Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-11 Thread glyph1001
I want to respond to the "music has no color" bit If music has no color, I'd like to see 4 black dudes play the roles of the 4 Beatles in a movie. Or a white man playing the role of Jimi Hendrix in a movie. g. - To uns

[313] Regarding Business

2002-03-10 Thread Big Loda . Krhn
This really has nothing to do with the thread... but I'm listening to Rolando's Aztech Mystic mix. and nobody does music like Detroit. Black. White. Latino. Whatever. The best artists are born here, move here, or are inspired by this city and its artists. Detroit's artists may not make

[313] Regarding Business

2002-03-10 Thread R - Type
-- close your eyes. whether we're white, black, yellow... we just feel the soul music inside. blind-listen. deaf-feel Is your boss reading your email? Probably Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com ---

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-09 Thread Cyclone Wehner
THIS WAS NOT MY POST YOU ARE REFERRING TO BELOW. Please read carefully before directing criticism to someone on this list. -- >From: "Vince Woolums" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regardin

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread Ian
on 3/8/02 3:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 3> In other words, the minority is defined by difference from a NORM, and > that norm in our society exists as the WHITE ADULT MALE. Don't you ever call me Norm. ;-) -- im becoming (Nice post btw)

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2002-03-08 Thread Vince Woolums
nearly all times in 'history'. These actions and epithets are not exclusive to white males. Vince Woolums Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business > 1> Concepts/words are not neutral, they are contested weapons which social > forces use in struggles for power. Th

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2002-03-08 Thread Cyborg K
1> Concepts/words are not neutral, they are contested weapons which social forces use in struggles for power. There is no such thing as an "objective"/politically neutral linguistics, and meanings are not static. This is especially true of a loaded concept like racism. 2> From Deleuze and

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread T . J . Johnson
Sometimes it seems that it would be easier for me to make it in the electronic music indistry if I were black. This, I think, is because most of the ones I look up to are black and it almost seems like a pre-req, you know what I mean? I'm not saying that this is a fact or anything. I think ev

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread cinqueorange
if you are not going to engage yourself with the reading material this conversation is mute because we are coming from different points of reference. good day, Tamara Harris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addit

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread Poivrenoir
What I can't believe about you is that you are so dedicated to the fact that you are sure that I am mistaken at whatever I say, and that I can't have an opinion outside of yours, that that makes me racist, becuae I disagree that Jaun Atkins thinks there's racism against him in the electronic mus

Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread T . J . Johnson
Eh. I don't personally really have an interest in discussing it unless I see a chance to crack a joke about it. It is interesting to read many of the posts though... On Fri, 08 March 2002, "R.Y.Fixer" wrote: > > there are many better forums available on the Net for those with an > interest i

Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread R.Y.Fixer
there are many better forums available on the Net for those with an interest in Discrimination in the Music Industry, racial or sexual or what have you. Seek them out, the discussions would be welcome there and might even have qualified, educated people to help you formulating your own opinions.

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2002-03-08 Thread T . J . Johnson
My suggestion is to start a new topic about racism in music and use the webster or OED definition from the get-go. then maybe it would go more smoothly??? > > this is the point exactly. How do we know what anyone else means unless > we use the one common source of the meaning of the words we u

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2002-03-08 Thread R.Y.Fixer
this is the point exactly. How do we know what anyone else means unless we use the one common source of the meaning of the words we use in our language? I can see tristan really wishes the words mean something different to the rest of us, but it just hasn't happened yet. Linguistics and sociolog

Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread T . J . Johnson
Tristan has a great point here. Besides, how do you know that the person who posted originally about racism meant it the same way as webster did?! I mean seriously; wasn't webster only 3.5 ft. tall because of a deficiency in his pituitary gland? With all the medication he was taking, how do

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2002-03-08 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: "R.Y.Fixer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 7:57 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business > actually, there is a very clear accepted d

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2002-03-08 Thread R.Y.Fixer
actually, there is a very clear accepted definition. It might be worded slightly differently in the OED but that was from Mirriam Webster, the US standard dictionary. Language is the only way we human animals have to convey meaning, and for it to work, we all need to work from the same definition

FW: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken
;s not a facade). Peace in any case, Ken >-Original Message- >From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:06 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: [313] Regarding Business > > > >>Further, I'd say they're in

Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: "R.Y.Fixer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business > One entry found for racism. > > Main Entry: rac·ism &g

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2002-03-08 Thread Fred Heutte
At least Fatboy Slim knows where Chicago and Detroit are on the musical map. But if I read that quote one more time I'm gonna urp right here on 313. He makes the music "more palatable" -- right. I have the same complaint about him that I have about Moby and Puffy -- obviously talented people w

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2002-03-07 Thread R.Y.Fixer
One entry found for racism. Main Entry: rac·ism Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi- Function: noun Date: 1936 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread cinqueorange
for the last time. Read the thinkers I mentioned and you will understand. why don't you start with that Larry Heard track with the MLK speech on it. It is you my friend that is ignorant and here is your big chance to change it. Maybe you don't understand English well. I understand that lot

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2002-03-07 Thread Poivrenoir
Hello, Is it possible that this is the most ignorant person in America? How does the fact that Juan Atkins is an African American this excludes him from being racist? Where does this come from? --- Begin Message --- Racism is a system of insitutionalized discrimination against one group by ano

RE: [313]Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Poivrenoir
Hello, I am sorry that I have to have my own opinion on this, but what I believe stands. I never said I was hatin on Juan, I never said he was a bad artist. Yet you can't blame the interviewer for your own answers. Or the editing, unless it was malicious, and in that regard I would assume a l

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Ian
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] com: >> >> I wish we did live in colorblind world like that. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Yeah but we'd run all the red lights :) So I guess you're saying Detroit is colorblind! ;-) (love those signs downtown that say "The Light is RED for a reason!") -- im

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Jones, George
I could. Gotta convince my wife that doing a free show would be a good thing, though. :) -Original Message- From: :P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; laura gavoor Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business we

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread :P
we should do it. anyone else motivated to work it out? -Joe - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ":P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>; "laura gavoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 4:12 PM Subj

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2002-03-07 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
how come 313 doesnt throw a party? I think that's a great idea of this years DEMF. Wish I could be there. MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2002-03-07 Thread Wv909
>I think we simply need a VERY good party so's we can ALL shut up and dance! > >Yeeeayy!!! But wait ,who would Dj? -another long winded debate forms... :) -- __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas.

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2002-03-07 Thread :P
> and as i'm sure other people will point out, race relations IN techno and actually, I'm pretty sure everyone would point out that they are sick of hearing from you and I. I'm on their side. I digress -Joe - To unsubscrib

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2002-03-07 Thread :P
OTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business > Wholeheartedly Agreed! > > My personal apologies/thanks for everyone's patience in enduring my flagrant > bandwidth filibusters and any offensive language. You were right

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2002-03-07 Thread Jayson B.
track IDs are on topic race relations and how atkins wipes his ass is not. and as i'm sure other people will point out, race relations IN techno and juan atkins are more on topic than discussing aril's latest release. but i guess that's a matter of opinion then yes? If some people on

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread laura gavoor
can ALL shut up and dance! Peace, Laura Gavoor Yin-Sight Management 248-851-6436 fon 248-851-6521 fax From: ":P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jayson B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business Date: Thu, 7 Mar

Re: [313] Regarding Business - get with it

2002-03-07 Thread :P
IT. whining about it does no good whatsoever - Original Message - From: "laura gavoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business - get with it > Well...his points ARE valid ones

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread :P
track IDs are on topic race relations and how atkins wipes his ass is not. - Original Message - From: "Jayson B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:05 PM Subject: RE: [313] Regarding Business > > >I'm sur

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2002-03-07 Thread Jayson B.
I'm sure everyone feels your pain Giles. As it seems that there only >about 5-10 people "debating" this issue it would be nice if they >argued with each other privately. you're totally right. the next time 5-10 discuss a track id for a week please remind yourselves to respond privately.

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2002-03-07 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
t; -- > From: Jayson B. > Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2002 1:05 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] Regarding Business > > > >Further, I'd say they're inexcusable really. However, I wondered how >those > >offensive rem

Re: [313]Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
58 PM Subject: RE: [313]Regarding Business > > >Yes I have been reading all this bullshit about what I said or didn't >say > >in my interview with xlr8r > > I'm glad to see that you're reading all this. it amazes me sometimes how > many high profile peop

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Alexandres Lugo
--- From: Giles Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:07 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org; Jayson B. Subject: RE: [313] Regarding Business Why not take this stuff off the list, do I need to read this? That's a rhetorical question. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Gi

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2002-03-07 Thread Vince Woolums
rsday, March 07, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: RE: [313]Regarding Business > > >Yes I have been reading all this bullshit about what I said or didn't >say > >in my interview with xlr8r > > I'm glad to see that you're reading all this. it amazes me sometimes

Re: [313] Regarding Business - get with it

2002-03-07 Thread laura gavoor
. Regarding the hype on the DEMF vs. Love Parade, Frederic IS spot on correct. From: "xx xx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business - get with it Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 23:18:41 + If I was a professionnal, I'd sent this kind of

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2002-03-07 Thread T . J . Johnson
> > >3)Since when did a coupla new jack playa haters (Poivrenoir,Yussel,& > > >Jayson B,etc.) become the authority on this list as to who is in or >out > >of touch with Detroit ? > I wonder if Juan really get's all these 313 posts or if someone just tells him when people are talking about h

RE: [313]Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Giles Dickerson
yson B. > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313]Regarding Business > > > >You have the ability to pracically walk into any club in the world and > tell THEM that you're spinning that night, for the mere fact that you are > juan atkins. > > That&#x

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2002-03-07 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
>You have the ability to pracically walk into any club in the world and tell THEM that you're spinning that night, for the mere fact that you are juan atkins. That's assuming a lot. I do hope you were exaggerating. MEK - To un

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2002-03-07 Thread Jayson B.
Yes I have been reading all this bullshit about what I said or didn't >say in my interview with xlr8r I'm glad to see that you're reading all this. it amazes me sometimes how many high profile people are on this list and actively reading it. I'll still continue to speak my mind on you or a

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Wv909
Can you all say back-pedal. >> > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- __ Your favorite s

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2002-03-07 Thread :P
I think its time for a group hug. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2002-03-07 Thread Giles Dickerson
n B. > Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2002 1:05 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] Regarding Business > > > >Further, I'd say they're inexcusable really. However, I wondered how >those > >offensive remarks of Ms Gavoor, invalidated the other

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Jayson B.
Further, I'd say they're inexcusable really. However, I wondered how >those offensive remarks of Ms Gavoor, invalidated the other stuff >Laura Gavoor said. Still have yet to get a cogent non-insulting, non inflammatory response that actually answers that question. Hi ken! i'm so very glad

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Jayson B.
It's simply nice to hear you say you actually like Detroit techno and >for that matter, techno after your unfavourable comments on the same. I_have_never_once_made_negative_comments_about_techno. Not one single time. I have made comments about people who find themselves to be techno elite,

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2002-03-07 Thread :P
you rock. thanks -Joe - Original Message - From: "doris non-woo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ":P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business (coming events) > www.ma

Re: [313] Regarding Business (coming events)

2002-03-07 Thread doris non-woo
-Joe > > - Original Message - > From: "Ian Cheshire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "':P'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:22 PM > Subject: RE: [313] Regarding Business (coming events) >

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2002-03-07 Thread :P
x27;" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:22 PM Subject: RE: [313] Regarding Business (coming events) > link doesn't work?? > > -Original Message- > From: :P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 07 March 2002 17:26 > To: 3

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2002-03-07 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
cc: 03/07/02 10:54 AMSubject: Re: [313] Regarding Bus

RE: [313] Regarding Business (coming events)

2002-03-07 Thread Ian Cheshire
link doesn't work?? -Original Message- From: :P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 March 2002 17:26 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business (coming events) I'm going to change the subject now to suit my needs :) in case anyone cares, I have a track up

Re: [313] Regarding Business (coming events)

2002-03-07 Thread :P
I'm going to change the subject now to suit my needs :) in case anyone cares, I have a track up at from a recent show (pardon my lack of webpage for the record company site, I dont have time right now with school and all.) its a little rough but let me know what you think http://www.emmrecords.c

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread T . J . Johnson
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2002-03-07 Thread Ja'Maul Redmond
:) A little humbling lesson to everyone :) Thank you, Juan -Original Message- From: JuanAtkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:46 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313]Regarding Business Yes I have been reading all this bullshit about what I said or

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread cinqueorange
I wish we did live in colorblind world like that. that's why I love house and techno; it unites people on the dancefloor. Tamara Harris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTE

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2002-03-07 Thread henrique casanova
ECTED], > Cc : > Data: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:32:40 EST > Assunto : Re: [313] Regarding Business > > Racism is a system of insitutionalized discrimination against one group by > another. > > Under this system in America white skin and whiteness is accorded certain > priv

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread cinqueorange
Racism is a system of insitutionalized discrimination against one group by another. Under this system in America white skin and whiteness is accorded certain priveiliges. It comes from a historical precedent set by North American chattel slavery where whites owned so called "black" people. Th

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Odeluga, Ken
27;t do anything about that though, it is a mailing list after all. Best regards, Ken >-Original Message- >From: Tim Maughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:48 PM >To: Odeluga, Ken; Jayson B.; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org >Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Busin

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread laura gavoor
Right-said-phred!..part deux From: Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:35:39 -0800 "Pouvrenoir": You have your opinion. But there is plenty in what you say that should be challenged.

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Ian Cheshire
I see everyones still at it... anyone got anything interesting to say? Anyopne looking forwward to LOST this month? -Original Message- From: Tim Maughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 March 2002 15:48 To: Odeluga, Ken; Jayson B.; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: Re: [313] Regarding

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Tim Maughan
on 7/3/02 3:41 pm, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I seem to remember that you're famous around here too, for your 'stupid > nigger' remark. the same way lauryn is famous for her "brit-faggots" remark. oh, but sorry, that was some kind of "geographical communication" bullshit that us b

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Odeluga, Ken
greatest pleasure today is simply prompting you to say something (anything frankly) that's positive! All the best, Ken >-Original Message- >From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:38 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: [313] Regard

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Jayson B.
Although i have no clue where you're going with this list of pointless questions, i'll still reply. I hate it when people dismiss my posts as nonsense and ignore what i'm saying, so i won't do that to you, although its still a waste of my time. Do you like Techno? Of course. I adore tech

RE: [313] Regarding Business - get with it

2002-03-07 Thread Koen Mariën
TECTED] > Verzonden: woensdag 6 maart 2002 23:48 > Aan: 313@hyperreal.org > Onderwerp: Re: [313] Regarding Business - get with it > > > > >who > >is that carl cox figure. > >fat ass dj running intec nothing special > > >clap clap clap: the

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2002-03-07 Thread Berislav
> i dont the point being raised was 'which dj is the best' it was to do with > which was the most well known, i would agree that carl cox certainly has a > hugely higher profile than hawtin in the uk. > this one is gone from one way to another, from racial problems to who is better dj, and who is

RE: [313]Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Odeluga, Ken
and have a great day. I remain, your truest friend Ken >-Original Message- >From: JuanAtkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:46 AM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: [313]Regarding Business > > >Yes I have been reading all this bullshit

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread neil wallace
> Sent: 06 March 2002 19:19 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business > > > ever heard of, "thedjlist can suck it?" > > paul van oakenfag and sasha van digaho before hawtin? B

RE: [313]Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Ian Cheshire
t: 07 March 2002 10:46 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313]Regarding Business Yes I have been reading all this bullshit about what I said or didn't say in my interview with xlr8r. Let's keep in mind that: 1) I did not go into xlr8r and hold a gun to the editor's head and make them intervi

[313]Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread JuanAtkins
Yes I have been reading all this bullshit about what I said or didn't say in my interview with xlr8r. Let's keep in mind that: 1) I did not go into xlr8r and hold a gun to the editor's head and make them interview me or put me on the cover, contrary to the haters (Poivrenoir, Yussel,& Jayson B) be

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Odeluga, Ken
m: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:12 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business > > > > >>I guess I must be speaking another language. > >you must be, because the below statement was either translated incorrec

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Cyclone Wehner
t this myself - but I try. :) There is a lot of good and music has brought people together but the prejudice is still there. Just ask any non white DJ about dealing with customs. -- >From: ":P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECT

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2002-03-07 Thread cinqueorange
the music itself is about inclusivity. that's why I love it; we all can get together. it is the politics behind the mass dissemination of the music that's ugly. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional command

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2002-03-07 Thread :P
hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:19 AM Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business > > >> dont you fools > >> know that the music knows no color? > > This is a lovely idealistic thought but you really can't isolate music in > some kind of poeti

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Cyclone Wehner
>> dont you fools >> know that the music knows no color? This is a lovely idealistic thought but you really can't isolate music in some kind of poetic vacuum. The music is a product of a certain cultural, social and economic hegemony and the circumstances determine whether it is heard or not an

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Cyclone Wehner
ted in polls of most influential players but in terms of business, culture and music his influence is greater than any of these flossy MFs, right? -- >From: "Alexandres Lugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [313] Regarding Business

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread :P
sorry to the list, this was not intended to be a public post. - Original Message - From: ":P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business > wo

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread cinqueorange
LMAO. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread :P
wow is this what I reduced you to? bravo on the brief display of education. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Busines

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread cinqueorange
Non-Sequitar. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2002-03-07 Thread :P
> >I guess I must be speaking another language. > > > >no one called Atkins a "racist" as if any "black" person could ever be. no, you "spoke" english, but you messed it up bad. (I hope you dont mean the above) I keep meaning to leave this thread alone but you post something like this and I fin

Re: [313] Regarding Business - get with it

2002-03-06 Thread neon tse tse
am 07.03.2002 0:02 Uhr schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > REGARDING BUSINESS : the truth I know is: many clubs don´t book the good european artists and labels either - just a few > WHAT ABOUT THE LOVE PARADE > 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE IN ONE AFTERNOON > THIS IS THE BIGGEST EVENT I

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Fred Heutte
"Pouvrenoir": You have your opinion. But there is plenty in what you say that should be challenged. Oakenfold may "speak" to more people with his music, but then by that criteria we all ought to drop all of this and just talk about N Sync, Brittney and U2, because they talk to the most people of

Re: [313] Regarding Business - get with it

2002-03-06 Thread Fdjaaleb
REGARDING BUSINESS : To Laura, 10 years ago the world promoter radio, press will contacting you for detroit artist 10 years ago all european majors or big independant label will contact you also for your detroit artist now, 95 % of european promoter does not want to book detroit dj o

Re: [313] Regarding Business - get with it

2002-03-06 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
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Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Jayson B.
I guess I must be speaking another language. you must be, because the below statement was either translated incorrectly of the dumbest thing anyone has said on this list (in my humble opinion of course). no one called Atkins a "racist" as if any "black" person could ever be. its kinda

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread glyph1001
cox is definitely more known in a 'mainstream' type of way as opposed to richie. I certainly didn't see richie in a commercial in europe where he's got an apron on and mixing batter in a bowl in a kitchen, promoting some mix cd or club night. g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm. hawtin or c

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread glyph1001
clap clap clap: there ya go! i know we've been through this and the opinions of it is varied but that new de9 is slammin', even now. g. Berislav wrote: trance: oakenfold, sasha digweed (white) techno: carl cox? (black) jungle: goldie (black) come on, man ,techno carl cox if some

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread cinqueorange
I guess I must be speaking another language. I said I do not have a problem with Atkins and I also suggested you read the article. no one called Atkins a "racist" as if any "black" person could ever be. Five - To unsubscribe,

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Jayson B.
I doubt that Juan would be making racist sounding > comments. why would you talk shit about the man when you > can EASILY contact him and hash things out with him? dont > you think he (or you if you were in his position) would > prefer that? in my humble opinion, if i was in his positi

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread :P
ROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business jesus h christ. you have no idea who i am. #1 i have never siad anythign in the motor mic about detroit. i don't get on the motor mic. #2 i don'

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread yussel
ion. > She built the very industry and artists you crawl behind and drunkenly give > shout outs to on the motor stage so famously. > > > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: keleigh casper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

RE: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread Rob Theakston
o: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business 1. i said Mixer Incs. referring to whatever fill-in-the-blank trash music pub you choose. 2. I'm clearly stating who you work for and ho

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2002-03-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"every kind of music played by a black musician includes a black message" my favorite is "we are going to create something they can't steal because they can't play it" monk during the evolution of bop This list doesn´t even come to the point to reflect it in the way it should be because ever

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread :P
]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business > 1. i said Mixer Incs. referring to whatever fill-in-the-blank trash mus

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread keleigh casper
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:50:37 -0500 (EST) number one- the magazine you are refering to is mixer

Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-06 Thread neon tse tse
> I cant believe what bullshit this list is. dont you fools > know that the music knows no color? Theo Parrish: "every kind of music played by a black musician includes a black message" >for months on end on the [313] mailing list. that is just dumb, > not to mention COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC yo

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