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I reckon 90% likely at this point.
No action required by anybody but it's likely enough that we should be
preparing for memorialisation.
Sorry. If it's true, I'll miss him.
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I've been asked about this, and am reluctant to do anything about it myself
due to the obvious 'accusations of bias' issues, but I can't personally see
any reason why we should leave that on cpan.
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kent's dead, ether volunteered, if anybody else volunteers we can hook them up
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lt, I suggest PHRED, just so the ownership matches the name on the
> most recent release, so if someone does want to adopt it, the person they’re
> most likely to contact can give them co-maint.
>
> Cheers,
> Neil
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See: https://metacpan.org/author/PINGAN
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Given the last release was ~15 years ago, I think we can safely assume it's
not the original author's top priority.
I've given you co-maint for the moment.
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On Wed, Nov 06, 2019 at 03:36:48AM +0100, Andreas Koenig wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 02:03:01 +, Matt S Trout
> >>>>> said:
>
> > I'm not sure what the procedure would be for when this happens, do we
> > re-uploa
to happen. Thoughts welcome.
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year ago I attempted to contact the author (several
> >>> times) regarding this module. Several bugs have been logged against it,
> >>> but there are no responses from the original authors. I have some fixes I
> >>> can apply and have volunteered to adopt this module as it se
permissions for doing a release doing my best to make the
change that's already been promised.
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Guess we'll be playing this game for a little while.
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Did the same for FULLHD.
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if anybody feels this was inappropriate, but looking
at https://www.cpan.org/authors/id/D/DO/DOCRIVERS/ did not suggest to me that
anything of value was going to be lost by spiking their uploads.
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From: Gergely Nagy
To: Matt S Trout
Cc: modules@perl.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: Permission to steal the Babble CPAN namespace?
User-Agent: Notmuch/0.25+24~g178d62c (https
nd I often have that in
a mixed perl/JS project (2) it's a self-deprecatory pun, and having grown
up with Trout as a surname I'm unable to resist those.
Could you please click the relevant buttons? I feel like as the adopter
I probably shouldn't also be the facilitating admin.
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for you, since the cc will demonstrate
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On Tue, May 01, 2018 at 04:57:09PM +0100, Neil Bowers wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> I’ve just transferred first-come permissions on Crypt::OpenSSL::RSA to you.
Neither John nor I see it in 'view permissions'
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On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 06:57:24PM +, Matt S Trout wrote:
> If anybody has any objections here, please tell me - if I don't hear anything
> then I'll transfer primary from ADOPTME to him later in the week and remove
> the ADOPTME tag.
Made ARISTOTLE primary maintainer of Algorithm::L
.
Added ARISTOTLE to co-maintainers of Tie::HashHistory.
Added ARISTOTLE to co-maintainers of UDCode.
Added ARISTOTLE to co-maintainers of punctuation.
Added ARISTOTLE to co-maintainers of y2k.
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are designed to consume
cpan mirrors, and backpan is just a cpan mirror that doesn't delete anything.
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ght holder isn't granting enough via the
license, but I'm wondering whether (a) we need to do anything about this
(b) even if we don't *legally* need to, do we have a policy that we can
quote to try and get the author to pick a license that people can use?
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and I have (in meatspace, even) verified
that said relationship is real.
So I'd argue that the available evidence in this case meets at least that
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written with input from each other, and as such he probably has a better idea
of how to arrange the disposition than we do.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go get fucking drunk.
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e? If that would
> > cause a problem, or if you just don't want to that is fine, but I had to
> > ask :-)
> >
> > FYI I have an experiment I want to run in the namespace, might be
> > horrifying and get thrown out, might end up handy, we will see.
> >
> >
> >
e for years"
Delegate. As in, to borrow the google definition:
"a person sent or authorized to represent others"
"entrust (a task or responsibility) to another person, typically one who
is less senior than oneself."
I'm unsure how you think my words there indicated anything
, this sets nearly as
widespread a precedent as you seem to be worried about here.
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that regard ended
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by whatever the project's
governance is once the current dust settles, so I guess defer it for now.
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sake, I hereby repeat the body text of my initial email to
the PAUSE admins, which I sent shortly before I contacted Peter and initially
suggested it would be nice if he talked to us before doing anything drastic.
=== BEGIN ===
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 17:47:01 +0000
From: Matt S Trout <m...@shadowcat
, given xdg's "consideration for the potential
successor" point amongst others, if that's what Peter feels necessary to be
able to share his thoughts, I'm mostly just happy that we're going to get
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RCHAR';
use aliased 'Class::Object::Type::CHAR';
...
which will export constants for VARCHAR(), CHAR() etc. (this is how
JSON::MaybeXS provides JSON->new btw).
Or you could automate generation of said constants with 'use constant'.
Or whatever.
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We're going to be restarting the test population of /Perl6/ in a bit, assuming
nobody comes up with anything else we can do first to avoid blowing up
downstream stuff that doesn't understand /Perl6/.
Please see http://shadow.cat/blog/matt-s-trout/the-psixdists-experiment/ for
a more detailed
of Clipboard::Xclip.
Added ETHER to co-maintainers of PhonyClipboard.
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On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 05:35:01PM -0400, David Golden wrote:
> Did it actually index or did you get an email you didn't read perhaps with
> one of those database lock errors?
>
> On Aug 7, 2016 4:52 PM, "Matt S Trout" <m...@shadowcat.
I released two versions of App-opan - 0.001001 and 0.001002. The former
didn't index any modules because I'm an idiot, and showed up on metacpan
etc. fine. The latter did index a module because I'd fixed it, and then
nothing has been seen of it anywhere since.
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On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 07:51:04PM +0200, Johan Vromans wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 17:02:03 +
> Matt S Trout <m...@shadowcat.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > provides means "you don't need to index this dist at all",
>
> With all respect, according to CPAN:::Meta::
tware may also fail
to handle it sanely.
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On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 07:39:04PM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote:
> I gave up primary on Pg::DatabaseManager when I meant to transfer it
> to ADOPTME.
Reindex it, then transfer?
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due the following error: C< Lock wait timeout
> exceeded; try restarting transaction >. Please report the
> case to the PAUSE admins at modules@perl.org.
>
> __END__
>
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I'm aware that's not necessarily the easiest thing to find, mind, hence my
repling with a paste rather than just 'read the FAQ' :)
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Right, we're in touch off list this time, so we can now take this extended
episode of 'communication is hard' somewhere else. Sorry for the noise,
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On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:19:13AM +0200, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
> * Matt S Trout <m...@shadowcat.co.uk> [2016-05-11 20:23]:
> > Were I you, I'd simply take the evidence as available:
> >
> > - At least four people thought your comment was phrased unkindly
> >
eceive as a result.
I am perfectly willing to continue this conversation off list if you wish
to, though I'd ask you to stop assuming bad faith on my part if you're going
to since otherwise it's unlikely to be constructive for either of us.
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Either way, I doubt we'll gain much more value out of this thread, so while
you're welcome to have the last word if it makes you happy, I'll be leaving
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ease try and be more polite in future.
HTH, HAND.
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Please try to be less condescending to volunteers trying to help you by
telling you your exact mistake.
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will offer support for their
perl releases, and my employers (http://shadow.cat/) offer general CPAN
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rom 'make dist' without changing the
name in future and life will be less confusing for everybody :)
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> > script or documentation distribution or a
> > developer release?)
> >
> > __END__
> >
>
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:19:18 -0500
From: Ricardo Signes <r...@cpan.org>
To: Matt S Trout <m...@shadowcatsystems.co.uk>
Subject: [r...@cpan.org: PAUSE handoff
The current situation is covered by the current Nagios::Plugin release.
I will, of course, update as proposed.
I'm unsure if modules@ needs to be aware of this now since I have co-maint
in an admin-free way, but prefer to mention it for the record.
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x entry to META.* to specifically avoid your fakelibs
directory - but t/lib is the normal place to put them, and would already
be ignored, so for this case I'd go with 'put them in the standard place'.
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do the sensible/normal thing, I'd say
clarifying the existing license is fine.
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to this distribution according to the normal
PAUSE rules, any further drama can now be directed straight to me and
shouldn't need to have any effect on the rest of the admins.
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this distribution? If not, I'm able to do so.
Hi, pinging you one more time. Are you still around? I would like to formally
request comaintainership of this module to fix the outstanding issues on
newer perls.
You seem to now have first-come with RICKM as co-maint.
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first-come to me, according to the definition of ADOPTME at
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they can contribute than I am in avoiding clutter.
One person's garbage is another person's favourite utility module; much though
the quality of CPAN is highly variable, attempting to forcibly curate it would
I think cause more problems than it would solve.
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Please stop shipping a P.pm.
That's already owned by LAWALSH.
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the co-maintainer right on all the modules in the
distribution.
Follow the 'View Permissions' link on the side bar once you're logged in
and you'll find that you can look.
Uploading releases at all to test what can be directly observed is a pretty
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On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 04:47:25PM -0400, David Golden wrote:
FLORA is primary maint, now, so shouldn't this go through him?
Huh, I wasn't aware there was already an attempted adoption - there doesn't
seem to've been a release yet.
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I'm talking to various people off-list to try and get a clearer picture
without us accidentally falling into a pointless public bunfight.
I'll summarise to the list once we've figured it out.
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Having the link there from 'change permissions' but not working, and no way
to actually change the permissions, is not an ideal situation.
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. They're registered
in the module list. The Change Permissions interface is supposed to
bring me to Edit Module Metadata but it just brings me back to the
PAUSE home page.
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over HTTP is a feature!
We want these files to be out in the open, providing access to them is what
CPAN was built for.
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any permissions for Mustache::Simple at all, though. Maybe if
you avoid the v-string crazy and use a normal version like
our $VERSION = '1.003002';
it'll index?
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yesterday as well.
If you can get him to simply reply to this list saying I'm ok with this
being done then I'm happy enough to go click the buttons.
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On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 12:57:55PM +0100, Adrian Howard wrote:
Also, FYI, your cpan address exid...@cpan.org bounces ;-)
That's because his PAUSE id is EXODIST and Ron typo'ed it on the original
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Test::Exception was modulelist ownership rather than first-come.
I've moved that across to Exodist as well.
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intend to JFDI on the
forgiveness/permission principle, and ETHER because damned if I'll remember
to JFDI unless she reminds me)
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On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 04:28:42PM +0200, Matthijs van Duin wrote:
Permission granted
PAUSE sayeth: Made FLORA primary maintainer of Sub::Name.
Thanks!
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the relevant RT ticket, also sent to
modules@perl.org to start the abandonware countdown clock if it proves
necessary and to the email addresses given in the POD in case authors are
receiving normal mail but not RT mail.
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A patched version has been uploaded.
Other applications of pending patches on rt will be applied shortly.
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to do was click the 'add co-maint' button. Please take my
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Then I (gasp) asked a German friend to confirm it :)
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On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 09:20:09AM +1100, Ron Savage wrote:
On 01/04/14 08:37, Matt S Trout wrote:
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 09:13:18AM +1100, Ron Savage wrote:
As for Winifred, I know a woman of that name, so I would also have
assumed Winfried was female, although a name like Siegfried (sp
. It is trivial (requires adding an array) to add new
unit types. In fact, today I plan to add support for digital storage
(bits, bytes, etc.) and cooking (cups, tsp, etc.)
Convert::Pluggable would sound good then.
Also look at modules matching Units for ideas.
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since 2006 or so ... yeah, I'll bite.
I've transferred the modulelist reg for Net::Interface to REHSACK - he's
already got first-come on Net::Interface::Developer.
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but I'd like a double check - or if you already did that and
Ron hasn't passed it on quite right, just reply telling me I'm an overly
paranoid idiot and I'll crawl back under my rock :D
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use of arbitrary logging systems.
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and the success of the community more than we care about our disagreements.
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used and is just being counterproductive, why can't we just delete it
and let racke upload?
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, for the simple reason that App::LearnPerl sounds
superficially like it should be a client to learn.perl.org ... and this is
something completely different (and a very cool idea, btw!)
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-perl-tutorial would be better, though it is quite long (not
a problem for people who use TAB completion)?
I like InteractivePerlTutorial and I think I'd argue that anybody wants
a GUI tutorial is probably going to use tab completion ... or make some
sort of UI shortcut for it :)
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for discussion on the naming.
WL is absolutely meaningless on first sight as a namespace. Expanding the
acronym or adding a qualifier for what area it related to would be good.
WL as a namespace on its own is terrible.
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?
Protocol::Wayland and then use the fact that perl can export symbols to
avoid needing to reference fully qualified long names. See:
http://p3rl.org/aliased
http://p3rl.org/Exporter
for two simple modules that'll help with that.
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, like me, sometimes runs into the problem of having
opinions so people ignore us.
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convention rather than a more
obscure one would seem the better choice.
Sorry for missing this email until now.
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that cpansea...@perl.org is the appropriate address to report
that to.
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On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:38:22AM -0400, brian d foy wrote:
In article 20130926031322.gs1...@newagaton.scsys.co.uk, Matt S Trout
m...@shadowcat.co.uk wrote:
If they're already taken then ::OO will just make you look stupid
The other way of saying that is that you would think the person
::Benchmark or Benchmark::Class would be normal.
If they're already taken then ::OO will just make you look stupid - figure
out what the real unique selling point is and name it after that.
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gender typing case as with Audrey, can you not
simply log in to the ALEX account and transfer all the ownership yourself?
(we can help you recover access to it if that's got lost somewhen)
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