The Group is about to be ruined again
Please folks, let's not let this happen.
Ok?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh I see my unauthorized biographer Mario is back.
The Group is about to be ruined again. This poor fellow Mario has a
strange
In a message dated 10/7/2007 11:31:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The Group is about to be ruined again.
The group is ruined at certain times by some known and some anonymous
members who practice trolling.
The following from Wiki and Urban dictionary.
“A
In a message dated 10/8/2007 1:25:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bull. You've done nothing but complain. You took a half hearted shot a
putting together a group for aging gays. You were certainly touting and
wearing
on your sleeve when you got your name in
Looks like I hit a nerve.
You write nearly 700 words, and not one is about you helping Asbury
Park.
You have no sense of public service. Zero.
Just keep complaining about us that roll up our sleeves and help.
(I'm sure you'll write another 700 words about me, when the subject
is about you,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh I see my unauthorized biographer Mario is back.
The Group is about to be ruined again. This poor fellow Mario has
a
strange obsession with me. He chronicals everything I say, write
and do, and tries (and
Yet she continues to socialize with him. You have to question
this apparent lack of judgment.
Mellina currently does not hold an office in Asbury Park, so I do not see the
lack of judegment. I don't belive they even own any property here.
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From: radio881gal [EMAIL
In a message dated 10/8/2007 9:20:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Looks like I hit a nerve.
Rather looks like I hit a nerve by pointing out the hypocrisy in your
accusing others what you've done numerous times in print.
You write nearly 700 words, and not one is
It looks like this has become a one-on-one discussion at this point.
Why don't you guys take it to email - or a dark alley - and fight it
out there.
How about another great weekend on the beach! Hard to believe it's
October but I'll take it. Let's talk about that - or anything that
She is personal friends with someone who made some terrible mistakes.
While I understand (and on some level share) the discomfort with that,
on another level I give her credit for being a loyal friend who
refuses to abandon someone just because she will be criticized for
maintaining the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Let's talk about that - or anything that
actually invovles Asbury Park
This is a very Asbury Park topic. You have a camp of complainers,
Mario being an exemplar, that can't name one time where they gave of
Tom, I haven't read all of these and don't plan to. But so that I
understand correctly your argument - Mario should not be able to be
critical of your statements and viewpoints because he does not
contribute as much to the community as you do?
I'm guessing that's not what you're trying to say
In a message dated 10/8/2007 9:20:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You have no sense of public service. Zero.
Just keep complaining about us that roll up our sleeves and help.
Partial list of people, trends and causes in AP which I support and have
publicly
AsburyCouple,
When Rook criticized the Mayor's Ball (a new topic started by him if
I recall), I simply, politely, asked him for his reasons why he
criticized it since it raises money to help Asbury kids. Note well:
I was even personlly mentioned in his post.
Rook didn't respond. Mario did.
Mario I asked you for a list of YOUR public service, and you list
the service of othes to whom you've said Nice job (aka kissed
their rears). So what?
What about YOU? Where have I seen you with your sleeves rolled up
and working as a volunteer in AP? What fundraisors have I seen you
In a message dated 10/8/2007 11:08:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AsburyCouple, When Rook criticized the Mayor's Ball (a new topic started by
him if
I recall), I simply, politely, asked him for his reasons why he criticized
it since it raises money to help
You know Tom, you do have a valid point. Likely because I so often
disagree with you on point of view I probably am quicker to be critical
of you than of Mario, others and even myself on tone and delivery. The
reality is I think far too many people on this board take liberty with
fact, making
Then maybe AsburyCouple will tell me what answer you gave in your
post. I have no time for your little riddle.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 10/8/2007 11:08:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AsburyCouple,
In a message dated 10/8/2007 11:14:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But you have the NERVE to criticise the good people who vounteer to
host and promoet the Mayors Ball, and give their hard earned money
to Asbury kids.
Don't attribute words to me I didn't
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
So in the fair and balanced spirit I'd again ask you both to
Respectfully, not good enough for me. You addressed me peronally, by
myself. Do it to him.
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Is it possible?
Could we all chill out and have intelligent conversations here?
It's ok to disagree, but let's all try and show a little restraint sometimes.
There is no need to always be right, or betteror whatever.
Thank you.
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In a message dated 10/8/2007 11:25:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Could we all chill out
In deference to Hinge, Asbury Couple, Werner, et al.
Chillin' is cool wit me. grin
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't criticize the ball or the people, just your hostility to
someone's
joking questions.
Bull. In response to the question of why criticize the Mayor's
Ball, you linked to the article about money from the lottery not
To quote a wise man:
Is it possible?
Could we all chill out and have intelligent conversations here?
It's ok to disagree, but let's all try and show a little restraint
sometimes.
There is no need to always be right, or betteror whatever.
Thank you.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,
Mario accuses people of stealing and for asking him why I'm supposed
to just get along?
Say somehting to him about his defamatory allegation, or is your
view that the board is OK for such statements?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
To quote a
Jack here's a polite, intelligent question for you:
What was Mario insinuating when, in response to the question of why
he Rook criticized the Mayor's Ball, he posted a link to a story
about lottery money not going to where it was intended?
(It certainly is an Asbury topic).
--- In
I will not single anybody out.
Nope.
Not gonna do it.
We all graduated high school many years ago. Let's not fall into the trap of
this he said/
she said nah nah nah nah na stuff. We are adults here.
We are all here because we love and care about Asbury Park. (at least I think
so)
We all need to
Same question to AsburyCouple or anyone else who want to answer as
to what Mario was ininuating when he posted that link.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jack here's a polite, intelligent question for you:
What was Mario insinuating when, in
Tom, as I stated in my earlier email I have not, and will not, read
through the massive trail of back and forth you both have been
subjecting everyone to. Please take it offline. Or don't.
Whatever.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mario accuses
I'm not going to get involved this time.
You guys obviously don't get along.
Why not try working together instead of against each other.
There's lots of smart people here, and when things deteriorate to petty
fighting, it doesn't
just make the parties involved mad, but it makes us all look bad
No one is asking you to read through anything. Just tell me what
you think he meant about he Mayor's Ball when he posted a link about
money not going where promised.
What do you think he meant?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Tom, as I stated in my
Hey Jack, the next time Mario writes one thousand words about me and
not a topic, let me see you take him to task for it.
I've always respected your wishes to end these things in the past,
but I won't allow someone to accuse me of a crime like he did. I
shouldn't have to take that, and you
In a message dated 10/8/2007 11:51:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What do you think he meant?
Anyone who's interested can find out at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
My last word here on this thread
** See
Damn.
I'm not a lawyer, or a mediator.
I'm a musician, audio engineer, adventurer and multimedia producer.
I will not take sides, you guys need to work this out, and maybe even think a
little further
and try and become friends instead of enemies.
Yes, we all have different view
Tommy,
The idea that Bruce was wrong on the radio station issue is up to
you. For me, he was dead on. The boycott was led by Clear Channel -
not individual radio station owners. Clear Channel owned the main
stations in just about every market in the country so no you really
couldn't
Gary there was no boycott by Clear Channel. Some of their local
stations boycotted, some didn't. The decision was made by the local
managers.
Michael Moore tried to float the idea that it was decided at
Corporate. As usual, he had no proof and was wrong.
Let me ask you though:
Assume
I have a different point of view.
Nobody is forced to listen to Bruce Springsteen or any artist.
Instead of letting the government or a broadcaster decide what they want people
to be
able to listen too, shouldn't the listener be the one making the choice?
I agree that porno, or racism, or
Jack I think the topic is a radio station having the right to pick
what music to play.
Don't you think they have that right? They own the station.
I understand they are licensed. So is a bar. The City doesn't tell
The Saint to pour Tanquerey or Beefeaters. Everyone would cry foul
if they
On Oct 5, 2007, at 10:35 AM, justifiedright wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
So in
your view famous people don't get the same rights as everyone
else?
People tune into Bruce to hear music, in which he excels. For him to
give political
Sorry, I didn't read far enough to get the whole topic.
I agree that a radio station has the right to chose and stick with a genre.
But, if a radio station refuses to play a song within it's genre because it
doesn't agree with
it's political message, I kinda have a problem with that, because
What ever happened to that guy who was a friend of the show who had his
driveway paved?
- Original Message
From: asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2007 10:22:49 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Kate's Weldon-
She is personal friends
Best post of the year!!!
Amen, Dan. This is what drives me crazy - when people move into an
area and then complain about things that were there first. Cookman
Ave could be an incredible place with music and dining mixing
together. As it stands, it looks as though it will always have
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No one is asking you to read through anything. Just tell me what
you think he meant about he Mayor's Ball when he posted a link about
money not going where promised.
What do you think he meant?
Yahoo!
From a Rolling Stone article on Aug 13, 2004 after the Dixie
Chicks situation:
Clear Channel controls roughly 1,200 radio stations and about seventy
percent of all live events that are promoted in the United States.
Critics say the company also has a political agenda, given Clear
Right on the money with that post Gary.
And sadly, many many people have no idea at all about the way Clear Channel
controls the
media.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From a Rolling Stone article on Aug 13, 2004 after the Dixie
Chicks situation:
Isn't there about 13,000 radio stations in America? I don't think
1200 puts you in control of all listening.
I think it puts you in control of about 8 or 9%.
If you consider that the local decide what gets played, there is no
control.
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Tom D.,
I will be direct.
1. Can you tell me last years' total dollar amount given to charity
from the Mayors' Ball.
The reason I ask is I'm curious if the amount of UEZ money or city
taxes needed to run the event was greater than the amount given to
charity.
My Mayors Ball thread started
BS Tommy. If the right wing complains about Left Leaning media
because of the NY Times, Washington Post and LA Times than I think
owning about 75% of the Top stations in every market is dangerous.
The other 25% are stations with many less listeners and far less
signal power.
Check the
So I'm bicycling around town the other day, listening to the local lefty
radio station, and I pedal out from under the signal. One minute Thom Hartmann
is there. The next minute he's gone, disappeared into a sea of static.
I own light bulbs with more wattage than that station
So it's
The amount of stations in America is insignificant because Clear Channel is in
charge of the
majority of high wattage stations. Those stations have the money to do plenty
of advertising.
A vast majority of Americans listen to the big, high wattage stations. I.E.
KROCK, WNEW etc.
And bear in
We have to figure out a way to give equal time to AP topics and world topics.
I don't know what the answer is.
Maybe we can think of one together.
Honestly, I have a hard time ignoring non-AP posts about topics i'm interested
in.
Thoughts please?
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Gary look closely at the part about the Dixie Chicks, and see what
their manager told Congress (Clear Channel got a bad rap for the
boycott of Dixie Chicks rumor).
Clear Channel Facts
MYTH: Clear Channel radio stations banned air-play of Madonna after
political comments.
FACT: According to
Topics that involve Bruce Springsteen deal with Asbury Park on a
certain level IMO since he has played such a major role and continues
to play a role in the city. I could see how people believe these
topics have nothing to do with AP, but I think most of them do on
some levels.
On Oct
Why don't you post the link that you got this googled info from?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gary look closely at the part about the Dixie Chicks, and see what
their manager told Congress (Clear Channel got a bad rap for the
boycott of Dixie
Front page, under the fold, today: Even adherents of the Italian
orthodoxy concede that little is known about the provenance of the Great
Navigator, who seems to have purposely obscured his past. What I
want to write is the final book on Columbus, and I will not be able to
do it without
Jack I'm sorry it's from their site. I thought that would be
understood from the content - maybe I was wrong:
http://www.clearchannel.com/Corporate/PressRelease.aspx?
PressReleaseID=1167p=hidden
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I agree, and the reason i'm asking is that better designed group message boards
contain a
series of catagories rather then one big group, such as this one.
I've worked as a moderator on a few message boards, and I find this one
singular catagory
to be frustrating because the user doesn't have
But don't you think that Clear Channel might be posting biased facts?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jack I'm sorry it's from their site. I thought that would be
understood from the content - maybe I was wrong:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom D.,
I will be direct.
1. Can you tell me last years' total dollar amount given to charity
from the Mayors' Ball.
Rook,
Don't u know by now NO one ever responds to the amoints given to charity and
how it is
When it comes to something like testimony in the Congressional Record,
I don't think they would lie about that/ It's too easy to check.
If the Dixie Chick's own manager said under oath that Clear Channel
got a bad rap on the boycott rumor, I can understand why Michael Moore
will cling to the
The power has been out from at least the AP circle down 66 to at least Rt 18.
So most of the
stores are closed and some genius at Shop-Rite didn't bother putting all the
refrigiration
there on generators nor the AC. So since around 10 am this monring, when we
lost power in
that area, the
Here's an example of what i'm talking about. It's an EZ board discussion group
about
Atlantic City;
http://p069.ezboard.com/batlanticcityone
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree, and the reason i'm asking is that better designed group message
boards
island of Ibiza, who says the explorer was a Catalan-speaking Ibizan
crypto-Jew,
Wow, imaging what it would be like if Columbus were a Jew??
Does it really matter?
He would up here and who really knows if this is really where he wanted to wind
up.
Back to Asbury - enjoy the rest of
In a message dated 10/8/2007 4:56:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Here's an example of what i'm talking about. It's an EZ board discussion
group about
Atlantic City;
Hinge, that's great! How do we get one?
Just a word of caution though; there's usually
Well, I would be happy to make one, and register a domain name for one so it
would be
easy to find. But first, what do the major posters here think?
Do we want one?
Would you join?
If so, let me know and i'll take charge and make it happen, but only if people
are
interested.
-H
--- In
In a message dated 10/8/2007 5:01:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wow, imaging what it would be like if Columbus were a Jew??
Does it really matter?
He would up here and who really knows if this is really where he wanted to
wind up.
Back to Asbury
OK
In a message dated 10/8/2007 5:07:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, I would be happy to make one, and register a domain name for one so it
would be
easy to find. But first, what do the major posters here think?
Do we want one?
Would you join?
Yes.
Magnificent Voyage of Christopher Columbus
Monday, October 8, 9:00pm
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I appreciate your point.
But, describing extortion as a mistake...
A surgeon slips with the scalpel - that's a mistake. Asking for a
bribe, how can that be interpreted as a mistake?
Maureen
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
She is personal friends with
I totally understand that feeling - and have bounced back and forth
on it myself. But if I had a really close friend who did that I'd
like to think that despite being very disappointed in them and their
actions I'd also have the guts to consider still being a friend.
Because your true
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lots of AP Press coverage today of Columbus Day parades in Seaside
and Long
Branch.
No mention of Asbury Park's landing. Why's that?
Nancy Shields came last year when there were rumors of some sort of
a showdown with
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It looks like this has become a one-on-one discussion at this point.
Why don't you guys take it to email - or a dark alley - and fight it
out there.
How about another great weekend on the beach! Hard to believe
A radio station is a business. You either apply for one or buy one. Either
method is very costly. The FCC regulates radio stations and has no control of
content.
Lefty's need to come up with the cash instead of whining. What ever did
happen to Air America?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not only has he not faced the consequences, but he manipulated the system, got
a cushy
job on the beach at Ocean Grove despite his so called health problems, and made
a
mockery of the criminal justice system.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I totally
No debating that.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not only has he not faced the consequences, but he manipulated the
system, got a cushy
job on the beach at Ocean Grove despite his so called health
problems, and made a
mockery of the criminal justice
You guys have re-ignited my interest. Good questions.
In a message dated 10/8/2007 4:51:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,
rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom D.,
I will be direct.
1. Can
Bruce Almighty
If rock is dead, nobody told the Boss.
* By Hugo Lindgren http://nymag.com/nymag/author_87
Springsteen in the seventies.
(Photo: Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
Amid the effusion of praise that greeted /Born to Run/ upon its release
in 1975, Nik Cohn
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