Re: [313] see what cha think

2002-03-01 Thread Maxim Sullivan
Also.. started this today. A lot of work needed. some nice bits? www.evtacon.co.uk/sounds/lapsoop.mp3 cheers Max - Original Message - From: Brian 'balistic' Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:06 PM

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread james bucknell
i have no argument with the general claim that there are white imitators profiting on the backs of black inovators. but i don't think it really applies that much to sasha/digweed. there reference points aren't chicago, new york or detroit. rather the music they play-trance/progressive-is

RE: [313] the kings of pitch slides

2002-03-01 Thread Pryor, Ryan N
#1. Juan Atkins for sure 1. Eddie Fowlkes 2. Carl Craig 3. Lee Norris 4. .. hmmm, any tips? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[313] cheez

2002-03-01 Thread philip
as far as 313 goes i find some of carl craig's older tracks to be slighty whiffy especially in the string pad parts tho in his hands he gets away with it cos the cheesiness is er let's say tempered with a charming kind of naivety / optimism that we know and love. there was a really good funny

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Beau Burke
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, laura gavoor wrote: You don't hafta be a reactionary, but certainly DO NOT criticize those of us who have undertaken a mission to break those chains and garner the success that we all rightly deserve that HAS BEEN PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN to come with no stress, no

Re: [313] This Is How You Get To Be The #1 Club In America...

2002-03-01 Thread diana potts
oh...what the heck... I don't understand why everyone is so surprised to see Motor behind this. Someone mentioned that Motor brings in diverse acts and used the example of booking such acts as Matthew Herbert. Ummm..do you think that just because Herbert is a bit more indie-techno he doesn't

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread yussel
are you sure its not just because Juan has (other) issues that might be holding him back? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread yussel
or maybe Moby just produced a 'pop' album with dance tendancies that got really popular because it had a bit of everything. then he made videos and toured his ass off for two years. while juan (i'm not picking on him- just using your example) doesn't make half his gigs and has been content to put

Re: [313] This Is How You Get To Be The #1 Club In America...

2002-03-01 Thread yussel
i always recall motor having silver shirted people. in fact, motor started out mainstream. the mythical idea that motor 'sold-out' is a joke. motor was always a mainstream portal into electronic music. i remember one night (Nov 1999) when Black Nation records party did over 1000 ppl. THERE HAS

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread james bond
word, girl! - Original Message - From: laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:17 PM Subject: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!! I wish to relate two stories about the UK djs in

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread laura gavoor
I think then...based on your own parameters. your argument is null and void given the top selling artists of all time are 90% black: Mariah Carey, Michael and Janet Jackson...Dr. Dre/Eminempick up Billboard mag for the latest updates, but I assure you my arguement is a sound one.

[313] FA ebay

2002-03-01 Thread Mxyzptlk
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Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: Beau Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!! When it comes to executives of any type, it's never really been about the race. It's always been

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Fred Giannelli
I think the more disappointing thing re: Motor is that they are booking John Debo from Boston on March 2nd. This guy is the most unprofessional little twirp with a little Ceaser complex that I have ever dealt with in my entire career. And I've dealt with a bunch of strange ones, ie. Genesis

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Dan Sicko
Speaking to the Why SD and not Juan? issue directly, I'd just like to offer up the strange infatuation the US media holds for UK pop culture exports (I know this term is a bit of the large blanket variety) ... I think often times a movement seems that much more legitimate to the US (and I

Re: [313] the kings of pitch slides

2002-03-01 Thread glyn
At 28-2-2002 -0700 15:06, you wrote: I've got a major soft spot for pitch slides. in the neverending story of top fives.. 1. Eddie Fowlkes 2. Carl Craig 3. Lee Norris 4. .. derrick may? claude young on impolite to refuse? glyn

[313] anything happening in Toronto?

2002-03-01 Thread carlos h
Hi. I'm going to be in Toronto this weekend and wondered if there are any 313-related events that anyone might know about. Please reply privately. Thanks, carlos - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Beau Burke
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, laura gavoor wrote: I think then...based on your own parameters. your argument is null and void given the top selling artists of all time are 90% black: Mariah Carey, Michael and Janet Jackson...Dr. Dre/Eminempick up Billboard mag for the latest updates, but I

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Beau Burke
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Phonopsia wrote: When it comes to executives of any type, it's never really been about the race. It's always been about the money. Those people aren't stupid rednecks. They're deliberately evil. Instead of educating ignorant white america, they make billions

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread jkessler
Not to detract from your argument, but to cite a relevant exception to that status quo: Deep Dish (Ali and Sharam) are an example, at least as far as dance music is concerned, of Arab/Muslim-Americans who are successful and respected in many musical circles. Incidentally, they won a Grammy

[313] Submerge

2002-03-01 Thread Pryor, Ryan N
an email I received from Submerge ATTN SUBMERGE MAILING LIST CUSTOMERS: SUBMERGE WILL BE RELAUNCHING IT'S SITE TOMORROW AT 12:00 P.M. SO MAKE SURE YOU CHECK IT OUT! Here's the 411 on the new releases UR-3000 Inspiration produced by Mad Mike Los Hermanos featuring dj Rolando LH-1 Birth of

RE: [313] IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Odeluga, Ken
'Just shut up about this'!! We have evolved people!! I'm almost crying with laughter! -Original Message- From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:35 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] IT'S ABOUT TIME!!! Finally Detroit will be privy to

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread laura gavoor
Colonial mentality still exists here, but has been amplified incredibly by the literacy problem which gives even the dullest wit from England a gross advantage. It's amazing how they think they know more about our country and our country's music than we do, because they've read it in a book

Re: [313] the kings of pitch slides

2002-03-01 Thread james boylan
Forgive my ignorance, but what is a pitch slide? From: tom churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] the kings of pitch slides Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:18:18 + in the neverending story of top fives.. 1. Eddie Fowlkes 2. Carl Craig

RE: [313] the kings of pitch slides

2002-03-01 Thread Gwendal Cobert
thanks for asking ... ;-) Ignorant Gwendal Forgive my ignorance, but what is a pitch slide? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [313] the kings of pitch slides

2002-03-01 Thread Pond, Quest
I think he is referring to Portamento or Glide which means when you play 2 notes or chords after each other. Instead of hearing two distinct sounds the pitch 'glides' (either up or down) from the original pitch to the new one at a rate specified by the amount of portamento set. A similar sound can

Re: [313] What Is Cheese?

2002-03-01 Thread Jason Brunton
He, he, but saying a DJ is playing cheesy tracks is actually cheesy to me! Some of those BS tracks would be soulful and deep to someone else. It's very subjective! :) Actually in Scotland it is also used as a term of derision: shut it ya cheese-heid (cheese-heid: cheese-head- the heid is

Re: [313] the kings of pitch slides

2002-03-01 Thread Jason Brunton
At 28-2-2002 -0700 15:06, you wrote: I've got a major soft spot for pitch slides. in the neverending story of top fives.. 1. Eddie Fowlkes 2. Carl Craig 3. Lee Norris 4. .. hmmm, any tips? 2001- Never Ending Cycle (EevoLute)

Re: [313] the kings of pitch slides

2002-03-01 Thread marsel
jeff mills do them sometimes as well, for a very good example check shop's nitwit whoo-whii-hooo At 1-3-2002 +0100 10:43, you wrote: At 28-2-2002 -0700 15:06, you wrote: I've got a major soft spot for pitch slides. in the neverending story of top fives.. 1. Eddie Fowlkes 2. Carl Craig

[313] Fwd: SUBMERGE INFO

2002-03-01 Thread - BT -
Just got this - clears up a couple of the questions from yesterday Cheers BT ATTN SUBMERGE MAILING LIST CUSTOMERS: SUBMERGE WILL BE RELAUNCHING IT'S SITE TOMORROW AT 12:00 P.M. SO MAKE SURE YOU CHECK IT OUT! Here's the 411 on the new releases UR-3000 Inspiration produced by Mad Mike

[313] TT fun.... RE: (313) IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Wibo.Lammerts
I will throw down a set of fade-in techno on 6 decks. Any good tips on fade in tracks are very much appreciated. Also, if someone could tell me what the best technique is to fade in tracks myself, it has come to my attention that fade ins are not easy to accomplish so any help is appreciated also.

[313] track id?

2002-03-01 Thread RC
from the same set ryan mentioned a week or so ago: http://deephousepage.com/robertowens1985-jamie.ram right at the end the 30 min. minute mark mixed into mainline. cool percussion cool guitar lick, amazing bassline , really deep house male vocal voice saying k-bear or something similar over

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Tim Maughan
on 28/2/02 11:17 pm, laura gavoor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These type Brit-fad faggots ease off the homophobic language. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread JL Jones
Why am I not surprised to see that comment??? I hate to break it to people, but the race card isn't a used up excuse - its that the majority want to ignore and not talk about stuff when dealing with race issues... it still goes on, more in the background on a subtle level... This is not a

[313] old school?

2002-03-01 Thread RC
so I went and saw Derrick May dj here in sydney a coupla nights ago. I thought it was so so. (any syndeysiders who attended and disagree please jump in - it could have just been me) i think for a dj you need one of two things to set u apart from the crowd - either the cool records you have that

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread diana potts
Exactly. Those executives are letting racism, sexism, and poor taste drive the machine. just to swerve this topic a bit more off road- I'll come at from where I'm most now, around kids. Where the machine starts to influence at its earliest. From a music standpoint, I've noticed that the kids

RE: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread John Bush
While money may be the easiest problem to shake your fist at, the marketing forces that determine the economics are guided by history - a history of bigotry and conservativism that refuses to acredit African-Amercians with anything outside of popular stereotypes. Don't forget hillbillies!

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet
Seconded! I was thinking of writing a full response to the post, some of which I thought was accurate and some of which I thought was way off target. Then I saw this. If you're going to casually toss language like this around, Laura, don't expect me to give a damn what you think. These type

RE: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Hmmm. The homophobic language is much more than regretable, but how does that invalidate what she's saying? -Original Message- From: Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:20 PM To: Tim Maughan; laura gavoor; 313 mailing list Subject: Re: [313]

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread RC
i agree. most of laura's words were spot on.why let a tiny, inconsequential phrase nullify all the excellent points she made - shouldn't you make some allowances for cultural differences between Laura's local communication styles and yours. There's no doubt she is passionate about what she is

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread The Deliverator
I was trying to find the words to express these exact thoughts below. Thanks for doing it for me :-) jim http://www.assasins.net We can talk about the machine and how it effects us until we are blue. I think it's obvious that we know who the demons are here..it's just a matter if you make it

RE: [313] old school?

2002-03-01 Thread Jones, George
There are still DJ's that mix up different types of music in a manner you describe. It's getting rarer to see someone like this, but it still happens (insert shameless plug for myself!). I think that DJ's have gotten themselves stuck in this I will only play [X thpe of music] and if you're coming

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Tim Maughan
I'm not saying that i disagree with the arguements expressed, just the language. It'd be interesting to see if people reacted the same if someone started using the n word round here, though. on 1/3/02 1:57 pm, RC at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i agree. most of laura's words were spot on.why

RE: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Odeluga, Ken
If people reacted similarly to the use of the so-called 'n' word they'd only be human, like youself and Tom Magic Feet, but again would what Laura Gavoor said be nullified voided by that reaction? ... But this is a distraction from the main point -Original Message- From: Tim

RE: [313] This Is How You Get To Be The #1 Club In America...

2002-03-01 Thread Altitude
Well said D. Motor is a business, not a non-profit organization to save techno. When they pay out 10 grand to bring in a big name techno DJ and the club is half empty they eat it HARD. The bottom line is trance/progressive/whatever is big right now in clubs and despite the fact I think it is

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread laura gavoor
Spot on, Diana. It just so happens that I must deal with the machine nearly on a daily basis. As our business has grown up considerably during that period of time. Whether or not the people I do business with represent the machine or are more concerned with higher ideals and THEN have the

[313] Carl Craig/Mike Clark/DJ Minx - Thursday 3/7 @ the Real Detroit 20/20 Awards

2002-03-01 Thread keleigh casper
Real Detroit and Submerge present the: Real Detroit 20/20 Awards March 7, 2002 Porter St. Station 1400 Porter St. Detroit hosted by Mixworks featuring: DJ Minx - WOW Detroit Mike Clark - Planet E Detroit Carl Craig - Planet E Detroit with a casual intermission to recognize the recipients of

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Tim Maughan
on 1/3/02 3:01 pm, laura gavoor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elton John i bet he wouldn't have liked you using the word faggot either. sorry, that was meant in good humour. i couldn't resist it;) - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

[313] Paging Dan sicko

2002-03-01 Thread Jwan Allen
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RE: [313] the kings of pitch slides

2002-03-01 Thread Holly MacDonald-Korth
was it green velvet that put out portamento tracks? i can't remember... and i'm away from my records. -Original Message- From: Pond, Quest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:41 AM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] the kings of pitch slides I think he is

RE: [313] the kings of pitch slides

2002-03-01 Thread Jared Wilson
groove box would be MC303 not tb From: Holly MacDonald-Korth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pond, Quest' [EMAIL PROTECTED], '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] the kings of pitch slides Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 10:16:32 -0700 was it green velvet that put out portamento tracks? i

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Jayson B.
i agree. most of laura's words were spot on.why let a tiny, inconsequential phrase nullify all the excellent points she made - shouldn't you make some allowances for cultural differences between Laura's local communication styles and yours. stupid nigger. sorry, we use that phrase in

RE: [313] the kings of pitch slides

2002-03-01 Thread J. T.
awww the forever king of portamento is patrick adams! atmosphere strut or spaced out are my favorites :) but in techno world i would have to put drexciya, juan, eddie fowlkes, kms, and ron cook (just for ffwd!) in the top 5 :P :) there' s an awful lot of people who pull out some dope portamento

RE: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Rob Theakston
i would just like to state for the record that Carl does not get his nike's custom made. thank you. -Original Message- From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:30 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

[313] please be more careful of the words used here

2002-03-01 Thread Giles Dickerson
Please refrain from using the N word. I find this extremely upsetting and if you're dropping it for shock value, ok, I'm shocked, and again upset. Please please keep the conversation at a level that's tolerable. There's no reason to be talking like that. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N

[313] re: (313) The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread neon tse tse
don't expect me to give a damn what you think. don´t be searching 4 mistakes for switching it off - yes. please speak up and say what you don´t agree with, but do enter the subject and don´t suggest there´s nothing 4 you and others to give a damn about it - then, if you enter this subject,

[313] go detroit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2002-03-01 Thread nancy mitchell
I am sorry I have not been replying to alot of messages lately. I am excited to see this list full of small GOOD quality events taking place in Detroit lateley. There seems to be more good stuff going on there than a lot of other places these days. = Nancy Mitchell Artist Management and

Re: [313] please be more careful of the words used here

2002-03-01 Thread Jayson B.
Please refrain from using the N word. I find this extremely upsetting and if you're dropping it for shock value, ok, I'm shocked, and again upset. Please please keep the conversation at a level that's tolerable. There's no reason to be talking like that. I find the f word just as

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread EmphasisR
I totally agree with you Jayson. If you don't like them (sasha and digweed), don't support them. don't go. Energy spent whining about it is pointless. Instead, use that energy and go make a fucking record of your own if you want to really do something about the scene. All of this is falling on

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread neon tse tse
am 01.03.2002 19:10 Uhr schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: People, you are always going to be broke if you're worrying about someone else's income. always going to e broke ? who are you talking to ? what you mean by that ? m planetz2002

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Peter Leidy
First of all, this is one of the most thought-provoking threads I've read in a while (nit-picking over curse words aside)- I'm glad the opinions are being voiced and I'd like to hear more from those like Laura who have a lot of direct industry experience with these issues. firing off cannons.

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread neon tse tse
Jayson B. unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: sorry MOTHERFUCKER - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread R.Y.Fixer
hillbilly music != country music. Appalachian music has it's roots in Irish folk music. A lot of the O' Brother Where Art Thou? soundtrack that just won the Grammy for Best Album of the Year was Appalachian based music. Never been a money maker, mostly white folks making it, small subculture

[313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses

2002-03-01 Thread Giles Dickerson
I think a huge part of why the attempts to marklet house and techno on a large scale have failed is because there is no one singing (sure occasionally there is) but there's no one there dancing singing to make a video of, talking to the audience. Popular music has melodies that are easily

RE: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Holly MacDonald-Korth
two writers from the washington post have just published a book titled The news about the news: American Journalism in Peril that in a large part addresses this issue of LCD marketing, and the fallacy that highbrow news has no audience. the two were on fresh air the other day. you can listen to

RE: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Rob Theakston
Your point is still valid, who's the evil oppressor in this case? GEORGE CLOONEY! blah On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 13:15, John Bush wrote: While money may be the easiest problem to shake your fist at, the marketing forces that determine the economics are guided by

Re: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses

2002-03-01 Thread robin pinning
I think a huge part of why the attempts to marklet house and techno on a large scale have failed is because there is no one singing (sure occasionally there is) but there's no one there dancing singing to make a video of, talking to the audience. Popular music has melodies that are easily

RE: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses

2002-03-01 Thread Giles Dickerson
Yes and No. The Chemical brothers and Fatboy Slim tend to choose a single or a couple very catchy vocal edits and repeat them over and over. We know they're samples but I think the general audience probably thinks it might be the artist or a singer. Smack My Bitch Up. Ugggh. - Giles D I G I

[313] House / techno popularity

2002-03-01 Thread Giles Dickerson
Incidentally, I always had a personal fantasy about Blaze becoming R+B hits, with guest vocalists like Mary J Blige. I still think it could happen. Sajaeda had a little lamb, it's fleece as white as snow, and ever where Sajaeda went the lamb was sure to go - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N

RE: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses

2002-03-01 Thread Neil Wallace
:Smack My Bitch Up. Ugggh. smack my bitch up; like a pimp yay - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses

2002-03-01 Thread Vince Woolums
Benjamin Barber - Jihad vs McWorld Read it. You'll be ever so glad you did. And while you're at it, (re)read your Smith and Marx. Maybe a little Weber for good measure. Vince Woolums AOL IM: vincewoolums http://bnsrecords.gemm.com http://www.recordcollectorinc.com Subject: Re: [313]

RE: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses

2002-03-01 Thread robin pinning
Yes and No. The Chemical brothers and Fatboy Slim tend to choose a single or a couple very catchy vocal edits and repeat them over and over. We know they're samples but I think the general audience probably thinks it might be the artist or a singer. yeah fair point, that had occured to me when

Re: [313] House / techno popularity

2002-03-01 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Speaking of house music - is there any email lists like this one (well maybe not like this one) that discusses house music? I have yet to run into one - not talking tech-house but real house music? I'd be interested in seeing some discussions about gay black men and lesbian women in the music

RE: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses

2002-03-01 Thread Giles Dickerson
I realized something fairly profound halfwat through this year and applied the thinking to my own viewpoint of loop sampling. I don't mean getting a sound, when I say sampling I mean taking a chunk and looping and editing. I decided that I would think of music (whether house hip hop or

RE: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses

2002-03-01 Thread Matthew Cloney
I think historically there's been a hierarchy of musical popularity, and it all has to do with how human the music is as far as mass appeal. I would put things like experimental, industrial and techno at one end of the spectrum, and pop music at the other. On the one end you've got something

RE: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses

2002-03-01 Thread robin pinning
And as far as electronic music artists ripping off other people, everything has been done before. Some people think DJ Shadow's Endtroducing is just pure plagiarism, while those who are a little more open-minded may consider it art. yeah giles' view (as a remix) i think is the best one to

RE: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses

2002-03-01 Thread Giles Dickerson
My God, Entroducing is an entirely notable work. His understanding of how drums work is obvious in his programming. That's an amazign album, if you listen to interviews you'll also see, he did that cut and paste style, very very old school technique, using fairly lo-fi rgear. - Giles D I G I

RE: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses

2002-03-01 Thread Matthew Cloney
Right you are Giles, The issue of Muzik magazine that came out (in the States) about a month ago has a one or two-page interview with Shadow, and lists it as the #1 dance album of all-time... though I agree with the reader comments that were a little surprised to see it at #1 as it's a bit tough

RE: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses

2002-03-01 Thread Giles Dickerson
Best Dance Album is a bold (and loaded statement) I could rattle all kinds of wierd stuff at that. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 -- From: Matthew Cloney

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread laura gavoor
Calling names is rather childish idn't it?? However, I claim NO political correctness in favor of the truth, b'sides, I'm not running for any public office. Politicians will ALWAYS be greedy bastards, and the majority of nouveau industry journalists suck the d**k of any label that is

Re: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses

2002-03-01 Thread Nocturnals
You might find some interesting points on this made by John Selway on Futurebpm.com. I interviewed him and we talked quite a bit about dance music in America and so on... Check it out...www.futurebpm.com, click FEATURE. Also, you've got radio and MTV here in America that is a complete joke.

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread laura gavoor
My gay friends incline the exact sam e way...but call it what you will. Personally, feeling ones gonads and living fearlessly is a simple choice--whatever your denomination or distinction of choice may be fierce ruling divas do exactly that...rule or command attention because they

Re: [313] House / techno popularity

2002-03-01 Thread laura gavoor
Search streetsound's globalhouse.com (i think that's the url) always interesting discussions with real house headz, although I haven't logged on in a while From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Giles Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@Hyperreal.Org (E-mail) 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313]

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Beau Burke
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, laura gavoor wrote: My gay friends incline the exact sam e way...but call it what you will. Personally, feeling ones gonads and living fearlessly is a simple choice--whatever your denomination or distinction of choice may be fierce ruling divas do exactly

Re: [313] House / techno popularity

2002-03-01 Thread laura gavoor
Giles...you read my mind!!! I stil CANNOT fathom why A the fabulous Blaze tracks from Funky People to Another Dae to Can You Dance to My Beat and on and on...all song based house compositions COULD NOT, WOULD NOT be considered commerically viable in America...they MUST be

RE: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread laura gavoor
MBAs (Masters in Business Administration, aka--'beancounters'...)making creative decisions based on tired ass formula's. Real life cannot be fomulated, natural order/disorder will always thro a curve ball. From: R.Y.Fixer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC:

Re: [313] Marketing -FACE

2002-03-01 Thread nancy mitchell
a HUGE part of it that has been discussed by many underground artists and label people you know and major labels is, FACE for many years not many artsts marketed their music with FACE, look at alot of the famous people in this music now, they have FACE , people all know what they look like.

Re[2]: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Brian 'balistic' Prince
Friday, March 01, 2002, 1:34:52 PM, a knob was tweaked and out came: lg Real life cannot be lg fomulated, natural order/disorder will always thro a curve ball. So breeding talking velociraptors was a bad idea? You hippie scientists and your chaos theory . . . - Brian balistic

[313] digest request

2002-03-01 Thread Saving Our Sounds
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[313] dan sicko-everyone else -sorry- delete

2002-03-01 Thread nancy mitchell
like a fool just deleated your messageoops.. I am in NYC for the moment = Nancy Mitchell Artist Management and Promotions FORM,Inc. Tokyo Japan Tel: +81-(0)3-5459-3939 Fax: +81-(0)3-5459-3940 URL Address: http://www.womb.co.jp EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [313] Hype, Marketing, and BS (was The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT...)

2002-03-01 Thread Oscillate
This is all a very tired debate...we covered this shit in one form on this list back in 1998, and I'm old school here enough to know. If you want to know more about marketing of this music and the retarded shit that goes along with it, read Dan Sicko's book 'Techno Rebels.' Myself and a few

[313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses

2002-03-01 Thread David Bitterman
Lets not forget how much popular music is programmed. i.e. Someone writes the melody, someone else the lyrics, the vocalist or performer performs the tune. And nice music directors and AR people and pop producers put the whole thing together. We take this feeling from this music, combine it with

Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread laura gavoor
Absolutely valid point. But, 1. the same opportunites presented to the artists in question beg to speak to the business. Inequity is sorely understating it. 2. moreover, the main crux of my long winded tireade spoke to the difference between being a consumer and being in the industry

Re: [313] Hype, Marketing, and BS (was The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT...)

2002-03-01 Thread Beau Burke
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all a very tired debate...we covered this shit in one form on this list back in 1998, and I'm old school here enough to know. I think you need to reconsider how you made these statements. Most likely, you meant to say _I'm_ tired

[313] New Baby Ford...

2002-03-01 Thread Grammenos, Peter
Anyone have a review on this? KLANG 060 DO LP BABY FORD / IFACH COLLECTIVESACRED MACHINES -Pete --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 ---

[313] OSHUN II ALL FEMALE DJ EVENT MARCH 24 2 10PM AT CRISTAL-SOUTHBEACH

2002-03-01 Thread Saving Our Sounds
SUNDAY AFTERNOON MARCH 24th OSHUN II presented by WomenOnWax, Superjane, Soledad Records, XLR8R Mag., RFO, and Backdoor Records DJS/PERFORMERS: MINX (WOW, Detroit), Lady D.

Re: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses

2002-03-01 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
One word: Deregulation. When Clinton signed the bill I knew my favorite radio stations were going to go away - and you know what? They did. One became a country western station overnight (then it went hard rock, then alternative, then rb, now it's back to even more watered down alternative) and

RE: [313] Hype, Marketing, and BS (was The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT...

2002-03-01 Thread Oscillate
In a message dated 3/1/02 5:32:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, Oscillate writes: In a message dated 3/1/02 4:48:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, Beau...I don't know how long you've been on 313, but you've probably noticed that I don't post too often 'round these

[313] The sexy adventures of Orietta St.Cloud - my personal experience

2002-03-01 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Ok I just read through it last night and this is my impression - it's good for most techno fans but I think that a lot of comic book collectors would be miffed. The artwork at times does waver but then turn the page and it's amazing - hand drawn images over what appear to be computer created -

[313] sad day...

2002-03-01 Thread Teknologik909
BERLIN (AP) — Oskar Sala, the German composer and physicist whose novel musical instrument produced the sound effects for Alfred Hitchcock’s The Birds, died Tuesday. He was 91. Sala developed and mastered the trautonium, billed as the world's first electronic musical instrument when it was

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