Re: [MBZ] Heater cold air
Back monvalve, bad circulation pump, bad ACC pushbutton unit. A bad monovalve that has corroded the solenoid housing is likely -- it's energized to stop coolant flow to the heater core, so when the diaphram fails and water gets in the solenoid in the summer, it gets stuck closed, No heat. The monovalve diaphram can also swell up when old (especially with green coolant in there) and obstruct coolant flow as well. Monovalve is up by the windsheild, passenger side of center, take out the four screws and remove the cover, lift out the valve. If the diaphram on the bottom is wrinkled (or worse, torn), replace the insert. Peter On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 05:43 PM, Donald Snook wrote: What could make a heater blow cold air on a 82 126 diesel assuming the car is up to operating temperature? Donald H. Snook ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] ArcticQ - US rendezvous point
well, the rendezvous points depend on who we are rendezvous-ing with and that is going to be up in the air till the last week, realistically...some will be die hard definites and others will not, or will have something come up, etc. SO, I'm thinking that we plan a corse from Claremore to Deadhorse and back to the, oh lets call it the BUP (break up point) - where we split up and head our separate ways home...at the BUP, some smaller caravans may still be intact, e.g a car from Kansas City and a car from St. Louis will be together till Kansas City...but those smaller caravans can be constituted on the spot. Let's focus on getting the route down - going through the areas we want to go through - there and back. I advocate two different routes for variety and different sights, etc...but neither should take us too far out of the way. Once we nail the MAIN ITENERAY DOWN (claremore - deadhorse - BUP), then we can decide where along THAT route it would be best to rendezvous with other people coming on board that are not starting at the OkieQ. My two cents. Chris OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just ran three scenarios through MapPoint from my house (140 miles from the OkieQ) to Deadhorse, AK (one way) - Quickest trip - 4130.1 miles, 6 days, 3 hours, 44 minutes. Shortest trip - 4121.9 miles, 6 days, 5 hours, 13 minutes. Preferred roads - 4397.1 miles, 6 days, 5 hours, 32 minutes. (heavy on limited access) I haven't dug through the route to find the differences yet, but they're not very significant --- Now, where were the possible rendezvous points? On 12/13/05, Hans Neureiter wrote: Attached map, if it doesn't get stripped, shows a treck from OkieQ to Prudhoe Bay @ 9,500 miles round trip. This is just about 2 1/2 weeks. ( - Winnipeg - Saskatoon - Edmonton - Whitehorse - Fairbanks - ) -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 15 00:03:44 2005 Received: from web30012.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.201.215]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Emgb1-0004Il-NA for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:03:43 + Received: (qmail 48624 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Dec 2005 00:03:39 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hAwiTwVEWJaM6aVw/QZR3vAk9xAfwqi/dScpRgDopNIQctyGymJupyTZ/VzSDuMayKxQWCOaYemz82ONgmyxy+InATDrd0LVcsc1EH9q2G3taGvgQAO14uI0F6iSpNKGs7sh+jOS9Gl+JLb5nd9Fv9SxQKBN1TGKPjprv8+Q53c= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [66.140.70.226] by web30012.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:03:39 PST Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:03:39 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ArcticQ - US rendezvous point X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:03:44 - Something like this is exactly what I had in mind...with Denver being the main break up point (BUP) OR, forget the BUP and set a claremore - deadhorse - claremore route (different each way) and people peel off on the return route as needed/wanted to get back home. Chris Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a route that avoids double
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
Hi Rusty how do I take advantage of this special? Thanks Mike Piles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:27 PM To: 'Mercedes mailing list' Subject: [MBZ] Year End Specials These are good ONLY until December 31st 2005 and they are VERY kick--- prices. W123 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $150 W124 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $185 No Wagons W126 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $195 W201 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $180 W123 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $230 W126 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $254 OEM Diesel Oil Filter Kit $7 OEM Diesel Fuel Filter Set (2) $7 Bosch Diesel Glow Plugs Most Diesels From 1977 to 1987 $11 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. http://www.BuyMBparts.com 1-800-741-5252 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] ArcticQ - WVO burning
I was thinking something more along the lines of a city bus reconfigured for arctic duty hauling, not holiday play. No motorhome plush, more of the space dedicated to storage and processing for breakdowns and fuel/water support. Have a welder/torch set up for roadside repairs. Maybe a defibrillator for those of us older than our cars and in worse shape. Base station for the radios and ability to drag cars out of melting permafrost On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 07:24 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: redghost wrote: That is where the support vehicle with onboard processing would be handy. Take the WVO and toss it into a settling/separating tank and a few hours later be able to dispense workable fuel. Take the real waste gunk and make bear cakes for feeding the scraps to grizzlies The VeggieVan (Winnebago LeSharo) has a biodiesel processing trailer that drags along behind it. If you can imagine a 240D motorhome towing a trailer full of oil and equipment, you've got the general idea. I believe the Renault 4 banger in the Winnie is about as strong as a 240D. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
Darn!! not deals on 114/115 brakes? Need some for Gump and was going to order before too much longer On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 12:27 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: These are good ONLY until December 31st 2005 and they are VERY kick--- prices. W123 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $150 W124 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $185 No Wagons W126 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $195 W201 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $180 W123 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $230 W126 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $254 OEM Diesel Oil Filter Kit $7 OEM Diesel Fuel Filter Set (2) $7 Bosch Diesel Glow Plugs Most Diesels From 1977 to 1987 $11 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. http://www.BuyMBparts.com 1-800-741-5252 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
Mike Piles wrote: Hi Rusty how do I take advantage of this special? 1-800-741-5252 is probably your best bet. (During east coast business hours)
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
WOW Rusty Cullens wrote: These are good ONLY until December 31st 2005 and they are VERY kick--- prices. W123 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $150 W124 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $185 No Wagons W126 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $195 W201 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $180 W123 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $230 W126 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $254 OEM Diesel Oil Filter Kit $7 OEM Diesel Fuel Filter Set (2) $7 Bosch Diesel Glow Plugs Most Diesels From 1977 to 1987 $11 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. http://www.BuyMBparts.com 1-800-741-5252 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL Engine Vacuum pump question
you should have about 23 or so vacuum on either port. Brian Smyla wrote: The vacuum pump on the engine in my '86 300SDL has two ports; one is for the brake booster, the other is a smaller port that appears to handle the emission control system. Does the pump supply vacuum to both of these ports? I have vacuum on the brake booster port, but not on the smaller port. Is this a normal condition? Thanks in advance. Brian Smyla ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
You call and ask to speak to anyone other than Gary. On 12/15/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rusty how do I take advantage of this special? Thanks Mike Piles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:27 PM To: 'Mercedes mailing list' Subject: [MBZ] Year End Specials These are good ONLY until December 31st 2005 and they are VERY kick--- prices. W123 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $150 W124 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $185 No Wagons W126 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $195 W201 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $180 W123 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $230 W126 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $254 OEM Diesel Oil Filter Kit $7 OEM Diesel Fuel Filter Set (2) $7 Bosch Diesel Glow Plugs Most Diesels From 1977 to 1987 $11 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. http://www.BuyMBparts.com 1-800-741-5252 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb will offer them $500
Thats cool, I never knew anything about that. redghost wrote: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1120AP_Buried_Car.html In 2007 Kaleb will have an opportunity to get a new car for maybe $500 -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
they are probably the same as 123 brakes, the pads are anyways. redghost wrote: Darn!! not deals on 114/115 brakes? Need some for Gump and was going to order before too much longer On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 12:27 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: These are good ONLY until December 31st 2005 and they are VERY kick--- prices. W123 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $150 W124 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $185 No Wagons W126 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $195 W201 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $180 W123 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $230 W126 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $254 OEM Diesel Oil Filter Kit $7 OEM Diesel Fuel Filter Set (2) $7 Bosch Diesel Glow Plugs Most Diesels From 1977 to 1987 $11 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. http://www.BuyMBparts.com 1-800-741-5252 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, especially if you are from canada. LT Don wrote: You call and ask to speak to anyone other than Gary. On 12/15/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rusty how do I take advantage of this special? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
Actually, I shouldn't trash Gary. I got him that last few times I called (except I got Rusty for the most important order, but that was because I asked for him). Gary is good on the phone. He was very professional until he realized who I was. And then he turned into Howard Stern on the wrong meds. But in the end, in spite of himself, he guided me toward what I needed to go along with the part I was ordering, etc. Yea, maybe he called me a few names and was abusive (in a good natured way) and kept me on the phone for a long time, but that is what builds long-term customers, letting them know that you as a vendor really care about the customer and his/her needs. Gary is very helpful on the phone. Prior to talking to him, I had no idea that I had to periodically replace the air in my tires. On 12/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, especially if you are from canada. LT Don wrote: You call and ask to speak to anyone other than Gary. On 12/15/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rusty how do I take advantage of this special? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers
I just ask my brother-in-law. He does this stuff for a living and is paid quite well for being car smart. On 12/13/05, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you know when to replace the shocks? If it fails the traditional bounce test, they're bad. But they may be somewhat bad long before that. I think that if you've got 100-200kmi on them, they'd probably benefit from replacement! I replaced the original ones in the rear of our SDL, at something like 180kmi, and I'm no longer sure exactly why. (I'm sure I was chasing some symptom or another.) But I kept the old ones, as I didn't really notice much difference with the new ones. Those old used shocks were eventually put into the Chicken Wagon, replacing the non-OEM Kyb's that were there, for a noticeable improvement. -- Jim ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Ignition key problems (best way to start engine without ?)
what I did in a similar situation was put key in switch and then hammer in a screwdriver next to the key which gave me alot more leverage. then I put vice grips around the top of the screwdriver handle and viola it turned. I promptly drove it to my mechanic and had him replace the tumbler before turning the key to the off position. I can't remember if I shut the engine down with the kill switch or how I got it to turn off without the key its been a year or two ago now. Good luck. Eric 85 300CD If any listers can shed light on this question, I would appreciate. Otherwise I am inclined to advise against the starting and go to option no. 2 and drill out the lock assembly. Or is there even another avenue to contemplate? Richard Becker London ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater cold air
Donald Snook wrote: What could make a heater blow cold air on a 82 126 diesel assuming the car is up to operating temperature? Usually a bad monovalve or monovalve insert! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD
All I know is that is almost my cars twin. Same yr, same model, same color, and same mileage (well OK mine has 500 more miles) the only thing missing on mine is the trailer hitch. Did I miss something I don't see any mention ablut a new transmission. Eric Crunched 85 300CD 87K --- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a low milage 1979 240 D in comparable condition sold on ebay for $13,500, what will this one get? It's a much nicer car model and far more fun to drive. Any bets? My guess is $12,250. On 12/14/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where does it say they replaced the transmission? -Original Message- From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 14, 2005 8:32 AM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD New transmission at less than 90K miles? Trailer hitch? Hmmm. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kaleb list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Who was looking for a nice 300CD? Your MB has arrived. http://makeashorterlink.com/?T52E31F4C -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Ignition key problems (best way to start engine without ?)
eric peterson wrote: what I did in a similar situation was put key in switch and then hammer in a screwdriver next to the key which gave me alot more leverage. then I put vice grips around the top of the screwdriver handle and viola it turned. I promptly drove it to my mechanic and had him replace the tumbler before turning the key to the off position. Just FYI -- I believe once you've gotten the key to turn, you can remove the tumbler and drive the car without it by turning the ignition switch with a screwdriver. Might be handy if you can't take it to the mechanic right away.
[MBZ] bumper on 300CD
Are the rear bumpers on a 300CD the same as on a 300D or are they specific to the coupe? Eric Crunched 85 300CD 87K __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] picturing a banjo bolt
Hans Neureiter wrote: And everyone I know calls the things that hold the wheels on my Benz a LUG BOLT. Why? Because of the analogy to lug nuts, I suppose. My Vanagon had bolts in front and nuts in back! Better not lose any, since you can't do the steal one each from the other three wheels trick. Just to confuse you further, they aren't really bolts, they're hex head cap screws. A bolt always has a nut on the other end. If it goes into a threaded hole, it's a screw. This is helpful to know if you ever need to get one from a company that specializes in fasteners.
Re: [MBZ] bumper on 300CD
they are the same, do you need one? eric peterson wrote: Are the rear bumpers on a 300CD the same as on a 300D or are they specific to the coupe? Eric Crunched 85 300CD 87K __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers
Shocks loose their damping ability long before they fail the bounce test. If you feel your Mercedes float whe going over a rise in the road or the front or rear end tend to rebound after going over a bump then you are probably due. Four things cause shock failure - they are: Gas pressure loss Fluid loss Internal valving failure (internal wear) Damper fluid breakdown Only fluid loss can be measured from the outside because it's obvious. It will be obvious that you needed shocks after you replace them. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LT Don Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:22 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers I just ask my brother-in-law. He does this stuff for a living and is paid quite well for being car smart. On 12/13/05, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you know when to replace the shocks? If it fails the traditional bounce test, they're bad. But they may be somewhat bad long before that. I think that if you've got 100-200kmi on them, they'd probably benefit from replacement! I replaced the original ones in the rear of our SDL, at something like 180kmi, and I'm no longer sure exactly why. (I'm sure I was chasing some symptom or another.) But I kept the old ones, as I didn't really notice much difference with the new ones. Those old used shocks were eventually put into the Chicken Wagon, replacing the non-OEM Kyb's that were there, for a noticeable improvement. -- Jim ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 05:20 PM, LT Don wrote: Actually, I shouldn't trash Gary. I got him that last few times I called (except I got Rusty for the most important order, but that was because I asked for him). Gary is good on the phone. He was very professional until he realized who I was. And then he turned into Howard Stern on the wrong meds. But in the end, in spite of himself, he guided me toward what I needed to go along with the part I was ordering, etc. Yea, maybe he called me a few names and was abusive (in a good natured way) and kept me on the phone for a long time, but that is what builds long-term customers, letting them know that you as a vendor really care about the customer and his/her needs. Gary is very helpful on the phone. Prior to talking to him, I had no idea that I had to periodically replace the air in my tires. On 12/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, especially if you are from canada. LT Don wrote: You call and ask to speak to anyone other than Gary. On 12/15/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rusty how do I take advantage of this special? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] picturing a banjo bolt
I have more VW bolts than I can shake a finger at. If you need, I can supply by the wheel load. They are much the same as the steel wheel bolts, but have the silly VW markings on them. In a pinch I used some for when Gump wore steel before bundts On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 05:55 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: Hans Neureiter wrote: And everyone I know calls the things that hold the wheels on my Benz a LUG BOLT. Why? Because of the analogy to lug nuts, I suppose. My Vanagon had bolts in front and nuts in back! Better not lose any, since you can't do the steal one each from the other three wheels trick. Just to confuse you further, they aren't really bolts, they're hex head cap screws. A bolt always has a nut on the other end. If it goes into a threaded hole, it's a screw. This is helpful to know if you ever need to get one from a company that specializes in fasteners. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
redghost wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. But do you have the proper OEM blinker fluid and muffler bearings? You probably need some parts from these guys: http://www.kalecoauto.com/
[MBZ] 123 club
Vince will probably be joining us soon. He seems like a pretty good guy, FYI. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
You are supposed to use original german MB air in your tires. I can provide free original german MB air for all who attend any OkieQ. David Brodbeck wrote: redghost wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. But do you have the proper OEM blinker fluid and muffler bearings? You probably need some parts from these guys: http://www.kalecoauto.com/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] bumper on 300CD
I'll just pick one up locally Kaleb. But thanks anyway. Still fighting with the insurance company but at least I have the best case for a comparable that you could get there is a twin to my car on ebay right now. Same yr, model, color even same mileage. already at basically what the insurance company has offered. Got the papers today for filing suit against them for the property damage. And my lawyer will handle the medical settlement. I'll just be glad when it's over and I have either my car fixed or enough $$ to pay for it's replacement. Eric Crunched 85 300CD 87K --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they are the same, do you need one? eric peterson wrote: Are the rear bumpers on a 300CD the same as on a 300D or are they specific to the coupe? Eric Crunched 85 300CD 87K __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
No ... he had to special order the air from Germany. On 12/15/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 05:20 PM, LT Don wrote: Actually, I shouldn't trash Gary. I got him that last few times I called (except I got Rusty for the most important order, but that was because I asked for him). Gary is good on the phone. He was very professional until he realized who I was. And then he turned into Howard Stern on the wrong meds. But in the end, in spite of himself, he guided me toward what I needed to go along with the part I was ordering, etc. Yea, maybe he called me a few names and was abusive (in a good natured way) and kept me on the phone for a long time, but that is what builds long-term customers, letting them know that you as a vendor really care about the customer and his/her needs. Gary is very helpful on the phone. Prior to talking to him, I had no idea that I had to periodically replace the air in my tires. On 12/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, especially if you are from canada. LT Don wrote: You call and ask to speak to anyone other than Gary. On 12/15/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rusty how do I take advantage of this special? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL Engine Vacuum pump question
The T on mine was cracked right where the line from the Vacuum pump meets the bottom T - it wasn't obvious - had to look hard to find that leak. On 12/14/05, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it's not. Either the port itself or the line is plugged, probably. The hose coming up form the small port has a restriction in it (yellow plastic connector) that you may need to remove to get vac at the five way T connection. If you have vac at the T with all the lines plugged, verify that both lines going off to the passenger side hold vac -- if not, the actuator for the EGR and air recirc valve are blown. You can replace them or just plug the lines at the T. The other two lines are for the tranny shift control (lack of vacuum will produce VERY hard shifts) and the climate control (no vac gives you conditioned air, but only out the defrost vent). Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb will offer them $500
I'd think the Belvedere would best be left buried -- -- On 12/14/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats cool, I never knew anything about that. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb will offer them $500
I'd think the Belvedere would best be left buried -- -- The Belvedere was the namesake of the Chicken Wagon, in fact. (That's the car that the Foster Farms chickens ride around in.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
Sounds to me that you are all passing Okie gas At 08:26 PM 12/14/2005, you wrote: You are supposed to use original german MB air in your tires. I can provide free original german MB air for all who attend any OkieQ. David Brodbeck wrote: redghost wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. But do you have the proper OEM blinker fluid and muffler bearings? You probably need some parts from these guys: http://www.kalecoauto.com/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
I use Fina's Pink Air in mine -- is that as bad as using green coolant? On 12/14/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
I am going to get fresh blinker fluid with the new blinker relay. I suspect the old fluid is worn out and with a fresh relay, I will get better mileage than putting new fluid in a worn relay. AS for Muffler bearings, I did replace the old rubber things with new, since the old made the muffler fall down and drag a few times. When I get the new muffler, will get bearings to match. No need to spend money right now on bearing when I will have to replace them in a few months when I order the full muffler. I did not see the spec. 4.5.7 Radio hydraulics on Rusty's site. Maybe I missed it, but I was sure that when I install the Becker, I will need some. The funky little nipponese radio does not need it, but the old Europa is going to need some so that the dash speaker works. Do I need to get new hoses too? On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 06:25 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: redghost wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. But do you have the proper OEM blinker fluid and muffler bearings? You probably need some parts from these guys: http://www.kalecoauto.com/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
The air must be MB approved. On 12/15/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Fina's Pink Air in mine -- is that as bad as using green coolant? On 12/14/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
Can I mix up some air? Sort of like the catholics and holy water where a few drops of pope blessed stuff makes the rest good? I do know a few germans that may offer air. On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 06:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You are supposed to use original german MB air in your tires. I can provide free original german MB air for all who attend any OkieQ. David Brodbeck wrote: redghost wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. But do you have the proper OEM blinker fluid and muffler bearings? You probably need some parts from these guys: http://www.kalecoauto.com/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 123 club
Will he become moderator of the new 123 list? On 12/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vince will probably be joining us soon. He seems like a pretty good guy, FYI. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb will offer them $500
There is a fellow up in Victoria BC been trying to get takers for his on Craigslist for about a year On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 06:50 PM, OK Don wrote: I'd think the Belvedere would best be left buried -- -- On 12/14/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats cool, I never knew anything about that. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
Gary does sell us what we need, doesn't he? On 12/15/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to get fresh blinker fluid with the new blinker relay. I suspect the old fluid is worn out and with a fresh relay, I will get better mileage than putting new fluid in a worn relay. AS for Muffler bearings, I did replace the old rubber things with new, since the old made the muffler fall down and drag a few times. When I get the new muffler, will get bearings to match. No need to spend money right now on bearing when I will have to replace them in a few months when I order the full muffler. I did not see the spec. 4.5.7 Radio hydraulics on Rusty's site. Maybe I missed it, but I was sure that when I install the Becker, I will need some. The funky little nipponese radio does not need it, but the old Europa is going to need some so that the dash speaker works. Do I need to get new hoses too? On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 06:25 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: redghost wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. But do you have the proper OEM blinker fluid and muffler bearings? You probably need some parts from these guys: http://www.kalecoauto.com/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] 123 club
Well he's got to be if he drives a 123 :-) Hendrik who saw a rare 240D manual today (should have left a note offering to buy it) - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:55 PM Subject: [MBZ] 123 club Vince will probably be joining us soon. He seems like a pretty good guy, FYI. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
You talking about reifenluft? What is the part number, I forgot? Hendrik running non-genuine air and it really handles like poo - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials No ... he had to special order the air from Germany. On 12/15/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 05:20 PM, LT Don wrote: Actually, I shouldn't trash Gary. I got him that last few times I called (except I got Rusty for the most important order, but that was because I asked for him). Gary is good on the phone. He was very professional until he realized who I was. And then he turned into Howard Stern on the wrong meds. But in the end, in spite of himself, he guided me toward what I needed to go along with the part I was ordering, etc. Yea, maybe he called me a few names and was abusive (in a good natured way) and kept me on the phone for a long time, but that is what builds long-term customers, letting them know that you as a vendor really care about the customer and his/her needs. Gary is very helpful on the phone. Prior to talking to him, I had no idea that I had to periodically replace the air in my tires. On 12/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, especially if you are from canada. LT Don wrote: You call and ask to speak to anyone other than Gary. On 12/15/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rusty how do I take advantage of this special? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you know when to replace the shocks ? Does anybody ever just keep the orginals ? Mercedes outlines a test for shocks. It requires that the shock be removed and measured. That's the ONLY accurate test. It requires a little more labor than just to replace the shock! Since it's rare that there is much question until the shock approaches (or often exceeds) 100kmi (so is already thru at least half of it potential life). It's rare that it doesn't make sense to replace the shock rather than replace a shock that's well more than half worn out. Each of the my cars has benefited from shock replacement by 200kmi (long before they fail the bounce test). Heavier cars (or cars that are driven HARD) may require replacement sooner (some as soon as 100+kmi). By the time a car fails the bounce test the shock is totally trashed and the driving characteristics of the car doesn't resemble anything Mercedes designed! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers
Neither me nor my car has any problem with gas pressure failure. ... If we could just harness that energy. We had enough gas at the last OkieQ to keep all of our fleets (even Kleb's) riding firm into the next century. Can you say brauts? On 12/15/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Four things cause shock failure - they are: Gas pressure loss -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
Actually, I heard somewhere that Oki gas could be used an emergency substitute for original German MB air. But you won't catch me following Kaleb around with a plastic bag to gather some... Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:55 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials Sounds to me that you are all passing Okie gas At 08:26 PM 12/14/2005, you wrote: You are supposed to use original german MB air in your tires. I can provide free original german MB air for all who attend any OkieQ. David Brodbeck wrote: redghost wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. But do you have the proper OEM blinker fluid and muffler bearings? You probably need some parts from these guys: http://www.kalecoauto.com/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers
Marshall -- Which is more expensive, removing and testing the shock, or just replacing it? I think Rusty's quote was $240 for four shocks and labor is free. Busted knuckles and a visit to the ER not included in this cost estimate. On 12/15/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mercedes outlines a test for shocks. It requires that the shock be removed and measured. That's the ONLY accurate test. -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
I suggest you follow Mr. Clean, not Kleb. On 12/15/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I heard somewhere that Oki gas could be used an emergency substitute for original German MB air. But you won't catch me following Kaleb around with a plastic bag to gather some... Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:55 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials Sounds to me that you are all passing Okie gas At 08:26 PM 12/14/2005, you wrote: You are supposed to use original german MB air in your tires. I can provide free original german MB air for all who attend any OkieQ. David Brodbeck wrote: redghost wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. But do you have the proper OEM blinker fluid and muffler bearings? You probably need some parts from these guys: http://www.kalecoauto.com/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] So what happens when...
you drop the small lightbulb for the gearshift into the gearshifter? Is there a way to fish it out or is it safe to just drive it and get a new one? Not sure what to do here... Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
Thanks to all those that replied to my question about the vacuum pump port. I had the engine replaced with a used one, and the shop that did the work warranted the engine for 30 days. The day after I picked the car up, the engine wouldn't stop. I took it back to have the problem resolved, and was told the problem was in the vacuum transducers near the turbo. I took the car back, then discovered that there wasn't any vacuum on the small port on the pump. Also, the climate control had air coming from the defrost ports only, and the shifting was very hard, as was mentioned in some of your replies. I had a very bad experience with this engine replacement. The shop owner claims to have many years experience working on MBZ products, but when I picked the car up, the heat didn't work (mechanic said it was a problem with my climate control), the starter engaged intermittently, the idler pulley was chafing the back side of the belt, a turbo support bracket was missing, and various bolts were missing here and there. I spent three hours checking the climate control, only to finally figure out that the mechanic had left a plug in the return water pipe where it connects to the heater hose that comes off the monovalve. I returned the car for repair of the other problems. They fixed the starter issue, installed the turbo bracket ( after arguing with me on the phone for 5 minutes that the bracket didn't exist ), told me the idler pulley wasn't part of what was warranted ( the idler pulley was from the replacement engine, and I told him that since it wasn't under warranty, I wanted my old one back ), and said the shutoff problem was in the emission control transducers, which I know is BS, because there's no vacuum on the port to start with. If anyone's interested, the shop is Chaney's Auto Service in Ringgold, VA. I'm not going back. Oh, and he charged me $2000 for the replacement engine, labor to remove the replacement engine from the donor vehicle, promised me a 10% cash discount from the original quoted price, then added enough miscellaneous parts (motor mounts, used starter, hoses, etc..) to make up the difference. Go figure. And no, it's not worth going to court over. And to make matters worse, I bought the car from Stefan Schultze, who assured me that the only thing wrong with it was bad hood hinges. Flew to Indiana to pick it up, where he told me that the heater had been intermittently working. Drove it back, then discovered it had a cracked head. All 6 cylinders. Refused to reply to follow up emails asking for a $1k concession. I know, my fault, caveat emptor and all that. Thanks for letting me vent. Brian Smyla
Re: [MBZ] So what happens when...
Hemostats. The electronics tech's best friend. You can probably borrow a pair at the local ER. On 12/15/05, Jim Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you drop the small lightbulb for the gearshift into the gearshifter? Is there a way to fish it out or is it safe to just drive it and get a new one? Not sure what to do here... Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
Brian, This all falls under the let the buyer beware clause. You should have done your homework on the car before purchasing it. I've owned 15 old Mercedes to date and I've put serious money into every good deal that I have bough to date. These days, I just figure that I'll have to put $2,000 into anything I buy. And that's after I check out the car and decide that it's in good shape. But you need to understand that I'll purchase an older Mercedes then I'll put 50,000 + miles a year on it. My latest Mercedes, a 1987 300SDL, cost me $1600.00 the first month I owned it. About this time last year, the transmission cost me $1760.00 but at least it got me home. I'm nursing a cracked head or bad head gasket and have been doing so for over 50,000 miles. Even with all of these costs, it's still cheaper than the rate that my Wife's new Grand Cherokee is depreciating and I won't complain. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Smyla Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant Thanks to all those that replied to my question about the vacuum pump port. I had the engine replaced with a used one, and the shop that did the work warranted the engine for 30 days. The day after I picked the car up, the engine wouldn't stop. I took it back to have the problem resolved, and was told the problem was in the vacuum transducers near the turbo. I took the car back, then discovered that there wasn't any vacuum on the small port on the pump. Also, the climate control had air coming from the defrost ports only, and the shifting was very hard, as was mentioned in some of your replies. I had a very bad experience with this engine replacement. The shop owner claims to have many years experience working on MBZ products, but when I picked the car up, the heat didn't work (mechanic said it was a problem with my climate control), the starter engaged intermittently, the idler pulley was chafing the back side of the belt, a turbo support bracket was missing, and various bolts were missing here and there. I spent three hours checking the climate control, only to finally figure out that the mechanic had left a plug in the return water pipe where it connects to the heater hose that comes off the monovalve. I returned the car for repair of the other problems. They fixed the starter issue, installed the turbo bracket ( after arguing with me on the phone for 5 minutes that the bracket didn't exist ), told me the idler pulley wasn't part of what was warranted ( the idler pulley was from the replacement engine, and I told him that since it wasn't under warranty, I wanted my old one back ), and said the shutoff problem was in the emission control transducers, which I know is BS, because there's no vacuum on the port to start with. If anyone's interested, the shop is Chaney's Auto Service in Ringgold, VA. I'm not going back. Oh, and he charged me $2000 for the replacement engine, labor to remove the replacement engine from the donor vehicle, promised me a 10% cash discount from the original quoted price, then added enough miscellaneous parts (motor mounts, used starter, hoses, etc..) to make up the difference. Go figure. And no, it's not worth going to court over. And to make matters worse, I bought the car from Stefan Schultze, who assured me that the only thing wrong with it was bad hood hinges. Flew to Indiana to pick it up, where he told me that the heater had been intermittently working. Drove it back, then discovered it had a cracked head. All 6 cylinders. Refused to reply to follow up emails asking for a $1k concession. I know, my fault, caveat emptor and all that. Thanks for letting me vent. Brian Smyla ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] bumper on 300CD
sounds like we need some bidders... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:29:35 -0600, eric peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll just pick one up locally Kaleb. But thanks anyway. Still fighting with the insurance company but at least I have the best case for a comparable that you could get there is a twin to my car on ebay right now. Same yr, model, color even same mileage. already at basically what the insurance company has offered. Got the papers today for filing suit against them for the property damage. And my lawyer will handle the medical settlement. I'll just be glad when it's over and I have either my car fixed or enough $$ to pay for it's replacement. Eric Crunched 85 300CD 87K --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] 123 club
On 12/14/05 8:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vince will probably be joining us soon. He seems like a pretty good guy, FYI. POT KETTLE BLACK _ GG
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
Hi Brian, I missed the type of car here, but I gather it's a W124 or W126 with an OM603 engine. I've tinkered with those a little myself, and have a couple of comments. First, you need to test vacuum directly at the port on the pump - disconnect the hose that goes to the 4-way branch fitting. If there's zero vacuum from the pump, the pump is bad (or the port is blocked somehow). The pump isn't cheap, either. If the pump does NOT have 4 Torx-head screws in the front cover, it should be replaced on principle even if it is working OK. Anyway, if there is a leak on any of the vacuum 'consumers', that can cause all the other vacuum operated items to not function. That would be the emissions junk (which can be disabled), the tranny (which will shift harshly with no vacuum), and the climate control vent flaps. The large port on the vac pump feeds both the power brake booster *and* the engine shutoff. If the engine won't shut off, it could be the diaphragm on the injection pump, a leak in the brake booster pipe, or (once again) a bad vacuum pump. It sounds like you have verified that the pump is bad, but first I'd want to disconnect both ports, plug the large one, and measure at the small one. A big leak on the main port could possibly cause no vacuum present at the small port. (?) Don't mess around with that idler pulley - the serpentine belt system is not something to screw with, it can cause the timing cover to fracture (read to fix). If the belt isn't perfectly parallel at the tensioner/idler pulleys, REPLACE the idler lever. The idler puley only needs replacement if the bearing is bad. Only use an OE (Genuine Mercedes) belt shock - the eyelet bushings are different than the OEM (aftermarket) shocks. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with that shop. I remember Stefan's name from the previous (MBZ.org) list, I had forgotten he sold the car. Wasn't that a 350SDL...? Best regards, -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline) -- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:37:38 -0500 From: Brian Smyla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant Thanks to all those that replied to my question about the vacuum pump port. I had the engine replaced with a used one, and the shop that did the work warranted the engine for 30 days. The day after I picked the car up, the engine wouldn't stop. I took it back to have the problem resolved, and was told the problem was in the vacuum transducers near the turbo. I took the car back, then discovered that there wasn't any vacuum on the small port on the pump. Also, the climate control had air coming from the defrost ports only, and the shifting was very hard, as was mentioned in some of your replies. I had a very bad experience with this engine replacement. The shop owner claims to have many years experience working on MBZ products, but when I picked the car up, the heat didn't work (mechanic said it was a problem with my climate control), the starter engaged intermittently, the idler pulley was chafing the back side of the belt, a turbo support bracket was missing, and various bolts were missing here and there. I spent three hours checking the climate control, only to finally figure out that the mechanic had left a plug in the return water pipe where it connects to the heater hose that comes off the monovalve. I returned the car for repair of the other problems. They fixed the starter issue, installed the turbo bracket ( after arguing with me on the phone for 5 minutes that the bracket didn't exist ), told me the idler pulley wasn't part of what was warranted ( the idler pulley was from the replacement engine, and I told him that since it wasn't under warranty, I wanted my old one back ), and said the shutoff problem was in the emission control transducers, which I know is BS, because there's no vacuum on the port to start with. If anyone's interested, the shop is Chaney's Auto Service in Ringgold, VA. I'm not going back. Oh, and he charged me $2000 for the replacement engine, labor to remove the replacement engine from the donor vehicle, promised me a 10% cash discount from the original quoted price, then added enough miscellaneous parts (motor mounts, used starter, hoses, etc..) to make up the difference. Go figure. And no, it's not worth going to court over. And to make matters worse, I bought the car from Stefan Schultze, who assured me that the only thing wrong with it was bad hood hinges. Flew to Indiana to pick it up, where he told me that the heater had been intermittently working. Drove it back, then discovered it had a cracked head. All 6 cylinders. Refused to reply to follow up emails asking for a $1k concession. I know, my fault, caveat emptor and all that. Thanks for letting me vent. Brian Smyla
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
I think I would prefer Nitrogen or propane to Okie gas in the tires On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 07:15 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: Actually, I heard somewhere that Oki gas could be used an emergency substitute for original German MB air. But you won't catch me following Kaleb around with a plastic bag to gather some... Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:55 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials Sounds to me that you are all passing Okie gas At 08:26 PM 12/14/2005, you wrote: You are supposed to use original german MB air in your tires. I can provide free original german MB air for all who attend any OkieQ. David Brodbeck wrote: redghost wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. But do you have the proper OEM blinker fluid and muffler bearings? You probably need some parts from these guys: http://www.kalecoauto.com/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 123 club
uh, no LT Don wrote: Will he become moderator of the new 123 list? On 12/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vince will probably be joining us soon. He seems like a pretty good guy, FYI. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
Stefan? Is he on this list? Tom Hargrave wrote: Brian, This all falls under the let the buyer beware clause. You should have done your homework on the car before purchasing it. I've owned 15 old Mercedes to date and I've put serious money into every good deal that I have bough to date. These days, I just figure that I'll have to put $2,000 into anything I buy. And that's after I check out the car and decide that it's in good shape. But you need to understand that I'll purchase an older Mercedes then I'll put 50,000 + miles a year on it. My latest Mercedes, a 1987 300SDL, cost me $1600.00 the first month I owned it. About this time last year, the transmission cost me $1760.00 but at least it got me home. I'm nursing a cracked head or bad head gasket and have been doing so for over 50,000 miles. Even with all of these costs, it's still cheaper than the rate that my Wife's new Grand Cherokee is depreciating and I won't complain. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Smyla Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant Thanks to all those that replied to my question about the vacuum pump port. I had the engine replaced with a used one, and the shop that did the work warranted the engine for 30 days. The day after I picked the car up, the engine wouldn't stop. I took it back to have the problem resolved, and was told the problem was in the vacuum transducers near the turbo. I took the car back, then discovered that there wasn't any vacuum on the small port on the pump. Also, the climate control had air coming from the defrost ports only, and the shifting was very hard, as was mentioned in some of your replies. I had a very bad experience with this engine replacement. The shop owner claims to have many years experience working on MBZ products, but when I picked the car up, the heat didn't work (mechanic said it was a problem with my climate control), the starter engaged intermittently, the idler pulley was chafing the back side of the belt, a turbo support bracket was missing, and various bolts were missing here and there. I spent three hours checking the climate control, only to finally figure out that the mechanic had left a plug in the return water pipe where it connects to the heater hose that comes off the monovalve. I returned the car for repair of the other problems. They fixed the starter issue, installed the turbo bracket ( after arguing with me on the phone for 5 minutes that the bracket didn't exist ), told me the idler pulley wasn't part of what was warranted ( the idler pulley was from the replacement engine, and I told him that since it wasn't under warranty, I wanted my old one back ), and said the shutoff problem was in the emission control transducers, which I know is BS, because there's no vacuum on the port to start with. If anyone's interested, the shop is Chaney's Auto Service in Ringgold, VA. I'm not going back. Oh, and he charged me $2000 for the replacement engine, labor to remove the replacement engine from the donor vehicle, promised me a 10% cash discount from the original quoted price, then added enough miscellaneous parts (motor mounts, used starter, hoses, etc..) to make up the difference. Go figure. And no, it's not worth going to court over. And to make matters worse, I bought the car from Stefan Schultze, who assured me that the only thing wrong with it was bad hood hinges. Flew to Indiana to pick it up, where he told me that the heater had been intermittently working. Drove it back, then discovered it had a cracked head. All 6 cylinders. Refused to reply to follow up emails asking for a $1k concession. I know, my fault, caveat emptor and all that. Thanks for letting me vent. Brian Smyla ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
Outsmart everyone. Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps on so you know it's not air in there any more. Actually, I think some major stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 06:19 PM 12/14/2005 -0800, you wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 05:20 PM, LT Don wrote: Actually, I shouldn't trash Gary. I got him that last few times I called (except I got Rusty for the most important order, but that was because I asked for him). Gary is good on the phone. He was very professional until he realized who I was. And then he turned into Howard Stern on the wrong meds. But in the end, in spite of himself, he guided me toward what I needed to go along with the part I was ordering, etc. Yea, maybe he called me a few names and was abusive (in a good natured way) and kept me on the phone for a long time, but that is what builds long-term customers, letting them know that you as a vendor really care about the customer and his/her needs. Gary is very helpful on the phone. Prior to talking to him, I had no idea that I had to periodically replace the air in my tires. On 12/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, especially if you are from canada. LT Don wrote: You call and ask to speak to anyone other than Gary. On 12/15/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rusty how do I take advantage of this special? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market
It's interesting, awhile back I got a thing from one of my banks trying to get me to buy a new car so they could be kind enough to collect interest from me, and I noticed they had a few stipulations on some car makes that they wouldn't loan money on, Scion was on the list, along with suzuki, KIA, and that other korean one that I don't think was around long after I got the ad, and a number of other makes with questionable dealer support. I wish I had kept the ad, it was rather telling of which car companies just weren't doing it. --Robert Mitch Haley wrote: Steve MacSween wrote: No, the name just came to me: Xion, I think. It's a whole different line, something like Lexus is to Toyota, aimed at Gen Y consumers. The ones I am seeing up here are the minivan-line thingies. That's Scion. Supposed to sell the cars at full list price, like Saturn. They ship base models, and then the dealer adds the options. If I could get an xA for $10k, I'd do it, but I'm not paying $13k for one. Might be worth $13k for people who usually pay for options on cars, it comes standard with 160W stereo, ABS, A/C, power windowsmirrors, remote locks... http://www.edmunds.com/new/scion/index.html ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car
Those kind of things with the exposed filters or the cold air intakes are ok for a gas burner the lower compression makes thm a tad more forgiving, but if you put one on a diesel you'd better live in Death Valley, or plan on parking whenever it starts raining or you'll likely suck up a belly full of water into the engine. It doesn't take much on a diesel before it's all over but the crying. Diesel air filter housings are generally designed carefully with the thought of shedding water in mind. I've known a few people with VW and Volvo diesels who have gone that route with the sexy air intake setups, and blown the engines that way. One did it, just going through a big puddle at an intersection. -Robert David Brodbeck wrote: Harry M. wrote: Those setups are called cold air intakes, they increase the airflow to the engine and believe it or not have been proven to increase power. What was shown in the ebay link was *not* a cold air intake. It was under the hood. A true cold air intake needs to draw outside air, not under-hood air. An example of a *stock* cold air intake is the air intake on a Volvo 240. The airbox is connected to an intake pipe that runs around the radiator and opens just behind the grille. I found a setup for my Miata and with a nice exhaust it added a extra 20hp at the rear wheels. Have you verified that with a dyno, or is it just seat of the pants? In the dyno testing I've seen, even on old American cars with really restrictive air cleaners the gain was usually less than 5 hp. Often it was less than the variation between runs. If you've really gained 20 hp, it's probably mostly from the exhaust. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Stefan? Is he on this list? I don't think so. He was on Diesel, then took a temporary assignment in Mexico. He was looking at 350SDLs and gassers, don't remember if he bought one.
Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market
Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: It's interesting, awhile back I got a thing from one of my banks trying to get me to buy a new car so they could be kind enough to collect interest from me, and I noticed they had a few stipulations on some car makes that they wouldn't loan money on, Scion was on the list, along with suzuki, KIA, and that other korean one that I don't think was around long after I got the ad, and a number of other makes with questionable dealer support. I can't believe that Toyota/Scion was on the list. Those cars are never discounted and have at least the resale value of a Corolla. And they are sold by Toyota dealers for the most part, and backed by Toyota. I guess it's possible the bank was wary of Scion in the first year they used the name, but it's like being wary of Acura or Lexus.
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
Thanks, Tom. Well, I've got about $7K in the car right now, probably need another $2k to get it 'perfect', including paint. Yes, I believe the car is worth it, since I'll probably drive it much longer than something I'd buy for $30 - 40K at a dealership. You're right about the 'caveat emptor' clause, but my complaint is more along the lines of dishonesty within the classic Benz owners' community. Brian Smyla -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:57 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant Brian, This all falls under the let the buyer beware clause. You should have done your homework on the car before purchasing it. I've owned 15 old Mercedes to date and I've put serious money into every good deal that I have bough to date. These days, I just figure that I'll have to put $2,000 into anything I buy. And that's after I check out the car and decide that it's in good shape. But you need to understand that I'll purchase an older Mercedes then I'll put 50,000 + miles a year on it. My latest Mercedes, a 1987 300SDL, cost me $1600.00 the first month I owned it. About this time last year, the transmission cost me $1760.00 but at least it got me home. I'm nursing a cracked head or bad head gasket and have been doing so for over 50,000 miles. Even with all of these costs, it's still cheaper than the rate that my Wife's new Grand Cherokee is depreciating and I won't complain. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Smyla Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant Thanks to all those that replied to my question about the vacuum pump port. I had the engine replaced with a used one, and the shop that did the work warranted the engine for 30 days. The day after I picked the car up, the engine wouldn't stop. I took it back to have the problem resolved, and was told the problem was in the vacuum transducers near the turbo. I took the car back, then discovered that there wasn't any vacuum on the small port on the pump. Also, the climate control had air coming from the defrost ports only, and the shifting was very hard, as was mentioned in some of your replies. I had a very bad experience with this engine replacement. The shop owner claims to have many years experience working on MBZ products, but when I picked the car up, the heat didn't work (mechanic said it was a problem with my climate control), the starter engaged intermittently, the idler pulley was chafing the back side of the belt, a turbo support bracket was missing, and various bolts were missing here and there. I spent three hours checking the climate control, only to finally figure out that the mechanic had left a plug in the return water pipe where it connects to the heater hose that comes off the monovalve. I returned the car for repair of the other problems. They fixed the starter issue, installed the turbo bracket ( after arguing with me on the phone for 5 minutes that the bracket didn't exist ), told me the idler pulley wasn't part of what was warranted ( the idler pulley was from the replacement engine, and I told him that since it wasn't under warranty, I wanted my old one back ), and said the shutoff problem was in the emission control transducers, which I know is BS, because there's no vacuum on the port to start with. If anyone's interested, the shop is Chaney's Auto Service in Ringgold, VA. I'm not going back. Oh, and he charged me $2000 for the replacement engine, labor to remove the replacement engine from the donor vehicle, promised me a 10% cash discount from the original quoted price, then added enough miscellaneous parts (motor mounts, used starter, hoses, etc..) to make up the difference. Go figure. And no, it's not worth going to court over. And to make matters worse, I bought the car from Stefan Schultze, who assured me that the only thing wrong with it was bad hood hinges. Flew to Indiana to pick it up, where he told me that the heater had been intermittently working. Drove it back, then discovered it had a cracked head. All 6 cylinders. Refused to reply to follow up emails asking for a $1k concession. I know, my fault, caveat emptor and all that. Thanks for letting me vent. Brian Smyla ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
Hi, Dave. Thanks for the good information, I'll follow up on some of that today. The car is an '86 300SDL. I believe a crash destroyed his 350 about 6 months after I bought the 300, and he spent some time in the hospital as a result, according to his posts to the list. -Brian Smyla -Original Message- From: Dave M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant Hi Brian, I missed the type of car here, but I gather it's a W124 or W126 with an OM603 engine. I've tinkered with those a little myself, and have a couple of comments. First, you need to test vacuum directly at the port on the pump - disconnect the hose that goes to the 4-way branch fitting. If there's zero vacuum from the pump, the pump is bad (or the port is blocked somehow). The pump isn't cheap, either. If the pump does NOT have 4 Torx-head screws in the front cover, it should be replaced on principle even if it is working OK. Anyway, if there is a leak on any of the vacuum 'consumers', that can cause all the other vacuum operated items to not function. That would be the emissions junk (which can be disabled), the tranny (which will shift harshly with no vacuum), and the climate control vent flaps. The large port on the vac pump feeds both the power brake booster *and* the engine shutoff. If the engine won't shut off, it could be the diaphragm on the injection pump, a leak in the brake booster pipe, or (once again) a bad vacuum pump. It sounds like you have verified that the pump is bad, but first I'd want to disconnect both ports, plug the large one, and measure at the small one. A big leak on the main port could possibly cause no vacuum present at the small port. (?) Don't mess around with that idler pulley - the serpentine belt system is not something to screw with, it can cause the timing cover to fracture (read to fix). If the belt isn't perfectly parallel at the tensioner/idler pulleys, REPLACE the idler lever. The idler puley only needs replacement if the bearing is bad. Only use an OE (Genuine Mercedes) belt shock - the eyelet bushings are different than the OEM (aftermarket) shocks. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with that shop. I remember Stefan's name from the previous (MBZ.org) list, I had forgotten he sold the car. Wasn't that a 350SDL...? Best regards, -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline) -- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:37:38 -0500 From: Brian Smyla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant Thanks to all those that replied to my question about the vacuum pump port. I had the engine replaced with a used one, and the shop that did the work warranted the engine for 30 days. The day after I picked the car up, the engine wouldn't stop. I took it back to have the problem resolved, and was told the problem was in the vacuum transducers near the turbo. I took the car back, then discovered that there wasn't any vacuum on the small port on the pump. Also, the climate control had air coming from the defrost ports only, and the shifting was very hard, as was mentioned in some of your replies. I had a very bad experience with this engine replacement. The shop owner claims to have many years experience working on MBZ products, but when I picked the car up, the heat didn't work (mechanic said it was a problem with my climate control), the starter engaged intermittently, the idler pulley was chafing the back side of the belt, a turbo support bracket was missing, and various bolts were missing here and there. I spent three hours checking the climate control, only to finally figure out that the mechanic had left a plug in the return water pipe where it connects to the heater hose that comes off the monovalve. I returned the car for repair of the other problems. They fixed the starter issue, installed the turbo bracket ( after arguing with me on the phone for 5 minutes that the bracket didn't exist ), told me the idler pulley wasn't part of what was warranted ( the idler pulley was from the replacement engine, and I told him that since it wasn't under warranty, I wanted my old one back ), and said the shutoff problem was in the emission control transducers, which I know is BS, because there's no vacuum on the port to start with. If anyone's interested, the shop is Chaney's Auto Service in Ringgold, VA. I'm not going back. Oh, and he charged me $2000 for the replacement engine, labor to remove the replacement engine from the donor vehicle, promised me a 10% cash discount from the original quoted price, then added enough miscellaneous parts (motor mounts, used starter, hoses, etc..) to make up the difference. Go figure. And no, it's not worth going to court over. And to make matters worse, I bought the car from Stefan Schultze, who assured me that the only thing
Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car
At one point I saw an article on some sort of safety device for the air intake (just for the reasons you mentioned) I forget exactly how/what it was, but some sort of T in the line that would get air elsewhere due to pressure or something. The part I remember was they had the guy's NSX on a dyno and shoved the end of his intake into a fish tank. They had him do a full dyno test on it. You could see the water get sucked up the pipe a ways, but never far enough to get in... There were a couple variables I could question, but it was interesting if nothing else. (: Levi On 12/15/05, Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those kind of things with the exposed filters or the cold air intakes are ok for a gas burner the lower compression makes thm a tad more forgiving, but if you put one on a diesel you'd better live in Death Valley, or plan on parking whenever it starts raining or you'll likely suck up a belly full of water into the engine. It doesn't take much on a diesel before it's all over but the crying. Diesel air filter housings are generally designed carefully with the thought of shedding water in mind. I've known a few people with VW and Volvo diesels who have gone that route with the sexy air intake setups, and blown the engines that way. One did it, just going through a big puddle at an intersection. -Robert David Brodbeck wrote: Harry M. wrote: Those setups are called cold air intakes, they increase the airflow to the engine and believe it or not have been proven to increase power. What was shown in the ebay link was *not* a cold air intake. It was under the hood. A true cold air intake needs to draw outside air, not under-hood air. An example of a *stock* cold air intake is the air intake on a Volvo 240. The airbox is connected to an intake pipe that runs around the radiator and opens just behind the grille. I found a setup for my Miata and with a nice exhaust it added a extra 20hp at the rear wheels. Have you verified that with a dyno, or is it just seat of the pants? In the dyno testing I've seen, even on old American cars with really restrictive air cleaners the gain was usually less than 5 hp. Often it was less than the variation between runs. If you've really gained 20 hp, it's probably mostly from the exhaust. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- It isn't what you have, or who you are, or where you are, or what you are doing that makes you happy or unhappy. It is what you think about. -Dale Carnegie
Re: [MBZ] OT: Scion
Yep, Scion. My folks (mid-70s, definitely NOT the target market) bought an Xa a year ago. My Dad says it's the most fun to drive since his first car, a '52 MGTD. No problems with it, get 40 mpg in mixed backroad/town driving. I've driven it--handles nicely, goes pretty well if you wind it up, feels very taught and of good quality. Dan Mitch Haley wrote: Steve MacSween wrote: No, the name just came to me: Xion, I think. It's a whole different line, something like Lexus is to Toyota, aimed at Gen Y consumers. The ones I am seeing up here are the minivan-line thingies. That's Scion. Supposed to sell the cars at full list price, like Saturn. They ship base models, and then the dealer adds the options. If I could get an xA for $10k, I'd do it, but I'm not paying $13k for one. Might be worth $13k for people who usually pay for options on cars, it comes standard with 160W stereo, ABS, A/C, power windowsmirrors, remote locks... http://www.edmunds.com/new/scion/index.html ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
Call us at 1-800-741-5252 Monday through Friday 9:00am till 5:00pm EST. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Piles Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:12 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials Hi Rusty how do I take advantage of this special? Thanks Mike Piles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:27 PM To: 'Mercedes mailing list' Subject: [MBZ] Year End Specials These are good ONLY until December 31st 2005 and they are VERY kick--- prices. W123 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $150 W124 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $185 No Wagons W126 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $195 W201 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $180 W123 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $230 W126 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $254 OEM Diesel Oil Filter Kit $7 OEM Diesel Fuel Filter Set (2) $7 Bosch Diesel Glow Plugs Most Diesels From 1977 to 1987 $11 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. http://www.BuyMBparts.com 1-800-741-5252 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
Correct. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LT Don Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:00 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials You call and ask to speak to anyone other than Gary. On 12/15/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rusty how do I take advantage of this special? Thanks Mike Piles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:27 PM To: 'Mercedes mailing list' Subject: [MBZ] Year End Specials These are good ONLY until December 31st 2005 and they are VERY kick--- prices. W123 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $150 W124 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $185 No Wagons W126 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $195 W201 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $180 W123 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $230 W126 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $254 OEM Diesel Oil Filter Kit $7 OEM Diesel Fuel Filter Set (2) $7 Bosch Diesel Glow Plugs Most Diesels From 1977 to 1987 $11 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. http://www.BuyMBparts.com 1-800-741-5252 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
The rears are the fronts aren't. Here is the deal, we will be wheeling and dealing on all parts for he rest of the year. If you need something call us, we'll make it worth your while. 1-800-741-5252 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:10 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials they are probably the same as 123 brakes, the pads are anyways. redghost wrote: Darn!! not deals on 114/115 brakes? Need some for Gump and was going to order before too much longer On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 12:27 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: These are good ONLY until December 31st 2005 and they are VERY kick--- prices. W123 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $150 W124 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $185 No Wagons W126 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $195 W201 FrontRear Brake Kit. Pagid Pads, Balo Rotors Sensors $180 W123 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $230 W126 Bilstein HD Shock Set (4) $254 OEM Diesel Oil Filter Kit $7 OEM Diesel Fuel Filter Set (2) $7 Bosch Diesel Glow Plugs Most Diesels From 1977 to 1987 $11 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. http://www.BuyMBparts.com 1-800-741-5252 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT
Marshall, The brake hoses (all 4 of them) and the rear calipers (ATE) are new. I never changed the differential fluid for whole time I owned this car (from 100k to now 250k). There was no leaks or anything last time I was under the car. I am hoping some new differential mounts may solve the problem but am having hard time to find the parts at Rusty's website. I need to give him a call. How long the differential mounts and flex plates tend to last on the W201's in your experience? Tan --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tan Qu wrote: Our '87 190Dt started to make some noise from the back of the car, more likely from where the rear end is. When the car accelerate from standstill (for exmaplen at a stop sign), the car feels being dragged, the engine RPM goes up but the actual car speed does not seem to go up and there is this churning sound from the back of the car. This happens mostly where the car makes right-hand turn from at the stop sign. I have replaced all brake pads and flushed the brake system thinking it was a dragging pad but it didn't seem to solve the problem. I am planning on to go back to lube the caliper pins to see if it would help. Could it be a sign that the differential or the axles are failing? It gives me a feeling the rear end wasn't engaged and the transmission spins without load when this happens. Or could it be failing companion coupling at the drive shaft or even the differential mount? Car has about 250k miles on it. Both the engine mounts and transmission mount were replaced not long ago. If the rear brake hoses have delaminated (not unusual after 15+ years) that MIGHT result in what you describe. If the differential mounts have failed that can allow the differential/axle assembly to twist and that can cause binding too. Not sure about the effects when some of the link bushings fail. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] ArcticQ - WVO burning
A support vehicle would be helpful and if you want to pull it together, go for it...but I think it's overkill. For example,. found the website of a lady who drove 21,000 around the US and to Deahorse in a Kia Sephia...found another one of a guy who went to Deadhorse in what looked like a Geo Metro - he arrived 12/13 -drove the Dalton the whole way in the dark - only reflectors kept him on the road. So if these people can do it, like that, it seems a bus/support vehicle is overkill. Now, watch my SD break a spring and be the only one that needs the services of a support vehicle! Chris redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking something more along the lines of a city bus reconfigured for arctic duty hauling, not holiday play. No motorhome plush, more of the space dedicated to storage and processing for breakdowns and fuel/water support. Have a welder/torch set up for roadside repairs. Maybe a defibrillator for those of us older than our cars and in worse shape. Base station for the radios and ability to drag cars out of melting permafrost On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 07:24 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: redghost wrote: That is where the support vehicle with onboard processing would be handy. Take the WVO and toss it into a settling/separating tank and a few hours later be able to dispense workable fuel. Take the real waste gunk and make bear cakes for feeding the scraps to grizzlies The VeggieVan (Winnebago LeSharo) has a biodiesel processing trailer that drags along behind it. If you can imagine a 240D motorhome towing a trailer full of oil and equipment, you've got the general idea. I believe the Renault 4 banger in the Winnie is about as strong as a 240D. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 15 14:52:33 2005 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EmuTB-0007nI-Eg for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:52:33 + Received: from dogear.com ([206.63.94.252]) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jBFEqdcM020980; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:52:39 -0800 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:52:26 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:52:40 -0800 (PST) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:52:33 - An example of a *stock* cold air intake is the air intake on a Volvo 240. The airbox is connected to an intake pipe that runs around the radiator and opens just behind the grille. Another such example is the air intake of a 300 SDL. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
Maybe he didnt know the head was cracked. Brian Smyla wrote: Thanks, Tom. Well, I've got about $7K in the car right now, probably need another $2k to get it 'perfect', including paint. Yes, I believe the car is worth it, since I'll probably drive it much longer than something I'd buy for $30 - 40K at a dealership. You're right about the 'caveat emptor' clause, but my complaint is more along the lines of dishonesty within the classic Benz owners' community. Brian Smyla -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:57 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant Brian, This all falls under the let the buyer beware clause. You should have done your homework on the car before purchasing it. I've owned 15 old Mercedes to date and I've put serious money into every good deal that I have bough to date. These days, I just figure that I'll have to put $2,000 into anything I buy. And that's after I check out the car and decide that it's in good shape. But you need to understand that I'll purchase an older Mercedes then I'll put 50,000 + miles a year on it. My latest Mercedes, a 1987 300SDL, cost me $1600.00 the first month I owned it. About this time last year, the transmission cost me $1760.00 but at least it got me home. I'm nursing a cracked head or bad head gasket and have been doing so for over 50,000 miles. Even with all of these costs, it's still cheaper than the rate that my Wife's new Grand Cherokee is depreciating and I won't complain. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Smyla Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant Thanks to all those that replied to my question about the vacuum pump port. I had the engine replaced with a used one, and the shop that did the work warranted the engine for 30 days. The day after I picked the car up, the engine wouldn't stop. I took it back to have the problem resolved, and was told the problem was in the vacuum transducers near the turbo. I took the car back, then discovered that there wasn't any vacuum on the small port on the pump. Also, the climate control had air coming from the defrost ports only, and the shifting was very hard, as was mentioned in some of your replies. I had a very bad experience with this engine replacement. The shop owner claims to have many years experience working on MBZ products, but when I picked the car up, the heat didn't work (mechanic said it was a problem with my climate control), the starter engaged intermittently, the idler pulley was chafing the back side of the belt, a turbo support bracket was missing, and various bolts were missing here and there. I spent three hours checking the climate control, only to finally figure out that the mechanic had left a plug in the return water pipe where it connects to the heater hose that comes off the monovalve. I returned the car for repair of the other problems. They fixed the starter issue, installed the turbo bracket ( after arguing with me on the phone for 5 minutes that the bracket didn't exist ), told me the idler pulley wasn't part of what was warranted ( the idler pulley was from the replacement engine, and I told him that since it wasn't under warranty, I wanted my old one back ), and said the shutoff problem was in the emission control transducers, which I know is BS, because there's no vacuum on the port to start with. If anyone's interested, the shop is Chaney's Auto Service in Ringgold, VA. I'm not going back. Oh, and he charged me $2000 for the replacement engine, labor to remove the replacement engine from the donor vehicle, promised me a 10% cash discount from the original quoted price, then added enough miscellaneous parts (motor mounts, used starter, hoses, etc..) to make up the difference. Go figure. And no, it's not worth going to court over. And to make matters worse, I bought the car from Stefan Schultze, who assured me that the only thing wrong with it was bad hood hinges. Flew to Indiana to pick it up, where he told me that the heater had been intermittently working. Drove it back, then discovered it had a cracked head. All 6 cylinders. Refused to reply to follow up emails asking for a $1k concession. I know, my fault, caveat emptor and all that. Thanks for letting me vent. Brian Smyla ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
Rusty wrote: Here is the deal, we will be wheeling and dealing on all parts for he rest of the year. If you need something call us, we'll make it worth your while. Sounds like Rusty is going to make us an offer we can't refuse. Donald H. Snook
[MBZ] OT: Genset
Thought I'd keep y'all up to date since there has been some interest in this in the past: December 5, 2005 Remounted the positive battery cable to eliminate the short to ground, then hooked up the battery bank and tried flipping the start switch. Nothing. I jumpered the start terminal on the solenoid and it clanked nicely, but there was no sign of engine turnover. I didn't have any more time to mess with it today as I spent most of the day working on the snowblower. (Again.) I don't even know if it was drawing any starting current, nor whether the feeble battery bank was capable of driving anything more than the solenoid. December 12, 2005 With holiday parties temporarily put to bed I was able to look at the genset again. Armed with a couple sheets of enlarged schematics, two as-charged-as-they'll-ever-be crap batteries and the Fluke I went out into the cold. With the battery bank hooked up, I was able to find that +24V was not making it to the Start/Stop switch, yet did make it to the emergency stop switch. According to the schematic the most likely offending party was the overspeed switch, or if not installed, Jumper #1. I looked at the terminal block where the switch would have been hooked up, and found a jumper. OK; what I did _not_ find were _two_ screws hooking the jumper to the block: I only found one. So I raided the junkbox to find a suitable screw and hooked it back up properly. With that done, the Start switch now had power to it, so I flipped it on. CHUNK! The starter relay fired. A second or so later, it was CHUNKA-CHUNKA-CHUNKA... The feeble battery bank was dying, causing rapid cycling of the solenoid. One of the two 12V batteries reads 0V during this condition. The motor never did turn over, but according to the Fluke I only was getting 100A or so at the peak of current draw. Hardly enough, I'd think. I'm going to need some real battery power to proceed much further. I put the feebs back on the charger anyway. December 13, 2005 I cleaned up and resoldered the ruined positive battery clamp back to its cable. (Acetylene sure makes this kind of heavy heating a snap.) I hope this will end up being part of the inter-battery tie cable. Interestingly enough, the clamp is brass, not the more common lead. I pulled the spark plugs and tried 'starting' it again. No joy, so I put a wrench on the tail of the exciter and twisted at the same time. It didn't take much of a twist and the set started turning, about a half second before the batteries died again. I really need new batteries! ...I went out and bought two used batteries at the U-Pull. $26, I hope that this will cure the problems for now. When I got home, I put them on the charger for tomorrow. I bought the two biggest batteries they had. Not matched in size, c'est la vie. December 14, 2005 I hooked up the 'new' batteries, and hit the start button. WOOKA-WOOKA-WOOKA-WOOKA... Hooray! The thing spun over easily, at a pretty good clip. I put the spark (paint!) plugs back in, and tried again. WOOKA-WOOKA-WOOKA-WOOKA... Cool, this thing is going to work! It draws more than 350A initial starting current, this drops off pretty good once it's spinning. I notice no sparking or any other evilness on the exciter/starter, so that's OK. The shop rag over the exhaust port bellies up nicely when it's spinning. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
Yup. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials Rusty wrote: Here is the deal, we will be wheeling and dealing on all parts for he rest of the year. If you need something call us, we'll make it worth your while. Sounds like Rusty is going to make us an offer we can't refuse. Donald H. Snook ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
Hey Tom, I'm currently going through that with my 190D. I won't even talk about how much I paid, but I decided I was going to make it into a very nice car before I started driving it. Brakes Thermostat Monovalve flexjoint motormounts ball joint tie rod end switches drivers seat On that last point, does anybody have a driver's seat for a w201? I have a quote of $500 to rebuild it with a new seat frame. I wonder if this is something I could do myself and save some money? -Curt '85 190D 2.2l 5spd Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:57:06 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Brian, This all falls under the let the buyer beware clause. You should have done your homework on the car before purchasing it. I've owned 15 old Mercedes to date and I've put serious money into every good deal that I have bough to date. These days, I just figure that I'll have to put $2,000 into anything I buy. And that's after I check out the car and decide that it's in good shape. But you need to understand that I'll purchase an older Mercedes then I'll put 50,000 + miles a year on it. My latest Mercedes, a 1987 300SDL, cost me $1600.00 the first month I owned it. About this time last year, the transmission cost me $1760.00 but at least it got me home. I'm nursing a cracked head or bad head gasket and have been doing so for over 50,000 miles. Even with all of these costs, it's still cheaper than the rate that my Wife's new Grand Cherokee is depreciating and I won't complain. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 15 15:34:47 2005 Received: from bee.hiwaay.net ([216.180.54.11]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.52) id 1Emv83-0003wt-Fl for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:34:47 + Received: from tomserver (pcp04555837pcs.huntsv01.al.comcast.net [68.62.187.239]) by bee.hiwaay.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jBFFYhaM1231314 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:34:45 -0600 (CST) From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:34:48 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Importance: Normal X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:34:47 - Brian, I agree with Kaleb. He may not have known that the head was cracked, particularly if he was an owner who drove the car 3 miles to work and back. But on the other hand, you can't tell who's a crook and who's not and it's up to he buyer (You and I) to check out a car. An honest seller will have no problem with you doing your homework and will be earnestly concerned if you uncover a major issue. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:56 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant Maybe he didnt know the head was cracked. Brian Smyla wrote: Thanks, Tom. Well, I've got about $7K in the car right now, probably need another $2k to get it 'perfect', including paint. Yes, I believe the car is worth it, since I'll probably drive it much longer than something I'd buy for $30 - 40K at a dealership. You're right about the 'caveat emptor' clause, but my complaint is more along the lines of dishonesty within the classic Benz owners' community. Brian Smyla -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:57 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant Brian, This all
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
My local Tire Warehouse offers nitrogen, offers free refills if any leaks out. I've been sort of thinking that when I put new skins on the 190D I'll actually get nice tires for the first time in my life (rather than store brand) and maybe get the nitrogen, its only like $6 more. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:22:16 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-ED93C79 Outsmart everyone. Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps on so you know it's not air in there any more. Actually, I think some major stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 15 15:40:07 2005 Received: from pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.71]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EmvDA-0004pn-IQ for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:40:05 + Received: from dialup-4.244.102.229.dial1.stlouis1.level3.net ([4.244.102.229] helo=digger) by pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EmvD7-0001hi-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:40:02 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:40:06 -0700 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-97271EF X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:40:07 - Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen? Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:35 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: My local Tire Warehouse offers nitrogen, offers free refills if any leaks out. I've been sort of thinking that when I put new skins on the 190D I'll actually get nice tires for the first time in my life (rather than store brand) and maybe get the nitrogen, its only like $6 more. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:22:16 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-ED93C79 Outsmart everyone. Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps on so you know it's not air in there any more. Actually, I think some major stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset
Jim Good deal, sounds like you are close to success. You're a good writer and I always enjoy what you have to report, however, I still envy your justification to own a Unimog. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought I'd keep y'all up to date since there has been some interest in this in the past: December 5, 2005 Remounted the positive battery cable to eliminate the short to ground, then hooked up the battery bank and tried flipping the start switch. Nothing. I jumpered the start terminal on the solenoid and it clanked nicely, but there was no sign of engine turnover. I didn't have any more time to mess with it today as I spent most of the day working on the snowblower. (Again.) I don't even know if it was drawing any starting current, nor whether the feeble battery bank was capable of driving anything more than the solenoid. December 12, 2005 With holiday parties temporarily put to bed I was able to look at the genset again. Armed with a couple sheets of enlarged schematics, two as-charged-as-they'll-ever-be crap batteries and the Fluke I went out into the cold. With the battery bank hooked up, I was able to find that +24V was not making it to the Start/Stop switch, yet did make it to the emergency stop switch. According to the schematic the most likely offending party was the overspeed switch, or if not installed, Jumper #1. I looked at the terminal block where the switch would have been hooked up, and found a jumper. OK; what I did _not_ find were _two_ screws hooking the jumper to the block: I only found one. So I raided the junkbox to find a suitable screw and hooked it back up properly. With that done, the Start switch now had power to it, so I flipped it on. CHUNK! The starter relay fired. A second or so later, it was CHUNKA-CHUNKA-CHUNKA... The feeble battery bank was dying, causing rapid cycling of the solenoid. One of the two 12V batteries reads 0V during this condition. The motor never did turn over, but according to the Fluke I only was getting 100A or so at the peak of current draw. Hardly enough, I'd think. I'm going to need some real battery power to proceed much further. I put the feebs back on the charger anyway. December 13, 2005 I cleaned up and resoldered the ruined positive battery clamp back to its cable. (Acetylene sure makes this kind of heavy heating a snap.) I hope this will end up being part of the inter-battery tie cable. Interestingly enough, the clamp is brass, not the more common lead. I pulled the spark plugs and tried 'starting' it again. No joy, so I put a wrench on the tail of the exciter and twisted at the same time. It didn't take much of a twist and the set started turning, about a half second before the batteries died again. I really need new batteries! ...I went out and bought two used batteries at the U-Pull. $26, I hope that this will cure the problems for now. When I got home, I put them on the charger for tomorrow. I bought the two biggest batteries they had. Not matched in size, c'est la vie. December 14, 2005 I hooked up the 'new' batteries, and hit the start button. WOOKA-WOOKA-WOOKA-WOOKA... Hooray! The thing spun over easily, at a pretty good clip. I put the spark (paint!) plugs back in, and tried again. WOOKA-WOOKA-WOOKA-WOOKA... Cool, this thing is going to work! It draws more than 350A initial starting current, this drops off pretty good once it's spinning. I notice no sparking or any other evilness on the exciter/starter, so that's OK. The shop rag over the exhaust port bellies up nicely when it's spinning. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market
That surprises me as Scion = Toyota and anybody thats ever priced a used Camry has seen Toyota's magic at work. I had a Kia Optima as a rental once. It was a decent car, gas mileage was not its high point (about 24mpg with a 4cyl) but better than a Chevy Cobalt (also 4cyl) I had (about 20mpg, yuck!) and I drove the stink out of it. Decent power, I had it in San Francisco and it had plenty to pull the hills there. Suzuki also makes a decent product but is underrated in my opinion. The Vitara is surprisingly a good woods truck. My Dad had a Chevy Tracker which was just a rebadged Vitara (you could even buy parts from the Suzuki dealer and save money) and it was excellent in the woods. In fact the Tracker was MUCH better in the woods than his Jeep Liberty which is Trail Rated. I dunno what trail they rated it on but we dragged the Liberty about everywhere we went last November. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:37:26 -0600 From: Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed It's interesting, awhile back I got a thing from one of my banks trying to get me to buy a new car so they could be kind enough to collect interest from me, and I noticed they had a few stipulations on some car makes that they wouldn't loan money on, Scion was on the list, along with suzuki, KIA, and that other korean one that I don't think was around long after I got the ad, and a number of other makes with questionable dealer support. I wish I had kept the ad, it was rather telling of which car companies just weren't doing it. --Robert - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 15 15:49:58 2005 Received: from bee.hiwaay.net ([216.180.54.11]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.52) id 1EmvMk-0005ts-I2 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:49:58 + Received: from tomserver (pcp04555837pcs.huntsv01.al.comcast.net [68.62.187.239]) by bee.hiwaay.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jBFFnsSq1189243 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:49:56 -0600 (CST) From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:49:59 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Importance: Normal X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:49:58 - Temperature changes will affect the nitrogen the same. The real gain is no moisture but to get there you need to fill bleed out the nitrogen 3 - 4 times so that all of the air is purged out of the tire. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:40 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen? Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:35 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: My local Tire Warehouse offers nitrogen, offers free refills if any leaks out. I've been sort of thinking that when I put new skins on the 190D I'll actually get nice tires for the first time in my life (rather than store brand) and maybe get the nitrogen, its only like $6 more. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:22:16 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
List, Is that what the stores do who fill up tires with nitrogen? Thanks, Tom At 09:49 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Temperature changes will affect the nitrogen the same. The real gain is no moisture but to get there you need to fill bleed out the nitrogen 3 - 4 times so that all of the air is purged out of the tire. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:40 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen? Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:35 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: My local Tire Warehouse offers nitrogen, offers free refills if any leaks out. I've been sort of thinking that when I put new skins on the 190D I'll actually get nice tires for the first time in my life (rather than store brand) and maybe get the nitrogen, its only like $6 more. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:22:16 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-ED93C79 Outsmart everyone. Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps on so you know it's not air in there any more. Actually, I think some major stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
Actually, upon looking at the statement, temperature changes will affect nitrogen the same that's not true. Being more inert (less water content) than compressed air, a nitrogen filled tire will not be nearly as affected by temperature variations as a compressed air filled tire. Thus, it's safer, easier to control for racing conditions (one less variable to worry about), etc. Used by airlines and NASCAR for the two reasons cited above, and the list goes on, check Google. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 09:54 AM 12/15/2005 -0700, you wrote: List, Is that what the stores do who fill up tires with nitrogen? Thanks, Tom At 09:49 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Temperature changes will affect the nitrogen the same. The real gain is no moisture but to get there you need to fill bleed out the nitrogen 3 - 4 times so that all of the air is purged out of the tire. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:40 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen? Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:35 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: My local Tire Warehouse offers nitrogen, offers free refills if any leaks out. I've been sort of thinking that when I put new skins on the 190D I'll actually get nice tires for the first time in my life (rather than store brand) and maybe get the nitrogen, its only like $6 more. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:22:16 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-ED93C79 Outsmart everyone. Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps on so you know it's not air in there any more. Actually, I think some major stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
Probably not and at 32 PSI, you will end up with 1/3 air mixed with 2/3 pure nitrogen. The results still are better than just air since you will have 1/3 the moisture in your tires. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:55 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) List, Is that what the stores do who fill up tires with nitrogen? Thanks, Tom At 09:49 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Temperature changes will affect the nitrogen the same. The real gain is no moisture but to get there you need to fill bleed out the nitrogen 3 - 4 times so that all of the air is purged out of the tire. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:40 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen? Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:35 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: My local Tire Warehouse offers nitrogen, offers free refills if any leaks out. I've been sort of thinking that when I put new skins on the 190D I'll actually get nice tires for the first time in my life (rather than store brand) and maybe get the nitrogen, its only like $6 more. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:22:16 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-ED93C79 Outsmart everyone. Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps on so you know it's not air in there any more. Actually, I think some major stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Mercy http://makeashorterlink.com/?N2BD3415C Bob Rentfro '77 300D 144K Litchfield Park, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 15 16:21:35 2005 Received: from pop-borzoi.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.70]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EmvrL-pY-G3 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:21:35 + Received: from dialup-4.244.102.229.dial1.stlouis1.level3.net ([4.244.102.229] helo=digger) by pop-borzoi.atl.sa.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EmvrI-0006mM-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:21:33 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:21:37 -0700 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-1536281 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:21:35 - Kinda like filling up at Sunoco with their blended pumps. Remember that? Is Sunoco still around, and if so, do they still give you the option of Sunoco 260 and down to whatever their lowest grade was? Hmmm Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 10:15 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Probably not and at 32 PSI, you will end up with 1/3 air mixed with 2/3 pure nitrogen. The results still are better than just air since you will have 1/3 the moisture in your tires. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:55 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) List, Is that what the stores do who fill up tires with nitrogen? Thanks, Tom At 09:49 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Temperature changes will affect the nitrogen the same. The real gain is no moisture but to get there you need to fill bleed out the nitrogen 3 - 4 times so that all of the air is purged out of the tire. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:40 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen? Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:35 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: My local Tire Warehouse offers nitrogen, offers free refills if any leaks out. I've been sort of thinking that when I put new skins on the 190D I'll actually get nice tires for the first time in my life (rather than store brand) and maybe get the nitrogen, its only like $6 more. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:22:16 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-ED93C79 Outsmart everyone. Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps on so you know it's not air in there any more. Actually, I think some major stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date:
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
There is a big sunoco refinery over in west tulsa your direction, close to the big sinclair refinery. Tom Reynolds wrote: Kinda like filling up at Sunoco with their blended pumps. Remember that? Is Sunoco still around, and if so, do they still give you the option of Sunoco 260 and down to whatever their lowest grade was? Hmmm Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 10:15 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Probably not and at 32 PSI, you will end up with 1/3 air mixed with 2/3 pure nitrogen. The results still are better than just air since you will have 1/3 the moisture in your tires. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:55 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) List, Is that what the stores do who fill up tires with nitrogen? Thanks, Tom At 09:49 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Temperature changes will affect the nitrogen the same. The real gain is no moisture but to get there you need to fill bleed out the nitrogen 3 - 4 times so that all of the air is purged out of the tire. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:40 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen? Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:35 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: My local Tire Warehouse offers nitrogen, offers free refills if any leaks out. I've been sort of thinking that when I put new skins on the 190D I'll actually get nice tires for the first time in my life (rather than store brand) and maybe get the nitrogen, its only like $6 more. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:22:16 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-ED93C79 Outsmart everyone. Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps on so you know it's not air in there any more. Actually, I think some major stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
If there's a Tire Discounters where you are, they exclusively use nitrogen to fill all the tires they sell. I think it's a gimmick, though - you're not driving fast enough to really take advantage of the properties of nitrogen filling. On 12/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a big sunoco refinery over in west tulsa your direction, close to the big sinclair refinery. Tom Reynolds wrote: Kinda like filling up at Sunoco with their blended pumps. Remember that? Is Sunoco still around, and if so, do they still give you the option of Sunoco 260 and down to whatever their lowest grade was? Hmmm Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 10:15 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Probably not and at 32 PSI, you will end up with 1/3 air mixed with 2/3 pure nitrogen. The results still are better than just air since you will have 1/3 the moisture in your tires. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:55 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) List, Is that what the stores do who fill up tires with nitrogen? Thanks, Tom At 09:49 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Temperature changes will affect the nitrogen the same. The real gain is no moisture but to get there you need to fill bleed out the nitrogen 3 - 4 times so that all of the air is purged out of the tire. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:40 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen? Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:35 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: My local Tire Warehouse offers nitrogen, offers free refills if any leaks out. I've been sort of thinking that when I put new skins on the 190D I'll actually get nice tires for the first time in my life (rather than store brand) and maybe get the nitrogen, its only like $6 more. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:22:16 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-ED93C79 Outsmart everyone. Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps on so you know it's not air in there any more. Actually, I think some major stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see
Re: [MBZ] OT: Scion
the real gem of the Scion lineup is the tC - stick shift, looks good, gets good mileage, and is built on a proven, reliable platform. At around $17,000, it's a pretty good deal if you're wanting (or settling for) a 2 door. On 12/15/05, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, Scion. My folks (mid-70s, definitely NOT the target market) bought an Xa a year ago. My Dad says it's the most fun to drive since his first car, a '52 MGTD. No problems with it, get 40 mpg in mixed backroad/town driving. I've driven it--handles nicely, goes pretty well if you wind it up, feels very taught and of good quality. Dan Mitch Haley wrote: Steve MacSween wrote: No, the name just came to me: Xion, I think. It's a whole different line, something like Lexus is to Toyota, aimed at Gen Y consumers. The ones I am seeing up here are the minivan-line thingies. That's Scion. Supposed to sell the cars at full list price, like Saturn. They ship base models, and then the dealer adds the options. If I could get an xA for $10k, I'd do it, but I'm not paying $13k for one. Might be worth $13k for people who usually pay for options on cars, it comes standard with 160W stereo, ABS, A/C, power windowsmirrors, remote locks... http://www.edmunds.com/new/scion/index.html ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen
I was in Guadalajara Mexico this Summer and there were car washers that were pushing this, they seemed to be having a lot of success getting customers. Surprised people would pay for this, sort of, luxury item. Dan 82 300D-T 90kmi Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen
I understand it helps to prevent leaks with aluminum wheels. Exactly why, I am not sure? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen I was in Guadalajara Mexico this Summer and there were car washers that were pushing this, they seemed to be having a lot of success getting customers. Surprised people would pay for this, sort of, luxury item. Dan 82 300D-T 90kmi Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
Curt Raymond wrote: Hey Tom, I'm currently going through that with my 190D. I won't even talk about how much I paid, but I decided I was going to make it into a very nice car before I started driving it. Brakes Thermostat Monovalve flexjoint motormounts ball joint tie rod end switches drivers seat On that last point, does anybody have a driver's seat for a w201? I have a quote of $500 to rebuild it with a new seat frame. I wonder if this is something I could do myself and save some money? A 201 DOESN'T have a monovalve (124/126s have them). It has a vacuum operated heater valve that can't be repaired and requires replacement about every 12-15 years but that only costs about $20. In where part of the country are you located and what color are the seats in your 190D?? Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset
I still envy your justification to own a Unimog. Humph, the justification was pretty much I want it. The rest has all been rationalization and make-work! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
Tom Reynolds wrote: Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen? The air surrounding us is 80% nitrogen! The removal of the 20% that consists MOSTLY of oxygen and carbon dioxide doesn't substantially change the way the gas reacts to temperature. There are some theoretical advantages to using nitrogen compared to using air, but the reward doesn't begin to warrant the cost (the reward is extremely small and the cost in money and aggravation is relatively MUCH larger IN MY OPINION). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
On that last point, does anybody have a driver's seat for a w201? I have a quote of $500 to rebuild it with a new seat frame. I wonder if this is something I could do myself and save some money? It is very common to take a donor passenger seat and to combine parts to make a good driver's seat. I have a seat set for the 201 (or did I have two?), and the best passenger cover is now in our 107. We do now own a 201 car, so I may well be using my extra parts. I vowed not to touch the 190D until the genset was back together again, so it's getting close. A pair of front seats is $20 at the U-Pull here, that's where I got the extras. I figured $20 for a good seat cover that might work in the SL was a good deal, and any extra use I got out of them would be gravy. Shipping entire seats is a bit of a killer, though. Your best bet (cost-wise) is to find something locally. To be fair, your $500 will get you an as-new seat, other approaches will give you somewhat less. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT
Tan Qu wrote: Marshall, The brake hoses (all 4 of them) and the rear calipers (ATE) are new. I never changed the differential fluid for whole time I owned this car (from 100k to now 250k). There was no leaks or anything last time I was under the car. I am hoping some new differential mounts may solve the problem but am having hard time to find the parts at Rusty's website. I need to give him a call. How long the differential mounts and flex plates tend to last on the W201's in your experience? Differential mounts have been replaced in two of the 5 201s I've owned. They probably last 15-18 years or about 200kmi. They are responsible for positioning the differential and rear axle. The subframe mounts have the primary job of isolating the differential from the chassis and changing from 201 to 202 subframe mounts quiets differential noise A LOT! What you are describing is NOT a common complaint and I don't have a sure-fire answer for it - I'm GUESSING. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen
Dan writes: I was in Guadalajara Mexico this Summer and there were car washers that were pushing this, they seemed to be having a lot of success getting customers. Surprised people would pay for this, sort of, luxury item. It's a brand extension of the oxygen bar. Lee
Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers
Hans said What I was told is if you push the bumper down and let go, it should come up and stay there. If it bounces up and down - needs new shocks. Not always the case. I did this test on my 1977 300D. Passed with flying colors, when I did the push test. But still drove like trash. Had old monroe shocks on it. Changed to Bilestiens. Best thing I ever did. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 1979 240D - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers What I was told is if you push the bumper down and let go, it should come up and stay there. If it bounces up and down - needs new shocks. Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D On 12/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you know when to replace the shocks ? Does anybody ever just keep the orginals ?-- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT
Does W201 use the same differential mounts as the W124 or other models? I can find the mounts for W124 at Rusty's website but not for W201. Also, is there a particular reason you used W202 subframe mount in lieu of the original W201 mounts just part availability issue? Tan --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tan Qu wrote: Marshall, The brake hoses (all 4 of them) and the rear calipers (ATE) are new. I never changed the differential fluid for whole time I owned this car (from 100k to now 250k). There was no leaks or anything last time I was under the car. I am hoping some new differential mounts may solve the problem but am having hard time to find the parts at Rusty's website. I need to give him a call. How long the differential mounts and flex plates tend to last on the W201's in your experience? Differential mounts have been replaced in two of the 5 201s I've owned. They probably last 15-18 years or about 200kmi. They are responsible for positioning the differential and rear axle. The subframe mounts have the primary job of isolating the differential from the chassis and changing from 201 to 202 subframe mounts quiets differential noise A LOT! What you are describing is NOT a common complaint and I don't have a sure-fire answer for it - I'm GUESSING. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant -NOW SEATS
In my experience, the driver seat in the W201 does not provide as good lumbar support as the W124 or even my old W123 240D seat. If you can find an used W124 E320 orthopedic seat and make it work you will be very happy, especially if you are going to make long trips in that car. Tan --- Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On that last point, does anybody have a driver's seat for a w201? I have a quote of $500 to rebuild it with a new seat frame. I wonder if this is something I could do myself and save some money? It is very common to take a donor passenger seat and to combine parts to make a good driver's seat. I have a seat set for the 201 (or did I have two?), and the best passenger cover is now in our 107. We do now own a 201 car, so I may well be using my extra parts. I vowed not to touch the 190D until the genset was back together again, so it's getting close. A pair of front seats is $20 at the U-Pull here, that's where I got the extras. I figured $20 for a good seat cover that might work in the SL was a good deal, and any extra use I got out of them would be gravy. Shipping entire seats is a bit of a killer, though. Your best bet (cost-wise) is to find something locally. To be fair, your $500 will get you an as-new seat, other approaches will give you somewhat less. -- Jim ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Scion
A guy I work with drove one and didn't like it, said it felt cheap. For reference he drives a '99 Acura Integra. Also interesting to note is a comparably equipped Civic or Corolla is cheaper... -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:28:37 -0500 From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Scion To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 the real gem of the Scion lineup is the tC - stick shift, looks good, gets good mileage, and is built on a proven, reliable platform. At around $17,000, it's a pretty good deal if you're wanting (or settling for) a 2 door. - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 15 17:51:51 2005 Received: from bee.hiwaay.net ([216.180.54.11]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.52) id 1EmxGh-0002MP-IN for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:51:51 + Received: from tomserver (pcp04555837pcs.huntsv01.al.comcast.net [68.62.187.239]) by bee.hiwaay.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jBFHplfI1267185 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:51:48 -0600 (CST) From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:51:52 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Importance: Normal X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:51:51 - Tom S., A big part of your issue was Monroe verses Bilstien. I put Monroe shocks on one of my Mercedes once and will never do it again. They were dead in 12,000 miles. I don't know for sure but I believe that the Mercedes just wore out the hydraulic fluid inside the shocks. They still had their gas charge and the car still passed the bounce test when I pulled them off. Just go ahead and purchase your Bilstien shocks from Rusty. Both Rusty and you Mercedes will appreciate you for the new shocks. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Scordato Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:32 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers Hans said What I was told is if you push the bumper down and let go, it should come up and stay there. If it bounces up and down - needs new shocks. Not always the case. I did this test on my 1977 300D. Passed with flying colors, when I did the push test. But still drove like trash. Had old monroe shocks on it. Changed to Bilestiens. Best thing I ever did. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 1979 240D - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers What I was told is if you push the bumper down and let go, it should come up and stay there. If it bounces up and down - needs new shocks. Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D On 12/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you know when to replace the shocks ? Does anybody ever just keep the orginals ?-- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
Jiminy crickets, learn something new every day! Is there an online source for the 201 manual? I want to fix this, the PO bubba'd in a manual shutoff valve in the heater hose. I'm in New England. The interior is tan, but a lighter tan than my 240D. I think I'm probably up to swapping the upholstry (which is not perfect but good enough) if I had a seatbottom that wasn't all squashed out and broken. theres obviously a broken spring in the drivers seat although its not currently sticking through the seat there is a hole. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:46:58 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed A 201 DOESN'T have a monovalve (124/126s have them). It has a vacuum operated heater valve that can't be repaired and requires replacement about every 12-15 years but that only costs about $20. In where part of the country are you located and what color are the seats in your 190D?? Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 15 17:57:06 2005 Received: from pop-savannah.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.69]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EmxLl-000324-UU for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:57:06 + Received: from elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.224.37]) by pop-savannah.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EmxLj-Cw-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:57:03 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:57:03 -0500 (EST) From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:57:06 - the '85 300D my parents bought from Kaleb had Monroe's on it. HOW DARE YOU Kaleb! Ok, I know it was the PO. -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 15, 2005 12:51 PM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers Tom S., A big part of your issue was Monroe verses Bilstien. I put Monroe shocks on one of my Mercedes once and will never do it again. They were dead in 12,000 miles. I don't know for sure but I believe that the Mercedes just wore out the hydraulic fluid inside the shocks. They still had their gas charge and the car still passed the bounce test when I pulled them off. Just go ahead and purchase your Bilstien shocks from Rusty. Both Rusty and you Mercedes will appreciate you for the new shocks. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Scordato Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:32 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers Hans said What I was told is if you push the bumper down and let go, it should come up and stay there. If it bounces up and down - needs new shocks. Not always the case. I did this test on my 1977 300D. Passed with flying colors, when I did the push test. But still drove like trash. Had old monroe shocks on it. Changed to Bilestiens. Best thing I ever did. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 1979 240D - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers What I was told is if you push the bumper down and let go, it should come up and stay there. If it bounces up and down - needs new shocks. Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D On 12/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you know when to replace the shocks ? Does anybody ever just
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
So does Costco, as well as my favorite independent tire chain - neither charges anything extra for it, and both are happy to check pressure and add more anytime it's needed. But only Costco seems to use the neat green caps! Rob -Original Message- From: Sunil Hari If there's a Tire Discounters where you are, they exclusively use nitrogen to fill all the tires they sell.
