All,
I'm trying to understand how to do simple pagination--that is, return a
list of results or enter a page and only present the first X results.
Likewise, I'd like to be able to present the next set of results (from
x*2 to x*3), etc.
Thank you for any assistance/pointers.
Russ
Russ
I'm trying to understand how to do simple pagination
This is called a next-n interface. There are quite a few web resources on
this if you do a search.
Basically you need to do a CFQUERY... CACHEDWITHIN... to get the data
efficiently, then display it on the page using variables to keep
I'm looking at this Verity doc
http://www.verity.com/pdf/white_papers/MK0348a_Discovery_WP.pdf
and I like the look of the THESAURUS, TYPO and SOUNDEX evidence operators.
Are these available via CF? If not, what do I have to do to get them and
what does it cost?
Thanks
Nick
I totally disagree.. getting it 'connected' is the easy part. The actual
movement and animation (for which Flash is designed) is the difficult part.
Flash is one of those progs which you need to be [a] a good designer [b] a
good animator. If you are neither then stay clear of Flash or you will
Tried to install CFMX on a fresh development box at home and hit
problems. Posted the following to the Macromedia Forums but haven't had
any response so far. Any ideas? TIA
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The ColdFusion MX service isn't starting. I've read the numerous other
posts on this and have tried
Did you have a beta installed at some stage? Check the registry for the
keys which start the services and verify they are pointing to the correct
folder for the CF services.
N
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From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 09:43
To: CF-Talk
Sorry, I come back to the original thread problem : CFC scopes.
Here are some more details one CFCs scopes and UDFs.
When you excecute a CFMODULE, the only scopes still available in the
CFMODULE script are 'attributes' + request/url/form, so you have to
re-include UDF Lib.
Which means that UDF
I agree with you Raymond.
But it is true that is more personal preference/coding style terms than
performance/architecture terms.
This are my personal rules :
CUSTOM TAGS (ColdFusion Taglibs)
- custom tags encapsulates presentation logic they always output content
(usually HTML),
- custom tags
Whenever I right an SP I use..
CREATE PROCEDURE someSP
@somthing AS int,
@somethingelse AS varchar(50)
I don't know if not using the AS is ok or not but give it a go, see if it
fixes it
Ade
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From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL
Did you have a beta installed at some stage? Check the registry for
the
keys which start the services and verify they are pointing to the
correct
folder for the CF services.
It was a *completely* fresh install of everything, starting with wiping
the partition and reformatting with NTFS.
Yep, that is more than likely your problem. I know there are some issued
with the installer as well. it may be worth swinging my MM.com to check it
this is a documented one.
N
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From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 11:44
To: CF-Talk
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YOu can comment out the call to the stored procedure and then output all the
I guess it depends on what experience your bring to Flash as to what
is easy and what is hard. I've been doing digital video production for
years,
which involves creating timeline-based graphics animation, as well as some
3-D animation, so graphics creation is more natural for me.
When I first
I do not know if this may be the underlying cause of the error but I do know
that if sql is your database you cannot use timestamp as the datatype when
you are passing in a date time field. It has to be CF_SQL_DATE. There was
a disscusion about this on here last week but I think the person
I can relate to what you state but if all you are looking for is to create
new business models and rich clients via a Flash UI then maybe a different
approach is in order from MM. It seems a little overkill to use an
expensive app which has a certain purpose for something so trivial.
if you are
Benoit, thanks for the summary of your rules-of-thumb for CF modularisation.
I'll check out your site later. For now, could you clear up some terminology
for this no-CS-background designer-turned-coder? ;-)
I can hazard good guesses, but what do you mean by view, controller and
model layers?
I guess that exactly where I'm coming from.
I have little interest in Flash's animation capability.
But my browser/Internet-based application customers
have expressed confusion when I try to convert them from
software applications which utilize basically a one-page
interface to multiple-page
OK, I RTFM'ed and in Developing ColdFusion MX Applications with CFML I
find this:
THESAURUS Expands the search to include the word that you enter and its
synonyms. Collections do not have a thesaurus by default; to use this
feature you must build one.
SOUNDEX Expands the search to include the
They are available - you don't need to do anything special to use them -
you just use them. (Although I believe you have to use type=explicit
in your cfsearch tag.) I'm not sure what the cost to performance is -
most likely more than a simple search, but probably not bad.
Hi all,
I asked this last week with no response so thought I'd give it another go.
Does anyone know if there is a way of determining the filename of a
dynamically generated chart using cfchart (programmatically of course).
Basically I've set cfchart to cache to disk and want to be able to
FYI, info from the course outline. This MAY change before the course is
actually released...
Developing Rich Internet Applications with Macromedia Flash and
ColdFusion MX is a 3-day class designed to teach experienced ColdFusion
developers how to create powerful internet applications that take
Thanks Ray,
this does seem to be quite extensive and does teach the fundamentals of
Flash as well... excellent.
It does miss the point of Animation, but I suppose its out of scope.
- Neil
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From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002
Did you check to see if any of their customers are in the database twice?
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From: Gyrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:24 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMAIL problems
A client is reporting a problem where PDF bulletins being
Thing is - I can't imagine when I'd want to use animation when
developing Flash apps for web components. Maybe my view is too limited -
but I see myself using simple components and forms 99% of the time. I
can't imagine needing something flying across the screen. That's for the
black beret
rofl @ beret wearing art freaks...
When this class comes out, I am definitely THERE. Simon, is Branden
Hall teaching this one? Or is the info still fairly limited ?
TIA
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
The Children's Medical Center
One Children's Plaza
Dayton, OH 45404
937-641-4293
True, True, but maybe MM should have built or released an app / tool just
for this purpose. It doesnt make sense to use an app like Flash for
something so trivial, when HTML would suffice.
Surely thats the gain? If you use Flash you get all the bells and whistles
which eludes HTML etc
Hi, Ray, and thanks for the info.
Sounds like MM is address the potential that Flash has for
revolutionizing the way Internet-based apps are developed.
It will really bridge the gap between software-based apps and
browser-based apps. From my view...forget the animation.
Keeping the complication
I'm glad to see this is coming, but really wish that the info was
available online for me to work through on my own
here herethis is crucial.
N
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From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 14:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book,
I agree, Ray - I've had no use for Flash, even though I appreciate
some of the animation it's produced. It's been an interesting
*diversion* from the best uses of the Internet, and it's current
use on the 'Net testifies to that perspective. It's basically an
advertiser's tool...and advertisers
Trivial? Have you used DHTML lately? (grin). There are many things that
Flash can do that one could do in DHTML - however the fact that you have
99% less cross-platform headaches would make even simple stuff better in
Flash I think. I think Flash has more bells and whistles than just
animation.
Thanks for your interest in making Flash MX, especially AS,
accessible to the unwashed masses.
Well, I certainly can't take credit for any of this. There are some very
good people in our education department. In this case they wrote
something that is EXTREMELY dead on for the coders. Sorry if
C'mon! :-) you really cant be serious? you are trying to compare Flash to
DHTML?! Flash is an infinitely superior in everyway !!!
I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it linking to a DB
for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML and no I am not
anti
Would you say using Flash as an interface tool and CF as the back end
tool would force us to separate logic from presentation?
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
The Children's Medical Center
One Children's Plaza
Dayton, OH 45404
937-641-4293
http://www.childrensdayton.org
[EMAIL
Just read up on this thread. Glad to See MM are addressing the issue full
on, however I am wondering if they may also be addressing the issue of
training accomplished Flash Developers in the art of Application development
with CF?
The main problem which I have encountered is not in learning how
No, as a certain degree of 'logic' will have to be contained within the
movie itself.
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From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 14:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: New course to be offered by MACR
Would you say using Flash as an interface
I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it
linking to a DB
for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML
and no I am not
anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the
business benefit
(development time = cost) of using say Flash for things which
Thanks for the suggestion josh. I didn't think I had used any cf_sql_date
flags... I did a search and replace on wwwroot including subfolders just to
be sure and it didn't replace anything, so...
I do not know if this may be the underlying cause of the
error but I do know
that if sql is your
Less force and more encourage, I'd say.
--- Ben
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From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: New course to be offered by MACR
Would you say using Flash as an interface tool and CF as the back end
I still dont think its anywhere near what it needs to be.
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From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 14:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New course to be offered by MACR
Less force and more encourage, I'd say.
--- Ben
-Original
Figured it was a long shot, but I tried it -- no dice. Thanks for the
suggestion Ade,
Whenever I right an SP I use..
CREATE PROCEDURE someSP
somthing AS int,
somethingelse AS varchar(50)
I don't know if not using the AS is ok or not but give it
a go, see if it fixes it
Is there a known CF bug with flash graphics not updating correctly in these
browsers, with CFServer 4.5.1 ?
Tom Chiverton
You don't have to be a mad scientist to believe in ColdFusion
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Structure your ColdFusion code with
Yep, thanks Ray, and indeed what you are saying is that the path is defined
as you require it - if you need a DBA you source one etc..
I think Flash Remoting and Flash movies have a place in development (take
the Flash Expression Panel :-) but I think unless the need for having the
full version
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I am trying to get ColdFusion MX to run under a specifi user account. As
long as that user is a memeber of the
Thanks for the advice, Isaac. One other question, can you see any reason why
it would be bad to set all my application variables in application.cfm and
then use an if test to prevents further cfsets? What do you think of this
technique or are there better ones? My colleague and I are having
In our applications, we make use of cffile quite abit, and would like to
know what are the best CHMOD permission settings for the following examples.
Uploading and Deleting Images /site/images/site_images/ -- To the
site_images directory
Writing Files to /site/ !-- Deleting and writing files
Are these available with CF5 too, or are they new to MX?
will
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From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 13:29
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX
They are available - you don't need to do anything
Personally, I think that once this new paradigm of Flash Remoting
is known by the person with enough vision and skills, new interface tools
will
be created that will do what Flash does in DB connectivity without
the baggage that Flash brings from its beginning as a complicated
and work-intensive
I can hazard good guesses, but what do you mean by view, controller and
model layers?
Ooops... sorry.
It refers to the MVC pattern : Model View Controller.
- View : the presentation layer (there is usually a HTML-based view layer
generated by CFML pages),
- Controller : the application flow
They were in CF5 as well.
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From: Will
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it
linking to a DB
for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML
and no I am not
anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the
business
Ok... I know I can take HTML or other doc formats and automate the process
of converting them into PDF format. Does anyone know of a tool that can do
the reverse? I need to unpack a PDF page into source images and text.
Anyone?
-mk
If all you are doing is presenting data to the user with no
interaction,
then there is not much advantage to using Flash. However, if the users
interacts with that data in any way, then there are
advantages. Namely,
the fact that the entire page will not need to be refreshed to update
It's been a few years since I had to work with FDFs so forgive me if my info
is a bit off, but... my understanding is that you don't need to attach the
PDF, just the FDF. Note the line in the FDF that begins with /F. It
indicates a URL from where the PDF can be downloaded. What should happen
lovely...thanks Ray
w
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From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 15:18
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX
They were in CF5 as well.
If you are looking to do this manually, I like to use Adobe Illustrator to
change the PDF to EPS, save the images and then resize / output them in
Photoshop.
I have no idea of what tool you would use to automate this process.
M
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From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG
I am trying to get ColdFusion MX to run under a specific
user account. As long as that user is a memeber of the
administrator group, it seems to run fine. In CF5 you had
to set specific access rights on the registry and the file
system as described in KB 11859, however we cannot find out
Hey all,
Is there a simple SQL statement that would allow me to select all the
employees...or all the EmpIds that are NOT in the Master table..
So I have tblEmployees and tblMaster.
Basically I want to display all the bad bad people that did not enter
their time for a specific period...an
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Can anyone see what's wrong with this:
cfscript
If
so you are using an animation tool and doing no an animation? I may just be
a tad blinkered, but its like using IE to browser text files and not
HTML
doesnt make sense...
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From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 15:35
To: CF-Talk
I am getting an error when I try to alter an Access table in CF. Has anyone had
any success doing this?
Thanks,
Brian Yager
President - North AL Cold Fusion Users Group
http://www.nacfug.com
Sr. Systems Analyst
Sverdrup/CIC
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(256) 842-8342
Let me just say that I'm very excited about this class. My background is
interface design, but it's the code side that I want to sit down and learn.
A code-centric class will be extremely welcome. I'll be looking forward to
the announcement.
Animation vs programming is a non-issue. For web sites
Using the ghostscript you should be able to dump each page to a graphical
file format (of your choice).
To get the text - you can use the xpdf kit (which includes a pdftotext)
util.
But I don't think you can get to HTML easily though... :(
Adobe has such a service though:
Use a subquery:
CFQUERY Name=GetExceptions datasource=#DSN#
SELECT tblEmployees.EmpName, tblEmployees.DeptID
FROM tblEmployees
WHERE tblEmployees.ID NOT IN (
SELECT tblMaster.empid
And which line is line 67?
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Can anyone
Hi, Mike.
Your work sounds exactly like what I'm trying to make happen.
Any resources you would point me to, to get an Intermediate CF coder
familiar enough with Flash Remoting, especially ActionScript, to
create some one-page apps?
Rick
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From: Mike Chambers
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It's alright I've seen the error, it's been a very long day.
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Yes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/02 10:57AM
I am getting an error when I try to alter an Access table in CF. Has
anyone had
any success doing this?
Thanks,
Brian Yager
President - North AL Cold Fusion Users Group
http://www.nacfug.com
Sr. Systems Analyst
Sverdrup/CIC
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Below is the corrected code, you had a few extra (s in front of your
isdefined
cfscript
If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND IsDefined(Form.residents))
{
session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
}
Else If (NOT IsDefined(Form.residents) AND
IsDefined(Form.business_type)) {
I'm writing a form that allows a person to fill in the mileage and meal
expense, and then displays the total in a third field. I'm using this in
the meals expense field:
input type=Text name=CostOfMeals#Line# value=0 validate=float
required=Yes size=5 maxlength=5
use subquery.
either NOT IN or WHERE NOT EXISTS
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Angel Stewart wrote:
Hey all,
Is there a simple SQL statement that would allow me to select all the
employees...or all the EmpIds that are NOT in the Master table..
So I have tblEmployees and tblMaster.
Basically I
P.S.
Your if and else if should look like this.
if (not isdefined('form.business_types') and isdefined('form.residents'))
not like
if (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND (IsDefined(Form.residents))
You where closing your if statement and then trying to continue it, hope
that makes since.
: Can anyone see what's wrong with this:
:
: cfscript
: If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND
: (IsDefined(Form.residents)) {
: session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
: }
On the next line, you're closing the if clause and then
Neil, do you see any advantage to one-page data presentation and
maintenance interfaces as opposed to multiple-page interfaces?
Rick
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From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Flash
Dude... In your cfprocparam tag, you write this:
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=LibraryID
You should write:
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=@LibraryID
AFAIK, you need the @ symobol. Also, the word AS is unnecessary... You
don't need it for any variable declaration in a stored proc.
It could be that your if's are not using one bracket set for the entire
check..
i.e.
You haveif () AND () {
Try changing them to if (() AND ()) {
And see if that helps...
HTH
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From: Adams, Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002
Comment inline:
cfscript
If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND IsDefined(Form.residents)) {
// ( removed
session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
// Don't you need quotes around this yes?
}
Else {
If (NOT IsDefined(Form.residents)) AND
(IsDefined(Form.business_type)) {
// ( removed
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Thanks Bryan, it's working fine now.
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From: Bryan
thane,
it's trying to concatenate them instead of adding, try something like this(forcing the
values into numbers then adding them):
input type=Text name=CostOfMeals#Line# value=0 validate=float
required=Yes size=5 maxlength=5
onchange=
var num1=new
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From: Everett, Al [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Did you check to see if any of their customers are in the database twice?
---
Thanks for the idea, but no, there don't appear to be any duplicate customer
accounts in the DB. Still waiting for a peek at the
http://pdftohtml.sourceforge.net/
I haven't had a chance to try it, though.
--- Mark A. Kruger - CFG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Ok... I know I can take HTML or other doc formats
and automate the process
of converting them into PDF format. Does anyone
know of a tool that can do
the reverse?
It depends, yeah sure its 'cool', but do you really gain from using a flash
movie? sure, you get the movie in the browser window and you dont have to
reload the page persay - but you still have to load the information into the
movie and this effectively is your page load.
Multiple Page
onchange=window.document.ExpenseForm.TotalAmount#Line#.value=eval
(window.document.ExpenseForm.Mileage#Line#)+eval(window.document.
ExpenseForm.CostOfMeals#Line#);
Add .value to the end of the 2 fields you're trying to add, as in:
forgot the .values on the end of each var, that's why it was putting in [object],
should work now.
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From: Turetsky, Seth
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:19 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Adding two fields and displaying in a third
thane,
it's trying to
You didn't get the value, but the object:
input type=Text name=CostOfMeals#Line# value=0 validate=float
required=Yes size=5 maxlength=5
onchange=window.document.ExpenseForm.TotalAmount#Line#.value=eval(windo
w.document.ExpenseForm.Mileage#Line#.value)+eval(window.document.Expense
Oh and to add...you have a look at all the examples and SOTD etc.. and you
see how many are cool, and have aninamation etc (I woudl say 100%) this
is where the npower lies, but not everyone has this power.. funky and cool
sells apps, there is nothing wrong with that, but on a whole; its
Again, I've had good experiences with this technique...
Here's an example:
cflock scope=application type=readonly timeout=30
cfparam name=url.getappudf type=boolean
default=#yesnoformat(isdeinfed('application.udf'))#
cfif url.getappudfcfset request.udf =
If you have CFMX and .net apps running on the same server, is it possible to use the
K2 Verity engine on the .net apps, or does this require one to purchase and install
the K2 product?
Thanks,
Bruce
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Ray,
This is gonna get very verity focused.
In principle can I create my own 'locales' for use with my own file sets. In
effect I could copy the english locale, then create a new local called
'awkwardcustomer'. Reverse engineer the vdk20.syd (the english thesaurus
file) using
mksyd -locale
If all you are doing is presenting data to the user with no interaction,
then there is not much advantage to using Flash. However, if the users
interacts with that data in any way, then there are advantages. Namely,
the fact that the entire page will not need to be refreshed to update
the
Hi all,
I'm having this fun problem with a CFGRAPH tag in CF 5 that's driving
me a bit crazy this morning. My code is calculating the sales average
for the users' state vs. the national sales average for the same time
period, and assigning these to local variables named #salesAvg# and
Actually, I think it makes a lot of sense.
I just needed a form with side by side list boxes, make a selection in
one and the second is populated with selections that change based on
what was selected in the first. Try doing that simply and easily in HTML
(without screen refreshes).
Flash,
Hi, all. I'm afraid that this isn't the problem. The addresses are indeed
fully qualified. I have rewritten the CFLOCATION tag several times from
scratch to be sure I have no typos. I have cut and pasted the exact URL
string from the CFLOCATION url attribute to a browser's address bar (on the
Hi all,
I'm having this fun problem with a CFGRAPH tag in CF 5 that's driving
me a bit crazy this morning. My code is calculating the sales average
for the users' state vs. the national sales average for the same time
period, and assigning these to local variables named #salesAvg# and
All,
I've been doing Flash apps for a while now and I wanted to put
in a couple cents to this thread about my experience. I would like to
agree with Ray and Mike on a lot of their points. Flash does not
necessarily equal more time. It has a learning curve no doubt, but so
does
At 11:22 AM 9/30/02 -0400, Mosh Teitelbaum wrote:
onchange=window.document.ExpenseForm.TotalAmount#Line#.value=eval
(window.document.ExpenseForm.Mileage#Line#)+eval(window.document.
ExpenseForm.CostOfMeals#Line#);
Add .value to the end of the 2 fields you're trying to add, as in:
I need help tracking down an error in using CFOBJECT to create a csv file
from an excel spreadsheet.
I am using CF to open up an excel spreadsheet and then trying to turn the
data into a csv file. The code i'm using works fine the first time the
application is launched but on subsequent tries
Actually, I think it makes a lot of sense.
I just needed a form with side by side list boxes, make a selection in
one and the second is populated with selections that change based on
what was selected in the first. Try doing that simply and
easily in HTML
(without screen refreshes).
I'm trying to use a VC++ COM object that has some VARIANT_BOOL attributes
from ColdFusion via CFOBJECT. No matter what value I set the attribute to
(1, 1.0, -1, -1.0, 0, true), it's always FALSE. Double/Int/Float parameters
and methods work just fine.
Is this a variable typing/casting issue?
You've either got an extra ( before the 2nd IsDefined(form.residents) or
are missing a ) after it...
If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND
(IsDefined(Form.residents)) {
session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
OK then, will I get a super discount on Flash from MM - say 98% as I am only
going to use 2% of its features?
:-) nah, didnt think so..
N
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From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 16:38
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Flash for data views :
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