[AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God
You need help! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.jambands.com/Features/content_2006_06_23.06.phtml great Ann Coulter Interview... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Importance of Faith Based Organizations Providing Social Services
Sorry Kevin. If I were homeless and hungry, stopped in to your mission, I wouldn't want to have to pray with you, when my beliefs are different and not protestant, as you appear to be. Nothing against Protestants, mind you. I just don't want to be forced to participate in your religion, when everyone's tas dollars, provide YOU with the food to feed ME! The government is WRONG, to support faith-based religion! Like RAM it down my throat already! If I were an atheist, I'd be pissed! As far as philanthrophy, my perception was that the money used was your own! Hell, I'd be philanthropic too, if my Uncle Sam slid some to me! 501C-3, huh? Sounds like a good racket to me! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Issue Just as public institutions reconsider their funding patterns and seek to engage faith-based organizations more actively, private philanthropies also have the opportunity to forge partnerships with these groups. * See what's new at http://www.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Good to be Out and About
Werner, Glad that you are out of there. The Coaster and the Press, printed very good articles on your behalf. Such a sad and evil thing to do to someone. Tommy, there's something to be said for what you did; Thank You, is what I'm trying to say. This was one in several strange things, that have occurred to those who speak out in Asbury Park. When you buck the status quo, they can have you locked up, shut down, eminantly domained, simply because you searched for the truth. I wonder what country this is. Welcome Home! Sharon --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Approximately 24 hours ago I was released from the Monmouth County Correctional Institute (the County Jail) where I was incarcerated in an attempt to correct my difficulties in obtaining financing to perform repairs on my home. I had thought that debtors prisons were abolished years ago but that is apparantly not the case as I was charged with Contempt of Court. I have taken the time till now to address needed business matters such as paying mortgages and bills, catching up on voice mails, emails and of course this group and the press. First, allow me to express my profound thanks for the support, concern and expressions of outrage regarding my situation. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Ocean Township considering suing Weldon for accepting bribes
Officials are generally elected by the people. In the case of Asbury Park, the City Manager is a hire, to conduct the business of the Council, advise the council and make administrative decisions, for the City, favorable to the residents, or so I thought. Is everyone on the same page with that? What bothers me, is the decision by the Council, in place at the time Weldon was indicted, that CHOSE to award this man, over $67,000, a little above what he took in bribes, that he was caught taking and slapped the citizens of AP, in the face, when they did it. For this action alone, the Council should have been impeached, recalled, or driven out of office, for aiding and abetting a known criminal! Just my honest assessment and tell me if any of these decisions are illegal and if not, why not? If it's legal, there's no oversight, for one and for two, they don't care what we think! Maybe the FBI should investigate that action alone and why rewarding a thief, for being a thief, is okay. Only in Asbury Park, where corruption, is the norm, or so it seems. It's no wonder, working the system to suit you is okay, but when it's another group, they should burn in hell! There I go thinking, again! The same was true, for Asbury United. They won in 1996 and I thought the corruption aspect was over! I was wrong, as usual and wondered if being corrupt was the norm here. So now, what is the agenda? Who gets favored and who gets knocked over? Guess what? It's US, as usual. I'd like to see Asbury succeed and if we're lucky it will, but when the powers that be, close down establishments that are winners, like the Wonder Bar, close down Rita's store, that was successful, the 2 movie houses that are left, with one's survival, in jeopardy, one bike shop owner is shut down, for one whose in their favor gets opened, puzzles me. Did I miss something? A home owner gets locked up and his ownership is jeopardized, while earnest citizens are willing to help him, is really puzzling and I wonder what kind of country am I living in, because this one is a nightmare! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 09/6/07 BY ERIK LARSEN COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU OCEAN TOWNSHIP The township is weighing the option of suing former Mayor Terrance D. Weldon for violating his oath of office in accepting $64,000 in bribes from developers. We actually have a firm that has approached us about litigation and we are considering that,'' Mayor William F. Larkin said at a Township Council meeting Wednesday night. There is actually a firm that wants to represent us without cost.'' The law firm Franzblau Dratch of Livingston has successfully represented Essex County in a case that went to the state Supreme Court to affirm the right of government entities in seeking legal damages from corrupt officials. In that specific litigation, Essex County sued First Fidelity Bank because one of its corporate officers had bribed former county treasurer Joseph P. Galluzzi in steering municipal bond contracts to the bank. Larkin made the revelation in responding to public criticism from Larry S. Loigman, an outspoken township resident and lawyer. He wanted to know why township officials have not expressed outrage at a federal judge's decision to sentence the former mayor to 58 months in prison, which Loigman considers too lenient. I was wondering who it was on behalf of the township that sent any sort of request to the judge for a more severe sentence?'' Loigman asked. Did anyone? ... Make any appearance before the judge and advise the judge of the harm that that despicable thief did to the township, to the interests of the township, to the residents of the township, to the government of the township, to the employees of the township? Did anyone make that representation to (the) judge?'' Loigman said the township ought to pursue Weldon in civil court for defrauding the people of Ocean Township in order to recoup financial damages, a case Loigman himself had pursued on his own in 2006 without success. Lawyer Stephen N. Dratch said his firm still wants to help Ocean Township and pointed to the Essex County case, which set legal precedent in New Jersey. We sued First Fidelity Bank on the grounds they should disgorge the money regarding the deals, it was ill-gotten gains,'' Dratch said. Dratch said his firm first offered to represent Ocean Township against Weldon in order to recover the $64,000 he received in bribes a few years ago. The firm offered to take the case on a contingency basis for one third of whatever judgment was awarded should the township prevail. However, after some preliminary meetings with former Township Manager David R. Kochel, Dratch said the firm never heard from municipal officials again. The offer still stands, he said. The town will do
[AsburyPark] Re: Conditional release for Werner today
I have to agree! Kudos, to Tommy, Frank D, Debbie and the Group, for supporting Werner. There IS a God! Pressure from you Kevin, Maureen, Tommy and Frank, did it! Thanks and Applause to you all! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let Us Rejoice... First: Tom Deseno, Attorney at Law should get a round of applause. Second: I am impressed with the outcry from the Asbury Park Group and appalud you all. Third: This may be a good time to consider organizing a group to prevent these events from reoccuring, I a willing to liason for Long Branch and I think bringing the two cities together would make us more of an action force for proper development and the rights of present property owners. Fourth: I suggest meeting at The Adriatic at 8 PM to welcome home Werner properly. I will wait to see how many agree to the release party and I will attend and buy him a decent meal. Kevin Brown Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Conditional release for Werner today
They're Cherry-Picking, like the Bushes do! If the crime don't fit, they must acquit!Johnny Cochran --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't it the building inspectors job to drive around the city and report on violations he observes? That's his job. That's what we pay him for. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: Don't know if it has violations. Noboday lives there and would not look safe to live in but I am not a building inspector either. You can report it to the city if you wish. - Original Message From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 7, 2007 3:42:57 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Conditional release for Werner today --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ ... wrote: Being an eyesore and having building code violations are different. You can take a photo and send to the city. They will have to act. Does the Metropolitan Hotel have violations? That looks safe to you? __ __ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Werner Jailing, make have caused a curse to come upon the City
In light of what's happened to Werner, That's deep! So now what? Does the bulding owner get the punisment Werner received? Hypocrisy in action! Stay tuned! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BREAKING NEWS: Building collapse in Asbury Park Posted by the _Asbury Park Press_ (http://www.app.com/) on 09/7/07 ASBURY PARK â There has been a partial building collapse at 719 Mattison Avenue in the city. Firefighters and police are on the scene and have transported one victim to the hospital, according to fire officials. The partial collapse occured at a three-story commercial building. More information is pending. -- Staff Report I want to see Judge Apostalou remand the owners of that property to Jail... right now!!! This Werner depravation of liberty for code may have just put a curse on Asbury... I hope not ** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: ASBURY PARK FAILED GERTRUDE HAWK!
I can't help myself! I'm ROTFLMAO! Know what I mean? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Here we go again. He's on a roll. Enjoy everybody! You got him going. When will you learn? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Prayer and Sacrifice
Mario, I have photos of a soldier, hugging his box, from Monmouth/Ocean County, Blue Star Mothers and emails from him and his mother. They write: We didn't know that people like you existed! It makes whatever it took to see that smile, worth it! If someone tells me how, I'll post his picture, where you all can see it! If a picture is worth a thousand words, then this is it! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/3/2007 8:48:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are groups: Blue Star Mothers of America, a support group, that constantly gathering supplies, such as lotions,... are in constant need, for lack of these items being readily available The media would have us believe that Cheny's Halliburton was tending to all those needs via their no-bid contracts. Some of the clips they used to show made it look like Main Street, Vacationland. I saw a clip of that once and wondered if they really believe it themselves! Main Street, Vacationland! It's a bald-faced lie! They beg us for deodorant, toothpaste, replacement brushes, kleenex and baby wipes! The women GI's are sent feminine hygiene products, enough to last 3 months, or until the next box arrives! I feel a cry coming on. Sorry! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Nancy Shields is working on the Werner Story
I believe you're right! I plan on NEVER going again! You're labeled a troublemaker! Look what happened to Rita and now The Wonder Bar! They pay you back for speaking out or speaking up! Don't know that I'll post too much here, also! The powers that be, read this group and if you're not on THEIR right side, you're toast! Intimidation, DOES work and I just feel, I can't fight anymore! You CAN fight City Hall, but at what price? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - I'd go with the beleif he is where is because of public presence. Technically I was arrested in Ocean Twp for failure to pay property taxes several years ago. It could of been because of a check bounced on the wrong account, but I covered it late...on principal. The date on the summons was also altered. I represented myself and it was thrown out. It must of been the pile of papers and receipts I had. So I learned from that experience as a landlord, never go to a council meeting, never volunteer for anything locally and just keep quiet. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Airman Photo
New photo has been uploaded to this group. It's called Patriotic Pride. A thank you from a grateful airman, on receipt of his care package from the Blue Star Moms. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Release Werner Now!
I did view the webcast on electricnews.com and it was right on point, but, the broadcast also lambasts this group for various personal reasons. I don't know. I think we're a pretty good group. I've been involved for almost 3 years now, taken my lumps, fallen and got back up, but this is Asbury, Our Town! I didn't appreciate the remarks made about this group, but I don't have to put up with the power in Long Branch! We're here to discuss all things Asbury Park! We go off on a tangent, sometimes and it was always Werner, who threw water on our faces and we got back to discussing redevelopment, the schools, the council and whatever else is relevant HERE! I really think Maureen should look into webcasting, because it's the next new thing! The sound is remarkably good and Rev. Kev's visuals were interesting too! Even has a phone in line! Glenn, you're the greatest! Thanks! S --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a great issue, we release criminals on bail, but we sentence code violators to serve 45 days. They could have given Werner an anklet, like they did with Paris Hilton. The people of Asbury park need to scream at the city father's to let Werner Out! Mr. Brown, Thanks! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Long, Detailed, and Documented
Mario, I got light-headed reading this! Hilarious, in a word! If the so-called 4th Estate had been REPORTING the news, instead of BEING the news and so wrapped up in celebrity, to keep from doing their JOB, we'd be in better shape than we are. There ARE people, who believe what they see on TV and in the print media, which is why the STAR, is one of the largest newpapers on the planet! When an air-head like Hilton, is so attention depraved and Beyonce, shaking, until I throw up, you laugh when 1. Hilton goes to jail and 2. Beyonce falls on that big A** of hers! Is it news? Must be, cause it's ALL we hear and see. Someone is hell bent on keeping us distracted and keeping the REAL news somewhere else, which is why I belong to blogs and rely on my news ELSEWHERE! My generation questioned authority. I haven't changed and those in command, are hell bent on keeping me and a lot of others, quiet! Can you spell, W-E-R-N-E-R? That's what I'm talking about! The shadow government is at work! Don't know who the shadow is? It's the REAL government, which is much like the KGB and MI-5! Think I read too much? I don't read enough, but I know there is a silent hand, that crushes truth to the ground; deaths that look like suicides, people disappearing, air plane crashes and poisoning on a grand scale, that is undetectable! Ask the guy who was poisened from Russia! Believe me? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One could say that among our citizens, those voters and non-voters who swallowed this without question bear much of the responsibility for what's happening today.Click here: Going After Gore, by Evgenia Peretz: Politics Power: vanityfair.com http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/10/gore200710?printabl\ e=truecurrentPage=all Excerpt: Going After Gore Al Gore couldn't believe his eyes: as the 2000 election heated up, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and other top news outlets kept going after him, with misquotes (I invented the Internet), Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury historian gets 45 days in jail for contempt of court
Thank You so much, for this post! S --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to underscore what Frank has said in his posting re. the APP report and Dan in his postings, as well. Also, I just remarked to someone today that I can't figure out why Nancy Shields doesn't go into PR. She'd make a great public relations person for the city and/or waterfront developers. Thirdly, Werner called to ask that I post something to thank all of those who have come forward to express their outrage at this sentence and general sympathy for his situation. He is very heartened by the outpourings of support and offers to help him finish the renovations. He was moved to a dorm setting today with about 60-70 beds in a huge room with a common area in the middle. And he's got his own PIN number so that he doesn't have to borrow a fellow inmate's PIN to make his collect calls. And, he is being represented now. Tommy DeSeno has taken his case. Tommy plans to file an appeal, then ask the judge for a stay of the sentence -- all tomorrow. Let's wish him much success. Maureen Maureen Nevin Asbury Radio -The Radio Voice of Asbury Park -Silenced by the FCC, but why?? 88.1FM - 6 Years on the Air!! Would've been 7 this July... Asbury's Own Live Talk Show Listen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM or Ooops, see below... Listen Live or Later on the Web _http://www.asburyradio.com/_ (http://www.asburyradio.com/) Call the show 732-775-0821 oops, not since the FCC visited this litte 100watt station - four times!! Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463 Still can call this number... Speak up - It's America!! ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Release Werner Now!
I stand by my statement. Priorities? Yours or ours? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: I did view the webcast on electricnews.com and it was right on point, but, the broadcast also lambasts this group for various personal reasons. I don't know. I think we're a pretty good group. I've been involved for almost 3 years now, taken my lumps, fallen and got back up, but this is Asbury, Our Town! I didn't appreciate the remarks made about this group, but I don't have to put up with the power in Long Branch! We're here to discuss all things Asbury Park! We go off on a tangent, sometimes and it was always Werner, who threw water on our faces and we got back to discussing redevelopment, the schools, the council and whatever else is relevant HERE! I really think Maureen should look into webcasting, because it's the next new thing! The sound is remarkably good and Rev. Kev's visuals were interesting too! Even has a phone in line! Glenn, you're the greatest! Thanks! S --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseykev@ wrote: Here is a great issue, we release criminals on bail, but we sentence code violators to serve 45 days. They could have given Werner an anklet, like they did with Paris Hilton. The people of Asbury park need to scream at the city father's to let Werner Out! Mr. Brown, Thanks! I did not lambast the group, I made a comment about priorities. As for Maureen - I have asked her to consider joining the electric news as a co - host handling Asbury park News. Obviously I am concentrated on Long Branch. I have made a few overtures towards a number of people, and could never figure out why no one wanted to take me up on my offer. I am sure it's some silly notion that I am a crazed, zealot that would make you both accept Jesus or conform to conservatism. LOL I have gained a lot of ground in the video broadcasting medium, and would like to enhance it for the Shore. It was an opportunity without funding committments, because I own everything necessary to produce the show. So, let me revisit the issue once again. If there is anyone out there who feels like they would want to come on board of the electric news and co -anchor or do field reports call me or drop me an email. Kevin Brown Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: RNC Talking Points
Wasn't going to comment on Vick, but what's the difference between Vick and Dick Cheney, on a controlled hunt, where he shot his friend in the face and was with 2 women, neither of which, were their wives? Mind you, I DON'T condone any of the activities going on, on his property! I think Vick, whose relatives were staying there, are the culprits in all this, ratted HIM, out, because it was on Vick's property and Vick, is taking the slam for them! Rather than see his relatives go to jail, they were lured into getting a deal from the authorities that, if they delivered Vick, they'd get off, which is how this probably worked! What if Vick and his relatives went deer hunting, as many men do in this region and bear hunting, too? Would any of you be so judgemental? NONE of you know the REAL story! Vick IS a prominent Black Football Player, that YOU probably think he doesn't deserve. It's the OJ syndrome! 9 out of 10 of you think OJ did it! I don't, but feel he knows who did! You weren't there, either! Judge lest ye be judged, is an old adage. Just as Sen. Craig called Clinton a naughty boy, hypocritically, WHO is the naughty boy, now? Just an observation of how white America thinks, when a prominent Black, is pre-judged. Remember, I don't condone torturing ANY animals! Let the flames begin! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the fact that he was running a gambling ring and financing the entire operation doesn't bother you at all? The fact that he enjoyed engaging in torture doesn't bother you (oh sorry, you're a neocon so that one probably doesn't bother you) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: The AP Press ran a column today that raised the same issue about how we treat humans and animals in association with the Vick controversey. Yes, I say let him play football, since the rule in the NFL is that there is no lifetime ban for killing people (see Little and Lewis). Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: RNC Talking Points
Edited for brevity: Not playing the race card. You'd have a chip as long as the boardwalk, if you were black, too! Following up. My son, 45, told me that he knows all about Vick and company. He said Vick comes from that environment, the gansta rappers, gangs, drugs, etc. When he became a millionaire, the money didn't gain him, the sophistication, needed, to behave, like someone with some sense! Said that Vick's mother, is also notorious, entering the stadium wearing a jersey with a full length mink coat, acting like a hoochie mama! Well! I stand corrected for sounding like the church lady or Emily Litella, of Saturday Night Live! NEVER MIND! Apologies to all! Not too arrogant, to say I'm sorry! My son, has always been aware of what goes on in the sports world, having played that sport and is a NCAA Champion, when he ran track at Stockton, in South Jersey. Reads Street and Smith and is a walking statistician, on all sports! I normally don't engage him, because he never stops talking, once he gets started! Again, sorry! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The difference is, Vick has admitted to participating in killing the dogs, which include drowning and electrocution. I think it's sad that you are playing the race card on this one. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: RNC Talking Points
Dear Fanny: You're no angel, either! Flame on! Opinions are like A$$-holes; everybody has one! Re-read my post, before you comment! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fannyfooster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Flamethrower, Before making comments like this please read the entire indictment. It does not matter in the least what color this POS is, he clearly is a sadistic monster and he should be away from the general population, as far away as possible. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: Wasn't going to comment on Vick, but what's the difference between Vick and Dick Cheney, on a controlled hunt, where he shot his friend in the face and was with 2 women, neither of which, were their wives? Mind you, I DON'T condone any of the activities going on, on his property! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Confined 22 hrs/day
So are you a part of the problem or the solution? That was a mean spirited, jab! Truth crushed to the earth will rise again, like the phoenix, rising! This is not Russia, this is America and if you think throwing someone in jail, is a good thing, I feel sorry for you! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury (no longer on the) Radio aslo reported: Baumgartner, a watchdog and constant critic of the city's boards and consultants, attracted the occasional fines for violations on his property on Fifth Avenue. But the summonses billowed out of control after city officials gained access to his residence following a 911 call that police in Howell interpreted to be naming Baumgartner's home address. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The People Argue, The President Visits The Troops
Mario, Just shaking my head! When people BUY what Bush is saying, I wonder if they drank the Kool-Aid? Thanks! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/3/2007 2:42:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: McClatchy... Ok, I know more about you than I need to. Another meaningless string of words, pretending to know what you don't. McClatchy is #17 corporate media company. Never accessed their news before, but looks as clean as any of the lot. _Click here: McClatchy Company profile and media properties - American media companies at MediaOwners.com_ (http://www.mediaowners.com/company/mcclatchy.html) ** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Rev. Kev,... Help Me Out
If you build it, they will come! That includes me! A Feel-Good Church! I like that! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/2/2007 11:26:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People do not gain 501 (c) 3 status, charitable and religious organization do. I understand that, but the title reverend permits one to establish such an entity. And these folks explain much in layman's terms for me . Click here: Tax Reporting for Houses of Worship http://www.aicpa.org/pubs/jofa/may2006/mcnair.htm You can not mix apples with oranges, this is why the orange has the right not to be red or green to remain a bona fide orange. Nor is the apple blamed for the orange not tasting the same, even though they are both fruit. Gobbledygook (or the conservative sin of relativism)? Or, wait! Critics of the government not to intimidated by its supporters because they're all citizens? to remain a bona fide orange. But I really am still curious what a bona fide religious group is? I remember all those contentious cases with scientology, marijuana churches, churches requiring ritual slaughter of animals in Manhattan, something about an enema church in AP, et al. If you'd listed all the various credentialing places, I might consider enrolling. I've already had over 16 years of theological instruction. Then I could pontificate from a pulpit somewhere instead of just here. And I could Bless this and Bless that, and Bless Here and There I'd like to Bless all Asbury Park residents and home owners, many who've made this town their home through bad and worse times and are praying for this Renaissance. I'd Bless residents who report good news and those who are gadflies and critics in the best interest of AP. If I found a building suitable for a church, I would not declare any tax exemptions: Christ said to pay Caesar. I'd Bless non-residents who still sincerely believe AP can work. If the zoning board hassled me, I'd preach wherever people would listen; not waste taxpayers' money in litigation. I'd preach about Hell, Fire and Damnation to outsiders who post here usually to reiterate crime stories and their own politics, belying their charity and righteousness. And I'd even be able to sign off as Rev. Mario God Bless us, one and ALL. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Ocean Grove meeting dominated by same sex marriage issue
You've just described the Right-Winged Republican Agenda, while they hypocritically point fingers at those they deem the enemy, bad for America, Family Value-less, while these so-called straights, fornicate their A$$es off! Same bunch that impeached Clinton, while they were having affairs, while married, molesting pages, getting kickbacks from lobbyists and calling themselves christians! If Ocean Grove is part of Neptune, why is Randy Bishop, putting up with this? He's Neptune's openly gay, Deputy Mayor and lives over there! I really had thought OG, had come into the 21st Century! Well, bring in the ACLU! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got back from Ocean Grove, where I attended their annual meeting, which was dominated by protest and comments about the issue of same sex marriage in the boardwalk pavilion. Frank Pallone Jr. was there arguing that the association has received federal and state money for the boardwalk and other maintenance, and thus should follow the rules pertaining to other public places. What I hear is prejudice hiding behind bureacracy. Here's what kills me; The Came Meeting Association will allow any straight couple to be married there. So, if you are straight, and lets say you've done things like rape, murder, molest children, be dishonest...any of the things that we all find reprehensible, and you find Jesus, and apologize...because you are straight, you are fine. Now, I'm not saying that the straight community is filled with horrible people. It isn't. But. If you are gay, and you love the same God as the straight people, and found the same Jesus, no matter how else you've lived your life...you can't get married there. Because you are gay. That's prejudice. So, the most horrible staight person could get married there, but a person who's only crime in the eyes of the church is being gay will be rejected. Prejudice, plain and simple. Not only that, but if you reduce this to the basic argument that one kind of sex is fine, but the other is a sin...then that is ridiculous. There is plenty of crazy sex going on in the straight world. But no, that's ok. I won't even go into the details of this thought. Use you imagination. The overwhelming feeling at the meeting was that very many people feel like this fight has caused Ocean Grove a great amount of damage. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Prayer and Sacrifice
Mario, There are groups: Blue Star Mothers of America, a support group, that councils spouses of their needs, financially and morally, The USO, The American Legion Auxiliary, VFW and their Auxiliary, Gold Star Mothers, Navy League and America Supports You, which is run by the DoD. We are constantly gathering supplies, such as lotions, soaps, baby wipes, razors and feminine hygiene products and snacks, as Exchanges in Iraq and Afghanistan, are in constant need, for lack of these items being readily available. Not a victory garden, or bond purchases, as we had during WWII and Viet Nam, but many people I know, still buy bonds through payroll deductions. You are correct, that the families and the soldiers are the ones suffering and being sacrificed, while those who have already served, do help by sending care packages over every month, bearing the costs, through donations. I purchased a case of hotel shampoos for $10.00, from a thrift store. It was worth $40.00 and had over 200, 1-ounce bottles. That along with money donated to purchase all of the other items, add up and are largely donated by retired workers, like me. We then have sorting parties, to pack the items. Over 50 cases a month are sent overseas, marked Any Soldier or Female Soldier, when feminine hygiene products are sent. It may not seem like much, but the letters and photos we receive, are worth it. This group did a lot of good, when AP had its' Katrina Drive right after the storm. I met many of the incredible people in this group and those who know me, know that I'm eternally grateful! We come through, when needed, but Bush Co., just don't know how this war is going to affect citizens, for decades to come! It's a shame! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/3/2007 5:21:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To the troop himself I imagine it means a great deal. To go into battle, to kill and risk being killed, I think I would want to feel a closeness with God. I would want to be sure in my cause being just, to be able to reconcile the killing with my religeous belief. I didn't allude at all to any soldier's private religious belief. Don't twist my words. The God Bless and the Colors can be hijacked by those claiming to support the troops. In fact, no one, except the soldiers and their families, is supporting in terms of sacrifice Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Iraq WMD's found!! At the UN!!!!!!
One comment: Those who shout for war, have never experienced it! Want war? Strap on a uniform and SERVE, then! Why be a desk jockey like Rove, Cheney and that rootin, tootin' cowboy, Bush, who ALL dodged the bullet, by deferring 5 times like Cheney, cause he had BETTER things to do, just not serve, like Rove or go AWOL and wear costumes, like BUSH? Hell, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/31/2007 2:02:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To pull out before the War on Terror is complete tells the families of the honored dead, they died in vain. For what, so the deomcrats can win the Presidency in '08? It does not demean Americans who have died to say that their lives were wasted. It demeans them and all of us to continue a lie because we do not have the courage to face the truth. The death of Americans in unnecessary wars is not made more meaningful by playing games of rhetoric. The mothers and fathers of soldiers who have lost their loved ones are not made whole by continuing a lie. If their lives have been lost and that loss brings us to realize our mistakes then their lives will not have been in vain. But if we fail to realize the real waste of a generation of young and brave and patriotic Americans, then we shall have failed those very same young people. If we hide under illusions of rhetoric and the comfort of denial, we haven't helped anyone anywhere. As Senator Kerry himself once famously said http://www.richmond.edu/~ebolt/history398/JohnKerryTestimony.html , `How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?' In other words, how do we sit by and do nothing when American lives are being wasted? When we can't even say it? http://tinyurl.com/22puf4 http://tinyurl.com/22puf4 Kerry was right. And so were the French who knew from their experience in Algiers about wars which can't be won militarily. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: RNC Talking Points
Hypocrites, ALL! These Gay-Bashing, Racists, Republicans, know which buttons to push, to furthur their agendas of fear! Keep them scared, VERY scared. Americans, who don't read, or remember the past dastardly deeds, of this former Southern Democrats, before 1964, have used these same tactics over the centuries, since the end of the civil war, to reinstitute a country, which uses race-baiting lies, to keep Blacks and others they deem, undesirable from attaining, the American Dream! When jobs and factories were being shut down and shipped overseas, they only saw dollar profits. What has occurred, is production of shoddy goods, food, dangerous toys and even American Flags, that say Made in China! Every week, we are bombarded, with yet, another dangerous toy, food, fake drug, being shipped by the ton, to citizens, who can ill afford to ingesting plastic, dogs being poisoned, or our kids, endangered by lead paint and magnets, being swallowed by a stupid, gullible public, who voted for these demons in office! Can I sell you a bridge to nowhere? Your tax dollars, at work! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/31/2007 6:17:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Larry Craig's bathroom behavior and the right wing -- then and now: _http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/08/28/craig/_ (http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/08/28/craig/) Bull's eye from the above: The same political movement that impeached Bill Clinton and which has _made a living_ (http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/10/bush-followers-outraged-over-political.html) exploiting issues of private morality for political gain insisted that Rogers had reached a new and despicable low in politics even by reporting this. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: RNC Talking Points
So prove you're a Patriot and sign up! I'm sure they can use you! My son, who is your age speaks fluent Korean, having served a year over there in Military Intelligence, so go ahead, Make my Day! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand the folks that insist that we needed a connection between Saddam and 9/11 to invade Iraq. After 9/11 the President didn't say we are going after just the guys who were involved in 9/11. He didn't say that we would leave the rest of the terrorists in the world alone. The President said we would go after all those involved in international terrorists, everywhere in the world. He even famously said, you are with us or with the terrorists. Saddam Hussein was involved in International Terrorism, including against the United States. He also harboured international terroists. That's a good enough reason to take him out. - Abu Abbas was the leader of the group that hijacked the Achille Lauro and killed American Leon Klinghoffer. Where'd we find him? In Iraq when we invaded in 2003. - Abu Nidal was one of the world's more effective terrorists. He killed people all over the world. It was he who planned to kill Oliver North's family in Virginia (it was North's job to get him on behalf of the US). Iraq allowed his group to be based there. Where'd was he finally killed? Baghdad, 2002, HIS HOME. - al-Zarqawi tried to blow up hotels in the 1990's that he believed were frequented by Americans. He became the al-Qeada leader in Iraq in 2001 (you all remember al-qeada, and what they did on September 11, 2001, right?). Working from his Iraq base in 2002, he killed Lawrence Foley, American diplomat to Jordan. He planned a NATO attack from Iraq. It was he who beheaded American Nick Berg on video. He fought against US soldiers in Afghanistan BEFORE we invaded Iraq. In Iraq he killed thousands through bombing campaigns, including US soliders. When he was injured he treated at Saddam's state run hospital. We eventually killed him in IRAQ, where Saddam allowed the AL-QEADA leader to operate. - Saddam Hussien paid the families of suicide bombers $25,000.00 each. He is estimated to have made more than $10 million in payments. Figure out the number of bombers, multiply that by the number of innocents the bombers blew up (including Americans in Isreal) and that makes Saddam on awfully big player in Internation terrorism, including agaist Americans. -Saddam's regime attempted the assassination of former President George H.W. Bush. For those of you that think America should not have taken out this international terrorts, who not only committed acts of terrorism against he US and our people but harbored and paid those that did, to I say, you are wrong. You must not want to fight terrorists, or you just didn't know the facts. I'll let you pick one. To anyone on this board that said our soldiers in Iraq died in vain, shame on you. They died protecting you. How dare you dishonor your portectors. Saddam told Valerie Plame's husband that the US will not have the guts to see 10,000 soldiers die in the desert. He over-estimazted the courage of some on this board by a great deal. Good Bless the troops, our President and this great fight to defeat terrorists all over the world, whether they were involved in 9/11 or just applauded it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Iraq WMD's found!! At the UN!!!!!!
We are apparently on the same page, as always! I saw this broadcast too! Incredible, huh? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/31/2007 2:02:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You have a lot of nerve complaining about a powerful force of American soldiers bringing the war to the very geographical location that all these plots eminae fromyou better pay more heartfelt attention to the Blood Limb costs associated with war. The words of those who sent those soldiers to that location at the cost of their blood and limbs: Dick Cheney during an interview at the conservative American Enterprise Institute in 1994Q: Do you think the U.S., or U.N. forces, should have moved into Baghdad? A: No. Q: Why not? A: Because if we'd gone to Baghdad we would have been all alone. There wouldn't have been anybody else with us. There would have been a U.S. occupation of Iraq. None of the Arab forces that were willing to fight with us in Kuwait were willing to invade Iraq. Once you got to Iraq and took it over, took down Saddam Hussein's government, then what are you going to put in its place? That's a very volatile part of the world, and if you take down the central government of Iraq, you could very easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off: part of it, the Syrians would like to have to the west, part of it -- eastern Iraq -- the Iranians would like to claim, they fought over it for eight years. In the north you've got the Kurds, and if the Kurds spin loose and join with the Kurds in Turkey, then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey. It's a quagmire if you go that far and try to take over Iraq. The other thing was casualties. Everyone was impressed with the fact we were able to do our job with as few casualties as we had. But for the 146 Americans killed in action, and for their families, it wasn't a cheap war. And the question for the president, in terms of whether or not we went on to Baghdad, took additional casualties in an effort to get Saddam Hussein, was how many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth? Our judgment was, not very many, and I think we got it right. The so-called liberal media never reported those Cheney words. A C-Span viewer spotted it recently and posted it on YouTube: Click here: YouTube - Cheney '94: Invading Baghdad Would Create Quagmire C-SPAN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I = And junior should have been as wise a papa:Why We Didn't Remove Saddam -- George Bush [Sr.] and Brent Scowcroft Our prompt withdrawal helped cement our position with our Arab allies, who now trusted us far more than they ever had. We had come to their assistance in their time of need, asked nothing for ourselves, and left again when the job was done. Full text from 1998 Click here: Reasons Not to Invade Iraq, by George Bush Sr. - Global Policy Forum - UN Security Council http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/history/2003/0419reaso\ nsnot.htm = Anyone using the war for party gain should be deported. Some would say impeach first. Cordiali saluti, Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Jailed by AP Judge
Thanks Frank! I found this report chilling! Does this incident sound similar to someone else leaning on Freedom of Speech? Very oppressive and MEAN-spirited, to throw him in jail, for what? Can someone tell me? Terry Weldon, won't spend this much time, for all of the bribes he's taken! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is just another sad indication that the good ole boys running this town will do anything (and I mean anything) to stop people from expressing their opinions if they conflict with the conventional wisdom. What's wrong with this picture: Terry Weldon pleads guilty to bribe-taking five years ago, gets the council to buy into the Fishman plan, resigns as city manager minutes later, finally gets sentenced to 58 months, but the sentence is stayed until at least next January. He has not spent one second in jail. He was forced by our city council to accept a huge severance package, and continues to suffer the receipt of a huge annual pension. On the other hand, Werner goes to municipal court on Friday of Labor Day weekend, gets sentenced to 45 days in county jail beginning immediately, cell phone confiscated so that he is held virtually incommunicado until Saturday morning, and can only make collect calls. If you think his real offense was not fixing up his home to the satisfaction of the eyesore police, you probably need a new prescription for those myopic rose-colored glasses. This is justice, Asbury Park style, and the good old boys and their flunkies on the council (and maybe even a couple on the school board) are probably celebrating today. Werner may be a thorn in their side or a pain in their ass, but this would be happening to no one else. It is persecution, plain and simple. 30 years ago there was a mass exodus of folks marching out of Asbury Park and to neighboring towns, especially Ocean Township, whose former Mayor until recently was, ironically, the aforementioned Weldon. There are signs that another shift across the bridge to Wanamassa is beginning. The good ole boys will probably say good riddance, because they have known only power politics, cronyism, nepotism, and corruption for generations. Many of their predecessors escaped the pokey by succumbing to the conqueror worm. Unfortunately, the longterm residents, especially the poor, have tolerated it; and a few in that community have even participated in, and profited by it. Considering the folks who are persecuting Werner, he should wear this episode as a Thoreau-like badge of honor. That is small comfort, however. Werner already has the distinction of having been fired by Weldon as one of that felon's final acts of infamy. I sincerely hope that the treatment meted out to Werner does not have a chilling effect on those who are trying their best to make a difference. Shoveling against the tide may be a labor too debilitating, even on this glorious weekend. Frank D'Alessandro Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Rev. Kev,... Help Me Out
Mario, When all else fails, send in the Jesuits! At the age of 12, I was baptized in the Spirit, or as Black Catholics say, your BIG Communion, where you are slightly slapped on the cheek, dying a symbolic death for Christ, then you kiss the Bishop's ring! Bring back any memories? Jesus, was the ultimate outsider! A Jewish man, probably, a Palestinian, since he was born in Bethlehem, tried in Jerusalem and cruicfied at Calvary. Accused by His own, due to ignorance, that He, in fact, was the Messiah, but to fulfill the phrophacies, went to His death, to save ALL of us. Called The Greatest Story Ever Told, by those of us who believe in Jesus's teaching, we often lose sight of the fact that no matter, which form of Christianity, we aspire to, be it Roman Catholicism, to Southern Baptist, we often forget we are Christians, or followers of Christ. Jesus said, Love thy enemies! Every morning, without fail, I light a candle, to curse the darkness and do a series of prayers in Thanksgiving, for having awaken, once more. I say all that, to say this: It seems that Rev. Kev and those who beat the drums of war, if you're so intent on supporting war, sign up and justify your support! You don't have to display a flag in your window, with a Gold Star, in the center! You don't have to anguish over your lost loved ones or tend to a Veteran, with lost limbs and those suffering mental problems, called PTSD's. All of that My country right or wrong, is why so many countries HATE us! If there were no Al-Quaida, we'd invent one! As the crooks and liars, exit daily, from the Bush White House, amid scandal, ask yourself, why? The reasons are obvious. Americans are tired of war; endless war, endless fear and unrelenting grimness! My generation has already PAID its' dues with Viet-Nam, another stupid war, fought over nothing, from people, who never attacked US! Iraq was NOT responsible for 9-11, the Saudis were! That's all, I have to say! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/31/2007 9:05:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:GOD IS A CONSERVATIVE, MY PROOF, LIGHTNING HASN'T STRUCK YOU YET! Help me out: The above may be so, but using ALL CAPS is not convincing Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Google Maps added to...
Oakdorf, Been using this feature since its' inception. Fascinating isn't it? When I saw it and thought of a statement about the US, not knowing where Bin Laden is, this feature makes me wonder! If a sattelite can read a license plate, from outer space, Bin Laden can and has been found, just as Saddam was found! Asbury is beautiful, close up! Watched Anthony Bourdain, do Asbury. This tape was from 2003, when George was still running the old Ho-jo's! Made me nostalic, for his egg salad! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://asburyboardwalk.com/directions.htm Actually, if you have a website, a business website etc, you should add this VERY SIMPLE feature to your website. Go to google maps, type in your address, get your map, click for your html code, copy and paste to your website. Takes all of about 2 minutes. Nice, free feature of Google and fully functional - zoom, move, etc. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Great Iraq Swindle
This isn't the half of it, while the government's asleep at the wheel! When Clinton was in office, he was hounded ad nauseum, even though Clinton ended his 8 years, with a budget in the black, warned Bush of impending danger, which he chose to ignore, gave tax breaks to the rich, and has the most unqualified, cronys, running Departments, for which they have no expertise. If this were a Democrat, he'd be boiled in oil or burned at the stake. So much for compassionate conservatism, while thousands, of American Children go to bed hungry every night. Katrina victims, still waiting to be rescued and bodies still being found, well remains, at 9-11 sites! What a country! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This article in Rolling Stone will make you sick with anger how our tax dollars are being stolen with the acquiescence of the Bush administration. Enjoy. http://tinyurl.com/2y6e6p Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: ACE OF CAKES
I saw the show and there was cake at the base. The animals were made of gum paste or fondant. Not knocking what you said. Just thought you should watch the show first! I was really impressed when I saw it. Reminded me of cakes I had made for my kids. At their first birthday, I had a similar cake made and the animals were plastic with straws used, with a paper canopy. Very similar and no where near the cost! When I moved to Jersey and had my last child, her cake came from Friedman's in Belmar. Same cake, in fact! Buttercreme frosting instead of fondant! I thought the cost was worth it, after seeing the work, that went into making it. Just me, I guess. It took me back to another time, when kids, actually listened to adults. Love you anyway, man! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It must be a bad joke. A cake that didn't even have any cake in it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. It just gets better and better. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Bid Rig:
I can't understand why this is re-running. This is an also-ran series, based on info, over 8 years old. What did City Manager, now deceased, Wilbert Russell, have to so with anything? It wasn't until T. Weldon, became City Manager, that Ocean Twp., became involved. Photos shown, are deceiving, because 3 in the group printed, are dead, for one! The king-pin, (Konvitz), the invisible hand, was found to be unable to be prosecuted, due to age or dementia, 1 person mentioned, has served his time and has moved on and it appears that elections are coming up in the near future and throws a pall over anyone even thinking about running, etc. Those already in the council, ought to be careful, how and who they deal with and why. Is an invisible hand moving the Press, to reprint this like it's new or something? The only person to have benefitted from this scandal, is T. Weldon and is still walking around and isn't going anywhere, it appears. The articles printed, don't tell half of the truth, whatever THAT, is! There's these articles and then there's the truth! Politics, is a dirty business and the ones lambasting others, need to watch their step, also, lest THEY rub someone the wrong way and get accused also. Seems like all of those boards, (zoning/planning/etc.), are vulnerable to being manipulated too! Caveat: Don't serve, unless you can't be bought! If anyone in this town thinks they are untouchable, think again! Many innocent people are investigated, unbeknownst, because they happen to associate with certain people, groups, etc. All I can say is, keep what you know, to yourself! Old news, IMHO! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the press on vacation? No new news?? Isn't Konvitz dead? Can't the guy rest? Boring story especially since alomsot everyone is still running around. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
Other cities, major and minor, also have this type of access. Emailed the contact us, area and asked for details, unless someone in the group, knows, already! There ARE geniuses, among us. What an opportunity this would be, not only for our youth, but the seniors, like myself and the rest of the know it alls, out there! Just kidding! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ Radio waves do not respect City limits. Someone has to pay for the network. It is currently privately owned. If it were subsidized by the means suggested, perhaps login/password info could be given upon request to city residents ? Or the organizations could purchase it, or set up their own network. A completely free system is very idealistic. Any examples of one? Werner The Buffalo area has one. I think it is free http://www.buffalowifi.org/ There is free wi-fi in Bryant Park in Manhattan http://www.bryantpark.org/amenities/wireless.php I could go on. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
Wonderful improvement! Thanks! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apchrisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hardly a high school kid. I read the message on this board and replaced 2 pictures with current versions. Later this week, I will take some pictures to replace the others. I have some from the winter but I would rather see current images. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: Someone should make sure our yahoo group is on the site. Then we would get some real outside posters. Our numbers might even go from 400 to 800 or 10 to 20. I like the two picture AsburyChris has put up, not bad for a kid in high school. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
It's an almost decent assessment, but the photos, definitely should be replaced! No doubt! I think the Council, should place their own comments, don't you? The piece doesn't do Asbury enough justice, IMHO! I saw a jewel, no, the Pearl, I envision, when I talk about AP! I was impressed to no end, with all of the activity and beauty, I surveyed. I am never one, to talk to strangers, and I found myself, talking to anyone, who would listen! People were smiling, enjoying the ocean, the boards; everything. I was happy as all get out and sorry, I hadn't taken advantage of the beautiful place, we call home, before! Yeah, yeah, I know, we aren't THERE, yet, but you have to crawl, before you walk, as my dad, always said! There are REAL possibilities here! Now, if we could just get those cameras! Me, who is a civil libertarian, stating this! I must be getting old! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia 1. Just some observations I've made recently. Reuters reports that Wikipedia is now the top online news and information destination, according to Nielsen//NetRatings. Online encyclopedia Wikipedia has added about 20 million unique monthly visitors in the past year. In May, Wikipedia had 46.8 million unique visitors, up 72 percent from June 2006, NetRatings said. Wikipedia also has finished on top of the news and information category every month this year -- ranking ahead of Landmark Communications' Weather Channel site by an increasing margin -- topping out with a disparity of about 10 million visitors in May. 2. As I understand it, the rank of results at Google is based on what sites users are visiting. Right now, a search for Asbury Park will show Wikipedia ranked as number 3 or 4 out of approximately 2,000,000 hits. 3. Here is the main entry about our city: Click here: Asbury Park, New Jersey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbury_Park%2C_New_Jersey Overall, not fully representative of The Rising of Asbury Rising. 4. Here are the current comments at the talk page for that entry at Wikipedia: Click here: Talk:Asbury Park, New Jersey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asbury_Park%2C_New_Jersey === Talk: Asbury Park, New Jersey, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Negativity Is it just me or do the photos in this suggest a lot of negativity? Crumbling, dilapidated, vacant these are all used in the captions of the photos and suggest the demise of the town. However, the article doesn't talk about a decline and, instead, focuses on redevelopment. What are the views on this? The photos seem to suggest one point of view (that Asbury Park's a piece of crap [pardon the French]) and the article suggests another (Asbury Park: Getting' better every day). Thoughts? 12 January 2007 (UTC) I totally agree-- the same thoughts passed through my head as I read it. Perhaps some new photos are in order? 17:56, 24 June 2007 (UTC) have you ever been there? talk it up all you want, this city is positively terrifying. = I'm hoping (suggesting) that the powers that be* have some content and images that more accurately reflect our progress at this time. Various news sources, marketing, and real estate interests have recently published many terrific images (E.g., Paramount Theater renovations, the new Hobo's, parades, et al.) They show us in a more positive light than what you'll see there now: the old Beirut-by-the-Sea stuff. It is not very difficult to edit a Wikipedia article or comment on the talk or discussion pages. Much easier, less time and effort than it took to carry out this year's a fantastic Road Trip event. Hoping that the professionals* with expertise in this area might add this to their To Do Lists. *(Chamber of Commerce, UEZ, City Hall/Council, Asbury Partners, Madison Marquette? Somebody?) [Photo by Andrei Jackamets] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia
I am so glad to see the huge response! Taking my niece, down to the boards, tomorrow or Wednesday; whichever day she decides to come down! In any event, just who is supposed to maintain the City's website? Is it a paid position? I used to get an email once a week, but haven't received any in a while, until the July 4th weekend, then nothing again! I really hated the picture of the old Howard Johnsons, with the peeling paint, inside the eaves. I was crushed, because like the Asbury Park De-Pressed, we're always given a less than stellar image! Thanks to all who have contributed. Now if $850K can be spent on a water park, which I think was over priced, why can't the City sink $150K, to start installing some surveillance cameras? Are we asking for too much? I am against Big Brother, but in common areas? C'mon! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Laura Jewell has access to many great photos from her own camera, the City and the developers. Maybe we should contact her to fix the Wiki. It is her job anyway, which will perhaps also get her past the Wiki editors when she makes the changes. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: The city can't ever maintain their own website. Visitors will only find dead links for Special Events, Places of Interest, Beech Cam, Downtown Cam and so much more. Poor source of information for people interested in Asbury Park. - Original Message From: 2fine4u sharon_b283@ To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 8:18:56 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia It's an almost decent assessment, but the photos, definitely should be replaced! No doubt! I think the Council, should place their own comments, don't you? _ ___ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The soundtrack to every summer Sunday night - Paradise
You're a fruit-cake, you know that? I know you're only pulling his leg, so everybody, lighten up! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Yikes. I don't know if I can take much more. Every Sunday night, Paradise has an outdoor party with a very loud DJ who plays the same terrible disco hits, Barbara Streisand and other assorted music over and over again. === Oh stop complaining, Things have never been better in the last decade. Everything is rosey and running like clockwork. The music is festive and shows activity, sounds good to me. It's complainers likeyou holding Asbury Park back. LOL, ROTFL, Werner (the opinions expressed are not those of this author) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Open Letter to the AP council about a surveillance system
I couldn't agree more! You've got my vote! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today we had 2 stabbings. Yesterday we had shots fired. Information has been posted on this board about the success that a surveillance system has had in East Orange, at a very reasonable cost. Many things have improved in Asbury Park, but the ongoing street crimes threaten to undo these improvements in the public eye. The addition of more officers is a step in the right direction, but it's simply not going to be enough. I urge members of this message board to add your signature (screen name or whatever you chose) to this topic. Thank you. Jack Pitzer. Concerned citizen. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: FCC grants WYGG a huge power increase
Maureen: Catching up! I'm only a week behind, reading these! Was gone for 3 days last week and it sure is hard, catching up. Patience, is certainly a virtue! Sitting in the Salt Water, yesterday, you and Tommy came up, as topics in the conversation. All good! If you are indeed coming back on the air, please post when, for all of your fans! Would love to hear your voice, on air, again! Your featured guests, should be Tommy and Werner! How's that? Tommy, I was floored, when I read that you were defending the poor guy, that, was being crucified, by Belmar's mayor! Congratulations! You can defend me, any day! You and Maureen are 2 of my favorite poster's, in this group, no matter, that you may rub some, the wrong way. I admire the spunk, that you and Maureen possess and I defend both of your rights, to do so, in a free society. I say that, sort of tongue in cheek, considering, surveillance of citizens, who've committed no wrong, that we know of. On another subject, I was impressed at the improvements in the boardwalk, the shops, the new beach furniture, volleyball playing, sand sculptures, virtually a plethora, of things to do! I spoke to two, gentleman, sitting in those white rocking chairs, outside of the Asbury Experience, store, who told me, they dare not fall asleep, in one, to be ticketed for the same! I said, WHAT? Silly me, a place for leisure, cannot be slept upon, even if you're reading a book, another relaxing gesture, that ALWAYS, lulls, my old A$$, to sleep! What I enjoyed the most, was the diversity, I saw; young, old, gay, straight, black, white, other, ALL enjoying a perfect, summer, afternoon! What a feeling, sitting inside the old HoJo's and being able to see the Wonder Bar to my right, the ocean, to my left! A little bit of Heaven, right here, on earth! You had to be there! Werner, you were mentioned too, as were many others, in this group. The longer I'm in it, the more it almost feels like family and the goofy things, families, do. Hey, I'm glad I found this place! Thanks! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, radio881gal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Tommy - Ready to put your headset back on? Well, I hope this convinces people who said the station must've done something wrong to get thrown off the air. No charges, folks! No fines! Rewards? I'd sure say so. 1500 watts is a mighty nice peace offering. I'd like to thank Congressman Frank Pallone and his staff for coming to our defense. I'm afraid Allan may be right on one thing though - the hourly rate may have to go up from $700/mo. to reimburse the station for the equipment it'll need to adapt to the power increase. I have to say, I've been truly inspired by the inquiries from fans even now - some 9 months after we did our last show - asking us when we're going back on. That's certainly encouragement for our sponsors - eh, Tommy? I hope some benefactor(s) come(s) out to help the station make the transition - a supporter of free speech. It's funny, I think people have had a chance to realize over these months that even though they may not have agreed with all the opinions expressed, we all need the opportunity to voice them. Open dialogue is vital to a free society. I'll admit that doing the show was a huge drain on my time - and as a freelance journalist every minute you don't work is $$$ lost -- but I almost feel obligated to resume, to use or lose this priviledge that is ours. The media seems to be less and less in touch with the real world; and more and more censored each day. Now, if I could just meet a really well-off guy who doesn't mind having a partner who spends most nights at meetings, has her head in a computer monitor most of the time, gets calls at all hours, hate mail... Let me know if you meet anybody - All best, Maureen --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Does this put Maureen back on the air? Do you have a date yet Maureen? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ wrote: The FCC granted WYGG a construction permit for a power increase from 100 watts to 1500 watts ERP yesterday (7/23). The station has three years to complete the power increase. Where are all the fines the station was going to receive that I read about a few months ago??? With the exception of manufacturers, you know what you are going to be fined for before the FCC guy leaves the building. You don't know the dollar figure but you know what's coming. Mike - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:
[AsburyPark] Re: Whats wrong with these AP Press Headlines of today?
Or Page 9! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's always been the way the press prints their articles---when it occurs in AP its printed in big bold letters. When it occurs somewhere else you have to read through half the story to find out where it occurred --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Asbury Park police looking for bicyclists who assaulted city man Two teens stabbed in Asbury Park Attacker sought in sexual assault Suspect in hit-and-run followed, charged Police continue search for jewelry store robbers Police investigating death of 62-year-old Suspect accused of slashing pastor's wife Mad Hatter suspect caught Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: COME ON AP COUNCIL! We need a surveilence system, pronto.
Good eye, Denise! Great recollection, too, because I remember this post, also! Allan, your slip, is showing! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan I respect your opinion and I read alot of post here and why you would say you did not have recreation when just recently you wrote the following: When I was young I used to come here. That was back when there was an amusement park on the boardwalk and the Casino was still open (it wasn't a gambling casino, it was a fun house and carousel). And then I hit puberty and I had the hugest crush on a lifeguard who worked on the beach here. His name was Cyril and he was a Greek god and he pulled the hugest splinter out of my foot one day. I was gaga over him from that day forward. He was my knight in shining armor. And did I mention that he was hot? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: The kids need a kick in the ass. I am sick of these excuses they need to act properly otherwise jail. I did not have recreation setup. We all just played together on the block. We stayed out of trouble. At this point in Asbury history, it is time to protect and reward the good. I am not about to wait for a recreation program to have some type of effect 10 years from now. Get the cameras inplace. Get more police. Yeah, save the children by protecting them from the crap. - Original Message From: denise richardson denisemchd@ To: asburypark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 4:18:02 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] COME ON AP COUNCIL! We need a surveilence system, pronto. Why is it that every bit of recreation that is created for ap's youth you guys pick the hell out it. You complain if someone talks about establishing basketball camps and various other types of recreation. You complain about this water park. This city of Asbury for the past couple of years has had limited recreation for the children of Asbury Park. Had this recreation been in place for the past couple of years it could have possibly been a deterrent and possibly would have prevented some of these 17 and 19 years that are now stabbing, shooting and murdering each other in the streets of Asbury Park right now from getting involved in gangs and criminal mischief. When you gentlemen grew up I'm sure your parents kept you busy doing various things whether it was bible school, recreation,summer camp or possibly you were lucky enough to get a ceta job and work for the summer. What we need to do is stop and go back to the old ways of doing things which could still work in this day and age with some adjustments. A busy child has no time to get into mischief. We still have children in Asbury Park that we can save and we should do everything possible to try and save these children. The definition of we is (Parents,Grandparen ts, Aunts, Uncles, Teachers, Principals, Guidance Counselors-- -do we still have them in AP school system, Neighbors, Friends, Concerned citizens, politicians and the last resort should be the Police). Now that we already have a water park why don't you suggest loading those same children up and taking them to a museum, or a zoo, art museum or on a educational venture. How about donating your time for a couple of years instead of getting the $800,000. I am sure the water park could have been installed at a cheaper price, but now that it's here let's research the next recreation project for the children of AP and if you gentlemen would volunteer your services it will not cost as much to get it done. _ _ _ _ _ _ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games. yahoo.com/ proddesc? gamekey=monopoly herenow __ __ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: If there are 410 members of this board, where are the other 400?
Lurking! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The stats for this board show 410 members, but only about 10 of us regularly post and participate. Where's everybody else? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Blackmailer Strikes
Tommy, What a jerk this person, obviously, IS! I haven't heard anything and if I do, will email you privately, just as your private life is just that; PRIVATE! Off Limits! What a cheap shot! Are you contemplating, running for office? If you are/were, that's when lies are manufactured. You know, I'm registered to one party, but I don't let that party dictate to me! Sometimes politicians, play politics, by keeping a would-be rival, OUT of the picture, if they even THINK, you're thinking about running for something. If you know who the perp is, you should OUT him/her! I hope this problem, is resolved to your liking. There ARE evil people out there. It's a pity, when they start trying to blackmail someont they perceive as prominant and you're a rising star, so be aware of them. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Group, You may recall that a few weeks back I posted about someone who threatened to reveal personal information about me, in an attempt to intimidate me out of a lawsuit I filed on behalf of a client. Apparantly this person's search for bad or embarrassing information about me isn't going so well, so his first strike is to make something up: He has posted on the net that my wife and I are having marital difficulty. We're not. While I'm thick skinned, I feel bad for my wife, because she is a rather private person. She doesn't involve herself in my politics or my law practice at all. She's the class in the family. I just wanted let you know in case this rumor gets to you, and remind you: Be on the lookout for anyone who for whatever reason may be trying to pump you for info about me - the person mentioned this Group when he first contacted me. Since I'm an officer of the Court involved in a case, his attempts to intimidate me is a crime. Tommy. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Shades of MadMax and Thunderdome
...And I think to myself, What a Wonderful World! OOOh EHH! WoW! Thanks! I needed that! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/16/2007 8:24:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: I see people on the boardwalk and beach. I see stores open on the boardwalk. People are buying and now living in the new units. I see fewer and fewer boarded up homes. I see trees of green, red roses too I see them bloom for me and you And I think to myself, what a wonderful world I see skies of blue and clouds of white The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night And I think to myself, what a wonderfull world... The colors of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky Are also on the faces of people going by I see friends shakin' hands, sayin' How do you do? They're really saying I love you I hear babies cryin', I watch them grow They'll learn much more than I'll ever know And I think to myself, what a wonderful world Yes, I think to myself, what a wonderful world Oh yeah R.I.P. Louie ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Song Each Night on the Boardwalk
I'm in favor of it! Thanks for starting this nice interlude! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's just an idea, but maybe Asbury could promote a promanade hour on the boardwalk everynight at 7:00. Just during the summer at first. I read about something like this in a town in Italy at a boardwalk. Everynight, people from all over the area, young and old, come to see and be seen, as well as get some exercise and socialize. I think it lasts for several hours. Maybe each night they can kick it off with a song over a sound system. Nice songs like below. I see trees of green, red roses too I see them bloom for me and you And I think to myself, what a wonderful world I see skies of blue and clouds of white The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night And I think to myself, what a wonderfull world... The colors of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky Are also on the faces of people going by I see friends shakin' hands, sayin' How do you do? They're really saying I love you I hear babies cryin', I watch them grow They'll learn much more than I'll ever know And I think to myself, what a wonderful world Yes, I think to myself, what a wonderful world Oh yeah R.I.P. Louie Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Piece of Asbury Park history gone - I'm sad today
Tommy: American Legion Post 346, Gully Rd., Neptune, has their own Bocce Court, on their premises. The last Sunday in June, every year, The Legion begins it's year with a Memorial at High Point, Sussex County. The Bocce balls are brought up to High Point and Monmouth County American Legion, has a Y'all Come match! I don't know how to play, but I enjoy watching the others, yell and scream at each other, when they lose! I also enjoy eating genuine wedding soup, prepared by their Auxiliary Members! Yummm! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BYE BYE TO BOCCE MATCH BETWEEN NEIGHBORING TOWNS' OFFICIALS ENDS 30-YEAR RUN Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 07/12/07 BY CAROL GORGA WILLIAMS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU NEPTUNE CITY The signature event will conclude with matches among 52 teams Friday and Saturday at Memorial Park. The event kicks off Friday at 6 p.m. with the traditional celebrity match. The celebrity teams will be comprised of officials from Asbury Park, Belmar, Long Branch and Neptune City, among others. It is time to retire the horse's butt. After 30 years including almost a decade of rivalry between the governing bodies of Long Branch and West Long Branch the Anthony Putt-Putt Petillo National Bocce Tournament is fading into the sunset. The tournament, which began in 1977 in Asbury Park, is saying arrivederci, announced organizer Sal Caliendo of Neptune City, who added never say never about a reprieve in a written history of the Shore tradition. Caliendo still will organize mini tournaments during the year to benefit local charities. The signature event will conclude with matches among 52 teams Friday and Saturday at Memorial Park. The event kicks off Friday at 6 p.m. with the traditional celebrity match. The celebrity teams will be comprised of officials from Asbury Park, Belmar, Long Branch and Neptune City, among others. It has been two years since officials from Long Branch played officials from West Long Branch, eight years of matches made resonant because the then-mayor of West Long Branch, Paul Zambrano would challenge his brother, then-Long Branch City Councilman John Fazz Zambrano. The losers would carry home reproductions of a horse's butt. But both men have since resigned their respective positions after being caught in a corruption sting and await sentencing to prison terms. Long Branch Mayor Adam Schneider said the city challenged West Long Branch last year but the borough could not field a team. Long Branch played Neptune City instead but the magic of the rivalry was gone, said Long Branch City Councilman Anthony Giordano. In office for more than 13 years, he said nothing resonated with residents more than the annual bocce matches. Even he is at a loss to explain why. Giordano said it was an event that brought people together rooting for the home team no matter where on the political spectrum viewers fell the rest of the year. I loved it, said Schneider. It was always a good time. People wrote nice things about us, and that doesn't happen very often. There was always more coverage about the tournament than anything else we did. Those were great times, agreed Giordano. Year-round, as I talked to people throughout Monmouth County, people used to get a kick out of them, Giordano said of the rivalry games. The years we lost, it was brutal around here for weeks. We used to joke that we got a harder time from constituents when we lost the bocce match than we did in a bad budget year. The tournament is named after Caliendo's cousin, a former Asbury Park police officer and special events director for the city who passed away on the eve of the event in 1987. Then-Gov. Thomas H. Kean declared it the official bocce tournament of New Jersey, and it attracted participants from as far away as Staten Island. This year, teams are coming from remote locations like Ridgefield Park in Bergen County and Northfield near Atlantic City. The current tournament is being played in memory of Caliendo's brother, Ricky, who died Feb. 11 of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, or ALS, also referred to as Lou Gehrig's Disease. Ricky Caliendo, 52, a former Asbury Park city worker, was one of the original tournament officials in 1977. Sal Caliendo will bring out one of those original courts to serve as the championship court this year, he said, along with an original scoreboard and bocce ball set. Sal's wife, Liz, has been preparing hundreds of photographs to display at the tournament. Those photographs are available for the taking as the Caliendos, who have a collection of thousands, hope some of the attendees see themselves or a cherished relative in the displays. If you see a memory you like, take the picture, Caliendo said. Although bocce has become increasingly popular along the Shore in the
[AsburyPark] Re: Piece of Asbury Park history gone - I'm sad today
Hinge: Me too! Lord knows, if I had every slice of bread used in my kitchen, I'd be dripping in mink, instead of dirty dishes! My kids, loved them! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always thought that fluffer nutter was a sandwich that we only get to have when were kids. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube traderdube@ wrote: I'm ignorant? Werner, you fool, I am joking. I was joking. Just trying to lighten the moment. You know, your incessant flogging of everybody and everything in AP is what is ignorant. You can't see the forest for the trees and that is very sad. New topic,, Maureen's roofing question. The insurance these guys carry has nothing to do with workmanship. With roofers especially, getting the right guy is critical. Roofing is one of, if not the, most difficult jobs in construction. Difficult in 2 ways. One, it's damn hard work, two, you have to know what your doing. More roofers suffer serious accidents than any other trade. If you had a roof done and the job wasn't done right, forget trying to get it done right by the wrong guy. Find another roofer. I can give you the name of 2 roofers that know what they are doing if you like. I always thought fluffer-nutter was a term of endearment. I also remember those pool games. Lewis could play, but I believe I beat him once at straight pool in Neptune, but that could be a dream WOW...those with thin skin shouldn't live in shit houses (an old rogue saying.:) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Security Cameras: Pros Cons
As for me, I'm not adverse to cameras in common areas, e.g., Parks, parking lots, train station, bus stops, municipal, state, federal bldgs. and schools, where break-ins are common. Some years back, GreenGrove School was broken into and the thieves, who turned out to be local kids, from middle-classed homes, were caught, fined and turned over to their parents, since it was a first offense. Vandalism is also deterred, as it should have been in Library Park. It really takes the air out of one's sails, when destruction is done for spite and on purpose! It ruins the chance for ordinary people, to have a decent, quality of life. If cameras, were surveilled on heavily traveled streets, it would deter litter, if signs were placed, for ALL to see, that by depositing refuse in containers, placed around town, AP, would give the indication, that residents, take care to keep their streets safe and clean! Is it just me? Since Katrina, New Orleans has a no tolerance for litter, anywhere! It looks like Europe! Not a scrap of paper or garbage, anywhere! This is a very small place. Can't we all use a litter bag or can it? A $250 fine, is imposed, if caught! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those interested in the recent thread here regarding surveillance cameras, this link takes you to the full transcript of a Newshour segment last night. New York City Police Commisioner explains why he supports a system similar to London's Ring of Steel. Effectiveness, privacy, and acceptance issues are covered. Click here: Online NewsHour: Analysis | Security Cameras for New York | July 11, 2007 | PBS http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/july-dec07/newyork_07-11.html Security Cameras Coming to New York City [http://www.pbs.org/newshour/images/spacer.gif] [http://www.pbs.org/newshour/images/spacer.gif]New York plans to install a London-style surveillance camera system in lower Manhattan by year's end. Guests outline the reasons behind the program and the privacy issues it raises. [New York City Crime Eye] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re:Blackmail involving this Group!!!
Now THIS, I like! I echo what Frank said, too! You're much more attractive than that whiner! I'm mean, with a pen! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, Do you know who this person is? If so, out the sucker, we'll blog him back to fountains pens and scratch boards. Dennis Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Blackmail involving this Group!!!
Wasn;t former President Clinton, one of these, too? A Harvard graduate and Rhodes scholar, the 46-year-old Vitter was elected to his current office in 2004, becoming the first Republican from Louisiana elected to the Senate since Reconstruction. He represented Louisiana's 1st Congressional District in the House from 1999 to 2004. See, even Rhodes Scholars, LUST, in their minds, too! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, thankfully, none of us have yet shown up on the D.C. Madam's list which was posted on the internet yesterday. _Click here: Senator's Number on Escort Service List - Forbes.com_ (http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/10/ap3898967.html) = In a message dated 7/10/2007 11:17:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: While he references several matters he thinks he can use to embarrass me (none of which I care about I assure you) I thought I should let you all know that he refers to this Group specifically. Hopefully he will not take what you say here out of context, or purposefully misinterpret and distort excerpts of your posts. That has happened to me if you recall a couple of years ago and was made into headlines in a local paper. I also recall that happening to a local politician. I would not like to see that happen to anyone, including you. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Nostalgia for Old-Time Amusements?
Points, well taken! Great post! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Point: EVEN in the rain in the summer, people are there. Why? Motels are booked throughout the summer. They're open because there is no threat of eminent domain. There's people there because there is a beach. A boardwalk for kids. The Aquarium. Nights continue til 2 (I can barely stay up that late any more then drive back). Privately owned. Fries are $6.00 because a) you can't get a spot on the BW and b) if you do, you're paying out the nose for rent, so you better know what you're doing. You also feel safe and clean. AP will come back. It's come along way in the past 3 months. Get off the 'net and go past the casino. New roof in progress. Beaches are clean etc. Is it a Family destination today. No. Will it be. Probably, to some extent (let's go see grandma)...will it be a gay meccawill it be a real hip place... will it be a real yuppie Esperanza inspired etopia...will it be a real latino hot spot or it will it be a brooklyn meets spring lake battle for the beach. It needs, and will be, cleaned up to meet MM's mission- to bring national retail to AP and with that, some type of family destination center. The condos will take care of themselves. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park
But Tommy, our government is the biggest spender. See Iraq War! Monmouth County, is Republican run, but where or what happened to the money, Christine Whitman sent to Monmouth? She was always down here and I know she gave millions to AP! Show me the money! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I disagree with most of that spending, I maintain, No, it isn't. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Job creation is a government function? Hardly the American way. Yes it is in countless ways: Public Schooling College education loans and grants. SBA Loans The Securities and Exchange Commission adjustments Regulating commerce and trade Funding highways, bridges, ports, airports, etc. Corporate tax breaks Emminent Domain Developing standards Military spending And the list goes on and on Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park
Well, it was evident at the July 4th parade! The Boys and Girls Club, The Little League and the Bicycle Church, but those groups didn't have any teens involved. I applaud ALL of these groups! The kids, were smiling and laughing their heads off! The parents and advisors present, were AWESOME! There ARE some things going on, here! I apologize to anyone, I may have offended. Getting these groups together takes effort, dedication and oh yes, MONEY! MM had a float FILLED with kids, throwing Beach Balls to the crowd! I'm backing off the City, just for what I saw July 4th! Without the City's backing, these things couldn't be possible! Something still has to be done to improve the quality of life for the lost teens, in our city! Kudos, to the council, for all they have done, so far! Werner, I caught a red/white/blue beach ball, from the Historical Society. I missed seeing you, on the float! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharon, You mentioned recreation. I was thinking about that earlier today. I know it takes money that the city doesn't have...but...I think we are lacking things like public basketball courts, tennis courts, even a public pool. I think our city could benefit from things such as these. And, as a dog owner, i'd love to see a dog park created someplace in our city. Dog parks are great social gathering places for our dogs and owners. I mentioned that one a few months ago and got some very positive replies. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: First of all, who is they? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: That's why I'm scoffing at the idea that council is responsible for job creation. There are programs, set up. One, is recreation! The other is where are all the grants, out there? What is Asbury Works? An employment agency? I remember when kids, cut grass, delivered newspapers, babysat, life-guarded, etc. Here, in AP, there WERE jobs, when we had a fully loaded boardwalk, an IN-use, Convention Hall, movie-houses, with concession stands, ushers, etc. GONE! Even the movie house in Seaview Square, that had been there, for years! My daughter, had a job at the Palace, at 14! The lady who ran the prize parlor, next to the merry-go-round, CALLED me, because, I wouldn't hear of my bourgie daughter, with her $800.00 Fuji-12 Speed, dirtying her hands, in there! The year was 1979! The kid begged me so much, I let her do it! My college age sons, worked either as camp counselors or out there at ATT, with me! That's gone, too! I see trouble brewing! FDR used MASSIVE government spending to create jobs (was only to be temporary by the way, ended up permenant). Certainly no one is seriously suggesting the City council undertake massive spending. Those were extraordinary times and called for Keynesian solutions (although FDR disagreed with Keynes). Government's role is to create the conditions that permit job creation . That may be beyond the scope of a small local governing body and is on a county, if not state level. If there are special circumstances, as I suspect there are here, then local government has a role. It does not necessarily call for spending. Let's say incentives. My entire point is that we have a local government and elected officials. it is their job to balance the budget, increase rateables and whatever. They come up with the solutions, which may include fleecing developers. You can't look to someone else all the time. They need to set up to the plate. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Jobs in Asbury Park
Why don't you, run? For anything! We need real leadership! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: But Tommy, our government is the biggest spender. No argument from me Sharon, you are exactly right. GWB has been a disgrace on spending. Someday the Republicans will elect a conservative who knows what the word means. Bush wasn't it. His is the biggest government in American history. That's not conservative at all. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
Tommy, Thanks! I too, can't quite be in the mix, per se, as far as The Black Experience. I wasn't raised in the ghetto and had never heard the word, attributed to Blacks, until the riots of the 60's! I was so naive, I didn't know the projects, were public housing, or that public housing, was for low income people, of all races! I didn't understand why some whites, called us, the N word. I had never seen a Puerto Rican, or persons, readily speaking Spanish, until, I moved here! When I came East, in 1970, I couldn't understand Blacks, (older ones), referring to African Americans, as colored, when progressives like myself, self-defined myself, as African American or just plain Black, because I am really mixed, don't know which African tribe I descended, from! When I look back, now, I really led a charmed life. My father owned a business, and I, with my 3 siblings, attended Parochial School, for 13 years and stupidly assumed, people were poor, through their own fault! Why? My father always had 2 jobs, we lived in a home he bought after his service, in WWII. All of our family and associates were Roman Catholic! My family ran the gamut of complexions, so fair, they were mistaken for white and so black, it was undeniable, who they were! I stupidly thought all Blacks, looked like that, before I had formal Black Studies, out of curiosity, more than to seek the truth! There are still People of Color, in my home-town, who don't consider themselves as Black people, clinging to and denying, their Black Heritage. I feel sorry for them, for their apparent, ignorance! Katrina, should have opened their eyes! I've also learned from other ethnicities, the importance of teaching your children, who they are, what traditions they should adhere, to. Maybe one day, we can put our biases down and help each other. I still dream a world... Sharon --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assimilation, anyone? I bravo this column. Enjoy: __ The Politically Incorrect Americanism of Alba, Pacino, and Arnold By Mary Katharine Ham Tuesday, June 19, 2007 Hablas Espanol? Jessica Alba doesn't. Is there anything wrong with that? Apparently so. The third-generation American and actress is under fire this week from fellow Latinos for comments she made to Para Todos magazine: Alba is my last name and I'm proud of that. But that's it. My grandparents were born in California, the same as my parents, and though I may be proud of my last name, I'm American. Throughout my whole life, I've never felt connected to one particular race or heritage, nor did I feel accepted by any. If you break it down, I'm less Latina than Cameron Diaz, whose father is Cuban. But people don't call her Latina because she's blonde My grandfather was the only Mexican at his college, the only Hispanic person at work and the only one at the all-white country club. He tried to forget his Mexican roots, because he never wanted his kids to be made to feel different in America. He and my grandmother didn't speak Spanish to their children. Now, as a third- generation American, I feel as if I have finally cut loose. My whole life, when I was growing up, not one race has ever accepted me, ... So I never felt connected or attached to any race specifically. I had a very American upbringing, I feel American, and I don't speak Spanish. So, to say that I'm a Latin actress, OK, but it's not fitting; it would be insincere. She never felt connected to any race, specifically, but she always felt American. That doesn't sounds like a bad thing, does it? And yet, it is, in the eyes of many activists. One blog post on the comments remarks, Guess sell-outs come in all races and sizes. Another calls it a disturbing hoard of quotes. Another claims she hates Mexicans. Comments about Alba's comments include, F**K YOU THEN, JESSICA VIVA LA RAZA!!!, She should just change her last name to White, then, and I thought she could be a good role model for Latinas, but she is a fake, tryin' to be white. Alba wasn't trying to make a political statement. Instead, she sounds like she was trying to avoid speaking for an entire ethnicity and many recent immigrants when she barely speaks Spanish, and identifies as an American first. But because she didn't reflexively take upon herself her ethnic mantle and collective responsibility, she's bashed as a traitor to her race. Elsewhere, a phenomenally successful first-generation immigrant was sharing his secret to success in America, which was much the same as the approach Alba's college-educated grandfather took. When addressing the national Association of Hispanic Journalists, and responding to question about how Hispanics can improve academically, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said: You've got to turn off the Spanish television set and
[AsburyPark] Re: Reparations
Mario; one word, AMEN! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/19/2007 11:16:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about taking the opportunity to better one's own condition and that of their family by using all the resources available to them to get ahead? My kids want a huge on the ocean, boats and fancy cars. I busted my rear to have what I owe the bank today. On most weekends over the psat 20 years, my friends would stop by and i'd be covered in spackle, paint or dirt working on our house(s). This is America, the land of opportunity, of which there are tons. Sometimes you have to break out in a sweat to get paid. Most people don't want to That about the weakest argument against reparations there is on the topic. Among other things it doesn't address the issue of reparations for slavery and land granted, then taken back, which is what the proponents stress. Instead, it implies that anyone who doesn't achieve success must be lazy (never breaks out in a sweat). It's a very live issue. Try Reparation Arguments 101 where you'll find arguments from both sides. _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_for_slavery_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_for_slavery)(Wikimedia folks are still working on it; see the discussion page there.) Reparations 201: _http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/200011/13_williamsb_reparations/_ (http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/200011/13_williamsb_reparations/) And of Horowitiz's opposition: _http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=1153_ (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=1153) It's an issue I haven't formed an opinion on as yet, but recent precedents include our government's reparations to Japanese-Americans interred during WWII; various governments and banks to survivors and descendants of the Holocaust; Native-Americans and also Korean women. Still disputed in Japan and Turkey. The Christian Science Monitor's approach was to focus on the implications for corporations: _Click here: Slave reparations are unlikely, but lawsuit may prod companies | csmonitor.com_ (http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0328/p02s01-usju.html) Finally, Oakdorf writes: Having been around that world, as you have, I'm sure you noticed that at times, jobs are given to people who simply shouldn't have them, given the qualifications. Reminds me of many appointments made by the Bush/Cheney administration: FEMA, Justice, ad nauseum. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reparations
Mario: ROTFLMAO! Twice! He forgot Condi! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could be wrong!_Click here: YouTube - But I Could Be Wrong_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-5d5IfdYK4) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reparations
Mario: Don't remember that exchange from Network, but I saw the piece on Chris I'm in love with myself Matthews! He is a definite DEM, hater! Loves to carp on them and put them down! Must be because the Republicans have slipped to a new low, in the polls! To all Republicans out there, I can't stand the Democrats, either! Not because I am one, but, because they are as sleazy, as any other politician! I'm not fooled one bit, by their self-righteous stance, against other politicians. They're ALL in bed, with each other, would sell out their mothers, for a nickle and have no solutions, to the many problems, this Nation, faces, so please, no flames! I hate them ALL! We need a third party, for those of us, who want change; real change, where a job, health care and a free education, is given to all, LEGAL citizens! Isn't that what the Constitution USED to promise? Give us your tired, your poor,.. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/20/2007 6:50:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but fear the country is so polarized by absolutists ... The immigration debate is a great (or bad) illustration of exactly that...In a country who's entire system was built on compromise it seems that compromise has become a four-letter word. To me, that's scary. Lots of scary shitake out there. 2000 years ago the Romans were suckered and distracted by bread and circuses. Orwell's 20th century version works too. War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is Strength (bliss). (and keep 'em distracted by lotteries, shortages, pornography, and sensationalized media.). Distractions. More crawlers, more booming base sound effects touting Wolfe's latest just in, stay tuned. More chocolate Jesuses; red blue states, red alerts, if it bleeds it leads Keep 'em distracted and the 2% Inner Party will always thrive. Network redux: _Click here: Network (1976) - Memorable quotes_ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074958/quotes) And so it goes Unless more audiences like this act up: (YouTube segment) _Click here: Audience Heckles Matthews During Clinton Interview - Politics on The Huffington Post_ (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/06/19/audience-heckles-matthews_n_52875.html) Bravo! Soma, anyone? ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: bloomberg
Oh God, NO! I find him a whiny, my way or the highway, I'll stomp my foot, if I don't get my way, type! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First we need to clone him and make him the mayor of Asbury Park. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: why not? Comments. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: cameras,,,
There are cameras that can be hidden, or mounted on telephone poles, where individuals, don't realize they're there! Like, surprise! Honest people, don't and won't care! I don't have a d**m, thing to hide, except, you'd better NOT pick your nose or scratch your a$$ in public, either and if your pants get stuck up your backside, someone will be watching and laughing at YOU! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know what would be funny? If city residents started putting up their own webcams, and then some enterprising person put all those webcams onto one webpage. It would be so easy to do this. I could start by putting up a ho/john webcam outside of my living room window. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: You'd have to hope they don't shoot out the cameras. Cameras with guns mounted on them. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
I thought English, is and has been, the language, all along! As far as minorities being the new majority, Blacks of African Descent should be paid Reparations, for the 450 years of UN-paid, FREE labor, sale of thier relatives, the rape of its' women and the injustice, of having to catch up, for being under-educated, red-lined and forced to live in the ghettos, which promisees us a trip, to the gulags, (prisons), serving longer sentences, for crimes, the majority, get a slap on the wrist for! Okay, enough said. For those who always scream, MOVE ON, I challenge you, to live like this; deprived, depressed and disgusted! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote: I have nothing against that (and personally love Spanish food); however, I do think America would be better off having an official language as I do see many problems for the country in the next 5-10 years and I don't see the assimilation or desire to be part of the melting pot that previous immigration waves showed. This immigration wave is very different. If you don't believe that, please show me a part of America where my German ancestors still speak solely German. I doubt there is such a place. Learn now, minorities are the new majority. Just like the Anglos, didn't like the German influx, and together they hated the Irish, then all three started to hate Jews, Italians and other darker Europeans, us Americans are adopting the same attitude to the Latinos. I saw the movie Bobby the other night. A Mexican hotel worker replies to an Anglo who accuses him of crossing the border illegally, that Mexicans didn't cross the border, but the border crossed them. Seems to me that the Southwest was theirs first. America belongs to the world. It has from the beginning and always will (should). Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
I can't even dignify this, with an answer! It was rich whites, who forced new Irish immigrants, to go to war and the Irish in turn, took their frustration out on New York Blacks, including Black children from an orphanage! Are you proud, that the Irish lynched us, as you say? I wouldn't brag on this, if I were you. Your slip, is showing! Again! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Lets not forget the costs to the poor Black community that can't get a good wage because of our lack of enforcement. That's a huge cost not only in terms of real dollars, but also to our domestic tranquility when the Blacks finally say enough is enough. Please stop spewing garbage and pandering. Yours and my Irish immigrant ancestors lynched negroes during the Draft Riots for taking the jobs of the Irish. Are you telling me that many of the youth of AP are not working because the Mexicans took their jobs? You are hilarious. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
NO! Only the descendants, of slaves, of the original 50 states, can be African American, even though Barack Obama, was born of a white American Mother and African father, makes HIM, an African American, also, because he was born in the States, he can't OWN, the story of having descended from slaves, brought to the North American Continent! Jamaicans, are quick to tell me, that they have a country and a flag! I also got this statement from all Islanders, except those born in the American Virgin Islands, who are as American as I am, because St. Thomas, St, Croix, are American Colonies and their residents, serve in the Armed Forces, as Americans, still in the Panama Canal Zone, are Americans also. Bet you didn't know that! Obama, readily admits, that he has benefitted from the gains, made by the Civil Rights Movement, of the 60's and the ongoing fight, to achieve equality, guaranteed under the Constitution, but denied its' African descendants, still! Blacks, have to be ever vigilant, because there are those who would like nothing better, than to re-enslave us! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say if one comes from Jamaica? Are they still African American? - Original Message From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 12:30:46 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday For what it's worth, it's not blacks it's African Americans. And it's not Mexicans it's hispanic. Many of the hispanic people in our country come from other places other then Mexico. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ . wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: I'm not concerned that there is no opportunity for them in Mexico. I'm concerned about perserving opportunity for poor Blacks in America. Give me a break! Whatever problems/obstacles there are for poor blacks (God bless you kind Bawana) has nothing to do with illegal immigration. I have not seen any Mexicans putting them out of work. There is plenty of blame to go around for the failures of our inner cities; to all sides. It has nothing to do with illegal immigration. That's a lame excuse. Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Shooting reported in Asbury
You're right on point, but the West Side looks like Shangri-La, compared to the lower 9! I didn't want to admit, that I cried, or that my sister photographed me, on the top of 2 concrete stairs with inlaid marble accents, that have no house, behind it! Scores, of schools, still uninhabitable, no cleanup and it looks like a ghost town, not part of a large city! Empty homes, some boarded up, some untouched, some being worked on, with a FEMA trailer, somewhere on the property, (some in the front of the home), on the sidewalk! Come on people, these were homes, that are OWNED and PAID for! Blacks and whites, didn't just show up, in Louisiana, they've ALWAYS BEEN THERE! New Orleans, was established in 1699, at least that's what my Tee-Shirt says! It was once the largest port in the US, until Houston, took over! It's French People of Color, are as ARROGANT, as the French, in Paris, are! Ask them for a recipe and they will roll their eyes at you, because if you ask 10 Creoles the same question, they give the same answer, because they ALL think they're a better cook, than YOU! I KNOW, I'm better, than ALL of them! Putting it out here, if you want me to throw something together for a benefit, I'm willing, but won't give YOU, the recipe, either! Emeril, wishes, he cooked as good as I do! The fat chef, too! I see you laughing! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Took the lower 9th ward tour and it looked like Katrina, just happened, although it's almost 2 years! Take a drive on the west side of AP, and parts look like katrina hit there as well. Which looks better? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Fountain in Library Square Park Vandalized AGAIN!!!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Here's a link to the article from The Coaster about last weeks vandalism; http://thecoaster.net/wordpress/?p=1454 APHS and the city should get an estimate to do the renovations and video camera surveillance in one fell swoop. When the costs are know then we know what needs to be raised. Police need to walk through (not drive around) that park every hour or so, 24/7. Hinge: Sorry to hear about the fountain, after the work being done there. Whoever did this, KNOWS, there's no cameras, there! I'm surprised that with such a high crime rate, there aren't any! What would it cost to have cameras placed there and at the schools, parks and other common areas, of this town? I hate to say it, but this is one of the quality of life reasons, this City, goes nowhere, fast! It's not like this town isn't trying! This falls under general maintenance, but if there's no money, I give up! Can we sell T-shirts, buttons, or something? All you have to do, is go over to Neptune and see all of the major improvements there, but Asbury can do it too, if the money is allocated, then spent, for what it should be spent for! If this fair city could get rid of the pork it has, like 2 school administrators, I'd certainly give a donation, toward surveilling public parks, schools and those dangerous pockets, of the City, that always seems to have shooting incidents, etc. Just my thoughts. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Shooting reported in Asbury
Okay, Good news! I had lunch at the newly refurbished, HOJO's, Friday, past. Had a great visit with my 3 sisters in New Orleans last week. Had a Sazerac, my first night, Scotch and soda, the second night, Blue Hawaii's at the wedding, Saturday, second-lined danced, like I never left, Brass Band and all, ate oysters on the half shell, every day, had the green faerie, Absinthe, at $20. a pop and I had 2! Took the lower 9th ward tour and it looked like Katrina, just happened, although it's almost 2 years! What a country! Glad to be back in NJ and going back home for Mardi Gras 2008, the Good Lord willing and the creek, don't rise! Okay? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rawdogalways [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: im not saying that. hingy only reports bad news. this city is booming in the right direction, and my problem with just about everybody on this board is that you are here to complain. how come nobody talks about all the amazing things happening. asbury has come a LONG way in the last six years, and hingy wants to put it down constantly. i just get really sick of it. so i attack, and he acts like a crybaby when i do. but i was wrong to attack him personally last week, and i apologize for that. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rawdogalways rawdogalways@ wrote: do you just sit in front of the computer and look for bad news about asbury? i dont know what you would do with yourself if there was no bad news to report. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Pretend it didn't happen? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Shooting reported in Asbury
Don't be discouraged! When I lived in So. Belmar, yeah, I know it's Lake Como, now, I heard the same things. Same thing, when I lived in Neptune! What an attitude, THEY have! They want to know why I moved here! I love this damn place, is why! Anytime, a Native of New Orleans CHOOSES, to live here, it has to be something! I love the weather, good or bad! The people are very friendly, rich or poor! I love visiting New York City; my husband is from there! NJ, like everyplace else, has problems! There are corrupt politicians in every state, ask Louisiana! I feel I can make a difference, so I won't whine, but I do b**ch, sometimes! Life isn't fair, either, but I dream a world! I can dream, can't I? Every time I pass the hot dog guy, with his cart lit up, by the Saint, I think of the Lucky Dog men, in the French Quarter! Hinge, You are a decent, human being and you want what's best and good for the City. We've never met, but I just know you are! God Bless! -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As usual, the rash of negative posts about AP are now appearing on the APP website. Great...:( Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok - so how would you go about deporting them over time. Your statement is exactly the kind of statement that says nothing and means nothing, which is why over 80% of American's don't believe deporting 12+ million people is realistic. I'm a realist. Please join me and the over 80% of America in the state of reality. Where did you get that figure? I must be in the 20 percentile! In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: The Draft Riots of the Civil War. The Irish killed innocent Blacks, including children, because the US government was forcing them to fight, in the South! America always finds someone to do the jobs that no one else will. This, says it all! The problem Americans are having is that they have to compete for wages against illegals who are not trying to assimilate, rather make money to send back home and return thereafter. Has anyone asked a Black or a Puerto Rican, to do those jobs? NO! Bush and friends see a way, to pay a peon's wage, to make their beds, cook their food and raise their kids! They want a PERMANENT underclass! Blacks turn to crime, (sell drugs), because there ARE no jobs! Just where do the Abbott funds, go? Administrative costs? The money NEVER filter down, where it's needed! So, our community winds up, with dumbed down, uneducated children! No, I want fair competition. How can an American Black laborer demand a wage that allows him to buy a home, get his kids an ipod and a bike, send his kids to college and have a nest egg for retirement when an illegal will work for cheap because he is living 30 in a house and sending every penny back to Mexico so his familiy can live well there and he can go back in 10 years and retire? He can't. It's unfair competition. Let Americans compete against those that wish to stay here. Thanks, Tommy! First of all, the extensive welfare state is much younger than 150 years. No country has ever been asked to handle this many foreigners at one time, educate them, give them healthcare, welfare, etc. Consider some numbers. After America was formed, the two largest Note: America was stolen, from the Natives, Africans, were stolen and enslaved to perform free labor for life! groups of immigrants from Europe are Germans, followed by Italians. There are more illegals STANDING IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW than all the Germans and Italians that came here combined over the past 225 years. We have more foriegn born people STANDING IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW than all the immigrants who came here combined in the 350 years from 1607 to 1965. Some assert the number of illegals crossing the border is as high as 2 million each year. Gov. Bill Richardson of Arizona says his state sees 4500 illegals cross the border EVERY DAY. All of these people cannot simply be deported. Most can be. Lets start with the approximately 70,000 that arrive each year with felony records. It is probably the only thing on which I will ever agree with Dubya. President Bush's failure to secure our borders in a time of war is a gross dereliction of his Constitution duties (not to mention a failure to ensure domestic tranquilty, as I would expect poor Blacks in partuclar to rise up against this economic war being waged upon them). Is that what you want? Sounds like planned police brutality! If failure to secure our boarders are grounds for impeachment, don't expect me to stand in the way if the Democrats try. How do they or anyone rise up? Education. Sure! I'll enroll them in school when they land here legally. The jews who emigrated here always knew the answer. The answer was assimilation. I don't recall them demanding any street signs, applicaitions or 411 calls in yiddish. My Black American son, was told in Florida, to learn Spanish! He said, I thought this was America, to a Cuban! He's 45, with a degree in Computer Science! Another arrogant group, who think they're more entitled, than we are! When I get reparations, they can say anything! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
[AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: No one is suggesting that people be encouraged to enter the country illegally. Yes they are. Many cities are declaring themselves sanctuary cities were the police and judges are instructed not to ask about immigration status. George Bush is dangling amnesty for prior tax evasion and automatic citizenship as a reward for breaking the law and coming here illegally. Sure sounds like he is encourging them to enter the country illegally to me. While there are laws the penalize companies for employing illegals, they are simply a slap on the wrist. If you really want to stop it, then throw the employer in jail instead of fining him. Agreed. When can we start? The father of one of my daughters students just got deported for being undocumented. That is the correct term, not illegal. Semantics. Under NJ Law, drunk driving is not a felony so it is not designated as a crime. It's still illegal. So is being here against the immigration laws. So now the mother is stuck here with her many children, all of whom were born in this country, without support. Anchor babies? If so, that's a huge loophole in our immigration laws that needs to close. BTW, the husband has never been in trouble with the law and works. Me too, but the President isn't offering me amnesty for not paying my income taxes. A century and more ago, American businesses advertised for workers in Europe. That is how many of us came to be. America has an historic love affair with cheap labor. Agreed. A certain political party argued in the 1860's to keep slavery for economic reasons. Now both parties are trying to keep a permenant, low wage slave class here too, at the expense of working class Blacks who can't ask for a living wage. Many of the illegal Mexicans aren't intrested in a living wage - they live 30 in a house, send the money back to Mexico and retire there in a few years because the exchange rate is so favorable. Don't take my word for it. Read up on Cesar Chaves, a left wing hero who organized the fruit laborers in California. He was a constant fighter against illegal immigration from Mexico because it allowed employers to not pay a living wage to American workers. Can't we learn from our own recent history? I am not condoning the johns' actions, although I certainly can sympathize with some of their likely plights of being in a strange country all alone without a mate after working who knows how many hours all to send some money home. The unwillingness to assimilate is their problem, not mine. Prostitution is a problem here in AP for other reasons. End our suspense.. The insanity of making it illegal. Will we never learn? I know a nice town in Nevada you can live in. I appreciate and thank you for your comments on illegal aliens. It creates a permenant underclass and jobs, that teenagers used to look forward to having, in the summer, no longer exists! With all of the high tech jobs, also going overseas, this country, is recreating an old system of the very rich and the desperately poor! Employment usually reserved for the undereducated or mis-educated Americans, are going to South Americans, not just Mexicans, create an almost Catch-22, situation. Either way, the foreign Hispanics, lose. They are not granted citizenship, are deeply resented by Blacks, Union workers and small entrepreneurs, who once could look forward, to having SOME employment, into a virtual unemployment, for life. This leads to gang creation, drug distribution, drug use, incarceration with long, draconian sentences, due to the Rockefeller Drug Laws, but it also creates employment, for the Justice Department. More jails to incarcerate, the overflow in the prisons and an almost planned genocide, of Blacks and Hispanics, (Puerto Ricans), because we are considered, expendable! Just my thoughts. Thanks again! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Should We Make Cuts to the Proposed 2007 Municipal Budget?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =charge us $1.00 for every message posted on this board. Put advertising on the city website. Pretend the city is an airline, and ask each employee to give back a % of their pay. Ask each employee, if it were their money, who would they fire. Kind of like apprentice meets survivor. Huh? Pretend the city is an airline, and ask each employee to give back a % of their pay. This will go over like a lead balloon! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: This month in Forbers
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Werner - This month's Forbes Thoughts on Business (quotes) Study Men, Not Historians. - Henry Truman History Repeats itself. Historians repeat each other. - Hang in there WB. History Repeats itself. Historians repeat each other. - Ad, they plaigerize, then think it's THEIR, original thought, until CAUGHT! Ask Goodwin and the now deceased, Stephen Ambrose, who wore themed clothing, never served, but who wrote Band of Brothers and was mainly responsible, for the WWII Museum, in New Orleans! Werner, at least KNOWS, what he's talking about! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I Need Your Help If You Can
Tommy, Great hearing from you! Hope all is well! Don't know if I can get kids, because our Juniors, do the same thing; throw candy! I saw your kids, last year! What a great day, for a parade! Asbury Park's Band, looked spiffy on Memorial Day, with their NEW uniforms! Great kids; Great coordinator, in charge! Sharon --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Group, Each year since the 4th of July Parade started here in Asbury, I dress my kids up as clowns and they march the parade giving out toys/trinkets to the children lining the parade route. We have a truck that stores the toys, and they march behind grabbing the toys and running them to each side of the street. They love doing it. In the end its great fun. Great memory builder. However, I don't have enough kids each year. It is usually my 4 and about 2 others. You can't really appreciate how wide Main Street is until you see these kids running back and forth between the truck and both sides of the street, trying to keep up with the truck as it moves forward. Last year it was really hot. They worked like dogs. They were struggling to keep up because the crowds are bigger each year. I promised them that this year I would get more help. If any of you have or know of some kids that would like to come along, I'd love to have them. I prefer teenagers, but as young as 10 will do (younger than that they tend to quit and we end up cramming them in the truck with the toys for the rest of the parade). Id like to have maybe 15 kids. They don't have to actually dress as clowns. Some just do face paint (my wife does the painting before the parade). I'm willing to negotiate down to no costume at all if I can get the help. If you can help, please call my office at 732-869-1500 (I'm short a secretary right now so if I'm not there it may ring about 8 times before the answering machine picks up - leave a message and I'll call you back). Thanks so much (actually my kids will thank you so much). Tommy. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Thumbs DOWN on the city website
Why didn't they give YOU, a contract? You seem perfect for it! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.qscend.com/content/36/default.aspx They even have AP as a featured Muni client. While asburyboardwalk.com may not look so professional any more (I'm getting older), I keep the current events fairly up to date. All for free. I thought UEZ money went to Jewell as did other funds for such things as the city website. Could be wrong. The partners website (oceanfrontasbury.com) is there as is asburyparkconventinonhall or whatever they are calling it .net or .com. I consider myself to be an internet marketing expert. The pwoer of the interNET and CHEAP advertising goes a long way. Plus you have to understand the POWER of the internet and the POWER of sand, water and sun. The draw of both is limitless, bounded only by creativity. Consulting services available - content development, mangement and brainstorming sessions. Reasonable. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: where'd everyone go?
ROTFLMAO! I'm glad everyone has a sense of humor! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: Let's compromise - nude bike paths... You'll finally get cited by the police. For not wearing a helmet. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: where'd everyone go?
And I'll strip to that! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I'll strip to that! great a bunch of middleage or older guys staring at each one other and one girl. To Sandy Hook with you all. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's BOE Meeting
A round of Applause, to you, for knocking yourself out, as usual! Bravo and smooches! Now get yourself a hot tea and your slippers! You deserve a break, for a thankless job! S --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At last night's BOE meeting, the state intervention team gave a 90 minute update on all aspects of their assistance to the school district from Early Childhood through High School. Of all 600 school districts in New Jersey, they are spending the most time and resources here due to the often dysfunctional, but fixable in their view, nature of our school system. Early Childhood and Elementary are the brightest spots here, and there are plans to ameliorate and remediate the secondary level with initiatives from our own Board of Ed, a Middle School Initiative and Grant from UMDNJ, the NJEA, and assistance provided by the State. There will be more transitional Summer school programs than ever before to keep the progress moving ahead. The Intervention Team, headed by Assistant State Commissioner of Ed Dr. Penelope Lattimer, as well as the Board expressed their admiration for the work being accomplished by the Acting Superintendent, James Parham. The three students who won the district-wide spelling bee, the Teachers of the Year, the Students who have been named to the Governor's School and the Monmouth County Student of the Month (a phenomenal young lady from our high schoolthere's a story about Carlita in today's Press) were all honored. Also last night the Board passed a corrective action plan to correct irregular business procedures that have needed correcting for a very long time. The present law firm was also re-appointed for another year with one abstention and one no vote. Due to a very long agenda and unusually long closed session, the meeting ended well past 11 PM. As usual, I must state that I do not speak for the Board. Frank D'Alessandro, BOE member Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re:Madison Marquette
Maureen, Something progressive about MM. I sent a personal thank you, to one of the top movers, in this group and got an almost instant reply! I wish I could get that, from the movers and shakers, here! There's something, can do, about this group! I for one, welcome MM! No negative vibes, yet. AP needs this, to move forward. S --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also on Madison's Fund, knowing the major investors could be useful in the future, to ensure they're kept aware of how the project is being built and maintained. I'm sure those current and future retirees care how their dollars are being spent and the assets preserved. I think Motolla is well aware of this. It could be why he took so long to commit and why he finally decided to takeover the rehab piece himself. Maureen Maureen Nevin Asbury Radio -The Radio Voice of Asbury Park 88.1FM - 6 Years on the Air!! Asbury's Own Live Talk Show_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 601 Bangs Avenue Listen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM or Listen Live or Later on the Web _http://www.asburyradio.com/_ (http://www.asburyradio.com/) Call the show 732-775-0821 Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463 Speak up - It's America!! ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: PR Newswire Re Madison Marquette
See what I mean? S --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI From May 21 PR Newswire _Click here: Madison Marquette :: Madison Marquette Raises Half Billion Dollar Private Equity Fund_ (http://sev.prnewswire.com/real-estate/20070521/DCM00821052007-1.html) I liked: superior track record of value creation and Many communities need new retail destinations that reflect who they are and what they want, (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyParkGLH/database) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Ned Brown Indicted Again - Wanted to help the poor buy houses...yeah...
Mr. Serpico, is a fine, reputable guy, as well as attorney! AP, gets its' money's worth, when they hired him! A decent, honorable son, of Asbury Park! Indeed, Mr. Serpico, taught me and gave good sound advice, on how to change, or grant beneficial use, in many requests, on the zoning board! I believe as he always did, (his homework), on this Ned, person. Too bad, he didn't heed him, when he repeatedly asked, whether there was any conflict. once said, that I couldn't vote on an issue, because of my faith, forgetting the board was predominantly Catholic and that religion, had no bearing on the ruling. Wasn't anything monumental, except a change in use, of a said property. When it comes to faith-based activities of any group, I would have voted yes, because religion, is the one thing that grounds, me. Not so for some or those who have no faith; it's just what it is! I've also learned that it's okay, to NOT have any faith, for whatever reason or, none!Our board meetings were only attended by those petitioning. There were no huge crowds and I almost thought, that it was a non-important, board! It is, since the redevelopment, finally took off! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, radio881gal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eileen - I agree. The board attorney, Serpico, also told me years ago in WYGG's studio that he repeatedly asked Brown if he had any affiliations with RDR. Serpico said each time he asked Brown denied any involvement, which left Serpico in a bind, according to him. He had no proof to dispute Brown's claim. I believe I asked him about the ethics report at that time, but I think Serpico said then that he hadn't seen Brown's report. That was probably because Brown hadn't filled it out yet. I hope the boards are more diligent now about collecting those forms prior to a new member's first meeting. Maureen --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyact asburyact@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: Maureen: Don't know Ned Brown. Who appointed him to the board of adjustment and for how long? Strange, he didn't abstain on that vote...clear conflict of interest! Seems the attorney, (if he knew), would've advised him. A big if! S The attorney did advise him to abstain if he had a conflict. Eileen Sonnier, Former Chairperson AP Zoning Board of Adjustment Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Ned Brown Indicted Again - Wanted to help the poor buy houses...yeah...
So he thought, no one is going to say or DO anything, huh? Read where he cane on board, after me! You know, I have no idea who he is! I thought Mr. Parreott, replaced me. Thanks, Eileen! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyact [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: Maureen: Don't know Ned Brown. Who appointed him to the board of adjustment and for how long? Strange, he didn't abstain on that vote...clear conflict of interest! Seems the attorney, (if he knew), would've advised him. A big if! S The attorney did advise him to abstain if he had a conflict. Eileen Sonnier, Former Chairperson AP Zoning Board of Adjustment Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Ned Brown Indicted Again - Wanted to help the poor buy houses...yeah...
I can only echo, this response! Some people think they are above the law and that the law, doesn't apply to them! Those who have felt they have no obligation, to the public, think again! This won't be the end of exposing findings, like this! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, radio881gal restore881FM@ wrote: Will justice be served this time? This is the guy who served on the Zoning Board of Adjustment while working deals with or for RDR Properties. Check out the Ned Brown story on AsburyRadio.com Please let me know what you think about this. Best, Maureen Asbury Radio Great report on your site, Maureen! It may take a while, but the truth usually does come out. The personal touch and your knowledge of the entire matter are both admirable. Valentin's comment in the Press story today and also in your article is very apt, and every public official should put it on an index card and carry it with him or her wherever they go: Those who choose to serve the public in any capacity must put the public interest first and hold themselves accountable to higher standards. When a public official chooses to ignore the rule of law and place their own personal interests before that of the public they serve, they can face severe consequences. Please keep up the good work! Frank D'Alessandro Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Chamber of Commerce Luncheon
Oh yeah? New top coat for Ocean Ave.? How come a perfectly redone street, (Sewell Ave.), was dug up to run new sewer lines, I was told, has never been repaved? The front of the 600 700 block are like a war zone! Was told over a year ago, it was the gas companies job! OK, what about us? Anyone who cares to ride up the street from Main to Grand Ave., will know what I'm talking about! It's a mess! The school blocks off all the streets in the morning and afternoon, with the worse crossing guards in the county! Ride through here anytime and you'll see the checkpoint charlie barricades! No kidding! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. The plant will someday be tied in to the casino market 2. He used the term activated for the green spaces on the BW. Like any real estate guy, that is Ocean Front Land. Seems like they are getting buyddy buddy with the state - to help AP 3. The wave pool he threw out there, but I thought the same thing 4. They also want to tie in all the retail and walkways, so when you look at the history of AP, you tie in Ocean Ave- all retail should be tied in etc. They don't want gap - AP, and every shore town has its own unique theme. 5.Wesley Plaza is the name he gave to the new idea. The former plan had 3 levels of retail which is said would not work, the new plan would create ground floor retail, tie it in to the casino etc. Does not like malls - town centers tb Wesley Plaza - casino to W. Grove to cookman. 6. Thy're idea to cleanup the gateway to the ocean (the pits and trucks at the casino). 7. CH - the whole thing doesn't make ecomnomic sense 8. Larry shoed up at the end. Yuri was there to hold the fort down. 16. Its a challenge. MM wants to (needs to ) work with community Funny you use the term bones. Thats what MM said- the bones are here. Never again would an opportunity exist to recreate the history and a new town center like this. This is not a standard thing you see elsewhere around the country I thought werner wrote this for him You have to realize what I said - you need plans. Development plans, concept plans, building plans, appprovals, buidlers etc. Be happy for now Ocean Ave is getting a final top coat, the lots are getting cleaned up, the boardwalk is lit, the beach is clean and there are police around and enjoy the good food AP has to offer. He also mentioned they are talking to surf shops, places to buy a water. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Woman shot in Asbury Park - Will this ever end?
.And a camera, dammit! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put a metal detector on every street corner. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Ned Brown Indicted Again - Wanted to help the poor buy houses...yeah...
Maureen: Don't know Ned Brown. Who appointed him to the board of adjustment and for how long? Strange, he didn't abstain on that vote...clear conflict of interest! Seems the attorney, (if he knew), would've advised him. A big if! S --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, radio881gal restore881FM@ wrote: Will justice be served this time? This is the guy who served on the Zoning Board of Adjustment while working deals with or for RDR Properties. Check out the Ned Brown story on AsburyRadio.com Please let me know what you think about this. Best, Maureen Asbury Radio Great report on your site, Maureen! It may take a while, but the truth usually does come out. The personal touch and your knowledge of the entire matter are both admirable. Valentin's comment in the Press story today and also in your article is very apt, and every public official should put it on an index card and carry it with him or her wherever they go: Those who choose to serve the public in any capacity must put the public interest first and hold themselves accountable to higher standards. When a public official chooses to ignore the rule of law and place their own personal interests before that of the public they serve, they can face severe consequences. Please keep up the good work! Frank D'Alessandro Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Werner's Monorail
I actually rode in a monorail car at the 1984 World's Fair, New Orleans. We exited at the NASA exibit of the Columbia Space Shuttle and was awestruck at the complexity of the Space Vehicle. I have an admiration of all technology, having come out of RD. There's no harm in reflecting on the past, to see how far we've come. Change is good, except when that change, redefines or forgets, what makes an area, what it IS! I see no harm in having the old, next to the new, but as some have observed here, it shows pride, when you can preserve. rather than destroy, that, which makes an area, unique! After Katrina, did anyone read, that the French Quarter, would be destroyed and condos built? NO! They were too busy trying to dry the place out and as usual, the lower 9th ward, was and still is, being neglected! Any parallels to the destruction of the landmarks, that had made AP, the pearl of the Jersey Shore? You say jewel, I say pearl, because what was once pristine, has turned into a dump! A sorry commentary, on what made Asbury Park, unique and different from Seaside Hts., or Point Pleasant. This City had its' unique architecture and landmarks, of which you only have postcards, photographs and things that once, were. So get rid of the old, because the Partners, DON'T identify with it. All I can say, is, there's nothing Jewish here, so what do they care? I've been to countries, where 3 or 4 square blocks, are left of old Jewish neighborhoods, from WWII. I didn't hear the tour guide say, Oh, this will be torn down and made into condos! See what I mean? My opinion and I'm sticking to it! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, this is not a photoshop job. IT was propsoed back in 1957 to bring the boardwalk and the downtown together. This isn't the monorail Werner was talking about. However, another exmaple of how many of idea person has came and gone in AP. Good thing, could you imagine this thing running along the boardwalk?? Someone would of had to make a decision to rip it down by now - or save it. Imagine a monorail running all along the parkway - or along the j coast line - or from Long Branch to Point along the ocean http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/oldnews/1900/1950/0357.htm Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Casino Items For Sale
Like a bad dream, turning into a nightmare! Not surprised at all. but looks like their hand, was caught in the cookie jar! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the Coaster: Raffetto said certain architectural features were required to be preserved, but not everything. They (the items) are identified in a report prepared by Clarke Canton Hintz in association with PMK Group Oct. 21, 2004, he said. We are trying to insure that none of the artifacts or architectural features that are identified in the report are being sold. I like Fred Raffetto, but John Clarke (CCH) probably still can't remember anything. Remember when he was brought in to clear up the C- 8/dual redevelopment plan nonsense? Like Reagan at Iran-Contra. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Problem with this board
Now, I know it isn't just me! Thanks, man! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not a problem with the board. It seems there are quite a few here who have come from the telco world. So we know how to analyze and analyze. Read the comaprisons between AP and ATT again. Ring a bell? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Parking in the redevelopment zone
This, is what happens, when you think YOU know all the answers! Ever heard of forecasting? It's what ALL marketers, or Business Marketing Professionals, (emphasis on Professionals), do, BEFORE, presenting their product, service or area of expertise! How in the world, did they NOT plan for parking? I was over there at CH, for the Monmouth County Cotillion, an annual event, for African American High School Seniors, from the County area! Parking, was HORRENDOUS! I was let out at the curb, due to the fact, ALL of the handicapped spaces were GONE! Why do I have to park in hadicapped? Besides terminal brain damage, I have an inoperable disc problem, in my lower neck and back. Makes walking into and out of certain areas, almost impossible, especially, high curbs, uneven ground, etc., which puts CH, almost impossible to maneuver. When I was young, I didn't even think about it. Also, the steps of CH are verticle, high and thankfully, I'm NOT in a wheel-chair, YET! CH, is VERY handicapped, inaccessible! Why this jewel, has bee allowed to crumble, is beyond me! It is caught up in the 70's and 80's, as far as design and NO ramps, whatsoever! I say that, to say this, my legs were cramped and I left, at the intermission. Same for the 110th! I was babysitting a well known personality, which included the famous Mr. Noumair of Noumair's photography, who let me know where I can find the proofs, from my son's Confirmation, back in '74! I wasn't a VIP, said so and told my friend, that I was leaving, because I couldn't maneuver CH, too many steps! Our own Deputy Mayor, would have had, to have been carried into a seat, had he not been down in the semi-circle, reserved for them. Saying all that, no consideration for parking, accomodations, for the elderly, people like me, who have pre-exisiting situations, ( I look perfectly normal), until I try to navigate an area, I know, I can't! So, I guess I have to read about events, in the papers, or online, huh? So much for redevelopment! Only the young and the strong, survive! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: So...where's the PR? What are they hiding? == - Inexperienced City Officials - Developer Control - Poor Planning - No Performence Deadlines - Destuction of National Historic Sites - Deconstruction of an American Icon ... Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Parking in the redevelopment zone
A comment on 2-way Ocean Ave. I kept looking for oncoming traffic and noticed cars that knew, turned off, into one of the avenues, which is what we did, ASAP! Lots of out of towners, DON'T know and I could envision head-ons! Red light GONE, from where the Wonder Bar is, on Kingsley! I asked, where's the light signal? My husband said, he didn't know! I can see accident, upon accident, come summer! People DON'T pay attention! They're too busy sight-seeing, looking for the NEW, what changed, etc.! ONE traffic change, is ONE, too many! I'm staying the h*ll, away! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think anyones hidding anything. I think it's a simple casse of their not sure what's going yet either! Everythings up in the air right now i have a feeling. They dont want to say one thing, and have it change later on. (my last post about parknig, i know some spots are missing, but just wanted to see what everyones thoughts about what areas they are missing from) - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Cookman Avenue - Parking problems in 1926
Thanks for the link, but it utterly depressed me! I'm not a native, but I love this place, for all it was and what it could be! My kids, grew up here and wherever they live, realize that there's no place like AP, Neptune and Long Branch, for the rich experience of having been young and foolish, as the young are! I fell like singing, Thanks for the Memories, as Bob Hope, so fondly sang or My kind of Town, as Frank Sinatra, sang. Sad, huh? My attachment for what might have been and how bitterly cruel, it is, to live here and see the greed, played out, in such a cruel, in your face, way! Yesterday, I was in Home Goods, purchasing items, for a Patriotic Basket and found 2 items, just for me; Melville's Sea Coast Lollipops, perfect as a buy, for this area. For $6.99, the clear package has 6 glycerin pops, in the shapes of All things Asbury! Lollipops, in the shapes of a shark, seashell, lighthouse, sailboat, sea horse and a lobster! Overpriced, but so what! In New Orleans, there was a Greek Confectioner, who created these, 2 for a nickle! For the naught me, I purchased Shonfeld's, At the Party, frozen pops kit, for ADULTS! 4 plastic molds, with 2 tubes of punch mix, and instructions, where to pour the alcohol in the bottom, drink mix and water, at the top! Perfect thing, on a hot afternoon, AT HOME! For adults, only! Yeah, there's still a kid, inside, me! That and my Yankee Candles! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: link went to far: http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/oldnews/1900/1920/0926.htm Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Good bye Pony....
I'm bowled over, with laughter, because I can see it! That, was funny! Great sense of humor! Thanks, I needed that! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: We have the REAL thing, in the REAL location and people want to make a fake one. Unbeleivable. Werner Bring back Imus and my AM radio. Toss that iPod. My first stereo was a bunch of old radios formt he hadassah thrift shop when it was on main st. I broke em all apart and wired up all the little speakers around my room. Remember the portable record players? They were as big as a suitcase and you had to run the plug from the stoop through the window. Try jogging with that sucker. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Good bye Pony....
Now, I'm howling with laughter! I don't know who told me, I was a mechanic or engineer, but I did the same thing, although, girls, aren't supposed to be able, to figure these things out! I used to fix, everything! My parents, thought I was brilliant! I was just lucky, I didn't electrocute, myself! I feel cleansed, from all this laughter! I forgot, I'm not SUPPOSED, to be happy AND female! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think my soundman career began when I was about 7 years old. My parents had a Victrola in the living room, and somehow I thought I could make it sound even better, so I took it apart, then put it back together. To my amazement, it still worked...but sounded exactly the same. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: We have the REAL thing, in the REAL location and people want to make a fake one. Unbeleivable. Werner Bring back Imus and my AM radio. Toss that iPod. My first stereo was a bunch of old radios formt he hadassah thrift shop when it was on main st. I broke em all apart and wired up all the little speakers around my room. Remember the portable record players? They were as big as a suitcase and you had to run the plug from the stoop through the window. Try jogging with that sucker. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Good bye Pony....
They were actually first tested in Chicago, at the Napierville Labs, at ATT! I know, because I worked on the project, in conjucntion, with, adherence to the Communications Act of 1934. They were called microwave phones, back in '78! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember the portable record players? They were as big as a suitcase and you had to run the plug from the stoop through the window. Try jogging with that sucker. How about: - trying to rig the original cable boxes to get Playboy TV. One step above dumpster diving, -working at Merrill - high technology lab where we got to test the first cellphones (car phones). Suitcases. To call into to checkaccount balances and our first compaq laptop at Merrill. A Suitecase with a 3x3 screen. Played monopoly on it. Old age sucks. SO my daughter is on her 2nd apple laptop, 3rd ipod. Free music. I'm finally MAC, not PC. (almost). I just trust MSFT vs. APPL stock. JJ? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Good bye Pony....
The point, is, how fast, technology, in this case, becomes, obsolete! When these innovations were produced, THEY, were the NEXT, Big Thing, as they are commonly called! I worked in the RD field, for over 20 years and surprised at how many here, are either engineers, marketers and end users, as they say, in the business! What, you have no memories? If anyone in this group, remembers Pong, you know what I'm talking about! Pong, was the very first electronic game, that was massed produced! Atari, IntelliVision and Super Mario Brothers, followed! An analogy of AP can parallel, what I've just said; AP - Old, established, religious camp settlement, pretty much, like Ocean Grove. A plact to take the air and worship! Segregated, bigoted, whatever you wish to call it, because people, of a darker hue, could only work there, not live there. A class and racial system, still practiced to this day, in theory, if not actual! A phenomenon or movement, dubbed, regentrification, occurs, when long neglected urban centers, done so, due to white flight, occured, in the 60's, taking the jobs, factories, etc., to the suburbs, rendering the school systems, integrated by the 1954, Brown vs. the Board decree, still leaving the schools, predominantly black/hispanic/poor, to furthur deteriorate, either from overfunding of suburban schools, resulting in your Abbott, districts of today, that no matter how much money, you throw at a problem, the problem, remains, unresolved! Due to inflation, city and suburban dwellers, have the means, to take old and deteriorated properties and refurbish them, commonly called, regentrification, which pushes the poor and underserved to be moved out, in favor of this new money! Minorities, like me, can opt to stay or move away, because I can! Any questions? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the point of these posts? Maybe to say that comes a time to let things go? Sometime new is better no matter how much you liked the old. - Original Message From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2007 4:05:53 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Good bye Pony How about the brief reign of the Betacam VCRs that were as big as TVs when they came out! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Remember the portable record players? They were as big as a suitcase and you had to run the plug from the stoop through the window. Try jogging with that sucker. How about: - trying to rig the original cable boxes to get Playboy TV. One step above dumpster diving, -working at Merrill - high technology lab where we got to test the first cellphones (car phones). Suitcases. To call into to checkaccount balances and our first compaq laptop at Merrill. A Suitecase with a 3x3 screen. Played monopoly on it. Old age sucks. SO my daughter is on her 2nd apple laptop, 3rd ipod. Free music. I'm finally MAC, not PC. (almost). I just trust MSFT vs. APPL stock. JJ? Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Problem with this board
All TRUE! Are you a Telephone Pioneer, too? Jesus, you really knew the system! Not thanking you, for THAT memory. Lots of waste, on redundant, passe' projects! Ran into an associate, 2 days in a row. One, I hadn't seen in 30 years and she asked did I remember her? She's one of the nice people, I did! Even with her white hair, she's still beautiful! All they did at ATT was WASTE money! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: 6. you have alot of people in town who should retire. I forgot the last comparison(s): 7.you have people that live for the next budget cycle, which you are always working on, justifying you, your department and your role. 8.you work on projects that never get completed and have been obsolete since before it was approved, but you were given millions to spend so you figure out to spend it, usually while your working fom home, on vacation or on a business trip. 9.alot of people think/thought they were so special 10. they always think the value of the assets whill continue to increase and couldn't care less what the the truth is. 11. sell all the assets to pay bills, high salaries of the incompetent only to have to buy back the assets to keep their job. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Public Payrolls
OO! That was COLD! I don't mean it critically; agreeing! S --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if u search retirees WELDON ASBURY PARK CITY 12/01/00 312 $0 $4,505 $81,900 (final average salary). Reidys, 6 years later lsited at $159k? Does that include all the bennies? The big W - to sick to even get sentenced. Thought the feds had a hospital or 2. If they can send guys/girls that got theirs asses or minds blown out in Iraq to a hospital, there must be one for TW and his ailing heart. Never question another's salary - that is, unless your taxes are paying for it. SameOldAsburyPark The real meaning of SOAP. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: it takes a lot to laugh, it taks a train to cry
It's like an attempt in futility! Thanks, for including me, in this illustrious group of people! It's also people like you, who really make a difference and make me glad that I live here, trying to hang in there, etc. It's not easy, when you feel like you're just out there alone! No matter what happens, I still wish for a positive outcome in the City, that will benefit and enhance the quality of life, here. It's what we ALL, strive for! I'm always disheartened, by those that litter, then wonder why this place, can be a dump, in more ways than one! Going to put a pair of rubber gloves in my car and stop, when I see this filth! In Europe, you don't see one scrap of paper or waste, on the ground, or in the streets. There are certain areas, you don't see it here, either, like lower Sunset Ave., 8th Ave., 7th, some areas of Webb St., but then there are certain sections of streets, that make you feel as though, it's a garbage dump! My street is swept, every other day and there's alternate side of the street parking, on these days. The City does a great job, so my beef, is not with our workers, it's with people, who have no pride in themselves. We're doing some things right, like electing qualified individuals, to correct the mistakes, made by former boards, former administrators, etc. In that regard, I think the City will move forward. Weeding out corruption, should be paramount, in any town! When you read some of the saleries, earned by those caught, with their hands in the till, it has to be GREED! We lose, kids and seniors lose and it just gives us, another Black Eye! One day, we will all have to stand and give account, for not helping the poor, or feeding the hungry, because a few people with power and manipulation, of the press, always get their way, then cry foul, when they feel their civil rights, are being trampled on. Anyway, again thanks! If someone knows where I can get a replica, or reasonable facsimile, of the Carousel, displayed for the 110th, please send details. I want to use the carousel image, when I become State President, for my organization and order pins and give-aways, for my installation. Should I contact Jewell Marketing? I really would like everyone to wear those great, T-Shirts, that promote Asbury Park. Thanks in advance, S --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It takes the hinges, the werners, nevin, franks, sharons, sackman, every business owner and yes even larry to take this city to the next level. To do so, they have had to deal with the OLD city politics and get past it by using patience and common sense - and not being afraid of speaking up and taking the challenge presented by some with power they simply shouldn't have. And there are plenty of hard working, good city employess who will go beyond and around to help, while others will simply look u in the face and tell you no - basically telling u to go f yourself. So it has taken this long for some good new people to buy in to old bs, take the challenge and roll along, despite the negative comments, the setbacks, the money and the politics that still plague the city. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Blinded By The Light
I'm with AsburyPedaler and Mario, in their statements! I admire anyone, who stands up for the Asbury Park, of old! The nostalgic and historical. There's no measure of what you give, except that you give it. Believe me, it IS appreciated! Believe me, I've been scorned and rebuked, so in that regard, we're all together, but like Jennifer Hudson, in her show stopping performance, in DreamGirls, ...and I am telling you, I'm not going! We all have our dreams and aspirations, as I'm sure everyone here, has! You are truly an Angel and the guardian of the Dream! Thanks! S --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with Robert on his comment. I appreciate and respect you, Werner. I respect the expertise, the passion and the tenacity. The dilemma: How not to be misinterpreted -- as arrogant or prejudiced etc. -- when trying to distill complex subjects into soundbites. Tough enough face to face, much more so in print. Very time-consuming, tiring, and frustrating. Have a good weekend all. Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Blinded By The Light Date: 4/27/2007 8:48:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on: I appreciate and respect you, Werner. Even if all you do is an exercise in futility, your character is intact. I believe you have more integrity in your pinky than most who claim to love AP have in their whole geneology. I know it may not mean much coming from another shunned member of the community, but I think you get more respect and praise then you are currently willing to see. Chin up, whatever you do. If your tired of it, you can let it go. I was tired of some of the same issues as you. Only I couldn't suffer with it for 25 years. I learned my lesson early in the game. Let me know if I can help. Robert --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: This may be one of the more arrogant statements I've seen in a long time... I SEE more around this City then most likely anyone around. Its a curse, At times I wish I were ignorant and happy. Werner = Thats right arrogant and tired.. Tired of.. - studying the history of this City for 25 years - puting my own life on hold for this City - volunteering for committees - creating the historical society - attending every conceivable meeting - taking preservation seminars - attending out of state conferences - reading City plans and documents - trying to save historic sites - watching the essence of Asbury Park disappear - receiving no thanks or respect - being shunned in my own community All for no benefit to myself. Yes I've become arrogant. If you would like to step up to the plate be my guest. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Zoning Board Results ?
22 years ago, we didn't have the awareness, that we now have, thanks to Meaghan's law. We didn't have an internet, so sophisticated that this information, wasn't posted, because the internet was USENET! I DID work in R D! Been on the net, since '82, thank you! Owning property isn't mutually exclusive. Everyone has the need to feel secure in their environment. So what's your beef? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . The Constitution, protects ALL citizens, from witch-hunts, like this! This is the US, not Salem, Mass.! And everyone has a right to defend their property and their rights, right? For example, I have a rentla property Ocean Township. Unfortuantely for me, when I purchased this house 22 years ago as an investment, the onwer's son was a POS. The POS was arrested a few years after I bought the house for apparently molesting his daughter. So a few years ago, the POS gets out of jail, moves next door to another neightbor who took him in. And, the way the law is, no one is notified by the probation department, prosecutor etc. Luckily, I saw the POS walking around and made sure we all knew. After calling the probation department etc - the POS has more rights to privacy then do the rights of the surrounding neighbors and KIDS. While his picture is on the 'net, you have to check for yourself. Lucky for us, we have someone from Dan's old neighborhood who made it a point to show the POS a couple of things. 1)The toy in his belt 2) The property lines. Then, when you go to either SELL your house or RENT it - the landlord is NOT allowed to disclose that you have a POS living next door (that is, you're not supposed to, by law), but you can advise them to check out the internet for possible sex-offenders. So you may lose a tenant or 5, get around $400/month less (everyone has a price), or your home may be worth LESS. Think back - that is what happened to AP. Now you have to have some controls over the building, number of people to serve etc etc. The state pays good rent for approved adult daycare centers. You'll see more and more facilities located in former warehouses. Actually, there aren't enough locations for the demand. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
