Re: Contribute Pricing Question.
or £69 +VAT for the UK market. -- James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:31 PM Subject: Re: Contribute Pricing Question. $99.00 per seat = Douglas White group Manager mailto:doug;samcfug.org http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Ciliotta, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: Contribute Pricing Question. | Hi All, | | Does anyone know what the expected price is of Contribute? | | This is exactly what I have been looking for to allow my end-users to change the static text on the page while not touching my CFM and Javascript code. | | Mario | | This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. CREDIT SUISSE GROUP and each legal entity in the CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON or CREDIT SUISSE ASSET MANAGEMENT business units of CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. | Unless otherwise stated, any pricing information given in this message is indicative only, is subject to change and does not constitute an offer to deal at any price quoted. Any reference to the terms of executed transactions should be treated as preliminary only and subject to our formal written confirmation. | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: cfqueryparam in MX
-Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:sean;corfield.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 1:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfqueryparam in MX On Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002, at 08:09 US/Pacific, Zac Spitzer wrote: does cfqueryparam work with cached queries in MX? that is the only downside of cfqueryparam in Cf 5.0 I believe it is still the case that you cannot combine cfqueryparam with cachedwithin= on a cfquery (but I'm happy to be corrected!). I'm just here to confirm that Sean is correct. However, you could still, very easily, take the query and cache it in one of the persisted scopes. === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Hire Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
CF and MySQL insering/updating database
Hi, Something must be wrong with my syntax. When a user goes into his preferences they get a list of files with check boxes which is being generated from my database. They have the option of clicking multiple boxes which gets inserted into field strOmit in the same database it got the fields strDisplay to display the list. If I select additional check boxes after inserting the initial ones and update the database it wipes the contents of field strOmit and inserts the new entries. I just want it to add (append) the new entires, not delete the field and insert. Whats the correct SQL statements? Here is just a snippet of my code. application.cfm cfset auth = #CGI.AUTH_USER# In this example auth = Bill index.cfm cfquery name=ListElement datasource=profiles dbtype=ODBC SELECT * FROMprofiles WHERE strUsername = '#auth#' /cfquery form action=add-action.cfm method=post ...code clipped... input type=checkbox name=select value=#i# ...code clipped... input type=submit value=Update class=navlinks /form add-action.cfm cfquery name=GetEnv datasource=profiles dbtype=ODBC SELECT * FROMprofiles WHERE strUsername = '#auth#' /cfquery cfquery name=UpdEnv datasource=profiles dbtype=ODBC UPDATE profiles SET strUsername = '#auth#', strOmit=cfqueryparam value=#FORM.select# cfsqltype=CF_SQL_LONGVARCHAR WHERE strUsername = '#auth#' /cfquery --- Colonel Nathan R. Jessop Commanding Officer Marine Ground Forces Guatanamo Bay, Cuba --- ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: CF and MySQL insering/updating database
You are replacing what is in that field. You will need to get the contents of that field and append the new values to it then update that column. At least that is what I see going on. HTH Clint -Original Message- From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx;rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 7:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF and MySQL insering/updating database Hi, Something must be wrong with my syntax. When a user goes into his preferences they get a list of files with check boxes which is being generated from my database. They have the option of clicking multiple boxes which gets inserted into field strOmit in the same database it got the fields strDisplay to display the list. If I select additional check boxes after inserting the initial ones and update the database it wipes the contents of field strOmit and inserts the new entries. I just want it to add (append) the new entires, not delete the field and insert. Whats the correct SQL statements? Here is just a snippet of my code. application.cfm cfset auth = #CGI.AUTH_USER# In this example auth = Bill index.cfm cfquery name=ListElement datasource=profiles dbtype=ODBC SELECT * FROMprofiles WHERE strUsername = '#auth#' /cfquery form action=add-action.cfm method=post ...code clipped... input type=checkbox name=select value=#i# ...code clipped... input type=submit value=Update class=navlinks /form add-action.cfm cfquery name=GetEnv datasource=profiles dbtype=ODBC SELECT * FROMprofiles WHERE strUsername = '#auth#' /cfquery cfquery name=UpdEnv datasource=profiles dbtype=ODBC UPDATE profiles SET strUsername = '#auth#', strOmit=cfqueryparam value=#FORM.select# cfsqltype=CF_SQL_LONGVARCHAR WHERE strUsername = '#auth#' /cfquery --- Colonel Nathan R. Jessop Commanding Officer Marine Ground Forces Guatanamo Bay, Cuba --- ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: cfscript book
Personally, I prefer using CFScript over regular CF when I can use it. First, it's much easier to set a bunch of variables inside a CFScript block (IMO). Second, I find it easier to read CFScript logic blocks. Finally, it IS faster when you do something beyond very basic stuff, and (again, IMO) it makes for a more compact page of code. Add to that a bunch of _GREAT_ UDF's in CFLIB (http://www.cflib.org/) and you CAN actually mimic the functionality of a good number of regular CF tags. Pete - Original Message - From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:57 PM Subject: RE: cfscript book now I am asking all of these questions, is cfscript really that good to use? or could I go all day long using cftags and never see much performance difference ..tony ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: CF TIME SHEET
Paris, I know that the developer of guitarists.net has written a rather extensive time sheet application that he might sell (tracks sick time, personal time, vacation time, etc.). I don't remember his email address right off hand but I'm sure there is probably a link on his website. Cutter Falcon Knives Paris Lundis writes: Does anyone have/recommend an employee timesheet type application that might be out there already? -paris Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Moving a Cold Fusion server
I have Cold Fusion 5 running on RedHat 7.2 and I have a need to re-build the system. I'll spare you the off-topic details of why. Anyway, I want to move everything to a temporary server with as little pain as possible. Assuming the directory structure is set up the same... can I just tar up the /usr/local/coldfusion directory and dump it onto the new server along with the init scripts found in /etc/rc.d? (The other fun part will be of course moving all the MySQL databases and the qmail server, but that's a whole 'nother topic for a whole 'nother list!) - Rick ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
Hi, We are building an e-commerce site that is specifically targeted to a Canadian market. Most of our work has either been US domestic or so international that we use a 3rd party to do the calculations. Anyway, anyone know of or have a quick reference to how sales taxes are calculated in Canada and to what they apply? (ie I believe one of the taxes applies to another tax, and are shipping charges generally taxed?) We are having trouble getting information out of our client that is accurate in this area. Thanks, Matt ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
CF and UPS WorldShip?
Does anyone know if it's possible for CF to talk to UPS WorldShip to calc shipping prices? I've Googled and searched the archive but can't find anything. Has anyone done this before? I've been using Ben Forta's CF_UPSPrice custom tag to get pricing from the UPS web site, but I'd like to get away from relying on an http connection to get my pricing. Chris Lofback Sr. Web Developer TRX Integration 28051 US 19 N., Ste. C Clearwater, FL 33761 www.trxi.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
IIS Error when using cflocation
Has anyone seen this error : HTTP/1.1 302 Object Moved Location: ../index.cfm Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Length: 135 We are using Internet Explorer 6 / Netscape 7 to click a link, yet we get the same error. We are not using a proxy. ? Neil ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
OT: Mass email marketing
Folks, I need some solid information on mass email marketing. If anyone has some experience in this area and would like to share some general advice, please email me off-list. I have a client who thinks he's going to make a million on a Spam campaign for coffee g. -Mark ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)
Ditto - we've done 2 aps with rave reviews and we are working on 2 more. -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:Stacy.Young;sfcommerce.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Remoting rocks. -Original Message- From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:Peter.Tilbrook;abcb.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Memories of claims about Spectra's capabilities come to mind. Flash Remoting certainly is a timely idea that could enable some very impressive applications. However, the marriage of Flash and CF is far from perfect. People talk of the possibilities and show examples that wow developers, but the truth is that organizations who are trying to build complex applications that make use of Flash Remoting are finding serious problems. We have been working with Flash Remoting since the beginning and have found it to be a constant struggle. Complex objects are corrupted and line endings are changed as data is marshaled. Flash Remoting itself is different in functionality and behavior from CFMX to J2EE to .NET. The documentation is spares to non-existent, while at the same time misleading on occasion. Worst of all, Macromedia has only acknowledged out findings and has offered no solutions. Flash Remoting is a great idea, but it simply isn't all there. Like any 1.0 product, buyer beware. I look forward to the day when the issues are fixed. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: David Hannum (Ohio University) [mailto:hannum;ohio.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. Everyone seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a little over a year ago. ~~ Do you think MM will keep CF around if it starts to tank? Phat chance. If the software doesn't sail, these captains jump before the women and children. I know I'm not the only one who learned Generator. :) MM bought Allaire, not because there was anything wrong with it, but because there was so much right with it. When you can do as much and more with CFMX and Flash MX than you could with Generator, with much less cost and far less server overhead, why shouldn't you abandon Generator? The cfm/fla marriage is perfect. Cost to performance and capability, it's positioned to be the greatest thing since soft butter! If you've read the postings of people who attended DevCon, you'll notice an extreme optimism among CF'ers. MM is taking CF Flash to the lead in a new wave of internet applications. And the neat part is, MM is making it possible for PHP, ASP and Java to play too! I was very skeptical when MM purchased Allaire. But they keep showing me a stronger and stronger commitment. I have no trouble staying with MM. They've shown that they are making CF one of their flagship products. As for dropping a product when it's outlived its useful life, that's just good business. That does not make a company bad. Generator's life had come to an end when it became apparent that client side power was practicle with the advances in Flash. CF is a much better server side solution to power that. Dropping Generator was not a bad idea on MM's part. It was a very good idea. Good business. Dave ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Mass email marketing
It might be worth pointing the client to a recent article in Time: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,110102-386956,00.html At least he'd get a more realistic, general picture -- Kelly Tetterton duoDesign -- Technical Lead Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer Internet design, technology and marketing 847-491-3000 | main 847-491-3100 | fax 847-491-7125 | direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.duoDesign.com -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Mass email marketing Folks, I need some solid information on mass email marketing. If anyone has some experience in this area and would like to share some general advice, please email me off-list. I have a client who thinks he's going to make a million on a Spam campaign for coffee g. -Mark ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: IIS Error when using cflocation
I've had problems occasionally with cflocation returning errors, especially to Macs. In a couple of instances, I've had to replace it with a javascript redirect. However, your error message is much more descriptive that the one I was getting. It may not be the same problem at all, but it seems to have the same result -- the thing bombs instead of redirecting properly. --Ben Doom Programmer General Lackey Moonbow Software : -Original Message- : From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) : [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo;csd.reedexpo.com] : Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:46 AM : To: CF-Talk : Subject: IIS Error when using cflocation : : : Has anyone seen this error : : : HTTP/1.1 302 Object Moved Location: ../index.cfm Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 : Content-Type: text/html Content-Length: 135 : : We are using Internet Explorer 6 / Netscape 7 to click a link, yet we get : the same error. We are not using a proxy. : : ? : : Neil : ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: cfscript book
Todd,
Would it be safe to say that the underlying code generated by a CFSCRIPT
block on CFMX would be virutally the same as code compiled using tag syntax?
-mk
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:todd;web-rat.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfscript book
Just becareful with mimicing cfinclude. I would hestitate to say that
cfscript block would bring you any performance gains under CFMX due to the
compiling.
Do your own speed test:
test.cfm:
cfset begin = getTickCount()
cfset finalIndx = 0
cfloop index=indx from=1 to=100 step=1
cfset finalIndx = incrementValue(finalIndx)
/cfloop
cfset end = getTickCount()
cfset total = end - begin
cfoutput#end# - #begin# = #total#/cfoutput
test1.cfm:
cfscript
begin = getTickCount();
finalIndx = 0;
for(indx=1;indx LTE 100; indx=indx+1){
finalIndx = incrementValue(finalIndx);
}
end = getTickCount();
total = end - begin;
writeoutput(end - begin = end);
/cfscript
test.cfm results: 2107909460 - 2107909460 = 0
test1.cfm results: 2107965773-2107965773=0
Not that this is an accurate test, but ... where's the gain in cfscript?
In the above case, you'll see that the regular tags were somewhat faster
than the cfscript block.
~Todd
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote:
Personally, I prefer using CFScript over regular CF when I can use it.
First, it's much easier to set a bunch of variables inside a CFScript
block
(IMO). Second, I find it easier to read CFScript logic blocks.
Finally,
it IS faster when you do something beyond very basic stuff, and (again,
IMO)
it makes for a more compact page of code. Add to that a bunch of _GREAT_
UDF's in CFLIB (http://www.cflib.org/) and you CAN actually mimic the
functionality of a good number of regular CF tags.
Pete
- Original Message -
From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:57 PM
Subject: RE: cfscript book
now I am asking all of these questions, is cfscript really that good to
use?
or could I go all day long using cftags and never see much performance
difference
..tony
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RE: Mass email marketing
Kelly, Thanks - that's helpful. -mk -Original Message- From: Kelly Tetterton [mailto:ktetterton;duodesign.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Mass email marketing It might be worth pointing the client to a recent article in Time: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,110102-386956,00.html At least he'd get a more realistic, general picture -- Kelly Tetterton duoDesign -- Technical Lead Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer Internet design, technology and marketing 847-491-3000 | main 847-491-3100 | fax 847-491-7125 | direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.duoDesign.com -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Mass email marketing Folks, I need some solid information on mass email marketing. If anyone has some experience in this area and would like to share some general advice, please email me off-list. I have a client who thinks he's going to make a million on a Spam campaign for coffee g. -Mark ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)
I agree. Here is a simple example for anyone to play with. http://www.fishermenstudios.com/mmugex.zip Clint -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Ditto - we've done 2 aps with rave reviews and we are working on 2 more. -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:Stacy.Young;sfcommerce.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Remoting rocks. -Original Message- From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:Peter.Tilbrook;abcb.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Memories of claims about Spectra's capabilities come to mind. Flash Remoting certainly is a timely idea that could enable some very impressive applications. However, the marriage of Flash and CF is far from perfect. People talk of the possibilities and show examples that wow developers, but the truth is that organizations who are trying to build complex applications that make use of Flash Remoting are finding serious problems. We have been working with Flash Remoting since the beginning and have found it to be a constant struggle. Complex objects are corrupted and line endings are changed as data is marshaled. Flash Remoting itself is different in functionality and behavior from CFMX to J2EE to .NET. The documentation is spares to non-existent, while at the same time misleading on occasion. Worst of all, Macromedia has only acknowledged out findings and has offered no solutions. Flash Remoting is a great idea, but it simply isn't all there. Like any 1.0 product, buyer beware. I look forward to the day when the issues are fixed. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: David Hannum (Ohio University) [mailto:hannum;ohio.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. Everyone seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a little over a year ago. ~~ Do you think MM will keep CF around if it starts to tank? Phat chance. If the software doesn't sail, these captains jump before the women and children. I know I'm not the only one who learned Generator. :) MM bought Allaire, not because there was anything wrong with it, but because there was so much right with it. When you can do as much and more with CFMX and Flash MX than you could with Generator, with much less cost and far less server overhead, why shouldn't you abandon Generator? The cfm/fla marriage is perfect. Cost to performance and capability, it's positioned to be the greatest thing since soft butter! If you've read the postings of people who attended DevCon, you'll notice an extreme optimism among CF'ers. MM is taking CF Flash to the lead in a new wave of internet applications. And the neat part is, MM is making it possible for PHP, ASP and Java to play too! I was very skeptical when MM purchased Allaire. But they keep showing me a stronger and stronger commitment. I have no trouble staying with MM. They've shown that they are making CF one of their flagship products. As for dropping a product when it's outlived its useful life, that's just good business. That does not make a company bad. Generator's life had come to an end when it became apparent that client side power was practicle with the advances in Flash. CF is a much better server side solution to power that. Dropping Generator was not a bad idea on MM's part. It was a very good idea. Good business. Dave ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: IIS Error when using cflocation
oi Ben!! try using this: cfheader name=location value=page_goes_here cfheader statuscode=302 statustext=Moved temporarily cfabort -- Critz Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer CFX_BotMaster Network=Efnet Channel=ColdFusion Blog=http://blog.ctzc.com; Wednesday, November 13, 2002, 9:57:20 AM, you wrote: BD I've had problems occasionally with cflocation returning errors, BD especially to Macs. BD In a couple of instances, I've had to replace it with a javascript redirect. BD However, your error message is much more descriptive that the one I was BD getting. It may not be the same problem at all, but it seems to have the BD same result -- the thing bombs instead of redirecting properly. BD --Ben Doom BD Programmer General Lackey BD Moonbow Software BD : -Original Message- BD : From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) BD : [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo;csd.reedexpo.com] BD : Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:46 AM BD : To: CF-Talk BD : Subject: IIS Error when using cflocation BD : BD : BD : Has anyone seen this error : BD : BD : HTTP/1.1 302 Object Moved Location: ../index.cfm Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 BD : Content-Type: text/html Content-Length: 135 BD : BD : We are using Internet Explorer 6 / Netscape 7 to click a link, yet we get BD : the same error. We are not using a proxy. BD : BD : ? BD : BD : Neil BD : BD ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: IIS Error when using cflocation
/me shrugs. As the site required JavaScript to work anyway, a simple window.location= worked just fine. I'll try that next time, though. Thanx. --Ben Doom Programmer General Lackey Moonbow Software : -Original Message- : From: Critz [mailto:critz;out.houseoffusion.org] : Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:04 AM : To: CF-Talk : Subject: Re: IIS Error when using cflocation : : : oi Ben!! : : try using this: : : cfheader name=location value=page_goes_here : cfheader statuscode=302 statustext=Moved temporarily : cfabort : : : -- : Critz : Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer : CFX_BotMaster Network=Efnet :Channel=ColdFusion Blog=http://blog.ctzc.com; : : : : : : Wednesday, November 13, 2002, 9:57:20 AM, you wrote: : : BD I've had problems occasionally with cflocation returning errors, : BD especially to Macs. : : BD In a couple of instances, I've had to replace it with a : javascript redirect. : : BD However, your error message is much more descriptive that the : one I was : BD getting. It may not be the same problem at all, but it seems : to have the : BD same result -- the thing bombs instead of redirecting properly. : : : : BD --Ben Doom : BD Programmer General Lackey : BD Moonbow Software : : BD : -Original Message- : BD : From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) : BD : [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo;csd.reedexpo.com] : BD : Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:46 AM : BD : To: CF-Talk : BD : Subject: IIS Error when using cflocation : BD : : BD : : BD : Has anyone seen this error : : BD : : BD : HTTP/1.1 302 Object Moved Location: ../index.cfm Server: : Microsoft-IIS/5.0 : BD : Content-Type: text/html Content-Length: 135 : BD : : BD : We are using Internet Explorer 6 / Netscape 7 to click a : link, yet we get : BD : the same error. We are not using a proxy. : BD : : BD : ? : BD : : BD : Neil : BD : : BD : ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Missing Web Service Operation
I am baffled:
A CFC that executes perfectly when invoked as a component from the host
machine fails to execute when invoked as a web service from another CFMX
server.
Here is the error message: Web service operation retTextBox with
parameters..{params listed here}could not be found. Obviously, It
cant find the method.
I have verified that all syntax, both in the CFC and the webservice call is
correct. I've tried invoking the webservice with the CFINVOKE tag passing
individual argument tags, via CFINVOKE with a single argumentCollection,
and via createObject() within a CF Script block - all to no avail. None of
the ways seem to find the method.
I've tried renaming the method, and tried to access other methods in the
CFC to no avail - cant find any of the methods in the CFC. I removed the
Web Service from the CF Admin, restarted the CF service, re-added the
service and nada.
I even copied and pasted all of the functions into a new CFC with a new
name, added the Web Service and restarted the CF Service - same thing - can
find the method.
Anyone with suggestions?!
Thanks!
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RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)
Have you tried using Flash Remoting with anything other than CFMX? Have you tried marshalling complex objects? Have you tried marshalling objects with large blocks of text? Have you tried any of the above on mixed platforms i.e. Windows and Linux? Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Ditto - we've done 2 aps with rave reviews and we are working on 2 more. -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:Stacy.Young;sfcommerce.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Remoting rocks. -Original Message- From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:Peter.Tilbrook;abcb.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Memories of claims about Spectra's capabilities come to mind. Flash Remoting certainly is a timely idea that could enable some very impressive applications. However, the marriage of Flash and CF is far from perfect. People talk of the possibilities and show examples that wow developers, but the truth is that organizations who are trying to build complex applications that make use of Flash Remoting are finding serious problems. We have been working with Flash Remoting since the beginning and have found it to be a constant struggle. Complex objects are corrupted and line endings are changed as data is marshaled. Flash Remoting itself is different in functionality and behavior from CFMX to J2EE to .NET. The documentation is spares to non-existent, while at the same time misleading on occasion. Worst of all, Macromedia has only acknowledged out findings and has offered no solutions. Flash Remoting is a great idea, but it simply isn't all there. Like any 1.0 product, buyer beware. I look forward to the day when the issues are fixed. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: David Hannum (Ohio University) [mailto:hannum;ohio.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. Everyone seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a little over a year ago. ~~ Do you think MM will keep CF around if it starts to tank? Phat chance. If the software doesn't sail, these captains jump before the women and children. I know I'm not the only one who learned Generator. :) MM bought Allaire, not because there was anything wrong with it, but because there was so much right with it. When you can do as much and more with CFMX and Flash MX than you could with Generator, with much less cost and far less server overhead, why shouldn't you abandon Generator? The cfm/fla marriage is perfect. Cost to performance and capability, it's positioned to be the greatest thing since soft butter! If you've read the postings of people who attended DevCon, you'll notice an extreme optimism among CF'ers. MM is taking CF Flash to the lead in a new wave of internet applications. And the neat part is, MM is making it possible for PHP, ASP and Java to play too! I was very skeptical when MM purchased Allaire. But they keep showing me a stronger and stronger commitment. I have no trouble staying with MM. They've shown that they are making CF one of their flagship products. As for dropping a product when it's outlived its useful life, that's just good business. That does not make a company bad. Generator's life had come to an end when it became apparent that client side power was practicle with the advances in Flash. CF is a much better server side solution to power that. Dropping Generator was not a bad idea on MM's part. It was a very good idea. Good business. Dave ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: Mass email marketing
Spam makes money ;) Just do it legally and honor removes and don't try to spoof and you will stay within the law. Of course when you start doing any bulk email you get the antispam fanatics into a fuss. But on the general Mass Email Marketing is very productive and can generate alot of money at very low cost. I can send you some server setup recommendations if you want as to how to send the most for the least amount of time or bandwidth and how to keep all messages customized and easily track email addresses so you can remove people even whent hey are behind spamcop or such or even to work the message enough to get through 99% of spam filters. But in all reality if you're not being a jerk and are actually sending real offers to real people and you honor removes and dont flood peoples mail servers too much (like with hotmail send every 4 hours, same with yahoo) you should be fine. And you might want to switch your domain name you will mail the offers from to something like registerfly.com which is mass email friendly. Some registerents will shut you off for sending bulk email so becareful. If you want anymore thoughts just give me an email offlist - Original Message - From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:01 AM Subject: RE: Mass email marketing Kelly, Thanks - that's helpful. -mk -Original Message- From: Kelly Tetterton [mailto:ktetterton;duodesign.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Mass email marketing It might be worth pointing the client to a recent article in Time: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,110102-386956,00.html At least he'd get a more realistic, general picture -- Kelly Tetterton duoDesign -- Technical Lead Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer Internet design, technology and marketing 847-491-3000 | main 847-491-3100 | fax 847-491-7125 | direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.duoDesign.com -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Mass email marketing Folks, I need some solid information on mass email marketing. If anyone has some experience in this area and would like to share some general advice, please email me off-list. I have a client who thinks he's going to make a million on a Spam campaign for coffee g. -Mark ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)
Matt, What we have done is created 2 great applications under budget and before the deadline - increasing our margin by 15%. We have clients begging for more. That makes the ROI on flash remoting looking pretty darn good. In fact, I'm looking to hire a full time Flash guy in January. Your points may be valid. Yes flash remoting is version 1.0, but Flash remoting has great promise - and great functionality now. What if everyone gave up on HTML in the early days because of its lack of this or that. So we have to go a different route when we need mixed platforms and marshalling complex objects. And as for remoting with something other than CFMX - why should I? Part of my business is pitching that particular platform - something we do quite successfully I might add. Some of us are simply replacing clunky HTML interfaces with a brand new user experience - and flash remoting really is a superior choice for that task. When YOU scream about something I say wait and see. When my clients start screaming - then I'll worry g. -mk -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Have you tried using Flash Remoting with anything other than CFMX? Have you tried marshalling complex objects? Have you tried marshalling objects with large blocks of text? Have you tried any of the above on mixed platforms i.e. Windows and Linux? Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Ditto - we've done 2 aps with rave reviews and we are working on 2 more. -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:Stacy.Young;sfcommerce.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Remoting rocks. -Original Message- From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:Peter.Tilbrook;abcb.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Memories of claims about Spectra's capabilities come to mind. Flash Remoting certainly is a timely idea that could enable some very impressive applications. However, the marriage of Flash and CF is far from perfect. People talk of the possibilities and show examples that wow developers, but the truth is that organizations who are trying to build complex applications that make use of Flash Remoting are finding serious problems. We have been working with Flash Remoting since the beginning and have found it to be a constant struggle. Complex objects are corrupted and line endings are changed as data is marshaled. Flash Remoting itself is different in functionality and behavior from CFMX to J2EE to .NET. The documentation is spares to non-existent, while at the same time misleading on occasion. Worst of all, Macromedia has only acknowledged out findings and has offered no solutions. Flash Remoting is a great idea, but it simply isn't all there. Like any 1.0 product, buyer beware. I look forward to the day when the issues are fixed. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: David Hannum (Ohio University) [mailto:hannum;ohio.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. Everyone seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a little over a year ago. ~~ Do you think MM will keep CF around if it starts to tank? Phat chance. If the software doesn't sail, these captains jump before the women and children. I know I'm not the only one who learned Generator. :) MM bought Allaire, not because there was anything wrong with it, but because there was so much right with it. When you can do as much and more with CFMX and Flash MX than you could with Generator, with much less cost and far less server overhead, why shouldn't you abandon Generator? The cfm/fla marriage is perfect. Cost to performance and capability, it's positioned to be the greatest thing since soft butter! If you've read the postings of people who attended DevCon, you'll notice an extreme optimism among CF'ers. MM is taking CF Flash to the lead in a new wave of internet applications. And the neat part is, MM is making it possible for PHP, ASP and Java to play too! I was very skeptical when MM purchased Allaire. But they keep showing me a stronger and stronger commitment. I have no trouble staying with MM. They've shown that they are making CF one of their flagship
Flash Com and CFUG meeting
I watched the nycfug meeting last night using Flash Com and noticed that the audio and video were pretty choppy. While doing some internal testing of Flash Com in the office we have noticed the same kind of performance. Anyway else using this new feature and seeing the same issues? Thank you, Dan Phillips Express Technologies, Inc. dba HalfPriceHosting, CFXHosting and Invotion. www.HalfPriceHosting.com www.CFXHosting.com www.Invotion.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: E-Commerce site for Canada
What province would this be in? There is GST on a federal basis which is 7%, but there is also sales tax in most provinces, and the rates vary. Dawn Hi, We are building an e-commerce site that is specifically targeted to a Canadian market. Most of our work has either been US domestic or so international that we use a 3rd party to do the calculations. Anyway, anyone know of or have a quick reference to how sales taxes are calculated in Canada and to what they apply? (ie I believe one of the taxes applies to another tax, and are shipping charges generally taxed?) We are having trouble getting information out of our client that is accurate in this area. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
java cfx and administrator woes
I'm having a bit of trouble on the java side of things and was hoping someone could help. Two problems, actually, but I feel they may be related so I'll just throw them both out in the hopes that there may be a single solution to both. First, when ever I try to use any of the browse functionality within the cf administrator, the applet(it is an applet, right?) fails to load and instead displays an error message within the applet window, something similar to this: exception: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/Targ(cut off can't read) I've posted a screen shot: https://160.125.208.40/adminJavaError.jpg The problem only occurs in ie (6.0.2600.); netscape 4.7 works fine. I'm also having a problem getting cfx_rapidDiet to run as well. On my local install of mx (127.0.0.1:8500), it works without problem, but on the cf 5 server, it won't work. java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: rapidDiet. Java exception occurred in call to method. I've searched the macromedia forums pretty extensively. I didn't spot much on the administrator problem. The cfx problem has many posts, but most seem to be related to proper configuration settings for the jvm and class paths in administrator, which I think I have. I've tried just about every permutation, and restarted the service each time to test. Could the two be related? I just installed the latest Java SDK(j2sdk-1_4_0_02-windows-i586.exe), hoping it would help, but no dice. Any suggestions on what to try next? Matthew P. Smith Web Developer, Object Oriented Naval Education Training Professional Development Technology Center (NETPDTC) (850)452-1001 ext. 1245 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)
I certainly didn't advocate not using Flash Remoting. I was simply making others aware of problems with it and reminding them that it is a 1.0 product. I did this because of a post exclaiming the perfect marriage of CF and Flash. I felt that your post attempted to push under the rug the issues I raised by suggesting that it works great for you and therefore should work great for others. That might not have been your intent, but that is how I read it. I feel this list allows for us to share our experiences with our peers hopefully allowing the community to avoid the pitfalls others have made. I was simply doing my duty to explain the pitfalls we have ran into. It is great that your particular applications didn't run into the same issues, but that doesn't change the fact that the issues exist. We will continue to use Flash Remoting because it is a solution for us. However, in hindsight I wouldn't have relied so heavily on it knowing what I know now. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Matt, What we have done is created 2 great applications under budget and before the deadline - increasing our margin by 15%. We have clients begging for more. That makes the ROI on flash remoting looking pretty darn good. In fact, I'm looking to hire a full time Flash guy in January. Your points may be valid. Yes flash remoting is version 1.0, but Flash remoting has great promise - and great functionality now. What if everyone gave up on HTML in the early days because of its lack of this or that. So we have to go a different route when we need mixed platforms and marshalling complex objects. And as for remoting with something other than CFMX - why should I? Part of my business is pitching that particular platform - something we do quite successfully I might add. Some of us are simply replacing clunky HTML interfaces with a brand new user experience - and flash remoting really is a superior choice for that task. When YOU scream about something I say wait and see. When my clients start screaming - then I'll worry g. -mk -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Have you tried using Flash Remoting with anything other than CFMX? Have you tried marshalling complex objects? Have you tried marshalling objects with large blocks of text? Have you tried any of the above on mixed platforms i.e. Windows and Linux? Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Ditto - we've done 2 aps with rave reviews and we are working on 2 more. -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:Stacy.Young;sfcommerce.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Remoting rocks. -Original Message- From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:Peter.Tilbrook;abcb.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Memories of claims about Spectra's capabilities come to mind. Flash Remoting certainly is a timely idea that could enable some very impressive applications. However, the marriage of Flash and CF is far from perfect. People talk of the possibilities and show examples that wow developers, but the truth is that organizations who are trying to build complex applications that make use of Flash Remoting are finding serious problems. We have been working with Flash Remoting since the beginning and have found it to be a constant struggle. Complex objects are corrupted and line endings are changed as data is marshaled. Flash Remoting itself is different in functionality and behavior from CFMX to J2EE to .NET. The documentation is spares to non-existent, while at the same time misleading on occasion. Worst of all, Macromedia has only acknowledged out findings and has offered no solutions. Flash Remoting is a great idea, but it simply isn't all there. Like any 1.0 product, buyer beware. I look forward to the day when the issues are fixed. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: David Hannum (Ohio University) [mailto:hannum;ohio.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day
Re: java cfx and administrator woes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | Any suggestions on what to try next? do you have the CF 5.0 hotfixes installed? z -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE90nMU1lRHdy8ASusRAi9WAJ9ij1hsFR9XDwft+/0YuoNW+2vt5QCfe+ok 1sqA4Y8fy51re9SfhR7mHJM= =NmnJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: java cfx and administrator woes
Your 1st problem sounds like a browser issue, does IE6 have a java plugin installed? Try testing it with other java applets? -Original Message- From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:Matthew.P.Smith;cnet.navy.mil] Sent: 13 November 2002 15:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: java cfx and administrator woes I'm having a bit of trouble on the java side of things and was hoping someone could help. Two problems, actually, but I feel they may be related so I'll just throw them both out in the hopes that there may be a single solution to both. First, when ever I try to use any of the browse functionality within the cf administrator, the applet(it is an applet, right?) fails to load and instead displays an error message within the applet window, something similar to this: exception: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/Targ(cut off can't read) I've posted a screen shot: https://160.125.208.40/adminJavaError.jpg The problem only occurs in ie (6.0.2600.); netscape 4.7 works fine. I'm also having a problem getting cfx_rapidDiet to run as well. On my local install of mx (127.0.0.1:8500), it works without problem, but on the cf 5 server, it won't work. java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: rapidDiet. Java exception occurred in call to method. I've searched the macromedia forums pretty extensively. I didn't spot much on the administrator problem. The cfx problem has many posts, but most seem to be related to proper configuration settings for the jvm and class paths in administrator, which I think I have. I've tried just about every permutation, and restarted the service each time to test. Could the two be related? I just installed the latest Java SDK(j2sdk-1_4_0_02-windows-i586.exe), hoping it would help, but no dice. Any suggestions on what to try next? Matthew P. Smith Web Developer, Object Oriented Naval Education Training Professional Development Technology Center (NETPDTC) (850)452-1001 ext. 1245 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)
No No No Yes -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Have you tried using Flash Remoting with anything other than CFMX? Have you tried marshalling complex objects? Have you tried marshalling objects with large blocks of text? Have you tried any of the above on mixed platforms i.e. Windows and Linux? Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Ditto - we've done 2 aps with rave reviews and we are working on 2 more. -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:Stacy.Young;sfcommerce.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Remoting rocks. -Original Message- From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:Peter.Tilbrook;abcb.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Memories of claims about Spectra's capabilities come to mind. Flash Remoting certainly is a timely idea that could enable some very impressive applications. However, the marriage of Flash and CF is far from perfect. People talk of the possibilities and show examples that wow developers, but the truth is that organizations who are trying to build complex applications that make use of Flash Remoting are finding serious problems. We have been working with Flash Remoting since the beginning and have found it to be a constant struggle. Complex objects are corrupted and line endings are changed as data is marshaled. Flash Remoting itself is different in functionality and behavior from CFMX to J2EE to .NET. The documentation is spares to non-existent, while at the same time misleading on occasion. Worst of all, Macromedia has only acknowledged out findings and has offered no solutions. Flash Remoting is a great idea, but it simply isn't all there. Like any 1.0 product, buyer beware. I look forward to the day when the issues are fixed. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: David Hannum (Ohio University) [mailto:hannum;ohio.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. Everyone seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a little over a year ago. ~~ Do you think MM will keep CF around if it starts to tank? Phat chance. If the software doesn't sail, these captains jump before the women and children. I know I'm not the only one who learned Generator. :) MM bought Allaire, not because there was anything wrong with it, but because there was so much right with it. When you can do as much and more with CFMX and Flash MX than you could with Generator, with much less cost and far less server overhead, why shouldn't you abandon Generator? The cfm/fla marriage is perfect. Cost to performance and capability, it's positioned to be the greatest thing since soft butter! If you've read the postings of people who attended DevCon, you'll notice an extreme optimism among CF'ers. MM is taking CF Flash to the lead in a new wave of internet applications. And the neat part is, MM is making it possible for PHP, ASP and Java to play too! I was very skeptical when MM purchased Allaire. But they keep showing me a stronger and stronger commitment. I have no trouble staying with MM. They've shown that they are making CF one of their flagship products. As for dropping a product when it's outlived its useful life, that's just good business. That does not make a company bad. Generator's life had come to an end when it became apparent that client side power was practicle with the advances in Flash. CF is a much better server side solution to power that. Dropping Generator was not a bad idea on MM's part. It was a very good idea. Good business. Dave ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
IIS Administration
I need some help. Our end goal is to have users that are able to access IIS and create sites, edit sites all that fun stuff without being server administrators. So far we set up all the users and made them power users and granted operator so they can see the IIS stuff. But they are still unable to do anything serious in IIS.Can anyone point me in the right direction to do this. Thanks Mike ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)
Oh I definitely agree. One has to understand this is a 1.0. Buyer beware...was just expressing my fondness of remoting within our realm...So far, so good. Your original post was quite vague...would have been more helpful to include the specifics in the initial message... Cheers, Stace -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) I certainly didn't advocate not using Flash Remoting. I was simply making others aware of problems with it and reminding them that it is a 1.0 product. I did this because of a post exclaiming the perfect marriage of CF and Flash. I felt that your post attempted to push under the rug the issues I raised by suggesting that it works great for you and therefore should work great for others. That might not have been your intent, but that is how I read it. I feel this list allows for us to share our experiences with our peers hopefully allowing the community to avoid the pitfalls others have made. I was simply doing my duty to explain the pitfalls we have ran into. It is great that your particular applications didn't run into the same issues, but that doesn't change the fact that the issues exist. We will continue to use Flash Remoting because it is a solution for us. However, in hindsight I wouldn't have relied so heavily on it knowing what I know now. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Matt, What we have done is created 2 great applications under budget and before the deadline - increasing our margin by 15%. We have clients begging for more. That makes the ROI on flash remoting looking pretty darn good. In fact, I'm looking to hire a full time Flash guy in January. Your points may be valid. Yes flash remoting is version 1.0, but Flash remoting has great promise - and great functionality now. What if everyone gave up on HTML in the early days because of its lack of this or that. So we have to go a different route when we need mixed platforms and marshalling complex objects. And as for remoting with something other than CFMX - why should I? Part of my business is pitching that particular platform - something we do quite successfully I might add. Some of us are simply replacing clunky HTML interfaces with a brand new user experience - and flash remoting really is a superior choice for that task. When YOU scream about something I say wait and see. When my clients start screaming - then I'll worry g. -mk -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Have you tried using Flash Remoting with anything other than CFMX? Have you tried marshalling complex objects? Have you tried marshalling objects with large blocks of text? Have you tried any of the above on mixed platforms i.e. Windows and Linux? Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Ditto - we've done 2 aps with rave reviews and we are working on 2 more. -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:Stacy.Young;sfcommerce.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Remoting rocks. -Original Message- From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:Peter.Tilbrook;abcb.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Memories of claims about Spectra's capabilities come to mind. Flash Remoting certainly is a timely idea that could enable some very impressive applications. However, the marriage of Flash and CF is far from perfect. People talk of the possibilities and show examples that wow developers, but the truth is that organizations who are trying to build complex applications that make use of Flash Remoting are finding serious problems. We have been working with Flash Remoting since the beginning and have found it to be a constant struggle. Complex objects are corrupted and line endings are changed as data is marshaled. Flash Remoting itself is different in functionality and behavior from CFMX to J2EE to .NET. The documentation is spares to non-existent, while at the same time misleading on occasion. Worst of all, Macromedia has only acknowledged out findings and has offered no solutions.
RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)
Matt, can you provide examples of what you've run into with these issues? I'm a UI developer and I don't recognize the term marshalling. Thanks, -Kevin -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Have you tried using Flash Remoting with anything other than CFMX? Have you tried marshalling complex objects? Have you tried marshalling objects with large blocks of text? Have you tried any of the above on mixed platforms i.e. Windows and Linux? Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Ditto - we've done 2 aps with rave reviews and we are working on 2 more. -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:Stacy.Young;sfcommerce.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Remoting rocks. -Original Message- From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:Peter.Tilbrook;abcb.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Memories of claims about Spectra's capabilities come to mind. Flash Remoting certainly is a timely idea that could enable some very impressive applications. However, the marriage of Flash and CF is far from perfect. People talk of the possibilities and show examples that wow developers, but the truth is that organizations who are trying to build complex applications that make use of Flash Remoting are finding serious problems. We have been working with Flash Remoting since the beginning and have found it to be a constant struggle. Complex objects are corrupted and line endings are changed as data is marshaled. Flash Remoting itself is different in functionality and behavior from CFMX to J2EE to .NET. The documentation is spares to non-existent, while at the same time misleading on occasion. Worst of all, Macromedia has only acknowledged out findings and has offered no solutions. Flash Remoting is a great idea, but it simply isn't all there. Like any 1.0 product, buyer beware. I look forward to the day when the issues are fixed. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: David Hannum (Ohio University) [mailto:hannum;ohio.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. Everyone seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a little over a year ago. ~~ Do you think MM will keep CF around if it starts to tank? Phat chance. If the software doesn't sail, these captains jump before the women and children. I know I'm not the only one who learned Generator. :) MM bought Allaire, not because there was anything wrong with it, but because there was so much right with it. When you can do as much and more with CFMX and Flash MX than you could with Generator, with much less cost and far less server overhead, why shouldn't you abandon Generator? The cfm/fla marriage is perfect. Cost to performance and capability, it's positioned to be the greatest thing since soft butter! If you've read the postings of people who attended DevCon, you'll notice an extreme optimism among CF'ers. MM is taking CF Flash to the lead in a new wave of internet applications. And the neat part is, MM is making it possible for PHP, ASP and Java to play too! I was very skeptical when MM purchased Allaire. But they keep showing me a stronger and stronger commitment. I have no trouble staying with MM. They've shown that they are making CF one of their flagship products. As for dropping a product when it's outlived its useful life, that's just good business. That does not make a company bad. Generator's life had come to an end when it became apparent that client side power was practicle with the advances in Flash. CF is a much better server side solution to power that. Dropping Generator was not a bad idea on MM's part. It was a very good idea. Good business. Dave ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ:
Re: IIS Administration
- Original Message - From: Michael Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:52 AM Subject: IIS Administration I need some help. Our end goal is to have users that are able to access IIS and create sites, edit sites all that fun stuff without being server administrators. So far we set up all the users and made them power users and granted operator so they can see the IIS stuff. But they are still unable to do anything serious in IIS.Can anyone point me in the right direction to do this. Thanks Mike Mike, Try http://www.intrafoundation.com/ihtk.html -- there is a number of cfx tags that will let you control IIS, nt users, etc. I have not used it, but I have heard it works well. There may be other things like this on the tag gallery, too. Tim P. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
Matt - I just actually dissassembled a canada shipping/ tax piece on one of my clients sites I built. Basically here are the elements - 1) Broker Fee / Customs and all that - Typically a broker fee is involved - a percentage based fee. Includes a standard federal percetn fee too I believe. If not broker- then I guess jsut the federal - my clients used a Broker to eliminate this guessing. 2) Province tax - as much as 15% in Newfoundland 3) Exchange Rate 4) Your shipping rates - flat rate or carrier We applied tax pre-shipping cost - yet the broker fee I beleive needed to be on complete purchase. Hope this little bit helps. Feel free to email me off list if you wnat further details. jay miller P.S. THe rates i have for province are as follows ( please confirm them) ProvinceProvAbrTaxRate AlbertaAB7 British ColumbiaBC14 ManitobaMB14 New BrunswickNB15 NewfoundlandNF15 Northwest TerritoriesNT7 Nova ScotiaNS15 NunavutNT7 OntarioON15 Prince Edward IslandPE7 QuebecPQ16 SaskatchewanSK13 YukonYT7 Matthew Fusfield wrote: Hi, We are building an e-commerce site that is specifically targeted to a Canadian market. Most of our work has either been US domestic or so international that we use a 3rd party to do the calculations. Anyway, anyone know of or have a quick reference to how sales taxes are calculated in Canada and to what they apply? (ie I believe one of the taxes applies to another tax, and are shipping charges generally taxed?) We are having trouble getting information out of our client that is accurate in this area. Thanks, Matt ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: IIS Administration
I am not sure from you message just what control you want the users to have. I am not sure this is something I would want the users doing on my server, but there are scripts that you can make available which at least you would have control. I have been working with them and so far they work pretty good. I just need to alter them and combine them to do what I want. Then I plan to use coldfusion to launch them with parameters. This way the user can initate the actions, but I control what they can do in the script. Check out the scripts in C:\Inetpub\AdminScripts And also this link for 3rd party scripts; http://iisfaq.com/default.asp?View=A399P=109 I have not tested the scripts at this site yet, but they had some ones I was looking to write if I could not find them first. Hope this helps. Mike Byers -Original Message- From: Michael Ross [mailto:ross-5;medctr.osu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: IIS Administration I need some help. Our end goal is to have users that are able to access IIS and create sites, edit sites all that fun stuff without being server administrators. So far we set up all the users and made them power users and granted operator so they can see the IIS stuff. But they are still unable to do anything serious in IIS.Can anyone point me in the right direction to do this. Thanks Mike ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
You have to be careful on applying taxes...I believe it's the provincial tax followed by the GST (goods and services tax). - *think* that's the right order. This means tax on tax. After the provincial tax is applied you then apply the GST on the price PLUS the first tax. In effect, the actual tax rate in Quebec is 15.56%. I'm also not sure as to whether that method only applies to Quebec and not all the provinces... Cheers, Stace -Original Message- From: Jason Miller [mailto:millerj;etcnj.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada Matt - I just actually dissassembled a canada shipping/ tax piece on one of my clients sites I built. Basically here are the elements - 1) Broker Fee / Customs and all that - Typically a broker fee is involved - a percentage based fee. Includes a standard federal percetn fee too I believe. If not broker- then I guess jsut the federal - my clients used a Broker to eliminate this guessing. 2) Province tax - as much as 15% in Newfoundland 3) Exchange Rate 4) Your shipping rates - flat rate or carrier We applied tax pre-shipping cost - yet the broker fee I beleive needed to be on complete purchase. Hope this little bit helps. Feel free to email me off list if you wnat further details. jay miller P.S. THe rates i have for province are as follows ( please confirm them) ProvinceProvAbrTaxRate AlbertaAB7 British ColumbiaBC14 ManitobaMB14 New BrunswickNB15 NewfoundlandNF15 Northwest TerritoriesNT7 Nova ScotiaNS15 NunavutNT7 OntarioON15 Prince Edward IslandPE7 QuebecPQ16 SaskatchewanSK13 YukonYT7 Matthew Fusfield wrote: Hi, We are building an e-commerce site that is specifically targeted to a Canadian market. Most of our work has either been US domestic or so international that we use a 3rd party to do the calculations. Anyway, anyone know of or have a quick reference to how sales taxes are calculated in Canada and to what they apply? (ie I believe one of the taxes applies to another tax, and are shipping charges generally taxed?) We are having trouble getting information out of our client that is accurate in this area. Thanks, Matt ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
Thanks to Jason and everyone else who has emailed me off-list; I really appreciate your help! Matt -Original Message- From: Jason Miller [mailto:millerj;etcnj.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada Matt - I just actually dissassembled a canada shipping/ tax piece on one of my clients sites I built. Basically here are the elements - 1) Broker Fee / Customs and all that - Typically a broker fee is involved - a percentage based fee. Includes a standard federal percetn fee too I believe. If not broker- then I guess jsut the federal - my clients used a Broker to eliminate this guessing. 2) Province tax - as much as 15% in Newfoundland 3) Exchange Rate 4) Your shipping rates - flat rate or carrier We applied tax pre-shipping cost - yet the broker fee I beleive needed to be on complete purchase. Hope this little bit helps. Feel free to email me off list if you wnat further details. jay miller P.S. THe rates i have for province are as follows ( please confirm them) ProvinceProvAbrTaxRate AlbertaAB7 British ColumbiaBC14 ManitobaMB14 New BrunswickNB15 NewfoundlandNF15 Northwest TerritoriesNT7 Nova ScotiaNS15 NunavutNT7 OntarioON15 Prince Edward IslandPE7 QuebecPQ16 SaskatchewanSK13 YukonYT7 Matthew Fusfield wrote: Hi, We are building an e-commerce site that is specifically targeted to a Canadian market. Most of our work has either been US domestic or so international that we use a 3rd party to do the calculations. Anyway, anyone know of or have a quick reference to how sales taxes are calculated in Canada and to what they apply? (ie I believe one of the taxes applies to another tax, and are shipping charges generally taxed?) We are having trouble getting information out of our client that is accurate in this area. Thanks, Matt ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
Matt, Jason's info is a tad off in some casesI'm a Canuck...trust me ;-) For starters the brokerage fee and all that nonsense is only in play if the goods cross the border. That said, I have yet to see 1 US site add these fees to the price when shipping goods to Canada (we end up getting an additional bill from the CCRA...like IRS for you yanks). BTW that bill is often about half the cost of the goods! The rates for provinces are off and are combining 2 taxes (GST and PST and sometimes HST). These amounts need to be reported seperately. I've already contacted Matt offline, but for anyone else interested go here: http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/menu-e.html (like IRS) and follow the tax link...it should give all the details for each province. HTH Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Jason Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:10 AM Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada Matt - I just actually dissassembled a canada shipping/ tax piece on one of my clients sites I built. Basically here are the elements - 1) Broker Fee / Customs and all that - Typically a broker fee is involved - a percentage based fee. Includes a standard federal percetn fee too I believe. If not broker- then I guess jsut the federal - my clients used a Broker to eliminate this guessing. 2) Province tax - as much as 15% in Newfoundland 3) Exchange Rate 4) Your shipping rates - flat rate or carrier We applied tax pre-shipping cost - yet the broker fee I beleive needed to be on complete purchase. Hope this little bit helps. Feel free to email me off list if you wnat further details. jay miller P.S. THe rates i have for province are as follows ( please confirm them) ProvinceProvAbrTaxRate AlbertaAB7 British ColumbiaBC14 ManitobaMB14 New BrunswickNB15 NewfoundlandNF15 Northwest TerritoriesNT7 Nova ScotiaNS15 NunavutNT7 OntarioON15 Prince Edward IslandPE7 QuebecPQ16 SaskatchewanSK13 YukonYT7 Matthew Fusfield wrote: Hi, We are building an e-commerce site that is specifically targeted to a Canadian market. Most of our work has either been US domestic or so international that we use a 3rd party to do the calculations. Anyway, anyone know of or have a quick reference to how sales taxes are calculated in Canada and to what they apply? (ie I believe one of the taxes applies to another tax, and are shipping charges generally taxed?) We are having trouble getting information out of our client that is accurate in this area. Thanks, Matt ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
The tax on tax is only in 1 or 2 provinces and it's the PST on top of the GST... For the the love of hockey and good beerall Americans stop guessing :-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Stacy Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:11 AM Subject: RE: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada You have to be careful on applying taxes...I believe it's the provincial tax followed by the GST (goods and services tax). - *think* that's the right order. This means tax on tax. After the provincial tax is applied you then apply the GST on the price PLUS the first tax. In effect, the actual tax rate in Quebec is 15.56%. I'm also not sure as to whether that method only applies to Quebec and not all the provinces... Cheers, Stace -Original Message- From: Jason Miller [mailto:millerj;etcnj.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada Matt - I just actually dissassembled a canada shipping/ tax piece on one of my clients sites I built. Basically here are the elements - 1) Broker Fee / Customs and all that - Typically a broker fee is involved - a percentage based fee. Includes a standard federal percetn fee too I believe. If not broker- then I guess jsut the federal - my clients used a Broker to eliminate this guessing. 2) Province tax - as much as 15% in Newfoundland 3) Exchange Rate 4) Your shipping rates - flat rate or carrier We applied tax pre-shipping cost - yet the broker fee I beleive needed to be on complete purchase. Hope this little bit helps. Feel free to email me off list if you wnat further details. jay miller P.S. THe rates i have for province are as follows ( please confirm them) ProvinceProvAbrTaxRate AlbertaAB7 British ColumbiaBC14 ManitobaMB14 New BrunswickNB15 NewfoundlandNF15 Northwest TerritoriesNT7 Nova ScotiaNS15 NunavutNT7 OntarioON15 Prince Edward IslandPE7 QuebecPQ16 SaskatchewanSK13 YukonYT7 Matthew Fusfield wrote: Hi, We are building an e-commerce site that is specifically targeted to a Canadian market. Most of our work has either been US domestic or so international that we use a 3rd party to do the calculations. Anyway, anyone know of or have a quick reference to how sales taxes are calculated in Canada and to what they apply? (ie I believe one of the taxes applies to another tax, and are shipping charges generally taxed?) We are having trouble getting information out of our client that is accurate in this area. Thanks, Matt ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)
marshalling communications (US -ll- or -l-) The process of packing one or more items of data into a message buffer, prior to transmitting that message buffer over a communication channel. The packing process not only collects together values which may be stored in non-consecutive memory locations but also converts data of different types into a standard representation agreed with the recipient of the message. Each language has its own idea of what data types are and how they are represented. Whenever you want to pass data between different languages you need to have an agreed upon intermediary. Each language can then convert the data to and from the intermediary thus allowing inter-language communication. As such, when I speak of objects being corrupted during the marshalling process I am simply stating that the object sent from one end didn't end up on the other as expected. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:kgraeme;facstaff.wisc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:02 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Matt, can you provide examples of what you've run into with these issues? I'm a UI developer and I don't recognize the term marshalling. Thanks, -Kevin -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Have you tried using Flash Remoting with anything other than CFMX? Have you tried marshalling complex objects? Have you tried marshalling objects with large blocks of text? Have you tried any of the above on mixed platforms i.e. Windows and Linux? Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Ditto - we've done 2 aps with rave reviews and we are working on 2 more. -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:Stacy.Young;sfcommerce.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Remoting rocks. -Original Message- From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:Peter.Tilbrook;abcb.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Memories of claims about Spectra's capabilities come to mind. Flash Remoting certainly is a timely idea that could enable some very impressive applications. However, the marriage of Flash and CF is far from perfect. People talk of the possibilities and show examples that wow developers, but the truth is that organizations who are trying to build complex applications that make use of Flash Remoting are finding serious problems. We have been working with Flash Remoting since the beginning and have found it to be a constant struggle. Complex objects are corrupted and line endings are changed as data is marshaled. Flash Remoting itself is different in functionality and behavior from CFMX to J2EE to NET. The documentation is spares to non-existent, while at the same time misleading on occasion. Worst of all, Macromedia has only acknowledged out findings and has offered no solutions. Flash Remoting is a great idea, but it simply isn't all there. Like any 1.0 product, buyer beware. I look forward to the day when the issues are fixed. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: David Hannum (Ohio University) [mailto:hannum;ohio.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. Everyone seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a little over a year ago. ~~ Do you think MM will keep CF around if it starts to tank? Phat chance. If the software doesn't sail, these captains jump before the women and children. I know I'm not the only one who learned Generator. :) MM bought Allaire, not because there was anything wrong with it, but because there was so much right with it. When you can do as much and more with CFMX and Flash MX than you could with Generator, with much less cost and far less server overhead, why shouldn't you abandon Generator? The cfm/fla marriage is perfect. Cost to performance and capability, it's positioned to be the greatest thing
RE: IIS Administration
I agree this isn't something I want them to do, but our managers have made the decision that because we are so short staffed we need to train them to take some of the load off of us. I will look into the scripts... Thanks for your help [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/13/02 11:18AM I am not sure from you message just what control you want the users to have. I am not sure this is something I would want the users doing on my server, but there are scripts that you can make available which at least you would have control. I have been working with them and so far they work pretty good. I just need to alter them and combine them to do what I want. Then I plan to use coldfusion to launch them with parameters. This way the user can initate the actions, but I control what they can do in the script. Check out the scripts in C:\Inetpub\AdminScripts And also this link for 3rd party scripts; http://iisfaq.com/default.asp?View=A399P=109 I have not tested the scripts at this site yet, but they had some ones I was looking to write if I could not find them first. Hope this helps. Mike Byers -Original Message- From: Michael Ross [mailto:ross-5;medctr.osu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: IIS Administration I need some help. Our end goal is to have users that are able to access IIS and create sites, edit sites all that fun stuff without being server administrators. So far we set up all the users and made them power users and granted operator so they can see the IIS stuff. But they are still unable to do anything serious in IIS.Can anyone point me in the right direction to do this. Thanks Mike ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Mass email marketing
When doing mass mailings in CF via CFMAIL I do a couple of things to keep from getting black flagged by MSN and AOL: 1. Send email messages as individual items via a routine that throttles down the send rate. Blasting out hundreds of messages to AOL accts in an instant caused them to clamp down on one of my clients and deny mail with 'unknown recipient' messages for a short period of time. Same thing happened to their hotmail-using members. I use a rate of 14400 per hour (60 msgs every 15 seconds). Obviously not so great for really big stuff. No idea what any sort of upper threshold is. 2. Use cfmailparam to prop up cfmail's crummy header info. Before using these my own server side anti-spam software failed cfmail messages on two tests. cfmailparam name=Reply-To value=#senderaddress# cfmailparam name=Message-ID value=#CreateUUID()##validemailservername# --Matt Robertson-- MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Mass email marketing Folks, I need some solid information on mass email marketing. If anyone has some experience in this area and would like to share some general advice, please email me off-list. I have a client who thinks he's going to make a million on a Spam campaign for coffee g. -Mark ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: Flash Com and CFUG meeting
I watched last night and had the same reaction. AFAIK, Michael was using a 1Gig RAM processor and a 48Kb modem? But the choppiness was better than at DevCon where they had a DSL link. I have been told that there is a memory leak somewhere in the system -- the choppiness gets worse over time. Every 10-15 minutes some one (usually me) would complain and they would refresh the system (whatever that is), and quality would markedly improve. I don't know if it is: Memory Leak, CPU speed, Bandwidth, RAM size, Buffering, or what -- but this choppiness is the biggest negative to the system, Once they get that resolved, I expect we will see enhancements in image size resolution and other features -- that's just technology. I certainly hope they get the choppiness fixed -- this could be a fantastic solution to a lot of communication needs. It could change the world of presentations -- for both the presenters and the audience. Dick On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 07:29 AM, Dan Phillips wrote: I watched the nycfug meeting last night using Flash Com and noticed that the audio and video were pretty choppy. While doing some internal testing of Flash Com in the office we have noticed the same kind of performance. Anyway else using this new feature and seeing the same issues? Thank you, Dan Phillips Express Technologies, Inc. dba HalfPriceHosting, CFXHosting and Invotion. www.HalfPriceHosting.com www.CFXHosting.com www.Invotion.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: java cfx and administrator woes
I looked over those listed here: http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=20371Method=Full#50 The only one that seemed to remotely apply was: ColdFusion Server 5: Hot Fix for Applets When Using Java Plug-in Versions Greater Than 1.3.1_01a ( Article 23150 ) I installed as required but no change. Is there a different one I should try? Thanks, Matt -Original Message- From: Zac Spitzer [mailto:zac;datagear.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: java cfx and administrator woes -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | Any suggestions on what to try next? do you have the CF 5.0 hotfixes installed? z -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE90nMU1lRHdy8ASusRAi9WAJ9ij1hsFR9XDwft+/0YuoNW+2vt5QCfe+ok 1sqA4Y8fy51re9SfhR7mHJM= =NmnJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
At 11:11 AM 13/11/02 -0500, Stacy Young wrote: This means tax on tax. After the provincial tax is applied you then apply the GST on the price PLUS the first tax. In effect, the actual tax rate in Quebec is 15.56%. This is correct. For all provinces that have both GST and PST, the PST is applied after the GST. Provinces with HST (like Nova Scotia) are a flat 15%. T ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Mass email marketing
as much as i love CF :) It didnt have the speed to do what i needed. Closest thing was Howies Software which was very good but we didnt have time to wait for his newest version. - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:14 AM Subject: RE: Mass email marketing When doing mass mailings in CF via CFMAIL I do a couple of things to keep from getting black flagged by MSN and AOL: 1. Send email messages as individual items via a routine that throttles down the send rate. Blasting out hundreds of messages to AOL accts in an instant caused them to clamp down on one of my clients and deny mail with 'unknown recipient' messages for a short period of time. Same thing happened to their hotmail-using members. I use a rate of 14400 per hour (60 msgs every 15 seconds). Obviously not so great for really big stuff. No idea what any sort of upper threshold is. 2. Use cfmailparam to prop up cfmail's crummy header info. Before using these my own server side anti-spam software failed cfmail messages on two tests. cfmailparam name=Reply-To value=#senderaddress# cfmailparam name=Message-ID value=#CreateUUID()#@#validemailservername# --Matt Robertson-- MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Mass email marketing Folks, I need some solid information on mass email marketing. If anyone has some experience in this area and would like to share some general advice, please email me off-list. I have a client who thinks he's going to make a million on a Spam campaign for coffee g. -Mark ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
CF and UPS WorldShip?
I've worked with UPS Worldship before. I don't believe you can call Worldship to get shipping prices into CF. What I have done with it is exported order records from the CF app to Worldship to generate the shipping manifests. -Phil ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Flash Com and CFUG meeting
Thanks for the comments Dick. I was wondering is maybe adjusting the image and sound quality on the web cam would work as well. I will be playing with that myself over the next few days. I too noticed the 10-15 minute bug you mentioned. In our office, it got the the point where I could not only be on my cam, but on one accross the office as well because of images freezing. Audio by itself and video by itself seemed to be ok. Once we did both, that's when things would slowly start to lag. -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:dicklacara;mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash Com and CFUG meeting I watched last night and had the same reaction. AFAIK, Michael was using a 1Gig RAM processor and a 48Kb modem? But the choppiness was better than at DevCon where they had a DSL link. I have been told that there is a memory leak somewhere in the system -- the choppiness gets worse over time. Every 10-15 minutes some one (usually me) would complain and they would refresh the system (whatever that is), and quality would markedly improve. I don't know if it is: Memory Leak, CPU speed, Bandwidth, RAM size, Buffering, or what -- but this choppiness is the biggest negative to the system, Once they get that resolved, I expect we will see enhancements in image size resolution and other features -- that's just technology. I certainly hope they get the choppiness fixed -- this could be a fantastic solution to a lot of communication needs. It could change the world of presentations -- for both the presenters and the audience. Dick On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 07:29 AM, Dan Phillips wrote: I watched the nycfug meeting last night using Flash Com and noticed that the audio and video were pretty choppy. While doing some internal testing of Flash Com in the office we have noticed the same kind of performance. Anyway else using this new feature and seeing the same issues? Thank you, Dan Phillips Express Technologies, Inc. dba HalfPriceHosting, CFXHosting and Invotion. www.HalfPriceHosting.com www.CFXHosting.com www.Invotion.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
We have two levels of sales tax--GST at 7% which is a federal tax and must be collected by the merchant and submitted to the feds directly via a special remission process, which includes detailed reporting. There are certain goods that are GST exempt (food for one). Certain businesses are GST exempt (mostly government services), but I don't know all the exemptions. GST reports must be remitted bases on whatever reporting period the business has opted for, or in some cases, the reporting periods are enforced. Usually it's quarterly, some are annual, some do it monthly--depends on volume in part. In some cases services provided for minors are tax exempt (e.g., swimming classes for kids under 14). It isn't all that straightforward--so you'll need to know the nature of the goods or services being sold, and the audience it is sold to. In addition to that we have sales tax in most provinces--each province has a separate rate. This tax must be submitted to the appropriate provincial governments and is separate and distinct from the GST. Each province has their own set of rules--again certain goods are exempt. Also, if you reside in a tax exempt province (as I do in Alberta) and buy goods in a province that has sales tax where you plan to use the goods in the province of your residence (eg. I buy a car in BC but reside in tax-exempt Alberta and will use it here), you can be exempt. I'm not sure if that's the case in all provinces, but it is in BC. Once again, each province is regulated differerent. Jason talks about a brokerage fee--his explanation is a bit unclear. But it sounds like what is happening is that the client he is referring to uses a broker to clear imported goods, and that percentage fee is a service fee paid to the broker--this isn't a tax issue, this is a business decision. Brokers typically remit duty and GST for you and that is included in their invoice, along with their service charge. In order to clear the goods and have them released, they remit all taxes including GST and duty to the feds (Receiver General) and then collect from their client. This is an issue most ecomm sites wouldn't have to go near. Depending on the size of the business, they might want to talk to a logistics specialist at a customs broker to make sure they have a proper workflow in place. I don't have a clue what happens to tax when you sell to the US from Canada. Note that this is a very cursory explanation, and much more detail would be needed. I do know our banks here aren't particularly keen on ecommerce, especially with physical goods, and they have been known to impose very high security deposits to cover possible chargebacks. I looked into this for a furniture company, and they were told they would have to put up the equivalent of 3 months sales for VISA--which would have been hundreds of thousands of dollars. Interestingly, American Express required no deposit. But this is far from the issue of CF---if anyone has any questions they feel I might be able to help with, please feel free to email me. My knowledge is only that of a Canadian citizen who buys stuff--not as a developer who has looked into it in detail. But I'll certainly help if I can fwiw, Dawn Matt - I just actually dissassembled a canada shipping/ tax piece on one of my clients sites I built. Basically here are the elements - 1) Broker Fee / Customs and all that - Typically a broker fee is involved - a percentage based fee. Includes a standard federal percetn fee too I believe. If not broker- then I guess jsut the federal - my clients used a Broker to eliminate this guessing. 2) Province tax - as much as 15% in Newfoundland 3) Exchange Rate 4) Your shipping rates - flat rate or carrier We applied tax pre-shipping cost - yet the broker fee I beleive needed to be on complete purchase. Hope this little bit helps. Feel free to email me off list if you wnat further details. jay miller P.S. THe rates i have for province are as follows ( please confirm them) ProvinceProvAbrTaxRate AlbertaAB7 British ColumbiaBC14 ManitobaMB14 New BrunswickNB15 NewfoundlandNF15 Northwest TerritoriesNT7 Nova ScotiaNS15 NunavutNT7 OntarioON15 Prince Edward IslandPE7 QuebecPQ16 SaskatchewanSK13 YukonYT7 Matthew Fusfield wrote: ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: CFMX: how to access a servlet?? (again)
Sean, I've found that after stop/starting Apache, without touching CFMX, the JRun/Apache connector keeps working as expected. I've seen this using Linux. I would expect, and in fact prefer, the same behaviour with JRun/IIS connector. I don't see as a good thing to have to start IIS before CFMX. I'm wondering if there is a config parameter for JRun/IIS connector that could change this. Maybe it's a bug, or an improvement that should be considered. Thanks, Marcello. On Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002, at 06:12 US/Pacific, Marcello Frutig wrote: there is no need to create any special mapping on the external web server to have CFMX serving servlets called via a url like http://host/myMapping/MySerlvet. Just install the CFMX JRun Connector and all the servlet mappings defined on WEB-INF/web.xml are processed by the connector, as expected. OK, well, that probably explains why more people hadn't reported the problem :) I figured out that we just need to make sure that the external web server is (re)started before CFMX. Interesting. If anything, I would expect the web server would need to be restarted *after* CFMX was restarted so that the JRun connector could re-establish its connection to CF (well, JRun Inside). Perhaps on Windows, IIS needs restarting first but on Solaris Apache needs restarting afterward? (which is what we do) Anyway, I'm glad you have a solution. SOAP is not so much a means of transmitting data but a mechanism for calling COM objects over the Web. -- not Microsoft (surprisingly!) ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: java cfx and administrator woes
http://java.sun.com/getjava/installer.html the coffee is steaming, so I assume that means I have a good install? Matt -Original Message- From: Craig Dudley [mailto:craig;netstep.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: java cfx and administrator woes Your 1st problem sounds like a browser issue, does IE6 have a java plugin installed? Try testing it with other java applets? -Original Message- From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:Matthew.P.Smith;cnet.navy.mil] Sent: 13 November 2002 15:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: java cfx and administrator woes I'm having a bit of trouble on the java side of things and was hoping someone could help. Two problems, actually, but I feel they may be related so I'll just throw them both out in the hopes that there may be a single solution to both. First, when ever I try to use any of the browse functionality within the cf administrator, the applet(it is an applet, right?) fails to load and instead displays an error message within the applet window, something similar to this: exception: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/Targ(cut off can't read) I've posted a screen shot: https://160.125.208.40/adminJavaError.jpg The problem only occurs in ie (6.0.2600.); netscape 4.7 works fine. I'm also having a problem getting cfx_rapidDiet to run as well. On my local install of mx (127.0.0.1:8500), it works without problem, but on the cf 5 server, it won't work. java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: rapidDiet. Java exception occurred in call to method. I've searched the macromedia forums pretty extensively. I didn't spot much on the administrator problem. The cfx problem has many posts, but most seem to be related to proper configuration settings for the jvm and class paths in administrator, which I think I have. I've tried just about every permutation, and restarted the service each time to test. Could the two be related? I just installed the latest Java SDK(j2sdk-1_4_0_02-windows-i586.exe), hoping it would help, but no dice. Any suggestions on what to try next? Matthew P. Smith Web Developer, Object Oriented Naval Education Training Professional Development Technology Center (NETPDTC) (850)452-1001 ext. 1245 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Flash Com and CFUG meeting
i am pretty sure that this is an issue with the text chat component. it doesn't limit the amount of text that it can hold. the more it holds, the more CPU it requires. the solution is to change the component to only hold so much text. when i get a chance, i am going to write up some info on how to do this. also, just fyi, i noticed that we just released some updated components: -- http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashcom/download/components/ Changes (also in the ERRATA.txt inside the .zip): This document describes the bug fixes and enhancements that are included in this revision of the Communication Components. CLIENT-SIDE -The VideoRecord and VideoPlayback components have been added. Documentation for these components in the PDF that is enclosed with the communication components package. -The SimpleConnect component no longer has a memory leak on the client-side; previously, the memory leak occurred if you typed faster than 1 character every 10 milliseconds. -The Presenter Shared Object property of the AVPresence component has been removed. Flash Communication Server now sets the value property of the property automatically. You can use multiple instances of the AVPresence component in one application without having to set this property for each instance. SERVER-SIDE -The application.asc and framework.asc files have been modified to allow garbage collection for applications using components. -A new method, getClientID(client), has been added to the components framework. This method returns a unique ID for each client. The server-side scripts of the components provided have been updated to use this method. --- although i dont think the chat issue was addressed. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dan Phillips [mailto:dphillips;cfxhosting.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Com and CFUG meeting Importance: High Thanks for the comments Dick. I was wondering is maybe adjusting the image and sound quality on the web cam would work as well. I will be playing with that myself over the next few days. I too noticed the 10-15 minute bug you mentioned. In our office, it got the the point where I could not only be on my cam, but on one accross the office as well because of images freezing. Audio by itself and video by itself seemed to be ok. Once we did both, that's when things would slowly start to lag. -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:dicklacara;mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash Com and CFUG meeting I watched last night and had the same reaction. AFAIK, Michael was using a 1Gig RAM processor and a 48Kb modem? But the choppiness was better than at DevCon where they had a DSL link. I have been told that there is a memory leak somewhere in the system -- the choppiness gets worse over time. Every 10-15 minutes some one (usually me) would complain and they would refresh the system (whatever that is), and quality would markedly improve. I don't know if it is: Memory Leak, CPU speed, Bandwidth, RAM size, Buffering, or what -- but this choppiness is the biggest negative to the system, Once they get that resolved, I expect we will see enhancements in image size resolution and other features -- that's just technology. I certainly hope they get the choppiness fixed -- this could be a fantastic solution to a lot of communication needs. It could change the world of presentations -- for both the presenters and the audience. Dick On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 07:29 AM, Dan Phillips wrote: I watched the nycfug meeting last night using Flash Com and noticed that the audio and video were pretty choppy. While doing some internal testing of Flash Com in the office we have noticed the same kind of performance. Anyway else using this new feature and seeing the same issues? Thank you, Dan Phillips Express Technologies, Inc. dba HalfPriceHosting, CFXHosting and Invotion. www.HalfPriceHosting.com www.CFXHosting.com www.Invotion.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
No No No...sorry Thane but you're wrong. In most provinces the PST and GST are calculated seperately. Againplease leave Canadian matters to us in the Great White North ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: RE: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada At 11:11 AM 13/11/02 -0500, Stacy Young wrote: This means tax on tax. After the provincial tax is applied you then apply the GST on the price PLUS the first tax. In effect, the actual tax rate in Quebec is 15.56%. This is correct. For all provinces that have both GST and PST, the PST is applied after the GST. Provinces with HST (like Nova Scotia) are a flat 15%. T ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: CF and MySQL insering/updating database
Like... cfquery name=UpdEnv datasource=user-profiles dbtype=ODBC APPEND profiles SET strUsername = '#auth#', strOmit=cfqueryparam value=#FORM.select# cfsqltype=CF_SQL_LONGVARCHAR WHERE strUsername = '#auth#' /cfquery On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:23:40 -0600, Clint Tredway wrote: You are replacing what is in that field. You will need to get the contents of that field and append the new values to it then update that column. At least that is what I see going on. HTH Clint -Original Message- From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx;rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 7:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF and MySQL insering/updating database Hi, Something must be wrong with my syntax. When a user goes into his preferences they get a list of files with check boxes which is being generated from my database. They have the option of clicking multiple boxes which gets inserted into field strOmit in the same database it got the fields strDisplay to display the list. If I select additional check boxes after inserting the initial ones and update the database it wipes the contents of field strOmit and inserts the new entries. I just want it to add (append) the new entires, not delete the field and insert. Whats the correct SQL statements? Here is just a snippet of my code. application.cfm cfset auth = #CGI.AUTH_USER# In this example auth = Bill index.cfm cfquery name=ListElement datasource=profiles dbtype=ODBC SELECT * FROMprofiles WHERE strUsername = '#auth#' /cfquery form action=add-action.cfm method=post ...code clipped... input type=checkbox name=select value=#i# ...code clipped... input type=submit value=Update class=navlinks /form add-action.cfm cfquery name=GetEnv datasource=profiles dbtype=ODBC SELECT * FROMprofiles WHERE strUsername = '#auth#' /cfquery cfquery name=UpdEnv datasource=profiles dbtype=ODBC UPDATE profiles SET strUsername = '#auth#', strOmit=cfqueryparam value=#FORM.select# cfsqltype=CF_SQL_LONGVARCHAR WHERE strUsername = '#auth#' /cfquery --- Colonel Nathan R. Jessop Commanding Officer Marine Ground Forces Guatanamo Bay, Cuba --- ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
Way to go Dawn...a Canuck on Canuck taxes...excellent ;-) Just one note on brokerage fees I believe they relate to the fees charged by the courier companies when goods cross the border or it's just another fee from the CCRA (Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency). There is always duty and then the mysterious extra brokerage/handling fee (which is usually really high). I don't think it neccessarily has anything to do with using a specific broker for importing/exporting goods. Either way it's nothing that should be factored into your eComm site (other than to mention to customers they could get dinged at the border). Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Dawn Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:33 AM Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada We have two levels of sales tax--GST at 7% which is a federal tax and must be collected by the merchant and submitted to the feds directly via a special remission process, which includes detailed reporting. There are certain goods that are GST exempt (food for one). Certain businesses are GST exempt (mostly government services), but I don't know all the exemptions. GST reports must be remitted bases on whatever reporting period the business has opted for, or in some cases, the reporting periods are enforced. Usually it's quarterly, some are annual, some do it monthly--depends on volume in part. In some cases services provided for minors are tax exempt (e.g., swimming classes for kids under 14). It isn't all that straightforward--so you'll need to know the nature of the goods or services being sold, and the audience it is sold to. In addition to that we have sales tax in most provinces--each province has a separate rate. This tax must be submitted to the appropriate provincial governments and is separate and distinct from the GST. Each province has their own set of rules--again certain goods are exempt. Also, if you reside in a tax exempt province (as I do in Alberta) and buy goods in a province that has sales tax where you plan to use the goods in the province of your residence (eg. I buy a car in BC but reside in tax-exempt Alberta and will use it here), you can be exempt. I'm not sure if that's the case in all provinces, but it is in BC. Once again, each province is regulated differerent. Jason talks about a brokerage fee--his explanation is a bit unclear. But it sounds like what is happening is that the client he is referring to uses a broker to clear imported goods, and that percentage fee is a service fee paid to the broker--this isn't a tax issue, this is a business decision. Brokers typically remit duty and GST for you and that is included in their invoice, along with their service charge. In order to clear the goods and have them released, they remit all taxes including GST and duty to the feds (Receiver General) and then collect from their client. This is an issue most ecomm sites wouldn't have to go near. Depending on the size of the business, they might want to talk to a logistics specialist at a customs broker to make sure they have a proper workflow in place. I don't have a clue what happens to tax when you sell to the US from Canada. Note that this is a very cursory explanation, and much more detail would be needed. I do know our banks here aren't particularly keen on ecommerce, especially with physical goods, and they have been known to impose very high security deposits to cover possible chargebacks. I looked into this for a furniture company, and they were told they would have to put up the equivalent of 3 months sales for VISA--which would have been hundreds of thousands of dollars. Interestingly, American Express required no deposit. But this is far from the issue of CF---if anyone has any questions they feel I might be able to help with, please feel free to email me. My knowledge is only that of a Canadian citizen who buys stuff--not as a developer who has looked into it in detail. But I'll certainly help if I can fwiw, Dawn Matt - I just actually dissassembled a canada shipping/ tax piece on one of my clients sites I built. Basically here are the elements - 1) Broker Fee / Customs and all that - Typically a broker fee is involved - a percentage based fee. Includes a standard federal percetn fee too I believe. If not broker- then I guess jsut the federal - my clients used a Broker to eliminate this guessing. 2) Province tax - as much as 15% in Newfoundland 3) Exchange Rate 4) Your shipping rates - flat rate or carrier
RE: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
I live in Montreal. =P -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:bryan;electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada The tax on tax is only in 1 or 2 provinces and it's the PST on top of the GST... For the the love of hockey and good beerall Americans stop guessing :-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Stacy Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:11 AM Subject: RE: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada You have to be careful on applying taxes...I believe it's the provincial tax followed by the GST (goods and services tax). - *think* that's the right order. This means tax on tax. After the provincial tax is applied you then apply the GST on the price PLUS the first tax. In effect, the actual tax rate in Quebec is 15.56%. I'm also not sure as to whether that method only applies to Quebec and not all the provinces... Cheers, Stace -Original Message- From: Jason Miller [mailto:millerj;etcnj.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada Matt - I just actually dissassembled a canada shipping/ tax piece on one of my clients sites I built. Basically here are the elements - 1) Broker Fee / Customs and all that - Typically a broker fee is involved - a percentage based fee. Includes a standard federal percetn fee too I believe. If not broker- then I guess jsut the federal - my clients used a Broker to eliminate this guessing. 2) Province tax - as much as 15% in Newfoundland 3) Exchange Rate 4) Your shipping rates - flat rate or carrier We applied tax pre-shipping cost - yet the broker fee I beleive needed to be on complete purchase. Hope this little bit helps. Feel free to email me off list if you wnat further details. jay miller P.S. THe rates i have for province are as follows ( please confirm them) ProvinceProvAbrTaxRate AlbertaAB7 British ColumbiaBC14 ManitobaMB14 New BrunswickNB15 NewfoundlandNF15 Northwest TerritoriesNT7 Nova ScotiaNS15 NunavutNT7 OntarioON15 Prince Edward IslandPE7 QuebecPQ16 SaskatchewanSK13 YukonYT7 Matthew Fusfield wrote: Hi, We are building an e-commerce site that is specifically targeted to a Canadian market. Most of our work has either been US domestic or so international that we use a 3rd party to do the calculations. Anyway, anyone know of or have a quick reference to how sales taxes are calculated in Canada and to what they apply? (ie I believe one of the taxes applies to another tax, and are shipping charges generally taxed?) We are having trouble getting information out of our client that is accurate in this area. Thanks, Matt ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
Oh no...a Habs fan! Go Leafs Go! On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:53:14 -0500, Stacy Young wrote: I live in Montreal. =P -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:bryan;electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada The tax on tax is only in 1 or 2 provinces and it's the PST on top of the GST... For the the love of hockey and good beerall Americans stop guessing :-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Stacy Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:11 AM Subject: RE: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada You have to be careful on applying taxes...I believe it's the provincial tax followed by the GST (goods and services tax). - *think* that's the right order. This means tax on tax. After the provincial tax is applied you then apply the GST on the price PLUS the first tax. In effect, the actual tax rate in Quebec is 15.56%. I'm also not sure as to whether that method only applies to Quebec and not all the provinces... Cheers, Stace -Original Message- From: Jason Miller [mailto:millerj;etcnj.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada Matt - I just actually dissassembled a canada shipping/ tax piece on one of my clients sites I built. Basically here are the elements - 1) Broker Fee / Customs and all that - Typically a broker fee is involved - a percentage based fee. Includes a standard federal percetn fee too I believe. If not broker- then I guess jsut the federal - my clients used a Broker to eliminate this guessing. 2) Province tax - as much as 15% in Newfoundland 3) Exchange Rate 4) Your shipping rates - flat rate or carrier We applied tax pre-shipping cost - yet the broker fee I beleive needed to be on complete purchase. Hope this little bit helps. Feel free to email me off list if you wnat further details. jay miller P.S. THe rates i have for province are as follows ( please confirm them) ProvinceProvAbrTaxRate AlbertaAB7 British ColumbiaBC14 ManitobaMB14 New BrunswickNB15 NewfoundlandNF15 Northwest TerritoriesNT7 Nova ScotiaNS15 NunavutNT7 OntarioON15 Prince Edward IslandPE7 QuebecPQ16 SaskatchewanSK13 YukonYT7 Matthew Fusfield wrote: Hi, We are building an e-commerce site that is specifically targeted to a Canadian market. Most of our work has either been US domestic or so international that we use a 3rd party to do the calculations. Anyway, anyone know of or have a quick reference to how sales taxes are calculated in Canada and to what they apply? (ie I believe one of the taxes applies to another tax, and are shipping charges generally taxed?) We are having trouble getting information out of our client that is accurate in this area. Thanks, Matt ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
A...it's all becoming clear Stacy ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Stacy Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:53 AM Subject: RE: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada I live in Montreal. =P -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:bryan;electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada The tax on tax is only in 1 or 2 provinces and it's the PST on top of the GST... For the the love of hockey and good beerall Americans stop guessing :-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Stacy Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:11 AM Subject: RE: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada You have to be careful on applying taxes...I believe it's the provincial tax followed by the GST (goods and services tax). - *think* that's the right order. This means tax on tax. After the provincial tax is applied you then apply the GST on the price PLUS the first tax. In effect, the actual tax rate in Quebec is 15.56%. I'm also not sure as to whether that method only applies to Quebec and not all the provinces... Cheers, Stace -Original Message- From: Jason Miller [mailto:millerj;etcnj.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada Matt - I just actually dissassembled a canada shipping/ tax piece on one of my clients sites I built. Basically here are the elements - 1) Broker Fee / Customs and all that - Typically a broker fee is involved - a percentage based fee. Includes a standard federal percetn fee too I believe. If not broker- then I guess jsut the federal - my clients used a Broker to eliminate this guessing. 2) Province tax - as much as 15% in Newfoundland 3) Exchange Rate 4) Your shipping rates - flat rate or carrier We applied tax pre-shipping cost - yet the broker fee I beleive needed to be on complete purchase. Hope this little bit helps. Feel free to email me off list if you wnat further details. jay miller P.S. THe rates i have for province are as follows ( please confirm them) ProvinceProvAbrTaxRate AlbertaAB7 British ColumbiaBC14 ManitobaMB14 New BrunswickNB15 NewfoundlandNF15 Northwest TerritoriesNT7 Nova ScotiaNS15 NunavutNT7 OntarioON15 Prince Edward IslandPE7 QuebecPQ16 SaskatchewanSK13 YukonYT7 Matthew Fusfield wrote: Hi, We are building an e-commerce site that is specifically targeted to a Canadian market. Most of our work has either been US domestic or so international that we use a 3rd party to do the calculations. Anyway, anyone know of or have a quick reference to how sales taxes are calculated in Canada and to what they apply? (ie I believe one of the taxes applies to another tax, and are shipping charges generally taxed?) We are having trouble getting information out of our client that is accurate in this area. Thanks, Matt ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
All you have to do is rent the movie Strange Brew and you will learn all there is to know about Canadians eh. Bob and Doug are quite knowledgeable. :-) Stace -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:bryan;electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada No No No...sorry Thane but you're wrong. In most provinces the PST and GST are calculated seperately. Againplease leave Canadian matters to us in the Great White North ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: RE: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada At 11:11 AM 13/11/02 -0500, Stacy Young wrote: This means tax on tax. After the provincial tax is applied you then apply the GST on the price PLUS the first tax. In effect, the actual tax rate in Quebec is 15.56%. This is correct. For all provinces that have both GST and PST, the PST is applied after the GST. Provinces with HST (like Nova Scotia) are a flat 15%. T ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: java cfx and administrator woes
When you hit the admin directory listing double click on the coffee cup by your clock on the taskbar. that might give a bit more info on what is happening. -Original Message- From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:Matthew.P.Smith;cnet.navy.mil] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: java cfx and administrator woes http://java.sun.com/getjava/installer.html the coffee is steaming, so I assume that means I have a good install? Matt -Original Message- From: Craig Dudley [mailto:craig;netstep.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: java cfx and administrator woes Your 1st problem sounds like a browser issue, does IE6 have a java plugin installed? Try testing it with other java applets? -Original Message- From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:Matthew.P.Smith;cnet.navy.mil] Sent: 13 November 2002 15:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: java cfx and administrator woes I'm having a bit of trouble on the java side of things and was hoping someone could help. Two problems, actually, but I feel they may be related so I'll just throw them both out in the hopes that there may be a single solution to both. First, when ever I try to use any of the browse functionality within the cf administrator, the applet(it is an applet, right?) fails to load and instead displays an error message within the applet window, something similar to this: exception: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/Targ(cut off can't read) I've posted a screen shot: https://160.125.208.40/adminJavaError.jpg The problem only occurs in ie (6.0.2600.); netscape 4.7 works fine. I'm also having a problem getting cfx_rapidDiet to run as well. On my local install of mx (127.0.0.1:8500), it works without problem, but on the cf 5 server, it won't work. java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: rapidDiet. Java exception occurred in call to method. I've searched the macromedia forums pretty extensively. I didn't spot much on the administrator problem. The cfx problem has many posts, but most seem to be related to proper configuration settings for the jvm and class paths in administrator, which I think I have. I've tried just about every permutation, and restarted the service each time to test. Could the two be related? I just installed the latest Java SDK(j2sdk-1_4_0_02-windows-i586.exe), hoping it would help, but no dice. Any suggestions on what to try next? Matthew P. Smith Web Developer, Object Oriented Naval Education Training Professional Development Technology Center (NETPDTC) (850)452-1001 ext. 1245 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
hehe...eh...time to haul out the Bob Doug McKenzie 12 days of Christmas Flash movie ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Stacy Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:58 AM Subject: RE: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada All you have to do is rent the movie Strange Brew and you will learn all there is to know about Canadians eh. Bob and Doug are quite knowledgeable. :-) Stace -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:bryan;electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada No No No...sorry Thane but you're wrong. In most provinces the PST and GST are calculated seperately. Againplease leave Canadian matters to us in the Great White North ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: RE: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada At 11:11 AM 13/11/02 -0500, Stacy Young wrote: This means tax on tax. After the provincial tax is applied you then apply the GST on the price PLUS the first tax. In effect, the actual tax rate in Quebec is 15.56%. This is correct. For all provinces that have both GST and PST, the PST is applied after the GST. Provinces with HST (like Nova Scotia) are a flat 15%. T ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: java cfx and administrator woes
I was just looking for those... What's odd is that I have two of them, and there were three a little while ago. Is that normal, or is that indicative of a problem? Here's the console output; doesn't mean much to me, but maybe it will help someone: (long code) ava.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/Target at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:509) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:123) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(AppletClassLoader.java:146) at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(PluginClassLoader.java:189) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:112) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:262) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:322) at java.lang.Class.getDeclaredConstructors0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.privateGetDeclaredConstructors(Class.java:1576) at java.lang.Class.getConstructor0(Class.java:1748) at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:266) at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:249) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(AppletPanel.java:548) at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(AppletViewer.java:1627) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(AppletPanel.java:477) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:290) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:536) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/CommandEvent at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:130) at allaire.cfide.CFNavigationApplet.classForName(CFNavigationApplet.java:38) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.instantiateObjectOfClass(FoundationApp let.java:222) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.run(FoundationApplet.java:82) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:536) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/AWTComponentView at netscape.application.FoundationPanel.init(FoundationPanel.java:29) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.createPanel(FoundationApplet.java:273) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.setupCanvas(FoundationApplet.java:184) at netscape.application.Application.init(Application.java:120) at allaire.cfide.CFNavigation.init(CFNavigation.java) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAcces sorImpl.java:39) at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstruc torAccessorImpl.java:27) at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:274) at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:296) at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:249) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.instantiateObjectOfClass(FoundationApp let.java:223) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.run(FoundationApplet.java:82) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:536) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/ApplicationObserver at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:509) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:123) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(AppletClassLoader.java:146) at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(PluginClassLoader.java:189) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:112) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:262) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:322) at netscape.application.Application.init(Application.java:124) at allaire.cfide.CFNavigation.init(CFNavigation.java) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAcces sorImpl.java:39) at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstruc torAccessorImpl.java:27) at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:274) at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:296) at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:249) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.instantiateObjectOfClass(FoundationApp let.java:223) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.run(FoundationApplet.java:82) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:536) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/Border at
RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)
Thanks, that was a lot clearer than the information I was wading through on MSDN about it. -Kevin -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) marshalling communications (US -ll- or -l-) The process of packing one or more items of data into a message buffer, prior to transmitting that message buffer over a communication channel. The packing process not only collects together values which may be stored in non-consecutive memory locations but also converts data of different types into a standard representation agreed with the recipient of the message. Each language has its own idea of what data types are and how they are represented. Whenever you want to pass data between different languages you need to have an agreed upon intermediary. Each language can then convert the data to and from the intermediary thus allowing inter-language communication. As such, when I speak of objects being corrupted during the marshalling process I am simply stating that the object sent from one end didn't end up on the other as expected. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:kgraeme;facstaff.wisc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:02 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Matt, can you provide examples of what you've run into with these issues? I'm a UI developer and I don't recognize the term marshalling. Thanks, -Kevin -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Have you tried using Flash Remoting with anything other than CFMX? Have you tried marshalling complex objects? Have you tried marshalling objects with large blocks of text? Have you tried any of the above on mixed platforms i.e. Windows and Linux? Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger;cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Ditto - we've done 2 aps with rave reviews and we are working on 2 more. -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:Stacy.Young;sfcommerce.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Remoting rocks. -Original Message- From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:Peter.Tilbrook;abcb.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Memories of claims about Spectra's capabilities come to mind. Flash Remoting certainly is a timely idea that could enable some very impressive applications. However, the marriage of Flash and CF is far from perfect. People talk of the possibilities and show examples that wow developers, but the truth is that organizations who are trying to build complex applications that make use of Flash Remoting are finding serious problems. We have been working with Flash Remoting since the beginning and have found it to be a constant struggle. Complex objects are corrupted and line endings are changed as data is marshaled. Flash Remoting itself is different in functionality and behavior from CFMX to J2EE to NET. The documentation is spares to non-existent, while at the same time misleading on occasion. Worst of all, Macromedia has only acknowledged out findings and has offered no solutions. Flash Remoting is a great idea, but it simply isn't all there. Like any 1.0 product, buyer beware. I look forward to the day when the issues are fixed. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: David Hannum (Ohio University) [mailto:hannum;ohio.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. Everyone seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a little over a year ago. ~~ Do you think MM will keep CF around if it starts to tank? Phat chance. If the software doesn't sail, these captains jump before the women and children. I know I'm not the only one who learned Generator. :) MM bought Allaire, not because
RE: CF and MySQL insering/updating database
Nevermind...got it. cfset SelectStrOmit = ValueList(GetEnv.strOmit) cfset AppendStrOmit = ListAppend(SelectStrOmit,FORM.select) On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:23:40 -0600, Clint Tredway wrote: You are replacing what is in that field. You will need to get the contents of that field and append the new values to it then update that column. At least that is what I see going on. HTH Clint -Original Message- From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx;rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 7:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF and MySQL insering/updating database Hi, Something must be wrong with my syntax. When a user goes into his preferences they get a list of files with check boxes which is being generated from my database. They have the option of clicking multiple boxes which gets inserted into field strOmit in the same database it got the fields strDisplay to display the list. If I select additional check boxes after inserting the initial ones and update the database it wipes the contents of field strOmit and inserts the new entries. I just want it to add (append) the new entires, not delete the field and insert. Whats the correct SQL statements? Here is just a snippet of my code. application.cfm cfset auth = #CGI.AUTH_USER# In this example auth = Bill index.cfm cfquery name=ListElement datasource=profiles dbtype=ODBC SELECT * FROMprofiles WHERE strUsername = '#auth#' /cfquery form action=add-action.cfm method=post ...code clipped... input type=checkbox name=select value=#i# ...code clipped... input type=submit value=Update class=navlinks /form add-action.cfm cfquery name=GetEnv datasource=profiles dbtype=ODBC SELECT * FROMprofiles WHERE strUsername = '#auth#' /cfquery cfquery name=UpdEnv datasource=profiles dbtype=ODBC UPDATE profiles SET strUsername = '#auth#', strOmit=cfqueryparam value=#FORM.select# cfsqltype=CF_SQL_LONGVARCHAR WHERE strUsername = '#auth#' /cfquery --- Colonel Nathan R. Jessop Commanding Officer Marine Ground Forces Guatanamo Bay, Cuba --- ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
One last note Bryan The fees charged by the courier companies are the same in nature as those charged by brokers--it's just the courier company acting as the broker. The fee is charged per entry (they have to make a submission called a B3 per shipment--now most of this is done electronically using systems called CADEX and ACROSS). The courier companies, like the brokers, submit duty on your behalf--they may or may not pay the GST. It varies. The brokerage fee is a handling fee and is usually a minimum of around $40 or $50, sometimes it's a percentage of the value of the goods over and above the minimum, and often it's inflated by various little service charges (number of lines having to be rated, etc.). Some goods are duty-free--that gets complicated. And a way to avoid paying high brokerage fees using FEDEX or UPS is to ship the goods to yourself personally--avoid the use of a company name--they then assume the goods are personal, and they usually won't charge the brokerage fee--except FEDEX always charges if it's a ground shipment I believe ?? Go figure. Anyway, you are right. This is a importing issue--not an ecomm matter. Whatever costs accrue as a result of importing goods should already be built into the purchase price by then. My father ran a brokerage business--retired at age 40 and lives in New Zealand. Lucrative I guess :o~ Dawn Way to go Dawn...a Canuck on Canuck taxes...excellent ;-) Just one note on brokerage fees I believe they relate to the fees charged by the courier companies when goods cross the border or it's just another fee from the CCRA (Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency). There is always duty and then the mysterious extra brokerage/handling fee (which is usually really high). I don't think it neccessarily has anything to do with using a specific broker for importing/exporting goods. Either way it's nothing that should be factored into your eComm site (other than to mention to customers they could get dinged at the border). Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: java cfx and administrator woes
I have seen this kind of thing before. Firstly, close all instances of your browsers (looks like Netscape from this). Then retry. If it still doesn't work, you make have a couple plugins installed on your machine. I have found browsers get very confused if this is the case. You can check it by looking in control panel. If you have more then one, uninstall ALL of them and reinstall only the one you want. Also if you have mozilla and Netscape 6/7 installed on the same windows box they seem to not like to get along. I was thinking about joining the navy. Do you like it? good luck rob -Original Message- From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:Matthew.P.Smith;cnet.navy.mil] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: java cfx and administrator woes I was just looking for those... What's odd is that I have two of them, and there were three a little while ago. Is that normal, or is that indicative of a problem? Here's the console output; doesn't mean much to me, but maybe it will help someone: (long code) ava.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/Target at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:509) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:123) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(AppletClassLoader.java:146) at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(PluginClassLoader.java:189) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:112) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:262) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:322) at java.lang.Class.getDeclaredConstructors0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.privateGetDeclaredConstructors(Class.java:1576) at java.lang.Class.getConstructor0(Class.java:1748) at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:266) at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:249) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(AppletPanel.java:548) at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(AppletViewer.java:1627) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(AppletPanel.java:477) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:290) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:536) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/CommandEvent at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:130) at allaire.cfide.CFNavigationApplet.classForName(CFNavigationApplet.java:38) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.instantiateObjectOfClass(FoundationApp let.java:222) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.run(FoundationApplet.java:82) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:536) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/AWTComponentView at netscape.application.FoundationPanel.init(FoundationPanel.java:29) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.createPanel(FoundationApplet.java:273) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.setupCanvas(FoundationApplet.java:184) at netscape.application.Application.init(Application.java:120) at allaire.cfide.CFNavigation.init(CFNavigation.java) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAcces sorImpl.java:39) at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstruc torAccessorImpl.java:27) at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:274) at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:296) at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:249) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.instantiateObjectOfClass(FoundationApp let.java:223) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.run(FoundationApplet.java:82) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:536) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/ApplicationObserver at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:509) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:123) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(AppletClassLoader.java:146) at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(PluginClassLoader.java:189) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:112) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:262) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:322) at netscape.application.Application.init(Application.java:124) at allaire.cfide.CFNavigation.init(CFNavigation.java) at
Re: Mass email marketing
If he does that, I will be among the many who will work very hard to get him shut down and lose his provider. You might advise the client to closely peruse the Terms of Service at whatever provider he chooses. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:doug;samcfug.org http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:52 AM Subject: OT: Mass email marketing | Folks, | | I need some solid information on mass email marketing. If anyone has some experience in this area and would like to | share some general advice, please email me off-list. I have a client who thinks he's going to make a million on a Spam | campaign for coffee g. | | -Mark | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
and whatever happend to free trade.. I had some clawfoot tub shower hardware shipped up from the US...cost $120fees at border $60 ouch thanks for the info Dawn BTW...Bob Doug can be found here: http://aetherealforge.com/~aeon/humor/12days.html Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Dawn Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:12 AM Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada One last note Bryan The fees charged by the courier companies are the same in nature as those charged by brokers--it's just the courier company acting as the broker. The fee is charged per entry (they have to make a submission called a B3 per shipment--now most of this is done electronically using systems called CADEX and ACROSS). The courier companies, like the brokers, submit duty on your behalf--they may or may not pay the GST. It varies. The brokerage fee is a handling fee and is usually a minimum of around $40 or $50, sometimes it's a percentage of the value of the goods over and above the minimum, and often it's inflated by various little service charges (number of lines having to be rated, etc.). Some goods are duty-free--that gets complicated. And a way to avoid paying high brokerage fees using FEDEX or UPS is to ship the goods to yourself personally--avoid the use of a company name--they then assume the goods are personal, and they usually won't charge the brokerage fee--except FEDEX always charges if it's a ground shipment I believe ?? Go figure. Anyway, you are right. This is a importing issue--not an ecomm matter. Whatever costs accrue as a result of importing goods should already be built into the purchase price by then. My father ran a brokerage business--retired at age 40 and lives in New Zealand. Lucrative I guess :o~ Dawn Way to go Dawn...a Canuck on Canuck taxes...excellent ;-) Just one note on brokerage fees I believe they relate to the fees charged by the courier companies when goods cross the border or it's just another fee from the CCRA (Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency). There is always duty and then the mysterious extra brokerage/handling fee (which is usually really high). I don't think it neccessarily has anything to do with using a specific broker for importing/exporting goods. Either way it's nothing that should be factored into your eComm site (other than to mention to customers they could get dinged at the border). Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
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My company currently is taking training requests for next year. I've been working with CF and SQL Server for over three years now and although I could always stand to improve in these areas, I'm also looking to branch out. In particular, I think I need to get my feet wet in Java and XML. I don't have an OO background and, thus, was eyeing the Java for Web Developers classes being offered by Figleaf and Hal Helms. For the XML stuff I've been looking mostly at Learning Tree. Any other thoughts out there? I live/work in the DC area and I think my company would prefer local training (they didn't buy the whole I need to go to Vegas for Hal's upcoming class). I just spoke with a Figleaf person and have a sense of what they offer. Anything else I should consider? Thanks in advance. Kamie = Kamie Curfman, Web Developer, FGM Inc. 45245 Business Court, Suite 400 Dulles, VA 20166 http://www.fgm.com __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: Flash Com and CFUG meeting
I also watched As more people logged in - the worse it got - giving me the impression that it was a bandwidth issue. After all, the server is in the Netherlands, the meeting was in NYC = Douglas White group Manager mailto:doug;samcfug.org http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Dan Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:29 AM Subject: Flash Com and CFUG meeting | I watched the nycfug meeting last night using Flash Com and noticed that the | audio and video were pretty choppy. While doing some internal testing of | Flash Com in the office we have noticed the same kind of performance. Anyway | else using this new feature and seeing the same issues? | | Thank you, | | Dan Phillips | Express Technologies, Inc. | dba HalfPriceHosting, CFXHosting and Invotion. | www.HalfPriceHosting.com | www.CFXHosting.com | www.Invotion.com | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: Mass email marketing
I'll ask a different question. Is E-mail marketing viewed as being different than SPAM? How about unsolicited E-mail marketing? Do people feel differently if contacted a single time by a legit business with a valid return E-mail address than if they are contacted by some porn site with a hotmail / yahoo account? I have an associate who is starting a recording studio business and E-mailed a bunch of local bands unsolicited. I was given the impression he got a good response from that. When you vote on the CFDJ reader awards, and select do not contact me checkbox and they go ahead and contact you anyway, does that constitute SPAM? ( It happened to three friends who were nice enough to vote for my book in the Best Book category ) On Halloween, I deleted all of my SPAM deletion filters under the assumption they weren't working. Since then I started creating new filters, that move everything SPAM into a SPAM folder. I have received 248 SPAM messages since Halloween. I created 112 filters just for SPAM domains. At 11:19 AM 11/13/2002 -0600, you wrote: If he does that, I will be among the many who will work very hard to get him shut down and lose his provider. You might advise the client to closely peruse the Terms of Service at whatever provider he chooses. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:doug;samcfug.org http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:52 AM Subject: OT: Mass email marketing | Folks, | | I need some solid information on mass email marketing. If anyone has some experience in this area and would like to | share some general advice, please email me off-list. I have a client who thinks he's going to make a million on a Spam | campaign for coffee g. | | -Mark | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: Training Recommendations
I've taken a few courses at Learning Tree .. not web developer stuff but Windows 2000 networking/security ... and man, they blitz through the info and you can only absorb a small piece... my impression is they assume a higher level of knowledge than what they're advertised prereq's say.. I'm looking into on-line courses thru University of Maryland for similar stuff ... to go at a slower more effective pace -Original Message- From: Kamie Curfman [mailto:kbcurfman;yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Training Recommendations My company currently is taking training requests for next year. I've been working with CF and SQL Server for over three years now and although I could always stand to improve in these areas, I'm also looking to branch out. In particular, I think I need to get my feet wet in Java and XML. I don't have an OO background and, thus, was eyeing the Java for Web Developers classes being offered by Figleaf and Hal Helms. For the XML stuff I've been looking mostly at Learning Tree. Any other thoughts out there? I live/work in the DC area and I think my company would prefer local training (they didn't buy the whole I need to go to Vegas for Hal's upcoming class). I just spoke with a Figleaf person and have a sense of what they offer. Anything else I should consider? Thanks in advance. Kamie = Kamie Curfman, Web Developer, FGM Inc. 45245 Business Court, Suite 400 Dulles, VA 20166 http://www.fgm.com __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
M$ mappoint.net
Has anyone on this list managed to integrate a CF application (pref. CF 5) with M$'s mappoint web service offering? Is it even possible? It must be I suppose, though I have never done anything with SOAP (never really found a use for XML up to now, except for WDDX in a limited way). If you have, I would be most grateful for some pointers. Please contact me off list. Thanks. -- Regards; Richard Meredith-Hardy ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada
Sorry - forgot the Canuck nuances :) - I did preface it by saying - please don't take any of it as final! - As for a company adding those fees when shipping to Canada - one of my clients ahd me do it. Perhaps that is why they killed the shipping to Canada within 3 months - it was expensive! jay miller Bryan Stevenson wrote: Matt, Jason's info is a tad off in some casesI'm a Canuck...trust me ;-) For starters the brokerage fee and all that nonsense is only in play if the goods cross the border. That said, I have yet to see 1 US site add these fees to the price when shipping goods to Canada (we end up getting an additional bill from the CCRA...like IRS for you yanks). BTW that bill is often about half the cost of the goods! The rates for provinces are off and are combining 2 taxes (GST and PST and sometimes HST). These amounts need to be reported seperately. I've already contacted Matt offline, but for anyone else interested go here: http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/menu-e.html http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/menu-e.html (like IRS) and follow the tax link...it should give all the details for each province. HTH Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:bryan;electricedgesystems.com - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com http://www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com http://www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Jason Miller mailto:millerj;etcnj.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk mailto:cf-talk;houseoffusion.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:10 AM Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada Matt - I just actually dissassembled a canada shipping/ tax piece on one of my clients sites I built. Basically here are the elements - 1) Broker Fee / Customs and all that - Typically a broker fee is involved - a percentage based fee. Includes a standard federal percetn fee too I believe. If not broker- then I guess jsut the federal - my clients used a Broker to eliminate this guessing. 2) Province tax - as much as 15% in Newfoundland 3) Exchange Rate 4) Your shipping rates - flat rate or carrier We applied tax pre-shipping cost - yet the broker fee I beleive needed to be on complete purchase. Hope this little bit helps. Feel free to email me off list if you wnat further details. jay miller P.S. THe rates i have for province are as follows ( please confirm them) ProvinceProvAbrTaxRate AlbertaAB7 British ColumbiaBC14 ManitobaMB14 New BrunswickNB15 NewfoundlandNF15 Northwest TerritoriesNT7 Nova ScotiaNS15 NunavutNT7 OntarioON15 Prince Edward IslandPE7 QuebecPQ16 SaskatchewanSK13 YukonYT7 Matthew Fusfield wrote: Hi, We are building an e-commerce site that is specifically targeted to a Canadian market. Most of our work has either been US domestic or so international that we use a 3rd party to do the calculations. Anyway, anyone know of or have a quick reference to how sales taxes are calculated in Canada and to what they apply? (ie I believe one of the taxes applies to another tax, and are shipping charges generally taxed?) We are having trouble getting information out of our client that is accurate in this area. Thanks, Matt ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Mass email marketing
Yes. To me E-mail marketing = Spam. If I need your product I'll look for it. I don't get quite enough advertising form billboards, radio, tv, banner ads, t-shirts, and snail-mail marketing. I sure enjoy a bunch of unsolicited junk in my email account. Yeah! When I get unsolicited E-mail, I make note of the company, and try to never purchase any of their products or go to any of their events. -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jeff;farcryfly.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Mass email marketing I'll ask a different question. Is E-mail marketing viewed as being different than SPAM? How about unsolicited E-mail marketing? Do people feel differently if contacted a single time by a legit business with a valid return E-mail address than if they are contacted by some porn site with a hotmail / yahoo account? I have an associate who is starting a recording studio business and E-mailed a bunch of local bands unsolicited. I was given the impression he got a good response from that. When you vote on the CFDJ reader awards, and select do not contact me checkbox and they go ahead and contact you anyway, does that constitute SPAM? ( It happened to three friends who were nice enough to vote for my book in the Best Book category ) On Halloween, I deleted all of my SPAM deletion filters under the assumption they weren't working. Since then I started creating new filters, that move everything SPAM into a SPAM folder. I have received 248 SPAM messages since Halloween. I created 112 filters just for SPAM domains. At 11:19 AM 11/13/2002 -0600, you wrote: If he does that, I will be among the many who will work very hard to get him shut down and lose his provider. You might advise the client to closely peruse the Terms of Service at whatever provider he chooses. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:doug;samcfug.org http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:52 AM Subject: OT: Mass email marketing | Folks, | | I need some solid information on mass email marketing. If anyone has some experience in this area and would like to | share some general advice, please email me off-list. I have a client who thinks he's going to make a million on a Spam | campaign for coffee g. | | -Mark | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: M$ mappoint.net
heck no, contact him on here...im interested too!!! thanks;) ..tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer Information System Design Navtrak, Inc. Fleet Management Solutions www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Richard Meredith-Hardy [mailto:rmh;flymicro.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: M$ mappoint.net Has anyone on this list managed to integrate a CF application (pref. CF 5) with M$'s mappoint web service offering? Is it even possible? It must be I suppose, though I have never done anything with SOAP (never really found a use for XML up to now, except for WDDX in a limited way). If you have, I would be most grateful for some pointers. Please contact me off list. Thanks. -- Regards; Richard Meredith-Hardy ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
OT: Contract agreement
Hi all, Sorry for the OT but I know this has been discussed before. Where is the best place to get a general contract agreement? I appreciate it very much. And PLEASE email off list. Thanks, Tony ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: java cfx and administrator woes
Thanks, that did it. I uninstalled every thing that had the word Java in it, rebooted, and it now works fine. Thanks for the help. RE: Navy LOL, no I'm just a contractor for a private company. My father was 28 years Navy, and I did a 2 year stint in the Army. As far as joining, it depends: If you haven't gone to college and CAN afford it, get the degree and go in as an officer. If you haven't gone to college and CAN'T afford it, go in for the minimum enlistment, grab the college cash, and run. If you already have a degree, go for it. Again, thanks to all for the help. Matthew P. Smith Web Developer, Object Oriented Naval Education Training Professional Development Technology Center (NETPDTC) (850)452-1001 ext. 1245 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Rob Rohan [mailto:rob;cardinalweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: java cfx and administrator woes I have seen this kind of thing before. Firstly, close all instances of your browsers (looks like Netscape from this). Then retry. If it still doesn't work, you make have a couple plugins installed on your machine. I have found browsers get very confused if this is the case. You can check it by looking in control panel. If you have more then one, uninstall ALL of them and reinstall only the one you want. Also if you have mozilla and Netscape 6/7 installed on the same windows box they seem to not like to get along. I was thinking about joining the navy. Do you like it? good luck rob -Original Message- From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:Matthew.P.Smith;cnet.navy.mil] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: java cfx and administrator woes I was just looking for those... What's odd is that I have two of them, and there were three a little while ago. Is that normal, or is that indicative of a problem? Here's the console output; doesn't mean much to me, but maybe it will help someone: (long code) ava.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/Target at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:509) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:123) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(AppletClassLoader.java:146) at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(PluginClassLoader.java:189 ) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:112) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:262) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:322) at java.lang.Class.getDeclaredConstructors0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.privateGetDeclaredConstructors(Class.java:1576) at java.lang.Class.getConstructor0(Class.java:1748) at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:266) at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:249) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(AppletPanel.java:548) at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(AppletViewer.java:1627) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(AppletPanel.java:477) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:290) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:536) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/CommandEvent at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:130) at allaire.cfide.CFNavigationApplet.classForName(CFNavigationApplet.java:38) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.instantiateObjectOfClass(FoundationA pp let.java:222) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.run(FoundationApplet.java:82) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:536) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: netscape/application/AWTComponentView at netscape.application.FoundationPanel.init(FoundationPanel.java:29) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.createPanel(FoundationApplet.java:27 3) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.setupCanvas(FoundationApplet.java:18 4) at netscape.application.Application.init(Application.java:120) at allaire.cfide.CFNavigation.init(CFNavigation.java) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAcc es sorImpl.java:39) at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstr uc torAccessorImpl.java:27) at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:274) at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:296) at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:249) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.instantiateObjectOfClass(FoundationA pp let.java:223) at netscape.application.FoundationApplet.run(FoundationApplet.java:82) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:536)
RE: Mass email marketing
I've convinced him to go OPT-IN only and verify. I hate unsolicited spam as much as the next guy. So I guess marketing is a better term (still feels like spam to me - I think I need a shower g). -mk -Original Message- From: samcfug [mailto:doug;samcfug.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Mass email marketing If he does that, I will be among the many who will work very hard to get him shut down and lose his provider. You might advise the client to closely peruse the Terms of Service at whatever provider he chooses. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:doug;samcfug.org http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:52 AM Subject: OT: Mass email marketing | Folks, | | I need some solid information on mass email marketing. If anyone has some experience in this area and would like to | share some general advice, please email me off-list. I have a client who thinks he's going to make a million on a Spam | campaign for coffee g. | | -Mark | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: Missing Web Service Operation
On Wednesday, Nov 13, 2002, at 07:09 US/Pacific, Alexander Sherwood wrote: A CFC that executes perfectly when invoked as a component from the host machine fails to execute when invoked as a web service from another CFMX server. Where does that CFC live? Is it under wwwroot or elsewhere? I've tried renaming the method, and tried to access other methods in the CFC to no avail - cant find any of the methods in the CFC. I removed the Web Service from the CF Admin, restarted the CF service, re-added the service and nada. Hmm, I've never used the Web Service stuff in CF Admin - I just have the CFCs web-accessible. Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc. tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473 aim: seancorfield -- http://www.macromedia.com An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ Introducing Macromedia Contribute. Web publishing for everyone. Learn more at http://www.macromedia.com/contribute ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Flash Com and CFUG meeting
On Wednesday, Nov 13, 2002, at 07:29 US/Pacific, Dan Phillips wrote: I watched the nycfug meeting last night using Flash Com and noticed that the audio and video were pretty choppy. While doing some internal testing of Flash Com in the office we have noticed the same kind of performance. Anyway else using this new feature and seeing the same issues? I think part of the problem with the NYCFUG broadcast was that it was being done on a laptop that didn't really have enough power to handle things. The Flash video chat application is just a sample and could probably be optimized for use in this context. Also the camera and mic setup was not ideal - when folks were nearer the mic and/or there was less background noise, things were better (especially when Michael D spoke more slowly and clearly). Given the $50 video cam, an underpowered laptop and the fact that the server was hosted in Europe, I think the quality was pretty good. It can definitely be better than that - we've had some high-quality audio-video broadcasts here with FlashCom and tested it with a much larger number of users than we saw connected to the NYCFUG broadcast (or the earlier DevCon Community Suite broadcast). If you're having problems getting the quality you'd like, email me offlist and I'll try to help you work with our FlashCom team to see if we can resolve the issues (and then we can post back here our findings). Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc. tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473 aim: seancorfield -- http://www.macromedia.com An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ Introducing Macromedia Contribute. Web publishing for everyone. Learn more at http://www.macromedia.com/contribute ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: Missing Web Service Operation
At 01:26 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, you wrote: I've tried renaming the method, and tried to access other methods in the CFC to no avail - cant find any of the methods in the CFC. I removed the Web Service from the CF Admin, restarted the CF service, re-added the service and nada. Hmm, I've never used the Web Service stuff in CF Admin - I just have the CFCs web-accessible. Just in case people are wondering about the CF Admin stuff - when you use a CFC as a WS, we cache the the generated java class, so if you change the CFC, it will NOT be reflected in the WS. Therefore, you need to either delete the class file yourself, or use the admin tool to refresh or delete it. You can also use the admin tool to create aliases... MyTool=http://www.somereallylongurl.com/letsgetreallystupidandmakeahorri blylongpath.cfc?wsdl I deleted the published web service from the CF Admin, restarted the service, and re-added the web service and still no luck. How do I determine what .class file to delete? Thanks! -- Alex Sherwood PHS Collection Agency THE COLLECTORS 301.215.4200 T 301.664.6834 F www.phs-net.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: Missing Web Service Operation
I deleted the published web service from the CF Admin, restarted the service, and re-added the web service and still no luck. How do I determine what .class file to delete? Try looking for a .class file with a name like the name of your cfc. I don't remember the exact rule on how we translate a path to a class name. However - if you deleted it in the cfadmin there really shouldn't be a need to even try this. === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Hire Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
CFTHROW with Webservices
When using CFTHROW with Web Services, is there a way to trim down the error message returned? When called as a component, the cfcatch.detail and cfcatch.message are fine, but when called as a web service, they are loaded with AXIS fault codes, etc. How has anyone else handled this? Thanks! -- Alex Sherwood PHS Collection Agency THE COLLECTORS 301.215.4200 T 301.664.6834 F www.phs-net.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Passing CF5 Structures to Java
I don't think you can do that in CF5, you should be able to get something
like that working in CFMX though. Structures in CF5 are in C++ memory land,
but in MX they are java objects, so you can pass them around to your own
stuff.
One workaround is to use WDDX, serialize the structure to WDDX, pass it as a
string, and then in the Java class convert the WDDX into a Hashtable.
Another workaround would be to create a UDF or something that converted a CF
structure into a Java Hashtable by looping through the structure. This would
probably perform better than the WDDX solution.
_
Pete Freitag
CTO, CFDEV.COM
http://www.cfdev.com/
-Original Message-
From: Correa, Orlando (ITSC) [mailto:Orlando.Correa;mail.ihs.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 1:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Passing CF5 Structures to Java
We are experiencing a problem while trying to pass a ColdFusion 5 structure
to a java class that was created using CreateObject. Our java code
conceptually looks something similar to:
public class javaTest {
public static int testThis(Hashtable testVal) {
return 7;
}
}
The call in Cold Fusion is like:
cfset request.o_test = CreateObject(JAVA, javaTest)
cfloop from=1 to=1000 index=i
cfset x = request.o_test.testThis(CFstructure)
/cfloop
where CFstructure is a basic structure (key/value pair) with 2 elements.
We have also tried to cast the structure as a HashMap and an Object and get
the same error each time.
Unknown exception during conversion of a CF type to a Java type
Can anyone help us with this?
Thanks...
Anderson, Ryan R. (ITSC)
Also... we are using JRE 1.4.0 JVM
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Re: CFTHROW with Webservices
On Wednesday, Nov 13, 2002, at 10:57 US/Pacific, Alexander Sherwood wrote: When using CFTHROW with Web Services, is there a way to trim down the error message returned? When called as a component, the cfcatch.detail and cfcatch.message are fine, but when called as a web service, they are loaded with AXIS fault codes, etc. How has anyone else handled this? Ugly, isn't it? My team decided to not throw exceptions out of the Web Service and instead return a struct with the first element indicating success / failure and the second element being either the result (for success) or the CF exception details (for failure). That means that all our Web Service methods look like: cffunction name=foo ... ...args... cfset returnValue = structNew()/ cfset returnValue.success = true/ cftry ... do a bunch of stuff ... cfset returnValue.result = whatever/ cfcatch type=any cfset returnValue.success = false/ cfset returnValue.result = structNew()/ cfset returnValue.result.message = cfcatch.message/ !--- etc --- /cfcatch /cftry cfreturn returnValue/ /cffunction Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc. tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473 aim: seancorfield -- http://www.macromedia.com An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ Introducing Macromedia Contribute. Web publishing for everyone. Learn more at http://www.macromedia.com/contribute ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: M$ mappoint.net
Has anyone on this list managed to integrate a CF application (pref. CF 5) with M$'s mappoint web service offering? Is it even possible? It must be I suppose, though I have never done anything with SOAP (never really found a use for XML up to now, except for WDDX in a limited way). It's certainly possible, but very little of the work would actually be done in CF. You could do this from a Java class - there are Java samples that use the Apache Axis 1.0 release, that work well against Mappoint.NET. These are easily found on Google. I don't think you can use Mappoint.NET from CFMX using CF's own tools yet, either. The version of Axis that is included with CFMX can't parse the Mappoint.NET WSDL (even though it's valid), and CFINVOKE doesn't support Digest authentication, to the best of my knowledge. However, you could use the same Java-based solution I proposed above. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
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RE: cfqueryparam in MX
Pet peeve: *shared* scopes (Hal Helms defines persistent as it's still there after you switch the computer off and I agree with him - scopes are not persistent, databases and files are persistent!). The problem with pet peeves is that they're often hard to justify logically. I have yet to see a real definition for persistent that would rule out its use to describe CF memory variables. I guess it depends on how you define the program that's running - I tend to think of each individual .cfm file as a separate program, so if something lasts beyond its scope, it's persistent. Also, I wasn't aware that the Session scope is shared. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: Flash Com and CFUG meeting
The biggest problem with the audio-video was the browser. We were using IE to connect to the flashcom server and after 10-15 minutes of use (depending on text typed and all) we would need to refresh the browser. This worked on every occasion and after the refresh always went back up to something that people found acceptable. I've been told that you can generate a flash client for this rather than using the browser and will be testing it heavily today. I expect that this will deal with the choppiness. It may also be the hardware, but the fact that refreshing the browser brought the quality back to acceptable levels points to a software issue. I'll have a report on what we did, need to do and have tried out in the next FA. I watched the nycfug meeting last night using Flash Com and noticed that the audio and video were pretty choppy. While doing some internal testing of Flash Com in the office we have noticed the same kind of performance. Anyway else using this new feature and seeing the same issues? Thank you, Dan Phillips Express Technologies, Inc. dba HalfPriceHosting, CFXHosting and Invotion. www.HalfPriceHosting.com www.CFXHosting.com www.Invotion.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: CFTHROW with Webservices
At 11:24 AM 11/13/2002 -0800, you wrote: I debated on whether or not to adopt this methodology (structure-based return variables), but decided to go with the cftry/catch. Might have to rethink this now. Thanks for the insight. On Wednesday, Nov 13, 2002, at 10:57 US/Pacific, Alexander Sherwood wrote: When using CFTHROW with Web Services, is there a way to trim down the error message returned? When called as a component, the cfcatch.detail and cfcatch.message are fine, but when called as a web service, they are loaded with AXIS fault codes, etc. How has anyone else handled this? Ugly, isn't it? My team decided to not throw exceptions out of the Web Service and instead return a struct with the first element indicating success / failure and the second element being either the result (for success) or the CF exception details (for failure). That means that all our Web Service methods look like: cffunction name=foo ... ...args... cfset returnValue = structNew()/ cfset returnValue.success = true/ cftry ... do a bunch of stuff ... cfset returnValue.result = whatever/ cfcatch type=any cfset returnValue.success = false/ cfset returnValue.result = structNew()/ cfset returnValue.result.message = cfcatch.message/ !--- etc --- /cfcatch /cftry cfreturn returnValue/ /cffunction Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc. tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473 aim: seancorfield -- http://www.macromedia.com An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ Introducing Macromedia Contribute. Web publishing for everyone. Learn more at http://www.macromedia.com/contribute ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Flash Com and CFUG meeting
I watched last night and had the same reaction. AFAIK, Michael was using a 1Gig RAM processor and a 48Kb modem? The laptop was the same (400mhz, 128 meg). The line was faster but we also set the connection speed to DSL rather than to LAN. Broadcasting over LAN seems to generate more of a browser problem than using DSL. And for just about any broadcasting need, DSL is more than sufficient as a setting. But the choppiness was better than at DevCon where they had a DSL link. I have been told that there is a memory leak somewhere in the system -- the choppiness gets worse over time. Looks to be the browser. Every 10-15 minutes some one (usually me) would complain and they would refresh the system (whatever that is), and quality would markedly improve. I don't know if it is: Memory Leak, CPU speed, Bandwidth, RAM size, Buffering, or what -- but this choppiness is the biggest negative to the system, The task manager reported that the CPU for the browser was at 100% while the ram was small. What exactly this means will be revealed with some experimentation. Once they get that resolved, I expect we will see enhancements in image size resolution and other features -- that's just technology. I certainly hope they get the choppiness fixed -- this could be a fantastic solution to a lot of communication needs. It could change the world of presentations -- for both the presenters and the audience. Dick On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 07:29 AM, Dan Phillips wrote: I watched the nycfug meeting last night using Flash Com and noticed that the audio and video were pretty choppy. While doing some internal testing of Flash Com in the office we have noticed the same kind of performance. Anyway else using this new feature and seeing the same issues? Thank you, Dan Phillips Express Technologies, Inc. dba HalfPriceHosting, CFXHosting and Invotion. www.HalfPriceHosting.com www.CFXHosting.com www.Invotion.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: Flash Com and CFUG meeting
Thanks for the comments Dick. I was wondering is maybe adjusting the image and sound quality on the web cam would work as well. I will be playing with that myself over the next few days. Setting the broadcast connection to DSL rather than LAN seems to provide a much better stream. I too noticed the 10-15 minute bug you mentioned. In our office, it got the the point where I could not only be on my cam, but on one accross the office as well because of images freezing. Audio by itself and video by itself seemed to be ok. Once we did both, that's when things would slowly start to lag. The typing of text in the chat area is also a factor. The more text, the faster the lag comes up. Something to clear out the text buffer or store it in some way is needed. As this is all done in the flash movie, I expect that it can be fixed as a patch or update rather than a new release. -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:dicklacara;mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash Com and CFUG meeting I watched last night and had the same reaction. AFAIK, Michael was using a 1Gig RAM processor and a 48Kb modem? But the choppiness was better than at DevCon where they had a DSL link. I have been told that there is a memory leak somewhere in the system -- the choppiness gets worse over time. Every 10-15 minutes some one (usually me) would complain and they would refresh the system (whatever that is), and quality would markedly improve. I don't know if it is: Memory Leak, CPU speed, Bandwidth, RAM size, Buffering, or what -- but this choppiness is the biggest negative to the system, Once they get that resolved, I expect we will see enhancements in image size resolution and other features -- that's just technology. I certainly hope they get the choppiness fixed -- this could be a fantastic solution to a lot of communication needs. It could change the world of presentations -- for both the presenters and the audience. Dick On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 07:29 AM, Dan Phillips wrote: I watched the nycfug meeting last night using Flash Com and noticed that the audio and video were pretty choppy. While doing some internal testing of Flash Com in the office we have noticed the same kind of performance. Anyway else using this new feature and seeing the same issues? Thank you, Dan Phillips Express Technologies, Inc. dba HalfPriceHosting, CFXHosting and Invotion. www.HalfPriceHosting.com www.CFXHosting.com www.Invotion.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: Flash Com and CFUG meeting
Thanks Mike. That simpleconnect issue is definitely one of the factors we were dealing with as we were typing rather fast to provide text feed to those without speakers. This is actually one of the things I love about the server. Most of the pieces are done in Flash and all you have to do to upgrade is write a modified flash component. Much easier than sending out whole new apps or the like. i am pretty sure that this is an issue with the text chat component. it doesn't limit the amount of text that it can hold. the more it holds, the more CPU it requires. the solution is to change the component to only hold so much text. when i get a chance, i am going to write up some info on how to do this. also, just fyi, i noticed that we just released some updated components: -- http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashcom/download/components/ Changes (also in the ERRATA.txt inside the .zip): This document describes the bug fixes and enhancements that are included in this revision of the Communication Components. CLIENT-SIDE -The VideoRecord and VideoPlayback components have been added. Documentation for these components in the PDF that is enclosed with the communication components package. -The SimpleConnect component no longer has a memory leak on the client-side; previously, the memory leak occurred if you typed faster than 1 character every 10 milliseconds. -The Presenter Shared Object property of the AVPresence component has been removed. Flash Communication Server now sets the value property of the property automatically. You can use multiple instances of the AVPresence component in one application without having to set this property for each instance. SERVER-SIDE -The application.asc and framework.asc files have been modified to allow garbage collection for applications using components. -A new method, getClientID(client), has been added to the components framework. This method returns a unique ID for each client. The server-side scripts of the components provided have been updated to use this method. --- although i dont think the chat issue was addressed. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dan Phillips [mailto:dphillips;cfxhosting.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Com and CFUG meeting Importance: High Thanks for the comments Dick. I was wondering is maybe adjusting the image and sound quality on the web cam would work as well. I will be playing with that myself over the next few days. I too noticed the 10-15 minute bug you mentioned. In our office, it got the the point where I could not only be on my cam, but on one accross the office as well because of images freezing. Audio by itself and video by itself seemed to be ok. Once we did both, that's when things would slowly start to lag. -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:dicklacara;mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash Com and CFUG meeting I watched last night and had the same reaction. AFAIK, Michael was using a 1Gig RAM processor and a 48Kb modem? But the choppiness was better than at DevCon where they had a DSL link. I have been told that there is a memory leak somewhere in the system -- the choppiness gets worse over time. Every 10-15 minutes some one (usually me) would complain and they would refresh the system (whatever that is), and quality would markedly improve. I don't know if it is: Memory Leak, CPU speed, Bandwidth, RAM size, Buffering, or what -- but this choppiness is the biggest negative to the system, Once they get that resolved, I expect we will see enhancements in image size resolution and other features -- that's just technology. I certainly hope they get the choppiness fixed -- this could be a fantastic solution to a lot of communication needs. It could change the world of presentations -- for both the presenters and the audience. Dick On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 07:29 AM, Dan Phillips wrote: I watched the nycfug meeting last night using Flash Com and noticed that the audio and video were pretty choppy. While doing some internal testing of Flash Com in the office we have noticed the same kind of performance. Anyway else using this new feature and seeing the same issues? Thank you, Dan Phillips Express Technologies, Inc. dba HalfPriceHosting, CFXHosting and Invotion. www.HalfPriceHosting.com www.CFXHosting.com www.Invotion.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority
RE: cfqueryparam in MX
Also, I wasn't aware that the Session scope is shared. It isn't. I agree w/ you about the pet peaves thing - and thanks for the defense - but I was defintely wrong to use 'shared' in this context. I _have_ heard people refer to the session scope as shared - maybe they meant between requests FROM A SINGLE person - but obviously it's not shared between different people(or to be anal, browsers). === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Hire Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: Flash Com and CFUG meeting
That may well be the issue. The laptop was a 400mhz with 128 meg of ram. I've seen much better broadcast performance on my home machine at 2.53 Ghz and 512 meg of ram. While this is not do-able for a laptop, a more modern one would surely help the performance. The camera was a Logitek 4000 which is rather top of the line but the microphone was whatever was built into it. One of the recommendations I'm making for people using this is to have a separate mic (as many have mentioned to me). We'll be doing that for the next meeting. I think part of the problem with the NYCFUG broadcast was that it was being done on a laptop that didn't really have enough power to handle things. The Flash video chat application is just a sample and could probably be optimized for use in this context. Also the camera and mic setup was not ideal - when folks were nearer the mic and/or there was less background noise, things were better (especially when Michael D spoke more slowly and clearly). Given the $50 video cam, an underpowered laptop and the fact that the server was hosted in Europe, I think the quality was pretty good. It can definitely be better than that - we've had some high-quality audio-video broadcasts here with FlashCom and tested it with a much larger number of users than we saw connected to the NYCFUG broadcast (or the earlier DevCon Community Suite broadcast). If you're having problems getting the quality you'd like, email me offlist and I'll try to help you work with our FlashCom team to see if we can resolve the issues (and then we can post back here our findings). Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc. tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473 aim: seancorfield -- http://www.macromedia.com An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ Introducing Macromedia Contribute. Web publishing for everyone. Learn more at http://www.macromedia.com/contribute ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Displaying values passed from one page into an email
I have a page that users are able to go into to see what is currently listed
for their employee information. If a user decides that they need to change
something like their home address and annotate that they speak a foreign
language, they can do so on this page and when they submit the form, an
email is generated that shows only the fields that they have modified.
Ok, so having said that, I can get everything they may modify on the form to
display correctly in the email EXCEPT the foriegn language field.
This field is a dynamic checkbox, and they can select more than one language
if they happen to speak say, French and Spanish.
Here is the code for what is on the form:
tr
tdstrongForeign Languages:/strong/td
td
cfloop query=GetLanguages
cfoutput
input type=Checkbox name=FLanguage value=#LanguageName# cfif
#ListFindNoCase(LanguageList, '#GetLanguages.LanguageName#')#
GT0Checked/cfif
#LanguageName#BR
/cfoutput
/cfloop
/td
/tr
Here are the queries, variables, and how I am finding their changes:
-QUERIES VARIABLES-
cfquery datasource=FirmDaily name=GetLanguages
select * from Languages order by LanguageName
/cfquery
cfset currEmpLangs = #ValueList(GetLanguages.LanguageName)#
cfquery datasource=FirmDaily name=GetEmpLanguages
select * from EmployeeLanguages
where EmpID = '#ID#'
/cfquery
cfset currLanguages = #ValueList(GetEmpLanguages.LanguageName)#
--Checking to see if there's something in the field that was on the
form--
cfif IsDefined('Form.FLanguage')
cfset LangChoice = #Form.FLanguage#
cfelse
cfset LangChoice = 0
/cfif
-Displaying whether to add or delete a language based on what
the user selected---
cfloop list=#CurrEmpLangs# index=i
cfif (#ListFind(LangChoice, '#i#')# GT 0) AND (#ListFind(currLanguages,
'#i#')# EQ 0)
tr
tdbAdd Foreign Language:/b/td
td#LangChoice#/td
/tr
/cfif
cfif (#ListFind(LangChoice, '#i#')# EQ 0) AND (#ListFind(currLanguages,
'#i#')# GT 0)
tr
tdbRemove Foreign Language:/b/td
td#GetEmpLanguages.LanguageName#/td
/tr
/cfif
/cfloop
Can anyone offer some insight into what I may be doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Aimee Clark
Web Developer
Stinson Morrison Hecker LLP
816-691-3461
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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