[AsburyPark] Re: Rev. Kev,... Help Me Out

2007-09-04 Thread justifiedright
You've zeroed in on the point Gary. Nice job. Almost every combat soldier in the history of the US has faced the same peronal dilemma: To kill, when the nature of himself is not to kill. The way a soldier pulls the trigger, they way he does not hesitate, is to be secure in the

[AsburyPark] Security Cameras and Allan's Concerns

2007-09-04 Thread James Keady
Friends of Asbury Park: I am writing to address recent posts on this message board referencing my efforts to place security cameras in hot spots throughout the City. As you may recall, on June 13, 2007 I made a written request to City Manager Reidy and Police Chief Kinmon to research this

Re: [AsburyPark] false, false, and false

2007-09-04 Thread Jersey Shore John
not exactly harboring Nidal: While Abu Nidal, who had been in declining health for years, was living in Baghdad, his terrorist group had been moribund for more than a decade prior to the U.S. invasion. Furthermore, Saddam Hussein had him executed in 2002, the year before the U.S. invasion.

[AsburyPark] Re: Security Cameras and Allan's Concerns

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
Thanks for the update Jim. Hopefully Allan will put aside his feelings and talk to you in person instead of coming here to post negative things about you. Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, James Keady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friends of Asbury Park: I am writing to address

[AsburyPark] Re: false, false, and false

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
What a bunch of BS about the war and the reasons we went there. When the war started, we went for one reason, and one reason only. WMD. That is what the whole world was told by Bush. And the whole reason was both false, and partially a lie (See aluminum tubes in Africa) Then, we have the whole

[AsburyPark] Re: false, false, and false

2007-09-04 Thread justifiedright
No one alleged the irrelevancy you attack, that Saddam and Osama were best frinds. Saddam allowed al-qeada in Iraq. Al-Zarchari was its leader there, not Osama. That's enough for us to attack Iraq. You're either with us or with al-qeada. I'm with us. How about you? Nice revisionist

[AsburyPark] Re: false, false, and false

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
I'm glad you love Bush so much. You said I have a limited world view. Guess what, your beloved president has done more to damage the credibility of our country then any president before him. Around the world, we are disliked and ridiculed by many, and I think we deserve it...not because of our

[AsburyPark] Re: false, false, and false

2007-09-04 Thread justifiedright
That's not hatred, it's jealousy of our great nation. Don't join them. Stay with us. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad you love Bush so much. You said I have a limited world view. Guess what, your beloved president has done more to damage the

[AsburyPark] Re: false, false, and false

2007-09-04 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a bunch of BS about the war and the reasons we went there. When the war started, we went for one reason, and one reason only. WMD. Close - Saddam was violating the agreement he made from Gulf War I and ignored 17 UN

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Prayer and Sacrifice

2007-09-04 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 9/3/2007 8:48:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are groups: Blue Star Mothers of America, a support group, that councils spouses of their needs, financially and morally, The USO, ...We are constantly gathering supplies, such as lotions,...

[AsburyPark] Re: false, false, and false

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
Have you ever traveled overseas? If so, have you been overseas in the last year or two? If not, then how can you have that opinion. I've been overseas many times since 9/11, and believe me, it isn't jealousy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Prayer and Sacrifice

2007-09-04 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 9/3/2007 10:20:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However or on the other hand sound to me like I would be sayihng something contrary. Perhads, additionally or not only that? Perhaps. Let's see. My gist was: The simple display of God

[AsburyPark] Re: false, false, and false

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
I'm not going to address any of the things you've said, because like most hardcore republicans, there is no reasoning with you. It'll just go round and round forever. I don't want to subject this forum to anymore of this. In fact, I think we should make another forum called Asbury Park

[AsburyPark] Re: false, false, and false

2007-09-04 Thread justifiedright
You always do this after one of my posts. Why did you not do so after the many, many, post from Mario, AsburyCouple and John? Go count they number they did and the number I did. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not going to address any of the things

[AsburyPark] Re: Security Cameras and Allan's Concerns

2007-09-04 Thread icaruscriesfire
Costco has 8 camera color outdoor system on sale with coupon this month! My proposal is in, but then I like simple, inexpensive things that work effectively. That's why I'm not in politics, particularly here. And Coffee and Beer are horrible together, I don't blame him for rejecting your

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: false, false, and false

2007-09-04 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 9/4/2007 10:36:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: there is no reasoning with you. It'll just go round and round forever. That's for sure. Reasonable citizens no longer rely on one or two gatekeepers for news and information. After a

[AsburyPark] Re: false, false, and false

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
I have no issue with them. As for you, there is absolutely no way to say anything that makes a difference. What I hear from you is the same problem I hear from much of the hardcore republican world. Denial and self-rightousness. There is no discussing. I have a 30 yr old friend that smirks

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Jailed by AP Judge

2007-09-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the surface I agree the immediacy and treatments seems overly harsh for something like this - clearly Werner was not a threat to anyone or a flight risk. I really don't know whether he deserved the punishment - it

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: false, false, and false

2007-09-04 Thread Jersey Shore John
Iraq has ignored 17 UN resolutions, Israel 64. When are we bombing Israel? Wow. You are so filled with Faux Noise talking points, it's amazing. Just keep throwing out these lies and hoping something gets through, or what? Joe Wilson did NOT find evidence of Iraq trying to get Uranium

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Confined 22 hrs/day

2007-09-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: because he has no income other than his rents So he rents out rooms or apts in a building that has so many violations? The violations are on his own residence, while technically a multifamily, only he lives in.

[AsburyPark] Re: Rev. Kev,... Help Me Out

2007-09-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To the troop himself I imagine it means a great deal. To go into battle, to kill and risk being killed, I think I would want to feel a closeness with God. I would want to be sure in my cause being just, to be able

[AsburyPark] Re: Rev. Kev,... Help Me Out

2007-09-04 Thread Kevin Brown
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's just me, but I'd be hearing that ol' commandment Thou Shall Not Kill in my ears all of the time. That commandment never says kill if the battle is correct or anything like that, it's pretty specific.

[AsburyPark] Re: Rev. Kev,... Help Me Out

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
Oh Jesus, here we go again...(sorry, I couldn't resist) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote: Maybe it's just me, but I'd be hearing that ol' commandment Thou Shall Not Kill in my ears all of

Re: [AsburyPark] Fw: Support for our soldiers

2007-09-04 Thread Jersey Shore John
Blue Star Mothers? Good. Equating the war in Iraq with WWII and the Civil War? Not so much. On Sep 4, 2007, at 11:30 AM, denise wrote: I am not in support of George Bush and what he has done as far as this war goes but I definitely support our troops. Member of Blue Star Mothers Chapter 1

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Werner Jailed by AP Judge

2007-09-04 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 9/4/2007 11:23:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A bunch of horse shit I say. . Who called about the fictitious body in the basement? ... the whole episode stinks. Only an unreasonable person could beleive that nothing that happened was because

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Rev. Kev,... Help Me Out

2007-09-04 Thread Jersey Shore John
Except Congress never declared war. H. Funny that. The war happened because when Bush first indicated his intention to go to war against Iraq, Congress refused to insist on enforcement of Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution. For more than 200 years, this article has spelled out

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Werner Confined 22 hrs/day

2007-09-04 Thread Allan Peterson
Thank you for clearing that up. I did not find that clear in the post - Original Message From: asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2007 9:40:12 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Werner Confined 22 hrs/day --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Security Cameras and Allan's Concerns

2007-09-04 Thread Allan Peterson
Dan should sit down with Fishman - Original Message From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2007 9:59:49 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Security Cameras and Allan's Concerns Thanks for the update Jim. Hopefully Allan will put aside his

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: false, false, and false

2007-09-04 Thread Jersey Shore John
You're either with us or with al-qeada. I'm with us. How about you? That's a false Bushie choice. You accept that as a black and white dichotomy. Non-kool-aid drinkrs do not. The 9/11 commission report is revisionist history? -kay. By the way where's the link? YOU justified no

[AsburyPark] Re: Security Cameras and Allan's Concerns

2007-09-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan should sit down with Fishman ? If the Fishman with power (Glenn) wanted to discuss any issues I had with Partners I would jump at the chance. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Security Cameras and Allan's Concerns

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
Let's all sit down with each other. I've often wondered what an AP board get together would be like. And, if Dan does sit down with Fishman, would you meet with JK? If so, why not? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan should sit down with Fishman

[AsburyPark] Re: Security Cameras and Allan's Concerns

2007-09-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's all sit down with each other. I've often wondered what an AP board get together would be like. And, if Dan does sit down with Fishman, would you meet with JK? If so, why not? JK is an elected official and Allan is a

[AsburyPark] Re: Security Cameras and Allan's Concerns

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
True. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Let's all sit down with each other. I've often wondered what an AP board get together would be like. And, if Dan does sit down with Fishman, would you

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Rev. Kev,... Help Me Out

2007-09-04 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 9/4/2007 11:56:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh Jesus, here we go again...(sorry, I couldn't resist) Don't resist. The kind preaching is specious talk. Deceptively attractive and appealing, but doesn't support the troops to keep sending

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: false, false, and false

2007-09-04 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 9/4/2007 10:36:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: there is no reasoning with you. It'll just go round and round forever. That's for sure! Thankfully, now and finally in Sept 2007, real patriots don't have to rely on White House and RNC

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Rev. Kev,... Help Me Out

2007-09-04 Thread Jersey Shore John
But Mario: They're over there fighting for FREEDOM. Unfortunately, it's just Iraqi freedom (and schools and infrastructure and universal healthcare) not ours, silly. Get with the program! On Sep 4, 2007, at 1:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/2007 11:56:42 A.M. Eastern

[AsburyPark] Long, Detailed, and Documented

2007-09-04 Thread Mario
One could say that among our citizens, those voters and non-voters who swallowed this without question bear much of the responsibility for what's happening today.Click here: Going After Gore, by Evgenia Peretz: Politics Power: vanityfair.com

[AsburyPark] Werner's Bail

2007-09-04 Thread Kevin Brown
Does anyone know if Werner has a bail amount set? Is anyone attempting to bail him out? How come there is nothing in the asbury park press about this? Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings:

[AsburyPark] Nancy Shields is working on the Werner Story

2007-09-04 Thread Kevin Brown
Facts, where are the facts? Werner should be bailed out! As you guys argue against Bush's handling of international affairs, you are letting a property owner be jailed for code violations! You have a problem! Proove your hearts by helping your neighbor. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit

Re: [AsburyPark] Werner's Bail

2007-09-04 Thread Allan Peterson
Not in the press becuase Asbury (not currently on the) Radio is on the story. - Original Message From: Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2007 1:44:21 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Werner's Bail Does anyone know if Werner has a bail

Re: [AsburyPark] No word about a surveillence system in this APP article

2007-09-04 Thread Allan Peterson
Hinge, In your last post you said that I was negative about JK in my post. I do not find this message to be negative. All I was suggesting was there was money and in the past there has been suggestions for use. I did not say JK was against this. Just not sure why this was viewed as

[AsburyPark] Re: No word about a surveillence system in this APP article

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
I wasn't talking about that post. I meant in general. You have always been very negative towards JK. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hinge, In your last post you said that I was negative about JK in my post. I do not find this message to be

[AsburyPark] 45 Days - No Bail

2007-09-04 Thread Kevin Brown
I just got off the phone with the County Jail. Werner was sentenced to 45 days. There is no bail attachment to his sentence. So now in Asbury, you can shoot someone as a gang member, get caught after spending tax payers resources to hunt you down, get arrested and be bailed out that evening.

[AsburyPark] probrum of vox est nunquam justicia!

2007-09-04 Thread jerseykev
Abuse of power is never justice! ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Re: [AsburyPark] 45 Days - No Bail

2007-09-04 Thread Allan Peterson
If true, this is said. While I do not know all the facts, does not seem fair - Original Message From: Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2007 2:45:16 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] 45 Days - No Bail I just got off the phone with the

[AsburyPark] Re: 45 Days - No Bail

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
I'll say. While we don't know all of the facts, it certainly sounds like the punishment doesn't equal the crime. I sincerely hope that Werner can have this case investigated further, including the phone call that got it all started. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL

[AsburyPark] Re: Nancy Shields is working on the Werner Story

2007-09-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Facts, where are the facts? Werner should be bailed out! As you guys argue against Bush's handling of international affairs, you are letting a property owner be jailed for code violations! You have a problem!

[AsburyPark] Re: Nancy Shields is working on the Werner Story

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
I'd like to go pay him a visit, but according to Maureen the hours are pretty difficult. There is a book i'd like to lend him called World's Fair by E.L. Doctrow that i'm sure he will love. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[AsburyPark] Re: 45 Days - No Bail

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
Here's the visitation schedule that I found on the internets; Persons registering for a visit must be at least 18 years of age with a government issued photo I.D. Each visitor may visit only one male and one female inmate each day. Inmates are allowed only 1 visit a day. Visitors must be 18

[AsburyPark] Re: Nancy Shields is working on the Werner Story

2007-09-04 Thread oakdorf
- I'd go with the beleif he is where is because of public presence. Technically I was arrested in Ocean Twp for failure to pay property taxes several years ago. It could of been because of a check bounced on the wrong account, but I covered it late...on principal. The date on the summons was

[AsburyPark] freewerner.com

2007-09-04 Thread oakdorf
Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change

[AsburyPark] Suspected gang member charged with murder of Asbury Park man

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 09/4/07 BY KAREN SUDOL FREEHOLD — An Asbury Park man accused of fatally shooting a 60-year-old grandfather last month made a first appearance in court this afternoon. Assistant Prosecutor Meghan Doyle informed 22-year-old Benjamin P. Fortune he was

[AsburyPark] Re: Suspected gang member charged with murder of Asbury Park man

2007-09-04 Thread oakdorf
- shooting, out on $50k bail. Then murder. Geez, what DON'T we know about WB that he CAN'T get bail??? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change

[AsburyPark] Re: Suspected gang member charged with murder of Asbury Park man

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
But no bail for Werner. Gee, what are they worried about, that he might speak out against the city? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - shooting, out on $50k bail. Then murder. Geez, what DON'T we know about WB that he CAN'T get bail??? Yahoo!

[AsburyPark] Re: Suspected gang member charged with murder of Asbury Park man

2007-09-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - shooting, out on $50k bail. Then murder. Geez, what DON'T we know about WB that he CAN'T get bail??? I don;t have all of the facts, so what I say now might be wrong. I am trying to get those facts and what if anything

[AsburyPark] Re: Nancy Shields is working on the Werner Story

2007-09-04 Thread Kevin Brown
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: Facts, where are the facts? Werner should be bailed out! As you guys argue against Bush's handling of international affairs, you are letting a

[AsburyPark] Release Werner Now!

2007-09-04 Thread jerseykev
Here is a great issue, we release criminals on bail, but we sentence code violators to serve 45 days. They could have given Werner an anklet, like they did with Paris Hilton. The people of Asbury park need to scream at the city father's to let Werner Out! I kicked it off with a Special

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Suspected gang member charged with murder of Asbury Park man

2007-09-04 Thread Gary Wien
Maybe the judge is proving the old adage that the pen is mightier than the sword. Violent criminals are apparently fine to remain on the streets, but vocal citizens should be locked up. Interesting theory. On Sep 4, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Hinge wrote: But no bail for Werner. Gee, what are

[AsburyPark] City Council Meetings Tomorrow Night

2007-09-04 Thread James Keady
Friends of Asbury Park: I am writing to inform you that the Asbury Park City Council will be meeting tomorrow night, Wednesday, September 5, 2007. The Executive Session begins at 4pm, however this is not open to the public. The Workshop Session begins at 6pm and the Regular Meeting begins at 7pm,

[AsburyPark] Werner

2007-09-04 Thread dfsavgny
I just sent this email to the city manager and the council. I suggest each of you who feel that the matter of Werner's incarceration should be looked into by the city contact the city manager and each council member repeatedly until it is resolved fairly. Gentlemen I appeal to your sense of

[AsburyPark] Re: 45 Days - No Bail

2007-09-04 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll say. While we don't know all of the facts, it certainly sounds like the punishment doesn't equal the crime. I sincerely hope that Werner can have this case investigated further, including the phone call that got it all

[AsburyPark] Re: City Council Meetings Tomorrow Night

2007-09-04 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, James Keady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friends of Asbury Park: I. Contract Negotiations . Litigation you say contract negotiations, is this city employees? c. Bercovitz McDonald Settlement can you explain, what this is , why is itis and what it is

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Suspected gang member charged with murder of Asbury Park...

2007-09-04 Thread MarioAPNJ
Thank you. Looking forward for more updates. Chilling that it's all so mysterious. In a message dated 9/4/2007 5:12:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: don;t have all of the facts, so what I say now might be wrong. I am trying to get those facts and what

[AsburyPark] Re: [CouncilmanKeady] City Council Meetings Tomorrow Night

2007-09-04 Thread jerseykev
Councilman Keady: It's going to hurt the image of The Park, where violent criminals are released from incarceration during time spans between arrest and trial and sentencing. Werner Baumgartner was sentenced to 45 days, for code violations, and not performing as ordered by Judge

Re: [AsburyPark] Release Werner Now!

2007-09-04 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 9/4/2007 5:22:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is a great issue, we release criminals on bail, but we sentence code violators to serve 45 days. They could have given Werner an anklet, like they did with Paris Hilton. The people of

[AsburyPark] Resoultion needed by Asbury City Council - Emergency Commuting of Sentence

2007-09-04 Thread jerseykev
I learned today that he is serving a sentence and that is why there is no bail. He can only be released by a Judge or a commuting of sentence by the local authorities and or the Governor. If you agree that he should be released than Call Asbury Park and ask them to pass a resolution at

[AsburyPark] Asbury historian gets 45 days in jail for contempt of court

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 09/4/07 BY NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU ASBURY PARK — Werner Baumgartner, an Asbury Park historian, is serving a 45-day sentence in the Monmouth County Jail in Freehold Township after Municipal Judge Mark T. Apostolou held Baumgartner in contempt

[AsburyPark] Re: Resoultion needed by Asbury City Council - Emergency Commuting of Sentence

2007-09-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I learned today that he is serving a sentence and that is why there is no bail. He can only be released by a Judge or a commuting of sentence by the local authorities and or the Governor. If you agree that he should be

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Resoultion needed by Asbury City Council - Emergency Commuting of Sentence

2007-09-04 Thread Gary Wien
On Sep 4, 2007, at 7:03 PM, dfsavgny wrote: Folks, no matter what your feelings Werner, it is obvious that something is way out of whack here That should be perfectly clear from having the Police check out a tip that Werner had a body in his basement. Things really can't get any

[AsburyPark] Re: Release Werner Now!

2007-09-04 Thread dapawprint
Kevin, Way to go! I have already told Maureen that I am willing to help. Free Werner! I have suggested Extreme Home Makeover to others. Let's mke it happen! Glenn . --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a great issue, we release criminals on bail, but we

[AsburyPark] Radio Nowhere

2007-09-04 Thread MarioAPNJ
Think Bruce might approve my changing a few of his lyrics? I just want some transparency. American right (for night) to speak out I just want to hear some Asbury Restore Radio I want a million different voices speaking out. (Forget the tongues)

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury historian gets 45 days in jail for contempt of court

2007-09-04 Thread asburycheech
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 09/4/07 BY NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU ASBURY PARK — Werner Baumgartner, an Asbury Park historian, is serving a 45-day sentence in the Monmouth County Jail in Freehold Township after Municipal Judge Mark T. Apostolou held Baumgartner in

[AsburyPark] Call Sean Kean - Free Werner Now!

2007-09-04 Thread Kevin Brown
We need Kean to intervien on behalf of property owners in the district. Can anyone organize a rally outside the county jail? If the local government gets away with this we are all bound to suffer by it. Who'se to say what is safe and what is not in a home. A small group of code officials,

[AsburyPark] Re: Prayer and Sacrifice

2007-09-04 Thread 2fine4u
Mario, I have photos of a soldier, hugging his box, from Monmouth/Ocean County, Blue Star Mothers and emails from him and his mother. They write: We didn't know that people like you existed! It makes whatever it took to see that smile, worth it! If someone tells me how, I'll post his picture,

[AsburyPark] Werner's Home makeover

2007-09-04 Thread oakdorf
Hey - I'd volunteer today to start working on his house a few hours here and there. Granted I have my own things to do, but we all do. somebody have a list of what needs to be done? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

[AsburyPark] Re:City Council Meetings Tomorrow Night

2007-09-04 Thread restore881FM
Jim - Thanks for posting the agendas each month. And I hate to reward you by laying this on you, but I have to ask what exemption permits the closed executive meeting on the waterfront matter? The plan has been passed into law and it has been amended twice that I know of. Since it is a public

[AsburyPark] Re: Nancy Shields is working on the Werner Story

2007-09-04 Thread 2fine4u
I believe you're right! I plan on NEVER going again! You're labeled a troublemaker! Look what happened to Rita and now The Wonder Bar! They pay you back for speaking out or speaking up! Don't know that I'll post too much here, also! The powers that be, read this group and if you're not on

[AsburyPark] Airman Photo

2007-09-04 Thread 2fine4u
New photo has been uploaded to this group. It's called Patriotic Pride. A thank you from a grateful airman, on receipt of his care package from the Blue Star Moms. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email

[AsburyPark] Re: Release Werner Now!

2007-09-04 Thread 2fine4u
I did view the webcast on electricnews.com and it was right on point, but, the broadcast also lambasts this group for various personal reasons. I don't know. I think we're a pretty good group. I've been involved for almost 3 years now, taken my lumps, fallen and got back up, but this is

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner's Home makeover

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
I'll voluneer too. Evenings and weekends. I can work a hammer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey - I'd volunteer today to start working on his house a few hours here and there. Granted I have my own things to do, but we all do. somebody have a list of

[AsburyPark] Re:Radio Nowhere

2007-09-04 Thread restore881FM
Mario- Thanks for listing those lyrics, my friend. Ashamed to say I've never heard the song before. But I feel strangely close to it. All best, Maureen Maureen Nevin Asbury Radio -The Radio Voice of Asbury Park -Silenced by the FCC, but why?? 88.1FM - 6 Years on the Air!! Would've been 7 this

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury historian gets 45 days in jail for contempt of court

2007-09-04 Thread restore881FM
I'd like to underscore what Frank has said in his posting re. the APP report and Dan in his postings, as well. Also, I just remarked to someone today that I can't figure out why Nancy Shields doesn't go into PR. She'd make a great public relations person for the city and/or waterfront

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner's Home makeover

2007-09-04 Thread Hinge
voluneer I sure suck sometimes when I type fast. Forgive me. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll voluneer too. Evenings and weekends. I can work a hammer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Hey - I'd volunteer today to start

Re: [AsburyPark] Re:Radio Nowhere

2007-09-04 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 9/4/2007 8:43:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mario-Thanks for listing those lyrics, my friend.Ashamed to say I've never heard the song before. But I feel strangely close to it.All best, Maureen There's no citation for this entry at Wiki, but I

[AsburyPark] Re: Release Werner Now!

2007-09-04 Thread Kevin Brown
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did view the webcast on electricnews.com and it was right on point, but, the broadcast also lambasts this group for various personal reasons. I don't know. I think we're a pretty good group. I've been involved for

[AsburyPark] Re: Long, Detailed, and Documented

2007-09-04 Thread 2fine4u
Mario, I got light-headed reading this! Hilarious, in a word! If the so-called 4th Estate had been REPORTING the news, instead of BEING the news and so wrapped up in celebrity, to keep from doing their JOB, we'd be in better shape than we are. There ARE people, who believe what they see on TV

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury historian gets 45 days in jail for contempt of court

2007-09-04 Thread Gary Wien
Way to go Tommy! Werner, we're all pulling for you. Hope you get out soon. On Sep 4, 2007, at 8:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, he is being represented now. Tommy DeSeno has taken his case. Tommy plans to file an appeal, then ask the judge for a stay of the sentence -- all

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury historian gets 45 days in jail for contempt of court

2007-09-04 Thread oakdorf
prostitutes get zero jail. So do city officials. partners in murder watch tv and think they can get a free car to testify. prosecutors ask for leniency for admitted felons, undermining the work of police and other invetigators. You have to respect the police for trying their best with little

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury historian gets 45 days in jail for contempt of court

2007-09-04 Thread 2fine4u
Thank You so much, for this post! S --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to underscore what Frank has said in his posting re. the APP report and Dan in his postings, as well. Also, I just remarked to someone today that I can't figure out why Nancy Shields

[AsburyPark] Werner on Electric News also on youtube.com

2007-09-04 Thread jerseykev
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gobJXj_DzE_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gobJXj_DzE) I added it to youtube.com I am sure if we promote this Werner will be out before the 45 days. Let's put aside all our differences and get Werner out of Jail. Tommy Deseno, I was hoping you would

[AsburyPark] Go Tommy

2007-09-04 Thread dfsavgny
Tommy, you get 5 free passes from me if you work your magic, and a beer anytime. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Release Werner Now!

2007-09-04 Thread 2fine4u
I stand by my statement. Priorities? Yours or ours? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: I did view the webcast on electricnews.com and it was right on point, but, the broadcast also

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Release Werner Now!

2007-09-04 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 9/4/2007 8:28:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did view the webcast on electricnews.com ...but, the broadcast also lambasts this group... I think we're a pretty good group. I've been involved for almost 3years now, taken my lumps, fallen

Re: [AsburyPark] Go Tommy

2007-09-04 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 9/4/2007 9:26:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tommy, you get 5 free passes from me if you work your magic, and a beer anytime. And I'll give on pass on that last H-word slip. Wonder Bar Deal is in effect again.

[AsburyPark] Re: Release Werner Now!

2007-09-04 Thread Kevin Brown
The best way to deal with this is by viewing it. Then they can comment by emailing the show, and I will deal with the emails tomorrow night and update the Werner issue. KB http://www.electricnews.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Chetrit and BCH

2007-09-04 Thread dfsavgny
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Re: [AsburyPark] Chetrit and BCH

2007-09-04 Thread MarioAPNJ
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[AsburyPark] Fwd: jerseykev sent you a video!

2007-09-04 Thread jerseykev
** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ---BeginMessage--- jerseykev wants to share a video with you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gobJXj_DzE Video Description The Asbury Park City Government sends a tax