Re: [Dri-devel] SiS DRI status

2003-09-03 Thread Eric Anholt
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 09:06, Keith Whitwell wrote: > Eric Anholt wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 03:47, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > > >>Am Samstag, 30. August 2003 00:02 schrieb Eric Anholt: > >> > >>>My current diff is at: > >>>http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/files/sis-14.diff > >>>

Re: [Dri-devel] CVS/BK/etc

2003-09-03 Thread José Fonseca
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:20:37AM +0100, Keith Whitwell wrote: > Larry McVoy wrote: > >Over time we have a plan to make this go away. The main reason that > >there have been license issues is that we had a goal to give the latest > >and greatest out for free, that's how we could help open source

Re: [Dri-devel] New gatos API: Crashes with radeon on driver change.

2003-09-03 Thread Mike Mestnik
--- Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 18:27, Mike Mestnik wrote: > > --- Michel Dnzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 18:43, Mike Mestnik wrote: > > > > I have something to add to this. Recently I tested gatos drivers going > > > > from dri t

Re: Sourceforge CVS, was Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread José Fonseca
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 06:21:32PM +0100, Keith Whitwell wrote: > Thomas Emmel wrote: > > > > >I would do so if I could download the source. > >CVS is currently unusable for normal users. > >Error is: > > > >cvs [server aborted]: cannot make directory KSC5601: No space left on > >device > > > >and

Re: [Dri-devel] rsync vs anon CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Eric Anholt
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 01:46, Keith Whitwell wrote: > Thomas Emmel wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 19:40, Martin Spott wrote: > > > >>Thomas Emmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>and this message means that the CVS-server is full. > >>>I think this was mentioned before two days ago. > >>

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Larry McVoy
I have offered to do this and the offer stands. However, if the reality is that nobody will use it I'm not going to bother, doing pointless work for free users is a bit past my threshold of pain. So does this mean there is or there is not interest? On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:14:48PM -0700, Jon S

[Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Larry McVoy
> I don't speak for anyone but myself. > > Which part of 'CVS isn't the problem' is so hard for you guys to > understand? Message received, I've unsubscribed from the list and won't bother you again. If you change your mind and decide we can help, let us know, happy to do so. If not, no worries,

[Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 05:27, Chris Ison wrote: > > DRI is still quite young and alot of people still have the "Screw you > Billy Goat" attitude, Like who? > to them FREE means no cost of any kind, I wonder how many times I'm gonna have to say I care about free speech, not free beer. > and th

[Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 17:40, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 05:21:04PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 17:11, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:59:43PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:57, Jon Smirl wrote: > > > > >

[Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 19:54, Jon Smirl wrote: > > I also wish Michel D would give BK a try before dismissing it on religious > grounds. My motivations aren't religious, in fact they're very pragmatic, and anyone who thinks he knows my motivations better than I do is sadly mistaken. -- Earthlin

[Dri-devel] [Bug 314] No 3D support for Radeon IGP chips

2003-09-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Dri-devel] [Bug 314] No 3D support for Radeon IGP chips

2003-09-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Dri-devel] [Bug 314] No 3D support for Radeon IGP chips

2003-09-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Dri-devel] [Bug 314] No 3D support for Radeon IGP chips

2003-09-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Re: Sourceforge CVS, was Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Morten Hustveit
> On Maw, 2003-09-02 at 19:42, Jon Smirl wrote: > > There are 31 people with write access to dri.sf.net. The simplest > > solution would be for those 31 to switch to BitKeeper. On Wednesday 03 September 2003 15:17, Alan Cox wrote: > Providing they don't have an employer or themselves work on anyth

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: DRI and Silicon Motion

2003-09-03 Thread Felix Kühling
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 14:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Alex Deucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is probably better asked on dri-devel (cc:ed). > > --- Cheshire Cat Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am investigating supporting DRI and OpenGL for the Silicon Motion > > driver. > > I'm new to both of tho

Re: [Dri-devel] rsync vs anon CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Whitwell
Keith Packard wrote: Around 9 o'clock on Sep 3, Keith Whitwell wrote: It seems like anon cvs is something that causes project-hosting sites some discomfort... freedesktop.org doesn't have it in place right now, for instance. Freedesktop doesn't have any "real" CVS running at the moment; we ne

[Dri-devel] Re: DRI and Silicon Motion

2003-09-03 Thread Alex Deucher
This is probably better asked on dri-devel (cc:ed). --- Cheshire Cat Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am investigating supporting DRI and OpenGL for the Silicon Motion > driver. > I'm new to both of those, so some of these may be newbie sounding > questions. > > 1) I have the OpenGL code from

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Chris Ison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DRI is still quite young and alot of people still have the "Screw you > Billy Goat" attitude, [...] Please remember that DRI is not Linux, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Adam K Kirchhoff
Well, earlier today (after about 5 days of absolutely *no* luck with the sourceforge CVS servers), I managed to pull the entire source tree for the Syllable operating system. When I tried to pull the DRI CVS, though, I kept hitting locked files... I made three attempts, over the period of about f

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Ville Syrjälä wrote: > > Isn't there some sort of delay involved here? I remember seeing something > about the kernel BK->CVS lagging by several days. If so moving to BK could > make the problem worse... The main delay we've seen is when the central BK places have gone down du

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Dieter Nützel
Am Mittwoch, 3. September 2003 20:35 schrieb Matt Sealey: > -- > Matt Sealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dieter Nützel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 03 September 2003 18:45 > > To: Matt Sealey; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourcefo

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Bryce as root
> > On Mer, 2003-09-03 at 11:15, Michel D=C3=A4nzer wrote: > > I'm all for it, if there's a solution for anonymous CVS. > > If need be I think linux.org.uk can field a secondary rsync'd=20 > anonymous CVS. It might need the 80Gb disks to be upped to 160/240Gb > but that needs to happen soon anywa

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Dieter Nützel
Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2003 05:27 schrieb Chris Ison: > Over the years, the core linux team has changes from fanatical hobbyists > to a coding production team with deadlines. A fair chunk of the team > seem to be from redhat who has a finacial interest in linux. Do not exaggerate. ODSL, Europ

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Ville Syrjälä
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:14:48PM -0700, Jon Smirl wrote: > Larry has offered to import DRI CVS into BK and then setup a BK to CVS bridge > at bkbits.net. This would mean that CVS is served from bkbits.net. He asks that > everyone give it a try and not just ignore it if he is going to go through t

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Alan Cox
On Mer, 2003-09-03 at 20:02, Brian Paul wrote: > With any luck, the CVS performance problems will soon be mitigated. and the disk space and the response time ? --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thin

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Jon Smirl
--- Keith Whitwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Primarily the difficulty of creating an automated two-way bridge between > them. > As I understood it, the BK->CVS gateway you've talked about is a one-way > affair, right? Larry has offered to import DRI CVS into BK and then setup a BK to CVS br

Re: [Dri-devel] Proposed DRI driver interface changes (all peopleinterested in pbuffers please read!)

2003-09-03 Thread Brian Paul
Ian Romanick wrote: I know that a lot of people in the community are very interested in seeing pbuffer support in DRI drivers. I've been quick to point out that pbuffers require fbconfigs. I've also been working to figure out how to enable fbconfig support in client-side drivers. For stand-al

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Brian Paul
Matt Sealey wrote: What exactly is the problem with Sourceforge anonymous CVS anyway? I heard that the problems were a temporary measure before they got new hardware to reduce the strain, but I never saw any updates or new news about it after that. From the 8/29 SourceForge newsletter: > [...] I

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Chris Ison wrote: > > > The philosophy has _never_ been "screw you Billy Goat". That's Sun and > > Oracle. > > lol, I expected this, I should of said the "older linux fanatics", as > linux was "sold" to me as a way to screw bill gates, and was the feeling > at the time of ma

RE: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Matt Sealey
What exactly is the problem with Sourceforge anonymous CVS anyway? I heard that the problems were a temporary measure before they got new hardware to reduce the strain, but I never saw any updates or new news about it after that. One thing I was thinking. Couldn't a developer with CVS SSH acces

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Chris Ison
> The philosophy has _never_ been "screw you Billy Goat". That's Sun and > Oracle. > lol, I expected this, I should of said the "older linux fanatics", as linux was "sold" to me as a way to screw bill gates, and was the feeling at the time of many of the users I associated with. Yes, at the ti

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Jon Smirl
--- Adam K Kirchhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can we please end this discussion about the BK license now? Or at least > take it off list? > > As for BitKeeper vs CVS (for the DRI), this is what it breaks down to: > > 1) The BK license possibly forbids at least one DRI developer from using

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Chris Ison wrote: > > Because of this the core of the linux team appear to be more concerned > about getting the job done due to the fact that some big money is > supporting and using linux. Although linux is FREE, its pholisiphy has > changed from one of "Screw you Billy Goat

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Dieter Nützel
Am Mittwoch, 3. September 2003 18:00 schrieb Matt Sealey: > > > Nothing whatsoever. But IMHO there's something wrong with people who > > > keep trying to shove non-free tools down everyone else's throats. > > > > The problem with that statement is that it implies that you speak for > > everyone, in

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: rsync vs anon CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Alan Cox wrote: > > Since I rsync from a CVS checkout all the cvs commands still work but go > back off to the CVS server saving a ton of bandwidth and cpu This only works if the CVS server itself is working well _anyway_. So yes, rsync in that sense can be used to (somewhat

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Chris Ison
Over the years, the core linux team has changes from fanatical hobbyists to a coding production team with deadlines. A fair chunk of the team seem to be from redhat who has a finacial interest in linux. Because of this the core of the linux team appear to be more concerned about getting the job do

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Chris Ison
Over the years, the core linux team has changes from fanatical hobbyists to a coding production team with deadlines. A fair chunk of the team seem to be from redhat who has a finacial interest in linux. Because of this the core of the linux team appear to be more concerned about getting the job do

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Adam K Kirchhoff
Can we please end this discussion about the BK license now? Or at least take it off list? As for BitKeeper vs CVS (for the DRI), this is what it breaks down to: 1) The BK license possibly forbids at least one DRI developer from using the free version of BK. 2) Other DRI developers have moral o

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Larry McVoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People claim that our license is a problem but the only real problem is > the people making the noise. [...] Things are getting ridiculous when you start to superimpose your attitude towards ethics on others - especially when you are obviously lacking the

Snapshots, was Re: [Dri-devel] Problems with MOHAA spearhead underwine on ATI 128.

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Whitwell
Ian Romanick wrote: Keith Whitwell wrote: Ian Romanick wrote: Who is building the binary snapshots these days? We need to start (and should have started a long time ago) including libGL.so in the snapshots. Hmm, we've tried to ensure up until now that the drivers would work with existing li

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Larry McVoy
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 06:05:08PM +0200, Dieter N?tzel wrote: > > If that's so, you are hurting the community > > over a licensing issue which doesn't effect anyone who doesn't want to > > be effected. Seems a tad extreme. > > Didn't licensing issues hurting the community enough in generall? I'

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Dieter Nützel
Am Mittwoch, 3. September 2003 17:40 schrieb Larry McVoy: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 05:21:04PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 17:11, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:59:43PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:57, Jon Smirl wrote: >

Re: [Dri-devel] Problems with MOHAA spearhead under wine on ATI 128.

2003-09-03 Thread Ian Romanick
Keith Whitwell wrote: Ian Romanick wrote: Who is building the binary snapshots these days? We need to start (and should have started a long time ago) including libGL.so in the snapshots. Hmm, we've tried to ensure up until now that the drivers would work with existing libGL.so's. What has cha

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Whitwell
Larry McVoy wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 04:29:12PM +0100, Keith Whitwell wrote: I'm not sure that anyone is asking you to use it. What's wrong with the people who want to use BK use BK and the people who want to use CVS use CVS? Primarily the difficulty of creating an automated two-way bridg

RE: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Matt Sealey
> > Nothing whatsoever. But IMHO there's something wrong with people who > > keep trying to shove non-free tools down everyone else's throats. > > The problem with that statement is that it implies that you speak for > everyone, in particular the people who have commit rights in the CVS > tree.

Re: [Dri-devel] Problems with MOHAA spearhead under wine on ATI 128.

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Whitwell
Ian Romanick wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Hello. In the future, please try to include line-breaks in your messages. It makes them *much* easier to read. Thanks. :) I am running xfree86 4.3.0 with the ATI 128 drivers from 2nd Sept. I am trying to run Medal of Honor Allied Assault

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Larry McVoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 02:17:19PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: >> On Maw, 2003-09-02 at 19:42, Jon Smirl wrote: >> > There are 31 people with write access to dri.sf.net. The simplest solution >> > would be for those 31 to switch to BitKeeper. > If thos 31 are OK

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Larry McVoy
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 04:29:12PM +0100, Keith Whitwell wrote: > >I'm not sure that anyone is asking you to use it. What's wrong with the > >people who want to use BK use BK and the people who want to use CVS use > >CVS? > > Primarily the difficulty of creating an automated two-way bridge betw

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Larry McVoy
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 05:21:04PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: > On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 17:11, Larry McVoy wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:59:43PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: > > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:57, Jon Smirl wrote: > > > > -- Michel Dnzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > >

Re: Sourceforge CVS, was Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Larry McVoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 02:17:19PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: >> On Maw, 2003-09-02 at 19:42, Jon Smirl wrote: >> > There are 31 people with write access to dri.sf.net. The simplest solution >> > would be for those 31 to switch to BitKeeper. > If thos 31 are O

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Whitwell
Larry McVoy wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:59:43PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:57, Jon Smirl wrote: -- Michel Dnzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been using both for a year and BK is simply much better than CVS. I know bk is the best version control system in th

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Whitwell
Larry McVoy wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:59:43PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:57, Jon Smirl wrote: -- Michel Dnzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been using both for a year and BK is simply much better than CVS. I know bk is the best version control system in th

Re: [Dri-devel] Problems with MOHAA spearhead under wine on ATI 128.

2003-09-03 Thread Ian Romanick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Hello. In the future, please try to include line-breaks in your messages. It makes them *much* easier to read. Thanks. :) I am running xfree86 4.3.0 with the ATI 128 drivers from 2nd Sept. I am trying to run Medal of Honor Allied Assault with the Spearhead expa

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 17:11, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:59:43PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:57, Jon Smirl wrote: > > > -- Michel Dnzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I have been using both for a year and BK is simply much better than CVS.

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Larry McVoy
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:59:43PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:57, Jon Smirl wrote: > > -- Michel Dnzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have been using both for a year and BK is simply much better than CVS. > > I know bk is the best version control system in the

Re: Sourceforge CVS, was Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Larry McVoy
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 02:17:19PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > On Maw, 2003-09-02 at 19:42, Jon Smirl wrote: > > There are 31 people with write access to dri.sf.net. The simplest solution > > would be for those 31 to switch to BitKeeper. If thos 31 are OK with that then it's easy, we can do a BK to

[Dri-devel] [Bug 314] No 3D support for Radeon IGP chips

2003-09-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
Please do not reply to this email: if you want to comment on the bug, go to the URL shown below and enter your comments there. http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-09 10:37 --- Strange, I had deleted "exp

Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Thomas Emmel
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 15:31, Dieter Nützel wrote: > I can second that. > > Have you tried demos/stex3d e.g. move the window to the right side of your > desktop? > Yes I have now and it looks really similar. The ring is broken on several positions. But the object I see in my application is alway

Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Thomas Emmel
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 15:12, Keith Whitwell wrote: > After looking at your png's, it's not so clear that we know the problem well > enough for you to go ahead with this, so don't worry about it at this point. > > Can you give me backtraces from the NO_TCL crash? > Program received signal SIGFPE,

Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Dieter Nützel
Am Mittwoch, 3. September 2003 15:11 schrieb Thomas Emmel: > On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 13:53, Keith Whitwell wrote: > > Hmm, after looking at your screenshots, this seems like a seperate, > > unrelated problem. > > > > What happens if you set the following environment variables: > > > > R200_NO_VTX

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: rsync vs anon CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Alan Cox
> I did not meant to replace everything via rsync. I use it for > several purposes, mostly backup and it is a great tool but not > really able to handle a repository. The point is only the speed Ditto. I use rsync for all the big pulls and sync ups. Since I rsync from a CVS checkout all the cvs co

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Alan Cox
On Mer, 2003-09-03 at 11:15, Michel Dänzer wrote: > I'm all for it, if there's a solution for anonymous CVS. If need be I think linux.org.uk can field a secondary rsync'd anonymous CVS. It might need the 80Gb disks to be upped to 160/240Gb but that needs to happen soon anyway -

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Alan Cox
On Mer, 2003-09-03 at 11:15, Michel Dänzer wrote: > I'm all for it, if there's a solution for anonymous CVS. If need be I think linux.org.uk can field a secondary rsync'd anonymous CVS. It might need the 80Gb disks to be upped to 160/240Gb but that needs to happen soon anyway -

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 02:06:23PM +0100, Keith Whitwell wrote: > Havoc Pennington wrote: > >On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:57:30PM +0100, Dave Airlie wrote: > > > >>Havoc, your comment on pserver being like telnet isn't really applicable, > >>anon only pserver is as secure as any anon only service, I

Re: Sourceforge CVS, was Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Alan Cox
On Maw, 2003-09-02 at 19:42, Jon Smirl wrote: > There are 31 people with write access to dri.sf.net. The simplest solution > would be for those 31 to switch to BitKeeper. Providing they don't have an employer or themselves work on anything which forbids them using it (eg a version control system)

[Dri-devel] Re: anon cvs mirrors

2003-09-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 13:58, Keith Whitwell wrote: > > I'm not really familiar with who the anoncvs mirrors are, how they work, or > why they're able to provide effective anon cvs when sourceforge can't... I think the main problem with sf.net is that we have to share it with tons of mostly unrel

Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Whitwell
Thomas Emmel wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 13:53, Keith Whitwell wrote: Hmm, after looking at your screenshots, this seems like a seperate, unrelated problem. What happens if you set the following environment variables: R200_NO_VTXFMT=t R200_NO_TCL=t Keith R200_NO_VTXFMT=t does

Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Thomas Emmel
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 13:53, Keith Whitwell wrote: > Hmm, after looking at your screenshots, this seems like a seperate, unrelated > problem. > > What happens if you set the following environment variables: > > R200_NO_VTXFMT=t > R200_NO_TCL=t > > Keith R200_NO_VTXFMT=t does nothin

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Whitwell
Havoc Pennington wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:57:30PM +0100, Dave Airlie wrote: Havoc, your comment on pserver being like telnet isn't really applicable, anon only pserver is as secure as any anon only service, I wouldn't even think about using non-anon pserver but I don't think DRI will eve

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:57:30PM +0100, Dave Airlie wrote: > Havoc, your comment on pserver being like telnet isn't really applicable, > anon only pserver is as secure as any anon only service, I wouldn't even > think about using non-anon pserver but I don't think DRI will ever need > such a thi

[Dri-devel] [Bug 314] No 3D support for Radeon IGP chips

2003-09-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
Please do not reply to this email: if you want to comment on the bug, go to the URL shown below and enter your comments there. http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-09 08:06 --- Did you run "make depend"?

anon cvs mirrors, was Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Re: Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Whitwell
Havoc Pennington wrote: Hi, I'm not sure freedesktop.org can host anoncvs, though it's possible we could for DRI. I know GNOME, KDE, Mozilla, and other huge projects' anoncvs would require more load than freedesktop.org server can handle. DRI anoncvs traffic may be smaller. However, we do plan to

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Dave Airlie
> > > dri.freedesktop.org sound good? > > > > I love the idea of moving to freedesktop.org right now to deal with the > > anonymous cvs issue, provide cvsup, and probably a more responsive set > > of admins. Is there consensus on this? > > I'm all for it, if there's a solution for anonymous CVS.

Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Whitwell
Thomas Emmel wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 11:12, Thomas Emmel wrote: Back to my problem... On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 17:24, Keith Whitwell wrote: Is it correct that your application is using 1-dimensional textures and vertex arrays? This is a little-exercised aspect of the driver, but it shouldn't

Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Whitwell
Thomas Emmel wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 11:12, Thomas Emmel wrote: Back to my problem... On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 17:24, Keith Whitwell wrote: Is it correct that your application is using 1-dimensional textures and vertex arrays? This is a little-exercised aspect of the driver, but it shouldn't

Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Keith Whitwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: >> I'm running a quite up-to-date mirror in Germany - currently without public >> access, but we could change this. Though this mirror suffers from absence of >> the SF server too > What sort of a mirror, Martin? I did a daily

[Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:57, Jon Smirl wrote: > -- Michel Dnzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have been using both for a year and BK is simply much better than CVS. I know bk is the best version control system in the universe feature-wise, no need to say it again. And again. And again. (And

[Dri-devel] Re: Re: Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Havoc Pennington
Hi, I'm not sure freedesktop.org can host anoncvs, though it's possible we could for DRI. I know GNOME, KDE, Mozilla, and other huge projects' anoncvs would require more load than freedesktop.org server can handle. DRI anoncvs traffic may be smaller. However, we do plan to have anoncvs mirrors o

[Dri-devel] Re: CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Ian Romanick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CVSROOT: /cvsroot/dri > Module name: xc > Repository: xc/xc/lib/GL/glx/ > Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/02 14:47:24 > Log message: > Fixed a typo that caused problems linking (but not running) > applications. Thanks a lot - I was

Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Whitwell
Martin Spott wrote: Thomas Emmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and this message means that the CVS-server is full. I think this was mentioned before two days ago. Some days before I had the problem that the download hangs in xc/xc/util/patch infinitely. Now I tried to download completely from scrat

[Dri-devel] Re: Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 00:53, Eric Anholt wrote: > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 16:42, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > > > dri.freedesktop.org sound good? > > I love the idea of moving to freedesktop.org right now to deal with the > anonymous cvs issue, provide cvsup, and probably a more responsive set > of ad

[Dri-devel] Problems with MOHAA spearhead under wine on ATI 128.

2003-09-03 Thread dri-devel . sourceforge
Hello I'm not sure that you will be too interested in this problem, but here goes... I am running xfree86 4.3.0 with the ATI 128 drivers from 2nd Sept. I am trying to run Medal of Honor Allied Assault with the Spearhead expansion pack under the August wine drop. If I disable hardware opengl t

Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Thomas Emmel
Back to my problem... On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 17:24, Keith Whitwell wrote: > Is it correct that your application is using 1-dimensional textures and vertex > arrays? This is a little-exercised aspect of the driver, but it shouldn't too > hard to fix up. I'll try and rig up something here that ex

Re: mirror, was e: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Thomas Emmel wrote: > > Thanks a lot for your help. I have already loaded it via rsync from > jose's mirror. Approx. 10 times faster than CVS... rsync from jose has made it at least _possible_ to follow DRI development. However... It's really a sucky thing to use. It means t

[Dri-devel] Re: rsync vs anon CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Thomas Emmel
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 10:46, Keith Whitwell wrote: > > > > Thanks a lot for your help. I have already loaded it via rsync from > > jose's mirror. Approx. 10 times faster than CVS... > > > > It seems like anon cvs is something that causes project-hosting sites some > discomfort... freedesktop.o

[Dri-devel] rsync vs anon CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Whitwell
Thomas Emmel wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 19:40, Martin Spott wrote: Thomas Emmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and this message means that the CVS-server is full. I think this was mentioned before two days ago. Some days before I had the problem that the download hangs in xc/xc/util/patch infinit

Re: [Dri-devel] CVS/BK/etc

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Whitwell
Larry McVoy wrote: From: Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Sourceforge CVS, was Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Jon Smirl wrote: Having used CVS and BitKeeper, BitKeeper is way better. I will just add a big "Amen, Brother!" to that.

Re: mirror, was e: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Thomas Emmel
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 19:40, Martin Spott wrote: > Thomas Emmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > and this message means that the CVS-server is full. > > I think this was mentioned before two days ago. > > Some days before I had the problem that the download hangs in > > xc/xc/util/patch infinitel

[Dri-devel] [Bug 314] No 3D support for Radeon IGP chips

2003-09-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
Please do not reply to this email: if you want to comment on the bug, go to the URL shown below and enter your comments there. http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-09 03:23 --- Hey Everyone, I have tried