Re: [OSM-talk] no osmf-talk link at listinfo

2017-12-19 Thread Marc Gemis
It's listed on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists Just click on the "archive" link there to access it (read-only of course) as a non OSMF member. m. On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 4:19 AM, Sérgio V. wrote: > Of course I understand, and support, that sending emails

Re: [OSM-talk-be] road completion project

2017-11-14 Thread Marc Gemis
> You can go to the overview of the challenge (what you call 'task', the > collection of all wegenregister cases) by selecting the little 'cogs' on the > top right and then click 'view challenge', then you get all the little task > on one big map. This way you can select tasks in your area.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] road completion project

2017-11-14 Thread Marc Gemis
I've tried a couple of "tasks". I found it pretty hard to fill in the proper road type without being familiar with the local situation. The fact that Wegenregister adds a name to each and every long drive way is not going to help with the OSM data quality. So I gave up and went back to processing

Re: [OSM-talk-be] road completion project

2017-11-14 Thread Marc Gemis
t's a driveway, > but how's that different from what we've been doing all along based on > imagery? > > If anyone else has questions, feel free! Also, don't map when you're not > sure! It's better not to have data, compared to having bad useless data. > > Cheers, > Ben > > On Tue, N

Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

2017-11-20 Thread Marc Gemis
The possibility to work more locally. E.g. there is a project to add missing roads in Belgium, I would really like to see only the "issues" within let say 20km of my house (an arbitrary point I can set). m. On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi all, > >

Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

2017-11-20 Thread Marc Gemis
to best do this yet. One solution would be to filter by challenge > ‘centroids’ (simple), another would be to consider whatever challenge has at > least one task within the current map bounds (harder). What would be your > idea about this? Others with an opinion? > -- > Martijn van

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-11-02 Thread Marc Gemis
The current situation is not helping in producing useful maps. Too often I find myself in a residential area with large gardens and trees when I expected to find a real forest based on what OSM is displaying. So there is room for improvement. I like the landcover=trees idea, but this does not

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-11-02 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 02-Nov-17 08:58 PM, Tomas Straupis wrote: >> >> 2017-11-02 11:24 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis wrote: >>> >>> The current situation is not helping in producing useful maps. Too >&g

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-10-25 Thread Marc Gemis
Please tell me where the wikipedia link is in e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q37344570 :-) Wikidata does not have to be a bunch of links to wikipedia articles. It has references to 2 external DBs (ODIS & Onroerend erfgoed), so it should be considered notable. I have no idea how many bad

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM editor for cycling infrastructure on smartphone?

2018-05-09 Thread Marc Gemis
https://www.mapcontrib.xyz/ has a number of dedicated "apps". Search for bicycle on the home page. On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Is there anywhere an app for editing specifically bicycle infrastructure > elements in OSM: bicycle paths, shared

Re: [OSM-talk] Local language help

2018-05-10 Thread Marc Gemis
Don't you think that Belgians like Jo and the rest of the Belgian community know best what the default language is in a certain area ? This can be a pretty sensitive topic, which is not always easy to understand by outsiders. So please let the Belgian community decide the default language without

[OSM-talk] Mapper of the Month: Yasunari Yamashita (Japan)

2018-05-11 Thread Marc Gemis
This month we interviewed 2 Japanese mappers. The first interview is can be found on the Belgian website [1]. The Japanese version as a diary entry [2]. The second one will be publish in the next couple of days. I hope you enjoy reading it. regards m. [1]

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-04 Thread Marc Gemis
The wiki page of amenity=drinking_water lists 2 apps: [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bplaced.tapwater [2] http://wetap.org/ I've never tried them. m. On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > I am looking for an application for Android displaying >

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-04 Thread Marc Gemis
And of course you can use one of the mapcontrib "apps", e.g. https://www.mapcontrib.xyz/t/8a9a5d-Eau_potable (or make your own) regards m On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > The wiki page of amenity=drinking_water lists 2 apps: > [1] https://play.google.com/st

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mappen van spoorweginfrastructuur

2018-06-29 Thread Marc Gemis
Volgens Richard Fairhurst worden blockades voorgesteld door nodes nu wel ondersteund door OSRM and Graphhopper, zie commentaar van "Richard" op mijn antwoord bij https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/64292/do-you-add-a-gate-by-node-on-a-way-or-by-adding-a-point-by-itself De wereld staat dus

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mappen van spoorweginfrastructuur

2018-06-29 Thread Marc Gemis
dat is nochtans hoe het beschreven staat op de wiki : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Eimai/Belgian_Roads#Paths On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 6:33 PM Wouter Hamelinck wrote: > > >> > Op zich is er geen reden om die weg te splitsen: die nodes met >> > barrier=block zouden moeten volstaan voor

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mappen van spoorweginfrastructuur

2018-06-23 Thread Marc Gemis
die tag is volgens mij enkele jaren geleden op deze mailing list besproken. aangezien het zo goed als onmogelijk is om het archief te doorzoeken, laat ik dat aan een ander over om die discussie terug te vinden. Omdat er toen geen andere tags beschikbaar waren hebben we die tag ingevoerd. Tagging

Re: [OSM-talk-be] LiDAR

2017-10-22 Thread Marc Gemis
AFAIK we hardly have any elevation data, i.e. building heights. OSM does not store elevation data for landscape features (contour lines), although we can put ele on mountain tops. I've seen a few blog posts on using LiDAR for OSM, but can't remember where. There was a presentation at a SOTM:

Re: [OSM-talk] Tool for tag tracking

2018-01-11 Thread Marc Gemis
Oleksiy, Is your planned tool similar to : http://tagfinder.herokuapp.com/ ? m. On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: > I work on a tool to view a certain tag on the map for a non-programmer, for > those who do not speak English (a language could

[OSM-talk-be] AIV import tool - discussie

2018-01-09 Thread Marc Gemis
(In Dutch as it is about the import of buildings in Flanders). Gisteren was er een levendige discussie op het Matrix (aka Riot) channel over de import. Het ging hierbij om het volgende: momenteel zorgt de tool ervoor dat je de gebouwen in JOSM krijgt met de building=house of de building=shed tag.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] Way access mismatch relation route=bicycle

2018-01-18 Thread Marc Gemis
interpretations and findings from the ground lead to > different tagging of R roads. > > -Original Message- > From: Marc Gemis [mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 07:16 > To: OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re

Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] Way access mismatch relation route=bicycle

2018-01-18 Thread Marc Gemis
I think https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Highways gives the solution, there needs to be an F9 sign. If not, it is a primary. regards m On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 10:24 AM, OSMDoudou <19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Can you help

Re: [OSM-talk-be] AIV import tool - discussie

2018-01-10 Thread Marc Gemis
/$1515412099750267NwXZF:matrix.org m. 2018-01-10 9:18 GMT+01:00 Jakka <vdmfrank...@gmail.com>: > Vanaf waar kan ik deze herlezen in riot ? > Ben aan scrollen geweest maar nie direct conversatie gevonden > > > > Op 9/01/2018 om 9:51 schreef Marc Gemis: >> >> (In Dutch as

Re: [OSM-talk-be] temporary cycle routes

2018-02-02 Thread Marc Gemis
The road properties are mapped on the road. The relation (also for motorways) should not impose this. The E34-relation contains segments with traffic signals, so it's not all freeway/motorway. We should differentiate between fiets-o-strade-the-cycleway and fiets-o-strade-the-route. The latter can

Re: [OSM-talk-be] low emission zones

2018-02-02 Thread Marc Gemis
Is the R10 part of the LEZ ? On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 8:50 AM, joost schouppe wrote: > Jo, that's right. The Antwerp one was supposed to be "everything within the > ring road". But you need to put the infrastructure somewhere, and then the > polygon needs to reflect that

Re: [OSM-talk-be] temporary cycle routes

2018-02-01 Thread Marc Gemis
I would only map them if they are signposted. So if there are signs indicating how you get from one dedicated fiets-o-strade section to another via "regular" roads, no problem. If there are no signs, let the router decide the route based on other tags. As for the concrete that has to be placed on

Re: [OSM-talk] diversity-talk: No such list

2018-02-21 Thread Marc Gemis
I know of at least 1 person that got banned from the tagging mailing list for 2 weeks or so for using inappropriate language. regards m. On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 20. Feb 2018, at 02:50, Kate Chapman

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapping of motorways - use of int_ref tag on nodes?

2018-06-22 Thread Marc Gemis
int_ref only on way. I think most motorways in Belgium where mapped correctly, before this change. Perhaps a mistake of the user which selected ways and nodes before adding/changing the int_ref ? Feel free to reach out to the mapper that made the mistake. regards m. On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 1:26

Re: [OSM-talk] Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM

2018-08-02 Thread Marc Gemis
isn't this just a variation on what3words [1] or Plus Codes from Google [2] ? Why would you enforce an address string made from 26 strange characters to people that might never have seen the English alphabet ? m. [1] https://what3words.com/ [2] https://plus.codes/ On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:45

Re: [OSM-talk-be] int_ref, ref spelling, no space between letter and number....

2018-08-12 Thread Marc Gemis
When you search for "blank" on Wikipedia, you will find some disambiguation pages (a.o https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blank_space), and finally end up on : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_(punctuation) So space is correct. m. p.s. Do we need to ask people not to write in Dutch whenever they

Re: [OSM-talk-be] JOSM preset "Mapping in Belgium" updated (Santens Seppe)

2018-08-08 Thread Marc Gemis
is gebeurd. Ik dacht dat ik dat een tijdje geleden al had aangepast, maar ik had blijkbaar enkel de 2 andere tags vervangen door emergency=life_ring On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 2:17 PM Philippe Casteleyn wrote: > > Ik zou > > > > weg laten. > > ___ >

Re: [OSM-talk] building=grandstand vs leisure=bleachers

2018-07-14 Thread Marc Gemis
You asked the exact same question in April 2018 on the tagging mailing list, not ? I like the response Philip Barnes gave you back then: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-April/035662.html. bleachers = open structures, without walls, grandstands with walls, roofs and often

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Note tells OSM fails

2018-09-04 Thread Marc Gemis
Adams wrote: > > In the margin and without wishing to enter politics, allow me to insist > we should name the village by its primary and original name "Kraainem". > > > On 04/09/18 09:39, Marc Gemis wrote: > > Here is the answer I gave on the note: > > >

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Note tells OSM fails

2018-09-05 Thread Marc Gemis
spelling for french (but i had never seen it before). Maybe we should change > the tag and put it like that "name:fr=Kraainem" and "alt_name:fr= Crainhem" ? > > Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 20:43, Marc Gemis a écrit : >> >> I replied with the same names as per

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Note tells OSM fails

2018-09-05 Thread Marc Gemis
gt; the Flemish Region don't apply. > > Regards, > Gerard > > Marc Gemis wrote: > > What about the railway station > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/250310431 ? Still uses Crainhem. Is > that the official name used by NMBS ? > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:40 AM Lionel

Re: [OSM-talk] Scientific paper on "Information Seeding"

2018-07-09 Thread Marc Gemis
> Compare that with the AND import of the Netherlands where the data was > accurate and needed only minor fixing but where the bulk has just been > untouched (except for adding metadata) and is still the base of the map > in the Netherlands. I hope you are not referring to the building import nor

[OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the Month

2018-07-13 Thread Marc Gemis
In case you didn't know, we still publish mapper of the month interviews every month :-) This time: Lionel Giard (Belgium). en: http://www.osm.be/2018/07/13/en-motm-lionel_giard.html fr: http://www.osm.be/2018/07/13/fr-motm-lionel_giard.html nl:

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to avoid that names are on all buildings

2018-01-17 Thread Marc Gemis
To answer how you have to map this, you first have to answer: what is "Clintonpark" ? - an area - a collection of buildings ? - a collection of identically named buildings ? m. On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Jakka wrote: > Hi, > > Every building with a different house

Re: [OSM-talk-be] fietsknooppunten onder een nieuwe licentie

2018-01-22 Thread Marc Gemis
Lijkt op "BY-SA" , want "De bronvermelding moet gebeuren als volgt ‘Vlaamse Toeristische Organisaties’." Dus moet je toelating zien te krijgen opdat vermelding op de OSM website voldoende is. m. 2018-01-22 19:38 GMT+01:00 joost schouppe : > Hoi, > > Heeft iemand een

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Ourthe = path?

2018-04-12 Thread Marc Gemis
In dit geval zal het wel fout zijn, maar bij een rivierbedding die bv. de helft van het jaar droog staat en dan als pad gebruikt wordt, denk ik dat de combinatie wel kan. m. p.s. is er al iemand bezig met het terugdraaien + contacteren van de mapper ? 2018-04-12 1:06 GMT+02:00 Gerard

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Nodes or areas to tag amenities

2018-04-18 Thread Marc Gemis
the area used >> for amenity=restaurant. maybe it should be the area for the dining room. >> the wiki advice to put both tag to the same polygon look like wrong. >> >> >> Le 18. 04. 18 à 11:56, Marc Gemis a écrit : >> > o, I forgot, what about a restaurant that oc

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Nodes or areas to tag amenities

2018-04-18 Thread Marc Gemis
The idea of using indoor mapping is good, and it's probably the future to solve all the problems you mention. (we had a similar discussion last Friday on the Riot channel) Some remarks: - does it make sense for a "room" to have an house number and a street ? I would expect those on the building,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Nodes or areas to tag amenities

2018-04-18 Thread Marc Gemis
o, I forgot, what about a restaurant that occupies multiple floors ? On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:55 AM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: > The idea of using indoor mapping is good, and it's probably the future > to solve all the problems you mention. (we had a similar discu

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalk symmetry

2018-04-24 Thread Marc Gemis
I wonder why those arguments always pop up when we talk about separate sidewalks and not when we talk about separate cycleways. AFAIK it is common practice to map cycleways as separate ways in OSM as soon as there is a kerb. Don't we encounter the same problems in data processing for cycleways ?

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-24 Thread Marc Gemis
FYI The unisex tag is also used as a shorthand for female=yes, male=yes on shop=hairdresser [1] . Giving it another meaning on toilets might cause extra confusion. regards m [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop=hairdresser Op di 24 apr. 2018 18:27 schreef Rory McCann

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgium Local Chapter application, community feedback wanted

2018-03-30 Thread Marc Gemis
I have confidence that the people behind the application know what they do and I hope that a local chapter will be beneficial for OpenStreetMap in Belgium. regards m. On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:41 AM, joost schouppe wrote: > Martijn from the OpenStreetMap Foundation

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to request arbitration?

2018-04-01 Thread Marc Gemis
Did you contact the owner of the airfield to find out how they name it ? Did you find a sign along the street pointing to the airfield with a name ? Is there a name sign at the entrance ? Is there an official document from a government which mentions a name ? If all of those questions return

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bonjour a tous

2018-04-03 Thread Marc Gemis
Je ne comprend pas quel lien vous utilisez: https://www.openstreetmap.org, https://tiles.openstreetmap.org, https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org ? Il y a 2 document qui donne des limites pour les serveurs d' OpenStreetMap Foundation: https://operations.osmfoundation.org/policies/tiles/ et

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Conflation OpenData Brussels

2018-04-04 Thread Marc Gemis
Hallo, The more automated the conflation is done, the more strict the import guidelines have to be followed. There are a number of tools that come to my mind: - JOSM with OpenData & Conflation plugins - Glenn's tool for GRB building import might be adaptable for your use - Ilya Zverik's

Re: [OSM-talk-be] volunteers needed in Mons, Namur and Liege for the national mapathon

2018-03-20 Thread Marc Gemis
Feel free to take some slides of https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1IyyzXXyBWb6sO0U4Z5mROAmChKDPcaVCMa0ozG4h_q8/edit?usp=sharing (I will try to make the presentation more consistent -- all black on white) It might be hard to understand since I do not write notes under slides, and avoid to

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Can this site help to improve data ????

2018-03-04 Thread Marc Gemis
People use that to scan out-of-copyright maps and make them available in editors. Only useful for "old" things: such as historic boundaries, historic buildings, etc. The Irish community used that side to map all their historic boundaries. regards m On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Jakka

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Marc Gemis
e: > W dniu 26.04.2018 o 14:49, Marc Gemis pisze: >> The name for the country in the name tag is " België / Belgique / Belgien" >> (*) >> The name for any street in Brussels is either " - " >> or " - " with the majority mapped with Fren

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Marc Gemis
18 at 2:16 PM, Daniel Koć <daniel@koć.pl> wrote: > W dniu 26.04.2018 o 13:53, Marc Gemis pisze: >> Do you now assume that names in region B outside city C have a >> namehr;nameit in the name tag? > > Yes, unless stated otherwise for cities E, F and G. > > To be clear

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where can I geocode 3 mln addresses?

2018-11-09 Thread Marc Gemis
Keep in mind that the address database of OSM is far from complete. Brussels is probably OK (Urbis DB was imported), for Flanders and Wallonia, it depends on the mappers. In Flanders, an import/merge operation is planned based on GRB. At this moment some mappers are still adding addresses based on

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM.be versus OpenStreetMap.be

2018-11-11 Thread Marc Gemis
.nl .ie .de. fr .be .jp .us --> no map, or map as background. .ch .org --> map .it -> just some text + link to wiki On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 8:21 AM OSMDoudou <19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote: > > It’s fine as long as it’s consistent and predictable for the user. > > If a

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Note tells OSM fails

2018-09-04 Thread Marc Gemis
Here is the answer I gave on the note: As you can see on the map, the boundary between Woluwe-Saint-Pierre and Crainhem runs slighty left of the Rue Longue. Since the current implementation of Nominatim (the software that looks up the addresses), always looks at the street and never at the POIs,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] identifier in ref:xOperatorx=y0yyyy to url=http://mijnlijn.be/y0yyyy

2018-11-18 Thread Marc Gemis
I would not drop the ref. The ref is visible on the signs, so it is a "real thing". I have no problem that people add the URL as well. The same is done for heritage sites. There is both a ref (refLOnroerendErfgoed and a heritage:website.) m. On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 10:52 AM Jo wrote: > > Our bus

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Lijst van dorpen/gemeenten/steden naargelang grootte/belang

2018-12-24 Thread Marc Gemis
Hallo Karel, inderdaad, OSM heeft niet echt tags om de grootte te bepalen. Zoals je reeds aangaf is er de population tag, Er is ook de place-tag. Ik dacht dat deze 2 tags in combinatie met capital, gebruikt worden door bv. de standard kaartstijl op openstreetmap.org om te bepalen op welk zoom

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Update Slow Roads conventions Belgium

2018-12-15 Thread Marc Gemis
p from 1800 says. m. On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 3:17 PM Ben Laenen wrote: > > > > On Sat, 15 Dec 2018, 14:59 Marc Gemis > >> I suggested that, as I think it is an part of the ref. We do map "E19" >> as well, not just 19. >> I want to be able te reconstruct the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Update Slow Roads conventions Belgium

2018-12-15 Thread Marc Gemis
I suggested that, as I think it is an part of the ref. We do map "E19" as well, not just 19. I want to be able te reconstruct the sign as I see it during a survey. On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 2:47 PM Ben Laenen wrote: > > One question I have: why are the words "chemin", "sentier", "voetweg" etc. >

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.17.0

2018-11-25 Thread Marc Gemis
> BTW: what do you consider to be a progress here? What do you like the > most in recent changes and maybe what problems are the most visible? The sing ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.17.0

2018-11-26 Thread Marc Gemis
> My intention was rather to hear about some general trends, As far as I understand, One general trend is to be "cleaner, have less information". (e.g. the building removal) Another one is paler colours (e.g. parking from yellow to grey) other landuse colour changes towards paler colours I

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early Bird Tickets!

2019-01-08 Thread Marc Gemis
I cannot make it to Open Belgium, but I have been thinking about a "walking meetup" for some time now. So instead of sitting in a pub, doing a walk and talk about OSM and survey techniques and apply them. Taking that idea, on a community day, it could be a workshop about surveying techniques,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early Bird Tickets!

2019-01-10 Thread Marc Gemis
-- > > Coordinator > Open Knowledge Belgium <http://www.openknowledge.be/> > @OpenKnowledgeBE <https://twitter.com/OpenKnowledgeBE> - @DVRansbeeck > <https://twitter.com/DVRansbeeck> > m: +32 474 26 56 18 > > > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 21:04, Marc Gemis wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing road geometry Australia

2019-01-11 Thread Marc Gemis
If you miss the on-ramp and are waiting for the traffic signals, a router can recalculate the route in the meantime and still try to let you turn left at the traffic signals. m. On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM Maarten Deen wrote: > > I agree that Markus' solution is more elegant (and I was more

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Lijst van dorpen/gemeenten/steden naargelang grootte/belang

2018-12-30 Thread Marc Gemis
Voor mij lijkt Joost's vraag relevant aangezien Brussel misschien wel een grote stad is naar Belgische normen, maar klein is in vergelijking met Londen, Parijs of Madrid. Verder is een plaats met 5000 inwoners misschien niet relevant in Vlaanderen, maar in een gebied met lage bevolkingsdichtheid

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early Bird Tickets!

2019-01-09 Thread Marc Gemis
> Jonathan Beliën > SPRL GEO-6 <https://geo6.be/> > > > > *De :* Santens Seppe > *Envoyé :* mercredi 9 janvier 2019 09:27 > *À :* OpenStreetMap Belgium > *Objet :* Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + > Early Bird Tickets! > &

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Status GRB-import tool ?

2019-01-24 Thread Marc Gemis
gen > aanpassen en dan worden ze vanzelf weggegooid voordat er data naar de server > gaat. > > mvg, > > Jo > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 8:13 PM Marc Gemis wrote: >> >> Hallo Denis, >> >> Ik had gehoopt dat iemand die dichter betrokken is

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Status GRB-import tool ?

2019-01-24 Thread Marc Gemis
Hallo Denis, Ik had gehoopt dat iemand die dichter betrokken is bij de ontwikkeling tijd zou hebben om je te beantwoorden, maar ze hebben het misschien te druk momenteel. Ik zal dan maar proberen te de situatie te schetsen: - de import mailing list had niet echt bezwaren, dus die hindernis is

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Looking how tagging "ijskelder"

2019-03-21 Thread Marc Gemis
There is a proposal for cellar entries that mentions icehouse: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:man_made%3Dcellar_entrance Just as with caves, it's easy to map the entrance, but harder to map the inside. m On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 1:05 PM Jakka wrote: > >

Re: [OSM-talk-be] save-the-internet - manifestaties nu zaterdag 23 maart

2019-03-23 Thread Marc Gemis
rouble... > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/567560764 > > StijnRR > > Op vrijdag 22 maart 2019 15:12:07 CET schreef Marc Gemis > : > > > Mogelijks zou ook OpenStreetMap een filter moeten installeren om te > kijken dat de data die we uploaden niet onder een of andere copy

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-01 Thread Marc Gemis
> > I am the copyright owner of my edits. You are the owner of yours. > > I don't recall ever giving the OSMF authority to act as my agent. Did you? You probably agreed to https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Contributor_Terms, not ? m. ___

Re: [OSM-talk-be] JOSM shared boundary of area

2019-03-06 Thread Marc Gemis
I think I have only seen a warning with landcover areas, as JOSM does not really know that type of objects. What are the tags you place on the "boundary"? You will never see this warning on 2 connected buildings. If you are mapping admin boundaries, you should use relations and have the common

Re: [OSM-talk-be] how to create a 'ready-to-print' city map from OSM

2019-03-06 Thread Marc Gemis
As Jo wrote labelling will be difficult. Did you consider to create 2 maps, one in French and one in Dutch? (and perhaps one in German). Is there a particular reason to create a bi-lingual map? m. On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 9:53 AM PONCELET Nadia (Firebru) wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > I would

Re: [OSM-talk-be] save-the-internet - manifestaties nu zaterdag 23 maart

2019-03-22 Thread Marc Gemis
In Duitsland zijn er al verschillende manifestaties tegen article 13 geweest. Mocht je Duits verstaan, deze dame [1] voert al enkele maanden opositie tegen het wetsvoorstel dat alle websites zal verplichten een filter te installeren om te kijken of er geen inhoud met licentie wordt geupload.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] save-the-internet - manifestaties nu zaterdag 23 maart

2019-03-22 Thread Marc Gemis
pport de ces propos de loi avec > OSM - quel contenu "copyrighted" pourrions-nous publier, sauf quelques > photographies? > > = > > > On 22/03/2019 13:14, Marc Gemis wrote: > > In Duitsland zijn er al verschillende manifestaties tegen article 13 > >

[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Vraag workshop OSM voor Pasar GPS-trefdag van 19 oktober 2019

2019-02-01 Thread Marc Gemis
Hallo, is er iemand geïnteresseerd om hier een voordacht te gaan geven ? mvg m -- Forwarded message - From: Alain Segers Date: Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 5:23 PM Subject: Vraag workshop OSM voor Pasar GPS-trefdag van 19 oktober 2019 To: commun...@osm.be Beste, Met

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Marc Gemis
bridge or tunnel without having to know in which > order roads, railways, etc. were constructed. > > So can someone can come up with a useful definition? > > Can I come up with a definition? I like the length/width ratio, the open > bridge(like) structure against a confin

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Marc Gemis
is in a tunnel Again: exceptions will exist and they have to be seen as a rule of thumb, not a hard definition. On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:46 AM Marc Gemis wrote: > > AFAIK the tunnel=building_passage, this is not a tunnel, but using the > tunnel tag anyway. I guess the same is true for culvert

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-29 Thread Marc Gemis
I assume that that way (powerline) was downloaded because it also has nodes in the area you downloaded. JOSM will never complain about objects that are not downloaded. Powerline ways tend to be long, so the warning can easily be in another state, that is true. Furthermore, I thought that it is not

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Marc Gemis
I doubt one had to dig something for the road to pass under the railway. There is no "earth" between the road and the sky, only stuff that humans created, like concrete, stones and asphalt. So a bridge for me. I apply the rule: stand on the road, look up, which layers of material do you "see"

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Marc Gemis
at 6:36 PM Marc Gemis wrote: > > I think there is a tunnel under the e34 between Antwerpen en Zelzate. There > used to be a level crossing which was removed and instead they created an > underground passage for it. > > M > > Op di 28 mei 2019 14:46 schreef Lionel Giard

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Marc Gemis
I think there is a tunnel under the e34 between Antwerpen en Zelzate. There used to be a level crossing which was removed and instead they created an underground passage for it. M Op di 28 mei 2019 14:46 schreef Lionel Giard : > @joost schouppe To me that's indeed a bridge, > as you see the

Re: [Talk-at] Leider im Talk Forum

2019-06-27 Thread Marc Gemis
Is https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AgN1X6I9nA64syiHi6MKPdl5R-KXaRbO/view a violation of GDPR ? You publish names, email addresses and a website of people who probably did not give you the permission to do that. regards m ___ Talk-at mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk-be] hidden official path vs. unofficial by-pass : consensus?

2019-08-21 Thread Marc Gemis
Seems my opinion is different from the other Marc. AFAIK, the OSM consensus is to map what is on the ground, in this case only the by-pass. You could keep the "official" path, with some tag disused:highway or so, but IMHO, that is just clutter that makes it harder for others to edit. When your

Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it nice to share?  | Re: Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-08-02 Thread Marc Gemis
This "self appointed police of OSM" will probably question - how did those companies receive the data, under which copyright? - how did they geocode the POIs, using Google's geocoder ? (a big no-no) - how up-to-date is this data ? Will you reimport POIs that have been rightfully removed in OSM ?

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Ways with identical coordinates on top of each other

2019-08-08 Thread Marc Gemis
I assume OSM always has been a 2.5D map. I'm thinking about tunnels and bridges. To properly map them, we always needed the level tag. So any data consumer that creates a road network from OSM will need to have knowledge about the level tag. Of course, the example that you mention, of indoor

Re: [OSM-talk] lines, drawing.

2019-09-19 Thread Marc Gemis
Maybe a stupid question, but what has to be fixed on that page? Can you provide a bit more detail? On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 3:47 PM 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: > > can someone fix this page ? > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/LinesTab > ___ >

Re: [OSM-talk] lines, drawing.

2019-09-20 Thread Marc Gemis
rawing on the web edit map. > > the colors on the edit map do not match the info page. > > the rail platform on the web edit page is gone. > > the rail platform on the page is gone. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Rendering-highway_railway_platform_area.png >

Re: [OSM-talk-be] tags for prohibitory road signs in Belgium

2019-09-27 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 9:27 PM Stijn Rombauts via Talk-be wrote: > - A general remark that could be added: never follow the traffic signs > blindly when adding (access) tags: in some local authorities the one who has > to decide about traffic signs doesn't seem to know which sign to use where.

Re: [OSM-talk] mapbox, (Changeset Analyzer), whodidit

2019-09-24 Thread Marc Gemis
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:47 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: > > What are these for anyway, other than stalking ?, Quality assurance (QA). It helps more experienced mappers to see where new people add things. If they spot mistakes, they should engage in a friendly conversation via private

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways divided by paint?

2019-07-03 Thread Marc Gemis
I agree that in this case I would tolerate it, but is it still allowed to turn from East Mineral avenue to the North-South, unclassified highway? If not, one should add turn restrictions. regards m On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:11 PM Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > On 03.07.2019 22:03, Jack Armstrong

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Overdreven gedetailleerde mapping ?

2019-11-02 Thread Marc Gemis
Ik sluit me volledig aan bij Jakka. Ieder mapt wat hij/zij wil. Het aantal parkeerplaatsen kan interessante info zijn, net zoals de exacte ligging (misschien voor slechtzienden die over het terrein moeten navigeren). Kleine bloemperken e.d. geven aan hoe groen een stad is. Zo zijn er misschien

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Overdreven gedetailleerde mapping ? Exaggerated detailed mapping?

2019-11-09 Thread Marc Gemis
> And to be honest: I don't think OSM will really surpass commercial maps for > car navigation, because up to date traffic information is part of that. > I don't see how volunteers can arrange that quickly. In some countries (including Belgium) traffic information from the government is open

[OSM-talk-be] Road side parking ( Was Re: Overdreven gedetailleerde mapping ?)

2019-11-05 Thread Marc Gemis
hat it is > roadside parking. But it is undocumented to use it that way. ^^ > > Le mar. 5 nov. 2019 à 08:42, Marc Gemis a écrit : >> >> Ik map soms ook parkeerplaatsen in een straat met enkel >> amenity=parking_space, omdat er geen parking (in de betekenis van >>

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Road side parking ( Was Re: Overdreven gedetailleerde mapping ?)

2019-11-05 Thread Marc Gemis
:condtion=* to show > the roadside parking and condition of parking. :-) > > Kind Regards, > > Le mar. 5 nov. 2019 à 10:06, Marc Gemis a écrit : >> >> So for those 4 roadside parking spaces: https://osm.org/go/0EpBwBaxP?m= >> I have to split the road a couple of times,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapillary tip bij regen

2019-11-06 Thread Marc Gemis
Ik vrees een beetje voor mijn gimbal als ik dat doe. Voorlopig zie ik het maar als een test voor de object herkenning van Mapillary :-) Iemand ervaring met gimbals als je telkens weer opnieuw tegen de camera duwt ? (Anyone experience with gimbals when you keep pressing against the camera over and

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Overdreven gedetailleerde mapping ?

2019-11-04 Thread Marc Gemis
n wordt de databank er ook echt niet > bruikbaarder op. Soit, 't is ook mijn eigen schuld omdat ik er anderen zelden > op aanspreek. En Jakka, jij bent zeker de ergste nog niet, verre van. > > StijnRR > > > Op maandag 4 november 2019 13:08:24 CET schreef Marc Gemis > : >

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapillary tip bij regen

2019-11-08 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:58 AM Jo wrote: > > Why would you press against the camera? To clean the lens. Even gently wiping over it would work against the motors of the gimbal I think. It seems that the one I have can cope with the duration of my walks. To be honest, I think that the pictures I

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tagging proposal for cycling highways (Fietssnelwegen)

2019-12-11 Thread Marc Gemis
> Tagging scheme > > I'd actually go for `cycle_network=BE:cycle_highway`, as cycle_network > normally has a country prefix. Because most (all?) of them are already > tagged, we could simply update the tagging all at once. I'll do that next > week, unless a better proposal or good reason not

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