Re: [MBZ] OT sign of the times - be careful out there!

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Scott wrote:

> Tower fly-by is a basic flight test technique to calibrate a new
> pitot-static system.

> My most memorable flyby was a 600 KIAS pass to a closed
> pattern.  The turn to downwind was wide, even at 7g, and we had
> to extend the downwind leg (a lot) to get slow enough to lower
> the gear.  The maintenance guys on the ramp thought it was very
> cool.  That memory is vivid, even after 40 years.

Wow!! At sea level, speed of sound is 660 knots, so 600 KIAS [knots
indicated air speed] is mighty close to mach 1!  That's gotta feel
_really_ fast that close to the ground.

I have nothing so exciting to tell.  But a couple A-10s flew over
last week...

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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Fred wrote:

> My '85 TD needed a new battery and PEP Boys had a Group 49 Bosch
> on promo, so I bought one. ($132.74 - $50 gift card and $5
> coupon).

Nice!

> The H8 (Autozone) that was in there did not quite fit, the 49
> however fits like it was made for it. (Maybe it was).

The BCI chart I have indicates the H8 is the DIN equivalent of an
BCI group 49 - so they are _supposed_ to be the same.  Thus either
one should "fit like it was made for it".  Make me wonder about
the AutoZone battery.

Here is a chart I built showing the DIN and EN numbers as well as
the BCI. I have failed to figure out why there are two DIN
numbers...

NOTE 1: all of these batteries are 175 mm wide, so I did not
list that dimension.

NOTE 2: The batteries with a "b4" holddown may be a problem
for 123 cars.  I don't know the clamping range of the
factory clips.

NOTE 3: This chart is in the same order as the last listing -
descending volume as calculated from the maximum
exterior dimensions.  With all else equal, greater
volume should equal greater capacity - unless the
calculated volume does not compare to the internal
volume.  

| BCI |DIN| EN   | length | height | Holddown |
|-+-+-+--+++--|
|  49 | H8  | L5  | 88L5 |354 |190 | b3   |
|  93 | T8  | LB5 | 88LB |354 |175 | b3   |
| 94R | H7  | L4  | 77L4 |315 |190 | b3   |
|  92 | T7  | LB4 | 77LB |315 |175 | b3   |
| 98R | H6  | 3   | 66L3 |283 |190 | b4   |
|  48 | H6  | L3  | 66L3 |278 |190 | b3   |
|  41 | T65 | | 54LB |293 |175 | b4   |
| 40R | T6  | LB3 | 66LB |278 |175 | b1   |
|  91 | T6  | LB3 | 66LB |278 |175 | b3   |
| 97R | H5  | L6  |  |252 |190 | b4   |
|  47 | H5  | L2  | 55L2 |242 |190 | b3   |
| 96R | | |  |242 |175 | b5   |
|  90 | T5  | LB2 | 45LB |242 |175 | b3   |
|  42 | T5  | LB2 | 45LB |242 |175 | b4   |
| 67R | | |  |132 |176 | b2   |
| 99R | T4  | LB1 | 36LB |210 |175 | b3   |

Holddowns
 b1 - 10.5 mm high, long side only
 b2 - ?? high, short side only
 b3 - 10.5 mm high on long and short sides
 b4 - 19.0 mm high, long side only
 b5 - ?? high, long side only

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Re: [MBZ] Carbohydrate counting - was Now Fruits

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Kaleb wrote:

> I am assuming that if I am shooting for a certain carb number to
> stay under, even if I eat a sandwich with white bread as long as
> it comes in under that target I should be fine.

I'll say it again.  Keep the starch (carbs) and oils/fats 4 hours
apart and the quantity doesn't matter.

Again, a prerequisite is to eliminate processed sugars.  And as
much as possible, eat the whole "fruit" as unprocessed as possible
- like ground grain without the germ removed and not bleached (NOT
white), or roast beef, not bologna, the whole apple not apple
juice, etc.  It will take some time, but the weight will come
off.  And you will be a lot healthier too, so other issues may
clear up - like heart burn, sleep troubles, hypoglycemia,
headaches, etc.

Oh, and portion size won't matter either, if you listen to your
appetite.

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Re: [MBZ] OT sign of the times - be careful out there!

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Tower fly-by is a basic flight test technique to calibrate a new pitot-static 
system.  The test aircraft flies down a painted centerline in a stable trim 
condition (at various speeds) while the true AGL is read visually from the 
fly-by tower and the altimeter is read in the aircraft.  The rule is to stay at 
least one half wingspan above the ground to avoid data corruption from ground 
effect.  

My most memorable flyby was a 600 KIAS pass to a closed pattern.  The turn to 
downwind was wide, even at 7g, and we had to extend the downwind leg (a lot) to 
get slow enough to lower the gear.  The maintenance guys on the ramp thought it 
was very cool.  That memory is vivid, even after 40 years.

Scott

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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT sign of the times - be careful out there!
> 
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 20:24:25 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > Makes sense.  In the 40s, a pilot buzzing the tower got a severe
> > consequence too.
> 
> One afternoon when I was stationed at Peterson Field (now AFB) east of
> Colorado Springs (1972), an F-4 pilot flew by the tower to have a visual check
> on his landing gear. Those of us in the buildings adjacent to the flight 
> line, who
> had not been informed of this activity, were rather surprised by the roar of a
> jet so close. We ran out of the hanger to see what was going on just as made a
> second pass, very close to right over where we were. He was about 150' off
> the deck and his cockpit was about 200' away from me -- I could see him very
> clearly -- and it was LOUD!
> 
> Apparently things were OK because he circled around and landed without
> incident.
> 
> Since Peterson is a shared field with Colorado Springs Municipal, I'm sure
> commercial traffic was suspended while the landing gear check was going on!
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Green crack wagon

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I have an 82 300D with damage to the grill insert... How nice and how much?
Pic?

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 7:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have a couple nice W123 grilles...
>
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > W123 wagon?  Rich has one, 1979 model, that he's been thinking of
> > Knackering.
> > --
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> >
> > On October 19, 2017 7:43:38 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >Speaking of parts someone here was/is parting out a station wagon
> > >and
> > >had a pax rear window that was possibly available.. I need one and we
> > >were
> > >going to revisit when the part out happened.
> > >
> > >It's been so long ago, I forgot who it was... Please refresh me..
> > >Thanks in
> > >advance.
> > >
> > >On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
> > >mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Finding a viable example out west is getting very rare.  The good
> > >ones are
> > >> being made whole, and the parts examples are rotting in PnP.  Not
> > >much left
> > >> in between.
> > >>
> > >> clay
> > >>
> > >> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 6:52 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > I bet it has the even rarer "Zundfogle" million mile engine, too!
> > >> >
> > >> > -D
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Oct 19, 2017, at 8:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I don’t think it gets 40 mpg either does it?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Oct 19, 2017, at 3:27 AM, fmiser via Mercedes
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >>  Kaleb wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >>  1983 Mercedes 300TD-T Turbo Diesel Wagon
> > >> 
> > >>  https://enid.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-300td-
> > >> turbo/6348068344.html
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Wow.  The fellow thinks he knows S123 cars - but he doesn't.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> "...they were in competition at the time with the launch of the
> > >> >>> minivan and, unfortunately, lost that battle."
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> The first minivan was introduced by Chrysler in 1984, and the
> > >S123
> > >> >>> production ceased in 1985.  Not exactly "competition"
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> "The self leveling suspension system has been removed ... so this
> > >> >>>  one will no longer be plagued with the leaking system issue.
> > >> >>>  Often owners would come out to find their car sitting on the
> > >> >>>  rear bumper one morning and it wouldn't go back up."
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> *sigh* The SLS is a _good_ system.  Even with a total hydraulic
> > >> >>> failure, the car does not "sit on the rear bumper".  What he is
> > >> >>> trying to promote as a major feature I consider to be a huge
> > >> >>> detriment.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> "... I had to have this car shipped to Oklahoma from Seattle, WA
> > >> >>>  because they are that difficult to find in good condition.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Oops.  If he thinks this car is in good condition...
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> And the price - that is a BAT crazy price!  The air conditioner
> > >> >>> doesn't even blow ICE COLD.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> " I would easily classify this car as average to good."
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> BZZZT!
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] Green crack wagon

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Yes, 123 wagon... Rear most window, Right side. Neighbor's yard man's lawn
mower threw a rock into it and it's shattered the only thing keeping it
in is the window tint film on the inside that keeps all the pebble sized
pieces held together... and a layer of clear strapping tape over the
outside...

Local Knackers here have NO wagons... Glass with the rubber would be
wonderful.. just the glass would be Just Fine... Packing and shipping
challenges could be met somehow...

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> W123 wagon?  Rich has one, 1979 model, that he's been thinking of
> Knackering.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On October 19, 2017 7:43:38 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >Speaking of parts someone here was/is parting out a station wagon
> >and
> >had a pax rear window that was possibly available.. I need one and we
> >were
> >going to revisit when the part out happened.
> >
> >It's been so long ago, I forgot who it was... Please refresh me..
> >Thanks in
> >advance.
> >
> >On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
> >mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Finding a viable example out west is getting very rare.  The good
> >ones are
> >> being made whole, and the parts examples are rotting in PnP.  Not
> >much left
> >> in between.
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 6:52 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I bet it has the even rarer "Zundfogle" million mile engine, too!
> >> >
> >> > -D
> >> >
> >> >> On Oct 19, 2017, at 8:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I don’t think it gets 40 mpg either does it?
> >> >>
> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> >>
> >> >> On Oct 19, 2017, at 3:27 AM, fmiser via Mercedes
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >>  Kaleb wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  1983 Mercedes 300TD-T Turbo Diesel Wagon
> >> 
> >>  https://enid.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-300td-
> >> turbo/6348068344.html
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Wow.  The fellow thinks he knows S123 cars - but he doesn't.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "...they were in competition at the time with the launch of the
> >> >>> minivan and, unfortunately, lost that battle."
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The first minivan was introduced by Chrysler in 1984, and the
> >S123
> >> >>> production ceased in 1985.  Not exactly "competition"
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "The self leveling suspension system has been removed ... so this
> >> >>>  one will no longer be plagued with the leaking system issue.
> >> >>>  Often owners would come out to find their car sitting on the
> >> >>>  rear bumper one morning and it wouldn't go back up."
> >> >>>
> >> >>> *sigh* The SLS is a _good_ system.  Even with a total hydraulic
> >> >>> failure, the car does not "sit on the rear bumper".  What he is
> >> >>> trying to promote as a major feature I consider to be a huge
> >> >>> detriment.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "... I had to have this car shipped to Oklahoma from Seattle, WA
> >> >>>  because they are that difficult to find in good condition.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Oops.  If he thinks this car is in good condition...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> And the price - that is a BAT crazy price!  The air conditioner
> >> >>> doesn't even blow ICE COLD.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> " I would easily classify this car as average to good."
> >> >>>
> >> >>> BZZZT!
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT sign of the times - be careful out there!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 20:24:25 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Makes sense.  In the 40s, a pilot buzzing the tower got a severe 
> consequence too.

One afternoon when I was stationed at Peterson Field (now AFB) east of
Colorado Springs (1972), an F-4 pilot flew by the tower to have a visual
check on his landing gear. Those of us in the buildings adjacent to the
flight line, who had not been informed of this activity, were rather
surprised by the roar of a jet so close. We ran out of the hanger to see
what was going on just as made a second pass, very close to right over
where we were. He was about 150' off the deck and his cockpit was about
200' away from me -- I could see him very clearly -- and it was LOUD!

Apparently things were OK because he circled around and landed without
incident.

Since Peterson is a shared field with Colorado Springs Municipal, I'm
sure commercial traffic was suspended while the landing gear check was
going on!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Zantac

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

If it were me, I would take 150 mg according to the instructions on this 
website:

https://www.zantacotc.com/zantac-FAQ.html

After I saw that ranitidine 150 mg worked, I would try 75 mg to see if that 
worked.

Good luck,
Gerry

~~~
Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Just bought my first box of 75 mg Zantac.
> 
> Directions state to take one 30 to 60 minutes BEFORE eating to prevent
> symptoms, but can also be taken on the spot to relieve symptoms.
> 
> Question:  If I eat 3 hrs. before bedtime, then wake up 3-4 hours later
> with heartburn, how should I take the pill?
> 
> a. As directed - before eating
> b. At bedtime
> c. At 4 AM when the GERD attacks.
> 
> TIA,
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Green crack wagon

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I have a couple nice W123 grilles...

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> W123 wagon?  Rich has one, 1979 model, that he's been thinking of
> Knackering.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On October 19, 2017 7:43:38 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >Speaking of parts someone here was/is parting out a station wagon
> >and
> >had a pax rear window that was possibly available.. I need one and we
> >were
> >going to revisit when the part out happened.
> >
> >It's been so long ago, I forgot who it was... Please refresh me..
> >Thanks in
> >advance.
> >
> >On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
> >mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Finding a viable example out west is getting very rare.  The good
> >ones are
> >> being made whole, and the parts examples are rotting in PnP.  Not
> >much left
> >> in between.
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 6:52 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I bet it has the even rarer "Zundfogle" million mile engine, too!
> >> >
> >> > -D
> >> >
> >> >> On Oct 19, 2017, at 8:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I don’t think it gets 40 mpg either does it?
> >> >>
> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> >>
> >> >> On Oct 19, 2017, at 3:27 AM, fmiser via Mercedes
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >>  Kaleb wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  1983 Mercedes 300TD-T Turbo Diesel Wagon
> >> 
> >>  https://enid.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-300td-
> >> turbo/6348068344.html
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Wow.  The fellow thinks he knows S123 cars - but he doesn't.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "...they were in competition at the time with the launch of the
> >> >>> minivan and, unfortunately, lost that battle."
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The first minivan was introduced by Chrysler in 1984, and the
> >S123
> >> >>> production ceased in 1985.  Not exactly "competition"
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "The self leveling suspension system has been removed ... so this
> >> >>>  one will no longer be plagued with the leaking system issue.
> >> >>>  Often owners would come out to find their car sitting on the
> >> >>>  rear bumper one morning and it wouldn't go back up."
> >> >>>
> >> >>> *sigh* The SLS is a _good_ system.  Even with a total hydraulic
> >> >>> failure, the car does not "sit on the rear bumper".  What he is
> >> >>> trying to promote as a major feature I consider to be a huge
> >> >>> detriment.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "... I had to have this car shipped to Oklahoma from Seattle, WA
> >> >>>  because they are that difficult to find in good condition.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Oops.  If he thinks this car is in good condition...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> And the price - that is a BAT crazy price!  The air conditioner
> >> >>> doesn't even blow ICE COLD.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> " I would easily classify this car as average to good."
> >> >>>
> >> >>> BZZZT!
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Zantac

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Point taken.  I find that eating NLT 6 minimizes the problem but that's
very difficult for me to achieve.

Problem is independent of diet.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
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> Andrew wrote:
> > Directions state to take one 30 to 60 minutes BEFORE eating to prevent
> > symptoms...
>
> Okay - this is OkieBenz.  Apply your "systems" approach to all matters
> OkieBenz?  For flat tire, use duct tape.  For oil, use french-fry oil.
> For clean car, let the rain do it.  Or... address the problem, not the
> symptom.  Pharma only makes sense for lazy americans not OkieBenz
> where we assess problems for cause instead of merely managing
> symptoms.  Assess the cause instead of addressing merely symptoms.
> i.e. less habanero jam, eat less at dinner, eat yogurt at dinner, add
> more acid (add Braggs) to your eating because it may be that your diet
> is suffering too little acid rather too much acid wherein digestion
> symptom appears like acid.  Find the problem, not merely stare at the
> symptom.
> tin.man
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of carbs

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

THey are good for you.  get over the "carb" kick.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
October 18, 2017 at 7:25 PM
I tell you one thing I am having a hard time not being able to eat 
refried beans. Also when it gets cooler I like a big pot of brown 
beans. I thought beans were good for you, but too many carbs.


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Re: [MBZ] OT sign of the times - be careful out there!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Makes sense.  In the 40s, a pilot buzzing the tower got a severe 
consequence too.



OK Don via Mercedes 
October 18, 2017 at 1:49 PM
It looked like it was a fly by of the tower, and not the full length 
of the
runway, hence the turn near the terminal. Can't see whether it was 
directly

over the terminal or not. It was not what those not on the radio expected,
therefore it was scary.


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Re: [MBZ] Tars Wuz: Polishing Glass

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The Nokians came in yesterday.  $35 to mount and balance 2, no stems.  
THey are round, built 4716, so they are about a year old.  I'm guessing 
they were cheap because they aged out.  Still should be good for 4 yrs 
or so.


They were built in RUSSIA!  I never had rooskie tars before!  Andrew 
should buy these and not his el cheapos.  THen he could support his 
cause!  (Well, I guess the cheep chinee ones were supporting mao's 
cause!)  Now he has an alternative!


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Re: [MBZ] Tars Wuz: Polishing Glass

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

H Maybe the Michelin frogs discontinued the practice and made 
everyone sell real michelins.  Last I knew wally and dead sam other 
brands only had warranty at their stores.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
October 18, 2017 at 1:18 PM
Just checked with Costco.

Bzzzt!! Wrong! Unless you buy a branded tire (Kirkland?) made 
specifically for the warehouse, the brand name tires are identical to 
the same name tire sold elsewhere. Also, the warranty booklet says you 
can have the tire repaired or replaced by any Michelin approved tire 
shop. No exclusivity to Costco.


Just to be sure I got the SKU for my tire and was able to find the 
exact same tire using the SKU on Tire Rack and elsewhere.


Nearly every online reference I saw to the subject was at least five 
years old. Even Consumer Reports dismissed it.


-D


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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Surely he dispatched the bird first, plucking a live one would be a serious 
challenge. ;)

Curt

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  On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:49 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:   Our son made and baked his bread while serving in the Peace Corps in 
Malawi
- no running water, no electricity - just a well and a charcoal "cooker"
thing. Basically a Dutch oven arraingement. He didn't see why he should
suffer culinarily - he baked cookies every weekend, learned to pluck and
dress a live bird, etc.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For anybody that thinks its "too hard" I've made it by hand baked in a
> Coleman oven.I regularly bake bread at camp with no running water. Cleanup
> is a PITA but the baking isn't hard. One year it was the only bread my dad
> would eat...
> -Curt
>
>
>    On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 3:23:31 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  On 19/10/2017 2:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > Bread needs 4 things:FlourWater YeastSalt
> > Anything else is filler and is the problem. Ideally let the yeast and
> flour get to know each other for 18-24 hours before baking...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
>
> Quite right. My wife routinely makes a nice French bread loaf that
> includes nothing apart from what you list. Very good the first day and
> great toast the next with the left overs.
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Green crack wagon

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

W123 wagon?  Rich has one, 1979 model, that he's been thinking of Knackering.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 19, 2017 7:43:38 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Speaking of parts someone here was/is parting out a station wagon
>and
>had a pax rear window that was possibly available.. I need one and we
>were
>going to revisit when the part out happened.
>
>It's been so long ago, I forgot who it was... Please refresh me..
>Thanks in
>advance.
>
>On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
>mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Finding a viable example out west is getting very rare.  The good
>ones are
>> being made whole, and the parts examples are rotting in PnP.  Not
>much left
>> in between.
>>
>> clay
>>
>> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 6:52 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes
>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I bet it has the even rarer "Zundfogle" million mile engine, too!
>> >
>> > -D
>> >
>> >> On Oct 19, 2017, at 8:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don’t think it gets 40 mpg either does it?
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 19, 2017, at 3:27 AM, fmiser via Mercedes
>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>>  Kaleb wrote:
>> >>>
>>  1983 Mercedes 300TD-T Turbo Diesel Wagon
>> 
>>  https://enid.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-300td-
>> turbo/6348068344.html
>> >>>
>> >>> Wow.  The fellow thinks he knows S123 cars - but he doesn't.
>> >>>
>> >>> "...they were in competition at the time with the launch of the
>> >>> minivan and, unfortunately, lost that battle."
>> >>>
>> >>> The first minivan was introduced by Chrysler in 1984, and the
>S123
>> >>> production ceased in 1985.  Not exactly "competition"
>> >>>
>> >>> "The self leveling suspension system has been removed ... so this
>> >>>  one will no longer be plagued with the leaking system issue.
>> >>>  Often owners would come out to find their car sitting on the
>> >>>  rear bumper one morning and it wouldn't go back up."
>> >>>
>> >>> *sigh* The SLS is a _good_ system.  Even with a total hydraulic
>> >>> failure, the car does not "sit on the rear bumper".  What he is
>> >>> trying to promote as a major feature I consider to be a huge
>> >>> detriment.
>> >>>
>> >>> "... I had to have this car shipped to Oklahoma from Seattle, WA
>> >>>  because they are that difficult to find in good condition.
>> >>>
>> >>> Oops.  If he thinks this car is in good condition...
>> >>>
>> >>> And the price - that is a BAT crazy price!  The air conditioner
>> >>> doesn't even blow ICE COLD.
>> >>>
>> >>> " I would easily classify this car as average to good."
>> >>>
>> >>> BZZZT!
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 19, 2017 at 7:54 PM Fred Moir via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Andrew.
> 
> By the label:-
> 
> 850 at 0c
> 
> 1000 at 32c

850 CCA, 1000 CA. Pretty standard for a 49.
It's good to know that an H8 isn't exactly a 49. I knew a 93 was slightly 
different, but don't remember why. IIRC all the 116,123,126 etc came with 49s 
in them. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Andrew.

By the label:-

850 at 0c

1000 at 32c


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of Andrew Strasfogel 
via Mercedes 
Sent: 19 October 2017 17:27
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel; Meade Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Batteries

How many CCAs?
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Re: [MBZ] Green crack wagon

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Speaking of parts someone here was/is parting out a station wagon and
had a pax rear window that was possibly available.. I need one and we were
going to revisit when the part out happened.

It's been so long ago, I forgot who it was... Please refresh me.. Thanks in
advance.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Finding a viable example out west is getting very rare.  The good ones are
> being made whole, and the parts examples are rotting in PnP.  Not much left
> in between.
>
> clay
>
> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 6:52 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I bet it has the even rarer "Zundfogle" million mile engine, too!
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Oct 19, 2017, at 8:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don’t think it gets 40 mpg either does it?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Oct 19, 2017, at 3:27 AM, fmiser via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
>  Kaleb wrote:
> >>>
>  1983 Mercedes 300TD-T Turbo Diesel Wagon
> 
>  https://enid.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-300td-
> turbo/6348068344.html
> >>>
> >>> Wow.  The fellow thinks he knows S123 cars - but he doesn't.
> >>>
> >>> "...they were in competition at the time with the launch of the
> >>> minivan and, unfortunately, lost that battle."
> >>>
> >>> The first minivan was introduced by Chrysler in 1984, and the S123
> >>> production ceased in 1985.  Not exactly "competition"
> >>>
> >>> "The self leveling suspension system has been removed ... so this
> >>>  one will no longer be plagued with the leaking system issue.
> >>>  Often owners would come out to find their car sitting on the
> >>>  rear bumper one morning and it wouldn't go back up."
> >>>
> >>> *sigh* The SLS is a _good_ system.  Even with a total hydraulic
> >>> failure, the car does not "sit on the rear bumper".  What he is
> >>> trying to promote as a major feature I consider to be a huge
> >>> detriment.
> >>>
> >>> "... I had to have this car shipped to Oklahoma from Seattle, WA
> >>>  because they are that difficult to find in good condition.
> >>>
> >>> Oops.  If he thinks this car is in good condition...
> >>>
> >>> And the price - that is a BAT crazy price!  The air conditioner
> >>> doesn't even blow ICE COLD.
> >>>
> >>> " I would easily classify this car as average to good."
> >>>
> >>> BZZZT!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Any natural oil or fat is fine so long as you stay within the necessary caloric 
intake limit.  Avoid hydrogenated fats like poison, since in many cases they 
are.  Trans fats are the leading cause of coronary artery disease as far as I 
can tell.
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Tin Man sez:

>‎Oil is good, as in... High Fat Low Carb

Olive oil, yes. 
Butter, YES!
Beef tallow, yes
Lard, yes. 
Vegetable oil, not so much.

Please. Watch this Dr.'s videos. 
I'm just regurgitating what she is saying. 

‎https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC61A-gdOvrzm4xGsZPMMuOA

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Tars Wuz: Polishing Glass

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I saw the one in Honolulu once I think.  Other than that the closest 
thing I see is dead sam or the trainloads of cosco containers going 
through town loaded with tons of cheep chinee junk.


None in the places I travel.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
October 18, 2017 at 12:58 PM
I am all too aware of this, having known about the Dead Sam’s 
Michelins from some years ago. For the money I’ll roll the dice, and 
it’s not like there aren’t Costcos darned near everywhere you go these 
days.


I am going to be asking them about this when I pick it up just for a 
current take on the situation. I’ll report back what I hear.


-D


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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I filed two complaints with the commissioner.  The most recent had transcripts 
of our email conversations.  That was about two weeks ago.  I have had no 
contact with the original adjuster since.  The most recent clown at Amica 
called me Tuesday before lunch to “discuss” the commissioner’s complaint.   I 
derailed him by asking if he intended to settle as his superior had arranged 
with SWMBA a week ago.  He laid out the plans as he understood, then wanted me 
to respond right then.  I asked him if the incso had actually paid the body 
shop’s initial bill.He lied, and said they had.  I called the shop and they 
said not.  

I may find out how the commissioner’s complaint had any impact, once the boys 
at Amica have the full payments on the desk, my title clean, and stop 
prevaricating.

clay




> On Oct 19, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 14:59:48 -0700 clay monroe via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Well, I am sort of back in the saddle.
>> 
>> I picked up Allen this morning.  The shop finished it last night.  She
>> drives as well as I remember.
>> 
>> NOW, to get the SOB insurance people to do their job.
> 
> When did you contact the Insurance Commissioner?
> 
> We are all interested in what he said.
> 
> The "insurance adjuster" was involved in criminal activity ...
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Re: [MBZ] OT bread

[OK Don via Mercedes]

It is in our case - I still don't have enough hours in the day. We keep
busy, mostly doing things that we want to do. Love it. Should have done it
earlier, if the money had been there . . .

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
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> OK Don wrote:
> > Retirement is the best time of my life - don't diss it.
>
> Dis it.
> It really ain't all that most make it out to be.
> tin.man
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Our son made and baked his bread while serving in the Peace Corps in Malawi
- no running water, no electricity - just a well and a charcoal "cooker"
thing. Basically a Dutch oven arraingement. He didn't see why he should
suffer culinarily - he baked cookies every weekend, learned to pluck and
dress a live bird, etc.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For anybody that thinks its "too hard" I've made it by hand baked in a
> Coleman oven.I regularly bake bread at camp with no running water. Cleanup
> is a PITA but the baking isn't hard. One year it was the only bread my dad
> would eat...
> -Curt
>
>
> On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 3:23:31 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  On 19/10/2017 2:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > Bread needs 4 things:FlourWater YeastSalt
> > Anything else is filler and is the problem. Ideally let the yeast and
> flour get to know each other for 18-24 hours before baking...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
>
> Quite right. My wife routinely makes a nice French bread loaf that
> includes nothing apart from what you list. Very good the first day and
> great toast the next with the left overs.
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Well, if you are THAT lazy, and can[t plan ahead by a day, read the
ingrediants - no white flour, 100% whole grains.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to
> buy?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't
> buy
> > good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
> > sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
> > and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
> > absorbing carbs.
> > Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Bread is a waistline killer.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dan,
> >>> I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the
> bread
> >>> (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it
> also
> >>> helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all
> >> about
> >>> cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And
> yes
> >>> Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the
> injected
> >>> diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
> >>> Good luck to all in these endeavors...
> >>> Best Wishes,
> >>> Roger
> >>> Roger Hale
> >>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> >>> Monroe, Ga.
> >>> 770-267-0850
> >>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> >>>
> >>>
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> >
> > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
> of
> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
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> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Either - we do both. The sourdought starter is from the yeast occurring  in
the iar in our house - who knows what it is?
My wifw is now on her second 50 lb. bag of yeast in the last 25 years or so
- we keep it in the freezer, pull out a pound or so when needed. It's MUCH
less expensive this way.

Oil is high calories - which are what really count, not carbs.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> OK Don wrote:
> > Load it up with whole grain flours,
> > sproated if you wish, little to no oil...
>
> Leavening or natural sourdough?
> Oil is good, as in... High Fat Low Carb.
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Re: [MBZ] OT bread

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

OK Don wrote:
> Retirement is the best time of my life - don't diss it.

Dis it.
It really ain't all that most make it out to be.
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Re: [MBZ] OT bread

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Retirement is the best time of my life - don't diss it.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:08 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Max wrote:
> > I'm going to add her
> > works to my list of books that maybe I'll have time to read in
> retirement...
>
> Don't retire.  Be minimalist.  Die.  It always happens.
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

OK Don wrote:
> Load it up with whole grain flours,
> sproated if you wish, little to no oil...

Leavening or natural sourdough?
Oil is good, as in... High Fat Low Carb.
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 14:59:48 -0700 clay monroe via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Well, I am sort of back in the saddle.
> 
> I picked up Allen this morning.  The shop finished it last night.  She
> drives as well as I remember.
> 
> NOW, to get the SOB insurance people to do their job.

When did you contact the Insurance Commissioner?

We are all interested in what he said.

The "insurance adjuster" was involved in criminal activity ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Zantac

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Andrew wrote:
> Directions state to take one 30 to 60 minutes BEFORE eating to prevent
> symptoms...

Okay - this is OkieBenz.  Apply your "systems" approach to all matters
OkieBenz?  For flat tire, use duct tape.  For oil, use french-fry oil.
For clean car, let the rain do it.  Or... address the problem, not the
symptom.  Pharma only makes sense for lazy americans not OkieBenz
where we assess problems for cause instead of merely managing
symptoms.  Assess the cause instead of addressing merely symptoms.
i.e. less habanero jam, eat less at dinner, eat yogurt at dinner, add
more acid (add Braggs) to your eating because it may be that your diet
is suffering too little acid rather too much acid wherein digestion
symptom appears like acid.  Find the problem, not merely stare at the
symptom.
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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 21:10:41 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Alles.
> 
> My '85 TD needed a new battery and PEP Boys had a Group 49 Bosch on
> promo, so I bought one. ($132.74 - $50 gift card and $5 coupon).

That is the one that is in the '82 240D/3.0 Kaleb now has. It worked just
fine for us. I also got it on special from Pep Boys ...


> The H8 (Autozone) that was in there did not quite fit, the 49 however
> fits like it was made for it. (Maybe it was).

Maybe it was ...


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Re: [MBZ] OT Mercedes viscous fan clutch

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Lol

On Oct 19, 2017 5:23 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Da Behrs.  No better in this case.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Which brand is the better deal: ACM brand for ~$60, or Behr for ~$95?
> >
> > FCP Euro claims that ACM is the OE brand fan clutch and Behr is OEM.
> Price
> > seems backward to me, OE is usually more expensive than OEM.
> >
> > [I've pretty much given up on the idea of having some time in the near
> > future to play with reviving a dead viscous clutch.]
> >
> >
> > -
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> > Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Ok, so progress is good.  Keep pressing!
-- 
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'95 E300

On October 19, 2017 5:59:48 PM EDT, clay monroe via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Well, I am sort of back in the saddle.
>
>I picked up Allen this morning.  The shop finished it last night.  She
>drives as well as I remember.
>
>NOW, to get the SOB insurance people to do their job.
>
>I paid to ransom my car before the adjuster could get his tow truck
>over and steal the car from the shop to send to the CoParts yard. 
>Insco was supposed to pay the storage fees, but never did.  When asked
>this week, they claimed they had, twice.   When I asked the body shop
>last week and this, as well as when I paid to pick up the car, turns
>out it never had been paid.
>
>I was supposed to sign a settlement at lunch, but there were just too
>many balls dropped.  I am holding out for them to get the proper
>payments made, and have proof that the title has been cleared, that it
>never shows as salvage.  When the stars align, then I can sign.
>
>
>
>clay 
>
>1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>1986 SDL - Polei
>1982 300 SD - Allen
>
>retired models-
>2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
>1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Sep 30, 2017, at 11:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Jails are full of people who made "bad choices". My take on his
>actions
>> is, regardless of how it is phrased, his action constitutes "Mens
>Rae"
>> which is a legal term for "Thought followed by Act" and is the
>qualifier
>> for having done a criminal act.
>> 
>> With all respect and regard for SHMBO wearing the legal hat... I
>suggest
>> you would be best served to engage local counsel and push legal
>resolution.
>> 
>> To my knowledge, there is no specific requirement to settle vehicle
>damage
>> quickly. So I brush off that his "desire to settle quickly" was a
>factor.
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 10:56 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> SWMBA is sort of looped in.  Overly busy with all the oil and gas
>work,
>>> now that Turnip has let loose the hounds of bidness, and smote the
>>> enviro-wienies.
>>> 
>>> I did make mention regarding the question if Amica trained him to be
>a
>>> putz, or is he just a congenital neo-max zoom-dweebie.
>>> 
>>> On more contemplation, I suspect he made a conscious choice to speed
>along
>>> a resolution because it took so long for me to locate a shop willing
>to
>>> even look at the car.  Most of the shops I took it to, just stared
>at it
>>> and passed.  No desire to work with single stage, no ability to
>match the
>>> paint with the stuff they spray, not enough payout based on the
>estimators
>>> initial review.
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
 On Sep 30, 2017, at 4:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
>
>>> wrote:
 
 A... Contraire` mon ami
 
 To work at the insurance company, which has to possess a license
>from the
 State, the individual working for that company has to also either
>be
 licensed, or meet some state requirements to work the business
>In
>>> every
 state I have experience in dealing with..
 
 Thus... the Company is legally culpable for the actions of it's
>employees
 to follow the law failure to do so.. either by deliberate
>intent, or
>>> by
 negligence... qualifies as having done harm to our esteemed fellow
 member... ie "individually harmed".
 
 If it is found in the discovery phase of trial preparation, such
>actions
 are "regular and common" and the Company not only allows it, but
>>> practices
 such in due course, even more powerful... for the plaintiff...
 
 I have contact with an attorney here who, for the past 40 years has
>only
 taken insurance malpractice cases... He has not lost a case in 38
>>> years
 I'm sure there is another like him in the subject state
 
 On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> 
>> On September 30, 2017 at 3:06 PM G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> About now.. I would be dialing a lawyer... were it me.
> 
> She's in Alaska, but I'm pretty sure Clay has been telling her all
>about
> it.
> Agree with you that messing with titled property that belongs to
>neither
> him nor his employer is clearly illegal, I just no longer think it
>done
>>> was
> with malicious intent. Never be too hasty to ascribe malicious
>intent
>>> when
> sheer stupidity is a plausible explanation.
> Mitch.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT bread

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Max wrote:
> I'm going to add her
> works to my list of books that maybe I'll have time to read in retirement...

Don't retire.  Be minimalist.  Die.  It always happens.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Scanner for Floyd

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Max wrote:
> There, I fixed it for you...

www.ebay.com/itm/302458929502

Even better.  Who cares about the description in the link along with
all their other crafty redirects.
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Well, I am sort of back in the saddle.

I picked up Allen this morning.  The shop finished it last night.  She drives 
as well as I remember.

NOW, to get the SOB insurance people to do their job.

I paid to ransom my car before the adjuster could get his tow truck over and 
steal the car from the shop to send to the CoParts yard.  Insco was supposed to 
pay the storage fees, but never did.  When asked this week, they claimed they 
had, twice.   When I asked the body shop last week and this, as well as when I 
paid to pick up the car, turns out it never had been paid.

I was supposed to sign a settlement at lunch, but there were just too many 
balls dropped.  I am holding out for them to get the proper payments made, and 
have proof that the title has been cleared, that it never shows as salvage.  
When the stars align, then I can sign.



clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Sep 30, 2017, at 11:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Jails are full of people who made "bad choices". My take on his actions
> is, regardless of how it is phrased, his action constitutes "Mens Rae"
> which is a legal term for "Thought followed by Act" and is the qualifier
> for having done a criminal act.
> 
> With all respect and regard for SHMBO wearing the legal hat... I suggest
> you would be best served to engage local counsel and push legal resolution.
> 
> To my knowledge, there is no specific requirement to settle vehicle damage
> quickly. So I brush off that his "desire to settle quickly" was a factor.
> 
> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 10:56 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> SWMBA is sort of looped in.  Overly busy with all the oil and gas work,
>> now that Turnip has let loose the hounds of bidness, and smote the
>> enviro-wienies.
>> 
>> I did make mention regarding the question if Amica trained him to be a
>> putz, or is he just a congenital neo-max zoom-dweebie.
>> 
>> On more contemplation, I suspect he made a conscious choice to speed along
>> a resolution because it took so long for me to locate a shop willing to
>> even look at the car.  Most of the shops I took it to, just stared at it
>> and passed.  No desire to work with single stage, no ability to match the
>> paint with the stuff they spray, not enough payout based on the estimators
>> initial review.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2017, at 4:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A... Contraire` mon ami
>>> 
>>> To work at the insurance company, which has to possess a license from the
>>> State, the individual working for that company has to also either be
>>> licensed, or meet some state requirements to work the business In
>> every
>>> state I have experience in dealing with..
>>> 
>>> Thus... the Company is legally culpable for the actions of it's employees
>>> to follow the law failure to do so.. either by deliberate intent, or
>> by
>>> negligence... qualifies as having done harm to our esteemed fellow
>>> member... ie "individually harmed".
>>> 
>>> If it is found in the discovery phase of trial preparation, such actions
>>> are "regular and common" and the Company not only allows it, but
>> practices
>>> such in due course, even more powerful... for the plaintiff...
>>> 
>>> I have contact with an attorney here who, for the past 40 years has only
>>> taken insurance malpractice cases... He has not lost a case in 38
>> years
>>> I'm sure there is another like him in the subject state
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 
> On September 30, 2017 at 3:06 PM G Mann via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> About now.. I would be dialing a lawyer... were it me.
 
 She's in Alaska, but I'm pretty sure Clay has been telling her all about
 it.
 Agree with you that messing with titled property that belongs to neither
 him nor his employer is clearly illegal, I just no longer think it done
>> was
 with malicious intent. Never be too hasty to ascribe malicious intent
>> when
 sheer stupidity is a plausible explanation.
 Mitch.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mercedes viscous fan clutch

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I concur, ordered it.  Now the wait for shipping
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On October 19, 2017 5:23:49 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Da Behrs.  No better in this case.
>
>-D
>
>
>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Which brand is the better deal: ACM brand for ~$60, or Behr for ~$95?
>> 
>> FCP Euro claims that ACM is the OE brand fan clutch and Behr is OEM. 
>Price
>> seems backward to me, OE is usually more expensive than OEM.
>> 
>> [I've pretty much given up on the idea of having some time in the
>near
>> future to play with reviving a dead viscous clutch.]
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

How many CCAs?

On Oct 19, 2017 5:13 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Sounds like a good deal, let us know how it holds up.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On October 19, 2017 5:10:41 PM EDT, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >Alles.
> >
> >My '85 TD needed a new battery and PEP Boys had a Group 49 Bosch on
> >promo, so I bought one. ($132.74 - $50 gift card and $5 coupon).
> >
> >The H8 (Autozone) that was in there did not quite fit, the 49 however
> >fits like it was made for it. (Maybe it was).
> >
> >YMMV
> >
> >Fred.
> >
> >
> >Fred Moir.
> >Lynn MA.
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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

How many CCAs?

On Oct 19, 2017 5:13 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Sounds like a good deal, let us know how it holds up.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On October 19, 2017 5:10:41 PM EDT, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >Alles.
> >
> >My '85 TD needed a new battery and PEP Boys had a Group 49 Bosch on
> >promo, so I bought one. ($132.74 - $50 gift card and $5 coupon).
> >
> >The H8 (Autozone) that was in there did not quite fit, the 49 however
> >fits like it was made for it. (Maybe it was).
> >
> >YMMV
> >
> >Fred.
> >
> >
> >Fred Moir.
> >Lynn MA.
> >Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mercedes viscous fan clutch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Da Behrs.  No better in this case.

-D


> On Oct 19, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Which brand is the better deal: ACM brand for ~$60, or Behr for ~$95?
> 
> FCP Euro claims that ACM is the OE brand fan clutch and Behr is OEM.  Price
> seems backward to me, OE is usually more expensive than OEM.
> 
> [I've pretty much given up on the idea of having some time in the near
> future to play with reviving a dead viscous clutch.]
> 
> 
> -
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> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mercedes viscous fan clutch

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Behr is the gold standard. Never heard of the other off brand. They last
decades so the cost differential is inconsequential.

On Oct 19, 2017 3:41 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Which brand is the better deal: ACM brand for ~$60, or Behr for ~$95?
>
> FCP Euro claims that ACM is the OE brand fan clutch and Behr is OEM.  Price
> seems backward to me, OE is usually more expensive than OEM.
>
> [I've pretty much given up on the idea of having some time in the near
> future to play with reviving a dead viscous clutch.]
>
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎The highest I have gone is less than 50 but most days have been around 25-30.

That's good!

 I went to the cardiologist today and they found nothing from the monitor. I am 
going back in a couple of weeks for a stress test.

More good news!

 The wife thinks I am being overboard on the carb cutting and the cardiologist 
agreed.

You have to remember the government guidelines (Which came about from a panel 
chaired by George McGovern)

‎https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Select_Committee_on_Nutrition_and_Human_Needs

are wrong. Since 1980 obesity has exploded. Low
 Does that mean I can eat some ice cream tonight?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Green crack wagon

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Finding a viable example out west is getting very rare.  The good ones are 
being made whole, and the parts examples are rotting in PnP.  Not much left in 
between.   

clay

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 6:52 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I bet it has the even rarer "Zundfogle" million mile engine, too!
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 8:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t think it gets 40 mpg either does it?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 3:27 AM, fmiser via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
 Kaleb wrote:
>>> 
 1983 Mercedes 300TD-T Turbo Diesel Wagon
 
 https://enid.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-300td-turbo/6348068344.html
>>> 
>>> Wow.  The fellow thinks he knows S123 cars - but he doesn't.
>>> 
>>> "...they were in competition at the time with the launch of the
>>> minivan and, unfortunately, lost that battle."
>>> 
>>> The first minivan was introduced by Chrysler in 1984, and the S123
>>> production ceased in 1985.  Not exactly "competition"
>>> 
>>> "The self leveling suspension system has been removed ... so this
>>>  one will no longer be plagued with the leaking system issue.
>>>  Often owners would come out to find their car sitting on the
>>>  rear bumper one morning and it wouldn't go back up."
>>> 
>>> *sigh* The SLS is a _good_ system.  Even with a total hydraulic
>>> failure, the car does not "sit on the rear bumper".  What he is
>>> trying to promote as a major feature I consider to be a huge
>>> detriment.
>>> 
>>> "... I had to have this car shipped to Oklahoma from Seattle, WA
>>>  because they are that difficult to find in good condition.
>>> 
>>> Oops.  If he thinks this car is in good condition...
>>> 
>>> And the price - that is a BAT crazy price!  The air conditioner
>>> doesn't even blow ICE COLD.
>>> 
>>> " I would easily classify this car as average to good."
>>> 
>>> BZZZT!
 
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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Sounds like a good deal, let us know how it holds up.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 19, 2017 5:10:41 PM EDT, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Alles.
>
>My '85 TD needed a new battery and PEP Boys had a Group 49 Bosch on
>promo, so I bought one. ($132.74 - $50 gift card and $5 coupon).
>
>The H8 (Autozone) that was in there did not quite fit, the 49 however
>fits like it was made for it. (Maybe it was).
>
>YMMV
>
>Fred.
>
>
>Fred Moir.
>Lynn MA.
>Diesel preferred.
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[MBZ] Batteries

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Alles.

My '85 TD needed a new battery and PEP Boys had a Group 49 Bosch on promo, so I 
bought one. ($132.74 - $50 gift card and $5 coupon).

The H8 (Autozone) that was in there did not quite fit, the 49 however fits like 
it was made for it. (Maybe it was).

YMMV

Fred.


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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The highest I have gone is less than 50 but most days have been around 25-30. I 
went to the cardiologist today and they found nothing from the monitor. I am 
going back in a couple of weeks for a stress test. The wife thinks I am being 
overboard on the carb cutting and the cardiologist agreed. Does that mean I can 
eat some ice cream tonight?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb sez:
> 
>> ‎If my target is less than 103 per day, then >I should still have plenty of 
>> room in the >carb budget left, correct.
> 
> Yeah. But if you drop that to 25-40, you'll see a big difference.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

We have that in some of our local stores, its in the frozen foods aisle.
Doesn't taste like much, but it is "bread'...

Personally, that's too radical a change for our household, we'd never stick
with that, so I find something with no HFCS and does have multi-grains and
no sugar added, and then just limit the intake.

If I were going to make a sandwich to take to work every day, I'd get a
bread machine to control the ingredients and make sure it tastes like
something I'll eat for the rest of my life.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> ‎https://www.foodforlife.com/product/breads/ezekiel-49-
> flax-sprouted-whole-grain-bread
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎https://www.foodforlife.com/product/breads/ezekiel-49-flax-sprouted-whole-grain-bread

Rick
  Original Message  
From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to buy?
‎
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Max sez:

>‎Find a multi-grain that doesn't have any >high-fructose corn syrup (1st
>filter) and then the lowest added sugar / >sugar carbs that you can find.

Here ya go. 

This is the lowest carb bread I can find. 

‎https://www.foodforlife.com/product/breads/ezekiel-49-flax-sprouted-whole-grain-bread

You can make bread out of almond flour with less carbs, if you want. 

Here. Watch some TV and learn while you're at it. 

‎https://youtu.be/u4DNYdnuWGs

https://youtu.be/BZ5UCBunehE

‎https://youtu.be/E0MzyHl6mc4

https://youtu.be/3fM9o72ykww?list=PL3vlfBRQ9IXhxqKVo7m6shga54jiAL7A1



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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Kaleb sez:

>‎If my target is less than 103 per day, then >I should still have plenty of 
>room in the >carb budget left, correct.

Yeah. But if you drop that to 25-40, you'll see a big difference.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Zantac

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

In the past I have found that papaya pills were helpful with acute digestive 
problems. Luckily for me I don't experience this very much. Haven't in a long 
time.

Greg

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Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 12:00 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Zantac

Just bought my first box of 75 mg Zantac.

Directions state to take one 30 to 60 minutes BEFORE eating to prevent 
symptoms, but can also be taken on the spot to relieve symptoms.

Question:  If I eat 3 hrs. before bedtime, then wake up 3-4 hours later with 
heartburn, how should I take the pill?

a. As directed - before eating
b. At bedtime
c. At 4 AM when the GERD attacks.

TIA,

Andrew
1983 300TD, 361 k miles  white/blue leather 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Zantac

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I'm not sure why I think this, but IMO 3 hours is not enough time between 
dinner and bedtime.

FWIW,

Greg 

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Zantac

Just bought my first box of 75 mg Zantac.

Directions state to take one 30 to 60 minutes BEFORE eating to prevent 
symptoms, but can also be taken on the spot to relieve symptoms.

Question:  If I eat 3 hrs. before bedtime, then wake up 3-4 hours later with 
heartburn, how should I take the pill?

a. As directed - before eating
b. At bedtime
c. At 4 AM when the GERD attacks.

TIA,

Andrew
1983 300TD, 361 k miles  white/blue leather 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Zantac

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

My doc suggested at bedtime as I mentioned before. It’s not going to hurt any 
way you do it so try that and see if it works. If not try the others, see what 
works for you. 

The med basically inhibits acid production so whenever it is an issue would be 
what to get out ahead of. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just bought my first box of 75 mg Zantac.
> 
> Directions state to take one 30 to 60 minutes BEFORE eating to prevent
> symptoms, but can also be taken on the spot to relieve symptoms.
> 
> Question:  If I eat 3 hrs. before bedtime, then wake up 3-4 hours later
> with heartburn, how should I take the pill?
> 
> a. As directed - before eating
> b. At bedtime
> c. At 4 AM when the GERD attacks.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Andrew
> 1983 300TD, 361 k miles  white/blue leather
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[MBZ] OT Mercedes viscous fan clutch

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Which brand is the better deal: ACM brand for ~$60, or Behr for ~$95?

FCP Euro claims that ACM is the OE brand fan clutch and Behr is OEM.  Price
seems backward to me, OE is usually more expensive than OEM.

[I've pretty much given up on the idea of having some time in the near
future to play with reviving a dead viscous clutch.]


-
Max
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

For anybody that thinks its "too hard" I've made it by hand baked in a Coleman 
oven.I regularly bake bread at camp with no running water. Cleanup is a PITA 
but the baking isn't hard. One year it was the only bread my dad would eat...
-Curt
 

On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 3:23:31 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On 19/10/2017 2:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Bread needs 4 things:FlourWater YeastSalt
> Anything else is filler and is the problem. Ideally let the yeast and flour 
> get to know each other for 18-24 hours before baking...
> -Curt
>
>    

Quite right. My wife routinely makes a nice French bread loaf that 
includes nothing apart from what you list. Very good the first day and 
great toast the next with the left overs.
RB

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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 19/10/2017 2:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Bread needs 4 things:FlourWater YeastSalt
Anything else is filler and is the problem. Ideally let the yeast and flour get 
to know each other for 18-24 hours before baking...
-Curt

   


Quite right. My wife routinely makes a nice French bread loaf that 
includes nothing apart from what you list. Very good the first day and 
great toast the next with the left overs.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Zantac

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I am not a medical professional and this is purely my opinion on how I
would take it.

Try option b first, option c is your fallback if option b fails.  Next day,
try option a with option c as fallback.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  how should I take the pill?
>
> a. As directed - before eating
> b. At bedtime
> c. At 4 AM when the GERD attacks.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Bread needs 4 things:FlourWater YeastSalt
Anything else is filler and is the problem. Ideally let the yeast and flour get 
to know each other for 18-24 hours before baking...
-Curt

On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 3:15:03 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Kaleb,

Find a multi-grain that doesn't have any high-fructose corn syrup (1st
filter) and then the lowest added sugar / sugar carbs that you can find.
Nature Made is a brand around here that is OK and still very inexpensive.
Rye breads can also be OK.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to
> buy?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I am assuming that if I am shooting for a certain carb number to stay under, 
even if I eat a sandwich with white bread as long as it comes in under that 
target I should be fine. So if a piece of bread is day 13 net carbs and I eat a 
sandwich, depending on what else is on the sandwich we are talking maybe 30 or 
so carbs for that sandwich. If my target is less than 103 per day, then I 
should still have plenty of room in the carb budget left, correct. I think the 
problem would be if you are a ton of bread. Or at least more than a couple of 
slices a day.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Trader Joe's Ciabatta and Pugliese white bread are insanely delicious with 
> whipped butter.  Lock me away from it.
> 
> Forget about commercial packaged breads although German Rudischlager black 
> (mostly rye - no wheat) breads are pretty decent, if not particularly tasty.  
> Just aggressively wholesome.
> 
> Locally made French baguettes can be outstanding, depending on who's doing 
> the baking.  Whole Foods, e.g.
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to buy?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't buy
>> > good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
>> > sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
>> > and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
>> > absorbing carbs.
>> > Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Bread is a waistline killer.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Dan,
>> >>> I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread
>> >>> (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also
>> >>> helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all
>> >> about
>> >>> cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes
>> >>> Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected
>> >>> diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
>> >>> Good luck to all in these endeavors...
>> >>> Best Wishes,
>> >>> Roger
>> >>> Roger Hale
>> >>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> >>> Monroe, Ga.
>> >>> 770-267-0850
>> >>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > OK Don
>> >
>> > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
>> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>> >
>> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> > for themselves."
>> >
>> > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Zantac

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

I generally take it at bedtime.  YMMV.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just bought my first box of 75 mg Zantac.
>
> Directions state to take one 30 to 60 minutes BEFORE eating to prevent
> symptoms, but can also be taken on the spot to relieve symptoms.
>
> Question:  If I eat 3 hrs. before bedtime, then wake up 3-4 hours later
> with heartburn, how should I take the pill?
>
> a. As directed - before eating
> b. At bedtime
> c. At 4 AM when the GERD attacks.
>
> TIA,
>
> Andrew
> 1983 300TD, 361 k miles  white/blue leather
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Kaleb,

Find a multi-grain that doesn't have any high-fructose corn syrup (1st
filter) and then the lowest added sugar / sugar carbs that you can find.
Nature Made is a brand around here that is OK and still very inexpensive.
Rye breads can also be OK.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to
> buy?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 "For those that are too lazy to make bread what is an acceptable bread to buy?"
Get a bread maker, make bread in big batches, slice and freeze. Very little 
actual labor involved and you get better bread for small money.


-Curt

On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 2:18:53 PM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to buy?

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> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't buy
> good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
> sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
> and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
> absorbing carbs.
> Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .
> 
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Bread is a waistline killer.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dan,
>>> I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread
>>> (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also
>>> helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all
>> about
>>> cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes
>>> Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected
>>> diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
>>> Good luck to all in these endeavors...
>>> Best Wishes,
>>> Roger
>>> Roger Hale
>>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>>> Monroe, Ga.
>>> 770-267-0850
>>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>>> 
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[MBZ] OT: Zantac

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Just bought my first box of 75 mg Zantac.

Directions state to take one 30 to 60 minutes BEFORE eating to prevent
symptoms, but can also be taken on the spot to relieve symptoms.

Question:  If I eat 3 hrs. before bedtime, then wake up 3-4 hours later
with heartburn, how should I take the pill?

a. As directed - before eating
b. At bedtime
c. At 4 AM when the GERD attacks.

TIA,

Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

21 grains? I bet you can't name half of them.

Gotta be careful.  It could contain wheat, rye, oats = 99%
18 others = 1 %

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Probably most any whole grain/multi-grain.  THe more grains the better.
> There's this 21 grain thing I get at Costco, I see it now (for more) at the
> grocery store.  I'll get the name of it, has a green wrapper.  It is really
> good, esp toasted.
>
> You might look at a bread machine, it takes about 10min to dump stuff in
> and turn it on, a coupla hours later you have awesome fresh bread.  They're
> cheap too.  You can premix all your dry ingredients to save more time, then
> just measure out and add your wet ingredients, then let it do its thing.
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 10/19/17 2:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to
>> buy?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't
>>> buy
>>> good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
>>> sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
>>> and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
>>> absorbing carbs.
>>> Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Bread is a waistline killer.

 On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 Dan,
> I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the
> bread
> (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it
> also
> helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all
>
 about

> cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And
> yes
> Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the
> injected
> diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
> Good luck to all in these endeavors...
> Best Wishes,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>
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>>> OK Don
>>>
>>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
>>> of
>>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>>
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>>> who
>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>>> for themselves."
>>>
>>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Probably most any whole grain/multi-grain.  THe more grains the better.  
There's this 21 grain thing I get at Costco, I see it now (for more) at 
the grocery store.  I'll get the name of it, has a green wrapper.  It is 
really good, esp toasted.


You might look at a bread machine, it takes about 10min to dump stuff in 
and turn it on, a coupla hours later you have awesome fresh bread.  
They're cheap too.  You can premix all your dry ingredients to save more 
time, then just measure out and add your wet ingredients, then let it do 
its thing.


--FT


On 10/19/17 2:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to buy?

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On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't buy
good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
absorbing carbs.
Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Bread is a waistline killer.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Dan,
I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread
(behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also
helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all

about

cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes
Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected
diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
Good luck to all in these endeavors...
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com


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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Trader Joe's Ciabatta and Pugliese white bread are insanely delicious with
whipped butter.  Lock me away from it.

Forget about commercial packaged breads although German Rudischlager black
(mostly rye - no wheat) breads are pretty decent, if not particularly
tasty.  Just aggressively wholesome.

Locally made French baguettes can be outstanding, depending on who's doing
the baking.  Whole Foods, e.g.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to
> buy?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't
> buy
> > good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
> > sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
> > and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
> > absorbing carbs.
> > Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Bread is a waistline killer.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dan,
> >>> I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the
> bread
> >>> (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it
> also
> >>> helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all
> >> about
> >>> cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And
> yes
> >>> Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the
> injected
> >>> diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
> >>> Good luck to all in these endeavors...
> >>> Best Wishes,
> >>> Roger
> >>> Roger Hale
> >>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> >>> Monroe, Ga.
> >>> 770-267-0850
> >>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> >>>
> >>>
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> > OK Don
> >
> > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
> of
> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
> > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to buy?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't buy
> good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
> sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
> and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
> absorbing carbs.
> Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .
> 
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Bread is a waistline killer.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dan,
>>> I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread
>>> (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also
>>> helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all
>> about
>>> cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes
>>> Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected
>>> diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
>>> Good luck to all in these endeavors...
>>> Best Wishes,
>>> Roger
>>> Roger Hale
>>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>>> Monroe, Ga.
>>> 770-267-0850
>>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>>> 
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> -- 
> OK Don
> 
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[OK Don via Mercedes]

It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't buy
good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
absorbing carbs.
Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Bread is a waistline killer.
>
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Dan,
> > I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread
> > (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also
> > helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all
> about
> > cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes
> > Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected
> > diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
> > Good luck to all in these endeavors...
> > Best Wishes,
> > Roger
> > Roger Hale
> > Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> > Monroe, Ga.
> > 770-267-0850
> > www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Bread is a waistline killer.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dan,
> I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread
> (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also
> helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all about
> cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes
> Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected
> diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
> Good luck to all in these endeavors...
> Best Wishes,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Green crack wagon

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Must be one of my distant cousins.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I bet it has the even rarer "Zundfogle" million mile engine, too!
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 8:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don’t think it gets 40 mpg either does it?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 3:27 AM, fmiser via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> >>> Kaleb wrote:
> >>
> >>> 1983 Mercedes 300TD-T Turbo Diesel Wagon
> >>>
> >>> https://enid.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-300td-
> turbo/6348068344.html
> >>
> >> Wow.  The fellow thinks he knows S123 cars - but he doesn't.
> >>
> >> "...they were in competition at the time with the launch of the
> >>  minivan and, unfortunately, lost that battle."
> >>
> >> The first minivan was introduced by Chrysler in 1984, and the S123
> >> production ceased in 1985.  Not exactly "competition"
> >>
> >>  "The self leveling suspension system has been removed ... so this
> >>   one will no longer be plagued with the leaking system issue.
> >>   Often owners would come out to find their car sitting on the
> >>   rear bumper one morning and it wouldn't go back up."
> >>
> >> *sigh* The SLS is a _good_ system.  Even with a total hydraulic
> >> failure, the car does not "sit on the rear bumper".  What he is
> >> trying to promote as a major feature I consider to be a huge
> >> detriment.
> >>
> >>  "... I had to have this car shipped to Oklahoma from Seattle, WA
> >>   because they are that difficult to find in good condition.
> >>
> >> Oops.  If he thinks this car is in good condition...
> >>
> >> And the price - that is a BAT crazy price!  The air conditioner
> >> doesn't even blow ICE COLD.
> >>
> >>  " I would easily classify this car as average to good."
> >>
> >> BZZZT!
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Dan, 
I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread 
(behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also helps 
to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all about cutting 
out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes Kaleb, some 
Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected diesels (altho' I 
did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college). 
Good luck to all in these endeavors... 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
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Re: [MBZ] Green crack wagon

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I bet it has the even rarer "Zundfogle" million mile engine, too!

-D

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 8:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think it gets 40 mpg either does it?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 3:27 AM, fmiser via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>>> Kaleb wrote:
>> 
>>> 1983 Mercedes 300TD-T Turbo Diesel Wagon
>>> 
>>> https://enid.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-300td-turbo/6348068344.html
>> 
>> Wow.  The fellow thinks he knows S123 cars - but he doesn't.
>> 
>> "...they were in competition at the time with the launch of the
>>  minivan and, unfortunately, lost that battle."
>> 
>> The first minivan was introduced by Chrysler in 1984, and the S123
>> production ceased in 1985.  Not exactly "competition"
>> 
>>  "The self leveling suspension system has been removed ... so this
>>   one will no longer be plagued with the leaking system issue.
>>   Often owners would come out to find their car sitting on the
>>   rear bumper one morning and it wouldn't go back up."
>> 
>> *sigh* The SLS is a _good_ system.  Even with a total hydraulic
>> failure, the car does not "sit on the rear bumper".  What he is
>> trying to promote as a major feature I consider to be a huge
>> detriment.
>> 
>>  "... I had to have this car shipped to Oklahoma from Seattle, WA
>>   because they are that difficult to find in good condition.
>> 
>> Oops.  If he thinks this car is in good condition...
>> 
>> And the price - that is a BAT crazy price!  The air conditioner
>> doesn't even blow ICE COLD.
>> 
>>  " I would easily classify this car as average to good."
>> 
>> BZZZT!
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Re: [MBZ] OT bread

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Hildegard was an amazing person, and for a woman in her day was even 
more amazing.  She disturbed the balance.


Her music was also amazing, I have some CDs you can rip if you want, if 
you like medieval tunes.


--FT

On 10/19/17 8:52 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks, sounds like an interesting path of study.  I'm going to add her
works to my list of books that maybe I'll have time to read in retirement...

https://healthyhildegard.com/about-healthy-hildegard/


-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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https://healthyhildegard.com/spelt-flour-bread-recipe/

Hildegard vin Bingen was a very special person. I guess this bread
reflects that




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Re: [MBZ] Green crack wagon

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

These are somewhat rare machines in the United States, as they were in 
competition at the time with the launch of the minivan and, 
unfortunately, lost that battle. Mercedes decided to remove them from 
the U.S. market due to slow sales, but continued to build and ship them 
throughout the rest of the world. Now, in retrospect, we realize the 
loss of picking the minivan over this.


--FT


On 10/18/17 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

1983 Mercedes 300TD-T Turbo Diesel Wagon

https://enid.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-300td-turbo/6348068344.html


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Tars Wuz: Polishing Glass

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

HF Tools are weird. I bought one of their $15 4 1/2" angle grinders last week 
to have at camp. Its first job was to sharpen the blades on the bush hog. Its 
nearly as good as my Makita, other than the switch is cheezy its a very good 
grinder.HF sells really good grinding/cutting wheels too, surprisingly good 
considering its HF...
-Curt
 

On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 8:58:00 AM EDT, MG via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I had one of those from HF. It didn't even get a lug nut off of 
my daughter's car before it broke. Long cheater bar worked.

MG

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Thats a good idea, they make those torque multiplying things too, one of 
> those should work too.
> 
> -Curt
>  
> 
>    On Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 4:00:06 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> wrote:  
>  
>  Factory specs for torque on the lugnuts on my truck is 150#.
> I have started to carry a socket and a long breaker bar as I doubt I 
> could get a wheel off using the wrench that came with the truck.
> RB
> 
> On 18/10/2017 1:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> I've found that the use of torque wrenches is over blown. If you rattlegun 
>> the lugnut down to 150#, the torque wrench will click over at 80# no problem.
>> I once had to take my car back to a tire retailer because I couldn't get the 
>> lugs off no matter what.
>>
>> Which reminds me, at camp last week I sharpened the blades on the bush hog. 
>> This is a 6 foot brush mower. The blades are held on by 1 1/8" carriage 
>> bolts. To get them off I use my 3/4" ratchet with a 5 foot cheater bar... 
>> Takes a lot of force...
>> -Curt
>>  
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

U will get really tight

--FT


On 10/18/17 6:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Surely on this plan I will loose weight.



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Re: [MBZ] Tars Wuz: Polishing Glass

[MG via Mercedes]

I had one of those from HF. It didn't even get a lug nut off of 
my daughter's car before it broke. Long cheater bar worked.


MG

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Thats a good idea, they make those torque multiplying things too, one of those 
should work too.

-Curt
 

On Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 4:00:06 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 Factory specs for torque on the lugnuts on my truck is 150#.
I have started to carry a socket and a long breaker bar as I doubt I 
could get a wheel off using the wrench that came with the truck.

RB

On 18/10/2017 1:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I've found that the use of torque wrenches is over blown. If you rattlegun the 
lugnut down to 150#, the torque wrench will click over at 80# no problem.
I once had to take my car back to a tire retailer because I couldn't get the 
lugs off no matter what.

Which reminds me, at camp last week I sharpened the blades on the bush hog. This is a 6 
foot brush mower. The blades are held on by 1 1/8" carriage bolts. To get them off I 
use my 3/4" ratchet with a 5 foot cheater bar... Takes a lot of force...
-Curt
  




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Re: [MBZ] OT bread

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks, sounds like an interesting path of study.  I'm going to add her
works to my list of books that maybe I'll have time to read in retirement...

https://healthyhildegard.com/about-healthy-hildegard/


-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://healthyhildegard.com/spelt-flour-bread-recipe/
>
> Hildegard vin Bingen was a very special person. I guess this bread
> reflects that
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Green crack wagon

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I don’t think it gets 40 mpg either does it?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2017, at 3:27 AM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:

>> Kaleb wrote:
> 
>> 1983 Mercedes 300TD-T Turbo Diesel Wagon
>> 
>> https://enid.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-300td-turbo/6348068344.html
> 
> Wow.  The fellow thinks he knows S123 cars - but he doesn't.
> 
>  "...they were in competition at the time with the launch of the
>   minivan and, unfortunately, lost that battle."
> 
> The first minivan was introduced by Chrysler in 1984, and the S123
> production ceased in 1985.  Not exactly "competition"
> 
>   "The self leveling suspension system has been removed ... so this
>one will no longer be plagued with the leaking system issue.
>Often owners would come out to find their car sitting on the
>rear bumper one morning and it wouldn't go back up."
> 
> *sigh* The SLS is a _good_ system.  Even with a total hydraulic
> failure, the car does not "sit on the rear bumper".  What he is
> trying to promote as a major feature I consider to be a huge
> detriment.
> 
>   "... I had to have this car shipped to Oklahoma from Seattle, WA
>because they are that difficult to find in good condition.
> 
> Oops.  If he thinks this car is in good condition...
> 
> And the price - that is a BAT crazy price!  The air conditioner
> doesn't even blow ICE COLD.
> 
>   " I would easily classify this car as average to good."
> 
> BZZZT!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

So you're a carboterian, Roger? My wife is a practicing member, too.  Can't 
pass a loaf of bread without taking a bite

-D

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 10:23 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, I guess at this point the only question that remains is, "which 
> Mercedes model/year contains the most carbs and which the fewest?" I always 
> thought the SLs looked a little fruity while the Unimogs and full size sedans 
> must contain high amounts of sugars and carbs. Knowing the facts about the 
> different models will let you match yourself with the car you drive. It's 
> nice to know a lot of you are trying to stay healthy. Myself...breads are the 
> weight problem. I try to stay away, but it's difficult. 
> Best Wishes, 
> Roger 
> Roger Hale 
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
> Monroe, Ga. 
> 770-267-0850 
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Re: [MBZ] Green crack wagon

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Kaleb wrote:

> 1983 Mercedes 300TD-T Turbo Diesel Wagon
> 
> https://enid.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-300td-turbo/6348068344.html

Wow.  The fellow thinks he knows S123 cars - but he doesn't.

  "...they were in competition at the time with the launch of the
   minivan and, unfortunately, lost that battle."

The first minivan was introduced by Chrysler in 1984, and the S123
production ceased in 1985.  Not exactly "competition"

   "The self leveling suspension system has been removed ... so this
one will no longer be plagued with the leaking system issue.
Often owners would come out to find their car sitting on the
rear bumper one morning and it wouldn't go back up."

*sigh* The SLS is a _good_ system.  Even with a total hydraulic
failure, the car does not "sit on the rear bumper".  What he is
trying to promote as a major feature I consider to be a huge
detriment.

   "... I had to have this car shipped to Oklahoma from Seattle, WA
because they are that difficult to find in good condition.

Oops.  If he thinks this car is in good condition...

And the price - that is a BAT crazy price!  The air conditioner
doesn't even blow ICE COLD.

   " I would easily classify this car as average to good."

BZZZT!

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