Re: 3600 Flash

2001-01-31 Thread hmt

When you remove the old flash, there goes your IOS.  For some reason the 
"rom" IOS doesn't allow you to download images via tftp from rom mode.  You 
will need to download IOS to the new Flash via your console port from 
rommode.
One way to get around is if you have a flash card (not SIMMS), copy an IOS 
image in there before you replace the SIMMS.

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Hi All,
I need some help.I am replacing the flash memory of my 3620
router 
from 16MB (8x2) to 32 (16x2). I have taken out both flash SIMMS and
inserted the new Flash SIMMs
(They are blank).After I inserted the Flash SIMMs the router's "syetem"
LED started  blinking constantly.  I have also replaced the DRAMs from
24 MB to 64 (16x4) but they are fine.
Following is the error message

System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(20)AA2, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
C3600 processor with 65536 Kbytes of main memory
Main memory is configured to 64 bit mode with parity disabled

loadprog: error - Invalid image for platform
e_machine = 43, cpu_type = 30
boot: cannot load "flash:"
System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(20)AA2, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELRELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1)
.
.
romon1.

What I want to ask is is it possible that we can insert a brand new
flash in the router and install the new IOS in it provided there is no
flash Memory in it  on other slots or I can only upgrade not replace the
flash SIMMs with the new ones???

What should I do to make it work ?? I have a 3640 router also.Can it be
of my help in any way ? How can I insert the new flash of 16MB in
3640 which has 8 MB SIMM and copy the IOS in it and place it back to
3620  ?? Partition like thing ..
Please giude me.

Thanks to All


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SMNP Question

2001-01-31 Thread Washington, Eric

I have my CCNA and I have 1 year and a half experiencebut I
don't know what SNMP means.. I only knows from what I heard. I heard that it
is a checking type protocol.   I am not sure and I would appreciate if
someone can push me into the right direction or even explain it to me??  I
would greatly appreciate it.

Eric Washington

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DR Election

2001-01-31 Thread pinoal



Hi ,

From the OSPF Design Guide - Sam Halabi

' DR and BDR concepts are per multiaccess segment '

My question is what type of segments are considered  as "multiaccess
segment" ?

Ethernet , FR with Point-to-Multipoint with broadcast option enabled , any
others??

What does he mean by 'per multiaccess segment ' ?

thanks


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Re[2]: gsr12012 show command..

2001-01-31 Thread Adam Obszynski

 The following is from a GSR 12012, running 12.0(10)S1
 router#sho int ser 1/0
 router#sho controllers serial 1/0

there also:

r1#sh gsr
Slot 0  type  = Route Processor
state = IOS Running  PRIMARY
Slot 1  type  = 1 port ATM Over SONET OC12c/STM-4c
state = Line Card Enabled
Slot 2  type  = 4 port ATM Over SONET OC-3c/STM-1
state = Line Card Enabled
[...]

LC-Slot1#show ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) GS Software (GLC1-LC-M), Version 12.0(15)S, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE SOFTWARE 
(fc1)
TAC Support: http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/ibld/view.pl?i=support
Copyright (c) 1986-2001 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 26-Jan-01 18:42 by pwade
Image text-base: 0x40010950, data-base: 0x4048

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.0(2609:183828) [bdelaney-blizzard.commit 104], 
DEVELOPMENT SOFTWARE
ROM: GS Software (GLC1-LC-M), Version 12.0(15)S, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE SOFTWARE 
(fc1)

LC-Slot1 uptime is 17 hours, 37 minutes
System restarted at 16:14:09 MET Tue Jan 30 2001
Running default software

cisco OC12-ATM (R5000) processor (revision 0x02) with 262144K bytes of memory.
R5000 CPU at 200Mhz, Implementation 35, Rev 2.1
Last reset from mbus reset

Configuration register is 0x0

LC-Slot1#sh contr
TX SAR (Patch 3.2.2) is Operational;
RX SAR (Patch 3.2.2) is Operational;

Interface Configuration Mode:
STM-4

Active Maker Channels: total # 5
VCID VPI ChID Type  OutputInfoInPkts   InOAMs  MacString
   1   0 2D08 UBR0C019120  152740 2D08200003000800
   00
   2   0 2D28 UBR0C019140  00 2D28200003000800
   00
   3   0 2D48 UBR0C0191604020 2D48200003000800
   00
   4   0 2E88 UBR0C019180 3314750 2E88200003000800
   00
   5   0 2EA8 UBR0C0191A0 1522480 2EA8200003000800
   00

SAR Counters:
tx_paks459851 tx_abort_paks 0 tx_idle_cells   2584471704
rx_paks499189 rx_drop_paks  0 rx_discard_cells10

Host Counters:
rx_crc_err_paks  0 rx_giant_paks  0
rx_abort_paks0 rx_crc10_cells 0
rx_tmout_paks0 rx_unknown_paks0
rx_out_buf_paks  0 rx_unknown_vc_paks 0
rx_len_err_paks  0 rx_len_crc32_err_paks  0



LC-Slot1#sh contr ?
  atmShow ATM controllers
  events LC event counters
  fiaFabric Interface ASIC info
  frfab  From Fab (TX)
  io IO information
  l3 L3 information
  ratelimit  Rate limit information
  rewrites   L2 rewrite table
  tofab  To Fab (RX)
  |  Output modifiers
  cr


  

-- 
Regards,
Adam Obszyñski
ATM Inc.
+48-22-5156418


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Re: DR Election

2001-01-31 Thread Adam Burgess

Any network that can only has 2 OSPF routers (ie. Point-to-Point Serial)
does not need to be involved in a DR/BDR election.

Any other type of network (even and Ethernet network that only has two OSPF
routers) is a 'Multiaccess segment'.

Regards

Adam Burgess
Brisbane, Australia

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Subject: DR Election




 Hi ,

 From the OSPF Design Guide - Sam Halabi

 ' DR and BDR concepts are per multiaccess segment '

 My question is what type of segments are considered  as "multiaccess
 segment" ?

 Ethernet , FR with Point-to-Multipoint with broadcast option enabled , any
 others??

 What does he mean by 'per multiaccess segment ' ?

 thanks


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Dont Bother This List

2001-01-31 Thread Wilfredo M. Ruelos

If you want free stuff, dont bother this list anymore, just go to this site.
www.8bn.com/hambo

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Re: Looking for job in Canada

2001-01-31 Thread Dost

Just comon down here, there is almost nothing you
can do if u not here.

Inamul in Vancouver

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CCIE Prep lab at UCSC

2001-01-31 Thread Kevin Welch

I was wondering if anyone has any expereince using the CCIE Prep Lab =
facility at UCSC.  Thoughts, comments, usefulness of this facility =
appreciated.

-- Kevin

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Re: CiscoSecure ACS 2.3 and Windows 2000

2001-01-31 Thread Javier Contreras

Hi

It will work on W2k WITHOUT the sp1, if you apply the service pack,
the radius and tacacs+ services don´t work anymore (the rest of the
services still work)
I don´t know the reason, if somebody have an idea... :-)

On performance, it was OK

Regards!

Langa Kentane wrote:
 
 Greetings.
 I am considering upgrading my NT 4.0 Server sp6a that is running CiscoSecure
 to Windows 2000 Server.
 
 Has anyone run ACS on Windows 2000 before?  Any problems?  How is the
 perfomance.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Langa Kentane
 Security Admin
 Discovery Health LTD
 
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Routers for practice

2001-01-31 Thread Vineet Anand

Hi

I am studying for BSCN 2.0 I am looking out for some source on net where I
can do some practice of various configuration of OSPF, EIGRP etc.

Has anyone used the routers on net or simulators like Krang or RouterEMU
from routersimulator.com

Need urgent help in this matter. Any Help

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Re: case studies using PPP authentication

2001-01-31 Thread Bradley J. Wilson

Quick question - why is out-of-band management via modems not recommended?


- Original Message -
From: Jim Healis
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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: case studies using PPP authentication


Some examples that come to mind:
DDR links - these should have authentication so no unauthorized access
is obtained.
Out-of-band management - a modem connected to a console/aux port (though
not recommended)
Session authentication for ISP users - ISP users with dialup or PPPoE

Randy Mueller wrote:

 I've been doing a lot of reading on PPP these past few days, and while I
think I have a semi-decent understanding of how it works, I don't quite
understand why PPP authentication would be configured.

 Can somebody provide some insight into a practical use, maybe point me to
some case studies or other links?

 It's my understanding that it is primarily used on dial-up links, and that
makes sense.  But under what circumstances would it come into use?

 Maybe somebody could just send me an example of it's use?

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cisco 803

2001-01-31 Thread Mayomi Anuwe

I have two ISDN routers 803. Both have been configured using ppp encap, auth
chap, the dialer string is correct, the dialer map is correct however these
routers dont connect.

The problem I have is that I can make the routers dial-out to other routers
and in that process see the handshake taking place, but cannot dial into any
of the routers.

What I mean is they are both happy as to dialout but would not accept calls.

Help.

Mayo anuwe

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Lowering of standards on CCNP 2.0?

2001-01-31 Thread Geoff Zinderdine

Listmembers,

I wrote the BSCN on Monday, and I must say that I was
underwhelmed.  I read Halabi and Moy's book on OSPF a
year or so ago so they weren't exactly top of mind,
and used the BSCN guide.  Even using this guide almost
exclusively I scored well over 900 with ten days
study.  

I hope that I just got an easy batch of questions from
the pool.  It doesn't bode well for the value of this
certification if the bar is significantly lowered.  I
hope that they put the pass up to 790 as they did with
the ACRC.  Even at this level, it would still be a
relatively easy exam.

Does anybody else feel the same way?  I don't want to
see the value of this certification which so many of
us are spending a considerable amount of money and
time on plummet because of a relaxing of standards.

If so, perhaps we could write individually or as a
group to Cisco to recommend a reevaluation of their
passing grades/exam development.  If I am way out in
left field on this, my apologies to the list for
lowering the s/n ratio:P

Best regards,

Geoffrey Zinderdine
CCNA MCP2K CCA BLAH BLAH BLAH



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3640 PPP Authentication Issue

2001-01-31 Thread Adam Burgess

I have a 3640 with IP Plus 56 12.0(7)T. =20

The box connects to 3 different LANs using Ethernet.  It has a 10 =
channel PRI running 4 data and 6 voice channels, with aaa configured but =
no external authentication is set (or needed), so all authentication is =
based on local accounts.

I would like to connect to another site with serial (2048Kbps unframed =
data via G.703 convertor into X.21 interface), but this new link MUST =
use PPP encapsulation, and the other end does not (or the admin will =
not) support PPP authentication.

The problem is that whenever I try to connect the serial line to the =
router, aaa jumps in and decides that it needs to authenticate with the =
remote end.  I can't remove AAA as it will cause problems with the =
existing data services running through this router.

I am looking at the following possible configuration to my problem:

  aaa authentication NOAUTH none
  aaa authorization network NOAUTH none
  interface serial 2/0
   encapsulation ppp
   ppp authentication chap pap NOAUTH
   ppp authorization NOAUTH

Each time I try to bring the service over to this router it causes about =
10-15 minutes downtime (as the connection is currently running via =
another router) and I would like to minimise that if possible.

Any ideas ?  Does anyone know if this will/will not work ?

Thanks in advance.

Adam Burgess
Brisbane, Australia

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RE: BSCN??

2001-01-31 Thread Stephen Skinner


for a really GOOD instruction on BGP + explanations
try the following URL.

it`s the best BGP guide i ever seen

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/bgp-toc.html


regards steve
From: "William E. Gragido" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "William E. Gragido" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Gopinath Pulyankote'" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: BSCN??
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:11:47 -0600

I cannot say that there were or were not, that would violate the NDA,
however I can say that I did not spend nearly as much time studying IPX
EIGRP scenarios as I did studying IP EIGRP scenarios.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
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was there any IPX EIGRP questions?

"Timothy Metz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  I just took the BSCN today and all I used was the Cisco Press book. I 
read
  the book and then read it again while creating my own study guide. So 
far,
  the Cisco press books have not let me down one bit. If you know them, 
you
  will have zero problems on the test.
 
  As far as the test itself, in my case, the first two thirds were easy.
What
  I mean by that is no reading in-between the lines or remembering really
  obscure details were necessary. The last third took as long as the first
two
  thirds. The questions were challenging and required much thought. I 
scored
a
  885.
 
 
  Tim
 
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   Buri, Heather H
   Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:55 PM
   To: 'William E. Gragido'; 'AndyD'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   Subject: RE: BSCN??
  
  
   For this exam, would you recommend that the explanation of BGP 
provided
in
   the BSCN books is sufficient or would you recommend Basaam Halabi's
book,
   Internet Routing Architectures, to pass the exam?  Also, what book(s) 
do
   people recommend for this exam?
  
   I currently have the BSCN book by Thomas M. Thomas published by
   McGraw Hill
   ISBN 0-07-212477-6 and I don't like it.  I am only on Chapter 4 but 
have
   already found too many typos in it.  I expect a few, but this is
   ridiculous.
   Can anyone recommend the book by Cisco Press for BSCN?
  
   Thanks,
  
   Heather Buri
  
  
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   From: William E. Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:12 AM
   To: 'AndyD'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: BSCN??
  
  
   No IS-IS, but you must know OSPF configs, EIGRP and BGPv4 like its 
cool
  
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   Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:49 PM
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   Subject: BSCN??
  
  
   Has anybody out there taken the BSCN test?? How was it??  Were there 
any
   questions on IS-IS?  Mostly OSPF and BGP??
  
   Thanks,
  
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Re: DLSW+ question

2001-01-31 Thread Flem

Well , I do not agree on this .

--- Groupstudy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 IRB is used to perform a limited form of Ethernet to
 Token Ring
 routing/bridging. 

This is not the main objective of IRB .
Moreover IRB does not support frames with RIF . Thus
IRB is of limited help in these kind of applications .

 It was somewhat useful prior to
 Ciscos implementation of
 Source-Route Translational bridging which has a much
 richer feature set and
 capability. 

Translational bridging and IRB are totally different
things .

 DLSW performs Ethernet to Token-Ring
 translation automatically

Be aware that Dlsw does *not* support local ethernet
to token-ring translation .

 and although possible, it is very unlikely you would
 need to have both IRB
 and DLSW configured on the same router.
 
 Anyway, to answer the original post, your configs
 look OK but we really need
 more info to
 troubleshoot.  My immediate thoughts is whether DLSW
 can operate over PPP
 encapsulation. 


Dlsw is supported over ppp . 
It does not care about the link layer protocol .

I would try HDLC and see if that
 helps.  If you have an
 access list on either serial port, make sure it
 opens up the correct tcp
 ports to allow DLSW to traverse the wire.  The
 easiest way is just to
 temporarily remove the access list and see how you
 fare.  I believe the
 correct ports are 2065, 1981, 1982 and 1983. 

In this case 2065 will do . The others are used when
priorization is configured . 

 Make
 sure loopback interfaces
 are also in the same routing domain as your peer
 statements, looks like they
 are but...
 

The the peers are not in a "connect" state.
Fix your routing so that you can do an extended ping
between the Dlsw peers .Fix this and Dlsw and Dlsw
will work . Take a look at your routing tables



flem

 
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:55 AM
 Subject: Re: DLSW+ question
 
 
  You are currently on the ethernet interface, try
 adding the following
 command
  on both routers:
 
  bridge irb
  brigde 1 route ip
 
  Rich
 
  On Jan 30,  6:48pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] chatted about:
   Subject:DLSW+ question
  
   I am trying to setup two routers with DLSW+ ,
 when I do with routing ,I
 can'=
   t=20
   ping each other loopback interfaces for some
 reason.=20
  
  
   Hostname DCE_Router
   dlsw local-peer peer-id 10.1.1.1
   dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 10.1.1.2
   dlsw bridge-group 1
  
   Loopback0
   =A0 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  
   interface Ethernet0
   ip address 150.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
   bridge-group 1
  
   interface Serial0
   ip address 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0
   encapsulation ppp
   clockrate 64000
  
  
   bridge 1 protocol ieee
  
   router eigrp 100
   network 10.0.0.0
   redistribute connected
  
   ___
  
   Hostname DTE_Router
   dlsw local-peer peer-id 10.1.1.2
   dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 10.1.1.1
   dlsw bridge-group 1
  
   Loopback0
   =A0 ip address 10.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
  
   interface Ethernet0
   ip address 160.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
   bridge-group 1
  
   interface Serial0
   ip address 10.1.2.2 255.255.255.0
   encapsulation ppp
  
  
   bridge 1 protocol ieee
  
  
  
   router eigrp 100
   network 10.0.0.0
   redistribute connected
  
  
  
  
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RE: 3600 Flash

2001-01-31 Thread Chris Supino

CCNA,

You will need to replace the image on the flash chips via console cable
(Xmodem) after you insert the new flash chips. This is the only way to do it
on a 3600. I believe on a 2600 you have TFTP download available from Rommon
mode.

Chris

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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 2:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 3600 Flash


Hi All,
I need some help.I am replacing the flash memory of my 3620 router
from 16MB (8x2) to 32 (16x2). I have taken out both flash SIMMS and inserted
the new Flash SIMMs
(They are blank).After I inserted the Flash SIMMs the router's "syetem" LED
started  blinking constantly.  I have also replaced the DRAMs from 24 MB to
64 (16x4) but they are fine.
Following is the error message

System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(20)AA2, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
C3600 processor with 65536 Kbytes of main memory
Main memory is configured to 64 bit mode with parity disabled

loadprog: error - Invalid image for platform
e_machine = 43, cpu_type = 30
boot: cannot load "flash:"
System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(20)AA2, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELRELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
.
.
romon1.

What I want to ask is is it possible that we can insert a brand new flash in
the router and install the new IOS in it provided there is no flash Memory
in it  on other slots or I can only upgrade not replace the flash SIMMs with
the new ones???

What should I do to make it work ?? I have a 3640 router also.Can it be of
my help in any way ? How can I insert the new flash of 16MB in 3640
which has 8 MB SIMM and copy the IOS in it and place it back to 3620  ??
Partition like thing ..
Please giude me.

Thanks to All


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CCDA Version Upgraded??

2001-01-31 Thread micuru

I've just taken a CCDA exam and failed.

I wonder that the verions of CCDA has upgraded?? I thought the version
number was 1.0 but my text is for version 2.




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ISDN dialer map and broadcast...

2001-01-31 Thread Nigel Taylor

Hi All,
When using the command=20

"dialer map protocol next-hop-addr name=3Dhostname BROADCAST =
dial-string

I've made some weird observations.  I checked CCO and it states that the =
broadcast option is optional(for=20
enabling IPX/RIP, IPX/SAP updates across the link) but when configuring =
2 directly connected routers in=20
an attempt to use dynamic routing(rip/igrp/eigrp) no routes were being =
learned by either device.=20
 I enabled the broadcast option on one side of the ISDN connection and =
the routes were propagated. =20
However, the other side did not pass its routing information.  There's =
couple of sample TAC=20
configurations  that make no use if the broadcast option and routing =
works. =20

What I'm I missing...or is this a noted "feature" within the IOS...?

Nigel.
=20

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Re: ISDN dialer map and broadcast...

2001-01-31 Thread David FAHED

All the routing protocol use broadcast or unicast to exchange information. If
you don't put the keyword broadcast you will let pass through the isdn line
only unicast packet. No the broadcast and Multicast packet.

Hope this help!


Nigel Taylor wrote:

 Hi All,
 When using the command=20

 "dialer map protocol next-hop-addr name=3Dhostname BROADCAST =
 dial-string

 I've made some weird observations.  I checked CCO and it states that the =
 broadcast option is optional(for=20
 enabling IPX/RIP, IPX/SAP updates across the link) but when configuring =
 2 directly connected routers in=20
 an attempt to use dynamic routing(rip/igrp/eigrp) no routes were being =
 learned by either device.=20
  I enabled the broadcast option on one side of the ISDN connection and =
 the routes were propagated. =20
 However, the other side did not pass its routing information.  There's =
 couple of sample TAC=20
 configurations  that make no use if the broadcast option and routing =
 works. =20

 What I'm I missing...or is this a noted "feature" within the IOS...?

 Nigel.
 =20

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IOS Version question

2001-01-31 Thread Stuart Laubstein

I have just bought an IOS 12.0(7)XK1   IP/FW Feature Pack. My first question
is if I am correct in assuming that I will need to have 8mb of flash and 32
mb of ram. My second question is how difficult is it for me to install the
new RAM if I had it. I think I only have 16 mb but I could buy 2 more 8 mb
modules (or is the number of modules limited) couldnt I? This would be on a
Cisco 2503 or 2501. 

thanks

stu

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Cisco Exam Certification Guide vs. Course Manual

2001-01-31 Thread Mari Misato

Hi, everybody:

Do you know if the following applies to CCNP 2.0 courses/exams?? There
are currently two books for each CCNP exam. What do you think??

Thanks.

Mari

Hi Scott,

Cisco Press tries to produce two types of books for each test: the course
manual and a study guide.

The book edited by Laura Chappell is the actual Cisco course manual ported
to book format. If you have not attended the class, this is a good book to
get. If you attended the class, you would be disappointed with this book
because it's essentially the same as the course manual.

The other type of certification book Cisco Press publishes is a study
guide. This type of book does not follow the course manual exactly. The
author writes about the subject in a refreshing manner that does not repeat
the course.

The study guide is best used if you know the material somewhat already.
It's especially good to use right before you take the test.

The CD practice exam that comes with the study guides should help, but the
one that comes with the ACRC Study Guide is full of typos and minor
technical mistakes, (not Clare's fault I don't think). Otherwise the ACRC
Study Guide is great. That's what I used and I found her writing to be very
clear. Her method of teaching IP addressing and summarization is great. I
think the OSPF chapter has some mistakes, though.

Priscilla

P.S. I got off group study for now because I'm on the road. I'm not sure
this post will make it since I'm not on the list? But I copied you.



At 07:28 AM 4/28/2000 -0700, Scott Merritt wrote:
Hi Group,

I have a predicament.  I recently purchased the "Advanced Cisco Router 
Configuration" Cisco Press book by Laura Chappell.  So, since I am able to 
sometimes study at work (I work in a NOC) I brought it in to study.  I 
found out a co-worker also has a Cisco Press book on this subject titled 
"ACRC Exam Certification Guide" by Clare Gough.  I'm confused!!!  2 Cisco 
press books on the same subject?  Which one is a better test prep for the 
exam?  Also, since passing the exam is not the entire reason I'm reading 
about this, which one will I learn more from?  Should I just buy both?

I would appreciate the opinions of any people who have either passed the 
ACRC or have read either or both of the above mentioned books!

And Priscilla, I CC'ed you because I value your opinion highly!

Thank you to all who answer!

Scott
SBC DataComm

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RE: SMNP Question

2001-01-31 Thread Buri, Heather H

Eric,

Here is a link that will explain the SNMP protocol.
http://www.cisco.com/cpress/cc/td/cpress/fund/ith2nd/it2452.htm

Without getting into too much detail, it is basically used for management
purposes of devices such as routers, switches, hubs, printers, servers, etc.

Heather

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I have my CCNA and I have 1 year and a half experiencebut I
don't know what SNMP means.. I only knows from what I heard. I heard that it
is a checking type protocol.   I am not sure and I would appreciate if
someone can push me into the right direction or even explain it to me??  I
would greatly appreciate it.

Eric Washington

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Re: IOS Version question

2001-01-31 Thread Richard Gallagher

Hi Stuart,

The 12.0.7-XK1 is only supported on 2610-2621 and not the two models that you
have have mentioned. Is there any particular reason that you need this image??

You are correct in that the image requires 32MB of DRAM and 8MD of Flash

The 2600 series has two slots for DRAM, so if they are both full you are going
to have to change them for 2 x 16MB.

Rich

On Jan 31,  2:24pm, Stuart Laubstein chatted about:
 Subject:IOS Version question
 I have just bought an IOS 12.0(7)XK1   IP/FW Feature Pack. My first question
 is if I am correct in assuming that I will need to have 8mb of flash and 32
 mb of ram. My second question is how difficult is it for me to install the
 new RAM if I had it. I think I only have 16 mb but I could buy 2 more 8 mb
 modules (or is the number of modules limited) couldnt I? This would be on a
 Cisco 2503 or 2501.

 thanks

 stu

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Knowledgenet

2001-01-31 Thread Nitin

Hi guys,

Does anyone know about the quality of classes on this website. Anyone has
attanded recently. Is it good for a biginar to do the cources. How is lab
facility?

Any help is greatly appreciated...thanks


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Re: Lowering of standards on CCNP 2.0?

2001-01-31 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Listmembers,

I wrote the BSCN on Monday, and I must say that I was
underwhelmed.  I read Halabi and Moy's book on OSPF a
year or so ago so they weren't exactly top of mind,
and used the BSCN guide.  Even using this guide almost
exclusively I scored well over 900 with ten days
study. 

I hope that I just got an easy batch of questions from
the pool.  It doesn't bode well for the value of this
certification if the bar is significantly lowered.  I
hope that they put the pass up to 790 as they did with
the ACRC.  Even at this level, it would still be a
relatively easy exam.

Does anybody else feel the same way?  I don't want to
see the value of this certification which so many of
us are spending a considerable amount of money and
time on plummet because of a relaxing of standards.

There are several fundamental issues here.

First, contrary to popular belief, it isn't in Cisco's interest to 
keep the pool of certified people small -- AS LONG AS the pools at 
each level can do the job.

 From Cisco's principal perspective, the first purpose of the 
certification program is to facilitate Cisco's outsourcing of support 
to resellers.  Yes, they certifications do have other benefits, but 
that is Cisco's principal corporate goal.

I honestly don't know if someone in Cisco is doing something as 
rational as saying what tasks should a BSCN certificated person be 
able to do, as opposed to what general knowledge such a person to 
have.

But if they have, it may not be inconsistent to lower standards if 
they feel the standards are getting in the way of sales and support.


If so, perhaps we could write individually or as a
group to Cisco to recommend a reevaluation of their
passing grades/exam development.  If I am way out in
left field on this, my apologies to the list for
lowering the s/n ratio:P

Best regards,

Geoffrey Zinderdine
CCNA MCP2K CCA BLAH BLAH BLAH

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AW: IOS Version question

2001-01-31 Thread Stuart Laubstein

I have it for  a new 3640 we are getting. I wanted to install it so that I
could test it on a non production machine as I only have 11.2 on my lab and
that didnt offer the options of 12.0. Is there version of 12 that will work
on my cisco 2500's? How much does the IOS alone cost anyways?

stu

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Richard Gallagher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet am: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 2:32 PM
An: Stuart Laubstein; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
Betreff: Re: IOS Version question

Hi Stuart,

The 12.0.7-XK1 is only supported on 2610-2621 and not the two models that
you
have have mentioned. Is there any particular reason that you need this
image??

You are correct in that the image requires 32MB of DRAM and 8MD of Flash

The 2600 series has two slots for DRAM, so if they are both full you are
going
to have to change them for 2 x 16MB.

Rich

On Jan 31,  2:24pm, Stuart Laubstein chatted about:
 Subject:IOS Version question
 I have just bought an IOS 12.0(7)XK1   IP/FW Feature Pack. My first
question
 is if I am correct in assuming that I will need to have 8mb of flash and
32
 mb of ram. My second question is how difficult is it for me to install the
 new RAM if I had it. I think I only have 16 mb but I could buy 2 more 8 mb
 modules (or is the number of modules limited) couldnt I? This would be on
a
 Cisco 2503 or 2501.

 thanks

 stu

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Re: AW: IOS Version question

2001-01-31 Thread Richard Gallagher

Hi Stu,

The image that you have for the 3600, will not run on the 2600 (if that is what
you mean).

The best image depends on what features you are intending on running. If it's
just usual routing etc... then 12.0(15) would be the one i'd recommend. Not
sure on the price of an IOS!!!

Rich

On Jan 31,  2:44pm, Stuart Laubstein chatted about:
 Subject:AW: IOS Version question
 I have it for  a new 3640 we are getting. I wanted to install it so that I
 could test it on a non production machine as I only have 11.2 on my lab and
 that didnt offer the options of 12.0. Is there version of 12 that will work
 on my cisco 2500's? How much does the IOS alone cost anyways?

 stu

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Richard Gallagher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet am: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 2:32 PM
 An: Stuart Laubstein; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
 Betreff: Re: IOS Version question

 Hi Stuart,

 The 12.0.7-XK1 is only supported on 2610-2621 and not the two models that
 you
 have have mentioned. Is there any particular reason that you need this
 image??

 You are correct in that the image requires 32MB of DRAM and 8MD of Flash

 The 2600 series has two slots for DRAM, so if they are both full you are
 going
 to have to change them for 2 x 16MB.

 Rich

 On Jan 31,  2:24pm, Stuart Laubstein chatted about:
  Subject:IOS Version question
  I have just bought an IOS 12.0(7)XK1   IP/FW Feature Pack. My first
 question
  is if I am correct in assuming that I will need to have 8mb of flash and
 32
  mb of ram. My second question is how difficult is it for me to install the
  new RAM if I had it. I think I only have 16 mb but I could buy 2 more 8 mb
  modules (or is the number of modules limited) couldnt I? This would be on
 a
  Cisco 2503 or 2501.
 
  thanks
 
  stu
 
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CiscoSecure ACS and licencing

2001-01-31 Thread Langa Kentane

Greetings.

I have CiscoSecure ACS 2.3 and would like to upgrade to 2.6.  Will I need to
buy another licence?
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Zero for a host address

2001-01-31 Thread Randy Witt

Have an issue, hope many of you don't feel this is too off topic.  Many of =
you have helped me in the past with certification questions, perhaps you =
can assist with this one as well.

I am trying to establish a connection to the City of Greenville's network. =
 What should be a simple connection is giving me fits.

I'm currently using 2 Cisco 1601 routers, routing RIPv2.  From my network =
to the city's, I pass through a total of 5 routers (2 our mine, 3 belong =
to the city).  Currently I can communicate with each router and vice versa =
via Telnet or ping.  However, the city of Greenville's network has the =
following IP address 10.128.0.0/12 (or 255.240.0.0).  The interface =
attached to the city of Greenville's network is 10.130.0.1/12.  Everything =
within this network has  3'd octet of zero. =20

Originally, from his network he could not ping us, however I could ping =
him (him being the net admin using a PC with an address of 10.130.0.24/12).=
  I added a default route on one of my Cisco's pointing back to his =
network and that problem went away.  Now I'm trying to add an ACL on our =
router blocking all but Telnet traffic coming from a host on his network =
to a host within our network.  In testing I can get the ACL's to work for =
every system except one on the 10.128.0.0 subnet.  By work I mean on the =
networks in between my network and the city's I can setup ICMP or Telnet =
ACL's permitting traffic and they can get in.  This was done for testing =
purposes only.  My goal is to lock everyone out but the host w/ an IP =
address of 10.130.0.24/12.

I believe that the problem lies with the zero being used as a third octet =
.  However I've seen Cisco documentation using zero's as host addresses.  =
I'm a bit confused for I've found plenty of documentation stating that =
zero's in the network/subnet address aren't recommended, however I can =
find nothing stating zero's in the "host" portion aren't recommended.

Any ideas?  Has anyone come across a problem like this before?

Simple answer would be to tell the city of Greenville to remove the zero =
in the third octet and replace it with a one or higher.  The answer from =
them is that it would be too much trouble.  This is their default gateway =
for over 450 machines.  So I'm looking for help to see if there's anything =
else I can try.

Thanks for any and all advice,
rtw

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3 belong to the city).nbsp; Currently I can communicate with each router and 
vice versa via Telnet or ping.nbsp; However, thenbsp;city of 
Greenville'snbsp;network has the following IP address 10.128.0.0/12 (or 
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however I could ping him (him beingnbsp;the net admin using anbsp;PC with an 
address of 10.130.0.24/12).nbsp; I added a default route on one of my Cisco's 
pointing back to his network and that problem went away.nbsp; Now I'm trying to 
add an ACL on our router blocking all but Telnet traffic coming from a host on 
his network to a host within our network.nbsp; In testing I can get the ACL's 
to work for every system except one on the 10.128.0.0 subnet.nbsp; By work I 
mean on the networks in between my network and the city's I can setup ICMP or 
Telnet ACL's permitting traffic and they can get in.nbsp; This was done for 
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Network Management Program (which???)

2001-01-31 Thread NeoLink2000

Hey Group,
 Need some help on this one. I just came on as a contractor for this company. The 
network is somewhat small. They have around 186 routers worldwide and around 22 
switches that they have to worry about. So all in all, there are around 200 managed 
devices for us to take care of. Currently they are using some program called "What's 
Up Gold". Personally, I hate this thing. It's not secure, the features are minimal, 
and I hate web based stuff. They have it set up on one machine and everyone access's 
it from the web to it's IP.
 The manager has expresed some interest in other methods but it will be hard to 
move him away from what there is now after he gets back in a week from a business 
trip. I would like to present a proposal on a new management system. My problem is 
that I have only worked in Openview before. I think Openview is awesome and gives you 
all the features you need and more. For this site though, I think it would be too 
much. I just don't think it's really needed for the size of this network and the 
management/configuration of it would overseed the network management itself.
 Basically, I'm asking what you guru's out there think I should present to use. 
Should it be CiscoWorks2000, Openview, or stay with What's Up Gold? I really 
appreciate the help and thanks for putting up with the long post. Thanks all,

Mark Z...

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Re: DR Election

2001-01-31 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Hi ,

From the OSPF Design Guide - Sam Halabi

' DR and BDR concepts are per multiaccess segment '

My question is what type of segments are considered  as "multiaccess
segment" ?

Ethernet , FR with Point-to-Multipoint with broadcast option enabled , any
others??

What does he mean by 'per multiaccess segment ' ?

thanks



Multiaccess falls into two categories:

   Broadcast multiaccess
 LANs
 NBMA with broadcast servers (e.g., ATM MARS)
   Nonbroadcast multiaccess
 Frame
 ATM

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Problem with Cisco Secure ACS

2001-01-31 Thread Michael Pongratz

Hi @ll,

I have a problem with Cisco Secure ACS 2.4. Maybe someone
can help me !?


Problem:

NT Server running Cisco Secure 2.4(1). If a user is telneting into
a switch she / he should get authenticated by tacas+ and get a
modified privileged level with more commands than in the user mode.

The user should be allowed to set duplex and speed on the interfaces
but nothing else. I created a group and put a testuser in it.
The authentication works. The user is then in my desired priv level 
(in this case I took 4). If I enter show privilege it shows 4.

Then I added in -- group setup / ios commands   the command configure
and under arguments -- permit terminal to test if I can enter
configuration mode with this but it didn t work.

I know that I can configure the commands local in all devices but
I want to solve this problem with Cisco Secure.

Does anybody of you has a solution for this problem ?

Thanks in advance.

ciao

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801 to the Internet

2001-01-31 Thread CCNA

Hi,

I would like to connect to the Internet using my 801 router. Is there a way
to accomplish this without having a fixed IP-address. I mean just as a normal
PC connecting to the internet.

Regards,

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Can I use old CCNP books for CCNP 2.0 ?

2001-01-31 Thread Alec Smiths

Hi all,

I found a CCNP set of Cisco Press ACRC, BCRAN, CLSC,
CIT books. Can I use those books for new CCNP exams ?
And what other topics do I need to study in addition
to that? 

Alec,


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remove pwynn@logical.com from list

2001-01-31 Thread Paul Wynn

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Ethernet switching

2001-01-31 Thread alexs

Hello everyone,

I have a question that probably will sound silly but here it is:
Suppose that you take a new 2924 out of the box and you plug in two PC's.
You assign address, for example, 142.102.2.1 to the first one and
142.102.3.1 to the second one.There is not any router in this small
network.142.102.2.1 tries to ping 142.102.3.1.The question is: will
142.102.2.1 get a reply and why?
Thanks
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1720 Backplane

2001-01-31 Thread Atef Rostom

Hi All,

Can the backplane of an 1720 support the full bandwidth (8Mbps) provided if
I install 2 WIC-2T's ?

Atef


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RE: Network Management Program (which???)

2001-01-31 Thread Estes, Timothy R.

Mark Z, 

You're in a situation that a lot of router techs run into. What's Up Gold
sucks and HPOV is to expensive. There really isn't any middle ground that
I'm aware of. I've seen some "homegrown" solutions that people have
developed, but no one has really come to the table to compete with HP in the
middle sized network arena. I wish they would. Many companies in your
situation are going with outsourced Network Management. I don't suggest this
unless you really trust the company that you're trusting your network to,
and you have a water-tight contract with them. 

I use multiple intallations of HPOV, some with NavisCore (CascadeView), and
some with CiscoView/CiscoWorks. I also use evaluation versions of OV to
exercise SNMP agents on new devices. It has the most bang for the time it
takes to congirue it, when you're trying to document the SNMP traps that a
specific agent produces. Companies my size need something even bigger than
OV, like NetCool (Cisco InfoCenter) to manage their many management systems.
We use Evidian OpenMaster. Its not my favorite, but it has a nice interface
for managing Nortel DMS500 Class 5 switches. I recommend NetCool for a
manager of managers. Its by far the most flexible MoM out there. 

Let me know if I can provide any more info...

Good luck,

Timothy Estes CCNA
Senior Network Systems Analyst
Tier III Systems Support
Intermedia Communications Inc.
1 Intermedia Way
MC FLT TE-2
Tampa FL 33674
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Subject: Network Management Program (which???)


Hey Group,
 Need some help on this one. I just came on as a contractor for this
company. The network is somewhat small. They have around 186 routers
worldwide and around 22 switches that they have to worry about. So all in
all, there are around 200 managed devices for us to take care of. Currently
they are using some program called "What's Up Gold". Personally, I hate this
thing. It's not secure, the features are minimal, and I hate web based
stuff. They have it set up on one machine and everyone access's it from the
web to it's IP.
 The manager has expresed some interest in other methods but it will be
hard to move him away from what there is now after he gets back in a week
from a business trip. I would like to present a proposal on a new management
system. My problem is that I have only worked in Openview before. I think
Openview is awesome and gives you all the features you need and more. For
this site though, I think it would be too much. I just don't think it's
really needed for the size of this network and the management/configuration
of it would overseed the network management itself.
 Basically, I'm asking what you guru's out there think I should present
to use. Should it be CiscoWorks2000, Openview, or stay with What's Up Gold?
I really appreciate the help and thanks for putting up with the long post.
Thanks all,

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Re: Can I use old CCNP books for CCNP 2.0 ?

2001-01-31 Thread netlinesys

Hello there,

I think BCRAN and CIT are ok .
for BCSN you need to have the knowledge of ACRC ( check the exam outlines to
know what to read  from this book )   you need know BGP .
for BCMSN you need to have the knowledge of CLSC ( check the exam outlines
to know what to read  from this book  )  multicasting .
but the best think is to get the book which are relevant to the exam I will
say.

I hope that will help

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 And what other topics do I need to study in addition
 to that?

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Re: 3600 Flash

2001-01-31 Thread Pawel Sikora

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Supino" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CCNA" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:38 PM
Subject: RE: 3600 Flash


 CCNA,
 
 You will need to replace the image on the flash chips via console cable
 (Xmodem) after you insert the new flash chips. This is the only way to do it
 on a 3600. I believe on a 2600 you have TFTP download available from Rommon
 mode.
 
... 
 What should I do to make it work ?? I have a 3640 router also.Can it be of
 my help in any way ? How can I insert the new flash of 16MB in 3640
 which has 8 MB SIMM and copy the IOS in it and place it back to 3620  ??
 Partition like thing ..
 Please giude me.

Yes, this should work except of necessary partitioning and flashing again
old software of 3640 into old partition.

Without 3640 you can do it as follows:
 Install old 2x8 fsimms and boot old software
 Partiton flash into 2 equal size partitions  (8MB each)
 Flash any old software less than 8Mbit into one partition
 Install mix of old and new fsimms (total of 24M flash should appear)
 Partition once again into 2 or 3 partitions of 8MBs 
 Flash partition beginning at new fsimm boundary
 Install both new fsimms
 Finally partition and flash as desired.

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RE: 801 to the Internet

2001-01-31 Thread Ricardo Ciganda

Hi!

You must put your global address on your BRI or dialer interface.

Ricardo Ciganda
CCNA, CCDA, Security

Systems Engineer and Network Consultant
BYTEMASTER, S.A.
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Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: 801 to the Internet


Hi,

I would like to connect to the Internet using my 801 router. Is there a
way
to accomplish this without having a fixed IP-address. I mean just as a
normal
PC connecting to the internet.

Regards,

Tarry

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CCNP 1.0 books are enough for CCNP 2.0

2001-01-31 Thread Alec Smiths

Hi list,

I have a CCNP 1.0 set from Cisco Press including 4
books. Can someonetell me what additional topics do I
need to study ? Or is it necessary to buy CCNP 2.0 set


Thanks in advance,

Alec,

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Re: CPU usage question

2001-01-31 Thread John Neiberger


On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 20:52:53 -0500, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:

  John Neiberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] correctly observed,
  
  
  
  The answer is most definitely D, show processes.  That must be a typo.
  
 I got the following question from COLT, but I'm not sure whether
it's
 answer is correct...
   
 Which Cisco IOS command identifies the router CPU usage in your
network
 prototype or pilot?
   
 A)? trace
 B)? show buffers
 C)? show interface
 D)? show processes
   
 My answer is D but COLT said it should be C.? Any help would be
greatly
 appreciated.
   
 Regards,
 Hunt Lee
 IP Solution Analyst
 Cable and Wireless (Sydney)

  
  The thing that has me beating my head against the wall is that I'm 
  tempted to rephrase the question "what DIFFERENT Cisco IOS command 
  identifies the router CPU usage in your production (not pilot or 
  prototype) network."
  
  There is no different command. Ijjits.
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That command would be "show processes cpu for-real-this-time"





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Re: OK. I feel dumb but asking anyway

2001-01-31 Thread Raul F. Fernandez-IGLOU

Natasha,

I love that name...anyway here is the definition:
Throttle - Number of times the receiver on the port was disabled, possibly
due to buffer or processor overload.

Take care,

Raul

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 When doing a (show int) on a 2500 part of the output says "shinterface"
 I hope that's show interface!
 Would hate to see what a "shinterface" looks like. lol
 It also says something about runts, giants, and throttles. What the heck
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Re: PRI woes...switch vs. switch

2001-01-31 Thread Dan West

No nfas here...just plain 'ole PRI signaling. We busy
out a PRI, then dial and watch calls hit the next PRI
for testing purposes. Actually, we ended up finding
out that 5ess switches running national/standard
software by default do not offer the "maintenance"
state for b-channels( only "in-service" and
"out-of-service"). 

--- Eric Lofvenborg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all. I lurked on this list for a while last year,
 and decided come back 
 and visit.
 
 On a cert note, I have passed CCNA and BCRAN,
 Switching will be next week 
 ... Damn VLAN's .. :-)
 
 As for your flapping D channel:
 
 Are you using NFAS ?? And why would you take down B
 channels from the router 
 ? We usually use state 2 (busy)on NFAS from just
 about any switchtype on the 
 planet, and everyhting works fine (for testing
 disco's prior to sending out 
 orders). I would be curious to see how your SerXX:23
 are set up, and what 
 IOS u r using.
 
 Eric
 
 
 From: Dan West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Dan West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PRI woes...switch vs. switch
 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:16:53 -0800 (PST)
 
 Hi All,
 
 Using AS5800 dual DS3 with software channelized DS1
 controllers.
 
 The "isdn service" command to put the PRIs
 b-channels
 in "maintenance" state causes some of our circuits
 to
 lose D-channel as well... :
 
 Cisco techs claim that telco switches don't like
 being
 told what the state of their own lines are...now
 why
 that would cause d channel flap who knows.
 
 Anybody else out there seen this? Depends on the
 switch 5e or DMS-500 too.
 
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Re: DLSW+ question

2001-01-31 Thread John Neiberger

At first glance, I see that your loopback interfaces are in the same subnet.
If you were on RouterA and tried to ping 10.1.1.2, it should fail because it
thinks it is local.  Try placing them on different subnets and see if that
works.

Hmmm...I just noticed the redistribute connected in your eigrp config.  Is
that passing the loopback IP address as a host route?  If so, I suppose that
might work, but I don't know...I've never tried it.

Okay, I'm going to get some more coffee and read through all the other
responses you get.  :-)

John

  
  I am trying to setup two routers with DLSW+ , when I do with routing ,I
can'=
  t=20
  ping each other loopback interfaces for some reason.=20
  
  
  Hostname DCE_Router
  dlsw local-peer peer-id 10.1.1.1
  dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 10.1.1.2
  dlsw bridge-group 1
  
  Loopback0
  =A0 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  
  interface Ethernet0
  ip address 150.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  bridge-group 1
  
  interface Serial0
  ip address 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0
  encapsulation ppp
  clockrate 64000
  
  
  bridge 1 protocol ieee
  
  router eigrp 100
  network 10.0.0.0
  redistribute connected
  
  ___
  
  Hostname DTE_Router
  dlsw local-peer peer-id 10.1.1.2
  dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 10.1.1.1
  dlsw bridge-group 1
  
  Loopback0
  =A0 ip address 10.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
  
  interface Ethernet0
  ip address 160.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
  bridge-group 1
  
  interface Serial0
  ip address 10.1.2.2 255.255.255.0
  encapsulation ppp
  
  
  bridge 1 protocol ieee
  
  
  
  router eigrp 100
  network 10.0.0.0
  redistribute connected
  
  
  
  
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Juniper Core Routers

2001-01-31 Thread RLohiya

Hi Guys, slightly off topic,

I need information on Juniper Core Routers.

Any web links would be appreciated.

Thanx

Rashid


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RE: 801 to the Internet

2001-01-31 Thread Brian Dennis

You could have your router get its IP address from your ISP dynamically (see
partial config below). The key is the "ip address negotiated" command. This
command is in the IP Plus feature set.

Brian Dennis
CCIE #2210 (RS)(ISP/Dial)
CCSI #98640

!
ip nat inside source list 1 interface BRI0 overload
isdn switch-type basic-5ess
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0
 ip nat inside
!
interface BRI0
 ip address negotiated
 ip nat outside
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer string 5551212
 dialer-group 1
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap callin
 ppp chap hostname MyISPUsername
 ppp chap password MyISPPassowrd
!
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 BRI0 permanent
access-list 1 permit any
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
!

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Subject: RE: 801 to the Internet


Hi!

You must put your global address on your BRI or dialer interface.

Ricardo Ciganda
CCNA, CCDA, Security

Systems Engineer and Network Consultant
BYTEMASTER, S.A.
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Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: 801 to the Internet


Hi,

I would like to connect to the Internet using my 801 router. Is there a
way
to accomplish this without having a fixed IP-address. I mean just as a
normal
PC connecting to the internet.

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RE: Lowering of standards on CCNP 2.0?

2001-01-31 Thread Kathy Mihalisko

Geoffrey, I disagree somewhat. For me what's valuable is the
learning/knowledge acquisition process. Too many folks come to see an exam
or a cert as the be-all end-all. Which is understandable, because everyone
wants a reward for all their hard work. But it's more satisfying in an
enduring kind of way to take stock of everything you made yourself learn
that you did not know before, and otherwise might not make the time to
learn. Before BSCN I didn't know jack about BGP, but now I'm better informed
and that in itself is a good thing.

Second, the availability  quality of study materials for CCNP v2 are
improved over the situation that existed for v1. That helps a lot. In
addition, it seems Cisco aimed to bring the scope of v2 questions more in
line with its official course content. That, too, helps, and I think is a
welcome development. My first exam was the old CLSC--I had 2 obscure
questions on Cat 3xxx hardware that I could not, later, find the answers to
in any published Cisco documentation. What was the point of asking such
questions?

Third, I don't think a Cisco cert will be as devalued as the perfectly
worthless MCSE cert anytime soon. I've been teaching MCSE classes for a
number of years and sometimes hear from students: "Why did you spend so much
time on the subnetting stuff, it was not on the TCP/IP exam!" Or, "I don't
have time to come to class, just tell me where I can find the Transcenders."
etc. etc. Many hiring managers are aware of this devaluation, which was
brought about by Microsoft putting Marketing above everything else. If Cisco
starts to go down that road, then we can be concerned, but not to worry yet!

Kathy "Katyusha" M.
CCNP Security


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Subject: Re: Lowering of standards on CCNP 2.0?


Listmembers,

I wrote the BSCN on Monday, and I must say that I was
underwhelmed.  I read Halabi and Moy's book on OSPF a
year or so ago so they weren't exactly top of mind,
and used the BSCN guide.  Even using this guide almost
exclusively I scored well over 900 with ten days
study.

I hope that I just got an easy batch of questions from
the pool.  It doesn't bode well for the value of this
certification if the bar is significantly lowered.  I
hope that they put the pass up to 790 as they did with
the ACRC.  Even at this level, it would still be a
relatively easy exam.

Does anybody else feel the same way?  I don't want to
see the value of this certification which so many of
us are spending a considerable amount of money and
time on plummet because of a relaxing of standards.

There are several fundamental issues here.

First, contrary to popular belief, it isn't in Cisco's interest to
keep the pool of certified people small -- AS LONG AS the pools at
each level can do the job.

 From Cisco's principal perspective, the first purpose of the
certification program is to facilitate Cisco's outsourcing of support
to resellers.  Yes, they certifications do have other benefits, but
that is Cisco's principal corporate goal.

I honestly don't know if someone in Cisco is doing something as
rational as saying what tasks should a BSCN certificated person be
able to do, as opposed to what general knowledge such a person to
have.

But if they have, it may not be inconsistent to lower standards if
they feel the standards are getting in the way of sales and support.


If so, perhaps we could write individually or as a
group to Cisco to recommend a reevaluation of their
passing grades/exam development.  If I am way out in
left field on this, my apologies to the list for
lowering the s/n ratio:P

Best regards,

Geoffrey Zinderdine
CCNA MCP2K CCA BLAH BLAH BLAH

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Re: SMNP Question

2001-01-31 Thread John Neiberger

SNMP, Simple Network Management Protocol, is exactly that.  Think of it as a
tool set that allows you to get information about traffic, protocol
statistics, errors, etc., from network devices.

To be managed using SNMP, a device must have a SNMP agent running on it. 
This agent gathers information about the device and places it into a
database called a MIB, or management information base.  An SNMP manager,
usually another device running SNMP, can query that database to get specific
information.

Just about any aspect of the device can be stored in the MIB.  For instance,
on a Cisco router you could get traffic statistics, the routing table, the
IOS version, the type of router, the amount of free memory, ethernet
statistics and errors, CDP neighbors, etc.  You name it, you can probably
find it.

Every device has its own MIB, so for a manager to be able to query that
device and produce intelligible results, the manager must also have a copy
of the MIB loaded.  As an example, our network management station has MIBs
loaded for a few cisco routers, some cisco switches, bay switches, NT
servers, Novell servers, and a few others.

Another reason this is important is that an SNMP managed device can send
unsolicited information, called a "trap", to the designated manager.  For
the manager to interpret this trap, it must have the appropriate MIB loaded.
These traps can signify any number of events, notably interface state
changes, loss of network connectivity, etc.

That's the simple explanation.  If you need more info, start searching the
web and you should be able to find out more details.

HTH,
John

   I have my CCNA and I have 1 year and a half experiencebut I
  don't know what SNMP means.. I only knows from what I heard. I heard that
it
  is a checking type protocol.   I am not sure and I would appreciate if
  someone can push me into the right direction or even explain it to me?? 
I
  would greatly appreciate it.
  
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RE: redundancy

2001-01-31 Thread Fowler, Joey

I'll add my two cents,

NT does not support Etherchannel by default, however if you are running a
high-end machine, (IE Compaq Prolinea) Compaq usually has an option to match
the cards up for trunking or failover.

Joey

-Original Message-
From: Tony van Ree [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 9:45 PM
To: Jim Bond; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: redundancy


Hi,

Where is your most likely point of failure or is bandwidth the issue.  WIll
etherchannel work to the 2NICs.  I don't know that the NT server will
understand Etherchannel.

In a study I did recently I found in a network that all the user areas went
to a "main core switch".  The servers had two NIC's each going to a separate
switch.  The "backup core switch" plugged into the main switch.  There was
still a single point of failure to the users "the main core switch".  Should
the "main core switch" fail there would be no network.  The redundancy only
covered the NIC's in this case nor did the second NIC provide any load
sharing.

Just some thoughts.

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 at 04:17:54 PM, Jim Bond wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I've got an important NT server and would like to use
 redundancy. I've got 2 6509 switches available. What's
 the common way to do? Should I put 2 NICs in the
 server and enable fast-ether channel? Or should I
 seperate those 2 NICs on 2 6509? 
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 
 Jim
 
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IPSec help

2001-01-31 Thread Ricky Gomez

Hey all, I'm trying to implement IPsec in my existing network but we are
using NAT. In order for the Encapsulating Secure Payload (ESP) and
Authentication Header (AH) protocol to exit out my network the packet cannot
be modified, in which it is being modified due to Network Address
Translation (NAT), so the connection is terminated.

Does anyone know what appliance I need to invest in, in order to make this
work?

Ricky Gomez
LAN/WAN ENGINEER
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RE: DR Election

2001-01-31 Thread Fowler, Joey

There are three main types on environments (I hope) 

Broadcast
Point-to-Point
NBMA (Non-Broadcast Multi-Access)

Point to Point would not be a multi-access segment. The other two would. An
Example of Broadcast is Ethernet, while an example of NBMA would be
Frame-Relay. Following this logic ' DR and BDR concepts ' would not have to
be broadcast, only multi-access. Point to point creates an adjacency instead
of using DR's and BDR's.

I hope the diagram below turns out, but the first one is point to point, so
information is exchanged directly, however in a multi-access environment
both other routers only exchange information with the DR so as not to have
to have an adjacency with every single router.

X---X

  O
X-|
  O

If OSPF worked that way and you had 10 routers connected via Ethernet, each
would each have to exchange information with the other 9. That would create
45 adjacency's. Way to much traffic would have to exchanged. With those same
10 Routers using OSPF DR and BDR concepts, you could have 1 Router with 10
"Adjacency's" total. Much less routing traffic. I hope I haven't muddled
things to much.

Joey

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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 2:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DR Election




Hi ,

From the OSPF Design Guide - Sam Halabi

' DR and BDR concepts are per multiaccess segment '

My question is what type of segments are considered  as "multiaccess
segment" ?

Ethernet , FR with Point-to-Multipoint with broadcast option enabled , any
others??

What does he mean by 'per multiaccess segment ' ?

thanks


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RE: Ethernet switching

2001-01-31 Thread Fowler, Joey

Depends on the subnet mask you are using, for instance

142.102.3.1 with a subnet mask of 255.255.0.0
142.102.2.1 also with a subnet of 255.255.0.0

The 2.1 and 3.1 would be on the same subnet, however if you have a different
subnet mask I don't think it would work.

Joey

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From: alexs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 7:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ethernet switching


Hello everyone,

I have a question that probably will sound silly but here it is:
Suppose that you take a new 2924 out of the box and you plug in two PC's.
You assign address, for example, 142.102.2.1 to the first one and
142.102.3.1 to the second one.There is not any router in this small
network.142.102.2.1 tries to ping 142.102.3.1.The question is: will
142.102.2.1 get a reply and why?
Thanks
alexs


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EIGRP Metrics

2001-01-31 Thread Richard Wilson

Hi

No matter what I do, I can't seem to get the EIGRP
metrics to add up.  We all know they consist of Delay,
Bandwidth, Load and Reliability.  If K1 and K3 = 1 and
the rest 0, then the formula boils down to
(10**7/BW+delay)*256.  

I'm looking at an example in the certificationzone
white paper which shows a bandwidth of 384 kbit and a
total delay of 40100 microseconds.  No matter what I
do, I can't come up with the reported metric of
7693056.  

What am I missing?

Richard


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RE: redundancy

2001-01-31 Thread Mark Krysinski

Look to the specifications of the network card.  Adaptec has had a four port
10/100 network card (since before the gig cards came out).  The Adaptec card
allow you to aggregate the bandwidth across 12 ports (1.2mbps full duplex)
or you can do a combination of port aggregation / fail over.  I.E. use two
ports for combined bandwidth to one switch, two to the other and use one to
either load balance or fail over.  The down side is that you have to have as
many ports available on your switch(s) as you have ports in the server.

Good luck,

Mark Krysinski
CTO

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Tony van Ree
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 9:45 PM
To: Jim Bond; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: redundancy


Hi,

Where is your most likely point of failure or is bandwidth the issue.  WIll
etherchannel work to the 2NICs.  I don't know that the NT server will
understand Etherchannel.

In a study I did recently I found in a network that all the user areas went
to a "main core switch".  The servers had two NIC's each going to a separate
switch.  The "backup core switch" plugged into the main switch.  There was
still a single point of failure to the users "the main core switch".  Should
the "main core switch" fail there would be no network.  The redundancy only
covered the NIC's in this case nor did the second NIC provide any load
sharing.

Just some thoughts.

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 at 04:17:54 PM, Jim Bond wrote:

 Hello,

 I've got an important NT server and would like to use
 redundancy. I've got 2 6509 switches available. What's
 the common way to do? Should I put 2 NICs in the
 server and enable fast-ether channel? Or should I
 seperate those 2 NICs on 2 6509?

 Thanks in advance.


 Jim

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RE: IPSec help

2001-01-31 Thread mjans001

What you could use is a separate OR double tunnel, for example (some extra
public IP's)

network private

nat (here) to public ip (behind FW=DMZ)

vpn FW ipsec(here) source

 internet

vpn FW ipsec dest

nat (here) from public ip to private ip (behind FW=DMZ)

network private

This chapter shines a in-dept light on the topic, and also explains a
pass-trough vpn scenario.

http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/win2000/win2ksrv/reskit/intch09.asp



Cheers,

Martijn

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-

Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Ricky

Gomez

Verzonden: woensdag 31 januari 2001 16:43

Aan: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Onderwerp: IPSec help



Hey all, I'm trying to implement IPsec in my existing network but we are

using NAT. In order for the Encapsulating Secure Payload (ESP) and

Authentication Header (AH) protocol to exit out my network the packet cannot

be modified, in which it is being modified due to Network Address

Translation (NAT), so the connection is terminated.

Does anyone know what appliance I need to invest in, in order to make this

work?

Ricky Gomez

LAN/WAN ENGINEER

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RE: Ethernet switching

2001-01-31 Thread Sheahan, Ryan

These are my thoughts, 

If the switch was right out of the box, the stations could ping each other
no matter what subnet mask you were using.  The reason being, they are
located in the same broadcast domain, vlan1.  This is the default vlan for
all switched ports at this time.  The first station would arp for the other,
it would get a response because they are on the same layer 2 broadcast
domain and they could speak directly using the switch.  

Switches by default with no mls, are layer two devices.  They have no
concept of IP.  They make decision based on layer 2 MAC addresses and the
ports they are connected to.  If these stations were in different vlans, the
situation would change.  You then have created two broadcast domains and in
order for the devices to talk, a router or mls entry would be needed.  

Someone please correct me if I am wrong.




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From: Fowler, Joey
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 1/31/01 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: Ethernet switching

Depends on the subnet mask you are using, for instance

142.102.3.1 with a subnet mask of 255.255.0.0
142.102.2.1 also with a subnet of 255.255.0.0

The 2.1 and 3.1 would be on the same subnet, however if you have a
different
subnet mask I don't think it would work.

Joey

-Original Message-
From: alexs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 7:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ethernet switching


Hello everyone,

I have a question that probably will sound silly but here it is:
Suppose that you take a new 2924 out of the box and you plug in two
PC's.
You assign address, for example, 142.102.2.1 to the first one and
142.102.3.1 to the second one.There is not any router in this small
network.142.102.2.1 tries to ping 142.102.3.1.The question is: will
142.102.2.1 get a reply and why?
Thanks
alexs


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Re: DLSW+ question

2001-01-31 Thread Frank Wells

I was thinking about CRB and writing about IRB, what a knucklehead!

Good point about DLSW not performing local translation Flem.

From: Flem [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DLSW+ question
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 03:54:07 -0800 (PST)

Well , I do not agree on this .

--- Groupstudy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  IRB is used to perform a limited form of Ethernet to
  Token Ring
  routing/bridging.

This is not the main objective of IRB .
Moreover IRB does not support frames with RIF . Thus
IRB is of limited help in these kind of applications .

  It was somewhat useful prior to
  Ciscos implementation of
  Source-Route Translational bridging which has a much
  richer feature set and
  capability.

Translational bridging and IRB are totally different
things .

  DLSW performs Ethernet to Token-Ring
  translation automatically

Be aware that Dlsw does *not* support local ethernet
to token-ring translation .

  and although possible, it is very unlikely you would
  need to have both IRB
  and DLSW configured on the same router.
 
  Anyway, to answer the original post, your configs
  look OK but we really need
  more info to
  troubleshoot.  My immediate thoughts is whether DLSW
  can operate over PPP
  encapsulation.
 

Dlsw is supported over ppp .
It does not care about the link layer protocol .

 I would try HDLC and see if that
  helps.  If you have an
  access list on either serial port, make sure it
  opens up the correct tcp
  ports to allow DLSW to traverse the wire.  The
  easiest way is just to
  temporarily remove the access list and see how you
  fare.  I believe the
  correct ports are 2065, 1981, 1982 and 1983.

In this case 2065 will do . The others are used when
priorization is configured .

  Make
  sure loopback interfaces
  are also in the same routing domain as your peer
  statements, looks like they
  are but...
 

The the peers are not in a "connect" state.
Fix your routing so that you can do an extended ping
between the Dlsw peers .Fix this and Dlsw and Dlsw
will work . Take a look at your routing tables



flem

 
  - Original Message -
  From: Richard Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:55 AM
  Subject: Re: DLSW+ question
 
 
   You are currently on the ethernet interface, try
  adding the following
  command
   on both routers:
  
   bridge irb
   brigde 1 route ip
  
   Rich
  
   On Jan 30,  6:48pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] chatted about:
Subject:DLSW+ question
   
I am trying to setup two routers with DLSW+ ,
  when I do with routing ,I
  can'=
t=20
ping each other loopback interfaces for some
  reason.=20
   
   
Hostname DCE_Router
dlsw local-peer peer-id 10.1.1.1
dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 10.1.1.2
dlsw bridge-group 1
   
Loopback0
=A0 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
   
interface Ethernet0
ip address 150.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
bridge-group 1
   
interface Serial0
ip address 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0
encapsulation ppp
clockrate 64000
   
   
bridge 1 protocol ieee
   
router eigrp 100
network 10.0.0.0
redistribute connected
   
___
   
Hostname DTE_Router
dlsw local-peer peer-id 10.1.1.2
dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 10.1.1.1
dlsw bridge-group 1
   
Loopback0
=A0 ip address 10.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
   
interface Ethernet0
ip address 160.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
bridge-group 1
   
interface Serial0
ip address 10.1.2.2 255.255.255.0
encapsulation ppp
   
   
bridge 1 protocol ieee
   
   
   
router eigrp 100
network 10.0.0.0
redistribute connected
   
   
   
   
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Hello,
can someone tell me if the 2948G-L3 supports M-HSRP or only HSRP ?

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OSPF and secondary adresses

2001-01-31 Thread Schimek, Hans

Hi!

We tried to bring up a Dial-Router using OSPF in area 0 - as this device
isn`t capable of large routing tables we decided
to switch it to a seperate area -
but as we do not have multiple physical interfaces we tried to configure
secondary address using a switch on a FastEth-PortAdapter
on a Cisco 7500. - those secondary adresses we configured to that area.
the problem in here is , that we DO NOT get connectivity between those
devices.

does anyone have an idea ?


thx in advance


hans
 


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RE: cd burner

2001-01-31 Thread Denis A. Baldwin

As low priced as they are, the Lite-On CD Burners and Smart and Friendly
brands have been good to me as well.  I've done just over 1000 CDs on each
without a single coaster.  If I had the money though, I'd get one of those
12x Plextors. Fast, good quality and last forever.

Denis


Denis A. Baldwin - Network Administrator
A+ / Network + / I-Net+ / MCP


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hao vu
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 6:41 PM
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Subject: cd burner


TDK and Plextor burners have good review.
HTH

HV

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Guys,
I am trying get a CD burner, but am not very familiar with which ones
are good and which ones gives a lot of problems.  Could someone make their
personal recommendations as to which one might be a good one to get right.
If not could you direct me to a website that will give me some valuable
comparisons and reviews.  Thanks


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ALIAS Commands

2001-01-31 Thread John Neiberger

I just discovered this very cool command, but I'm only familiar with one
option.  My favorite so far is this: "alias exec log show log | include". 
Then when I type "log whatever", it will show all log entries that
match...pretty cool.

But my question is about the alias command itself.  If you type "alias ?"
there are a *bunch* of options and I have no idea what these might do for
me.  

Do any of you have any other creative uses of this command?

John





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Re: OSPF and secondary adresses

2001-01-31 Thread Curtis Call

I'm not 100% certain that I understand what you are trying to do here but 
I'm pretty sure that your problem is that OSPF doesn't form adjacencies 
over secondary addresses.  This is coming from Doyle's Routing TCP/IP book 
page 526:

"1. OSPF will advertise a secondary network or subnet only if it is also 
running on the primary network or subnet.
2. OSPF sees secondary networks as stub networks (networks on which there 
are no OSPF neighbors) and therefore will not send Hellos on 
them.  Consequently, no adjacencies can be established on secondary networks."

That answer your question?

At 05:25 PM 1/31/01 +0100, you wrote:
Hi!

We tried to bring up a Dial-Router using OSPF in area 0 - as this device
isn`t capable of large routing tables we decided
to switch it to a seperate area -
but as we do not have multiple physical interfaces we tried to configure
secondary address using a switch on a FastEth-PortAdapter
on a Cisco 7500. - those secondary adresses we configured to that area.
the problem in here is , that we DO NOT get connectivity between those
devices.

does anyone have an idea ?


thx in advance


hans



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RE: IPSec help

2001-01-31 Thread Christopher Larson

This should not be a problem on your side when using ESP. With ESP your
traffic is encapsulated, w/o modifying the original packet, and the firewall
forwards to your peer, where the outer packet is stripped revealing the
original data.

 It is the peer that will have a problem as the address you come from will
change as the nat translation changes. The fix for this in the Cisco PIX
environment is to run Dynamic IPSEC lists w/ wild card authentication keys,
or if you are using the host based client software, run IKE mode config on
the side that is recieving data from a NAT'ed peer.

We run multiple IPSEC ESP tunnels to several peers using NAT. We also accept
several tunnels from dial up clients (whose address constantly changes due
to DHCP) using the IKE mode config or wildcard keys and dynamic lists.
AH is a different animal altogether and it does in fact change (or add) to
the datagram. I avoid AH when possible in production environments, so I
cannot comment on it.


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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 10:43 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: IPSec help


Hey all, I'm trying to implement IPsec in my existing network but we are
using NAT. In order for the Encapsulating Secure Payload (ESP) and
Authentication Header (AH) protocol to exit out my network the packet cannot
be modified, in which it is being modified due to Network Address
Translation (NAT), so the connection is terminated.

Does anyone know what appliance I need to invest in, in order to make this
work?

Ricky Gomez
LAN/WAN ENGINEER
Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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Re: Juniper Core Routers

2001-01-31 Thread John Starta

http://www.juniper.net/products/ is a good starting point.

jas

At 03:13 PM 1/31/01 +, RLohiya wrote:
Hi Guys, slightly off topic,

I need information on Juniper Core Routers.

Any web links would be appreciated.

Thanx

Rashid

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BGP Inconsistent AS

2001-01-31 Thread John Neiberger

I'm trying to figure out how some of this works in the real world, so I'll
provide a real example to start with.  I just now did this on our router
that is multihomed to Sprint and Verio:

OurRouter#sho ip bgp 192.146.214.0
BGP routing table entry for 192.146.214.0/24, version 1230975 
Paths: (4 available, best #3, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) 
  Not advertised to any peer  
  1239 568 721
160.81.116.1 from 160.81.116.1 (144.228.242.88)   
  Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external  
  2914
199.239.118.185 from 199.239.118.185 (129.250.53.129) 
  Origin IGP, metric 100, localpref 100, valid, external, best
  Community: 190972314

The way I see this, both AS2914 (Verio) and AS721 are claiming to originate
this route.  The fact that both origin codes are IGP adds to my confusion. 
Wouldn't that mean that both are explicitly advertising this prefix,
probably via a network statement?

My first thought was that Verio was advertising an aggregate, but that is
not the case.  This is a specific /24 with no aggregation.

In my limited experience I just can't see how this sort of thing would
happen, unless it was an accident.

Hmm... maybe AS721 is connected to Verio but not running BGP with them.  If
they are using Verio-assigned addresses, then Verio might be playing nice by
advertising the /24 and not aggregating it, allowing return traffic to that
prefix via both paths.  Then, if AS721 decided to run BGP with AS568 only,
this would explain the inconsistent origin AS.

Am I on the right track?

Thanks,
John





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RE: IPSec help

2001-01-31 Thread Mark Krysinski

Can you better describe the environment that you are using.  Are you using
hardware or software to implement IPSec?

Thank you,

Mark Krysinski

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Christopher Larson
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:01 PM
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Subject: RE: IPSec help


This should not be a problem on your side when using ESP. With ESP your
traffic is encapsulated, w/o modifying the original packet, and the firewall
forwards to your peer, where the outer packet is stripped revealing the
original data.

 It is the peer that will have a problem as the address you come from will
change as the nat translation changes. The fix for this in the Cisco PIX
environment is to run Dynamic IPSEC lists w/ wild card authentication keys,
or if you are using the host based client software, run IKE mode config on
the side that is recieving data from a NAT'ed peer.

We run multiple IPSEC ESP tunnels to several peers using NAT. We also accept
several tunnels from dial up clients (whose address constantly changes due
to DHCP) using the IKE mode config or wildcard keys and dynamic lists.
AH is a different animal altogether and it does in fact change (or add) to
the datagram. I avoid AH when possible in production environments, so I
cannot comment on it.


-Original Message-
From: Ricky Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 10:43 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: IPSec help


Hey all, I'm trying to implement IPsec in my existing network but we are
using NAT. In order for the Encapsulating Secure Payload (ESP) and
Authentication Header (AH) protocol to exit out my network the packet cannot
be modified, in which it is being modified due to Network Address
Translation (NAT), so the connection is terminated.

Does anyone know what appliance I need to invest in, in order to make this
work?

Ricky Gomez
LAN/WAN ENGINEER
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Re: Waants to Sell CCPREP.com password

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Re: ALIAS Commands

2001-01-31 Thread Nnanna Obuba

Try these:

alias exec ct conf t
alias exec i show ip route
alias exec sib show ip int brief
alias exec sr show run
alias exec dr debug ip routing
alias exec u und all
alias exec cb clear int bri 0/0
alias exec si show isdn status
alias exec sa show ip accounting
alias exec sf show frame-relay pvc




--- John Neiberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Then when I type "log whatever", it will show all log entries that
 match...pretty cool.
 
 But my question is about the alias command itself.  If you type
 "alias ?"
 there are a *bunch* of options and I have no idea what these might do
 for
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Re: Can I use old CCNP books for CCNP 2.0 ?

2001-01-31 Thread Traceroute

I would think they would be valuable for the basics but check the objectives
for the new exams and get the proper materials for those new objectives not
covered in 1.0. This method could save you some $...
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 Hi all,

 I found a CCNP set of Cisco Press ACRC, BCRAN, CLSC,
 CIT books. Can I use those books for new CCNP exams ?
 And what other topics do I need to study in addition
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Re: CCNP and CCNA 2.0 study material available for trade

2001-01-31 Thread Traceroute

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Lab Equipment

2001-01-31 Thread John Diaz

Those interested, I've placed the following equipment on e-bay:

* WS-X5166 - ATM DS3 Module for CAT 5K switch
* WS-X5101 - FDDI MMF Module for CAT5K switch
* WS-X5203 - 10/100 with FastEthernet 12 Port  CAT5K Switch Module


* NEWBRIDGE ATM Switch ( easier to use than Cisco's 1010, cheaper and
performs the same functions)
1- Total of 12 ATM ports
2- Local Managemnt port
3- Serial Port

* 3Com SuperStack II- with Access Builder software. (I used this fully
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RE: DR Election

2001-01-31 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

There are three main types on environments (I hope)

Correct, but also let me add:

Demand circuit



Broadcast
Point-to-Point
NBMA (Non-Broadcast Multi-Access)

Point to Point would not be a multi-access segment. The other two would. An
Example of Broadcast is Ethernet, while an example of NBMA would be
Frame-Relay. Following this logic ' DR and BDR concepts ' would not have to
be broadcast, only multi-access. Point to point creates an adjacency instead
of using DR's and BDR's.

I hope the diagram below turns out, but the first one is point to point, so
information is exchanged directly, however in a multi-access environment
both other routers only exchange information with the DR so as not to have
to have an adjacency with every single router.

X---X

   O
X-|
   O

If OSPF worked that way and you had 10 routers connected via Ethernet, each
would each have to exchange information with the other 9. That would create
45 adjacency's. Way to much traffic would have to exchanged. With those same
10 Routers using OSPF DR and BDR concepts, you could have 1 Router with 10
"Adjacency's" total. Much less routing traffic. I hope I haven't muddled
things to much.

Joey

-Original Message-
From: pinoal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 2:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DR Election




Hi ,

From the OSPF Design Guide - Sam Halabi

' DR and BDR concepts are per multiaccess segment '

My question is what type of segments are considered  as "multiaccess
segment" ?

Ethernet , FR with Point-to-Multipoint with broadcast option enabled , any
others??

What does he mean by 'per multiaccess segment ' ?

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RE: DR Election

2001-01-31 Thread Brian Lodwick

Joey,
I am really glad this message is out there, because I was going to write one 
confirming my findings with the group. I believe on one part you are wrong 
in your explaination. I have read and read and the big question is:

What the heck is the difference between NMBA and point-to-multipoint?

You said there are 3 network types well, actually there are 4 types.
point-to-point
point-to-multipoint
broadcast
NBMA

So what is the difference? I conclude the difference is how you want 
adjacencies created.
As you noted Ethernet is a good example of Broadcast. ~I agree
You note a good example of NMBA is Frame-Relay. ~I don't fully agree 
Frame-relay could be a point-to-point connection, but never a Broadcast 
(same with ATM, and X.25)since it is not possible to broadcast on these link 
technologies.
Point-to-point is fairly easy to figure out. Two routers connected only to 
each other.
Point-to-multipoint is a router with more than one connection off of an 
interface. This is also the definition of a NBMA, the difference is in 
point-to-multipoint treats each link as a point-to-point link and no DR/BDR 
is elected and adjacencies are created just like point-to-point links. On a 
NBMA network DR/BDR is elected and when routing information is sent to and 
from the DR/BDR with unicast packets.
I conclude the difference is administratively decided and should be based 
upon the way you want adjacencies built, and if you would benefit by this 
decrease in overhead.

Brian

From: "Fowler, Joey" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Fowler, Joey" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DR Election
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:44:40 -0500

There are three main types on environments (I hope)

Broadcast
Point-to-Point
NBMA (Non-Broadcast Multi-Access)

Point to Point would not be a multi-access segment. The other two would. An
Example of Broadcast is Ethernet, while an example of NBMA would be
Frame-Relay. Following this logic ' DR and BDR concepts ' would not have to
be broadcast, only multi-access. Point to point creates an adjacency 
instead
of using DR's and BDR's.

I hope the diagram below turns out, but the first one is point to point, so
information is exchanged directly, however in a multi-access environment
both other routers only exchange information with the DR so as not to have
to have an adjacency with every single router.

X---X

   O
X-|
   O

If OSPF worked that way and you had 10 routers connected via Ethernet, each
would each have to exchange information with the other 9. That would create
45 adjacency's. Way to much traffic would have to exchanged. With those 
same
10 Routers using OSPF DR and BDR concepts, you could have 1 Router with 10
"Adjacency's" total. Much less routing traffic. I hope I haven't muddled
things to much.

Joey

-Original Message-
From: pinoal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 2:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DR Election




Hi ,

From the OSPF Design Guide - Sam Halabi

' DR and BDR concepts are per multiaccess segment '

My question is what type of segments are considered  as "multiaccess
segment" ?

Ethernet , FR with Point-to-Multipoint with broadcast option enabled , any
others??

What does he mean by 'per multiaccess segment ' ?

thanks


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BSCN--

2001-01-31 Thread Moahzam Durrani

Just wrote the BCMSN exam. It was easy and straight froward. I was
disapointed as questions were more based on cramming rather then
thinking.There were few questions but very basic on Spanningtree , and
multilayer switching and trunking...wich is the heart of switchin. I wish
the exam had more scenario based questions were i could test my knowledge of
switching. If you studied the colts and bosson .. then the exam is easy. I
just think they should make the exam a bit more challenging.Hopefully the
next exam BSCN is abit more tougher . I just dont this certification to end
up like MCSE... 

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No Subject

2001-01-31 Thread Okuwa, Daley


hi guys and ladies,

I am looking for a Cisco SNMP MIB object for router cpu and is there any one
who can tell me or any site

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RE: cd burner

2001-01-31 Thread Dan West

Good to know and all, but I think it would have been
more appropriate posted s_o_m_e_w_h_e_r_e  e_l_s_e


--- "Denis A. Baldwin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As low priced as they are, the Lite-On CD Burners
 and Smart and Friendly
 brands have been good to me as well.  I've done just
 over 1000 CDs on each
 without a single coaster.  If I had the money
 though, I'd get one of those
 12x Plextors. Fast, good quality and last forever.
 
 Denis
 
 
 Denis A. Baldwin - Network Administrator
 A+ / Network + / I-Net+ / MCP
 
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 hao vu
 Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 6:41 PM
 To: 'Ray Smith'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: cd burner
 
 
 TDK and Plextor burners have good review.
 HTH
 
 HV
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 2:36 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Help
 
 
 Guys,
 I am trying get a CD burner, but am not very
 familiar with which ones
 are good and which ones gives a lot of problems. 
 Could someone make their
 personal recommendations as to which one might be a
 good one to get right.
 If not could you direct me to a website that will
 give me some valuable
 comparisons and reviews.  Thanks
 
 
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Trunking

2001-01-31 Thread JT

Hi Group,

Could someone tell me what IOS do I need in order to turn on trunking on a
cisco 2912XL switch.  I'm currently running 12.0(5.1)XP but it doesn't
understand the "trunk on" command under the fe interfaces.
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RE: DR Election

2001-01-31 Thread Fowler, Joey

I stand corrected, in that Frame-Relay can be more than just a NBMA, which
in turns leads to the difference to whether you need an adjacency or a
DR/BDR. I should have said "By default, a Frame Relay network provides NBMA
connectivity between remote sites" (pg. 119 CiscoPress BSCN). 

Sometimes I tend to throw things out there without double-checking them.
Since I have no one to learn from or to teach here in my current position,
that's what I tend to use groupstudy for. Thanks for the correction to my
post. Now I have to go look up some information on Howard's post about
Demand Circuits...

Joey

-Original Message-
From: Brian Lodwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DR Election


Joey,
I am really glad this message is out there, because I was going to write one

confirming my findings with the group. I believe on one part you are wrong 
in your explaination. I have read and read and the big question is:

What the heck is the difference between NMBA and point-to-multipoint?

You said there are 3 network types well, actually there are 4 types.
point-to-point
point-to-multipoint
broadcast
NBMA

So what is the difference? I conclude the difference is how you want 
adjacencies created.
As you noted Ethernet is a good example of Broadcast. ~I agree
You note a good example of NMBA is Frame-Relay. ~I don't fully agree 
Frame-relay could be a point-to-point connection, but never a Broadcast 
(same with ATM, and X.25)since it is not possible to broadcast on these link

technologies.
Point-to-point is fairly easy to figure out. Two routers connected only to 
each other.
Point-to-multipoint is a router with more than one connection off of an 
interface. This is also the definition of a NBMA, the difference is in 
point-to-multipoint treats each link as a point-to-point link and no DR/BDR 
is elected and adjacencies are created just like point-to-point links. On a 
NBMA network DR/BDR is elected and when routing information is sent to and 
from the DR/BDR with unicast packets.
I conclude the difference is administratively decided and should be based 
upon the way you want adjacencies built, and if you would benefit by this 
decrease in overhead.

Brian

From: "Fowler, Joey" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Fowler, Joey" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DR Election
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:44:40 -0500

There are three main types on environments (I hope)

Broadcast
Point-to-Point
NBMA (Non-Broadcast Multi-Access)

Point to Point would not be a multi-access segment. The other two would. An
Example of Broadcast is Ethernet, while an example of NBMA would be
Frame-Relay. Following this logic ' DR and BDR concepts ' would not have to
be broadcast, only multi-access. Point to point creates an adjacency 
instead
of using DR's and BDR's.

I hope the diagram below turns out, but the first one is point to point, so
information is exchanged directly, however in a multi-access environment
both other routers only exchange information with the DR so as not to have
to have an adjacency with every single router.

X---X

   O
X-|
   O

If OSPF worked that way and you had 10 routers connected via Ethernet, each
would each have to exchange information with the other 9. That would create
45 adjacency's. Way to much traffic would have to exchanged. With those 
same
10 Routers using OSPF DR and BDR concepts, you could have 1 Router with 10
"Adjacency's" total. Much less routing traffic. I hope I haven't muddled
things to much.

Joey

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RE: Cisco Lab Cables

2001-01-31 Thread Mark Rose

Try contacting Robert Lowery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

I believe his prices are:

3ft for 29$ plus 5 shipping...6ft 35 ea...8ft...37$ each

Mark

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Daniel Cotts
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 8:07 PM
To: 'John Neiberger'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cisco Lab Cables


Also www.LoDanWest.com and pacific cable. There are others.

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 From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:20 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Cisco Lab Cables


 www.stonewallcable.com is a good place to get them.  So far,
 I haven't found
 any place that has them cheaper.  If anyone knows of a place,
 please let us
 know.

 
   Where is the best place to purchase cables for back to back
 configurations
   etc for cisco equipment? I am working on building a lab
 and need to start
   hunting these down. Thanks
 
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Re: Trunking

2001-01-31 Thread John Neiberger

On a 2912XL switch, I believe the command is "switchport mode trunk".  At
least that is the command on a 2924XL.

John

  Hi Group,
  
  Could someone tell me what IOS do I need in order to turn on trunking on
a
  cisco 2912XL switch.  I'm currently running 12.0(5.1)XP but it doesn't
  understand the "trunk on" command under the fe interfaces.
  Thanks.
  
  
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Re: Network Management Program (which???)

2001-01-31 Thread Akbar Kara

Check out the product at intermapper.com

This inexpensive product only runs on macOS but does a lot more than
$100K+ solutions available in the market.

Good Luck

ak


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hey Group,
  Need some help on this one. I just came on as a contractor for this company. 
The network is somewhat small. They have around 186 routers worldwide and around 22 
switches that they have to worry about. So all in all, there are around 200 managed 
devices for us to take care of. Currently they are using some program called "What's 
Up Gold". Personally, I hate this thing. It's not secure, the features are minimal, 
and I hate web based stuff. They have it set up on one machine and everyone access's 
it from the web to it's IP.
  The manager has expresed some interest in other methods but it will be hard to 
move him away from what there is now after he gets back in a week from a business 
trip. I would like to present a proposal on a new management system. My problem is 
that I have only worked in Openview before. I think Openview is awesome and gives you 
all the features you need and more. For this site though, I think it would be too 
much. I just don't think it's really needed for the size of this network and the 
management/configuration of it would overseed the network management itself.
  Basically, I'm asking what you guru's out there think I should present to use. 
Should it be CiscoWorks2000, Openview, or stay with What's Up Gold? I really 
appreciate the help and thanks for putting up with the long post. Thanks all,
 
 Mark Z...
 
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ciscosecure database

2001-01-31 Thread C. Cubberley

Hi all,

 I am curious to know if anyone has ever tried to change from the
default ISQL database that comes with  CiscoSecure to an ORACLE database?
We are using CiscoSecure for UNIX ver 2.3.3 and have come close to the 5,000
user limit and are looking for ways to remedy this.  Any ideas would be
appreciated.

TIA,
Connie Cubberley

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RE: Lowering of standards on CCNP 2.0?

2001-01-31 Thread William E. Gragido

I would say to a certain extent you are right with the possible exception
being BGPv4.  To me, the test was challenging but not that difficult,
however some of the questions that I got on BGPv4 did not reflect the
materials that I studied regarding the protocol.  I have since acquired
Halabi's second addition though; and must say that it is a good read.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Geoff Zinderdine
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 5:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Lowering of standards on CCNP 2.0?


Listmembers,

I wrote the BSCN on Monday, and I must say that I was
underwhelmed.  I read Halabi and Moy's book on OSPF a
year or so ago so they weren't exactly top of mind,
and used the BSCN guide.  Even using this guide almost
exclusively I scored well over 900 with ten days
study.

I hope that I just got an easy batch of questions from
the pool.  It doesn't bode well for the value of this
certification if the bar is significantly lowered.  I
hope that they put the pass up to 790 as they did with
the ACRC.  Even at this level, it would still be a
relatively easy exam.

Does anybody else feel the same way?  I don't want to
see the value of this certification which so many of
us are spending a considerable amount of money and
time on plummet because of a relaxing of standards.

If so, perhaps we could write individually or as a
group to Cisco to recommend a reevaluation of their
passing grades/exam development.  If I am way out in
left field on this, my apologies to the list for
lowering the s/n ratio:P

Best regards,

Geoffrey Zinderdine
CCNA MCP2K CCA BLAH BLAH BLAH



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ISDN error

2001-01-31 Thread Dennis Laganiere

I'm setting up my new Emutel Lite ISDN simulator and I'm this close to being
up (hold thumb and index finger very close together).  Can anybody tell me
what I'm doing wrong to get the last bit to work?  Attached are the configs
and the output from the show ISDN status command.  Thanks in advance to the
ones who figure it out.   

RouterA
s ru
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname routera
!
enable secret 5 $1$naI1$fKT5wJj8ZffPpJu294s6w.
!
ip subnet-zero
no ip domain-lookup
isdn switch-type basic-dms100
!
interface BRI0
 ip address 196.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 90
 dialer map ip 196.1.1.2 name routerb broadcast 8995201
 dialer load-threshold 1 outbound
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-dms100
 isdn spid1 5101 8995101
 isdn spid2 5102 8995102
 no fair-queue
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink
!
ip classless
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
alias exec co config t
!
line con 0
 password dismal
 login
 transport input none
line aux 0
 password dismal
 login
line vty 0 4
 password dismal
 login
!
end

routera#s isdn sta
Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
ISDN BRI0 interface
dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
Layer 1 Status:
ACTIVE
Layer 2 Status:
TEI = 64, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
TEI = 65, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
Spid Status:
TEI 64, ces = 1, state = 4(await init)
spid1 configured, spid1 sent, spid1 NOT valid
TEI 65, ces = 2, state = 4(await init)
spid2 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 NOT valid
Layer 3 Status:
0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003
   Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0
routera#



RouterB
routerb#s ru
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname routerb
!
!
ip subnet-zero
no ip domain-lookup
isdn switch-type basic-dms100
!
interface BRI0
 ip address 196.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 90
 dialer map ip 196.1.1.1 name routera
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-dms100
 isdn spid1 5201 8995201
 isdn spid2 5202 8995202
 ppp multilink
!
ip classless
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
alias exec co config t
!
line con 0
 transport input none
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 login
!
end

routerb#s isdn sta
Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
ISDN BRI0 interface
dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
Layer 1 Status:
ACTIVE
Layer 2 Status:
TEI = 64, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
TEI = 65, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
Spid Status:
TEI 64, ces = 1, state = 4(await init)
spid1 configured, spid1 sent, spid1 NOT valid
TEI 65, ces = 2, state = 4(await init)
spid2 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 NOT valid
Layer 3 Status:
0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003
   Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0
routerb#

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IGRP to EIGRP

2001-01-31 Thread Roberts, Timothy


I am looking for some suggestions on what would be the easiest way to
convert from IGRP to EIGRP in a large scale environment?
Thanks

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RE: Network Management Program (which???)

2001-01-31 Thread Jonn Martell


I agree on both the Openview (being too big/complex) and What's Up for
being cheesy.

We moved to Intermapper for a lot of the stuff we monitor.  The only
problem is that it runs only on the Mac but it has some great features.
Does SNMP and high level protocol probing.

It's not perfect and if anyone has more suggestions, please let us know!

  ... Jonn Martell, UBC

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Estes, Timothy R. wrote:

 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:22:58 -0500
 From: "Estes, Timothy R." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Network Management Program (which???)

 Mark Z,

 You're in a situation that a lot of router techs run into. What's Up Gold
 sucks and HPOV is to expensive. There really isn't any middle ground that
 I'm aware of. I've seen some "homegrown" solutions that people have
 developed, but no one has really come to the table to compete with HP in the
 middle sized network arena. I wish they would. Many companies in your
 situation are going with outsourced Network Management. I don't suggest this
 unless you really trust the company that you're trusting your network to,
 and you have a water-tight contract with them.

 I use multiple intallations of HPOV, some with NavisCore (CascadeView), and
 some with CiscoView/CiscoWorks. I also use evaluation versions of OV to
 exercise SNMP agents on new devices. It has the most bang for the time it
 takes to congirue it, when you're trying to document the SNMP traps that a
 specific agent produces. Companies my size need something even bigger than
 OV, like NetCool (Cisco InfoCenter) to manage their many management systems.
 We use Evidian OpenMaster. Its not my favorite, but it has a nice interface
 for managing Nortel DMS500 Class 5 switches. I recommend NetCool for a
 manager of managers. Its by far the most flexible MoM out there.

 Let me know if I can provide any more info...

 Good luck,

 Timothy Estes CCNA
 Senior Network Systems Analyst
 Tier III Systems Support
 Intermedia Communications Inc.
 1 Intermedia Way
 MC FLT TE-2
 Tampa FL 33674
 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 9:04 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Network Management Program (which???)


 Hey Group,
  Need some help on this one. I just came on as a contractor for this
 company. The network is somewhat small. They have around 186 routers
 worldwide and around 22 switches that they have to worry about. So all in
 all, there are around 200 managed devices for us to take care of. Currently
 they are using some program called "What's Up Gold". Personally, I hate this
 thing. It's not secure, the features are minimal, and I hate web based
 stuff. They have it set up on one machine and everyone access's it from the
 web to it's IP.
  The manager has expresed some interest in other methods but it will be
 hard to move him away from what there is now after he gets back in a week
 from a business trip. I would like to present a proposal on a new management
 system. My problem is that I have only worked in Openview before. I think
 Openview is awesome and gives you all the features you need and more. For
 this site though, I think it would be too much. I just don't think it's
 really needed for the size of this network and the management/configuration
 of it would overseed the network management itself.
  Basically, I'm asking what you guru's out there think I should present
 to use. Should it be CiscoWorks2000, Openview, or stay with What's Up Gold?
 I really appreciate the help and thanks for putting up with the long post.
 Thanks all,

 Mark Z...

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Re: IGRP to EIGRP

2001-01-31 Thread Jason Fletcher

Check this out:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/np1_c
/1cprt1/1ceigrp.htm#xtocid84274

Jason

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 I am looking for some suggestions on what would be the easiest way to
 convert from IGRP to EIGRP in a large scale environment?
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RE: ISDN error

2001-01-31 Thread Buri, Heather H

Dennis,

Just from quick inspection, one obvious problem is you are getting invalid
SPID messages.  I would contact your local provider and verify the SPIDs
against what they gave you.  

I also notice that on your dialer map statement, your number does not match
up with either of the SPID's you typed in for your SPID statements.

There may be something else that I am missing but I would start there.

Heather

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:44 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: ISDN error


I'm setting up my new Emutel Lite ISDN simulator and I'm this close to being
up (hold thumb and index finger very close together).  Can anybody tell me
what I'm doing wrong to get the last bit to work?  Attached are the configs
and the output from the show ISDN status command.  Thanks in advance to the
ones who figure it out.   

RouterA
s ru
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname routera
!
enable secret 5 $1$naI1$fKT5wJj8ZffPpJu294s6w.
!
ip subnet-zero
no ip domain-lookup
isdn switch-type basic-dms100
!
interface BRI0
 ip address 196.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 90
 dialer map ip 196.1.1.2 name routerb broadcast 8995201
 dialer load-threshold 1 outbound
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-dms100
 isdn spid1 5101 8995101
 isdn spid2 5102 8995102
 no fair-queue
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink
!
ip classless
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
alias exec co config t
!
line con 0
 password dismal
 login
 transport input none
line aux 0
 password dismal
 login
line vty 0 4
 password dismal
 login
!
end

routera#s isdn sta
Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
ISDN BRI0 interface
dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
Layer 1 Status:
ACTIVE
Layer 2 Status:
TEI = 64, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
TEI = 65, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
Spid Status:
TEI 64, ces = 1, state = 4(await init)
spid1 configured, spid1 sent, spid1 NOT valid
TEI 65, ces = 2, state = 4(await init)
spid2 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 NOT valid
Layer 3 Status:
0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003
   Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0
routera#



RouterB
routerb#s ru
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname routerb
!
!
ip subnet-zero
no ip domain-lookup
isdn switch-type basic-dms100
!
interface BRI0
 ip address 196.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 90
 dialer map ip 196.1.1.1 name routera
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-dms100
 isdn spid1 5201 8995201
 isdn spid2 5202 8995202
 ppp multilink
!
ip classless
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
alias exec co config t
!
line con 0
 transport input none
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 login
!
end

routerb#s isdn sta
Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
ISDN BRI0 interface
dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
Layer 1 Status:
ACTIVE
Layer 2 Status:
TEI = 64, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
TEI = 65, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
Spid Status:
TEI 64, ces = 1, state = 4(await init)
spid1 configured, spid1 sent, spid1 NOT valid
TEI 65, ces = 2, state = 4(await init)
spid2 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 NOT valid
Layer 3 Status:
0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003
   Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0
routerb#

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RE: ISDN error

2001-01-31 Thread Buri, Heather H

Dennis,

I did not read all the way to the second config.  Your broadcast statement
might be okay but I would still double check the SPIDs against what Telco
has.

Heather

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:44 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: ISDN error


I'm setting up my new Emutel Lite ISDN simulator and I'm this close to being
up (hold thumb and index finger very close together).  Can anybody tell me
what I'm doing wrong to get the last bit to work?  Attached are the configs
and the output from the show ISDN status command.  Thanks in advance to the
ones who figure it out.   

RouterA
s ru
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname routera
!
enable secret 5 $1$naI1$fKT5wJj8ZffPpJu294s6w.
!
ip subnet-zero
no ip domain-lookup
isdn switch-type basic-dms100
!
interface BRI0
 ip address 196.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 90
 dialer map ip 196.1.1.2 name routerb broadcast 8995201
 dialer load-threshold 1 outbound
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-dms100
 isdn spid1 5101 8995101
 isdn spid2 5102 8995102
 no fair-queue
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink
!
ip classless
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
alias exec co config t
!
line con 0
 password dismal
 login
 transport input none
line aux 0
 password dismal
 login
line vty 0 4
 password dismal
 login
!
end

routera#s isdn sta
Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
ISDN BRI0 interface
dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
Layer 1 Status:
ACTIVE
Layer 2 Status:
TEI = 64, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
TEI = 65, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
Spid Status:
TEI 64, ces = 1, state = 4(await init)
spid1 configured, spid1 sent, spid1 NOT valid
TEI 65, ces = 2, state = 4(await init)
spid2 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 NOT valid
Layer 3 Status:
0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003
   Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0
routera#



RouterB
routerb#s ru
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname routerb
!
!
ip subnet-zero
no ip domain-lookup
isdn switch-type basic-dms100
!
interface BRI0
 ip address 196.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 90
 dialer map ip 196.1.1.1 name routera
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-dms100
 isdn spid1 5201 8995201
 isdn spid2 5202 8995202
 ppp multilink
!
ip classless
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
alias exec co config t
!
line con 0
 transport input none
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 login
!
end

routerb#s isdn sta
Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
ISDN BRI0 interface
dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
Layer 1 Status:
ACTIVE
Layer 2 Status:
TEI = 64, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
TEI = 65, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
Spid Status:
TEI 64, ces = 1, state = 4(await init)
spid1 configured, spid1 sent, spid1 NOT valid
TEI 65, ces = 2, state = 4(await init)
spid2 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 NOT valid
Layer 3 Status:
0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003
   Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0
routerb#

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RE: ISDN error

2001-01-31 Thread Barnhill, Don

Dennis,

I see a few issues:

1. router a has ppp auth chap set up but its not on router b.
2. you need the username xxx password xxx on each router (global config) and
(the username 'xxx' is the other router's hostname that its talking too,
both the username and the password are case sensitive)..example for router a
is: hostname routerb password cisco
3. its appears that your spids are NOT valid.  Check your spids to ensure
you have the right ones and they are on the right router.

Don

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:44 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: ISDN error


I'm setting up my new Emutel Lite ISDN simulator and I'm this close to being
up (hold thumb and index finger very close together).  Can anybody tell me
what I'm doing wrong to get the last bit to work?  Attached are the configs
and the output from the show ISDN status command.  Thanks in advance to the
ones who figure it out.   

RouterA
s ru
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname routera
!
enable secret 5 $1$naI1$fKT5wJj8ZffPpJu294s6w.
!
ip subnet-zero
no ip domain-lookup
isdn switch-type basic-dms100
!
interface BRI0
 ip address 196.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 90
 dialer map ip 196.1.1.2 name routerb broadcast 8995201
 dialer load-threshold 1 outbound
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-dms100
 isdn spid1 5101 8995101
 isdn spid2 5102 8995102
 no fair-queue
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink
!
ip classless
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
alias exec co config t
!
line con 0
 password dismal
 login
 transport input none
line aux 0
 password dismal
 login
line vty 0 4
 password dismal
 login
!
end

routera#s isdn sta
Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
ISDN BRI0 interface
dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
Layer 1 Status:
ACTIVE
Layer 2 Status:
TEI = 64, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
TEI = 65, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
Spid Status:
TEI 64, ces = 1, state = 4(await init)
spid1 configured, spid1 sent, spid1 NOT valid
TEI 65, ces = 2, state = 4(await init)
spid2 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 NOT valid
Layer 3 Status:
0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003
   Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0
routera#



RouterB
routerb#s ru
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname routerb
!
!
ip subnet-zero
no ip domain-lookup
isdn switch-type basic-dms100
!
interface BRI0
 ip address 196.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 90
 dialer map ip 196.1.1.1 name routera
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-dms100
 isdn spid1 5201 8995201
 isdn spid2 5202 8995202
 ppp multilink
!
ip classless
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
alias exec co config t
!
line con 0
 transport input none
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 login
!
end

routerb#s isdn sta
Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
ISDN BRI0 interface
dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-dms100
Layer 1 Status:
ACTIVE
Layer 2 Status:
TEI = 64, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
TEI = 65, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
Spid Status:
TEI 64, ces = 1, state = 4(await init)
spid1 configured, spid1 sent, spid1 NOT valid
TEI 65, ces = 2, state = 4(await init)
spid2 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 NOT valid
Layer 3 Status:
0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003
   Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0
routerb#

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Re: securemote through pix firewall

2001-01-31 Thread Allen May

Did you remember to put the nat statement in for the IP range that the
secureremote users are using and set up the access-list permits for them as
well?

Chapter 10 in the IPSec User Guide 5.3 covers this pretty well.

- Original Message -
From: "pat" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: securemote through pix firewall


 Well am too having the same problem. The issue seems
 to be due to address translation the PIX does. The
 actual address on the firewall interface(outside) is
 different  the secure remote client uses different IP
 (IP mapped by PIX) to establish the session. But I
 don't understand why authentication fails.

  In my case topology dowload goes through, but
 authentication fails. If i sit behind PIX everything
 is fine. PIX is trnslating Public IP to Private IP.
 Let me know if you get to know why this happens.

 thanks.


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  HEI
 
  I hope someone could help me with a big problem Ive
  got.
  My client needs to use securemot ipsec program
  through a pix firewall to a
  firewall1 at the remote sight.
  theres no problem to get key exchange process, and I
  am beeing prompted for
  password and username.
  after this the program says the authentication is
  OK, but explorer comes up with
  cannot find the page.
  When I test the same procedure connected without the
  pix everything functions
  OK.
  Could anyone please give me a tip to solve this
  situation.
 
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RE: Zero for a host address

2001-01-31 Thread Bob Vance

Believe it or not, I did once see (a bug) where the OS didn't allow a
zero in a byte of the host portion of the IP address, even though the
*total* host portion was not zero!! (I can't remember which OS, though
-- I'm thinking an early HP-UX, but possibly Windoze).

E.g., something like,
10.10.10.10 / 16   was valid
but 10.10.10.0 / 16   was *invalid* !

However, this was just in assigning the address -- i.e., it wouldn't
even let me assign it to the interface.


I don't see how this could affect you, though.

I believe that the problem lies with the zero being used as a third
octet

ACLs don't have any intelligence.
They don't care about broadcast addresses, subnet masks, DOS or hack
attacks, or anything -- just simple bit matching.
The only intelligence involved is in the ACL's creator :)

Thus

access-list 1  permit  host 10.130.0.24
  ...
ip access-group 1 in

should allow in *only* traffic from that host (assuming that there *is*
any) -- of course that may not be what you *really* want ;)
The ACL doesn't care about any value of any byte in that address -- he
only matches bits (of course, in this case, the statement told him to
*care* about *every* bit, however :)

More specifically,

access-list 101  permit tcp  10.130.0.24  0.0.0.0 any eq telnet
access-list 101  deny   ip   10.130.0.0   0.143.255.255  any
access-list 101  permit ip   any any

would
  permit telnet in from that host,
  deny all other ip traffic from the 10.128.0.0 /12 subnet
  permit all other traffic

Of course, it all depends on the details of what you're trying to do.

What's the exact problem?
Is it that *no* traffic is blocked or is it that that host is blocked,
even though you think that you've let it thru?
Let's see the ACLs.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Randy Witt
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 8:58 AM
To: 
Subject: Zero for a host address


Have an issue, hope many of you don't feel this is too off topic.  Many
of =
you have helped me in the past with certification questions, perhaps you
=
can assist with this one as well.

I am trying to establish a connection to the City of Greenville's
network. =
 What should be a simple connection is giving me fits.

I'm currently using 2 Cisco 1601 routers, routing RIPv2.  From my
network =
to the city's, I pass through a total of 5 routers (2 our mine, 3 belong
=
to the city).  Currently I can communicate with each router and vice
versa =
via Telnet or ping.  However, the city of Greenville's network has the =
following IP address 10.128.0.0/12 (or 255.240.0.0).  The interface =
attached to the city of Greenville's network is 10.130.0.1/12.
Everything =
within this network has  3'd octet of zero. =20

Originally, from his network he could not ping us, however I could ping
=
him (him being the net admin using a PC with an address of
10.130.0.24/12).=
  I added a default route on one of my Cisco's pointing back to his =
network and that problem went away.  Now I'm trying to add an ACL on our
=
router blocking all but Telnet traffic coming from a host on his network
=
to a host within our network.  In testing I can get the ACL's to work
for =
every system except one on the 10.128.0.0 subnet.  By work I mean on the
=
networks in between my network and the city's I can setup ICMP or Telnet
=
ACL's permitting traffic and they can get in.  This was done for testing
=
purposes only.  My goal is to lock everyone out but the host w/ an IP =
address of 10.130.0.24/12.

I believe that the problem lies with the zero being used as a third
octet =
.  However I've seen Cisco documentation using zero's as host addresses.
=
I'm a bit confused for I've found plenty of documentation stating that =
zero's in the network/subnet address aren't recommended, however I can =
find nothing stating zero's in the "host" portion aren't recommended.

Any ideas?  Has anyone come across a problem like this before?

Simple answer would be to tell the city of Greenville to remove the zero
=
in the third octet and replace it with a one or higher.  The answer from
=
them is that it would be too much trouble.  This is their default
gateway =
for over 450 machines.  So I'm looking for help to see if there's
anything =
else I can try.

Thanks for any and all advice,
rtw

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off

FW: Ethernet switching

2001-01-31 Thread Rik Guyler

Uh...this is not quite correct.

Out of the box, it is true that the switch will have no VLAN info except
VLAN 1, which is the default VLAN.  However, the subnet mask would need to
be correct on both end stations in order for PING to function between them.
The switch really has nothing to do with this process except to allow them
contact with each other.  It is the end stations that actually facilitate
the PING.

So, to answer the original question, the end stations will be able to PING
each other (with the switch right out of the box) PROVIDED the subnet masks
are correct and match each other on both ends.

Think of it this way: right out of the box, a 29xx switch acts more or less
like a Layer 1 hub, with no real Layer 2 stuff going on except the
maintenance of an ARP table.

Hope this helps!

Rik

-Original Message-
From: Sheahan, Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:24 AM
To: 'Fowler, Joey '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
Subject: RE: Ethernet switching


These are my thoughts, 

If the switch was right out of the box, the stations could ping each other
no matter what subnet mask you were using.  The reason being, they are
located in the same broadcast domain, vlan1.  This is the default vlan for
all switched ports at this time.  The first station would arp for the other,
it would get a response because they are on the same layer 2 broadcast
domain and they could speak directly using the switch.  

Switches by default with no mls, are layer two devices.  They have no
concept of IP.  They make decision based on layer 2 MAC addresses and the
ports they are connected to.  If these stations were in different vlans, the
situation would change.  You then have created two broadcast domains and in
order for the devices to talk, a router or mls entry would be needed.  

Someone please correct me if I am wrong.




-Original Message-
From: Fowler, Joey
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 1/31/01 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: Ethernet switching

Depends on the subnet mask you are using, for instance

142.102.3.1 with a subnet mask of 255.255.0.0
142.102.2.1 also with a subnet of 255.255.0.0

The 2.1 and 3.1 would be on the same subnet, however if you have a
different
subnet mask I don't think it would work.

Joey

-Original Message-
From: alexs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 7:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ethernet switching


Hello everyone,

I have a question that probably will sound silly but here it is:
Suppose that you take a new 2924 out of the box and you plug in two
PC's.
You assign address, for example, 142.102.2.1 to the first one and
142.102.3.1 to the second one.There is not any router in this small
network.142.102.2.1 tries to ping 142.102.3.1.The question is: will
142.102.2.1 get a reply and why?
Thanks
alexs


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Hybrid Routing Protocols

2001-01-31 Thread Fred Danson

Hi

 I just a general question about routing protocols, if anyone could help 
me out here I'd be grateful.
 When comparing EIGRP to Distance Vector routing protocols, like RIP, 
the only similarity that I noticed was that the network statements are both 
classful. Is this the only characteristic that prevent EIGRP from being 
considered a total link-state routing protocol? Or is there something else I 
failed to notice?


Thanks in Advance,
Freddy Krugar III
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Re: CCIE Prep lab at UCSC

2001-01-31 Thread epr02

This is were I took all of my Cisco Classes back in '99. From what I understand they 
have some labs available that simulates the CCIE lab test. I think it costs $250 per 
day -weekday only-. I was going to use this but have since built a complete lab of my 
own and purchased ccbootcamp. If you don't have thses resources then this I think this 
would be a good resource to try at least once. The lab MGR there I believe is Bomi and 
he told me at one time the labs they have are fairly complex. I think you need to have 
passed the CCIE written to take the lab there??? The classes are good too. All taught 
by Cisco employee's "CCIE" and are either at night or weekend classes at half the 
price of say a GlobalKnowledge. The difference being they don't give out the 
"official" class books from a training partner but are spread out over a quarter 
instead of a week so you actually can absorb the material. 

Regards

-- Original Message --
From: "Kevin Welch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Kevin Welch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 01:37:51 -0800

I was wondering if anyone has any expereince using the CCIE Prep Lab =
facility at UCSC.  Thoughts, comments, usefulness of this facility =
appreciated.

-- Kevin

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RE: DR Election

2001-01-31 Thread Brian Lodwick

What about Virtual-links too, aren't they considered a traffic type?

Brian


From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DR Election
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:19:07 -0500

 There are three main types on environments (I hope)

Correct, but also let me add:

 Demand circuit


 
 Broadcast
 Point-to-Point
 NBMA (Non-Broadcast Multi-Access)
 
 Point to Point would not be a multi-access segment. The other two would. 
An
 Example of Broadcast is Ethernet, while an example of NBMA would be
 Frame-Relay. Following this logic ' DR and BDR concepts ' would not have 
to
 be broadcast, only multi-access. Point to point creates an adjacency 
instead
 of using DR's and BDR's.
 
 I hope the diagram below turns out, but the first one is point to point, 
so
 information is exchanged directly, however in a multi-access environment
 both other routers only exchange information with the DR so as not to 
have
 to have an adjacency with every single router.
 
 X---X
 
O
 X-|
O
 
 If OSPF worked that way and you had 10 routers connected via Ethernet, 
each
 would each have to exchange information with the other 9. That would 
create
 45 adjacency's. Way to much traffic would have to exchanged. With those 
same
 10 Routers using OSPF DR and BDR concepts, you could have 1 Router with 
10
 "Adjacency's" total. Much less routing traffic. I hope I haven't muddled
 things to much.
 
 Joey
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pinoal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 2:58 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: DR Election
 
 
 
 
 Hi ,
 
 From the OSPF Design Guide - Sam Halabi
 
 ' DR and BDR concepts are per multiaccess segment '
 
 My question is what type of segments are considered  as "multiaccess
 segment" ?
 
 Ethernet , FR with Point-to-Multipoint with broadcast option enabled , 
any
 others??
 
 What does he mean by 'per multiaccess segment ' ?
 
 thanks
 
 
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Re: EIGRP Metrics

2001-01-31 Thread Jaeheon Yoo

Hi, Richard

I guess what you are missing is in the confusion between FD and RD.

Feasible Distance: The current best distance (metric) to a
destination. In other words, the metric through the successor.

Reported Distance: The distance from the successor to the destination
network

These definitions are from the same white paper. In the case you've
mentioned, RD is 7181506(minBandwidth:384k, total Delay: 20100),
7693056 would be its FD.
RD is literally "reported distance" from its neighbors, so the delay
and bandwidth of its own outgoing interface to that neighbor isn't
considered in RD.

Hope this helps

Regards,
Jaeheon


On 31 Jan 2001 12:20:25 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Wilson)
wrote:

Hi

No matter what I do, I can't seem to get the EIGRP
metrics to add up.  We all know they consist of Delay,
Bandwidth, Load and Reliability.  If K1 and K3 = 1 and
the rest 0, then the formula boils down to
(10**7/BW+delay)*256.  

I'm looking at an example in the certificationzone
white paper which shows a bandwidth of 384 kbit and a
total delay of 40100 microseconds.  No matter what I
do, I can't come up with the reported metric of
7693056.  

What am I missing?

Richard


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