Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:12:05 -, "Ron Ferguson" wrote: Sure you can Keith, but I don't have to as it's in the Burial Location field, so I do not need the clutter of Burial Events. Just out of interest, because I can think of two, or more, ways of getting your output from the Events, which are you using (in detail please - wrt the description, location, address fields). One advantage to making it an Event would be the ability to print tombstone photos in reports. Very true, Dennis and, for me, that is about the only advantage of a separate Event. Although I often suggest this method for those who find they cannot attach pictures, I do not use it myself as whether in a report or on a webpage, I prefer to position them myself. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Brian L. Lightfoot wrote And don't forget, with "Cemetery" entered as an Event, you can now attach a photograph of the gravestone which will also print out in reports. You can also make the photograph a Source for your Cemetery event as well as a source for Burial location, Name, Birth date, and Death date. Like Ron, I do not want the clutter of Burial Events but I do have photographs of gravestones etc which I might want to have show in a report and I think it is important to remember that gravestones are not *necessarily* proof of a burial in a particular place. My solution is to have an Event named Memorial (this might be a standard Legacy one, I forget) with a sentence something like "‹b›[EventName]‹/b›: [Desc] [inPlace] bears the inscription [Notes].[Sources]" which reads "Memorial: a Gravestone in Flaybrick Hill Cemetery [full address here] bears the inscription ..." This covers not only gravestones but memorial plaques, War Memorials, headstones which have been removed from their original site, etc. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
And don't forget, with "Cemetery" entered as an Event, you can now attach a photograph of the gravestone which will also print out in reports. You can also make the photograph a Source for your Cemetery event as well as a source for Burial location, Name, Birth date, and Death date. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: GeoSci [mailto:geosc...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:38 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location Ron, I just prefer the way Events come out in a report. For this - I named the event Cemetery (just start typing and it pops up in Event) ; under Description I put the cemetery name : under date I put the date of burial (at least year) : under Place I put the location (City,County,State,USA for most of mine) and finally in Notes I put the Plot and/or Find-A-Grave number. Keith -- Find-A-Grave "County Keeper" for Schuylkill County, PA Keith A. McKain McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 - # Mc17936 Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 Email: geosc...@comcast.net On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > Sure you can Keith, but I don't have to as it's in the Burial Location > field, so I do not need the clutter of Burial Events. > > Just out of interest, because I can think of two, or more, ways of getting > your output from the Events, which are you using (in detail please - wrt the > description, location, address fields). > > Ron Ferguson > _ > > > GeoSci wrote: >> >> Ron, >> >> EASY! Make the burial an EVENT - for my Grandfather - Armor LeRoy >> McKain is says: >> >> Events >> >> >> 1. He was buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in Lancaster, PA. >> Mifflin Section >> - Lot 559 Find-A-Grave # 38226479 >> >> Works for me! >> Keith >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ron Ferguson >> wrote: >>> >>> Jim, >>> >>> Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of >>> including the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the >>> Location field, and then right sorting does mean that the output is >>> not suitable for the Geolocation function, but then that American >>> function does not work for most non American countries (and as I >>> understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like loads of >>> commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a >>> temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore >>> the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good >>> for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient >>> reason to say that 2ndCD method is better. >>> >>> Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to >>> write in a report or web page "place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, >>> Peel Green, Eccles, Lancashire, England", for example or even >>> "Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A." >>> if you prefer it >>> >>> Ron Ferguson >>> _ >>> Jim Walton wrote: >>>> >>>> The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. >>>> If you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the >>>> cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a >>>> county. A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and >>>> then enter the cemetery location and address in the burial address >>>> field. This way the location field can be used as designed, and the >>>> complete address information is available. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Randy Clark wrote >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, testing your method, I have a location: >>>>>> Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, >>>>>> Pennsylvania >>>>>> So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then >>>>>> can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use >>>>>> of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? >>>>> >>>>> Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the >>>>> Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the >>>>> bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several >>>>> locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first >>>>> and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect >>>>> Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's >>>>> simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- >>>>> Jenny M Benson >>>>> Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:12:05 -, "Ron Ferguson" wrote: >Sure you can Keith, but I don't have to as it's in the Burial Location >field, so I do not need the clutter of Burial Events. > >Just out of interest, because I can think of two, or more, ways of getting >your output from the Events, which are you using (in detail please - wrt the >description, location, address fields). One advantage to making it an Event would be the ability to print tombstone photos in reports. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
The main point is being missed of the Geo tool. If you put in the 'current' place name, get the actual long/lat and save those numbers. Then you can change the spelling (to Lutheren) or previous names (Massachusetts Bay Colony). I copy/duplicate the L/L into the notes. I don't open Geo again (for the same place). You can then use as many fields as you prefer. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Ron Ferguson To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 8:49:47 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location Jim, Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of including the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the Location field, and then right sorting does mean that the output is not suitable for the Geolocation function, but then that American function does not work for most non American countries (and as I understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like loads of commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient reason to say that 2ndCD method is better. Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to write in a report or web page "place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, Peel Green, Eccles, Lancashire, England", for example or even "Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A." if you prefer it Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Jim Walton wrote: > The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If > you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the > cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county. > A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter > the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This > way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete > address information is available. > > Jim > > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson > wrote: >> Randy Clark wrote >>> >>> OK, testing your method, I have a location: >>> Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, >>> Pennsylvania >>> So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then >>> can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use >>> of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? >> >> Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the >> Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the >> bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several >> locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and >> again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect >> Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply >> a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- >> Jenny M Benson >> _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Ron, I just prefer the way Events come out in a report. For this - I named the event Cemetery (just start typing and it pops up in Event) ; under Description I put the cemetery name : under date I put the date of burial (at least year) : under Place I put the location (City,County,State,USA for most of mine) and finally in Notes I put the Plot and/or Find-A-Grave number. Keith -- Find-A-Grave "County Keeper" for Schuylkill County, PA Keith A. McKain McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 - # Mc17936 Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 Email: geosc...@comcast.net On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > Sure you can Keith, but I don't have to as it's in the Burial Location > field, so I do not need the clutter of Burial Events. > > Just out of interest, because I can think of two, or more, ways of getting > your output from the Events, which are you using (in detail please - wrt the > description, location, address fields). > > Ron Ferguson > _ > > New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website > http://www.fergys.co.uk > Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > Follow me on twitter > http://twitter.com/ronfergy > > > > GeoSci wrote: >> >> Ron, >> >> EASY! Make the burial an EVENT - for my Grandfather - Armor LeRoy >> McKain is says: >> >> Events >> >> >> 1. He was buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in Lancaster, PA. >> Mifflin Section >> - Lot 559 Find-A-Grave # 38226479 >> >> Works for me! >> Keith >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ron Ferguson >> wrote: >>> >>> Jim, >>> >>> Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of >>> including the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the >>> Location field, and then right sorting does mean that the output is >>> not suitable for the Geolocation function, but then that American >>> function does not work for most non American countries (and as I >>> understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like loads of >>> commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a >>> temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore >>> the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good >>> for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient >>> reason to say that 2ndCD method is better. >>> >>> Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to >>> write in a report or web page "place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, >>> Peel Green, Eccles, Lancashire, England", for example or even >>> "Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A." >>> if you prefer it >>> >>> Ron Ferguson >>> _ >>> >>> New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website >>> http://www.fergys.co.uk >>> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw >>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ >>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England >>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Jim Walton wrote: The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county. A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete address information is available. Jim On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote: > > Randy Clark wrote >> >> OK, testing your method, I have a location: >> Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, >> Pennsylvania >> So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then >> can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use >> of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? > > Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the > Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the > bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several > locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first > and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect > Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's > simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- > Jenny M Benson > >>> >>> _ >>> >>> New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website >>> http://www.fergys.co.uk >>> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw >>> http://www.fergys.c
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Sure you can Keith, but I don't have to as it's in the Burial Location field, so I do not need the clutter of Burial Events. Just out of interest, because I can think of two, or more, ways of getting your output from the Events, which are you using (in detail please - wrt the description, location, address fields). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy GeoSci wrote: Ron, EASY! Make the burial an EVENT - for my Grandfather - Armor LeRoy McKain is says: Events 1. He was buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in Lancaster, PA. Mifflin Section - Lot 559 Find-A-Grave # 38226479 Works for me! Keith On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: Jim, Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of including the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the Location field, and then right sorting does mean that the output is not suitable for the Geolocation function, but then that American function does not work for most non American countries (and as I understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like loads of commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient reason to say that 2ndCD method is better. Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to write in a report or web page "place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, Peel Green, Eccles, Lancashire, England", for example or even "Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A." if you prefer it Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Jim Walton wrote: The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county. A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete address information is available. Jim On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote: Randy Clark wrote OK, testing your method, I have a location: Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- Jenny M Benson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Ron, EASY! Make the burial an EVENT - for my Grandfather - Armor LeRoy McKain is says: Events 1. He was buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in Lancaster, PA. Mifflin Section - Lot 559 Find-A-Grave # 38226479 Works for me! Keith -- Find-A-Grave "County Keeper" for Schuylkill County, PA Keith A. McKain McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 - # Mc17936 Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 Email: geosc...@comcast.net On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > Jim, > > Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of including > the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the Location field, and > then right sorting does mean that the output is not suitable for the > Geolocation function, but then that American function does not work for most > non American countries (and as I understand it many American ones as well). > Nor do I like loads of commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can > tolerate a temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. > Furthermore the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no > good for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient > reason to say that 2ndCD method is better. > > Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to write in > a report or web page "place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, Peel Green, > Eccles, Lancashire, England", for example or even "Forest Glade Cemetery, > Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A." if you prefer it > > Ron Ferguson > _ > > New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website > http://www.fergys.co.uk > Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > > > > Jim Walton wrote: >> >> The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If >> you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the >> cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county. >> A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter >> the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This >> way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete >> address information is available. >> >> Jim >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson >> wrote: >>> >>> Randy Clark wrote OK, testing your method, I have a location: Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? >>> >>> Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the >>> Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the >>> bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several >>> locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and >>> again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect >>> Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply >>> a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- >>> Jenny M Benson >>> > > _ > > New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website > http://www.fergys.co.uk > Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > Follow me on twitter > http://twitter.com/ronfergy > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Jim, Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of including the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the Location field, and then right sorting does mean that the output is not suitable for the Geolocation function, but then that American function does not work for most non American countries (and as I understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like loads of commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient reason to say that 2ndCD method is better. Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to write in a report or web page "place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, Peel Green, Eccles, Lancashire, England", for example or even "Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A." if you prefer it Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Jim Walton wrote: The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county. A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete address information is available. Jim On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote: Randy Clark wrote OK, testing your method, I have a location: Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- Jenny M Benson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county. A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete address information is available. Jim On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote: > Randy Clark wrote >> >> OK, testing your method, I have a location: >> Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania >> So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't >> find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses >> was necessary. Am I wrong? > > Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you > should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them > Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country > Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several > locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one > of the last. (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) > -- > Jenny M Benson > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
OK, it's working. Whoever said that parentheses needed to be used needs to come over right now and help me remove them[?]. BTW I left Lutheran misspelled as that's how it was in the original. Thanks. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote: > Randy Clark wrote > > OK, testing your method, I have a location: >> Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania >> So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't >> find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses >> was necessary. Am I wrong? >> > > Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you > should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them > Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country > Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several > locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one > of the last. (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) > > -- > Jenny M Benson > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > <<328.png>>
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Randy Clark wrote OK, testing your method, I have a location: Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
OK, testing your method, I have a location: Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote: > Arnold Sprague wrote > >I take a different approach to this and list the cemetery as a >> *location*, but in a different order from what you have done in the past. >> Here are two examples: >> 1. Chicago, Cook, IL, USA, Graceland Cemetery >> 2. Chicago, Cook, IL, USA, Graceland Cemetery, Sprague plot >> What is good, *for me*, is that, in the Master Location List, the >> sort is based on state, city, county, country, etc., so this particular >> cemetery is part of the Chicago "crowd." >> > > But if you entered them in the normal way - Graceland Cemetery, Chicago, > Cook, IL, USA - and then sorted from right to left that entry would still be > part of the Chicago "crowd" as you put it! Plus you'd have a normal-looking > address. > -- > Jenny M Benson > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > >
RE: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
I have just discovered Ltools (http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm) and it has a task to enable you at add an event to a tagged individual. You have to register the product to get this task. Hope that helps Roger -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Ron Ferguson Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2009 1:26 p.m. To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location Brenda J. Van Dyke wrote: > I am in the process of a huge cleanup of my location database as I > never used the Geo location database in the past and want to use it > now. Although the cleanup is time consuming, it�s coming along > nicely. I have arrived at a huge job and I�m wondering if someone > can help me make it easier. > > In the past, I listed cemeteries as a location, such as: Maplewood > Cemetery, New Lexington, Perry Co., OH. In my cleanup, I am creating > an Event called Cemetery, listing the name of the cemetery in the > Description field, and then listing the city, county, state, country > in the Location field. I then revise the Buried location field to > list just the city, county, state, country. > > My problem is that I probably have 70+ relatives buried in Maplewood > Cemetery and don�t want to go through each one individually adding > the Event, and then revising the Buried field to list the city, > county, state, country. > > I�ve never used tagging and looked at it as a possibility, but wasn�t > sure where to begin. I have MS Access 2007 and opened a copy of the > database with it hoping I could figure out an easy fix there, but to > no avail. > > I�ve been fighting a migraine headache today, so am probably missing > something easy.? > > Can anyone help me make this easy? Thanks in advance. > > Brenda Van Dyke > b...@columbus.rr.com > > Brenda, I suggest that you leave the change in the burial field until you have finished, by which time you can go to the Location List and simply delete the name of the cemetery and the contents of the field will be as you wish. Doing this earlier may cause a problem if you have missed identifying some of the deceased. I think with the first part using the Event Clipboard would reduce the operation to a mininum of clicks, but you would need to alter the date for each individual, and would not work if you have attached to the Event different Sources, although you make no mention of these. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2468 - Release Date: 10/30/09 15:18:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Brenda J. Van Dyke wrote: I am in the process of a huge cleanup of my location database as I never used the Geo location database in the past and want to use it now. Although the cleanup is time consuming, it’s coming along nicely. I have arrived at a huge job and I’m wondering if someone can help me make it easier. In the past, I listed cemeteries as a location, such as: Maplewood Cemetery, New Lexington, Perry Co., OH. In my cleanup, I am creating an Event called Cemetery, listing the name of the cemetery in the Description field, and then listing the city, county, state, country in the Location field. I then revise the Buried location field to list just the city, county, state, country. My problem is that I probably have 70+ relatives buried in Maplewood Cemetery and don’t want to go through each one individually adding the Event, and then revising the Buried field to list the city, county, state, country. I’ve never used tagging and looked at it as a possibility, but wasn’t sure where to begin. I have MS Access 2007 and opened a copy of the database with it hoping I could figure out an easy fix there, but to no avail. I’ve been fighting a migraine headache today, so am probably missing something easy.☺ Can anyone help me make this easy? Thanks in advance. Brenda Van Dyke b...@columbus.rr.com Brenda, I suggest that you leave the change in the burial field until you have finished, by which time you can go to the Location List and simply delete the name of the cemetery and the contents of the field will be as you wish. Doing this earlier may cause a problem if you have missed identifying some of the deceased. I think with the first part using the Event Clipboard would reduce the operation to a mininum of clicks, but you would need to alter the date for each individual, and would not work if you have attached to the Event different Sources, although you make no mention of these. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Arnold Sprague wrote I take a different approach to this and list the cemetery as a *location*, but in a different order from what you have done in the past. Here are two examples: 1. Chicago, Cook, IL, USA, Graceland Cemetery 2. Chicago, Cook, IL, USA, Graceland Cemetery, Sprague plot What is good, *for me*, is that, in the Master Location List, the sort is based on state, city, county, country, etc., so this particular cemetery is part of the Chicago "crowd." But if you entered them in the normal way - Graceland Cemetery, Chicago, Cook, IL, USA - and then sorted from right to left that entry would still be part of the Chicago "crowd" as you put it! Plus you'd have a normal-looking address. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Brenda, I take a different approach to this and list the cemetery as a *location*, but in a different order from what you have done in the past. Here are two examples: 1. Chicago, Cook, IL, USA, Graceland Cemetery 2. Chicago, Cook, IL, USA, Graceland Cemetery, Sprague plot What is good, *for me*, is that, in the Master Location List, the sort is based on state, city, county, country, etc., so this particular cemetery is part of the Chicago "crowd." Arnold At 05:26 PM 10/30/2009, you wrote: I am in the process of a huge cleanup of my location database as I never used the Geo location database in the past and want to use it now. Although the cleanup is time consuming, itâs coming along nicely. I have arrived at a huge job and Iâm wondering if someone can help me make it easier. In the past, I listed cemeteries as a location, such as: Maplewood Cemetery, New Lexington, Perry Co., OH. In my cleanup, I am creating an Event called Cemetery, listing the name of the cemetery in the Description field, and then listing the city, county, state, country in the Location field. I then revise the Buried location field to list just the city, county, state, country. My problem is that I probably have 70+ relatives buried in Maplewood Cemetery and donât want to go through each one individually adding the Event, and then revising the Buried field to list the city, county, state, country. Iâve never used tagging and looked at it as a possibility, but wasnât sure where to begin. I have MS Access 2007 and opened a copy of the database with it hoping I could figure out an easy fix there, but to no avail. Iâve been fighting a migraine headache today, so am probably missing something easy.⺠Can anyone help me make this easy? Thanks in advance. Brenda Van Dyke b...@columbus.rr.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
I am in the process of a huge cleanup of my location database as I never used the Geo location database in the past and want to use it now. Although the cleanup is time consuming, it’s coming along nicely. I have arrived at a huge job and I’m wondering if someone can help me make it easier. In the past, I listed cemeteries as a location, such as: Maplewood Cemetery, New Lexington, Perry Co., OH. In my cleanup, I am creating an Event called Cemetery, listing the name of the cemetery in the Description field, and then listing the city, county, state, country in the Location field. I then revise the Buried location field to list just the city, county, state, country. My problem is that I probably have 70+ relatives buried in Maplewood Cemetery and don’t want to go through each one individually adding the Event, and then revising the Buried field to list the city, county, state, country. I’ve never used tagging and looked at it as a possibility, but wasn’t sure where to begin. I have MS Access 2007 and opened a copy of the database with it hoping I could figure out an easy fix there, but to no avail. I’ve been fighting a migraine headache today, so am probably missing something easy.☺ Can anyone help me make this easy? Thanks in advance. Brenda Van Dyke b...@columbus.rr.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question for Ron Ferguson
No problem Gene, Remember also that there is the WUL Group which is set up for that purpose at http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/WUL/ where a number of experienced users can contributed. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy Gene Young wrote: Ron, Can I contact you off list with some questions on the Legacy Generated web pages and the errors contained therin? Thanks, -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer & Cox with Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.comxa.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Question for Ron Ferguson
Ron, Can I contact you off list with some questions on the Legacy Generated web pages and the errors contained therin? Thanks, -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer & Cox with Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.comxa.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] question about charting
Legacy Charting has a separate update from Legacy. Open Legacy Charting and check the Tips & Updates tab to make sure you have 7.0.120 Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:04 AM To: Legacy E-Mail List Subject: [LegacyUG] question about charting I thought you could order charts from right within the charting program but when I tried it it says not available, future update. michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] question about charting
Works fine for me. Have already ordered several of them directly through the program. Maybe you need to upgrade to the latest version. Michele Lewis wrote: I thought you could order charts from right within the charting program but when I tried it it says not available, future update. michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] question about charting
I thought you could order charts from right within the charting program but when I tried it it says not available, future update. michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question on merging two files
Thanks for the clarification and the suggestion. Only question that remains is the following: I imported the Ancestry GedCom into a Legacy test file for me to look at how it came over. Two things happened, neither one of them huge but I always like to know why something happened. I used to be a software tester and the logic of things fascinates me, plus I am great at "breaking things"they used to call us the "user abusers" LOL First, everyone got one item that it didn't know what to do with so I had them put it in the general notes. They are all similiar to this... UID 69E11034A6214EF296ABFF4F30217BAB9BAA, do you have any idea what that is ? Second, if the data for the death information source had an actual address for the death, it shows up in the death cause field. Such as Ramsdale place, then the city,county,country went in the usual place. No big problem since I can search for these and move them where they belong. Is there a way to not have this happen on import to Legacy ? Thanks again for the help Lucy --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Brian/Support wrote: > From: Brian/Support > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question on merging two files > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 4:55 AM > When you merge two records in Legacy > the sources from both records are included with the > resulting person. From what you say you may need to review > all the sources attached to your records after you have > imported and merged to eliminate the sources you entered and > leave only the Ancestry sources you prefer to keep. > > Yes, you MUST have the record you want to keep on the left > when doing a merge. The person on the right will disappear > from your file. > > When importing the records from the Ancestry file I suggest > you have the RINs and MRINs from the Ancestry file start at > some large number that will make it clear to you which file > they came from. For example if you have 1000 people and 350 > marriages in your file have the RINS start at 5000 in the > Ancestry file and the MRINs start at 1000. Since the RIN for > the two people is shown on the merge screen you can make > sure that your original person is the one on the left using > the swap left and right button. > > Brian > Customer Support > Millennia Corporation > br...@legacyfamilytree.com > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > > We are changing the world of genealogy! > When replying to this message, please include all previous > correspondence. > Thanks. > > lucee-...@prodigy.net > wrote: > > Sorry about that blank message. > > I read the article on merging two files and have a > question. What I have done is to look up things > (census, etc) on Ancestry and bring them into the family > file that I have posted on the Ancestry site. > > At the same time, I tried to enter them into my > Legacy file here on my laptop. Now what I find is that > Ancestry has done a much better job of filling out the > source information than I have done and would like to take > advantage of that by downloading my family file and merging > it with my Legacy file. My aim would be to get the source > information to move over. My Legacy file is the one > where I have written all my family and research notes so I > don't want to lose them by going the other way. > > Question: Those with more experience at this, > would it be better for me to do it in the reverse and just > do a side by side to move all my notes to the Ancestry file > after I import it back into a new Legacy file ? > > Question: If I merge ancestry into my > legacy file..If I have a birthdate in my legacy file > that is the same as the birthdate on the ancestry file, but > the ancestry file has more sources for it, how do I get the > ancestry info to come over. Do I just pretend they are > "different" and I want the ancestry date to replace what I > have, thus bringing over all the sources. What would > happen to any source that I had for my legacy date, would it > disappear ? > > Question: Do I always want my "to keep" > file on the left of the screen, or is that where it > automatically goes ? > > Hope I have not muddled this up so no one can > understand me. Thanks for any help. > > Lucy > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived > messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question on merging two files
When you merge two records in Legacy the sources from both records are included with the resulting person. From what you say you may need to review all the sources attached to your records after you have imported and merged to eliminate the sources you entered and leave only the Ancestry sources you prefer to keep. Yes, you MUST have the record you want to keep on the left when doing a merge. The person on the right will disappear from your file. When importing the records from the Ancestry file I suggest you have the RINs and MRINs from the Ancestry file start at some large number that will make it clear to you which file they came from. For example if you have 1000 people and 350 marriages in your file have the RINS start at 5000 in the Ancestry file and the MRINs start at 1000. Since the RIN for the two people is shown on the merge screen you can make sure that your original person is the one on the left using the swap left and right button. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. lucee-...@prodigy.net wrote: Sorry about that blank message. I read the article on merging two files and have a question. What I have done is to look up things (census, etc) on Ancestry and bring them into the family file that I have posted on the Ancestry site. At the same time, I tried to enter them into my Legacy file here on my laptop. Now what I find is that Ancestry has done a much better job of filling out the source information than I have done and would like to take advantage of that by downloading my family file and merging it with my Legacy file. My aim would be to get the source information to move over. My Legacy file is the one where I have written all my family and research notes so I don't want to lose them by going the other way. Question: Those with more experience at this, would it be better for me to do it in the reverse and just do a side by side to move all my notes to the Ancestry file after I import it back into a new Legacy file ? Question: If I merge ancestry into my legacy file..If I have a birthdate in my legacy file that is the same as the birthdate on the ancestry file, but the ancestry file has more sources for it, how do I get the ancestry info to come over. Do I just pretend they are "different" and I want the ancestry date to replace what I have, thus bringing over all the sources. What would happen to any source that I had for my legacy date, would it disappear ? Question: Do I always want my "to keep" file on the left of the screen, or is that where it automatically goes ? Hope I have not muddled this up so no one can understand me. Thanks for any help. Lucy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question on merging two files
For #1. I prefer to have two windows on my laptop, Legacy on the left, and whatever website in use on the right, and both not touching each other, so the screens don't pop in and out. For #2. As in the above note, I cut and paste back and forth. I also copy 'pages' from Ancestry, then paste into 'notes', next hit the 'Strip HTML' third I delete all 'other stuff', fourth, hit the 'left buttons' twice in this order, underline x2, italics x2, bold x2. I then save it and reopen it. Now I can remove the rest of the junk, finally spacing it properly. I have never had a Source disappear "Do I just pretend they are "different" and I want the ancestry date to replace what I have, thus bringing over all the sources. What would happen to any source that I had for my legacy date, would it disappear ?" Are you asking about notes, which you may want to append both together, or the Source, which can't be deleted once attach to at least one person? If your notes meed, they can have hundreds of sources for the same notes. I would set up Events to split the notes into a lot of separate ones. I hope I understood what you asked. Rich in LA CA --- On Thu, 5/28/09, lucee-...@prodigy.net wrote: > From: lucee-...@prodigy.net > Subject: [LegacyUG] Question on merging two files > To: "LegacyUserGroup" > Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 10:39 AM > Sorry about that blank > message. > I read the article on merging two files and have a > question. What I have done is to look up things > (census, etc) on Ancestry and bring them into the family > file that I have posted on the Ancestry > site. > > At the same time, I tried to enter them into my Legacy > file here on my laptop. Now what I find is that > Ancestry has done a much better job of filling out the > source information than I have done and would like to take > advantage of that by downloading my family file and merging > it with my Legacy file. My aim would be to get the > source information to move over. My Legacy file is the > one where I have written all my family and research notes so > I don't want to lose them by going the other way. > > Question: Those with more experience at this, would it > be better for me to do it in the reverse and just do a side > by side to move all my notes to the Ancestry file after I > import it back into a new Legacy file ? > > Question: If I merge ancestry into my legacy > file..If I have a birthdate in my legacy file that is > the same as the birthdate on the ancestry file, but the > ancestry file has more sources for it, how do I get the > ancestry info to come over. Do I just pretend they are > "different" and I want the ancestry date to > replace what I have, thus bringing over all the > sources. What would happen to any source that I had > for my legacy date, would it disappear ? > > Question: Do I always want my "to > keep" file on the left of the screen, or is that where > it automatically goes ? > > Hope I have not muddled this up so no one can > understand me. Thanks for any help. > > Lucy > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > > Archived messages: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Question on merging two files
Sorry about that blank message. I read the article on merging two files and have a question. What I have done is to look up things (census, etc) on Ancestry and bring them into the family file that I have posted on the Ancestry site. At the same time, I tried to enter them into my Legacy file here on my laptop. Now what I find is that Ancestry has done a much better job of filling out the source information than I have done and would like to take advantage of that by downloading my family file and merging it with my Legacy file. My aim would be to get the source information to move over. My Legacy file is the one where I have written all my family and research notes so I don't want to lose them by going the other way. Question: Those with more experience at this, would it be better for me to do it in the reverse and just do a side by side to move all my notes to the Ancestry file after I import it back into a new Legacy file ? Question: If I merge ancestry into my legacy file..If I have a birthdate in my legacy file that is the same as the birthdate on the ancestry file, but the ancestry file has more sources for it, how do I get the ancestry info to come over. Do I just pretend they are "different" and I want the ancestry date to replace what I have, thus bringing over all the sources. What would happen to any source that I had for my legacy date, would it disappear ? Question: Do I always want my "to keep" file on the left of the screen, or is that where it automatically goes ? Hope I have not muddled this up so no one can understand me. Thanks for any help. Lucy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question
The same way you sent this one. Colin. - Original Message - From: Bill Rhodes To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:20 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Question I just signed up. How do I post questions to the group? Bill Rhodes Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question
By just putting your question here! Hope you enjoy the group, it can be very useful. -- - - - - - - - Elizabeth researching ALLAMBRIDGE (Dorset, Somerset and anywhere else they might turn up) 2009/4/28 Bill Rhodes : > I just signed up. How do I post questions to the group? > > Bill Rhodes > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question
Hi Bill, Welcome to the group. You've just made a successful post to the group, so keep on doing that to ask your questions! What made it work was sending your email to LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Kind Regards, Wendy - Original Message - *From:* Bill Rhodes *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com *Sent:* 04/29/2009 7:20:44 AM +1200 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Question I just signed up. How do I post questions to the group? Bill Rhodes Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Question
I just signed up. How do I post questions to the group? Bill Rhodes
[LegacyUG] Question on Geo-Code
Using Legacy 7.0.0.90, Windows XP Per Sherry's advice (when I was having mapping issues) I used the geo-code all unresolved locations. This resolved the problem existing at that time. Now, in looking at my master location list I'm finding that perhaps 7 out of 10 locations are incorrect, even though all of the towns in my location list appear on the Google maps.. For instance, the balloon for Charlton, Massachusetts is NE of Marlborough -- a long ways from Charlton. Cedar Falls Iowa shows up on the town of Sinclair, Des Moines, Iowa shows up a long way from Des Moines, and on and on. I have been correcting this by right-clicking on the correct location and resetting to it. 1. Should I be arbitrarily resetting in this fashion? 2. Or should I be looking the location up on, say, USGS Earth Explorer, and manually changing the lat/long information? No. 1 will take a long time since there are hundreds of locations in my list. No. 2 would take a very long time. Is there something I should be doing in the process to eliminate all of the make-work? Thanks, Kay Fordham (sunny Temecula, CA) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about "Vacation Event" and Thank You for Godparent event ideas.
I have a His/Her Godfather and His/Her Godmother events (2 for each). These are given to a person who's baptism is being recorded. This is used regardless of whether the godfather or godmother is related AND in my database. I have Godfather/Godmother events that I use for the person who is actually the Godfather or Godmother. This event states that the person was the godfather or godmother for so-and-so on such date and in such location. That way if the person is in my database, he/she gets one of these events. If he/she is not, then this event is not recorded. There is not always a one-for-one recording of these. Mary v pedersen wrote: > Hi Again, > > I am wondering if anyone uses a "Vacation" event and if so, how do they > structure the sentence. Or is anyone of the opinion that vacation > information should be just put into general notes? > > > Also, thank you for the Godparent event ideas. I'm still trying to figure > out the best way to handle Godparents, such as related Godparents as opposed > to non-related Godparents. But the ideas are very helpful. Thank you so > much. > > > Vicki Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Question about "Vacation Event" and Thank You for Godparent event ideas.
Hi Again, I am wondering if anyone uses a "Vacation" event and if so, how do they structure the sentence. Or is anyone of the opinion that vacation information should be just put into general notes? Also, thank you for the Godparent event ideas. I'm still trying to figure out the best way to handle Godparents, such as related Godparents as opposed to non-related Godparents. But the ideas are very helpful. Thank you so much. Vicki Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] question on extentions:
What are the circumstances that cause you to want to save these files? Looks like they are all related to your database. A much easier way would be to create a backup of the database and then save the zipped file that creates. You will have all the files you need automagically backed up. Jim - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:11 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] question on extentions: When saving files, I know I have too many. Which files should be saved? .fdb (seems to always be the largest) Are these others needed, and for what .PPL .RGD .ldb CB .FG .Rel ..TC . **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] question on extentions:
They are all necessary parts of your main .FDB file. Do not delete any of them. The LDB file is only there when the Family File is open in Legacy or Legacy Charting. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:12 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] question on extentions: When saving files, I know I have too many. Which files should be saved? .fdb (seems to always be the largest) Are these others needed, and for what .PPL .RGD .ldb CB .FG .Rel ..TC Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] question on extentions:
Click on Help, click Index and type in Extensions and click Display. You will see a list of all the file types in Legacy. Dan - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:11 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] question on extentions: When saving files, I know I have too many. Which files should be saved? .fdb (seems to always be the largest) Are these others needed, and for what .PPL .RGD .ldb CB .FG .Rel ..TC Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] question on extentions:
Those are files that are purposely created BY Legacy and you shouldn't mess with them unless for some reason you intended or intend to delete the corresponding family file (the .fdb of the same name). They are tiny in size so there is absolutely no reason to worry about them. Someone else will likely know the exact functions, but for the most part just assume they are necessary. Gary Templeman - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:11 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] question on extentions: When saving files, I know I have too many. Which files should be saved? .fdb (seems to always be the largest) Are these others needed, and for what .PPL .RGD .ldb CB .FG .Rel ..TC . **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] question on extentions:
When saving files, I know I have too many. Which files should be saved? .fdb (seems to always be the largest) Are these others needed, and for what .PPL .RGD .ldb CB .FG .Rel ..TC . **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing
Jennifer Trahan wrote I don't change the name for each person in a particular household. In the source detail, I just use the head of household's name for everyone in that household. This still makes it easy for someone to go back and find the information in the census record. All they have to do is look for the head of household name on that page and then see everyone else beneath him/her. I do very similar. For any information I am sourcing for the head of the household or members of his household I enter "household of Joseph Bloggs" in that field. If I am sourcing only information related to one person in a household - such as age or place of birth for someone who is a visitor or lodger, for example - then I will enter that individual's name in that field. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing
<> I don't change the name for each person in a particular household. In the source detail, I just use the head of household's name for everyone in that household. This still makes it easy for someone to go back and find the information in the census record. All they have to do is look for the head of household name on that page and then see everyone else beneath him/her. - Original Message From: music-line <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:46:33 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing Hi Jean, Legacy have worked so hard to produce the new sourcewriter in V.7 but it does seem that everyone has a slightly different conception of how to record sources. Whichever system you use there are pros and cons. It is a compromise. I tend to like splitting, for a number of reasons. The way I see it is the master source is attached to individuals, but a separate detailed source is copied to each individual. If you lump the master source, much of the information required for the detailed source is still required by different people, so it means copying it. This means that if you need to edit a Master source you need only do it once, but to edit a detailed source you have to edit it as many times as you have used it. I know there is the clipboard, but I find this is a bit limited. (e.g. In the detail source for census, we are given a field to type the name of the person to whom the 'detail' refers to - this differs every time you cite the same detail source for another person. I have also found that, sometimes, if I make a change to a detail source and copy it to the clipboard and the 'detailed source name' is the same, the clipboard will not overwrite the original - I am cautious about the clipboard sometimes.) By splitting, I can see at a glance who is using a specific (split) master source by clicking on the 'Show List' option. If the master sources are lumped together, to find out who is using the same detail source (and editing it), is more time consuming. The problems with splitting is that you end up with so many master source entries. This is not a problem for me, but some of those with very large databases have argued that the source list is unmanageable. By splitting sources it can cause a problem when Legacy is used to publish printed material. As Ron Ferguson has quite rightly pointed out to me before, "Having them all [the split sources] published in full as footnotes or end-notes in reports and/or web pages would surely make reading the publication an absolute drag". It can add many pages to a printed document. Personally, I do not produce family history web pages, and very rarely produce 'all singing and dancing' printed documents. I use Legacy as a means of recording my own family history research - for me - at the moment.. Everyone works in a slightly different way because everyone uses their database in a slightly different way. The main problem as I see it when the use of your database changes as the years go by. I can imagine there are those (lumpers or spitters) who wish they had started building there database in a different way. To summarize - I don't think there is a definitive answer whether to lump or split master sources. The choice lies with the individual. Best wishes David * David S Brookes Musical Director, The Brewood Singers www.brewoodsingers.co.uk Organist & Choirmaster, Polesworth Abbey www.polesworthabbey.co.uk * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Suplick Sent: 11 November 2008 00:33 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing I've been using Legacy for many years, but recently decided it was time to go back and rethink sourcing. I had been following a method that had developed ad hoc, but now I want to get serious about it. I've read some of the threads on lumping/splitting, and it's led to a couple questions I'm sure some of you more disciplined users can help me with. I'm leaning towards lumping. It makes sense for things like US Census records, SS death index, city directories, and the like. However, for things like memorial cards, what would be the advantages of having one master source called 'Memorial cards"? That's a serious question. There's no common source information that would be shared, so what other reasons are there? Many thanks, Jean Suplick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.
RE: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing
Marion, To give an example using censuses. I have censuses only for each country, year and the place from where I got it ie. I would have Census England 1891 (Ancestry) and Census England 1891 (findmypast). The Details contain all the other information which I use. Splitters might further split these into counties or even towns or families. EG. Census England Lancashire 1891 (Ancestry) 1891, and in the extreme: Census England Lancashire Eccles Smith Family 1891 (Ancestry). Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:43:25 -0700 > > Ronald, I'm not sure what is meant by lumping. > > Marion > - Original Message - > From: "ronald ferguson" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:11 PM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing > > > > Jean, > > I am a confirmed lumper but if therere are no common fields then there > doesn't seem to be much point in lumping. > > I have no doubt there are times when splitting would not make sense either. > > Ron Ferguson > > _ > > *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs > http://www.fergys.co.uk > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _ > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:33:21 -0600 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing > > > I've been using Legacy for many years, but recently decided it was time to > go back and rethink sourcing. I had been following a method that had > developed ad hoc, but now I want to get serious about it. I've read some of > the threads on lumping/splitting, and it's led to a couple questions I'm > sure some of you more disciplined users can help me with. > > I'm leaning towards lumping. It makes sense for things like US Census > records, SS death index, city directories, and the like. > > However, for things like memorial cards, what would be the advantages of > having one master source called 'Memorial cards"? That's a serious question. > There's no common source information that would be shared, so what other > reasons are there? > > Many thanks, > Jean Suplick _ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing
Ronald, I'm not sure what is meant by lumping. Marion - Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:11 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing Jean, I am a confirmed lumper but if therere are no common fields then there doesn't seem to be much point in lumping. I have no doubt there are times when splitting would not make sense either. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:33:21 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing I've been using Legacy for many years, but recently decided it was time to go back and rethink sourcing. I had been following a method that had developed ad hoc, but now I want to get serious about it. I've read some of the threads on lumping/splitting, and it's led to a couple questions I'm sure some of you more disciplined users can help me with. I'm leaning towards lumping. It makes sense for things like US Census records, SS death index, city directories, and the like. However, for things like memorial cards, what would be the advantages of having one master source called 'Memorial cards"? That's a serious question. There's no common source information that would be shared, so what other reasons are there? Many thanks, Jean Suplick _ BigSnapSearch.com - 24 prizes a day, every day - Search Now! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing
Hi Jean, Legacy have worked so hard to produce the new sourcewriter in V.7 but it does seem that everyone has a slightly different conception of how to record sources. Whichever system you use there are pros and cons. It is a compromise. I tend to like splitting, for a number of reasons. The way I see it is the master source is attached to individuals, but a separate detailed source is copied to each individual. If you lump the master source, much of the information required for the detailed source is still required by different people, so it means copying it. This means that if you need to edit a Master source you need only do it once, but to edit a detailed source you have to edit it as many times as you have used it. I know there is the clipboard, but I find this is a bit limited. (e.g. In the detail source for census, we are given a field to type the name of the person to whom the 'detail' refers to - this differs every time you cite the same detail source for another person. I have also found that, sometimes, if I make a change to a detail source and copy it to the clipboard and the 'detailed source name' is the same, the clipboard will not overwrite the original - I am cautious about the clipboard sometimes.) By splitting, I can see at a glance who is using a specific (split) master source by clicking on the 'Show List' option. If the master sources are lumped together, to find out who is using the same detail source (and editing it), is more time consuming. The problems with splitting is that you end up with so many master source entries. This is not a problem for me, but some of those with very large databases have argued that the source list is unmanageable. By splitting sources it can cause a problem when Legacy is used to publish printed material. As Ron Ferguson has quite rightly pointed out to me before, "Having them all [the split sources] published in full as footnotes or end-notes in reports and/or web pages would surely make reading the publication an absolute drag". It can add many pages to a printed document. Personally, I do not produce family history web pages, and very rarely produce 'all singing and dancing' printed documents. I use Legacy as a means of recording my own family history research - for me - at the moment.. Everyone works in a slightly different way because everyone uses their database in a slightly different way. The main problem as I see it when the use of your database changes as the years go by. I can imagine there are those (lumpers or spitters) who wish they had started building there database in a different way. To summarize - I don't think there is a definitive answer whether to lump or split master sources. The choice lies with the individual. Best wishes David * David S Brookes Musical Director, The Brewood Singers www.brewoodsingers.co.uk Organist & Choirmaster, Polesworth Abbey www.polesworthabbey.co.uk * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Suplick Sent: 11 November 2008 00:33 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing I've been using Legacy for many years, but recently decided it was time to go back and rethink sourcing. I had been following a method that had developed ad hoc, but now I want to get serious about it. I've read some of the threads on lumping/splitting, and it's led to a couple questions I'm sure some of you more disciplined users can help me with. I'm leaning towards lumping. It makes sense for things like US Census records, SS death index, city directories, and the like. However, for things like memorial cards, what would be the advantages of having one master source called 'Memorial cards"? That's a serious question. There's no common source information that would be shared, so what other reasons are there? Many thanks, Jean Suplick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing
Jean: I live in a small rural area where , in many case the same funeral home issues memorial cards for many different people. I guess you could call me an"intermediate" lumper since I tend to have a master source for each funeral home. Each person is listed under the funeral home that coordinated their funeral which I find to be very handy information. The memorial card source templates can be found under Artifacts privately held. If I'm not mistaken the HELP section will help lead you appropriately. Kathy At 07:33 PM 11/10/2008, you wrote: I've been using Legacy for many years, but recently decided it was time to go back and rethink sourcingSNIP Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing
For memorial cards, wedding invitations, birth announcements, I lump them into categories for the type of document. Since there is one major person or couple of interest, there is usually nothing to be gained by having a source that is used more than once. If there is some key item for another person, I would just put in the detail "from XX wedding invitation". I like the way the lumped source leads into the detail in a report. I also lump probate records, and handle the detail in the same way. But if I was going to cite the probate record for everyone mentioned, I would not lump it. For some Norwegian probates there is a register which summarizes the people in the record. In Legacy, I just source it the way I would others, but on my website, I don't include any of the detail - I just have a link to a copy of the register. Since I don't use Legacy to create my website, I have the flexibility to treat the two types of entry differently. Shirley ~~ Shirley York Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~syafam/ - Original Message From: Jean Suplick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:33:21 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing I've been using Legacy for many years, but recently decided it was time to go back and rethink sourcing. I had been following a method that had developed ad hoc, but now I want to get serious about it. I've read some of the threads on lumping/splitting, and it's led to a couple questions I'm sure some of you more disciplined users can help me with. I'm leaning towards lumping. It makes sense for things like US Census records, SS death index, city directories, and the like. However, for things like memorial cards, what would be the advantages of having one master source called 'Memorial cards"? That's a serious question. There's no common source information that would be shared, so what other reasons are there? Many thanks, Jean Suplick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing
Jean, I am a confirmed lumper but if therere are no common fields then there doesn't seem to be much point in lumping. I have no doubt there are times when splitting would not make sense either. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:33:21 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Question on sourcing I've been using Legacy for many years, but recently decided it was time to go back and rethink sourcing. I had been following a method that had developed ad hoc, but now I want to get serious about it. I've read some of the threads on lumping/splitting, and it's led to a couple questions I'm sure some of you more disciplined users can help me with. I'm leaning towards lumping. It makes sense for things like US Census records, SS death index, city directories, and the like. However, for things like memorial cards, what would be the advantages of having one master source called 'Memorial cards"? That's a serious question. There's no common source information that would be shared, so what other reasons are there? Many thanks, Jean Suplick _ BigSnapSearch.com - 24 prizes a day, every day - Search Now! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Question on sourcing
I've been using Legacy for many years, but recently decided it was time to go back and rethink sourcing. I had been following a method that had developed ad hoc, but now I want to get serious about it. I've read some of the threads on lumping/splitting, and it's led to a couple questions I'm sure some of you more disciplined users can help me with. I'm leaning towards lumping. It makes sense for things like US Census records, SS death index, city directories, and the like. However, for things like memorial cards, what would be the advantages of having one master source called 'Memorial cards"? That's a serious question. There's no common source information that would be shared, so what other reasons are there? Many thanks, Jean Suplick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question re practicing file
Hello Trish All the replies seem to have missed the point of your question Trish Yes you can make new Legacy Family File under the name/s of your choice, ( e.g.: Practice One and Practice Two), and do whatever makes you happy with these files (Export to Legacy File and/or, Export to Gedcom, Import Gedcom etc. can then delete the practice files without doing any harm to other Legacy files. The main thing to remember is always "BACKUP" your existing family file/s and I also advise that you be very sure not to practice merging etc with your working master family file or tears of misery are liable to flow, remember that magic word "BACKUP". At any time when you feel you are finished with said practice files you can delete them without doing any harm to other Legacy files. \ Reg Brisbane-Australia ** $10 OFF when you spend $50 or more in our store. Use coupon code: =*!Legacy2008=*" at checkout. Offer expires 10/31/08 ** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question re practicing file
For a while I had a person named Dummy Person, for moving sources from one file to another. Then I combined all my files when I got Legacy (and my first XP computer) and files size was no longer an issue. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Tish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Tish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Question re practicing file > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 11:58 AM > I am wondering if I could put into the family files - a fake > file just to practice all the different and wonderful things > that are in Legacy 7. Would this harm all the info I have > in there that is legit? Could I delete it when I am > finished without harming the information that I have on my > own family files? > > Thanks a lot! > > Tish > > > ** $10 OFF when you spend $50 or more in our store. > >Use coupon code: =*!Legacy2008=*" at checkout. > Offer expires 10/31/08 ** > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp ** $10 OFF when you spend $50 or more in our store. Use coupon code: Legacy2008 at checkout. Offer expires 10/31/08 ** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question re practicing file
Tish wrote: I am wondering if I could put into the family files - a fake file just to practice all the different and wonderful things that are in Legacy 7. Would this harm all the info I have in there that is legit? Could I delete it when I am finished without harming the information that I have on my own family files? Thanks a lot! Tish The easiest way is to browse to your Legacy data file in windows explorer, highlite the file named your_name_here.fdb, hit CTRL C, CTRL V and you will have a file called copy of your_name_here.fdb. Rename the copy to TESTFILE.FDB, so there is no mistaking it, and you can experiment on it to your heart's content. As a bonus, you will be seeing what the results look like on your own information. -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer & Cox with Legacy Family Tree http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/ ** $10 OFF when you spend $50 or more in our store. Use coupon code: Legacy2008 at checkout. Offer expires 10/31/08 ** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question re practicing file
Yes, it does, but I assumed the OP was wanting to work with their own file. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: Doesn't Legacy still come with sample.fdb? ** $10 OFF when you spend $50 or more in our store. Use coupon code: Legacy2008 at checkout. Offer expires 10/31/08 ** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question re practicing file
Doesn't Legacy still come with sample.fdb? -- Dennis Kowallek Genealogy Website & Custom Programming http://consulting.kowallekfamily.com/ On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:32:50 -0700, JLB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Work on a copy. Just make sure when you open Legacy you're using the >'Copy of' file, not your original. Put a backup of your original away >somewhere so you don't misuse it. > >If you change Legacy settings while you're working on the copy, that >would probably 'stick' so what I would do is make a backup of my entire >Legacy directory to bring back after I've finished experimenting. If >you have an external hard-drive or flash-drive, send your entire Legacy >directory (look down your folder list in Windows Explorer to find it, if >you're using Windows) and send a copy of it far away for safe-keeping. >You can overwrite your experiment when you're ready to come back. >- >JL >JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists >http://www.jgen.ws/jlog > >Tish wrote: >> I am wondering if I could put into the family files - a fake file just >> to practice all the different and wonderful things that are in Legacy >> 7. Would this harm all the info I have in there that is legit? Could >> I delete it when I am finished without harming the information that I >> have on my own family files? >> >> Thanks a lot! >> >> Tish >> >> ** $10 OFF when you spend $50 or more in our store. >> Use coupon code: =*!Legacy2008=*" at checkout. Offer expires 10/31/08 ** >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >>http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> > > > >** $10 OFF when you spend $50 or more in our store. > Use coupon code: Legacy2008 at checkout. Offer expires 10/31/08 ** >Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > ** $10 OFF when you spend $50 or more in our store. Use coupon code: Legacy2008 at checkout. Offer expires 10/31/08 ** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question re practicing file
Work on a copy. Just make sure when you open Legacy you're using the 'Copy of' file, not your original. Put a backup of your original away somewhere so you don't misuse it. If you change Legacy settings while you're working on the copy, that would probably 'stick' so what I would do is make a backup of my entire Legacy directory to bring back after I've finished experimenting. If you have an external hard-drive or flash-drive, send your entire Legacy directory (look down your folder list in Windows Explorer to find it, if you're using Windows) and send a copy of it far away for safe-keeping. You can overwrite your experiment when you're ready to come back. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Tish wrote: I am wondering if I could put into the family files - a fake file just to practice all the different and wonderful things that are in Legacy 7. Would this harm all the info I have in there that is legit? Could I delete it when I am finished without harming the information that I have on my own family files? Thanks a lot! Tish ** $10 OFF when you spend $50 or more in our store. Use coupon code: =*!Legacy2008=*" at checkout. Offer expires 10/31/08 ** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp ** $10 OFF when you spend $50 or more in our store. Use coupon code: Legacy2008 at checkout. Offer expires 10/31/08 ** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
Jane, Thanks for all of your suggestions. I did stumble upone the solution, with Elizabeths help. It is very similar as what you suggested about the search feature. I do like your other ideas too, as they would get you the same answer but just in a different way. That's what I like about Legacy, it is very flexible. Thanks, Chuck On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Trippsibs5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chuck, > I don't use the research notes, but wanted to look at a few things as I > thought the notes were handy, but not if I can't easily retrieve what I > entered. I looked at the Sample file as Geoff has quite a few. If you want > to go that 'looking up each individual' route, you can see the research > notes from the Name List as Notes is one of the 6 information tabs to the > right of the name list. I chose the notes tab, then selected research. I > scrolled through the name list in the small sample file fairly smoothly as > even though I scrolled through the names, the right side of the screen > remained in Research Notes, allowing me to use just my arrow down key. By > the way, if an individual has research notes, that tab has an asterisk on > the tab. > > What about a search? I 'm not clever enough to get exactly what you want, > but you can search by > whom, Individual; where, Notes, research; contains; the (or some other word > you know is in your notes). > From this list, I played a bit with Individual report and found you can > 'deselect' many items, but include research notes if you need a printed > report. > Knowing I can search the Research Notes for keywords tells me I'm onboard > for using them. > > My favorite though, because you won't miss any, is to add a Research Notes > column to your Index View. Choose Options, select customize. If you save > your current column choices, you can customize another index view that > shows whatever you wish, including RIN, Name, Research Notes. If you name > it & save that customized column preferences, you can load it anytime, > getting a list of all in you file and if they have research notes. > I played with this in the Index View. If your columns are narrow enough in > other areas, and wide enough for research notes, AND your research notes > are short, you can read all in this Index View. I thought it a bit > combersome though and preferred to double click on the individual, bringing > up the Individual Information screen & go to research notes from there. I > never used the Index View until it was suggested on this LUG. You can save > and load quite a few customized views. really comes in handy. > These ideas might not be exactly what you wanted, but the Index View gives > you the ability to see all individuals with research notes. > I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't throw a tagging feature in > somewhere too. This is way too wordy, but one of those things that is easy > to see, hard to explain. > Regards, Jane Tripp > > Original Message - > From: Chuck Arbogast > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 9:34 PM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes > > > Elizabeth, > What you suggest is great for an individual person. I wanted a report > that could list all of the research notes for everyone. It appears that > there is no way of doing that. I may be wrong though. The reason I wanted > to be able to print them all is to see all of the people that have research > notes, so I can open there notes and determine what to be done. If I don't > have that report and I have all of my things that I need to research in the > research notes page for each individual, I would need to browse everyone to > see their notes. If they have notes, I then would need to open them and see > if they had research notes. They may have general or medical notes but not > research notes and then I would have checked their notes for no reason. > Doing it that way would take a lot of time and checking just to find a > person that needed research done on them. So, I guess that I will have to > change all of my research notes to the To-Do list so I can have a overall > printout off everything that I need to research. What's nice about the > printout of the To-Do list is that I can printout the To-Do list in many > different ways. It appears that this is the way for me to go but everyone > has their method of doing things > and that is fine by me. I was just wondering what the majority was doing > with these two different places to record research information. > > Thanks for your input though. It is appreciated. > > Chuck > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Elizabeth Richardson > <[EMAI
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
Chuck, I don't use the research notes, but wanted to look at a few things as I thought the notes were handy, but not if I can't easily retrieve what I entered. I looked at the Sample file as Geoff has quite a few. If you want to go that 'looking up each individual' route, you can see the research notes from the Name List as Notes is one of the 6 information tabs to the right of the name list. I chose the notes tab, then selected research. I scrolled through the name list in the small sample file fairly smoothly as even though I scrolled through the names, the right side of the screen remained in Research Notes, allowing me to use just my arrow down key. By the way, if an individual has research notes, that tab has an asterisk on the tab. What about a search? I 'm not clever enough to get exactly what you want, but you can search by whom, Individual; where, Notes, research; contains; the (or some other word you know is in your notes). >From this list, I played a bit with Individual report and found you can 'deselect' many items, but include research notes if you need a printed report. Knowing I can search the Research Notes for keywords tells me I'm onboard for using them. My favorite though, because you won't miss any, is to add a Research Notes column to your Index View. Choose Options, select customize. If you save your current column choices, you can customize another index view that shows whatever you wish, including RIN, Name, Research Notes. If you name it & save that customized column preferences, you can load it anytime, getting a list of all in you file and if they have research notes. I played with this in the Index View. If your columns are narrow enough in other areas, and wide enough for research notes, AND your research notes are short, you can read all in this Index View. I thought it a bit combersome though and preferred to double click on the individual, bringing up the Individual Information screen & go to research notes from there. I never used the Index View until it was suggested on this LUG. You can save and load quite a few customized views. really comes in handy. These ideas might not be exactly what you wanted, but the Index View gives you the ability to see all individuals with research notes. I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't throw a tagging feature in somewhere too. This is way too wordy, but one of those things that is easy to see, hard to explain. Regards, Jane Tripp Original Message - From: Chuck Arbogast To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes Elizabeth, What you suggest is great for an individual person. I wanted a report that could list all of the research notes for everyone. It appears that there is no way of doing that. I may be wrong though. The reason I wanted to be able to print them all is to see all of the people that have research notes, so I can open there notes and determine what to be done. If I don't have that report and I have all of my things that I need to research in the research notes page for each individual, I would need to browse everyone to see their notes. If they have notes, I then would need to open them and see if they had research notes. They may have general or medical notes but not research notes and then I would have checked their notes for no reason. Doing it that way would take a lot of time and checking just to find a person that needed research done on them. So, I guess that I will have to change all of my research notes to the To-Do list so I can have a overall printout off everything that I need to research. What's nice about the printout of the To-Do list is that I can printout the To-Do list in many different ways. It appears that this is the way for me to go but everyone has their method of doing things and that is fine by me. I was just wondering what the majority was doing with these two different places to record research information. Thanks for your input though. It is appreciated. Chuck On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chuck, with the note open, look at the little "print" button on the right side, third button from the bottom. No, you don't get all the events along with it, but it really is a nice little report. Elizabeth Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
Sorry if anyone got this more than once. My computer went a little weird on me. :) Alanna - Original Message From: Alanna Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:03:57 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes I use the To Do list for my research items, requests, etc. In the general notes I put things like obituaries, newspaper articles, Research on localites that I have needed to clarify locations, etc. In the research notes I put things that I come across in the actualy research like differences in spelling (as well as putting in the aka), thoughts on research, etc. I know some people that use the research notes to put their research log into it, list the sources that they have searched and the results, etc. I hope this helps. Alanna - Original Message From: Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:51:49 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes Hello, I hope this hasn't been covered before. I'm wondering what the difference in the research notes for each individual and the the To-Do list for an individual. I have been putting things that I needed to research for an individual in the research notes and not the To-Do list. At first I didn't think that it was a big deal because I thought that I would be able to run a report on all peoples research notes, but I can't find out how if you can. So, I'm thinking that using the To-Do list would have been better since I can view and print those easily. How is everyone keeping track of the items you need to research? The research notes or the To-Do list? Also, if research notes is not the correct place for future research items, then what is the research notes for? Thanks, Chuck Arbogast Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: =0A http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp =0A Archived messages: =0A http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ =0A Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp =0A To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
Sorry if anyone got this more than once. My computer went a little weird on me. :) Alanna - Original Message From: Alanna Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:03:57 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes I use the To Do list for my research items, requests, etc. In the general notes I put things like obituaries, newspaper articles, Research on localites that I have needed to clarify locations, etc. In the research notes I put things that I come across in the actualy research like differences in spelling (as well as putting in the aka), thoughts on research, etc. I know some people that use the research notes to put their research log into it, list the sources that they have searched and the results, etc. I hope this helps. Alanna - Original Message From: Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:51:49 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes Hello, I hope this hasn't been covered before. I'm wondering what the difference in the research notes for each individual and the the To-Do list for an individual. I have been putting things that I needed to research for an individual in the research notes and not the To-Do list. At first I didn't think that it was a big deal because I thought that I would be able to run a report on all peoples research notes, but I can't find out how if you can. So, I'm thinking that using the To-Do list would have been better since I can view and print those easily. How is everyone keeping track of the items you need to research? The research notes or the To-Do list? Also, if research notes is not the correct place for future research items, then what is the research notes for? Thanks, Chuck Arbogast Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: =0A http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp =0A Archived messages: =0A http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ =0A Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp =0A To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
Elizabeth, Thanks for the tip. That however only give me the research notes that are blank. However, I didn't think about using the search feature to do what I wanted and since you pointed me to the search feature I stumbled on how to do what I want with the research notes. If you go to Detailed Search and fill it out like: Look for whom?: Individual Where to look: Notes-Research How to look: Not Equal to What to look for: (Leave this field blank) Doing this search with show all individuals that have items in the research notes. You can then print the search results. You would have to make sure that research notes is added to the List report options but it would then print out everyone that had research notes. I think that I may do mine this way now since you helped me find a way to do this because I think it is easier to add the item I need research for in the research notes instead of the To-Do list. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, Chuck On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chuck, you can do a search for research notes not blank and tag them. Do you > have v7? It has a search option for missing notes and you could search and > tag those whose research notes are missing. Either way, you have a group > that does have research notes. That, at least, pares down your > possibilities. Once you have your list, you can print a report. That report > can include your research notes of everyone on the list, by customizing the > fields to include. > > And thanks for asking this! I may not be interested in printing all people > in my file with research notes, but I may very well be able to make use of > this printing a list of tagged individuals and customizing the fields to > include. > > Elizabeth > researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson > > - Original Message - From: "Chuck Arbogast" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 5:34 PM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes > > >> Elizabeth, >> What you suggest is great for an individual person. I wanted a >> report that could list all of the research notes for everyone. It >> appears that there is no way of doing that. I may be wrong though. >> The reason I wanted to be able to print them all is to see all of the >> people that have research notes, so I can open there notes and >> determine what to be done. If I don't have that report and I have all >> of my things that I need to research in the research notes page for >> each individual, I would need to browse everyone to see their notes. >> If they have notes, I then would need to open them and see if they had >> research notes. They may have general or medical notes but not >> research notes and then I would have checked their notes for no >> reason. Doing it that way would take a lot of time and checking just >> to find a person that needed research done on them. So, I guess that >> I will have to change all of my research notes to the To-Do list so I >> can have a overall printout off everything that I need to research. >> What's nice about the printout of the To-Do list is that I can >> printout the To-Do list in many different ways. It appears that this >> is the way for me to go but everyone has their method of doing things >> and that is fine by me. I was just wondering what the majority was >> doing with these two different places to record research information. >> >> Thanks for your input though. It is appreciated. >> >> Chuck >> >> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Elizabeth Richardson >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Chuck, with the note open, look at the little "print" button on the right >>> side, third button from the bottom. No, you don't get all the events >>> along >>> with it, but it really is a nice little report. >>> >>> Elizabeth >>> researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Chuck Arbogast" >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 5:14 PM >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes >>> >>> >>>> Margaret, >>>> Thanks for your info. I did check about 4 or 5 pages of the >>>> archives but didn't see my specific questions answered. I also >>>> checked the help file and saw what you wrote. I was just wanting to >>>> see what the general practice is for each type of item. It seems like >>>> the t
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
I use the To Do list for my research items, requests, etc. In the general notes I put things like obituaries, newspaper articles, Research on localites that I have needed to clarify locations, etc. In the research notes I put things that I come across in the actualy research like differences in spelling (as well as putting in the aka), thoughts on research, etc. I know some people that use the research notes to put their research log into it, list the sources that they have searched and the results, etc. I hope this helps. Alanna - Original Message From: Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:51:49 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes Hello, I hope this hasn't been covered before. I'm wondering what the difference in the research notes for each individual and the the To-Do list for an individual. I have been putting things that I needed to research for an individual in the research notes and not the To-Do list. At first I didn't think that it was a big deal because I thought that I would be able to run a report on all peoples research notes, but I can't find out how if you can. So, I'm thinking that using the To-Do list would have been better since I can view and print those easily. How is everyone keeping track of the items you need to research? The research notes or the To-Do list? Also, if research notes is not the correct place for future research items, then what is the research notes for? Thanks, Chuck Arbogast Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
I use the To Do list for my research items, requests, etc. In the general notes I put things like obituaries, newspaper articles, Research on localites that I have needed to clarify locations, etc. In the research notes I put things that I come across in the actualy research like differences in spelling (as well as putting in the aka), thoughts on research, etc. I know some people that use the research notes to put their research log into it, list the sources that they have searched and the results, etc. I hope this helps. Alanna - Original Message From: Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:51:49 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes Hello, I hope this hasn't been covered before. I'm wondering what the difference in the research notes for each individual and the the To-Do list for an individual. I have been putting things that I needed to research for an individual in the research notes and not the To-Do list. At first I didn't think that it was a big deal because I thought that I would be able to run a report on all peoples research notes, but I can't find out how if you can. So, I'm thinking that using the To-Do list would have been better since I can view and print those easily. How is everyone keeping track of the items you need to research? The research notes or the To-Do list? Also, if research notes is not the correct place for future research items, then what is the research notes for? Thanks, Chuck Arbogast Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
I use the To Do list for my research items, requests, etc. In the general notes I put things like obituaries, newspaper articles, Research on localites that I have needed to clarify locations, etc. In the research notes I put things that I come across in the actualy research like differences in spelling (as well as putting in the aka), thoughts on research, etc. I know some people that use the research notes to put their research log into it, list the sources that they have searched and the results, etc. I hope this helps. Alanna - Original Message From: Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:51:49 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes Hello, I hope this hasn't been covered before. I'm wondering what the difference in the research notes for each individual and the the To-Do list for an individual. I have been putting things that I needed to research for an individual in the research notes and not the To-Do list. At first I didn't think that it was a big deal because I thought that I would be able to run a report on all peoples research notes, but I can't find out how if you can. So, I'm thinking that using the To-Do list would have been better since I can view and print those easily. How is everyone keeping track of the items you need to research? The research notes or the To-Do list? Also, if research notes is not the correct place for future research items, then what is the research notes for? Thanks, Chuck Arbogast Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
I use the To Do list for my research items, requests, etc. In the general notes I put things like obituaries, newspaper articles, Research on localites that I have needed to clarify locations, etc. In the research notes I put things that I come across in the actualy research like differences in spelling (as well as putting in the aka), thoughts on research, etc. I know some people that use the research notes to put their research log into it, list the sources that they have searched and the results, etc. I hope this helps. Alanna - Original Message From: Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:51:49 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes Hello, I hope this hasn't been covered before. I'm wondering what the difference in the research notes for each individual and the the To-Do list for an individual. I have been putting things that I needed to research for an individual in the research notes and not the To-Do list. At first I didn't think that it was a big deal because I thought that I would be able to run a report on all peoples research notes, but I can't find out how if you can. So, I'm thinking that using the To-Do list would have been better since I can view and print those easily. How is everyone keeping track of the items you need to research? The research notes or the To-Do list? Also, if research notes is not the correct place for future research items, then what is the research notes for? Thanks, Chuck Arbogast Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
Chuck, you can do a search for research notes not blank and tag them. Do you have v7? It has a search option for missing notes and you could search and tag those whose research notes are missing. Either way, you have a group that does have research notes. That, at least, pares down your possibilities. Once you have your list, you can print a report. That report can include your research notes of everyone on the list, by customizing the fields to include. And thanks for asking this! I may not be interested in printing all people in my file with research notes, but I may very well be able to make use of this printing a list of tagged individuals and customizing the fields to include. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: "Chuck Arbogast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes Elizabeth, What you suggest is great for an individual person. I wanted a report that could list all of the research notes for everyone. It appears that there is no way of doing that. I may be wrong though. The reason I wanted to be able to print them all is to see all of the people that have research notes, so I can open there notes and determine what to be done. If I don't have that report and I have all of my things that I need to research in the research notes page for each individual, I would need to browse everyone to see their notes. If they have notes, I then would need to open them and see if they had research notes. They may have general or medical notes but not research notes and then I would have checked their notes for no reason. Doing it that way would take a lot of time and checking just to find a person that needed research done on them. So, I guess that I will have to change all of my research notes to the To-Do list so I can have a overall printout off everything that I need to research. What's nice about the printout of the To-Do list is that I can printout the To-Do list in many different ways. It appears that this is the way for me to go but everyone has their method of doing things and that is fine by me. I was just wondering what the majority was doing with these two different places to record research information. Thanks for your input though. It is appreciated. Chuck On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chuck, with the note open, look at the little "print" button on the right side, third button from the bottom. No, you don't get all the events along with it, but it really is a nice little report. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: "Chuck Arbogast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes Margaret, Thanks for your info. I did check about 4 or 5 pages of the archives but didn't see my specific questions answered. I also checked the help file and saw what you wrote. I was just wanting to see what the general practice is for each type of item. It seems like the there are two places to put research information. I first thought the best place to put it was in the research notes section, but since I can't call a report up to see all the research notes, it would be hard to use that and determine what I need to work on. Thanks for your input, Chuck On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Margaret Couch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Chuck Don't worry about re-asking questions (although checking the archives of this list is always a good idea). From the help file: "Keep track of your research notes concerning an individual or his/her family. This might include the process by which this individual was found, information about the sources used, and notes about further research that needs to be done." The do to list is a much more structured way of organising your research tasks, the specific fields allow you to run a report for a specific locality, repository, individual or group. Have a look at the sample file and the 'research notes' and 'to do' list entries for Asa Clark BROWN. Just a some people prefer to keep all the information about an individual in the Notes rather than events, some people make extensive use of the research notes and others barely use it. -- Kind Regards Margaret -Original Message- On Behalf Of Chuck Arbogast Sent: Sunday, 29 June 2008 11:52 a.m. Hello, I hope this hasn't been covered before. I'm wondering what the difference in the research notes for each individual and the the To-Do list for an individual. I have been putting things that I needed to research for an individual in the research notes and not the To-Do list. At first I didn't think
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
Elizabeth, What you suggest is great for an individual person. I wanted a report that could list all of the research notes for everyone. It appears that there is no way of doing that. I may be wrong though. The reason I wanted to be able to print them all is to see all of the people that have research notes, so I can open there notes and determine what to be done. If I don't have that report and I have all of my things that I need to research in the research notes page for each individual, I would need to browse everyone to see their notes. If they have notes, I then would need to open them and see if they had research notes. They may have general or medical notes but not research notes and then I would have checked their notes for no reason. Doing it that way would take a lot of time and checking just to find a person that needed research done on them. So, I guess that I will have to change all of my research notes to the To-Do list so I can have a overall printout off everything that I need to research. What's nice about the printout of the To-Do list is that I can printout the To-Do list in many different ways. It appears that this is the way for me to go but everyone has their method of doing things and that is fine by me. I was just wondering what the majority was doing with these two different places to record research information. Thanks for your input though. It is appreciated. Chuck On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chuck, with the note open, look at the little "print" button on the right > side, third button from the bottom. No, you don't get all the events along > with it, but it really is a nice little report. > > Elizabeth > researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson > > - Original Message - From: "Chuck Arbogast" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 5:14 PM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes > > >> Margaret, >> Thanks for your info. I did check about 4 or 5 pages of the >> archives but didn't see my specific questions answered. I also >> checked the help file and saw what you wrote. I was just wanting to >> see what the general practice is for each type of item. It seems like >> the there are two places to put research information. I first thought >> the best place to put it was in the research notes section, but since >> I can't call a report up to see all the research notes, it would be >> hard to use that and determine what I need to work on. >> >> Thanks for your input, >> Chuck >> >> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Margaret Couch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Chuck >>> Don't worry about re-asking questions (although checking the archives of >>> this list is always a good idea). >>> >>> From the help file: "Keep track of your research notes concerning an >>> individual or his/her family. This might include the process by which >>> this >>> individual was found, information about the sources used, and notes about >>> further research that needs to be done." >>> >>> The do to list is a much more structured way of organising your research >>> tasks, the specific fields allow you to run a report for a specific >>> locality, repository, individual or group. >>> >>> Have a look at the sample file and the 'research notes' and 'to do' list >>> entries for Asa Clark BROWN. >>> >>> Just a some people prefer to keep all the information about an individual >>> in >>> the Notes rather than events, some people make extensive use of the >>> research >>> notes and others barely use it. >>> >>> -- >>> Kind Regards >>> Margaret >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> On Behalf Of Chuck Arbogast >>> Sent: Sunday, 29 June 2008 11:52 a.m. >>> >>> Hello, >>> I hope this hasn't been covered before. I'm wondering what the >>> difference in the research notes for each individual and the the To-Do >>> list for an individual. I have been putting things that I needed to >>> research for an individual in the research notes and not the To-Do >>> list. At first I didn't think that it was a big deal because I >>> thought that I would be able to run a report on all peoples research >>> notes, but I can't find out how if you can. So, I'm thinking that >>> using the To-Do list would have been better since I can view and print >>>
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
Mary, Thanks for your info. That is a interesting way to save copies of records. I do that with my source citations. If I need to put in any notes or media for that source or record, I would do it in the source citation. I guess my way of thinking is that research notes or the To-Do list would be a place to put down any items that in need to research. I was going to use the research notes, but since I can't print a list of all the research notes, I think I need to change over to the To-Do lists so I can print all the items that I need to research. Thanks for your info, Chuck On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Mary Fowler Leek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chuck, > > I use the research notes to save copies of records I come across that help > me see very quickly what I've found in the way of records and what is > missing. I don't print them in my reports. They're helpful to copy and paste > into an email when working with someone to resolve a question. They're > always right there and easy to refer to. I also like to attach the actual > images of reports or census sheets, death certificates, draft registration > cards, etc. to the events of people. Once attached to the event for a > person, all I have to do is click on the icon and up pops the record, so I > can double check something, or refresh my memory. > > (I've changed this message to plain text so I don't know how much formatting > will come through but in the research notes, bolding, underlining, italized > text are all used to highlight certain areas to draw my eye when I check the > research notes ... > > example below from one person's research notes: > > Military Records World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Wyoming > Lincoln County Draft Card S > > see image attached to event > > Citation: Registration Location: Lincoln County, Wyoming; Roll: 2022241; > Draft Board: 0. > > Source Information: > > Ancestry.com. World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 [database > on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original > data: United States, Selective Service System. World War I Selective Service > System Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918. Washington, D.C.: National > Archives and Records Administration. M1509, 4,582 rolls. > > Description: > > This database contains an index and images of World War I draft registration > cards completed by approximately 24 million men living in the U.S. in 1917 > and 1918. Information that may be found for an individual includes: name, > place of residence, date and place of birth, race, country of citizenship, > occupation, and employer. > > -- > > U.S. Census 1920 United States Federal Census Wyoming Lincoln Election > District 15 District 68 > > James Simpson, age 45, divorced Colorado Illinois West Virginia > > Enid age 12 Wy CO Kansas > > Eula age 11 Wy CO Kansas > > a boarder, David Williams is living with them ... age 24, single, born in > Colorado > > . image saved > > --- > > 1930 United States Federal Census Wyoming Teton Election District 2 District > 3 > > James Simpson, age 54, divorced Colorado Illinois Virginia > > Eula E Shannon daughter 19 WY age at 1st marriage 19 > > Elmer L Shannon son-in-law 25 Calif age at 1st marriage 25 > > ... image saved > > - > > Database: Montana Death Index, 1907-2002 November 26, 2005 4:25 PM > > Name:James S Simpson > > Age:75 > > Estimated Birth Year:1876 > > Gender:Male > > Death Date:26 Jan 1951 > > Death County:Gallatin > > Index Number:Gal 2027 > > Source:Montana Office of Vital Statistics > > Source Information: > > Montana State Genealogical Society and Ancestry.com. Montana Death Index, > 1907-2002 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2005. Original > data: > > Montana. Montana State Death Registry Index, 1907-1953. Montana State > Genealogical Society, Montana. > > State of Montana. Montana Death Index, 1954-2002. State of Montana > Department of Public Health and Human Services, Office of Vital Statistics, > Helena, Montana. > > -- > > obituary transcript: > > --- JIMMY SIMPSON, Alaskan Pioneer, dies at Montana --- > > Jimmie Simpson, well known Alaskan pioneer, died last week in a Bozeman, > Montana, hospital, members of his family residing here learned last Friday. > Mr. Simpson passed away January 26 from a heart attack. > > He was well known and had many friends throughout Alaska. He made his first > trip to the territory and has lived in Alaska since 1934. He was engaged in > the big game hunting business. > > Surviving him are three daughters who are Enid Nelson, of Texas; Eula > Simpson of Anchorage, and Helen Ferrin of Palmer; a grandson, Jack Leek, and > three great grandchildren, Michael, Cheryl and Jacqueline, all of Palmer. > > Other survivors are two sisters, Mrs. Ida R
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
Chuck, with the note open, look at the little "print" button on the right side, third button from the bottom. No, you don't get all the events along with it, but it really is a nice little report. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: "Chuck Arbogast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes Margaret, Thanks for your info. I did check about 4 or 5 pages of the archives but didn't see my specific questions answered. I also checked the help file and saw what you wrote. I was just wanting to see what the general practice is for each type of item. It seems like the there are two places to put research information. I first thought the best place to put it was in the research notes section, but since I can't call a report up to see all the research notes, it would be hard to use that and determine what I need to work on. Thanks for your input, Chuck On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Margaret Couch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Chuck Don't worry about re-asking questions (although checking the archives of this list is always a good idea). From the help file: "Keep track of your research notes concerning an individual or his/her family. This might include the process by which this individual was found, information about the sources used, and notes about further research that needs to be done." The do to list is a much more structured way of organising your research tasks, the specific fields allow you to run a report for a specific locality, repository, individual or group. Have a look at the sample file and the 'research notes' and 'to do' list entries for Asa Clark BROWN. Just a some people prefer to keep all the information about an individual in the Notes rather than events, some people make extensive use of the research notes and others barely use it. -- Kind Regards Margaret -Original Message- On Behalf Of Chuck Arbogast Sent: Sunday, 29 June 2008 11:52 a.m. Hello, I hope this hasn't been covered before. I'm wondering what the difference in the research notes for each individual and the the To-Do list for an individual. I have been putting things that I needed to research for an individual in the research notes and not the To-Do list. At first I didn't think that it was a big deal because I thought that I would be able to run a report on all peoples research notes, but I can't find out how if you can. So, I'm thinking that using the To-Do list would have been better since I can view and print those easily. How is everyone keeping track of the items you need to research? The research notes or the To-Do list? Also, if research notes is not the correct place for future research items, then what is the research notes for? Thanks, Chuck Arbogast Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
Margaret, Thanks for your info. I did check about 4 or 5 pages of the archives but didn't see my specific questions answered. I also checked the help file and saw what you wrote. I was just wanting to see what the general practice is for each type of item. It seems like the there are two places to put research information. I first thought the best place to put it was in the research notes section, but since I can't call a report up to see all the research notes, it would be hard to use that and determine what I need to work on. Thanks for your input, Chuck On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Margaret Couch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Chuck > Don't worry about re-asking questions (although checking the archives of > this list is always a good idea). > > From the help file: "Keep track of your research notes concerning an > individual or his/her family. This might include the process by which this > individual was found, information about the sources used, and notes about > further research that needs to be done." > > The do to list is a much more structured way of organising your research > tasks, the specific fields allow you to run a report for a specific > locality, repository, individual or group. > > Have a look at the sample file and the 'research notes' and 'to do' list > entries for Asa Clark BROWN. > > Just a some people prefer to keep all the information about an individual in > the Notes rather than events, some people make extensive use of the research > notes and others barely use it. > > -- > Kind Regards > Margaret > > -Original Message- > On Behalf Of Chuck Arbogast > Sent: Sunday, 29 June 2008 11:52 a.m. > > Hello, > I hope this hasn't been covered before. I'm wondering what the > difference in the research notes for each individual and the the To-Do > list for an individual. I have been putting things that I needed to > research for an individual in the research notes and not the To-Do > list. At first I didn't think that it was a big deal because I > thought that I would be able to run a report on all peoples research > notes, but I can't find out how if you can. So, I'm thinking that > using the To-Do list would have been better since I can view and print > those easily. How is everyone keeping track of the items you need to > research? The research notes or the To-Do list? Also, if research > notes is not the correct place for future research items, then what is > the research notes for? > > Thanks, > Chuck Arbogast > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
Chuck, I use the research notes to save copies of records I come across that help me see very quickly what I've found in the way of records and what is missing. I don't print them in my reports. They're helpful to copy and paste into an email when working with someone to resolve a question. They're always right there and easy to refer to. I also like to attach the actual images of reports or census sheets, death certificates, draft registration cards, etc. to the events of people. Once attached to the event for a person, all I have to do is click on the icon and up pops the record, so I can double check something, or refresh my memory. (I've changed this message to plain text so I don't know how much formatting will come through but in the research notes, bolding, underlining, italized text are all used to highlight certain areas to draw my eye when I check the research notes ... example below from one person's research notes: Military Records World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Wyoming Lincoln County Draft Card S see image attached to event Citation: Registration Location: Lincoln County, Wyoming; Roll: 2022241; Draft Board: 0. Source Information: Ancestry.com. World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original data: United States, Selective Service System. World War I Selective Service System Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. M1509, 4,582 rolls. Description: This database contains an index and images of World War I draft registration cards completed by approximately 24 million men living in the U.S. in 1917 and 1918. Information that may be found for an individual includes: name, place of residence, date and place of birth, race, country of citizenship, occupation, and employer. -- U.S. Census 1920 United States Federal Census Wyoming Lincoln Election District 15 District 68 James Simpson, age 45, divorced Colorado Illinois West Virginia Enid age 12 Wy CO Kansas Eula age 11 Wy CO Kansas a boarder, David Williams is living with them ... age 24, single, born in Colorado . image saved --- 1930 United States Federal Census Wyoming Teton Election District 2 District 3 James Simpson, age 54, divorced Colorado Illinois Virginia Eula E Shannon daughter 19 WY age at 1st marriage 19 Elmer L Shannon son-in-law 25 Calif age at 1st marriage 25 ... image saved - Database: Montana Death Index, 1907-2002 November 26, 2005 4:25 PM Name:James S Simpson Age:75 Estimated Birth Year:1876 Gender:Male Death Date:26 Jan 1951 Death County:Gallatin Index Number:Gal 2027 Source:Montana Office of Vital Statistics Source Information: Montana State Genealogical Society and Ancestry.com. Montana Death Index, 1907-2002 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2005. Original data: Montana. Montana State Death Registry Index, 1907-1953. Montana State Genealogical Society, Montana. State of Montana. Montana Death Index, 1954-2002. State of Montana Department of Public Health and Human Services, Office of Vital Statistics, Helena, Montana. -- obituary transcript: --- JIMMY SIMPSON, Alaskan Pioneer, dies at Montana --- Jimmie Simpson, well known Alaskan pioneer, died last week in a Bozeman, Montana, hospital, members of his family residing here learned last Friday. Mr. Simpson passed away January 26 from a heart attack. He was well known and had many friends throughout Alaska. He made his first trip to the territory and has lived in Alaska since 1934. He was engaged in the big game hunting business. Surviving him are three daughters who are Enid Nelson, of Texas; Eula Simpson of Anchorage, and Helen Ferrin of Palmer; a grandson, Jack Leek, and three great grandchildren, Michael, Cheryl and Jacqueline, all of Palmer. Other survivors are two sisters, Mrs. Ida Redmond and Mrs. Pearl Crandall, and two brothers, Alva and Claude Simpson, all residing in the states. Mr. Simpson was a pioneer all of his life as he not only helped settle new places but he always looked forward to new things. He was a member of the Odd Fellows lodge in Anchorage and the Moose lodge in Palmer. Members of his family here said that they wish to extend thanks to all of his friends who made life so worth while for him. [text of Obituary for Jimmy Simpson transcribed from an undated Alaskan newspaper article in the possession of Michael N. Leek, ggrandson] --- I use the "to do things" for things that actually need doing, like reminding myself to transcribe an obit and where I can find the clipping, or checking for a s
RE: [LegacyUG] Question about research notes
Hi Chuck Don't worry about re-asking questions (although checking the archives of this list is always a good idea). >From the help file: "Keep track of your research notes concerning an individual or his/her family. This might include the process by which this individual was found, information about the sources used, and notes about further research that needs to be done." The do to list is a much more structured way of organising your research tasks, the specific fields allow you to run a report for a specific locality, repository, individual or group. Have a look at the sample file and the 'research notes' and 'to do' list entries for Asa Clark BROWN. Just a some people prefer to keep all the information about an individual in the Notes rather than events, some people make extensive use of the research notes and others barely use it. -- Kind Regards Margaret -Original Message- On Behalf Of Chuck Arbogast Sent: Sunday, 29 June 2008 11:52 a.m. Hello, I hope this hasn't been covered before. I'm wondering what the difference in the research notes for each individual and the the To-Do list for an individual. I have been putting things that I needed to research for an individual in the research notes and not the To-Do list. At first I didn't think that it was a big deal because I thought that I would be able to run a report on all peoples research notes, but I can't find out how if you can. So, I'm thinking that using the To-Do list would have been better since I can view and print those easily. How is everyone keeping track of the items you need to research? The research notes or the To-Do list? Also, if research notes is not the correct place for future research items, then what is the research notes for? Thanks, Chuck Arbogast Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Question about research notes
Hello, I hope this hasn't been covered before. I'm wondering what the difference in the research notes for each individual and the the To-Do list for an individual. I have been putting things that I needed to research for an individual in the research notes and not the To-Do list. At first I didn't think that it was a big deal because I thought that I would be able to run a report on all peoples research notes, but I can't find out how if you can. So, I'm thinking that using the To-Do list would have been better since I can view and print those easily. How is everyone keeping track of the items you need to research? The research notes or the To-Do list? Also, if research notes is not the correct place for future research items, then what is the research notes for? Thanks, Chuck Arbogast Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books
Kirsten, Thanks for the recomendation. I will probably end up doing something like what you describe. Chuck On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Kirsten Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chuck: > > A simple solution might be to use both. In the page field you could use > something like this: 578 (.pdf), 2880 (book). This is similar to the > recommended format for census citations where there are page numbers both > penned and stamped. > > Kirsten > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck > Arbogast > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:20 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books > > > Dermont, > I understand what your saying and do agree to a point. Page 578 is > the page on the pdf, however the pdf's were not split up due to size > constraints. The actual book, hard back edition, is broken into 5 > volumes, so that is why the CD version is in 5 CD's, you could get > them one one CD or they could have combined them into one pdf but they > chose to stick with the format of the hard back book to generate the > pdf's for the CD version. What is confusing to me is why they didn't > renumber each Volume in the hard back version. That is what I was > confused about. I guess the main question is what am I sourcing, the > pdf of the volume of the book or the actual volume of the book. Based > on the source writer options, I thought soucing the actual item I held > in my possesion was correct thus the CD pdf. But the pdf is just a > scanned version of the actual pages in the book. I may have just made > it more confusing but I'm not sure the best way to source it. > > Thanks for your input, > Chuck > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Dermot McGlone > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Chuck, >> >> I just read over my reply to you and it didn't make sense even to me >> (and I wrote it!!), so I'll try it again. >> >> Regarding the page numbers, I would use the number that is displayed >> on the "page" itself (i.e., 2880) rather than 578. In my opinion, 578 >> is the "pdf-generated" number which shows that the particular page is >> the 578th in this portion of the document, but 2880 is the page number >> of the "original" book. The fact that the book had to be split over 5 >> CDs when transferred to PDF is incidental, and it's page numbering is, >> therefore, incidental also. >> >> Sorry for the repetition, but hopefully this makes more sense. >> >> Regards, >> >> Dermot. >> > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books
Chuck: A simple solution might be to use both. In the page field you could use something like this: 578 (.pdf), 2880 (book). This is similar to the recommended format for census citations where there are page numbers both penned and stamped. Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Arbogast Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:20 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books Dermont, I understand what your saying and do agree to a point. Page 578 is the page on the pdf, however the pdf's were not split up due to size constraints. The actual book, hard back edition, is broken into 5 volumes, so that is why the CD version is in 5 CD's, you could get them one one CD or they could have combined them into one pdf but they chose to stick with the format of the hard back book to generate the pdf's for the CD version. What is confusing to me is why they didn't renumber each Volume in the hard back version. That is what I was confused about. I guess the main question is what am I sourcing, the pdf of the volume of the book or the actual volume of the book. Based on the source writer options, I thought soucing the actual item I held in my possesion was correct thus the CD pdf. But the pdf is just a scanned version of the actual pages in the book. I may have just made it more confusing but I'm not sure the best way to source it. Thanks for your input, Chuck On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Dermot McGlone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chuck, > > I just read over my reply to you and it didn't make sense even to me > (and I wrote it!!), so I'll try it again. > > Regarding the page numbers, I would use the number that is displayed > on the "page" itself (i.e., 2880) rather than 578. In my opinion, 578 > is the "pdf-generated" number which shows that the particular page is > the 578th in this portion of the document, but 2880 is the page number > of the "original" book. The fact that the book had to be split over 5 > CDs when transferred to PDF is incidental, and it's page numbering is, > therefore, incidental also. > > Sorry for the repetition, but hopefully this makes more sense. > > Regards, > > Dermot. > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books
Dermont, I understand what your saying and do agree to a point. Page 578 is the page on the pdf, however the pdf's were not split up due to size constraints. The actual book, hard back edition, is broken into 5 volumes, so that is why the CD version is in 5 CD's, you could get them one one CD or they could have combined them into one pdf but they chose to stick with the format of the hard back book to generate the pdf's for the CD version. What is confusing to me is why they didn't renumber each Volume in the hard back version. That is what I was confused about. I guess the main question is what am I sourcing, the pdf of the volume of the book or the actual volume of the book. Based on the source writer options, I thought soucing the actual item I held in my possesion was correct thus the CD pdf. But the pdf is just a scanned version of the actual pages in the book. I may have just made it more confusing but I'm not sure the best way to source it. Thanks for your input, Chuck On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Dermot McGlone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chuck, > > I just read over my reply to you and it didn't make sense even to me > (and I wrote it!!), so I'll try it again. > > Regarding the page numbers, I would use the number that is displayed > on the "page" itself (i.e., 2880) rather than 578. In my opinion, 578 > is the "pdf-generated" number which shows that the particular page is > the 578th in this portion of the document, but 2880 is the page number > of the "original" book. The fact that the book had to be split over 5 > CDs when transferred to PDF is incidental, and it's page numbering is, > therefore, incidental also. > > Sorry for the repetition, but hopefully this makes more sense. > > Regards, > > Dermot. > > 2008/6/27 Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Mary, >> Thanks for that. It was a case that I didn't notice the scroll bar >> to go down to enter that info. >> >> Richard, >> Thanks for your input. >> >> To all, >> Do you have any answers/opinions on the rest of my questions? >> >> Thanks, >> Chuck > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books
Jenny, Thanks for the suggestion. That is definatly a work around. I don't know how often it would come up but it could happen, so I guess I thought that Legacy could build that in to the program. Maybe in an update. :) I thought that it would be best to have both page numbers too, I just didn't know if there was a best practice. I might just add the word "pdf page #" to my notation to make clear which page it would be. My first thought is that I'm sourcing the pdf, not the book, so I should use the pdf's page number but since the "real" page numbers from the book are on the pdf, I was uncertain. Thanks for your input, Chuck On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chuck Arbogast wrote >> >> Charles Joseph Eades and Frances (Yeager) Dunham Ph. D., Descendants of >> Michael Arbogast (ca. 1734-1812), 5 Volumes , IV: 578 (2880); (N.p.: n.p., >> n.d.). >> >> >> What if there are more than two authors? > > I would copy that Endnote/Footnote from the Preview, then switch to the > Overrides tab and paste that text into the top box, then add "and Third Author> before the first comma." > > Then you'd need to copy the Subsequent Citation and Bibliography and paste > into the appropriate boxes. Don't forget to tick the boxes for "Use this > customised ..." >> >> Each volume is on a separate CD containing one pdf file. The page number >> is 578 in the pdf file but at the bottom of the text is the page number and >> it has 2880, hence why I put 578 (2880). Is this correct way of doing it? >> Volume III pdf last page in the text says 2304 and the first page in the >> Volume IV pdf text has 2305. So, each pdf has page numbers in the text that >> don't correspond with the actual page number in the pdf. My guess is on the >> original hard back volumes the page that I want to source would be 2880, so >> I was a little confused which one to use. Any help would be appreciated. > > Where an "additional" number has been added to a document, such as a page > number which is stamped on in addition to a printed number, I believe it is > best practice to indicate that by something like "page 3 (stamped)". In > your case, I think it would be a good idea to use both numbers, as you have > done, but indicate that one is the .pdf page number. I think I'd enter the > page number as "2880 (pdf page 578)". > > -- > Jenny M Benson > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books
Margaret, Thanks for the tip. That would be a good place to help on how to source it. I was wanting to use the source writer for all of my souces so I would be somewhat forced to be consistant. Although, I know that even the source writer allows for some flexability. Thanks again for the tip, Chuck On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Margaret Couch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a tip for citing publications while you are learning what might go > where - try looking the title up on the internet to see how they are > catalogued by some libraries or publishers, for example this from Williamson > County Public Library > > Author: Eades, Charles Joseph. > Title: Descendants of Michael Arbogast (ca. 1734-1812) [electronic resource] > / compiled by Charles Joseph Eades, with research assistance from Amanda > (Arbogast) Forbes. > Publisher: Franklin, Tenn. : Westbrook Pub., c1995. > > Descript 5 volumes. > Note Includes index. > Contents Vol. I - John Arbogast. Vol. II - David Arbogast, Michael Arbogast, > Peter Arbogast. Vol. III - Mary Arbogast, Dorothy Arbogast, Henry Arbogast, > George Arbosgast. Vol. IV - Adam Arbogast. Vol. V - Combined index. > Subject Biography -- Arbogast family. > Arbogast family. > Co-author Forbes, Amanda Arbogast. > > -- > Kind Regards > Margaret > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books
Just a tip for citing publications while you are learning what might go where - try looking the title up on the internet to see how they are catalogued by some libraries or publishers, for example this from Williamson County Public Library Author: Eades, Charles Joseph. Title: Descendants of Michael Arbogast (ca. 1734-1812) [electronic resource] / compiled by Charles Joseph Eades, with research assistance from Amanda (Arbogast) Forbes. Publisher: Franklin, Tenn. : Westbrook Pub., c1995. Descript 5 volumes. Note Includes index. Contents Vol. I - John Arbogast. Vol. II - David Arbogast, Michael Arbogast, Peter Arbogast. Vol. III - Mary Arbogast, Dorothy Arbogast, Henry Arbogast, George Arbosgast. Vol. IV - Adam Arbogast. Vol. V - Combined index. Subject Biography -- Arbogast family. Arbogast family. Co-author Forbes, Amanda Arbogast. -- Kind Regards Margaret Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books
Chuck Arbogast wrote Charles Joseph Eades and Frances (Yeager) Dunham Ph. D., Descendants of Michael Arbogast (ca. 1734-1812), 5 Volumes , IV: 578 (2880); (N.p.: n.p., n.d.). What if there are more than two authors? I would copy that Endnote/Footnote from the Preview, then switch to the Overrides tab and paste that text into the top box, then add "and of Third Author> before the first comma." Then you'd need to copy the Subsequent Citation and Bibliography and paste into the appropriate boxes. Don't forget to tick the boxes for "Use this customised ..." Each volume is on a separate CD containing one pdf file. The page number is 578 in the pdf file but at the bottom of the text is the page number and it has 2880, hence why I put 578 (2880). Is this correct way of doing it? Volume III pdf last page in the text says 2304 and the first page in the Volume IV pdf text has 2305. So, each pdf has page numbers in the text that don't correspond with the actual page number in the pdf. My guess is on the original hard back volumes the page that I want to source would be 2880, so I was a little confused which one to use. Any help would be appreciated. Where an "additional" number has been added to a document, such as a page number which is stamped on in addition to a printed number, I believe it is best practice to indicate that by something like "page 3 (stamped)". In your case, I think it would be a good idea to use both numbers, as you have done, but indicate that one is the .pdf page number. I think I'd enter the page number as "2880 (pdf page 578)". -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books
Chuck, I just read over my reply to you and it didn't make sense even to me (and I wrote it!!), so I'll try it again. Regarding the page numbers, I would use the number that is displayed on the "page" itself (i.e., 2880) rather than 578. In my opinion, 578 is the "pdf-generated" number which shows that the particular page is the 578th in this portion of the document, but 2880 is the page number of the "original" book. The fact that the book had to be split over 5 CDs when transferred to PDF is incidental, and it's page numbering is, therefore, incidental also. Sorry for the repetition, but hopefully this makes more sense. Regards, Dermot. 2008/6/27 Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Mary, > Thanks for that. It was a case that I didn't notice the scroll bar > to go down to enter that info. > > Richard, > Thanks for your input. > > To all, > Do you have any answers/opinions on the rest of my questions? > > Thanks, > Chuck Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books
Chuck, Regarding the page numbers, I would use the number that is displayed on the "page" itself (i.e. 2880) rather than 578, as, in my opinion, that number is only for that particular volume, but it sounds like it's one big book that had to be split over 5 CDs as it was too big. That's how I'd do it, anyway, but what do I know!! Regards, Dermot. 2008/6/27 Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Mary, > Thanks for that. It was a case that I didn't notice the scroll bar > to go down to enter that info. > > Richard, > Thanks for your input. > > To all, > Do you have any answers/opinions on the rest of my questions? > > Thanks, > Chuck > > On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Mary Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Chuck >> >> <<> very end of that source?>>> >> >> N.p. = no place >> n.p. = no publisher >> n.d. = no date >> >> (Because the format is supposed to follow the format of place, publisher, >> date.) >> >> Mary >> >> >> Buying or selling a home? Click here for free info on real estate services. >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iie8WmWwNrZrEDLfB4Dn1DJj7I93pQvpStvG3SfcH46Rl36Gg/ >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> >> > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > -- Try out Legacy Family Tree Software today! It's FREE!! http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/?Click=1440 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books
Mary, Thanks for that. It was a case that I didn't notice the scroll bar to go down to enter that info. Richard, Thanks for your input. To all, Do you have any answers/opinions on the rest of my questions? Thanks, Chuck On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Mary Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chuck > > << very end of that source?>>> > > N.p. = no place > n.p. = no publisher > n.d. = no date > > (Because the format is supposed to follow the format of place, publisher, > date.) > > Mary > > > Buying or selling a home? Click here for free info on real estate services. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iie8WmWwNrZrEDLfB4Dn1DJj7I93pQvpStvG3SfcH46Rl36Gg/ > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books
IMHO, put your paragraph starting with 'Each volume' in the either thet Publication area, or the notes area, or both. I am guessing on the NP stuff, but it frequently means No Progeny (in Latin?) ND may mean No Descendants. One may mean no adult heirs, or no adult male heirs. You might check if the book has a prefix or index taht might show the abbreviations used. Rich in LA CA --- Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > I have just recently received a book on CD that > has my family > history. I have a few questions about how to source > this book on CD. > Actually there are 5 CD's, one for each volume. > This is a pdf version > of the original hardback version. So, I chose, > "Book, authored > (reprint)", then "Two authors", then "CD/DVD book > (text)". I believe > this is the correct source path. I have multiple > questions about this > source and source output. > > Here is the Footnote/Endnote Citation: > Charles Joseph Eades and Frances (Yeager) Dunham Ph. > D., Descendants > of Michael Arbogast (ca. 1734-1812), 5 Volumes , IV: > 578 (2880); > (N.p.: n.p., n.d.). > > My questions: > Is this the correct way to source this book on CD? > > What if there are more than two authors? > > Each volume is on a separate CD containing one pdf > file. The page > number is 578 in the pdf file but at the bottom of > the text is the > page number and it has 2880, hence why I put 578 > (2880). Is this > correct way of doing it? Volume III pdf last page > in the text says > 2304 and the first page in the Volume IV pdf text > has 2305. So, each > pdf has page numbers in the text that don't > correspond with the actual > page number in the pdf. My guess is on the original > hard back volumes > the page that I want to source would be 2880, so I > was a little > confused which one to use. Any help would be > appreciated. > > And last but not least, what does "(N.p.: n.p., > n.d.)" mean at the > very end of that source? > > Again, any answers or opinions are appreciated. > > Thanks, > Chuck Arbogast > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books
Chuck <<>> N.p. = no place n.p. = no publisher n.d. = no date (Because the format is supposed to follow the format of place, publisher, date.) Mary Buying or selling a home? Click here for free info on real estate services. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iie8WmWwNrZrEDLfB4Dn1DJj7I93pQvpStvG3SfcH46Rl36Gg/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books
Hello, I have just recently received a book on CD that has my family history. I have a few questions about how to source this book on CD. Actually there are 5 CD's, one for each volume. This is a pdf version of the original hardback version. So, I chose, "Book, authored (reprint)", then "Two authors", then "CD/DVD book (text)". I believe this is the correct source path. I have multiple questions about this source and source output. Here is the Footnote/Endnote Citation: Charles Joseph Eades and Frances (Yeager) Dunham Ph. D., Descendants of Michael Arbogast (ca. 1734-1812), 5 Volumes , IV: 578 (2880); (N.p.: n.p., n.d.). My questions: Is this the correct way to source this book on CD? What if there are more than two authors? Each volume is on a separate CD containing one pdf file. The page number is 578 in the pdf file but at the bottom of the text is the page number and it has 2880, hence why I put 578 (2880). Is this correct way of doing it? Volume III pdf last page in the text says 2304 and the first page in the Volume IV pdf text has 2305. So, each pdf has page numbers in the text that don't correspond with the actual page number in the pdf. My guess is on the original hard back volumes the page that I want to source would be 2880, so I was a little confused which one to use. Any help would be appreciated. And last but not least, what does "(N.p.: n.p., n.d.)" mean at the very end of that source? Again, any answers or opinions are appreciated. Thanks, Chuck Arbogast Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question regarding existing sources and source writer
Yes you are doing something wrong. You are not understanding that combining one source with another wipes out the first Master Source and replaces it with the second. If you want the Master source text from the first source to be included in the second new source, you must copy and paste it - the same with evey other bit of the source. BTW - I haven't had success in combining sources this way from old to new and then getting them to print OK with source detail in either the Output scren in sources or in reports. I'm waiting for the Source Converter or until I have heaps more time to check this out more thoroughly. Cathy At 08:09 AM 10/06/2008, you wrote: I find if I create a new source via SourceWriter and then combine with the old source NONE of the Master Source 'Text of Source' is retained from the original (basic) Master Source. The source detail text is retained, but not the text entered in the Master Text of Source tab in the 'old' / 'basic' source template which is where I add my full census transcriptions etc)... I must be doing something wrong, but no idea what (groan). Is anyone else finding this too or is it just me? PS I wholeheartedly agree with Gary about the confusion... Additionally the side by side method (as with merging) would allow us to copy info from one to the other choosing to keep all, some or none from the old source Connie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question regarding existing sources and source writer
I find if I create a new source via SourceWriter and then combine with the old source NONE of the Master Source 'Text of Source' is retained from the original (basic) Master Source. The source detail text is retained, but not the text entered in the Master Text of Source tab in the 'old' / 'basic' source template which is where I add my full census transcriptions etc)... I must be doing something wrong, but no idea what (groan). Is anyone else finding this too or is it just me? PS I wholeheartedly agree with Gary about the confusion... Additionally the side by side method (as with merging) would allow us to copy info from one to the other choosing to keep all, some or none from the old source Connie > What I have done is create a new Source with the SourceWriter, copying > information from an existing Source. Then I highlight the old Source, > click on "Combine Highlighted Source with Another in List...", highlight > the new Source created with SourceWriter and click the Combine button > again. > All instances of the "old" Source will be changed to the "new" Source. > Most (all?) of the information in Source Details will be copied over to > the new version of Source Details, but you will need to check each one if > you want to add anything or change the layout at all. My pet peeve with the source combining process is that it is easy to combine the wrong way. I would prefer it work similar to merging individuals, where both records were displayed side by side, it is clear which is primary and which is secondary, and you can see what information will be maintained, what will be added, and what may still need to be edited. With source combining I never remember whether it is the first or second that is kept. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question regarding existing sources and source writer
- Original Message - From: "Jenny M Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What I have done is create a new Source with the SourceWriter, copying information from an existing Source. Then I highlight the old Source, click on "Combine Highlighted Source with Another in List...", highlight the new Source created with SourceWriter and click the Combine button again. All instances of the "old" Source will be changed to the "new" Source. Most (all?) of the information in Source Details will be copied over to the new version of Source Details, but you will need to check each one if you want to add anything or change the layout at all. -- Jenny M Benson My pet peeve with the source combining process is that it is easy to combine the wrong way. I would prefer it work similar to merging individuals, where both records were displayed side by side, it is clear which is primary and which is secondary, and you can see what information will be maintained, what will be added, and what may still need to be edited. With source combining I never remember whether it is the first or second that is kept. Gary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question regarding existing sources and source writer
legacy wrote Is there any way to "call up" the source writer from within an existing source? I would like to change existing sources to the new format, but see a problem in that there are many people for whom a "source" might exist. I don't want to have to go in and manually make the change for each and every person, and place an existing source appears. What I have done is create a new Source with the SourceWriter, copying information from an existing Source. Then I highlight the old Source, click on "Combine Highlighted Source with Another in List...", highlight the new Source created with SourceWriter and click the Combine button again. All instances of the "old" Source will be changed to the "new" Source. Most (all?) of the information in Source Details will be copied over to the new version of Source Details, but you will need to check each one if you want to add anything or change the layout at all. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question regarding existing sources and source writer
I effectively asked that same question recently (thanks to everyone that answered). The manual describes a source conversion tool which will help to translate existing sources into the new format. It hasn't actually been made available yet, but will (it is expected) be in an update in due course. Regards Bob Howes Carlisle UK - Original Message - From: "legacy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 3:51 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Question regarding existing sources and source writer Is there any way to "call up" the source writer from within an existing source? I would like to change existing sources to the new format, but see a problem in that there are many people for whom a "source" might exist. I don't want to have to go in and manually make the change for each and every person, and place an existing source appears. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Question regarding existing sources and source writer
Is there any way to "call up" the source writer from within an existing source? I would like to change existing sources to the new format, but see a problem in that there are many people for whom a "source" might exist. I don't want to have to go in and manually make the change for each and every person, and place an existing source appears. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question Regarding Location/ Census Records
Thank you, Janis and Dawn. You have both been a big help! (And no, Janis, your response was not pedantic at all. I appreciate the info you provided.) Roxanne Baird --- On Sat, 5/31/08, Dawn Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Dawn Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question Regarding Location/ Census Records To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, May 31, 2008, 11:07 AM Yes, I would. Many of my ancestors did not live in town because they were farmers. If the smallest census jurisdiction at a given time was "Precinct J" or "District 4", then that is what I input. Folks can stay put while county and other boundaries change. Dawn Roxanne wrote: > Thanks, Dawn, for your response. What I'm asking specifically is what > to put in the location field, which will ultimately end up in the > Location Master List. I do record all information in the "Notes" > field. Would you put "Civil District 4, Rhea County, TN, USA" in the > Location field for a Census event? I'd like to make sure that I'm not > causing problems for myself in the future. > > Roxanne Baird > > --- On Sat, 5/31/08, Dawn Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Dawn Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question Regarding Location/ Census Records > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Saturday, May 31, 2008, 1:49 AM > >I record whatever the census says, even if it's "district 4". > >Dawn > >Roxanne wrote: > >> I rely heavily on census records in my individual records. For those >> of you who transcribe such records, how do you handle locations where >> towns/townships are not listed? I am tempted to use things like, >> "District 4, Rhea County, TN, USA", but aside from personal >> preference, is there a standard approach? >> >> Roxanne Baird >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >>http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> > > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question Regarding Location/ Census Records
Yes, I would. Many of my ancestors did not live in town because they were farmers. If the smallest census jurisdiction at a given time was "Precinct J" or "District 4", then that is what I input. Folks can stay put while county and other boundaries change. Dawn Roxanne wrote: Thanks, Dawn, for your response. What I'm asking specifically is what to put in the location field, which will ultimately end up in the Location Master List. I do record all information in the "Notes" field. Would you put "Civil District 4, Rhea County, TN, USA" in the Location field for a Census event? I'd like to make sure that I'm not causing problems for myself in the future. Roxanne Baird --- On Sat, 5/31/08, Dawn Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Dawn Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question Regarding Location/ Census Records To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, May 31, 2008, 1:49 AM I record whatever the census says, even if it's "district 4". Dawn Roxanne wrote: I rely heavily on census records in my individual records. For those of you who transcribe such records, how do you handle locations where towns/townships are not listed? I am tempted to use things like, "District 4, Rhea County, TN, USA", but aside from personal preference, is there a standard approach? Roxanne Baird Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question Regarding Location/ Census Records
Thanks, Dawn, for your response. What I'm asking specifically is what to put in the location field, which will ultimately end up in the Location Master List. I do record all information in the "Notes" field. Would you put "Civil District 4, Rhea County, TN, USA" in the Location field for a Census event? I'd like to make sure that I'm not causing problems for myself in the future. Roxanne Baird --- On Sat, 5/31/08, Dawn Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Dawn Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question Regarding Location/ Census Records To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, May 31, 2008, 1:49 AM I record whatever the census says, even if it's "district 4". Dawn Roxanne wrote: > I rely heavily on census records in my individual records. For those > of you who transcribe such records, how do you handle locations where > towns/townships are not listed? I am tempted to use things like, > "District 4, Rhea County, TN, USA", but aside from personal > preference, is there a standard approach? > > Roxanne Baird > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question Regarding Location/ Census Records
Roxanne, it is correct to include the district number. In different years and different states/counties, the official divisions were called various things, including "district." We use the terminology used in that census year and place. See page 267 of _Evidence Explained_ (Elizabeth Shown Mills). In fact, you would benefit from reading the entire census chapter. (I just read it again, as I looked for the page reference for your question - and learned several things that I missed the first time!) The book, if you don't have it, is an invaluable guide to citing your sources. It is available both as a hard cover book and as a pdf. I keep a copy on my shelf, and a pdf copy in my computer, and refer to it constantly. I am so looking forward to seeing the new Sourcing function in Legacy 7, which is (as I'm sure you know) based on the Mills citation method. I love it that Legacy worked so closely with Mills in writing this part of the software. Hopefully, that last comment kept this post on-topic (-: Janis Walker Gilmore From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roxanne Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:06 PM To: Legacy Subject: [LegacyUG] Question Regarding Location/ Census Records I rely heavily on census records in my individual records. For those of you who transcribe such records, how do you handle locations where towns/townships are not listed? I am tempted to use things like, "District 4, Rhea County, TN, USA", but aside from personal preference, is there a standard approach? Roxanne Baird Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question Regarding Location/ Census Records
I record whatever the census says, even if it's "district 4". Dawn Roxanne wrote: I rely heavily on census records in my individual records. For those of you who transcribe such records, how do you handle locations where towns/townships are not listed? I am tempted to use things like, "District 4, Rhea County, TN, USA", but aside from personal preference, is there a standard approach? Roxanne Baird Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Question Regarding Location/ Census Records
I rely heavily on census records in my individual records. For those of you who transcribe such records, how do you handle locations where towns/townships are not listed? I am tempted to use things like, "District 4, Rhea County, TN, USA", but aside from personal preference, is there a standard approach? Roxanne Baird Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question to "seasoned" computer users re: IE7/Legacy 7
Related, but off-topic for Legacy (sorry): Has anyone using Virtual PC (or VMware's similar product) and Windows XP had problems? Did you have to buy a second copy of XP? I'm concerned that when XP under the Virtual PC "phones home" MS will see it as a "second PC, unlicensed XP version". Thanks, Bob - Original Message - From: "Rodney Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 5:20 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Question to "seasoned" computer users re: IE7/Legacy 7 Brenda, You are quite right - for those intent on not using IE7, Virtual PC is perfect. A second copy of Windows with IE7 and Legacy7 will be an answer. I have no idea why there is such antipathy towards IE7; I've used it without a single problem since it was released and Legacy7 only uses a part of IE7, the 'engine' behind it, in the same way it 'uses' Windows itself. -- Rodney HALL Heywood, Lancashire Suaviter sed fortiter Agreeably but powerfully ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rmhh.co.uk/ http://rmhh.org.uk/ ~~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Van Dyke Sent: 25 May 2008 05:11 To: LegacyUserGroup Subject: [LegacyUG] Question to "seasoned" computer users re: IE7/Legacy 7 Following the thread about IE7 all day and knowing that some users of this user group are quite knowledgeable regarding MS products, I have a question: Would MS's Virtual PC be an option? It sounds like a lot of work, but I guess if you don't want to install IE7 on your "regular" computer and really want to use Legacy 7's mapping feature, perhaps it's an option. Virtual PC is one of the few free programs MS offers; it allows you to run multiple operating systems on one computer. I recall a group using it at work that had a web-based program that was stupidly programmed to Internet Explorer 4.0, SP1a (and ONLY worked on that version). Then, of course, the other option is just not to use the mapping feature. :-) Brenda Anxiously awaiting the Legacy 7 download, but not whining. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question to "seasoned" computer users re: IE7/Legacy 7
That is certainly your choice, but most of the problems with IE7 happened when it was first released and have been corrected in later updates. I have not had any significant problems with IE7 on the 10 different XP computers I manage. My biggest complaint was the change to the position of the menu bar, but a small registry tweak (found here http://www.snapfiles.com/get/ie7menutoptweak.html ) can easily fix that. IE7 increased some security defaults and depending on the browsing habits, some configuration changes are helpful. Gary Templeman - Original Message - From: "Dennis M. Kowallek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:57 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question to "seasoned" computer users re: IE7/Legacy 7 When I had my old XP notebook I upgraded from IE6 to IE7. I don't remember the details, but I was sorry I did. Then, when I bought my new XP notebook last year, I found that it came with IE6 pre-installed (I wonder why?) and I left it alone. I have no intention of upgrading to IE7 again. And I was never a big fan of the Legacy Home tab and I still wish there were a way to hide it. Same with Research Guidance. As a matter of fact, I would like to see an option that would allow any tab to be hidden (I only use 2 of the 7 tabs). -- Dennis Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question to "seasoned" computer users re: IE7/Legacy 7
IE7 may not be the best for everyone but it works fine for me. The Legacy Home Tab is good for Legacy announcements, a quick view of your file stats, upgrade availability, To Do Items and upcoming birthdays and anniversaries you want to monitor. Research Guidance is the only tab I don't use - I did for a while but not anymore as it lacked relevance for most of my research. C.G. Ouimet Kingston, ON -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis M. Kowallek Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 07:58 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question to "seasoned" computer users re: IE7/Legacy 7 When I had my old XP notebook I upgraded from IE6 to IE7. I don't remember the details, but I was sorry I did. Then, when I bought my new XP notebook last year, I found that it came with IE6 pre-installed (I wonder why?) and I left it alone. I have no intention of upgrading to IE7 again. And I was never a big fan of the Legacy Home tab and I still wish there were a way to hide it. Same with Research Guidance. As a matter of fact, I would like to see an option that would allow any tab to be hidden (I only use 2 of the 7 tabs). -- Dennis Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. Emails not of Content-Type: text/plain are deleted before ever reaching my inbox. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question to "seasoned" computer users re: IE7/Legacy 7
When I had my old XP notebook I upgraded from IE6 to IE7. I don't remember the details, but I was sorry I did. Then, when I bought my new XP notebook last year, I found that it came with IE6 pre-installed (I wonder why?) and I left it alone. I have no intention of upgrading to IE7 again. And I was never a big fan of the Legacy Home tab and I still wish there were a way to hide it. Same with Research Guidance. As a matter of fact, I would like to see an option that would allow any tab to be hidden (I only use 2 of the 7 tabs). -- Dennis Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. Emails not of Content-Type: text/plain are deleted before ever reaching my inbox. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
