[newbie] playing .WMV files

2004-03-22 Thread Tadimeti Keshav
Hi
I have MDK 9.1, I am not able to play .WMV movie
files. Has any one had success with this?

How about .WMA audio files?

THanks
Tk





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[newbie] Mandrake 10 -- Excellent...but...

2004-03-22 Thread John Wilson
First of all I have to say that MDK 10 is very pleasing eye candy.  It's fast 
with the 2.6 series kernel and it's a pleasure to use it.

The download via Bittorrent went smoothly and I continued to share it for a 
couple of weeks.  (I'll get it back up soon once I get something here 
fixed :-) ).  

The only problem was that CD 4 wasn't recognized on installation and had to be 
added manually later.  I'm thinking the problem is the folder name RPMS5 
instead of RPMS4.  In any event, it wasn't serious.

Updates went smoothly from the listed update sites.

Sound works, all hardware was recognized and both machines came up flawlessly.

Now, onto the problems.

I think the first one about the unreliablity of reading and, apparently, 
writing CDs and DVDs has been answered in that I probably don't have magicdev 
(??)  installed and I'm using automount instead.  It seems automount is 
installed by default for some strange reason and yes I'm using the 2.6.x 
kernel.

The second issue is more troubling.  When setting up internet connection 
sharing the wizard fscks all networking.  I can always reach the internet 
before I set it up but not after.  I admit I haven't had the time yet to look 
too deeply into it so I don't  know whether or not it's the shorewall 
installation, the "transparent" proxy or if it just screws up the settings on 
the NIC. What I have noticed is that the wizard insists on setting up my eth1 
card which is the one the internet connects to as static and eth0 as dhcp.   
It should be the other way around.  This was a problem with the older 
releases up to 9.1 when it suddenly worked as I wanted it to.  Ditto with 
9.2.  10 seems to have taken a step backwards in assuming that eth0 is the 
one heading to the outside world.  Nevertheless, it's caused some headache 
and I've been wondering if anyone else has experienced this.

It's not a big problem as I can set it all up manually if needs must.

Incidentally, the machines installed on are an old Dell Dimension and a newer 
Sony Viao desktop.  Next victim will be my laptop :)

ttfn

(a generally very happy)

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Re: [newbie] permissions..

2004-03-22 Thread Stephanus Fengler
Well, I do not know the answer... but generally spoken:
root has the permission to the whole system.
okay, a guess...
what probably happend is that you have run your system in paranoid mode 
and executing binary files without ownership of root is forbidden. 
however, let me say one thing...
the principle of security is based on permission... and best security 
is, when the user is only and only allowed to execute what he is allowed 
to... my suggestion to you is:
configure your system in a way that you have as a user access to your 
program but do not execute it as root.

you can see the ownership if you do "ls -la" on your directory in a 
terminal.
I hope this helps.

Regards,
Stephanus Fengler
Ville Vartiainen wrote:

hi.

a had thinking and struggling , how i can have permissions to my whole
system ? I am root and only user to this system and i cant understand ,
how i can have permissions to whole system:
for example , i cant launch a launcher from panel... it says:

Cannot launch icon
Details: Failed to execute child process
"/home/mansikka/binaryprograms/gtk-gnutella-0.93.3" (Permission denied)
-

for example.. and with firefox it does same thing.
so. how can i have permissions to whole system?
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[newbie] permissions..

2004-03-22 Thread Ville Vartiainen
hi.

a had thinking and struggling , how i can have permissions to my whole
system ? I am root and only user to this system and i cant understand ,
how i can have permissions to whole system:
for example , i cant launch a launcher from panel... it says:

Cannot launch icon

Details: Failed to execute child process
"/home/mansikka/binaryprograms/gtk-gnutella-0.93.3" (Permission denied)

-

for example.. and with firefox it does same thing.
so. how can i have permissions to whole system?
thank you.


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[newbie] permissions to system

2004-03-22 Thread Ville Vartiainen
hi.

a had thinking and struggling , how i can have permissions to my whole
system ? I am root and only user to this system and i cant understand ,
how i can have permissions to whole system:
for example , i cant launch a launcher from panel... it says:

Cannot launch icon

Details: Failed to execute child process
"/home/mansikka/binaryprograms/gtk-gnutella-0.93.3" (Permission denied)

-

for example.. and with firefox it does same thing.
so. how can i have permissions to whole system?
thank you.


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Re: [newbie] Gateway BURN IN HELL!! RANT Kind of long

2004-03-22 Thread Maureen
Marc wrote:

On Saturday 20 March 2004 05:27 pm, bascule wrote:
 

it would be interesting to know the results of putting the gateway hard
drive in a 'normal' machine and putting a 'normal' hard drive in the
gateway machine
bascule

   

  Been there done that. I had to put the Gateway HDD in a different machine 
to format it with a windoze disk before the gateway would recognize it again.  
The other machine reconized it right away and actually booted right on to the 
Linux installation on the HDD that I had removed from the Gateway That was 2 
different HDDs that worked fine in the gateway (1 Western Digital and 1 
Maxtor) until I installed Linux after that the Gateway machine would not 
reconize eather of them until they were installed in an other machine and 
reformated using a winbloze disk. After reformating with a windoze disk the 
Gateway machine was again able to use them with no trouble at all. And as I 
said in the first bessage I had a old 500 MB HDD with windoze on it that the 
Gateway computer was able to recognize.
  It seems to me like something has been done to the bios in the Gateway to 
make it NOT recognize any HDD with Linux installed on it. The MOBO was made 
by Intel but the Bios was customized with the Gateway logo so I really cant 
say Who is responsible for the bios problems intel or Gateway but due to the 
fact that Intel brand MOBOs are used in so many brands of computers if this 
was a Intel related problem I suspect that we all would have heard about it 
much sooner. As I said this machine is less than 3 months old so maybe as 
time passes we will hear more storys like this.
 It seems like this almost had to be something done on purpose to the bios. 
If that Is the case I hope that the Linux community comes down on Gateway 
and, or Intel like a ton of bricks.

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I had the same problem with a friend of mine who wanted to try Linux.  I 
also had a spare harddrive that had linux already on it.  We took his 
out and put mine in and it would start to boot and then just stall.  
Couldn't get into the BIOS at all.  We put his old disk in and it was 
recongized just fine but had to reinstall windows.  This is a 3 year old 
gateway.  He tried to install linux on the original harddrive and all 
went well until reboot.  Again we couldn't get into the bios.  Now that 
I know what the problem is I can reformat his drive with partition majic 
and he can use the restore disk.  Although it doesn't surprise me in the 
least, gateway and gates, both suck. 

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[newbie] cannot login with mdkdm

2004-03-22 Thread fengler
Hi,

I just installed Mandrake 10 community edition.
Now I got the following problem:

I installed with mode Paranoid so root should be generally unable to login 
XSession or console.

However, on console F1-F6 this works and is fine. But when I try to login at 
mdkkdm as a normal user, screen turns blank and restarts xserver again, see 
[1] for logfile /var/log/mdkkdm.log ... But the funny thing is: root can 
login!?!  So something is obviously screwed up... Can anyone help me in  
understanding the logfile and how to solve that problem, please?

My guess is, that the XServer configuration in XF86Config-4 is not 100% right. 
So my keyboard section says this:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "Keyboard"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "en_US"
Option "XkbOptions" ""
EndSection

where I have to add anyways:
Option "AutoRepeat" "200 30"
because this is not working...

Thanks in advance,
Stephanus Fengler

P.S.
My system is a hp pavilion zt3000 notebook. So the notebook keyboard might not 
be properly detected?

P.P.S.
Sorry, for 356 lines of junk!?!

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please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
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XFree86 Version 4.3.0.1
Release Date: 15 August 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.0-1mdkenterprise i686 [ELF] 
Build Date: 01 March 2004
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to make sure that you have the latest version.
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Re: [newbie]

2004-03-22 Thread Charlie
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:03 pm, many eyes viewed Bryan Phinney's words:-
> On Tuesday 23 March 2004 04:06 am, Charlie wrote:
> > Not being an ironmonger, I was always under the impression that if you
> > had one say 5400rpm hardrive then the 7500rpm or whatever only ran at the
> > slower speed as well?
>
> You might be confusing RPM speed with UDMA or ATA standards.  If you have
> two drives, one a UDMA/33 and the other a UDMA/66 on the same controller,
> the controller has to access both drives at the slowest speed, so the
> UDMA/66 drive would be accessed at UDMA/33 speeds.  Same principle applies
> to two drives, one a UDMA/66 and the other a UDMA/100.  Both drives would
> be accessed at UDMA/66 speeds.

Yes Bryan, that's what I was confusing it with. You picked it in one, thank 
you.

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Re: [newbie]

2004-03-22 Thread Charlie
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:37 pm, many eyes viewed David Bachechi's words:-
> No not at all...not even if they are on the same channelit would
> slow it down but, not tremendously.  they physically cant slow down just
> because of the other drive.
>
> Thats my 2 cents.
>
> Charlie wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:51 pm, many eyes viewed Tavazzani Paolo's words:-
> >
> >>I've just installed Mandrake 10.0 on my PC.
> >>The system has two disks, on disk 1 I just left the original Windows Xp
> >>partition, on disk 2 (bigger and faster) I have freed some 11gb from XP
> >>with Partition Magic.
> >
> > Not being an ironmonger, I was always under the impression that if you
> > had one say 5400rpm hardrive then the 7500rpm or whatever only ran at the
> > slower speed as well?
> >
> > Charlie

Thanks for that David, I have long been under a misapprehension then.
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Re: [newbie] Opening terminal adds users

2004-03-22 Thread Chris
On Monday 22 March 2004 02:41 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 23:01, Bryan Phinney wrote:
> > Chris and I talked a little about this.  On my 9.1 system, every time I
> > start a new konsole it creates a new user, however, when I "exit" the
> > konsole, it removes the additional user.  It is not doing that on his
> > system, it is leaving the user session active even after he exits from
> > the konsole.  I don't think that is normal behavior, at least, it is
> > not normal on my 9.1 system.
>
> So it's "ghosting" sessions; ah - ok - now I get the picture; I just
> tried to duplicate the issue here and well, it doesn't duplicate; I'm on
> a 9.1+ system (upgraded/updated with urpmi from cooker and with
> Red-Carpet); but my system is also optimised and tuned highly; I'm
> wondering if it's something to do with memory cache...
>

Looking at my user log in /var/log/user.log I see the following entires.  
The last entry was when I just ran sa-learn.  Does this help at all?


Mar 22 17:14:04 chris gconfd (chris-27016): starting (version 1.2.1), pid 
27016 user 'chris'
Mar 22 17:14:04 chris gconfd (chris-27016): Resolved address 
"xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only config source 
at position 0
Mar 22 17:14:04 chris gconfd (chris-27016): Resolved address 
"xml:readwrite:/home/chris/.gconf" to a writable config source at position 
1
Mar 22 17:14:04 chris gconfd (chris-27016): Resolved address 
"xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only config source 
at position 2
Mar 22 17:16:04 chris gconfd (chris-27016): GConf server is not in use, 
shutting down.
Mar 22 17:16:04 chris gconfd (chris-27016): Exiting
Mar 22 20:06:06 chris gconfd (chris-29938): starting (version 1.2.1), pid 
29938 user 'chris'
Mar 22 20:06:06 chris gconfd (chris-29938): Resolved address 
"xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only config source 
at position 0
Mar 22 20:06:06 chris gconfd (chris-29938): Resolved address 
"xml:readwrite:/home/chris/.gconf" to a writable config source at position 
1
Mar 22 20:06:06 chris gconfd (chris-29938): Resolved address 
"xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only config source 
at position 2
Mar 22 20:08:06 chris gconfd (chris-29938): GConf server is not in use, 
shutting down.
Mar 22 20:08:06 chris gconfd (chris-29938): Exiting
Mar 22 20:11:33 chris gpm[30132]: info: [gpn.c(363)]: 
Mar 22 20:11:33 chris gpm[30132]: Started gpm successfully. Entered daemon 
mode.
Mar 22 20:14:30 chris gpm[30245]: info: [gpn.c(363)]: 
Mar 22 20:14:30 chris gpm[30245]: Started gpm successfully. Entered daemon 
mode.
Mar 22 20:26:59 chris userhelper: pam_timestamp: timestamp file 
`/var/run/sudo/chris/unknown:root' is too old, disallowing access to 
simple_root_authen for UID 501
Mar 22 20:27:04 chris userhelper: pam_timestamp: updated timestamp file 
`/var/run/sudo/chris/unknown:root'


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[newbie] sound comes only though left channel

2004-03-22 Thread John Drouhard
I recently upgraded to Mandrake 10.0 community. Everything works pretty
good (I don't really see the point in upgrading though, at least not
yet). Anyway, sound only comes through the left speaker no matter what I
try.

Any ideas?
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Re: [newbie] Opening terminal adds users

2004-03-22 Thread Chris
On Monday 22 March 2004 02:41 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 23:01, Bryan Phinney wrote:
> > Chris and I talked a little about this.  On my 9.1 system, every time I
> > start a new konsole it creates a new user, however, when I "exit" the
> > konsole, it removes the additional user.  It is not doing that on his
> > system, it is leaving the user session active even after he exits from
> > the konsole.  I don't think that is normal behavior, at least, it is
> > not normal on my 9.1 system.
>
> So it's "ghosting" sessions; ah - ok - now I get the picture; I just
> tried to duplicate the issue here and well, it doesn't duplicate; I'm on
> a 9.1+ system (upgraded/updated with urpmi from cooker and with
> Red-Carpet); but my system is also optimised and tuned highly; I'm
> wondering if it's something to do with memory cache...
>

Don't know Stephen, any way I can find out?

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Re: [newbie] iPOD with Mandrake?

2004-03-22 Thread Marc Resnick
Carroll Grigsby wrote:

On Monday 22 March 2004 06:48 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:

 

Now a second question

Can anyone lend me some money for an iPod?
   

Yeah sure. You're new around here, aren't you?
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Re: [newbie] iPOD with Mandrake?

2004-03-22 Thread Aron Smith
On Monday 22 March 2004 03:48 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
> Maryam wrote:
> >Never tried it myself but these look promising
> >http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/
> >http://neuron.com/~jason/ipod.html
> >http://www.blinkenlights.ch/cgi-bin/fm.pl?get=ipode
> >
> >On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 10:17, Marc Resnick wrote:
> >>Is it possible to use an iPOD with Mandrake? I'm not quite sure of how
> >>iPODs work. Would it be recognized just as a removable device? Or does
> >>anyone know of any open source apps equivalent to the itunes software?
> >>
> >>TIA
> >>
> >>--Marc
> >>
> >>
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> Yea I saw those...
>
> Now a second question
>
> Can anyone lend me some money for an iPod?
Sorry just upgraded my Glock ;-)
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Re: [newbie] iPOD with Mandrake?

2004-03-22 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Monday 22 March 2004 06:48 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:

> Now a second question
>
> Can anyone lend me some money for an iPod?

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Re: [newbie]

2004-03-22 Thread Chuck Mattsen
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 14:19, Anne Wilson wrote:
> I've done it both ways and been OK, but I've read that some people 
> have not been so lucky, so create the partition in windows.  Create 
> the linux partitions with diskdrake.  
> 
> Remember that if you start an install you can 'dummy run' - you can 
> try out your partition settings because nothing is written to disk 
> until you finish.  It will warn you when it is about to write the 
> partition table, and you can abort at any time before that write and 
> you will be perfectly safe.

Okay, I've obviously still have a lot of learning to do before I
understand this process, as I'm at a loss at this point.  Perhaps it's
more difficult and/or undoable because I'm dealing with existing
WinXP/NTFS and Linux/Ext3 partitions, and a block of free space smack
dab in the middle, and it would be a simpler process if installing Linux
from scratch at this point?

In short, my previous setup (prior to resizing the XP partition downward
in size was, roughly, a 40GB drive split thusly:
 25GB NTFS/XP partition, followed by a 
 15GB logical partition, consisting of /, swap and /home

I resized the XP partition down to 15GB, freeing up an approximately
10GB block of drive, so I now have it sitting between hda1 and hda5 ... 

Partition Manager (which I'm still learning and getting used to) seems
to only want to offer the option to create another primary drive out of
that free space -or- give me the option of extending the logical drive
containing hda5, swap and hda7.

Again, I'm confused and admittedly still pretty ignorant about this
whole process.  Have I blundered already in my shrinking of the NTFS
position and leaving the block of "free" space in the midst there, or am
I just missing some important concept here?  (A somewhat rhetorical
question, as I know I'm missing a lot in terms of knowledge of the
process).

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Re: [newbie] Monitor in sleep mode.

2004-03-22 Thread Dan Gordon
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:30:29 +
John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dan Gordon wrote:
> 
> >
> > 
> >Yes its definetly in a fixed interval but is a longer time than 15
> >minutes, more like an hour but I'm not sure exactly. I have turned
> >off power control in kde both as user and in root.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Dan Gordon
> >
> >  
> >
> Is this a CRT with TCO the energy savng thing ?
> John
> 

Yes its a CRT with that energy saving stuff but I have turned it off in
the BIOS and in kde, xscreensaver and wherever I could find an option to
do so.  Ive never had this happen before, Just reinstalled everything a
week ago and it started to go into suspend after a period of time at
least an hour.  Its got me beat all to heck.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] xml and grep

2004-03-22 Thread Carl J. Bauman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 02:53:50PM +, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
 

Help, I have my web limited by my company now, so I can't google till tomorrow. I need help with parsing an xml file. I need to cut out a fax number from the file. Easy enough I though just grep and cut the line, but the whole file is one line. I know this is a simple command but I can't work it out on my own, and with out google (strange how easy you get attached to things) I am stuck. Please help.

Thanks,

Tony.
   

So, assuming the xml fax line was something like

123-456-7890

 

Assuming the same tags as above, this would probably work also:

   cat fax.xml | perl -n -e ' print "$1\n" if /(.+)<\/fax>/; '

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Re: [newbie] Insitu upgrade from 9.2 to 10

2004-03-22 Thread Dennis Myers
On Monday 22 March 2004 04:15 am, Oliver Marshall wrote:
> Has anyone done an upgrade from 9.2 to 10 ? I have a box here that I use
> as a desktop machine (so OpenOffice, Firefox etc) as well as a test
> server to tinker with (irc, ssh, samba etc). I want to upgrade it to 10
> from 9.2, but im worried it will bugger it totally, and that some of the
> stuff wont work after. I'm a noob, so I would be outta my depth if it
> busted it.
>
> Anyone got any words of wisdom on the best way of upgrading so that
> everything was still there and in one piece after ?
>
> Olly
I just did it. Save /home and once you get the update you will have to move 
your old mail  into a new mail if you have Kontact on the system.  Just save 
the old mail as .mail2 and then do the upgrade. create .mail in the 
new /home/username and move the old stuff into it. HTH
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Re: [newbie] iPOD with Mandrake?

2004-03-22 Thread Marc Resnick
Maryam wrote:

Never tried it myself but these look promising
http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/
http://neuron.com/~jason/ipod.html
http://www.blinkenlights.ch/cgi-bin/fm.pl?get=ipode
On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 10:17, Marc Resnick wrote:
 

Is it possible to use an iPOD with Mandrake? I'm not quite sure of how 
iPODs work. Would it be recognized just as a removable device? Or does 
anyone know of any open source apps equivalent to the itunes software?

TIA

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Yea I saw those...

Now a second question

Can anyone lend me some money for an iPod?




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Re: [newbie]

2004-03-22 Thread Charlie
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:51 pm, many eyes viewed Tavazzani Paolo's words:-
> I've just installed Mandrake 10.0 on my PC.
> The system has two disks, on disk 1 I just left the original Windows Xp
> partition, on disk 2 (bigger and faster) I have freed some 11gb from XP
> with Partition Magic.

Not being an ironmonger, I was always under the impression that if you had one 
say 5400rpm hardrive then the 7500rpm or whatever only ran at the slower 
speed as well?

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Re: [newbie] Still no sound

2004-03-22 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 13:44, robin wrote:

> There's a choice of two for VIA, and neither of them worked. But as I 
> posted recently, I got sound working somehow (I think it was when I was 
> fiddling with /etc/modprobe.conf).
> 
> Sir Robin

Well, as we all know, you're a resourceful kinda guy mate. BTW, the GF
and I might be coming out yer way on our way to Cairo this year.

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Re: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Rick Kunath
> Are
> the XP utilities to fix MBR OK?
>

Yes, fixboot and fixmbr will do the trick, used from the recovery console, and 
restore the MBR.

After a Linux reinstall, just allow lilo to reinstall iteslf into the MBR as 
usual.

I don't think you really have a problem with your file system though. I am 
more inclined to believe that you have run up against the PM limitation I 
described earlier. PM is not a good tool to use along with other partitioning 
utilities. If you want to use PM, use it and no other utility to partition 
and format all of your partitions, then install Linux into these 
pre-partitioned locations.

I agree with other advice eariler in the thread, use some other utility 
without the limitation.

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Re: [newbie]

2004-03-22 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 00:51, Tavazzani Paolo wrote:
> Hi all,
> I've just installed Mandrake 10.0 on my PC.
> The system has two disks, on disk 1 I just left the original Windows Xp partition, 
> on disk 2 (bigger and faster) I have freed some 11gb from XP with Partition Magic.
> 
> I've installed Mandrake 10.0 in expert mode, I got it to install in the free space, 
> making two partitions: one of 10gb for '/' and a 1gb swap partition. Result after 
> partitioning: 70GB NTFS - 10GB Ext3 - 1GB Swap
> 
> Installation went OK.
> 
> Now I can access with LILO both the XP installation and the Mandrake one and 
> everything works fine.
> 
> The main problem I have is that if I launch Partition Magic from XP, PM shwos for 
> disk 2 with a single partition and says it is a damaged one. I suspect some 
> partition overlap but I'm not sure on how to move
> 
> Any suggestion?
> 
> Thanks

Don't run PQM from inside of Windows. Make the boot disks and run it
from there. DON'T let it repair the partition(s).

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Re: [newbie] Opening terminal adds users

2004-03-22 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 23:01, Bryan Phinney wrote:

> Chris and I talked a little about this.  On my 9.1 system, every time I start 
> a new konsole it creates a new user, however, when I "exit" the konsole, it 
> removes the additional user.  It is not doing that on his system, it is 
> leaving the user session active even after he exits from the konsole.  I 
> don't think that is normal behavior, at least, it is not normal on my 9.1 
> system.

So it's "ghosting" sessions; ah - ok - now I get the picture; I just
tried to duplicate the issue here and well, it doesn't duplicate; I'm on
a 9.1+ system (upgraded/updated with urpmi from cooker and with
Red-Carpet); but my system is also optimised and tuned highly; I'm
wondering if it's something to do with memory cache...

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Re: [newbie]

2004-03-22 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Monday 22 March 2004 20:02, Chuck Mattsen wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 13:50, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > If you are dual booting you really need a fat32 partition for
> > data, so that it can safely be read and written to by both OSs. 
> > You should also have a separate partition for /home, as you do
> > not want to lose everything under home if things go wrong and you
> > have to reinstall or want to upgrade.  Swap need not be more than
> > 512MB.  HTH
>
> Is it better to set up that FAT32 partition for data from the
> Windows side of things, or from the Linux side, or does it make any
> difference in the long run?  In other words, if it becomes, say, an
> "F:" drive within Windows, is that the same as creating it as, say,
> "/data" from within Linux, or are there some gotchas in this
> process?
>
I've done it both ways and been OK, but I've read that some people 
have not been so lucky, so create the partition in windows.  Create 
the linux partitions with diskdrake.  

Remember that if you start an install you can 'dummy run' - you can 
try out your partition settings because nothing is written to disk 
until you finish.  It will warn you when it is about to write the 
partition table, and you can abort at any time before that write and 
you will be perfectly safe.

> Paranoid, as always, and certainly not used to the whole
> partitioning "thang" ... TIA

Actually, I feel the whole thing is less fraught with diskdrake than 
it ever was in windows.  As for being paranoid - join the gang!  It's 
a healthy thing to be 

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Re: [newbie]

2004-03-22 Thread robin
Chuck Mattsen wrote:
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 13:50, Anne Wilson wrote:

If you are dual booting you really need a fat32 partition for data, so 
that it can safely be read and written to by both OSs.  You should 
also have a separate partition for /home, as you do not want to lose 
everything under home if things go wrong and you have to reinstall or 
want to upgrade.  Swap need not be more than 512MB.  HTH


Is it better to set up that FAT32 partition for data from the Windows
side of things, or from the Linux side, or does it make any difference
in the long run?  In other words, if it becomes, say, an "F:" drive
within Windows, is that the same as creating it as, say, "/data" from
within Linux, or are there some gotchas in this process?
Paranoid, as always, and certainly not used to the whole partitioning
"thang" ... TIA
Makes no difference, AFAIK. The way I did it last time I set up a dual 
boot system was to install Windows (which always insists on being 
installed first) with only one partition, then install Mandrake with a 
FAT32 partition next to Windows (i.e. /hda2), then divide the rest of 
the disk between my various Linux partitions.

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Re: [newbie] SCO goes after the *wrong* people.

2004-03-22 Thread Aron Smith
On Monday 22 March 2004 09:57 am, Lanman wrote:
> On face value, you'd almost think that he already works for
> them, but you may be right!
So might you
>
> Lanman
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> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
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> On 3/22/2004 at 9:53 AM rikona wrote:
> >Hello Lanman,
> >
> >Sunday, March 21, 2004, 3:20:12 PM, you wrote:
> >
> >L> Gee Darl, Good thing you stopped marketing Caldera
>
> Linux then isn't
>
> >L> it! But, wait just a minute? Isn't it true that Caldera
>
> earned
>
> >L> enough money  to BUY SCO, using that big ole nasty
>
> Open-Source
>
> >L> software? What a  friggin' hypocrit!
> >
> >L> I'm tellin' ya fellow list-members, when this guy is
>
> done, his name
>
> >L> and  reputation won't be worth diddley-squat!
> >
> >He'll just go to work for M$, and will be right at home.
>
> They LOVE
>
> >people with that kind of reputation.
> >
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Re: [newbie] Gateway BURN IN HELL!! RANT Kind of long

2004-03-22 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 20:55, anton wrote:

> may they all die, like all furry aussie animals destroying NZs beautiful 
> and unique nature!
> Anton the kiwi who won't be for much longer...
> ps. Yes, we do have them, what's more, we have/had a species that is 
> extinct in Aussie! And we graciously gave them to you instead of killing 
> them all! What have you done for us lately? Eh?

What have we done for Kiwis? Lessee - we let them come here and take
jobs from Australians, we give them free range in immigration, we give
them the ability to bludge the welfare system and the health care
system, we treat them better than some Aussies, we let them play on our
footy teams, AND we go so far out of our way to take what they claim is
a pest and transport them BACK to Australia to be re-instated into the
ecosystem...howzat mate?
(g)

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Re: [newbie] Printer Problem

2004-03-22 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Monday 22 March 2004 16:22, Matthew Harrison wrote:
> Matthew Harrison wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >  On my 9.2 box, I am trying to print to a network printer.  I go
> > through the MCC and try and set up the printer.  When it tries to
> > configure the printer, it comes back and tells me that it Failed
> > to Configure the printer.  I am at a loss, because I have had
> > this printer set up before on different MDK machines with no
> > problem, and there should be no difference in the way I set mine
> > up with the way I set others up.  Any ideas would be welcome.
> >
>
> Reply to my own problem here.  I just removed and reinstalled cups
> and it seems to be fine now.  Sorry about that.
>
I'm glad you did, Matt.  I struggled this morning trying to find out 
why the 9.2 box could not print to my printer(s).  PrinterDrake said 
that it saw all four instances of the printer (each set up with 
different parameters - but that's a different story) but nothing 
seemed to work.  I'll try your solution.

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Re: [newbie]

2004-03-22 Thread Chuck Mattsen
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 13:50, Anne Wilson wrote:
> If you are dual booting you really need a fat32 partition for data, so 
> that it can safely be read and written to by both OSs.  You should 
> also have a separate partition for /home, as you do not want to lose 
> everything under home if things go wrong and you have to reinstall or 
> want to upgrade.  Swap need not be more than 512MB.  HTH

Is it better to set up that FAT32 partition for data from the Windows
side of things, or from the Linux side, or does it make any difference
in the long run?  In other words, if it becomes, say, an "F:" drive
within Windows, is that the same as creating it as, say, "/data" from
within Linux, or are there some gotchas in this process?

Paranoid, as always, and certainly not used to the whole partitioning
"thang" ... TIA

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Re: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Rick Kunath
Partition Magic (and the Windows partitioning tool) expect partitions to begin 
and end on cylinder boundaries. Both make sure this is the way the disks are 
physically partitioned. Linux has no such limitation, and this is probably 
the reason for the PM error.

Windows partitions will run just fine if not ended on a cylinder boundary, as 
Linux partitions do also. If you're looking for a good Windows partition 
utility, I wound up buying Paragon Hard Disk Manager (I've no affilliation 
with them, just a user), and have used the app on several occasions where PM 
failed to work. Once you get the error, you can't use PM, it will fail to 
start. I believe there are some free partitioning tools out there, Ranish 
partition manager comes to mind, but I haven't used it in years.

As was mentioned already in this thread, *do not* use PM to repair the 
non-error. If you do, you'll have a non-working Linux installation.

I believe the utility to access the Linux ext2 and ext3 file systems from 
Windows is still included with Paragon, if you have a need for such access.

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Re: [newbie]

2004-03-22 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Monday 22 March 2004 13:51, Tavazzani Paolo wrote:
>
> The main problem I have is that if I launch Partition Magic from
> XP, PM shwos for disk 2 with a single partition and says it is a
> damaged one.

Whatever you do, when it offers to fix it for you, say 'no' - or you 
may lose both XP and Mandrake.

If you are dual booting you really need a fat32 partition for data, so 
that it can safely be read and written to by both OSs.  You should 
also have a separate partition for /home, as you do not want to lose 
everything under home if things go wrong and you have to reinstall or 
want to upgrade.  Swap need not be more than 512MB.  HTH

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Re: [newbie] Still no sound

2004-03-22 Thread robin
Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 14:38, robin wrote: 

...and it's safe to assume that you've tried other drivers - like
forcing ALSA?
How would I do that?

Sir Robin


Is there not a means by which - such as in 9.1 - to change the driver in
MCC/Hardware to utilise a different driver for sound (or any other bit
of hardware)?
There's a choice of two for VIA, and neither of them worked. But as I 
posted recently, I got sound working somehow (I think it was when I was 
fiddling with /etc/modprobe.conf).

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Re: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Chuck Mattsen
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 09:01, Bryan Phinney wrote:
> If you really must use a Windows tool for partitions, you might consider 
> getting Paragon Partition Manager.  It is a superior tool, IMHO, and will 
> happily copy, format, move, extend all Linux partitions that I have ever run 
> into including ReiserFS, EXT3, 2, etc.  It also will not report the erroneous 
> error messages that you are currently seeing.

Hey, nice.  Partition Magic was groaning and complaining, wanting to
"fix" things (scary) when I tried to fire it up, but I bought  a
copy of Paragon PM and it quickly did the NTFS resizing, etc., that
Partition Magic had been balking at; no errors, no complaints, and I'm
still here.  :)

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Re: [newbie] xml and grep

2004-03-22 Thread Todd Slater
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 02:53:50PM +, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> Help, I have my web limited by my company now, so I can't google till tomorrow. I 
> need help with parsing an xml file. I need to cut out a fax number from the file. 
> Easy enough I though just grep and cut the line, but the whole file is one line. I 
> know this is a simple command but I can't work it out on my own, and with out google 
> (strange how easy you get attached to things) I am stuck. Please help.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tony.

Tony,

Not sure if this'll help, but here's what I used to get all links to
begin on a new line.

sed s/''/'\/a>\n'/g > processed

The "\n" gives you a new line, so I'm saying every time you see "" replace it
with "/a>\n"

So, assuming the xml fax line was something like

123-456-7890

you could do

sed s/''/'\n'/g file_with_fax_number.xml | sed s/'<\/fax>'/'<\/fax>\n'/g > 
some_output_file

Then, you could grep some_output_file for "fax" or of course get fancy
and cut a certain number of characters to pull out just the fax number.

HTH,
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Re: [newbie] mdk 10.0 community wont boot

2004-03-22 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 22 March 2004 12:33 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:

>Well, there's more goin on than I can contemplate then Bryan.
> You certainly should not have any problem with that hardware of
> yours.  I'm basing my opinions (ok, bias ;) on my experience that
> the only time during the 10.0 development process, IIRC, at
> beta1, CD1 wouldn't boot  ... it was because I couldn't check the
> md5sum of the burned CDr. A re-d/l (torrent) of the iso cured the
> problem.  That an I've made close to a half/dozen sets of 10-CE
> CD's for other's ... and they've had no problems. Even on
> hardware I wouldn't buy.

Well, I have had problems in the past, especially with the RAID controller on 
my board, I gave up trying to use it and just disabled it.  I have a spare 
Promise EIDE controller that I popped in that works fine.  The only problem 
that I had with Mandrake 10.0 was that I had to specify ide=reverse on the 
LILO options because if I don't, Linux always reverses the IDE controller to 
make the Promise controller primary and that means that Linux boots with one 
set of drives detected and then switches them out mid boot and refuses to 
find the kernel image.  With that one option, it works great.

I had to give up on 9.2, couldn't get that version to install regardless of 
which options I specified.

> I'm just plain wrong on this. Probly why it took Warly so long
> to figure out the problem too.  As to Official, cooker updates
> have slowed to a crawl since this last weekend.  In the past
> that's a sure sign, that after a little more testing, 10-OE will
> be ready. Now whether it'll then be released right away under the
> new scheme remains to be seen.

Well, I just started looking through the instructions to build a bootable DVD 
and am planning on using the rsync directory of devel-stable, or 10.0 mirror 
to build an image with all the updates intact once it gets the blessing.  
Even if it doesn't work, it will be an interesting learning experience.
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Re: [newbie] SCO goes after the *wrong* people.

2004-03-22 Thread David Bachechi
I heard microsoft invested a lot of money into SCO.  Supposedly not for 
the purpose of going after linux users thoughyeah right..

Lanman wrote:
On face value, you'd almost think that he already works for
them, but you may be right!
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Hello Lanman,

Sunday, March 21, 2004, 3:20:12 PM, you wrote:

L> Gee Darl, Good thing you stopped marketing Caldera
Linux then isn't

L> it! But, wait just a minute? Isn't it true that Caldera
earned

L> enough money  to BUY SCO, using that big ole nasty
Open-Source

L> software? What a  friggin' hypocrit!

L> I'm tellin' ya fellow list-members, when this guy is
done, his name

L> and  reputation won't be worth diddley-squat!

He'll just go to work for M$, and will be right at home.
They LOVE

people with that kind of reputation.

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Re: [newbie] SCO goes after the *wrong* people.

2004-03-22 Thread Lanman
On face value, you'd almost think that he already works for
them, but you may be right!

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>Hello Lanman,
>
>Sunday, March 21, 2004, 3:20:12 PM, you wrote:
>
>L> Gee Darl, Good thing you stopped marketing Caldera
Linux then isn't
>L> it! But, wait just a minute? Isn't it true that Caldera
earned
>L> enough money  to BUY SCO, using that big ole nasty
Open-Source
>L> software? What a  friggin' hypocrit!
>
>L> I'm tellin' ya fellow list-members, when this guy is
done, his name
>L> and  reputation won't be worth diddley-squat!
>
>He'll just go to work for M$, and will be right at home.
They LOVE
>people with that kind of reputation.
>
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Re: [newbie] SCO goes after the *wrong* people.

2004-03-22 Thread rikona
Hello Lanman,

Sunday, March 21, 2004, 3:20:12 PM, you wrote:

L> Gee Darl, Good thing you stopped marketing Caldera Linux then isn't
L> it! But, wait just a minute? Isn't it true that Caldera earned
L> enough money  to BUY SCO, using that big ole nasty Open-Source
L> software? What a  friggin' hypocrit!

L> I'm tellin' ya fellow list-members, when this guy is done, his name
L> and  reputation won't be worth diddley-squat!

He'll just go to work for M$, and will be right at home. They LOVE
people with that kind of reputation.

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Re: [newbie] mdk 10.0 community wont boot

2004-03-22 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday 22 March 2004 08:56 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
> On Monday 22 March 2004 08:43 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > OK, then you probly need to look at the motherboard and
> > what controller it's usin to run the CD drive(s).
>
> Soyo KT400 Dragon UP.  VIA chipset and I am using onboard IDE
> controller for the DVD Burner, Primary Controller,
> Master/Single Drive.  No problem with any other bootable
> CD-ROM's.
>
> > Also the bios.
>
> Up to date per Manufacturer.
>
> > Also, it's more important to check the md5sum of the burned
> > CDr, than it is to check the d/l'd iso. 'Course both should
> > be checked and must agree.
>
> md5sum /dev/cdrom agrees with official mirror md5sum value.
>
> > It's sort'a academic now tho, Warly's found a work-around
>
> I am not complaining, I was able to install and that is what is
> important.  I suspect that if I took the CD2 iso and reworked
> it to add the RPMS files from CD1, I could make a totally
> bootable CD1.  However, I would prefer to wait for Mandrake's
> official release of 10.0 prior to attempting to roll my own
> CD's, or DVD as the case may be.

   Well, there's more goin on than I can contemplate then Bryan. 
You certainly should not have any problem with that hardware of 
yours.  I'm basing my opinions (ok, bias ;) on my experience that 
the only time during the 10.0 development process, IIRC, at 
beta1, CD1 wouldn't boot  ... it was because I couldn't check the 
md5sum of the burned CDr. A re-d/l (torrent) of the iso cured the 
problem.  That an I've made close to a half/dozen sets of 10-CE 
CD's for other's ... and they've had no problems. Even on 
hardware I wouldn't buy.

I'm just plain wrong on this. Probly why it took Warly so long 
to figure out the problem too.  As to Official, cooker updates 
have slowed to a crawl since this last weekend.  In the past 
that's a sure sign, that after a little more testing, 10-OE will 
be ready. Now whether it'll then be released right away under the 
new scheme remains to be seen.
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Re: [newbie] xml and grep

2004-03-22 Thread Marc Lijour
Here is the complete scenario:

urpmi libxslt-proc

[EMAIL PROTECTED] xmlTest]$ xsltproc trans.xsl test.xml
[EMAIL PROTECTED] xmlTest]$


It should work regardless of the position of the fax element (or rename it
as necessary).

> Help, I have my web limited by my company now, so I can't google till
> tomorrow. I need help with parsing an xml file. I need to cut out a fax
> number from the file. Easy enough I though just grep and cut the line,
> but the whole file is one line. I know this is a simple command but I
> can't work it out on my own, and with out google (strange how easy you
> get attached to things) I am stuck. Please help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony.

I do not know about cut &co (that should be possible). But the real tool
for the job is a XSLT processor!

urpmi libxslt
(urpmi libxml2 too?)

xsltproc
(read the options)


The xsl file should look like this:
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[newbie] Re: Mandrake 7.0 Error

2004-03-22 Thread Björn Lundin
Greg Meyer wrote:

> On Sunday 21 March 2004 08:32 pm, Tomy Alarie wrote:
>> Hi, i just want to know on mandrake 7, why when i try to make a boot disk
>> or install lilo it tells me : "couldn't find kernel file" ? thanks
>>
> Well, there is probably about 20 reasons, including your lilo.conf entries
> are pointing to the wrong place or your /boot partition is not mounted, so
> more info is necessary.
> 
> The $100,000 question everyone wants answered though is why on earth are
> you still using 7.0?

Proberbly because it still works. I upgraded to 9.1 on a fileserver at work
2 months ago, from 7.2. (Yes, it had scsi disks so it was ok to work with)
 The only reason for the upgrade was, I found newer hardware, and the old
Pentium I was replaced with a Pentium II (Wow :)
The new one was ok to run KDE on, so I got rid of Blackbox, which was the
only windowmanager the old pc could run, and still be usefull.

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Re: [newbie] xml and grep

2004-03-22 Thread Marc Lijour
> Help, I have my web limited by my company now, so I can't google till
> tomorrow. I need help with parsing an xml file. I need to cut out a fax
> number from the file. Easy enough I though just grep and cut the line,
> but the whole file is one line. I know this is a simple command but I
> can't work it out on my own, and with out google (strange how easy you
> get attached to things) I am stuck. Please help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony.

I do not know about cut &co (that should be possible). But the real tool
for the job is a XSLT processor!

urpmi libxslt
(urpmi libxml2 too?)

xsltproc
(read the options)


The xsl file should look like this:
---


  




>
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Re: [newbie] Are the iso's limited?

2004-03-22 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 22 Mar 2004 16:30, Paul wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 18:10, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> > On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 11:01, Paul wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 17:48, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> > > > Pardon me if I am sounding a bit paranoid but it has been a very long
> > > > weekend testing various alternatives to RedHat.  There is a lot that
> > > > I like about Mandrake but have found some things infuriating.  I
> > > > downloaded the three iso images and did not register.  I wanted to
> > > > see if our organization wanted to further investigate the Mandrake
> > > > route before investing.
> > > >
> > > > I know that the commercial packages are not available without paid
> > > > membership with Mandrake but kernel documentation and freeswan and
> > > > tripwire are certainly no commercial (well at least the gpl'd
> > > > tripwire).  What is this fourth CD? Is there some intentional
> > > > crippling for those who have not purchased a membership beyond the
> > > > commercial software / license limitations? Thanks - John
> > >
> > > All you are likely to need are on the 3 ISOs, when installing just
> > > click on 'cancel' when it asks for number 4.
> > >
> > > BTW, I'd recommend you use version 9.2 for evaluation purposes, 10 is
> > > not yet considered stable enough for commercial distribution.
> > >
> > > Paul M.
> >
> > Thanks but what if you want to install some of the packages on CD4,
> > e.g., tripwire or superfreeswan?
>
> The easiest/preferred way to install software with mandrake is using
> urpmi.
>
> If you go to the easy urpmi site at http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php
> it'll give you the necessary commands. Then when you want to add
> software use the command (e.g.)
>
> urpmi tripwire
>
> this will also take care of dependencies.
>
> Paul M
Tripwire and Super-freeswan are in the 'main'  repository. If you user the 
Easy urpmi site to choose a 'main' Cooker source you will be able to install 
them using either the GUI or urpmi from the command line.
There is a guide to using urpmi on the Mandrake Twiki. Follow my sig.

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Re: [newbie] Are the iso's limited?

2004-03-22 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 22 March 2004 10:48 am, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> I know that the commercial packages are not available without paid
> membership with Mandrake but kernel documentation and freeswan and
> tripwire are certainly no commercial (well at least the gpl'd
> tripwire).  What is this fourth CD? Is there some intentional crippling
> for those who have not purchased a membership beyond the commercial
> software / license limitations?

The fourth CD was a convenience for Club Members, but everything on it is 
available on the public ftp mirrors.  If you do not have CD4 when installing, 
you should just hit cancel at the prompt and the installer should go right 
past it and not try to install anything on it.

There is nothing on this fourth CD that is restricted from a licensing sense, 
it was just a convenience for people who supported the deistro by joining the 
club.

There is some confusion right now with respect to the ftp mirror structure and 
where the packages reside, which I think Mandrake soft is working on at the 
moment.  The stage Mandrake is at now may not be a good way to evaluate the 
product.  We are in a pre-release phase right now that is really working out 
the kinks before the distro goes gold and is sent to manufacturing.  You 
might want to install 9.2+updates for now or wait and try 10.0 when the 
official packs come out in May.  At that point, 10.0 should be very stable 
and nearly bug free. 
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Re: [newbie] mdk 10.0 community wont boot

2004-03-22 Thread dvoltin
When is the Official 10.0 Release?
> On Monday 22 March 2004 08:43 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> 
> > OK, then you probly need to look at the motherboard and what
> > controller it's usin to run the CD drive(s).  
> 
> Soyo KT400 Dragon UP.  VIA chipset and I am using onboard IDE controller for 
> the DVD Burner, Primary Controller, Master/Single Drive.  No problem with any 
> other bootable CD-ROM's.
> 
> > Also the bios. 
> 
> Up to date per Manufacturer.
> 
> > Also, it's more important to check the md5sum of the burned CDr,
> > than it is to check the d/l'd iso. 'Course both should be checked
> > and must agree.
> 
> md5sum /dev/cdrom agrees with official mirror md5sum value.
> 
> > It's sort'a academic now tho, Warly's found a work-around
> 
> I am not complaining, I was able to install and that is what is important.  I 
> suspect that if I took the CD2 iso and reworked it to add the RPMS files from 
> CD1, I could make a totally bootable CD1.  However, I would prefer to wait 
> for Mandrake's official release of 10.0 prior to attempting to roll my own 

> CD's, or DVD as the case may be.
> 
> -- 
> Bryan Phinney
> Software Test Engineer
> 

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Re: [newbie] Are the iso's limited?

2004-03-22 Thread Paul
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 18:10, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 11:01, Paul wrote:
> > On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 17:48, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> > > Pardon me if I am sounding a bit paranoid but it has been a very long
> > > weekend testing various alternatives to RedHat.  There is a lot that I
> > > like about Mandrake but have found some things infuriating.  I
> > > downloaded the three iso images and did not register.  I wanted to see
> > > if our organization wanted to further investigate the Mandrake route
> > > before investing.
> > > 
> > > I know that the commercial packages are not available without paid
> > > membership with Mandrake but kernel documentation and freeswan and
> > > tripwire are certainly no commercial (well at least the gpl'd
> > > tripwire).  What is this fourth CD? Is there some intentional crippling
> > > for those who have not purchased a membership beyond the commercial
> > > software / license limitations? Thanks - John
> > 
> > All you are likely to need are on the 3 ISOs, when installing just click
> > on 'cancel' when it asks for number 4.
> > 
> > BTW, I'd recommend you use version 9.2 for evaluation purposes, 10 is
> > not yet considered stable enough for commercial distribution.
> > 
> > Paul M.
> Thanks but what if you want to install some of the packages on CD4,
> e.g., tripwire or superfreeswan? 

The easiest/preferred way to install software with mandrake is using
urpmi.

If you go to the easy urpmi site at http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php
it'll give you the necessary commands. Then when you want to add
software use the command (e.g.) 

urpmi tripwire  

this will also take care of dependencies.

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Re: [newbie] Printer Problem

2004-03-22 Thread Matthew Harrison
Matthew Harrison wrote:

Hi all,
 On my 9.2 box, I am trying to print to a network printer.  I go 
through the MCC and try and set up the printer.  When it tries to 
configure the printer, it comes back and tells me that it Failed to 
Configure the printer.  I am at a loss, because I have had this 
printer set up before on different MDK machines with no problem, and 
there should be no difference in the way I set mine up with the way I 
set others up.  Any ideas would be welcome.

Thanks,
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Reply to my own problem here.  I just removed and reinstalled cups and 
it seems to be fine now.  Sorry about that.

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Re: [newbie] Mouse problems

2004-03-22 Thread JRH
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 06:48:30 -0500
Lee Wiggers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I plugged the offender back in to the box it
> went crazy on and, sure enough, it was unusable.
> 
> Go figure.
> 
> Lee

Hmmm..

It could well be my rodent then.

I bought it from our local Sunday market, for the equivalent of $4.00, which in the 
UK, is peanuts. I've had a good bit of service out of it till recently.. So it looks 
like it's due for replacement!

Many Thanks,

JRH

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Re: [newbie] Are the iso's limited?

2004-03-22 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 11:01, Paul wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 17:48, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> > Pardon me if I am sounding a bit paranoid but it has been a very long
> > weekend testing various alternatives to RedHat.  There is a lot that I
> > like about Mandrake but have found some things infuriating.  I
> > downloaded the three iso images and did not register.  I wanted to see
> > if our organization wanted to further investigate the Mandrake route
> > before investing.
> > 
> > I've had grief installing various packages as it looked for CD4 out the
> > three CD's.
> > 
> > When attempting to update, I could not connect and, upon further
> > investigation, found that this was due to typographical errors in the
> > update source paths from the Mandrake installation.
> > 
> > I've finally gotten everything I need but it was a maddening process of
> > figuring out how to use the source configurator and then downloading
> > everything that was supposedly on  CD4 from the ftp sites.
> > 
> > I know that the commercial packages are not available without paid
> > membership with Mandrake but kernel documentation and freeswan and
> > tripwire are certainly no commercial (well at least the gpl'd
> > tripwire).  What is this fourth CD? Is there some intentional crippling
> > for those who have not purchased a membership beyond the commercial
> > software / license limitations? Thanks - John
> 
> All you are likely to need are on the 3 ISOs, when installing just click
> on 'cancel' when it asks for number 4.
> 
> BTW, I'd recommend you use version 9.2 for evaluation purposes, 10 is
> not yet considered stable enough for commercial distribution.
> 
> Paul M.
Thanks but what if you want to install some of the packages on CD4,
e.g., tripwire or superfreeswan? 
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Re: [newbie] Are the iso's limited?

2004-03-22 Thread Paul
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 17:48, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> Pardon me if I am sounding a bit paranoid but it has been a very long
> weekend testing various alternatives to RedHat.  There is a lot that I
> like about Mandrake but have found some things infuriating.  I
> downloaded the three iso images and did not register.  I wanted to see
> if our organization wanted to further investigate the Mandrake route
> before investing.
> 
> I've had grief installing various packages as it looked for CD4 out the
> three CD's.
> 
> When attempting to update, I could not connect and, upon further
> investigation, found that this was due to typographical errors in the
> update source paths from the Mandrake installation.
> 
> I've finally gotten everything I need but it was a maddening process of
> figuring out how to use the source configurator and then downloading
> everything that was supposedly on  CD4 from the ftp sites.
> 
> I know that the commercial packages are not available without paid
> membership with Mandrake but kernel documentation and freeswan and
> tripwire are certainly no commercial (well at least the gpl'd
> tripwire).  What is this fourth CD? Is there some intentional crippling
> for those who have not purchased a membership beyond the commercial
> software / license limitations? Thanks - John

All you are likely to need are on the 3 ISOs, when installing just click
on 'cancel' when it asks for number 4.

BTW, I'd recommend you use version 9.2 for evaluation purposes, 10 is
not yet considered stable enough for commercial distribution.

Paul M.

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Re: [newbie] Guide to Linux File Command Mastery

2004-03-22 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 09:55, JoeHill wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:43:16 +0700
> Fajar Priyanto disseminated the following:
> 
> > > Looks like a pretty good intro to command line file manipulation and
> > > processing:
> > >
> > > http://otn.oracle.com/pub/articles/calish_file_commands.html
> > >
> > > ...and from Oracle, no less :-)
> > Thanks Joe.
> > It's great.
> 
> One note, there is a link on the page, to the left, 'printer view'. Save the
> printer-friendly page, then:
> 
> htmldoc --webpage -f .pdf .html
> 
> ...and you have yourself an always-ready PDF version, even print it out if ya
> want.

Muito obrigado, Dr. Joe Hill !

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Re: [newbie] Monitor in sleep mode.

2004-03-22 Thread Dan Gordon
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 22:16:34 +0700
Fajar Priyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Is this happening in a fix interval, say when you leave your box
> untouched for about 15 minutes, etc? Or randomly?
> Have you checked in Configuration>KDE>Power Control?
> - -- 
 
Yes its definetly in a fixed interval but is a longer time than 15
minutes, more like an hour but I'm not sure exactly. I have turned off
power control in kde both as user and in root.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Successful boot yet failure to find CD-ROM files

2004-03-22 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 21 March 2004 11:11 pm, John A. Sullivan III wrote:

>>> whack

> My apologies if this has already been asked.  I did not see a way to
> search the archives late than 2003-11.  How does one search the most
> current postings to this mail list?
>
> Thanks, all - John

John:

This source archives a great many mail lists (and well worth bookmarking):
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/

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[newbie] Are the iso's limited?

2004-03-22 Thread John A. Sullivan III
Pardon me if I am sounding a bit paranoid but it has been a very long
weekend testing various alternatives to RedHat.  There is a lot that I
like about Mandrake but have found some things infuriating.  I
downloaded the three iso images and did not register.  I wanted to see
if our organization wanted to further investigate the Mandrake route
before investing.

I've had grief installing various packages as it looked for CD4 out the
three CD's.

When attempting to update, I could not connect and, upon further
investigation, found that this was due to typographical errors in the
update source paths from the Mandrake installation.

I've finally gotten everything I need but it was a maddening process of
figuring out how to use the source configurator and then downloading
everything that was supposedly on  CD4 from the ftp sites.

I know that the commercial packages are not available without paid
membership with Mandrake but kernel documentation and freeswan and
tripwire are certainly no commercial (well at least the gpl'd
tripwire).  What is this fourth CD? Is there some intentional crippling
for those who have not purchased a membership beyond the commercial
software / license limitations? Thanks - John
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Re: [newbie] Monitor in sleep mode.

2004-03-22 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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>
> Fajar Priyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Uumm... how about in BIOS?
> > - --
>
> Have checked in BIOS, i should mention that this is 9.2.
> For the life of me I can not find out where the monitor is being put on
> standby.
>
> Regards,
> Dan Gordon
Is this happening in a fix interval, say when you leave your box untouched for 
about 15 minutes, etc? Or randomly?
Have you checked in Configuration>KDE>Power Control?
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[newbie] Printer Problem

2004-03-22 Thread Matthew Harrison
Hi all,
 On my 9.2 box, I am trying to print to a network printer.  I go 
through the MCC and try and set up the printer.  When it tries to 
configure the printer, it comes back and tells me that it Failed to 
Configure the printer.  I am at a loss, because I have had this printer 
set up before on different MDK machines with no problem, and there 
should be no difference in the way I set mine up with the way I set 
others up.  Any ideas would be welcome.

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] mdk 10.0 community wont boot

2004-03-22 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 22 March 2004 08:43 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:

> OK, then you probly need to look at the motherboard and what
> controller it's usin to run the CD drive(s).  

Soyo KT400 Dragon UP.  VIA chipset and I am using onboard IDE controller for 
the DVD Burner, Primary Controller, Master/Single Drive.  No problem with any 
other bootable CD-ROM's.

> Also the bios. 

Up to date per Manufacturer.

> Also, it's more important to check the md5sum of the burned CDr,
> than it is to check the d/l'd iso. 'Course both should be checked
> and must agree.

md5sum /dev/cdrom agrees with official mirror md5sum value.

> It's sort'a academic now tho, Warly's found a work-around

I am not complaining, I was able to install and that is what is important.  I 
suspect that if I took the CD2 iso and reworked it to add the RPMS files from 
CD1, I could make a totally bootable CD1.  However, I would prefer to wait 
for Mandrake's official release of 10.0 prior to attempting to roll my own 
CD's, or DVD as the case may be.

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Re: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 22 March 2004 08:54 am, Tavazzani Paolo wrote:

> The main problem I have is that if I launch Partition Magic from XP, PM
> shwos for disk 2 with a single partition and says it is a damaged one. I
> suspect some partition overlap but I'm not sure on how to move

The problem is with Partition Magic, I think that the newer versions may work 
better but from previous experience, the older versions don't work well with 
certain Linux partitions.  

If you really must use a Windows tool for partitions, you might consider 
getting Paragon Partition Manager.  It is a superior tool, IMHO, and will 
happily copy, format, move, extend all Linux partitions that I have ever run 
into including ReiserFS, EXT3, 2, etc.  It also will not report the erroneous 
error messages that you are currently seeing.
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[newbie] xml and grep

2004-03-22 Thread Tony S. Sykes
Help, I have my web limited by my company now, so I can't google till tomorrow. I need 
help with parsing an xml file. I need to cut out a fax number from the file. Easy 
enough I though just grep and cut the line, but the whole file is one line. I know 
this is a simple command but I can't work it out on my own, and with out google 
(strange how easy you get attached to things) I am stuck. Please help.

Thanks,

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[newbie] xml and grep

2004-03-22 Thread Tony S. Sykes
Help, I have my web limited by my company now, so I can't google till tomorrow. I need 
help with parsing an xml file. I need to cut out a fax number from the file. Easy 
enough I though just grep and cut the line, but the whole file is one line. I know 
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Re: [newbie] Re: Bounce when mailing to newbie list?

2004-03-22 Thread magnet
just my quick test. I've not been getting any mail from here for a few weeks 
and it's only just started to arrive this last couple of days.

On Sunday 21 Mar 2004 9:06 pm, Björn Lundin wrote:
> Philip Cronje wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 21:05:59 +0100, Björn Lundin
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hello!
> >> Why do I get a reply like this when posting to the list?
> >> The post did show up (This was my reply to Anne in the
> >> 'is there an easy way to Samba'-thread
> >>
> >> /Björn
> >
> > You can ignore (read: delete) these without any worries. We're all
> > getting them. :P
>
> Strange behaviour? But good to know. Then I don't need to talk to my ISP
> again, I had some trouble getting any mail out a while ago.
>
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RE: [newbie] MDk10CE, KDE 3.2 and no sound

2004-03-22 Thread Sweeney, Stephen
I did do an update immediately... But it was a "selective" update. I didn't
do things like Apache. Tonight I may well do the whole lot just to be on the
safe side.

-Original Message-
From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 1:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] MDk10CE, KDE 3.2 and no sound


On Monday 22 March 2004 04:36 am, Sweeney, Stephen wrote:
> (sorry if this comes out a bit long, but I'd like to make sure that 
> I've explained everything).
>
> On the weekend I installed Mandrake 10 (install, not update). Install 
> went fine. I then booted into KDE 3.2. It hung leaving the Mandrake 
> wallpaper in the background. I tried again, this time I got a warning 
> about Knotify not starting and asking me if I wanted to disable it. I 
> did and it still hung. I then went into IceWM, fired up Kcontrol and 
> turned off the sound in KDE (can't remember how I came to this 
> conclusion).
>
Have you applied any updates to the original install of 10.0.  OIIRC, there 
were a bunch of things fixed related to the arts soundeserver and OSS 
emulation.  You should update before spending a lot of time because whatever

you are running into may have been fixed.
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RE: [newbie] MDK 10 and Drakconnect

2004-03-22 Thread andrew . lundy
If you have problems try it this way...

- Firmware (mgmt.o) in /usr/share/speedtouch/ (ALREADY DONE) 
- Run through dragconnect wizard and put all your ISP details in (PROBABLY
ALREADY DONE)
- Goto command line and type: /usr/share/speedtouch/speedtouch.sh start
- ('/usr/share/speedtouch/speedtouch.sh stop' to close connection)

I can't connect directly through the wizard, but it always works from the
command line.


-Original Message-
From: JRH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 March 2004 13:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] MDK 10 and Drakconnect


Lee,

I have since upgraded from 9.2 to 10, and it shouldnt have really changed
things much. However, I have my connection set to start at boot, both green
lights began to flash on my modem, (as is normal), and then the ADSL light
went yellow, and that was it, a failure message.

I'm going to try setting it up with the Speedtouch package from the 9.2
Distro. The modem firmware code is the same as I have always used.

Like you said, 9.2 is now history on this box. so if I cant get things
to go my way, I'll reinstall 9.2, and let a Linux guru buddy of mine have a
play with it at a later date.

James Hill
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] MDK 10 and Drakconnect


> On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:44:36 +
> JRH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm currently downloading Mandrake 10.
> >
> > I downloaded and Installed Mandrake 10 RC1 a while back, and had
> > some issues with Drakconnect, and my USB ADSL modem.
> >
> > The problem I had, was that unlike Mandrake 9.2, the auto
> > detection wizard just wouldnt set the modem up properly. For
> > example, the wizard would bring up a list, asking me to choose my
> > ADSL provider. There was only 2 UK providers on the list, not one
> > of them being my provider!. This, coupled with other problems,
> > made for a non working internet connection, and it was
> > uninstalled, and I went back to 9.2.
> >
> > Does anybody here have any experience of the Alcatel Speedtouch
> > 330 USB ADSL modem and Mandrake 10?. Can someone offer a step by
> > step guide to installation and config? (I have the modem firmware
> > code, so dont tell me I havent installed that!)
> >
> > Many Thanks,
> >
> > James Hill
> >
> >
> >
> Before you leave 9.2 get a list of your drivers that are working.
> You can choose them manually if the automagic install picks the
> wrong ones.
>
> Happened to me when it was already too late (9.2 was history on that
> box)  I had to find someone with the same setup.  He listed his
> config and I was running in minutes.
>
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RE: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Tony S. Sykes
Paolo,

PM reports this error when it is not really an error. You will always get it. (Have a 
look in the archives as there was a big discussion on this a while back). If you want 
to re-install Linux just put CD 1 in the drive and start again. My personal opinion is 
to not use PM at all. You can do all the partitioning through diskdrake. If you are 
happy with the current partition table you can just install over the top of the old 
install. As for the MBR I will leave that to one of my more knowledgeable list friends 
to answer as I never have had to deal with it.

Tony.

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Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says
that the partition di damaged


Hi Tony,
thanks for the suggestion.
I must admit that, having installed the Linux partition just yesterday I could loose 
it and re-install without too many troubles.

What I'm worried about is that, if PM is right, something crazy like a partition 
overlapping has happened and I could end up, when filling one of the two partitions, 
with trashing the other one and loosing some meaningful data.

BTW, how have you solved the problem?
While we are at it, If I should decide to re-install Linux from scratch, which is the 
best way to get rid of LILO and reset the XP boot process? Are the XP utilities to fix 
MBR OK?

Thanks
Paolo

-Original Message-
From: Tony S. Sykes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: lunedà 22 marzo 2004 15.03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says
that the partition di damaged


Paolo,

Ignore the error message from PM, if you try and fix it you can hose your Linux 
installation (I did a long time ago).

Tony.

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Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 1:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says
that the partition di damaged


Hi all,
Sorry if I re-post, but the original message had no subject :-( 

I've just installed Mandrake 10.0 on my PC.
The system has two disks, on disk 1 I just left the original Windows Xp partition, on 
disk 2 (bigger and faster) I have freed some 11gb from XP with Partition Magic.

I've installed Mandrake 10.0 in expert mode, I got it to install in the free space, 
making two partitions: one of 10gb for '/' and a 1gb swap partition. Result after 
partitioning: 70GB NTFS - 10GB Ext3 - 1GB Swap

Installation went OK.

Now I can access with LILO both the XP installation and the Mandrake one and 
everything works fine.

The main problem I have is that if I launch Partition Magic from XP, PM shwos for disk 
2 with a single partition and says it is a damaged one. I suspect some partition 
overlap but I'm not sure on how to move

Any suggestion?

Thanks




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Re: [newbie] Guide to Linux File Command Mastery

2004-03-22 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Monday 22 March 2004 07:55 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> One note, there is a link on the page, to the left, 'printer view'. Save
> the printer-friendly page, then:
>
> htmldoc --webpage -f .pdf .html
>
> ...and you have yourself an always-ready PDF version, even print it out if
> ya want.

This reminds me one thing. The copy paste from Konqueror to OO writer is not 
so good. They miss the hyperlink and all the image. When I can save the html 
directly I do it, but for some dynamic pages I just can't do it. Well, 
usually this one requires the job of MS IE and Word.

Any work around here?
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RE: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Tavazzani Paolo
Hi Tony,
thanks for the suggestion.
I must admit that, having installed the Linux partition just yesterday I could loose 
it and re-install without too many troubles.

What I'm worried about is that, if PM is right, something crazy like a partition 
overlapping has happened and I could end up, when filling one of the two partitions, 
with trashing the other one and loosing some meaningful data.

BTW, how have you solved the problem?
While we are at it, If I should decide to re-install Linux from scratch, which is the 
best way to get rid of LILO and reset the XP boot process? Are the XP utilities to fix 
MBR OK?

Thanks
Paolo

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From: Tony S. Sykes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: lunedì 22 marzo 2004 15.03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says
that the partition di damaged


Paolo,

Ignore the error message from PM, if you try and fix it you can hose your Linux 
installation (I did a long time ago).

Tony.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tavazzani Paolo
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 1:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says
that the partition di damaged


Hi all,
Sorry if I re-post, but the original message had no subject :-( 

I've just installed Mandrake 10.0 on my PC.
The system has two disks, on disk 1 I just left the original Windows Xp partition, on 
disk 2 (bigger and faster) I have freed some 11gb from XP with Partition Magic.

I've installed Mandrake 10.0 in expert mode, I got it to install in the free space, 
making two partitions: one of 10gb for '/' and a 1gb swap partition. Result after 
partitioning: 70GB NTFS - 10GB Ext3 - 1GB Swap

Installation went OK.

Now I can access with LILO both the XP installation and the Mandrake one and 
everything works fine.

The main problem I have is that if I launch Partition Magic from XP, PM shwos for disk 
2 with a single partition and says it is a damaged one. I suspect some partition 
overlap but I'm not sure on how to move

Any suggestion?

Thanks




Paolo Tavazzani
Fastweb S.p.A.
Via Caracciolo 51
20155 Milano
Phone:  +39 02 4545 4892
Mobile: +39 348 3673 626
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RE: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Tony S. Sykes
Paolo,

Ignore the error message from PM, if you try and fix it you can hose your Linux 
installation (I did a long time ago).

Tony.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tavazzani Paolo
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 1:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says
that the partition di damaged


Hi all,
Sorry if I re-post, but the original message had no subject :-( 

I've just installed Mandrake 10.0 on my PC.
The system has two disks, on disk 1 I just left the original Windows Xp partition, on 
disk 2 (bigger and faster) I have freed some 11gb from XP with Partition Magic.

I've installed Mandrake 10.0 in expert mode, I got it to install in the free space, 
making two partitions: one of 10gb for '/' and a 1gb swap partition. Result after 
partitioning: 70GB NTFS - 10GB Ext3 - 1GB Swap

Installation went OK.

Now I can access with LILO both the XP installation and the Mandrake one and 
everything works fine.

The main problem I have is that if I launch Partition Magic from XP, PM shwos for disk 
2 with a single partition and says it is a damaged one. I suspect some partition 
overlap but I'm not sure on how to move

Any suggestion?

Thanks




Paolo Tavazzani
Fastweb S.p.A.
Via Caracciolo 51
20155 Milano
Phone:  +39 02 4545 4892
Mobile: +39 348 3673 626
Fax:+39 02 4545 4811
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[newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Tavazzani Paolo
Hi all,
Sorry if I re-post, but the original message had no subject :-( 

I've just installed Mandrake 10.0 on my PC.
The system has two disks, on disk 1 I just left the original Windows Xp partition, on 
disk 2 (bigger and faster) I have freed some 11gb from XP with Partition Magic.

I've installed Mandrake 10.0 in expert mode, I got it to install in the free space, 
making two partitions: one of 10gb for '/' and a 1gb swap partition. Result after 
partitioning: 70GB NTFS - 10GB Ext3 - 1GB Swap

Installation went OK.

Now I can access with LILO both the XP installation and the Mandrake one and 
everything works fine.

The main problem I have is that if I launch Partition Magic from XP, PM shwos for disk 
2 with a single partition and says it is a damaged one. I suspect some partition 
overlap but I'm not sure on how to move

Any suggestion?

Thanks




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Re: [newbie] Successful boot yet failure to find CD-ROM files

2004-03-22 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 08:14, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Monday 22 Mar 2004 11:23, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> > On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 04:52, Derek Jennings wrote:
> > > On Monday 22 Mar 2004 04:11, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> > > > I needed to rebuild one of our test security gateways and after
> > > > experimenting with RedHat, Debian and Slackware, I wanted to give
> > > > Mandrake 10.0 a try.  I was initially very impressed but I am having a
> > > > devil of a time just installing.
> > > >
> > > > The test device is an old e-machines 400Mhz Celeron with 64 MB Ram and
> > > > a 6.4 GB hard drive.  I can successfully install RedHat and Debian from
> > > > CD.
> > > >
> > > > I first tried a CDROM install using the ISO images I downloaded and
> > > > burned.  The system booted perfectly fine but when it tried to access
> > > > files on the CDROM, I generated the following errors:
> > > > <4>hdc: SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-140, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
> > > > .
> > > > .
> > > > .
> > > > <4>hdc: ATAPI 40x CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, DMA
> > > > <6>Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
> > > > <5>SCSI subsystem initialized
> > > > <4>hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > > > <4>hdc: command error: error=0x50
> > > > <4>end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 64
> > > > <4>isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16
> > > >
> > > > I thought it might be a bad CD even though it appeared to work when I
> > > > tried it on a different computer.  I did find that if I booted the test
> > > > computer into the current Debian installation, I could not manually
> > > > mount the CD.  So I downloaded the ISO again from a different site,
> > > > checked the MD5 checksum and burned a new CD.  Same results.
> > > >
> > > > Based upon some other information I found, I tried booting from CD2
> > > > instead -- same results.
> > > >
> > > > I tried a text installation -- same results.
> > > >
> > > > I then thought I'd mount the CD on a different computer and do an NFS
> > > > installation.  That started to work but, after a while, it aborted with
> > > > a signal 7.
> > > >
> > > > I tried an NFS installation in text mode -- it made it 60+% of the way
> > > > and then aborted with a signal 7 error.
> > > >
> > > > So far I am striking out even though it appears that one of Mandrake's
> > > > features is ease of installation.  Oh, I also tried cleaning the CD
> > > > lens in case it was dirty.  Same problem.  Can someone tell me what I
> > > > am doing wrong? I'd really like to give Mandrake a try.
> > > >
> > > > My apologies if this has already been asked.  I did not see a way to
> > > > search the archives late than 2003-11.  How does one search the most
> > > > current postings to this mail list?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, all - John
> > >
> > > Try booting from CD2 and then switch back to CD1 when it asks for the
> > > disc http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/errata.php3
> > >
> > > Bear in mind this is the "Community edition" which means there are still
> > > bugs to be ironed out before 10,0 "Official" is released. Having said
> > > that, my own experience is that 10.0 is very solid and stable. I hope you
> > > like it :-)
> > >
> > > derek
> >
> > Nope - tried that and it didn't work.  I suspect it may have something
> > to do with the 2.6 kernel as all of the error messages I saw in Google
> > relating to the specific error message appear to be about the 2.6x
> > kernel.  I found the alternate images to boot from floppy using the
> > 2.4.25 kernel but that didn't work either.
> >
> > Thanks anyway.  Any other thoughts or work-arounds? - John
> 
> Follow up to my last post :-
> Before you try an FTP install you might like to try booting from a boot floppy 
> made with the "cdrom.img" from the Cooker/Stable mirror.  A new cdrom.img 
> went on the mirrors on 19th March. It is possible it might help with your 
> problem.
> 
> Another workaround might be to boot with one of the alternate images on your 
> CDs
> When you first boot from CD1 hit F1 (or Esc I can never remember which) and at 
> the prompt enter 'alt1'  That will boot you with the 2.2 Boot kernel. Any 
> PCMCIA devices will not be detected, but it will install the 2.6 kernel which 
> will run at the end of the install process.
> 
> derek

Thanks for the suggestions.  This seems to be something either Mandrake
of kernel specific.

I did try installing from boot floppy and then CD - it still could not
find the CD.

I eventually copied the CDs to another workstation and did an NFS
install.  That worked but I still cannot mount any CD including ones
that I know mounted under Debian and RedHat.

I'm also having trouble with some packages such as the kernel docs,
mandrake docs, tripwire, superfreeswan, etc.  They are asking for a CD4
yet there were only three iso images.  What is this fourth CD? 

At this point, for the sake of time, I'm thinking of heading back to
RedHat.  Thanks - John
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[newbie]

2004-03-22 Thread Tavazzani Paolo
Hi all,
I've just installed Mandrake 10.0 on my PC.
The system has two disks, on disk 1 I just left the original Windows Xp partition, on 
disk 2 (bigger and faster) I have freed some 11gb from XP with Partition Magic.

I've installed Mandrake 10.0 in expert mode, I got it to install in the free space, 
making two partitions: one of 10gb for '/' and a 1gb swap partition. Result after 
partitioning: 70GB NTFS - 10GB Ext3 - 1GB Swap

Installation went OK.

Now I can access with LILO both the XP installation and the Mandrake one and 
everything works fine.

The main problem I have is that if I launch Partition Magic from XP, PM shwos for disk 
2 with a single partition and says it is a damaged one. I suspect some partition 
overlap but I'm not sure on how to move

Any suggestion?

Thanks




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Re: [newbie] mdk 10.0 community wont boot

2004-03-22 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday 21 March 2004 11:11 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
> On Sunday 21 March 2004 09:53 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> >  Like the 9.2 LG cdrom deal, It's not Mandrake that's
> > broken, it's some CD drives that aren't quite right.  Not
> > checking the md5sum of the iso, and then also from the burned
> > CDr also contributes to the problem.  It's also not clear to
> > me if people who experience this problem have tried booting
> > CD1 from both their CDrom and CD-RW drives.  From the CD-RW
> > would be the preferred IMO, and from a CDr, not cd-rw media.
>
> Well, I burned the CD on my Plextor PX-708a.  I tried to boot
> CD1 from that same drive and it would not boot.  CD2 does.  I
> confirmed the md5 and the sums match reported values.  The same
> Mandrake CD1 will boot from an older CD-ROM drive.  My Plextor
> DVD Burner would probably not fall into the realm of cheap
> hardware.  So, I don't think that this is totally md5 sum or
> improper burning related.  I suspect that there is some minor
> anomaly in the iso image that is being spotted by newer or
> better CD devices but ignored by older ones.

OK, then you probly need to look at the motherboard and what 
controller it's usin to run the CD drive(s).  Also the bios.
Also, it's more important to check the md5sum of the burned CDr, 
than it is to check the d/l'd iso. 'Course both should be checked 
and must agree.

It's sort'a academic now tho, Warly's found a work-around

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Re: [newbie] Monitor in sleep mode.

2004-03-22 Thread Dan Gordon
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:53:46 +0700
Fajar Priyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Uumm... how about in BIOS?
> - -- 

Have checked in BIOS, i should mention that this is 9.2.
For the life of me I can not find out where the monitor is being put on
standby.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.0 Error

2004-03-22 Thread frankieh
Fajar Priyanto wrote:

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On Monday 22 March 2004 08:57 am, Greg Meyer wrote:

On Sunday 21 March 2004 08:32 pm, Tomy Alarie wrote:

Hi, i just want to know on mandrake 7, why when i try to make a boot disk
or install lilo it tells me : "couldn't find kernel file" ? thanks
Well, there is probably about 20 reasons, including your lilo.conf entries
are pointing to the wrong place or your /boot partition is not mounted, so
more info is necessary.
The $100,000 question everyone wants answered though is why on earth are
you still using 7.0?


LOL, very interesting indeed.
Even my first encounter with mdk was 8.0.
Wasn't mdk 7.0 one of the last ones that would run on a 486???
That might be the reason certainly..
I don't know that I'd risk it nowdays though.. at least not on anything 
connected to the internet.

rgds

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Re: [newbie] Gateway BURN IN HELL!! RANT Kind of long

2004-03-22 Thread franki
anton wrote:

Lee Wiggers wrote:



may they all die, like all furry aussie animals destroying NZs beautiful 
and unique nature!
Anton the kiwi who won't be for much longer...
ps. Yes, we do have them, what's more, we have/had a species that is 
extinct in Aussie! And we graciously gave them to you instead of killing 
them all! What have you done for us lately? Eh?



We gave you tasmania,

The only place on earth that paints New Zealanders in a good light..  :-)

After all, its so close to NZ,  and the people act so much like Kiwis, 
that its often hard to tell them apart.

The only difference is that in Tasmania,  not only is not not bad to 
marry your sister and procreate, its encouraged and is a statewide 
pasttime...  (always count the number of fingers and toes on a tasmanian 
girl before getting naughty with her. :-)

LOL, sorry, but had to come up with something in response to a question 
like that..

rgds

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Re: [newbie] Opening terminal adds users

2004-03-22 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 22 March 2004 12:39 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

> Chris - every time you open a term - or whatever - you start another
> process that has your name on it - so, if you open twenty terms, you'll
> find twenty references to YOU...does that make sense?

Chris and I talked a little about this.  On my 9.1 system, every time I start 
a new konsole it creates a new user, however, when I "exit" the konsole, it 
removes the additional user.  It is not doing that on his system, it is 
leaving the user session active even after he exits from the konsole.  I 
don't think that is normal behavior, at least, it is not normal on my 9.1 
system.

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Re: [newbie] Successful boot yet failure to find CD-ROM files

2004-03-22 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 04:52, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Monday 22 Mar 2004 04:11, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> > I needed to rebuild one of our test security gateways and after
> > experimenting with RedHat, Debian and Slackware, I wanted to give
> > Mandrake 10.0 a try.  I was initially very impressed but I am having a
> > devil of a time just installing.
> >
> > The test device is an old e-machines 400Mhz Celeron with 64 MB Ram and a
> > 6.4 GB hard drive.  I can successfully install RedHat and Debian from
> > CD.
> >
> > I first tried a CDROM install using the ISO images I downloaded and
> > burned.  The system booted perfectly fine but when it tried to access
> > files on the CDROM, I generated the following errors:
> > <4>hdc: SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-140, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > <4>hdc: ATAPI 40x CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, DMA
> > <6>Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
> > <5>SCSI subsystem initialized
> > <4>hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > <4>hdc: command error: error=0x50
> > <4>end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 64
> > <4>isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16
> >
> > I thought it might be a bad CD even though it appeared to work when I
> > tried it on a different computer.  I did find that if I booted the test
> > computer into the current Debian installation, I could not manually
> > mount the CD.  So I downloaded the ISO again from a different site,
> > checked the MD5 checksum and burned a new CD.  Same results.
> >
> > Based upon some other information I found, I tried booting from CD2
> > instead -- same results.
> >
> > I tried a text installation -- same results.
> >
> > I then thought I'd mount the CD on a different computer and do an NFS
> > installation.  That started to work but, after a while, it aborted with
> > a signal 7.
> >
> > I tried an NFS installation in text mode -- it made it 60+% of the way
> > and then aborted with a signal 7 error.
> >
> > So far I am striking out even though it appears that one of Mandrake's
> > features is ease of installation.  Oh, I also tried cleaning the CD lens
> > in case it was dirty.  Same problem.  Can someone tell me what I am
> > doing wrong? I'd really like to give Mandrake a try.
> >
> > My apologies if this has already been asked.  I did not see a way to
> > search the archives late than 2003-11.  How does one search the most
> > current postings to this mail list?
> >
> > Thanks, all - John
> 
> Try booting from CD2 and then switch back to CD1 when it asks for the disc
> http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/errata.php3
> 
> Bear in mind this is the "Community edition" which means there are still bugs 
> to be ironed out before 10,0 "Official" is released. Having said that, my own 
> experience is that 10.0 is very solid and stable. I hope you like it :-)
> 
> derek
Nope - tried that and it didn't work.  I suspect it may have something
to do with the 2.6 kernel as all of the error messages I saw in Google
relating to the specific error message appear to be about the 2.6x
kernel.  I found the alternate images to boot from floppy using the
2.4.25 kernel but that didn't work either.

Thanks anyway.  Any other thoughts or work-arounds? - John
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[newbie] Mouse problems

2004-03-22 Thread JRH
Hi All,

I have a problem

Every now and then, my mouse pointer will go totally mental, flying round the 
screen, opening up applications, minimizing windows, and generally doing it's 
own thing.

Is this a problem with Linux or a hardware issue? I have a windows partition, 
and not once have I had the problem whilst running in windows.

Any Ideas?

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[newbie] Insitu upgrade from 9.2 to 10

2004-03-22 Thread Oliver Marshall
Has anyone done an upgrade from 9.2 to 10 ? I have a box here that I use
as a desktop machine (so OpenOffice, Firefox etc) as well as a test
server to tinker with (irc, ssh, samba etc). I want to upgrade it to 10
from 9.2, but im worried it will bugger it totally, and that some of the
stuff wont work after. I'm a noob, so I would be outta my depth if it
busted it.

Anyone got any words of wisdom on the best way of upgrading so that
everything was still there and in one piece after ?

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RE: [newbie] MDk10CE, KDE 3.2 and no sound

2004-03-22 Thread Sweeney, Stephen
Well, hey... If I can get KDE 3.2 working with sound on Mandrake 9.2 then I
will do that instead... 

Could anyone advise me? Does XMMS, Mplayer and other sound apps play well
with MDK9.2 and KDE 3.2?

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Subject: Re: [newbie] MDk10CE, KDE 3.2 and no sound


On Monday 22 Mar 2004 09:36, Sweeney, Stephen wrote:

Hear Hear Stephen!

I'm having exactly the same problem! amongst others.. at the moment, 9.2

looks an increasingly better option :-)

JRH


> (sorry if this comes out a bit long, but I'd like to make sure that 
> I've explained everything).
>
> On the weekend I installed Mandrake 10 (install, not update). Install 
> went fine. I then booted into KDE 3.2. It hung leaving the Mandrake 
> wallpaper in the background. I tried again, this time I got a warning 
> about Knotify not starting and asking me if I wanted to disable it. I 
> did and it still hung. I then went into IceWM, fired up Kcontrol and 
> turned off the sound in KDE (can't remember how I came to this 
> conclusion).
>
> So now KDE loads. That's good. The trouble is that there are a number 
> of apps that now will not support sound. I have tried setting KDE to 
> use OSS and Threaded OSS and, although it will still load fine, I 
> still can't get sound from the apps I want to use. In particular I'm 
> having problems with,
>
> 1) XMMS - This one is strange. With ALSA it will not play. With OSS it 
> will continually loop the first 1 second or so of the song until I hit 
> stop.
>
> 2) Mplayer - Will play most movie files fine, but if you exit half way 
> through the sound will loop around for around 5 seconds before 
> stopping.
>
> 3) SDL game (not tried others) - There is no sound whatsoever. I tried 
> recompiling the projects I'm working on and they simply can't get 
> access to the sound.
>
> I know my hardware is compatible (Sony VIAO laptop) as I have been 
> using MDK9 on it for over a year.
>
> Anyone got any suggestions, fixes, etc? It's very frustrating have all 
> the benefits of the new KDE and general speed of everything but with 
> such a let down in the sound department.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve :|
>
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[newbie] Error when issuing commands from console

2004-03-22 Thread Oliver Marshall
Hi,

I have an odd error that has started happening over the weekend. When I
issue certain commands, URPMI being one of them, I get the following
output.

/usr/bin/perl: error while loading shared libraries:
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/libperl.so: unexpected
reloc type 0x58

I have tried to reinstall the rpm that provides libperl.so using the RPM
command rather than URPMI but it keeps telling me its already install
and wont allow me to reinstall.

Any ideas how to fix this as its really limiting my usage (only have ssh
access to that box)

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] MDk10CE, KDE 3.2 and no sound

2004-03-22 Thread JRH
On Monday 22 Mar 2004 09:36, Sweeney, Stephen wrote:

Hear Hear Stephen!

I'm having exactly the same problem! amongst others.. at the moment, 9.2 
looks an increasingly better option :-)

JRH


> (sorry if this comes out a bit long, but I'd like to make sure that I've
> explained everything).
>
> On the weekend I installed Mandrake 10 (install, not update). Install went
> fine. I then booted into KDE 3.2. It hung leaving the Mandrake wallpaper in
> the background. I tried again, this time I got a warning about Knotify not
> starting and asking me if I wanted to disable it. I did and it still hung.
> I then went into IceWM, fired up Kcontrol and turned off the sound in KDE
> (can't remember how I came to this conclusion).
>
> So now KDE loads. That's good. The trouble is that there are a number of
> apps that now will not support sound. I have tried setting KDE to use OSS
> and Threaded OSS and, although it will still load fine, I still can't get
> sound from the apps I want to use. In particular I'm having problems with,
>
> 1) XMMS - This one is strange. With ALSA it will not play. With OSS it will
> continually loop the first 1 second or so of the song until I hit stop.
>
> 2) Mplayer - Will play most movie files fine, but if you exit half way
> through the sound will loop around for around 5 seconds before stopping.
>
> 3) SDL game (not tried others) - There is no sound whatsoever. I tried
> recompiling the projects I'm working on and they simply can't get access to
> the sound.
>
> I know my hardware is compatible (Sony VIAO laptop) as I have been using
> MDK9 on it for over a year.
>
> Anyone got any suggestions, fixes, etc? It's very frustrating have all the
> benefits of the new KDE and general speed of everything but with such a let
> down in the sound department.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve :|
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[newbie] M10's CD1

2004-03-22 Thread John Richard Smith
Is there any likelyhood of a fix for M10's CD1 boot problem being
available anytime soon.
I have to begin again on CD1 as my md5sums failed, so would
be intersted in getting a repaired CD1 as the next download instead of
the existing one, which will not be for a few days .
So if there is any possibility of getting the fixed CD1 I will wait.

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[newbie] MDk10CE, KDE 3.2 and no sound

2004-03-22 Thread Sweeney, Stephen
(sorry if this comes out a bit long, but I'd like to make sure that I've
explained everything).

On the weekend I installed Mandrake 10 (install, not update). Install went
fine. I then booted into KDE 3.2. It hung leaving the Mandrake wallpaper in
the background. I tried again, this time I got a warning about Knotify not
starting and asking me if I wanted to disable it. I did and it still hung. I
then went into IceWM, fired up Kcontrol and turned off the sound in KDE
(can't remember how I came to this conclusion).

So now KDE loads. That's good. The trouble is that there are a number of
apps that now will not support sound. I have tried setting KDE to use OSS
and Threaded OSS and, although it will still load fine, I still can't get
sound from the apps I want to use. In particular I'm having problems with,

1) XMMS - This one is strange. With ALSA it will not play. With OSS it will
continually loop the first 1 second or so of the song until I hit stop.

2) Mplayer - Will play most movie files fine, but if you exit half way
through the sound will loop around for around 5 seconds before stopping.

3) SDL game (not tried others) - There is no sound whatsoever. I tried
recompiling the projects I'm working on and they simply can't get access to
the sound.

I know my hardware is compatible (Sony VIAO laptop) as I have been using
MDK9 on it for over a year.

Anyone got any suggestions, fixes, etc? It's very frustrating have all the
benefits of the new KDE and general speed of everything but with such a let
down in the sound department.

Cheers,

Steve :|

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Re: [newbie] SCO goes after the *wrong* people.

2004-03-22 Thread frankieh
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 08:57, JoeHill wrote:

Quote:

"SCO sent letters raising the prospect of legal action for using Linux to two
Department of Energy facilities, the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and
the National Energy Research Scientific Computing Center (NERSC)."
Link:

http://news.com.com/2100-7344-5176308.html

Hint for SCO: do not antagonize people who know how to build NUCLEAR BOMBS.


Look - we've been over this time and time again; they can't make money
at their own level - SCO UNIX - and Microsoft HAS admitted to giving SCO
money/funding - c'mon - they're in bed with Microsoft, they're dying,
and McBride is going out of his way to do what he does best - litigate -
instead of run a proper company - he's a frigging vulture - and he's not
going to be able to keep this crap up forever. Once all of this stuff
actually hits the court system, IBM's going to start the Big Blue Ball
rolling and SCO is going to meet it's demise - as well as it's going to
be publicly found out that they're in bed with Microsoft - so
"anti-competition" is going to come into play on this one as well.
stephen kuhn - owner
We should not let others fight our battles for us..

My other half already thinks I am a computer nerd (and probably rightly 
too).
but I have successfully drummed into her head that both MS and SCO suck..

When she gets asked about PC crashes and virus's at work. (and because 
of me that happens to her allot now)
she happily blames MS woeful software security for it.. and rigthly so.

She knows about linux, and its benefits and is generally well informed 
for "just a user".

So when life presents her with the oportunity to give her opinion, she 
does and thus others are illuminated.

Remember, This current stuff (SCO)  is just one part of the fight,, DRM 
and palladium are battles being fought on the sly because right now if 
their true meanings came to light, they would garner significant bad 
press... so they will be introduced slowly with much marketing to 
convince those that don't know any better that its for their own good. 
(M$ will very likely use "protection from virus's"  and cracking as some 
of the big benefits of hardware/software lockin.)

Its our job to keep in mind that if M$ get any more control over the 
design of PC hardware, it will result in more Pc's that will only run 
Winblows, and forced upgrades and subscription services etc..   don't be 
fooled into thinking they wouldn't do that..   they are a commercial 
company that has had a massively overrated stock price for a very long 
time, and the only way to fully sustain that is via growth, and that 
means to create stuff like forced subscription services and force people 
to pay M$ for software upgrades they probably don't need and other 
things of that nature..
best way to do that is to make the hardware/software work together to 
"require" it..  so we should not support any hardware efforts that help 
M$ do that.

I would make the following suggestions...
- Whenever a big company offers linux drivers for a product, download 
the drivers, even if you don't have the product they are for..
this way that company will get some sort of idea of the demand for linux 
support.
- Never buy or encourage the purchase of  any hardware that even 
intimates that its "win" hardware.. unless it comes with linux drivers 
(from the manufacturer, not the OSS comunity..).. even if the hardware 
is going to be used on winblows machines.)
- Don't support any form of DRM and paladium if it is not platform non 
specific.. and even then, treat it with caution.
(because the likes of M$ might start it off as an "open design" to get 
people to buy it and then change the license later on as they often do.)

Just some thoughts..  and I bring them up because there are thousands of 
users on this list, and all of them have families and friends with PC's, 
and they are the people that each of us can help to understand the issues.



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Re: [newbie] Successful boot yet failure to find CD-ROM files

2004-03-22 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 22 Mar 2004 04:11, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> I needed to rebuild one of our test security gateways and after
> experimenting with RedHat, Debian and Slackware, I wanted to give
> Mandrake 10.0 a try.  I was initially very impressed but I am having a
> devil of a time just installing.
>
> The test device is an old e-machines 400Mhz Celeron with 64 MB Ram and a
> 6.4 GB hard drive.  I can successfully install RedHat and Debian from
> CD.
>
> I first tried a CDROM install using the ISO images I downloaded and
> burned.  The system booted perfectly fine but when it tried to access
> files on the CDROM, I generated the following errors:
> <4>hdc: SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-140, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
> .
> .
> .
> <4>hdc: ATAPI 40x CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, DMA
> <6>Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
> <5>SCSI subsystem initialized
> <4>hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> <4>hdc: command error: error=0x50
> <4>end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 64
> <4>isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16
>
> I thought it might be a bad CD even though it appeared to work when I
> tried it on a different computer.  I did find that if I booted the test
> computer into the current Debian installation, I could not manually
> mount the CD.  So I downloaded the ISO again from a different site,
> checked the MD5 checksum and burned a new CD.  Same results.
>
> Based upon some other information I found, I tried booting from CD2
> instead -- same results.
>
> I tried a text installation -- same results.
>
> I then thought I'd mount the CD on a different computer and do an NFS
> installation.  That started to work but, after a while, it aborted with
> a signal 7.
>
> I tried an NFS installation in text mode -- it made it 60+% of the way
> and then aborted with a signal 7 error.
>
> So far I am striking out even though it appears that one of Mandrake's
> features is ease of installation.  Oh, I also tried cleaning the CD lens
> in case it was dirty.  Same problem.  Can someone tell me what I am
> doing wrong? I'd really like to give Mandrake a try.
>
> My apologies if this has already been asked.  I did not see a way to
> search the archives late than 2003-11.  How does one search the most
> current postings to this mail list?
>
> Thanks, all - John

Try booting from CD2 and then switch back to CD1 when it asks for the disc
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/errata.php3

Bear in mind this is the "Community edition" which means there are still bugs 
to be ironed out before 10,0 "Official" is released. Having said that, my own 
experience is that 10.0 is very solid and stable. I hope you like it :-)

derek


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Re: [newbie] Gateway BURN IN HELL!! RANT Kind of long

2004-03-22 Thread anton
Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 22:27:26 -0800
Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sunday 21 March 2004 09:42 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 14:02, Aron Smith wrote:

Thanks for jumping on this before I had a conniption.
that anything like a Walalaby?
WALLABY.
Great Ceasar - y'all cain't spell for the life of ya!
Wallabies don't jump, they hop. They're also very gentle unless
provoked. They way small than a kangaroo, but are part of the
kangaroo family. They ARE endangered now - especially rock
wallabies.
may they all die, like all furry aussie animals destroying NZs beautiful 
and unique nature!
Anton the kiwi who won't be for much longer...
ps. Yes, we do have them, what's more, we have/had a species that is 
extinct in Aussie! And we graciously gave them to you instead of killing 
them all! What have you done for us lately? Eh?

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Re: [newbie] iPOD with Mandrake?

2004-03-22 Thread Stephen Reynolds
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:47 am, Marc Resnick wrote:
> Is it possible to use an iPOD with Mandrake? I'm not quite sure of how
> iPODs work. Would it be recognized just as a removable device? Or does
> anyone know of any open source apps equivalent to the itunes software?

An iPod works fine as an USB storage device with Linux, so you can copy all 
the mp3's (or any other files) on your iPod to your Linux computer.

But I think you need itunes to manipulate the iPod database and therefore play 
any music files you may load onto your iPod from your Linux machine.

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Re: [newbie] Monitor in sleep mode.

2004-03-22 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Monday 22 March 2004 11:13 am, Dan Gordon wrote:
> All of a sudden my monitor goes in to sleep or suspended mode, I have
> turned this off in kde, gnome, xscreensaver, the bios, looked in mcc and
> at a loss, turned off apm. Is there any where else i should look ?
> I have never had this problem before. Any help is welcome.
>
> Regards,
> Dan Gordon
Uumm... how about in BIOS?
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.0 Error

2004-03-22 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Monday 22 March 2004 08:57 am, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Sunday 21 March 2004 08:32 pm, Tomy Alarie wrote:
> > Hi, i just want to know on mandrake 7, why when i try to make a boot disk
> > or install lilo it tells me : "couldn't find kernel file" ? thanks
>
> Well, there is probably about 20 reasons, including your lilo.conf entries
> are pointing to the wrong place or your /boot partition is not mounted, so
> more info is necessary.
>
> The $100,000 question everyone wants answered though is why on earth are
> you still using 7.0?

LOL, very interesting indeed.
Even my first encounter with mdk was 8.0.
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Re: [newbie] Guide to Linux File Command Mastery

2004-03-22 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Monday 22 March 2004 08:06 am, JoeHill wrote:
> Looks like a pretty good intro to command line file manipulation and
> processing:
>
> http://otn.oracle.com/pub/articles/calish_file_commands.html
>
> ...and from Oracle, no less :-)
Thanks Joe.
It's great.
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