[Elecraft] K3 - beta firmware 5.57
I just installed new beta firmware 5.57 on my K3S. As usually it has been easy to install and all worked perfectly after installation. Thanks Elecraft for a great rig (the best) and the first class service! Sure I would'nt change it for any other. Ian IK4EWX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware 4.81
Hello, Just update mine s/n #6552 and for my surprise he lost power on the upper bands (18-28mhz). Instead of 100 watts he has 55 watts, more or less. I revert the previous version ( 4.67) and the power back again. Does anyone have the same issue ?? 73 Rodrigo ct1bxt -- A utilizar o cliente de e-mail da Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware 4.81 Release Notes
The 4.81 firmware release notes as downloaded from the FTP site show only the following for version 4.81: * XVTR IF BAND CAN NOW BE 10 OR 18 MHZ (in addition to the original selections). Expansion of the release notes at least to list the steps to set the CW XFIL LO would be appreciated. 73, Paul W8TM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware 4.81 Release Notes, Retracted
Oops, I now see that the necessary information is listed in the release notes, but under an earlier beta that I seem not to have. Sorry. 73, Paul W8TM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware 4.81 Release Notes, Retracted
Paul, The release notes are cumulative. If it was included in an earlier firmware (whether beta or production), then it is also included in the higher numbered version - unless it is specifically retracted. The only exception would be a beta version that does not reach production status (and that is rare). 73, Don W3FPR On 2/4/2014 10:34 AM, Paul Kirley wrote: Oops, I now see that the necessary information is listed in the release notes, but under an earlier beta that I seem not to have. Sorry. 73, Paul W8TM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware 4.81 Release Notes
That's strange, I updated mine this pm and I had all the required info! Ken.. G0ORH Sent from my iPad On 4 Feb 2014, at 15:30, Paul Kirley pkir...@fuse.net wrote: The 4.81 firmware release notes as downloaded from the FTP site show only the following for version 4.81: * XVTR IF BAND CAN NOW BE 10 OR 18 MHZ (in addition to the original selections). Expansion of the release notes at least to list the steps to set the CW XFIL LO would be appreciated. 73, Paul W8TM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware 4.81 Release
Anyone have any problems with the new Firmware. I installed the firmware updates on the K3, KPA500, and KAT500 tuner. I had problems with the K3 after the update. There was some kind of problem with the power output. For starters I could not adjust the power out while the rig was keyed. For instance I tried to adjust the power on my KPA500 from 250 watts to 500 and could not adjust it while keying it. If I unkeyed I could raise the power a bit on the K3, then key back up to see what the AMP output was, then unkey to adjust again, then key to check again. I installed the older version of firmware back on the K3 and all was well again. -- 73 Steve AI9T http://www.ai9t.com AI9T DX Cluster Version 4 AI9T Telnet: dxc.ai9t.com port 7300 Version 6 AI9T-2 Telnet: dxc.ai9t.com port 7373 (CW + Skimmer) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware 4.81 Release
I could not reproduce this problem. I have the latest firmware (including beta releases) on all of my K-Line (K3, P3, KPA500, and KAT500). 73, Tony K4QE On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Steve AI9T st...@ai9t.com wrote: Anyone have any problems with the new Firmware. I installed the firmware updates on the K3, KPA500, and KAT500 tuner. I had problems with the K3 after the update. There was some kind of problem with the power output. For starters I could not adjust the power out while the rig was keyed. For instance I tried to adjust the power on my KPA500 from 250 watts to 500 and could not adjust it while keying it. If I unkeyed I could raise the power a bit on the K3, then key back up to see what the AMP output was, then unkey to adjust again, then key to check again. I installed the older version of firmware back on the K3 and all was well again. -- 73 Steve AI9T http://www.ai9t.com AI9T DX Cluster Version 4 AI9T Telnet: dxc.ai9t.com port 7300 Version 6 AI9T-2 Telnet: dxc.ai9t.com port 7373 (CW + Skimmer) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Release: Reduced FSK-D keying bandwidth, etc.
K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.66 (with DSP rev. 2.81) is now available. See release notes below. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For beta firmware download instructions, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * K3 MCU 4.66 / DSP 2.81, 3-22-2013 * FSK-D KEYING BANDWIDTH GREATLY REDUCED: This change reduces the amplitude of the FSK-D keying sidebands by 25-30 dB at a 500-Hz offset, giving the K3 one of the cleanest FSK signals available. * K3/0 (REMOTE-RIG) IMPROVEMENTS: (1) Supply voltage can go down to 7.6 V; (2) VFO lock works correctly; (3) TX LED no longer gets out of sync. * IMPROVED HANDLING OF SERIAL I/O (RS232) ERROR CONDITIONS. * SUPPORT ADDED FOR ALTERNATIVE LCD DRIVER IC. This has no effect on radio operation. * RIT AND XIT NO LONGER TURNED OFF UNINTENTIONALLY: In previous releases, changing bands via direct frequency entry (FREQ ENT) or remote-control band change commands (FA, FB, and BN) would turn off RIT and XIT. This was true even if CONFIG:SPLT SV was set to YES. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Release: Improved CW text decode
Does the latest beta version still include the ability to use the FM filter to transmit on AM? By the way, the new CW decoder works great. 73, Art WB8ENE -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-Rev-3-57-Synchronous-AM-Detection-AM-S-misc-improvements-tp3983997p7565738.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Release: Improved CW text decode
Yes. 73, Wayne N6KR On Nov 15, 2012, at 5:16 PM, WB8ENE wrote: Does the latest beta version still include the ability to use the FM filter to transmit on AM? By the way, the new CW decoder works great. 73, Art WB8ENE -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-Rev-3-57-Synchronous-AM-Detection-AM-S-misc-improvements-tp3983997p7565738.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Release: Improved CW text decode
K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.58 (with DSP rev. 2.80) is now available. This release includes improved built-in CW text decode. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For beta firmware download instructions, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * K3 MCU REV. 4.58 / DSP REV. 2.80, 11-7-2012 * KEYER PADDLE ENABLED IN FSK-D/PSK-D MODES ONLY IF TEXT DECODE IS ON: Those using FSK-D/PSK-D via with a computer requested that the paddles be disabled when the K3's internal text decode is OFF so that hitting the paddles accidentally doesn't interfere with PC-based transmission. * CW DECODE IMPROVED: The CW decode algorithm now includes its own AGC system, independent of regular AGC threshold/slope/decay settings. Decode of element spaces vs. word spaces adjust slightly to improve rate of copy on average code samples. CW DECODE TIPS: - Use the TEXT DEC switch and VFO A to set CW decode threshold. We recommend using THR 2 or 3 for most signals, and THR 1 for very weak signals. These fixed settings usually work better than AUTO. - Also use TEXT DEC and VFO B to turn on CW decode and select the speed range. The CW 5-40 WPM setting is best for all but the fastest CW. - Use a narrow WIDTH setting (50-250 Hz when possible) - If the band is noisy, interfering with copy, try turning on the noise blanker (NB) first to reduce the level of impulse noise. - When there is no CW signal above the required threshold, you'll see random characters decoded. - Copy will vary with sending accuracy, fading, signal level, interference, and noise. But the addition of separate CW decode AGC definitely helps. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Release: Improved CW text decode
Any other improvements or just CW decode?73, Guy On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:59 AM, wayne burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.58 (with DSP rev. 2.80) is now available. This release includes improved built-in CW text decode. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For beta firmware download instructions, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * K3 MCU REV. 4.58 / DSP REV. 2.80, 11-7-2012 * KEYER PADDLE ENABLED IN FSK-D/PSK-D MODES ONLY IF TEXT DECODE IS ON: Those using FSK-D/PSK-D via with a computer requested that the paddles be disabled when the K3's internal text decode is OFF so that hitting the paddles accidentally doesn't interfere with PC-based transmission. * CW DECODE IMPROVED: The CW decode algorithm now includes its own AGC system, independent of regular AGC threshold/slope/decay settings. Decode of element spaces vs. word spaces adjust slightly to improve rate of copy on average code samples. CW DECODE TIPS: - Use the TEXT DEC switch and VFO A to set CW decode threshold. We recommend using THR 2 or 3 for most signals, and THR 1 for very weak signals. These fixed settings usually work better than AUTO. - Also use TEXT DEC and VFO B to turn on CW decode and select the speed range. The CW 5-40 WPM setting is best for all but the fastest CW. - Use a narrow WIDTH setting (50-250 Hz when possible) - If the band is noisy, interfering with copy, try turning on the noise blanker (NB) first to reduce the level of impulse noise. - When there is no CW signal above the required threshold, you'll see random characters decoded. - Copy will vary with sending accuracy, fading, signal level, interference, and noise. But the addition of separate CW decode AGC definitely helps. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Release: Improved CW text decode
Guy, Didn't you read the release notes (even quoted in Wayne's email below)? The other change is that paddle input is disabled in FSK-D/PSK-D if text decode is not enabled. 73, ~iain / N6ML On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net wrote: Any other improvements or just CW decode?73, Guy On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:59 AM, wayne burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.58 (with DSP rev. 2.80) is now available. This release includes improved built-in CW text decode. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For beta firmware download instructions, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * K3 MCU REV. 4.58 / DSP REV. 2.80, 11-7-2012 * KEYER PADDLE ENABLED IN FSK-D/PSK-D MODES ONLY IF TEXT DECODE IS ON: Those using FSK-D/PSK-D via with a computer requested that the paddles be disabled when the K3's internal text decode is OFF so that hitting the paddles accidentally doesn't interfere with PC-based transmission. * CW DECODE IMPROVED: The CW decode algorithm now includes its own AGC system, independent of regular AGC threshold/slope/decay settings. Decode of element spaces vs. word spaces adjust slightly to improve rate of copy on average code samples. CW DECODE TIPS: - Use the TEXT DEC switch and VFO A to set CW decode threshold. We recommend using THR 2 or 3 for most signals, and THR 1 for very weak signals. These fixed settings usually work better than AUTO. - Also use TEXT DEC and VFO B to turn on CW decode and select the speed range. The CW 5-40 WPM setting is best for all but the fastest CW. - Use a narrow WIDTH setting (50-250 Hz when possible) - If the band is noisy, interfering with copy, try turning on the noise blanker (NB) first to reduce the level of impulse noise. - When there is no CW signal above the required threshold, you'll see random characters decoded. - Copy will vary with sending accuracy, fading, signal level, interference, and noise. But the addition of separate CW decode AGC definitely helps. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Release: Improved CW text decode
I read the release notes. And I asked him if there were any other fixes included. There are often additional issues repaired which do not involve documentation and/or operational changes and don't go into the notes. I read the entirety of his email and I stand by my question. 73, Guy. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:14 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.orgwrote: Guy, Didn't you read the release notes (even quoted in Wayne's email below)? The other change is that paddle input is disabled in FSK-D/PSK-D if text decode is not enabled. 73, ~iain / N6ML On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net wrote: Any other improvements or just CW decode?73, Guy On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:59 AM, wayne burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.58 (with DSP rev. 2.80) is now available. This release includes improved built-in CW text decode. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For beta firmware download instructions, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * K3 MCU REV. 4.58 / DSP REV. 2.80, 11-7-2012 * KEYER PADDLE ENABLED IN FSK-D/PSK-D MODES ONLY IF TEXT DECODE IS ON: Those using FSK-D/PSK-D via with a computer requested that the paddles be disabled when the K3's internal text decode is OFF so that hitting the paddles accidentally doesn't interfere with PC-based transmission. * CW DECODE IMPROVED: The CW decode algorithm now includes its own AGC system, independent of regular AGC threshold/slope/decay settings. Decode of element spaces vs. word spaces adjust slightly to improve rate of copy on average code samples. CW DECODE TIPS: - Use the TEXT DEC switch and VFO A to set CW decode threshold. We recommend using THR 2 or 3 for most signals, and THR 1 for very weak signals. These fixed settings usually work better than AUTO. - Also use TEXT DEC and VFO B to turn on CW decode and select the speed range. The CW 5-40 WPM setting is best for all but the fastest CW. - Use a narrow WIDTH setting (50-250 Hz when possible) - If the band is noisy, interfering with copy, try turning on the noise blanker (NB) first to reduce the level of impulse noise. - When there is no CW signal above the required threshold, you'll see random characters decoded. - Copy will vary with sending accuracy, fading, signal level, interference, and noise. But the addition of separate CW decode AGC definitely helps. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Release: Improved CW text decode
That's odd. I don't remember any beta release that didn't fully describe the changes that had been made, yet you say that it often happens. Can you provide a few examples that never were described in the notes? I'm curious what might have been changed that I don't know about. I'm also curious what kind of issue would get repaired that wouldn't be an operational issue in one way or another. Maybe you could give an example or two of that as well. Dave AB7E On 11/14/2012 1:17 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: I read the release notes. And I asked him if there were any other fixes included. There are often additional issues repaired which do not involve documentation and/or operational changes and don't go into the notes. I read the entirety of his email and I stand by my question. 73, Guy __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Release: Improved CW text decode
Only the Shadow Knows (Wayne). You get the answer by asking him :) You don't need additional documentation for a minor touch up of firmware to make the audio a little bit clearer. It's just there. There's an even chance that some will not hear it, and mentioning it cause a furor among those who don't hear it. It's not some great conspiracy. He calls them very minor. That's his call. So is how much to document also his call. But sometimes he does more good than he knows. Like the huge up-tick in clarity with 4.51. So sometimes I get on here and ask. Often is from a historical perspective and is my personal choice of a descriptor. You might look at the same list and disagree. That's fine. 73, Guy. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:16 PM, David Gilbert xda...@cis-broadband.comwrote: That's odd. I don't remember any beta release that didn't fully describe the changes that had been made, yet you say that it often happens. Can you provide a few examples that never were described in the notes? I'm curious what might have been changed that I don't know about. I'm also curious what kind of issue would get repaired that wouldn't be an operational issue in one way or another. Maybe you could give an example or two of that as well. Dave AB7E On 11/14/2012 1:17 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: I read the release notes. And I asked him if there were any other fixes included. There are often additional issues repaired which do not involve documentation and/or operational changes and don't go into the notes. I read the entirety of his email and I stand by my question. 73, Guy __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.36: QRQ mode auto-on/off when using SPLIT/RIT/XIT (etc.)
K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.36 (with DSP rev. 2.73) is now available. See release notes below. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 4.36 / DSP 2.73, 4-20-2011 * SUPPORT FOR KPA500 BAND CHANGE, FAULT/STATUS, and POWER CONTROL. * QRQ CW AUTO-OFF ON SPLIT/RIT/XIT: QRQ CW is now automatically turned off whenever you turn on SPLIT, RIT, or XIT. You’ll see QRQ OFF flashed on VFO B. QRQ mode is restored if you turn these off. (For QRQ CW details, see Rev. 4.03 notes.) * REVERSE (REV) FOR FM/REPEAT IS PERMANENT: Pressing REV when in FM mode with a repeater offset (+/-) selected now permanently swaps RX/TX frequencies and reverses the repeater offset direction. You do not have to continue to hold the REV switch. * 2-METER MODULE “S9” METER LEVEL ADJUSTED: The “S9” level on the K3’s S-meter now occurs with an input signal level of -93 dBm when the K144XV is selected. (This is a recognized standard on bands from 2 meters up. On other bands, “S9” still occurs at -73 dBm.) Notes: (1) The K3’s S-meter may not go all the way to S0 on this band because of the high preamp gain on the K144XV module. (2) If you have SMTR MD set to NOR, the S-meter reading will vary with the settings of the PRE and ATTN controls. * FRONT PANEL MIC PREAMP GAIN CONTROL: The front panel mic preamp has a high-gain setting that is now accessible. (This is independent the present “mic boost” DSP function.) If you use a low-output mic element, you may benefit from the high-gain setting. It should not be used with normal-level mics, as gain may be excessive. In MIC SEL (MAIN menu), use VFO A to select the front-panel mic (FP), then tap ‘7’ on the keypad to select high preamp gain. A “high bar” symbol will appear to the right of the mic boost character (L or H). As a reminder, DSP mic boost (H, or Hi) can be turned on/off by tapping ‘1’ on the keypad. Bias is controlled by ‘2’. * EXTERNAL 10-MHZ REFERENCE SUPPORT (K3EXREF). Remote-Control/Switch Macro Command Changes: * AP COMMAND TURNS APF ON/OFF: You can turn the CW audio peaking filter on/off by sending “AP1;” or “AP0;”, respectively. Applies only in CW mode with CONFIG:DUAL PB set to APF. (Not yet available for direct sub receiver control. Swap VFOs or do AB copy in order to set up sub receiver APF.) You can use this command to create a TAP function to turn APF on/off; use the Help function in K3 Utility for details on macros. * BG COMMAND USEABLE IN TX MODE: Reads PWR or ALC depending on METER setting. Note: In RX mode, BG returns up to 21 with CWT off, but only up to 09 with CWT on. Also, at present there is no way to read CWT, SWR, or CMP. * CHANNEL HOPPING CANCELLED ON FA/FB BAND CHANGE. * UP DN REMOTE COMMANDS NOW UPDATE P3. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.57: Synchronous AM Detection (AM-S); misc. improvements
Just did the upgrade. Outstanding. P3 is a joy. Don...w2xb -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-Rev-3-57-Synchronous-AM-Detection-AM-S-misc-improvements-tp3983997p5920508.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.14: P3 A/B switching improvement
K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.14 is now available. The most important change is to the behavior of the A/B and REV switches when the K3 is used with a P3. (See release notes below.) You'll also need to install revision 0.36 or later of P3 firmware, if you haven't already. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 4.14 / DSP 2.60 / FPF 1.13, 10-6-2010 * P3 UPDATED CORRECTLY ON K3 A/B SWITCH PRESS. * P3 FUNCTIONS CORRECTLY AFTER REV SWITCH PRESS: Previously, holding REV at the K3 would cause the P3 to stop tracking K3 VFO movement. Note: At present, holding REV does not result in any change in the P3 display. This will be changed in a future revision of K3 firmware. * BN REMOTE CONTROL COMMAND (BAND CHANGE): This command now changes bands more quickly. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
Yes, I noticed this on my bug also. This happens almost entirely on characters that start with a 'dah'. I think this is because the index finger is off the paddle between characters and the initial attack is a little more forceful. Subsequent dahs in the same character sound fine, but that first one has a 'tick' (a spike by the sound of it). No problem at all with the dits. BTW, I don't think this is a matter of bug adjustment; you can get the same effect by tapping down on a straight key from a slight distance. So it is a matter of technique. I can avoid it on the bug by keeping my index finger resting against the paddle all the time and avoiding that first hard strike, but can't send as well that way; maybe with practice... 73, Drew AF2Z lstavenhagen wrote: Heh. The new QSK is so fast it picks up bounce on the Dah contact on my Vibroplex, hi hi. Zowie 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-Rev-4-03-CW-mode-Ultra-fast-break-in-VOX-CW-up-to-100-WPM-tp5178377p5198534.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
I've noticed this as well. For me it's a Tick sound EVERY time I hit the Dah side of my bug. Nothing on the dit side, regardless of the speed or preasure. I thought at first it was the force that I was using.. So I tried pushing the lever slowly and carefully against the Dah contact, and it didn't make the sound.. So then I tried lighting my touch on the dah side while I was sending, and sure enough it was still there. So, I switched from my Begali Intrepid to my Vibroplex Original, and then I found that the ticking sound was GONE all together! Now I'm competely confused. What does the one dah side have that the other bug's doesn't??? Gold Contacts? A bad ground connection? More surface contact area, a larger area? You tell me. I LOVE the new QSK (QRQ), but if I had to deal with that Tick sound on the dah contact, I would just not use it. Shame. Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:37:18 -0700 From: drew...@verizon.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) Yes, I noticed this on my bug also. This happens almost entirely on characters that start with a 'dah'. I think this is because the index finger is off the paddle between characters and the initial attack is a little more forceful. Subsequent dahs in the same character sound fine, but that first one has a 'tick' (a spike by the sound of it). No problem at all with the dits. BTW, I don't think this is a matter of bug adjustment; you can get the same effect by tapping down on a straight key from a slight distance. So it is a matter of technique. I can avoid it on the bug by keeping my index finger resting against the paddle all the time and avoiding that first hard strike, but can't send as well that way; maybe with practice... 73, Drew AF2Z _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
For speeds that people can send with a bug (usually) the regular CW seems to work quite fine. CW plus is primarily intended to support very fast speeds, often heard now with operators sending with keyboards and other electronic keying devices. Debouncing a bug to prevent false starts when someone has poor contacts on one side is not one of the design goals for CW plus I've heard passed about, though the buffering of keying circuits used in most transmitters now has a small amount of debouncing effect which has likely been hiding the glitch. This would include the regular CW of the K3. With CW plus, however, that small false start has to be taken as legitimate, because pausing a small amount to make sure that the operator really means it, would make high speed CW sound jerky. CW plus was made to faithfully reproduce the keying at very high speeds, and has to take the blip seriously. Cleaning and proper adjustment of bug contacts were always needed in the day, because the condition you are talking about would result in scratchy keying...which was never blamed on the transmitter, only on the op who was not keeping his bug greased. The need is greater now because noone is keying the +100V or more found on the old open cathode circuits any more, and bad bug contacts will easier bother a mere 12 volts on the key, and bother 5 volts even worse. 73, Guy. On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:11 AM, The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com wrote: I've noticed this as well. For me it's a Tick sound EVERY time I hit the Dah side of my bug. Nothing on the dit side, regardless of the speed or preasure. I thought at first it was the force that I was using.. So I tried pushing the lever slowly and carefully against the Dah contact, and it didn't make the sound.. So then I tried lighting my touch on the dah side while I was sending, and sure enough it was still there. So, I switched from my Begali Intrepid to my Vibroplex Original, and then I found that the ticking sound was GONE all together! Now I'm competely confused. What does the one dah side have that the other bug's doesn't??? Gold Contacts? A bad ground connection? More surface contact area, a larger area? You tell me. I LOVE the new QSK (QRQ), but if I had to deal with that Tick sound on the dah contact, I would just not use it. Shame. Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:37:18 -0700 From: drew...@verizon.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) Yes, I noticed this on my bug also. This happens almost entirely on characters that start with a 'dah'. I think this is because the index finger is off the paddle between characters and the initial attack is a little more forceful. Subsequent dahs in the same character sound fine, but that first one has a 'tick' (a spike by the sound of it). No problem at all with the dits. BTW, I don't think this is a matter of bug adjustment; you can get the same effect by tapping down on a straight key from a slight distance. So it is a matter of technique. I can avoid it on the bug by keeping my index finger resting against the paddle all the time and avoiding that first hard strike, but can't send as well that way; maybe with practice... 73, Drew AF2Z _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
I was not complaining about the K3 QSK+ or requesting that Elecraft do anything at all about this. Merely commenting on the curious effect (because it is the dit contact on bugs that is typically screwed up; not the dahs). I noted that it was a matter of technique, and I've found that I can reduce the dah 'tick' entirely by keeping my index finger on the paddle instead of slamming it like you do with the dit side. Actually, I think this may be better bug technique in any case because it is only the dit side that you need to inject the kinetic energy into. Eliminating the unnecessary finger travel on the dah side might allow greater speed (if I can get used to it...) Yes, you can use a bug in normal QSK mode perfectly well for all intents and purspses. But the QSK+ mode does sound better, even at non-QRQ speeds. 73, Drew AF2Z On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:09:31 -0400, Guy.wrote: For speeds that people can send with a bug (usually) the regular CW seems to work quite fine. CW plus is primarily intended to support very fast speeds, often heard now with operators sending with keyboards and other electronic keying devices. Debouncing a bug to prevent false starts when someone has poor contacts on one side is not one of the design goals for CW plus I've heard passed about, though the buffering of keying circuits used in most transmitters now has a small amount of debouncing effect which has likely been hiding the glitch. This would include the regular CW of the K3. With CW plus, however, that small false start has to be taken as legitimate, because pausing a small amount to make sure that the operator really means it, would make high speed CW sound jerky. CW plus was made to faithfully reproduce the keying at very high speeds, and has to take the blip seriously. Cleaning and proper adjustment of bug contacts were always needed in the day, because the condition you are talking about would result in scratchy keying...which was never blamed on the transmitter, only on the op who was not keeping his bug greased. The need is greater now because noone is keying the +100V or more found on the old open cathode circuits any more, and bad bug contacts will easier bother a mere 12 volts on the key, and bother 5 volts even worse. 73, Guy. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
Drew, you have been watching the lady operator with the long finger nails on the Night-of-Nights Utube video too much. You don't need all that hand waving and finger motion to send with a bug! Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: drewko drew...@verizon.net To: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, June 19, 2010 11:58:02 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) I was not complaining about the K3 QSK+ or requesting that Elecraft do anything at all about this. Merely commenting on the curious effect (because it is the dit contact on bugs that is typically screwed up; not the dahs). I noted that it was a matter of technique, and I've found that I can reduce the dah 'tick' entirely by keeping my index finger on the paddle instead of slamming it like you do with the dit side. Actually, I think this may be better bug technique in any case because it is only the dit side that you need to inject the kinetic energy into. Eliminating the unnecessary finger travel on the dah side might allow greater speed (if I can get used to it...) Yes, you can use a bug in normal QSK mode perfectly well for all intents and purspses. But the QSK+ mode does sound better, even at non-QRQ speeds. 73, Drew AF2Z On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:09:31 -0400, Guy.wrote: For speeds that people can send with a bug (usually) the regular CW seems to work quite fine. CW plus is primarily intended to support very fast speeds, often heard now with operators sending with keyboards and other electronic keying devices. Debouncing a bug to prevent false starts when someone has poor contacts on one side is not one of the design goals for CW plus I've heard passed about, though the buffering of keying circuits used in most transmitters now has a small amount of debouncing effect which has likely been hiding the glitch. This would include the regular CW of the K3. With CW plus, however, that small false start has to be taken as legitimate, because pausing a small amount to make sure that the operator really means it, would make high speed CW sound jerky. CW plus was made to faithfully reproduce the keying at very high speeds, and has to take the blip seriously. Cleaning and proper adjustment of bug contacts were always needed in the day, because the condition you are talking about would result in scratchy keying...which was never blamed on the transmitter, only on the op who was not keeping his bug greased. The need is greater now because noone is keying the +100V or more found on the old open cathode circuits any more, and bad bug contacts will easier bother a mere 12 volts on the key, and bother 5 volts even worse. 73, Guy. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode(Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
CW plus was made to faithfully reproduce the keying at very high speeds, and has to take the blip seriously. This sounds like an identical thread from last August. Just as some CW keyer circuits require debouncing when using paddle contacts having dissimilar metals, debouncing a bug is a good idea when used in the CW + application. My preferred method of debouncing uses a Schottky hex buffer with a 2N7000 on the key line. In my experience with this circuit, it completely smoothes the key contact transitions on a bug. Another option that may work comes from microHam. K1EL developed a PIC-based debouncing circuit powered by a coin battery. It was initially used when users of certain Begali paddles were experiencing contact bounce resulting from dissimilar metals being used on early Begali key contacts. I suspect that the microHam de-bouncer would be an excellent off-the-shelf solution to key bounce problems. http://www.microham-usa.com/Products/Begali.html Paul, W9AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
I'm sorry Guy, but I'm not hearing bounce on my key. And I can assure you that my bug doesn't have poor contacts on either side. I get ONE single Dah when sending a Dah.. What I hear is a TICK sound, and not a tone when I first key down. If speed and bounce were the issue than I would be sure to hear it on the dit side regardless of the speed... This problem is something else. Furthermore I don't see why QRQ type QSK mode is ONLY for people going fast.. Personally I send as slow as 18wpm and as high as 35 wpm on my bugs, and enjoy the fast switching of the new CW+ mode. In my opinion THIS is what QSK SHOULD sound like.. I would recommend that someone actually look into keying with more than just the paddles or keyboards. Perhaps you have misunderstood that people are not trying to complain here Guy, yet let the Elecraft guys know that they should look into this. That's why it's still BETA software at this point... Don't poo poo it so fast. Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:09:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) From: olin...@bellsouth.net To: notforc...@hotmail.com CC: drew...@verizon.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net For speeds that people can send with a bug (usually) the regular CW seems to work quite fine. CW plus is primarily intended to support very fast speeds, often heard now with operators sending with keyboards and other electronic keying devices. Debouncing a bug to prevent false starts when someone has poor contacts on one side is not one of the design goals for CW plus I've heard passed about, though the buffering of keying circuits used in most transmitters now has a small amount of debouncing effect which has likely been hiding the glitch. This would include the regular CW of the K3. With CW plus, however, that small false start has to be taken as legitimate, because pausing a small amount to make sure that the operator really means it, would make high speed CW sound jerky. CW plus was made to faithfully reproduce the keying at very high speeds, and has to take the blip seriously. Cleaning and proper adjustment of bug contacts were always needed in the day, because the condition you are talking about would result in scratchy keying...which was never blamed on the transmitter, only on the op who was not keeping his bug greased. The need is greater now because noone is keying the +100V or more found on the old open cathode circuits any more, and bad bug contacts will easier bother a mere 12 volts on the key, and bother 5 volts even worse. 73, Guy. On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:11 AM, The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com wrote: I've noticed this as well. For me it's a Tick sound EVERY time I hit the Dah side of my bug. Nothing on the dit side, regardless of the speed or preasure. I thought at first it was the force that I was using.. So I tried pushing the lever slowly and carefully against the Dah contact, and it didn't make the sound.. So then I tried lighting my touch on the dah side while I was sending, and sure enough it was still there. So, I switched from my Begali Intrepid to my Vibroplex Original, and then I found that the ticking sound was GONE all together! Now I'm competely confused. What does the one dah side have that the other bug's doesn't??? Gold Contacts? A bad ground connection? More surface contact area, a larger area? You tell me. I LOVE the new QSK (QRQ), but if I had to deal with that Tick sound on the dah contact, I would just not use it. Shame. Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:37:18 -0700 From: drew...@verizon.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) Yes, I noticed this on my bug also. This happens almost entirely on characters that start with a 'dah'. I think this is because the index finger is off the paddle between characters and the initial attack is a little more forceful. Subsequent dahs in the same character sound fine, but that first one has a 'tick' (a spike by the sound of it). No problem at all with the dits. BTW, I don't think this is a matter of bug adjustment; you can get the same effect by tapping down on a straight key from a slight distance. So it is a matter of technique. I can avoid it on the bug by keeping my index finger resting against the paddle all the time and avoiding that first hard strike, but can't send as well that way; maybe with practice... 73, Drew AF2Z _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode(Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
This sounds like an identical thread from last August. Just as some CW keyer circuits require debouncing when using paddle contacts having dissimilar metals, debouncing a bug is a good idea when used in the CW + application. The dissimilar metals issue was not one of bounce. It was (and still is) because many of the new alloys include aluminum or other metals that produce a semiconducting oxide. That oxide results in a diode junction at the contacts with an offset (minimum contact voltage) of about 0.5V which upsets low power CMOS inputs or PIC devices that rely on differences in voltages to detect left, right, and both paddle closures on a single input pin. I suspect that the microHam de-bouncer would be an excellent off-the-shelf solution to key bounce problems. While the K1EL PIC has some debouncing properties, I suspect the real benefit is due to providing a buffered output that goes completely to ground (clean contacts). All current microHAM products that use the original K1EL WinKey now contain buffers (voltage comparators) to raise the switching threshold, eliminating any problem with offset due to the diode effect. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America, LLC. http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM On 6/19/2010 2:18 PM, Paul Christensen wrote: CW plus was made to faithfully reproduce the keying at very high speeds, and has to take the blip seriously. This sounds like an identical thread from last August. Just as some CW keyer circuits require debouncing when using paddle contacts having dissimilar metals, debouncing a bug is a good idea when used in the CW + application. My preferred method of debouncing uses a Schottky hex buffer with a 2N7000 on the key line. In my experience with this circuit, it completely smoothes the key contact transitions on a bug. Another option that may work comes from microHam. K1EL developed a PIC-based debouncing circuit powered by a coin battery. It was initially used when users of certain Begali paddles were experiencing contact bounce resulting from dissimilar metals being used on early Begali key contacts. I suspect that the microHam de-bouncer would be an excellent off-the-shelf solution to key bounce problems. http://www.microham-usa.com/Products/Begali.html Paul, W9AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
Hi Cookie, I have seen that video and it is well beyond the degree of motion that I use on the bug. In fact, I have a Viz right-angle bug which is a lighter key and requires a lighter touch than the typical Vibroplex. And I use it without benefit of any epoxy, superglue, and/or anchor bolts holding it down to the desk as a lot of bug users seem to do. If I was really slamming it like in the video it would walk off the desk in short order, haha! Even so, that slight initial tap on the leading dahs is enough to make my K3 go TICK! 73, Drew AF2Z On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:05:52 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Drew, you have been watching the lady operator with the long finger nails on the Night-of-Nights Utube video too much. You don't need all that hand waving and finger motion to send with a bug! Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
Well, the Elecraft is getting the signal from both your bug's dit and your dah contact on the same lead. And if your closures are perfect, by what process is the K3 able to determine that the contact is from only one side of a bug to give just that one side a tick? And when the tick can be cured as was posted by changing hand technique? The closure waveform is clearly not the same for dit and dah. If you were sending code on an old 807 rig, one of the old time locals would be on your case for scratchy keying, and tell you which contact on your bug it was. Your denials of bug contact complicity at the club meeting would just get you looks. What I find interesting out of this is that there is enough interest in using bugs, that a debouncer option for mechanical keys is a reasonable request. Getting bug contacts correct for using on low voltage circuits IS and HAS BEEN a real PITA, never needing to be broached by the old-timers that designed the bugs. The CW+ was introduced particularly to serve high speed CW interests that were not being addressed, with dits at some speeds pretty close to a click. Not that someone else shouldn't use it. The current settings are wonderful for the very high speed stuff and I do hope that Wayne will not degrade it to debounce mechanical bugs being operated at speeds serviced well at the regular CW. Just improve the QSK at the regular CW setting, although I know he is fighting state change processing budgets. 73, Guy On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 2:27 PM, The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm sorry Guy, but I'm not hearing bounce on my key. And I can assure you that my bug doesn't have poor contacts on either side. I get ONE single Dah when sending a Dah.. What I hear is a TICK sound, and not a tone when I first key down. If speed and bounce were the issue than I would be sure to hear it on the dit side regardless of the speed... This problem is something else. Furthermore I don't see why QRQ type QSK mode is ONLY for people going fast.. Personally I send as slow as 18wpm and as high as 35 wpm on my bugs, and enjoy the fast switching of the new CW+ mode. In my opinion THIS is what QSK SHOULD sound like.. I would recommend that someone actually look into keying with more than just the paddles or keyboards. Perhaps you have misunderstood that people are not trying to complain here Guy, yet let the Elecraft guys know that they should look into this. That's why it's still BETA software at this point... Don't poo poo it so fast. Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:09:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) From: olin...@bellsouth.net To: notforc...@hotmail.com CC: drew...@verizon.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net For speeds that people can send with a bug (usually) the regular CW seems to work quite fine. CW plus is primarily intended to support very fast speeds, often heard now with operators sending with keyboards and other electronic keying devices. Debouncing a bug to prevent false starts when someone has poor contacts on one side is not one of the design goals for CW plus I've heard passed about, though the buffering of keying circuits used in most transmitters now has a small amount of debouncing effect which has likely been hiding the glitch. This would include the regular CW of the K3. With CW plus, however, that small false start has to be taken as legitimate, because pausing a small amount to make sure that the operator really means it, would make high speed CW sound jerky. CW plus was made to faithfully reproduce the keying at very high speeds, and has to take the blip seriously. Cleaning and proper adjustment of bug contacts were always needed in the day, because the condition you are talking about would result in scratchy keying...which was never blamed on the transmitter, only on the op who was not keeping his bug greased. The need is greater now because noone is keying the +100V or more found on the old open cathode circuits any more, and bad bug contacts will easier bother a mere 12 volts on the key, and bother 5 volts even worse. 73, Guy. On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:11 AM, The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com wrote: I've noticed this as well. For me it's a Tick sound EVERY time I hit the Dah side of my bug. Nothing on the dit side, regardless of the speed or preasure. I thought at first it was the force that I was using.. So I tried pushing the lever slowly and carefully against the Dah contact, and it didn't make the sound.. So then I tried lighting my touch on the dah side while I was sending, and sure enough it was still there. So, I switched from my Begali Intrepid to my Vibroplex Original, and then I found that the ticking sound was GONE all together! Now I'm competely confused. What does the one dah side have that the other bug's doesn't??? Gold Contacts? A bad ground connection? More surface contact
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fast break-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
KK7P wrote: I tried it and had no trouble copying using Cocoamodem on a Mac, and MMTTY on a PC, as well as another K3's internal decoder. I sent FSK using MMTTY and a RigExpert Plus interface, and had no trouble copying on the Cocamodem/Mac and on antoehr K3's internal decoder. Might just be a case of the wrong FSK polarity setting in the CONFIG menu? Never having used FSK before, I didn't even know there was such a setting. I just used DATA MD to set RTTY 75 as directed. I'll have a look and see if it makes a difference. Thanks. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-Rev-3-57-Synchronous-AM-Detection-AM-S-misc-improvements-tp3983997p5180898.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fast break-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
KK7P wrote: Might just be a case of the wrong FSK polarity setting in the CONFIG menu? Yep, that seems to be the answer. CONFIG FSK POL has to be 1. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-Rev-3-57-Synchronous-AM-Detection-AM-S-misc-improvements-tp3983997p5181437.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fast break-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:02:57 -0700, you wrote: * FIXED FSK-D STUCK TONE: Occasionally, sending RTTY using the keyer paddle (FSK-D) would leave sidetone on. Hmmm... CW(KY command) Occasionally stuck with tone when aborted before finish sending, is not fixed. -- OV1A Jens Whoever ordered pizza by fax, please clean the machine. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fast break-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.02 (with DSP rev. 2.60) is now available. See full release notes below. The most significant addition is CW+ mode. CW+ provides extremely fast break-in (receive recovery between code elements up to about 70 WPM) as well as VOX CW operation at speeds up to 100 WPM. We added CW+ mode primarily for high-speed (QRQ) operators, but the new, faster break-in applies at slower speeds, as well. Please give it a try. NOTE: There are significant limitations to CW+ mode at present, as described below. Please review them carefully. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 4.03 / DSP 2.60, 6-10-2010 * 75 BAUD (100 WPM) RTTY SUPPORT: The built-in encoder/decoder (DATA/FSK-D) now supports both 45 and 75 baud. To select the desired rate, hold the DATA MD switch, then rotate VFO A. * ULTRA-FAST BREAK-IN AND QRQ CW (“CW+”): If you set CONFIG:CW QRQ to ON in the menu, the K3 will provide extremely fast break-in at all CW speeds. It will also allow both the internal keyer and external keying to work at up to 100 WPM. (Be sure to turn on both QSK and VOX.) The “+” mode icon turns on when CW+ is in effect. Tip: You may want to assign the CW QRQ menu entry to a programmable switch function (e.g., PF1) for quick access. This can be done by locating the CW QRQ menu entry, then holding PF1 until you see “PF1 SET”. Note 1: There are limitations to QRQ CW mode at present. You cannot use SHIFT, or turn on RIT, XIT, or SPLIT. However, you can still use splits, in effect, if you have the sub receiver installed: Turn the SUB on, and use VFO B as the receive VFO. (In a subsequent firmware release, RIT/XIT will be usable over a small range in QRQ mode.) Note 2: If you use CONFIG:TX DLY to set external keying delay, you may need to adjust its setting for QRQ CW use. Also, any increase in the default (8 ms) may decrease the maximum available CW speed. * AF BALANCE CONTROL IMPROVED: The SUB AF control can be used as a main/sub RX balance control (see CONFIG: SUB AF). Previously, when the control was rotated fully clockwise, main receiver audio would not be fully turned off. This has been corrected. * ADDED ERROR CODE “ERR RXF”. This message is flashed if you switch to a crystal filter that is too wide for the present settings. For example, ERR RXF will flash if you are in QRQ CW mode and select a filter wider than 2.8 kHz. To correct this, you'll need to turn off wider-bandwidth crystal filters either manually (using CONFIG:FLx ON) or via K3 Utility. * FIXED FSK-D STUCK TONE: Occasionally, sending RTTY using the keyer paddle (FSK-D) would leave sidetone on. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fast break-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
wayne burdick wrote: K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.02 (with DSP rev. 2.60) is now available. See full release notes below. [snip] * 75 BAUD (100 WPM) RTTY SUPPORT: The built-in encoder/decoder (DATA/FSK-D) now supports both 45 and 75 baud. To select the desired rate, hold the DATA MD switch, then rotate VFO A. Has anyone tried the built-in RTTY? When I tried it, I could copy other stations perfectly but no-one would come back to me. Eventually I set up another receiver to see if I could copy it and I found I had to reverse the sideband before I could decode the text. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-Rev-3-57-Synchronous-AM-Detection-AM-S-misc-improvements-tp3983997p5179639.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fast break-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
* 75 BAUD (100 WPM) RTTY SUPPORT: The built-in encoder/decoder (DATA/FSK-D) now supports both 45 and 75 baud. To select the desired rate, hold the DATA MD switch, then rotate VFO A. Has anyone tried the built-in RTTY? When I tried it, I could copy other stations perfectly but no-one would come back to me... I tried it and had no trouble copying using Cocoamodem on a Mac, and MMTTY on a PC, as well as another K3's internal decoder. I sent FSK using MMTTY and a RigExpert Plus interface, and had no trouble copying on the Cocamodem/Mac and on antoehr K3's internal decoder. Might just be a case of the wrong FSK polarity setting in the CONFIG menu? 73, Lyle KK7P - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fast break-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
I just finished to install beta 4.03 and the process was nice and easy,no problems at all,radio works as it supouse to work,now I can send 70 wpm with an extremly fast brake-in,I set the delay at zero and its instantaneous the receiver cuts,I can hear anybody if he brakes me no matter how fasta I could be going,I love it once again Elecraft team did a good job,thanks AD4C If you see a woman handling a cell phone on her hands while she is driving,do please stay away from her.!! --- On Mon, 6/14/10, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fast break-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net, elecraft...@yahoogroups.com, elecr...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 5:02 PM K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.02 (with DSP rev. 2.60) is now available. See full release notes below. The most significant addition is CW+ mode. CW+ provides extremely fast break-in (receive recovery between code elements up to about 70 WPM) as well as VOX CW operation at speeds up to 100 WPM. We added CW+ mode primarily for high-speed (QRQ) operators, but the new, faster break-in applies at slower speeds, as well. Please give it a try. NOTE: There are significant limitations to CW+ mode at present, as described below. Please review them carefully. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 4.03 / DSP 2.60, 6-10-2010 * 75 BAUD (100 WPM) RTTY SUPPORT: The built-in encoder/decoder (DATA/FSK-D) now supports both 45 and 75 baud. To select the desired rate, hold the DATA MD switch, then rotate VFO A. * ULTRA-FAST BREAK-IN AND QRQ CW (“CW+”): If you set CONFIG:CW QRQ to ON in the menu, the K3 will provide extremely fast break-in at all CW speeds. It will also allow both the internal keyer and external keying to work at up to 100 WPM. (Be sure to turn on both QSK and VOX.) The “+” mode icon turns on when CW+ is in effect. Tip: You may want to assign the CW QRQ menu entry to a programmable switch function (e.g., PF1) for quick access. This can be done by locating the CW QRQ menu entry, then holding PF1 until you see “PF1 SET”. Note 1: There are limitations to QRQ CW mode at present. You cannot use SHIFT, or turn on RIT, XIT, or SPLIT. However, you can still use splits, in effect, if you have the sub receiver installed: Turn the SUB on, and use VFO B as the receive VFO. (In a subsequent firmware release, RIT/XIT will be usable over a small range in QRQ mode.) Note 2: If you use CONFIG:TX DLY to set external keying delay, you may need to adjust its setting for QRQ CW use. Also, any increase in the default (8 ms) may decrease the maximum available CW speed. * AF BALANCE CONTROL IMPROVED: The SUB AF control can be used as a main/sub RX balance control (see CONFIG: SUB AF). Previously, when the control was rotated fully clockwise, main receiver audio would not be fully turned off. This has been corrected. * ADDED ERROR CODE “ERR RXF”. This message is flashed if you switch to a crystal filter that is too wide for the present settings. For example, ERR RXF will flash if you are in QRQ CW mode and select a filter wider than 2.8 kHz. To correct this, you'll need to turn off wider-bandwidth crystal filters either manually (using CONFIG:FLx ON) or via K3 Utility. * FIXED FSK-D STUCK TONE: Occasionally, sending RTTY using the keyer paddle (FSK-D) would leave sidetone on. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
From the time of CW key closure to RF, I measure a blistering 7 ms, beating the IC-7700 I measured by a solid 2 ms. It's that kind of transition that makes for super-fast QSK. Well done. Paul, W9AC - Original Message - From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 6:53 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) I just finished to install beta 4.03 and the process was nice and easy,no problems at all,radio works as it supouse to work,now I can send 70 wpm with an extremly fast brake-in,I set the delay at zero and its instantaneous the receiver cuts,I can hear anybody if he brakes me no matter how fasta I could be going,I love it once again Elecraft team did a good job,thanks AD4C If you see a woman handling a cell phone on her hands while she is driving,do please stay away from her.!! --- On Mon, 6/14/10, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fast break-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net, elecraft...@yahoogroups.com, elecr...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 5:02 PM K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.02 (with DSP rev. 2.60) is now available. See full release notes below. The most significant addition is CW+ mode. CW+ provides extremely fast break-in (receive recovery between code elements up to about 70 WPM) as well as VOX CW operation at speeds up to 100 WPM. We added CW+ mode primarily for high-speed (QRQ) operators, but the new, faster break-in applies at slower speeds, as well. Please give it a try. NOTE: There are significant limitations to CW+ mode at present, as described below. Please review them carefully. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 4.03 / DSP 2.60, 6-10-2010 * 75 BAUD (100 WPM) RTTY SUPPORT: The built-in encoder/decoder (DATA/FSK-D) now supports both 45 and 75 baud. To select the desired rate, hold the DATA MD switch, then rotate VFO A. * ULTRA-FAST BREAK-IN AND QRQ CW (“CW+”): If you set CONFIG:CW QRQ to ON in the menu, the K3 will provide extremely fast break-in at all CW speeds. It will also allow both the internal keyer and external keying to work at up to 100 WPM. (Be sure to turn on both QSK and VOX.) The “+” mode icon turns on when CW+ is in effect. Tip: You may want to assign the CW QRQ menu entry to a programmable switch function (e.g., PF1) for quick access. This can be done by locating the CW QRQ menu entry, then holding PF1 until you see “PF1 SET”. Note 1: There are limitations to QRQ CW mode at present. You cannot use SHIFT, or turn on RIT, XIT, or SPLIT. However, you can still use splits, in effect, if you have the sub receiver installed: Turn the SUB on, and use VFO B as the receive VFO. (In a subsequent firmware release, RIT/XIT will be usable over a small range in QRQ mode.) Note 2: If you use CONFIG:TX DLY to set external keying delay, you may need to adjust its setting for QRQ CW use. Also, any increase in the default (8 ms) may decrease the maximum available CW speed. * AF BALANCE CONTROL IMPROVED: The SUB AF control can be used as a main/sub RX balance control (see CONFIG: SUB AF). Previously, when the control was rotated fully clockwise, main receiver audio would not be fully turned off. This has been corrected. * ADDED ERROR CODE “ERR RXF”. This message is flashed if you switch to a crystal filter that is too wide for the present settings. For example, ERR RXF will flash if you are in QRQ CW mode and select a filter wider than 2.8 kHz. To correct this, you'll need to turn off wider-bandwidth crystal filters either manually (using CONFIG:FLx ON) or via K3 Utility. * FIXED FSK-D STUCK TONE: Occasionally, sending RTTY using the keyer paddle (FSK-D) would leave sidetone on. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fast break-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
I tried it over the weekend when the RTTY contest was going on and used FSK for the first time... Was able to get a few to come back to me then had to rush back out and get back to work on the fence... ~Brett (N7MG) On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 15:45 -0700, Julian, G4ILO wrote: Has anyone tried the built-in RTTY? When I tried it, I could copy other stations perfectly but no-one would come back to me. Eventually I set up another receiver to see if I could copy it and I found I had to reverse the sideband before I could decode the text. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
WOW I knew it was fast when I tested but not so fast,I had a QSO with friend of mine who can receive by ears up to 75 and I sent him for few minutes at 70wpm,he said the tone is pure,no keyer clicks at all,the braking was perfect,he interupted me several times while I was sending and I heard him inmediately,it was like be talking on ssb with a very fast vox,thanks again Elecraft. AD4C If you see a woman handling a cell phone on her hands while she is driving,do please stay away from her.!! --- On Mon, 6/14/10, Paul Christensen w...@arrl.net wrote: From: Paul Christensen w...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 11:15 PM From the time of CW key closure to RF, I measure a blistering 7 ms, beating the IC-7700 I measured by a solid 2 ms. It's that kind of transition that makes for super-fast QSK. Well done. Paul, W9AC - Original Message - From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 6:53 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) I just finished to install beta 4.03 and the process was nice and easy,no problems at all,radio works as it supouse to work,now I can send 70 wpm with an extremly fast brake-in,I set the delay at zero and its instantaneous the receiver cuts,I can hear anybody if he brakes me no matter how fasta I could be going,I love it once again Elecraft team did a good job,thanks AD4C If you see a woman handling a cell phone on her hands while she is driving,do please stay away from her.!! --- On Mon, 6/14/10, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fast break-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net, elecraft...@yahoogroups.com, elecr...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 5:02 PM K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.02 (with DSP rev. 2.60) is now available. See full release notes below. The most significant addition is CW+ mode. CW+ provides extremely fast break-in (receive recovery between code elements up to about 70 WPM) as well as VOX CW operation at speeds up to 100 WPM. We added CW+ mode primarily for high-speed (QRQ) operators, but the new, faster break-in applies at slower speeds, as well. Please give it a try. NOTE: There are significant limitations to CW+ mode at present, as described below. Please review them carefully. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 4.03 / DSP 2.60, 6-10-2010 * 75 BAUD (100 WPM) RTTY SUPPORT: The built-in encoder/decoder (DATA/FSK-D) now supports both 45 and 75 baud. To select the desired rate, hold the DATA MD switch, then rotate VFO A. * ULTRA-FAST BREAK-IN AND QRQ CW (“CW+”): If you set CONFIG:CW QRQ to ON in the menu, the K3 will provide extremely fast break-in at all CW speeds. It will also allow both the internal keyer and external keying to work at up to 100 WPM. (Be sure to turn on both QSK and VOX.) The “+” mode icon turns on when CW+ is in effect. Tip: You may want to assign the CW QRQ menu entry to a programmable switch function (e.g., PF1) for quick access. This can be done by locating the CW QRQ menu entry, then holding PF1 until you see “PF1 SET”. Note 1: There are limitations to QRQ CW mode at present. You cannot use SHIFT, or turn on RIT, XIT, or SPLIT. However, you can still use splits, in effect, if you have the sub receiver installed: Turn the SUB on, and use VFO B as the receive VFO. (In a subsequent firmware release, RIT/XIT will be usable over a small range in QRQ mode.) Note 2: If you use CONFIG:TX DLY to set external keying delay, you may need to adjust its setting for QRQ CW use. Also, any increase in the default (8 ms) may decrease the maximum available CW speed. * AF BALANCE CONTROL IMPROVED: The SUB AF control can be used as a main/sub RX balance control (see CONFIG: SUB AF). Previously, when the control was rotated fully clockwise, main receiver audio would not be fully turned off. This has been corrected. * ADDED ERROR CODE “ERR RXF”. This message is flashed if you switch to a crystal filter that is too wide for the present settings. For example, ERR RXF will flash if you are in QRQ CW mode and select a filter wider than 2.8 kHz. To correct this, you'll need to turn off wider-bandwidth crystal filters either manually (using CONFIG:FLx ON) or via K3 Utility. * FIXED FSK-D STUCK TONE: Occasionally, sending RTTY using the keyer paddle (FSK-D) would leave sidetone on. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fast break-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
I use the cw to rtty all the time, here in KH6. However, I have not found anyone using thge 75wpm..few sigs get out here. If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm AFA9SM USSV DHARMA --- On Mon, 6/14/10, Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com wrote: From: Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fast break-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) To: Julian, G4ILO julian.g4...@gmail.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 12:50 PM * 75 BAUD (100 WPM) RTTY SUPPORT: The built-in encoder/decoder (DATA/FSK-D) now supports both 45 and 75 baud. To select the desired rate, hold the DATA MD switch, then rotate VFO A. Has anyone tried the built-in RTTY? When I tried it, I could copy other stations perfectly but no-one would come back to me... I tried it and had no trouble copying using Cocoamodem on a Mac, and MMTTY on a PC, as well as another K3's internal decoder. I sent FSK using MMTTY and a RigExpert Plus interface, and had no trouble copying on the Cocamodem/Mac and on antoehr K3's internal decoder. Might just be a case of the wrong FSK polarity setting in the CONFIG menu? 73, Lyle KK7P - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
Heh. The new QSK is so fast it picks up bounce on the Dah contact on my Vibroplex, hi hi. Zowie 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-Rev-3-57-Synchronous-AM-Detection-AM-S-misc-improvements-tp3983997p5180105.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware ??
Guys, I'm a very new K3 owner, is the recent K3 Beta Firmware something a newbie should be loading in ? or is this for the crew who enjoys testing the release and looking for bugs ? The enhancements sound great but should I wait for the next regular firmware release ? Tnx, John R. KW2JR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware ??
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:17:25 -0400, Russo, John jpru...@buffalo.edu wrote: By the time beta software announcements get to the list they have already been tested by some of us, so go ahead and try them out. If you find what you believe to be a bug, tell Elecraft about it. They are always ready to help if you can't find the solution on the list. TOM, N5GE BT 73 ES GUD LUK AR DE N5GE SK http://www.n5ge.com Guys, I'm a very new K3 owner, is the recent K3 Beta Firmware something a newbie should be loading in ? or is this for the crew who enjoys testing the release and looking for bugs ? The enhancements sound great but should I wait for the next regular firmware release ? Tnx, John R. KW2JR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware ??
On 4/23/2010 11:17 AM, Russo, John wrote: I'm a very new K3 owner, is the recent K3 Beta Firmware something a newbie should be loading in ? or is this for the crew who enjoys testing the release and looking for bugs ? The enhancements sound great but should I wait for the next regular firmware release ? Load the beta version. The field testers and others have beaten on it, and it has a lot of new stuff -- including bug fixes! You can always go back to an old version if there were to be a 'show stopper', but there won't be. Elecraft is very cautious about what they call 'beta', unlike some software developers. -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware ??
Elecraft has a very large field and alpha test list that beats up on stuff before it ever shows up as Beta. For me keeping up with the beta's has been good. 73, Guy. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Russo, John jpru...@buffalo.edu wrote: Guys, I'm a very new K3 owner, is the recent K3 Beta Firmware something a newbie should be loading in ? or is this for the crew who enjoys testing the release and looking for bugs ? The enhancements sound great but should I wait for the next regular firmware release ? Tnx, John R. KW2JR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware ??
I'd say the usual cautions apply. Load it if it has new features or fixes that you need or want to play with, otherwise it's probably not necessary. I'm mostly interested in a particular bug but I might also try to play with some of the newer features at some point. I'm just a regular customer and not setup to be a proper field tester, tho, so my contribution will be pretty limited. But it is neat that you can still participate in the process. Try that with the FWs of any other rigs hi hi. 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-tp4951996p4952824.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.94: Enhancements to RX TX EQ, European FM repeater operation, etc.
K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.94 (with DSP rev. 2.54) is now available. See release notes below for details. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * New Features: * SEPARATE RECEIVE EQ FOR CW MODE: To set up CW RX EQ, select CW mode, then use MAIN:RX EQ. To set up voice-mode RX EQ, select any non-CW mode except DATA. (Mode can be changed while in the menu.) * SEPARATE TRANSMIT EQ FOR SSB MODE: The SSB transmit passband can now be set up differently from AM/FM/ESSB. To set up SSB TX EQ, select USB or LSB with ESSB off, then use MAIN:TX EQ. To set up AM/FM/ESSB TX EQ, select AM, FM, or USB/LSB with ESSB on. (To turn ESSB on/off, tap ‘1’ in CONFIG:TX ESSB. When ON ,the “+” mode icon appears.) Also see TE command, below. * TRANSMIT EQ SETUP COMMAND (TE): Can be used in switch macros (or software applications) to quickly optimize TX EQ settings for different users or mics. For example, “TE-08+00+00+00+00+00+00+00;” cuts the 50-Hz EQ band by 8 dB. Changes related to European FM and Repeater Operation: * 12.5 AND 25 KHZ VFO INCREMENTS (FOR EU REPEATERS): Added 12.5 kHz and 25 kHz step sizes in FM mode. To specify step size, select FM mode, then use the CONFIG:VFO CRS menu entry. * SQUELCH-CONTROLLED 1750-HZ PL TONE: Some EU repeaters require a 1750- Hz PL tone burst to open. Previously, an 0.5-second burst was generated at the start of each transmission. Now, this tone is only generated if squelch is not already open. The squelch-controlled PL tone feature can be turned off by setting the PITCH parameter to PL OFF. With either the PL TONE or PL OFF setting, the operator can still do manual PL tone burst as described in the next item. * MANUALLY CONTROLLED 1750-HZ PL TONE: The operator can now generate a variable-length tone burst at any time while transmitting by holding PITCH switch. * PL TONE DEVIATION RANGE CHANGED: The deviation range for the 1750-Hz PL tone is now 1.5 to 6.0 kHz. The default, 3.6 kHz, is about 70% of 5 kHz, as recommended for many EU repeaters. The deviation for sub-audible tones is now stored separately and has a range of 150-600 Hz (default 360 Hz). Other Changes: * Full support for P3 Panadapter. Allows very fast K3-to-P3 response during VFO movement, etc. * K3 Memory Editor: This revision of K3 firmware works with our new K3 Memory Editor (Not yet released. Presently PC/Windows-only, but may eventually work on other platforms.) The memory editor will allow you to edit frequency memories 00-99 and, if desired, per-band quick memories (M1-M4). Each memory includes a “QSY” button, providing convenient memory selection. Memory contents can be saved in a file and shared with other K3 users. Further details to be posted elsewhere. * MEMORY CHANNEL COMMAND (MC): This new remote-control command was created in support of the K3 Memory Editor (see above). Sending an MC command to the K3 loads VFOs from a memory (or “channel”), emulating MV. It can be used in switch macros. Examples: “MC080;” loads memory #80. “MC100;” loads 160-m quick-memory M1. (For details on creating macros, refer to K3 Utility Help or the K3 Programmer’s Reference.) For software developers: * See TE and MC commands, above. * TEXT BUFFER COMMAND (TB): This is an improvement over the “TT1” method for implementing a CW/data terminal. Returns number of transmit characters from KYtext packets remaining to be sent, as well as a string containing all available characters, and RX character count. * Fixed KYtext problem in PSK-D/FSK-D modes: Sending packets during the 4-second idle time was delaying transmit until end of idle time. * Now recognizing a slashed-zero character from the PC keyboard (0xD8) in KYtext packets.Converted to regular zero. * IC COMMAND: Added CONFIG:MEM 0-9 setting (byte a, bit 1). * NOISE BLANKER LEVEL CONTROL: Added NL and NL$ commands to remotely set DSP and IF blanker levels for main and sub receivers. Refer to the K3 Programmer’s Reference, revision C10 or later. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.77: Diversity receive main/sub VFO offset fixed, etc.
K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.77 (with DSP rev. 2.53) is now available. This revision corrects a possible frequency offset between the main and sub receivers in diversity mode. With earlier firmware, a small offset can sometimes be introduced if you adjust the VFO A frequency or RIT offset while transmitting. See release notes below for details on other changes. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 3.77 / DSP 2.53, 2-27-2010 * DIVERSITY MODE MAIN/SUB RECEIVER OFFSET FIXED: In some cases a small frequency offset between the main and sub receiver could be introduced due to transmitting while moving VFO A or the RIT offset. * SUB RECEIVER BAND-PASS FILTER SWITCHING FIXED: If the main and sub receivers were configured for independent band selection (CONFIG:VFO IND = YES), switching the main receiver to any of 17-10 m may have caused an incorrect band-pass filter to be selected for the sub receiver. * SYNTHESIZER TABLES UPDATED: Reduces the DDS tuning range slightly to minimize group delay through the DDS crystal filter. (These tables are located in the “HFPF0108” file, part of the firmware download package. It will be loaded automatically if you check send all files to K3.) * AFX “BIN” MODE FIX: Stability improvement for the “BIN” audio effect (selected by MAIN:AFX). Previously, a loud audio artifact could occur under certain receive-signal circumstances. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.66: AF output protection
Both 3.66 and 3.67 appear to be available as Beta downloads. I haven't yet installed 3.66. Should I skip it and move on to 3.67? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK - Original Message - From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.66: AF output protection K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.66 (with DSP rev. 2.48) is now available. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.66: AF output protection
Take the latest one out there. Wayne advances the version for cause. 73, Guy. On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Geoffrey Downs geoff...@downs.globalnet.co.uk wrote: Both 3.66 and 3.67 appear to be available as Beta downloads. I haven't yet installed 3.66. Should I skip it and move on to 3.67? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK - Original Message - From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.66: AF output protection K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.66 (with DSP rev. 2.48) is now available. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.68: Changes applicable to AGC OFF
K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.68 (with DSP rev. 2.49) is now available. This revision primarily affects those who turn AGC off. In the previous beta release (3.66), the new AF output protection feature was a bit too aggressive in the AGC OFF case, causing the audio output to occasionally become muted. The threshold has been moved up so that this shouldn't happen. If you turn AGC OFF, you should also set up the AF limiter (CONFIG:AF LIM). (This limiter has no effect when AGC is on.) Recommended values are 18-24. Some experimentation will be necessary due to differences in headphones and user preference. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.66: AF output protection
K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.66 (with DSP rev. 2.48) is now available. AF Output Protection: The DSP now senses when AF output would be so strong as to drive the speaker or headphone amplifier into the clipping range. If this happens, AF is muted until you reduce signal levels, protecting your ears (and transducers). Normally, this will only happen if you turn off AGC while an extremely strong signal is present. If you hear the receiver mute under these circumstances, simply reduce gain by some means (back down RF GAIN, turn off the preamp, turn on the attenuator, or turn AGC ON). Another possible source of excessive audio is a DSP numeric overrange. DSP code has been changed to eliminate such cases, and we've had over 100 K3 users field-testing this new code with no reported AF anomalies. But the new AF output protection is always in effect, so it acts as a backup. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.66: AF output protection
That's a great feature; can't wait to try this out at home. I've been deafened more than once by accidentally turning off the AGC! Thanks Wayne and crew. James K2QI On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.66 (with DSP rev. 2.48) is now available. AF Output Protection: The DSP now senses when AF output would be so strong as to drive the speaker or headphone amplifier into the clipping range. If this happens, AF is muted until you reduce signal levels, protecting your ears (and transducers). Normally, this will only happen if you turn off AGC while an extremely strong signal is present. If you hear the receiver mute under these circumstances, simply reduce gain by some means (back down RF GAIN, turn off the preamp, turn on the attenuator, or turn AGC ON). Another possible source of excessive audio is a DSP numeric overrange. DSP code has been changed to eliminate such cases, and we've had over 100 K3 users field-testing this new code with no reported AF anomalies. But the new AF output protection is always in effect, so it acts as a backup. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- 73 de James K2QI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.66: AF output protection
WorksSounds like an old time telegraph sounder clicking away. Is there any means to disable it in the menu? Before, with AGC off, a static pulse would hit and just produce a distorted click but I could still copy cw. Now it completely blanks out everything. I'm not too sure I like this feature. Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: James Sarte k2qi@gmail.com To: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com; Elecraft Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.66: AF output protection That's a great feature; can't wait to try this out at home. I've been deafened more than once by accidentally turning off the AGC! Thanks Wayne and crew. James K2QI On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.66 (with DSP rev. 2.48) is now available. AF Output Protection: The DSP now senses when AF output would be so strong as to drive the speaker or headphone amplifier into the clipping range. If this happens, AF is muted until you reduce signal levels, protecting your ears (and transducers). Normally, this will only happen if you turn off AGC while an extremely strong signal is present. If you hear the receiver mute under these circumstances, simply reduce gain by some means (back down RF GAIN, turn off the preamp, turn on the attenuator, or turn AGC ON). Another possible source of excessive audio is a DSP numeric overrange. DSP code has been changed to eliminate such cases, and we've had over 100 K3 users field-testing this new code with no reported AF anomalies. But the new AF output protection is always in effect, so it acts as a backup. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- 73 de James K2QI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.66: AF output protection
That's why it's a beta release :) We're seeking additional input on this revision and will make an adjustment to the behavior ASAP. tnx Wayne On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Steve Ellington wrote: WorksSounds like an old time telegraph sounder clicking away. Is there any means to disable it in the menu? Before, with AGC off, a static pulse would hit and just produce a distorted click but I could still copy cw. Now it completely blanks out everything. I'm not too sure I like this feature. Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.59: Misc. improvements
In 3.59 -- Sync AM listening to music on HF BC, the sync search usually kicks in and resettles at the bottom of a carrier fadeout, which will almost always involve a near 180 degree phase shift at the bottom. The transition is MUCH better than 3.58 for listening to music, the one or two cycle woop neatly blending into the other spectral changes at the bottom of the fade, MINUS the no-carrier distortion. I found myself enjoying a story reading on 7440 (?, didn't write it down) where using the shift to listen on the upper side got rid of some grindy stuff on low side, and the considerable fades were handled. -Nice- :) On the firmware loads... Standard advice if any firmware load issues, on PC shut down all programs except the utility, do nothing else when loading firmware. Do NOT try to load firmware with the download as a virtual directory. If the utility starts up funny, takes too long, or comes up on 9k serial speed, kill it and restart it. When the utility comes up quick and clean, start the firmware, get up and take a break. Leave PC alone, don't touch, no browsing, no mouse moves. When it's done, kill the utility, power off the K3 for at least 15 seconds. THEN power on and see how it's working. Various occasional wierdness has ceased since rigidly sticking to this policy. Windows has always been hostile to timing sensitive hardware drivers and utilities. 73, Guy. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.59 (with DSP rev. 2.46) is now available. See release notes below. Rev. 3.59 does _not_ include any changes to DVR message playback and cancel. These are still in the works and will be made available in time for the phone contest this weekend. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 3.59 / DSP 2.46, 11-18-2009 * FSK-D WAS CHANGING TO AFSK-A ON A/B or REV: Fixed. * SYNC AM VFO TRACKING ACCURACY IMPROVED (DSP 2.46). The offset contributed by the synchronous AM detector's PLL should be only a few Hz, max. * SWR INDICATOR TONES AFTER ATU TUNE: If switch tones are enabled, a second tone will be emitted following an ATU TUNE. This tone provides a rough idea of the SWR that the KAT3 was able to obtain: Lower pitch than 1st tone: Unknown SWR (ant. may be shorted) Same pitch as 1st tone: SWR = 2.0:1 Medium-high pitch: SWR = 3.0:1 High pitch: SWR 3.0:1. This feature was added primarily for our blind customers, but it’s useful whenever you tap ATU TUNE without looking at the final SWR reading. Remote Control Command Changes: * IC COMMAND (ICON status): Now returning correct message bank in voice modes (byte a, bit 3). __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.59: Misc. improvements
The K3 Utility reads each .hex file into RAM (and validates it there) before starting to send it to the K3. If the file is unreadable because of a network glitch, we want to discover that before beginning a firmware load. This was fixed almost a year ago. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Guy Olinger K2AV Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:41 AM To: Wayne Burdick Cc: Elecraft Reflector; elecraft...@yahoogroups.com; elecr...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.59: Misc. improvements In 3.59 -- Sync AM listening to music on HF BC, the sync search usually kicks in and resettles at the bottom of a carrier fadeout, which will almost always involve a near 180 degree phase shift at the bottom. The transition is MUCH better than 3.58 for listening to music, the one or two cycle woop neatly blending into the other spectral changes at the bottom of the fade, MINUS the no-carrier distortion. I found myself enjoying a story reading on 7440 (?, didn't write it down) where using the shift to listen on the upper side got rid of some grindy stuff on low side, and the considerable fades were handled. -Nice- :) On the firmware loads... Standard advice if any firmware load issues, on PC shut down all programs except the utility, do nothing else when loading firmware. Do NOT try to load firmware with the download as a virtual directory. If the utility starts up funny, takes too long, or comes up on 9k serial speed, kill it and restart it. When the utility comes up quick and clean, start the firmware, get up and take a break. Leave PC alone, don't touch, no browsing, no mouse moves. When it's done, kill the utility, power off the K3 for at least 15 seconds. THEN power on and see how it's working. Various occasional wierdness has ceased since rigidly sticking to this policy. Windows has always been hostile to timing sensitive hardware drivers and utilities. 73, Guy. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.59 (with DSP rev. 2.46) is now available. See release notes below. Rev. 3.59 does _not_ include any changes to DVR message playback and cancel. These are still in the works and will be made available in time for the phone contest this weekend. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 3.59 / DSP 2.46, 11-18-2009 * FSK-D WAS CHANGING TO AFSK-A ON A/B or REV: Fixed. * SYNC AM VFO TRACKING ACCURACY IMPROVED (DSP 2.46). The offset contributed by the synchronous AM detector's PLL should be only a few Hz, max. * SWR INDICATOR TONES AFTER ATU TUNE: If switch tones are enabled, a second tone will be emitted following an ATU TUNE. This tone provides a rough idea of the SWR that the KAT3 was able to obtain: Lower pitch than 1st tone: Unknown SWR (ant. may be shorted) Same pitch as 1st tone: SWR = 2.0:1 Medium-high pitch: SWR = 3.0:1 High pitch: SWR 3.0:1. This feature was added primarily for our blind customers, but it's useful whenever you tap ATU TUNE without looking at the final SWR reading. Remote Control Command Changes: * IC COMMAND (ICON status): Now returning correct message bank in voice modes (byte a, bit 3). __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.59: Misc. improvements
My take on this would be that although the PC copy of the file is fine, that Winders is glitching the send from the PC to the K3 by not paying rapt attention to the one and only timing dependent app running at the time, and somehow dropping stuff. The procedure previously outlined has kept firmware loads pristine. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net wrote: The K3 Utility reads each .hex file into RAM (and validates it there) before starting to send it to the K3. If the file is unreadable because of a network glitch, we want to discover that before beginning a firmware load. This was fixed almost a year ago. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Guy Olinger K2AV Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:41 AM To: Wayne Burdick Cc: Elecraft Reflector; elecraft...@yahoogroups.com; elecr...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.59: Misc. improvements In 3.59 -- Sync AM listening to music on HF BC, the sync search usually kicks in and resettles at the bottom of a carrier fadeout, which will almost always involve a near 180 degree phase shift at the bottom. The transition is MUCH better than 3.58 for listening to music, the one or two cycle woop neatly blending into the other spectral changes at the bottom of the fade, MINUS the no-carrier distortion. I found myself enjoying a story reading on 7440 (?, didn't write it down) where using the shift to listen on the upper side got rid of some grindy stuff on low side, and the considerable fades were handled. -Nice- :) On the firmware loads... Standard advice if any firmware load issues, on PC shut down all programs except the utility, do nothing else when loading firmware. Do NOT try to load firmware with the download as a virtual directory. If the utility starts up funny, takes too long, or comes up on 9k serial speed, kill it and restart it. When the utility comes up quick and clean, start the firmware, get up and take a break. Leave PC alone, don't touch, no browsing, no mouse moves. When it's done, kill the utility, power off the K3 for at least 15 seconds. THEN power on and see how it's working. Various occasional wierdness has ceased since rigidly sticking to this policy. Windows has always been hostile to timing sensitive hardware drivers and utilities. 73, Guy. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.59 (with DSP rev. 2.46) is now available. See release notes below. Rev. 3.59 does _not_ include any changes to DVR message playback and cancel. These are still in the works and will be made available in time for the phone contest this weekend. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 3.59 / DSP 2.46, 11-18-2009 * FSK-D WAS CHANGING TO AFSK-A ON A/B or REV: Fixed. * SYNC AM VFO TRACKING ACCURACY IMPROVED (DSP 2.46). The offset contributed by the synchronous AM detector's PLL should be only a few Hz, max. * SWR INDICATOR TONES AFTER ATU TUNE: If switch tones are enabled, a second tone will be emitted following an ATU TUNE. This tone provides a rough idea of the SWR that the KAT3 was able to obtain: Lower pitch than 1st tone: Unknown SWR (ant. may be shorted) Same pitch as 1st tone: SWR = 2.0:1 Medium-high pitch: SWR = 3.0:1 High pitch: SWR 3.0:1. This feature was added primarily for our blind customers, but it's useful whenever you tap ATU TUNE without looking at the final SWR reading. Remote Control Command Changes: * IC COMMAND (ICON status): Now returning correct message bank in voice modes (byte a, bit 3). __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.59: Misc. improvements
K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.59 (with DSP rev. 2.46) is now available. See release notes below. Rev. 3.59 does _not_ include any changes to DVR message playback and cancel. These are still in the works and will be made available in time for the phone contest this weekend. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 3.59 / DSP 2.46, 11-18-2009 * FSK-D WAS CHANGING TO AFSK-A ON A/B or REV: Fixed. * SYNC AM VFO TRACKING ACCURACY IMPROVED (DSP 2.46). The offset contributed by the synchronous AM detector's PLL should be only a few Hz, max. * SWR INDICATOR TONES AFTER ATU TUNE: If switch tones are enabled, a second tone will be emitted following an ATU TUNE. This tone provides a rough idea of the SWR that the KAT3 was able to obtain: Lower pitch than 1st tone: Unknown SWR (ant. may be shorted) Same pitch as 1st tone: SWR = 2.0:1 Medium-high pitch: SWR = 3.0:1 High pitch: SWR 3.0:1. This feature was added primarily for our blind customers, but it’s useful whenever you tap ATU TUNE without looking at the final SWR reading. Remote Control Command Changes: * IC COMMAND (ICON status): Now returning correct message bank in voice modes (byte a, bit 3). __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.57: Synchronous AM Detection (AM-S); misc. improvements
Hi Wayne This was one of the features that I 'really' wanted in the K3 and I am so pleased it works so well.. Enjoying my SW listening all the more now Thanks! 73 John VE3NFK wayne burdick wrote: K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.57 (with DSP rev. 2.45) is now available. This revision includes Synchronous AM detection, which has a clear advantage over the regular AM detector during selective fading. In this mode, the K3 can optionally track AM stations that may be slightly mistuned, as you might find in an AM round-table on 75 m. It's also convenient for automatically zeroing in on AM broadcast stations. There are other considerations when using Synch AM, so you should read the release notes (below) before trying it. We'll be further refining our AM-S implementation in a later release, based on your feedback. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 3.57 / DSP 2.45, 11-7-2009 Misc. Improvements: * TUNE SWITCH: “Double beep” with NR on eliminated. * DATA A: Loss of power when using TUNE corrected. New Feature: Synchronous AM Receive * SYNCHRONOUS AM: Outperforms regular AM during selective fading. Provides optional automatic VFO tracking of AM signals up to +/- 2.5 kHz. Select AM mode, then hold ALT to select AM-S. The -S icon flashes slowly if the signal is noisy. Select AM-S LSB or USB using SHIFT; one of the two sidebands may reduce QRM. Sync AM also works with diversity receive. (Note: Some AM broadcast stations encode their carrier, resulting in a low-pitched noise when Sync AM is turned on.) With Sync AM you can tune manually, or use automatic VFO tracking: -- If tuning manually, you need to tune to within +/- 10 Hz of the actual carrier frequency, at which point the K3 will phase-lock to the carrier. -- To enable VFO tracking, tap CWT, which turns on the T icon. Or, tap SPOT to engage VFO tracking just long enough to lock. When tracking is on, the VFO may “hunt” slowly across a span of several Hz. IMPORTANT: For AM QSOs, use SPLIT mode when VFO tracking is turned on. VFO B (TX) will remain fixed while VFO A tracks RX signals. Limitations: At present, VFO B cannot auto-tune in AM-S. Also, both VFOs will always be in the same mode (AM-S LSB or USB). Remote Control Command Changes: * UP0/DN0/UP$0/DN$0 moves VFOs 1 Hz. Similarly, UP8 and UP9 move the VFOs by 100 and 200 Hz, respectively. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-Rev-3-57-Synchronous-AM-Detection-AM-S-misc-improvements-tp3983997p3990331.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.57: Synchronous AM Detection (AM-S); misc. improvements
K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.57 (with DSP rev. 2.45) is now available. This revision includes Synchronous AM detection, which has a clear advantage over the regular AM detector during selective fading. In this mode, the K3 can optionally track AM stations that may be slightly mistuned, as you might find in an AM round-table on 75 m. It's also convenient for automatically zeroing in on AM broadcast stations. There are other considerations when using Synch AM, so you should read the release notes (below) before trying it. We'll be further refining our AM-S implementation in a later release, based on your feedback. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 3.57 / DSP 2.45, 11-7-2009 Misc. Improvements: * TUNE SWITCH: “Double beep” with NR on eliminated. * DATA A: Loss of power when using TUNE corrected. New Feature: Synchronous AM Receive * SYNCHRONOUS AM: Outperforms regular AM during selective fading. Provides optional automatic VFO tracking of AM signals up to +/- 2.5 kHz. Select AM mode, then hold ALT to select AM-S. The -S icon flashes slowly if the signal is noisy. Select AM-S LSB or USB using SHIFT; one of the two sidebands may reduce QRM. Sync AM also works with diversity receive. (Note: Some AM broadcast stations encode their carrier, resulting in a low-pitched noise when Sync AM is turned on.) With Sync AM you can tune manually, or use automatic VFO tracking: -- If tuning manually, you need to tune to within +/- 10 Hz of the actual carrier frequency, at which point the K3 will phase-lock to the carrier. -- To enable VFO tracking, tap CWT, which turns on the T icon. Or, tap SPOT to engage VFO tracking just long enough to lock. When tracking is on, the VFO may “hunt” slowly across a span of several Hz. IMPORTANT: For AM QSOs, use SPLIT mode when VFO tracking is turned on. VFO B (TX) will remain fixed while VFO A tracks RX signals. Limitations: At present, VFO B cannot auto-tune in AM-S. Also, both VFOs will always be in the same mode (AM-S LSB or USB). Remote Control Command Changes: * UP0/DN0/UP$0/DN$0 moves VFOs 1 Hz. Similarly, UP8 and UP9 move the VFOs by 100 and 200 Hz, respectively. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.57: Synchronous AM Detection (AM-S); misc. improvements
I tried this out tonight; WWV on 10 and 5 MHz; found that at this time, Synchronous USB was better than LSB, and using CWT to auto-track showed as much as 7 Hz offset in tracking. It was very interesting and I look forward to using it more for SWL in tough conditions. Thanks! 73 de Dave, W5SV Wayne Burdick wrote: K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.57 (with DSP rev. 2.45) is now available. This revision includes Synchronous AM detection, which has a clear advantage over the regular AM detector during selective fading. In this mode, the K3 can optionally track AM stations that may be slightly mistuned, as you might find in an AM round-table on 75 m. It's also convenient for automatically zeroing in on AM broadcast stations. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.57: Synchronous AM Detection (AM-S); misc. improvements
I have been using the Sync tonight on several AM SW stations. I have had very good results so far. Depending on the QRM the USB LSB do make a great difference. I have been waiting for this feature! Thanks, Rick -- KJ5QY wayne burdick wrote: K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.57 (with DSP rev. 2.45) is now available. This revision includes Synchronous AM detection, which has a clear advantage over the regular AM detector during selective fading. In this mode, the K3 can optionally track AM stations that may be slightly mistuned, as you might find in an AM round-table on 75 m. It's also convenient for automatically zeroing in on AM broadcast stations. There are other considerations when using Synch AM, so you should read the release notes (below) before trying it. We'll be further refining our AM-S implementation in a later release, based on your feedback. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 3.57 / DSP 2.45, 11-7-2009 Misc. Improvements: * TUNE SWITCH: “Double beep” with NR on eliminated. * DATA A: Loss of power when using TUNE corrected. New Feature: Synchronous AM Receive * SYNCHRONOUS AM: Outperforms regular AM during selective fading. Provides optional automatic VFO tracking of AM signals up to +/- 2.5 kHz. Select AM mode, then hold ALT to select AM-S. The -S icon flashes slowly if the signal is noisy. Select AM-S LSB or USB using SHIFT; one of the two sidebands may reduce QRM. Sync AM also works with diversity receive. (Note: Some AM broadcast stations encode their carrier, resulting in a low-pitched noise when Sync AM is turned on.) With Sync AM you can tune manually, or use automatic VFO tracking: -- If tuning manually, you need to tune to within +/- 10 Hz of the actual carrier frequency, at which point the K3 will phase-lock to the carrier. -- To enable VFO tracking, tap CWT, which turns on the T icon. Or, tap SPOT to engage VFO tracking just long enough to lock. When tracking is on, the VFO may “hunt” slowly across a span of several Hz. IMPORTANT: For AM QSOs, use SPLIT mode when VFO tracking is turned on. VFO B (TX) will remain fixed while VFO A tracks RX signals. Limitations: At present, VFO B cannot auto-tune in AM-S. Also, both VFOs will always be in the same mode (AM-S LSB or USB). Remote Control Command Changes: * UP0/DN0/UP$0/DN$0 moves VFOs 1 Hz. Similarly, UP8 and UP9 move the VFOs by 100 and 200 Hz, respectively. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-Rev-3-57-Synchronous-AM-Detection-AM-S-misc-improvements-tp3983997p3984659.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.52: Switch Customization (e.g. SPLIT+2); Main/Sub AF Mixing
K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.52 (with DSP rev. 2.43) is now available. See full release notes below. This revision allows you to automate often-used switch sequences using switch macros. For example, you could create a SPLIT+2 function that, with a single switch press, does AB twice, enters SPLIT, and moves VFO B up 2 kHz. Many other custom functions can be created. For more examples and complete instructions, see K3 Utility's Help information, or pages 4 5 of the latest K3 Programmer's Reference: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Pgmr%27s_Ref_Rev_C6.pdf Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm IMPORTANT You must use the latest revision of K3 Utility to use switch macros. Revision 1.2.10.27 can be found on the K3 Software page. The PC and Mac versions are ready now; we expect to have the Linux version ready shortly. If you previously created macros using K3 field-test firmware, you'll need to re-save your macros from the new version of K3 Utility, after loading new firmware. 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 3.52 / DSP 2.43 / K3 Utility 1.2.10.27, 10-28-2009 Misc. Improvements: * Eliminated some audio artifacts noted during control changes. * Eliminated interruption of transmitted CW signal when certain switches were tapped, including RIT, during external keying. * VFO LOCK PREVENTS COARSE STEPS VIA OFFSET CONTROL: Normally, you can use the RIT/XIT offset control to move VFO A in coarse steps if (1) RIT and XIT are both turned off, and (2) CONFIG:VFO OFS is set to ON. Now, these conditions are overridden if the VFO is locked. * AUTO-NOTCH IN SSB MODE EASIER TO TURN ON/OFF: The NTCH switch now behaves differently in SSB mode. Tapping it turns auto notch on-off, rather than cycling through off-auto-manual notch. (To turn on manual notch in SSB mode, hold the NTCH/MANUAL switch.) New Feature: Main/Sub AF Mixing Menu Entry * AUDIO MIXING CONTROL ADDED: Normally, main receiver audio is heard in the left audio channel, and sub in the right. Using the CONFIG:L-MIX-R menu entry, you can now put main in both channels while leaving sub in only one (or vice-versa, or even put both receivers in both channels). Another benefit of this change is that AFX (audio effects) can be used even while the sub receiver is turned on. (AFX, if turned on, will apply to any receiver whose audio is mapped both left and right.) Notes: Applies only to non-diversity mode use of the sub receiver. (In diversity mode, left/right differentiation is maximized for best results.) You’ll need stereo headphones or speakers to listen to stereo separation and audio effects. Set CONFIG:SPKRS to 2 if using stereo speakers. (Headphones will always work with stereo material unless SPKRS is set to 1 *and* CONFIG:SPKR+PH is set to ON.) New Feature: User-Defined Switch Functions (e.g., “SPLIT+2”) * SWITCH MACROS: You can now program the K3’s PF1-2 and M1-M4 switches to execute K3 remote control sequences, or “macros.” They are created and tested using K3 Utility (rev. 1.2.10.26 or later). Once macros are finished, you can send them to the K3, where they can be assigned to any programmable function switch. The K3 Programmer’s Reference, revision C6, has a number of sample macros and further details. Example: AB, AB, SPLIT, VFO B up 2 kHz, RIT/XIT off, assigned to PF1 To create a macro and assign it to a K3 front panel switch, you’ll need to complete steps 1-8 below. Once you’ve been through the process one time, you’ll find creating or modifying macros very easy. 1. Run K3 Utility. 2. Click on the Command Tester/K3 Macros tab. 3. Click on the Edit Macros button. This pops up the macro edit window. 4. In MACRO 1’s Macro Label field, enter the label “SPLIT+2”. 5. In the Macro Commands field, enter: SWT13;SWT13;FT1;UPB5;RT0;XT0; (The number 5 in the “UPB5” command is not a value in kHz; it is an index into a table of step sizes. UPB5 moves VFO B up 2 kHz, DNB5 moves it down 2 kHz, etc. There are similar commands for VFO A. For the full list, see the “DN” (down) command in the Programmer’s Reference.) 6. Click on Send Macros 1-8 To K3. 7. At the K3, locate CONFIG:MACRO x menu entry, and tap ‘1’ if the menu entry label is not already “MACRO 1”. 8. Hold PF1 to assign PF1 to MACRO 1. Exit the menu. From then on, PF1 will flash “SPLIT+2” and execute the above sequence. Note: M1-M4 cannot be used simultaneously for both message play and macros. To revert an Mx switch back to message play, first switch to CW mode, then tap Mx, tap REC, and tap Mx again. This will also restore message play for DVR purposes (voice modes). Remote Control Command Changes: * MP COMMAND ACCESS ADDED TO: LCD ADJ, LCD BRT, LED BRT. This allows creation of a switch macro that does LCD DIM/BRT, for example. You can also use MP to control the new Main/Sub Mix menu entry. See K3 Programmer’s
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
My K3 #3408 was shipped with v. 3.27. I don't know if it is a release version or beta. I can't find it on the site anywhere. When I tried to load v. 3.30 my rig locked up. They claim I have a bad KIO3 board and sent me another about a week ago so it's about half way here. It took 14 days for my K3 to get here. Six days of that time it sat in Canadian Customs then Canada Post had it for another six days. This makes the US Postal Service look pretty good! -Robby VY2SS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
#3539 came with 3.30. AFAICT, it was flawless, but then I don't yet know most of what the K3 can do. I'm sure having fun exploring! Mike NF4L robby robertson wrote: My K3 #3408 was shipped with v. 3.27. I don't know if it is a release version or beta. I can't find it on the site anywhere. When I tried to load v. 3.30 my rig locked up. They claim I have a bad KIO3 board and sent me another about a week ago so it's about half way here. It took 14 days for my K3 to get here. Six days of that time it sat in Canadian Customs then Canada Post had it for another six days. This makes the US Postal Service look pretty good! -Robby VY2SS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
took 14 days for my K3 to get here. Six days of that time it sat in Canadian Customs then Canada Post had it for another six days. This makes the US Postal Service look pretty good! -Robby VY2SS Do they charge for storage?(-: 73 Rick Dettinger K7MW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
I see it is being recommended for K3 owners to upgrade to the latest beta firmware. I have always waited for the regular releases. There has been a plethora of changes since the last regular release in early May. It would be nice if all the stable items in these betas were incorporated into a regular release so those of us not interested in being beta testers could catch up to some degree. 73, Lee (K9CM) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
Even a public beta release has undergone a significant amount of real life field testing by around 80 testers and it's easy to revert back to an earlier version if you find a problem. The more recent releases have significant improvements in many areas, especially the noise reduction. There is no reason to wait for a release to be a regular one, updating is simple and safe. I've even had my laptop go into hibernation half way through a firmware update without needing the radio to be returned to the factory. Unlike some other radios, the K3 is very robust with regard to firmware updates. 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 f/w 3.44 -- I see it is being recommended for K3 owners to upgrade to the latest beta firmware. I have always waited for the regular releases. There has been a plethora of changes since the last regular release in early May. It would be nice if all the stable items in these betas were incorporated into a regular release so those of us not interested in being beta testers could catch up to some degree. 73, Lee (K9CM) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
Lee, No new code will likely be compiled to form a new release level - IMHO, that would be even more risky than creating a new beta release, and would itself require more testing than any new beta release. What has happened in the past, and will likely continue into the future, is that a beta release which has demonstrated itself to be as stable or more so than the prior 'production release' will be named as the new production release. I am doing one doing pre-beta testing, and have not yet found a need to back-level the firmware except as a comparison test. If you look at the code levels, you will see the numbers jump, even in the 'beta' releases. The reasons for those jumps is that as a new function is added, it may have been done in incremental steps, or there was a problem discovered in the pre-beta testing which was corrected in the next level. The newest beta release has been quite stable in the minds of the pre-beta testers, so it was released to all K3 owners who want to take advantage of it. The firmware is not going to break your K3 hardware in any way, so why not just load the new beta release to obtain the added functions. If you experience any problems, just re-load the prior version. Yes, it would be helpful if you reported the problem encountered. It is that willingness to report problems that makes one a beta tester. Just using the beta release does not make anyone a beta tester. 73, Don W3FPR Lee Trout wrote: I see it is being recommended for K3 owners to upgrade to the latest beta firmware. I have always waited for the regular releases. There has been a plethora of changes since the last regular release in early May. It would be nice if all the stable items in these betas were incorporated into a regular release so those of us not interested in being beta testers could catch up to some degree. 73, Lee (K9CM) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.20/2440 - Release Date: 10/16/09 06:32:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
Thanks for your response Dave and Don, but I do not agree. I see too many complaints of one sort or another on the reflector about problems with beta releases. I don't like computers and use them minimally and thus have no interest in loading in a update to experiment with, then reverting back to earlier version in case of problems -- that is what beta testers enjoy doing. And I suspect there are quite a few guys like me. If everyone is supposed to load the beta releases, what is the purpose of a regular release? And Don, has there been no stable beta release sine May that could be issued as the new production release? 73, Lee (K9CM) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
I take a wait and see attitude and I update my firmware once every 6 months or so. My original firmware worked quite well and I was actually pleased with the radio's performance before upgrading anything. Of course, there are new features and enhancements in new releases, but they are not mandatory by any means. If you don't have a problem, don't upgrade. 73, Bob W5OV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lee Trout Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 7:31 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Thanks for your response Dave and Don, but I do not agree. I see too many complaints of one sort or another on the reflector about problems with beta releases. I don't like computers and use them minimally and thus have no interest in loading in a update to experiment with, then reverting back to earlier version in case of problems -- that is what beta testers enjoy doing. And I suspect there are quite a few guys like me. If everyone is supposed to load the beta releases, what is the purpose of a regular release? And Don, has there been no stable beta release sine May that could be issued as the new production release? 73, Lee (K9CM) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
As one of the testers and a person with 40 years of software development experience, I would say this latest release is as close to gold code as I have seen. There is no real risk other than to reload the old code. By the time K3 code hits the beta list it is really pretty good. I would look at the release notes and if there is an improvement you think you would like then move up. The folks working on the K3 code are amazing! The move from conception, to alpha, to beta is usually clean and quick. The K3 is a serious work in progress with lots of happy plateaus of stable feature rich releases. Best investment I ever made. Dan - Dan AB3EN -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-tp3840497p3840621.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
Lee, In my experience, there have been many beta releases that could have been named as a production release. My guess is that in the 'busy-ness' of the summer and autumn with vacations and all (Wayne and Lyle do need some R R), none were selected. The creation of a formal production release requires paperwork to be processed for the manufacturing end of the business, so it is more complex than just 'naming' it a production release. The world of K3 firmware is vastly different than the computer world of operating system upgrades. May I suggest you try the new 3.44 release and call it your 'personal release level' to take advantage of the added functions. You can always back-level easily if you have a problem. Alternately, monitor the reflector here for a week or so, and any problems will be revealed by those already using it. There have been no problems found and reported by the Field Test group, so I expect few problems from other users. OTOH, if you are satisfied with the functions available in your current firmware, then why upgrade? No one will force you to upgrade. The only consequence is if you report a problem that has been fixed in a subsequent release (either production or beta), you will simply be encouraged to upgrade in order to fix that problem. 73, Don W3FPR Lee Trout wrote: snip And Don, has there been no stable beta release sine May that could be issued as the new production release? 73, Lee (K9CM) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
Lee said It would be nice if all the stable items in these betas were incorporated into a regular release so those of us not interested in being beta testers could catch up to some degree. Lee, I have installed every K3 beta version and almost all of the pre-beta firmware. Your statement about stability is not founded in reality. Every installation has been stable. I have never had the urge to go back to a prior version after installing a beta or pre-beta. You are missing out on all the new features. If you think about it, what risk are you taking? If it doesn't work out for you, just go back to the older version. You are always just five minutes away from having whatever version of FW that you wish. It isn't like the K3 is going to blow up in your face. Mike Scott - AE6WA Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA) NAQCC 3535 K3-100 #508 / KX1 #1311 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
My two cents on this topic I have been testing all the FW beta versions since the very first one I installed at my K3/2192 and never have had any kind of problem with them,sometimes as Don said,I go back to the former one just to hear the difference but so far all the beta FW that has been released are very safe and they will not damage anything at all in your radio.Besides reporting any posible problem is the only way Elecraft team will know what to fix,so always will be testers who will tell them what's good and what's wrong,its up to you weather you try or not but as I said,beta FW is a good thing to do.Good luck AD4C K3 and K2 For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Sat, 10/17/09, Lee Trout trou...@gmail.com wrote: From: Lee Trout trou...@gmail.com Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, October 17, 2009, 12:30 PM Thanks for your response Dave and Don, but I do not agree. I see too many complaints of one sort or another on the reflector about problems with beta releases. I don't like computers and use them minimally and thus have no interest in loading in a update to experiment with, then reverting back to earlier version in case of problems -- that is what beta testers enjoy doing. And I suspect there are quite a few guys like me. If everyone is supposed to load the beta releases, what is the purpose of a regular release? And Don, has there been no stable beta release sine May that could be issued as the new production release? 73, Lee (K9CM) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
It just occurred to me that there are several perceptions of the word stable (actually lack of stability) that could be coming into play in this discussion. 1) It has all functions implemented -- Maybe one day, but not today - new stuff is added incrementally. 2) All fixes have been implemented -- That is true for identified bugs to the extent possible when it goes to beta. 3) It will not 'break' the K3 -- No pre-beta release has ever 'broken' my K3 The net is that the K3 firmware is currently a work in progress. There are a few functions that are still to be added, like Sync AM, and there is a list of requests for additional function or changes for the existing functions that are being considered (new requests are seen frequently here on the reflector). Those who have been paying close attention to the beta release levels will know that if a major problem (more than an annoyance) is identified, the result is a quick turn-around with a new beta release containing the fix (and that fix has already been tested by the Field Test group). My conclusion is that the stability of the K3 firmware is a relative term. In anticipation of further improvements, it will be a long time before the firmware is finished and thus stable by that definition. 73, Don W3FPR Mike Scott wrote: Your statement about stability is not founded in reality. Every installation has been stable. Lot-a-snips __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
This gets to the point where someone wants new PRODUCTION code and features every couple of months. Consider that the FT-1000MP had exactly one release. The FT1000MP MkV had one release. Ad nauseum. Since there is NO precedent of any ham transceiver folding in frequent new major firmware features mid-model except the K3, there is no precedent of a reasonable release schedule for ham transceiver PRODUCTION software. Elecraft is setting the new standard for this. There is no coding on the planet as difficult as code for hardware, which requires efficiency, compactness, total attention to timing, vast creativity, and extensive testing. Where I last worked, we had the size (over 20,000 employees) to put 2000-3000 full-time employees in FULL-TIME code testing. Frankly, some of the stuff Wayne is putting out, I would have 25 or more full time testers, working on a plan, if the release schedule was compact. This kind of investment makes financial sense for something with 100,000+ eventual installations. It does not make sense for a product with 2000 units of 3k $ per year, the loaded cost of testing exceeding the gross. That kind of investment in the tiny, tiny niche that is ham radio transceivers is not possible. If it was REQUIRED, K3 would simply not happen. You'd be stuck with the Ikenyu single firmware per model, a lean feature set, with little change between models because a rich and substantially changing feature set cannot be fully tested without destroying the profit margins or raising prices to military levels. What we have in Elecraft is an in-between strategy, created from a customer base of kit-builders, where those who WANT to play beta fill in the un-feasible full-time testing base to make more-than-one-firmware-release-per-model possible. Among some there seems to be little patience or appreciation of the difficulty of the work. Beyond that, pre-beta testers are catching stuff (note skipped numbers between public betas), modifying our rigs in a way no longer possible ourselves, and enjoying them. So, please, DO beta and like it (if you find a problem, report it), or DON'T do beta and wait for the rest of us to hammer it out. Just try not to spoil it for the rest of us. 73, Guy. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Lee Trout trou...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your response Dave and Don, but I do not agree. I see too many complaints of one sort or another on the reflector about problems with beta releases. I don't like computers and use them minimally and thus have no interest in loading in a update to experiment with, then reverting back to earlier version in case of problems -- that is what beta testers enjoy doing. And I suspect there are quite a few guys like me. If everyone is supposed to load the beta releases, what is the purpose of a regular release? And Don, has there been no stable beta release sine May that could be issued as the new production release? 73, Lee (K9CM) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
I just installed the new FW 3.44 and radio DID NOT FAIL,download was smooth and easy,LIKE ALL OTHERS,inmediately noticed NR works better than before as well as the NB,audio quality did not change at all,still remains from 50 to 4000Hz,will test the rest of the features reported to have improved,so far as all others this was a reliable Beta FW,so nobody will have to be afraid to do this process which is safe and stable. AD4C For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Sat, 10/17/09, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware To: Lee Trout trou...@gmail.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, October 17, 2009, 2:08 PM This gets to the point where someone wants new PRODUCTION code and features every couple of months. Consider that the FT-1000MP had exactly one release. The FT1000MP MkV had one release. Ad nauseum. Since there is NO precedent of any ham transceiver folding in frequent new major firmware features mid-model except the K3, there is no precedent of a reasonable release schedule for ham transceiver PRODUCTION software. Elecraft is setting the new standard for this. There is no coding on the planet as difficult as code for hardware, which requires efficiency, compactness, total attention to timing, vast creativity, and extensive testing. Where I last worked, we had the size (over 20,000 employees) to put 2000-3000 full-time employees in FULL-TIME code testing. Frankly, some of the stuff Wayne is putting out, I would have 25 or more full time testers, working on a plan, if the release schedule was compact. This kind of investment makes financial sense for something with 100,000+ eventual installations. It does not make sense for a product with 2000 units of 3k $ per year, the loaded cost of testing exceeding the gross. That kind of investment in the tiny, tiny niche that is ham radio transceivers is not possible. If it was REQUIRED, K3 would simply not happen. You'd be stuck with the Ikenyu single firmware per model, a lean feature set, with little change between models because a rich and substantially changing feature set cannot be fully tested without destroying the profit margins or raising prices to military levels. What we have in Elecraft is an in-between strategy, created from a customer base of kit-builders, where those who WANT to play beta fill in the un-feasible full-time testing base to make more-than-one-firmware-release-per-model possible. Among some there seems to be little patience or appreciation of the difficulty of the work. Beyond that, pre-beta testers are catching stuff (note skipped numbers between public betas), modifying our rigs in a way no longer possible ourselves, and enjoying them. So, please, DO beta and like it (if you find a problem, report it), or DON'T do beta and wait for the rest of us to hammer it out. Just try not to spoil it for the rest of us. 73, Guy. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Lee Trout trou...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your response Dave and Don, but I do not agree. I see too many complaints of one sort or another on the reflector about problems with beta releases. I don't like computers and use them minimally and thus have no interest in loading in a update to experiment with, then reverting back to earlier version in case of problems -- that is what beta testers enjoy doing. And I suspect there are quite a few guys like me. If everyone is supposed to load the beta releases, what is the purpose of a regular release? And Don, has there been no stable beta release sine May that could be issued as the new production release? 73, Lee (K9CM) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
My problem with the BETA process is that it is in no way intuitively obvious as to how to install it. I have put this on the reflector before and got pu-pawed, I have Windows Vista. It is Pain in the A… to install the new betas. You CAN NOT click and download the file. PERIOD. You MUST follow a specific procedure just to even see the zip file (because for some unknown reason it is in a FTP folder. That means you have to openthe folder in a separate window/tab, etc. etc. etc. and do it CORECTLY. Why can’t the beta file be placed as an icon/link? Why can’t the K3Utility have a special tab for BETA releases? And there are many other ways this process could be improved. My 2 cents. KE0X Lee Trout wrote: I see it is being recommended for K3 owners to upgrade to the latest beta firmware. I have always waited for the regular releases. There has been a plethora of changes since the last regular release in early May. It would be nice if all the stable items in these betas were incorporated into a regular release so those of us not interested in being beta testers could catch up to some degree. 73, Lee (K9CM) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-tp3840497p3840963.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:30:55 -0400, Lee Trout trou...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your response Dave and Don, but I do not agree. I see too many complaints of one sort or another on the reflector about problems with beta releases. I am one of the beta testers. When I read the complaints regarding new betas I find that I cannot duplicate most of them or that the poster is expressing a personal opinion based on the way they like for things to work. If I can duplicate the behavior the poster describes I report it to Elecraft and it gets fixed (usually in the next day or so). Send an email to one of the other rig manufacturers and see if you can even get an answer from them. *** I don't like computers and use them minimally and thus have no interest in loading in a update to experiment with, then reverting back to earlier version in case of problems -- that is what beta testers enjoy doing. *** No one is suggesting that you are doing the wrong thing by not installing beta firmware. It's your choice not to do so. I'm sorry you don't like computers, but once again, that is in keeping with making your own choice. And I suspect there are quite a few guys like me. If everyone is supposed to load the beta releases, what is the purpose of a regular release? And Don, has there been no stable beta release sine May that could be issued as the new production release? 73, Lee (K9CM) [snip] Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. 2 W2's on order 1 K144XV on order http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
I download the zip file from the Elecraft web site using the web browser Firefox and save it in a beta folder. I have pretty much all the beta firmware there in the original zip format. Then I remove the 8 or so files from the zipped one with Winzip (I know Windows will now extract those files but I have a paid for Winzip and it works better) and extract the contents of the latest zip file to that same folder. My K3 Utility points to that folder and sees the latest available firmware. The process is relatively straightforward and means I have currently 50 versions of earlier firmware I can refer back to with out difficulty. Yes, it's a bit computery but it works 100% for me with Windows XP Pro and I checked with another K3 owner who has Vista and he says it works fine on zipped betas for him too (although he also has Winzip). Not having Winzip shouldn't be a problem... 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 [Rich KE0X Wrote] My problem with the BETA process is that it is in no way intuitively obvious as to how to install it. I have put this on the reflector before and got pu-pawed, I have Windows Vista. It is Pain in the A… to install the new betas. You CAN NOT click and download the file. PERIOD. You MUST follow a specific procedure just to even see the zip file (because for some unknown reason it is in a FTP folder. That means you have to openthe folder in a separate window/tab, etc. etc. etc. and do it CORECTLY. Why can’t the beta file be placed as an icon/link? Why can’t the K3Utility have a special tab for BETA releases? And there are many other ways this process could be improved. My 2 cents. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:46:08 -0700 (PDT), Rich richle...@cox.net wrote: My problem with the BETA process is that it is in no way intuitively obvious as to how to install it. I have put this on the reflector before and got pu-pawed, I have Windows Vista. It is Pain in the A to install the new betas. You CAN NOT click and download the file. PERIOD. You MUST follow a specific procedure just to even see the zip file (because for some unknown reason it is in a FTP folder. That means you have to openthe folder in a separate window/tab, etc. etc. etc. and do it CORECTLY. Why cant the beta file be placed as an icon/link? Why cant the K3Utility have a special tab for BETA releases? And there are many other ways this process could be improved. My 2 cents. KE0X [snip] The problem is not with the Download process. It is Vista, which is such a PITA that MS has had to replace it with Windows Seven. None of the troubles you describe exist with any of the versions of XP. That is why MS is still selling and supporting XP. Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. 2 W2's on order 1 K144XV on order http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
My PC with XP died at least two years ago and this is what I got. So is it going to work with Windows 7? Or be an even worse mess. Shouldnt the web page be written so that it is windows Vista compatable? Shouldnt the web page be written so that it is Windows 7 Ccompatable? Shouldnt the webpage be written so thjat it is MAC, Chrome, MSIE, Firefox, XXX ZZZ, etc. etc compatable/ I can see many other web pages with ZIP files that I can click on and download but not on Elecraft, WHY? If the K3Utility can download the “Real” firmware update, why not another tab that goes to the BETA firmware. And I have been writing code since 1975 – from assembly language up, not just higher level language soI know it can be done. Rich The problem is not with the Download process. It is Vista, which is such a PITA that MS has had to replace it with Windows Seven. None of the troubles you describe exist with any of the versions of XP. That is why MS is still selling and supporting XP. Tom, N5GE -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-tp3840497p3841066.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
Yes a single click download might be nice, but I use basically Dave's approach with with I.E. and both Xp and Vista except that I don't have Winzip on the Vista machine (the built in unzip utility steps in automatically). No problem here with either OS. The Elecraft web site also has clear step-by-step instructions that work for either Vista or Xp. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I download the zip file from the Elecraft web site using the web browser Firefox and save it in a beta folder. I have pretty much all the beta firmware there in the original zip format. Then I remove the 8 or so files from the zipped one with Winzip (I know Windows will now extract those files but I have a paid for Winzip and it works better) and extract the contents of the latest zip file to that same folder. My K3 Utility points to that folder and sees the latest available firmware. The process is relatively straightforward and means I have currently 50 versions of earlier firmware I can refer back to with out difficulty. Yes, it's a bit computery but it works 100% for me with Windows XP Pro and I checked with another K3 owner who has Vista and he says it works fine on zipped betas for him too (although he also has Winzip). Not having Winzip shouldn't be a problem... 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
Rich The link is: ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/firmware/beta/ It works just fine in Firefox, no idea why it doesn't work for you. There is nothing wrong with that site. 73 Dave, G4AON I can see many other web pages with ZIP files that I can click on and download but not on Elecraft, WHY? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:26:16 -0700 (PDT), Rich richle...@cox.net wrote: My PC with XP died at least two years ago and this is what I got. So is it going to work with Windows 7? Or be an even worse mess. [snip] Beta release users are saying it may be the best OS MS ever wrote. Most of the people saying this reported that Vista was a PITA, so there may be hope. If you still have your installation software for XP you can install it on the new computer. Also a long time developer here. Started in 1978 with TRS-80 ;o) 73, Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. 2 W2's on order 1 K144XV on order http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
My conclusion is that the stability of the K3 firmware is a relative term. In anticipation of further improvements, it will be a long time before the firmware is finished and thus stable by that definition. 73, Don W3FPR This makes wonder if new K3's are shipped with the latest Bata or the last production firmware? 73 Rick Dettinger K7MW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
Regarding beta releases ... if you're concerned about new bugs or problems, just wait a week or two following the initial announcement and monitor the reflector. If there's a bug, you'll hear about it. If not, go ahead and download. Regarding Vista -- I have no problems whatever downloading the beta packages and sending them to my K3. 73--Nick, WA5BDU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
Time for me to get off this thread. It's becoming too long (In my opinion). 73, Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. 2 W2's on order 1 K144XV on order http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
I agree that downloading a beta version can a little confusing for people like me who do it very infrequently. Sometimes the littlest thing can be frustrating. For example, the following instruction from the K3 website: 9. Click download all new firmware. could cause confusion for some users because their K3 Utility program does not have this button but instead has a button labeled Send All Firmware to K3. I also agree with others that K3 users should not be afraid of installing new beta versions. Some users may want to wait a few days before installing a new beta because if any serious problem exists in the new version it will soon be identified by some expert user and then quickly fixed by the Elecraft team. To date, I have only installed two beta versions but in the future I plan to install all new beta versions few days after they are announced. Doug N0HH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
The point I was trying to emphasize was that as much as I know about computers that I find it a PITA to download the beta, so I can imagine how hard it is for the plain old computer user. It is SO easy to do the regular updates with the K3Utility, but I haven’t been able (needed) to use it in about two years.Why can't that program be modified to do it? That is what we need. Not a set of instructions for this OSnmaother for that OS, and the fact that you need to use this or that extra web explorer. I know that, I have done that it is a PITA. Why can't the K3UItility program do it? Rich -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-tp3840497p3841291.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
I have been using Windows 7 (both beta and Release Candidate) for a few months and it works fine. If there is a difficult way of doing something, I usually find it! I have done several beta downloads. Put the FTP site in your Bookmarks (I use Firefox). I use the default download directory and let the zip file automatically extract to a sub-directory of the same name. All I have to do is change the last 1 or 2 characters in the default K3 Utility directory to match the filename (the first time you have to browse for it). I am not very familiar with Vista so cannot make any comparisons. Next week I hope to get Windows 7 family pack for my 3 computers. 73 Tony Fegan VE3QF On 17-Oct-09 11:09 AM, Radio Amateur N5GE wrote: On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:46:08 -0700 (PDT), Richrichle...@cox.net wrote: My problem with the BETA process is that it is in no way intuitively obvious as to how to install it. I have put this on the reflector before and got pu-pawed, I have Windows Vista. It is Pain in the A… to install the new betas. You CAN NOT click and download the file. PERIOD. You MUST follow a specific procedure just to even see the zip file (because for some unknown reason it is in a FTP folder. That means you have to openthe folder in a separate window/tab, etc. etc. etc. and do it CORECTLY. Why can’t the beta file be placed as an icon/link? Why can’t the K3Utility have a special tab for BETA releases? And there are many other ways this process could be improved. My 2 cents. KE0X [snip] The problem is not with the Download process. It is Vista, which is such a PITA that MS has had to replace it with Windows Seven. None of the troubles you describe exist with any of the versions of XP. That is why MS is still selling and supporting XP. Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. 2 W2's on order 1 K144XV on order http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
I dont understand why I can choose to upgrade to the regular firmware version with a built in ftp engine and for beta's I have to find the firmware myself. Using ftp from a browser is not really working. Why not just an option in the utility? I dont have problems with any of the betas. (Running the latest now.) Henk PA5KT Ron D'Eau Claire schreef: Yes a single click download might be nice, but I use basically Dave's approach with with I.E. and both Xp and Vista except that I don't have Winzip on the Vista machine (the built in unzip utility steps in automatically). No problem here with either OS. The Elecraft web site also has clear step-by-step instructions that work for either Vista or Xp. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I download the zip file from the Elecraft web site using the web browser Firefox and save it in a beta folder. I have pretty much all the beta firmware there in the original zip format. Then I remove the 8 or so files from the zipped one with Winzip (I know Windows will now extract those files but I have a paid for Winzip and it works better) and extract the contents of the latest zip file to that same folder. My K3 Utility points to that folder and sees the latest available firmware. The process is relatively straightforward and means I have currently 50 versions of earlier firmware I can refer back to with out difficulty. Yes, it's a bit computery but it works 100% for me with Windows XP Pro and I checked with another K3 owner who has Vista and he says it works fine on zipped betas for him too (although he also has Winzip). Not having Winzip shouldn't be a problem... 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Henk Remijn PA5KT email: pa...@remijn.net www: www.remijn.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
Rich and all, I don't use Vista, but have heard on more than one occasion that signing onto Vista as The Administrator allows certain file manipulation that Vista security otherwise prevents. 73, Fred __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware
My problem with the BETA process is that it is in no way intuitively obvious as to how to install it. I have put this on the reflector before and got pu-pawed, I have Windows Vista. It is Pain in the A to install the neew betas. You CAN NOT click and download the file. PERIOD. You MUST follow a specific procedure just to even see the zip file (because for some unknown reason it is in a FTP folder. That means you have to openthe folder in a separate window/tab, etc. etc. etc. and do it CORECTLY. Why can't the beta file be placed as an icon/link? Why can't the K3Utility have a special tab for BETA releases? And there are many other ways this process could be improved. My 2 cents. KE0X Lee Trout Lee, All that is basic file and directory management and unzipping that you have to know if you want to use a computer. There are no shortcuts. You have to learn file and directory management if you want to advance beyond email and web browsing. Before you download the zip, simply navigate to the directory where you want it to go before you download it. Then open Windows Explorer (formerly File Manager). After you download the zip, before unzipping it, navigate to the directory that you want the extracted files to go to. Once you learn file management, the process is simple. With VISTA, you may want to run download and run TweakUAC.exe to turn off UAC. That will eliminate most of the annoying pop ups. Or you can just upgrade to XP or 7. Paul __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.44: Misc. improvements
K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.44 (with DSP rev. 2.38) is now available. See release notes below. If you've been using older firmware for awhile, I'd suggest upgrading now. We've made many important improvements over the past few weeks. Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm We recommend that you use the latest revision of K3 Utility, which can also be found on the K3 software page. 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 3.44 / DSP 2.38, 10-14-2009 * TUNE ATU TUNE NOW WORK IN DATA A MODE/SPLIT: TUNE and ATU TUNE were producing no power output in DATA A /SPLIT, even though normal transmit worked correctly. * NON-FM SQUELCH WORKING ON A/B VFO SWAP: In some cases in SSB or CW mode, squelch could end up permanently closed when swapping VFOs and listening to strong signals. * NR CONTROL: Internal self-tests added to further reduce the likelihood of AF artifacts or continuous switch feedback tones when turning NR on/off, changing bands, etc. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.42: Works correctly with HRD
K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.42 (with DSP rev. 2.37) is now available. It corrects a problem with CW keying (and possibly transmit in general) when using HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe) software. See release notes below. Please send any problem reports to k3supp...@elecraft.com. Beta firmware load instructions can be found at http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 3.42 / DSP 2.37, 10-10-2009 * POLLING PROBLEM WITH HRD FIXED: With no sub receiver installed, applications such as HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe) were still able to continuously poll for the aux DSP revision number, causing timeouts that could disrupt transmit. * SQUELCH CAN BE SET FULLY CLOCKWISE: In some cases rotating the squelch pot fully clockwise would open the squelch. Full clockwise now closes squelch. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.41: Improved RX bass response; Flat DATA-mode EQ; Live memory recall; etc.
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:59:08 -0700, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU le...@wa5znu.org wrote: Could we get an estimate on when the non-Windows platform K3 Utilities 1.2.9.30 will be ready? The K3_software page is a bit stale on this topic. I need to decide whether to go get a Windows laptop set up to run the RF gain calibration, and I'm sure others would like to know as well. (It's obviously not an impossible task, but not one I'd like to undertake needlessly if the release is imminent.) Leigh/WA5ZNU [snip] You're experiencing why I stopped using Apple Computers and developing software for them in 1985. They are good computers but Apple does not make it easy for developers to create software for their computers (very expensive development tools). That caused x86 and x64 based computer sales overwhelmed Apple sales as time went by. My opinion. I could be wrong. Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. 2 W2's on order 1 K144XV on order http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
