[Talk-in] Introduction

2014-11-07 Thread Warin
error. But mostly connectinmg roads and adding brigdges. Oh .. and a few railway crossings. Thanks for you work to the OSM map Warin ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in

Re: [Talk-in] Introduction

2014-11-09 Thread Warin
for offset correction. Btw, I hope you meant Bing imagery, not their mapping service. Thanks for your work! Have a good trip here! Regards, Ishan Sent from my Windows Phone From: Warin mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com Sent: ‎08

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-15 Thread Warin
On 15/03/2015 11:21 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 14.03.2015 um 23:49 schrieb mick bare...@tpg.com.au: One issue I hope those people expending mental energy on improving the tagging scheme will keep in mind are the limitations existing in GIS packages in respect of the number of fields

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting on voting system for proposals

2015-03-18 Thread Warin
On 19/03/2015 2:44 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl mailto:i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: As far as I know, we don't have a policy on which tags to include in the rendering, and there is currently no consensus

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping dangerous bicycle locations?

2015-03-09 Thread Warin
On 9/03/2015 9:08 PM, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: On 09/03/2015, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: There are in places bicycle specific warning signs (e.g. sharp curve bicylists beware) and THOSE can definitely be mapped. Agreed, we can probably draw the line on wether the hazard is

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-11 Thread Warin
On 11/03/2015 9:53 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: 4. Redesigning some key tagging schemes I think that will be one of the hardest think to change, but while tag crafting is mostly a grassroot process, we need to rethink some of them in a more systematic way. For example amenity=school should be

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping dangerous bicycle locations?

2015-03-07 Thread Warin
The suggests values of weather related - rain/snow will change with the weather .. naturally. slippery = surface related ... could be tagged with surface=? glass-shard .. can be cleaned up, thus temporary like the weather ... I have stopped and swept things off the path .. used some cardboard

Re: [OSM-talk] Taginfo challenge

2015-03-14 Thread Warin
On 14/03/2015 5:49 PM, Jochen Topf wrote: On Sa, Mär 14, 2015 at 09:24:20 +1100, Warin wrote: Are not 'keys' always lower case? Thus any upper case there can be changed into lower case without loss of data? Tags are much more varied than you might think. And then some. See here for some stats

Re: [OSM-talk] Taginfo challenge

2015-03-13 Thread Warin
On 14/03/2015 2:57 AM, Jochen Topf wrote: On Fr, Mär 13, 2015 at 07:17:01 +, Malcolm Herring wrote: I found several cases of a key being duplicated with various capitalisations: instead of this they are mostly like This or THIS. Could somebody make a bot to clean these? Please don't. Read

[OSM-talk] Season=autumn not fall

2015-03-11 Thread Warin
I came across the use of season=fall .. that is American English .. I've added to the wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:seasonal to reflect correct British English usage. The use of 'etc' should be avoided in giving examples .. especially where the examples are not numerous? I've

[OSM-talk] Finding a user from a tag/value?

2015-02-28 Thread Warin
Hi, I'd like to find out which user has contributed a key to the map ... the key has no wiki page and I'd like to know what was meant by the key and its' value. The key has low numbers .. so while there may be more than one user .. I think I only need to contact one of them. I've used

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding a user from a tag/value?

2015-03-01 Thread Warin
PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to find out which user has contributed a key to the map ... the key has no wiki page and I'd like to know what was meant by the key and its' value. Use taginfo. Navigate to the key/value

Re: [Talk-in] Confusion over tagging POIs as using nodes or areas

2015-04-29 Thread Warin
Some things are better as points. man_made=water_tap would be such a small area that it would not be worth while mapping as an area. Most initial mapping occurs as points - quicker and easier for the mapper. And it does get the information across to the end user, the added information of an

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-10 Thread Warin
Congratulations, Andy. On 11/05/2015 1:11 AM, Grant Slater wrote: Hi Andy, I no longer have sufficient time to administer the wiki and to review cases thoroughly. User:Lyx has done a great job in my absence, but he could use additional help. I am going to focus my available time on OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Junction assessment help

2015-05-10 Thread Warin
Needs someone on the ground to determine it. Suggest a more local group rather then a world wide group? On 11/05/2015 10:07 AM, Ed Loach wrote: Looks correct to me, based on your description. Do you have photos to make things perhaps clearer? Ed (EdLoach)

Re: [OSM-talk] Problems with the wiki (was Why OSM and not another collaborative mapping service?)

2015-05-08 Thread Warin
On 9/05/2015 7:57 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 05/08/2015 08:00 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: There's another problem page at OpenStreetMap is a social activity. Sigh. Lots of good cleanup edits. Lots of blundering elephant edits. Yes, it doesn't feel good to point fingers at individuals but

Re: [OSM-talk] iD name suggestion index - asking non-English-speaking mappers to review

2015-05-17 Thread Warin
On 17/05/2015 3:57 PM, Stefan Baebler wrote: I see Petrol is categorized under discardedNames, but is is in fact a valid full name of company with chain of gas pumps in Slovenia (www.petrol.si http://www.petrol.si). Are there many other similar cases that would make it worthwhile to make

Re: [OSM-talk] iD name suggestion index - asking non-English-speaking mappers to review

2015-05-19 Thread Warin
is valid as a company name (apparently On May 17, 2015 10:53:07 PM CDT, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: On 17/05/2015 3:57 PM, Stefan Baebler wrote: I see Petrol is categorized under discardedNames, but is is in fact a valid full name of company with chain of gas pumps in Slovenia

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is a right mess

2015-06-03 Thread Warin
On 4/06/2015 9:48 AM, pmailkeey . wrote: A value of residential here seems to need a key to identify whether it relates to a building or landuse. However, you suggest building=residential as possibly being redundant. In fact, I'd turn this on its head and make landuse=residential (with

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is a right mess

2015-06-03 Thread Warin
On 3/06/2015 6:45 PM, Lester Caine wrote: The discussion recently on how a 'university' should be tagged probably encompasses all of the circularity with the current tagging practice, and where the hierarchy of tagging could best be agreed. Campus area === landuse=university Some universities

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is a right mess (was: Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue)

2015-06-02 Thread Warin
On 3/06/2015 10:37 AM, Tom MacWright wrote: Hi Mike, Please propose an alternative. He has been .. on other threads.. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com mailto:sea...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 3, 2015 8:06 AM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-14 Thread Warin
On 14/06/2015 6:31 PM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: The One Map we currently show caters mainly to the overrepresented tech population (or, in the case of the HOT map, to NGOs) and that gives the impression that the same is true for our data (which isn't). So maybe both, the diversity movement and

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-14 Thread Warin
On 15/06/2015 2:29 AM, John Eldredge wrote: The claim that the maps are only for the benefit of Westerners implies that non-Western people never travel to or trade with areas beyond their immediate neighborhoods. There was a humours suggestion to map animal paths, rejected as not something

Re: [OSM-talk] Road Surface Type Map

2015-06-17 Thread Warin
On 18/06/2015 12:23 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote: Does anyone know of a map that displays road surface type? If not maybe it been a good idea to request one from itomap. It would be a lot of help to mappers who map those tags. OSMAnd has a function to display road surface... it does display

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in India

2015-06-16 Thread Warin
On 16/06/2015 8:41 PM, john whelan wrote: Could we make an effort to map one bit of India remotely ideally one that has a few mappers in it or users and see if it can grow from there? Any NGOs operating in India? If possible it should be a place where tourist go. I'd think tourist would be

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-31 Thread Warin
On 1/06/2015 6:42 AM, John Eldredge wrote: Yes, I would class this as a rendering error on Craigslist's part, not a data error on OSM's part. It sounds like the code is checking for the presence of the oneway tag, where it should be checking for the presence of oneway=yes. Or oneway=1,

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-30 Thread Warin
On 31/05/2015 10:51 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: I have posted this issue to the Craigslist feedback forum, but I also thought I would post it here to see if anyone has a specific contact at Cragislist that handles their map rendering. They use - and credit - OpenStreetMap (which is wonderful),

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Warin
On 30/05/2015 6:00 PM, Johan C wrote: The values used in the destination tag (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination) should always display the exact name as it is shown on the signpost When the 'name on the signpost' changes along the way, or by the direction of travel

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanical name edit? (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Warin
On 30/05/2015 8:41 PM, Roland Olbricht wrote: Hi, On 05/30/2015 09:48 AM, Roland Olbricht wrote: Thank you for informing the community. Do you actually have substantial evidence of a mechanical edit or something similar? There are a couple individual complaints and license issues (people

Re: [OSM-talk] Micromapping and other subforums

2015-07-04 Thread Warin
On 5/07/2015 11:21 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: I'm interested in some special mapping areas, like small scale/micro- mapping problems. While I see 3D and indoor mapping subforum in OSM Specials section on OSM Forum, I don't see micromapping subforum there. Are there any other mappers interested in

Re: [OSM-talk] Micromapping and other subforums

2015-07-05 Thread Warin
On 5/07/2015 12:08 PM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 3:37 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Definition of mirco mapping would be usefull if this starts up? Mapping areas of, say, less than 5? square metres? Mapping nodes where the separation to other features is less

Re: [OSM-talk] Layers and landuse

2015-06-28 Thread Warin
On 29/06/2015 1:14 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-06-28 14:39 GMT+02:00 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de mailto:o...@tobias-knerr.de: On 27.06.2015 11 tel:27.06.2015%2011:19, michael spreng wrote: This is not a tagging error. It is an error. Only the underground part of

Re: [OSM-talk] Layers and landuse

2015-06-28 Thread Warin
On 29/06/2015 9:34 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 29.06.2015 um 00:42 schrieb Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: If lower than the 'original ground level' then layer=-1 (or more) layer are tags to map relative local stacking (which object is above which other object where

Re: [Talk-in] Tagging abandoned airstrips

2015-05-22 Thread Warin
On 22/05/2015 3:05 PM, Sutripta wrote: Hi, Are there any norms for tagging abandoned airstrips? Regards Sutripta disused:aeroway=runway see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Aeroways for more on aerodromes... ___ Talk-in mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-13 Thread Warin
Snipped for PC below, meanings remain. On 13/08/2015 9:30 PM, Ian Dees wrote: I appreciate that there are strong feelings about this topic, but we could certainly use more constructive language and have a civilized conversation. Passion is what can make a good mapper. But keep it in

Re: [OSM-talk] landcover=trees [was Re: OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release]

2015-08-17 Thread Warin
On 17/08/2015 7:20 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: In that case it is perfectly OK to do not edit map and keep it as it was (yes, as I understand it and it seems to be a widely used in this way - landuse=wood, natural=wood, landcover=trees are used currently for the same objects). Err disagree,

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-17 Thread Warin
On 17/08/2015 4:28 PM, Colin Smale wrote: If only all this energy were directed at helping OSM forwards. We haven't had a lot of progress in the last few years (I am not talking about mapping as such, but about the OSM framework itself). There are still periodical discussions about how to

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-17 Thread Warin
On 17/08/2015 10:48 PM, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: On 17/08/2015, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Am 17.08.2015 um 02:39 schrieb moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com: * A broken bridge with just a few meters left on both riverbanks I surely wouldn't have removed this one.

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-17 Thread Warin
On 17/08/2015 11:13 PM, Colin Smale wrote: On 2015-08-17 13:37, Warin wrote: On 17/08/2015 4:28 PM, Colin Smale wrote: Will the free-tagging laissez-faire camp win, or will the curated/managed tagging camp win? I'm in the 'systematised free tagging' camp .. I want a structure that has

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-17 Thread Warin
On 17/08/2015 11:54 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 08/17/2015 03:13 PM, Colin Smale wrote: So if I think something is useful to me, and I am prepared to maintain it to my own satisfaction, I can feel free add it I'd think it should be documented in the wiki .. so others can 'see' what it is

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-15 Thread Warin
On 15/08/2015 10:08 PM, Lester Caine wrote: On 15/08/15 12:55, Colin Smale wrote: Good question. We assume they were not entered from sources without a suitable licence. Should we delete them? I certainly don't need to know where the gas pipelines are. But someone buying a house close by may

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-15 Thread Warin
On 16/08/2015 1:29 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: Warin writes: On 15/08/2015 3:46 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: Railway=dismantled. Doesn't get rendered except where it should be, do you still want railway=disused to remain? Are we even talking about the same thing? Let's assume that you made

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-15 Thread Warin
On 16/08/2015 1:35 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: Serge Wroclawski writes: Our project's policy thusfar has been in contrast to other projects in that each and every one of us is empowered to make changes to anything we see. You're starting to understand! You should make changes to things you

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-23 Thread Warin
On 24/08/2015 4:24 AM, Dave F. wrote: On 23/08/2015 19:11, Mike N wrote: On 8/23/2015 2:03 PM, Dave F. wrote: Are you saying if a building gets demolished replaced with a new one, you wouldn't remove the original outline from OSM? In my case, I've begun to do just that, adding a note to

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-24 Thread Warin
On 24/08/2015 7:25 PM, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: On 24/08/2015, Balaco Baco balacob...@imap.cc wrote: buildings are usually replaced much faster than maps are expected to last, and the work of updating it twice, once for the empty space, dem. building and the future new building outline is

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway - routable network and reservoirs/lakes

2015-07-28 Thread Warin
On 28/07/2015 10:24 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Tuesday 28 July 2015, Maarten Deen wrote: Do you think that hydrological analysis is a wider field of application than water navigation? I was of the opinion that the connection of waterways within OSM was primarily for navigation. That

Re: [OSM-talk] Marking tight corners

2015-07-29 Thread Warin
On 30/07/2015 5:45 AM, Subhodip Biswas wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com mailto:matkoni...@gmail.com wrote: Geometry of road is already providing this information, there is probably no need to duplicate this in tags. Thanks, will it

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-11 Thread Warin
On 11/08/2015 4:37 PM, Andrew Wiseman wrote: Hi Russ, I would suggest you contact who is saying that or deleting it (if you can see who that is,) and talk to them, nicely, about your concerns. I bet it's just that people probably aren't familiar with the concept of abandoned railroads as a

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-11 Thread Warin
On 11/08/2015 8:07 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 08/11/2015 07:09 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: Now, you might think Goddamnit, does Russell have to start again? Yes, I have to start again. I was in north-western Pennsylvania last weekend looking for the Corry Junction Rail Trail. Problem: it

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-13 Thread Warin
On 13/08/2015 11:24 PM, Ruben Maes wrote: On Thursday 13 August 2015 15:10:14 Mateusz Konieczny wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 21:54:39 +1000 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: For example a demolished building .. may have a new building built on the same spot .. with the same outline. Leave

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-15 Thread Warin
On 15/08/2015 7:19 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: I would like to argue for a general do-not-remove-if-you-do-not-have-the-original-mapper's-ok-beforehand policy for these and similar cases. I have myself mapped a couple of abandoned railways where the remains were often no longer recognizable

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-14 Thread Warin
On 14/08/2015 10:10 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 14.08.2015 um 05:09 schrieb Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com: We allow original research and expert testimony. So, is OSM to contain only the obvious that everyone can see? Or should it contain everything that can be seen?

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-15 Thread Warin
On 15/08/2015 3:46 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: Mateusz Konieczny writes: In another case where railway tracks that were removed, embankment demolished and somebody build there houses. In that case railway track should not be mapped in OSM because this feature is gone. Railway=dismantled.

Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!

2015-07-24 Thread Warin
On 24/07/2015 7:49 PM, p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: On Fri Jul 24 09:45:06 2015 GMT+0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 23.07.2015 um 20:49 schrieb Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: What is needed is proper tagging of fields rather than adding random areas of 'farmland'

[OSM-talk] Emergency button on phone OSM apps?

2015-10-25 Thread Warin
Hi, On the cell phone apps that use OSM I would like to seen an "Emergency" button ... for use in an emergency. It would bring up on the map the local emergency items; emergency phones, AEDs (Automatic Emergency Defibrillators - used for heart attack victims) Life belts/rings Hospitals with

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

2015-10-30 Thread Warin
On 31/10/2015 8:10 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 30 October 2015 at 22:01, Matthijs Melissen wrote: - shop=pharmacy (use office=pharmacy) This should be amenity=pharmacy instead of office=pharmacy, of course. No. In a perfect world it should be

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

2015-11-02 Thread Warin
On 2/11/2015 10:35 PM, Colin Smale wrote: I see your point Martin. So all we need now (for your example) is a documented map from shop=tobacco to a list of sells:*=* tags which are default for shop=tobacco. One would reasonably expect sells:cigarettes=yes, sells:pipe_tobacco=yes and

Re: [OSM-talk] User WJtW - railway track counts

2015-10-16 Thread Warin
A local railway corridor is having a third track added specifically to carry freight. It can also carry passengers but that would be an exception. It may have a 'lower-spec' for smoothness .. but in all other regards it has at least the same speck. There is some political pressure to encourage

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

2015-09-08 Thread Warin
On 8/09/2015 7:00 PM, Fabian Schmidt wrote: On 09/08/2015 12:16 AM, Dave F. wrote: I fail to understand why railways are singled out as a special case. If roads, buildings or woods get demolished, they get deleted. please have a look at the tag definition in the wiki: "where the rails have

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

2015-09-08 Thread Warin
On 8/09/2015 6:07 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 08.09.2015 um 01:49 schrieb Dave F. : I don't believe anyone's advocating the removal of existing entities. In your viaduct case above, keep the viaduct entity, remove the railway=abandoned tag,

[OSM-talk] The wki pages ... for the mapper? or the render? or both?

2015-09-08 Thread Warin
The some of the wiki pages appear to be written for the renders, while others look to be written for the mappers. This is confusing! I believe there should be two versions of the wiki pages - one for mappers who need simple descriptions of the tag/s and another for renders that give

Re: [OSM-talk] The wki pages ... for the mapper? or the render? or both?

2015-09-09 Thread Warin
On 9/09/2015 3:36 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2015-09-09 05:18, Warin wrote: The some of the wiki pages appear to be written for the renders, while others look to be written for the mappers. This is confusing! I believe there should be two versions of the wiki pages - one for mappers who need

Re: [OSM-talk] The wki pages ... for the mapper? or the render? or both?

2015-09-09 Thread Warin
On 9/09/2015 3:40 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 09.09.2015 um 05:18 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: this list a number of what a mapper would call an object (bridge, tunnel, cutting) but a render associates with another object to render it correctly an

Re: [OSM-talk] The wiki pages ... for the mapper? or the render? or both?

2015-09-10 Thread Warin
On 10/09/2015 12:20 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 10:06:17 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 9/09/2015 3:36 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2015-09-09 05:18, Warin wrote: The some of the wiki pages appear to be written for the renders, while other

Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: important =spam

2015-09-10 Thread Warin
On 11/09/2015 7:11 AM, Natasa Lukic wrote: Hello! // *Important message, visit* http://fjweb01.net2u.com.au/it.php?ghsyj ** Natasa Lukic More SPAM. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: important

2015-09-10 Thread Warin
On 11/09/2015 7:13 AM, Michele Rouse wrote: Hello! // *Important message, visit* ** Michele Rouse SPAM. Do not bother. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping what is on the ground ...

2015-09-12 Thread Warin
On 13/09/2015 4:18 AM, Lester Caine wrote: This is one for the GB list really, but given the debate here and it's relevance to the discussion I thought it appropriate to widen the exposure. I'm battling Facebook and it's crap set of official 'cites' which one is allowed to select as home

Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: important... recomend auto deletion of any Fw:important

2015-09-10 Thread Warin
I'll be putting a block on any more messages with the subject containing Fw:important On 11/09/2015 7:19 AM, Reiser John J. wrote rubbish: ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

2015-09-11 Thread Warin
On 12/09/2015 8:36 AM, Colin Smale wrote: Why shouldn't it work? It is perfectly easy to understand what is intended. Anyway where is the list or definition of what constitutes a *primary* tag? On 2015-09-12 00:11, Dave F. wrote: On 11/09/2015 03:07, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: But the

Re: [OSM-talk] Involving Cyclists in OSM

2015-12-08 Thread Warin
On 9/12/2015 11:40 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: I am meeting with one of the key players in Seattle's cycling clubs to pitch doing a presentation to their membership. I'm interested in hearing from cyclists on why and how OSM is useful to them. I have no problem talking about the open data concept

Re: [OSM-talk] south Portugal and South Spain GPS

2016-01-01 Thread Warin
On 2/01/2016 7:06 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: Sounds like a fun trip. On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 9:59 AM, birdlady108 > wrote: My husband and I (Both older) want to buy a GPS so we don't get too lost when walking and driving on our trip

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to amalgamate two relations?

2016-01-01 Thread Warin
On 2/01/2016 5:56 AM, Dave F. wrote: Thanks to all who commented. In hindsight I probably wasn't worth doing, but I've learnt something new for the future (especially that it can be done in P2) Jo, I haven't tested it but does JOSM know it's meant to delete the latter relation? Does the

Re: [OSM-talk] Not sure what to think

2016-01-07 Thread Warin
On 8/01/2016 6:15 AM, Dave F. wrote: On 07/01/2016 14:51, Simon Poole wrote: In any case enough question marks to make a blanket "perfectly legitimately" a bit iffy. Interesting. So it's question marks & not Chinese whispers & scaremongering? I'd genuinely like to see where either Google or

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

2015-11-18 Thread Warin
On 19/11/2015 11:11 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, I would like to draw everyone's attention to a long-standing community recommendation: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments It explains why you should use sensible changeset comments that describe what you (think you)

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

2015-11-18 Thread Warin
On 19/11/2015 11:52 AM, john whelan wrote: HOT and OSM are slightly different, HOT maps on OSM but uses a simpler more standardized approach. Many of their volunteers often do not know enough English to write a meaningful change set comment. HOT tends to map in areas that do not have a great

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Parking Lots

2016-01-11 Thread Warin
On 12/01/2016 11:22 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: I notice that some times just the part of a parking lot where cars may park is mapped [1]. In other cases the entire lot, including the lanes between rows of cars, has been mapped [2]. The wiki [3] doesn't specify which is preferred, but seems to

Re: [OSM-talk] ford=no for highways which are known to have no fords?

2016-05-31 Thread Warin
On 6/1/2016 7:18 AM, Richard wrote: On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 07:01:07PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2016-05-31 15:03 GMT+02:00 Richard : often enough I get messages from people saying that drawing a bridge or culvert for every minor highway/waterway crossing causes

Re: [OSM-talk] Failed water proposal reversal

2016-06-22 Thread Warin
On 6/22/2016 4:17 PM, Tomas Straupis wrote: My question/proposal was about what to do with failed proposals in general. That is: 1. How to identify a "failed" proposal 2. What to do with it My proposal for point 1 is: If after say two years new schema does not get at least equal tagging count

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Background Layers

2016-01-16 Thread Warin
On 17/01/2016 3:41 AM, Steve Doerr wrote: On 08/01/2016 22:34, Simon Poole wrote: Am 08.01.2016 um 23:25 schrieb tony wroblewski: Silly question, why would you trace from Mapnik, since it's OSM anyway? I use it to check the OSM data relative to another image without down loading the data ...

Re: [OSM-talk] Need to revert a bunch of changesets

2016-06-26 Thread Warin
On 6/26/2016 5:06 PM, Michael Reichert wrote: Hi Robert, Am 26.06.2016 um 06:10 schrieb Robert Helvie: I don't know about any other edits the user has made, but the ones in the Sejong area really should be reverted. It is a shame, because the other data they add such as names and address info

Re: [OSM-talk] NASA sites

2016-06-27 Thread Warin
On 6/28/2016 1:52 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2016-06-27 17:32 GMT+02:00 Ethan Nelson >: I would agree with leaving NASA out of the name=* tag as we similarly don't name Fort Meade as ''United States Army Fort

Re: [OSM-talk] Winter Road Closures

2016-02-24 Thread Warin
On 25/02/2016 4:01 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:21 AM, > wrote: In order to help avoid this situation with OSM, I tagged highway 82 across Independence Pass with "seasonal=yes". If anyone knows more

Re: [OSM-talk] classification of airports/aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Warin
On 13/04/2016 5:47 AM, Michael Kugelmann wrote: Am 12.04.2016 um 11:40 schrieb Christoph Hormann: This is also a problem for map rendering - map styles use these features to place labels and icons but these features are generally too ill-defined and undifferentiated to do this properly. I agree

Re: [OSM-talk] classification of airports/aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Warin
surfaces on runways, one of which was grass and has changed to paved in my term of mapping history, the 'taxiways' remain grass .. and unmapped. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016, 23:25 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 13/04/2016 5:47 AM, Michael Kug

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

2016-03-22 Thread Warin
On 23/03/2016 2:47 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: On 2016-03-22 14:10, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: ># First goal: >First goal is quite simple. The idea is to work only on relations >which have a natural=water . Then, it will: >* Delete natural=water from all the ways if they are NOT closed or >

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction of some Afghanistan data

2016-03-31 Thread Warin
On 1/04/2016 9:42 AM, Paul Norman wrote: The Data Working Group recently had to perform a large redaction in Afghanistan of data from two mappers who had used Google. A redaction is where an object is removed from the current data and previous versions are hidden in the API. They are done to

Re: [Talk-in] Railway station GPS co-ordinates

2016-05-16 Thread Warin
Hi, a better way ? with this query, you immediately have a CSV file as output. Use thishttp://overpass-turbo.eu/s/gdp or copy the query below tohttp://overpass-turbo.eu/ [out:csv (railway,station)][timeout:25]; // gather results ( // query part for: “railway=station”

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-14 Thread Warin
On 7/14/2016 7:14 PM, Éric Gillet wrote: 2016-07-14 6:12 GMT+02:00 tuxayo >: On 13/07/2016 09:25, Éric Gillet wrote: > I will summarise what course of action I think would be appropriate to > follow : > > * It's not clear

Re: [OSM-talk] What pointing device you use for mapping?

2016-07-13 Thread Warin
I have not used a graphics tablet .. yet. They are popular with graphic artist I believe. However I have used a fair few track balls, mice and touch pads. Touch pads have gotten better over time, their buttons though do ware out rapidly! Mice .. very much second choice to a good track ball.

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-11 Thread Warin
On 7/11/2016 11:45 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Il giorno 11 lug 2016, alle ore 14:01, Éric Gillet ha scritto: I agree that survey are that on-premise survey is the best review method. But then you are adressing armchair mapping as a whole

[OSM-talk] OSM wiki page descriptions of sports tags

2016-07-02 Thread Warin
Hi In the OSM wiki pages of sports there are 2 main types of descriptions present; 1) sport=filed_hockey description: Field Hockey https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dfield_hockey The description is simply the name of the sport, with no additional information. 2)

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-28 Thread Warin
It is 'nice' to see the progress of OSM. Rather than a yearly thing .. every 7 years might be ok, there was a TV program on some children progressing into adulthood .. think that was done every 7 or so years too. On 29-Jan-17 05:12 AM, François Lacombe wrote: Hi Martin, Thank you, great

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate ways in multipolygon relations

2017-02-18 Thread Warin
More Problems 1) Source .. the source tags can be in the relation and not the way ... Change the way to the new source and yet the other relations all say it is some other source. My conclusion is that the source should be on the way. 2) Are the other relations, that refer to this way,

Re: [OSM-talk] Spam reporting

2017-02-22 Thread Warin
On 23-Feb-17 01:28 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 13.08.2016 16:10, Ruben Maes napisał(a): On vrijdag 12 augustus 2016 15:47 Daniel Koć wrote: What should I do with clear spam acconts/comments like this?: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/thepackersmoversdelhicom

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing broken multipolygons

2017-02-15 Thread Warin
On 16-Feb-17 10:52 AM, Paul Norman wrote: On 2/15/2017 2:51 PM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: There is a comparison map where you can see the changes: https://osmium.osm2pgsql.paulnorman.ca There are some notable holes, for example in the woods of Scandinavia. It would be great if they are gone by

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering hill figures

2017-02-27 Thread Warin
On 27-Feb-17 08:12 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2017-02-26 23:07 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett >: The Fovant badges http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/51.05348/-1.97971

Re: [Talk-in] Classification of Indian places

2016-08-26 Thread Warin
I too, have raised this same subject on the Australian list and I have seen it raised on the UK list with regards to Scotland. I think the population being used to determine the OSM place classification works well as a first iteration. What is being determined here is not the official, legal

Re: [OSM-talk] non-temporary usage of highway=road

2016-09-27 Thread Warin
On 27-Sep-16 05:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Il giorno 27 set 2016, alle ore 08:07, Simon Poole > ha scritto: Use of it, IMHO, doesn't really make sense at all any more, particularly if you have imagery available, a

Re: [OSM-talk] Strange location reading

2016-09-28 Thread Warin
On 28-Sep-16 04:44 PM, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: On 27.09.16 21:51, John Eldredge wrote: This past weekend, I made a long road trip. At one point, while in a highway rest stop, I checked Google Maps to see how far I had come. To my surprise, it showed me at a different rest stop, about 200

Re: [OSM-talk] Local guidance for finding places (Insarro, Ethiopia..)

2016-10-03 Thread Warin
On 04-Oct-16 10:23 AM, Ben Discoe wrote: There is a popular local restaurant which says on its website, "Many ingredients and spices are brought directly from the town of Enssaro in Ethiopia" Curious, I looked for this town in OpenStreetMap. Nothing exists with that spelling, Ask at the

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