[newbie-it] Da postscript ad html
salve, c'e' qualche utility che converta da .ps ad .html?
[newbie-it] transcode (era: conversione formati video )
Alle 08:03, mercoledì 17 settembre 2003, Rev.Ferris ha scritto: ... Quando impari ad usare transcode mi fai sapere? io intanto uso il mencoder ma vorrei provare anche quello. Ciao e fammi sapere com'è andata! Luigi Ho cavato qualche ragno dal buco con transcode, così ti aggiorno; mi ha convertito un filmato avi in xvid. Non pretendo che queste operazioni siano il percorso più lineare, ma intanto così funziona e poi c'è spazio per ulteriori scoperte. Ho scaricato il pacchetto xvidcore-0.9.2.tar.gz da www.xvid.org, l'ho decompresso ed ho compilato la roba che stava nella sua sottocartella build. Lui ha creato delle librerie in usr/local/lib: qui ho preso libxvidcore.so.2.1 e l'ho copiato nella cartella di transcode (che è nello stesso posto, /usr/local/lib/transcode) e gli ho cambiato il nome togliendo l'estensione .2.1, in pratica è rimasto libxvidcore.so . A questo punto mi accetta il comando $ transcode -i file_da_convertire.avi -o file_convertito -y xvid2 Risultato: ottima qualità passando da 219,7 a 1,9 MB! Con transcode conviene dare comandi abbozzati e anche se non funziona leggere attentamente la risposta; ad esempio si capisce che se si chiede -y [stringa] lui cerca i file lib[stringa]core.so e import_[stringa].so, e questi devono stare nella stessa cartella. Spero che questo possa costituire una partenza anche per te, se scopri altre cose fammi sapere. Ciao Giorgio _ Rieccomi qui e nei miei veri panni: capitano Pinky Pack delle guardie reali di PINGUNIA! da Topolino e l'ultraghiaccio Topolino n. 597, 7 maggio 1967
[newbie-it] 2 questions
Nel mio vagare nel sistema in cerca di indizzi che mi facciano capire perchè l'audio (dal lontano giorno che ho mollato windoze) si rifiuta di funzionare (rifiutandomi cocciutamente di reinstallare) mi sono imbattuto in quest messaggio: Linux version 2.4.21-0.13mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.2-3mdk)) #1 Fri Mar 14 15:08:06 EST 2003 [...] testing the IO APIC... IO APIC #2.. register #00: 0200 ...: physical APIC id: 02 register #01: 00178003 ... : max redirection entries: 0017 ... : PRQ implemented: 1 ... : IO APIC version: 0003 An unexpected IO-APIC was found. If this kernel release is less than three months old please report this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] che si fa in questo caso? Poi, sempre nei messaggi del kernel... [...] Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:29:58 Mar 14 2003 devfs_register(sound/audio): could not append to parent, err: -17 NeoMagic 256AV/256ZX audio driver, version 1.1p Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:29:58 Mar 14 2003 (Neomagic ??? e da dove salta fuori? ) il chipset è giusto.. ma come driver vorrei Alsa, visto che Arts funziona una dritta per piacere...di manuali vari ne ho letti parecchi ma non sono riuscito a capire dove sta' l'inghippo Graxie...zang
Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, John Richard Smith wrote: Dale Huckeby wrote: . . . The time each takes to print one of a sample page, from the time I press the Okay button till the copy slides out, is 18 seconds for Economy Grayscale, 23 seconds for Economy, 28 seconds for Normal Grayscale, 62 seconds for Normal, about a minute and a half for High Quality Grayscale, and about 4 minutes for High Quality. Normal and High Quality probably aren't distinguishable by the casual viewer, but held side by side Normal is slightly thicker and muddier looking. Under a magnifying glass the edges would be fuzzier. High Quality has a slighter thinner, harder, sharp-edged printshop look. High Quality Grayscale is just a little lighter. Normal Grayscale is actually hard to tell from High Quality, so I might switch to that as my default. I didn't test Very High Quality or Photo or their grayscales. By the way, the times above are for the first page, which includes the time it takes for the program to communicate with the printer. I just ran page 1 and 2 at Normal Grayscale and the first page was out at 28 seconds and the second at 51, so all subsequent pages should take about 23 seconds apiece. OK so that sounds interesting. Now the time taken to create the print file and send it complete to the printer is always going to be longer in linux with ghostscript employed than in windblows, that cannot be helped, the PCL5 to PCL3 conversion takes time, and in any case each individual computer is going to vary the time according to it's power to process etc. So how about taking a 600dpi scanned file in either .pnm or .jpg of an A4 colour page(it can be anything) then send that file to printer at say 600dpi High quality, and note the time from when the file first arrives at the spooling window (kde - peripherals - printer - jobs) and you start to hear the printer load the sheet of paper to completion of the printed page. I created a 600dpi scanned A4 colour page .jpg file of 3.4Mb, in gimp, which took just over 3 minutes to print from the moment the page loaded to final ejection from the Lexmark Z53 printer. That's a lot of numbercrunchingbut sets a big task to compare performances with. How long would your Epson C82 take to process the same size and type of file? Sorry, don't know what an A4 color page is, nor how to create one. If you'll tell me how to make one in gimp I'll do it but I don't know how meaningful the print comparison will be. I don't use kde so will probably be printing from the command line. (Anything that's not being printed from OOo, Opera, or Pine.) Dale Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Rete e Samba
UN saluto a tutti, mi chiamo Giuseppe e sono un nuovo arivato del mondo Mandrake. Nel mio piccolo studio ho tre pc collegati fra loro in rete. Tutti e tre sono dotati di sistema WIN ma vorrei che uno di loro venisse semplicemente utilizzato come server e perciò solamente per buttarci i backup di tutti i lavori, per esempio, della settimana. Allo scopo, e con l'intento di entrare in un nuovo mondo che già avevo tastato qualche anno fà, ho acquistato la Mandrake Power Pack che vorrei installare nel pc server. L'installazione è OK, come anche il riconoscimento di tutte le periferiche ma ho ancora dei dubbi: 1) mi consigliate su come far comunicare ora i 2 pc win col server Linux ? So che esiste Samba ma non ho idea sul come lanciare un backup da Win verso LInux. In particolare, se Samba è installato su Linux, cosa devo usare su Win per la comunicazione ? 2) In particolare, quali sono le configurazioni principali che devo dare a Samba per poter essere visto da Windows ? 3) Considerando poi che devo rendere il tutto abbastanza performante in quanto lo utilizzo per lavoro e non per hobby, pensate che il sistema sia davvero pratico, o molto meglio lasciare i tre sistemi dotati di win ? GRazie a tutti per le eventuali risposte e scusate per la lungaggine. Giuseppe --- Giuseppe Urru Databases Developer BEZIER Database e Web Service via S.Ignazio, 24 09098 TERRALBA (Or) Web: www.bezier.it Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:00:33 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the reality? What, if anything, do those of us who support computer/Internet privacy have to fear from the group and Trusted Computing Platforms? Plenty. First of all, the companies that constitute the Trusted Computing Group include many of the heavyweights of the personal computer industry -- Microsoft, IBM, Hewlett-Packard, Sony, Nokia and Intel, among others -- all of which are interested in protecting their interests, not yours. Most important, they propose to do this by advocating legislation that would require every computer sold to have a Trusted Platform Module. I know this is OT, but I just had to throw in my two cents worth on this. I read the article, and I was skeptical at first. I found the TCG site and read just their description of it and it sounded like just what is needed. So I proceeded to download the specification. I started reading the specification and my first reaction was that someone was being paranoid about all of this. It still sounded good. Then I started getting into some of the details. Now some of this is subject to interpretation, but this is how I interpreted it. In order for an entity (which could be a user or a software package) to take advantage of the TPM, it must have authorization data. Where does this authorization data come from? Not from the owner, (the person who physically owns the machine) not from the installer, although it could I suppose, but from another trusted entity. This entity can be over a network. Which if I'm interpreting this correctly, (bear in mind, I may not be, after all this was mind-numbing 332 pages worth of details) means that the company that produced the software can remotely download the authorization data onto your computer in order for your software to work. Furthermore, there is a validity field in this authorization data. That field c an have a time associated with it, which can define when the authorization data is valid for. There is how it is done! Of course you realize what this really means? Should this get implemented, everyone here in the US will start going over the border to get their computers and/or only run Linux on it. grin I apologize to all of those who are not in the US for this, but I wouldn't doubt but what if this does happen here that sooner or later it will start happening elsewhere. Be aware! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Spam filtering revisited
Hi Guys I have been dabbling with mailfilter and spamassassin. Spamassassin filters a few spam messages received and I have managed to get filters sorted out with KMail to send the SPAM* messages to a spam folder. Trying out maililter the logs show that the messages on the pop3 server have been looked at, but nothing deleted. I used the default settings so I'm gessing some rules are needed. My question is this : Having a spam folder with hundreds of rejected messages, is it possible to have some kind os script to generate rules from the spam headers ? I don't know much about scripts but perhaps someone on the list has done something similar. basically this is just to save me the time of manually adding individual rules to mailfilter and / or spamassassin. Alternatively is there another spam type application that could scan the spam folder and automatically generate rules, et al (helmet on) 'the other OS' (helmet off) type stuff. Thnaks as always. Mark -- Mark Annandale Mandrake 9.1 - KDE 3.1.3 - KMail 1.5.3 -- Absolutely no Microsoft products were used in the compilation of this document. -- The honeymoon is not actually over until we cease to stifle our sighs and begin to stifle our yawns. -- Helen Rowland Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 3:53 am, yankl wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 10:39 pm, HaywireMac wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:31:14 -0400 yankl [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: whack ROTFLMAO! Ok, back to reality, you just wasted 5 minutes of your life you will never get back... ;-) I donate this 5 minutes to the FSF/OSS foundation. Yank, man pages are great once you have a bit of experience under the belt. For a true newbie, many ar totally inpenetrable. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Damn newbie user!
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 12:02, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 08:15 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: The management part comes in when you get mobbed. ;) LX Lyvim: Good to hear that you survived Isabel. From what I could make out from the map in the News Disturber, she didn't miss you by much. -- cmg Three weeks ago the south-eastern coast of Australia was hit with winds that blasted us in excess of 140kph - causing damage and panic, loss of power and utilities, homes, a few lives - how come y'all don't hear a damn thing about that back in Yankland? Not a one person mentioned anything in the past three weeks about it...hmmm? Yet - the entire world has to know about a storm that hits the US...strange that is, don't ya reckon? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Inglish Spocken Hier: some mangled translations Various signs in Poland: Right turn toward immediate outside. Go soothingly in the snow, as there lurk the ski demons. Five o'clock tea at all hours. In a men's washroom in Sidney: Shake excess water from hands, push button to start, rub hands rapidly under air outlet and wipe hands on front of shirt. -- Colin Bowles, San Francisco Chronicle Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test sms response
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 12:55, yankl wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 10:49 pm, ed tharp wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 22:40, HaywireMac wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:39:43 -0400 yankl [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Test It is look like for each time I post I get an kaluga sms replay to me personally. You just noticed this *now*?! I say we blame Yankl for it Your previous rant just reached new levels of hilarity. Yes right. Blame the little guy. Hec, we always blame HoeJill/MayhireWac for things - guess yer turn is up mate...and remember - if mamaw had nuts she'd be papaw... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- ink, n.: A villainous compound of tannogallate of iron, gum-arabic, and water, chiefly used to facilitate the infection of idiocy and promote intellectual crime. -- H.L. Mencken Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Possibly OT - Returned Mail Messages of Unknown Origin
Dick Gevers wrote: Same here today. A couple early in the morning, and another string in the afternoon, all accompanied by fake Microsoft Security updates, and all the pairs had similar `return path` and/or `from` and/or `to`. My suspicion is that these are directly coming from virus disseminators. They are lousy to filter (I am using `mailfilter`; see Mandrake Club RPM Voting), because each pair has a completely different set of headers, but they all come with the same approximate size (~140-160 Kb), have a windows executable attached and the fake M$ ones also have two .gif type pictures. These aren't what I'm concerned about (although I have been getting them - those are almost certainly virii). What I've been getting are delivery failure messages with no attachments which make me wonder if I'm being used as a conduit for someone else's junk mail program and that these return mail messages are a result of junk mails sent to email addresses that are no longer in existence. Having said that, my firewall seems to be secure so far as I can tell. Stephen suggested that I should have a look at my postfix setup but I don't use a mailserver as my mail goes to and from my ISP via Mozilla without any intermediary. I suppose I could take Charlie's advice and filter them out but I'd still like to get to the bottom of what's going on. Who is sending these and why? As regards the suggestions for a vigilante organisation, I understand that most of the big time spammers are based in Florida. I suggest we start drawing up invasion plans :-) I'm still completely mystified by this - if I'm not being hacked and there's no virus attached, then what on earth is the point of these things? -- Graham Watkins On the whole, I preferred cats to women because cats seldom if ever used the word relationship.(Kinky Friedman - Greenwich Killing Time) Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test sms response
Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 10:39 pm, yankl wrote: Test It is look like for each time I post I get an kaluga sms replay to me personally. Yankl: Think of it as confirmation that your message has been received by Sympa and sent to the list. (Kaluga must be the Russian word for PITA.) -- cmg I assumed Kaluga was a kind of caviar, and this was some sort of advertising promotion - they are confirming that a small tin of best kaluga is in the mail to everyone who posts a message to the newbie list for a limited period only of course. There, I just qualified for another tin! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Possibly OT - Returned Mail Messages of Unknown Origin
Graham Watkins wrote: Dick Gevers wrote: Same here today. A couple early in the morning, and another string in the afternoon, all accompanied by fake Microsoft Security updates, and all the pairs had similar `return path` and/or `from` and/or `to`. My suspicion is that these are directly coming from virus disseminators. They are lousy to filter (I am using `mailfilter`; see Mandrake Club RPM Voting), because each pair has a completely different set of headers, but they all come with the same approximate size (~140-160 Kb), have a windows executable attached and the fake M$ ones also have two .gif type pictures. These aren't what I'm concerned about (although I have been getting them - those are almost certainly virii). What I've been getting are delivery failure messages with no attachments which make me wonder if I'm being used as a conduit for someone else's junk mail program and that these return mail messages are a result of junk mails sent to email addresses that are no longer in existence. Having said that, my firewall seems to be secure so far as I can tell. Stephen suggested that I should have a look at my postfix setup but I don't use a mailserver as my mail goes to and from my ISP via Mozilla without any intermediary. I suppose I could take Charlie's advice and filter them out but I'd still like to get to the bottom of what's going on. Who is sending these and why? As regards the suggestions for a vigilante organisation, I understand that most of the big time spammers are based in Florida. I suggest we start drawing up invasion plans :-) I'm still completely mystified by this - if I'm not being hacked and there's no virus attached, then what on earth is the point of these things? Graham, What this generally means is that the virus is replicating itself by using your email address, plucked from the address book of someone who uses Outlook Express. Have you ever sent an email to someone who uses OE? Or given your email address to someone who uses OE, which they've added to their address book? Or posted to a mailing list where someone else on the list uses OE? I bet you have, even if you didn't mean to! As your address is being used, the bounce messages are being (mis)directed to you. There is nothing you can do about it, except keeping your email address secret from everybody - which means not using it! Margot Got to go and pack my suitcase for Florida now - I hope they don't examine it too carefully when I enter the USA - I don't want them finding the nuclear warheads I've hidden under my spare bikini! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [Fwd: have I been hacked??]
Stephen Kuhn wrote: Grab iptraf from one of the contrib mirrors - tells you everything you want to know about the network traffic on your system and network...really...it's a great tool, mate... Grabbed it, installed it - nice display. But how do I interpret the info it provides? Or to put it another way, if I'm being hacked, what should I expect to see? -- Graham Watkins On the whole, I preferred cats to women because cats seldom if ever used the word relationship.(Kinky Friedman - Greenwich Killing Time) Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Damn newbie user!
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:04, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Three weeks ago the south-eastern coast of Australia was hit with winds that blasted us in excess of 140kph - causing damage and panic, loss of power and utilities, homes, a few lives - how come y'all don't hear a damn thing about that back in Yankland? Not a one person mentioned anything in the past three weeks about it...hmmm? Yet - the entire world has to know about a storm that hits the US...strange that is, don't ya reckon? Yeah... an' the South Island, NZ got hit with 170kph winds just a few days ago an' notawordaboutit??? Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xcdroast error
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 12:21, Bryan Phinney wrote: If you are trying to play these in a standalone CD player, you should be aware that CD Audio is slightly different from data or playing disks in a computer. Standlalone players are sometimes less forgiving of slight irregularities in the disk format. My wife's car, for instance, has a cd player that can play burned audio cds but only when they have been burned at 2x or less. As soon as I try to burn them at a faster rate, the cd player will report irregularities with the cd or do screwy things, like skipping certain tracks or reporting a disk error when it gets to particular tracks. My own car cd player will play cd audios recorded at any speed. Jeez! Just burnt another audio CD at 4x and it wouldn't play on my PC from my CD-ROM drive or the small stereo system in the kitchen. But after reading your message I tried it in the car stereo and voila! it works! And so did the other 7 CDs I thought were coasters! So now I have 8 bl**dy CDs all the same :) Sorry, I wasn't very specific there. I didn't actually copy on-the-fly, I ripped the audio CD to hard drive and then burnt to CDR. Each song plays fine from the hard drive. I even deleted them and ripped again several times using various apps, all with the same result. Just as a test, reduce the speed to 1x for recording and then see if it helps, if so, then I would suggest that the problem is not with the burner but with the player. Because I copied and pasted the command into konsole I forgot to change the speed from 4x. Will try that on the next one. Getting somewhere now anyways... Thanks for your help Bryan. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ATRAC CD Walkman
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 10:34 am, you wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 20 Sep 2003 7:08 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: I'd like to add an image file of the spiel on the back of the box, only it'd come to more than 100kb., then you could all see what you make of it. Would you send it to me at home, John? Anne OK, here it is , I think you may still need to dl the file attatched to hd and open in in gimp and then rescale the image to say 300% to read is easily. The original text was so small it's practically unreadable without a magnifying glass, at any rate for me. John Well, it does say *maximum* of 30 albums, which is pretty meaningless. I think my granddaughter's player says something like 'around 100 tracks', which doesn't mean much either, since a track can vary from ~2.5 minutes to 5 minutes. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Possibly OT - Returned Mail Messages of Unknown Origin
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 18:34, Margot wrote: Got to go and pack my suitcase for Florida now - I hope they don't examine it too carefully when I enter the USA - I don't want them finding the nuclear warheads I've hidden under my spare bikini! Bring the bikini and the body here for proper inspection. Can't be too careful, mate... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- You have a strong appeal for members of the opposite sex. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [Fwd: have I been hacked??]
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 18:28, Graham Watkins wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: Grab iptraf from one of the contrib mirrors - tells you everything you want to know about the network traffic on your system and network...really...it's a great tool, mate... Grabbed it, installed it - nice display. But how do I interpret the info it provides? Or to put it another way, if I'm being hacked, what should I expect to see? Just by watching the traffic and ports you should be able to discern what is going on. With the system at a standstill, set the logging options - and watch - for a while - if you've only got email being fetched and the likes, you'll be able to discern from the traffic - via the IP's and the interface they're operating on - just what is what... TCP ports 25 and 110 - mailport 80 is http...and etc... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Dear Sir, I am firmly opposed to the spread of microchips either to the home or to the office, We have more than enough of them foisted upon us in public places. They are a disgusting Americanism, and can only result in the farmers being forced to grow smaller potatoes, which in turn will cause massive un- employment in the already severely depressed agricultural industry. Yours faithfully, Capt. Quinton D'Arcy, J.P. Sevenoaks -- Letters To The Editor, The Times of London Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Damn newbie user!
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 9:04 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 12:02, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 08:15 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: The management part comes in when you get mobbed. ;) LX Lyvim: Good to hear that you survived Isabel. From what I could make out from the map in the News Disturber, she didn't miss you by much. -- cmg Three weeks ago the south-eastern coast of Australia was hit with winds that blasted us in excess of 140kph - causing damage and panic, loss of power and utilities, homes, a few lives - how come y'all don't hear a damn thing about that back in Yankland? Not a one person mentioned anything in the past three weeks about it...hmmm? Yet - the entire world has to know about a storm that hits the US...strange that is, don't ya reckon? Even stranger - I didn't see anything here, and most of the UK press is owned by an Ozzie Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Possibly OT - Returned Mail Messages of Unknown Origin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Graham, On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:06:45 +0100, Graham Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: [newbie] Possibly OT - Returned Mail Messages of Unknown Origin: Dick Gevers wrote: Same here today. A couple early in the morning, and another string in the afternoon, all accompanied by fake Microsoft Security updates, and all the pairs had similar `return path` and/or `from` and/or `to`. These aren't what I'm concerned about (although I have been getting them - those are almost certainly virii). What I've been getting are delivery failure messages I should`ve been more clear: one half of each pair I got yesterday was also a delivery failure message. But they were bogus ones. At first glance they were from some automated ISP programme but upon closer investigation revealed many discrepancies. Also they always had lots in common with the bogus Microsoft security updates which were sent at approx. the same time. with no attachments which make me wonder if I'm being used as a conduit for someone else's junk mail program and that these return mail messages are a result of junk mails sent to email addresses that are no longer in existence. Having said that, my firewall seems to be secure so far as I can tell. Stephen suggested that I should have a look at my postfix setup but I don't use a mailserver as my mail goes to and from my ISP via Mozilla without any intermediary. Same here ISP Sylpheed, so it`s as good as impossible if your firewall is okay and your ports are closed when not needed. You did, of course, look at the message source to check for attachments ? (I don`t know how well Mozilla can hide them, I never used Mozilla mail). As regards the suggestions for a vigilante organisation, I understand that most of the big time spammers are based in Florida. I suggest we start drawing up invasion plans :-) Okay, just give me some coordinates. There`s a co-worker vacationing there now. I could point her in the right direction (she`s very ugly and as strong as a horse). g Ciao, =Dick Gevers= -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/bWv4wC/zk+cxEdMRAqibAJ44r9/cE3ApYkLPio6USmthi1kJNgCg4Ohs 6hyjkCH2AR8Oo9bMWv8sAUQ= =Mvjr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Damn newbie user!
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 18:48, Anne Wilson wrote: Even stranger - I didn't see anything here, and most of the UK press is owned by an Ozzie Anne Mostly cuz Aussies don't whinge too much about anything. We don't freak out when the blowies come...just sit tight and take it. Ditto with the next day - we just get on with it and take it in stride instead of panicking about it and making a big toodoo. Ah well, onward through the fog... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- All extremists should be taken out and shot. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 8:04 am, Thomas Williams wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:00:33 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... First of all, the companies that constitute the Trusted Computing Group include many of the heavyweights of the personal computer industry -- Microsoft, IBM, Hewlett-Packard, Sony, Nokia and Intel, among others -- all of which are interested in protecting their interests, not yours. Most important, they propose to do this by advocating legislation that would require every computer sold to have a Trusted Platform Module. ... Of course you realize what this really means? Should this get implemented, everyone here in the US will start going over the border to get their computers and/or only run Linux on it. grin Even more worrying is that it would effectively outlaw Linux. There is no way to ensure a Linux system runs the platform or runs it securely. I don't see that bothering the TCG much. I haven't read the spec., but I would expect that any TCmodule could be remotely detected by those it is supposed to work with, ie govenment and big corporations. If they scan you and you aren't running it you can expect a visit from the police. I apologize to all of those who are not in the US for this, but I wouldn't doubt but what if this does happen here that sooner or later it will start happening elsewhere. Be aware! If it does happen in the USA they will try to make damn sure it happens elsewhere. Nobody is going to buy computers off them if they don't have to. Enter trade sanctions etc. etc., all with a high moral stance that politicians will love. -- Richard Urwin All that is required for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:04:11 -0400 Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Of course you realize what this really means? Should this get implemented, everyone here in the US will start going over the border to get their computers and/or only run Linux on it. grin The SNAFU Principle: SNAFU principle /sna'foo prin'si-pl/ /n./ [from a WWII Army acronym for `Situation Normal, All Fucked Up'] True communication is possible only between equals, because inferiors are more consistently rewarded for telling their superiors pleasant lies than for telling the truth. -- a central tenet of Discordianism, often invoked by hackers to explain why authoritarian hierarchies screw up so reliably and systematically. The effect of the SNAFU principle is a progressive disconnection of decision-makers from reality. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Having the fewest wants, I am nearest to the gods. -- Socrates Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Damn newbie user!
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:04:25 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Yet - the entire world has to know about a storm that hits the US...strange that is, don't ya reckon? ya, I reckon. but not so strange when you take into account the... uh, I don't want to get started on that again... ;-) -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Life may have no meaning, or, even worse, it may have a meaning of which you disapprove. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hdd speed problem
On Saturday 20 Sep 2003 8:16 am, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I am having still problem with hdd speed. SNIP /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.37 seconds =345.95 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 4.17 seconds = 15.35 MB/sec [EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# hdparm -i /dev/hda /dev/hda: Model=ST320413A, FwRev=3.39, SerialNo=6ED1JBLC SNIP PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled Drive conforms to: device does not report version: 1 2 3 4 I have following lines in dmesg. blk: queue c03cb420, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x) ide0: Speed warnings UDMA 3/4/5 is not functional. blk: queue c03cb55c, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x) ide0: Speed warnings UDMA 3/4/5 is not functional. inserting floppy driver for 2.4.21-0.13mdk It is shown as 100ATA in bios while booting. hdparm -X 69 /dev/hda also doesn't help. What to do? At first I thought your problem would perhaps be because you were using the 40 conductor cable instead of the 80 conductor. But a quick Google/linux on 'ide0: Speed warnings' reveals a lot of people having similar problems to you. The issue seems to revolve around chip sets and the kernel. One person reported being able to get full disc speed despite the error message using hdparm -c1d1X69 It might be worth asking on MandrakeExpert (Yes, I know they can be slow replying, but that is where Civileme devotes his time now) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 8:49 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Yank, man pages are great once you have a bit of experience under the belt. For a true newbie, many ar totally inpenetrable. Agreed, but I'm not a newbie and IME, man pages are almost useless for how do I do x. apropos doesn't work because the man pages call it y. If someone tells me use the abc command then I can use man to find out how it works. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Damn newbie user!
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 18:10, Sharrea Day wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:04, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Three weeks ago the south-eastern coast of Australia was hit with winds that blasted us in excess of 140kph - causing damage and panic, loss of power and utilities, homes, a few lives - how come y'all don't hear a damn thing about that back in Yankland? Not a one person mentioned anything in the past three weeks about it...hmmm? Yet - the entire world has to know about a storm that hits the US...strange that is, don't ya reckon? Yeah... an' the South Island, NZ got hit with 170kph winds just a few days ago an' notawordaboutit??? Sharrea We heard about it - then again, y'all purty much a state here anyways... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Many have seen Topaxci, God of the Red Mushroom, and they earn the name of shaman, he said. Some have seen Skelde, spirit of the smoke, and they are called sorcerers. A few have been privileged to see Umcherrel, the soul of the forest, and they are known as spirit masters. But none have seen a box with hundreds of legs that looked at them without eyes, and they are known as idio-- The interruption was caused by a sudden screaming noise and a flurry of snow and sparks that blew the fire across the dark hut; there was a brief blurred vision and then the opposite wall was blasted aside and the apparition vanished. There was a long silence. Then a slightly shorter silence. Then the old shaman said carefully, You didn't just see two men go through upside down on a broomstick, shouting and screaming at each other, did you? The boy looked at him levelly. Certainly not, he said. The old man heaved a sigh of relief. Thank goodness for that, he said. Neither did I. -- Terry Pratchett, The Light Fantastic Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 09:07, Dale Huckeby wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, John Richard Smith wrote: Dale Huckeby wrote: I created a 600dpi scanned A4 colour page .jpg file of 3.4Mb, in gimp, which took just over 3 minutes to print from the moment the page loaded to final ejection from the Lexmark Z53 printer. That's a lot of numbercrunchingbut sets a big task to compare performances with. How long would your Epson C82 take to process the same size and type of file? Sorry, don't know what an A4 color page is, nor how to create one. If you'll tell me how to make one in gimp I'll do it but I don't know how meaningful the print comparison will be. I don't use kde so will probably be printing from the command line. (Anything that's not being printed from OOo, Opera, or Pine.) Dale A4 is what the rest of the world uses when measuring paper size, 'letter' is approx the same dimensions. A5 is half as big, A3 double, etc. Paul M Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:45:29 +0100 Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Even more worrying is that it would effectively outlaw Linux. Exactement, and in doing so, would drive us underground, fulfilling the principle I noted, and effectively disarm the powers-that-be utterly. Look what the community did to Verisign, over a relatively trivial issue (relative to this TCI crap anyway). Imagine... -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Reality is just a crutch for people who can't handle science fiction. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 23:07, Dale Huckeby wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, John Richard Smith wrote: Dale Huckeby wrote: . . . The time each takes to print one of a sample page, from the time I press the Okay button till the copy slides out, is 18 seconds for Economy Grayscale, 23 seconds for Economy, 28 seconds for Normal Grayscale, 62 seconds for Normal, about a minute and a half for High Quality Grayscale, and about 4 minutes for High Quality. Normal and High Quality probably aren't distinguishable by the casual viewer, but held side by side Normal is slightly thicker and muddier looking. Under a magnifying glass the edges would be fuzzier. High Quality has a slighter thinner, harder, sharp-edged printshop look. High Quality Grayscale is just a little lighter. Normal Grayscale is actually hard to tell from High Quality, so I might switch to that as my default. I didn't test Very High Quality or Photo or their grayscales. By the way, the times above are for the first page, which includes the time it takes for the program to communicate with the printer. I just ran page 1 and 2 at Normal Grayscale and the first page was out at 28 seconds and the second at 51, so all subsequent pages should take about 23 seconds apiece. OK so that sounds interesting. Now the time taken to create the print file and send it complete to the printer is always going to be longer in linux with ghostscript employed than in windblows, that cannot be helped, the PCL5 to PCL3 conversion takes time, and in any case each individual computer is going to vary the time according to it's power to process etc. So how about taking a 600dpi scanned file in either .pnm or .jpg of an A4 colour page(it can be anything) then send that file to printer at say 600dpi High quality, and note the time from when the file first arrives at the spooling window (kde - peripherals - printer - jobs) and you start to hear the printer load the sheet of paper to completion of the printed page. I created a 600dpi scanned A4 colour page .jpg file of 3.4Mb, in gimp, which took just over 3 minutes to print from the moment the page loaded to final ejection from the Lexmark Z53 printer. That's a lot of numbercrunchingbut sets a big task to compare performances with. How long would your Epson C82 take to process the same size and type of file? Sorry, don't know what an A4 color page is, nor how to create one. If you'll tell me how to make one in gimp I'll do it but I don't know how meaningful the print comparison will be. I don't use kde so will probably be printing from the command line. (Anything that's not being printed from OOo, Opera, or Pine.) Dale A4 is a little smaller than letter size. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] DOWNLOAD: Solaris 10 x86 is back!
For those that are sick, twisted, geeky beyond Wesley Crusher standards, the Sun Solaris x86 version 10 OS is back to be downloaded (and supported if you really really want it)...just FYI... http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/solaris-express/sol_index.html Yeehaw! stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Your love life will be... interesting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: problem installing mplayer
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 21:20:22 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my defense, I did notice the one that was going to be set on this message and killed it. Believe it or not it was worse. If you are using a script with fortune to do your sig you might consider doing it as fortune -a -s which flags it to use shorter 'clean' quotes Charles -- DYSLEXICS OF THE WORLD, UNTIE! - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-10mdk-i686-up-4GB http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 10:34 am, Aron Smith wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 23:07, Dale Huckeby wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, John Richard Smith wrote: Dale Huckeby wrote: . . . The time each takes to print one of a sample page, from the time I press the Okay button till the copy slides out, is 18 seconds for Economy Grayscale, 23 seconds for Economy, 28 seconds for Normal Grayscale, 62 seconds for Normal, about a minute and a half for High Quality Grayscale, and about 4 minutes for High Quality. Normal and High Quality probably aren't distinguishable by the casual viewer, but held side by side Normal is slightly thicker and muddier looking. Under a magnifying glass the edges would be fuzzier. High Quality has a slighter thinner, harder, sharp-edged printshop look. High Quality Grayscale is just a little lighter. Normal Grayscale is actually hard to tell from High Quality, so I might switch to that as my default. I didn't test Very High Quality or Photo or their grayscales. By the way, the times above are for the first page, which includes the time it takes for the program to communicate with the printer. I just ran page 1 and 2 at Normal Grayscale and the first page was out at 28 seconds and the second at 51, so all subsequent pages should take about 23 seconds apiece. OK so that sounds interesting. Now the time taken to create the print file and send it complete to the printer is always going to be longer in linux with ghostscript employed than in windblows, that cannot be helped, the PCL5 to PCL3 conversion takes time, and in any case each individual computer is going to vary the time according to it's power to process etc. So how about taking a 600dpi scanned file in either .pnm or .jpg of an A4 colour page(it can be anything) then send that file to printer at say 600dpi High quality, and note the time from when the file first arrives at the spooling window (kde - peripherals - printer - jobs) and you start to hear the printer load the sheet of paper to completion of the printed page. I created a 600dpi scanned A4 colour page .jpg file of 3.4Mb, in gimp, which took just over 3 minutes to print from the moment the page loaded to final ejection from the Lexmark Z53 printer. That's a lot of numbercrunchingbut sets a big task to compare performances with. How long would your Epson C82 take to process the same size and type of file? Sorry, don't know what an A4 color page is, nor how to create one. If you'll tell me how to make one in gimp I'll do it but I don't know how meaningful the print comparison will be. I don't use kde so will probably be printing from the command line. (Anything that's not being printed from OOo, Opera, or Pine.) Dale A4 is a little smaller than letter size. A4 is around 1/4 narrower, but around 3/4 longer Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] agpgart error
I get hardware error while booting process. checking for new hardware failed Can it be due to this? This is from /var/log/messages. Sep 21 08:16:42 lvghomepc kernel: 0: nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 nvidia.o Kernel Module 1.0-4496 Wed Jul 16 19:03:09 PDT 2003 Sep 21 08:16:44 lvghomepc insmod: /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdk/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o.gz: init_module: No such device Sep 21 08:16:44 lvghomepc insmod: Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg Sep 21 08:16:44 lvghomepc kernel: Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann Sep 21 08:16:44 lvghomepc kernel: agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 203M Sep 21 08:16:44 lvghomepc modprobe: modprobe: insmod agpgart failed Sep 21 08:16:44 lvghomepc kernel: 0: NVRM: AGPGART: unable to retrieve symbol table But I get good gui. what are the functions of agpgart? -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Scanning Images [SOLVED]
On Sun, 2003-09-14 at 15:20, ed tharp wrote: On Sun, 2003-09-14 at 12:04, John Richard Smith wrote: ed tharp wrote: you know you 'can' scan from within gimp... if you have all the packages installed if you have the xsane-gimp and xsane installed it should anyway. That is quite true, you can scan withing gimp , but right now the problem is to get sane to scan correctly at all. The original messagee complained about the quality of the result. I wanted to make sure sane is installed( behind the programme he is using is almost certainly sane backends) properly and set up for his make model of scanner. John yep, think the quality problem is most likely rooted in the size he is scanning the image to, then reducing it and then saving it in some other format, every step degrading some,,, but 600dpi 'ought to be' a big enough file to start with. Thanks for your input. I have found a way to print scanned images at the correct size. I scan the image at 600 dpi and open it in GIMP. It the print dialog there is an option to scale the image. I use that to scale it to the same dimensions as indicated in Xsane. I used the following settings: - scale by : percent - units : cm Just set the scale to the required width and height and print. I have my printer configured in different ways. I use my 'photoprint' option where I also print with a resolution of 600 dpi. Marco -- Tell me about these oppressed masses. What's got them so worked up ? They're upset, sir, because they are so poor that they are forced to have children merely to provide a cheap alternative to turkey at Christmas. Registered Linux user #268279 * This message is composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Removing lilo
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 07:50, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:17:01 -0400 yankl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from man lilo snip - u [device-name] Uninstall lilo by copying the saved boot sector back. The '-s' and '-C' switches may be used with this option. The device-name is optional. A time-stamp is checked. /snip so from command line do #lilo -u A caveat to this is that a New saved copy of the bootsector is made each time lilo is run so lilo -u may not necessarily restore the Win bootloader. Charles -- When I was crossing the border into Canada, they asked if I had any firearms with me. I said, Well, what do you need? -- Steven Wright - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-10mdk-i686-up-4GB http://www.eslrahc.com - Yeah, lilo -u didn't work. After doing it, the machine wouldn't boot at all. I put my 9.1 cd in and went into rescue, thinking I'd re-install Lilo, then I noticed an option for Restore windows bootloader or something like that. I thought it would just overwrite the MBR with the same /boot/0300 file that lilo -u did, but I decided to give it a try anyway. It worked like a charm. Scott Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] partitioning for Mandrake 9.1
Hi Derek, Sunday, September 21, 2003, 9:33:47 PM, you wrote: trimmed DJ You have masses of space for your Linux partitions. It does not DJ really matter how you partition it up. Just make sure you have a DJ separate /home partition. That is where your user data goes. So DJ if you ever reinstall you can preserve it. The Mandrake installer DJ will suggest partiton sizes for you. You might as well just stick DJ with that. I do have masses of space (I didn't even mention the scsi subsystem g), but a lot of it is currently spoken for. If I understand the install docs correctly, the Mandrake installer will only suggest partition sizes if I let it take over the whole drive. Is that correct? If so, I'll need to define my partition sizes myself, 'cause I can't just let 'er rip and overwrite. DJ The default file system is Ext3 other choices are Reiserfs, XFS, DJ and JFS, but to be honest as a newbie you will not notice the DJ difference between any of them so leave as default. I guess the question I should have asked there is, Are any of these file systems better in terms of reliability -- as regards data integrity? The one that has the least chance of data corruption is the one I want to use. That might mean an older, more stable or more tested file system, even if it's a bit slower. I know pretty close to zero about the differences right now. DJ The default Linux kernel will not address 1GB of RAM you will DJ only use 700 odd MB. There is an 'Enterprise' kernel on the CD DJ which will address the 1GB, but the extra instructions needed to DJ use the high memory actually makes it run slower than the DJ standard kernel. So I would not worry about it. Linux will run DJ much faster than Windows even with less memory. Fair enough. Swap partition size? (out of the ~35 GB) DJ It is actually quite safe to let Linux overwrite your MBR You DJ would get a nice graphical screen to select which OS you want to DJ run. Most of us here do that. But if you would rather boot from DJ floppy thats your choice. It all works ;-) The key for me would be the ease or difficulty of getting the MBR back to its original state if I decide to flee back into the smothering embrace of Redmond. g Seriously though, I just need to make very sure I can get into XP when I need to. Until such time as I might decide to make a complete migration, I'd have real need to get into XP on demand. DJ Have fun. Thanks. One more question comes to mind. I'm on 100 MB/second glass, and my wife and I share the connection through a router. The install routine will figure out how to get me connected? Thanks again. Lance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Problems formatting cp mount on a floppy
Hi, Sometime ago a member had some problems with formatting - msdos - ext2 - mounting and copying files on a floppy. After some tests the following... IF you will use the floppy only on LINUX then there is a advantage using EXT2 over msdos - LONG file names is available. Try the following..if using mdk9.1.. Put floppy in drive #su #umount /mnt/floppy (to make sure it is not mounted) #mke2fs /dev/fd0 #mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy IF all OK then.. #ls /mnt/floppy lost+found directory should show. #cp xxx??? /mnt/floppy/ (??? - your files) #ls /mnt/floppy Your files should show. IF all OK then.. #umount /mnt/floppy - this will force linux to write buffers to disk (IMPORTEND). **If still problem then try GUI like this... I also had problems with fdformat to make msdos - it refused to mount. On the following it worked every time. Mdk9.1 #su #umount /mnt/floppy (to make sure it is not mounted) start - Configurations - Hardware KFloppy (this one is like format in windows - can do DOS or EXT2 - I like it - it worked every time on both OS formats). Mount and the rest as above. Enjoy Johan May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Make a GRUB boot floppy
Hi, Sometime ago a member wanted to know how to make a GRUB boot floppy. This is what I do on MDK9.1 and it works every time - and of course I use GRUB as my bootloader on floppy and HD. #su Put floppy in drive #umount /mnt/floppy (just be sure not mounted) #mke2fs /dev/fd0 #mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy #mkdir /mnt/floppy/boot #mkdir /mnt/floppy/boot/grub #cp /boot/grub/stage1 /mnt/floppy/boot/grub #cp /boot/grub/stage2 /mnt/floppy/boot/grub #grub #grubroot (fd0) #grubsetup (fd0) #grubquit #cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /mnt/floppy/boot/grub Now this floppy will be the same as your HD boot. #umount /mnt/floppy (IMPORTEND) Leave floppy in drive Restart PC Voilla - Same as hd Enjoy Johan May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] partitioning for Mandrake 9.1
Derek Jennings wrote: On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 12:43 pm, Lance Cummings wrote: I am going to give Mandrake 9.1 a look, coming from the MS world. Until I get real comfortable with the idea the Linux can work for me, XP will remain the primary OS on the box, so we start by needing to work around that a little bit. I have about 35 GB at the back of a 160 GB Seagate ATA100 that I'm going to use to see how this goes. The space is an extended partition right now; there are already three primaries in front of it. My plan would be to put the entire works in logical drives inside the extended, with a boot floppy for starting Linux. (I'd like to keep the loader off the MBR for now, since I have critical stuff on the MS primaries, and I really hesitate to put anything between me and a straight XP boot, at least until I'm very sure that it won't interfere with me getting into Windows when I need to. Maybe somebody can convince me otherwise; I'm a pretty reasonable guy.) ^_^ I'd like suggestions on how to partition this 35 gig space for the Linux file system, and which particular file system to use. I have a gigabyte of RAM, and until I become very convinced that I want to make this migration, I would not be using the Linux side for anything extremely intensive (no video editing, for example). Appreciate any and all input in advance. Lance Well done on deciding to give Linux a try. I hope like me you will find it is *way* better than Windows. There is a steep learning curve though so do not be surprised to find 'we do do things differently' You have masses of space for your Linux partitions. It does not really matter how you partition it up. Just make sure you have a separate /home partition. That is where your user data goes. So if you ever reinstall you can preserve it. The Mandrake installer will suggest partiton sizes for you. You might as well just stick with that. If you want to share data with Windows be aware that although Linux can read an NTFS partition it cannot (yet) write to one reliably. So you might want a FAT32 partition for common data. The default file system is Ext3 other choices are Reiserfs, XFS, and JFS, but to be honest as a newbie you will not notice the difference between any of them so leave as default. The default Linux kernel will not address 1GB of RAM you will only use 700 odd MB. There is an 'Enterprise' kernel on the CD which will address the 1GB, but the extra instructions needed to use the high memory actually makes it run slower than the standard kernel. So I would not worry about it. Linux will run much faster than Windows even with less memory. It is actually quite safe to let Linux overwrite your MBR You would get a nice graphical screen to select which OS you want to run. Most of us here do that. But if you would rather boot from floppy thats your choice. It all works ;-) Have fun. When you install you will notice you do not have to fiddle around for driver CDs. You do not have to reboot all the time, and you will end up with a system with Hundreds of great apps instead of just minesweeper and solitaire. After you are installed. You do not need to defrag discs. You do not need anti virus protection, you will not get pop ups in your browsers, and the OS will not crash. Whats not to like? :-) derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I must wholeheartedly agree with Derek.;-) I have dual and triple booted all versions of windows including xp with linux without any problems, and I always use the linux boot loader. ( it is easier and faster than a floppy too ) I use Mandrake 9.1 in a production environment at work everyday ( an information management firm where everything is critical ) and run excel and word 2000 everyday IN LINUX!!! . I used to boot into the windows partition at work occasionally, ( win 2000 pro on an nt network ) but I found it much faster and more stable to just stay in Linux. I setup the work box to run a fat32 partition and can share files freely. I log on to the windows network and even store some of my files on our windows server. I only keep the windows partition now for the IT guy. fear of the unknown isn't unusual, however though unknown to you, what you want to do is not unknown by any means. its' safe and well worth the effort. -- Mike McNeese Springdale, Arkansas USA == Dual booting 98lite;MDK 9.1 stock kernel Kde 3.1 Registered Linux User #248955 liquid/acqua Theme == If obstacles are what you see in your path... Then you have lost sight of your goal! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Damn newbie user!
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 04:10, Sharrea Day wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:04, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Three weeks ago the south-eastern coast of Australia was hit with winds that blasted us in excess of 140kph - causing damage and panic, loss of power and utilities, homes, a few lives - how come y'all don't hear a damn thing about that back in Yankland? Not a one person mentioned anything in the past three weeks about it...hmmm? Yet - the entire world has to know about a storm that hits the US...strange that is, don't ya reckon? Yeah... an' the South Island, NZ got hit with 170kph winds just a few days ago an' notawordaboutit??? Sharrea We (I, at least) had heard of the 'superphoon' they were calling it, but you are so right that it was blasted off the headlines by a tropical storm heading right to DC. but they were both some record storms a week before. they said the eyewall wind speed of Isabel was the highest they had ever measured from a hurricane hunter plane, and the same night they were also mentioning the 'superphoon', but I thought it was much north of you all,,, last I heard. -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 05:47, HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:04:11 -0400 Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Of course you realize what this really means? Should this get implemented, everyone here in the US will start going over the border to get their computers and/or only run Linux on it. grin The SNAFU Principle: SNAFU principle /sna'foo prin'si-pl/ /n./ [from a WWII Army acronym for `Situation Normal, All Fucked Up'] True communication is possible only between equals, because inferiors are more consistently rewarded for telling their superiors pleasant lies than for telling the truth. -- a central tenet of Discordianism, often invoked by hackers to explain why authoritarian hierarchies screw up so reliably and systematically. The effect of the SNAFU principle is a progressive disconnection of decision-makers from reality. For those of you in the Bible belt... `Situation Normal, All Fouled Up'... -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 05:47, HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:04:11 -0400 Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Of course you realize what this really means? Should this get implemented, everyone here in the US will start going over the border to get their computers and/or only run Linux on it. grin The SNAFU Principle: SNAFU principle /sna'foo prin'si-pl/ /n./ [from a WWII Army acronym for `Situation Normal, All Fucked Up'] True communication is possible only between equals, because inferiors are more consistently rewarded for telling their superiors pleasant lies than for telling the truth. -- a central tenet of Discordianism, often invoked by hackers to explain why authoritarian hierarchies screw up so reliably and systematically. The effect of the SNAFU principle is a progressive disconnection of decision-makers from reality. I think this would have been a good inclusion to the thread that asked about including the RFC to the twiki... the reason RFCs are so damn polite is exactly this,,, ARPA, DARPA, are still DOD... -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] partitioning for Mandrake 9.1
On Sunday 21 September 2003 06:43 am, Lance Cummings wrote: I am going to give Mandrake 9.1 a look, coming from the MS world. Until I get real comfortable with the idea the Linux can work for me, XP will remain the primary OS on the box, so we start by needing to work around that a little bit. I have about 35 GB at the back of a 160 GB Seagate ATA100 that I'm going to use to see how this goes. The space is an extended partition right now; there are already three primaries in front of it. My plan would be to put the entire works in logical drives inside the extended, with a boot floppy for starting Linux. (I'd like to keep the loader off the MBR for now, since I have critical stuff on the MS primaries, and I really hesitate to put anything between me and a straight XP boot, at least until I'm very sure that it won't interfere with me getting into Windows when I need to. Maybe somebody can convince me otherwise; I'm a pretty reasonable guy.) ^_^ I'd like suggestions on how to partition this 35 gig space for the Linux file system, and which particular file system to use. I have a gigabyte of RAM, and until I become very convinced that I want to make this migration, I would not be using the Linux side for anything extremely intensive (no video editing, for example). Appreciate any and all input in advance. Lance I don't think that I would worry about the MBR and for that matter I don't think I would worry about the partitioning. During the installation there is a warning that says to back up any important data and maybe it is good advice but I have done dual boot installations on somewhere between 30 and 40 machines and have never lost a single byte of data from windows or had a problem with the MBR, and I am no where close to being any kind of expert. All I have ever done is insert disk 1 and use almost all of the defalt settings and the MBR has always been rewritten flawlessly and never a bit of trouble booting into linux or windoze afterward. If when you get to the partitioning part to the installation you choose custom disk partitioning then click on your 35GB partision and next click on auto allocate you should be good to go. The 35 GB space should automatically be divided into 3 partisions of roughly the correct size then click on done and follow the defalts for the rest of the installation you should be good to go. This has been my recipe for success every time. Never not even 1 time have I had a seconds trouble with the way the partitions were created or had a seconds trouble with the MBR, about all I have ever had to do is configure stuff like modems and sound after the installation was finished. Mandrake has really made it a nobrainer to get it right first time every time or else I have just been darn lucky.. You may want to have a look at the installation tutorials at www.mandrake.com It really is as easy as they make it look. This is just my personal experance YMMV. Marc KM5KW Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 06:19:55 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:45:29 +0100 Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Even more worrying is that it would effectively outlaw Linux. Exactement, and in doing so, would drive us underground, fulfilling the principle I noted, and effectively disarm the powers-that-be utterly. Look what the community did to Verisign, over a relatively trivial issue (relative to this TCI crap anyway). Imagine... -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org Neat idea! Jail linux users. Look Mom, I'm an inmate! Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] partitioning for Mandrake 9.1
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 10:03, Marc wrote: On Sunday 21 September 2003 06:43 am, Lance Cummings wrote: I am going to give Mandrake 9.1 a look, coming from the MS world. Until I get real comfortable with the idea the Linux can work for me, XP will remain the primary OS on the box, so we start by needing to work around that a little bit. Most of us understand being a little OS 'gun shy', but (as you will soon come to understand) that has to do with how poorly cobbled together M$ winblows really is, and as you come to understand that there really are other and better methods for things, you will so soon wonder why you thought that that way. just as someone that has had a 2 dollar pistol blow up in their hand may not want to hold a new Glock 9mm, after they fire it a few times, they are no where as worried about the Glock blowing a finger off. soon you too will consider WInblows a 2 dollar ripoff and real OSs to be closer to cruise missile. Just my $.02USD Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Possibly OT - Returned Mail Messages of Unknown Origin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:40:19 +1000, Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: [newbie] Possibly OT - Returned Mail Messages of Unknown Origin: There's a rule for that? Dang... Just when I was going to fire a round of banter at Femme...dang dang dang... Searchno RFC foundtwiking.nothing there.Anne?? (Hope she isn`t listening; or better yet, getting her bikini...). We have tropical temperatures this side o` the Channel, so BFN =Dick Gevers= -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/bbj2wC/zk+cxEdMRAm3NAJ9GrNCHpbu6xfpn2Ynm6cRVLrRbBACeITWy xNiyvgk8O9HJaQ8YxmfY9XM= =thXF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Damn newbie user!
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three weeks ago the south-eastern coast of Australia was hit with winds that blasted us in excess of 140kph - causing damage and panic, loss of power and utilities, homes, a few lives - how come y'all don't hear a damn thing about that back in Yankland? Not a one person mentioned anything in the past three weeks about it...hmmm? Yet - the entire world has to know about a storm that hits the US...strange that is, don't ya reckon? Why is that? Is that because of a lot of US owned newscasts? Why does the rest of the world care so much about a hurrican in the US? (or, i should say, why do the brodcast companies care so much?) My Indian friends are always amazed at how, when a few people die in the US from weather, it makes huge national news in the US. Natural disasters in India with anything short of 1000 deaths barely makes their local news... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] test
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[newbie] Re: partitioning for Mandrake 9.1
Lance Cummings wrote: Hi Derek, Sunday, September 21, 2003, 9:33:47 PM, you wrote: trimmed DJ You have masses of space for your Linux partitions. It does not DJ really matter how you partition it up. Just make sure you have a DJ separate /home partition. That is where your user data goes. So DJ if you ever reinstall you can preserve it. The Mandrake installer DJ will suggest partiton sizes for you. You might as well just stick DJ with that. I do have masses of space (I didn't even mention the scsi subsystem g), but a lot of it is currently spoken for. If I understand the install docs correctly, the Mandrake installer will only suggest partition sizes if I let it take over the whole drive. Is that correct? If so, I'll need to define my partition sizes myself, 'cause I can't just let 'er rip and overwrite. I think so, but I'm not sure. I'd use 'Expert mode' in setting the disk up. Expert is actually just more options in the dialogs. I'd proberbly set it up something like / ~ 4-6 GB /swap ~ 150 - 200 Mb (You've got lot's of RAM) /usr ~ 10 Gb /home ~ The rest ( ~ 20 Gb) When you get the taste for it, You can look at LVM, Logical Volume Groups, to assign more or less space to your partitions, but leave it until you've got used to the concept behind it. DJ The default file system is Ext3 other choices are Reiserfs, XFS, DJ and JFS, but to be honest as a newbie you will not notice the DJ difference between any of them so leave as default. I guess the question I should have asked there is, Are any of these file systems better in terms of reliability -- as regards data integrity? cut They are all good. I always use ReiserFS for all my partitions, but that's just a matter of taste. DJ It is actually quite safe to let Linux overwrite your MBR You DJ would get a nice graphical screen to select which OS you want to DJ run. Most of us here do that. But if you would rather boot from DJ floppy thats your choice. It all works ;-) I agree. The key for me would be the ease or difficulty of getting the MBR back to its original state if I decide to flee back into the smothering embrace of Redmond. g Seriously though, I just need to make very sure I can get into XP when I need to. Until such time as I might decide to make a complete migration, I'd have real need to get into XP on demand. DJ Have fun. You migth want to have a look at fdisk in XP. MS used to have a /MBR option to fdisk, to erase anything in the MBR, but I have not ever needed it. Thanks. One more question comes to mind. I'm on 100 MB/second glass, and my wife and I share the connection through a router. The install routine will figure out how to get me connected? Yes (I think) Thanks again. Lance /Björn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Removing lilo
On Saturday 20 September 2003 10:16 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 07:41 pm, Scott wrote: Hello I want to take a slave hard drive out of a box that I gave to my daughter and install it my box. The primary drive in her box has XP on it. How do I remove lilo from hda and turn booting back over to XP? Thanks, Scott Scott I believe that you would do fdisk /MBR from a dos console in Windex. Somebody slap me if I'm wrong. HTH Slap With Windows XP, the correct command would be to run fixmbr from the recovery console after booting from the WinXP disk. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 10:34 am, Aron Smith wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 23:07, Dale Huckeby wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, John Richard Smith wrote: snip So how about taking a 600dpi scanned file in either .pnm or .jpg of an A4 colour page(it can be anything) then send that file to printer at say 600dpi High quality, and note the time from when the file first arrives at the spooling window (kde - peripherals - printer - jobs) and you start to hear the printer load the sheet of paper to completion of the printed page. I created a 600dpi scanned A4 colour page .jpg file of 3.4Mb, in gimp, which took just over 3 minutes to print from the moment the page loaded to final ejection from the Lexmark Z53 printer. That's a lot of numbercrunchingbut sets a big task to compare performances with. How long would your Epson C82 take to process the same size and type of file? Sorry, don't know what an A4 color page is, nor how to create one. If you'll tell me how to make one in gimp I'll do it but I don't know how meaningful the print comparison will be. I don't use kde so will probably be printing from the command line. (Anything that's not being printed from OOo, Opera, or Pine.) A4 is a little smaller than letter size. A4 is around 1/4 narrower, but around 3/4 longer Thanks all. Guess it would have been clearer if I had said I don't know what a _color page_ is (still!), or how to create it at ANY given size (not just A4), or dpi resolution, or Mb size. In short, I'm a complete naif when it comes to using Gimp or any other graphics tool. Dale Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Possibly OT - Returned Mail Messages of Unknown Origin
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 3:43 pm, Dick Gevers wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:40:19 +1000, Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: [newbie] Possibly OT - Returned Mail Messages of Unknown Origin: There's a rule for that? Dang... Just when I was going to fire a round of banter at Femme...dang dang dang... Searchno RFC foundtwiking.nothing there.Anne?? (Hope she isn`t listening; or better yet, getting her bikini...). We have tropical temperatures this side o` the Channel, so BFN =Dick Gevers= Shucks - didn't I get to Rule 42? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] partitioning for Mandrake 9.1
Lance Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DJ You have masses of space for your Linux partitions. It does I do have masses of space (I didn't even mention the scsi subsystemg), but a lot of it is currently spoken for. If I understand the install docs correctly, the Mandrake installer will only suggest partition sizes if I let it take over the whole drive. Is that correct? If so, I'll need to define my partition sizes myself,'cause I can't just let 'er rip and overwrite. At the beginning of the install, you will have a choice of where to install Linux: You'll want to Use free space on the Windows partition or something like that. The installer will repartition to split off some of the windows partition. You'll need to defrag 1st, and maybe kill your swap file while defragging. Sometimes the swap file is at the end, and the defragger won't move it. Put the swap file backand reboot before doing the Mandrake install. You will want to leave some extra space for windows, so don't take the entire thing for linux. I did this on XP with no problems, but you'll really want to do a backup first just in case. If you are paranoid, you could get another hard drive and install linux there. 20GB should be plenty. I am happily using 10GB right now, but i may not download as much as others... eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] partitioning for Mandrake 9.1
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 07:23, ed tharp wrote: On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 10:03, Marc wrote: On Sunday 21 September 2003 06:43 am, Lance Cummings wrote: I am going to give Mandrake 9.1 a look, coming from the MS world. Until I get real comfortable with the idea the Linux can work for me, XP will remain the primary OS on the box, so we start by needing to work around that a little bit. Most of us understand being a little OS 'gun shy', but (as you will soon come to understand) that has to do with how poorly cobbled together M$ winblows really is, and as you come to understand that there really are other and better methods for things, you will so soon wonder why you thought that that way. just as someone that has had a 2 dollar pistol blow up in their hand may not want to hold a new Glock 9mm, after they fire it a few times, they are no where as worried about the Glock blowing a finger off. soon you too will consider WInblows a 2 dollar ripoff and real OSs to be closer to cruise missile. Just my $.02USD ** Thats how it happened with me after running Win$ux alongside Mandrake for about 6 mo I realized that I had not booted the Win$ux for about 3 mo so I erased it and gave the space to Mdk __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 06:00, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 21 September 2003 03:49 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Yank, man pages are great once you have a bit of experience under the belt. For a true newbie, many ar totally inpenetrable. Anne Exactly. What was it that somebody said once? Man pages should never be written by the people who wrote the software that a particular man page is talking about Or something like that grin ** The one thing that Programmers are NOT good at is Documentation. That's why Tech Writers exist (unfortunately the good ones find out that writing Science Fiction pays better :-( ). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Removing lilo
On Sunday 21 September 2003 10:01 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 10:16 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 07:41 pm, Scott wrote: Hello I want to take a slave hard drive out of a box that I gave to my daughter and install it my box. The primary drive in her box has XP on it. How do I remove lilo from hda and turn booting back over to XP? Thanks, Scott Scott I believe that you would do fdisk /MBR from a dos console in Windex. Somebody slap me if I'm wrong. HTH Slap With Windows XP, the correct command would be to run fixmbr from the recovery console after booting from the WinXP disk. Thank you, I needed that. Although I have never used XP before. : ) -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update to Cooker how-to?
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 19:35, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 03:56 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote: Anyone successfully running a box exclusively from Cooker sources? What is the command to update a machine to Cooker? Tom B. had a good script for this urpmi.update -a -f --wget urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm --auto-select -v . Use a good cooker mirror for source and it works like a champ. HTH I used this and it worked pretty well. However, it seemed to choke toward the end with some conflicts due to some texstar packages I had installed. Is there a way to force removing or overwriting these packages with those from the Cooker sources I'm now using? Thanks. -- Cheers, Trey --- The beauty of the soul shines out when a man bears with composure one heavy mischance after another, not because he does not feel them, but because he is a man of high and heroic temper. - Aristotle Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Possibly OT - Returned Mail Messages of Unknown Origin
On Sunday 21 September 2003 04:06 am, Graham Watkins wrote: These aren't what I'm concerned about (although I have been getting them - those are almost certainly virii). What I've been getting are delivery failure messages with no attachments which make me wonder if I'm being used as a conduit for someone else's junk mail program and that these return mail messages are a result of junk mails sent to email addresses that are no longer in existence. Bounces go to the stated From attached to the message. That can be forged so trivially that it is considered meaningless (rightfully so) by most admins. No point in trying to contact anyone, most of the knowledgeable people already disregarded that as soon as they got it. If they don't know enough to disregard it, they are probably too busy trying to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] to ever get around to contacting you. Having said that, my firewall seems to be secure so far as I can tell. Stephen suggested that I should have a look at my postfix setup but I don't use a mailserver as my mail goes to and from my ISP via Mozilla without any intermediary. If you are really concerned, download a package called, mailstats http://taz.net.au/postfix/mrtg/ and install it. It gives you a daily or weekly summary of your mail log including all messages received, delivered, bounced, sent, etc. If you check the traffic and it does not compare to what you know is going through your system, you can check the logs individually or simply close off all mail ports until you have determined where the vulnerability is. I suppose I could take Charlie's advice and filter them out but I'd still like to get to the bottom of what's going on. Who is sending these and why? You can attempt to trace the origin back by looking at the headers on the bounce but since most spammers use either open relays or an open proxy to bounce through, you will probably not be able to locate them. If it is a virus, you would track it down to a dummy, compromised machine which would do you even less good than finding an open proxy or relay run by a clueless admin. As regards the suggestions for a vigilante organisation, I understand that most of the big time spammers are based in Florida. I suggest we start drawing up invasion plans :-) I'm still completely mystified by this - if I'm not being hacked and there's no virus attached, then what on earth is the point of these things? If a virus, the bounce will probably not include the attachment but just the headers of the message. A lot of spammers will start a spam run but they have stupidly (because spammers are stupid) misconfigured their spamware and the payload either does not go out at all or goes out hopelessly misconfigured. I get spams all the time that have no message, no advertisement, nothing, just the headers and are proof that some newbie scummer is just getting started on his career and hasn't figgered out that appication yet. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xcdroast error
On Sunday 21 September 2003 04:45 am, Sharrea Day wrote: Because I copied and pasted the command into konsole I forgot to change the speed from 4x. Will try that on the next one. Getting somewhere now anyways... Thanks for your help Bryan. Try at the lowest speed 1x, and then see if it works better. Keep in mind, I only suggest this for audio cd's, never for any other kind. For some reason audio cd players are often simply fussier about things, but I suspect it has something to do with media, laser refraction and standards when the devices were built. I have links to a site somewhere where one of the engineers who created the cd specs goes into great detail about how lasers are used to burn data onto different chemical compounds that make up commercial cds, consumer cd recordables and consumer rewritables, all of which use different compounds and different refraction properties to hold data. Interesting but very dry, minute stuff. The long and short of it is, older cd players will have better luck with cd audio that is burned at slower speeds, less chance for the recorder to make minute errors in laying out the tracks or putting the exact amount of space expected to be between the tracks. The slower the burn, the more compatible the disc. On older cd players that have problems recognizing cd recordable media, it is often much better to use rewritable media. This is because the refraction properties of the laser material of rewritable media is actually closer to the properties of commercial cd media than is consumer recordable media. So, the laser read device in an older cd player has a better chance of picking up the data bits on a rewritable cd than on a recordable cd. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing
On Sunday 21 September 2003 05:45 am, Richard Urwin wrote: On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 8:04 am, Thomas Williams wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:00:33 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... First of all, the companies that constitute the Trusted Computing Group include many of the heavyweights of the personal computer industry -- Microsoft, IBM, Hewlett-Packard, Sony, Nokia and Intel, among others -- all of which are interested in protecting their interests, not yours. Most important, they propose to do this by advocating legislation that would require every computer sold to have a Trusted Platform Module. ... Of course you realize what this really means? Should this get implemented, everyone here in the US will start going over the border to get their computers and/or only run Linux on it. grin Actually, this is not really all that much of a concern. The way that it will be implemented, much like Palladium (which is the same thing) is that it will be integrated into the processor, it will be on/off enabled, and Linux will not be part of it (not that it needs to be, MS is effectively trying to make an unsecure architecture secure by building thicker doors, and the effort is doomed to failure). The result will be that people will still buy the same computers but you will have two choices, either you run Linux or another competing OS and turn the chip feature off, or you run MS and turn it on. Since MS has been trying from day one to make people make a firm choice between MS and others OS's and not let them have access to the benefits of both, it will simply force people to make the necessary choice. I expect it to be a boon for Linux. All the more so because those people who are willing to be put in a straight jacket to be safe will opt for that platform and leave free computing to those of us who are willing to expend the effort to do it right. Even more worrying is that it would effectively outlaw Linux. There is no way to ensure a Linux system runs the platform or runs it securely. I don't see that bothering the TCG much. Just means that Linux will have to run outside of it. Just like the V-Chip in TV's, you can force manufacturers to install them but you can not mandate that consumers use them. With China on the horizon to soon adopt Linux, I expect to see major market splits very soon. I haven't read the spec., but I would expect that any TCmodule could be remotely detected by those it is supposed to work with, ie govenment and big corporations. If they scan you and you aren't running it you can expect a visit from the police. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't out to get you, but you're still paranoid. Gee, I know all this big brother stuff is supposed to be in vogue but there are 260M people in the US. Even if they wanted to scan everyone's computer, they simply don't have the manpower or time. Hell, they can't even catch muslim terrorists and the subset of those guys are much lower than everybody. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Removing lilo
On Sunday 21 September 2003 11:25 am, Dennis Myers wrote: On Sunday 21 September 2003 10:01 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 10:16 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 07:41 pm, Scott wrote: Hello I want to take a slave hard drive out of a box that I gave to my daughter and install it my box. The primary drive in her box has XP on it. How do I remove lilo from hda and turn booting back over to XP? Thanks, Scott Scott I believe that you would do fdisk /MBR from a dos console in Windex. Somebody slap me if I'm wrong. HTH Slap With Windows XP, the correct command would be to run fixmbr from the recovery console after booting from the WinXP disk. Thank you, I needed that. Although I have never used XP before. : ) Okay, you make aspersions as to my lack of character from using XP in replay to the slap. I guess I had that one coming:-0 -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brant Fitzsimmons Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2003 2:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux! Ronald J. Hall wrote: Thought everyone might be interested in seeing this: http://www.business.scotsman.com/technology.cfm?id=1014442003 Nice. Poor MS. :-P FRANKI: God I love Ford, I have been a ford fan for many years, and this is another reason why who knows, one day the falcons might have an embeeded linux running the engine too.. that would be cool, being able to tell people my car runs linux. (though I plan to build my old laptop into my car running linux, so I will be able to say that soon anyway. :-) rgds Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 3:22 pm, Aron Smith wrote: ** The one thing that Programmers are NOT good at is Documentation. That's why Tech Writers exist (unfortunately the good ones find out that writing Science Fiction pays better :-( ). As a programmer: Documenting a program is a good and worthwhile activity; like going to the dentist. However documentation is like sex; when it's good it's wonderful, and when it's bad it's still better than nothing. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] iptraf
Probably a dumb newbie question here on iptraf. Nice app, question though since it has to be run as root from the CL, is it safe to have it running all the time? -- Regards Chris A 100% Microsoft free computer Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 12:03pm up 18:11, 5 users, load average: 2.03, 1.14, 0.46 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: problem installing mplayer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 21, 2003 05:45 am, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 21:20:22 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my defense, I did notice the one that was going to be set on this message and killed it. Believe it or not it was worse. If you are using a script with fortune to do your sig you might consider doing it as fortune -a -s which flags it to use shorter 'clean' quotes Charles Thanks Charles! It seems to think the one below is shorter and cleaner. G Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 11:02:55 up 1 day, 22 min, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.10, 0.07 FORTUNE REMEMBERS THE GREAT MOTHERS: #6 Johnny, if you fall and break your leg, don't come running to me! -- Mrs. Emily Barstow, June 16, 1954 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/bdpIG11CaRuZZSIRAoY5AJ4r42Zng2UCNvJg9F1KY6botBOpIQCfXVqp cahc9TpS+cNUMnTibBopMSA= =MJAE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] iptraf
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 6:05 pm, Chris wrote: Probably a dumb newbie question here on iptraf. Nice app, question though since it has to be run as root from the CL, is it safe to have it running all the time? Fairly safe if you do it right. If you make it owned by root and setuid root in a directory only root can write to, most of the problems go away. If it's owned by a normal user but run by root then it can be hacked by anything with the user's rights. If it's in a directory owned by a user it's trivial to copy it, hack it and overwrite the original. Kernel 2.6 will allow it to have just LAN access rights, but for that you'll have to wait until MDK 10. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer
- Original Message - From: Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stormjumper wrote: i presume u're using the Epson C82, since that was model referred to previously in this thread. you compared the speed of printout for windoze and linux, but how's the quality? is there a noticeable difference? also, which driver are you under linux? thanks The print quality is very good when initiated from either Windows or Linux. It's just faster under Windows. The printing speed between the two is about the same. It's the paper loading that is very fast when initiated by Windows. I would be *very* happy if I could get it to load that fast when initiated with Mozilla on Mandrake. I'm using the CUPS + GIMP-Print v4.2.5 driver. i'm on the lookout for a new printer, and from your experience, as well as others on the net, i'm leaning towards an Epson C82. thanks for the info, Brant. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] iptraf
On Sunday 21 September 2003 12:35 pm, Richard Urwin wrote: On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 6:05 pm, Chris wrote: Probably a dumb newbie question here on iptraf. Nice app, question though since it has to be run as root from the CL, is it safe to have it running all the time? Fairly safe if you do it right. If you make it owned by root and setuid root in a directory only root can write to, most of the problems go away. If it's owned by a normal user but run by root then it can be hacked by anything with the user's rights. If it's in a directory owned by a user it's trivial to copy it, hack it and overwrite the original. Kernel 2.6 will allow it to have just LAN access rights, but for that you'll have to wait until MDK 10. So, if its owned by root, in group root and only root has permisson to read/write/exe and others can only read/exe then I assume its safe. -- Regards Chris A 100% Microsoft free computer Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 12:48pm up 18:56, 6 users, load average: 0.11, 0.07, 0.09 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 4:05 pm, Dale Huckeby wrote: Thanks all. Guess it would have been clearer if I had said I don't know what a _color page_ is (still!), or how to create it at ANY given size (not just A4), or dpi resolution, or Mb size. In short, I'm a complete naif when it comes to using Gimp or any other graphics tool. I guess that you need a good size image with a high dpi in portrait shape. In Gimp, you right-click (for pretty well everything :-) ) File Print. On the print page you can adjust most settings, including output resolution. Near the bottom is the place to scale the image up to as nearly fill the page as possible. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update to Cooker how-to?
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 11:29, Trey Sizemore wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 19:35, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 03:56 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote: Anyone successfully running a box exclusively from Cooker sources? What is the command to update a machine to Cooker? Tom B. had a good script for this urpmi.update -a -f --wget urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm --auto-select -v . Use a good cooker mirror for source and it works like a champ. HTH I used this and it worked pretty well. However, it seemed to choke toward the end with some conflicts due to some texstar packages I had installed. Is there a way to force removing or overwriting these packages with those from the Cooker sources I'm now using? Thanks. The majority of the conflicting packages are KDE related from the texstar respository. Anyway to have urpmi automatically uninstall the conflicting packages instead of having to manually uninstall all of them? -- Cheers, Trey --- At a given moment I open my eyes and exist. And before that, during all eternity, what was there? Nothing. - Ugo Betti Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
Richard Urwin wrote: On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 3:22 pm, Aron Smith wrote: ** The one thing that Programmers are NOT good at is Documentation. That's why Tech Writers exist (unfortunately the good ones find out that writing Science Fiction pays better :-( ). As a programmer: Documenting a program is a good and worthwhile activity; like going to the dentist. However documentation is like sex; when it's good it's wonderful, and when it's bad it's still better than nothing. man pages are not meant to be a hand holding how-to document (though recently, some apps are using them as such). If you want to know how to use a command/app, read a how-to, do a google from a tutorial, don't read the man page. man pages are meant to refresh you memory about a command's function and it's options. -- David Filion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 7:37 pm, David Filion wrote: Richard Urwin wrote: On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 3:22 pm, Aron Smith wrote: ** The one thing that Programmers are NOT good at is Documentation. That's why Tech Writers exist (unfortunately the good ones find out that writing Science Fiction pays better :-( ). As a programmer: Documenting a program is a good and worthwhile activity; like going to the dentist. However documentation is like sex; when it's good it's wonderful, and when it's bad it's still better than nothing. man pages are not meant to be a hand holding how-to document (though recently, some apps are using them as such). If you want to know how to use a command/app, read a how-to, do a google from a tutorial, don't read the man page. man pages are meant to refresh you memory about a command's function and it's options. which is where they are great. So please, don't tell newbies that they are the first port of call. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update to Cooker how-to?
On Sunday 21 September 2003 01:40 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote: On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 11:29, Trey Sizemore wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 19:35, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 03:56 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote: Anyone successfully running a box exclusively from Cooker sources? What is the command to update a machine to Cooker? Tom B. had a good script for this urpmi.update -a -f --wget urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm --auto-select -v . Use a good cooker mirror for source and it works like a champ. HTH I used this and it worked pretty well. However, it seemed to choke toward the end with some conflicts due to some texstar packages I had installed. Is there a way to force removing or overwriting these packages with those from the Cooker sources I'm now using? Thanks. The majority of the conflicting packages are KDE related from the texstar respository. Anyway to have urpmi automatically uninstall the conflicting packages instead of having to manually uninstall all of them? Ya got me there, I don't think it is possible to do a group unless they are identified in such a way that you can call urpme kde.texstar.rpms* since I have not used texstar rpms for some time I can not tell you if they retain some identifier after install. Somebody jump in here who knows, we could use a little help here. Heck, I could use a little help everywhere. :- P -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 7:37 pm, David Filion wrote: Richard Urwin wrote: On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 3:22 pm, Aron Smith wrote: ** The one thing that Programmers are NOT good at is Documentation. That's why Tech Writers exist (unfortunately the good ones find out that writing Science Fiction pays better :-( ). As a programmer: Documenting a program is a good and worthwhile activity; like going to the dentist. However documentation is like sex; when it's good it's wonderful, and when it's bad it's still better than nothing. man pages are not meant to be a hand holding how-to document (though recently, some apps are using them as such). If you want to know how to use a command/app, read a how-to, do a google from a tutorial, don't read the man page. man pages are meant to refresh you memory about a command's function and it's options. which is where they are great. So please, don't tell newbies that they are the first port of call. Anne Amen to that. -- David Filion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
Hello Richard, Sunday, September 21, 2003, 3:03:45 AM, you wrote: RU On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 8:49 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Yank, man pages are great once you have a bit of experience under the belt. For a true newbie, many ar totally inpenetrable. RU Agreed, but I'm not a newbie and IME, man pages are almost useless RU for how do I do x. how do I do x? is probably the most common newbie question, yet is the one least likely to get answered by the available tools. RU apropos doesn't work because the man pages call it y. Yep - another part of the problem. M$ help suffers from the same problem, although their overall integration of help is a step in the right direction. Newbies can describe the question in 'natural language', which is unfortunately not the language used in the OS data base. The first OS that uses a thesaurus well will really be a winner. I'm hoping that will be Mandrake. How can we do that? -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 08:05, Dale Huckeby wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 10:34 am, Aron Smith wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 23:07, Dale Huckeby wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, John Richard Smith wrote: snip So how about taking a 600dpi scanned file in either .pnm or .jpg of an A4 colour page(it can be anything) then send that file to printer at say 600dpi High quality, and note the time from when the file first arrives at the spooling window (kde - peripherals - printer - jobs) and you start to hear the printer load the sheet of paper to completion of the printed page. I created a 600dpi scanned A4 colour page .jpg file of 3.4Mb, in gimp, which took just over 3 minutes to print from the moment the page loaded to final ejection from the Lexmark Z53 printer. That's a lot of numbercrunchingbut sets a big task to compare performances with. How long would your Epson C82 take to process the same size and type of file? Sorry, don't know what an A4 color page is, nor how to create one. If you'll tell me how to make one in gimp I'll do it but I don't know how meaningful the print comparison will be. I don't use kde so will probably be printing from the command line. (Anything that's not being printed from OOo, Opera, or Pine.) A4 is a little smaller than letter size. A4 is around 1/4 narrower, but around 3/4 longer Thanks all. Guess it would have been clearer if I had said I don't know what a _color page_ is (still!), or how to create it at ANY given size (not just A4), or dpi resolution, or Mb size. In short, I'm a complete naif when it comes to using Gimp or any other graphics tool. Dale run the Photo test page in MCC printer setup __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Damn newbie user!
Hello Eric, Sunday, September 21, 2003, 7:47:15 AM, you wrote: Yet - the entire world has to know about a storm that hits the US...strange that is, don't ya reckon? EH Why is that? Is that because of a lot of US owned newscasts? Why EH does the rest of the world care so much about a hurrican in the US? EH (or, i should say, why do the brodcast companies care so much?) The broadcast companies care only about sensational stories. A hurricane allows them to implement their disaster template to crank out another sensational news story. Part of the template is a description of how somebody died - the gorier the better (up to the limit of 'good broadcasting'). EH My Indian friends are always amazed at how, when a few people die in EH the US from weather, it makes huge national news in the US. EH Natural disasters in India with anything short of 1000 deaths barely EH makes their local news... It's just the disaster template. During the hurricane it is likely that more people were killed in traffic accidents, etc. It's not the deaths, it's the sensationalism. Any event that fits one of the templates will do - but most of them require that someone dies. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer
I'll share with you what I determined from recent research on printers that work well on Linux. Two manufacturers are very supportive of Linux drivers and opensource in general: Epson and HP. Epson printers tend to be very good picture quality, but the printhead is not replaceable. They like to be used frequently to keep them from clogging. HP printers replace the printhead with every cartridge, but they are more expensive. The print quality is very similar. The choice seems to boil down to: Get Epson if you print frequently. Get HP if you don't. That's my opinion of course. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Downloading skins
Why does my browser open a page and begin filling with code when I attempt to download a skin for xmms? -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. ~ Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Great Article on Trusted Computing
Hello Bryan, Sunday, September 21, 2003, 9:02:46 AM, you wrote: BP it will be on/off enabled, Only if this is forced by us. This is not the desires of those pushing the idea. BP The result will be that people will still buy the same computers BP but you will have two choices, either you run Linux or another BP competing OS and turn the chip feature off, One of the ideas is that this chip will control/oversee the boot - no chip, no boot. Also, another idea is to have chips in other hardware too, such as drives. So far, this has been beaten down, but it WILL rise again, this time better disguised. BP All the more so because those people who are willing to be put in BP a straight jacket to be safe will opt for that platform and leave BP free computing to those of us who are willing to expend the BP effort to do it right. It depends what you are trying to be safe FROM. :-) I'm more worried about what M$, RIAA, Govt, media cartel, etc will do than I am about viruses. BP Just means that Linux will have to run outside of it. May not work. The chip(s) may also be used for authentication as well. This is where the REAL control will come. Want to view/listen to legal media? Won't happen without the chip. You want to surf? Well - you'll have to use the chip to be authenticated for banking, buying, etc. Want email? You might have to be authenticated by the server to get your mail. And so on... Also, the temptation to require the chip for ALL surfing will be hard to resist. The chip could allow snooping that may be difficult to get around, and non-removable spyware. M$ wants to control the net. This will be a key to allowing that control. Authentication is a major upcoming issue, and the way we will be controlled if we're not careful. BP With China on the horizon to soon adopt Linux, I expect to see major market BP splits very soon. China may save us after all, since they will be making everything. :-) The question is still about authentication, though. BP Even if they wanted to scan everyone's computer, they simply BP don't have the manpower or time. Doesn't take manpower, just computing power, and we'll have lots of that. We already have companies building dossiers of most of the population. The govt likes this, since it doesn't take any of their $$ or effort, and often companies do it better. :-) BP Hell, they can't even catch muslim terrorists and the subset of those guys are BP much lower than everybody. It's not about catching terr's, it's about population control. The terr threat is just an excuse to scare people into saying OK. Whaddaya mean I'm paranoid? -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xcdroast error
Sharrea Day wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 00:28, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 01:39 am, Sharrea Day wrote: Well I'm real glad to hear I'm not the only one. I had 7 coasters and thought it had something to do with that error when trying to copy a music CD. So can someone please tell me if there is such a thing as DATA ONLY CDRs? Just thought perhaps that's the reason for the coasters...? You want to make sure that you are either using some good generic scsi drivers in the burning program or that you have correctly identified the drive type. Small differences can result in major problems. Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24, Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' How do I know if this is a good driver? I've included the output from one session as an attachment. Also, if you are trying to burn at max speed and get coasters, you may want to try specifying a reduced speed for burning. Most CD Burners try to read the available speed off the media but the media is not always accurate, I routinely get CD's that report a capable speed of 24x but end up coasters if I try to burn that fast, I have to drop it to 16x for those. I always specify the speed - 8x for CDR and 4x for CDRW. But after the first 2 coasters I used 4x for the CDR which obviously didn't help. They all have the same result of playing the first 3 songs fine, then from the 4th song onwards... nothing. Even tho all songs are correctly listed in xmms. Got so desperate that I tried Windows with winamp which played almost all of the 4th song then died. I gave my old HP9310 CD-Writer to a friend whose system couldn't take this new USB CD-Writer. Never had a problem with the old one but haven't used this new one all that much. If you are copying other CD's, keep in mind that Copy Protection can mess things up. If you are copying someone else's ISO, you may want to mount it as a loopback device and check the properties. I have had initial configuration difficulties with Xcdroast and K3B but have both working now without any problems or errors. Sorry, I wasn't very specific there. I didn't actually copy on-the-fly, I ripped the audio CD to hard drive and then burnt to CDR. Each song plays fine from the hard drive. I even deleted them and ripped again several times using various apps, all with the same result. Happy to help if you give me more details of your exact situation. I tried burning from the command line, xcdroast, k3b, and eroaster which is the program I use the most. I also tried burning as root user. Data (backups, etc) works fine with this burner on the same CDRs. However I burnt MDK 9.1 ISOs which wouldn't work from my old CD-ROM drive but worked in my newer CD-ROM drive on another system. I haven't tried burning a different audio CD yet but will give it a go today. Maybe its just that particular audio CD. Using MDK 9.1 with a BTC 5224UI External USB 2.0 CD-Writer (52x 24x 52x). Your help and advice is much appreciated as always. Sharrea $ cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=1,0,0 -pad -audio /home/sharrea/music/wav/*.wav Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 0 = CD-DA scsidev: '1,0,0' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 2 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'CDWRITER' Identifikation : 'IDE5224 ' Revision : '001H' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-2 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1951488 = 1905 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: audio 27 MB (02:45.09) no preemp Track 02: audio 32 MB (03:14.82) no preemp Track 03: audio 43 MB (04:17.42) no preemp Track 04: audio 29 MB (02:56.98) no preemp Track 05: audio 27 MB (02:45.73) no preemp Track 06: audio 37 MB (03:40.73) no preemp Track 07: audio 26 MB (02:38.80) no preemp Track 08: audio 25 MB (02:34.41) no preemp Track 09: audio 33 MB (03:22.08) no preemp Track 10: audio 33 MB (03:17.70) no preemp Track 11: audio 22 MB (02:14.26) no preemp Track 12: audio 30 MB (03:01.09) no preemp Track 13: audio 25 MB (02:29.25) no preemp Track 14: audio 22 MB (02:15.26) no preemp Track 15: audio 27 MB (02:43.73) no preemp Track 16: audio 27 MB (02:42.28) no preemp Track 17: audio 20 MB (02:04.29) no preemp Track 18: audio 26 MB (02:36.78) no preemp Track 19: audio 22 MB (02:10.86) no preemp Track 20: audio 29 MB (02:56.86) no preemp Total size: 579 MB (57:26.50) = 258488 sectors Lout start: 580 MB (57:28/38) = 258488 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 5 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:39:22 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:31:14 -0400 yankl [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: whack ROTFLMAO! Ok, back to reality, you just wasted 5 minutes of your life you will never get back... ;-) -- HaywireMac Agreed. Plus Man pages suck. They're often out of date, written by coders with bad grammar even lousier syntax. I hate man pages though I do use them when need arises. Other side of the coin yankl. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi --auto-select
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:20:49 -0400, Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The --update switch tells urpmi to update the system from the *update urpmi source only*. Examples: urpmi --updates --auto-select will update everything from the *updates* urpmi source. urpmi --auto-select will update the machine from *all* urpmi sources. Is it 'update', or 'updates'? I wonder if I did the wrong one because after I rebooted all hell broke loose. There were scary messages on boot. X loaded, but when I tried to log in, I was told /home didn't exist! (the message was something like 'you could try to use /root, but it won't work' ;). An upgrade still had problems, so I re-installed (it's handy to have /home is on a separate partition), reinstalled Sylpheed and everything is exactly as it was, bar a few things in /etc. If I got the update switch wrong, would updating from all sources completely fubar my setup like that? Richard -- Get up and turn I loose Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer
Dale Huckeby wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, John Richard Smith wrote: Dale Huckeby wrote: . . . The time each takes to print one of a sample page, from the time I press the Okay button till the copy slides out, is 18 seconds for Economy Grayscale, 23 seconds for Economy, 28 seconds for Normal Grayscale, 62 seconds for Normal, about a minute and a half for High Quality Grayscale, and about 4 minutes for High Quality. Normal and High Quality probably aren't distinguishable by the casual viewer, but held side by side Normal is slightly thicker and muddier looking. Under a magnifying glass the edges would be fuzzier. High Quality has a slighter thinner, harder, sharp-edged printshop look. High Quality Grayscale is just a little lighter. Normal Grayscale is actually hard to tell from High Quality, so I might switch to that as my default. I didn't test Very High Quality or Photo or their grayscales. By the way, the times above are for the first page, which includes the time it takes for the program to communicate with the printer. I just ran page 1 and 2 at Normal Grayscale and the first page was out at 28 seconds and the second at 51, so all subsequent pages should take about 23 seconds apiece. OK so that sounds interesting. Now the time taken to create the print file and send it complete to the printer is always going to be longer in linux with ghostscript employed than in windblows, that cannot be helped, the PCL5 to PCL3 conversion takes time, and in any case each individual computer is going to vary the time according to it's power to process etc. So how about taking a 600dpi scanned file in either .pnm or .jpg of an A4 colour page(it can be anything) then send that file to printer at say 600dpi High quality, and note the time from when the file first arrives at the spooling window (kde - peripherals - printer - jobs) and you start to hear the printer load the sheet of paper to completion of the printed page. I created a 600dpi scanned A4 colour page .jpg file of 3.4Mb, in gimp, which took just over 3 minutes to print from the moment the page loaded to final ejection from the Lexmark Z53 printer. That's a lot of numbercrunchingbut sets a big task to compare performances with. How long would your Epson C82 take to process the same size and type of file? Sorry, don't know what an A4 color page is, nor how to create one. If you'll tell me how to make one in gimp I'll do it but I don't know how meaningful the print comparison will be. I don't use kde so will probably be printing from the command line. (Anything that's not being printed from OOo, Opera, or Pine.) Dale A4 is the page size , similar but not exact to American letter You don't have a scanner then ? I just wanted to create a stand type size file to test that's all. It could be something else, but an A4 page size colour scan to 600 dpi is going to create a large .pnm file and converted to .jpg in gimp would make a nice standard test file to print off in any programme you like, it's the speed of the printer under a linux driver that I'm interested in .The length of time the printer takes to complete a large standard print job. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Sunday 21 September 2003 06:03 am, Richard Urwin wrote: On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 8:49 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Yank, man pages are great once you have a bit of experience under the belt. For a true newbie, many ar totally inpenetrable. Agreed, but I'm not a newbie and IME, man pages are almost useless for how do I do x. apropos doesn't work because the man pages call it y. If someone tells me use the abc command then I can use man to find out how it works. hence the end of my e-mail man -k. Have any one done their home work? What got me going is some one asking how to uninstall lilo. This is a case where you should go to lilo man page and see how it is done. By typing #man -k lilo one can see what command it relates too. Unless we like to have m$users we need to start using all tools provided by OS. Man is a grate tool too start fooling around with out fear of screwing up something. In my opinion the order of trying to solve something in the *nix should be as following: 1. HOWTO (tldp.org or build in) 2. man page 3. google.com 4. newbie list If one will not try to figure out staff by him/herself we will have to switch to m$ like OS where it is one way to do it and its full of holes because it is more important to make it ease then to make it safe. Sorry for an other runt but this is a subject I feel strong about. Give man a fish and he can eat a day; teach man how to fish and he can eat for life. = Tell man how to do it and he will do it; teach man how to resource and he will nether go back to m$. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Possibly OT - Returned Mail Messages of Unknown Origin
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 08:09, Heather/Femme wrote: a and I was so looking forward to it! FF ...and I just grew some tits...dang... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- -11. I don't know if this is ethical, but... --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 02:42, Frankie wrote: God I love Ford, I have been a ford fan for many years, and this is another reason why who knows, one day the falcons might have an embeeded linux running the engine too.. that would be cool, being able to tell people my car runs linux. (though I plan to build my old laptop into my car running linux, so I will be able to say that soon anyway. :-) rgds Franki You're a very sick man, Frankie. I've started selling In Home Self Lobotomy Kits - want me to send ya one? God knows Holden/Chevy is a Real Blokes vehicle... Chevorlet = Cracked Heads Every Valve Rattles Engine Trash stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- People are very flexible and learn to adjust to strange surroundings -- they can become accustomed to read Lisp and Fortran programs, for example. - Leon Sterling and Ehud Shapiro, Art of Prolog, MIT Press Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] USB mass-storage: HELP!
My camera is Mercury. I think it is a new camera product. I'm not using a Memory Card; just using the default's camera. In M$ Win98, I try to connect to my camera; I must install it's driver, and it is work. In M$ Win98's Windows Explorer, I've get a new drive; that is my camera's FAT. From this experience, I think the problem is the module: usb-storage module. Am I right ?? Or maybe Bryan have some links to update my usb-storage module? Or have some tips for me Thank's ++ --- Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The filesystem needed is dependent on what type of camera since the camera is the device that is actually formatting the media. My Kodak uses a 12-bit FAT filesystem. It might help if you told us what type of camera you have so that we can do a little googling for others that may have howtos available. H Make me headache and broken heart. *Or maybe usb-storage module not yet supporting my camera ??? That is a possibility. What type of media does it use? I have a HP multifunction printer that you can actually plug most smart media into and pull the files directly from the printer. That might be an option you can use if you have major problems with the camera. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
He's not sick, he's educated. Having worked in BOTH Ford and GM engineering, I can tell you which company has it's act together. Mark - FORD driver. Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 02:42, Frankie wrote: God I love Ford, I have been a ford fan for many years, and this is another reason why who knows, one day the falcons might have an embeeded linux running the engine too.. that would be cool, being able to tell people my car runs linux. (though I plan to build my old laptop into my car running linux, so I will be able to say that soon anyway. :-) rgds Franki You're a very sick man, Frankie. I've started selling In Home Self Lobotomy Kits - want me to send ya one? God knows Holden/Chevy is a Real Blokes vehicle... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- People are very flexible and learn to adjust to strange surroundings -- they can become accustomed to read Lisp and Fortran programs, for example. - Leon Sterling and Ehud Shapiro, Art of Prolog, MIT Press Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Comp shutdown looses / and /var
I seem to have a heat problem with a 750mhz Duron. It may be the power supply or the cpu not sure, but believe it to be the cpu. Anyway the lm_sensors shows a 60c in the case I think and when I am gone and it sits for a while it will reboot. I then can rescue, it seems to have lost the / partition and /var I think. It is possible to remount them. I recovered the system by doing an upgrade to get the partitions back but do not understand why the / and /var are lost. Any tutorials or explanations are appreciated. Thanks, -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
Dont even get me started Greg Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 02:42, Frankie wrote: God I love Ford, I have been a ford fan for many years, and this is another reason why who knows, one day the falcons might have an embeeded linux running the engine too.. that would be cool, being able to tell people my car runs linux. (though I plan to build my old laptop into my car running linux, so I will be able to say that soon anyway. :-) rgds Franki You're a very sick man, Frankie. I've started selling In Home Self Lobotomy Kits - want me to send ya one? God knows Holden/Chevy is a Real Blokes vehicle... Chevorlet = Cracked Heads Every Valve Rattles Engine Trash stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- People are very flexible and learn to adjust to strange surroundings -- they can become accustomed to read Lisp and Fortran programs, for example. - Leon Sterling and Ehud Shapiro, Art of Prolog, MIT Press Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Linux Mandrake Rules __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] iptraf
On Sunday 21 September 2003 07:23 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 03:05, Chris wrote: Probably a dumb newbie question here on iptraf. Nice app, question though since it has to be run as root from the CL, is it safe to have it running all the time? Yes and No. Yes when your system is powered on. No when your system ain't running. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Household hint: If you are out of cream for your coffee, mayonnaise makes a dandy substitute. Where do you go to find out what the flags mean, like S and A? I can only guess what their meaning is. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Looking for Linux system libs
Greetings All. I am working through the instructions for building a lexmark z55 sample print driver. I was asked to check for the presence of two system libraries (sigc++ and gtkmm) using 'pkg-config --list-all | grep sigc++'. pkg-config failed with the message: Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable Package 'gtk+-2.0', required by 'gtk-thinice-engine-2', not found - There is no directory gtk+-2.0.pc, no env PKG_CONFIG_PATH and no package gtk+-20 installed on my Mandrake 9.1. The instructions were directed toward a Red Hat 8.0 installation. Any suggestions? Thanks, Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 18:25, Mark wrote: He's not sick, he's educated. Having worked in BOTH Ford and GM engineering, I can tell you which company has it's act together. Mark - FORD driver.Found on Roadside Dead Fix OR Replace Daily ;-) Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 02:42, Frankie wrote: God I love Ford, I have been a ford fan for many years, and this is another reason why who knows, one day the falcons might have an embeeded linux running the engine too.. that would be cool, being able to tell people my car runs linux. (though I plan to build my old laptop into my car running linux, so I will be able to say that soon anyway. :-) rgds Franki You're a very sick man, Frankie. I've started selling In Home Self Lobotomy Kits - want me to send ya one? God knows Holden/Chevy is a Real Blokes vehicle... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- People are very flexible and learn to adjust to strange surroundings -- they can become accustomed to read Lisp and Fortran programs, for example. - Leon Sterling and Ehud Shapiro, Art of Prolog, MIT Press Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] My clock is fast
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 17:51, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 07:48, Pete Stean wrote: Being that time is relative, you might be in a situation where you're actually travelling faster than light, which would cause time to appear to slow down. If that is, in fact, the case, then you'll have to throttle back your space ship so that you're within normal operating bounds and time will again settle back into it's pace. Yes, as you pass the speed of light time definitely goes into reverse - I cite Star Trek IV - The Voyage Home as proof Now THAT'S solid proof. End of story. But then you would have TWO DOCTORS stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Understanding is always the understanding of a smaller problem in relation to a bigger problem. -- P.D. Ouspensky __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 09:57, Aron Smith wrote: God knows Holden/Chevy is a Real Blokes vehicle... Chevorlet = Cracked Heads Every Valve Rattles Engine Trash Sorry - I forgot about the po'folk - down yonder in the land of the gene puddle - where the family tree has one branch...(g) Y'all got stuck into Ford way back when only cuz yer ancestors couldn't spell Chevrolet...(hehehhehehee...I piss myself sometimes) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Adding features does not necessarily increase functionality -- it just makes the manuals thicker. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comp shutdown looses / and /var
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 21:29, Dennis Myers wrote: I seem to have a heat problem with a 750mhz Duron. It may be the power supply or the cpu not sure, but believe it to be the cpu. Anyway the lm_sensors shows a 60c in the case I think and when I am gone and it sits for a while it will reboot. I then can rescue, it seems to have lost the / partition and /var I think. It is possible to remount them. I recovered the system by doing an upgrade to get the partitions back but do not understand why the / and /var are lost. Any tutorials or explanations are appreciated. Thanks, what file systems are you using for / and /var? -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
I would rather buy a Chevrolet then get a ford for fee HeHe Greg Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 09:57, Aron Smith wrote: God knows Holden/Chevy is a Real Blokes vehicle... Chevorlet = Cracked Heads Every Valve Rattles Engine Trash Sorry - I forgot about the po'folk - down yonder in the land of the gene puddle - where the family tree has one branch...(g) Y'all got stuck into Ford way back when only cuz yer ancestors couldn't spell Chevrolet...(hehehhehehee...I piss myself sometimes) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Adding features does not necessarily increase functionality -- it just makes the manuals thicker. -- Linux Mandrake Rules __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
