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Victor - Hulda Clark was one who believed in taking boron and so I have been taking it on and off over the years that I have used her products - they work if they are meant to work for you and if not then as Uncle Ben has said use something else that does Open mindedness is of the prime importance as I learned last year ! Cheers Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 3 Mar 2015, at 19:49, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Phil. I had actually been interested in selenium too, so I will take a look at that. In all honesty, with the way the winds blow, I worry more about all the pollution from China than I do about Fukushima. Tokyo has mostly clear blue skies, but I have seen them turn yellow during smog alerts. Thankfully, it is a very rare occurrence. Radiation and other contaminants are definitely an ever increasing problem that we must consider when managing our health. I'll be getting more familiar with boron. It actually brings back a bit of nostalgia for me, as I worked in a semiconductor lab years ago, where we used boron and phosphorous for doping the silicon :-) It is probably why I had an aversion to considering it for health purposes lol Victor On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Victor, Radiation is a bitch on DNA and all essential minerals, except boron, which is the only mineral that absorbs radiation without disturbing protons and neutrons in cell nucleus. Boron alone does not become radioactive. If one has adequate boron and iodine levels, the body is not affected. Hillman Health Foods in Hillman, Michigan offers a fine package of organic selenium, iodine, and boron with a couple of vits and Mg mixed in called Grand Unified Mineral Complex. Works great. Fukushima fallout is registering radiation of over 200 cpm on our West Coast. What must radiation be in Japan? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck Protocol
On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 4:16 PM, Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dee, you can get a good selection of Green pastures cod liver oils from funkyraw.com. here in the UK. They're a good firm to deal with. Ive used them a lot. Their prices and postage are the most reasonable I've found.Cheers Kirsteen On 3 Mar 2015 08:52, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the feeling the postage will be prohibitive.Dee Sent from my iPad On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hi RaVen, You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional deficiencies for the moment. The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice': greenpasture.org They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil:http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/ If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and purity of their products. They are heroes in my book. Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO). A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented soybean). A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused Coconut Oil product is another. Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they must be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring, sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among all of the 'primitive' people that used grains. OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition. Victor On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Victor, I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is related to skin issues and teeth issues. I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?) What are the superfoods you mentioned about? RaVen
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Thank you for the info Victor - much appreciatedDee Sent from my iPad On 3 Mar 2015, at 23:30, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry Dee lol Yes, you can get the Green Pasture products from many distributors in the UK. The best way to find them is to search for 'Blue Ice Code Liver Oil UK' or similar with 'Blue Ice' in it. You will see many vendors. Or you can go straight to Amazon.co.uk and do the same search. You will see many products. These products have quite a foul taste for most people, which is why capsule options are popular. However, the oils are much more cost effective. It is helpful to read all the information on the Green Pasture website to get a good idea about what to expect. Victor On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Hi Victor, I was actually talking about the fermented cod liver oil from green pasture.com. I myself have the Autozap and Zappicator which I believe is supposedly Hulda Clark.Dee Sent from my iPad On 3 Mar 2015, at 13:31, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dee, I have struggled myself with the idea of how to 'easily' get these devices. Dr. Beck was amazing, as he traveled around and showed people how to build these devices very cheaply, and he published all the schematics. However, that is still not practical for most of us. I have the devices from Sota Instruments in Canada, and I am not sure if they ship to the UK. And it is expensive in any case, even without shipping. There are various devices and plans published online, but I'm afraid that my opinion is not worth much concerning those. Others on this list know far more than I do. I have seen the 'Godzilla' zapper mentioned here and elsewhere previously, and of course the Hulda Clark device was just mentioned. But again, I am not sure if these are equivalent to the actual Beck devices. In late 2013 I actually purchased another set of devices from Sota, as they were the only devices that I was confident in. However, that speaks as much to my ignorance as my trust. I simply have not made enough effort to get comfortable with alternatives, and I am too lazy to build my own. The Sota devices have served me well, with my eight year old set still getting regular use, and a new set in NY being used by family members. As Nancy mentioned, the previous blood electrification unit was quite uncomfortable for most people; however, the newer unit is much better, though still cumbersome. I am curious about alternatives, so I will be educating myself further. I imagine that you can get a device for making ozonated water in the UK, and perhaps someone here has a recommendation. The Sota devices are good machines, and I recommend them, but I also appreciate that cost and logistics can be a deal breaker. I hope others have better answers for you. Victor On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the feeling the postage will be prohibitive.Dee Sent from my iPad On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hi RaVen, You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional deficiencies for the moment. The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice': greenpasture.org They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil: http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/ If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and purity of their products. They are heroes in my book. Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO). A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented soybean). A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused Coconut Oil product is another. Another important point is not what we
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Thanks Kirsteen I've just been having a look at them and they look good. I find Amazon is very expensive on a lot of things nowDee Sent from my iPad On 3 Mar 2015, at 23:38, Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dee, you can get a good selection of Green pastures cod liver oils from funkyraw.com. here in the UK. They're a good firm to deal with. Ive used them a lot. Their prices and postage are the most reasonable I've found. Cheers Kirsteen On 3 Mar 2015 08:52, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the feeling the postage will be prohibitive.Dee Sent from my iPad On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hi RaVen, You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional deficiencies for the moment. The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice': greenpasture.org They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil: http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/ If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and purity of their products. They are heroes in my book. Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO). A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented soybean). A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused Coconut Oil product is another. Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they must be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring, sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among all of the 'primitive' people that used grains. OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition. Victor On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Victor, I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is related to skin issues and teeth issues. I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?) What are the superfoods you mentioned about? RaVen
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I store it in plastic bottles with a 1 on the bottom. No problemsDee Sent from my iPad On 3 Mar 2015, at 16:19, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Last year I've tried a zapper but it didn't seem to do anything for me after 3 weeks of using it. I guess it being cheaply priced, it was probably not a real effective little machine as I hoped it'd be. Is Hulda Clark's zappers stronger? What are we supposed to feel with a zapper? Does it alkaline the blood? What does a zapper do exactly? About Green Pastures - I'm allergic to Cod Fish --- would that mean I'd be allergic to Cod fish's oil too? I'm tempted to try it. Truthfully when I ate cod fish in the past, I didn't notice any serious reactions to it. But doctor took a skin allergic test (poking needles and see how much my skin would puff up kind) --- cod fish and halibut fish and apples were the only things that swelled up. But when I ate apple or the fish, I felt fine. What gives? Should I trust these seemingly useless skin prick allergy test? The other foods and environmental things that bothers me immensely did not show up in that test. Last question - with the colloidal silver I made a few weeks ago --- should it be stored in glass bottles only (and tinted?) - there's one plastic bottle that I bought through Amazon of another C.S. brand -- I saved it and reused it to put my home made brew in it. Then I worried about plastic filtering into it. Should I store CS liquid in glass only? RaVen
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Hi Victor, I was actually talking about the fermented cod liver oil from green pasture.com. I myself have the Autozap and Zappicator which I believe is supposedly Hulda Clark.Dee Sent from my iPad On 3 Mar 2015, at 13:31, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dee, I have struggled myself with the idea of how to 'easily' get these devices. Dr. Beck was amazing, as he traveled around and showed people how to build these devices very cheaply, and he published all the schematics. However, that is still not practical for most of us. I have the devices from Sota Instruments in Canada, and I am not sure if they ship to the UK. And it is expensive in any case, even without shipping. There are various devices and plans published online, but I'm afraid that my opinion is not worth much concerning those. Others on this list know far more than I do. I have seen the 'Godzilla' zapper mentioned here and elsewhere previously, and of course the Hulda Clark device was just mentioned. But again, I am not sure if these are equivalent to the actual Beck devices. In late 2013 I actually purchased another set of devices from Sota, as they were the only devices that I was confident in. However, that speaks as much to my ignorance as my trust. I simply have not made enough effort to get comfortable with alternatives, and I am too lazy to build my own. The Sota devices have served me well, with my eight year old set still getting regular use, and a new set in NY being used by family members. As Nancy mentioned, the previous blood electrification unit was quite uncomfortable for most people; however, the newer unit is much better, though still cumbersome. I am curious about alternatives, so I will be educating myself further. I imagine that you can get a device for making ozonated water in the UK, and perhaps someone here has a recommendation. The Sota devices are good machines, and I recommend them, but I also appreciate that cost and logistics can be a deal breaker. I hope others have better answers for you. Victor On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the feeling the postage will be prohibitive.Dee Sent from my iPad On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hi RaVen, You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional deficiencies for the moment. The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice': greenpasture.org They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil: http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/ If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and purity of their products. They are heroes in my book. Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO). A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented soybean). A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused Coconut Oil product is another. Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they must be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring, sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among all of the 'primitive' people that used grains. OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition. Victor On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Victor, I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is related to skin issues and teeth issues. I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure enough I had a lot of
Re: CSBeck Protocol
Hi Last year I've tried a zapper but it didn't seem to do anything for me after 3 weeks of using it. I guess it being cheaply priced, it was probably not a real effective little machine as I hoped it'd be. Is Hulda Clark's zappers stronger? What are we supposed to feel with a zapper? Does it alkaline the blood? What does a zapper do exactly? About Green Pastures - I'm allergic to Cod Fish --- would that mean I'd be allergic to Cod fish's oil too? I'm tempted to try it. Truthfully when I ate cod fish in the past, I didn't notice any serious reactions to it. But doctor took a skin allergic test (poking needles and see how much my skin would puff up kind) --- cod fish and halibut fish and apples were the only things that swelled up. But when I ate apple or the fish, I felt fine. What gives? Should I trust these seemingly useless skin prick allergy test? The other foods and environmental things that bothers me immensely did not show up in that test. Last question - with the colloidal silver I made a few weeks ago --- should it be stored in glass bottles only (and tinted?) - there's one plastic bottle that I bought through Amazon of another C.S. brand -- I saved it and reused it to put my home made brew in it. Then I worried about plastic filtering into it. Should I store CS liquid in glass only? RaVen
Re: CSBeck Protocol
Hi Dee, I have struggled myself with the idea of how to 'easily' get these devices. Dr. Beck was amazing, as he traveled around and showed people how to build these devices very cheaply, and he published all the schematics. However, that is still not practical for most of us. I have the devices from Sota Instruments in Canada, and I am not sure if they ship to the UK. And it is expensive in any case, even without shipping. There are various devices and plans published online, but I'm afraid that my opinion is not worth much concerning those. Others on this list know far more than I do. I have seen the 'Godzilla' zapper mentioned here and elsewhere previously, and of course the Hulda Clark device was just mentioned. But again, I am not sure if these are equivalent to the actual Beck devices. In late 2013 I actually purchased another set of devices from Sota, as they were the only devices that I was confident in. However, that speaks as much to my ignorance as my trust. I simply have not made enough effort to get comfortable with alternatives, and I am too lazy to build my own. The Sota devices have served me well, with my eight year old set still getting regular use, and a new set in NY being used by family members. As Nancy mentioned, the previous blood electrification unit was quite uncomfortable for most people; however, the newer unit is much better, though still cumbersome. I am curious about alternatives, so I will be educating myself further. I imagine that you can get a device for making ozonated water in the UK, and perhaps someone here has a recommendation. The Sota devices are good machines, and I recommend them, but I also appreciate that cost and logistics can be a deal breaker. I hope others have better answers for you. Victor On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the feeling the postage will be prohibitive.Dee Sent from my iPad On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hi RaVen, You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional deficiencies for the moment. The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice': greenpasture.org They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil: http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/ If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and purity of their products. They are heroes in my book. Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO). A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented soybean). A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused Coconut Oil product is another. Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they must be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring, sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among all of the 'primitive' people that used grains. OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition. Victor On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Victor, I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is related to skin issues and teeth issues. I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?) What are the superfoods you mentioned about? RaVen
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Hi RaVen, How about trying kinesiology (muscle testing) or dousing with a pendulum to get the answers to what you are allergic to. It already looks like you aren't allergic to cod and apples, and are allergic to other things. Joe On 2015-03-03 11:19 AM, ASL raVen wrote: Hi Last year I've tried a zapper but it didn't seem to do anything for me after 3 weeks of using it. I guess it being cheaply priced, it was probably not a real effective little machine as I hoped it'd be. Is Hulda Clark's zappers stronger? What are we supposed to feel with a zapper? Does it alkaline the blood? What does a zapper do exactly? About Green Pastures - I'm allergic to Cod Fish --- would that mean I'd be allergic to Cod fish's oil too? I'm tempted to try it. Truthfully when I ate cod fish in the past, I didn't notice any serious reactions to it. But doctor took a skin allergic test (poking needles and see how much my skin would puff up kind) --- cod fish and halibut fish and apples were the only things that swelled up. But when I ate apple or the fish, I felt fine. What gives? Should I trust these seemingly useless skin prick allergy test? The other foods and environmental things that bothers me immensely did not show up in that test. Last question - with the colloidal silver I made a few weeks ago --- should it be stored in glass bottles only (and tinted?) - there's one plastic bottle that I bought through Amazon of another C.S. brand -- I saved it and reused it to put my home made brew in it. Then I worried about plastic filtering into it. Should I store CS liquid in glass only? RaVen -- Noam Chomsky said, “The general population doesn’t even know what’s happening, and it doesn’t even know that it doesn’t know.”
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Hi Victor, Radiation is a bitch on DNA and all essential minerals, except boron, which is the only mineral that absorbs radiation without disturbing protons and neutrons in cell nucleus. Boron alone does not become radioactive. If one has adequate boron and iodine levels, the body is not affected. Hillman Health Foods in Hillman, Michigan offers a fine package of organic selenium, iodine, and boron with a couple of vits and Mg mixed in called Grand Unified Mineral Complex. Works great. Fukushima fallout is registering radiation of over 200 cpm on our West Coast. What must radiation be in Japan?
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Hi Victor - now I know where you live, and your email was not too long because it contained so much information you have experienced which for me is very very useful so thanks and keep them coming I love to hear what others are doing Cheers Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 2 Mar 2015, at 20:31, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hi RaVen, You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional deficiencies for the moment. The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice': greenpasture.org They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil: http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/ If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and purity of their products. They are heroes in my book. Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO). A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented soybean). A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused Coconut Oil product is another. Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they must be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring, sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among all of the 'primitive' people that used grains. OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition. Victor On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Victor, I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is related to skin issues and teeth issues. I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?) What are the superfoods you mentioned about? RaVen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Dee, you can get a good selection of Green pastures cod liver oils from funkyraw.com. here in the UK. They're a good firm to deal with. Ive used them a lot. Their prices and postage are the most reasonable I've found. Cheers Kirsteen On 3 Mar 2015 08:52, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the feeling the postage will be prohibitive.Dee Sent from my iPad On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hi RaVen, You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional deficiencies for the moment. The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice': greenpasture.org They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil: http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/ If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and purity of their products. They are heroes in my book. Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO). A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented soybean). A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused Coconut Oil product is another. Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they must be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring, sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among all of the 'primitive' people that used grains. OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition. Victor On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Victor, I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is related to skin issues and teeth issues. I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?) What are the superfoods you mentioned about? RaVen
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Thanks Phil. I had actually been interested in selenium too, so I will take a look at that. In all honesty, with the way the winds blow, I worry more about all the pollution from China than I do about Fukushima. Tokyo has mostly clear blue skies, but I have seen them turn yellow during smog alerts. Thankfully, it is a very rare occurrence. Radiation and other contaminants are definitely an ever increasing problem that we must consider when managing our health. I'll be getting more familiar with boron. It actually brings back a bit of nostalgia for me, as I worked in a semiconductor lab years ago, where we used boron and phosphorous for doping the silicon :-) It is probably why I had an aversion to considering it for health purposes lol Victor On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Victor, Radiation is a bitch on DNA and all essential minerals, except boron, which is the only mineral that absorbs radiation without disturbing protons and neutrons in cell nucleus. Boron alone does not become radioactive. If one has adequate boron and iodine levels, the body is not affected. Hillman Health Foods in Hillman, Michigan offers a fine package of organic selenium, iodine, and boron with a couple of vits and Mg mixed in called Grand Unified Mineral Complex. Works great. Fukushima fallout is registering radiation of over 200 cpm on our West Coast. What must radiation be in Japan?
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Sorry Dee lol Yes, you can get the Green Pasture products from many distributors in the UK. The best way to find them is to search for 'Blue Ice Code Liver Oil UK' or similar with 'Blue Ice' in it. You will see many vendors. Or you can go straight to Amazon.co.uk and do the same search. You will see many products. These products have quite a foul taste for most people, which is why capsule options are popular. However, the oils are much more cost effective. It is helpful to read all the information on the Green Pasture website to get a good idea about what to expect. Victor On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Hi Victor, I was actually talking about the fermented cod liver oil from green pasture.com. I myself have the Autozap and Zappicator which I believe is supposedly Hulda Clark.Dee Sent from my iPad On 3 Mar 2015, at 13:31, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dee, I have struggled myself with the idea of how to 'easily' get these devices. Dr. Beck was amazing, as he traveled around and showed people how to build these devices very cheaply, and he published all the schematics. However, that is still not practical for most of us. I have the devices from Sota Instruments in Canada, and I am not sure if they ship to the UK. And it is expensive in any case, even without shipping. There are various devices and plans published online, but I'm afraid that my opinion is not worth much concerning those. Others on this list know far more than I do. I have seen the 'Godzilla' zapper mentioned here and elsewhere previously, and of course the Hulda Clark device was just mentioned. But again, I am not sure if these are equivalent to the actual Beck devices. In late 2013 I actually purchased another set of devices from Sota, as they were the only devices that I was confident in. However, that speaks as much to my ignorance as my trust. I simply have not made enough effort to get comfortable with alternatives, and I am too lazy to build my own. The Sota devices have served me well, with my eight year old set still getting regular use, and a new set in NY being used by family members. As Nancy mentioned, the previous blood electrification unit was quite uncomfortable for most people; however, the newer unit is much better, though still cumbersome. I am curious about alternatives, so I will be educating myself further. I imagine that you can get a device for making ozonated water in the UK, and perhaps someone here has a recommendation. The Sota devices are good machines, and I recommend them, but I also appreciate that cost and logistics can be a deal breaker. I hope others have better answers for you. Victor On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the feeling the postage will be prohibitive.Dee Sent from my iPad On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hi RaVen, You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional deficiencies for the moment. The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice': greenpasture.org They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil: http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/ If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and purity of their products. They are heroes in my book. Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO). A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented soybean). A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused Coconut Oil product is another. Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they must be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting,
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I use Boron (Borax) for arthritis. I find it quite effective. Recently, within the last month, I had a friend who is 66 yrs old who said his hand were so arthritic that he was having real problems doing his normal work. I recommended that he try the Borax. After 2 weeks he told me that his hands were 75% better. I think they will continue to get better over time with some Borax supplementation. Dan On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Phil, I have never used boron, but I would be curious to hear other's experiences. We add a little bentonite clay to our bread sometimes, or other dishes. We are slowly making it a more consistent part of our diet. We also just drink a glass of water with clay mixed in for a week at a time every now and then. From what I've read, clay is pretty good at detoxing radiation, among other things. I live in Tokyo, but I probably get more radiation from my trips to NY ;-) Victor Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:41 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: Victor ... Do you use Boron supplements much living in Japan? The Russians used lots of Boron in dealing with Chernobyl. Like you, I find parts of Beck Protocol very useful.
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Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the feeling the postage will be prohibitive.Dee Sent from my iPad On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hi RaVen, You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional deficiencies for the moment. The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice': greenpasture.org They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil: http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/ If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and purity of their products. They are heroes in my book. Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO). A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented soybean). A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused Coconut Oil product is another. Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they must be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring, sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among all of the 'primitive' people that used grains. OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition. Victor On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Victor, I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is related to skin issues and teeth issues. I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?) What are the superfoods you mentioned about? RaVen
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Thanks, Victor, I also have the Magnetic Pulser (MP). I use it on problem areas where there is any pain. I fell on the concrete floor of the garage recently and my left knee was swollen above the knee and over the ligaments on both sides below the kneecap. I had to limp and take stairs one at a time, bending only my good knee. I had a bad knee 6 years ago and it took 9 months to heal, part of the healing was taking advice from someone on the silverlist to take 2 Tbsp. of MSM a day, and part was becoming a vegetarian. But this time I used my MP on it several times a day, took the MSM, and also wore a Neodymium magnet, 1 diam. x 1/8 thick, putting it over the place with the most pain at the time, and sleeping with it as well. I've had very good results for several years using them over my knee and also hip joints, kills all pain in just a few days. Anyway, 3-4 weeks later, I am mostly pain-free but still wear the magnet a lot, and have my range of motion back, no more swelling. We haven't been very good at using it pulsing lymph nodes, it seems we tend to forget. Nancy On Monday, March 2, 2015 6:34 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Nancy. Your experience is very interesting to hear. I also had the same trouble with my device, which is quite old. My brother has a new model that is much better. But I never had experience with any other devices, so it was interesting to hear your account of the Hulda Clark zapper. I also do not know how the Hulda Clark device compares to the Beck design. But now I am curious to research it more. I would love to see what your blood looks like ;-) It sounds like the device is serving you very well. Victor On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Nancy Winiecki hemna...@yahoo.com wrote: I tried the Beck Zapper and found it to be difficult to use, frequently too dry or perhaps too little or too much salt so it reddened my skin some, or itched, or caused sore places, or tingled badly, so I bought a Hulda Clark type zapper off ebayhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Z4eX-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper-/161410476483?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0var=hash=item2594d069c3 that doesn't require water, has very comfortable adjustable straps that fit on each wrist, and 3 frequencies. I often sleep with it on as it helps my insomnia, and I can sleep on my back without turning and tossing. Since using it for a year or more every time my grandkids expose me to colds I may feel like I am fighting it some, but have not gotten any full-blown runny and stopped up nose, and I used to always get terrible sinus infections every time and be putting CS drops up my nose, heating pads, etc. but with the zapping I have not had ONE SINGLE sinus infection. I also suck zinc lozenges that don't have sugar. I don't know how to compare the Clark and Beck zappers for fighting cancer, hopefully it also does the job of cleaning the blood in that respect as well. Nancy On Sunday, March 1, 2015 7:26 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
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Hello again RaVen, A couple of more comments about foods. I nice dietary guide here: http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/dietary-guidelines/ And specific things we do in my house: 1. We make and drink kefir every day. In NY my family can get raw milk too, but that is not an option for me in Japan. 2. We make our own bread several times a week, incorporating healthier grains, like Einkorn, Spelt, etc. (The grains or flour should really be soaked to improve nutrition, but we are not yet perfect about this) 3. We make chocolate every week - cocoa powder, coconut oil, and maple syrup. Simple, healthy and delicious. It reduces our consumption of the processed chocolate and gets more coconut oil into our diet. 4. We make healthy oatmeal cookies every week. The oats are mixed with freshly ground spelt or einkorn, and soaked overnight in a coconut oil apple cider vinegar mixture. Adding some rye is helpful too, as soaking with this mix of grains greatly improves our nutrition absorption. (Soaking oats alone does not help much). 5. I eat oatmeal several times a week, again mixing it with spelt or einkorn, and soaking it overnight in water and apple cider vinegar or lemon juice. When I cook it, I add a generous amount of sea salt (Himalayan or Celtic) to my water, as well has a spoonful each of ghee and coconut oil. I add cinnamon and raisins (or chopped apple) to my oatmeal mix, dump it in the water and cook it for five minutes. 6. I have recently been making mayonnaise, using a blend of coconut oil and olive oil. Another small way to remove chemicals from our diet and incorporate healthy oils. 7. On occasion I will make tortillas, using the soaked/sprouted healthy grains and coconut oil. I would make these more often, but my family prefers other healthy breads. 8. Bacon and eggs, cooked in coconut oil or ghee and salted with sea salt is a healthy meal. Don't believe the cholesterol fears. Of course, get 'natural' bacon eggs. 9. French toast can be another healthy meal. Again cooked in the healthy oils, using sea salt, eggs, cinnamon, and of course homemade bread. 10. Raw veggies every day - carrots, celery, tomatoes, cucumbers, are delicious when dipped in a healthy miso mayo dip. Homemade mayo makes it even better. 11. Soups, stews, curries, etc. are loaded with veggies, and soup stocks from chicken carcass or other bones provide great nutrition. This is something we are not great at, as meat options are limited in Japan. We are always looking for delicious ways to improve our nutrition, but we are far from perfect. I think every family is different, as what is practical and delicious for one person may not be so for another. Grains are tricky, as they are the main culprit in blocking our nutrition absorption. However, they become a super food when processed correctly. In addition, the apple cider vinegar and lemon juice that is used for soaking is another healthy addition. One of the best blogs I know for guidance on grains is here: http://www.weedemandreap.com/guide-soaking-sprouting-grains/ That was probably too much information ;-) Victor On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Victor, I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is related to skin issues and teeth issues. I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?) What are the superfoods you mentioned about? RaVen
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Hi Nancy, I love how you are using your sleeping time for healing. I may have to look into those magnets. My family and I also have great experience with using the MP to aid healing. I love martial arts, and sometimes I tweak a shoulder or knee, so I feel that the pulsar is a life saver for me. I haven't had any chronic joint issues, despite the fact that I am still active and over fifty. MSM is something I started last year, after hearing about it repeatedly on this list and elsewhere. It seems to be a valuable supplement, and helps allergies for many people. Not sure if it will alleviate my allergies, but it is looking good so far, as the allergy season started here in Japan and I am ok so far. (I never had hay fever until about five years ago, and it has been pretty bad each year since it started). Thanks again for sharing. Victor On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Nancy Winiecki hemna...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks, Victor, I also have the Magnetic Pulser (MP). I use it on problem areas where there is any pain. I fell on the concrete floor of the garage recently and my left knee was swollen above the knee and over the ligaments on both sides below the kneecap. I had to limp and take stairs one at a time, bending only my good knee. I had a bad knee 6 years ago and it took 9 months to heal, part of the healing was taking advice from someone on the silverlist to take 2 Tbsp. of MSM a day, and part was becoming a vegetarian. But this time I used my MP on it several times a day, took the MSM, and also wore a Neodymium magnet, 1 diam. x 1/8 thick, putting it over the place with the most pain at the time, and sleeping with it as well. I've had very good results for several years using them over my knee and also hip joints, kills all pain in just a few days. Anyway, 3-4 weeks later, I am mostly pain-free but still wear the magnet a lot, and have my range of motion back, no more swelling. We haven't been very good at using it pulsing lymph nodes, it seems we tend to forget. Nancy On Monday, March 2, 2015 6:34 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Nancy. Your experience is very interesting to hear. I also had the same trouble with my device, which is quite old. My brother has a new model that is much better. But I never had experience with any other devices, so it was interesting to hear your account of the Hulda Clark zapper. I also do not know how the Hulda Clark device compares to the Beck design. But now I am curious to research it more. I would love to see what your blood looks like ;-) It sounds like the device is serving you very well. Victor On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Nancy Winiecki hemna...@yahoo.com wrote: I tried the Beck Zapper and found it to be difficult to use, frequently too dry or perhaps too little or too much salt so it reddened my skin some, or itched, or caused sore places, or tingled badly, so I bought a Hulda Clark type zapper off ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Z4eX-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper-/161410476483?pt= http://www.ebay.com/itm/Z4eX-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper-/161410476483?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0var=hash=item2594d069c3 LH_DefaultDomain_0var=hash=item2594d069c3 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Z4eX-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper-/161410476483?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0var=hash=item2594d069c3 that doesn't require water, has very comfortable adjustable straps that fit on each wrist, and 3 frequencies. I often sleep with it on as it helps my insomnia, and I can sleep on my back without turning and tossing. Since using it for a year or more every time my grandkids expose me to colds I may feel like I am fighting it some, but have not gotten any full-blown runny and stopped up nose, and I used to always get terrible sinus infections every time and be putting CS drops up my nose, heating pads, etc. but with the zapping I have not had ONE SINGLE sinus infection. I also suck zinc lozenges that don't have sugar. I don't know how to compare the Clark and Beck zappers for fighting cancer, hopefully it also does the job of cleaning the blood in that respect as well. Nancy On Sunday, March 1, 2015 7:26 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is
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Victor ... Do you use Boron supplements much living in Japan? The Russians used lots of Boron in dealing with Chernobyl. Like you, I find parts of Beck Protocol very useful.
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Hi RaVen, You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional deficiencies for the moment. The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice': greenpasture.org They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil: http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/ If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and purity of their products. They are heroes in my book. Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO). A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented soybean). A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused Coconut Oil product is another. Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they must be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring, sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among all of the 'primitive' people that used grains. OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition. Victor On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Victor, I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is related to skin issues and teeth issues. I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?) What are the superfoods you mentioned about? RaVen
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Hi Sandee, That is great! I should have mentioned - we can find a free online version of the 1st edition in several places; although it is not complete, so I think it is fantastic that you ordered the book. The later editions have a lot of valuable content added. Here is one online version that anyone can view for free: Free Online Version (1st edition): http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html It is a big book, written nearly a century ago, but it is oozing with ancient wisdom. It actually makes an excellent coffee table book, since it has many interesting photos. Victor On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:26 AM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote: Thanks for this one Victor, have ordered the book, so very true what you say about knowledge Wisdom - and where to go for same Cheers Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 2 Mar 2015, at 11:00, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Well said Uncle Ben. I couldn't agree more. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I think sharing all these small success stories helps each of us to add more tools to our toolbox. Dr. Weston A. Price is probably my biggest 'hero' in recent years, as his efforts to show the power of natural foods is unparalleled. From the quality of the soil, to the health of our teeth, and the heredity of bone structure, he showed the links, the mechanisms, and the essential nutrients necessary for good health. And he showed it all with solid scientific (and photographic) evidence - nearly a hundred years ago! And where did he find this invaluable information? Only among the 'savages' and 'primitive' peoples living in the most remote areas of the world. For all our modern knowledge we have not their wisdom. Victor On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:58 PM, cncsme...@aol.com wrote: Beck Protocol, Colloidal Silver, etc. There has never been a ''cure-all...unless you want to count our immune system.. And before you jump the gun I realize that none of us has the ''perfect immune system''.. That is virtually impossible in the climate of today's food supplies...and suppliers.. But with that goal in mind (keeping in mind that we are all terminal) one can do better than we are doing today which is quite a chore to maintain but There ARE things we can learn with an open mind. I had a pencil eraser size ''growth'' pop up on the side of my nose.. The doctor determined it was a ''wart'' and froze it. It turned black and fell offand was back within a week. Two more trips to the doctor with the same diagnosis and treatment...and result. Enough of this BS..especially when the medical conglomerate doctors belong to this day (they call these fifteen second nitrogen freezes surgeries and charged me accordingly) have no mercy on the working man.. I applied eucalyptus oil directly on it for a couple of days and within a week it was totally gone and that's been several years ago.. Another issue at a different time; a dry spot on my forearm itched so I scratched it. The irritation grew to the point that it was a boil like eruption.. Tried eucalyptus oil on itmade it worse.. Tried coconut oil (God's own sun screen) and the calming effect was almost immediate. Continued with that (it took three months) and had steady improvement with nary a return once it totally cleared up.. Point is; there is something from nature that works on everything but we have lost that knowledge and now it's man-made prescription pills etc., most with awful side effects.. We are our own worse enemy with what we eat, drink, and breathe..and we're still terminal.. Keep reading and searching and just maybe... Uncleben .. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Phil, I have never used boron, but I would be curious to hear other's experiences. We add a little bentonite clay to our bread sometimes, or other dishes. We are slowly making it a more consistent part of our diet. We also just drink a glass of water with clay mixed in for a week at a time every now and then. From what I've read, clay is pretty good at detoxing radiation, among other things. I live in Tokyo, but I probably get more radiation from my trips to NY ;-) Victor Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:41 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: Victor ... Do you use Boron supplements much living in Japan? The Russians used lots of Boron in dealing with Chernobyl. Like you, I find parts of Beck Protocol very useful.
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Thanks Nancy. Your experience is very interesting to hear. I also had the same trouble with my device, which is quite old. My brother has a new model that is much better. But I never had experience with any other devices, so it was interesting to hear your account of the Hulda Clark zapper. I also do not know how the Hulda Clark device compares to the Beck design. But now I am curious to research it more. I would love to see what your blood looks like ;-) It sounds like the device is serving you very well. Victor On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Nancy Winiecki hemna...@yahoo.com wrote: I tried the Beck Zapper and found it to be difficult to use, frequently too dry or perhaps too little or too much salt so it reddened my skin some, or itched, or caused sore places, or tingled badly, so I bought a Hulda Clark type zapper off ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Z4eX-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper-/161410476483?pt= http://www.ebay.com/itm/Z4eX-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper-/161410476483?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0var=hash=item2594d069c3 LH_DefaultDomain_0var=hash=item2594d069c3 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Z4eX-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper-/161410476483?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0var=hash=item2594d069c3 that doesn't require water, has very comfortable adjustable straps that fit on each wrist, and 3 frequencies. I often sleep with it on as it helps my insomnia, and I can sleep on my back without turning and tossing. Since using it for a year or more every time my grandkids expose me to colds I may feel like I am fighting it some, but have not gotten any full-blown runny and stopped up nose, and I used to always get terrible sinus infections every time and be putting CS drops up my nose, heating pads, etc. but with the zapping I have not had ONE SINGLE sinus infection. I also suck zinc lozenges that don't have sugar. I don't know how to compare the Clark and Beck zappers for fighting cancer, hopefully it also does the job of cleaning the blood in that respect as well. Nancy On Sunday, March 1, 2015 7:26 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
Re: CSBeck...
Well said Uncle Ben. I couldn't agree more. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I think sharing all these small success stories helps each of us to add more tools to our toolbox. Dr. Weston A. Price is probably my biggest 'hero' in recent years, as his efforts to show the power of natural foods is unparalleled. From the quality of the soil, to the health of our teeth, and the heredity of bone structure, he showed the links, the mechanisms, and the essential nutrients necessary for good health. And he showed it all with solid scientific (and photographic) evidence - nearly a hundred years ago! And where did he find this invaluable information? Only among the 'savages' and 'primitive' peoples living in the most remote areas of the world. For all our modern knowledge we have not their wisdom. Victor On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:58 PM, cncsme...@aol.com wrote: Beck Protocol, Colloidal Silver, etc. There has never been a ''cure-all...unless you want to count our immune system.. And before you jump the gun I realize that none of us has the ''perfect immune system''.. That is virtually impossible in the climate of today's food supplies...and suppliers.. But with that goal in mind (keeping in mind that we are all terminal) one can do better than we are doing today which is quite a chore to maintain but There ARE things we can learn with an open mind. I had a pencil eraser size ''growth'' pop up on the side of my nose.. The doctor determined it was a ''wart'' and froze it. It turned black and fell offand was back within a week. Two more trips to the doctor with the same diagnosis and treatment...and result. Enough of this BS..especially when the medical conglomerate doctors belong to this day (they call these fifteen second nitrogen freezes surgeries and charged me accordingly) have no mercy on the working man.. I applied eucalyptus oil directly on it for a couple of days and within a week it was totally gone and that's been several years ago.. Another issue at a different time; a dry spot on my forearm itched so I scratched it. The irritation grew to the point that it was a boil like eruption.. Tried eucalyptus oil on itmade it worse.. Tried coconut oil (God's own sun screen) and the calming effect was almost immediate. Continued with that (it took three months) and had steady improvement with nary a return once it totally cleared up.. Point is; there is something from nature that works on everything but we have lost that knowledge and now it's man-made prescription pills etc., most with awful side effects.. We are our own worse enemy with what we eat, drink, and breathe..and we're still terminal.. Keep reading and searching and just maybe... Uncleben ..
CSBeck...
Beck Protocol, Colloidal Silver, etc. There has never been a ''cure-all...unless you want to count our immune system.. And before you jump the gun I realize that none of us has the ''perfect immune system''.. That is virtually impossible in the climate of today's food supplies...and suppliers.. But with that goal in mind (keeping in mind that we are all terminal) one can do better than we are doing today which is quite a chore to maintain but There ARE things we can learn with an open mind. I had a pencil eraser size ''growth'' pop up on the side of my nose.. The doctor determined it was a ''wart'' and froze it. It turned black and fell offand was back within a week. Two more trips to the doctor with the same diagnosis and treatment...and result. Enough of this BS..especially when the medical conglomerate doctors belong to this day (they call these fifteen second nitrogen freezes surgeries and charged me accordingly) have no mercy on the working man.. I applied eucalyptus oil directly on it for a couple of days and within a week it was totally gone and that's been several years ago.. Another issue at a different time; a dry spot on my forearm itched so I scratched it. The irritation grew to the point that it was a boil like eruption.. Tried eucalyptus oil on itmade it worse.. Tried coconut oil (God's own sun screen) and the calming effect was almost immediate. Continued with that (it took three months) and had steady improvement with nary a return once it totally cleared up.. Point is; there is something from nature that works on everything but we have lost that knowledge and now it's man-made prescription pills etc., most with awful side effects.. We are our own worse enemy with what we eat, drink, and breathe..and we're still terminal.. Keep reading and searching and just maybe... Uncleben ..
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Hi Gail, Sorry about your CFS. I agree with you completely about needing a combination of things. I believe that no matter how effective CS or any protocol might be, it is easy to render them ineffective with overwhelming toxic intake or nutritional deficiencies - and sadly, most of us are probably a victim of both to some extent. And sometimes we are shooting at the wrong target... for example, I had a growth on my leg that I could not get rid of. About the size of a pencil eraser, I thought it was a wart at first. But trying wart removers did nothing but give me pain. Then I tried CS, and nothing happened. I finally tried the Beck Protocol, pulsing the spot directly. Still nothing. Finally, many years later, I had some trouble with my teeth. So I focused the pulser on my mouth during another round of the Beck Protocol, and to my surprise, the growth on my leg vanished. My conclusion: some problem in my mouth was feeding that growth/tumor in my leg. Research revealed that this is a common theory for cancer as well. About my teeth, CS and the Beck Protocol can stop the pain, but they cannot heal my teeth. Only proper nutrition can do that, and that is exactly what I experienced. Only when I discovered the guidance from Weston A. Price, was I able to heal my teeth. And that remains a recurring battle, as I am too lazy to maintain a perfect diet ;-) Although supplementing with some key superfoods works like magic. Hope you do eventually find a way to overcome that CFS. Victor On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: Victor, The Beck protocol has it's place, but it is not a cure all as is so often claimed. I have CFS and used the Beck protocol correctly and continually, but it was not a cure. I've noticed the lists that use to be so active have just about died out. It was a good run while it lasted, but, like I said, it's limited. I think it's great for some issues, just not all. btw, I also feel the same about CS. More often than not, it takes a combination of things to regain health, diet and supplements being at the forefront, imo. Gail On Sunday, March 1, 2015 8:26 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
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I tried the Beck Zapper and found it to be difficult to use, frequently too dry or perhaps too little or too much salt so it reddened my skin some, or itched, or caused sore places, or tingled badly, so I bought a Hulda Clark type zapper off ebayhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Z4eX-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper-/161410476483?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0var=hash=item2594d069c3 that doesn't require water, has very comfortable adjustable straps that fit on each wrist, and 3 frequencies. I often sleep with it on as it helps my insomnia, and I can sleep on my back without turning and tossing. Since using it for a year or more every time my grandkids expose me to colds I may feel like I am fighting it some, but have not gotten any full-blown runny and stopped up nose, and I used to always get terrible sinus infections every time and be putting CS drops up my nose, heating pads, etc. but with the zapping I have not had ONE SINGLE sinus infection. I also suck zinc lozenges that don't have sugar. I don't know how to compare the Clark and Beck zappers for fighting cancer, hopefully it also does the job of cleaning the blood in that respect as well. Nancy On Sunday, March 1, 2015 7:26 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
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Hi Victor, I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is related to skin issues and teeth issues. I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?) What are the superfoods you mentioned about? RaVen
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Thanks for this one Uncle Ben - unfortunately what you say is true, I for one know that I fall under the modern spell of instant cure, gratification etc., which is the bane of our existence Easy, simply does it every time not to mention research, patience and an open mind Take good care Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 2 Mar 2015, at 09:58, cncsme...@aol.com wrote: Beck Protocol, Colloidal Silver, etc. There has never been a ''cure-all...unless you want to count our immune system.. And before you jump the gun I realize that none of us has the ''perfect immune system''.. That is virtually impossible in the climate of today's food supplies...and suppliers.. But with that goal in mind (keeping in mind that we are all terminal) one can do better than we are doing today which is quite a chore to maintain but There ARE things we can learn with an open mind. I had a pencil eraser size ''growth'' pop up on the side of my nose.. The doctor determined it was a ''wart'' and froze it. It turned black and fell offand was back within a week. Two more trips to the doctor with the same diagnosis and treatment...and result. Enough of this BS..especially when the medical conglomerate doctors belong to this day (they call these fifteen second nitrogen freezes surgeries and charged me accordingly) have no mercy on the working man.. I applied eucalyptus oil directly on it for a couple of days and within a week it was totally gone and that's been several years ago.. Another issue at a different time; a dry spot on my forearm itched so I scratched it. The irritation grew to the point that it was a boil like eruption.. Tried eucalyptus oil on itmade it worse.. Tried coconut oil (God's own sun screen) and the calming effect was almost immediate. Continued with that (it took three months) and had steady improvement with nary a return once it totally cleared up.. Point is; there is something from nature that works on everything but we have lost that knowledge and now it's man-made prescription pills etc., most with awful side effects.. We are our own worse enemy with what we eat, drink, and breathe..and we're still terminal.. Keep reading and searching and just maybe... Uncleben .. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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The easy cures are also how the vulnerable get scammed. :( Gail On Monday, March 2, 2015 10:30 AM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote: Thanks for this one Uncle Ben - unfortunately what you say is true, I for one know that I fall under the modern spell of instant cure, gratification etc., which is the bane of our existence Easy, simply does it every time not to mention research, patience and an open mind Take good care Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 2 Mar 2015, at 09:58, cncsme...@aol.com wrote: Beck Protocol, Colloidal Silver, etc. There has never been a ''cure-all...unless you want to count our immune system.. And before you jump the gun I realize that none of us has the ''perfect immune system''.. That is virtually impossible in the climate of today's food supplies...and suppliers.. But with that goal in mind (keeping in mind that we are all terminal) one can do better than we are doing today which is quite a chore to maintain but There ARE things we can learn with an open mind. I had a pencil eraser size ''growth'' pop up on the side of my nose.. The doctor determined it was a ''wart'' and froze it. It turned black and fell offand was back within a week. Two more trips to the doctor with the same diagnosis and treatment...and result. Enough of this BS..especially when the medical conglomerate doctors belong to this day (they call these fifteen second nitrogen freezes surgeries and charged me accordingly) have no mercy on the working man.. I applied eucalyptus oil directly on it for a couple of days and within a week it was totally gone and that's been several years ago.. Another issue at a different time; a dry spot on my forearm itched so I scratched it. The irritation grew to the point that it was a boil like eruption.. Tried eucalyptus oil on itmade it worse.. Tried coconut oil (God's own sun screen) and the calming effect was almost immediate. Continued with that (it took three months) and had steady improvement with nary a return once it totally cleared up.. Point is; there is something from nature that works on everything but we have lost that knowledge and now it's man-made prescription pills etc., most with awful side effects.. We are our own worse enemy with what we eat, drink, and breathe..and we're still terminal.. Keep reading and searching and just maybe... Uncleben .. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks for this one Victor, have ordered the book, so very true what you say about knowledge Wisdom - and where to go for same Cheers Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 2 Mar 2015, at 11:00, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Well said Uncle Ben. I couldn't agree more. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I think sharing all these small success stories helps each of us to add more tools to our toolbox. Dr. Weston A. Price is probably my biggest 'hero' in recent years, as his efforts to show the power of natural foods is unparalleled. From the quality of the soil, to the health of our teeth, and the heredity of bone structure, he showed the links, the mechanisms, and the essential nutrients necessary for good health. And he showed it all with solid scientific (and photographic) evidence - nearly a hundred years ago! And where did he find this invaluable information? Only among the 'savages' and 'primitive' peoples living in the most remote areas of the world. For all our modern knowledge we have not their wisdom. Victor On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:58 PM, cncsme...@aol.com wrote: Beck Protocol, Colloidal Silver, etc. There has never been a ''cure-all...unless you want to count our immune system.. And before you jump the gun I realize that none of us has the ''perfect immune system''.. That is virtually impossible in the climate of today's food supplies...and suppliers.. But with that goal in mind (keeping in mind that we are all terminal) one can do better than we are doing today which is quite a chore to maintain but There ARE things we can learn with an open mind. I had a pencil eraser size ''growth'' pop up on the side of my nose.. The doctor determined it was a ''wart'' and froze it. It turned black and fell offand was back within a week. Two more trips to the doctor with the same diagnosis and treatment...and result. Enough of this BS..especially when the medical conglomerate doctors belong to this day (they call these fifteen second nitrogen freezes surgeries and charged me accordingly) have no mercy on the working man.. I applied eucalyptus oil directly on it for a couple of days and within a week it was totally gone and that's been several years ago.. Another issue at a different time; a dry spot on my forearm itched so I scratched it. The irritation grew to the point that it was a boil like eruption.. Tried eucalyptus oil on itmade it worse.. Tried coconut oil (God's own sun screen) and the calming effect was almost immediate. Continued with that (it took three months) and had steady improvement with nary a return once it totally cleared up.. Point is; there is something from nature that works on everything but we have lost that knowledge and now it's man-made prescription pills etc., most with awful side effects.. We are our own worse enemy with what we eat, drink, and breathe..and we're still terminal.. Keep reading and searching and just maybe... Uncleben .. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck Protocol
Victor, The Beck protocol has it's place, but it is not a cure all as is so often claimed. I have CFS and used the Beck protocol correctly and continually, but it was not a cure. I've noticed the lists that use to be so active have just about died out. It was a good run while it lasted, but, like I said, it's limited. I think it's great for some issues, just not all. btw, I also feel the same about CS. More often than not, it takes a combination of things to regain health, diet and supplements being at the forefront, imo. Gail On Sunday, March 1, 2015 8:26 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
CSBeck Protocol
Hello Everyone, Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies. In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the famed 'immortal' blood. CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I have seen and experienced its effects. I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent years video testimonials have been posted here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/ I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment. Victor
Re: CSBeck blood purifier
I pour the silver from the brewing container into the storing container and don¹t see any noticeable bits¹ anywhere. I do get grey electrodes but just wipe them off with a tissue. dee From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:59:59 +1100 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:59:59 -0700 Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N.
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No, you won't see anything in the solution if you transfer the solution immediately after brewing Dee, I'm referring to after the solution has been in storage for a while, if any settlement or sediment is observable over time in storage, or if there is what I would term a 'slick' or a coating, or 'stuff?' appear to be floating on the surface of the solution over time in storage. Maybe not, or maybe you've never looked closely or taken any notice. Just wondering that's all g. N. Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:34:49 +0100 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier From: d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Re: CSBeck blood purifier I pour the silver from the brewing container into the storing container and don’t see any noticeable ‘bits’ anywhere. I do get grey electrodes but just wipe them off with a tissue. dee From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:59:59 +1100 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:59:59 -0700 Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N.
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I do leave it in the brewing jar for some weeks usually Neville, sometimes it just stays in there depending whether or not I need to make some more. dee From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:03:58 +1100 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 05:03:58 -0700 No, you won't see anything in the solution if you transfer the solution immediately after brewing Dee, I'm referring to after the solution has been in storage for a while, if any settlement or sediment is observable over time in storage, or if there is what I would term a 'slick' or a coating, or 'stuff?' appear to be floating on the surface of the solution over time in storage. Maybe not, or maybe you've never looked closely or taken any notice. Just wondering that's all g. N. Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:34:49 +0100 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier From: d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Re: CSBeck blood purifier I pour the silver from the brewing container into the storing container and don¹t see any noticeable bits¹ anywhere. I do get grey electrodes but just wipe them off with a tissue. dee From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com http://one.redfox%40hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com http://silver-list%40eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com http://silver-list%40eskimo.com Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:59:59 +1100 To: silver-list@eskimo.com http://silver-list%40eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com http://silver-list%40eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com http://silver-list%40eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com http://silver-list%40eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:59:59 -0700 Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N.
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Neville, I've had some jars stored for a very long time and that is correct, no sediment noticeable to the naked eye anyway. The one exception is when I was using plastic water jugs to store the extra CS- those would have a few (very few) black specks on the bottom. Never noticed this in the glass. zoe From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 22:08 Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Decant...Pouring off liquid leaving some liquid behind which may have observable settlement or sediment in the bottom of the storage vessel. To all who replied...So, it would appear there is never any settlement observable in the bottom of the containers after being in storage for a while - interesting. Thanks for that everyone. N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 23:31:15 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com What do you mean by decant? I make it in quart canning jars and pour out what I need , and cap what is left. zoe From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 17:59 Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee
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Never, Neville!! MA From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:00:36 PM Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee
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I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don¹t get any dark oxides formingquite the reverse in fact. dee From: D B mothman...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:31:17 +0100 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:31:18 -0700 The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave
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Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee From: D B mothman...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:31:17 +0100 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:31:18 -0700 The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave
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Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee From: D B mothman...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:31:17 +0100 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:31:18 -0700 The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave
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Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee
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What do you mean by decant? I make it in quart canning jars and pour out what I need , and cap what is left. zoe From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 17:59 Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee
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No. Never but then I have always used distilled water. regards hg - Original Message - From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com Date: Thursday, October 11, 2012 5:02 pm Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee
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Decant...Pouring off liquid leaving some liquid behind which may have observable settlement or sediment in the bottom of the storage vessel. To all who replied...So, it would appear there is never any settlement observable in the bottom of the containers after being in storage for a while - interesting. Thanks for that everyone. N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 23:31:15 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com What do you mean by decant? I make it in quart canning jars and pour out what I need , and cap what is left.zoeFrom: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 17:59 Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee
Re: CSBeck blood purifier
The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:32 AM, HARSHA GODAVARI h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote: I am considering using this to make colloidal silver. I like the idea of reversing polarity because it will slow down a build_up of CS near one electrode and both electrodes (hopefully) wear evenly. Also I have one of these around and it will save a bit for the time being :-) Are there any cons ( pros) to this notion. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you. regards hg
Re: CSBeck blood purifier
Reversing polarity of the electrodes while making CS is an effective and widely used method of decreasing buildup of silver and oxides of silver on the electrodes. I have made thousands of gallons of CS, and I reverse every minute, on a two minute cycle. Reversing eliminates the dark oxides because the electrode which forms the oxide is exposed to monoatomic hydrogen during the next half cycle, and the hydrogen immediately reacts with the oxide reducing the silver oxide to silver. Also any silver powder that accumulates on an electrode, either by reduction of silver oxide, or by deposition of silver from the solution, goes back out on the next half cycle as well. The result is electrodes which stay amazingly clean and never need to be cleaned. I can typically make several thousand gallons of CS on a set of electrodes and have never ever had to clean them. Also I have never witnessed any silver oxide coming loose due to polarity switching. If any were to come loose it would be from the stirring of the water, not a polarity switch. Marshall On 10/10/2012 6:31 PM, D B wrote: The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:32 AM, HARSHA GODAVARI h.godav...@shaw.ca mailto:h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote: I am considering using this to make colloidal silver. I like the idea of reversing polarity because it will slow down a build_up of CS near one electrode and both electrodes (hopefully) wear evenly. Also I have one of these around and it will save a bit for the time being :-) Are there any cons ( pros) to this notion. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you. regards hg No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5322 - Release Date: 10/10/12
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... I second that, Marshall... hundreds of gallons of EIS using reverse polarity, producing nothing but a high quality product. ~Jason - Original Message - From: Marshall To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 15:44 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Reversing polarity of the electrodes while making CS is an effective and widely used method of decreasing buildup of silver and oxides of silver on the electrodes. I have made thousands of gallons of CS, and I reverse every minute, on a two minute cycle. Reversing eliminates the dark oxides because the electrode which forms the oxide is exposed to monoatomic hydrogen during the next half cycle, and the hydrogen immediately reacts with the oxide reducing the silver oxide to silver. Also any silver powder that accumulates on an electrode, either by reduction of silver oxide, or by deposition of silver from the solution, goes back out on the next half cycle as well. The result is electrodes which stay amazingly clean and never need to be cleaned. I can typically make several thousand gallons of CS on a set of electrodes and have never ever had to clean them. Also I have never witnessed any silver oxide coming loose due to polarity switching. If any were to come loose it would be from the stirring of the water, not a polarity switch. Marshall On 10/10/2012 6:31 PM, D B wrote: The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:32 AM, HARSHA GODAVARI h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote: I am considering using this to make colloidal silver. I like the idea of reversing polarity because it will slow down a build_up of CS near one electrode and both electrodes (hopefully) wear evenly. Also I have one of these around and it will save a bit for the time being :-) Are there any cons ( pros) to this notion. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you. regards hg No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5322 - Release Date: 10/10/12
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Thank you Marshall for clarifying the problem. When I used 3 (x9v) batteries to make my CS and was too lazy to stirr the solution I did get the black oxides. Two things happened, the batteries and my electrodes vanished some how ( I suspect some protector of the nation from 90 year old ladie's prosthetics and/or two pieces of silver wire :-) ) I have a Beck purifier thats not being used ( I have a vague notion that not using a useful item is a sin) I see no reason why it can't be used instead of my three, naked batteries. This Beck purifier also uses 3 x 9v batteries for its power source, only they are enclosed in a box . Nice to hear from you. regards hg - Original Message - From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:46 pm Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Reversing polarity of the electrodes while making CS is an effective and widely used method of decreasing buildup of silver and oxides of silver on the electrodes. I have made thousands of gallons of CS, and I reverse every minute, on a two minute cycle. Reversing eliminates the dark oxides because the electrode which forms the oxide is exposed to monoatomic hydrogen during the next half cycle, and the hydrogen immediately reacts with the oxide reducing the silver oxide to silver. Also any silver powder that accumulates on an electrode, either by reduction of silver oxide, or by deposition of silver from the solution, goes back out on the next half cycle as well. The result is electrodes which stay amazingly clean and never need to be cleaned. I can typically make several thousand gallons of CS on a set of electrodes and have never ever had to clean them. Also I have never witnessed any silver oxide coming loose due to polarity switching. If any were to come loose it would be from the stirring of the water, not a polarity switch. Marshall On 10/10/2012 6:31 PM, D B wrote: The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:32 AM, HARSHA GODAVARI h.godav...@shaw.ca mailto:h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote: I am considering using this to make colloidal silver. I like the idea of reversing polarity because it will slow down a build_up of CS near one electrode and both electrodes (hopefully) wear evenly. Also I have one of these around and it will save a bit for the time being :-) Are there any cons ( pros) to this notion. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you. regards hg No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5322 - Release Date: 10/10/12
RE: CSBeck blood purifier
I also won't entertain the idea of auto polarity reversal for the same reason Dave stated, but then I'm not a commercial enterprise. If I was selling the stuff, then I would have to consider that option due to production volumes and time. Something must go somewhere off those electrodes and the only place that 'something' can go is back into the water, however, it won't be immediately observable due to that polarity reversal switching back and forth. If they are not removed and cleaned at regular timed intervals to minimise that 'something' being dispersed in the water, then whatever comes off those electrodes will remain circulating in the water and end up at the bottom of the storage vessel after gravity has done its thing. @ Marshall...Do you ever decant or filter...Yes/No? N. Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:44:16 -0400 From: mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Reversing polarity of the electrodes while making CS is an effective and widely used method of decreasing buildup of silver and oxides of silver on the electrodes. I have made thousands of gallons of CS, and I reverse every minute, on a two minute cycle. Reversing eliminates the dark oxides because the electrode which forms the oxide is exposed to monoatomic hydrogen during the next half cycle, and the hydrogen immediately reacts with the oxide reducing the silver oxide to silver. Also any silver powder that accumulates on an electrode, either by reduction of silver oxide, or by deposition of silver from the solution, goes back out on the next half cycle as well. The result is electrodes which stay amazingly clean and never need to be cleaned. I can typically make several thousand gallons of CS on a set of electrodes and have never ever had to clean them. Also I have never witnessed any silver oxide coming loose due to polarity switching. If any were to come loose it would be from the stirring of the water, not a polarity switch. Marshall On 10/10/2012 6:31 PM, D B wrote: The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:32 AM, HARSHA GODAVARI h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote: I am considering using this to make colloidal silver. I like the idea of reversing polarity because it will slow down a build_up of CS near one electrode and both electrodes (hopefully) wear evenly. Also I have one of these around and it will save a bit for the time being :-) Are there any cons ( pros) to this notion. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you. regards hg No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5322 - Release Date: 10/10/12
Re: CSBeck blood purifier
I don't filter, but the system automatically decants since it pulls the water from the top. Marshall On 10/10/2012 11:31 PM, Neville Munn wrote: I also won't entertain the idea of auto polarity reversal for the same reason Dave stated, but then I'm not a commercial enterprise. If I was selling the stuff, then I would have to consider that option due to production volumes and time. Something must go somewhere off those electrodes and the only place that 'something' can go is back into the water, however, it won't be immediately observable due to that polarity reversal switching back and forth. If they are not removed and cleaned at regular timed intervals to minimise that 'something' being dispersed in the water, then whatever comes off those electrodes will remain circulating in the water and end up at the bottom of the storage vessel after gravity has done its thing. @ Marshall...Do you ever decant or filter...Yes/No? N. Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:44:16 -0400 From: mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Reversing polarity of the electrodes while making CS is an effective and widely used method of decreasing buildup of silver and oxides of silver on the electrodes. I have made thousands of gallons of CS, and I reverse every minute, on a two minute cycle. Reversing eliminates the dark oxides because the electrode which forms the oxide is exposed to monoatomic hydrogen during the next half cycle, and the hydrogen immediately reacts with the oxide reducing the silver oxide to silver. Also any silver powder that accumulates on an electrode, either by reduction of silver oxide, or by deposition of silver from the solution, goes back out on the next half cycle as well. The result is electrodes which stay amazingly clean and never need to be cleaned. I can typically make several thousand gallons of CS on a set of electrodes and have never ever had to clean them. Also I have never witnessed any silver oxide coming loose due to polarity switching. If any were to come loose it would be from the stirring of the water, not a polarity switch. Marshall On 10/10/2012 6:31 PM, D B wrote: The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:32 AM, HARSHA GODAVARI h.godav...@shaw.ca mailto:h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote: I am considering using this to make colloidal silver. I like the idea of reversing polarity because it will slow down a build_up of CS near one electrode and both electrodes (hopefully) wear evenly. Also I have one of these around and it will save a bit for the time being :-) Are there any cons ( pros) to this notion. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you. regards hg No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5322 - Release Date: 10/10/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5322 - Release Date: 10/10/12
CSBeck blood purifier
I am considering using this to make colloidal silver. I like the idea of reversing polarity because it will slow down a build_up of CS near one electrode and both electrodes (hopefully) wear evenly. Also I have one of these around and it will save a bit for the time being :-) Are there any cons ( pros) to this notion. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you. regards hg
Re: CSBeck zapper
I'm curious if anyone was able to identify any of these improved designs mentioned by Brooks? -Alan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.comwrote: The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, * there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert*. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
Me too please I have a friend in urgent need of kidney help - lost one due to surgical mishap removing a tumour and now the 2nd kidney is ailing + another tumour on the kidneyless adrenal :( - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:23 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support If you could send it to me I would appreciate it. Or why not just share it with the group? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Jared De la Torriente jarochoda...@hotmail.com wrote: joy,i read some literature about using silver hidrosol -- ionic silver to perform tratment of renal issue, they did it by spraying bout 3 5 times a day a ionic silver solution directly into the rectum. this clerared the simptoms in matter of days. ill happyly send all the literature i have on it if you like. just semd me a PV email. NAMASTE: --Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 06:56:19 +0200 From: 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support Does anyone know if there's a protocol that would be beneficial for renal regeneration? If only to clean the blood, I am looking now for a zapper - Beck or other. If someone has a device in working order and would like to donate it to my friend, please let me know. We do not have much money to spare as most of it is going towards supplements and diagnostics, we both live on fixed incomes which is making finding a cure rather challenging. If at possible, perhaps we can barter. I can record an angelic chant of 3 Hebrew Psalms of your choice or if you prefer to allow me to choose that for you based on Kabbalistic assessment. All recordings are done from the Holy Land and are geared individually to the individual and the intent is only for the higher good and transformation of darkness into light. If interested in this barter, please send me an email. Thank you very much,Joy --The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribeArchives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comList Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4796 - Release Date: 02/08/12
Re: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
Joy you may want to try taking zeolite, if you are not already. Zeolite has a great affinity for the kidneys. I did a lot of research into it a few years back and though some people have only gotten results when taking the expensive MLM product NCD (natural cellular defense) liquid zeolite, I know many who have been greatly helped by just taking the powdered zeolite. In fact, a 65 year old friend of mine told me that her doctor had done some tests on her and told her that her kidney function was down to only one third capacity. He said they would not put her on any medicine but that if it dropped any lower she'd have to go on dialysis! She was very worried. I told her about my research into zeolite and she decided to try the powder. She bought it on line. She did not like the taste of mixing it into any liquid so she wound up filling capsules with it. She took 6 capsules, twice a day, which worked out to one tablespoon twice a day. In one month's time she went back for more kidney tests and her doctor was astounded because her kidney function had gone up to 95%!! She continued to take the capsules for one more month and then she quit. This was 2 years ago and she's still fine. I will say that the zeolite has gone up in cost a great deal since she purchased hers over 2 years ago now, but still you get a lot for the money--able to take it for a long time before you run out, if you get a couple pounds. Don't let all the hype fool you as to 'my brand is better than any other brand'. Zeolite is zeolite. The only difference is in the fineness of the powder. Some grind very fine and others not as fine. That really doesn't make a lot of difference in effectiveness either, so get the cheapest you can get without buying chunks. Although--I knew one guy that lived in an area that sold pure zeolite cat litter in 20 pound bags. He would buy that and grind it himself in his blender and took that zeolite.It's all the same. You can put it into capsules as my friend did, or you can just stir some into liquid and drink it. Some people buy the super fine grade and just put a spoonful in their mouth and let it melt that way. You can buy liquid zeolite, which is zeolite dissolved in water. I have to say that I have known a couple people that said they tried the powdered zeolite and didn't get any results but bought any liquid zeo and saved their kidneys. Then I met a couple people that said they tried the powder without results, and regular liquid zeo without results, but when they tried the expensive NCD they saved their kidneys. So--it may be that you'd have to try a few brands, but I would start with the powdered. It works in, I'd say at least 90% of the cases. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Does anyone know if there's a protocol that would be beneficial for renal regeneration? happy.gif
RE: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
Hi Renee, Is the zeolite dissolved in water or suspended in it? It would make a difference to me. Thanks. PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:40 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support Joy you may want to try taking zeolite, if you are not already. Zeolite has a great affinity for the kidneys. I did a lot of research into it a few years back and though some people have only gotten results when taking the expensive MLM product NCD (natural cellular defense) liquid zeolite, I know many who have been greatly helped by just taking the powdered zeolite. In fact, a 65 year old friend of mine told me that her doctor had done some tests on her and told her that her kidney function was down to only one third capacity. He said they would not put her on any medicine but that if it dropped any lower she'd have to go on dialysis! She was very worried. I told her about my research into zeolite and she decided to try the powder. She bought it on line. She did not like the taste of mixing it into any liquid so she wound up filling capsules with it. She took 6 capsules, twice a day, which worked out to one tablespoon twice a day. In one month's time she went back for more kidney tests and her doctor was astounded because her kidney function had gone up to 95%!! She continued to take the capsules for one more month and then she quit. This was 2 years ago and she's still fine. I will say that the zeolite has gone up in cost a great deal since she purchased hers over 2 years ago now, but still you get a lot for the money--able to take it for a long time before you run out, if you get a couple pounds. Don't let all the hype fool you as to 'my brand is better than any other brand'. Zeolite is zeolite. The only difference is in the fineness of the powder. Some grind very fine and others not as fine. That really doesn't make a lot of difference in effectiveness either, so get the cheapest you can get without buying chunks. Although--I knew one guy that lived in an area that sold pure zeolite cat litter in 20 pound bags. He would buy that and grind it himself in his blender and took that zeolite.It's all the same. You can put it into capsules as my friend did, or you can just stir some into liquid and drink it. Some people buy the super fine grade and just put a spoonful in their mouth and let it melt that way. You can buy liquid zeolite, which is zeolite dissolved in water. I have to say that I have known a couple people that said they tried the powdered zeolite and didn't get any results but bought any liquid zeo and saved their kidneys. Then I met a couple people that said they tried the powder without results, and regular liquid zeo without results, but when they tried the expensive NCD they saved their kidneys. So--it may be that you'd have to try a few brands, but I would start with the powdered. It works in, I'd say at least 90% of the cases. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Does anyone know if there's a protocol that would be beneficial for renal regeneration? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4796 - Release Date: 02/08/12 image001.gif
RE: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
Beats the heck out of me. When it's 'home made' it is more like clay in the water--it mixes but there's residue on the bottom of the glass. I have not seen any other commercial liquid zeo but I have seen the liquid NCD zeo and it is perfectly clear. They claim a proprietary method of getting the zeo and water to meld. shrug The lady my friend and I bought from (who is no longer in the powdered business, having switched over to becoming an NCD distributor) said that she brushed her teeth with zeo and also would take a spoonfull in her mouth and let it just melt there. She had a great, super fine powder. That's the one we bought, though I mix mine in water. My friend didn't like the taste of it in water and didn't like the feel of it in her mouth just taking some off a spoon, so put it into caps. As I said--I know of 2 people that said they tried powder, then commercial liquid and neither worked, but when they took NCD it worked and saved their kidneys. My father was diabetic and though he did not have kidney problems (he had vision problems) I thought I'd put him on NCD based on their recommendations. But I never gave him anything without taking it myself first to see what it did. Since I am not ill I thought I'd be best off to take their 'jump start' protocol, which is one bottle--normally a month's supply--in just ten days. They said that everyone would see some type of result from this. I took the bottle in the 10 days and felt/saw absolutely nothing. So I never bothered giving it to my Dad. But each person is different and perhaps NCD just wasn't a fit for me. Thinking about it now I should have went ahead and tried it on Dad, but it was very expensive--too expensive for something I felt didn't work (for me). Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Hi Renee, Is the zeolite dissolved in water or suspended in it? It would make a difference to me.
RE: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
Thanks. PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support Beats the heck out of me. When it's 'home made' it is more like clay in the water--it mixes but there's residue on the bottom of the glass. I have not seen any other commercial liquid zeo but I have seen the liquid NCD zeo and it is perfectly clear. They claim a proprietary method of getting the zeo and water to meld. shrug The lady my friend and I bought from (who is no longer in the powdered business, having switched over to becoming an NCD distributor) said that she brushed her teeth with zeo and also would take a spoonfull in her mouth and let it just melt there. She had a great, super fine powder. That's the one we bought, though I mix mine in water. My friend didn't like the taste of it in water and didn't like the feel of it in her mouth just taking some off a spoon, so put it into caps. As I said--I know of 2 people that said they tried powder, then commercial liquid and neither worked, but when they took NCD it worked and saved their kidneys. My father was diabetic and though he did not have kidney problems (he had vision problems) I thought I'd put him on NCD based on their recommendations. But I never gave him anything without taking it myself first to see what it did. Since I am not ill I thought I'd be best off to take their 'jump start' protocol, which is one bottle--normally a month's supply--in just ten days. They said that everyone would see some type of result from this. I took the bottle in the 10 days and felt/saw absolutely nothing. So I never bothered giving it to my Dad. But each person is different and perhaps NCD just wasn't a fit for me. Thinking about it now I should have went ahead and tried it on Dad, but it was very expensive--too expensive for something I felt didn't work (for me). Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Hi Renee, Is the zeolite dissolved in water or suspended in it? It would make a difference to me. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4796 - Release Date: 02/08/12
CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
joy,i read some literature about using silver hidrosol -- ionic silver to perform tratment of renal issue, they did it by spraying bout 3 5 times a day a ionic silver solution directly into the rectum. this clerared the simptoms in matter of days. ill happyly send all the literature i have on it if you like. just semd me a PV email. NAMASTE: --Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 06:56:19 +0200 From: 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support Does anyone know if there's a protocol that would be beneficial for renal regeneration? If only to clean the blood, I am looking now for a zapper - Beck or other. If someone has a device in working order and would like to donate it to my friend, please let me know. We do not have much money to spare as most of it is going towards supplements and diagnostics, we both live on fixed incomes which is making finding a cure rather challenging. If at possible, perhaps we can barter. I can record an angelic chant of 3 Hebrew Psalms of your choice or if you prefer to allow me to choose that for you based on Kabbalistic assessment. All recordings are done from the Holy Land and are geared individually to the individual and the intent is only for the higher good and transformation of darkness into light. If interested in this barter, please send me an email. Thank you very much, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
If you could send it to me I would appreciate it. Or why not just share it with the group? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Jared De la Torriente jarochoda...@hotmail.com wrote: joy,i read some literature about using silver hidrosol -- ionic silver to perform tratment of renal issue, they did it by spraying bout 3 5 times a day a ionic silver solution directly into the rectum. this clerared the simptoms in matter of days. ill happyly send all the literature i have on it if you like. just semd me a PV email. NAMASTE: -- --Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 06:56:19 +0200 From: 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support Does anyone know if there's a protocol that would be beneficial for renal regeneration? If only to clean the blood, I am looking now for a zapper - Beck or other. If someone has a device in working order and would like to donate it to my friend, please let me know. We do not have much money to spare as most of it is going towards supplements and diagnostics, we both live on fixed incomes which is making finding a cure rather challenging. If at possible, perhaps we can barter. I can record an angelic chant of 3 Hebrew Psalms of your choice or if you prefer to allow me to choose that for you based on Kabbalistic assessment. All recordings are done from the Holy Land and are geared individually to the individual and the intent is only for the higher good and transformation of darkness into light. If interested in this barter, please send me an email. Thank you very much, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
website not working.maybe sold or incorrect -- From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Self care is never a selfish act – it is simply good stewardship of the only gift that I have.” Parker Palmer http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com
RE: CSBeck zapper
My fault, www.frex.com.au Sorry. PT -Original Message- From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper website not working.maybe sold or incorrect -- From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
They have a rife amplifier for sale and also a diagram that can be used by a sound or signal generater , looks like my next project. The ic will do frequencies to 25mhz flat curve! Impressive but most rife frequencies are usually in the audio range so I may use a regular opamp for now to test the concept A regular 741 chip and it's variants will do to 1mhz easily which is what's required, also available and cheap! Will build and see if it has enough voltage and current output to sense a decent tingle at least I tested a car audio amp I had originally bought for this purpose and it's output curve was awful so it wouldn't be a good idea to use it for this purpose since it could either shock you silly or become weak depending on the frequency. This is independent of what your own nerves are sensitive to. So I will stay away from the audio amp since I don't fancy modifying it to make it behave. I may actually use it as an audio amp instead ! Sent from my iPhone On 7 Feb 2012, at 19:52, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: My fault, www.frex.com.au Sorry. PT -Original Message- From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper website not working.maybe sold or incorrect -- From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck
RE: CSBeck zapper
It is my understanding that audio amps are inappropriate to do the job... but I'm no expert. Bil Green would be better equipped to answer your questions. PT -Original Message- From: asif nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper They have a rife amplifier for sale and also a diagram that can be used by a sound or signal generater , looks like my next project. The ic will do frequencies to 25mhz flat curve! Impressive but most rife frequencies are usually in the audio range so I may use a regular opamp for now to test the concept A regular 741 chip and it's variants will do to 1mhz easily which is what's required, also available and cheap! Will build and see if it has enough voltage and current output to sense a decent tingle at least I tested a car audio amp I had originally bought for this purpose and it's output curve was awful so it wouldn't be a good idea to use it for this purpose since it could either shock you silly or become weak depending on the frequency. This is independent of what your own nerves are sensitive to. So I will stay away from the audio amp since I don't fancy modifying it to make it behave. I may actually use it as an audio amp instead ! Sent from my iPhone On 7 Feb 2012, at 19:52, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: My fault, www.frex.com.au Sorry. PT -Original Message- From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper website not working.maybe sold or incorrect -- From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought
RE: CSBeck zapper
Sorry, Bil is on a different list... PT -Original Message- From: PTFerrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper It is my understanding that audio amps are inappropriate to do the job... but I'm no expert. Bil Green would be better equipped to answer your questions. PT -Original Message- From: asif nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper They have a rife amplifier for sale and also a diagram that can be used by a sound or signal generater , looks like my next project. The ic will do frequencies to 25mhz flat curve! Impressive but most rife frequencies are usually in the audio range so I may use a regular opamp for now to test the concept A regular 741 chip and it's variants will do to 1mhz easily which is what's required, also available and cheap! Will build and see if it has enough voltage and current output to sense a decent tingle at least I tested a car audio amp I had originally bought for this purpose and it's output curve was awful so it wouldn't be a good idea to use it for this purpose since it could either shock you silly or become weak depending on the frequency. This is independent of what your own nerves are sensitive to. So I will stay away from the audio amp since I don't fancy modifying it to make it behave. I may actually use it as an audio amp instead ! Sent from my iPhone On 7 Feb 2012, at 19:52, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: My fault, www.frex.com.au Sorry. PT -Original Message- From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper website not working.maybe sold or incorrect -- From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work
Re: CSBeck zapper
I will report my progress for the groups interest Sent from my iPhone On 7 Feb 2012, at 23:40, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Sorry, Bil is on a different list... PT -Original Message- From: PTFerrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper It is my understanding that audio amps are inappropriate to do the job... but I'm no expert. Bil Green would be better equipped to answer your questions. PT -Original Message- From: asif nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper They have a rife amplifier for sale and also a diagram that can be used by a sound or signal generater , looks like my next project. The ic will do frequencies to 25mhz flat curve! Impressive but most rife frequencies are usually in the audio range so I may use a regular opamp for now to test the concept A regular 741 chip and it's variants will do to 1mhz easily which is what's required, also available and cheap! Will build and see if it has enough voltage and current output to sense a decent tingle at least I tested a car audio amp I had originally bought for this purpose and it's output curve was awful so it wouldn't be a good idea to use it for this purpose since it could either shock you silly or become weak depending on the frequency. This is independent of what your own nerves are sensitive to. So I will stay away from the audio amp since I don't fancy modifying it to make it behave. I may actually use it as an audio amp instead ! Sent from my iPhone On 7 Feb 2012, at 19:52, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: My fault, www.frex.com.au Sorry. PT -Original Message- From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper website not working.maybe sold or incorrect -- From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v
CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
Does anyone know if there's a protocol that would be beneficial for renal regeneration? If only to clean the blood, I am looking now for a zapper - Beck or other. If someone has a device in working order and would like to donate it to my friend, please let me know. We do not have much money to spare as most of it is going towards supplements and diagnostics, we both live on fixed incomes which is making finding a cure rather challenging. If at possible, perhaps we can barter. I can record an angelic chant of 3 Hebrew Psalms of your choice or if you prefer to allow me to choose that for you based on Kabbalistic assessment. All recordings are done from the Holy Land and are geared individually to the individual and the intent is only for the higher good and transformation of darkness into light. If interested in this barter, please send me an email. Thank you very much, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support
There were a lot of good options in the previous thread on kidney failure if you ask me. Ubiquinol I think is the foremost. Better, but more expensive would be liposomal ubiquinol. Then Kibow Probiotics was another one. Sorry, I don't know any one-time-cost approaches for kidney failure however... On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:56 PM, 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know if there's a protocol that would be beneficial for renal regeneration? If only to clean the blood, I am looking now for a zapper - Beck or other. If someone has a device in working order and would like to donate it to my friend, please let me know. We do not have much money to spare as most of it is going towards supplements and diagnostics, we both live on fixed incomes which is making finding a cure rather challenging. If at possible, perhaps we can barter. I can record an angelic chant of 3 Hebrew Psalms of your choice or if you prefer to allow me to choose that for you based on Kabbalistic assessment. All recordings are done from the Holy Land and are geared individually to the individual and the intent is only for the higher good and transformation of darkness into light. If interested in this barter, please send me an email. Thank you very much, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-request@**eskimo.com silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com ?subject=**unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/**silver-list@eskimo.com/** maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-list@**eskimo.comsilver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
I made my own Zapper both the bob beck type and Hilda Clark type Sorry I cannot recommend places to purchase since commercial units quality vary too much as much as their claims, which is mostly why i made my to be sure of what I have. Sent from my iPhone On 6 Feb 2012, at 04:06, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Self care is never a selfish act – it is simply good stewardship of the only gift that I have.” Parker Palmer http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com www.dearjubilee.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
I have designs for both zappers should anyone require them.
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Feb 2012, at 04:28, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator
operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a
zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each
electrode.
I guess that is as clear as mud...
Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't
know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a
really fancy electronic device.
Dan
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
months at first and then less and less frequently.
So please tell us more about zappers . . .
thanks,
Joyce
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious
mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical
purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it
definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on
someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
with some DMSO.
Dan
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive
27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to
100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects
I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive
9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
neglected to use it.
I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
beleive that it could work.
Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it,
so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel
electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes..
any testimonies...???
thanks again.
--
From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has
been in our researches), however,
there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more
powerful in effect than is the original
device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using
zapper as the key word, will illicit
a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me
personally and I will attempt to offer
some useful guidance in your search.
Sincerely,
Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation.
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi group,
Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share
As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially
effective
Thanks
Sent from my iPhone
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Re: CSBeck zapper
They are sold on ebay for very reasonable prices. -Alan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.comwrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Self care is never a selfish act – it is simply good stewardship of the only gift that I have.” Parker Palmer http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com www.dearjubilee.com -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
RE: CSBeck zapper
Hi Asif,
I'd love to have those designs please.
Lisa
-Original Message-
From: asif nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
I have designs for both zappers should anyone require them.
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Feb 2012, at 04:28, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator
operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a
zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each
electrode.
I guess that is as clear as mud...
Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't
know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a
really fancy electronic device.
Dan
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
months at first and then less and less frequently.
So please tell us more about zappers . . .
thanks,
Joyce
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious
mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical
purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it
definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on
someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
with some DMSO.
Dan
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive
27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to
100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects
I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive
9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
neglected to use it.
I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
beleive that it could work.
Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it,
so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel
electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes..
any testimonies...???
thanks again.
--
From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has
been in our researches), however,
there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more
powerful in effect than is the original
device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using
zapper as the key word, will illicit
a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me
personally and I will attempt to offer
some useful guidance in your search.
Sincerely,
Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation.
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi group,
Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share
As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially
effective
Thanks
Sent from my iPhone
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RE: CSBeck zapper
Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Self care is never a selfish act – it is simply good stewardship of the only gift that I have.” Parker Palmer http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com www.dearjubilee.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4791 - Release Date: 02/05/12
Re: CSBeck zapper
I bought a 12 v car speaker amplifier to do this however I felt that the voltage amplitude wouldn't be high enough as it wouldn't go higher than its source power voltage. Also remember that the amplifier will not have a decent flat output curve and will be limited to 100 hz to around 20khz . I even got iPhone software to generate the frequencies for convenience . I recommend the iPhone 4 or similar generation iPod touch because the audio output is of a much better quality and better behaved at a wider range of frequencies than the others in the range. Now I just need some frequencies and a decent amp! On 6 Feb 2012, at 14:28, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List
RE: CSBeck zapper
As far as I understand it, a speaker amplifier is inappropriate for doing frequency work. Amplifiers for this purpose are available at www.frex.com.au and other places. The Frex website even has a do-it-yourself version for free. PT -Original Message- From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 12:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I bought a 12 v car speaker amplifier to do this however I felt that the voltage amplitude wouldn't be high enough as it wouldn't go higher than its source power voltage. Also remember that the amplifier will not have a decent flat output curve and will be limited to 100 hz to around 20khz . I even got iPhone software to generate the frequencies for convenience . I recommend the iPhone 4 or similar generation iPod touch because the audio output is of a much better quality and better behaved at a wider range of frequencies than the others in the range. Now I just need some frequencies and a decent amp! On 6 Feb 2012, at 14:28, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free software you can download. Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go. PT -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful
Re: CSBeck zapper
I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Self care is never a selfish act – it is simply good stewardship of the only gift that I have.” Parker Palmer http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com www.dearjubilee.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator operating at about 30KHz. This is the same as her old schematic for a zapper. I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each electrode. I guess that is as clear as mud... Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't know if it is any better or not. But much more expensive as it is a really fancy electronic device. Dan On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so. I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of months at first and then less and less frequently. So please tell us more about zappers . . . thanks, Joyce On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for shingles. The more longstanding the shingles episode was before zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months long) within a few weeks. My son had an episode of infectious mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to him. He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping. For all practical purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or need any period of extended rest, or anything like that. So, it definitely works on some things. I would not hesitate to use it on someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well, such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed with some DMSO. Dan On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Self care is never a selfish act – it is simply good stewardship of the only gift that I have.” Parker Palmer http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com www.dearjubilee.com
CSBeck zapper
Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck zapper
I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but neglected to use it. I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually beleive that it could work. Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it, so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes.. any testimonies...??? thanks again. -- From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been in our researches), however, there are...at present..several other---more recent designs; more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert. A brief survey of the Internet using zapper as the key word, will illicit a number of valid references. If you are unsuccessful email me personally and I will attempt to offer some useful guidance in your search. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi group, Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share As I want to use one on my mate with the boils if it's potentially effective Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbeck protocol success anyone?
what's the yahoo site? which rife machine does your friend use? I need to find real people with real success. georgia -Original Message- From: scl...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: gmetrop...@aol.com Sent: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 4:22 pm Subject: Re: CSbeck protocol success anyone? Lyme and mycoplasma are very tough to get rid of. There is a lyme group on yahoo which has good support and reports of what herbs/electronics etc has helped them most. Many of them are using Rife machines with a plasma tube made by Dan Tracy. These machines are much more powerful than the beck style zappers/magpulsers etc. 2 minutes of Rife treatment can cause a herx., very powerful. Colloidal silver is always a good supplement to be on with Lyme and mycoplasma. This is what I have heard from a friend with Lyme using the above. Sincerely Steve gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: = anyone ever heard of anyone having success with the beck protocol? I am wondering if it would work for chronic lyme and mycoplasma that has infected the connective tissues of the scalp causing chronic severe headaches,adhesions, muscle spasm from head down back and circulatory issues. Could this protocol address this problem. I have struggled for 8 years with these symptoms 24 hours and trying to raise my 6 children. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSbeck protocol success anyone?
anyone ever heard of anyone having success with the beck protocol? I am wondering if it would work for chronic lyme and mycoplasma that has infected the connective tissues of the scalp causing chronic severe headaches,adhesions, muscle spasm from head down back and circulatory issues. Could this protocol address this problem. I have struggled for 8 years with these symptoms 24 hours and trying to raise my 6 children. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbeck protocol success anyone?
Lyme and mycoplasma are very tough to get rid of. There is a lyme group on yahoo which has good support and reports of what herbs/electronics etc has helped them most. Many of them are using Rife machines with a plasma tube made by Dan Tracy. These machines are much more powerful than the beck style zappers/magpulsers etc. 2 minutes of Rife treatment can cause a herx., very powerful. Colloidal silver is always a good supplement to be on with Lyme and mycoplasma. This is what I have heard from a friend with Lyme using the above. Sincerely Steve gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: = anyone ever heard of anyone having success with the beck protocol? I am wondering if it would work for chronic lyme and mycoplasma that has infected the connective tissues of the scalp causing chronic severe headaches,adhesions, muscle spasm from head down back and circulatory issues. Could this protocol address this problem. I have struggled for 8 years with these symptoms 24 hours and trying to raise my 6 children. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbeck protocol success anyone?
My sister beat lyme using it after the doctors' protocols failed. Marshall gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: anyone ever heard of anyone having success with the beck protocol? I am wondering if it would work for chronic lyme and mycoplasma that has infected the connective tissues of the scalp causing chronic severe headaches,adhesions, muscle spasm from head down back and circulatory issues. Could this protocol address this problem. I have struggled for 8 years with these symptoms 24 hours and trying to raise my 6 children. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbeck protocol success anyone?
Persons wanting to follow the protocol can find the needed tools from Sota Instruments in Canada. The company has been in business for a long time, is reliable, and regularly improves products, offering an upgrade price to previous purchasers. Note that Sota can say virtually nothing about the uses of the products, and cannot even link to sites that provide information about the protocol. I think this amounts to suppression of information, but it's a complex legal issue, I suppose, one that LEF.org in the USA has been fighting for many years. On Thursday, Apr 2, 2009, at 05:30 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote: My sister beat lyme using it after the doctors' protocols failed. Marshall gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: anyone ever heard of anyone having success with the beck protocol? I am wondering if it would work for chronic lyme and mycoplasma that has infected the connective tissues of the scalp causing chronic severe headaches,adhesions, muscle spasm from head down back and circulatory issues. Could this protocol address this problem. I have struggled for 8 years with these symptoms 24 hours and trying to raise my 6 children. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBeck-Clark Pulsers -- How They Work!
Marshall, Thanks for taking the time -- a lucid explanation!! Signed: Douglas H Both the Beck and Clark zappers work. They both work by the same means in fact, but I prefer the Clark because it does not cause the electrophoration, and I believe I somewhat more effective due to the higher frequency. Here is how they both seem to work: 1. There is a fast transition of a pulse followed by a bias in the pulse. 2. The fast pulse contains a large number of frequencies (if you look at the forier transform of the leading edge). 3. Different DNA is reonant with different frequencies. 4. The energy of each frequency is divided among all the DNA of that is resonant with that frequency. 5. There is so much of the body's DNA that the power for it's resonant frequencies are essentially nil, thus the body's DNA does not break apart. 6. There is very little of the pathogen's DNA present, so each stran of it's DNA receives significant power, sufficient to cause the DNA to break apart. 7. When DNA breaks each end has an opposite charge, so normally the DNA will immediately be attracted back together and rejoin with no harm caused to the structure the DNA is part of. 8. Both the zapper designs provide that a bias is present (the Clark an average bias continuously, and the Beck on a bias for about 1/100 of a second), which causes the broken oppositely charged ends to be attracted into opposite directions, so that they are unable to find each other and thus the break becomes permanent. 9. The broken DNA kills the virus or cell that the DNA is part of, or at least makes it so it cannot reproduce. The requirement for 1/100 second or more bias to be applied to seperate the ends is why the Clark Zapper MUST be unipolar pulses, and not bipolar, and why when using bipolar pulses like the Beck design, the pulses must be no more than about 100 Htz. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbeck and braces question
I have 2 unrelated questions. First is if you are aware of any one's success with chronic latent lyme and the beck protocol? After years of searching this I have yet to find anyone. It hit my scalp muscle causing burning,fibrosis,edema,crunching from head to back coupled with circulatory and heart issues. Putting the machines on the head I'm told is risky. I'll let our members with such experience speak for themselves. Yes, I'd say that you have to be sure you know what you're doing before using any electromedicine device, particularly above the neck, or such that current or voltage is applied across the torso. The 2nd question is what you decided on braces for your child. Nickel.aluminum,titanium,plastic? Pulling teeth for space,ceph and pan X-rays etc. I have 2 teens in need of work and would like to know what your consnensus was in your search. If you prefer to e-mail privately my adress is gmetrop...@aol.com We're getting a couple of her cavities filled first. (Not amalgam.) I'm going to try to find a orthodontist anywhere in the region that will do plastic brackets with titanium wires, which I'm told is the least likely to cause her harm. Don't know if I'll find anybody. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSbeck and braces question
Mike, I have 2 unrelated questions. First is if you are aware of any one's success with chronic latent lyme and the beck protocol? After years of searching this I have yet to find anyone. It hit my scalp muscle causing burning,fibrosis,edema,crunching from head to back coupled with circulatory and heart issues. Putting the machines on the head I'm told is risky. The 2nd question is what you decided on braces for your child. Nickel.aluminum,titanium,plastic? Pulling teeth for space,ceph and pan X-rays etc. I have 2 teens in need of work and would like to know what your consnensus was in your search. If you prefer to e-mail privately my adress is gmetrop...@aol.com
CSBeck cd
I purchased a silver maker from V and with it came the Beck cd and it is packed with info...deb
Re: CSBeck cd
Please, how do I find V? I have the SOTA gear, but would like to review this CD to become better educated Linda Deborah Gerard devorah...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I purchased a silver maker from V and with it came the Beck cd and it is packed with info...deb
Re: CSBeck protocol?
Excellent, Ian. I'll look it over more closely soon. It looks like just the kind of site I want. Be well, Mike D. Hello: www.sharinghealth.com is a comprehensive site on the beck protocol. Ian - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Is there any single web site that discusses the 4 step Beck protocol in reasonable depth, that would be a worthwhile referral for somebody wanting to get familiar with it? A book for sale? Anything? [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBeck protocol?
Hello: www.sharinghealth.com is a comprehensive site on the beck protocol. Ian - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:38 PM Subject: CSBeck protocol? Hi folks, Is there any single web site that discusses the 4 step Beck protocol in reasonable depth, that would be a worthwhile referral for somebody wanting to get familiar with it? A book for sale? Anything? Thanks, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBeck protocol?
Thanks Richard. I need to do that. But I also wanted an online source I could refer somebody to. Be well, Mike D. Hi Mike, V offers a FREE BECK Papers CD that is worth it's weight in gold! Drop V a note and I'll bet your questions are easily, clearly answered. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBeck protocol?
Hi Mike, V offers a FREE BECK Papers CD that is worth it's weight in gold! Drop V a note and I'll bet your questions are easily, clearly answered. Thank you for making this EXCELLENT Site available for us seekers and for attracting so many generous, knowledgeable Experts who Share. Sincerely, Richard Harris, 58 yr FLPharmacist -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 12:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck protocol? Excellent, Ian. I'll look it over more closely soon. It looks like just the kind of site I want. Be well, Mike D. Hello: www.sharinghealth.com is a comprehensive site on the beck protocol. Ian - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Is there any single web site that discusses the 4 step Beck protocol in reasonable depth, that would be a worthwhile referral for somebody wanting to get familiar with it? A book for sale? Anything? [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBeck protocol?
Mike, have you received my package? If so .. wot do you think. I tried your other address no luck. Sorry. elle From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBeck protocol? Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 18:36:47 -5 Thanks Richard. I need to do that. But I also wanted an online source I could refer somebody to. Be well, Mike D. Hi Mike, V offers a FREE BECK Papers CD that is worth it's weight in gold! Drop V a note and I'll bet your questions are easily, clearly answered. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Check out the latest video @ http://xtra.co.nz/streaming
Re: CSBeck Protocol
I have never noticed that sunlight or air damages CS. [made with silver and water only] I have several samples that have been sitting on a sunny windowsill for years and they all appear to be still as good as the day after they were made. Hydrogen sulphide and other pollutants in the air could have an effect. I 'nuked' a batch to see what would happen. So far as I could tell, it just boiled. I used to mix CS with wet cat food to alleviate hair loss and skin insults from flea allergy...mixed and fed immediately...and that worked pretty good. [Cat died at 17 yrs old..no more bald spots or weeping bumps] Search up the 3 ex marines and the rotten hamburger story in the archives. Cooking with CS at least does a job on food, if not the eater directly. Ode At 04:00 PM 8/18/2005 -0700, you wrote: I might add the V who is in this group sells the cs maker...includes a cd with all kinds of info on Beck. I didn't realize you could cook with cs does anything damage cs besides sunlight and air? Thanks everyone for the excellent flow of information to the hungry minds:)...deb No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12 - Release Date: 8/17/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12 - Release Date: 8/18/2005
RE: CSBeck Protocol
Hi! How do I get information about this V and her CS making machine? Thanks for all your informative messages. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@sbcglobal.netReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: CSBeck ProtocolDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:00:30 -0700 (PDT) I might add the "V" who is in this group sells the cs maker...includes a cd with all kinds of info on Beck. I didn't realize you could cook with cs does anything damage cs besides sunlight and air? Thanks everyone for the excellent flow of information to the hungry minds:)...deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
RE: CSBeck protocol?
Hi Mike, V gives a FREE BECK CD with each order and it's worth it's weight in gold in my opinion. Has much valuable BECK info on it. Sincely, ___ Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:44 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBeck protocol? Hi folks, Is there any single web site that discusses the 4 step Beck protocol in reasonable depth, that would be a worthwhile referral for somebody wanting to get familiar with it? A book for sale? Anything? Thanks, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
