[e-gold-list] Re: likely that msgs in spends are not the answer for GE

2001-06-21 Thread Mark S. Ohberg
>Please state, tell me, type!, how I would reach, even, 10% of all >active e-gold users, to give them their grand. What's the method of >ANNOUNCEMENT for that? The method of announcement is: Producing robust "opt in", permission marketing campaigns built around newsletters.__ Build your pro

[e-gold-list] Re: Amazon

2001-06-21 Thread Ben Legume
>> >> I think the article is here >> >> http://www.skolnicksreport.com/hoodwink.html >> >> it's the 2nd last paragraph. >Everybody be sure to read (or at least skim) the rest of his web site. The only thing missing are UFO abductions, black helicopters and credible sources. Yes, UFOs and black

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Bugs vs the Masses (was egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips)

2001-06-21 Thread Jeff Fitzmyers
Don't forget that the USD has costs in the form of inflation (currently running ~25% per year). I have lost 0.5% of my gold so far this year but will lose ~12% of my USD worth as the inflation winds its way thought the economy. Vince Callaway wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Paul Ewing wrote: > [sn

[e-gold-list] Re: it is likely that messages in spends are not the answer for General Electric

2001-06-21 Thread Andrew McMeikan
Since it is impossible to *make* some one read a message (mail filters always evolve) never mind act on it, the best that can be done is to *buy* attention. If you offer enough money to e-gold users you will get your moneys worth of attention. I suggest someone sets up a big list where everyone

[e-gold-list] Re: it is likely that messages in spends are not the answer for General Electric

2001-06-21 Thread Craig Spencer
JP, > >> I didn't get one percent "response", I was able to establish (through > >> careful checking) that only one person even happened to see the > >> ("secret') message. > > > >I was going to ask how you got that info. How did you "check"? > > "I" "sent" "emails" How were you were able to s

[e-gold-list] The Biggest List of Exchange Services

2001-06-21 Thread SnowDog
I don't think anyone has a bigger list than we do of E-gold, Standard Reserve, and GoldMoney, Exchange Services: http://www.golddirectory.com/e-gold.htm SnowDog --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] Re: it is unlikely that essages in spends are not the answer for General Electric

2001-06-21 Thread SnowDog
> >You were crowing about how wonderful 0.7% response would be. You are > >reporting that you tried this and got OVER 1% response! If you already > >knew how to reach all e-gold account holders and get what you yourself > >proclaim a marvelous response why were you asking for a solution to a > >

[e-gold-list] Fwd: Answer to your question concerning payment for Gold

2001-06-21 Thread Tristan Petersen
Begin Forwarded Message Subject: Answer to your question concerning payment for Gold From: Bill Nelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Tristan Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am sorry it has taken so long to answer your initial question. We do not accept e-gold as payme

[e-gold-list] Re: ahh! now it's clear

2001-06-21 Thread Bob
Viking Coder wrote: > Does anybody say 'Our service isn't being used enough, we > need to start accepting advertising.' I never heard anybody say that. But just because nobody says it does not make it a false statement. Bob --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To

[e-gold-list] Re: New E-Gold SPAM - Payment System

2001-06-21 Thread SnowDog
> Leave e-gold alone! Let it be a currency I think one of the best arguments, (maybe the only argument against implementing a non-invasive pay-for-spam function), is that e-gold, in the past, has had problems dealing with large increases in payment volume. Until they implement a system whereby a

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold is, and will remain, mom and pop.

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I doubt > > >4) Some large vendor starts to support e-gold > > > > will happen while the sole business model is: > > "your new e-gold related venture can ... reach > everyone on the e-gold mailing list!!!" > Q. How do ordinary people find out abou

[e-gold-list] e-gold is, and will remain, mom and pop.

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > >> >I think you have it back assward there. What e-gold should do is say >> >"hey, currently were excellently suited to cottage industries - and >> >small web vendors are a vast market in aggregate. Lets push e-gold as >> >the ultimate way to run a mom-and-pop shop!"

[e-gold-list] Memo

2001-06-21 Thread twpmarket
"Spent Widely Sent Securely Took e-Gold Became Sold" Copyright TWP Marketing 2001 I considered adding the additional line: "Burma Shave" but... Dave --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] it is likely that messages in spends are not the answer for General Electric

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Quite simply, how many people do you think look at those comments? >> >> The answer is a dismal amount .. it's a non starter. > >Just like banner adds. > You're confusing "look at" with "do something about". As I explained in the previous email, everyone "looks at

[e-gold-list] not the last word apparently

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>Viking Coder wrote: >> >> [...]Everybody >> keeps saying how powerful the gold economy will be several years from now, >> and then coming up with schemes to make it pre-maturely happen today. > >Agreed, it's a bad idea to rush adoption speed - you need a minimum >number of *working* *trusted* sit

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold is mom and pop.

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >I think you have it back assward there. What e-gold should do is say > >"hey, currently were excellently suited to cottage industries - and > >small web vendors are a vast market in aggregate. Lets push e-gold as > >the ultimate way to run a mom-and-pop shop!" > >

[e-gold-list] Re: it is unlikely that essages in spends are not the answer for General Electric

2001-06-21 Thread Craig Spencer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Quite simply, how many people do you think look at those comments? > > The answer is a dismal amount .. it's a non starter. Just like banner adds. > Your REACH is the number of people that look at it .. your number of > impressions. > > Basically "no-one" looks at

[e-gold-list] Re: turn 'em off!

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
Viking Coder wrote: > > [...]Everybody > keeps saying how powerful the gold economy will be several years from now, > and then coming up with schemes to make it pre-maturely happen today. Agreed, it's a bad idea to rush adoption speed - you need a minimum number of *working* *trusted* sites taki

[e-gold-list] e-gold is mom and pop.

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> I am just saying "there exists no non-cottage-industry EREs". >> >> Hence, e-gold should say "since e-gold is currently only used for >> HYIPs (let's call a spade a spade) and a couple of novelty sites, and >> we really want some non-cottage-industry egold related e

[e-gold-list] Re: turn 'em off!

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> I think you have it back assward there. What e-gold should do is say > "hey, currently were excellently suited to cottage industries - and > small web vendors are a vast market in aggregate. Lets push e-gold as > the ultimate way to run a mom-and-pop shop!" Yes. The only companies willing to ac

[e-gold-list] it is unlikely that essages in spends are not the answer for General Electric

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>> >Autospend 1 mg to each user in numeric sequence and put your message >> >in the memo field. >> >> Good idea, but I tried it already. >> >> I used a pool of known e-gold accounts to test how many people would >> read the message. Only one did out of ~ 80 tests. > >You asked for a way to reach

[e-gold-list] Re: default is "off"

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>> Sure, you would have no interest in knowing that etrade now take >> egold, or that walmart.com now takes egold, or that Sprint just >> decided to let you pay by egold. > >I, and the rest of the world, would very quickly find out if some >MegaCorp, like Sprint, started accepting e-gold. Do you t

[e-gold-list] Re: turn 'em off!

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am just saying "there exists no non-cottage-industry EREs". > > Hence, e-gold should say "since e-gold is currently only used for > HYIPs (let's call a spade a spade) and a couple of novelty sites, and > we really want some non-cottage-industry egold related enterp

[e-gold-list] turn 'em off!

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>Because an intelligent discussion doesn't center around people just >screaming "YOUR IDEA SUCKS! TPPHHHH!!!" - "YEAH? WELL, WHAT DO YOU >KNOW?" back and forth at each other. > :) fair enough .. >> {It seems like a non-starter - we all hate adverts and wish there >> were none on TV, maga

[e-gold-list] Re: default is "off"

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> Sure, you would have no interest in knowing that etrade now take > egold, or that walmart.com now takes egold, or that Sprint just > decided to let you pay by egold. I, and the rest of the world, would very quickly find out if some MegaCorp, like Sprint, started accepting e-gold. Do you think

[e-gold-list] i tried it already ... it doesn't work.

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Good idea, but I tried it already. >> >> I used a pool of known e-gold accounts to test how many people would >> read the message. Only one did out of ~ 80 tests. >> >> Next? > >One in eighty is a droolable return rate on blind spam. no no ... you don't understand

[e-gold-list] Dave talks sense

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
Dave, I appreciate your cogent message. However, consider this: >Banner ads don't work I don't agree and many people don't agree. I've found they work very well. Big businesses can be built around them. >annoying to established accounts. I'm all for an "off" switch if anyone doesn't want

[e-gold-list] 15 lines of perl

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>Actually, I was thinking it would be more elaborate than that: It would be a >special function that could be accessed by anyone wishing to use it, but the >payments would be made ONLY to those whose 'value limit' was reached by the >sender and they would be able to send an email with much more in

[e-gold-list] fair enough

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>I want e-gold to remain a currency, plain and simple. I don't want them to >turn into some sort of ad house/paid-to-read program. Let e-gold ltd. do >what it does best, be a accounting system for it's private digital >currency. That's fair enough -- but that means that "non-cottage industries"

[e-gold-list] Re: clever

2001-06-21 Thread Craig Spencer
> >Autospend 1 mg to each user in numeric sequence and put your message > >in the memo field. > > Good idea, but I tried it already. > > I used a pool of known e-gold accounts to test how many people would > read the message. Only one did out of ~ 80 tests. You asked for a way to reach e-gold

[e-gold-list] magnificent idea

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>If you went this route -- to allow 'Spam Spends' -- then a category could be >set-up by E-Gold for such a spend, which WOULD be broadcast simultaneously >to each receiver through their e-mail address, BUT E-Gold would have to >allow each receiver the option of charging a business to send this typ

[e-gold-list] default is "off"

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>> On the other hand, making people pay to avoid being spammed by some >> official list will just annoy the hell out of them, and make them switch >> to GoldMoney. > >Being forced to dig around in the acct pages just to turn off that >'convenience' would also annoy the hell out of people. A new us

[e-gold-list] Re: What'd I win?

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> > A goldfish. Delivery will cost 1Kg gold. :) > > Don't kid, there are probably Koi carp worth that much... Yeah, silver koi are nice. One of my very good friends had her's cooked and served by her (soon-to-be-ex) boyfriend to some other girl he was entertaining. > The advantage of this is t

[e-gold-list] Re: ahh! now it's clear

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> Is your view that > > YOU DONT LIKE / HATE ADS ON THE SPEND PAGE? Put consisely, yes. > Why the fuck didn't you say so dude? Because an intelligent discussion doesn't center around people just screaming "YOUR IDEA SUCKS! TPPHHHH!!!" - "YEAH? WELL, WHAT DO YOU KNOW?" back and forth

[e-gold-list] (this discussion is totally ridiculous)

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>> 100% of people do *not* use US Dollars. 100% of people in the US use US dollars hence if you pay to reach 10 million people in the US, you reach 10 million US Dollar users. >Furthermore, in order to >> buy on the >> Internet, So these people *really* need to use a >> credit card com

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
Viking Coder wrote: > > > > There are two ways that a program like this could be implemented. > > > [...] > > > > There are other ways. The simplest: > > > > [x] notify me by email for spends worth more than [1] [USD] > > [ ] do not let me recieve any spend worth less than [__0.1] [USD] >

[e-gold-list] Re: Spamming E-Gold accounts.

2001-06-21 Thread Craig Spencer
Julian Morrison wrote: > > So, e-gold, howsabout a "notify me when I get paid" toggle in the user > options? Interestingly, I suggested this for other commercial reasons some time ago. Namely, as an alternative to the SCI for merchants and/or customers that prefer not to use it. If I recall co

[e-gold-list] Re: clever

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Good idea, but I tried it already. > > I used a pool of known e-gold accounts to test how many people would > read the message. Only one did out of ~ 80 tests. > > Next? One in eighty is a droolable return rate on blind spam. --- You are currently subscribed to e

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread Craig Spencer
Steve Foerster wrote: > > JP wrote: > > < kilogram gold reward to anyone who can state how to reach e-gold users. > State it.>> > > Autospend 1 mg to each user in numeric sequence and put your message > in the memo field. JP, I think you owe the man 50kg. CCS --- You are currently subscri

[e-gold-list] Re: New E-Gold SPAM - Payment System

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> It already is vulnerable to push spamming. Which I don't see a problem with. If somebody wants to try to contact in the memo field, they are pretty desperate to get ahold of me. There is no guarantee that I'll check my account and notice the few extra tenths of milligram. > I agree with you t

[e-gold-list] Re: What'd I win?

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
Viking Coder wrote: > > > Oo, oo, what'd I win? :-D > > A goldfish. Delivery will cost 1Kg gold. :) Don't kid, there are probably Koi carp worth that much... > > The problem that sparked this whole discussion is that it's trivial to > > *push* money into people's accounts without their permiss

[e-gold-list] clever

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>JP wrote: > >State it.>> > >Autospend 1 mg to each user in numeric sequence and put your message >in the memo field. Good idea, but I tried it already. I used a pool of known e-gold accounts to test how many people would

[e-gold-list] ahh! now it's clear

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>Then create a TV ad, take out full page ads in the major newspapers of the >world, or put banner ads up on DoubleClick/Yahoo/etc. Leave the spend page >clean of advertising. > Ah, Viking --- your (unprecedented) utter lack of logic (you'll be talking about global warming next!) is now explaine

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> > There are two ways that a program like this could be implemented. > > [...] > > There are other ways. The simplest: > > [x] notify me by email for spends worth more than [1] [USD] > [ ] do not let me recieve any spend worth less than [__0.1] [USD] You're talking about something comple

[e-gold-list] Re: New E-Gold SPAM - Payment System

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
SnowDog wrote: > > > I want e-gold to remain a currency, plain and simple. I don't want them to > > turn into some sort of ad house/paid-to-read program. Let e-gold ltd. do > > what it does best, be a accounting system for it's private digital > > currency. > > I think you're missing the point a

[e-gold-list] Re: What'd I win?

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> Oo, oo, what'd I win? :-D A goldfish. Delivery will cost 1Kg gold. :) > > The consumer gets a method of spending over the internet that doesn't > > leave them wide open for fraud. Their account can only accessed if they > > allow it. Read one of my other posts before responding to that last >

[e-gold-list] Re: New E-Gold SPAM - Payment System

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
Viking Coder wrote: > > Leave e-gold alone! Let it be a currency It already is vulnerable to push spamming. All of my suggestions at least are simply ways to moderate this vulnerability, although some others have suggested expanding the vulnerability, which I disagree with. I agree with you t

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
Viking Coder wrote: > > > giving businesses the option to SPAM E-Gold's Email Addresses > > Am I the only one who doesn't want e-gold to officially turn into yet > another place to receive SPAM from? > > There are two ways that a program like this could be implemented. > [...] There are other

[e-gold-list] Re: New E-Gold SPAM - Payment System

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> I think you're missing the point a little bit. No. I am not. I completely understand what is being proposed. > implent a new function which will give businesses the option of spamming > the entire e-gold list of email addresses by PAYING the receivers to > receive their email messages! Thi

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> giving businesses the option to SPAM E-Gold's Email Addresses Am I the only one who doesn't want e-gold to officially turn into yet another place to receive SPAM from? There are two ways that a program like this could be implemented. A one-time payment for an account holder's email address.

[e-gold-list] What'd I win?

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
Viking Coder wrote: > > > If they want a halfass currency with elastic attached, which they can > > jerk back out of the merchant's hands post facto, then the *merchants* > > will be quite justified in telling them to take a running jump, once > > they see an alternative is available. > > DING,

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001.

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
SnowDog wrote: > > > Spam their *accounts* - an importat distinction; everyone gets it, not > > everyone gets emailed about it. The others will still see it in theor > > statements, if they bother reading them. > > Actually, I was thinking it would be more elaborate than that: It would be a > sp

[e-gold-list] User settable minimum spend?

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
Here's another thought. For those who're appalled by the idea of spamdonations and the fact that it's currently unstoppable, here's another thought: egold could let you lock down how much minimum you're willing to recieve in each of the metal types, anything above the absolute floor which is e-gol

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001.

2001-06-21 Thread SnowDog
> Spam their *accounts* - an importat distinction; everyone gets it, not > everyone gets emailed about it. The others will still see it in theor > statements, if they bother reading them. Actually, I was thinking it would be more elaborate than that: It would be a special function that could be

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001.

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
SnowDog wrote: > > > Only trouble wth this is that the ad people are blinded to the amount > > they need to spend. Perhaps another of those nifty graphs of > > accounts-by-mass? > > > > So for e-gold what they should do is > > > > - allow email notifies of spends along with the memo > > - allow t

[e-gold-list] New E-Gold SPAM - Payment System

2001-06-21 Thread SnowDog
> I want e-gold to remain a currency, plain and simple. I don't want them to > turn into some sort of ad house/paid-to-read program. Let e-gold ltd. do > what it does best, be a accounting system for it's private digital > currency. I think you're missing the point a little bit. I think what we'r

[e-gold-list] Notifications

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
Viking Coder wrote: > > > So it's offered as an option in the setup screens, "notify me if > > somebody pays me", and the default is "don't". Spends will still go onto > > the statements, they just won't result in users recieving emails. > > That still requires e-gold to spend time & resources o

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> If they want a halfass currency with elastic attached, which they can > jerk back out of the merchant's hands post facto, then the *merchants* > will be quite justified in telling them to take a running jump, once > they see an alternative is available. DING, DING, DING!!! We have a winner! Th

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread SnowDog
> Only trouble wth this is that the ad people are blinded to the amount > they need to spend. Perhaps another of those nifty graphs of > accounts-by-mass? > > So for e-gold what they should do is > > - allow email notifies of spends along with the memo > - allow turning it off or setting a minimum

[e-gold-list] Re: Suggestion

2001-06-21 Thread Michael Moore
> >After reading that "e-gold is a shit currency for scams and hyips" about > four hundred times I am starting to believe it because I am being > *subconsciously forced* to believe as such! > > Eric Gaither, President Very true Eric.Time we changed to a more positive note. If it was

[e-gold-list] Re: ad banner chat

2001-06-21 Thread Vince Callaway
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Paul Ewing wrote: > spent $300 > Averaged 2,950 banner impressions/day > Averaged 26 click-throughs/day > One maybe two sub $40 sales Doing beter than me. >From 5/1 to 6/1 on a major search engine: 4507 impressions. 72 clicks. I have started polling customers when I do veri

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> So it's offered as an option in the setup screens, "notify me if > somebody pays me", and the default is "don't". Spends will still go onto > the statements, they just won't result in users recieving emails. That still requires e-gold to spend time & resources on making e-gold a better get-paid

[e-gold-list] Suggestion

2001-06-21 Thread Eric J. Gaither
Hello, I keep reading this all day long in my Outlook Express inbox: "Re: [e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips" Now, I realize this is the subject heading that one person put in and multiple people are just clicking "reply" to send a reply and therefore carrying t

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
SnowDog wrote: > > > > All who want e-gold to be turned into a get-paid-to-read-mail program, > > > please raise your hand. > > > > With the idea of spamdonations being out there now and trivial to > > implement, I see little way to prevent it. > > I think everyone would go for it, if they could

[e-gold-list] Re: ad banner chat

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 15:56, Paul Ewing wrote: > Search engines and word-of-mouth have done much, much better than > banners for me. Not only for you... Claude http://www.goldcurrencies.ca http://www.ormetal.com == Claude Cormier Public Key http://www.ormetal.c

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 22:25, PowerClicks wrote: > So how much do you dump? $100, $1000, $1, more? You are assuming > everyone is bullish on gold. Long term... being bullish on gold is the only thing that make sense. > Apart from exchange risk, to use it as a > money store you need the "trust"

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread SnowDog
> > All who want e-gold to be turned into a get-paid-to-read-mail program, > > please raise your hand. > > With the idea of spamdonations being out there now and trivial to > implement, I see little way to prevent it. I think everyone would go for it, if they could choose the amount of gold that

[e-gold-list] Re: ad banner chat

2001-06-21 Thread Paul Ewing
At 07:59 PM 6/21/2001 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>You ran 100,000 ads for bananagold on the e-gold spend page. If your >>banner was in a moderately heavy rotation (1/4 of all ads), it would take >>16-50 days to run completely through. With a 0.7% clickthrough, you would >>receive 700 clickth

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread PowerClicks
> So you dump in a wodge of money and use it in small amounts until you > need to refill. And it's useful as a money store and a means to > speculate on gold as well. Hardly rocket science. So how much do you dump? $100, $1000, $1, more? You are assuming everyone is bullish on gold. Apart f

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
Paul Ewing wrote: > > > > True, but with egold you are placing all the extra cost and all the > > > risks in the hand of the consumer. > > > >When you underdstand that the greater risk and costs is not with > > >gold and gold currencies, but with national currencies that are > >constantly debase

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
Viking Coder wrote: > > Being forced to dig around in the acct pages just to turn off that > 'convenience' would also annoy the hell out of people. So it's offered as an option in the setup screens, "notify me if somebody pays me", and the default is "don't". Spends will still go onto the statem

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Bugs vs the Masses (was egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips)

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
>So you dump in a wodge of money and use it in small amounts >until you need to refill. On 21 Jun 2001, at 15:35, Paul Ewing wrote: > How many people do this? Especially people new to the system? Many do accumulate gold currencies to spend them at later date. I have many customers on my GAP

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Bugs vs the Masses (was egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips)

2001-06-21 Thread Vince Callaway
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Paul Ewing wrote: [snip] > It doesn't look good as a money store. You pay 1% to keep the account and > then hope that the price of gold doesn't drop reducing your account > value. Your money store has to work extra hard to just keep up with [/snip] I will let all of you

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> When dealing with reputable merchant, the risk is almost non- > existant. You also don't have to worry about the merchant doing multiple spends, or a spend greater than what you authorized, out of your account. You also don't have to worry about somebody getting your card# and going wild with i

[e-gold-list] Re: Monex

2001-06-21 Thread Paul Ewing
It sounds like an auto-reply that the software sends out to any incoming mail. I really get a kick out of Monex. They have been running the same commercials on CNN for years. They sound great when the price of gold is on one of its spikes, but most of the time I hear them when it is heading f

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Paul Ewing
> > No the risk to the customer is that they have no way to get their > > money back from a merchant in the case of a problem. > > >When dealing with reputable merchant, the risk is almost non- >existant. Convince the customers of that. One of the highest fears they have is that of using a cre

[e-gold-list] Gold Bugs vs the Masses (was egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips)

2001-06-21 Thread Paul Ewing
> > >>> why would merchants push a payment system which delays the sale? > > >> How does e-gold delay the sale? > > > > > > I guess he meant that the customer must first acquire some e-gold > > > before he can spend it. A slower process than with a credit card. > > > > Exactly. You must first acq

[e-gold-list] Monex

2001-06-21 Thread Tristan Petersen
I saw a commercial on television advertising gold. The company behind it was Monex (http://www.monex.com). Apparently, they sell gold coins and other precious metals. I sent them an email inquiring about their e-gold acceptance policy; Look at the reply I got. Did they even read my email? I don't

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
"C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc." wrote: > > I am betting that we will see a massive move to gold and private > money in the coming decade. Which will annoy the national governments enough that they'll likely try and legislate GCs into the ground, or at least tie them and regulate them and require so

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> On the other hand, making people pay to avoid being spammed by some > official list will just annoy the hell out of them, and make them switch > to GoldMoney. Being forced to dig around in the acct pages just to turn off that 'convenience' would also annoy the hell out of people. A new user cre

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 20:37, Julian Morrison wrote: > Which will annoy the national governments enough that they'll likely > try and legislate GCs into the ground, or at least tie them and > regulate them and require so much snooping on the customers as to > effectively nationalize them by default.

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 14:46, Paul Ewing wrote: > No the risk to the customer is that they have no way to get their > money back from a merchant in the case of a problem. When dealing with reputable merchant, the risk is almost non- existant. Claude http://www.goldcurrencies.ca http://www.ormetal

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
Ken Griffith wrote: > > Yeah, it's a cool idea if someone does it to you once. But, if you start > getting five to ten ad spends a day it will clutter up your financial > statements real fast. I think I would get pretty po'ed about it. But it is > possible now, isn't it. There's a good soluti

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Paul Ewing
> > True, but with egold you are placing all the extra cost and all the > > risks in the hand of the consumer. > >When you underdstand that the greater risk and costs is not with >gold and gold currencies, but with national currencies that are >constantly debased, it becomes very easy to make th

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread twpmarket
>The idea here is that E-Gold could set the price to allow businesses to >'Broadcast' messages to ALL account holders which subscribe to this >service,(and subscriptions would be added automatically, requiring the >user to turn them OFF manually -- maybe even at a cost to the account >holder).

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread SnowDog
> There's a good solution to this: e-gold should add the ability to > categorize spends so as to make agregating or ignoring a slew of > spamdonations easier. "show all, show spams, show MMs, show > purchases..." etc. If you went this route -- to allow 'Spam Spends' -- then a category could be se

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
SnowDog wrote: > > > 2) Any business could use the feature, but they would have to pay E-Gold > for > > its use. > > The idea here is that E-Gold could set the price to allow businesses to > 'Broadcast' messages to ALL account holders which subscribe to this service, > (and subscriptions would b

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 21:09, PowerClicks wrote: > Exactly. You must first acquire e-gold which is slow. The only way to > do this relatively quickly if to fund using a credit card, but then > what's the point? For e-gold and Goldmoney to reach the masses and replace credit cards in online payment

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 21:12, PowerClicks wrote: > True, but with egold you are placing all the extra cost and all the > risks in the hand of the consumer. When you underdstand that the greater risk and costs is not with gold and gold currencies, but with national currencies that are constantly d

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread PowerClicks
>> As a merchant myself, I much prefer wiating for sfe e-gold than >> taking CC and being charge 3%. > > 3% uncapped and with the very real possibility that the transaction will > be cancelled at any in the near future. True, but with egold you are placing all the extra cost and all the risks in

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
PowerClicks wrote: > > >>> why would merchants push a payment system which delays the sale? > >> How does e-gold delay the sale? > > > > I guess he meant that the customer must first acquire some e-gold > > before he can spend it. A slower process than with a credit card. > > Exactly. You must f

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread SnowDog
> 2) Any business could use the feature, but they would have to pay E-Gold for > its use. The idea here is that E-Gold could set the price to allow businesses to 'Broadcast' messages to ALL account holders which subscribe to this service, (and subscriptions would be added automatically, requiring

[e-gold-list] Re: Spamming E-Gold accounts.

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
Vince Callaway wrote: > > The idea hitting all of the e-gold accounts may seem like a good way to > advertise except for 2 issues. > > First, how many of you actually look at your history (exchange providers > excluded). > > Secondly, E-Gold does not notify people when money is placed in their

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread Ken Griffith
On the bright side, actually getting paid for spam is a nice concept. - Original Message - From: "SnowDog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 3:03 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001 > > Yeah, it's a

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread PowerClicks
>>> why would merchants push a payment system which delays the sale? >> How does e-gold delay the sale? > > I guess he meant that the customer must first acquire some e-gold > before he can spend it. A slower process than with a credit card. Exactly. You must first acquire e-gold which is slow.

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread SnowDog
> Yeah, it's a cool idea if someone does it to you once. But, if you start > getting five to ten ad spends a day it will clutter up your financial > statements real fast. I think I would get pretty po'ed about it. But it is > possible now, isn't it. OK, E-Gold could add a feature to their webs

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread Ken Griffith
Yeah, it's a cool idea if someone does it to you once. But, if you start getting five to ten ad spends a day it will clutter up your financial statements real fast. I think I would get pretty po'ed about it. But it is possible now, isn't it. - Original Message - From: "SnowDog" <[EMAI

[e-gold-list] ads schmads

2001-06-21 Thread Dave Turner
Targeting e-gold members through banner ads on e-gold's spend page won't solve anything. Banner ads don't work. Displaying them on the spend page would only be distracting to new account holders and annoying to established accounts. Most importantly, policy decisions regarding content displ

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread SnowDog
> Autospend 1 mg to each user in numeric sequence and put your message > in the memo field. Steve, I think this is a brilliant idea -- especially if E-Gold would ad code to send an email message to a customer when they receive a payment! "You've been Paid! Buy anything from Amazon.com at www.Ban

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 20, 2001

2001-06-21 Thread SnowDog
> Nice try Steve > But would it be cost effective?? :-) > 95,000mg is a lot of gold...isn't it? No, that's 95 grams -- about $800 USD. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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