, so I'm wondering how long after meals or snacking... When you get a chance would you please describe what you're doing with (digestive enzymes), as well as product source and maybe pointers to information you've found useful? I think either or both of these therapies may end up being part of my own path to recovery. Hey Mike- Sorry to take so long, been out of town for a few days. Yes, on empty stomach, 2 hours minimum after eating anything and preferably not having eaten too much at that time just to be sure. Sometimes 3-4 hours since I was really serious about getting the best effect of this. I did it at night merely because magnesium is calming and inducing of sleep and because some of these effects demanded being still. I have another reason for getting into enzymes. My wife has a breast lump that was not diagnosed as cancerous, but the surgeon tried to scare her into immediate surgery. We are limited in our options about that here especially because of medical mega-corporations moving into the area. So we're going alternative. Enzymes are part of what we're doing and I'm doing everything she's doing just on general principle. Besides, I have a few lumps and such scattered around and want to see what enzymes will do for them. There are many excellent enzymes out there, so many that it is confusing, but I was really impressed when Bragg's got into the act: www.braggzyme.com. It seems to me that Bragg's doesn't get into something that they don't totally believe in. I listened to the audio at that site by William Wong, over and over and decided this was for me. We ordered ours from Fubao Health Store in San Francisco and were pleased with their price and their free shipping deal over $99. Delivery was timely. My wife is eating raw Daikon Radish as part of her enzyme effort. Supposedly they help disperse fibro-tumors. We are also considering Lumbrokinase which is fairly new. I'd really like to hear from anyone who has taken it. Hope this helps, Bob/DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDental Issues
Dan, In my experience the most effective way of getting rid of dental infections in roots, in teeth, or in gums, is by using a DC current of 3 volts, switching polarity every three or four minutes. This can easily be done with a device known as the Godzilla. This method rarely fails... and the bacteria are killed usually within 6 minutes no matter where they reside. Go to microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo... You can make your own device for less than $10.00. It has saved me many visits to the dentists office. Bob - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: Re: CSDental Issues My experience has been that swishing and brushing CS helps only with surface infection and plaque. If you have pockets of infection, you would need to use something like CS with 20%, by volume, of DMSO. Swish this in the mouth for up to 5 minutes. Repeat daily for as long as it takes, depending on how bad the infections are. The DMSO will allow the CS to penetrate the tissues. Otherwise, the CS will only work on the surface tissues. Also, get one of those rubber dental probes, such as they used to have on the bottom of toothbrushes years back. Use the point, gently, to trace between the teeth and gum, with the tip pointing towards the gum. Then insert the rubber tip between each pair of teeth and and press Up or Down towards the gum (on the upper jaw, press up, on the lower jaw, press down). This presses the puss out of the pockets. You can press the gums with your finger too, from the gum towards the tooth for deep pockets on the sides of teeth. I know DMSO tastes terrible, but one can get used to it (I did), and it is not as bad as some other things... This WILL get rid of most of the problem. MMS has been known to help with killing germs and tightening gums, but I have read many reports of people who indicate that it affected their enamel because it was too acidic. Be careful... Dan On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Ruth Bertella berte...@lfdcbham.com wrote: I went to the dentist yesterday. Apparently my periodontal disease is back (well, I'm thinkin it never fully goes away - ya must have to stay very diligent forever). Or at least it's a big problem again (wonder why nothing was said 6 months ago?). I thought I had conquered this back in 2005 with diligent cleaning and almost obsessive use/swishing of CS. I only had a minimal amount of plaque (less than most patients they said). Some of my teeth have gotten loose this time as well. There is only one that is noticeable to me. But on the xrays you can see where the bone is deteriorating. The dentist said this will spread and the worst teeth should probably be pulled. And the pockets in the gums have enlarged again. He wrote an rx for doxycycline and wants me to see a periodontist. I did not fill the rx and don't intend to see any other doctors. I told him this, and about CS, and he wants to see me again on 11/5/09 to see how I progress with my 'home remedies'. LOL He's not against my using home remedies, but of course says he can't professionally endorse them either. He's giving me time to try to fix things before making further recommendations. (IF I fix everything, he will probably want to do two crowns and possibly redo my upper partial to accommodate the crown that has broken. The other is a cavity on the lower back molar at the gum line in the very back hardest to reach place - so he wants to crown instead of filling the cavity? go figure!)) I know I can mostly handle the pockets with very, very diligent muliple times daily swishing CS. But it seems a while back, someone posted about a protocol that actually tightened their teeth. Anyone remember that? Details please - what/how much/when, etc. What suggestions can y'all offer to 'tighten' the teeth, keep the one cavity in check so he doesn't have to fill or crown, rebuilding the bone and enamel, and a long term plan to keep all this from raising it's ugly head again? Thanks in advance for all suggestions! Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: FW: CSMMS and MRSA
That's wonderful! I hope he goes back to the doctors that wanted to give him the antibiotics and shows them what happened. These folks need to be shown the truth. - Original Message - From: zoe w To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 3:08 PM Subject: Re: FW: CSMMS and MRSA Fantastic !!! Dianne France wrote: I sent this email this morning but it didn't show up so am resending. From: dianne_fra...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMMS and MRSA Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:36:17 -0400 I called our friend this morning to check on her X's progress. She said he took a second dose of AMMS 15 drops and only had minor side effects. He said the side effects were nothing compared to what he had been going to. He not only had sores down his arm but on his head and neck. He had been to a walk in clinic and they looked at him and gave him a broad spectrum antibiotic and said if he wasn't better in 8 days to come back in. They also did a culture. A nurse that lives next door to him looked at him after he got home and said it was classic MRSA. That was when he called my friend. The nurse had told him to take pictures of the sores to document it because of the lack of care of the walk in clinic. His wife was going to but first needed to go into their office and pay their employees. She was gone several hours and during that time he kept putting CS on the sores and had taken the AMMS. By the time she got back the sores started to dry up. His color is back to normal with the AMMS and he plans to continue. The clinic got the labs back and has put eight urgent messages on his phone for him to call them because they probably now know if was MRSA and I'm not sure if they have to report that or not. Anyway, he said if he continues like he's going on the AMMS and CS by Monday he will be fine. Looks like the alternatives worked. My friend said she is now a believer. She said to thank the group for all the information they pass onyou guys do make a difference. Dianne Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:41:21 -0400 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMMS and MRSA That is quite a testimony. Please keep us posted as to his progress. zoe Dianne France wrote: I talked to a friend today that had gotten a call from her X's wife saying he was very very sick (MRSA) and wanted to know if she had anything he could take to keep him from the hospital. I had recently given her some MMS for a fungus on her mule and she has been using CS also recently. She took both over there to him. She said he looked like death, not gray but a pasty clay color and had lumps down his arm. She couldn't believe he wasn't in the hospital. She had downloaded the on-line book on MMS and gave that to him, explained how to mix it and left a sprayer filled with cs for his arm. He was in bad shape and she was worried about being exposed herself. He sprayed his arm with CS and said it immediately felt better. He took 15 drops of AMMS. She was worried because she had never used MMS internally. She called this morning and talked to his wife to see how he was doing and she said he was 200% better and had gone to work. I was worried about the side effects of MMS (nausia/diarhria) at the 15 drop level without build up. I will be interested to see how this turns out but didn't know the MMS could work so fast on MRSA. I'm glad I just ordered more. Dianne -- Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.
Re: CSLung Cancer
Deb. Look into oleanders...@yahoogroups.com. Oleander extract has shown to be very beneficial for cancer. Also cannabis oil (not hemp seed oil) is supposedly a very effective cure for cancer. Go to Phoenixtears.ca for more info. If she lives in a state where medical marijuana is legal she can do this. It is said you must consume 60grams of the oil over a 90 day period. Good luck. Bob - Original Message - From: Acmeair To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:18 PM Subject: Re: CSLung Cancer ldn_4_can...@yahoogroups.com take a look at this site.jimLDN_4_cancer LDN_4_cancer Sep 30, 2009 04:06:37 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote: I have a 54 year old lady from another group who has sharred she has lung cancer. Any and all advice to go after this cancer would surely be appreciated by her family, thanks deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSCS for Equine sweet itch
Peter, I've found that CS will heal the wounds better than anyting. Don't know about preventing the bites in the first place though. Bob - Original Message - From: Misc. IP Group To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:23 AM Subject: CSCS for Equine sweet itch Hi anybody used CS for equine sweet itch or any other recommendations? Have a stallion who is suffering terribly and if any part of his body is exposed he’s bitten badly and now has scabs and open wound in those places. Tried fly sprays, sweet itch blankets etc but still to no avail. Was wondering if spraying CS would help or if it needs to be combined with something to 1) help heal the wounds and b) strengthen his system to be able to fight the sweet itch naturally. Many thanks Peter
Re: CSE.I.S. and DMSO 60/40
Melly, Most likely that DMSO is diluted, especially if it was meant to be applied to the skin directly. - Original Message - From: Melly Bag To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: Re: CSE.I.S. and DMSO 60/40 Oh, my, i got a roll-on dmso which i applied directly on my skin. Melly --- On Mon, 9/28/09, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net Subject: Re: CSE.I.S. and DMSO 60/40 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 4:51 AM DMSO is exothermic with water, which is why it shouldn't be put on the skin or consumed before diluting it. Most pure acids and bases do that as well. Mixing Lye crystals with water can get REAL hot, some acids, explosively so. Ode At 03:29 PM 9/27/2009 -0500, you wrote: I have just completed setting up a little 4oz. Spritzer bottle with about 2 1/2 ounces of E.I.S. ~15PPM and about 1 1/2 ounces of 99% DMSO. When I added the DMSO, the mixture immediately got hot! Not boiling, but probably somewhere around 140 degrees F. Should that happen? There is a warning on the DMSO bottle about adding DMSO to acid chlorides sometimes reacting explosively, but the E.I.S. should be nothing but double distilled water and silver. Explanations, anyone? Olin Boyer Tulsa, OK -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNano Silver
Tim, Colloidal silver is a term used to describe electrolytically isolated silver... these ARE nano silver solutions. Most of the silver colloids contain 80% or more of ionic silver with the rest being particulate. All particles are nano silver particles in these solutions when it is made with distilled water and .999 fine silver with nothing added. Bob - Original Message - From: Tim Rowe To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:25 AM Subject: CSNano Silver Hi, Recently, I have come across a few articles and websites touting Nano Silver as being superior to Colloidal - more effective. Is there any objective truth to this, or is it hype? Best, Tim -- http://timrowe.co.uk http://timrowe.posterous.com
Re: CSCS and Scarring
zoe, Yes CS can indeed prevent scarring. Silver ions de-differentiate cells... they go from abnormal to normal with the silver present. It helps heal lacerations of all sorts... it even helps change cancer cells back into normal cells. Bob - Original Message - From: zoe w To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 9:51 AM Subject: CSCS and Scarring Diane, There is a silver creme called Silvodene(sp) that is used to prevent scarring in burn victims, so it stands to reason that the CS would do the same.That Dr's attitude is unbelieveable ! Good for you, those kids are lucky to have you around. zoe Diane Mackey wrote: Gina, CS tastes like water. Why wouldn't they drink it? My 6 year old nephew had some kind of virus on his skin that looked like a wart, one on his chin, three on his back shoulder and two behind his ear. I was concerned that it was his head area where this was breaking out. One of the bumps on his back and another behind his ear, got infected looking, with a head that was a hard crust. SIL took him to the docs and she said It's a virus, leave it alone and it will go away in a year. That week, he got two more bumps. I had to ask my SIL if she was comfortable knowing her gorgeous little boy had a virus on his face and head, near his brain, and the doc wasn't concerned. I got my point across. I sprayed CS on him all day. He thought it was a great game, and I even sprayed it in his mouth and eyes to show him it didn't sting. So, every half hour, he got some CS. The very next day, the infection was gone. So I got an emery board and scratched the tops of the virus and continued to spray his skin and mouth. He was clear in seven days. Every day I had him, three days a week, I sprayed his mouth with CS and it never came back. He takes care of all his boo-boos now with CS, as do his brothers. I got them some ASAP CS gel too. He is the only one of three who didn't get mosquito bites this year. Could the CS possibly been the reason? I also noticed his deeper abrasions were not leaving scars on his legs. Can CS keep your skin from scarring? Diane - Original Message - From: Gina Moore To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 11:18 AM Subject: CSgiving CS to kids So, I want to give my kids CS. Both as a preventative and if they get some 'bug' as a treatment. I'm sure they won't drink it straight, so is there anything I can mix it with so it won't taste bad (to them)? I know you aren't supposed to mix it with anything, but I just don't see them drinking it straight, or even diluted in water. Any tips would be appreciated! Gina -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2396 - Release Date: 09/26/09 05:51:00
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2009 #566
Marshall, Do not ingest it if it isn't food grade. Bob - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:19 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2009 #566 The DE I have is Perma-Guard brand, which is labeled as an insecticide for grain or seed storage. Marshall Garnet wrote: White Food Grade Melly Bag wrote: Garnet Thanks. Was your DE white (from shell) or brown (earth). Melly -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Mary was // Re: CSHomeopathic Silver
MaryAnn, CS is not a heavy metal and isn't handled by the body as one either. Aside from that, at 10 or 20 ppm it is a homeopathic product and 80% or so is in the ionic form, all particles being small nano sized silver. There is no danger of long term use in horses that I know of. Most gets excreted within 24 hours, and remainder within a few days or week at the most. Bob - Original Message - From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:36 AM Subject: Re: Mary was // Re: CSHomeopathic Silver Hi Jane. Thank you for your reply. EPM is Equine Protozoal Myloencephalitis -- a protozoal infection of the spinal cord, resulting in neurological symptoms consistent with the location of the infective lesion(s). Standard allopathic drug treatment is very expensive, and rarely effective for the simple reason that it isn't continued long enough. One of the reasons that EIS is so valuable as a treatment protocol is that it is very in-expensive, and people can afford to treat their horses for as long as necessary. EPM isn't unlike Lyme in that the protozoa seem to have the ability to hide in the body where the meds bypass them, then they re-emerge later to create havoc again. So -- I'm of the mind, as I think are most of the list-members here, that the EIS that we make is at the least as good as, and likely superior to, any other silver product. I feel that we're already using what is most appropriate -- we've been successfully using it for many years. The information that I'm needing is how to explain to a vet who is apparently misinformed about silver products, that she is (misinformed) and to be able to explain why. Anyone who is referring to CS as *heavy metal* isn't educated on the subject -- and if you're going to tell this to a vet, you better be understanding the information yourself. So that's the kind of information that I'm looking for. Thanks again. MA -- From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 7:55:09 AM Subject: Mary was // Re: CSHomeopathic Silver Mary you need to get an on-line homeopathic materia medica and check out the varieties of silver to be found in it and then choose what is most appropriate for your needs. Not sure what EPM is to comment further, Best, Jane
Re: CSDo i need a nebuliser?
Ode, Very true. You might need to add a small amount of DMSO. Virus can hide behind mucous making it difficult to contact. Taking some Vit.D3, C, and selenium might help to prevent infection also. As the saying goes. This bud's for you! Bob - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 3:29 AM Subject: Re: CSDo i need a nebuliser? A friend of the family in his 80s had a lung infection that just wasn't responding to treatment. His doctor basically gave up and pronounced his very limited life span. My Dad gave him a CS generator and a spray bottle which he carried in his pocket, inhaling the mist whenever he felt the urge. With a few days his pain was subsiding and each check up by his Doc showed an improvement. She said I don't know what you are doing, but keep it up. To use a spritzer as a nebulizer: Form a O shape with mouth, inhale air as fast and deep as possible. As the air is rushing in, fill it with mist. Hearken back to your Doobie filled collage years and remember how not to cough. [You may have had training you are not aware of] Within a few weeks he was pronounced infection free. Interesting guy, Hans. He was a resistance fighter in the Netherlands in WW2, head quartered right next door to the occupying Nazi headquarters...and pioneered the manufacture of IC chips made with a micro sandblaster of all things. Speaking of intrepid pioneers... There is someone on this list that discovered that a slight bit of steady reverse pressure can fill a bladder rather than empty it. Filled with CS straight up, a bladder infection doesn't have a prayer. Oh yea... a toke or two can dry out your lungs like no over the counter medication ever will. Congestive cough that nothing will touch ? My ex had a cough that kept her awake for 3 days and she was turning blue. NOTHING even touched it..but 2 tokes on some bud and..well, she said Does it work instantly? ..coughed twice more and went to sleep breathing easy, cough gone for good. I met a guy last year that made Bud Butter for his kids when the disease pool of public school made it's mark...it WORKS. Cotton Mouth is not just a Southern snake and Bud Wiser ain't just driving cars in circles real fast while shedding cylindrical Aluminum objects. That, CS and spray bottle might just be what it takes to survive the *Flying Pigs Flew* when the hospitals are overloaded. Ode At 06:56 PM 9/17/2009 -0700, you wrote: You folks are terrific! I have been stricken with asthma and bladder infections a couple of years ago. I know they aren't connected. But they're a hassle. Especially the bladder infections! Now if i could breath a vapor of CS with maybe other additives. Could i treat these problems? Do i just need some kind of sprayer or would i need a nebulizer? I use two inhalers now. I think my heart attacks and congestive heart failure has something to do with my breathing. When i was with Intel. We called team knowledge that was learned mostly by experience. Tribal knowledge. I think you people are very good sources of CS tribal knowledge! I also suffer from diabetes. Which when i have scrapes and sores. I sprayer would be nice to spray on my cuts, besides spraying in my mouth/nose. Plus i think I'll buy one of Ole's gel kits. I think by using these methods and asking your knowledge. I will have some positive results to show my VA Dr. Until then I don't think I'll spring it on him. Then after positive results. I think he will buy into the CS treatment! He has been impressed with my other natural healing and prayers! I can hardly wait till i can get my VA check next week to order my Silver Puppy from Ole! If you include potions and elixirs. Please include a recipe. Thanks for all your anticipated great help! Larry -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEU666...US666 ]Leslie]
Leslie, Try to buy organic cilantro if possible. It's impossible to know if the cilantro will contain mercury because it is in the air and water everywhere. Bob - Original Message - From: Leslie To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:35 AM Subject: Re: CSEU666...US666 ]Leslie] Is there a way to know if the cilantro is ok and has no mercury?? What is you wash the leaves in CS? - Original Message - From: Melly Bag To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 12:39 AM Subject: RE: CSEU666...US666 ]Leslie] Parsley has bigger leaves than cilantro. Also coriander is the seed of the cilantro plant. It is the cilantro leaves that detoxes mercury. I know very well if i ingested mercury laced food because my ears gets sharp cricket sounds for a long time, that i have even learned to ignore it. Melly Melly --- On Wed, 9/16/09, kath kathy.she...@verizon.net wrote: From: kath kathy.she...@verizon.net Subject: RE: CSEU666...US666 ]Leslie] To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 8:32 AM If you are using cilantro for mercury removal be careful of your source. Since it has such a high propensity for mercury the plants can be contaminated before you use them, and then you are giving yourself mercury. Kathy -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEU666...US666 ]Leslie] In my experience Cilantro is much cheaper than Chinese Parsley... Dan On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: BTW, you may have been thinking of coriander rather than cholorella, Marshall. In Google-searching for information about parsley versus cilantro I found a lot of confusing statements and some misinformation. Wikipedia provides what looks like the best overview: Parsley (Petroselinum crispum) is a bright green biennial herb, often used as spice. It is common in Middle Eastern, European, and American cooking. Parsley is used for its leaf in much the same way as coriander (which is also known as Chinese parsley or cilantro), although parsley has a milder flavor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsely Bottom line: for purging mercury, you want the leaves of what is known as Chinese Parsley/ cilantro. On Wednesday, Sep 16, 2009, at 11:43 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: With respect, no. There is more than kind of parsley; cilantro is one of them. Chlorella is an algae. There are several kinds with different claimed benefits. I have read the mercury scavenging claims also. On Wednesday, Sep 16, 2009, at 00:13 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote: Two names, same plant. Marshall Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: So does chlorella. dee On 15 Sep 2009, at 00:55, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: Research by Y. Omura, M.D., indicates that cilantro effectively removes mercury from the human body. There are various recipes for cilantro sauces on the Internet, as well as sources for capsules. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSuggestions for what to do if you decline the vaccine
Marshalee, I hope so because I am very allergic to eggs. Bob - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:04 PM Subject: Re: CSSuggestions for what to do if you decline the vaccine If all else fails just say you are allergic to eggs, that will do it!! Marshalee On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net wrote: What to do if you Plan to Decline the Swine Flu Vaccine: • Ask your State Attorney General, Legislator or Governor whether your state law exemptions from vaccine programs (medical, religious, philosophical) apply during a declared pandemic or health e...mergency. • If exemptions are available, contact your health care or school professionals for forms to fill out giving notice that you or your family members are exempt and are declining the vaccines and/or treatments. • Find out if swine flu or pandemic vaccines will be required for students and staff in order to attend public schools. • Pursuant to Federal Law (NVICP 1986), demand that your vaccine provider give you a benefit and risk vaccine information statement prior to vaccination. They must obtain your written consent before administration. • Find out if exposed persons have the right to self-quarantine at home. -- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090917-0, 17/09/2009 Tested on: 18/09/2009 7:34:33 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software.
Re: CSswine flu vaccine
Day, You're probably referring to Squalene. This is an oil based protein that is found naturally in most of our cells. When injected the body attacks it outside of the cells... and as a result attacks our cells that contain squalene as well. So effective is this response that it is used to make biowarfare weapons. It is found naturally in olives among other foods. Ingesting it is harmless... injecting it is deadly. Auto-immune diseases will result. Bob - Original Message - From: Day Sutton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:22 PM Subject: Re: CSswine flu vaccine there is an adjunct in the vaccines (some) that causes a severe immune response. forgotten the name of it, but silver or mms will not neutralize it... On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca wrote: Hi Folks, I would think that MMS would oxidize anything that you don't want in you from a vaccine if taken promptly and in high enough doses. That would be my approach if I am forced (held down, kicking and screaming) to be vaccinated. Hopefully, none of this will come to pass in our lifetimes but it seems that things are heading in that direction for the not-too-distant future. People collectively need to stand up against this kind of thing if it rears its ugly head. Peter - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:53 AM Subject: Re: CSswine flu vaccine 2009/9/16 Frank fco...@comcast.net If a person were to get a swine flu vaccine injection would CS kill off the product that was injected and thus void the immunity of the injection? Thanks Frank I don'k know for sure but I don't think silver alone would do it but I found this on Mercola's site The Following was composed by Dr. Russell Blaylock as a method to reduce autoimmune reactions to the flu vaccines only. Do not use this if you have the flu itself. These are just general observations and not medical advice. You should work with your doctor for a specific program. Treatment for Toxic Vaccine Exposure 1.. Place a cold compress on the site of the injection immediately after the injection and continue this as often as possible for at least two days. If symptoms of fever, irritability, fatigue or flu-like symptoms reoccur -- continue the cold compresses until they abate. A cold shower or bath will also help. 2.. Take fish oils -- I recommend the Norwegian fish oil made by Carlson Labs -- it has the correct balance of EPA and DHA to reduce the cytokine storm. The dose is one tablespoon a day -- if severe symptoms develop -- two tablespoons a day until well and then switch to one tablespoon a day. Children -- one teaspoon a day. 3.. Curcumin, quercetin, ferulic acid and ellagic acid as a mixture -- the first two must be mixed with extravirgin olive in one teaspoon. Take the mix three times a day (500 mg of each) 4.. Vitamin E (natural form) 400 IU a day (high in gamma-E) 5.. Vitamin C 1000 mg four times a day 6.. Astaxanthin 4 mg a day 7.. Zinc 20 mg a day for one week then 5 mg a day 8.. Avoid all immune stimulating supplements (mushroom extracts, whey protein) except beta-glucan -- it has been shown to reduce inflammation, microglial activation and has a reduced risk of aggravating autoimmunity, while increasing antiviral cellular immunity. 9.. Take a multivitamin/mineral daily (one without iron -- Extend Core) 10.. Magnesium citrate/malate 500 mg of elemental magnesium two capsules three times a day 11.. Vitamin D3: 1.. All Children -- 5000 IU a day for two weeks after vaccine then 2000 IU a day thereafter 2.. Adults -- 20,000 IU a day after vaccine for two weeks then 10,000 IU a day thereafter 3.. Take 500 mg to 1000 mg of calcium citrate a day for adults and 250 mg a day for children under age 12 years. 12.. Avoid all mercury-containing seafood 13.. Avoid omega-6 oils (corn, safflower, sunflower, soybean, canola and peanut oils) 14.. Blenderize parsley and celery and drink 8 ounces twice a day 15.. Take Jatoba tea extract (add 20 drops in on cup of tea) one day before the vaccine and the twice a day thereafter. (you can get it at http://www.iherb.com/Amazon-Therapeutics-Jatoba-1-oz-30-ml/14429?at=0) It is inexpensive. Hope this helps Kirsteen -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSChemotherapy
Pat, It just so happens that the only type of cancer that does respond well to chemo is lymphoma Hodgkins and non-Hodgkins. These are liquid cancers and not solid tumors (until an advanced stage). As far as breast cancer is concerned... if a woman is lucky enough to have the tumor surgically removed that hasn't spread and is the only growth, then that will cure the cancer (but not get rid of the cause). The chemo and radiation is done just in case but does not work well on breast or any solid tumor. By far and away alternative methods work better. Cannabis oil (not hemp seed oil) is one of the most effective on this planet. Oleander extract (Sutherlandia OPC), IP6, colloidal silver, iodine (specific for breast and thyroid cancers), cansema (blood root tincture) are all very effective as well but are usually used together. Cannabis oil is by far the most natural and effective therapy out there IMO. Bob - Original Message - From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:51 PM Subject: CSChemotherapy Why do these people (Health Ranger) emphatically claim that NO ONE has ever been cured of cancer by chemotherapy? My father in law had chemo for non-Hodgkins lymphoma at 85 and an interferon therapy a couple years later, then had heart bypass at 89 and was fine till 94. I know several women who've had breast cancer and after surgery and chemo have survived without cancer symtoms for all these years. That is just why alternative medicine proponants lose credibility, they make sweeping dismisals of all mainstream medical treatments. They are so hostile to physicians that they don't even realize that THE DOCTOR WANTS TO SUCCEED BY MAKING THE PATIENT WELL. Course, I'm thinking I might try home treatment if it ever happens to me. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHigh Fever/Flu symptoms
Tara, When I had flu like symptoms last year I took MMS and colloidal silver. My symptoms were gone in two days. Started with 2 drops MMS and worked my way up to 6 drops every couple of hours. Took 3 oz of silver in the AM and PM. Seemed to have worked for me. Bob - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:38 PM Subject: Re: CSHigh Fever/Flu symptoms I would be taking 5 Olive Leaf Capsules or strong tea, boiled (decoction) with plenty of lemon and honey to make it palatable, a cup every 3-4 hours. Garnet Tara McClintick wrote: Hi Silver Listers, I’m using Argentyn 23 for immune support for my younger son, (I know it is expensive, but I’ve already bought it) – my older son has come home today with Flu symptoms , 102.5 fever, achy, headache, chills. I’m reading Silver can combat Flu, any experience? any suggestions on how can I determine the dosage? He’s 170lbs. lean build. Thanks, Tara Tara McClintick www.booksbytara.com http://www.booksbytara.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2009 #524
Alan, That is the right selenium. Either they isolated the selenium from the yeast so that none remains or it is from a different source. Same selenomethionine though. Bob - Original Message - From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:03 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2009 #524 Thanks Steve. The brand I'm taking is NOW, the label says it is yeast free but also says it is L-Selenomethionine. I guess it's not the right one? Alan On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: Selenomethionine. I believe that it is a yeast derived selenium. - Steve N From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat Sep 12 19:21:08 2009 Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2009 #524 What's the right selenium? Alan On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: Melly, It is my opinion that some silver does stay in the tissues when you use silver. But I think with prudent use the silver buildup can be maintained at a low enough level to avoid argryia. Such as not using silver nitrate, silver acetate or mild silver proteins. Not using high doses for a long long period. Based on what I have heard from others here on the list you can use large amounts of EIS for longer than you might expect. And using the right selenium when using EIS -- Alan Jones -- Alan Jones -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMMS news
Leslie, I'm normally a peaceful, law abiding citizen but this sort of medical fascism and genocide makes my blood boil. If I have to I will become a criminal in short order... no one is going to force me or my family to take a flu shot of any sort, PERIOD. My new motto will become... Don't Tread On Me. Bob - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:03 PM Subject: Re: CSMMS news Thanks. This has concerned me for awhile, but here is something very important at this time so wonder what might stop the action of this vac. For those of you who do not believe that the Government is going to Quarantine anyone for not having the N1H1 Swine Flu vaccination, I would like for you to watch this video, even if you think that there is a possibility of it please watch. This was just released yesterday 9/11/09 on Youtube during a conference in Texas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB7OwPk5Z78 - Original Message - From: SJY you...@relia.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: RE: CSMMS news Even nicer to learn about MMS2: http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro.htm Anyone have any personal opinions about it or experience with using it? Steve Y. -Original Message- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 7:48 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMMS news Nice to know this about MMS http://jimhumble.biz/biz-skin.htm Chuck God will forgive me. That's his job, after all. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.94/2366 - Release Date: 09/12/09 17:50:00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Impregnated Water Bottle
Garnet, Sounds like a great idea. If toxic components of plastic will indeed bond with silver to make it non toxic that would be wonderful. Good luck with this. Bob - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: CSSilver Impregnated Water Bottle http://www.MontecitoWellness.com/ A Non-Toxic Plastic Water Bottle Many folks know of the potential toxicity of plastic water bottles, but are not willing to lug around a heavy glass one. I will be commenting further about the unique properties of silver, and certainly one could safely drink out of a silver cup. I came up with the idea of combining silver and a plastic such as polycarbonate with two objectives in mind. First is to use the silver to bind with the toxic components in the plastic to prevent them from being leached into the water. Second is to provide a source of silver ions on the inside and outside surface of the container to disinfect the water in the container, and to disinfect the hands of the user on the outside of the container, in an effort to avoid the spread of nasty bacterial infections such as MRSA (methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus). I have filed a patent application covering the concept in the hope of attracting a company to commercialize it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmicrobes resistant to silver
None of these bacteria are resistant to silver. NONE. If silver doesn't kill them it's because the silver was not ionic and/or it did not make contact with the bacteria. Adding a 10% DMSO solution to the silver would solve the problem, assuming the silver is in the ionic form. Bacteria can hide in mucous, fat, protein, dead cells, folds of skin, etc. DMSO will bring the silver to the bacteria. Problem solved. Bob - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:29 PM Subject: Re: CSmicrobes resistant to silver Thank you for this important information. Have you reviewed the papers yourself? Are all of the specie resistant, or only certain strains? Will higher doses work against them. Thank you, Jim On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM, nenahsylver nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: A colleague I trust pointed out that published reports now cite pathogens that are resistant to silver. The following article explains the mechanism and cross-bacterial transfer of silver resistance genes among bacteria. http://www.wwdmag.com/Coping-with-Resistance-to-Copper-Silver-Disinfection-article2768 At the bottom of the page is list of some known resistances to copper and silver: Escherichia coli bacteria Cu Klebsiella pneumoniae bacteria Cu Ag Legionella pneumophilia bacteria Cu Ag Salmonella sp. bacteria Ag Vibrio cholerae bacteria Cu Ag Candida albicans yeast Cu Saccharomyces cerevisiae yeast Cu Ag Hartmenella vermiformis protozoa Cu Ag Tetrahymena pyriformis protozoa Cu Ag Paramecium sp. protozoa Cu Ag Amoeba sp. protozoa Cu Ag My colleague also did a PubMed search on silver resistance. She found that article 12829274 mentions that in 2003, E. coli strain O157:H7 was found to have silver resistance genes in its genome. I am wondering if we should be cautious about using CS routinely (meaning even when we aren’t ill). Or do you think the article is flawed? If so, what are the flaws? Thanks. Nenah
Re: CSSovergin Silver-Argentin 23
Lin, You are making excellent ionic/colloidal silver with the Silvergen. If you do it correctly, using just distilled water and .999 fine silver, you should come out with an 80%ionic, 20%particulate solution (or thereabouts). At 10ppm or so this should be an excellent silver for just about anything. Argentin23 is also an excellent product but not much different than what you are making. They claim it too is 10ppm and the nanoparticles of silver are supposedly very small. I don't know the ration of ions to particles in their product, but it probably won't work any better than you home made brew. Bob - Original Message - From: Lin Gregerson To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 6:23 PM Subject: CSSovergin Silver-Argentin 23 It seems like this brand of cs was discussed just a few weeks back. Is there anyone out there that saved the posts and can repost the highlights? What I'm looking for is the opinion of this product by some of the group long timers and how to explain the difference between this product and what I make with my SilverGen unit. I've been asked to meet with a Naturopath next week. I know she is familiar with Argentin 23. Thanks in advance for anything that posts. Lin
Re: [RE]CSmicrobes resistant to silver:Comment
Brooks, Very interesting and thank you for those observations. I would assume it is ok to ingest EIS with a 10% solution of DMSO, yes? I would further assume this same mixture can be used as a nasal irrigant or inhalant through a nebulizer. Comments welcome. Bob - Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:50 PM Subject: [RE]CSmicrobes resistant to silver:Comment Dear Nenah, We have not evaluated EIS against the bacterial agents referenced by your colleague in any isolated environemnt, specifically designed to measure toxicity. However, we have found that combining EIS with DMSO, has demonstrated togreatly increase effectivity..sometimes by an order-of-magnitude--against a multiplicity of bacterial pathogens, both in vitro and in vivo. It is my belief that very few, IF ANY, bacteria relying upon protein shields (or any tissue-based isolation medium) to bind or block the EIS component...are able to do so in the presence of EIS entrained in a weak (e.g. 10% ) DMSO solution. In past research evaluations we discovered that MANY conditions which served to greatly lower or prevent the effective intervention of EIS against pathogens (mucous isolation, some epithelial tissue interferences and even dead-tissue debris fields), were easily overcome through the addition of DMSO as an entrainment/transport medium. Our first successes with such protocols came circa 1996 when we prosecuted our earliest evaluations of the airbrush system as a successful intervention against double, bi-lateral, viral pneumonia [at which time there was NO known treatment of effective nature). We DID encounter circumstances in which applying EIS to in vitro colonies of pathogens were...initiallyunsuccessful-but when the EIS solution was mixed with a companion DMSO (10% by volume) and reapplied..complete control resulted in less than 6 minutes in most casesand in 10 minutes in 95% of the cases. This result presented against EVERY bacteria we confronted in these evaluations. As a postscript I might add that at that time (circa 1996-98) we encountered only one bacteria which successfully resisted EISafter experiencing actual physical contact. The bacteria (which name escapes my memory, but can be supplied if someone wants to put me on-the-rack) was one found in silver mines proper. Interestingly, after 9 generations of isolation from the silver-impregnated environment of the mines, themselves-the bacteria LOST its tolerance against EIS. With Warmest Regards, Brooks. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : CSmicrobes resistant to silver Date : Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:02:00 -0700 From : nenahsylver nenahsyl...@cox.net To : silver-list@eskimo.com A colleague I trust pointed out that published reports now cite pathogens that are resistant to silver. The following article explains the mechanism and cross-bacterial transfer of silver resistance genes among bacteria. http://www.wwdmag.com/Coping-with-Resistance-to-Copper-Silver-Disinfection-a rticle2768 At the bottom of the page is list of some known resistances to copper and silver: Escherichia coli bacteria Cu Klebsiella pneumoniae bacteria Cu Ag Legionella pneumophilia bacteria Cu Ag Salmonella sp. bacteria Ag Vibrio cholerae bacteria Cu Ag Candida albicans yeast Cu Saccharomyces cerevisiae yeast Cu Ag Hartmenella vermiformis protozoa Cu Ag Tetrahymena pyriformis protozoa Cu Ag Paramecium sp. protozoa Cu Ag Amoeba sp. protozoa Cu Ag My colleague also did a PubMed search on silver resistance. She found that article 12829274 mentions that in 2003, E. coli strain O157:H7 was found to have silver resistance genes in its genome. I am wondering if we should be cautious about using CS routinely (meaning even when we aren't ill). Or do you think the article is flawed? If so, what are the flaws? Thanks. Nenah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: [RE]CSmicrobes resistant to silver:Comment
Thanks Nenah. Bob - Original Message - From: nenahsylver To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: RE: [RE]CSmicrobes resistant to silver:Comment On the DMSO egroup, there's lots of talk about using DMSO with CS. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009), now available in HARDCOVER The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy www.nenahsylver.com -- From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [RE]CSmicrobes resistant to silver:Comment Brooks, Very interesting and thank you for those observations. I would assume it is ok to ingest EIS with a 10% solution of DMSO, yes? I would further assume this same mixture can be used as a nasal irrigant or inhalant through a nebulizer. Comments welcome. Bob
Re: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)
Thora, Great post... Bravo! Bob - Original Message - From: Thora Rasmusen (Home) mugg...@cyberlink.bc.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:59 PM Subject: RE: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT) I live in a country with universal health care, and it's just as corrupt as the US. The problem with health care is not insurance or universal health care, or anything like that. It's the fact that main stream medicine completely ignores the fact that what we eat causes us to be sick. The promotion of junk food and garbage food is beyond any movement to promote healthy food. The craziness in our modern day system is all the insane things they do to our food, with pesticides, herbicides, food additives, chemicals in the water. It is everywhere, and so very few people have any knowledge of the damage these things do. So very few people have any idea of what healthy food is. Yesterday, I watched some one who had a blasting head ache all day sit down and eat an apple turnover, made with premixed pastry, premixed apple filling, premixed sugar topping, and a chocolate milk, and she truly thought it would make her feel better. What passes for food is disgusting, and what passes for restaurants is disgusting. I cringe every time I see the premade restaurant food delivery truck pull up to a restaurant. No one has any idea what whole food is, or what home made means. I'd love to see future food charts include a section called non-food to include things like sugar, white flour, etc. so that people begin to understand that there are things you should never eat. There are extremely few people out there sharing with us the damage that this stuff does, and those who do are ridiculed beyond belief. There is too much money to be made in processing food, and they have the knowledge to hire marketers, add people and the like. There is no money to be made in whole food, etc. Our society will need to make some sort of shift to get to the point where it will promote something that will make a huge portion of society poorer money wise so that all can be healthy. I have no idea what that shift will be. But I sure do know that all those around me think I'm a fruit cake with my eat natural attitude. Very few would tolerate that, and would just go back to following the crowd, so as to not make waves. Our society does not teach bucking the system at all. We're taught to follow, listen to the experts, and don't question. We are certainly not taught to question our medical system, that's taboo. So, if you're interested in health, do not listen to any expert, do your own research, and it will take a massive commitment of time. This knowledge isn't going to be handed to you on a silver platter. Remember, no oen makes a dime if you get well. No one. Only you are better off. No one is put in a stronger position of control if you are well. No one. Only you are stronger. No government agency or insurance company is better off if you are well, the reason for their existence will disappear if you are well, they will not be needed to take care of you, they will not be needed to run your life if your are well. You can then run your own life. Remember, only you benefit if you are well. I'll run my own life, thank you very much, and I don't care whether I live in a country with universal health or private, because I won't use it. Period. Thora -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:11 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT) If you think there is no rationing of health care right now, then you have been blessed with good heath. Or maybe you can get along ok with what passes for health care. But rationing does exist- through denial of care and exclusions of preexisting conditions. HMO's are big business at it's worst- making BILLIONS of dollars, even right now at the height of the recession. they are raking it in; by denying care and denying payment to doctors. They try to keep it all, as much as possible. The Truth that is represented here is a slanted view that is not based on reality- it IS happening already. To have control is to take responsibility for one's health and not to hand it over to HMO's, MD's or anyone. I would like to spend my health care money the way I want to- not the way the HMO thinks I should spend it. I can do that now if I want to be uninsured. On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Karen and Jerry Conrad wrote: I will keep sounding the alarm, anyone over the age of 40 needs to be concerned about this. Karen Conrad http://www.life-enhancement.com/article_template.asp?ID=2138 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to:
Re: CSRe:MMS ENCAPSULATION
If he lived in a state that allows medical marijuana he could purchase enough of it to make his own as well. Bob - Original Message - From: paul catania To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:31 PM Subject: CSRe:MMS ENCAPSULATION Dear Alan and Bob, Alan wrote. I'm pretty sure that guy doesn't sell the oil, and I'm pretty sure it's illegal. Too bad. Alan Bob wrote... Your friend might wish to consider marijuana oil as a potential cure for his cancer. It is backed by solid research. He would need to consume 60 grams over a 90 day period of the oil. Go to PhoenixTears.ca for more info and just google it as well. Watch Run from the Cure. Good luck. Bob No, he doesn't sell it to my knowledge, but it's not illegal everywhere. In some states, like mine (Nevada) you can get a permit to grow enough to make your own. But, assuming they approved his application and his reasons for it, by the time he would get the permit, grow it, and process it, he would be gone. (Dr.'s give him 3 months to live) Paul
Re: CSMMS ENCAPSULATION
Paul, Your friend might wish to consider marijuana oil as a potential cure for his cancer. It is backed by solid research. He would need to consume 60 grams over a 90 day period of the oil. Go to PhoenixTears.ca for more info and just google it as well. Watch Run from the Cure. Good luck. Bob - Original Message - From: paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:17 PM Subject: Re: CSMMS ENCAPSULATION Thank you Marshall, I was looking to circumvent the MMS side effects, but I guess that can't happen. Paul - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:16 PM Subject: Re: CSMMS ENCAPSULATION paul catania wrote: Hello all, I'd like to throw out an idea to all of you and would appreciate any and all feed-back. I recently posted about a friend of mine being diagnosed (3 days ago) with Lung and Brain cancer, which is now spreading. Dr.'s say he is beyond Chemo but they are going to try radiation to shrink the brain tumors in order to restore functionality to his right leg (which is numb and he cannot move). I was thinking of MMS, but I know he is not the best patient and so I was wondering if it would be feasable or even possible to do the following: 1) Disolve 12 tablespoons of lecithin granules in 60 ounces of distilled water. 2) Activate 150 drops of MMS with the juice of a whole lemon, in the usual 3 minute way, then add 4 ounces of water to the activated MMS. 3) Pour both solutions into the large UC and run for six 2-minute cycles. 4) Add 4 drops of DMSO either before encapsulation, or after? Would the MMS be encapsulated? Since you added the lemon, there is no MMS left. Instead you have a compound that breaks down over the next 12 hours and produces chlorine dioxide. That is a gas and would diffuse through any encapsulation very quickly. And, if so, would the side effects from the MMS be diminished or nullified? If you took it immediately after making, the effects would be dimished, since the chlorine dioxide would be encapsulated initially. I would expect it to behave more like unactivated MMS. I am not sure if the side effects would be changed or not. Would the addition of the DMSO intensify the benefits, or might it form detrimental compounds (in other words, should I leave it out, to be on the safe side)? Don't know. Marshall I realize that this is all speculation, but I wanted to brainstorm in order to best give my friend at least a fighting chance. Thanks, Paul p.s. I was thinking maybe 6 ounces in the a.m. and 6 ounces in the p.m.? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsoap for teeth cleaning
Yes I had the opportunity to speak with Dr. Judd before his passing and he did indeed use Cepacol because of the type of alcohol it contained. He even used it in a nebulizer for a bad flu he contracted. Bob - Original Message - From: Karen and Jerry Conrad To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:02 AM Subject: Re: CSsoap for teeth cleaning Like I said Dr Judd advocating using Cepacol mouthwash. Blessings Karen Conrad - Original Message - From: arthur rambo To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:49 AM Subject: Re: CSsoap for teeth cleaning Can you specify how much water/alchohol, and which kind? Grain, isopropyl,? --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Karen and Jerry Conrad micaiahspe...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Karen and Jerry Conrad micaiahspe...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: CSsoap for teeth cleaning To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 7:59 AM We use his tooth soap, it is great, my son does not brush hardly at all ever, yet, when he went to the dentist for a cleaning, the hygienist was amazed at how easy his cleaning went. a company called tooth soap makes Dr Judd's products, we get the liquid grape flavor, its great, my son will use that now, it is the only product he will use. Dr Judd also advocated the use of alcohol (breathing it in) as a cure for viruses such as flu and pneumonia, it WORKS, Unfortunately, he passed away several years ago.but I have several publications he wrote.You boil the alcohol on the stove and breathe it in 10-12 breaths at a time every few hours. He recommended using the mouthwash Cepacol rather than straight alcohol, that way you could also gargle with it and kill any virus in the throat too. HTH. Blessings Karen Conrad - Original Message - From: Ken Nancy Bagwell To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:44 AM Subject: CSsoap for teeth cleaning Hi all, A few questions: Does anyone have any experience using soap for brushing teeth? Also, what type of soap is used? Can it be made at home? I just read some info from a guy named Gerard F. Judd. Not sure what to make of it all at this time. -Ken Bagwell avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090826-0, 08/26/2009 Tested on: 8/27/2009 6:01:35 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software.
Re: CSsoap for teeth cleaning
Ivory soap should work just fine. Dr. Judd used it as well. - Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:59 AM Subject: Re: CSsoap for teeth cleaning If I am not mistaken, Brooks said he uses Ivory soap -- Original message from jr orrilia dallas6...@yahoo.com: -- Hi Ken. I had one purchased toothsoap, and the ingredients were pretty much the same as a healthy organic bar of soap. Some even use this, a bar of soap, it is just to find one that has a flavor that you can handle. The toothsoap I had purchased was peppermint, I just can't the remember the ingredients except for essential oils and olive oil. Orrilia From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:44:42 AM Subject: CSsoap for teeth cleaning Hi all, A few questions: Does anyone have any experience using soap for brushing teeth? Also, what type of soap is used? Can it be made at home? I just read some info from a guy named Gerard F. Judd. Not sure what to make of it all at this time. -Ken Bagwell Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail
Re: CS(LL) ?? Anything to use with CS/EIS during Chemo treatments
Pat, Marijuana oil is an actual cure for cancer. You should consume 60 grams over a 90 day period. Go to PhoenixTears.ca for more info. Solid research behind this. Bob - Original Message - From: Pat To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:18 PM Subject: Re: CS(LL) ?? Anything to use with CS/EIS during Chemo treatments Medical marijuana is legal in 13 states. Not mine though. http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/viewresource.asp?resourceID=000881 Pat -- From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:51:02 PM Subject: CS(LL) ?? Anything to use with CS/EIS during Chemo treatments A nice waitress, at a favorite restaurant, has a friend that has had part of his stomach removed due to cancer. She was in on a conversation at our table on CS / EIS. He starts chemotherapy next week wondered if there was anything that could help him in anyway. I thought the CS / EIS would stop possible infection . any other ideas would be much appreciated. It is sad medical Marijuana is not legal here in the States as I know that is very useful for those having chemo Thanks Lois. --
Re: CSVitamin B-12
Dianne, Sublingual methylcobalamin would be absorbed in the mucosal lining of the mouth. Bob - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: RE: CSVitamin B-12 Can we emulsify B12? Stomach acid destroys it so could this also be used in the same process as the VitC? If so which form of B12 might work best? Dianne -- From: d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVitamin B-12 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:22:56 +0100 The trouble with this is, that some people cannot tolerate yeast, and some people lack the ability to process the yeast to produce B12. This is why the sublingual tablet or spray is superior. Especially in the methylcobalamin form as this doesn't have to *be* processed at all as it is already in the most bioavailable form for the body to use. dee On 15 Aug 2009, at 05:47, davidandrenee wrote: Ruth The best source I know of for vitamin B-12 is nutritional yeast. It is natural and it is accepted by the body. NO SYNTHETICS Thank You David \ -- Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now.
