[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread Joe Smith
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Why all this resistance to surgery? Flax seeds? Give me a break. Once the horse has left the barn any nutritional approach is a tad late! Again, why all this resistance to standard medical procedures? I'm not suggesting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread John
Namaste, Your friend was born under the sign of Leo according to jyotish rules, and the Moon is under the asterism or nakshatra of Revati. In the main chart or rashi kundali, The 7th house signifying the prostrate gland is under heavy malefic influence with the Sun and Mercury in it and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apple Quicktime Help

2008-12-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Nabs, as I clicked to open your post, I said to myself, I bet he's going to tell me to get checked. Heck, I think I will! Very good, and a Happy New Year to you !

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: Namaste, Your friend was born under the sign of Leo according to jyotish rules, and the Moon is under the asterism or nakshatra of Revati. In the main chart or rashi kundali, The 7th house signifying the prostrate gland is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Namaste, Your friend was born under the sign of Leo according to jyotish rules, and the Moon is under the asterism or nakshatra of Revati. In the main

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Namaste, Your friend was born under the sign of Leo according to jyotish rules, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: spirituality spot found in brain

2008-12-30 Thread Vaj
On Dec 29, 2008, at 8:52 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: It's possible that most TMers are not in fact transcending in the full sense of that word and are merely experiencing thought-free states. transcendent and not samadhi? That is observed about the TM community by Spiritual teachers and folk

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread Vaj
On Dec 29, 2008, at 11:57 PM, Peter wrote: Why all this resistance to surgery? Flax seeds? Give me a break. Once the horse has left the barn any nutritional approach is a tad late! Again, why all this resistance to standard medical procedures? Raised on magical thinking.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Namaste,

[FairfieldLife] Re: spirituality spot found in brain

2008-12-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: One very appreciative saint (?) saying of the community also commented about it, there is a dry- ness while circling their hand in front of their heart area. Interesting, although (sadly) not surprising. Can you remember

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Yes, John. Let's put your Ayurveda and Jyotish to the test. This is your big chance. How about it? Yes, do.rflex your trust in your fellow men is heartening ! For why on earth do you know that this person The Turq is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Yes, John. Let's put your Ayurveda and Jyotish to the test. This is your big chance. How about it? Yes, do.rflex your trust in your fellow men is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: John, While I understand that you believe in this Jyotish stuff, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: snip To trust The Turq to tell you anything with as much as a little core of truth is indeed looney. I've been familiar with Barry Wright [Turquoise,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: snip Yes, do.rflex your trust in your fellow men is heartening ! For why on earth do you know that this person The Turq is refferring to is a real

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: How long have you been on this forum, two weeks ? IIRC, almost a year. To trust The Turq to tell you anything with as much as a little core of truth is indeed looney. I've been familiar with Barry Wright

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Yes, John. Let's put your Ayurveda and Jyotish to the test. This is your big chance. How about it? Isn't it fascinating to see exactly WHO is already pre-apologizing and finding reasons to NOT put Jyotish to a blind test?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: If Barry wanted to disprove something *you* believed in, you'd be rightly skeptical about any test he came up with. The only reason you're so enthusiastic about this one is that you want to disprove Jyotish yourself. I

[FairfieldLife] Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread TurquoiseB
John, My take on you is that you're honest enough to actually take a shot at this blind test. But there are some TM True Believers who are trying to get you to NOT perform the test, for their own TB reasons. Here is what I will do. As soon as I finish sending off this post, I will write an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: snip To trust The Turq to tell you anything with as much as a little core of truth is

[FairfieldLife] Self-control and Religion

2008-12-30 Thread Marek Reavis
From the New York Times, 12.30.08. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/30/science/30tier.html Sacred values come prefabricated for religious believers, Dr. McCullough said. The belief that God has preferences for how you behave and the goals you set for yourself has to be the granddaddy of all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: John, My take on you is that you're honest enough to actually take a shot at this blind test. But there are some TM True Believers who are trying to get you to NOT perform the test, for their own TB reasons. Right on

[FairfieldLife] Global Warming Deniers Scrape Bottom of Barrel

2008-12-30 Thread Vaj
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/12/ denialists_scraping_the_bottom.php#more LINK

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: But Barry should note that he wouldn't have to go through this rigamarole and make public his friend's private medical data (has his friend given him permission to do so?) if it weren't for the fact that he has so completely

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: How long have you been on this forum, two weeks ? IIRC, almost a year. To trust The Turq to tell you anything with as much as a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread TurquoiseB
The emails have been sent to the three moderators. But, in light of the prediction I made yesterday about how obsessed Judy is with me, and how the percentage of her posts that mention me in the coming year will *demonstrate* that obsession, I will comment on this quote of hers before the new

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 30, 2008, at 8:52 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Yes, John. Let's put your Ayurveda and Jyotish to the test. This is your big chance. How about it? Isn't it fascinating to see exactly WHO is already pre-apologizing and finding

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Yes, John. Let's put your Ayurveda and Jyotish to the test. This is your big chance. How about it? Isn't it fascinating to see exactly WHO is already

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Instead, they're trying to make sure that Jyotish is never put to the test. Agreed. I was surprised to read so many attempts to belittle your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread curtisdeltablues
I think this is a great idea and people's objections can be worked into the test. If someone has a problem with Turq's credibility then let's add some more people with medical and birth date examples. The medical details can be emailed in advance to someone we all vote that we trust, or better

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: The emails have been sent to the three moderators. But, in light of the prediction I made yesterday about how obsessed Judy is with me, and how the percentage of her posts that mention me in the coming year will

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread curtisdeltablues
In the interest of fairness and accuracy, I have just consulted that oracle of truth and wisdom, The Magic Ouija Board, and it has verified that yes, without a doubt, Barry's person is real and he is NOT LYING. What more could anyone ask for? Sal I would like to see a cross reference

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-control and Religion

2008-12-30 Thread Duveyoung
Marek Reavis wrote: From the New York Times, 12.30.08. . . . Sacred values come prefabricated for religious believers, Dr. McCullough said. The belief that God has preferences for how you behave and the goals you set for yourself has to be the granddaddy of all psychological devices for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: In the interest of fairness and accuracy, I have just consulted that oracle of truth and wisdom, The Magic Ouija Board, and it has verified that yes, without a doubt, Barry's person is real and he is

[FairfieldLife] Audio and video of MMY

2008-12-30 Thread Rick Archer
From a friend: This is a phenomenal website if you want to listen to audio or see video tape of His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and his master Swami Brahmanand Saraswati http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread enlightened_dawn11
TROLL ALERT. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: The emails have been sent to the three moderators. But, in light of the prediction I made yesterday about how obsessed Judy is with me, and how the percentage of her posts that mention me in the coming

[FairfieldLife] One last point about the Jyotish Test

2008-12-30 Thread TurquoiseB
To the three moderators of FFL: Please don't reveal what I sent to you in email *unless* someone steps up to the plate and does a Jyotish analysis of my friend's birth data. This little experiment is like poker. You don't get to see the other players' cards unless you put your chips in the pot.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dictators that left power on advice of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi by telephone

2008-12-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 2:20 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dictators that left power on advice of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi by telephone Yes He did.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Letters on TM from religious/spiritual leaders

2008-12-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: -Original Message- From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 2:06 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: Letters on TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: My New Year's Resolution and Seeing Prediction For 2009

2008-12-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: [...] He stupidly wasted a good chunk of political capital on his choice of Warren, which is too bad, because he's going to need every single last bit of it once he gets to the White House. With whom did he waste his

[FairfieldLife] Power of jyotish (Re: Prostate cancer. What to do)

2008-12-30 Thread Duveyoung
Curtis, Just about everyone in the movement has had their jyotish done -- probably more than once by more than one astrologer. And, I say, that's enough experimenting, let's draw some conclusions now from the data we have. And, I'm willing to bet a serious chunk of dough that everyone has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Power of jyotish (Re: Prostate cancer. What to do)

2008-12-30 Thread Bhairitu
Duveyoung wrote: Curtis, Just about everyone in the movement has had their jyotish done -- probably more than once by more than one astrologer. And, I say, that's enough experimenting, let's draw some conclusions now from the data we have. And, I'm willing to bet a serious chunk of dough

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: I think this is a great idea and people's objections can be worked into the test. If someone has a problem with Turq's credibility then let's add some more people with medical and birth date examples. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: My New Year's Resolution and Seeing Prediction For 2009

2008-12-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: [...] He stupidly wasted a good chunk of political capital on his choice of Warren, which is too bad, because he's going to need every single last bit of it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Letters on TM from religious/spiritual leaders

2008-12-30 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: Well, tell that to my totally atheistic son, who learned when he was much younger and still rolls his eyes at my obsession with the Maharishi Effect, etc, and still does his program 2x a day. He's missed perhaps 2-3 times

Re: [FairfieldLife] New paper on TM and ADHD

2008-12-30 Thread Vaj
On Dec 30, 2008, at 12:41 PM, Peter wrote: They call this an exploratory study for a good reason. The method is a simple pre-post measure with the subjects as there own controls. The problem with this is that there is no independent control group to control for the impact of hidden

[FairfieldLife] Power of jyotish (Re: Prostate cancer. What to do)

2008-12-30 Thread curtisdeltablues
So, given the above considerations, do you really think more testing of jyotish is worth anyone's time? Edg Hey Man, I do agree with most of what you said,(I couldn't follow the god argument) and have basically come to the same conclusions for my own beliefs. But I thought it would be a

[FairfieldLife] Re: New paper on TM and ADHD

2008-12-30 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: But Vaj, three out of four dentists surveyed PREFER Crest! On Dec 30, 2008, at 12:41 PM, Peter wrote: They call this an exploratory study for a good reason. The method is a simple pre-post measure with the subjects as

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New paper on TM and ADHD

2008-12-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 12:02 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New paper on TM and ADHD --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Barky fiddles while Gaza burns

2008-12-30 Thread shempmcgurk
[Obama] Unfair to say? You betcha! But this is a gotcha moment the likes of which would have been visited upon George Bush by the Left had Bush -- even as president-elect -- been found in this position. Come on, Offal_World and Bongo Brazil, be consistent in your derogatory worldview and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: I have a very close friend who has just been diagnosed with prostate cancer. 3 nodes of the biopsy have a Gleason Index of 7. Otherwise my friend is in excellent health and recently had an Ayurvedic consult at the

[FairfieldLife] Re: New paper on TM and ADHD

2008-12-30 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: They call this an exploratory study for a good reason. The method is a simple pre-post measure with the subjects as there own controls. The problem with this is that there is no independent control group to control for the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-control and Religion

2008-12-30 Thread Marek Reavis
Edg, comments interleaved: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Marek Reavis wrote: From the New York Times, 12.30.08. . . . Sacred values come prefabricated for religious believers, Dr. McCullough said. The belief that God has preferences for how

RE: [FairfieldLife] Barky fiddles while Gaza burns

2008-12-30 Thread Rick Archer
What do you expect him to do? He's about to step into the world's most demanding job, but he's not in it yet. I don't begrudge him a vacation. BTW, Bush is on vacation now too. Maybe he's the one you should be criticizing for doing that. He's the president, sort of, although he was never actually

[FairfieldLife] Re: Letters on TM from religious/spiritual leaders

2008-12-30 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: -Original Message- From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@] Sent: Monday,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: But Barry should note that he wouldn't have to go through this rigamarole and make public his friend's private medical data (has his friend given him

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: a 68-year-old woman who has been practicing TM faithfully for 30 years is mind-boggling, and makes me question her sanity. I don't think I'm the only person on this forum who does. This is so funny. Once in a while The Turq

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barky fiddles while Gaza burns

2008-12-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: What do you expect him to do? He's about to step into the world's most demanding job, but he's not in it yet. I don't begrudge him a vacation. BTW, Bush is on vacation now too. Maybe he's the one you should be criticizing for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: snip Hum. I think that Barry's disclosure, if he makes disclosures, isn't a HIPAA problem. No, it's not a HIPAA problem per se, but it sure as heck isn't good form to reveal information about a named person's medical

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: a 68-year-old woman who has been practicing TM faithfully for 30 years is mind-boggling, and makes me question her sanity. I don't think I'm the

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barky fiddles while Gaza burns

2008-12-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 1:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barky fiddles while Gaza burns --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Letters on TM from religious/spiritual leaders

2008-12-30 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: -Original Message- From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@] Sent: Monday,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: As for the Turq/Barry problem; increasingly people on FFL find it mind-boggeling that a fellow who left the TMO in disgrace, having been told to keep physically away from Maharishi by His Secretaries more than 30 years

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Namaste, Your friend was born under the sign of Leo according to jyotish rules, and the Moon is under the asterism or nakshatra of Revati. In the main

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barky fiddles while Gaza burns

2008-12-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 1:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barky fiddles while

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread I am the eternal
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:42 PM, ruthsimplicity no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal I skimmed through these threads about your friend. I take it you are in Texas. If he hasn't been there already, I recommend MD Anderson Cancer Center in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread enlightened_dawn11
bravo! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Namaste, Your friend was born under the sign of Leo according to jyotish rules,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: Barry, In my dealings with you, I found that you have already a predisposed opinion about TM and the vedic sciences which is not positive to say the least. That is a fair thing to say about my opinion of the so-called Vedic

The Raj/Ayurveda--Was [FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread I am the eternal
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:31 PM, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: bravo! This is the reply back from the Raj asking what to do about my friend's condition: Here is the response from the Vedic Health Experts: Are nodes benign or is it cancer? Why do they want to remove your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: As for the Turq/Barry problem; increasingly people on FFL find it mind-boggeling that a fellow who left the TMO in disgrace, having been told to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: bravo! I don't think I really understand what your bravo statement refers to? Is it out of line to ask a person making claims to provide some evidence? The whole idea that Joitish is a science but is not for people

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: As for the Turq/Barry problem; increasingly people on FFL find it

[FairfieldLife] Wonderful Idea

2008-12-30 Thread Marek Reavis
From the Guardian, 12.22.08 http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/dec/22/diy-adjustable-glasses- josh-silver or, http://snipurl.com/99xrk It was a chance conversation on March 23 1985 (in the afternoon, as I recall) that first started Josh Silver on his quest to make the world's poor see.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: As for the Turq/Barry problem; increasingly people on FFL find it mind-boggeling that a fellow who left the TMO in disgrace, having been told to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: bravo! I don't think I really understand what your bravo statement refers to? Is it out of line to ask a person making claims

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Furthermore, JUDY knows it, and is not calling Nabby on his lie because she's doing the same thing he is with her insinuations that I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:42 PM, ruthsimplicity no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal I skimmed through these threads about your friend. I take it you are in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: My contention, and my reason for posting this little test, is that I believe Jyotish *depends* on people having a bias *for* it. My contention is that if that bias were not present, its customers would not view the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: a 68-year-old woman who has been practicing TM faithfully for 30 years is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: My contention, and my reason for posting this little test, is that I believe Jyotish *depends* on people having a bias *for* it. My contention

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: As for the Turq/Barry problem; increasingly people on FFL find it mind-boggeling that a fellow who left the TMO in disgrace, having been told to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Biden and Cheney flinging put downs on terror, spying

2008-12-30 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 22, 2008, at 12:26 PM, do.rflex wrote: Biden fired back by saying he's been promised a seat at the table for everybig decision - and he won't abuse that trust like Cheney did. I think the recommendations, the advice that he has given to President Bush ... has been not healthy for our

Re: [FairfieldLife] Research to start on effects of TM on bipolar and post traumatic stress disorder

2008-12-30 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 22, 2008, at 12:39 PM, gullible fool wrote: It is? I've definitely been doing it wrong all these years then. Boo hoo, I want another mantra! You can have one of mine, Sal! Deal, gull. Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 30, 2008, at 10:16 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: In the interest of fairness and accuracy, I have just consulted that oracle of truth and wisdom, The Magic Ouija Board, and it has verified that yes, without a doubt, Barry's person is real and he is NOT LYING. What more could anyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making the Jyotish Test fair

2008-12-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: As for the Turq/Barry problem; increasingly people on FFL find it

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2008-12-30 Thread Nenad Kuzmanović
www.dancingsantacard.com/default.aspx?santa=6440563 Pozdrav i sve najbolje, Nenad Kuzmanović

[FairfieldLife] Re: Letters on TM from religious/spiritual leaders

2008-12-30 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: My sentiments as well, and yes, I'm sure it is/was tactical, though I think it will continue to dog them until they come clean and state emphatically that TM is not being taught as a Religion but has its foundation in Religion and

[FairfieldLife] Deadline for the Jyotish Test

2008-12-30 Thread TurquoiseB
John, I appreciate your willingness to look at my friend's chart. That shows that your heart is in the right place, and that you really want to help if you can. But you only have until 7:00 pm my time on December 31st (that is 12:00 Noon Fairfield time) to do so. At that point I'll be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: My contention, and my reason for posting this little test, is that I believe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Letters on TM from religious/spiritual leaders

2008-12-30 Thread Vaj
On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:39 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: The religion question is partly an east-west issue of the nature of religion. From what I am reading, the mixing of religion and science is common in fundamentalist Hinduism. I posted a link a week or two ago about how fundamentalist Hindus

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deadline for the Jyotish Test

2008-12-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: John, Do not believe a word of what the Turq is writing. Don't waste your time analysing a chart unless you know for sure that this person actually excists.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Power of jyotish (Re: Prostate cancer. What to do)

2008-12-30 Thread I am the eternal
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:58 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Man, I do agree with most of what you said,(I couldn't follow the god argument) and have basically come to the same conclusions for my own beliefs. But I thought it would be a blast if John could nail

[FairfieldLife] Re: That white plastic tube they put up your butt

2008-12-30 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: Here's my complaint: When I turned 50 several years ago my doctor prescribed that I have a colonoscopy done. Apparently, at that age, it's good to have it checked. Whatever. Boy, the trouble you have to go

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: I agree that JohnR seems sincere. I'm not so sure about Chopra. Who I understand does still in fact hold a medical license but doesn't claim to practice. Go figure. Anyway, I am drifting. You claim to have

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2008-12-30 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Dec 27 00:00:00 2008 End Date (UTC): Sat Jan 03 00:00:00 2009 473 messages as of (UTC) Wed Dec 31 00:11:58 2008 43 do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com 42 authfriend jst...@panix.com 36 TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com 31 I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Letters on TM from religious/spiritual leaders

2008-12-30 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:39 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: The religion question is partly an east-west issue of the nature of religion. From what I am reading, the mixing of religion and science is common in fundamentalist

[FairfieldLife] Re: Letters on TM from religious/spiritual leaders

2008-12-30 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:39 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: The religion question is partly an east-west issue of the nature of religion. From what I am reading, the mixing of religion and science is common in fundamentalist

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do

2008-12-30 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: I agree that JohnR seems sincere. I'm not so sure about Chopra. Who I understand does still in fact hold a medical license but doesn't claim to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Letters on TM from religious/spiritual leaders

2008-12-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: snip They can't have their cake and eat it too, they want TM to be thought of as non-Religious yet providing all of the benefits of Religion. Pretty good

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