RE: understanding tftp

2003-03-25 Thread John-Paul Delaney
Bravo Christopher that did it!

A big thanks...
/j-p.





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Hi John Paul

I see your error now -- you have placed a -l argument to the server:

-lRun the server in standalone (listen) mode, rather than run
from
inetd.   In  listen  mode,  the -t option is ignored, and
the -a
option can be used to specify a specific local address  or
port
to listen to.

remove the -l argument and  try again!

Cheers

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Thanks Gene... I completely mis-interpreted that output :( .  This is the
contents of the /etc/xinetd.d/tftp file:


disable = no
socket_type = dgram
protocol= udp
wait= yes
user= root
server  = /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
server_args = -s -c -l /tftpboot
per_source  = 11
cps = 100 2


How then, is the tftp server started?

thanks
/j-p.







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John-Paul Delaney wrote:
 tftpd seems to be running ok:
 root 20212  0.0  0.3  3544  632 tty1 S07:50   0:00 grep
tftpd

if you did ps auxw | grep tftpd like above, that's all your
going to see.  your tftpd is not up and running.

run chkconfig --list tftpd
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Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed

2003-03-25 Thread Bill Anderson
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 17:41, Ed Wilts wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 05:33:07PM -0500, Joe Polk wrote:
  While I would agree with what most have been saying, namely that RH can
  do whatever they damn well pleases, I don't necessarily like the trend.
  Caldera has consistently alienated the Linux community starting with
  tactics much like this. I used Caldera back in the day and loved it. But
  they didn't seem interested in the end user, unless you were an end user
  at a big company.  I'm not saying this is the direction that RH is
  going, but they have taken some steps down that road. Let's hope they
  can see where at leads WITHOUT having to tread the entire length. 
  Again, they can do what they please but that doesn't mean there aren't
  consequences. The consequences here could very well be a disgruntled
  user base that simply goes elsewhere. While they won't hurt the existing
  base of corporate users right now, it will keep people from suggesting
  RH in the future which ultimately will hurt them.  
 
 Wow.  Red Hat bumped the version number from the expected 8.1 to 9 and
 now you're saying people will stop suggesting Red Hat?  A disgruntled
 user base that simply goes elsewhere?  A little dramatic don't you
 think?

Given the number of people who avoid X.0 releases, waiting instead for
X.[1,2,3] releases, I would not be suprised to see a slower adoption
rate. Some maye even see the 8.0 - 9.0 as a rush deal, and as a
result be more likely to avoid 9.0. If you avoided 8.0 due to it being a
.0 release, you are likely, in the general case, to avoid 9.0 for the
same reason.

If memory serves, there are people on this very list that acknowledge
they tend away from X.0 releaes. Many suggest staying away from X.0
releases as well. I would think it more dramatic for these people to
suddenly be pro-9.0.

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Re: Access to the code

2003-03-25 Thread Jon Haugsand
* Monte Milanuk
 The source code for the kernel should be either installed (check
 /usr/src/linux) or available as an additional (large) package that you can
 install from your install media.  IIRC, it goes by something like
 kernel-source-versionarchitecture.rpm, i.e.
 kernel-source-2.4.17-i686.rpm.  It's been a while since I've dinked w/ this
 specifically, so hopefully it's somewhat close.  This version of the kernel
 is the one that RedHat uses, which may be slightly different than the plain
 'vanilla' one you would find at www.kernel.org, which is where the main hub
 of Linux kernel development resides.
 

The kernel RPMs issues are a little confusing, I think.  Because the
ordinary kernel RPM that follows most Linux distributions is in fact
the kernel source code, and not only a binary kernel code.  This is so
because it is customary for many Linux users to recompile the kernel
(or compile some modules) in order to fine tune the kernel code for
the specific hardware.

The kernel source RPM is something else, and very few people play
around with the kernel source RPM.  In fact, I cannot think of
anything you can use the kernel source RPM except in order to make a
new kernel RPM be it kernel source RPM or ordinary kernel RPM.

So do not use the kernel source RPM.

(What I would like is a howto for using other source RPM.  I get
confused by all the files included.)

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Re: Multiple identical NFS mounts under RH8

2003-03-25 Thread Bill Anderson
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 18:06, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
 Michael Mansour wrote:
 
 I think I've found a bug in RH8's NFS.
 
 On the RH8 client, I can mount the filesystem many
 times as shown (df -k output):
   
 
 The same thing happens under RH7.3 - all of my machines are 7.3 and 
 I can replicate the same thing you just did.

If I am not mistaken, this is a change the Kernel made in 2.4.

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Re: beta install change not good?

2003-03-25 Thread Bill Anderson
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 19:50, Jack Bowling wrote:
 ** Reply to message from Bill Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 24 Mar 2003 
 19:27:20 -0700
 
 snip
  That said, RH is already beginning to differentiate between Enterprise
  and non-enterprise. Since the personal is the base for sales (as in:
  the smallest one), that would be a good start, IMO. Personally, I
  install much more like a cross between server/workstation as personal,
  but that's me. snip
 
 And this would be a mistaken assumption. They plan on making their money on the 
 Enterprise version, not the desktop version.
 

How is what you said different? I said perosna was the base, the
smallest one. You said they make their money elsewhere. I do not see the
two as mutually exclusive. Indeed, it was not an assumption.

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Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed

2003-03-25 Thread Jim Wilferling
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:29:48 +1100
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Right On to that, Stephen!
!-
 On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 07:52, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 
this whole thing was really poorly done.
  
  rday
 
 Yet another reason why my business, and myself are being pushed away by
 the whole new direction that RedHat has gone in. Sadly, after nearly
 ten years of sticking to RedHat, I'm going to have to divert my
 interests to another distribution that isn't going to follow in the
 footsteps of the larger looming monsters such as Microsoft and IBM.
 Bouncing versions like this, especially after pushing the version 8.1
 idea for so long, is more than poorly done - it's as though the
 principle behind the versioning scheme has been thrown out of the window
 altogether without thinking of the long term effects on the people that
 have come to depend on them - and in thinking that users/sellers of
 systems with 7.2/7.3 versions are going to be literally out on the
 streets with this version change, they're making for some really bad
 business karma.
 
 I fear that RedHat, IF this move goes through, which I'm sure it is now,
 is going to cause quite a ripple throughout the overall RedHat
 community; and if the entire ploy is aimed at Big Business and
 commercial services, they're certainly going to find out that some folks
 are going to opt for a different distribution instead of fighting the
 version is now outdated trap.
 
 IMHO this is - but I'm not going to chuck more money down the drain for
 a distro I've started to not like or trust. And it really sucks that
 after all these years, I'm starting to not trust RedHat.
 
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Re: RHCE Exam, doing it now or wait.

2003-03-25 Thread Bill Anderson
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 23:51, Peter van der Does wrote:
 OK,
  
 So here I am, a RHCE 8 exam coming up next week and the weekend after
 that RHCE 9 is in the stores.
 Should I do it or wait for the RHCE 9 Exam.

First, upgrade your email client to not send HTML. :^)
Then, I'd wait for RH9 exams.

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Re: RHCE Exam, doing it now or wait.

2003-03-25 Thread Josef Oduwo

Wait.

Original Message Follows 
From: "Peter van der Does" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RHCE Exam, doing it now or wait. 
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:51:23 +0100 

OK, 

So here I am, a RHCE 8 exam coming up next week and the weekend after that RHCE 9 is in the stores. 
Should I do it or wait for the RHCE 9 Exam. 

Darn upgrades. 

Peter 
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Re: 38 GB partitioning advice

2003-03-25 Thread Thierry ITTY
I'd set up reasonnable system partitions (depending on what you'll install)
such as
50/100 MB for /boot
2/4GB for /
swap (twice ram)
then use LVM for the rest. with LVM you'll be able to increase/decrease
partitions size seamlessly




A 13:00 24/03/2003 -0500, vous avez écrit :
All,

I'm setting up a RH8 server (FTP) onto mirrored 40 GB drives (38162
usable...doing the RAID as part of the OS install) and need some
partitioning suggestions for the installation.  What partitions and sizes
should I use (and why for those who feel like being extra
informative...thanks in advance).

Regards and thanks,

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Re: beta install change not good?

2003-03-25 Thread Jack Bowling
** Reply to message from Bill Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 25 Mar 2003 
01:13:40 -0700

 On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 19:50, Jack Bowling wrote:
  ** Reply to message from Bill Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 24 Mar 2003 
  19:27:20 -0700
  
  snip
   That said, RH is already beginning to differentiate between Enterprise
   and non-enterprise. Since the personal is the base for sales (as in:
   the smallest one), that would be a good start, IMO. Personally, I
   install much more like a cross between server/workstation as personal,
   but that's me. snip
  
  And this would be a mistaken assumption. They plan on making their money on the 
  Enterprise version, not the desktop version.
  
 
 How is what you said different? I said perosna was the base, the
 smallest one. You said they make their money elsewhere. I do not see the
 two as mutually exclusive. Indeed, it was not an assumption.

Sorry, Bill, I thought you meant base as in base for their money-making proposition, 
not base as in core set.

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RHCE Exam, doing it now or wait. (Excuse for the HTML sendingearlier)

2003-03-25 Thread Peter van der Does
OK,
 
So here I am, a RHCE 8 exam coming up next week and the weekend after that RHCE 9 is 
in the stores.
Should I do it or wait for the RHCE 9 Exam.
 
Darn upgrades and darn HTML settings
 
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Re: beta install change not good?

2003-03-25 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 05:28:53PM -0700, Bill Anderson wrote:

 Maybe, but I think it is just amatter of not planning on it. The
 minimum install is ~450MB. Surely that can be fit on one CD? :^) SuSE

As Matthew pointed, there are several kernels and several glibc shipped
with the distribution. Add the installation routine, documentation and
images and I seriously doubt you're gonna fit it all on 700 (650?) Mb.

If the It fits on one CD requirement is fundamental, I would
recommend checking out ArkLinux.
URL:http://www.arklinux.com/

  You wouldn't happen to be an X-Files fan, would you? :-)
 
 Not too much.  A bit yes, but it got real old with all the evidence
 conveniently disappearing at the end of every damned episode. :(

ROTFL.

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RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Jim Wilferling
   Alright, so I'm annoyed. Just learning linux, and I've gone through 7.2, 8.0, and 
was anticipating 8.1. so now there's 9.0, so whatI've tried to install 8.1 beta 
rpms, and there were worse problems than there were with 8.0.
So we copeI'm not about to switch distros so quickly, just cause of some 
version hullaboo. But I want the new release, If it contains gnome 2.2. Heres the rub. 
When they say binary incompatable, will my /home dir, which is its own partition, mess 
up a new9.0 istall? should I delete all my /home/Jim/.* files? And does this binary 
incompatability mean that I wont ever be able to just upgrade rpms on the fly? If not, 
is there a way to mount a disc image without it being on a disc? (I dont have a 
burner.)
Basically, I'm game, But does it brown the food?

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Re: [Fwd: Red Hat Linux 9 | Get the latest Linux early]

2003-03-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 08:37:41AM +0800, Edward Dekkers wrote:
 Other users - seriously - let's not debate over the number hey? Who cares
 what it's called as long as it works?

But that's the point, from my view. I *always* skipped the x.0's (in
fact, I skipped the x.1's as well) and reading about them on redhat-list
usually comfirmed that decision. Up until now, the x.0 was followed up
with *very* stable, compatible versions as point release - most of the
time that were the x.2's, with the exception of 7.x - 7.3. 4.2, 5.2,
6.2 and 7.3 were very good, the lot of them. That's why I'm waiting
for a stable 8.x, not for another x.0 release, which again has new
major problems to be shaken out.

Cheerio,

Thomas
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Re: porting from 32 bit to 64 bit linux

2003-03-25 Thread Edward Dekkers
 I want to port linux(redhat linux 8.0) driver from 32 bit to 64 bit
 Intel architecture.
 Can anyone tell me what change has to be done in driver code to support
 64 bit architecture... or where can I find relevant information.
 Will the same change work for 32 bit architecture also.

 Any help will be highly appreciated.

 Thanks in advance.
 Regards,
 Prasanta

Prasanta, asking 3 times is not going to get you an answer any faster. If
you haven't received a response it is probably because we don't know.

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fluxbox utf-8 slow

2003-03-25 Thread Robert Jameson








Fluxbox loads very slowly when started with 



export LC=UTF-8 

export LC_ALL=UTF-8 



or whatever redhat default installs with, so when I do 



export LC=C

export LC_ALL=CLL=C



it loads instantly, before there was like a 5 min wait, how
can I change it so 



export LC=C

export LC_ALL=CLL=C



is default for all users, ie: I dont want UTF-8!!












Re: Red Hat Linux 9 - Obsoleting RHCE's a an unprecidented pace....

2003-03-25 Thread Justin . Skists
Considering that I'm still having difficulties running my driver correctly
under Redhat 8.0 (any updated kernel, as opposed to 7.3, or the 2.4.18
kernel in kernel.org), I would call it oddball.

 --__--__--
 
 Message: 12
 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:07:25 -0800 (PST)
 From: Michael Mansour [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux 9 - Obsoleting RHCE's a an unprecidented
 pace
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  8.0 appears to be an odd ball much like Windows ME
  was for Microsoft.   But,
  I'm sure RH has a very good reason for this - they
  seem to know what they
  are doing when controversial things like this
  comes about.
  
  -Eric Wood
 
 I'm using 8.0 on 3 production systems at the moment,
 from servicing and supporting RAS, Radius and dialup
 links of varying sorts, to proxy squid caching, to
 firewalling, to handling of virtual email domains and
 system monitoring of various services and servers.
 
 I've found it to be strong and robust, I wouldn't put
 it down to oddball at all.
 
 Michael.
 
 
 



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Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Willem van der Walt[EMAIL PROTECTED]

is there a way to mount a disc image without it being on a disc? (
I dont have a burner.)
mount -tiso9660 disk.iso /mnt/cdrom -o loop

 
 



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RE: Red Hat Linux 9 | Get the latest Linux early (fwd)

2003-03-25 Thread Roger
Red Hat has been using this company for quite some time in the mailout of
their 'Under the Brim' newsletter which you can subscribe on their front
page.



On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

 if this is in fact legit, i'm more than a little stunned.  who at
 red hat decided to provide contact information to a third-party
 mass-mailing company?  what effect does this have on privacy
 issues?

 i would *really* like to know how my association with red hat
 led to my contact info being given to a bulk mailing organization.




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RE: [Fwd: Red Hat Linux 9 | Get the latest Linux early]

2003-03-25 Thread Roger
Some people may argue they are worthless to start off with.


On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Billy wrote:

 Its not the version number that people care about...the RHCE cert is based
 on version numbers. So the big jump in version numbers makes the cert
 worthless a lot faster!





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Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed

2003-03-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 01:09:02AM -0700, Bill Anderson wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 17:41, Ed Wilts wrote:
[...]
  Wow.  Red Hat bumped the version number from the expected 8.1 to 9 and
  now you're saying people will stop suggesting Red Hat?  A disgruntled
  user base that simply goes elsewhere?  A little dramatic don't you
  think?
 
 Given the number of people who avoid X.0 releases, waiting instead for
 X.[1,2,3] releases, I would not be suprised to see a slower adoption
 rate. Some maye even see the 8.0 - 9.0 as a rush deal, and as a
 result be more likely to avoid 9.0. If you avoided 8.0 due to it being a
 .0 release, you are likely, in the general case, to avoid 9.0 for the
 same reason.

Amen. I for one was waiting for 8.1, maybe even 8.2, as the x.2
releases have proven to be excellent releases (exception: 7.2 - 7.3).
The way I see it now, I'll probably consider switching distros rather
than going 7.3 - 9.0. That would still present me with new bugs and
challenges, but maybe bring me back to a distro with a more suitable
development direction. I've been using RHL since 4.1 and I've been
happy with it, but recently the inclination to switch slowly increases.
At least, I'll start gathering information about alternatives.


 If memory serves, there are people on this very list that acknowledge
 they tend away from X.0 releaes. Many suggest staying away from X.0
 releases as well. I would think it more dramatic for these people to
 suddenly be pro-9.0.

Is the second 'x.0' supposed to be a 'x.1'? Would make more sense that
way... ;-) But you're absolutely right: For the folks you describe
(and which I'm part of), 9.0 would have to offer some *very* juicy
bits to even think about switching.

Cheerio,

Thomas
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Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Michael A. Peters
Not very fancy - but it works (attached shell script).
At some point I plan to add an option to specify the mount point if
/mnt/iso doesn't exist - but simple as it is, I never got around to it
;)

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 01:39, Willem van der Walt wrote:
 is there a way to mount a disc image without it being on a disc? (
 I dont have a burner.)
 mount -tiso9660 disk.iso /mnt/cdrom -o loop
 
  
 
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#!/bin/bash

mnt=/mnt/iso

if [ ! -d $mnt ]; then
	echo $mnt does not exist
	exit 1
fi

if [ `mount |grep -c /mnt/iso` -gt 0 ]; then
	echo An ISO image is already mounted on $mnt
	echo Please choose a different mountpoint
	exit 1
fi
if [ `whoami` = root ]; then
	mount -o loop -t iso9660 $1 $mnt
	if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
		echo mount failed
		exit 1
	fi
else
	su root --command=mount -o loop -t iso9660 $1 $mnt
	if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
		echo mount failed
		exit 1
	fi
fi


redhat-release and version

2003-03-25 Thread Zhi Cheng Wang
hi

rpm -q redhat-release and cat /proc/version usually give different version 
numbers, what does each mean?

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RE: understanding tftp

2003-03-25 Thread christopher cuse
Hi John Paul,

Glad that it finally worked out -- but remember to isolate access to a
writable tftp server as it can lead to very ugly security issues.

I was a bit short on message concerning xinetd the other day -- I suppose
that is somewhat synonymous to kernel modules, that is, that kernel modules
are loaded and unloaded depending on whether they are needed.

xinetd's approach to services is similar -- services are launched
dynamically when they are requested. It is possible for your to configure
tftpd, pop and other services to be loaded continuously in memory, ready to
service eventual requests. from a resource standpoint, this may not be
desirable, particularly if the service is used irregularly. so larger
services (sendmail, apache, named, etc.) are loaded and forked into the
background ready handle requests, and xinetd stands ready to start and stop
smaller services that are used irregularly.

further, xinetd services are typically compiled using tcp wrappers -- an
additional method of securing services from unauthorized access. for
instance, if your tftp server is going to be used uniquely to backup/restore
cisco ios and router configs, than you can secure the service to allow only
access from your router(s). For good explanation, see the Chapter 8 in the
Red Hat 8.0 Reference Guide.

Cheers

Christopher CUSE
RHCE/CCNA




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Bravo Christopher that did it!

A big thanks...
/j-p.





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Hi John Paul

I see your error now -- you have placed a -l argument to the server:

-lRun the server in standalone (listen) mode, rather than run
from
inetd.   In  listen  mode,  the -t option is ignored, and
the -a
option can be used to specify a specific local address  or
port
to listen to.

remove the -l argument and  try again!

Cheers

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Thanks Gene... I completely mis-interpreted that output :( .  This is the
contents of the /etc/xinetd.d/tftp file:


disable = no
socket_type = dgram
protocol= udp
wait= yes
user= root
server  = /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
server_args = -s -c -l /tftpboot
per_source  = 11
cps = 100 2


How then, is the tftp server started?

thanks
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John-Paul Delaney wrote:
 tftpd seems to be running ok:
 root 20212  0.0  0.3  3544  632 tty1 S07:50   0:00 grep
tftpd

if you did ps auxw | grep tftpd like above, that's all your
going to see.  your tftpd is not up and running.

run chkconfig --list tftpd
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Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Michael A. Peters
The biggest problem you might run into is some config files in your home
directory that have changed spec, but that has only happened to me once
- I think when going from a pre 1 version of gnome to a much newer one.

If that happens - just delete the config file.

What you want to do - copy these files to a floppy:
/etc/shadow
/etc/group
/etc/passwd

Any data not in your home directory that you want to save, back them up
too. Such as /etc/httpd/httpd.conf if you use Apache and have customized
it. You might want to save your ssl key too, but I never bother to on a
home machine.

When you install the new distro, choose your current /home partition
with a mount point of /home but DO NOT choose to format it.

Let the install go, don't create a new user - just the root user is
enough.

Boot into single the root account, mount the floppy, and run:

cat /mnt/floppy/shadow  /etc/shadow
cat /mnt/floppy/group  /etc/group
cat /mnt/floppy/passwd  /etc/passwd

reboot - and you should be able to log into any of your user accounts
just fine.

If you don't have a burner - I *really* recommend you have a friend burn
the iso's. Really.

I don't know where you live, but in California (most of the US I
suspect) you can get an IDE cdrw drive for about $50.00 now new. They
really have dropped in price. But if you can't afford it, really - get a
friend to burn it. You probably want to burn backups of your home
directory anyway just in case something goes wrong.

If I were you, though - I'd wait to install RH9 until about a month
after it has been released. That way you can see pitfalls to avoid - and
show stopper bugs have a better chance of having patches easily
available.

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 00:36, Jim Wilferling wrote:
Alright, so I'm annoyed. Just learning linux, and I've gone through 7.2,
 8.0, and was anticipating 8.1. so now there's 9.0, so whatI've tried to install 
 8.1 beta rpms, and there were worse problems than there were with 8.0.
 So we copeI'm not about to switch distros so quickly, just cause of some 
 version hullaboo. But I want the new release, If it contains gnome 2.2. Heres the 
 rub. When they say binary incompatable, will my /home dir, which is its own 
 partition, mess up a new9.0 istall? should I delete all my /home/Jim/.* files? And 
 does this binary incompatability mean that I wont ever be able to just upgrade rpms 
 on the fly? If not, is there a way to mount a disc image without it being on a disc? 
 (I dont have a burner.)
 Basically, I'm game, But does it brown the food?
 
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Static Routes

2003-03-25 Thread Ian Dobson
where is the correct place to add static routes in Redhat?
I know I can add it to rc.local, but is there a RedHat place?




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LVM or not

2003-03-25 Thread Ian Dobson
what is the benefit of LVM on say an 80 GB drive rather than just giving
78GB to /  ?



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Re: Remove all existing partitions

2003-03-25 Thread Douglas Alan
Edward Dekkers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I said that I cannot imagine a case where I would want all partitions
  on all disk drives to be removed during an OS install.  Despite your
  claims, I still would never want all partitions on all disk drives to be
  removed during an OS install.  Not for the two cases that you provided
  (#2 of which is true for me all of the time, by the way), nor for any
  case.

 But I will tell you a case where I love the fact Kickstart will kill
 everything.

 Unattended installs - exactly what I think Kickstart was designed for.

There's no reason for Kickstart to zero the partition tables on disk
drives uninvolved in the OS installation, whether the install is
attended or not.

 It can't be very unattended if I have to stand there and do the old
 'Are you sure', 'Are you really sure', 'Last chance now', dialogs.

Whoever said it should do this?  It should just leave disk drives
uninvolved in the OS installation alone.

 You set up
 Kickstart to a system of your liking, then take it, plonk it in a PC you
 want to install, press the button, and make a coffee.

Yes, great.  Exactly what I want.  Zeroing partitions tables on disk
drives uninvolved in the OS installation, however, is never what I want.

 When you come back, the system should be ready to go as you wanted
 it. Period.

Exactly.  Zeroed partition tables on partitions uninvolved in the OS
installation is never what I want, however.  Period.

The installer needs to be able to repartition disk drives upon which the
OS is going to be installed, and upon which any other filesystems are
going to be placed, but none of this implies that it has any reason
whatsoever to remove partitions on disk drives that the installer has
been told not to install any filesystems onto.  Zeroing the partition
table on disk drives upon which no filesystems are being placed is
always wrong.  What function could it possibly serve?

And even in the unlikely situation that you can come up with some
degenerate scenario in which it would be advantageous to delete all
partitions an all disk drives, regardless of whether any filesystems are
being placed on those disk drives, you could easily implement this
behavior via Kickstart's pre- or post-installation script hooks.

 I build quite a few systems a week, and I'm very happy with the
 automated installation stuff that's available. It means I can set up
 about 4 PCs at a time instead of one at a time.

I have never suggested anything that would prevent this.

 If the customer want's data off it, I back it up to network, then
 restore when finished.

That doesn't sound very unattended to me.  In fact, it sounds like a lot
of work to preserve data that could very well have been easily left
alone by the installer, assuming the data was on disk drives that
weren't involved in the OS installation.

 Same thing everybody should do. Never rely on data to be there after a
 major install. No backups is a bad practice to get in to.

Sure is.  That doesn't mean the installer should remove data that it
doesn't have to.  For one thing, this then leaves you with only your
backup copy.  Which then means that there is a period of time where you
only have one copy, which leaves you vulnerable to loss in the case your
backup fails, unless you have redundant backups.  No matter how you
slice it, there is no good reason for an OS installer to remove data on
disk drives uninvolved in the OS installation.

 Hey, it MAY not suit every purpose, and obviously not in your case, but
 please don't get into a 'right' or 'wrong' flame war.

I'm a software engineer, and thus it is my duty to point out when
software is not engineered properly.  Despite what you seem to imply,
there *is* often right and wrong ways to do something.  If this wasn't
the case, software engineering would be a meaningless term, and
schools teaching good principles of software engineering would be
teaching nonsense.

 There is no right or wrong here, but mainly opinion.

So, is there also no right or wrong about your claim that there is no
right or wrong here?

 Kickstart was written by people who want nothing for their efforts.

Last I heard, Kickstart was written by Red Hat, which last I heard, is a
publicly-traded for-profit corporation.

 If you want it to behave differently, sign up to their project and
 make a difference.

So, unless I am willing to rewrite all the software in the world, I
should never submit bug reports for any of it?

 I really think it's wrong a tradesman blaming tools for a botched
 job. Don't you?

I think that it's wrong for tool-makers to refuse to acknowledge that
their might be room for improvement in the tools they make.  I say this
as a took-maker myself, who takes pride in well-made, and well-designed
tools.

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Re: upgrading your system... my experience

2003-03-25 Thread Michael A. Peters
I had RH8 installed on a Asus VIA board w/ a 900 MHz Athlon.
CPU died.
I built a new box using an Asus A7N8X Deluxe and XP 2700+.

No more was I using the SoundBlaster Live, the VooDoo3, USB was now OHCI
opposed to UHCI, I didn't move the old NIC's over. Only thing that was
the same was the hard drive, cdrw drive, and PCI modem (rarely used -
only when broadband is down and I _must_ connect)

Everything went perfectly - the nics on the new board were not supported
by the default kernel. It detected they were removed.

Once I built the new kernel (which supported the 3com nic) kudzo
migrated the old eth0 settings on over - couldn't have been easier.
Ditto for eth0 once I installed nvidia's evil ;) kernel tainting closed
source nvnet driver. ( btw - please sign my petition at
http://petitiononline.com/nforce2/petition.html )

Only thing I had to manually do is have the i810_audio drive load in
/etc/rc.local

Linux handles changing motherboard/cpu very well - especially with
kudzo.

You think an expensive commercial OS like Windows would be on par - but
apparently not ;)

-=-
I think it's more tricky when going from AMD to Intel (or vice versa) -
I think to do that, you'd need build a kernel that supports both before
changing. not positive though.

Also - you want to recompile mplayer after changing the cpu.

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 08:42, Tony Preston wrote:
 RH 6.2 was a totally different story, it recognized the new stuff, forgot about
 the old stuff and booted normally (even recognized the change in video cards!).
 I was absolutely amazed (especially after the Win 98 experience).
 
 I know this is like preaching to the choir, but I really was expecting a bit more
 than just rebooting to upgrade just about everything:)

 
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Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed

2003-03-25 Thread Roger
Red Hat Linux 8.x/9.x... is now considered by RH as a bleeding-edge
operating system for consumer use, mainly targeted towards home users,
small business and enthusiasts.

As a significant percentage of Red Hat's revenue is coming from Advanced
Server (Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS), they are trying to push companies into
buying this product.  One way to achieve this is to turn the general
releases of Red Hat Linux into a constantly changing test bed
for Advanced Server.  Features that have proven solid in the general
releases will be eventually migrated into the Enterprise Linux products.
As this will no doubt result in reduced stability in the general releases,
anyone wanting stablity and reliability will need to run Red Hat
Enterprise Linux.

I had a number of servers running 6.2/7.2/7.3, but as 7.3 won't be
supported after 31-Dec-03 I had to decide what version I was going to
run.  Like many people, I don't want phone/email support from Red Hat,
just the errata packages for security and bug fixes.  As the general
releases won't be supported for more than 12 months (unlike RH6.2 - 3
years), I was not too keen to upgrade my reliable 7.2/7.3 servers with 8.0
or 9.0 at the end of the year.

So I built my own version of Red Hat Advanced Server 2.1 from the SRPMS
and have a near automated process for building the errata RPMS from the
SRPMS.  I can install my custom built version of RHAS 2.1 on as many
servers as I like (quite legally - GPL) without needing to pay Red Hat a
huge amount of money in per server per year licenses.  With this, I now
get the benefit of 5+ years of errata for a stable Linux distribution.

I don't mind paying money for errata packages, such as if Red Hat decided
to support 7.3 for 2 more years, but I'm not going to pay $US1500 per
server, per year.

I do not need any of the advanced features in Red Hat Advanced Server, all
I am looking for is a reasonably priced release that is stable and
supported (errata) long term.  However, I object strongly to paying per
server licensing for software that is essentially GPL.

You might ask, why not run another distribution, eg Debian, Slackware...?

Well, may software vendors only support there products on Red Hat Linux
and most are now moving to support only Red Hat Enterprise Linux or SLES.
Server manufactuers are also moving to only supporting the Enterprise
Linux products of the main 4 Linux vendors with their hardware management
agents.

Anyone running one of the 'consumer' versions of Red Hat will soon be out
in the cold.



 I disagree, I think there are several valid reasons to be annoyed by Red
 Hat's latest move. Most of which have to do with running Red Hat in an
 enterprise environment.

 Why should third parties develop for an ever changing platform? Already
 it's hard enough to convince them that there is a large enough user
 base, now try and explain to them that there will be a major version
 change at seemingly random times.

 How on Earth does this look in the least bit professional? Was 8.0 the
 beta for 9.0? Six months for a major version number? This comes off as a
 poor management decision, it makes Red Hat appear unstable. Between
 their release of a bunch of enterprise distributions, the recent cut
 off of rhn and two major releases in six months, Red Hat looks desperate
 for sources of income. Big corporations won't base their infrastructure
 on a company that doesn't look like it's going to be around next year.

 Why would I want to support another distribution? I was only now
 starting to place 8.0 in non critical systems, now you expect me to
 support 7.X, 8.X, and 9.X. And don't give me the they have AS for that
 argument, show me the company that will pay for AS for a nameserver and
 I'll show you a company going out of business next week. Red Hat can
 leverage administrators familiarity with their product to sell the AS
 product line for mission critical systems such as Oracle Databases, but
 if Red Hat decides to shoot itself in the foot like Caldera did, don't
 think I won't switch distributions in a second.




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Re: LVM or not

2003-03-25 Thread Jon Haugsand
* Ian Dobson
 what is the benefit of LVM on say an 80 GB drive rather than just giving
 78GB to /  ?

1. Whenever you buy a new disk so you have 160 GB, you can easily
increase any file system.

2. Whenever you want to reinstall, you can scratch / and /usr, while
you keep the /home and /usr/local and /var.

3. In case of diskcrash you might still be able to save some of your
data.

4. Playing around with LVM is cooler...

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Re: Remove all existing partitions

2003-03-25 Thread Douglas Alan
Anthony E. Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Douglas Alan wrote:

  No it wouldn't.  It is never reasonable to destroy large amounts of
  data without being quite sure that that is what the user wants.

 If that were true, then 'rm -i' would be default behavior, and the
 '-f' option would not exist.

rm -i would never be the default in a good operating system because
endlessly nagging the user is completely the wrong approach to making
good resilient software.  On the other hand, no modern operating system
would be designed so that the standard file delete command permanently
deletes files without an opportunity to undo the delete.  We are stuck
with this in Unix for historical reasons.  Regarding -f, it should
definitely be a more verbose option.  The reason that it isn't, is again
historical.

 Clearly, there are situations when the user is expected to know what
 they're doing. I think that creating an automated Linux install config
 is one of those situations. You don't.

Please don't completely mischaracterize everything I have said.  I
haven't said anything like the the user shouldn't be expected to know
what he is doing.

The people who operate a nuclear power plant should know what they are
doing, right?  Does that mean that one wrong flicked switch should cause
the plant to instantly melt down?

 Kickstart is a non-interactive environment, isn't it? How is it
 supposed to interact with you to confirm your instructions?

It could start by not zeroing partitions on disk drives uninvolved in
the OS installation, since there is no reason for it to do that.

Other improvements might be for it to put up a splash screen at the very
beginning of the process, detailing exactly what the installer is going
to do, which disk drives it is going to muck with, and which partitions
it is going to destory, and then ask the user to type confirm or
somesuch.  But I'm happy to start with small improvements first, like
merely not zeroing partition tables on disk drives uninvolved in the OS
installation.

 I have never done this kind of automated installation *precisely*
 because I did not want the installation routine to make decisions
 for me.

  Now you are making no sense at all.  First of all, Kickstart does
  nothing that the interactive Red Hat installer doesn't do.  The
  exact same issue comes up in the interactive installer.  Are you
  saying that you don't use the Red Hat installer at all?

 No. I was talking about what I want. Not what I put with. I take
 actions to make the situation conform to my wants, limited by the
 amount of time/effort I'm willing to invest. In this case, I'm willing
 to invest the time/effort to run an interactive install so that I can
 hae more control over what's happening.

The Red Hat interactive installer gives you no more or no less control
over what's happening than the Kickstart installer.  Both present you
with almost exactly the same set of options.

  Furthermore, you say that you won't use Kickstart because it makes
  decsisons for you.  I stand here saying that it should't make decisions
  for you.  You disagree with me and say that it *should* make those
  decisions for you,

 I said no such thing. What I said was that it's action was reasonable,
 given the assumptions it works under.

Well, then, you are wrong on that assertion.  The behavior that I am
complaing about in the Red Hat installer -- that it zeroes the partition
tables of disk drives uninvolved in the installation -- is wrong
behavior.  It is indefensible and should be fixed.

 Even if your characterizations of my comments were correct, your
 characterizations assert an inconsistency where none exists. Here are
 the points you attribute to me:

1. I don't use kickstart because it makes decisions for you.

2. Kickstart should make decisions for you.

 Those two statements are not mutually exclusive. They make just as
 much sense as:

1. I don't buy cars with automatic transmission because they make
   shifting decisions for you.

2. Automatic transmissions are supposed to make shifting decisions for
   you.

You forgot to add your third claim:
 
 3. And because they make shifting decisions for you, don't whine
when you get on the Autobahn and the automatic transmission
decides to floor it for you until you're going 180 mph.

Just because an automatic transmission makes shifting decisions for you,
does not mean that those shifting decisions are beyond the scope of
engineering criticism.  In fact, they most surely are within such
scope.

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Re: RHCE Exam, doing it now or wait. (Excuse for the HTML sendingearlier)

2003-03-25 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Peter van der Does wrote:

 OK,
  So here I am, a RHCE 8 exam coming up next week and the weekend after
 that RHCE 9 is in the stores. Should I do it or wait for the RHCE 9
 Exam.

this close to the exam, do you even have the option of rescheduling?

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Re: upgrading your system... my experience

2003-03-25 Thread Johann Snyman
On Stardate : [-29]0032.22
-Tue25Mar03-1240

Tony Preston wrote:

 RH 6.2 was a totally different story, it recognized the new stuff, forgot about
 the old stuff and booted normally (even recognized the change in video cards!).
 I was absolutely amazed (especially after the Win 98 experience).
 
 I know this is like preaching to the choir, but I really was expecting a bit more
 than just rebooting to upgrade just about everything:)

This is good news, I just wanted to ask about this. I will be changing
most of the machine, except the HDDs. I don't know what machine I will
be getting yet, where an I have a look see which hardware is well
supported by Linux? We don't have a very wide choice around here, but
I would like to get the most supported of what is available.

Oh yes, I'm running RH8.0

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Re: Remove all existing partitions

2003-03-25 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 06:03:25AM -0500, Douglas Alan wrote:
 
 It could start by not zeroing partitions on disk drives uninvolved in
 the OS installation, since there is no reason for it to do that.

This is the part where I don't follow you.
If partitions have not been created, how is the kickstart program
supposed to know which drives are involved in the installation and
which ones are not?

 Other improvements might be for it to put up a splash screen at the very
 beginning of the process, detailing exactly what the installer is going
 to do, which disk drives it is going to muck with, and which partitions
 it is going to destory, and then ask the user to type confirm or
 somesuch.

This sounds a lot like the procedure you go through when you abstain
from telling kickstart to wipe out the partitions.

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Re: Oracle install problems?

2003-03-25 Thread fred smith
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 08:44:23AM +0100, Jon Haugsand wrote:
 * Dan Dobbs
  Make sure you have Java 1.1.8 installed. It's rather picky about the
  version. You should be able to download an RPM or tarball from Sun.
 
 Doesn't that follow with Oracle?

Every Oracle installation package I've seen (admittedly not a huge
number) contains its own JRE, doesn't expect or use any other pre-
installed Java. I suspect the OP has some setup/config problem instead.

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Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 02:12:39AM -0800, Michael A. Peters wrote:
 The biggest problem you might run into is some config files in your home

But these are not binaries and is true of almost any upgrade anyway...

 What you want to do - copy these files to a floppy:
 /etc/shadow
 /etc/group
 /etc/passwd

Why? The upgrade should handle this. I have these files successfully
upgraded since RH5.0 (every increment since then), and never had a
problem.
 
 If you don't have a burner - I *really* recommend you have a friend burn
 the iso's. Really.

I'd suggest just installing from the iso images in that case. Much
easier.
 
 On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 00:36, Jim Wilferling wrote:
 Alright, so I'm annoyed. Just learning linux, and I've gone
 through 7.2, 8.0, and was anticipating 8.1. so now there's 9.0,
 so whatI've tried to install 8.1 beta rpms, and there were
 worse problems than there were with 8.0. So we copeI'm not
 about to switch distros so quickly, just cause of some version
 hullaboo. But I want the new release, If it contains gnome 2.2.
 Heres the rub. When they say binary incompatable, will my /home
 dir, which is its own partition, mess up a new9.0 istall?
 should I delete all my /home/Jim/.* files? And does this binary
 incompatability mean that I wont ever be able to just upgrade
 rpms on the fly? If not, is there a way to mount a disc image
 without it being on a disc? (I dont have a burner.)

It mostly means that rpms build on a RH9 system will not likely run on
RH8 or RH7, etc. That's all. RPMs built on older systems should
probably still install on RH9 (due to backward compatibility of libs). 
It's not a big deal. When you went from RH7.x to RH8.0 you hit the
same hurdle. The world did not end then did it? 

  Basically, I'm game, But does it brown the food?

Just depends.

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Re: Help Lucent amr modem driver

2003-03-25 Thread gopalan harish
The chipset for the modem is scorpio chipset.Has
anyone found drivers for this chip set to work with
linux.

harish

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so what's the technology behind the jump to RH 9?

2003-03-25 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  can someone explain/point to a web page that discusses the
new technology behind the jump to RH 9?  that is, NPTL?  glibc?

  and perhaps how this affects current applications? what will
need to be recompiled and what won't?  and how soon matthias
will have a whack of new RPMs up on freshrpms? :-)

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RE: Static Routes

2003-03-25 Thread christopher cuse
Hi Ian,

check /etc/sysconfig/static-routes

cheers

Christopher CUSE
RHCE/CCNA

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where is the correct place to add static routes in Redhat?
I know I can add it to rc.local, but is there a RedHat place?




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RE: 38 GB partitioning advice

2003-03-25 Thread Douglas, Stuart
Thanks for the reply (all of you!).

I did read a tiny bit about LVM in the RH install/config documentation.  It seemed 
like very useful technology, but I stayed away from it for the moment given my 
embryonic understanding of the Linux environment.

My setup is strictly for an anonymous (private...by fixed IP list at the FW) FTP 
server that will take in HUGE (100-1000 MB) MPEG2 files which then get moved to our 
video production servers (the FTP basically serves as a temporary holding bin for 
inbound content from our clients).  Being stuck on the cheap, I'm using an old PII/400 
PC with 256 MB of RAM and 2 40 GB IDE drives connected to a HighPoint ATA controller 
card and setting up RAID1 during the Linux install.  I started the install yesterday, 
and after feeling my way through the manual DiskDruid part (something like 5-6 times!) 
I THINK I have the RAID done correctly (I'll find out this morning, I left it doing 
the drive checking part on all the partitions yesterday evening).  I went with 500 MB 
partitions for swap, / and /boot.  I went with 4 GB /var and /home partitions, and 
then put all remaining disk space into the /usr partition (where I'll point the FTP 
server).  I have no idea if the box will even end up booting!
 after I'm done...I guess I'll find out shortly.  Since this is something of a 
developmental/test box, I'd kinda like to investigate everyone's LVM suggestions, 
especially since I'm not even through the initial OS install yet.  I may just have to 
get out the company checkbook and get a hardware IDE RAID controller instead and start 
all over.

Sorry to ramble a bit hear, but if anyone has any feedback given the above, your 
advice or comments are always greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Stuart



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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 38 GB partitioning advice


I'd set up reasonnable system partitions (depending on what you'll install)
such as
50/100 MB for /boot
2/4GB for /
swap (twice ram)
then use LVM for the rest. with LVM you'll be able to increase/decrease
partitions size seamlessly




A 13:00 24/03/2003 -0500, vous avez écrit :
All,

I'm setting up a RH8 server (FTP) onto mirrored 40 GB drives (38162
usable...doing the RAID as part of the OS install) and need some
partitioning suggestions for the installation.  What partitions and sizes
should I use (and why for those who feel like being extra
informative...thanks in advance).

Regards and thanks,

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Re: so what's the technology behind the jump to RH 9?

2003-03-25 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 06:46:49AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 
   can someone explain/point to a web page that discusses the
 new technology behind the jump to RH 9?  that is, NPTL?  glibc?

I was given this link but haven't had time to do anything about it:
http://people.redhat.com/drepper/nptl-design.pdf

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picky observation about http://rawhide.redhat.com

2003-03-25 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  why doesn't the URL http://rawhide.redhat.com resolve directly
to a location containing the contents of rawhide?

  instead, you still have to traverse a fairly generic red hat
directory structure to finally get to

  http://rawhide.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/rawhide

  any reason why it's not more direct?

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RE: setting dial-in server

2003-03-25 Thread Mark Olliver
Hi

I'm looking to do console redirection via modem, from all the way from
boot to a fully running system, to allow for better remote management
control. (ie. to allow me to take the machine to single user mode from
home)

Thanks

Mark

On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 11:53, christopher cuse wrote:
 Hi Mark,
 
 Could you more fully explain what is it is that you would like to do -- I am
 not sure I understand what your looking for ...
 
 Cheers
 
 Christopher CUSE
 RHCE/CCNA
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 --nothing is too difficult once you completely understand it.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Olliver
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:11 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: setting dial-in server
 
 
 Hi
 
 I saw this post, and I am wondering, what would i do different to get
 full console redirection via modem, preferably from boot up. Again using
 redhat 8.
 
 Thanks
 
 Mark
 
 On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 10:10, christopher cuse wrote:
  Hi Jhun,
 
  Yes, Red Hat supports ppp very well, similar to that offered by Windows
 RAS,
  but with many more granular options.
 
  1) install mgetty and ppp from your linux distribition
 
  2) add the following entries in /etc/inittab (this assumes two modems - on
  ttyS0 (com1) and ttyS1 (com2)
 
  d1:345:respawn:/sbin/mgetty ttyS0  /dev/nul
  d2:345:respawn:/sbin/mgetty ttyS1  /dev/nul
 
  this will respawn mgetty if it dies.
 
  3) edit /etc/mgetty+sendfax/login.config -- this should be the only line
  concerning AutoPPP (remember it is case sensitive -- AutoPPP)
  /AutoPPP/ - dialin /usr/sbin/pppd file /etc/ppp/dialin-options
 
  this line tells mgetty to execute the ppp daemon with options cotained in
  /etc/ppp/dialin-options
 
  4) create /etc/ppp/dialin-options
  +chap
  asyncmap 0
  10.1.1.254:10.1.1.1
  ipcp-accept-remote
  #ipcp-accept-local
  ipparam dialin
  linkname dialin
  #kdebug 7
  #debug
  logfile /var/log/ppp.dialin
  ms-dns 172.16.3.9
  ms-wins 172.16.3.9
 
  these are my options, some are remarked out, and you'll need to decide
 which
  ones you want and change ip addresses accordingly. check out the man page
  for pppd, it has all the options listed with their various meanings.
 
  5) edit /etc/modules.conf and add the lines
  alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic
  alias char-major-108 ppp_generic
  alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async
  alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty
  alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
  alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
  alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate
 
  this should get the compression scheme right with the kernel screaming.
 
  6) edit /etc/ppp/chap-secrets to include the usernames and passwords of
  dialin users. note that chap is more secure than pap -- my configuration
  includes only support for chap (the chap+) in dialin options.
 
 
  Reboot and give it a try.
 
  Voila!
 
  Cheers
 
  Christopher CUSE
  RHCE/CCNA
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  --nothing is too difficult once you completely understand it.
 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jhun Bacala
  Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:05 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: setting dial-in server
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I'm planning of putting up a dial-in server in our office. My purpose for
  this is for me to be able to dial-up to that server and be
  connected to our server. Just like RAS. Anybody here that guide me on how
  to set it up? I was planning of using Redhat 8.0.
 
  TIA
 
  Jhun Bacala
 
 
 
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mkisofs 650Mb

2003-03-25 Thread zeek


Greetings,

I have a directory which has grown, and will continue to grow beyond 650Mb. I
need to back this up to cdrom and haven't found an option in mkisofs that will
limit iso images to 650Mb chunks. I've used cddump for backups, and it limits
the image size but I'm hoping to find something less cumbersome.

Any suggestions?

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gnome-panel loop

2003-03-25 Thread Haines Brown
I'm running RedHat 8.0.

I managed to break gnome-panel, perhaps specifically the window
switcher (pager). As a result when I startx, the panel crashes as it
is being loaded with applets, etc. When I dismiss the crash dialog,
the panel tries to load again and I'm caught in a gnome-panel crash
loop, forcing me to stop the X server. 

Oddly, both root and one user experience this problem, but not another
user. I tried simply to remove ~/.gnome*, but when those files were
regenerated, the problem persisted. For both reasons I believe the
problem is deeper.

My aim is to escape the loop either by recovering appropriate files
from a backup or by manually editing a configuration file. I would
rather uninstall and reinstall gnome-panel, for this leads me into a
dependency hell.  

Is the pager a separate RPM application that I can uninstall and
reinstall? Or is the pager built into gnome-panel?

If a separate application, what gnome-panel script calls the pager so
that I can run the panel without it?  

If the pager is built in to the gnome-panel, Where is gnome-panel
called so that I can startx without a panel?

Is there any source of information on gnome-panel that addresses such 
questions? 

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Re: gnome-panel loop

2003-03-25 Thread Ed . Greshko
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Haines Brown wrote:

 Oddly, both root and one user experience this problem, but not another
 user. I tried simply to remove ~/.gnome*, but when those files were
 regenerated, the problem persisted. For both reasons I believe the
 problem is deeper.

Have you tried copying ~/.gnome* from a working user to a non-working
user?


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RedHat 9.0

2003-03-25 Thread Steve Buehler
I don't know if I missed it here on the mailing list or not but has anybody 
got a link to a page that tells more about the new RedHat 9.0?  Basically, 
I would like to find out what the main difference is that would make them 
go to a new major release.  All I can find on their web site is How To Get 
Red Hat Linux 9 Early.  Which doesn't say what is new at all.  Doesn't 
give any information except on how to get it early.

Thanks
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Re: Binary compatibility statement between RH Linux 7.2/8.0 and Linux Advanced Server...

2003-03-25 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 11:12:54PM -0500, Greenberg, Michael wrote:
 We have customers requesting our products on RH Linux 7.2, RH Linux 8.0, and RH Linux
 Advanced Server. I am trying to determine if there is any binary
 compatibility statement between RH Linux 7.2/8.0 and RH Linux Advanced
 Server.
  
 Is it expected that applications built on either RH Linux 7.2 or 8.0
 will run on RH Linux Advanced Server, or is it necessary to build
 applications built on 7.2/8.0 when migrating to Advanced Server?

My best guess is that you'll have binary compatibilty for just about
everything between 7.2 and AS2.1.  You probably won't have it for 8.0
depending on what you're doing.

There are free downloads of 7.2 and 8.0 available, and there are very
low-cost developer versions of AS2.1 available.  If you're a serious
developer charging for your products, it probably wouldn't hurt to test
it on all of them.  For more details on ASDE (AS Developer Edition),
visit:
http://www.europe.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/developer/faq.php3

For each version, you need to determine the compilers and libraries
used, and then you should hopefully be able to make an informed decision
about binary compatibility.  In general, though, Red Hat changes the
major release number whenever binary compatibility changes, so in theory
you should release a product for 7.x, 8.x, and AS2.x.  All the
Enterprise Linux releases (AS, ES, and AW) should be binary compatible.

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Redhat 8 install problem

2003-03-25 Thread Jon Morgan
I am trying to install RedHat 8 on a Dell Inspiron 2500 laptop.  I can have it boot to 
text mode and it works fine.  When I launch startx it then hangs with the X mouse 
icon.  I have managed to trace it's way through the scripts to where it launched 
gnome-session in the Xclient script.  From there I'm lost.  I have messed with 
commenting out certain portions of the Xclient script just to confirm what is causing 
it and the only thing that changed is the mouse icon when it hangs.  Any ideas?  
Thanks,
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Re: Access to the code

2003-03-25 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 08:10:05AM +0200, Mohammed Awad wrote:
 I'm on my way to install redhat 8.0 for resarch purposes. My point is would
 I be able to get access to the source code of the kernel or even some parts
 of it (which ones?) , in order to modify the source ?
 If not, then where could I get the source code of the kernel, then?

You can get full source to not only the entire kernel, but also every
package that's part of the standard 8.0 release.  If you downloaded the
ISOs, you probably got 3 full of binaries, and then there would have
been 2 ISO of sources.  You can also get from Red Hat's FTP site or any
one of their mirrors (see http://www.redhat.com/mirrors.html).  When you
set up your 8.0 system, pay special attention to setting up up2date.
This will give you easy access to all the security updates for your
release, plus give you easy access to the sources.

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ssh2 keygen??

2003-03-25 Thread Søren Neigaard
I have a Tru64 Unix that I want to ssh to from a Redhat Linux, and the Tru64
only allows ssh2. And I also need it to work without passwords.

I have generated a RSA and a DSA key on the Redhat (with ssh-keygen -t rsa
and ssh-keygen -t dsa). I have copied the id_rsa.pub into
root/.ssh2/authorized_keys on the Tru64, I have copied the id_dsa.pub into
root/.ssh2/authorized_keys2 on the Tru64, and I have copied the id_dsa.pub
into root/.ssh2/hostkeys/key_22_MYIP.pub on the Tru64

None of this works, I still need to give the password each time... :(

Any ideas, what am I doing wrong here?

Med venlig hilsen/Best regards
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Re: Problems enabling DMA on /dev/cdrom with hdparm

2003-03-25 Thread Bret Hughes
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 22:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am running RedHat 8.0 on a Dell Dimension Desktop 8200 with a DVD-ROM drive as
 my /dev/hdc (/dev/cdrom) device. Whenever I try to run the command below on my
 cdrom, also /dev/hdc, I get the following...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] sbin]# ./hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom
 
 /dev/cdrom:
  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
  using_dma=  0 (off)
 
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amanda installation

2003-03-25 Thread Jianping Zhu
I have three redhat 7.3 boxes, b1 b2 b3, only b1 has tape drive, I want
install amanda for three machines backup system to tape.  I can install 
amanda-2.4.2p2-7.i386.rpm on b1, what should i install on b2, b3, in order
to do backup?
Thanks



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Re: porting from 32 bit to 64 bit linux

2003-03-25 Thread David Hollister
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 01:43, Edward Dekkers wrote:
  I want to port linux(redhat linux 8.0) driver from 32 bit to 64 bit
  Intel architecture.
  Can anyone tell me what change has to be done in driver code to support
  64 bit architecture... or where can I find relevant information.
  Will the same change work for 32 bit architecture also.
 
  Any help will be highly appreciated.
 
  Thanks in advance.
  Regards,
  Prasanta
 
 Prasanta, asking 3 times is not going to get you an answer any faster. If
 you haven't received a response it is probably because we don't know.

One could also try actually watching for an answer, which I posted
yesterday.  Try:

http://www.linuxia64.org/

Just in case Prasanta does happen to be listening, I can tell you from
my limited experience working with ia64 that even if the changes
necessary to support ia64 aren't backward compatible to ia32, the
changes are probably minor enough that a few #ifdefs should handle it.

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Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed

2003-03-25 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 01:09:02AM -0700, Bill Anderson wrote:
 Given the number of people who avoid X.0 releases, waiting instead for
 X.[1,2,3] releases, I would not be suprised to see a slower adoption
 rate. Some maye even see the 8.0 - 9.0 as a rush deal, and as a
 result be more likely to avoid 9.0. If you avoided 8.0 due to it being a
 .0 release, you are likely, in the general case, to avoid 9.0 for the
 same reason.

Let me be perfectly blunt here.  If you're avoiding a .0 release solely
based on the numbering scheme, then you haven't earned the right to be a
system administrator.  Every release needs to be evaluated based on its
strenghts and weaknesses and how relevant it is to your environment.  

You can have a crappy 8.27 release and it might be just as likely that
you'll have a rock solid 9.0 release.  It's just a number.

I've seen alpha releases more stable than production releases.  I've
seen production releases from *lots* of vendors that plain out suck.
These aren't all .0 releases either.

People doing installs next month have multiple choices, all with varying
tradeoffs.  They can install 7.3, 8.0, 9, or Enterprise Linux.  All have
pros and cons and some will be more relevant to your environment than
others.  You can even install a release older than 7.3 if that suits you
better.  You get to trade off features, bugs, performance, and support
(and price with Enterprise Linux).

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Re: upgrading your system... my experience

2003-03-25 Thread Willem van der Walt[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,
Regarding the message with this subject on redhat-list:
You can normally use epox boards with either Intell or AMD processors.
The Asus boards can be a problem as they do not always use the same 
chipset
maker.
I do not know where you are, but if you are in Gauteng, you can contact
me and we can discuss suppliers availability etc.
For now, stay away from SIS chipsets.
Check the VIA chipsets (used by epox) before you buy.
If you can get it, the Intel bords in my experience works well too.
I have had good results from an LG network card using Realtech chipsets
and an acton card, will have to check the chipset aggain.
regards, Willem
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Re: Redhat 8 install problem

2003-03-25 Thread Jon Haugsand
* Jon Morgan

 I am trying to install RedHat 8 on a Dell Inspiron 2500 laptop.  I
 can have it boot to text mode and it works fine.  When I launch
 startx it then hangs with the X mouse icon.  I have managed to trace
 it's way through the scripts to where it launched gnome-session in
 the Xclient script.  From there I'm lost.  I have messed with
 commenting out certain portions of the Xclient script just to
 confirm what is causing it and the only thing that changed is the
 mouse icon when it hangs.  Any ideas?

What do you get out of /var/log/XFree86.0.log?

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Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed

2003-03-25 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 09:30:00PM +1100, Roger wrote:
 I had a number of servers running 6.2/7.2/7.3, but as 7.3 won't be
 supported after 31-Dec-03 I had to decide what version I was going to
 run.  Like many people, I don't want phone/email support from Red Hat,
 just the errata packages for security and bug fixes.  As the general
 releases won't be supported for more than 12 months (unlike RH6.2 - 3
 years), I was not too keen to upgrade my reliable 7.2/7.3 servers with 8.0
 or 9.0 at the end of the year.
 
 So I built my own version of Red Hat Advanced Server 2.1 from the SRPMS
 and have a near automated process for building the errata RPMS from the
 SRPMS.  I can install my custom built version of RHAS 2.1 on as many
 servers as I like (quite legally - GPL) without needing to pay Red Hat a
 huge amount of money in per server per year licenses.  With this, I now
 get the benefit of 5+ years of errata for a stable Linux distribution.

I'll be migrating to Edge Server.  At $349 per year, it's still
reasonably priced for enterprise software and it's cheaper for my
company to install Edge Server on 80 servers than it is to maintain my
collection of sources, develop some procedures to build patches, risk
the delay in getting notification of security holes, plan and install
new upgrades, etc.

 I don't mind paying money for errata packages, such as if Red Hat decided
 to support 7.3 for 2 more years, but I'm not going to pay $US1500 per
 server, per year.

That's my Edge Server makes a lot more sense than Advanced Server for a
lot of people.

 Anyone running one of the 'consumer' versions of Red Hat will soon be out
 in the cold.

That's going too far.  The 'consumer versions will have their place.  I
see regular posts from people who want the latest and greatest features,
want it now, and don't mind upgrading regularly.  Look at the flood that
will happen within a day of 9 being released - there is always going to
be a demand.  After all, the price is right (free, with free security
updates).  The 'consumer' versions just won't have a place in large
businesses, nor should they (IMO).

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RE: ssh2 keygen??

2003-03-25 Thread James Francis
Søren Neigaard wrote:
 I have a Tru64 Unix that I want to ssh to from a Redhat Linux, and
 the Tru64 only allows ssh2. And I also need it to work without
 passwords. 
 
 I have generated a RSA and a DSA key on the Redhat (with ssh-keygen
 -t rsa and ssh-keygen -t dsa). I have copied the id_rsa.pub into
 root/.ssh2/authorized_keys on the Tru64, I have copied the id_dsa.pub
 into root/.ssh2/authorized_keys2 on the Tru64, and I have copied the
 id_dsa.pub into root/.ssh2/hostkeys/key_22_MYIP.pub on the Tru64
 
 None of this works, I still need to give the password each time... :(
 
 Any ideas, what am I doing wrong here?
Did you enter a password when you generated the keys?  If you did, then you
have have to enter them when ssh'ing in.  If you don't want to enter a
password, regenerate the keys using ssh-gen like you did before, and when
prompted for a password, just hit enter without entering anything.  Put
these keys into your authorized_keys files on the remote machine and you
will be good to go.

JMF
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Re: Redhat 8 install problem

2003-03-25 Thread Eduardo Silva
I am still a very much Linux newbie, so treat this info accordingly:

You can try to see whether your /etc/X11/XF86Config is configured 
correctly. Also try using redhat-config-xfree86 to try to config your X 
correctly.

I have Redhat 8.0 on a Inpiron as well with X working OK. If you want I 
can e-mail my XF86Config (send me an e-mail directly so as not to 
overload the list).

Reg,

Jon Morgan wrote:

I am trying to install RedHat 8 on a Dell Inspiron 2500 laptop.  I can have it boot to text mode and it works fine.  When I launch startx it then hangs with the X mouse icon.  I have managed to trace it's way through the scripts to where it launched gnome-session in the Xclient script.  From there I'm lost.  I have messed with commenting out certain portions of the Xclient script just to confirm what is causing it and the only thing that changed is the mouse icon when it hangs.  Any ideas?  
Thanks,
Jon Morgan



 

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RE: setting dial-in server

2003-03-25 Thread christopher cuse
Hi Mark,

I see -- I think that the operative term is remote management -- I have a
couple of Dell servers with remote management cards that allow for console
redirection. this is pobably the most elegant and expensive option :-)
although maybe others could comment if there are cards available at
resaonable prices. Mine is built in and tied into bios allowing full remote
control including bios modification.

The issue becomes security, because if you have no means of securing the
dial-in (a user authuntification sheme) then anyone with your modem number
gets directly to a su console -- a horrible thought. I think that you could
try to play with mingetty and a modem, but I have never done so. Please do
post back if find a good solution.

Cheers

Christopher CUSE
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Hi

I'm looking to do console redirection via modem, from all the way from
boot to a fully running system, to allow for better remote management
control. (ie. to allow me to take the machine to single user mode from
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RE: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed

2003-03-25 Thread Burke, Thomas G.
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What's the point in upgrading if you don't need to?  My server still
runs 6.2, and has no need for an upgrade.

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On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 08:52:39AM -0300, Martin Marques wrote:
 I surely have my systems on 7.3, and was waiting for 8.1 to come
 out. I don't know if I will switch to 9.0.

If you evaluated Phoebe and liked it, why would 9 not suit your
needs?
What makes you think that 9 is that much different than what you
thought
8.1 was going to be?  It's just a number!

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2003-03-25 Thread Jianping Zhu

I try to seach something by author, subject on rehat-list and
redhat-install-list achives. But always failed. For example when i try to
get my previous posts with Author Jianping Zhu, but i can never get
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Re: redhat-release and version

2003-03-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
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 rpm -q redhat-release and cat /proc/version usually give different version 
 numbers, what does each mean?

First one prints version and release of the RPM package with the
name redhat-release. See rpm --query --list redhat-release to
see what that package contains.

Second one prints Linux kernel version and build information, such
as build hostname, build time and compiler version. Part of that is
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Re: ssh2 keygen??

2003-03-25 Thread Bret Hughes
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 07:26, Søren Neigaard wrote:
 I have a Tru64 Unix that I want to ssh to from a Redhat Linux, and the Tru64
 only allows ssh2. And I also need it to work without passwords.
 
 I have generated a RSA and a DSA key on the Redhat (with ssh-keygen -t rsa
 and ssh-keygen -t dsa). I have copied the id_rsa.pub into
 root/.ssh2/authorized_keys on the Tru64, I have copied the id_dsa.pub into
 root/.ssh2/authorized_keys2 on the Tru64, and I have copied the id_dsa.pub
 into root/.ssh2/hostkeys/key_22_MYIP.pub on the Tru64
 
 None of this works, I still need to give the password each time... :(
 
 Any ideas, what am I doing wrong here?
 

I have no experience with the Tru64 and don't know what ssh it uses. 
Having said that, I had to convert openssh keys to be used correctly
with a commercial ssh on windows.

See if this helps:
http://www.netsys.com/cgi-bin/display_article.cgi?1254

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SOLVED: ssh2 keygen??

2003-03-25 Thread Søren Neigaard
Well on the Tru64 machine, everything is a little different... I had to make
a file containing the key, and then another file that pointed to this key,
and then it worked.

/Søren

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Emne: ssh2 keygen??


I have a Tru64 Unix that I want to ssh to from a Redhat Linux, and the Tru64
only allows ssh2. And I also need it to work without passwords.

I have generated a RSA and a DSA key on the Redhat (with ssh-keygen -t rsa
and ssh-keygen -t dsa). I have copied the id_rsa.pub into
root/.ssh2/authorized_keys on the Tru64, I have copied the id_dsa.pub into
root/.ssh2/authorized_keys2 on the Tru64, and I have copied the id_dsa.pub
into root/.ssh2/hostkeys/key_22_MYIP.pub on the Tru64

None of this works, I still need to give the password each time... :(

Any ideas, what am I doing wrong here?

Med venlig hilsen/Best regards
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Re: Redhat 8 install problem

2003-03-25 Thread Jon Morgan

XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-72) / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 23 January 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.18-11smp i686 [ELF] 
Build Host: daffy.perf.redhat.com
 
Module Loader present
OS Kernel: Linux version 2.4.18-14 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2 20020903 (Red 
Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)) #1 Wed Sep 4 13:35:50 EDT 2002 
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Tue Mar 25 08:49:11 2003
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config
(==) ServerLayout Anaconda Configured
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Monitor0
(**) |   |--Device Intel 815
(**) |--Input Device Mouse0
(**) |--Input Device Mouse1
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
(**) Option XkbRules xfree86
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) Option XkbModel pc105
(**) XKB: model: pc105
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) XKB: layout: us
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) FontPath set to unix/:7100
(**) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(--) using VT number 7

(II) Open APM successful
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: pcidata
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x8001193c, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,1130 card 1028,00c9 rev 11 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 8086,1132 card 1028,00c9 rev 11 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,2448 card , rev 03 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,244c card , rev 03 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,244a card 8086,4541 rev 03 class 01,01,80 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:2: chip 8086,2442 card 8086,4541 rev 03 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,2443 card 8086,4541 rev 03 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:4: chip 8086,2444 card 8086,4541 rev 03 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,2445 card 1028,00c9 rev 03 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:03:0: chip 1217,6933 card 0001, rev 01 class 06,07,00 hdr 82
(II) PCI: 01:03:1: chip 1217,6933 card 0001, rev 01 class 06,07,00 hdr 82
(II) PCI: 01:0b:0: chip 1668,0100 card , rev 11 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 02:04:0: chip 8086,1229 card 1668,1100 rev 08 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:08:0: chip 11c1,0448 card 1668,2400 rev 01 class 07,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: scanpci
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) UnloadModule: scanpci
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1  0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,1,2), BCTRL: 0x04 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
[0] -1  0x2000 - 0x20ff (0x100) IX[B]
[1] -1  0x2400 - 0x24ff (0x100) IX[B]
[2] -1  0x2800 - 0x28ff (0x100) IX[B]
[3] -1  0x2c00 - 0x2cff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0xf410 - 0xf42f (0x20) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus -1 I/O range:
(II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range:
(II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range:
(II) Bus 2: bridge is at (1:11:0), (1,2,2), BCTRL: 0x04 (VGA_EN is 

Re: system freeze ...

2003-03-25 Thread Mike Taggart
Well, I pulled the RAM and replaced it was some others that I had and
there's no problems now! :)

Thanks again for the help,

Mike

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From: Steven Efurd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: system freeze ...


 On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 16:24:04 -0500
 Mike Taggart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm running into a problem and not sure why it happens - I'm running the
updates through RHN and my pc is routinely freezing during the updates.
I've reseated my RAM and Video card thinking maybe somehow they came loose.
 
  Anyone run into this before or know how to fix it?
 
  Mike
 try this:
  rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
  rpm -vv --rebuilddb

 then retry the updates

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Re: Redhat 8 install problem

2003-03-25 Thread Jon Morgan
I tried to run the redhat-config-xfree86 utility and it gets as far as making the 
mouse icon an arrow.  Progress!  :)  As for the XF86Config, it is the default file 
generated by Anaconda at install.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/25/03 08:40AM 
I am still a very much Linux newbie, so treat this info accordingly:

You can try to see whether your /etc/X11/XF86Config is configured 
correctly. Also try using redhat-config-xfree86 to try to config your X 
correctly.

I have Redhat 8.0 on a Inpiron as well with X working OK. If you want I 
can e-mail my XF86Config (send me an e-mail directly so as not to 
overload the list).

Reg,

Jon Morgan wrote:

I am trying to install RedHat 8 on a Dell Inspiron 2500 laptop.  I can have it boot 
to text mode and it works fine.  When I launch startx it then hangs with the X mouse 
icon.  I have managed to trace it's way through the scripts to where it launched 
gnome-session in the Xclient script.  From there I'm lost.  I have messed with 
commenting out certain portions of the Xclient script just to confirm what is causing 
it and the only thing that changed is the mouse icon when it hangs.  Any ideas?  
Thanks,
Jon Morgan



  


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Re: Redhat 8 install problem

2003-03-25 Thread Jon Haugsand
* Jon Morgan
 XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-72) / X Window System
 (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)

I'm no expert, but it looks ok.  And I now realized that your X system
does not hang in any way, it may be up and running healthy.  What you
might miss is a window manager.

Did you install Gnome, KDE or fvwm2?  Do you have a file called
~/.xsession-errors?


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RTL8139 issue

2003-03-25 Thread Bored is me


im using an RTL8139 SMC EZ CARD, and this site (http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=detailshid=4429)says it IS supported, but whenever i try to activate it, it says it can't. (sorry, im an uber-newbie to linux) all of my network stuff is set to localhost stuff, (it w!
as standard) i dont know if i have to change anything, or what! please help me. should i just get another card?



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RE: 38 GB partitioning advice

2003-03-25 Thread Joe Polk
I see a couple of problems already. /boot should be no more than 100MB.
Anything more is a waste. / should be way more than 500MB. I know that
some will say I run my entire Linux box on a 486DX66 and 250MB HD!
Well, this is RH8 and given what you're telling me, I would jack that
up. I would give it at least a Gig. I use a 4gig on my server but it
shares /usr too and not many applications will be loaded. Also, if users
are going to be uploading these files, then they will likely reside in
/home. If you're having an anonymous FTP server then you can point that
where you want, but I would still use /home for all such storage.  /usr
is application data and I wouldn't use if for ftp storage, but you're
certainly free to do so. Hell, you can put it anywhere you want, but
that's just my assessment.
Here's how I would do it, take this for what you will:
/boot   = 80MB
/   = 5G
/usr= 3G
/home   = remaining
SWAP= 512MB

There are a plethora of opinions I'm sure on whether this is necessary,
take that for what you will. If you plan to add Apache and email
services, then add a /var partition. Keep in mind Apache by default now
uses /var/www for it's root, not /home/http as in the past. You can,
however, move it to /home if you wish.

The important thing to stress is, increase / and make /boot smaller as
indicated. 500MB is too small for / and way too big for /boot.

JAV

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 08:06, Douglas, Stuart wrote:
 Thanks for the reply (all of you!).
 
 I did read a tiny bit about LVM in the RH install/config documentation.  It seemed 
 like very useful technology, but I stayed away from it for the moment given my 
 embryonic understanding of the Linux environment.
 
 My setup is strictly for an anonymous (private...by fixed IP list at the FW) FTP 
 server that will take in HUGE (100-1000 MB) MPEG2 files which then get moved to our 
 video production servers (the FTP basically serves as a temporary holding bin for 
 inbound content from our clients).  Being stuck on the cheap, I'm using an old 
 PII/400 PC with 256 MB of RAM and 2 40 GB IDE drives connected to a HighPoint ATA 
 controller card and setting up RAID1 during the Linux install.  I started the 
 install yesterday, and after feeling my way through the manual DiskDruid part 
 (something like 5-6 times!) I THINK I have the RAID done correctly (I'll find out 
 this morning, I left it doing the drive checking part on all the partitions 
 yesterday evening).  I went with 500 MB partitions for swap, / and /boot.  I went 
 with 4 GB /var and /home partitions, and then put all remaining disk space into the 
 /usr partition (where I'll point the FTP server).  I have no idea if the box will 
 even end up booti!
ng!
  after I'm done...I guess I'll find out shortly.  Since this is something of a 
 developmental/test box, I'd kinda like to investigate everyone's LVM suggestions, 
 especially since I'm not even through the initial OS install yet.  I may just have 
 to get out the company checkbook and get a hardware IDE RAID controller instead and 
 start all over.
 
 Sorry to ramble a bit hear, but if anyone has any feedback given the above, your 
 advice or comments are always greatly appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 
 Stuart
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Thierry ITTY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:13 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 38 GB partitioning advice
 
 
 I'd set up reasonnable system partitions (depending on what you'll install)
 such as
 50/100 MB for /boot
 2/4GB for /
 swap (twice ram)
 then use LVM for the rest. with LVM you'll be able to increase/decrease
 partitions size seamlessly
 
 
 
 
 A 13:00 24/03/2003 -0500, vous avez crit :
 All,
 
 I'm setting up a RH8 server (FTP) onto mirrored 40 GB drives (38162
 usable...doing the RAID as part of the OS install) and need some
 partitioning suggestions for the installation.  What partitions and sizes
 should I use (and why for those who feel like being extra
 informative...thanks in advance).
 
 Regards and thanks,
 
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Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed

2003-03-25 Thread Rick Johnson
Bill Anderson wrote:
Given the number of people who avoid X.0 releases, waiting instead for
X.[1,2,3] releases, I would not be suprised to see a slower adoption
rate. Some maye even see the 8.0 - 9.0 as a rush deal, and as a
result be more likely to avoid 9.0. If you avoided 8.0 due to it being a
.0 release, you are likely, in the general case, to avoid 9.0 for the
same reason.
If memory serves, there are people on this very list that acknowledge
they tend away from X.0 releaes. Many suggest staying away from X.0
releases as well. I would think it more dramatic for these people to
suddenly be pro-9.0.


Allow me to pass along an official correction from an insider - this is 
Red Hat 9, not Red Hat 9.0. Surely it would be 8.1 if binary compatability 
was maintained.

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Re: beta install change not good?

2003-03-25 Thread Bret Hughes
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 20:27, Bill Anderson wrote:

snip
 As an instructor who needs to insall on the sites I go to, I look at it
 this way:
 The most common use of personal should be optimized for the single disc
 install. It decreases the number of discs, and speeds my install. This
 is not an insignificant difference. Unfortunately, not all sites I've
 gone to have a 100MB network, instead running 10MB through a hub -- an
 install of half a dozen or more desktops over that network is s s s s s
 s l l l l l l o o o o o o o o o ow. 
 
 If I can drop a single disc in, get them all started, and move on to
 something else, it cuts down my prep time dramtically.
 
 That's why for Linux Fundamentals, and general admin/shell scripting
 classes I've found Debian a better platform. One disc has made a major
 difference in time spent there.
 
 I'm not advocating (here) what should constitute a given install
 package, just that the minimum and/or the personal desktop should
 not require all the discs, just the first one. Not advocating package
 change, just disc sequencing. ;)
 

Bill -  It sounds like this might be a great application for you to
build your own installation cds with  kickstart built in.  Burn a dozen
and you can simply walk into a lab, insert the cd, reboot and walk
away.  You could then do all of them simultaneously and hava working lab
in about 15 minutes.

It is really not that difficult and the time spent getting it right
would pay for it on the first install.  I have some links somewhere.  If
you like I can try to dig them up.  With your skills you should be able
to knock out a working version in half a day or so.  The kickstart list
is good for working on stuff like this as well.

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Re: RTL8139 issue

2003-03-25 Thread Joe Polk
How are you trying to activate it?

When you reboot, you should see a line Starting eth0 during the section
where all the daemons start (charactarized by all the green OK's you
see).  Do you see eth0 starting OK? or FAILED? Let us know. Also give us
some idea of what kinda system you're running.

JAV

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 10:10, Bored is me wrote:

im using an RTL8139 SMC EZ CARD, and this site 
(http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=detailshid=4429)says it 
IS supported, but whenever i try to activate it, it says it can't. 
(sorry, im an uber-newbie to linux) all of my network stuff is set 
to localhost stuff, (it w! as standard) i dont know if i have to 
change anything, or what! please help me. should i just get another 
card?




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RTL8139 issue

2003-03-25 Thread Bored is me
im using an RTL8139 SMC EZ CARD, and this site
(http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=detailshid=4429)says it
IS supported, but whenever i try to activate it, it says it can't.
(sorry, im an uber-newbie to linux) all of my network stuff is set
to localhost stuff, (it was standard) i dont know if i have to
change anything, or what! please help me. should i just get another
card?
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Re: [Fwd: Red Hat Linux 9 | Get the latest Linux early]

2003-03-25 Thread Rick Johnson
Roger wrote:
Some people may argue they are worthless to start off with.

On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Billy wrote:


Its not the version number that people care about...the RHCE cert is based
on version numbers. So the big jump in version numbers makes the cert
worthless a lot faster!


Those people haven't taken the 6 hour exam (mostly labs), and then compared 
the people who passed to the book-smart people who passed their MCSEs :-)

There is *some* value to it if you're framiliar with it.

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Re: A code editor with auto-indentation ?

2003-03-25 Thread dbrett
I thought I would have a look as well, but got this fail dependencies,
which doesn't make sense to me.

Would somebody explain what this is saying.


rpm -ihv jedit-rhmenu-4.1-1jpp.noarch.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
jedit = 4.1-1jpp is needed by jedit-rhmenu-4.1-1jpp


david

On 21 Mar 2003, Julien Olivier wrote:

 Le ven 21/03/2003 à 22:07, David Busby a écrit :
  I asked a similar question a few days (maybe?) ago aboud cool Code editors,
  I tried some of the recommended and dig this one written in Java called
  jEdit.
  
 
 I just tried it (downloaded from jpackage.org) and you're right: it
 rocks ! I think I'll keep it for a while.
 
 Thanks for the tip !
 
  /B
  - Original Message -
  From: Jeff Kinz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 13:03
  Subject: Re: A code editor with auto-indentation ?
  
  
   On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 09:51:49PM +0100, Julien Olivier wrote:
Hi
   
I'm an almost happy Emacs user. What I really LOVE in emacs is the fact
that you can automatically indent code using TAB (by automatically I
mean that you press TAB once and the code is put at the correct columne,
without needing to press TAB several times).
   
The problem is that Emacs has some bugs/problems:
 - It can't open files located in non-UTF paths.
 - It has weird keybindings (CTRL-W to cut, CTRL-Y to paste, nothing to
copy, F10-f-s to save, F10-f-e to exit...)
 - There is no way to make a search or to repeat this search using a key
combination.
 - It uses the X11 clipboard so that you can't select something and
paste over it.
 - Selecting several lines of code and pressing a key to REPLACE the
selected characters doesn't work
   
So my question is: is there any other code editor with the auto-indent
feature and which doesn't have the bugs I wrote upper ? Or,
alternatively, is there something like kvim (a vim module for KDE) but
using GNOME and Emacs ?
  
   Emacs is the most programmable editor on the planet.  You can write a
   macro to make it do anything you want it to do.  All the keybindings are
   re-programmable.   Just read the docs and start hacking! :-)
  
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RE: 38 GB partitioning advice

2003-03-25 Thread Douglas, Stuart
Thanks for the detailed reply, Joe!

Well...the box DID boot with that HighPoint card and software RAID1 on the 2 drives.  
I'm going to redo it all over again, but with your partition recommendations.  No 
plans for a Web server, but you never know.  This is really just a box for me to mess 
with regarding FTP setup and/or act as an emergency spare to replace any in production.

Now I have to go read up on LVM to see if I can add it to the mix.

Thanks again!

Stuart


-Original Message-
From: Joe Polk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: 38 GB partitioning advice


I see a couple of problems already. /boot should be no more than 100MB.
Anything more is a waste. / should be way more than 500MB. I know that
some will say I run my entire Linux box on a 486DX66 and 250MB HD!
Well, this is RH8 and given what you're telling me, I would jack that
up. I would give it at least a Gig. I use a 4gig on my server but it
shares /usr too and not many applications will be loaded. Also, if users
are going to be uploading these files, then they will likely reside in
/home. If you're having an anonymous FTP server then you can point that
where you want, but I would still use /home for all such storage.  /usr
is application data and I wouldn't use if for ftp storage, but you're
certainly free to do so. Hell, you can put it anywhere you want, but
that's just my assessment.
Here's how I would do it, take this for what you will:
/boot   = 80MB
/   = 5G
/usr= 3G
/home   = remaining
SWAP= 512MB

There are a plethora of opinions I'm sure on whether this is necessary,
take that for what you will. If you plan to add Apache and email
services, then add a /var partition. Keep in mind Apache by default now
uses /var/www for it's root, not /home/http as in the past. You can,
however, move it to /home if you wish.

The important thing to stress is, increase / and make /boot smaller as
indicated. 500MB is too small for / and way too big for /boot.

JAV

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 08:06, Douglas, Stuart wrote:
 Thanks for the reply (all of you!).
 
 I did read a tiny bit about LVM in the RH install/config documentation.  It seemed 
 like very useful technology, but I stayed away from it for the moment given my 
 embryonic understanding of the Linux environment.
 
 My setup is strictly for an anonymous (private...by fixed IP list at the FW) FTP 
 server that will take in HUGE (100-1000 MB) MPEG2 files which then get moved to our 
 video production servers (the FTP basically serves as a temporary holding bin for 
 inbound content from our clients).  Being stuck on the cheap, I'm using an old 
 PII/400 PC with 256 MB of RAM and 2 40 GB IDE drives connected to a HighPoint ATA 
 controller card and setting up RAID1 during the Linux install.  I started the 
 install yesterday, and after feeling my way through the manual DiskDruid part 
 (something like 5-6 times!) I THINK I have the RAID done correctly (I'll find out 
 this morning, I left it doing the drive checking part on all the partitions 
 yesterday evening).  I went with 500 MB partitions for swap, / and /boot.  I went 
 with 4 GB /var and /home partitions, and then put all remaining disk space into the 
 /usr partition (where I'll point the FTP server).  I have no idea if the box will 
 even end up booti!
ng!
  after I'm done...I guess I'll find out shortly.  Since this is something of a 
 developmental/test box, I'd kinda like to investigate everyone's LVM suggestions, 
 especially since I'm not even through the initial OS install yet.  I may just have 
 to get out the company checkbook and get a hardware IDE RAID controller instead and 
 start all over.
 
 Sorry to ramble a bit hear, but if anyone has any feedback given the above, your 
 advice or comments are always greatly appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 
 Stuart
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Thierry ITTY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:13 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 38 GB partitioning advice
 
 
 I'd set up reasonnable system partitions (depending on what you'll install)
 such as
 50/100 MB for /boot
 2/4GB for /
 swap (twice ram)
 then use LVM for the rest. with LVM you'll be able to increase/decrease
 partitions size seamlessly
 
 
 
 
 A 13:00 24/03/2003 -0500, vous avez crit :
 All,
 
 I'm setting up a RH8 server (FTP) onto mirrored 40 GB drives (38162
 usable...doing the RAID as part of the OS install) and need some
 partitioning suggestions for the installation.  What partitions and sizes
 should I use (and why for those who feel like being extra
 informative...thanks in advance).
 
 Regards and thanks,
 
 Stuart
 
 
 
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Re: search mail-list archive

2003-03-25 Thread Bret Hughes
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 08:46, Jianping Zhu wrote:
 
 I try to seach something by author, subject on rehat-list and
 redhat-install-list achives. But always failed. For example when i try to
 get my previous posts with Author Jianping Zhu, but i can never get
 anything. Is there anything special i have to in order to search?
 
 Thanks


Yeah.  Don't use the crappy redhat search.  I use 
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=redhat-listr=1w=2

for searching.  It works pretty well.

I have taken to using the site for searching all maillists there must be
two hundred lists archived there.

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Re: RTL8139 issue

2003-03-25 Thread Bret Hughes
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 09:10, Bored is me wrote:

im using an RTL8139 SMC EZ CARD, and this site 
(http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=detailshid=4429)says it 
IS supported, but whenever i try to activate it, it says it can't. 
(sorry, im an uber-newbie to linux) all of my network stuff is set 
to localhost stuff, (it w! as standard) i dont know if i have to 
change anything, or what! please help me. should i just get another 
card?


post the steps you are using to activate it and the messages you get
back and someone can possibly help.  was the card recognized by kudzu
(hardware detection)?

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Re: beta install change not good?

2003-03-25 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Bret Hughes wrote:

 On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 20:27, Bill Anderson wrote:
 
 snip
  As an instructor who needs to insall on the sites I go to, I look at it
  this way:
  The most common use of personal should be optimized for the single disc
  install. It decreases the number of discs, and speeds my install. This
  is not an insignificant difference. Unfortunately, not all sites I've
  gone to have a 100MB network, instead running 10MB through a hub -- an
  install of half a dozen or more desktops over that network is s s s s s
  s l l l l l l o o o o o o o o o ow. 
  
  If I can drop a single disc in, get them all started, and move on to
  something else, it cuts down my prep time dramtically.
  
  That's why for Linux Fundamentals, and general admin/shell scripting
  classes I've found Debian a better platform. One disc has made a major
  difference in time spent there.
  
  I'm not advocating (here) what should constitute a given install
  package, just that the minimum and/or the personal desktop should
  not require all the discs, just the first one. Not advocating package
  change, just disc sequencing. ;)
  
 
 Bill -  It sounds like this might be a great application for you to
 build your own installation cds with  kickstart built in.  Burn a dozen
 and you can simply walk into a lab, insert the cd, reboot and walk
 away.  You could then do all of them simultaneously and hava working lab
 in about 15 minutes.
 
 It is really not that difficult and the time spent getting it right
 would pay for it on the first install.  I have some links somewhere.  If
 you like I can try to dig them up.  With your skills you should be able
 to knock out a working version in half a day or so.  The kickstart list
 is good for working on stuff like this as well.

the above is pretty close to what i did some time back when i was
teaching for a major client in texas.  they had a classroom i would
get access to about an hour before class started on the first day.
all seats already had a set of red hat CDs, so what i brought was
a kickstart floppy with an appropriate ks.cfg file.

one at a time, i'd start a kickstart install at each seat, removing the
floppy after it had done its job (about a minute or so), and move
on to the next seat.  once they were all installing, i'd go for coffee,
come back in a while to swap CDs.

yes, i know i could have burned custom CDs with the ks.cfg file 
right on the CD, but it didn't seem worth it.  if i ever wanted
to make changes, it was way easier to just make a new floppy than
a whole new set of CDs.

rday

p.s.  if you're feeling ambitious, you can have a laptop with
the CD ISOs on it, and use that as a network kickstart server,
make things go even faster.  i did that a couple times as well.



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LinNeighborhood Issue?

2003-03-25 Thread Tim Willis
I've been trying to mount a filesystem on an XP machine and I get the
following error: 

smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (500,500)
smbmnt failed:1

Now, this has worked in the past.  I'm not sure if I changed anything,
however there has been one kernal upgrade since I last used
LinNeighborhood.  Not sure that would make a difference though.

If I try to mount as root, I get this error: standard in must be tty

Any ideas what's gone wrong?
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RE: 38 GB partitioning advice

2003-03-25 Thread Joe Polk
I've not played with LVM myself, but it would certainly give you
flexibility. If I don't find a buyer for my HP Netserver, I may just
play with LVM myself.  For a relatively static server, though, I think
you'l do fine with the partitioning scheme I gave. I build most of my
servers based on such a percentage or setup. Now desktops and laptops
are a different beast. /usr really get's used then because you tend to
want to load a lot of applications on them. My first Linux book was one
that shipped with RH5.1. It did a good job of laying out what partitions
are used for and recommended sizes. I've loosely used that ever since,
upping the sizes for modern boxes and versions as I've moved along. 
Good luck on the project! Glad I could help.

JAV

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 10:24, Douglas, Stuart wrote:
 Thanks for the detailed reply, Joe!
 
 Well...the box DID boot with that HighPoint card and software RAID1 on the 2 drives. 
  I'm going to redo it all over again, but with your partition recommendations.  No 
 plans for a Web server, but you never know.  This is really just a box for me to 
 mess with regarding FTP setup and/or act as an emergency spare to replace any in 
 production.
 
 Now I have to go read up on LVM to see if I can add it to the mix.
 
 Thanks again!
 
 Stuart
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Joe Polk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:11 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: 38 GB partitioning advice
 
 
 I see a couple of problems already. /boot should be no more than 100MB.
 Anything more is a waste. / should be way more than 500MB. I know that
 some will say I run my entire Linux box on a 486DX66 and 250MB HD!
 Well, this is RH8 and given what you're telling me, I would jack that
 up. I would give it at least a Gig. I use a 4gig on my server but it
 shares /usr too and not many applications will be loaded. Also, if users
 are going to be uploading these files, then they will likely reside in
 /home. If you're having an anonymous FTP server then you can point that
 where you want, but I would still use /home for all such storage.  /usr
 is application data and I wouldn't use if for ftp storage, but you're
 certainly free to do so. Hell, you can put it anywhere you want, but
 that's just my assessment.
 Here's how I would do it, take this for what you will:
 /boot = 80MB
 / = 5G
 /usr  = 3G
 /home = remaining
 SWAP  = 512MB
 
 There are a plethora of opinions I'm sure on whether this is necessary,
 take that for what you will. If you plan to add Apache and email
 services, then add a /var partition. Keep in mind Apache by default now
 uses /var/www for it's root, not /home/http as in the past. You can,
 however, move it to /home if you wish.
 
 The important thing to stress is, increase / and make /boot smaller as
 indicated. 500MB is too small for / and way too big for /boot.
 
 JAV
 
 On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 08:06, Douglas, Stuart wrote:
  Thanks for the reply (all of you!).
  
  I did read a tiny bit about LVM in the RH install/config documentation.  It seemed 
  like very useful technology, but I stayed away from it for the moment given my 
  embryonic understanding of the Linux environment.
  
  My setup is strictly for an anonymous (private...by fixed IP list at the FW) FTP 
  server that will take in HUGE (100-1000 MB) MPEG2 files which then get moved to 
  our video production servers (the FTP basically serves as a temporary holding bin 
  for inbound content from our clients).  Being stuck on the cheap, I'm using an old 
  PII/400 PC with 256 MB of RAM and 2 40 GB IDE drives connected to a HighPoint ATA 
  controller card and setting up RAID1 during the Linux install.  I started the 
  install yesterday, and after feeling my way through the manual DiskDruid part 
  (something like 5-6 times!) I THINK I have the RAID done correctly (I'll find out 
  this morning, I left it doing the drive checking part on all the partitions 
  yesterday evening).  I went with 500 MB partitions for swap, / and /boot.  I went 
  with 4 GB /var and /home partitions, and then put all remaining disk space into 
  the /usr partition (where I'll point the FTP server).  I have no idea if the box 
  will even end up boo!
ti!
 ng!
   after I'm done...I guess I'll find out shortly.  Since this is something of a 
  developmental/test box, I'd kinda like to investigate everyone's LVM suggestions, 
  especially since I'm not even through the initial OS install yet.  I may just have 
  to get out the company checkbook and get a hardware IDE RAID controller instead 
  and start all over.
  
  Sorry to ramble a bit hear, but if anyone has any feedback given the above, your 
  advice or comments are always greatly appreciated.
  
  Regards,
  
  Stuart
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Thierry ITTY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:13 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: 38 GB partitioning advice
  
  
  I'd set up reasonnable system 

Re: LinNeighborhood Issue?

2003-03-25 Thread Michael S. Dunsavage
When I upgraded to  2.4.20 I had that problem.

As much as I hate making it suid I just went ahead and made smbmount and 
smbumount as suid

On Tuesday 25 March 2003 10:33 am, you wrote:

 I've been trying to mount a filesystem on an XP machine and I get the
 following error:

 smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (500,500)
 smbmnt failed:1

 Now, this has worked in the past.  I'm not sure if I changed anything,
 however there has been one kernal upgrade since I last used
 LinNeighborhood.  Not sure that would make a difference though.

 If I try to mount as root, I get this error: standard in must be tty

 Any ideas what's gone wrong?



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Re: Redhat 8 install problem

2003-03-25 Thread Jon Morgan
I don't have an .xsession-errors file but I do have .gconf, .gnome etc.  I installed 
GNOME as my default Windows manager and it is what is indicated in the 
/etc/sysconfig/desktop file.

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* Jon Morgan
 XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-72) / X Window System
 (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)

I'm no expert, but it looks ok.  And I now realized that your X system
does not hang in any way, it may be up and running healthy.  What you
might miss is a window manager.

Did you install Gnome, KDE or fvwm2?  Do you have a file called
~/.xsession-errors?


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Re: amanda installation

2003-03-25 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Jianping Zhu wrote:

 I have three redhat 7.3 boxes, b1 b2 b3, only b1 has tape drive, I want
 install amanda for three machines backup system to tape.  I can install
 amanda-2.4.2p2-7.i386.rpm on b1, what should i install on b2, b3, in order
 to do backup?
 Thanks

You need amanda and amanda-server RPMs on b1, and amanda and amanda-client
RPMs on b2 and b3.

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Re: RTL8139 issue

2003-03-25 Thread Willi Mann
Try (as root)

lsmod (look if a kernel module containing 8139 is listed - if not)
modprobe 8130cp
modprobe 8130too - if one of the last works it's your setup that makes 
problems. (try the setup command at command line)

Post a short summary about what you did to setup your card and include 
the error messages which occur!

Please let me know if you got it working!

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Re: RH 9: ok, so i overreacted ... but i'm still miffed

2003-03-25 Thread Gene Yoo
Ed Wilts wrote:
Let's step back and put it all into perspective.  Red Hat sent out an
e-mail via chtah.com announcing Red Hat Linux 9, when it would be
generally available, how to get it early, and suddenly everybody's so
annoyed they're jumping distributions?  Take a deep breath, pop a valium 
and slowly back away from the keyboard.

i'm going to listen to ed and follow his instruction above 
anyways.  but seriously folks, red hat is a company, they 
don't particular have to follow any type of scheme per se, 
besides i didn't think the release version of the distro 
mattered much as package release control.
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Re: Redhat 8 install problem

2003-03-25 Thread Jon Morgan
Eduardo, you the man!  thanks for sending me your config file offline.  I'm up and 
running after modifying it to use my Intel 815 rather than the ATI Rage 128 Mobility 
in yours.  It's up and running.  I'll have to dig a bit deaper to find the exact 
error.  

Thanks to you too Jon.  I appreciate y'alls help!

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/25/03 08:40AM 
I am still a very much Linux newbie, so treat this info accordingly:

You can try to see whether your /etc/X11/XF86Config is configured 
correctly. Also try using redhat-config-xfree86 to try to config your X 
correctly.

I have Redhat 8.0 on a Inpiron as well with X working OK. If you want I 
can e-mail my XF86Config (send me an e-mail directly so as not to 
overload the list).

Reg,

Jon Morgan wrote:

I am trying to install RedHat 8 on a Dell Inspiron 2500 laptop.  I can have it boot 
to text mode and it works fine.  When I launch startx it then hangs with the X mouse 
icon.  I have managed to trace it's way through the scripts to where it launched 
gnome-session in the Xclient script.  From there I'm lost.  I have messed with 
commenting out certain portions of the Xclient script just to confirm what is causing 
it and the only thing that changed is the mouse icon when it hangs.  Any ideas?  
Thanks,
Jon Morgan



  


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Re: Using serial port

2003-03-25 Thread Gene Yoo
Al Sparks wrote:
I'd just like to say, as someone who was just lurking, that this
advice about minicom was great.  I had been trying to redirect input
from ttyS0 to a file using
   $ cat /dev/ttyS0  somefile
and all I was getting was garbage.  I was in the process of trying to
figure out stty settings, when I saw the post of Michael Mansour
and Joe Polk suggesting minicom.
I had posted my own question on this subject before in February, and
Gene Yoo also suggested minicom, but I had forgotten about that,
focusing on the cat solution Cameron Simpson had suggested.  It
looks like Gene has since switched to gtkterm (or maybe he uses both).
Minicom is great.  If you've ever used Procomm (the old DOS version,
not Procomm Plus for Windows), then using minicom will be a snap.  The
interface is similar.
i do use minicom, but for configuring cisco equipment, 
gtkterm was a nice gui version that i could use to connect 
to my laptop  : ) ...  especially when you have to cut and 
paste large amounts of screen shots or edit the files.  i 
just use whatever simple tool for my job : ) ...
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Re: Oracle install problems?

2003-03-25 Thread sentinel
Unless Oracle fixed it I wouldn't recommend using their own JRE.  When I
started installing Oracle on Linux servers I had all sorts of problems. 
When I replaced their JRE most of the problems went away.


 Every Oracle installation package I've seen (admittedly not a huge
 number) contains its own JRE, doesn't expect or use any other pre-
 installed Java. I suspect the OP has some setup/config problem instead.



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Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread John Nichel
mount -o loop -t iso9660 isofilename mountpoint

Jim Wilferling wrote:
   Alright, so I'm annoyed. Just learning linux, and I've gone through 7.2, 8.0, and 
was anticipating 8.1. so now there's 9.0, so whatI've tried to install 8.1 beta 
rpms, and there were worse problems than there were with 8.0.
So we copeI'm not about to switch distros so quickly, just cause of some 
version hullaboo. But I want the new release, If it contains gnome 2.2. Heres the rub. 
When they say binary incompatable, will my /home dir, which is its own partition, mess 
up a new9.0 istall? should I delete all my /home/Jim/.* files? And does this binary 
incompatability mean that I wont ever be able to just upgrade rpms on the fly? If not, 
is there a way to mount a disc image without it being on a disc? (I dont have a 
burner.)
Basically, I'm game, But does it brown the food?
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(no subject)

2003-03-25 Thread Jason M. Kuhlman
Following the discussion over the last couple of days over the release of RH
9 has been interesting.  Question:  Obviously most of us are very fond of
Redhat, at least up to 7.3 gathered by some of the heated discussion today.
Since I would assume RH would be/is your first choice of a Linux
distribution, what is your second and third choices?

Just curious




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Older Linux Distro's

2003-03-25 Thread John Nichel
I had heard a rumor a while back that there was a site which contained 
iso's/downloads for every stable release of every major version of Linux 
out there.  Does anyone know of this site?



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Re: RTL8139 issue

2003-03-25 Thread Wojtek Pilorz
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Bored is me wrote:

 Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:21:00 -0700
 From: Bored is me [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RTL8139 issue
 
 im using an RTL8139 SMC EZ CARD, and this site
 (http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=detailshid=4429)says it
 IS supported, but whenever i try to activate it, it says it can't.
 (sorry, im an uber-newbie to linux) all of my network stuff is set
 to localhost stuff, (it was standard) i dont know if i have to
 change anything, or what! please help me. should i just get another
 card?
I have RTL8139 card from Surecom which I could not get working at all 
UNTIL I moved it to another PCI slot - it seems the card could not work in 
the slot I put it initially into;
Since I have moved it to another PCI slot it work flawlessly.

I have ABIT motherboard (Intel 440BX based).

Could you possibly try to insert the card into some other PCI slot 
and check whether this helps?


Best regards,

Wojtek




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Re: Older Linux Distro's

2003-03-25 Thread Doug
www.distrowatch.com


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Subject: Older Linux Distro's


 I had heard a rumor a while back that there was a site which contained 
 iso's/downloads for every stable release of every major version of Linux 
 out there.  Does anyone know of this site?
 
 
 
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Redhat Linux 9.0 XFS support

2003-03-25 Thread Ubaidul Khan

Does anyone know if Redhat 9.0 will provide support of XFS (sgi's high
performance file system)? I heard some talk of the new kernel (2.4.21)
supporting XFS. Thanks


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RE: CD writing faster when CD-ROM also uses ide-scsi

2003-03-25 Thread Ward William E DLDN
 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Wardle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi
 
 A few weeks back, I purchased a new Lite-On 52x52x24 EIDE/ATAPI CD-RW
 drive, which supports a buffer underrun technology Lite-On calls
 BURNproof (or something similar).
 
 When I first tried to write a CD image using cdrecord, I was highly
 disappointed that I was only able to successfully write CDs 
 at about 24
 speed (any higher any cdrecord would generate error messages, 
 and the CD
 would be corrupt).
 
 My CD-RW drive is the secondary slave on the IDE bus, making 
 it /dev/hdd
 by default.  I also have a CD-ROM drive as master on the same channel,
 making it /dev/hdc.

I hadn't seen any replies to this yet, so I'll venture an observation
of my own:  CDRW should be the master device on any IDE chain that
they are attached to, at least whenever possible.  I've noticed
marked reliability concerns and performance concerns when the CDRW
wasn't the primary on it's chain, so I would switch the two drives
around.

That said, I hadn't noticed a problem with CDRW write speeds before
in my setup (I have a Samsung 24-10-40 CDRW and a Liteon 16/52x DVD
drive in my box, plus a 52X HiVal CD drive that I had had in the box
until this past weekend, when I needed it's power connector to start
my new RAID 0 array).  Some media, however, are not able to burn well
at higher speeds (I still have media my drive will default to 8x for,
although other media I can burn on at the full 24x; the drive (and
most of the better modern CDRWs) can detect the maximum media speed
relatively well).  I have yet to see 52x media, so you've got something
there (I've only seen media rated at 24x, though the best media I've
found is actually only rated for 8x (It was a CompUSA 100 pack I
picked up for $5 after rebate) that burns at whatever speed I can
dish out on any of the four burners I've got in my house, and the
burner in a friends machine, 2x24, 1x12 (Laptop), 1x? (Laptop), 1x2)

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