Route Summarization [7:62347]

2003-02-03 Thread Steven Aiello
Hello All, I have a question about route summarization. I was reading over the material from Cisco on the matter, I was wondering; or actually assuming. If you want to have route summarization in place to you need continuos network numbers? I know that the docs. said you would send

RE: Route Summarization [7:62347]

2003-02-03 Thread s vermill
Steven Aiello wrote: Hello All, I have a question about route summarization. I was reading over the material from Cisco on the matter, I was wondering; or actually assuming. If you want to have route summarization in place to you need continuos network numbers? I know

Re: Route Summarization [7:62347]

2003-02-03 Thread Kirankumar Patel
Steve The missing one if advertised with smaller block will take effect. Rgds, Kiran From: Steven Aiello Reply-To: Steven Aiello To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Route Summarization [7:62347] Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:15:20 GMT Hello All, I have a question about route summarization. I

Re: OSPF External Summarization Problem [7:50260]

2002-08-14 Thread Router Man
Why can't you use the summary-address on the ASBRs. Is there some restriction? Jay Greenberg wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello group, I seem to have a problem with OSPF external LSA summarization. I have an Ethernet segment in area 4. There are

Re: OSPF External Summarization Problem [7:50260]

2002-08-01 Thread Mark Turpin
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello group, I seem to have a problem with OSPF external LSA summarization. I have an Ethernet segment in area 4. There are 2 ASBRs (RAS Gear), and 1 ABR (the router connected to my backbone). Suppose for now, that ASBR1 is injecting 192.168.0.1/32 into OSPF as a

Re: OSPF External Summarization Problem [7:50260]

2002-08-01 Thread Jason Greenberg
rnal LSA summarization. I have an Ethernet segment in area 4. There are 2 ASBRs (RAS Gear), and 1 ABR (the router connected to my backbone). Suppose for now, that ASBR1 is injecting 192.168.0.1/32 into OSPF as an E2 LSA, and ASBR2 is injecting 192.168.0.128/25 into OSPF as an E2 LSA. I wo

Re: OSPF External Summarization Problem [7:50260]

2002-08-01 Thread Peter van Oene
, -Mark Jay Greenberg wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello group, I seem to have a problem with OSPF external LSA summarization. I have an Ethernet segment in area 4. There are 2 ASBRs (RAS Gear), and 1 ABR (the router connected to my

OSPF External Summarization Problem [7:50260]

2002-07-31 Thread Jay Greenberg
Hello group, I seem to have a problem with OSPF external LSA summarization. I have an Ethernet segment in area 4. There are 2 ASBRs (RAS Gear), and 1 ABR (the router connected to my backbone). Suppose for now, that ASBR1 is injecting 192.168.0.1/32 into OSPF as an E2 LSA, and ASBR2

RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-13 Thread Roberts, Larry
- From: Chuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367] ah, but that is old world classful thinking. as per RFC 1812, effectively there is no such thing as subnet zero any longer. per that RFC, all

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-13 Thread Chuck
on it, I suspect that even on Cisco tests, there would not be question about summarization where the subnet zero, all ones subnet count ( 2^n-2) would be the right answer. ( although I would not be surprised to see this in some of the study materials, given what I know about how quality control

RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-13 Thread Roberts, Larry
. 2^n-2, that only one of them would be available. Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: Chuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367] Larry, I'm only beating this dead horse

RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-12 Thread Roberts, Larry
Larry -Original Message- From: Dain Deutschman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 4:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367] Hey everyone, Thanks for all of your help. I have decided that 16 must be correct since

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-12 Thread Chuck
stuff to be removed from production. hhhm. a brief look through ARIN seems to indicate that assignments are not made out of subnet zero space but that is still a different question. a summarization produces a single route where several existed before. if you see a summary 192.1.0.0/16, why

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-10 Thread Dain Deutschman
learning resource. Thanks everyone. Dain. Dain Deutschman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm confused about a practice question for BSCN that I came across: Your routing tables are getting very large and you need to configure route summarization. How many

RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Carl Timm
For a Cisco test the actuall answer would be 14. Unfortunately, for us, they don't take subnet zero into consideration for tests. So, if you have that question on the test answer 14, for the real-world it's 16. In other words, the answer to the BSCN question is wrong. Carl Message Posted at:

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Kris Keen
I say 8. 2 to the power of 4 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48389t=48367 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Bob Timmons
Firstly, 2 to the power of 4 is 16 (2x2x2x2). Secondly, regarding Carl's post, would the answer be 14? I'm not sure the subnet-zero comes into play with CIDR. I was under the impression it was only relevant to subnetting as opposed to summarizing. Does anyone know for sure? I say 8. 2 to

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Michael L. Williams
Bob Timmons wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Secondly, regarding Carl's post, would the answer be 14? I'm not sure the subnet-zero comes into play with CIDR. I was under the impression it was only relevant to subnetting as opposed to summarizing. Does anyone

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Dain Deutschman
One of the choices in the question was 16but 14 was not a choice. Could it be that since 14 was not a choice that 8 was the closest thing since 16 is possibly wrong because of the 0 subnet? This seems a little off the wall to me butsometimes those cisco questions are off the wall. Dain.

RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Tim O'Brien
Of Bob Timmons Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367] Firstly, 2 to the power of 4 is 16 (2x2x2x2). Secondly, regarding Carl's post, would the answer be 14? I'm not sure the subnet-zero comes into play with CIDR. I

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Bob Timmons
If the choices are either 8 or 16, I'd definitely go with 16. 192.168.0.0/20 would be (for example): 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.15.254 Which is 16 total subnets. One of the choices in the question was 16but 14 was not a choice. Could it be that since 14 was not a choice that 8 was the

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Carl Timm
I was thinking of subnetting and not summarization, it was a little late. 16, not 14, is correct. Carl Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48405t=48367 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Michael Williams
Dain Deutschman wrote: One of the choices in the question was 16but 14 was not a choice. Could it be that since 14 was not a choice that 8 was the closest thing since 16 is possibly wrong because of the 0 subnet? This seems a little off the wall to me butsometimes those cisco

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Chuck
ah come on, guys, now you're all trying to outsmart yourselves. nothing in the RFC's regarding CIDR / summarization mentions a subnet zero why should it? that would defeat the purpose of CIDR/summarization. Dain Deutschman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Brad Nixon
Dain, Just out of curiosity, who was the author of the test question? When I was studying for my CCNP I ran into several poorly written questions and others, like this one, that were just plain wrong. Also, are the people that think that 2 to the power of 4 equals 8 the same people that write

RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-09 Thread Andy Hoang
] Subject: Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367] Wow. According to my binary math, 4 bits = 16 combinations. 1 bit = 2 combinations (2^1 = 2) 2 bits = 4 combinations (2^2 = 4) 3 bits = 8 combinations (2^3 = 8) 4 bits = 16 combinations (2^4 = 16) Now. when converting from binary

Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Dain Deutschman
I'm confused about a practice question for BSCN that I came across: Your routing tables are getting very large and you need to configure route summarization. How many class C internet addresses can you summarize with a /20 CIDR block? Answer: 8 Would it not be 16? Where am I going wrong

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Michael L. Williams
I would say 16 as well. Mike W. Dain Deutschman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm confused about a practice question for BSCN that I came across: Your routing tables are getting very large and you need to configure route summarization. How many

RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Charles D Hammonds
16 is the correct answer. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dain Deutschman Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Class C summarization question [7:48367] I'm confused about a practice question for BSCN that I

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Dain Deutschman
re route summarization. How many class C internet addresses can you summarize with a /20 CIDR block? Answer: 8 Would it not be 16? Where am I going wrong? -- Dain Deutschman CNA, MCP, CCNA Data Communications Manager New Star Sales and Service, Inc. Message Posted at: http://www.groups

RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Andy Hoang
I would say 8 is correct. 4 bits make 8 combinations. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367] I would say 16

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Dain Deutschman
-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367] I would say 16 as well. Mike W. Dain Deutschman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Michael L. Williams
charts and bitswapping charts instead of taking an hour and learning how binary actually works... geez) Mike W. - Original Message - From: Andy Hoang To: Michael L. Williams ; Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 PM Subject: RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367] I would say 8

Re: Class C summarization question [7:48367]

2002-07-08 Thread Dain Deutschman
08, 2002 10:51 PM Subject: RE: Class C summarization question [7:48367] I would say 8 is correct. 4 bits make 8 combinations. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:15 PM To: [EMAIL P

RE: OSPF inter-area summarization [7:44465]

2002-05-19 Thread Roberts, Larry
When specifying the summary address, you need to use the network address of the summarization The address you specified is within the summary, its just not the network address. Appling the mask against your address : 0010=32 1100=192 - 00xx=0 Remember 1's we care about, 0

Re: OSPF inter-area summarization [7:44465]

2002-05-19 Thread Michael Witte
for summarization? If we use this example: 172.20.8.0/22 1000 8 172.20.12.0/22 1100 12 ^Bit boundary=248 1000 248 1000 8 subnet 1000 248 mask 1000 8 subnet I think I see now.If you

RE: OSPF inter-area summarization [7:44465]

2002-05-19 Thread Roberts, Larry
If I follow what you are saying, then yes, whatever the AND'ing process of the subnet mask and the address space is what your summarization is. Just AND your subnet mask and network statement together. That will give you your summarization range. Case in point, 137.20.1.32 255.255.255.192

RE: OSPF inter-area summarization [7:44465]

2002-05-19 Thread Michael Witte
Great explaination. I just had issues with not being able to use my .32 network address but now I see why.I am taking the road to CCIE very carefully and try to understand exactly why things are the way they are. That is why I love working on the networking end of things; There is a definitive

OSPF inter-area summarization [7:44465]

2002-05-18 Thread Michael Witte
I am trying to do a lab that needs a inter-area ospf summary address configured I have two loopbacks 137.20.1.17/28 and 137.20.1.33/28. These are then of course on networks 137.20.1.16 and 137.20.1.32. Taking the last octet of the subnets into binary we have: 16= 0001 32= 0010 Acording

Re: OSPF inter-area summarization [7:44465]

2002-05-18 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
I am trying to do a lab that needs a inter-area ospf summary address configured I have two loopbacks 137.20.1.17/28 and 137.20.1.33/28. These are then of course on networks 137.20.1.16 and 137.20.1.32. Taking the last octet of the subnets into binary we have: 16= 0001 32= 0010

Re: OSPF inter-area summarization [7:44465]

2002-05-18 Thread Schwantz
Michal Witte Try using area 11 range 137.20.1.0 255.255.255.192 instead. Hope that works. Schwantz Michael Witte wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am trying to do a lab that needs a inter-area ospf summary address configured I have two loopbacks

OSPF summarization for supernet prefix - area0 [7:37739]

2002-03-09 Thread HUNG NGUYEN
Wonder if anyone has ever tried this senario: Router A run both OSPF and IGRP which redistribute into each other. Router R run IGRP with router A. The direct link between A (Ethernet 0) B (Ethernet 0) is /24 (172.16.100.0/24 -IGRP). On router A, there are a prefix with /22 mask which run

Re: OSPF summarization for supernet prefix - area0 [7:37739]

2002-03-09 Thread Steven A. Ridder
Create a static route on B which points all 172.16.200.0 traffic to A and eliminate the summary route on A. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. HUNG NGUYEN wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Wonder if anyone has ever tried this senario: Router A run both OSPF and IGRP which

Re: Summarization?? What's that? (bug report) [7:37093]

2002-03-02 Thread Nigel Taylor
#xtocid1 Nigel - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 12:30 AM Subject: Summarization?? What's that? (bug report) While attempting to summarize some prefixes in BGP I got the following: R3#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End

Re: Re: Summarization?? What's that? (bug report) [7:37094]

2002-03-02 Thread John Neiberger
- Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 12:30 AM Subject: Summarization?? What's that? (bug report) While attempting to summarize some prefixes in BGP I got the following: R3#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z

Re: Re: Summarization?? What's that? (bug report) [7:37096]

2002-03-02 Thread John Neiberger
, March 03, 2002 12:30 AM Subject: Summarization?? What's that? (bug report) While attempting to summarize some prefixes in BGP I got the following: R3#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. R3(config)#router bgp 2010 R3(config-router

NLSP Summarization [7:34326]

2002-02-04 Thread Richard Botham
Hi All, I am trying to get route sumarization working with NLSP. I have r1 that has networks as follows: Fa0/0 ipx net aaa1 Fa0/1 ipx net aaa2 I have enabled route-aggregation under NLSP but cannot figure out the acl to get only a summary of ' aaa ' advertised to r2 and not aaa1 and

RE: Summarization [7:32035]

2002-01-15 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler
. This is not the place to enforce network policy (ACLs, QOS, manual summarization, etc.). We all love the network 10.0.0.0/8; it gives us great freedom and allows networks to be built without concern for addressing efficiency. There are some downsides to this though and you've found one. You've been dealt

RE: Summarization [7:31766]

2002-01-14 Thread David j
Hello Ben, thanks for your detailed answer. I'm afraid I have no idea what happened but I'm think that it wasn't a problem with CPU unless summarization is a very intensive cpu process(I don't know if it is). We have a hub-and-spoke topology. Four 7500 (2 7513 and 2 7507) for backbone (ATM

Summarization [7:31766]

2002-01-13 Thread David j
summarization? David Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31766t=31766 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Summarization [7:31766]

2002-01-13 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler
all of the steps that you'd have to go through for a large-scale OSPF installation. Obviously, this thought is very wrong. I'm guessing that you need to do manual summarization on 200 interfaces per box is because you don't have clearly-defined summarization points in the network - that's

Re: OSPF Summarization [7:27639]

2001-11-28 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
in the routing table thus preventing the loops. Thats my understanding at any rate. Experts please advise if I am mistaken Luck to All Matt Smith - Original Message - From: Jaspreet Bhatia To: Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:51 PM Subject: OSPF Summarization While doing OSPF

Question : Summarization - Routing [7:25923]

2001-11-12 Thread Kang, Byeong Soo
Hi, When configuring summary address on eigrp or ospf, a static address for the summary address pointing to the null interface would be added (or I am talked to add the static address in ospf). I don't understand the reason of the static address. Any way to test the situation that shows the

RE: Question : Summarization - Routing [7:25923]

2001-11-12 Thread Blanco Lam
The reason for this null interface route is to prevent routing loops. For example, let's say there are two ASes: AS1 and AS2 AS1 - 10.0.0.0/24; 10.0.1.0/24; 10.0.0.0/23 summary route advertising to AS2 default route pointing to AS2 AS2 - 20.0.0.0/24; 20.0.1.0/24;

RE: Question : Summarization - Routing [7:25923]

2001-11-12 Thread Kang, Byeong Soo
Thank you very much. Very clear. -Original Message- From: Blanco Lam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question : Summarization - Routing [7:25923] The reason for this null interface route is to prevent routing loops

OSPF Route Summarization Trick Question [7:23771]

2001-10-22 Thread John Neiberger
Okay, this doesn't quite qualify as a trick question but I'm having trouble finding the answer. I hope it's not too obvious or I'll be embarrassed. :-) While working on one of the Fatkid's labs I see the following in the Hints sections: 3. There are two built in OSPF methods to summarize

Re: OSPF Route Summarization Trick Question [7:23771]

2001-10-22 Thread Jonathan Hays
Here's my guess. I've included the first two for clarity. 1. Inter-area route summarization with commands of the form area 1 range 10.1.2.0 255.255.224.0 2. External route summarization with commands of the form summary-address 10.1.2.0 225.255.224.0 3. Static route of the form ip

Re: OSPF Route Summarization Trick Question [7:23771]

2001-10-22 Thread John Neiberger
sort of incantation. Thanks, John Jonathan Hays 10/22/01 9:01:49 AM Here's my guess. I've included the first two for clarity. 1. Inter-area route summarization with commands of the form area 1 range 10.1.2.0 255.255.224.0 2. External route summarization with commands of the form

RE: OSPF Route Summarization Trick Question [7:23771]

2001-10-22 Thread John Neiberger
: OSPF Route Summarization Trick Question [7:23771] Okay, this doesn't quite qualify as a trick question but I'm having trouble finding the answer. I hope it's not too obvious or I'll be embarrassed. :-) While working on one of the Fatkid's labs I see the following in the Hints sections: 3

RE: OSPF Route Summarization Trick Question [7:23771]

2001-10-22 Thread Jim Dixon
- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OSPF Route Summarization Trick Question [7:23771] Yep, distribute-lists could work in conjuction with Jonathan's suggestion of redistributing a static route. I wanted

RE: OSPF Route Summarization Trick Question [7:23771]

2001-10-22 Thread John Neiberger
In this particular lab static routes were forbidden. It was an OSPF lab and one of the instructions was to configure summarization between areas. The Hints section was there to prompt us on different ways this might be accomplished. Since it's a training lab they're trying to make us think

RE: route summarization question [7:19970]

2001-09-14 Thread Chuck Larrieu
summarization is as follows: 172.21.136.0/24 and 172.21.143.0/24 can be summarized as: ?? We both came to the same conclusion: ^ 172.21.136.0 - 10101100.00010101.10001000. 172.21.143.0 - 10101100.00010101.1000.

RE: route summarization question [7:19970]

2001-09-14 Thread Chuck Larrieu
summarization question [7:19970] To determine whether the question you have is right or wrong, take 172.21.134.0 and apply the mask 255.255.248.0. What range of addresses does this mask give you? 172.21.128.0 through 172.21.135.255. Now does that represent the range of IP addresses you've been asked

RE: route summarization question [7:19970]

2001-09-14 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: route summarization question [7:19970] Cisco wrong? Perish the thought!!! ;- seeing as 134 is 1110, and is in no way relevant here, I would suggest that the lazy no good subcontractor that Cisco hired to write / proof / tech review / whatever is wrong

Re: route summarization question [7:19970]

2001-09-14 Thread EA Louie
cat's outta da bag now. but i'm sure your name will be there (Technical Editor, Chuck Larrieu, CCIE 82**) on the front of every text. ;-) -e- - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu To: Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:11 AM Subject: RE: route summarization question [7:19970

Re: Just how important is route summarization in t [7:14783]

2001-08-05 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
I do think I was misunderstood here. 1. Classless addressing is the worldwide standard no matter what Cisco says, and should be the default approach to address assignment. 2. Summarization/aggregation/supernetting should be used WHEN POSSIBLE, but controlled exceptions can

RE: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14947]

2001-08-05 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
but you can't make her think. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of GB Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 5:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14854] Just ignore him DJ, what he's trying

Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14948]

2001-08-05 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 11:51 PM 8/3/2001 -0400, nrf wrote: OK all - well, I'd like to wrap up my original post .For those who don't know, I was the person who originally started this post on summarization, and it has apparently taken a life of its own (I cringed when I first started this thread because I had

Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14953]

2001-08-05 Thread Michael L. Williams
wouldn't* want to summarize. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you have to implement summarization everywhere possible, but is there are specific downside to summarizing everywhere you can? Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=1495

RE: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14964]

2001-08-05 Thread Chuck Larrieu
in the case of a hub and spoke network, where implementing summarization on the spokes (or rather, advertising of summaries out the interfaces of the hub) yields extra configuration work with no real benefit? in a small network, no matter what the topology, where the number of routes is minimal

Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14745]

2001-08-03 Thread Michael L. Williams
She has a way of doing that =) Mike W. nrf wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Thank you Priscilla. You said it better than I ever could. I guess this is why you're a famous author and I'm not. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14745t=14745

Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14814]

2001-08-03 Thread nrf
My biggest problem with summarization so far: Ring-Ring-Ring - my cellphone goes off at 3AM, I'm rudely awakened and blearily reach for it: Hello? - I say weakly Hey boss, I'm on the office router, and I can't see all the routes!!! Well, that's probably because I summarized it, and you can

Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14841]

2001-08-03 Thread nrf
and you can't use summarization because only you, the delhi-lama and elvs could ever understand it. What does this have to do with the original question. Why don't you just type up a spread sheet and paste it on the side of the router, they will never know if the routes are summarized. Thi

Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14848]

2001-08-03 Thread nrf
As far as the summarization vs. supernetting thing - here goes. Summarization is a general idea where several more specific routes are coupled - aggregated if you will - into a less general route with a shorter subnet mask. This can be (but does not have to be) performed by supernetting , which

Re: Just how important is route summarization in t [7:14783]

2001-08-03 Thread Michael Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with you, Howard. All the best practices I have ever learned have stated that route summarization should be avoided, and, if not possible, at least minimized. I think unless you have a large network with multiple AS's, route summarization should only

RE: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14863]

2001-08-03 Thread Chuck Larrieu
Of GB Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 5:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14854] Just ignore him DJ, what he's trying to do is just retain his job security as head idiot. By telling his management that he is surrounded by a bunch

Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14868]

2001-08-03 Thread nrf
as possible from this guy... - Original Message - From: Donald B Johnson jr To: Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 2:38 PM Subject: Fw: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14842] I dont think this guy is stable. And it is still a moronic discussion. Who cares that he

RE: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14869]

2001-08-03 Thread Chuck Larrieu
Mike, yours is about the best message in this thread to use as a start point for some random thoughts. seems to me that there are architectures and network sizes that do and do not lend themselves to summarization. for example, in the typical small network hub and spoke setup, it's questionable

Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14835]

2001-08-03 Thread nrf
] Subject: Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14814] My biggest problem with summarization so far: Ring-Ring-Ring - my cellphone goes off at 3AM, I'm rudely awakened and blearily reach for it: Hello? - I say weakly Hey boss, I'm on the office router, and I can't see

Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14836]

2001-08-03 Thread Donald B Johnson jr
Its nothing but morons for a fifty mile radius from you, and you can't use summarization because only you, the delhi-lama and elvs could ever understand it. What does this have to do with the original question. Why don't you just type up a spread sheet and paste it on the side of the router

Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14629]

2001-08-02 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
are so unstable and then remedying it rather than engaging in summarization in order to mask the instability. But the summarization localizes the instability and speeds the time to find the links that are flapping. If I cut myself, and the wound stops bleeding, I am still likely to put a dressing

Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14622]

2001-08-02 Thread Geoff Zinderdine
out why your routes are so unstable and then remedying it rather than engaging in summarization in order to mask the instability. There is no question begged. You make it sound like summarization is being used as a method to deal with a crisis. It is most emphatically

Just how important is route summarization in typical enterprise [7:14628]

2001-08-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- nrf @groupstudy.com on 02/08/2001 02:42:45 pm Please respond to nrf Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Just how important is route summarization in typical enterprise [7:14601] Hey all. I'm going to risk starting a flame war

Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14632]

2001-08-02 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Hey all. I'm going to risk starting a flame war by asking the following: A bit more precision. You have to consider more than one kind of performance. One is route lookup in the fast forwarding path, and the other is changing the routing table (possibly in the same processor that does

Just how important is route summarization in typical enterprise [7:14601]

2001-08-01 Thread nrf
Hey all. I'm going to risk starting a flame war by asking the following: I've been struck by just how much importance Cisco courseware places on route summarization. For example, every student who goes through CCNP-level courseware learns about all the various kinds of summarization - OSPF

Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14612]

2001-08-01 Thread Geoff Zinderdine
gotten to the point that Cisco-trained personnel treat summarization like the holy grail, and they go around trying to use summarization techniques wherever they can. A network always benefits from the consistent application of design goals. Summarization scales well because of the architecture

Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14615]

2001-08-01 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Hey all. I'm going to risk starting a flame war by asking the following: I've been struck by just how much importance Cisco courseware places on route summarization. For example, every student who goes through CCNP-level courseware learns about all the various kinds of summarization - OSPF

Re: Just how important is route summarization in typical [7:14617]

2001-08-01 Thread nrf
are so unstable and then remedying it rather than engaging in summarization in order to mask the instability. Like I said previously, I completely agree that summarization is indeed very useful in large networks like NSP/ISP's or large enterprises (1000+ routes), for many reasons (better lookup

ospf summarization !! [7:9418]

2001-06-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- Jeongwoo Park @groupstudy.com on 22/06/2001 06:37:27 am Please respond to Jeongwoo Park Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: ospf summarization !! [7:9418] Hi all I know that we can summarize routes from non-backbone area to backbone area

ospf summarization !! [7:9418]

2001-06-21 Thread Jeongwoo Park
Hi all I know that we can summarize routes from non-backbone area to backbone area. But could we do the other way around? Jeongwoo JP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9418t=9418 -- FAQ, list archives, and

RE: OSPF summarization !! [7:9418]

2001-06-21 Thread Hire, Ejay
IIRC, stub areas only receive inter-area summary routes and default routes? -Ej -Original Message- From: Jeongwoo Park [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ospf summarization !! [7:9418] Hi all I know that we can summarize

Re: Generic Summarization Planning Question [7:2952]

2001-05-03 Thread EA Louie
geez, that's a lot of questions. my attempts at answers in-line - Original Message - From: Murphy, Brennan To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:48 PM Subject: Generic Summarization Planning Question [7:2952] I am curious about best practices concerning subnetting a class B address

Re: Route Summarization [7:1794]

2001-04-25 Thread Stephen Alston
. To me it looks like it should be 15. Thanks, Steve There's a widespread and unfortunate belief that summarization is OK if it includes a list of addresses, even if it picks up addresses not included in the list. True, you can probably get away with that in many enterprise situations, bu

RE: Route Summarization [7:1794]

2001-04-24 Thread Chuck Larrieu
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Route Summarization [7:1794] I want to summarize three addresses within an OSPF area: 10.2.1.0/24 10.2.2.0/24 10.2.3.0/24 Converting to binary, I see the 15th bit is the highest order bit the three addresses have in common. From that I see the summary address

Re: Route Summarization [7:1794]

2001-04-24 Thread Stephen Alston
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen Alston Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Route Summarization [7:1794] I want to summarize three addresses within an OSPF area: 10.2.1.0/24 10.2.2.0/24 10.2.3.0/24 Co

Re: Route Summarization [7:1794]

2001-04-24 Thread Ray Goyette
Actually, the 22nd bit is the highest common bit. 10.2.0001.0 10.2.0010.0 10.2.0011.0 The longest summary for this would be 10.2.0.0 /22 Summarizing the range 10.2.0.0 thru 10.2.3.255 Stephen Alston wrote: I want to summarize three addresses within an OSPF area: 10.2.1.0/24

Re: Route Summarization [7:1794]

2001-04-24 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
is 16bits. To me it looks like it should be 15. Thanks, Steve There's a widespread and unfortunate belief that summarization is OK if it includes a list of addresses, even if it picks up addresses not included in the list. True, you can probably get away with that in many enterprise situations

Route Summarization [7:1794]

2001-04-24 Thread Stephen Alston
I want to summarize three addresses within an OSPF area: 10.2.1.0/24 10.2.2.0/24 10.2.3.0/24 Converting to binary, I see the 15th bit is the highest order bit the three addresses have in common. From that I see the summary address is 10.2.0.0. What I don't understand is why the subnet mask is

Question regarding summarization and etc..

2001-03-13 Thread Almazi Rashid
hi all: I need to know 1.how to summarize 1.1.0.0/16,1.3.0.0/16,1.0.3.0/23 and 1.0.16.0/23 2.when troublrshooting a serial interface you encounter the statement loop-up on the interface ,what does this mean. Thanks in Advance. Almazi CCNP

Re: Question regarding summarization and etc..

2001-03-13 Thread Robert Padjen
Without summarizing space outside of these blocks you can't. Readdressing is the next best option. --- Almazi Rashid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all: I need to know 1.how to summarize 1.1.0.0/16,1.3.0.0/16,1.0.3.0/23 and 1.0.16.0/23 2.when troublrshooting a serial interface you encounter

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