I want to respond to the music has no color bit
If music has no color, I'd like to see 4 black dudes play the roles of
the 4 Beatles in a movie. Or a white man playing the role of Jimi
Hendrix in a movie.
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This really has nothing to do with the thread... but I'm listening to
Rolando's Aztech Mystic mix. and nobody does music like
Detroit. Black. White. Latino. Whatever. The best artists are born here,
move here, or are inspired by this city and its artists. Detroit's artists
may not make
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It's
At least Fatboy Slim knows where Chicago and Detroit are on the
musical map.
But if I read that quote one more time I'm gonna urp right here on
313. He makes the music more palatable -- right. I have the same
complaint about him that I have about Moby and Puffy -- obviously
talented people
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One entry found for racism.
Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-si-zm also -shi-
Function: noun
07, 2002 6:06 PM
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Further, I'd say they're inexcusable really. However, I wondered
how those
offensive remarks of Ms Gavoor, invalidated the other stuff
Laura Gavoor
said. Still have yet to get a cogent non-insulting, non inflammatory
actually, there is a very clear accepted definition. It might be worded
slightly differently in the OED but that was from Mirriam Webster, the
US standard dictionary.
Language is the only way we human animals have to convey meaning, and
for it to work, we all need to work from the same
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actually, there is a very clear accepted definition. It might be worded
slightly differently
Tristan has a great point here. Besides, how do you know that the person who
posted originally about racism meant it the same way as webster did?!
I mean seriously; wasn't webster only 3.5 ft. tall because of a deficiency in
his pituitary gland? With all the medication he was taking, how
this is the point exactly. How do we know what anyone else means unless
we use the one common source of the meaning of the words we use in our
language?
I can see tristan really wishes the words mean something different to
the rest of us, but it just hasn't happened yet.
Linguistics and
My suggestion is to start a new topic about racism in music and use the webster
or OED definition from the get-go. then maybe it would go more smoothly???
this is the point exactly. How do we know what anyone else means unless
we use the one common source of the meaning of the words we use
there are many better forums available on the Net for those with an
interest in Discrimination in the Music Industry, racial or sexual or
what have you. Seek them out, the discussions would be welcome there
and might even have qualified, educated people to help you formulating
your own opinions.
Eh. I don't personally really have an interest in discussing it unless I see a
chance to crack a joke about it. It is interesting to read many of the posts
though...
On Fri, 08 March 2002, R.Y.Fixer wrote:
there are many better forums available on the Net for those with an
interest in
What I can't believe about you is that you are so dedicated to the fact that
you are sure that I am mistaken at whatever I say, and that I can't have an
opinion outside of yours, that that makes me racist, becuae I disagree that
Jaun Atkins thinks there's racism against him in the electronic
if you are not going to engage yourself with the reading material this
conversation is mute because we are coming from different points of reference.
good day,
Tamara Harris
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Sometimes it seems that it would be easier for me to make it in the electronic
music indistry if I were black. This, I think, is because most of the ones I
look up to are black and it almost seems like a pre-req, you know what I mean?
I'm not saying that this is a fact or anything. I think
1 Concepts/words are not neutral, they are contested weapons which social
forces use in struggles for power. There is no such thing as an
objective/politically neutral linguistics, and meanings are not static.
This is especially true of a loaded concept like racism.
2 From Deleuze and
in
'history'. These actions and epithets are not exclusive to white males.
Vince Woolums
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1 Concepts/words are not neutral, they are contested weapons which
social
forces use in struggles for power. There is no such thing as an
objective/politically
on 3/8/02 3:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3 In other words, the minority is defined by difference from a NORM, and
that norm in our society exists as the WHITE ADULT MALE.
Don't you ever call me Norm. ;-)
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im becoming
(Nice post btw)
I guess I must be speaking another language.
no one called Atkins a racist as if any black person could ever be.
no, you spoke english, but you messed it up bad. (I hope you dont mean
the above)
I keep meaning to leave this thread alone but you post something like this
and I find myself
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wow is this what I reduced you to?
bravo on the brief display of education.
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LMAO.
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wow is this what I reduced you to?
bravo
influential
players but in terms of business, culture and music his influence is
greater than any of these flossy MFs, right?
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 6:52 AM
So is this list
dont you fools
know that the music knows no color?
This is a lovely idealistic thought but you really can't isolate music in
some kind of poetic vacuum. The music is a product of a certain cultural,
social and economic hegemony and the circumstances determine whether it is
heard or not and
:19 AM
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dont you fools
know that the music knows no color?
This is a lovely idealistic thought but you really can't isolate music in
some kind of poetic vacuum. The music is a product of a certain cultural,
social and economic hegemony
the music itself is about inclusivity. that's why I love it; we all can get
together.
it is the politics behind the mass dissemination of the music that's ugly.
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and music has brought people together but the
prejudice is still there. Just ask any non white DJ about dealing with
customs.
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I guess I must be speaking another language.
you must be, because the below statement was either translated incorrectly
of the dumbest thing anyone has said on this list (in my
Yes I have been reading all this bullshit about what I said or didn't say in
my interview with xlr8r. Let's keep in mind that:
1) I did not go into xlr8r and hold a gun to the editor's head and make them
interview me or put me on the cover, contrary to the haters (Poivrenoir,
Yussel, Jayson B)
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Yes I have been reading all this bullshit about what I said or didn't say in
my interview with xlr8r. Let's keep in mind that:
1) I did not go into xlr8r and hold a gun to the editor's head and make them
interview me or put me on the cover, contrary
19:19
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ever heard of, thedjlist can suck it?
paul van oakenfag and sasha van digaho before hawtin? BAD BOY BILLLIEE
in the mix.. live.. understand?
PLUHHHLLLEEEAASSSEEE
remain, your truest friend
Ken
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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:46 AM
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Yes I have been reading all this bullshit about what I said or
didn't say in
my interview with xlr8r
i dont the point being raised was 'which dj is the best' it was to do with
which was the most well known, i would agree that carl cox certainly has a
hugely higher profile than hawtin in the uk.
this one is gone from one way to another, from racial problems to who is
better dj, and who is
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who
is that carl cox figure.
fat ass dj running intec nothing special
clap clap clap: there ya go!
I certainly didn't see richie in a commercial in europe where
he's got an apron on and mixing batter
Although i have no clue where you're going with this list of pointless
questions, i'll still reply. I hate it when people dismiss my posts as
nonsense and ignore what i'm saying, so i won't do that to you, although its
still a waste of my time.
Do you like Techno?
Of course. I adore
to say something (anything frankly) that's positive!
All the best,
Ken
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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:38 PM
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Although i have no clue where you're going with this list
on 7/3/02 3:41 pm, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I seem to remember that you're famous around here too, for your 'stupid
nigger' remark.
the same way lauryn is famous for her brit-faggots remark. oh, but sorry,
that was some kind of geographical communication bullshit that us
I see everyones still at it...
anyone got anything interesting to say?
Anyopne looking forwward to LOST this month?
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Right-said-phred!..part deux
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Pouvrenoir:
You have your opinion. But there is plenty in what you say that should
be challenged. Oakenfold may speak
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on 7/3/02 3:41 pm, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I seem to remember that you're famous around here too, for your 'stupid
nigger' remark
Racism is a system of insitutionalized discrimination against one group by
another.
Under this system in America white skin and whiteness is accorded certain
priveiliges.
It comes from a historical precedent set by North American chattel slavery
where whites owned so called black people.
The
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Racism is a system of insitutionalized discrimination against one
group by
another.
Under this system in America white skin and whiteness is accorded
certain
priveiliges.
It comes from a historical precedent set
I wish we did live in colorblind world like that. that's why I love house and
techno; it unites people on the dancefloor.
Tamara Harris
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:) A little humbling lesson to everyone :)
Thank you, Juan
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Yes I have been reading all this bullshit about what I said
i dont know what that english protestant preachers
talked to you 500 years ago,
English? Where? Just kidding ;)
If this isn't an attempt to bring RELIGION as well as RACE into the debate, I
don't know what is...
TJ
www.wireframerecords.com
www.mp313.com
I'm going to change the subject now to suit my needs :)
in case anyone cares, I have a track up at from a recent show (pardon my
lack of webpage for the record company site, I dont have time right now with
school and all.)
its a little rough but let me know what you think
link doesn't work??
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I'm going to change the subject now to suit my needs :)
in case anyone cares, I have a track up at from
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link doesn't work??
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I'm going
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you rock.
thanks
-Joe
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www.makeashorterlink.com
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, :P wrote
It's simply nice to hear you say you actually like Detroit techno and for
that matter, techno after your unfavourable comments on the same.
I_have_never_once_made_negative_comments_about_techno. Not one single time.
I have made comments about people who find themselves to be techno elite,
Further, I'd say they're inexcusable really. However, I wondered how those
offensive remarks of Ms Gavoor, invalidated the other stuff Laura Gavoor
said. Still have yet to get a cogent non-insulting, non inflammatory
response that actually answers that question.
Hi ken! i'm so very glad
: Thursday, March 7, 2002 1:05 PM
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Further, I'd say they're inexcusable really. However, I wondered how those
offensive remarks of Ms Gavoor, invalidated the other stuff Laura Gavoor
said. Still have yet to get a cogent non
I think its time for a group hug.
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Yes I have been reading all this bullshit about what I said or didn't say
in my interview with xlr8r
I'm glad to see that you're reading all this. it amazes me sometimes how
many high profile people are on this list and actively reading it.
I'll still continue to speak my mind on you or
You have the ability to pracically walk into any club in the world and
tell THEM that you're spinning that night, for the mere fact that you are
juan atkins.
That's assuming a lot. I do hope you were exaggerating.
MEK
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You have the ability to pracically walk into any club in the world and
tell THEM that you're spinning that night, for the mere fact that you are
juan atkins.
That's assuming a lot. I do hope you were exaggerating.
MEK
3)Since when did a coupla new jack playa haters (Poivrenoir,Yussel,
Jayson B,etc.) become the authority on this list as to who is in or out
of touch with Detroit ?
I wonder if Juan really get's all these 313 posts or if someone just tells him
when people are talking about him? It
on
correct.
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Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 23:18:41 +
If I was a professionnal, I'd sent this kind of thing in private...
There is absolutly no added value here!
And hopefully someone has made his
, 2002 12:58 PM
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Yes I have been reading all this bullshit about what I said or didn't
say
in my interview with xlr8r
I'm glad to see that you're reading all this. it amazes me sometimes how
many high profile people are on this list and actively reading
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Why not take this stuff off the list, do I need to read this?
That's a rhetorical question.
- Giles
D I G I T A S // B O S T O N
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Yes I have been reading all this bullshit about what I said or didn't
say
in my interview with xlr8r
I'm glad to see that you're reading all this. it amazes me sometimes how
many high profile people are on this list and actively reading it.
I'll still continue
: Thursday, March 7, 2002 1:05 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Regarding Business
Further, I'd say they're inexcusable really. However, I wondered how
those
offensive remarks of Ms Gavoor, invalidated the other stuff Laura
Gavoor
said. Still have yet to get
I'm sure everyone feels your pain Giles. As it seems that there only about
5-10 people debating this issue it would be nice if they argued with
each other privately.
you're totally right. the next time 5-10 discuss a track id for a week
please remind yourselves to respond privately.
track IDs are on topic
race relations and how atkins wipes his ass is not.
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I'm sure everyone feels your pain Giles. As it seems
IT.
whining about it does no good whatsoever
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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:32 PM
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Well...his points ARE valid onesbut to a much smaller degree than
and dance!
Peace,
Laura Gavoor
Yin-Sight Management
248-851-6436 fon
248-851-6521 fax
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:07:23 -0500
I think its time for a group hug
track IDs are on topic
race relations and how atkins wipes his ass is not.
and as i'm sure other people will point out, race relations IN techno and
juan atkins are more on topic than discussing aril's latest release.
but i guess that's a matter of opinion then yes? If some people on
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:29 PM
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Wholeheartedly Agreed!
My personal apologies/thanks for everyone's patience in enduring my
flagrant
bandwidth filibusters and any offensive language. You were right to
check... However...it is ONLY through debate
and as i'm sure other people will point out, race relations IN techno and
actually, I'm pretty sure everyone would point out that they are sick of
hearing from you and I.
I'm on their side. I digress
-Joe
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I think we simply need a VERY good party so's we can ALL shut up and dance!
Yeeeayy!!!
But wait ,who would Dj? -another long winded debate forms... :)
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how come 313 doesnt throw a party?
I think that's a great idea of this years DEMF. Wish I could be there.
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we should do it.
anyone else motivated to work it out?
-Joe
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how come 313
I could. Gotta convince my wife that doing a free show would be a good
thing, though.
:)
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we
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I wish we did live in colorblind world like that.
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Yeah but we'd run all the red lights :)
So I guess you're saying Detroit is colorblind! ;-)
(love those signs downtown that say The Light is RED for a reason!)
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Hello,
I am sorry that I have to have my own opinion on this, but what I believe
stands. I never said I was hatin on Juan, I never said he was a bad artist.
Yet you can't blame the interviewer for your own answers. Or the editing,
unless it was malicious, and in that regard I would assume a
Hello,
Is it possible that this is the most ignorant person in America? How does the
fact that Juan Atkins is an African American this excludes him from being
racist? Where does this come from?
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Racism is a system of insitutionalized discrimination against one group by
for the last time. Read the thinkers I mentioned and you will understand.
why don't you start with that Larry Heard track with the MLK speech on it.
It is you my friend that is ignorant and here is your big chance to change
it. Maybe you don't understand English well.
I understand that
One entry found for racism.
Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-si-zm also -shi-
Function: noun
Date: 1936
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and
capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority
of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice
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the fact is, the stuff that ppl are refering to when they refer to Juan
Atkins 'the legend' is his early
I'm agreeing with Laura, but I've always been curious about the moments in
the spotlight of Black Box (late-80s/early 90s) and Crystal Waters (mid
90s). Crystal Waters is still releasing music and playing out (I believe she
lives in Baltimore so I may have a more regionalized perspective on this).
OK-
Lets take a look at basically the biggest, most well paid, most recognized
electronic artists today.
trance: oakenfold, sasha digweed (white)
techno: carl cox? (black)
jungle: goldie (black)
its not a black / white thing
its a geographic thing (uk/usa)
and that's because the uk has the
The problem is obvious.
How many people who revere the early Model 500 tracks in retrospect
would have even given them a moment's notice in 1987? No, they were
self-released by a young guy from a no-name Detroit suburb, a bunch
of things ranting on and on about UFOs and stuff over clattery
i don't think anyone is debating the quality of juan's music. obviously,
if you are on this list, i think its safe to assume that you're more
than likely to throw a Model 500 record on the turntable.
what *i* am debating is the sentiment that juan somehow deserves to be
thrown tons of money and
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I count 'Deep Space' as my all-time favorite 313 album.
Just a quick story--I spent a frustrating, long Amtrak trip from Detroit to
Chicago several years ago, but was fortunate enough to be seated next to a
fellow music geek.
He was doing his PHD at
trance: oakenfold, sasha digweed (white)
techno: carl cox? (black)
jungle: goldie (black)
come on, man ,techno carl cox
if somebody is mega super star in techno thats got to be Richie Hawtin, who
is that carl cox figure.
fat ass dj running intec nothing special
b.
Jeff Mills, Neil Lanstrumm
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trance: oakenfold, sasha digweed (white)
techno: carl cox? (black)
jungle: goldie (black)
come on, man
The point I was trying to make is that not wether Jaun or Oakenfold being one
dj better than the other, it's the fact that Oakenfold speaks to more people
with his music right now, even if there is some historical arguement against
that he's not as pioneering, who gives a fuck? I don't like
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come on, man ,techno carl cox
if somebody is mega super star in techno thats got to be Richie Hawtin, who
is that carl cox figure.
fat ass dj running intec nothing special
dude, you're
Uh No the DEMF was not a Detroit clique thing and even if it was it is called
the DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL.
you must be a person living outside of the us or in the us in a white skin
and ignorant of history.
UR and Atkins are pioneers of this music and get no respect from the business
It was a planet e, KMS, metroplex promo package.
number of planet e artists at DEMF 2000:2 (Recloose + Jason
Hogans)
number of KMS recording at DEMF 2000: 1 (Kevin Saunderson)
number of metroplex recording artists: 0 (debatable, as Juan was
scheduled
but
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Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business
The point I was trying to make is that not wether Jaun or
Oakenfold being one
dj better than the other, it's the fact that Oakenfold speaks to
more people
what spotlight??? Juan Atkins was never in the Spotlight
the techno were always larger overseas than at home. Those records were
underground.
KMS's Big Fun and Good Life were the biggest records for that whole scene.
There was NEVER a time that Derrick got mobbed walking down the street in
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unless, I suppose you work for UR, which is anti anything not black.
You just proved that you have got absolutely no clue what you're talking
about.
Otto
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I cant believe what bullshit this list is. dont you fools
know that the music knows no color? cant you people
remember the days when no one knew what color the guy
putting out the record was and you just listened to it
for, *gasp* the MUSIC?
This list bickers and bitches about race more
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