CS>Rising to the Challenge?

2001-09-28 Thread Jan Carew
Why hasn't Terri's list contribution stirred up some discussion? (See below if you missed it) Come on, you knowledgeable folk, why aren't you rising to the challenge? I bet Oprah would welcome doing a show on CS - it's such a controversial subject and Oprah loves controversy. If I wasn't such

Re: CS>Pyramid etc. South Florida

2001-09-28 Thread chris.osborne
I hope you enjoy the book it gets really interesting from chapter IV Passage to the tomb that's the one 900+ feet below all those written about regards Chris -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mai

Re: CS>Rising to the Challenge?

2001-09-28 Thread Arthur Rambo
Jan, it seems that this story, or a variation of it has been addressed here several times already. Are you suggesting to contact Oprah or some other idea? My first hunch tells me that you should be prepared to deal with the "quackbuster" types who will surely slither out of the woodwork, if

RE: CS>Rising to the Challenge?

2001-09-28 Thread JudytheK
RE: Quackbuster types. I mailed a bottle of CS to a friend in PA. She had been treated without success for 11 months by her surgeon for a post-op open-wound infection at the incision site. She was healed after topical use for 3 days. The doctor now recommends CS to all his patients for use on his

Re: CS>Rising to the Challenge?

2001-09-28 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 9/28/2001 3:42:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ja...@gatorzw.com writes: > Subj:CS>Rising to the Challenge? > Date:9/28/2001 3:42:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From:ja...@gatorzw.com (Jan Carew) > Reply-to: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com";>silver-list@eskimo.com > To:silve

Re: CS>Rising to the Challenge?

2001-09-28 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 9/28/2001 7:09:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, apea...@midcoast.com writes: > Subj:RE: CS>Rising to the Challenge? > Date:9/28/2001 7:09:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From:apea...@midcoast.com (JudytheK) > Reply-to: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com";>silver-list@eskimo.com > To:

Re: CS>Rising to the Challenge?

2001-09-28 Thread Arthur Rambo
Very good point, Judy. BTW, I was cut by a piece of roofing slate on the arm last week. Poured CS into the fairly deep wound(almost needed stitches) and pulled it back together with tape; two weeks later, it looks like a minor scratch had taken place. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum fo

CS>Ions vs Particles

2001-09-28 Thread K E Nolan
As a newcomer to the less-than-simple CS scene, I have been intrigued over the recent debating involving Messrs Quinto, Key, and Anderson - ions or particles - which are best in vivo? Perhaps there is another aspect that might alter the equation (including the solubility product equations Roger

RE: CS>Rising to the Challenge?

2001-09-28 Thread JudytheK
Roger -- according to my friend, this was the most UNmaverick doc she's ever been to (she's 67.) She was astonished by his apparent switch.Of course that's subjective, but doesn't change the circumstances. Judy Down Maine -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.

CS>OK, List, an email question from a grandmother.

2001-09-28 Thread JudytheK
1. When I hit "reply" my cursor goes automatically to the TOP of the letter, where I type my comment, it being the latest message. 2. I also delete most of the message I'm replying to (except for relevant stuff) and 3. delete the cs list info because I know it will be printed again. It drives me N

Re: CS>Rising to the Challenge?

2001-09-28 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 9/28/2001 9:00:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, apea...@midcoast.com writes: > Roger -- according to my friend, this was the most UNmaverick doc she's ever > been to (she's 67.) > She was astonished by his apparent switch.Of course that's subjective, but > doesn't change the cir

CS>Fw: FW: Please Read and Forward to Everyone You Can Think of

2001-09-28 Thread Gil DiSanto
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RE: CS>Rising to the Challenge?

2001-09-28 Thread Quietcove
Wasn't CS FDA approved in 1936 Roger? qc -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Rising to the Challenge? In a message dated 9/28/2001 9:00:19 AM Eastern Daylight

Re: CS>Pyramid etc. South Florida

2001-09-28 Thread Harsha Godavari
Chris: I seem to have missed the earlier message..What book is this you are referring below? Regards Harsha Godavari "chris.osborne" wrote: > I hope you enjoy the book it gets really interesting from chapter IV > Passage to the tomb that's the one 900+ feet below all those written a

Re: CS>Rising to the Challenge?

2001-09-28 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 9/28/2001 9:38:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, quiet...@midcoast.com writes: > Wasn't CS FDA approved in 1936 Roger? > > qc > QC: Oh, if it were that simple. There have been at least two additional CS pronouncements from the FDA since that time. I believe the latest one was

RE: CS>Ions vs Particles

2001-09-28 Thread Stephen Quinto
Kevin, No one we know of has done the research necessary to establish in-vivo efficacy of any silver product let alone comparatives between them. The product you mention is stabilized at a pH of 4.24 and is clear. [As you probably know, blood is 7.4]. When raised to pH7, to simulate the effec

Re: CS>Rising to the Challenge?

2001-09-28 Thread Marshall Dudley
No, the FDA was formed around that time, to stamp out remidies that worked but did not make the pharms any money. Marshall Quietcove wrote: > Wasn't CS FDA approved in 1936 Roger?qc > > -Original Message- > From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com] > Sent: Friday

Re: CS>Ions vs Particles

2001-09-28 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 9/28/2001 10:20:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com writes: > The solubility issue is another matter. I meant to repond to Roger's post > with the following: we've seen and worked with products from > concentrations of 3ppm on the low side to 3,200ppm

CS>Re: Reid Harvey

2001-09-28 Thread Robert Berger
Reid , I would like to answer you directly but I never get a complete email address for you. All that comes through is ceram...@bol- My URL will not accept that. "Ole Bob" - -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-

Re: CS>Rising to the Challenge?

2001-09-28 Thread panamabob
Sometimes we wonder why allopathic Dr.s won't use CS or coconut oil or the multitude of seemingly successful procedures that are out there. "Are they real Dr's looking to heal?" we may ask, and rightly so, especially if it is OUR quality of life on the line or even our very existence. But we

RE: CS>Rising to the Challenge?

2001-09-28 Thread Quietcove
As much as I'd like to believe that theory, the FDA was formed due to public outcry because a company released a new cough syrup (late 1920s) with an ethylene glycol base. After several hundred people died what I imagine was a fairly horrible death, congress formed the FDA. Since then the pharms ha

RE: CS>Ions vs Particles

2001-09-28 Thread Stephen Quinto
Thanks, Roger guess I did. But it is not so. We've got formulations based on our std 10ppm product of 23ppm 34ppm and higher -- all as might be characterized as ionic. The truth is no doubt more complex, ie. there is 'ionic' and there is 'ionic'. We're working at a level of scientific inqui

Re: CS>Rising to the Challenge?

2001-09-28 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 9/28/2001 10:38:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, panama...@email.msn.com writes: > Subj:Re: CS>Rising to the Challenge? > Date:9/28/2001 10:38:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From:panama...@email.msn.com (panamabob) > Reply-to: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com";>silver-list@eskimo.

RE: CS>Feedback on list direction...

2001-09-28 Thread Ode Coyote
I have learned a great deal from the techie talk even though a lot of it goes over my head. All I have to do is stand up a bit more, ey? ..and I do have a delete key Ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send

Re: CS>Ions vs Particles

2001-09-28 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 9/28/2001 10:50:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com writes: > Thanks, Roger > guess I did. But it is not so. We've got formulations based on our > std 10ppm product of 23ppm 34ppm and higher -- all as might be > characterized as ionic. The truth i

CS>User propagated computer viruses...

2001-09-28 Thread M. G. Devour
Gil forwarded: > > >Subject: FW: Please Read and Forward to Everyone You Can Think of >> Rick Bachofner wrote: THOUGH SHE'S DEAD AND HAS JUST BEEN >> LOCATED, AFTER 5 YEARS, THIS LADY CONTINUES TO HAUNT US FROM HER >> SHALLOW GRAVE. GET THIS: CBS will discontinue "Touched by an Angel" >> for using

Re: CS>Ions vs Particles

2001-09-28 Thread Kehoe
I went to that site and am still amazed that these people have no shame in charging an outrageous price for a product that cost them so little to produce and package. CK - Original Message - From: K E Nolan To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 7:28 AM

RE: CS>Silver against Viruses?

2001-09-28 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
What about the possibility that it can attach to the molecule in a fashion that will prevent replication? Virons are not "alive" either, but CS is effective against some cases of Hepatitis C. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sen

RE: CS>Silver against Viruses?

2001-09-28 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Several years ago, the "governments" claimed that smallpox was eradicated. EXCEPT, for some they kept for "research". They subsequently made a genetically engineered version that is even more virulent than the natural strains. The Brits and US have the stuff. I apologize for having no cite. W

RE: CS>Ions vs Particles

2001-09-28 Thread Stephen Quinto
Roger, The reason I said the fact of the matter is confounding is this: the ionic content in a formulation is not quite so simple. The ionic silver content is in all likelihood complexed with whatever impurities were present in the water to begin with or that it has taken from the air. Such r

Re: CS>OK, List, an email question from a grandmother.

2001-09-28 Thread CKing001
Judy, If you highlight the portion you want to reference before hitting "reply", it will appear in your e-mail that you are sending and eliminate all the other stuff. This makes organizing a snap. You can't do anything about others that refuse to take the time to learn the features of their mail cl

Re: CS>Silver against Viruses?

2001-09-28 Thread Marshall Dudley
Virons are considered the lowest form of life by most. They contain DNA and they replicate when supplied with the appropriate environment. They can spontaneously change by changes in their DNA. Marshall "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: > What about the possibility that it can attach to the mole

Re: CS>Mild Silver Protein

2001-09-28 Thread Ode Coyote
Filing a patent and getting one is two different animals. Anyone can put a patent pending sticker on something that's not already 'known' to be patented. It's a scare tactic and marketing hype that says, "don't bother to copy this" and "we have something special". But it means nothing except th

CS>This is worth listening to

2001-09-28 Thread Marshall Dudley
http://mfile.akamai.com/5022/wma/artbell.download.akamai.com/5022/shows/01/09/artbell010928.asx This is the Ed Dames interview on Art Bell from last night. He starts at the 1:08 or so hour point. Here are some of the things said: * Diseases will run rampant shortly * We will be getting

CS>Subscription change

2001-09-28 Thread wolfcreek1
Please unsubscribe me from the digest version and put me on the individual e-mails. Thank you! Happy Howling, Julie & Critters Wolf Creek Ranch mailto:wolfcre...@earthlink.net http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/index.html Home of Whispering Winds Wholistic Animal Sanctuary "The person who says i

Re: CS>Ions vs Particles

2001-09-28 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 9/28/2001 12:44:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com writes: > Subj:RE: CS>Ions vs Particles > Date:9/28/2001 12:44:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From:squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com (Stephen Quinto) > Reply-to: HREF="mailto:squi...@natural-immunogenics.co

Re: CS>This is worth listening to

2001-09-28 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 9/28/2001 1:39:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: > Subj:CS>This is worth listening to > Date:9/28/2001 1:39:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From:mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) > Reply-to: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com";>silver-list@eskimo.com >

RE: CS>Ions vs Particles

2001-09-28 Thread Stephen Quinto
Roger, we are already talking about very dilute systems. 10ppm is one part per 100,000. So ionic impurities take on greater proportionate values.. Stephen -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 1:46 PM To: silver-list

Re: CS>This is worth listening to

2001-09-28 Thread Marshall Dudley
Are you sure? Ed has consistantly said that they cannot date events. They can't even date events in the past, much less the future. Marshall rogalt...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/28/2001 1:39:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > mdud...@execonn.com writes: > > > >> Subj:CS>This is worth list

Re: CS>Ions vs Particles

2001-09-28 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 9/28/2001 2:07:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com writes: > Roger, > we are already talking about very dilute systems. 10ppm is one part per > 100,000. So ionic impurities take on greater proportionate values.. > Stephen > Stephen: No, the more dil

Re: CS>Silver against Viruses?

2001-09-28 Thread Robert Bartell
This GEVirus and others are stored in Atlanta, GA which explains why fully armed fighter aircraft were overflying the city all day on 9/11/01 and the next day. Robert - Original Message - From: "James Osbourne, Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: RE: CS>Silver

RE: CS>Ions vs Particles

2001-09-28 Thread Stephen Quinto
Roger, We're not discussing the solubility issue you raised. My argument is really confined to the 'ionic vs the ionic' These are two different subjects. Stephen -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:24 PM To: silver-

Re: CS>This is worth listening to

2001-09-28 Thread Robert Berger
Roger, I read your post about Ed Dames report, and All I can say is the man does not know his bible prophecy. I have been teaching bible verse by verse for about 45 years, and have spent about 35 years studying prophecy, and the last 10 years my teaching has been endtime prophecies. Ed is abou

Re: CS>This is worth listening to/positive imaging

2001-09-28 Thread Nina Silver
- Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:08 PM Subject: Re: CS>This is worth listening to > >> Diseases will run rampant shortly > >> We will be getting a national id card, which will contain the > >> Biblical mark of the beast. ETC. ETC. ETC. E

Re: CS>Ions vs Particles

2001-09-28 Thread Robert Berger
Roger & Stephen, There is a very great difference between making HVAC ARC with and without the CO2 blanket. When using the CO2 blanket the conductivity is generally around 100 tp 300 uS/cc and the NO3 is 2 to 4 PPM. Without the CO2 the conductivity hits 850+ uS/cc and the NO3 will have an ini

Re: CS>User propagated computer viruses...

2001-09-28 Thread Cynthia
Anyway...this is a hoax ;) - Original Message - From: "M. G. Devour" To: "Gil DiSanto" ; Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:19 AM Subject: CS>User propagated computer viruses... > Gil forwarded: > > > >Subject: FW: Please Read and Forward to Everyone You Can Think of > > >> Rick

CS>Sore throat

2001-09-28 Thread topcat
Thank you people, for your concern and advice. My system is a 240V to 12V transformer resisted to a bit over 1 mA and I stir it with an old knitting needle bored out to fit the shaft on a 12V motor out of an old cassette player, that is resisted too, to slow it down a bit. The silver is 12 ga r

CS>Re: positive imaging

2001-09-28 Thread Nina Silver
The method is called the Emotional Freedom Technique, an amazing bodymind system that intercepts negative reactions. After thousands of dollars in learning various techniques, this engineer named Gary Craig figured out an extremely simple way to eliminate PTSD, physical illnesses, emotional blocks,

Re: CS>OT My crop circle pictures

2001-09-28 Thread Terry Dickinson
Try this for a new one. Ooo-arr going OT again! http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2001/MilkHill2/milkhill2001a.html Regards Terry Marshalee Hallett wrote: > > > I just posted this site. I think some of you will find it interesting. > > > > http://www.execonn.com/cropcircles/ > > > > Marshall

Re: CS>OT My crop circle pictures

2001-09-28 Thread Marshall Dudley
Nothing anomlous there. Marshall Terry Dickinson wrote: > Try this for a new one. Ooo-arr going OT again! > > http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2001/MilkHill2/milkhill2001a.html > > Regards Terry > > Marshalee Hallett wrote: > > > > > I just posted this site. I think some of you will find it

RE: CS>Ions vs Particles

2001-09-28 Thread Stephen Quinto
Ole Bob, That's a pretty good analysis. Lots of possible ionic complexes in the formulations! Stephen -Original Message- From: Robert Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 4:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Ions vs Particles Roge

Re: CS>Fw: FW: Please Read and Forward to Everyone You Can Think of

2001-09-28 Thread Carol
This is a hoax that has been on the internet for years. I had checked it out with the FCC and they confirmed this as a hoax. - Original Message - From: "Gil DiSanto" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:28 AM Subject: CS>Fw: FW: Please Read and Forward to Everyone You Can Think of >

Re: CS>OT My crop circle pictures

2001-09-28 Thread Frank Key
Anyone who wants to grab the jpeg image of the Milkhill cropcircle it is at: http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2001/MilkHill2/MilkHillMegaJulia.jpg frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail

CS>Tech. talk

2001-09-28 Thread larry tankersley
Dear list... I've been lurking the past couple of months as time has allowed. And also messing with my home made CS generator [still no current control] [ Ken, would you post another schematic on your current control method [less the short] And if you will,draw it large and clear with part #'s a

Re: CS>Feedback on list direction...

2001-09-28 Thread George Martin
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:52:37 +, M. G. Devour wrote: =>Almost no one has seen fit to reply directly to my comments on list =>values and direction, yet several folks have made remarks like yours, =>George. Perhaps the situation I was responding to is no longer =>obvious and needs to be recapp

RE: CS>Feedback on list direction...

2001-09-28 Thread George Martin
Ken, That is the proper attitude. It is amazing how subjects that were once "over ones head" hit you squarely in the face when you elevate yourself with a base of knowledge to stand on. I still don't understand why it is expected for me to use my delete key to remove off topic pos

Re: CS>Sore throat

2001-09-28 Thread CKing001
If it were me then, I'd try putting an eyedropperful in each ear. Larry, the molecular man, advocates that infections such as flu or colds are caught through the ear passages to the throat. His treatment is dilute hydrogen peroxide. I'd use CS though. You have to get it to the pathogens. Whataya go

CS>Re> Reid Harvey

2001-09-28 Thread Reid Harvey
Ole Bob, If you can keep your response friendly I suggest there's no reason not to post it to the entire list, or to the off topic list, and not just to me. After all the OT list was where that correspondence was to begin with. Perhaps others would be interested in your response as well. For thos

Re: CS>This is worth listening to

2001-09-28 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 9/28/2001 2:34:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: > Subj:Re: CS>This is worth listening to > Date:9/28/2001 2:34:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From:mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) > Reply-to: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com";>silver-list@eskimo.co

Re: CS>Ions vs Particles

2001-09-28 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 9/28/2001 4:11:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com writes: > Roger, > We're not discussing the solubility issue you raised. My argument is > really confined to the 'ionic vs the ionic' > These are two different subjects. > Stephen > Stephen: Perhap

Re: CS>This is worth listening to

2001-09-28 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 9/28/2001 4:20:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bober...@swbell.net writes: > Subj:Re: CS>This is worth listening to > Date:9/28/2001 4:20:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From:bober...@swbell.net (Robert Berger) > Reply-to: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com";>silver-list@eskimo.com

Re: CS>This is worth listening to

2001-09-28 Thread Marshall Dudley
Here is a list of predictions made by Ed in the late 90's. I agree the record is pretty dismal. Several are hits, and of course if no time limit was given, things could still happen. :< >From http://www.cybercitycafe.com/1999.html Ed Dames (Psi-Tech) - Dames stated: not psychic predictions, but