I have problem to make my connections to the internet to work using
my portable PC.
Each time I launch kppp, I have the following message :
"Sorry, the modem is busy"
What is that ?
I've never had any problem with my other computers running Linux, but
it's the first time I install Linux
I want to use the PowerSave - functions my machine got,
but do not know any programs / configurations who let
me do it. Do anybody know about such things?
I have a Compac Presario 5726, with ability to "sleep"
when it run Windows, si I hope there is anything like
it in Linux.
I have an
Why don't we just wait for a few more days and .
What is "a few days more"? When can we expect it?
I have to grin about this all... Why is everyone so eager to get to the
next generation of Mandrake? Are so many people so unsatisfied with the
current version?
I'm happily chugging
Of course it is.
I also noticed (but not sure yet) that vs. 3 in Linux is faster than 2.4
in Linux.
That's surprising. Seti's own figures state that 3.0 takes 40% longer than
2.4, as it does a lot of additional processing.
Regards,
Ozz.
Strike one for bloatware, I agree. I once set up a 50-user stock
control
system running on a low-end 486 with 16Mb RAM with Novel NetWare
3.12...
I know about that too. And indeed. Netware 3.12 would run on that, but
not
on much less.
Never underestimate Novel NetWare. I used
That's surprising. Seti's own figures state that 3.0 takes 40% longer
than
2.4, as it does a lot of additional processing.
Hmm... that is strange indeed. This because I am getting more and more
convinced that it is at least not slower. And I checked, I was running the
i686
version of 2.4
With klseti, click on the + button to add an instance. It will show you
a
dialog box. Click the browse button, and select the directory that
setiathome is running in. Click OK, and give it a name in the box over
the
path. Click OK again, et voila!
Thanks, Your instructions were
The commas would not help. The problem is that when there are messages
waiting, the dialtone changes. The modem does not recognize this other
dialtone, hence the 'no dialtone' error.
Adding x3 to the modem init string should work - that tells the modem not to
wait for a dialtone.
Regards,
Ozz, I put in the X3 in the initialization string, still no dialtone
when I have a message on voice mail. Should it be Capital X or lower
case x for the X3? I am trying to find out from Cox Cable if there is a
nother way to signal voicemail other than the stutter tone.
What is your current
Strike one for bloatware, I agree. I once set up a 50-user stock control
system running on a low-end 486 with 16Mb RAM with Novel NetWare 3.12...
I know about that too. And indeed. Netware 3.12 would run on that, but not
on much less.
Never underestimate Novel NetWare. I used to have
Hey Ozz et al,
I am running seti-stuff too since quite a while. I got the version 3
software just this morning, and it is running no problem. I got the i686
which is very compliant with my Pentium-II/400. A work unit is completed
in abour 12 hours here.
Envy!!
I'm running AMD-K6/2-380
I am running seti-stuff too since quite a while. I got the version 3
software just this morning, and it is running no problem. I got the i686
which is very compliant with my Pentium-II/400. A work unit is completed
in abour 12 hours here.
I think they made a mistake by slowing down the
Out of interest, how long are the work units taking on your machine?
Mine
is a little under 20 hours on an AMD K6-2 at 380Mhz.
I am sure that many manual writers are competing in some form of
obfuscation
project...
Happy ET hunting!
Regards,
Ozz.
The AMD K6-2 at 400 Mhz is
I run Seti@home constantly and there's nothing wrong at all. Mine is an
AMD K6-233. So what's your point?
What I'd like to know is the command that he's using to start the
program. Everything about Seti@home comes ready to go right out-a the
box. All you have to do is untar it to it's home
Well, my first install from the Seti@home website was still in the
files. That may be why I was getting a core dump. Not sure. Anyway,
accessing the file by using the correct path and adding "-nice N " the
whole shebang started up again and is currently sitting at "baseline
smoothing". I
Need some help from the list from users of Setiathome. I am trying to
start in a new file and use the -nice 19 command and also the -verbose.
I get all the way to the point where it asks where my computer is
located and I enter "3" for home(without the quotes of course) and I get
a core
I know z80 asm. I need my reference chart of course, but I have writen
programs.
Anyone here managed to get windows 95 to run on an amstrad with a z80 and
64k ram? I have. I had to rewrite the gui part so it would run. There were
no drives, but it did have a working start menu. It used a
The only use I found for self modifying code was speed. example in basic:
do
a=key
if a=27 then beep:end
If a=64 then beep:beep:end
if a=65 then beep:beep:beep:end
loop
change to:
11 change_next_line_to "goto "+key+1
goto 11
28 beep:end
65 beep:end
66 beep:end
If you can
Holy hanna Ozz! come on man! talk more assembler to me! maybe I'm sick,
but I really like that language.
First of all, it is only fair to say that it is a LOONG time since I
last used assembler. Like, 13 years ago...
Secondly, I feel that if we continue this assembler thread (which I'm
I was doing work on an IBM System/3 in those days, as well as on
an old Burrought B-7700. The Burroughs could only be fed through punched
cards (always racing to get the optical reader which was 40 times faster
than the mechanical one! ;-) for the average user, there were no keyboard
I read MANY places, including the manual with Mandrake that you should set
SWAP file to the ammount of ram on your system. SInce you got 128 ram
you
should have it set to 128. Not sure if that is the problem. But apps
load
fine for me and i got 256 ram with swap set to 256
Interesting.
Unfortunately for you, most companies today, and even Linux developers,
would not like such practices among their programmers. For the same
reason
that a good programmer comments their code. Are you always going to be
there to fix problems? I don't think so. 9 out of 10 developers would
Ha! I know tricks like that one too! I had a machine like that, and wrote
a simple but functioning accounting system in it :)
One of my colleagues once tried to write a program to calculate the
performance characteristics of large-bore oil hoses, and ran out of memory
on a 16k machine. I
For an example of tight (and I mean TRICKY TIGHT! ) aquire and reverse
engineer the original Microsoft BASIC. What had been around 48K on the
PDP-11 was packed into a 4k ROM.
A trully brilliant bit of optimising of existing code segments.
Neat!
My record was re-writing a set of
I have a scale:
Hacker elite
advanced hacker
good hacker
Basic hacker
script kiddie who knows their a script kiddie-I am here,
boardering basic hacker.
Adv script kiddie
Script kiddie
Wannabe
Of course, those rate only skill. They say nothing about how the
hacker/cracker
be moderated. If not then anything that even vaugely relates
should be fine. When people start telling others what they can
or can't talk about then things just go to hell w/ flame wars
etc. A new list is great but
minor snip
Maybe I'm missing the obvious here, but what the fsck is
Thank you Ozz...very well put. I'm glad that someone has finally said it
and it couldn't have been said any better. I live in the States and I
definately don't want to hear about this crap on the list. It's all ya
hear about in the stinkin news all the time. Enough already!
Thanks for the
Sorry for butting in with a dumb question,
isn't a hacker, like you said, a very passionate
and devoted programmer - BUT
Isn't a *cracker* is someone who breaks into
computers maliciously?
Please update my database if the info
I typed is not correct.
You are correct Sir. I just
and
the old blue alphanumeric vacuum fluorescent display
using hex code, cpu instrucitons, accumulator register,
BC register, and all those other little wierdo registers.
then we moved on to using CPM.
then dos--eww.
On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Austin L. Denyer wrote:
It also helps
So run your email through a filter before downloading it? Combine that
with serious bitching at your phone company for being overpriced.
For a start, I would have to download at least the headers (which are often
several k) in order to filter.
Secondly, International roaming rates are
No you don't. Just set your email host up with the filters you want. It's
not at all hard unless you have a retarded server. *shrugs*
Which is fine if your ISP allows it (I do not have my own permanent mail
server yet).
It's not just about OT messages. If a list is moderated then fine let
Okay I have been watching this thread and I just can't resist :-)
Let's all join forces (and I do believe that there is a sufficient
number of us) and everyone vote (write-in ballot) for the Gov of
Minnesota -- Jesse "The Body" Ventura giggle Trust me, no one
thought he was going to win
(*) I surely hope they will find some inteligence out there: there must be
inteligence SOMEWHERE in the universe, and there surely ain't much of it on
this planet ;-)
With the current level of sh!t about politics going on here, I'm beginning
to wonder if you'd find much of it on this list
snip a whole load of sh!t about politics with zero relevance to the list
You guys are fixing to become the latest additions to my draconian kill
file.
CUT IT OUT ALREADY!!
Regards,
Ozz.
Please.
Stop this thread. Or go to egroups and start a mailing list for this.
I just pulled mail and deleted over 25 messages about this haggle over
politics.
I don't care about it. Would you like to have 25 messages per day about
the traffic problems in our country?
Paul, from
Thanks for the info! That's an interesting concept. I just went to the
Linux Expo here in Brazil and they had a great talk by the founder of
the LTSP on diskless terminals. Seems like it has a bunch of
advantages, particularly in the coprporate/educational setting.
-Paul
The biggest
I have ME on one of the computers here and it sucks something fierce.
I
had in mind three reasons for using WinME:
1. The new mpg encoding
2. Driver updates so I wouldn't have to search around for them
3. The registry roll back feature.
It just completely fails on 3 -- I get a damn
Netscape has some nasty memory leaks especially for people who use
forms a
lot (web mail) and on systems without enough memory it can, and often
does
flood all avail memory until the box crashes.
Tell me about it. The last time NutScrape crashed on me it locked X
tighter than a duck's a$$
On UK keyboards it is the second ALT key (the one to the right of the
space bar).
Sorry, didn't explain it very well - I'll try again:
The 'ALT' key to the left of the space bar is just called 'ALT'. The
'ALT' key to the right of the space bar is called 'ALT-GR'. This on a
UK keyboard.
My
This will normally happen if you select packages that exceed the
disk
space you have ... 100% = all of the selected packages if its less
that
100% you did not have enough room to install everything ... it tells
you
right on that screen =)
Even if you DO have room, it doesn't
As i'm considering purchasing a laptop i'd like to know if there's a
list of PCMCIA cards supported by Linux.
Try www.linhardware.com.
They list hardware (including PCMCIA) known to work with Linux, along
with links to any additional drivers you may require.
Regards,
Ozz.
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Austin L. Denyer wrote:
Of course, the biggest problem with these new big drives (I see that
Hitachi are selling 72Gb drives on buy.com for $146, and I've seen
80Gb
(I think Maxtor)) is that although one can buy the drives cheaply
enough, how the heck does one back
Quick question. I am running 7.1 on a 4gig hard drive. I would like to
add
another hard drive and install Windows ME on the other one. Can I
dual-boot
between two hard drives?? If so, has this created any problems?
You CAN dual-boot between two different hard drives. However, Windoze
expects
gee whiz guys.. I keep telling you to not give these directions out...
if
they want off of this list, they (really I sware, and I look just like
Bill
Gates, so every one should believe me) just send 10 dollars (US) to
every
one who posts within 24 hours (better make that 48 hours) of your
I have a few programs that are windows based that I wish to run in
linux. Is there any easy way to run them in or port them over to
linux.
Wine might do it, depending on the application.
Otherwise, VMWare can run virtually ANY windoze package - Windoze
actually runs in a window on your
How can I get the amount of hdd spaced used and how much is left on my
machine(multiple hdd's)
Try df - this shows usage/free by partition.
For example, this is the output of df on my laptop:
FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda9 1.7G 1.1G 497M 70% /
Does anyone have power_base-en-A4.ps.gz off the page:
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fdoc.php3
that can email it to me?
Whenever I try to download it, the connection drops
down to 0 Kb/s and sits for hours.
Where would you like it mailing to? I see that you are using a yahoo
address -
First off I would like to say to all that I appreciate the responce
from my posting in regards to the windows program porting. The general
concesses was that vmware is the best.
anyway I was just wondering if there was a eval version included on
the mandrake 7.1 cd or do I have to buy to
What a hard drive. That got my thinking of the old 500mi drive I had
to use
to build a new system recently. And even the old 40 meg drives I have.
And look at what one had to pay for them back then. It wasn't that many
years ago I was paying $150 for a 40Mb drive. I upgraded to a (then
When I downloaded the StarOffice 5.2 from Sun, the download was named
"so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin". When I executed this, the installation
was a
local installation. I have several users of the workstation. The
StarOffice instructions were to run "Setup /net" from the CD-Rom for a
network
IBM was trying to do something similar, but Phoenix reverse engineered
(first successful (in court) reverse engineering ever?) the
motherboard
BIOS chip.
That act began a chain of events that resulted in PCs as we know them.
Have any of you wondered about the "reverse engineering" clause in
Ciao Iacopo.
Non posso aiutarlo con il vostro problema tecnico, ma ho tradotto il
vostro alberino in inglese in moda da potere capire il resto della lista
il vostro problema. Scusare mi Italiano - Io lavore in Italia per solo
dieci meze - Io parlo solo un poco Italiano...
To the rest of you
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Trevor Reynolds wrote:
I don't do it graphically. I use a perl script called multiseti.pl.
Its
parameters let me do all I need;
-status to show what it is doing
-connect to send the processed units and get new ones
-work to run seti on the units
And it can be
If your Linux and Win machines are networked it is very easy to
install
and configure DCHP so that both machine can share your DSL conection.
I also have a USB DSL modem and that is how I set-up my system.
Unfortunately the machines are NOT networked. I wish they were.
However, until
I'll take a look at the scripts from the site and see if I can
decypher
what's going on in them, then let you know.
Mark
Thanks - much appreciated.
Regards,
Ozz.
The script I use is something I downloaded at www.linuxapps.
Just search for multiseti and it is bound to show up. If not, let me
know
and I will send it over to you.
Ok, I went to www.linuxapps.com and could only find something called
mseti - a tcl script. The other thing is, how the blazes
Sorry, but I just couldn't resist. I am 100% against this whole
Napster
thing. I think the whole mess is a HUGE copyright infringment.
I don't know about other countries, but in the UK I could take music CDs
out from my local library, just like a book.
Are they guilty of copyright
When I downloaded the StarOffice 5.2 from Sun, the download was named
"so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin". When I executed this, the installation
was a
local installation. I have several users of the workstation. The
StarOffice instructions were to run "Setup /net" from the CD-Rom for a
All this about Star Office got me curious, so I timed it:
System:
AMD K6-3, 400
Asus p5A-b
RAM = 192 (64 + 128 )
HDA = WD 13.6GB
HDB = WD 30.7GB
SWAP = 128mb
OS = SUSE 6.4 - "Practically Everything" option (HDA is almost full)
So, from starting to move the cursor to the KDE panel icon
Ok, what you do is this:
Install all the SETI files into their own directory.
If you want the graphical version then from a terminal session within X
run
./setiathome -graphics ./xsetiathome
the -graphics tells it to format it's output for the graphical front end
(xsetiathome).
As Abe said,
Linux is fast with 128 megs. It is much faster with
256 and when you put 384 in it really starts to cook.
I imagine that a 'hammer with a gig of ram would
pretty much do everything right as the thought to do
it first crossed your mind.
Imagine a world where X and netscape don't push
P.S.: Any Canon people out there reading this, please direct your
flamethrowers at your marketing department. I'm sure your techs are
smart enough to create the drivers, but marketing hasn't told
management
there's profit in Linux yet it seems.
Tell me about it. I've got a Canon BJC-80.
As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of
learning
Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie
unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like
"Linux for Dummies" for example chapter by chapter?
All of the above.
I would also
Thank you for posting both of your responses twice. I couldn't
undersand
the first time you said it, but the second time really cleared it up
for me.
Are you sure it was his fault? The list server has been randomly
vomiting multiple copies of posts for months now...
Regards,
Ozz.
you have my condolences Ozz. But hey, you can take your linux box
with you
where ever you go! I have to sit at home in front of my desk to use
it.
That's a definately worth it trade off.
How long does it take you to boot StarOffice? I can go make a coffee
while it loads on mine
it actually takes about a minute. I've got a duron 600 machine with
256M of
ram.
envy
It takes my machine 23 hours and 19 minutes to process a data block
for seti
but I only run seti in windows at the moment. Presumably it will be
quite a
bit faster in linux.
You betcha!
Regards,
Ozz.
The mandrake lists are available in several different languages - you
select which one when you subscribe via the website, although I did not
see a Spanish one.
I think the thing that irks most is that the guy states in his e-mail
that he also speaks English and Italian. If he can speak English
Si usted puede entender inglés entonces porqué no POSTE en inglés - esto
es una lista inglesa. Hay versiones de esta lista en otros lenguajes -
cheque el website de Mandrake.
Respeto,
Ozz.
(If you can understand English then why not POST in English - this is an
English list. There are versions
Doug McGarrett wrote:
You could still use RPM. From a terminal window:
$ rpm -Uvh foo-2.0-1.i386.rpm
--doug
What's the Uvh for?
U = Update
v = verbose (tells you what it's doing)
h = hash (prints hash marks as it runs so you can see it's working and
not hung).
Regards,
Ozz.
I was just wondering if anybody knew of a mailer or place to post
questions regarding samba if I can't get the answer out of the howto's
or from this mailer.
I believe there is a samba mailing list at www.samba.org.
Regards,
Ozz.
PS - Please fix your line lengths...
Hi Guys.
I'm looking to install Mandrake 7.1 onto my laptop.
In the absence of a CD burner, or enough disk space on my laptop, I
decided to perform the following kludge:
1. Download the two iso images for Mandrake 7.1 from Mandrake's website
onto my Wife's PC.
2. Boot her machine into Linux
Hi Guys.
First of all I'd like to thank everyone who responded with their views
regarding the Reiser FS. It was very informative, and has convinced me
that I want it!
Thanks again.
Now, on to my next problem.
In the absence of a CD burner, or enough disk space on my laptop, I
decided to
Hi Guys.
After a painful experience with NutScrape crashing (again!) and taking X
with it (requiring a hard reset that blew away half my system) I'm
looking to re-install Mandrake. However, I'm gonna give 7.1 a try this
time.
What are the pros and cons of the Reiser FS? I know that it can
Hi Guys.
I have been making some cosmetic changes to my lilo settings, and could
use a little help.
Basically what I have done is this:
I changed the lilo boot message to say "Where do you REALLY want to go
today?" (this works)
I then changed the labels from 'linux' to 'heaven', and 'win' to
Or like my school useing a 700mhz system for word processing, and not
allowing me to install some games. But they did let the pokénuts
install a 5
minute recording of 'the pikachu song' to play on startup.
I had a similar problem a few years ago with one of the companies I
worked for. I
I am also a fan of das blinkenlights. :)
I even know what some of them are for, at least on my Modem Blaster.
Scary!
;)
LOL!
I actually have the original "warning" that 'das blinkenlights' came
from posted over my computer! I used to have it over my servers at work
too...
I'd better shut
I mostly agree with you but =) i use CS from way
back in the day when CS was for computer geeks, and when
it was a good service. when i started on computers i never
called a tech line once, got all my support thru CS,
especially for Logitech (spelling?) products. it was great.
i
Why not? CompuServe can be made to run on an OS/2 box. If you
look hard enough, there are even software that alow you to connect
to AOL under linux, though I don't remember where. So, if people
are writing software to allow AOL to run on a linux box, someone
is/has probably developed
Sorry - meant to send this to the list, but sent it personally instead.
My apologies to Chris, who will now get two copies...
You use what you have access to. Some of us don't have multipule
choice
regarding ISP's or cable TV
for that matter. It took 7 years to get cable TV up here in
serious snipping
Wow, you guys either have really cheap rent or expensive ram!!!
Back then (early 90s) we were paying 80ukp per megabyte. This equates
to about 130usd. My rent at that time was 220ukp (about 350usd) a month
for a single bedroom apartment.
Even today, prices for computer
Well, when I tried it (which was a good few years ago now) Windoze
3.1 was king, Win95 was still a dream project called Chicago, a
college student called Linus Torvalds had just started releasing a
(then very basic) Minix/unix clone on an unsuspecting world, and
my 486 with 8megs of
Hi.
I'm running Mandrake 7.0-2 on my laptop. I would like to upgrade to 7.1
for the improved USB support.
My previous installation was done by downloading the files from their
website onto a FAT32 partition (I have a Win98 dual boot) and doing a HD
install.
Unfortunately I do not have the
OS/2 was not as hot as it could have been. I seem to recall having
to
set up endless parameters in config settings for every application.
This was WAY beyond the novice.
Wow. I didn't have to do any of that. My workstation had it
preinstalled,
but I found settings were easier to
My linux Madrake 7.1 freezes when I close my laptop. Is this normal?
I
thought Linux was ulta-stable. I have a Dell Inspiron 7500.
I have an Atlas Flyer that used to give a black screen of death on
opening the cover again. However, if I closed the cover and re-opened
it, everything was
Jeff Malka wrote:
Well...maybe Linux isn't for everyone, but then no OS is for
everyone,
IMO. Choice is good...
It is, but for an OS to survive it must attract and "keep" a
sufficient
audience, Otherwise it might have the same fate as OS/2 which is
also an
excellent multiuser
Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone successfully installed the X setiathome screen.
I have just downloaded the text version as I could not get the X version
to work at all. I am using Mandrake 7.1 now.
Thanks in advance
Hi Andrew.
I'm running Seti@Home myself. In order to run
Re-set due to bounce...
Hi.
I am trying to install modutils-2.3.14-1.i386.rpm but I'm getting the
following error:
Dependency Problem:
/sbin/is_depmod_necessary is needed by initscripts-4.72-13mdk
Does anyone know where I can get this file?
Regards,
Ozz.
Hi guys.
I must admit that I am sending much of my e-mail from root. You are
correct in that this is generally a Bad Thing. However, I am making so
many changes to my system at the moment, many of which have to be done
as root, that it is impractical to keep changing.
Once I have got this
Collin Schroeder wrote:
hi my name is collin I am having trouble installing my us robotics 56k
internal voince fax modem. when I use hardrake and detect isa devices it
says that it detects a modem but under kppp I am unable to dial in. I know
the modem uses com2 and irq3 under windows but
Cindy Bartorillo wrote:
I just took a deep breath and updated my kernel from the 2.2.15-4 that came
with my brand-new Mandrake 7.1 to the 2.2.16-9 that the Update feature said I
needed. As recommended I downloaded the rpm's myself and installed them by
hand. Everything seems to have gone
Cindy Bartorillo wrote:
My lilo.conf reads:
image=/boot/vmlinuz
which is a link to the new kernel. So I figured I shouldn't have to change anything.
Does lilo need to be rerun anyway? I'd really like to understand what goes on here.
Yes, lilo does indeed need to be rerun anyway.
Aug 2000 12:42:58 +0100
From: "Austin L. Denyer (SysAdmin.) as root" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Collin Schroeder wrote:
hi my name is collin I am having trouble installing my us robotics 56k
internal voince fax modem. when I use hardrake
I don't know about you guys, but my last few posts have been bouncing...
Regards,
Ozz.
You are right - I made a typo for hda4 - that should have read hda5. It
is hda4 that does not exist on this system.
Thank you for pointing out my error.
Regards,
Ozz.
"L. H. LOO" wrote:
PMJI, I thought you should have a hda5 partition ? But I could be wrong,
since I am such a "sin kek"
Romanator wrote:
I must have spent half a day formatting and repartitioning. Windows 95,
Windows 98 require
a single DOS partition for M$ Setup to continue. I always make a single FAT
partition just in case. For some bizarre reason, if you have multiple
paritions with FAT32, Win98 will not
It's freshmeat.net, NOT .com
Regards,
Ozz.
A V Flinsch wrote:
On Fri, 04 Aug 2000, you wrote:
Works fine for me.
Has anyone else besides me had trouble getting to Freshmeat.com the past few
days?
I have been having problems on and off for the past week. It seems to depend on
Carjam wrote:
Yes. It is expensive. It is also free, if you know where to look. Not sure
how much it costs for an official copy. Interlink, however, is free. It
comes with dos, and it is technically illegial to download or distribute it.
But it is not for sale anywere, so your not doing
Anybody else on this list old enough to remember when the "suits"
didn't run things, and games/software were ported to every single
platform, just because they could/it was neat? Circa '80's with
names like Tandy, Atari, Amiga, etc, etc,... ;-)
Oh yes - those were the days!
nostalgia
Romanator wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to install Boot Magic but the installation is prompting me
for a serial number.
Look on the sticker. It came on a CD with: "The Multi-Boot Configuration
Handbook"
I would like to check out this boot loader for my Linux MDK7.1 and
WinNT4.
Where can I
Tim wrote:
Hi all,
Just spent FOREVER downloading Star Office 5.2 from the Sun site ("only" 100
MB ... dunno why it took all day. My ISP will blame net-congestion, Sun
would blame my ISP ... in any case the file's here).
Me too - I'm on a 56k modem ;-(
It's a file ending in .bin I can
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