Re: [newbie] various issues
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Maybe I am being unecessarily negative about linux. But it does seem that one has to work inordinately hard to achivee some basic functions. I have reverted to Kmail simply because I can't get links to browser to open from Tbird. It seems this may a Tbird problem rather than Mandrake or linux. Nonetheless - fixes suggested, other than command line, which is beyond me as a newbie, don't work. I guess of course, that it's possible that I am entering text incorrectly. At the moment I understand why linux has the reputation that it has. I *do* appreciate all the help I've had. Wondering about going back to windows Whatever is best for you Rosemary. I love Linux, but live on solar power in the bush using a laptop, no serial port, with 31000 kbps Internet access. The desktop uses too much power, but it runs Linux and connects to the net when we have a bit of spare electrical power. But I use mainly the lappy, reworked of course, not as out of the store, and windows XP, the modem and all else works out of the box for that. I like windows well enough, just not their philosophy. I love Linux, but can't download the kernels etc,. that are required for me to get either the PCMCIA modem working, the USB to serial connector working or the winmodem working. So use what you can and have and know. Experiment, I do much of my writing and other work that doesn't require Internet connection in Linux, and Use windows for everything else. Computers are not about Linux, but about what you need or want to do. It depends on the individual but nothing is better, just different. I have come through from Red Hat, Slackware, Suse, even tried Debian for a while and so on. They are all good, I just happen to like Mandrake. Just can't use it on the net at the moment. Just enjoy, don't sweat it, this is not an all or nothing situation. Be well, Charlie. -- Though night after night. The moon is stream reflected, Try to find where it has touched. Point even to a shadow. - Takuan (1573 - 1645) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.2 - Release Date: 28/02/2005 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Life............
A lecturer, when explaining stress management to an audience, raised a glass of water and asked, "how heavy is this glass of water?" Answers called out ranged from 20g to 500g. The lecturer replied, "The absolute weight doesn't matter. It depends on how long you try to hold it." "If I hold it for a minute, that's not a problem. If I hold it for an hour, I'll have an ache in my right arm. If I hold it for a day, you'll have to call an ambulance. "In each case, it's the same weight, but the longer I hold it, the heavier it becomes." He continued, "And that's the way it is with stress management. If we carry our burdens all the time, sooner or later, as the burden becomes increasingly heavy, we won't be able to carry on." "As with the glass of water, you have to put it down for a while and rest before holding it again. When we're refreshed, we can carry on with the burden." "So, before you return home tonight, put the burden of work down. Don't carry it home. You can pick it up tomorrow. Whatever burdens you're carrying now, let them down for a moment if you can." "Relax; pick them up later after you've rested. Life is short. Enjoy it! And then he shared some ways of dealing with the burdens of life: Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue. Always keep your words soft and sweet, just in case you have to eat them. Always read stuff that will make you look good if you die in the middle of it. Drive carefully. It's not only cars that can be recalled by their maker. If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. If you lend someone $20 and never see that person again, it was probably worth it. It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others. Never buy a car you can't push. Never put both feet in your mouth at the same time, because then you won't have a leg to stand on. Nobody cares if you can't dance well. Just get up and dance. Since it's the early worm that gets eaten by the bird, sleep late. The second mouse gets the cheese. When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane. Birthdays are good for you. The more you have, the longer you live. You may be only one person in the world, but you may also be the world to one person. Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once. We could learn a lot from crayons. Some are sharp, some are pretty and some are dull. Some have weird names, and all are different colours, but they all have to live in the same box. A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour. Have an awesome day and know that someone has thought about you today..I did. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ Appreciation is a wonderful thing: It makes what is excellent in others belong to us as well. ..Voltaire *** This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1, Lyx Version 1.3.3, OpenOffice.org1.1 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom busy....not umounting
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Sunday 31 October 2004 20:34, Bill Winegarden wrote: Hi, I'm running LM10 Community on an Inspiron 9100. A fresh install is working 98%. However, the cdrom does not seem to want to let go of any cdrom once I view it's contents in Konq. As root, I get the error umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy It seems that supermount may not be operating correctly. fstab follows /dev/hda5 / reiserfs notail,noatime 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 /dev/hda2 /mnt/win_c ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 /dev/hda7 /mnt/win_d vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 Does anything seem out of place? I vaguely remember the problem. What does "eject cdrom" (as root) give you ? You fstab looks fine to me. But recently I had a mount problem, found something on the net and removed the "noatime". Worked fine since then. Theoretically the noatime option should improve speed and I/O operations, since access time stamps are seldom needed, but I can't see any difference. HTH Kaj Haulrich. lsof /dev/hdc will tell you what is holding onto the device and more than likely it will be fam kill it and you will get back control of you CDROM I have disabled fam on my systems, because it oversteps the mark. Charlie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] login as root?
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:05 pm, javier garcia thought these things and wrote: > Hi all; > I've just installed Mandrake Linux 9.1. In my old version (8.2) when I > installed it I had the possibility to enter as root in the X11 interface, > but now I just can login as one of the additional user I've created but I > can't see any option to enter as root. ¿Has this changed or am I doing > someything wrong? > How can I login as root in the X11 front? > > Thanks and best regards > > Javier MCC/System/Display manager/KDM As Root :- Mandrake Control Centre then System and then click on the traffic light icon [Display Manager] and select KDM Then do:- Ctrl + Backspace which will kill the display Manager and bring you into a new login with the option to type in root. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- When I hear the hypercritical quarreling about grammar and style, the position of the particles, etc., etc., stretching or contracting every speaker to certain rules of theirs. I see that they forget that the first requisite and rule is that expression shall be vital and natural, as much as the voice of a brute or an interjection: first of all, mother tongue; and last of all, artificial or father tongue. Essentially your truest poetic sentence is as free and lawless as a lamb's bleat. .Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1, Lyx Version 1.3.3 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 08:30 am, Alan Shoemaker wrote: > On Tuesday 31 August 2004 03:01 pm, charlie wrote: > > I couldn't get the win modem to work because 9.2 didn't supply > > a kernel source and I am in very slow dial up. That is the problem with > > that lappy, no serial port. But someone posted something about a modem > > card that might be the way to go. But haven't investigated it as yet. > > Price is about $AU135.oo. > > > > HTH > > > > Charlie > > arrh! if australian dollars are anywhere close in value to > american dollars, then that price is awful!!! check this out: > > http://www.meritline.com/zfm5600-v-92-56kb-fax-modem-pcmcia-pc-card.html > > and note at the bottom of the page thay have an aussie flag icon marked: > > 'Australia customers, click here.' i've used this brand/model pcmcia > hardware modem with my toshiba laptop for several years now. Thanks Alan, I don't know anything about these cards, but read something about them on this or the expert list some time back. I looked at the above website and then moved to the one in OZ, but copying the exact name in had no results there, and also typing in pcmcia modem card had no result. So maybe there is something about the card that is not accepted in Oz. I have only ever found one, that being the one which I posted the price on. I don't think they are much used in this country. But when I bought the lappy I didn't check, but just assumed [ which as it turned out, made an ass of me ] a serial port. We are about to move to solar power, and the lappy will drag less power. The $Au is valued at about half the US dollar. I will keep looking, there is no option but dial up in the bush here. Thanks again. Charlie. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- I have received no more than one or two letters in my life that were worth the postage. .Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and of course OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:32 pm, M.Schild wrote: > My friend with the Win XP problem on her laptop asked a professional to > save what she could. I did slip the professional my Mandrake CDs so she > could try to install 10. She had problems with the modem ( we knew about > that, easily solved), the sound and , much more annoying, the touch > screen ( or whatever it is called). Now she is back on a limping Win > XPbut would prefer Linux if it works > Anyone has any solution? > thanks > Maryse The touch pad works in my Acer but with the 2.4 kernel, it never gets past the mouse configuration with the 2.6 kernel. No matter what I have tried, and commands are passed to the kernel, it won't get past that point. Charlie. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- He who distinguishes the true savour of his food can never be a glutton; he who does not cannot be otherwise. .Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and of course OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 28 August 2004 13:23:01, Greg Meyer wrote: > I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while. > > I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build just for the learning > experience, and something has just dawned on me. If a Linux system needs > to be built from a host system, how did the first linux system get built? > > In other words, how can I create something that needs itself to be created? > > -- > /g On an i386 running minix as far as I remember. I'd have to dig for links to the history but for some reason that answer is stuck in my feable and fallible old brain. C. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.6.8.1-5mdk 13:38:36 up 3:42, 2 users, load average: 1.24, 0.80, 0.95 ... with liberty and justice for all ... who can afford it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBMN/oZqvqlrLPr5YRAmqGAJwMinPuWBWSPwZKNdGlMqn17PBmggCeN95P c3DL9P72TzADjVxdaFIRrF4= =PnHK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 27 August 2004 15:44:03, cdrack wrote: Nice answer. Not entirely accurate but nice. > Hi BJ. > > In my opinion the size of each partition are given > acord the use you intent to give and of course the > size of youre disk. i.e. Close enough within limits. > if you have let's say a 80 Gb Hdd. then if youre > computer is just for personal usage... the Mandrake > Linux Normal instalation will use a partition named > "/" wich is the root of the operative system... (don't > get confused about the root user, that's another > thing). so into this partition can be alocated all > the other directories that the system needs like > "home", "var", "usr" "tmp". But the main reason to > create partitions for this directories is to limit the > size of each one to an especific maximun size. .i.e. Possibly not the best idea to hang system variables (/var) and /usr off the / partition. I definitely wouldn't put /tmp there. / is the "trunk of the tree" for the entire system. > / = 20 GB > /Home = 40 GB (because is the home of each user and > have to hold the user's documents like music, imgs, > etc.) Home can be that large if you routinely have large files (ISOs) or large ogg or mp3 collections or audio visual (aka movies) files stored there. If you set a /multimedia partition of appropriate size on one of the other drives /home doesn't need to be that big. But don't forget your e-mail and other things. My ~.Mail directory for K-Mail is at 470 MB and growing. My bookmark file is fairly large too. > /swap = recomended 2x RAM Memory, let's say you have a > 512 DDRAM dim, so create a 1 GB swap partition. OK this has as many answers as there are Linux users and the only correct answer is "set a large enough swap." You define enough by the intended usage and the available physical memory, granted. But if you're manipulating large files, like video, you need as much as you can accommodate without compromising anything else. The 2x or 2.5x recommendation is usually OK. Not always needed though. This system has 512 MB of DDR at the moment. It will have 768 MB again tomorrow and the swap file is 800 MB. Why? 'Cause I set it that way just for the hell of it. > /tmp = 5 GB 's But if you have or may have sometime in the future a "dual layer" DVD burner and use it routinely that isn't enough. The burning apps use /tmp and the dual layer disk images will be larger than that. I hate coasters, especially at the price of *that* media. 1.5x up to 2x the size of the largest file you may manipulate or edit is my own rule of thumb and it hasn't bitten me on the ass yet. > and that's all ... there are no especific size or > directive that any of the prior directories must be > partitions on youre hard drive, but is easier to > mantain in case of dissasters or even back up > operations. i.e. > > If for any reason you have to reinstall youre Linux > box and you created separated partitions to hold "/" > and "/home" then you just have to format the "/" > partition and youre documents will be safe on the > other partition and ready to use after youre > instalation. > > Cdrack. > No argument really. Won't always be so obvious when upgrading to the next version of the OS but... My own (for the moment) table on this box with the 2 drives that I have plugged back in so far: [EMAIL PROTECTED] nanook]$ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 789M 122M 667M 16% / /dev/hdb1 29G 18G 11G 64% /archive /dev/hda10 23G 11G 13G 46% /dump /dev/hda8 5.9G 2.2G 3.7G 38% /home /dev/hdb5 28G 22G 6.8G 76% /store /dev/hda9 2.0G 3.7M 2.0G 1% /tmp /dev/hda6 3.9G 1.7G 2.3G 43% /usr /dev/hda7 2.0G 328M 1.7G 17% /var That table changes almost as often as the weather in Edmonton. It's just what's here now, by morning it will be different/more complex/more and larger drives etc. BJ, read the following until one of the _smart_ regulars shows up to give you *good* advice: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/4269/1/ Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.6.8.1-4mdk 19:20:39 up 19:05, 1 user, load average: 0.60, 0.29, 0.16 Whistler's mother is off her rocker. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBL+NsZqvqlrLPr5YRAr3XAJ9EwJfrSUQtDsIfbwiV4WHNsmCjCQCeIBi5 L/YONxsfb/8Vrc6hIDOhxZc= =Xgfr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 07:26 am, BJ Tracy wrote: > Hello All, > > Thanks Hoyt for responding to my questions. > > Not sure if you are going to see my responses, I tried to respond and > Kmail went nuts and crashed the first time and rebooted itself the second > time. > > What is up with that ?? I have never had any problems with Kmail. > > Can anyone help,,, is this a bug or what. > > Thanks again Hoyt, let me know if you get my other questions > Regards to all, > bj I'm not certain that you're allowed to use on this list, unless referring to something m$ -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- In three words I can sum up everything I've learnt about life. It goes on. ...Robert Frost ___ This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and of course OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hardware problem. Keeps rebooting/freezing.
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 04:22 pm, Dale Kosan wrote: > Power Supply? > > On Aug 27, 2004, at 1:46 AM, charlie wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:55 pm, Paul Rodriguez wrote: > >> A couple of months ago, we had a power surge at our house that harmed > >> the computer. Although the computer was on a surge protector, the > >> cable > >> modem was not, and it fried the eth0 on the motherboard. > >> > >> I have since have had a difficulty whenever I try to transfer large > >> files on the hard drive. When I try, my computer restarts or freezes. > >> > >> I have since replaced the mobo (Soyo Dragon Plus SY-KT600), my memory, > >> and my hard drive. > >> > >> Changing my hard drive and motherboard made no change. My computer > >> would alternately freeze or reboot during the installation phase. > >> > >> After installing new memory (from Crucial, specifically for my new > >> mobo), my computer doesn't even boot properly, and never gets to the > >> menus in the mandrake install cd. > > > > No real idea here, but I have heard of something similar and it was the > > cabling that was damaged. Again because of a power outage. Might not > > be the > > case with your machine though, but worth a check just the same. No the ribbons to the motherboard. But they did the same as you before they tried anything else, bought a new motherboard and graphics card and the problem persisted. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- The generative energy, which, when we are loose, dissipates and makes us unclean, when we are continent invigorates and inspires us. Chastity is the flowering of man; and what are called Genius, Heroism, Holiness, and the like, are but various fruits which succeed it. ...Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and of course OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hardware problem. Keeps rebooting/freezing.
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:55 pm, Paul Rodriguez wrote: > A couple of months ago, we had a power surge at our house that harmed > the computer. Although the computer was on a surge protector, the cable > modem was not, and it fried the eth0 on the motherboard. > > I have since have had a difficulty whenever I try to transfer large > files on the hard drive. When I try, my computer restarts or freezes. > > I have since replaced the mobo (Soyo Dragon Plus SY-KT600), my memory, > and my hard drive. > > Changing my hard drive and motherboard made no change. My computer > would alternately freeze or reboot during the installation phase. > > After installing new memory (from Crucial, specifically for my new > mobo), my computer doesn't even boot properly, and never gets to the > menus in the mandrake install cd. No real idea here, but I have heard of something similar and it was the cabling that was damaged. Again because of a power outage. Might not be the case with your machine though, but worth a check just the same. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- At the same time that we are earnest to explore and learn all things, we require that all things be mysterious and unexplorable, that land and sea be infinitely wild, unsurveyed and unfathomed by us because unfathomable. .Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and of course OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:58 am, Lanman wrote: > Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > On Thursday 26 August 2004 16:35, charlie wrote: > >>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > >>>On Thursday 26 August 2004 06:23, Lanman wrote: > >>>>Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > > > > > >>Something strange happened to me this morning as I was downloading > >>mail into Kmail. I deleted one of Lanman's mails and the Kmail > >>desktop locked up solid, my CPU usage went into the 100% and stayed > >>there. But nothing was happening in Kmail that I could see. So went > >>into a terminal, and top showed that Kmail was gobbling up 98% of my > >>CPU muscle. Killed the pid and all is back to as it should be. > >> > >>Is Kmail going flaky or are Lanman's mail becoming sacred or > >>precious? > >> > >>Charlie. > > > > Probably sacred but I haven't trashed any mail from tom and it happens > > here as well but not necessarly in kmail. It just happens. Now my > > kmail stops sending before it does goes bonkers. > > Guys! I'm getting a nosebleed from being up on this pedestal you're > putting me on! Grin! LMAO! However, just as a precaution, you might want > to archive them in case they become valuable in the future? LOL! > > But seriously, I've been noticing quite a few more posts to this list > and others regarding Kmail issues. I'm wondering if something in it was > accidentally Borked when it was added to KDE-PIM and/or Kontact, because > it used to be a rock-solid program before that happened. > > Hmmm. will have to keep an eye on that. > > Lanman For that reason didn't install Kontact, because I like KMail the way it is and a bit longer than a year ago used Evolution. But don't like all that extra stuff with the mail program. Have it on its own where required. KMail alone, no Kontact here. But this is the first time that anything like this has happened. Like the man said when his horse died. It has never done that before. I too am watching. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- If you argue for your limitations, you get to keep them. ..Richard Bach ___ This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and of course OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > On Thursday 26 August 2004 06:23, Lanman wrote: > > Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > Now that you mention it spellcheck only works randomly. That is > > > now its working in 5 or 10 seconds it will quit, or not, and it may > > > start again within one reply. With my spelling ability it needs to > > > work all the time and it would be nice if it made suggestions like > > > google did you mean. It is now disabled[As-you-type spell checking > > > disabled.] as expected and all I was doing you can see. Its a > > > puzzle. > > > > Wish I had some sage advice to give you Hoyt, but I haven't been > > using KMail for over a year now. In fact, I don't even bother with > > the KDE-PIM packages at all. > > > > My biggest hassle was finding an email client that cold be deployed > > in a mixed platform environment and also one that made easy work of > > importing and exporting emails to/from other email clients. > > > > So I switched to Mozilla-Thunderbird about 5 or 6 months ago and > > never looked back. Now, even on dual-boot systems, I have full access > > to the same emails and accounts regardless of which OS I'm currently > > running. The address book is transportable as are the junk-mail > > filters and junk history, and the best thing is that my spell-checker > > not only works 110%, but I can also save or copy it to other systems > > including any new words or terms that it has learned. > > > > All of that saves a lot of time and hassle for myself and my clients. > > Since backing up the necessary files is a piece of cake, I also come > > across as a genius to my clients, which helps quite a bit when > > invoicing them! > > > > You might want to consider switching to Thunderbird. Their site also > > has a quick and clean method of grabbing your emails from KMail and > > moving them to Thunderbird. > > > > Clever guys! > > > > Lanman > > I took a look at mozilla mail but didnt like it I'll check out > Thunderbird I must admit kmail is too unstable, on my system, to serve > well. I would prefer to address the instability but dont have a clue > it may be somewhere else. Something strange happened to me this morning as I was downloading mail into Kmail. I deleted one of Lanman's mails and the Kmail desktop locked up solid, my CPU usage went into the 100% and stayed there. But nothing was happening in Kmail that I could see. So went into a terminal, and top showed that Kmail was gobbling up 98% of my CPU muscle. Killed the pid and all is back to as it should be. Is Kmail going flaky or are Lanman's mail becoming sacred or precious? Charlie. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- A man cannot be said to succeed in this life who does not satisfy one friend. .Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and of course OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] W32.Netsky -> Linux really better protected than windows? [way OT]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 21 August 2004 11:30:11, Vincent Voois wrote: > Stephen Kühn wrote: > > On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 02:03, Charlie Mahan wrote: > >>On the third hand (Moties anyone? ); A question, does anyone know why > >> the list is suddenly being astro-turfed with html messages? > >> > >>Charlie > > > > ...because we're being inundated by MS Outlook, MS Outlook Express and > > web-based email clients as opposed to the normal RFC standard text based > > email clients properly configured? > > > > ...or maybe no one reads the list Ettiquette? > > > > ...or maybe Kommandant Hill isn't being the proper list Nazi he usually > > is? Or maybe all of the above in strange and unusual new combinations? (-: Joe isn't paying attention? SCHULTZZ! Kommandant Klink needs you. Besides I've been adding to the hijack. Punish Stephen and I you slacker. Did that work? > Okay okay, got the message... > Netscape supports html too (if the moron me does not deactivate it, that > is), forgot most Linux boxers here probably are still sticked to pine > (sorry guys :P) Vincent we as Linux users probably (definitely) have more choices in full featured and secure e-mail clients than you do in Windows. Including the Mozilla. Nutscrape, Thunderbird triumvirate. Pine is old news, mutt is old news, gnus gives me a headache which i couldn't stand at the moment, sylpheed-claws is OK if I had time to set it up...and so on. You still seem to be misunderstanding the whole concept of choice about some things but *moron?* Self deprecation has it's uses (I'm a twit myself), but sharing it with people you don't know is perhaps not a sign of emotional and intellectual maturity or stability. I wonder where the disappearing messages are going this time. I sent an earlier reply to one of Vincent's posts about the release of Nutscrape 7.2 and that he could add security by upgrading his Windows client since it's based on the latest stable Mozilla 1.7.2. Oh well... Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.6.8.1-2mdk 11:51:19 up 16:05, 1 user, load average: 0.23, 0.11, 0.08 Thirty white horses on a red hill, First they champ, Then they stamp, Then they stand still. -- Tolkien -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBJ45zZqvqlrLPr5YRAuCPAJ9GPZ0tHgVqZF9oW5YWnT9g2rzE5gCfWCFA fi1O+4PcJ6UvIzWk021bEYs= =OnF7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] W32.Netsky -> Linux really better protected than windows?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 21 August 2004 08:45:08, JoeHill wrote: > On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:25:04 -0400 > > Bryan Phinney disseminated the following: > > Ahhh, right. I mean, why would a hacker bother to try to hit Linux when > > all he would manage to do is compromise thousands of machines that make > > up the entire Internet backbone. I mean, what would be the good in, say > > compromising all the google clusters and disrupting the primary search > > engine of the Internet? The other script kiddies would probably laugh > > you out of the Internet cafe when talking about that compared to, oh, > > sending out a brain-dead virus built from a kit, using a vulerability > > that was published a year ago, that hits home users who haven't updated > > their software since they bought their computer. Yeah, it must be that > > whole windows popularity thing, I am sure that the comparitive difficulty > > in targeting Linux over windows has absolutely nothing to do with it. > > Pull the other one. > > ROFLMAO! Nice...that's a keeper. > > The far less amusing version, dare I post it again: > > http://securityfocus.com/columnists/188 I agree with your assessment of Bryan's reply. (-: On the other hand; you've probably seen the additional "editor's" comments on that article that were added since it was first run? One includes a link to the wildlist included in the editor's: "Editor's note: unfortunately we have been made aware that this quote by Dr. Peeling and Dr. Satchell is incorrect; the independent WildList organization produces a monthly "in the wild" list of viruses. While the vast majority of viruses in their report are Windows-based, there are still some Linux-based viruses (listed as "Other") found in the wild as well." Link: http://www.wildlist.org/WildList/ Later the editor has this to add: "Editor's note: the above vulnerabilities, while valid, all had patches provided by Microsoft months before they were actively exploited by malicious code. This does not negate the fact that the vulnerabilities existed -- however there are also exploits for some Linux mail clients (Pine, mutt) that will execute code on a system when the user views the message as well. To bypass the security fix provided by Microsoft, the user must now take some specific actions as explained in the link above." In reference to the editor's first "correction" I see exactly one virus under other for the latest month (June) on the list: +W32/Bagle.X. Since that's obviously a native Windows critter...who is this editor when he isn't corrupting articles? The second editorial comment, while somewhat true, is in fact exceptionally misleading and seems to be an excerpt from the Microsoft "Get the Facts" PR kit. A Win32 "Linux Virus?" Yeah right. http://www.z-virus.com/Eng-virus-HTM/bagle-x.htm http://enterprise-linux-it.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=23837 I once had a lot more respect for Security Focus and the writers that contribute there, with a few notable exceptions. On the third hand (Moties anyone? ); A question, does anyone know why the list is suddenly being astro-turfed with html messages? Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.6.8.1-2mdk 09:15:57 up 13:30, 1 user, load average: 0.25, 0.22, 0.17 "The porcupine with the sharpest quills gets stuck on a tree more often." -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBJ3JgZqvqlrLPr5YRApCfAKCQ6twjHUxfpppyVgo3j5HBARDJDQCffMpZ zeg50zjsm+3DiRPSxE1KNdU= =7817 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Screenshots
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 21 August 2004 04:47:04, Vincent Voois wrote: > To be honest:If MS released windows the way it supposed to be, there > shouldn't be a need of SP1 and SP2. But MS has too many coders working > on too many projects and these projects can't be tested in all possible > combinations amongst eachother for the fact if they're fool- AND > hack-proof. But if Windows XP would have been that properly protected back > then, as it is now, nobody would have bought it since the PC hardware of > that time was not fast enough to be able to handle such bulky and > overheaded software MS releases. And honestly, today most common machines > experience a tremendous backdraft in speed when SP2 is installed. > > I stick to the really critical security packs (meaning shit that the > firewall of my router can't stop AKA leaks in MS broadcast and receive > applications etc.) and that's it. I'm almost positive this system has been infected by my warped sense of humor, as exemplified by the "random" Fortune used in my signature. Vincent; It would seem you have made at least one choice on your Windows system to shore up the lines of defense. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) You do know that Netscape 7.2 has been released do you not? It's based on the latest "stable" Mozilla and according to what I've read it's what version 6.0 should have been for Windows users especially. But this thread was about Linux choices in general and Mandrake choices specifically. Not Windows choices, of which very few are available. Maybe you should stop lurking and give Mandrake a try? I'm fairly sure most of us have felt the exact levels of frustration you do in our past. But as more than one list member has stated; "If Microsoft ever got serious about security and stability I'd have to go to work for a living." Or words to that effect. (-: Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.6.8.1-2mdk 04:55:59 up 9:10, 2 users, load average: 0.27, 0.13, 0.18 The nice thing about Windows is - It does not just crash, it displays a dialog box and lets you press 'OK' first. (Arno Schaefer's .sig) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBJy5CZqvqlrLPr5YRAoS6AJ0S4npk+yPjx4laQ9Qm9Tfo1TCVswCglXs0 JgDACyVxf1reC1b1AY0m4X8= =7wWE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] boot log...
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 03:19 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am doing my best to locate the log with all the messages > > appearing during the boot sequence, but I couldn't find it > > in... /var/log/ > > Where can I read again what was printed on the screen during > > the bootup sequence? > > > > thanks, > > > > > > Anguo > > I believe is dmsg. what is dmsg? -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- Nothing puzzles me more than time and space; yet nothing troubles me less. Charles Lamb ___ This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and of course OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Scanning from GIMP2
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 03:16 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Can't help you there (g). My wish is to find a way to "antiskew" > some photos : I live by the sea here in Denmark and a lot of photos > has an oblique horizon (too many beers, perhaps). I'm no champion > at image manipulation, but I remember a nice application called > "Photo>Graphics" from my OS/2 days. It had an option to "skew" > images into the correct, horizontal position. Maybe GIMP can do the > same, but I can't find out how. I recall a post where someone wanted to change a shape from /_\ to straight | _| sided and the reply was to:- Double click on the rotation icon etc. select perspective and then you can change things. I have never taken the time to look at the options allowed by double clicking on the icons. But maybe it will help you. Charlie. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- However mean your life is, meet it and live it; do not shun it and call it hard names. It is not so bad as you are. It looks poorest when you are the richest. .Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and of course OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DVD +/-RW / +/-R drives
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 15 August 2004 22:32:10, julie wrote: > I've searched the Internet until I'm bleary eyed and hunted through > archives and not come up with an answer as to which DVD +/-RW / +/-R might > work with Mandrake Official 10. There are some tempting sales on right now > and I'd like to take advantage ... Anyone know anything about I/OMagic or > Micro Advantage products? > > Thanks, > Julie Owens Yes, I love sales. But I always miss them. Either, both, which do you want, stay away from the dual layer types because of price, and almost total lack of blank media, this is a run-on sentence isn't it? :-) The software is built into the backend for the "burning applications" now. I've actually had decent success with the LG 4082B, Lite-On (various models and speeds) haven't had a complaint about the Sony I installed last week yet, anything by Plextor is great usually, if you don't mind the price tag, and as far as I know everything by all the "known" brand name manufacturers will read and write all those types now. Multi type drives are common now. I'll stick with the ones I know for now, the ones I've listed above. A friend just bought one yesterday, but I don't know which of the BenQs available locally, so I'm pasting details below for the more expensive. Knowing her that's what she ended up with. If it goes boom I'll post that here but I doubt it did or will. She installed it last night and hasn't called screeching so it must be OK. Trust me, I'd hear about it if she had trouble. She's actually running Beta1 of Mandrake 10.1 but i don't know that that would make a huge difference. _Not_ a recommendation. I don't know the equipment yet. BenQ DW822A DVD Rewriter Drive Retail (New Arrival) DVD+RW Speed - 8x4x12x, DVD-RW Speed - 4x2x12x, CD Speed - 24x10x40x, Double-Layer (+R9) Upgradeable, 8MB Buffer $ 105.83 Notice it writes almost any of the media out of the box, and is upgradeable (firmware) when the dual layer media are finally available. The price is in Canadian $ at a retail shop locally, so multiply by .75 to convert to U.S.$. Close enough anyway. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 22:45:22 up 12:13, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.13 Moe: What did you give your wife for Valentine's Day? Joe: The usual gift -- she ate my heart out. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBIEJ/ZqvqlrLPr5YRAqZTAKCrsljtQOy8CEB3blg8IMl48U+2igCfXW3a zh9F23SAywU1CXKZ60IDy4E= =3dv0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Downloads and Installs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 15 August 2004 21:24:09, BJ Tracy wrote: > Hello All, > > I have a number of books on Linux and find them to be a wealth of knowledge > but they are really vague when it comes to downloads and installations. > > Can someone suggest a good book that will walk me thru a download and > installation. I may be making this harder than it is, but I have been on > MS all my life and just recently switched to Linux. It's been years since > I last did a lot of work on the keyboard(in the terminal) but I really do > like what I'm doing now in Linux. I think you are. There are over 9,000 packages between main and contrib, plus there's PLF and a few other spots that have Mandrake packages. What are you looking for? > A couple of NEWBIE questions: > 1) When you download a program such as clamav, where should you down load > to? A temp file in the usr file? I would either: Open Mandrake Control Centre, go to the Software Management section and if you have remote repositories listed as sources just click the install icon and find a blank spot in the left pane when it's loaded. Right click that empty spot, select update media and put "X's" in all the remote sources and click update. When that's done scroll through the list in whatever mode seems easiest to you. I usually leave client's systems set to display "All Packages by Update Availability." If there updates for what you have installed you'll have two expandable lists, addable and upgradable. The right pane will tell you about whatever package you high light in the left pane. If you find something, or a group of somethings, just x the little boxes and hit the install button. The rest is handled, including being asked for permission to install any required packages or dependencies. Since you asked a specific question about a specific package: Open a terminal, become super user and type: urpmi clamav and strike the Enter key. The exact same result as the explanation above, dependencies etc are handled but it's all in the terminal. That MCC above, as part of it's functions, is a "front end" for urpm and the drak tools. rpmdrake (the graphical installer mentioned above) drakconnect, harddrake and so on. While you're there do also: urpmi rute and strike the Enter key. That's a book that's in PDF form. From the information side of the graphical installer: " Rute Users Tutorial and Exposition Description: Rute is a beginners guide to Linux and Unix-like systems. It is designed as a dependency consistent tutorial document. This means you can (and should) read it from beginning to end in consecutive order. Rute also satisfies the requirements for course notes for a Linux training course." Are you bored out of your rock pickin' mind yet? > 2) After extracting the files form the tar, and you do a 'make' and a > 'make install' , , , , , does Linux know where to put the program files? > Just a little confused. The instructions for installation should be in the tar ball, yes. Depends on the developer. What are you trying to install from a tar ball? > Any good books on this, PLEASE ADVISE. > bj I've been accused of a lot of things but never of being a book. Wellmy schoolmates called me a damned encyclopedia with legs a few times. Linux in a nutshell. Link on this page to buy it or read it online: http://www.onlamp.com/linux/cmd/ Anything at O'Reilly Books. Play here for a while: http://safari.oreilly.com/ I'd even look at the local public library or any nearby tech schools/colleges or universities for the tiles on the pages. You may be surprised at what's been traded in at any local used book stores too. Some interesting out of print things at the one nearest me a while back. Are ya bored yet? lol Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 22:05:50 up 11:33, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.10, 0.09 VMS is like a nightmare about RXS-11M. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBIDf1ZqvqlrLPr5YRAmeNAJ4meRQ7Y3IpH5OgGoKC6x9IeaJCqQCbBNhC 34mbYRMBcQi2S7jwoQbBIWk= =+GlN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Dumbest question ever asked
- Original Message - From: Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, August 14, 2004 3:11 pm Subject: Re: [newbie] [OT] Dumbest question ever asked > On Saturday 14 August 2004 01:20 am, Charlie Mahan wrote: > > > Personal experience as of 42 minutes 38 seconds ago. Virgin > install of XP > > on a virgin drive, new system. The new owner picked it up from me > this> afternoon, took it home and decided to get the installation > out of the way > > before dinner so that he wouldn't have to use his wife and kids > system. > I know that this is probably not the right mailing list, but for > those of you > still dealing with XP, 2000, et al who need to do an installation > but don't > want to make the box vulnerable by attaching to the net to get > updates, take > a look at this site: > http://www.autopatcher.com/ > > You can download the entire set of MS updates, burn to a CD and > install > everything prior to connecting to the net the first time. Added > benefit, in > most cases, you don't have to reboot the box interminable numbers > of times to > get the updates installed, simply run, check off the updates you > want and > click install, sit back for about 40-60 minutes while it runs and > then > reboot once. > > If you HAVE to run XP, 2000 etc., there is absolutly no reason to > torture > yourself by doing it the hard way. > > -- > Bryan Phinney > That's exactly what I spent three days preaching at hin to do Bryan. I had already downloaded SP2 to CD-RW for him before I found out about the "gotchas" included in that. That, Zone Alarm, AVG and TweakUI were all he needed to be safe enough to work with for the time it takes to go through any further required updates, but like 99% of the Windows users I've encountered in the past 12 years he doesn't have the patience. Hell i even threw in a copy of The Cleaner. Maybe that's why i called him a dork and charged him _way_ too much for being there? Please excuse this weird looking message, if it is. I'm stuck on the web interface because the last update to cooker did strange things to the system. Or maybe it's all PEBCAK? lol Charlie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Dumbest question ever asked
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 13 August 2004 22:44:10, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > Joe: > > Any one want to get up a pool on how long it will take until the script > kiddies exploit that hole? According to an article on /. a while back, if > you connect a virgin XP install to the web using a wideband connection, the > break in attempts can start within a minute or two. Scary. Very scary. > > -- cmg Personal experience as of 42 minutes 38 seconds ago. Virgin install of XP on a virgin drive, new system. The new owner picked it up from me this afternoon, took it home and decided to get the installation out of the way before dinner so that he wouldn't have to use his wife and kids system. I just home got from an unscheduled trip there to reinstall Windows and install the utilities I _told the dork_ to download on the family system, burn to disk, and install *before allowing XP onto the net. 2 worms, 1 trojan in 1 minute 45 seconds. By his count. By the time I got there he had wiped the drive, burned the utilities (I always recommend AVG too Joe) but his confidence was so shaken he wouldn't touch the system until I was there to lead him through. The only good that came out of the service call (other than the assault I performed on his wallet) is that the new 120 GB drive is now set for dual boot Mandrake 10.0 and his wife was in familiar territory happily chatting with friends using kopete when I left. So much for his Windows only box. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 22:55:41 up 4:02, 2 users, load average: 0.36, 0.36, 0.77 Microsoft should switch to the vacuum cleaner business where people actually want products that suck. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBHaEZZqvqlrLPr5YRAuydAKC1NL74BBaZmjzmvWVjj3ylT4oopwCeMqxV M45p6WYsLHj1efAodtD8Qio= =7Cnd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Error 255
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 07:15 pm, Roy Babin wrote: > Can anybody tell me what "Unknown error 255" is when using K3B? > Thanking anyone who may tell me.Roy Not certain about this, but when k3b can't umount the drive so that it can burn. Had something like this when I still had fam running and k3b couldn't access the drive on a multi session CD. I thought k3b was nuts, but when I killed the pid that was holding the drive, the CD was accessible and the data added to it. HTH Carlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- Goodness is the only investment which never fails. ...Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and of course OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: F@H/BOINC was: Starting folding at home automatically... Charlie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 11 August 2004 19:13:07, BJ Tracy wrote: > On Wednesday 11 August 2004 04:02 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: > > On Wednesday 11 August 2004 13:51:01, C. Tresenriter wrote: > > > > > > Charlie > > SNIP > > Hey Charlie, > > Thanks for all your help. Got Mandrake re-installed and think everything > is ok. Had to do it a couple of times due to all my hard disk space but > we are up and running. > > Thanks for all your pointers, however since I'm NEW to Linux,, I've got a > LOT to learn yet and knowing I can bounce things off of you and others like > youwell I don't feel by myself. > > FYI - I just installed Mandrake 10 PowerPack on my laptop(Compaq Presario) > and just have a little problem getting on my dsl. > > Thanks again and I'm lifting a Shinner Bock to you. > Cheers, > bj You're more than welcome. Scream when you need to, that's why the list is here. There are some really helpful, intelligent people offering their time round here. Must be some kind of community thing? Maybe next time you'll be lucky and get one of them. I'm just trying to pay back the good turns done me in the past by passing it on. Before you can believe it will be your turn. Oh yeah; I'll drink to that! Cheers. Warm Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 21:17:33 up 3:33, 1 user, load average: 0.31, 0.21, 0.18 Help stamp out Mickey-Mouse computer interfaces -- Menus are for Restaurants! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBGuNjZqvqlrLPr5YRAkGMAJsFVCGve14PodFxD610Hmdst9Kw/gCdGxlW sC5E2mlNNQ2UJR2Ib1UyuAY= =WEfR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: F@H/BOINC was: Starting folding at home automatically... Charlie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 11 August 2004 13:51:01, C. Tresenriter wrote: > Did a bit of research and found this. > Similar aims as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and is on BOINC > Still in alpha-test stage. > http://predictor.scripps.edu/ Thanks for the info. Since I'm knee deep in a beta version of Mandrake I think I'll hold off on testing an alpha BOINC of [EMAIL PROTECTED] or anything else. Maybe I'll park it on a few customers' machines when I assemble and load them. Then just not tell them I did it. (Just kidding!) My headaches are big enough thanks. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 13:56:34 up 6:07, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.14, 0.16 Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats. -- Howard Aiken -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBGnthZqvqlrLPr5YRAlH/AKCyZRnqxi1vdVnY8i96ZOWZ/o9O0ACffxv0 UM6mrD04b920YdrycxBmB6E= =mviY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Connecting Apollon to other networks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 07 August 2004 13:37:01, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All > > I have Apollon installed on my computer. However, apparently, it only > connects to OpenFT network. Is it possible to connect to other networks > (Gnutella, for instance) with Apollon? > > Thanks in advance, > > Paul Once upon a time, in a land far far away...maybe. There are 2 libs offered when you install the (NON Mandrake supported!) apollon package. One is the openfasttrack and the other includes gnutella access I do believe. Lately (maybe because every box here is cooked) I haven't been able to make "the other one" do anything more than waste time. So much for testing. If you want to use gnutella why not just try installing that other lib in addition to the one you have, then go through the ~/.giFT/giftd.conf file and find the line to enable the gnutella link. It may work, but it may not. I'd be inclined to just install gtk-gnutella from the same (PLF) source (PLF) that you found apollon should I desire to access that network. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 12:07:06 up 4 days, 1:00, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.10 Hartley's First Law: You can lead a horse to water, but if you can get him to float on his back, you've got something. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBF78BZqvqlrLPr5YRAoQAAJ9R0hWT2Sd+6XqZC7qPSfQzaVq26gCffnQQ xvNI1NN7yurdNRM9PPuej1g= =Zc5l -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Teaching Spamassassin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 09 August 2004 23:28:11, Rob Blomquist wrote: > I just thought I would toss out that I use a little (poorly written) bash > script called spam-learn that resides in ~/bin and is made executable. > > echo "SpamPile" > sa-learn --spam ~/.Mail/SpamPile/cur/ > echo "inbox" > sa-learn --ham ~/.Mail/inbox/cur/ > echo "Ads" > sa-learn --ham ~/.Mail/Ads/cur/ > > I run it daily after my new mail arrives, and it works great, as I rarely > have to handle this manually. > > Rob Great, thanks Rob. But I _don't like_ spamassassin. So I don't want to have to run a script or anything else when bogofilter is now integrated into Kontact's Anti Spam Wizard and basically runs itself without sucking too many CPU cycles or using too much memory. I know the filtering is probably superior, but in an account where the Spam load is very light (289 out of the past 54,000+) and the machine running the spam filters isn't high powered, for my needs bogofilter is the right solution. But I still swiped your script! Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 23:36:18 up 4:21, 1 user, load average: 1.24, 1.12, 0.64 "Everyone's head is a cheap movie show." - -- Jeff G. Bone -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBGGJgZqvqlrLPr5YRAg1jAKC28jz5X/xbai+c1ToDzLvycjsvuwCgq0bz MQFv2Ma5v4DYiJBOBvDTnCs= =A+oZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Teaching Spamassassin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 09 August 2004 19:48:07, Erylon Hines wrote: > On Monday 09 August 2004 03:01 pm, SME Server Admin wrote: > | Hiya > | > | Right. i've had Spam Assassin running for a few weeks now, and have built > | up about 300 or so messages in my Spam/missed spam directory. The > | actually directory is: > | > | Local Folders / Spam / MissedSpam > | > | Now, I've been into shell and done as it asked, ie type in the following > | string. The first one was without a dot before Mail and the second was > | with it in. > | > | It's not working. This is in Kontact by the way. Can anyone help? > | > | TIA > | > | Elwyn > | > | > | [EMAIL PROTECTED] elwyn]$ sa-learn --mbox > | --spam /home/Elwyn/Mail/.spam.directory/MissedSpam/* > | > | Learned from 0 message(s) (0 message(s) examined). > | > | [EMAIL PROTECTED] elwyn]$ sa-learn --mbox > | --spam /home/Elwyn/.Mail/.spam.directory/MissedSpam/* > | > | Learned from 0 message(s) (0 message(s) examined). > | > | [EMAIL PROTECTED] elwyn]$ > > Your Mail directory isn't hidden, normally. Nor would be the > subdirectorys, the /spam or /MissedSpam > > The command: > > $sa-learn --mbox --spam /home/Elwyn/Mail/spam/MissedSpam/* I beg to differ. The Mail directory for K-Mail since (I believe) 3.1 *is* a hidden directory, while the sub-directories in it are not. No point hiding those is there, they live in a hidden directory. The rest of what you advised is probably accurate. I wouldn't know and don't intend to discover since spamassassin and I have never been more than coldly cordial to one another. I use bogofilter, far less horsepower required, easily configured, while just as accurate. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 22:25:49 up 3:11, 1 user, load average: 0.33, 0.15, 0.09 "My father? My father left when I was quite young. Well actually, he was asked to leave. He had trouble metabolizing alcohol." -- George Carlin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBGFAIZqvqlrLPr5YRAjIQAJ9lSX3DAobdXZPexforj2whmHB+WgCgq6GD reBTwsKxke/wN1LQw/BertI= =YRMM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Can't install jpackage sources
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 09 August 2004 19:18:07, Trey Sizemore wrote: > > Thanks, still getting the same errors as I posted earlier. Maybe > there's something wrong with the mirror? > > Anyone else having an issue with this? > > Thanks. It's quite possible the trouble that I was having updating is still causing us grief. I'll try an update and see what I get... You're right so I went and looked. The hdlist3.cz and the media info sub directory in the jpackage directory are all missing. That makes it a little tough, doesn't it. I told you there were mirror problems at present. What I don't understand is why the head honchos at Mandrake always make these changes sometime during the Alpha>Beta>RC part of the release cycle. It's almost as though all the "please test and report any bugs" blah blah blah is nothing but crap. How can you test what you can't access for installation? It's been a rather frustrating day, sorry. I don't mean to unload on you. You could always download the entire jpackage directory contents and install whatever parts you need manually. You'll still be able to use urpmi in the directory, you just won't have a graphical connection to read through the package list. There's a way to generate an hdlist in a directory full of packages so that you could use it as a local source, but it escapes me at the moment. Hold on: In the directory containing the rpms, I would do: genhdlist ./ I suppose that's the best I can do for now, sorry again. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 20:21:53 up 1:07, 1 user, load average: 0.20, 0.33, 0.71 Remember: Silly is a state of Mind, Stupid is a way of Life. -- Dave Butler -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBGD5JZqvqlrLPr5YRAkz9AKCBF48Tr4nE4ediUHLwLOWoOXvW4QCfdSjG JkUsj7ZzKGGYbtYdfHlp1oE= =G+ui -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Can't install jpackage sources
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 09 August 2004 17:54:05, Trey Sizemore wrote: > I've got Mandrake 10.1 beta1 installed and am in the process of doing > some upgrades. I've managed to get main, contrib, and PLF sources > installed, but I'm having some issues getting jpackage. I think this is > where I get the java packages from. > > Here's the error I'm getting (I've tried several jpackage mirrors with > the same result): > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] trey]# urpmi.addmedia jpackage > ftp://ftp.uio.no/linux/Mandrakelinux/devel/cooker/i586/media/jpackage > with media_info/hdlist.cz > added medium jpackage > examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz] > examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz] > examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz] > retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "jpackage"... > > ftp://ftp.uio.no/linux/Mandrakelinux/devel/cooker/i586/media/jpackage/media >_info/hdlist.cz > > ...retrieving failed: curl: (9) Couldn't cd to media_info > retrieval of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed > no hdlist file found for medium "jpackage" > examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.jpackage.cz] > problem reading synthesis file of medium "jpackage" > unable to update medium "jpackage" > > > Is this a problem with the mirrors or can I do something different? > > Thanks. Start with urpmi.removemedia -a and start over from scratch. The media additions that are copied below are what I'm using. They work. That's the best I can say about anything related to Mandrake mirrors today. I added PLF at the bottom so you just skip that one when you copy and paste if your choice has worked. I just like to give a complete answer. (-; The tree structure for the mirrors has changed again and that's causing aggravation and confusion. It should, I sincerely hope, be temporary. This will get you the jpackage list and whatever you wanted to install: urpmi.addmedia main ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/devel/cooker/i586/media/main with media_info/hdlist.cz urpmi.addmedia contrib ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/devel/cooker/i586/media/contrib with media_info/hdlist.cz urpmi.addmedia jpackage ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/devel/cooker/i586/media/jpackage with media_info/hdlist.cz urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/mandrake/cooker with hdlist.cz The reason I'm pushing you to the proxad mirror is simple, I know it's current. The rest I ain't so sure about. Have fun! Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 18:03:29 up 4 days, 6:56, 1 user, load average: 0.11, 0.24, 0.29 All is well that ends well. -- John Heywood -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBGBKlZqvqlrLPr5YRAtxzAJ0ar+e04zqW/nOgvqhGnzLcUB6hzACfUk4K TleiPuYqGHbU7dAmCQNhJxw= =0NqX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to determine that Firestarter is running?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 09 August 2004 16:29:04, Thereidos wrote: > Dnia pon 9. sierpnia 2004 22:14, Charlie Mahan napisaÅ: > > I would wonder too. Are you using Firestarter because you had good > > results with it somewhere else or just because? Shorewall is default in > > Mandrake and seems to work in an acceptable manner most of the time. > > Dan's Guardian has also received decent reviews in the past. I'm just > > curious. > > Alright. I think I'm done with it. Now I'm using shorewall (which is easier > to configure than I thought). > > Just a short question : How did you manage to make your 113 port (auth / > ident) stealth? I've added following to the /etc/shorewall/rules : > DROPnet fw tcp 113 > DROPfw net tcp 113 > > And the last one : to make shorewall for example drop packets (incomming > and outcomming) on certain port should I add two rules (like above) or can > I do it some other way? - From man iptables: - -L, --list [chain] List all rules in the selected chain. If no chain is selected, all chains are listed. As every other iptables command, it applies to the specified table (filter is the default), so NAT rules get listed by iptables -t nat -n -L Please note that it is often used with the -n option, in order to avoid long reverse DNS lookups. It is legal to specify the -Z (zero) option as well, in which case the chain(s) will be atomically listed and zeroed. The exact output is affected by the other arguments given. The exact rules are suppressed until you use iptables -L -v and - -F, --flush [chain] Flush the selected chain (all the chains in the table if none is given). This is equivalent to deleting all the rules one by one. You don't need to be super user to read the man pages for iptables, or much of anything else actually. Just a terminal and the time. If you want to pass Steve Gibson's "True Stealth" test (the grc.com Shields Up test) or Sygate's Security Scan or... add these rules to your basic shorewall configuration at the end of the Rules file: Source. Dest. Proto. Port. DROPnet fw icmp 8 DROPfw net icmp DROPnet fw tcp 113 Be aware that dropping everything this way may make some things not work the way you expect them to. Dropping the pings for example (icmp) from your ISP may cause dropped connections. Dropping the auth packets from the ISP may cause nasty side effects as well. Reading the first page at the linked site will probably tell you more about the shoreline firewall, Mandrake's implementation of it, and the NetFilter packet facility built into the kernel, than you'll ever really want to know. The page also has links to FAQs, to examples of how to set the rules for specific situations including stand alone systems directly connected to the internet, etc. It all works, Just start reading and scream when you need help. (-: Someone will tackle the questions, that's why the list is here. http://www.shorewall.net/ Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 17:32:44 up 4 days, 6:26, 1 user, load average: 0.20, 0.83, 1.00 Life's the same, except for the shoes. - - The Cars -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBGA4dZqvqlrLPr5YRAggCAJ9hq1jQUNJv4sGqxtlvea9TYCQNTQCdGbSJ Ihwl7eh01Ck5NkMIRztogug= =l6c4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to determine that Firestarter is running?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 09 August 2004 13:50:01, Thereidos wrote: > Dnia pon 9. sierpnia 2004 21:18, Charlie Mahan napisaÅ: > > That's about all I know about the software, sorry. It's also probably all > > I'll ever know about it for the simple reasons that I have a radically > > edited set of rules that I use for iptables that is specific to my > > environment, and the only "Fire Wall" I even try to use is shorewall. > > That's just because it's the default in Mandrake installs and if I don't > > know what to do with the glitches I'm doing my customers a disservice. > > I think I'm beginning to get the picture. Short question : if I'd like to > use some bit torrent client listen on certain port should this port remain > to be stealth or should I leave it open? I do believe (HEY! somebody check this please?) the only way you need to open anything for any bit-torrent client would be if you were the "super seed" and were hosting the torrent yourself. For connections to existing torrents I don't think you need to open anything that won't be open enough to acknowledge the torrent. Open the app by clicking the torrent link I mean. Responses then are restricted to that link and the running application, and the firewall should ignore them since they are mostly "ack and syn" packets. It must work something along those lines. The only way I can make apollon or gtk-gnutella run is to open the relevant ports manually before I start. Then I have to re-edit my rules for iptables after I shut the application down, which I find a time consuming pain in the assets. That makes it hard to grab family video etc without waiting for Canada Post and the U.S.P.S., which in combination seem a lot slower than the Pony Express ever was. But during the first 2 days of the recent torrent release of 10.1 Beta1 I uploaded over 2 GB without touching the firewall. 60 Kbytes/second upload speed average. I had to shut it down so my ISP wouldn't scream at me. > PS. I'm still wondering why my firestarter window keeps crashing... I would wonder too. Are you using Firestarter because you had good results with it somewhere else or just because? Shorewall is default in Mandrake and seems to work in an acceptable manner most of the time. Dan's Guardian has also received decent reviews in the past. I'm just curious. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 14:00:06 up 4 days, 2:53, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.15, 0.12 Your manuscript is both good and original, but the part that is good is not original and the part that is original is not good. -- Samuel Johnson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBF9sQZqvqlrLPr5YRAo+uAJ0aRBHkuAZyalp32JwNz/pFfPy25ACgj3Yp nN3O3qOTvVMnNmcL5omQuF4= =ovZF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE won't open folders but Gnome will
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 09 August 2004 11:50:11, Julie Sloan wrote: > > That was my fault. When I install a system one of the first things > > I do is change the display manager from mdkkdm to kdm. > > don't tell me how - maybe I'll find it on my own :) (like I don't > have enough "finding" to do already LOL) I'll tell you anyway Julie. Mandrake Control Centre System. The traffic light is the configuration tool for the display manager. WARNING!!! If you change it you'll be kicked to the new log-in screen and have to log back in. Don't say I didn't... WARNING!!! > Great! thanks. wish I'd known about startx a month ago. :P > I found myself there and since I had never SET a pw I panicked & > reinstalled. And the installation discs wouldn't work the second > time (wonder what thatwas about?) So I had to wait for new discs. > Blah blah blah ancient history. On to newer and better problems... Problems are nothing more than opportunities for personal growth Julie. I'm sure you've learnt that. > > It's difficult to know what terminology to use sometimes. I > > apologize. > > no need I was apologizing not for what may have come across as impatience that time, but in advance if I ever actually do display impatience. To you or anyone else. OK? > okay, here's: > > # kdeinit > QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used > QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used > QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used > QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used > kbuildsycoca running... So obviously something is wonky in the KDE system on that machine. Read Stephen's replies again and ask questions. Someone knowledgeable around here will likely help get you back to "normal." What's normal? (-; > > You seem to have either lost contact with the part of the display > > that manages the file management system or lost the connection > > that it's running on or lost permissions on those directories you > > are having trouble accessing. Did you do anything with any files > > or 'folders' in your user's space while running as super user? > > it's possible but not likely. I look in var logs to find out? Find a hidden file in your /home directory called xsessionerrors. If you can read it you may learn what went boom. Since you can't seem to do anything in KDE at the moment you may have to open it with nautilus or midnight commander or...? emacs or vi maybe? > > through you. But if I say you need to be in SU mode to run a > > command successfully it's because I know that method works. > > okay okay lesson learned. Don't be mad at me.:) Never. I don't get mad often. Just even. lol > thanks for your help.Right now I'm in command-line culture-shock, > but luckily I don't have a deadline to get comfortable with it. > > J I wish I'd been of some help Julie. You're welcome anyway. For that culture shock I recommend intensive therapy, starting here: http://www.onlamp.com/linux/cmd/ A directory of Linux commands taken from the book Linux in a Nutshell. It's something I think should be required reading for anyone that grew up with Windows. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 13:21:37 up 4 days, 2:15, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.13, 0.15 Every program is a part of some other program, and rarely fits. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBF9G5ZqvqlrLPr5YRAmdtAKCHXYW2PJLB3cmQC6dz/17CzwTjlgCgmyaX QlWUsaS9i6LulEI0d+hPa0o= =+yie -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to determine that Firestarter is running?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 09 August 2004 12:09:12, Thereidos wrote: > Now I've noticed that iptables are run during bootup (drakxservices says so > too). Running kmyfirewall says that the firewall is running but www.grc.com > says otherwise. I have to click 'run firewall' in kmyfirewall to really > make it work... > May it be that kmyfirewall actually doesn't write (?) iptables' script? It's quite possible. kmyfirewall runs only after KDE initializes so I seriously doubt it's doing you any good. Unless of course you don't start the network at boot. BTW if iptables is running at boot, and if you haven't flushed the rules, the fire walling should be initialized when iptables loads using the previous rule set. If it's not something is configured somewhere. - From a quick Google search: An IPTables based firewall configuration tool for the KDE Desktop Environment running on Linux based systems. and: http://kmyfirewall.sourceforge.net/ http://km0838.keymachine.de/~kmyfirewall/index.php?kat=faq That's about all I know about the software, sorry. It's also probably all I'll ever know about it for the simple reasons that I have a radically edited set of rules that I use for iptables that is specific to my environment, and the only "Fire Wall" I even try to use is shorewall. That's just because it's the default in Mandrake installs and if I don't know what to do with the glitches I'm doing my customers a disservice. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 13:04:05 up 4 days, 1:57, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.12, 0.15 Beware of a dark-haired man with a loud tie. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBF84HZqvqlrLPr5YRAoJhAJ9dYMJU5ld3UGZGwt4ppyYCbjVEXwCgrQQY AlYlQ15PcYt3LeZBDaDKdGo= =6sTP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Oooooh! That's gotta hurt!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 09 August 2004 12:35:12, Stephen Kühn wrote: > On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 02:47, JoeHill wrote: > > I've had to roll back a few client's machines already when they stopped > > functioning properly after doing a full 'Windows Update', so I'm not > > surprised at this: > > > > Quote: > > > > "In the memo to employees, seen by CNET News.com, IBM's internal > > technology department stated that Windows XP SP2 will "change the > > behavior of (Web browser) Internet Explorer and cause some application > > incompatibilities." The memo also noted that some "high-profile, > > business-critical applications are also known to conflict with SP2." > > > > http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5302346.html > > > > It *does* go on to say that testing before implementation is routine > > (duh), but in this case I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that SP2 is going to > > be one of the biggest boondoggles in MS history, second only to XP > > itself. > > How dare you bad-mouth Microsoft and it's OS named XP (both Home and > Pro); that is my living mate. If it ain't broke, I don't eat. If it > doesn't break, I don't eat. If it wasn't a huge kludge of crap and > unstable as a radioactive particle, I wouldn't eat. If it wasn't buggy > as a four day dead 'roo carcass, I wouldn't eat. > > ALL HAIL MICROSOFT! > > stephen kuhn - proprietor This is even more off topic and maybe even more derogatory. But towards Apple. It was posted on the local L.U.G. mailing list this morning: A good Mac rant (I don't think Apple will use this guy in their switch campaign): http://www-edlab.cs.umass.edu/~ahelblin/misc/mac.html Warning: Requires Flash plug-in, contains vulgarities (coarse language but that phrase may be copyright someone or other) and violence towards what appears to be a Macintosh tower and an iMac. I'm still lmao but I'm no longer on the floor. (-; See everyone? We snipe at someone other than "Poor Microsoft" around here. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 12:56:36 up 4 days, 1:50, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.18, 0.17 If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then you clearly don't understand the situation. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBF8p9ZqvqlrLPr5YRAon3AJ9+uqmQ2tZX93KEuc8aeKoFze2M0gCfeKLc oEDH5Q4QQiVeXOCsWM06YcI= =I6Hx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to determine that Firestarter is running?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 09 August 2004 03:02:03, Thereidos wrote: > Alright, now goes my story : > I've installed Firestarter and configured it using it's wizard. Everything > seemed alright but the main window kept crashing... so I switched to > KMyFireWall and configured it. > Test at www.grc.com showed that all my ports were stealth. That's good. So > I ran 'install firewall'. It showed up that my firewall is configured and > will run at system bootup. > > I've made the same test right after system booted and firewall wasn't > running... To make everything work again I must run kmyfirewall and click > 'run firewall'. > What might be the problem 'round here? > May it be iptables (they doesn't seem to start at bootup)? Good question, and yes to run a "Firewall" you need iptables running at boot. They usually are shown as stopped after boot, but that's because they only need to run long enough to load "the rules" in memory. What people call a fire wall is actually a wrapper of some sort to pass rule sets to iptables which passes them to NetFilter, which is a module or an integral part of the kernel, at boot to help control the ports on your system. Among other things. Confused yet? (; The wrappers are supposedly designed to make it easy to pass rules down the chain that close and open ports so that services required for your set-up and configuration are able to run and access what they require. Notice I said supposedly? You can (as super user in a terminal) use chkconfig iptables on or in the drakxservices menu put a check mark for start at boot and then hit the start button or I believe there's another interfering wrapper available now called drakfw for this purpose that is intended to wave the baton for the whole parade. I'd do the drakxservices thing. It's the simplest graphically. If drakfw is on the list you may want to check that as well. Charlie Hmmm... A passing thought. If each kernel in the disparate systems around the world were actually an artificial neuron, and if all of those neurons are connected by wires, fibre optics, various electromagnetic frequencies etc,; and if the only difference between the human mind and a single celled life form is the number of neuron linkages, have we built an electronic amoeba? How long before the number of connections is on the close order of that of the human brain and it wakes up? Maybe that's really why there are firewalls, to keep the number of connections below that critical mass. C. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 10:34:10 up 3 days, 23:27, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.17, 0.18 Today is what happened to yesterday. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBF60GZqvqlrLPr5YRAt5aAJ9y0J9N97DV/9oQKfH1MH8YYlmaEQCeLAzx 1hoJjgxbxMV9JDK8DRe8Pk0= =ofVx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Multifunction time again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 09 August 2004 06:44:06, Trevor Rhodes wrote: > Hi Folks, > > It's time to get me one of these thingamabobs. I want one that prints and > scans under mandrake 10 with copy and fax standalone. Anyone got one that > works? > > Regards > Trevor Rhodes Installed an HP yesterday that worked from the start. Stay away from Brother for now. I've never had any luck with them. Half way down the page I'm linking for you is a multi function section that has the rest of the recommendations I'd make. I have no argument with it: http://www.linuxprinting.org/suggested.html Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 10:58:36 up 3 days, 23:52, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.06, 0.08 Certainly there are things in life that money can't buy, But it's very funny -- did you ever try buying them without money? -- Ogden Nash -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBF65sZqvqlrLPr5YRAiTVAKCaXH1NisFJIKQtAOCf4yytE4kPsgCdHfJ4 BVmZislDZ/NOd6ytfTUZ+Dg= =mrhg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] When clicking on CD ROM icon Cervisia starts, not konqueror
On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 06:35 pm, John Richard Smith sent these thoughts: > John Zoetebier wrote: > >When I put a CD ROM in the PC an icon is shown on the desktop. > >When clicking on CD ROM icon Cervisia starts, not konqueror. > >And I get this error message; > >remote CVS working folders not supported > > > >This is the entry from /etc/fstab: > >/dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto > >umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 > > > >How can I get konqueror to start from CD ROM icon ? > > What is Cervisia ? > John I only just nabbed this, but you might have to go to file associations and remove Konqueror from that. I once had it associated to inodes. Don't know how? I had a quick look but couldn't find cervisia in my quick chase. Maybe I am wrong, but something to look for. Charlie. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ Wisdom is always an over match for strength. _Phaedrus *** This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE won't open folders but Gnome will
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 08 August 2004 23:05:11, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 14:59:49 +1000 > > Stephen Kühn wrote: > > but then again, at least I have beer > > That would not be an option for me,,I just drank my last one and an to > drunk to be sold anymore )-: > > > > Charles I have one you can have for free Charles. If you like Molson Canadian. In the "Tall Boy" cans. Think mini keg. How drunk does one need to be to turn *that* down? Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 23:10:57 up 3 days, 12:04, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.24, 0.29 I'd like some JUNK FOOD ... and then I want to be ALONE -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBFwgWZqvqlrLPr5YRAkVwAKCnMqsbvhGueu0tRp7VAOtTWYf0XwCdFGuD OWmrkVfeogTYS2aS+GMVzA0= =n81a -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Trying to reinstall
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 08 August 2004 16:15:04, Stephen Kühn wrote: > On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 05:18, Aron Smith wrote: > > thanks guys as I suspected it was the seat keyboard interface that was > > malfunctioning. i was copying an iso to disk instead of burning an image > > b Duh > > \thanks smitty > > It might be a suggestion to that that interface checked. Quite often, > the chair-to-keyboard interface malfunctions or does not process > instruction sets as you would normally expect. I know from daily > experience that this is one of the most undependable parts of the > equation and in troubleshooting computer issues, one has to take into > account that particular interface more often than not. I would suggest, > prior to the next troubleshooting session, to lubricate the interface > with vast quantities of any alcohol based specially bottled lubricant - > this assists the interface in processing instructions sets. Also > unplugging the interface for a few hours at a time helps as well - for > some strange reason. > > stephen kuhn - proprietor Stephen must be the nicest, most eloquent, and profoundly polysyllabic gentleman that ever verbally slashed a friend's throat. In public. Beer me! Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 16:46:55 up 3 days, 5:40, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.06, 0.07 "Survey says..." - -- Richard Dawson, weenie, on "Family Feud" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBFq4bZqvqlrLPr5YRAjmHAKCmstJJLAdmmT3yikkj2wk7B3GlBQCfbXW6 AYHdHchTo3EOsjbBaBqG9qs= =iZ85 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Do I need to start over
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 08 August 2004 15:47:03, BJ Tracy wrote: > > SNIP > Thanks for all your help. De nada. > > If you want a clean slate I _strongly_ recommend that you use the custom > > partitioning mode but first do a Google search for partitioning and read > > a lot. > > There's a ton of stuff to read and I have several books as well. Don't procratinate now. Eventually you will want to get it over with. I know you want to do it, do it now, you won't have a problem... > > That's why so many newcomers end up > > reinstalling and changing their partition structures so many times. Not > > enough research and too much enthusiasm. > > Guilty. Just like a kid at Cmas. Hey! I resemble that remark! The day I stop answering to newbie somebody please kill me. > > You're welcome bj. I haven't helped you yet though. Here's some personal > > recommendations; > > > > When you do the reinstall (and I know you want to so let's get that out > > of the way now) set a large enough _separate /home partition_ that your > > user(s) won't run out of personal space. Also since you have enough drive > > space for anything you may want to do, the primary master should include > > in my opinion: > > > > / the "root" of the system where everything hangs. Choose a size that > > seems comfy then reduce it. I never go more than 800 MB > > Question: does the "/" root have to be on every drive? No. Just the primary installation drive. Wherever you end up having that. > > As minimums, and I'd choose the JFS filesystem rather than ext3 (old tech > > with a journal grafted on) > > JFS is IBM's technology and it works exceptionally well, seems > > completely stable, and is fast. I'd use it for everything. > > As for ext 3 or JFS, will I see a difference on my GUI? I'm not a > programmer, and I don't do any development (yet), just a computer > nutHowever I do a lot of pictures and genealogy as well as my business > stuff. Just curious. Not unless you are so blazing fast yourself that you don't actually need a system. JFS is just a better file system with a better journal. ext2 is a hang over from the '60s and ext3 is just ext2 with a journal. JFS is fast and clean, seems great at 'disaster recovery' and seems to be invisible in operation. What more do you want? XFS is for _really big_ iron. It's from SGI, the people that build the systems with the funny name...oh yeah Cray. > > The other drive or drives, depending on how many you keep in the box, are > > up to you to choose partition sizes and mount points but I'd still > > recommend using JFS. > > My first two drives are Master and Slave. Does it matter if the (NEW) 250 > GB drive is a Master or Slave on the cable it's on? Sure it does bj. Where do you want the disks and in what order? lol As long as you don't try to have 2 masters or two slaves on one channel. You'll get a scolding for that kind of behaviour. By the installer. Or the BIOS. Or both. But _not_ from me! No, never that...much. I've done it myself a couple times over the last 10 years. Exhausted brain fart mode. > Thanks again, > You are a very appreciated resource. > bj You are welcome, but I thought a resource was defined as something valuable to be hoarded or exploited. I'm thinking there ain't that much here. (; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 16:26:10 up 3 days, 5:19, 1 user, load average: 0.21, 0.10, 0.08 Is truth not truth for all? -- Natira, "For the World is Hollow and I have Touched the Sky", stardate 5476.4. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBFqxHZqvqlrLPr5YRAj7PAJ0W5/daMAPRjrS1ekW9vgCQdFBmDwCaAhn4 ngyFB08MMf92b3ud06OCgZM= =N8rR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE won't open folders but Gnome will
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 08 August 2004 14:06:02, Julie Sloan wrote: > Someone please point me in the right direction - Yesterday suddenly I > wasn't able to open folders in the KDE GUI anymore. Hop on over to > Gnome and they open just fine. How did I screw this up? > > Uh, and how did I manage to change my line width to 45 characters (in > Ximian)? > > thanks, J Are you sure you screwed something up or did kdeinit just crash? Try restarting the X-Server while you're in the log-in manager screen. Just for fun open a terminal when you're already in KDE and become super user then type kdeinit and strike the Enter key. Then try to open a directory. For some reason the xserver seems to get confused sometimes, probably when your IP# changes. Depends on what your hostname is set to or where it comes from but I thought that only affected Gnome. As for the character limit, what application? Or do you mean everywhere? I don't do Ximian. Sorry. If none of that helps scream for help and someone that knows what they're on about may take a swing at it. (-: OK? Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 15:15:13 up 3 days, 4:08, 2 users, load average: 0.25, 0.28, 0.39 The Unixverse ends on Tue, 19 Jan 2038 03:14:07 + -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBFpplZqvqlrLPr5YRAqnNAJ9vgOaXgxGNG35sHfibtzNyZPmKHQCfd11x esvGA6gE4Daa0lKFOh3Qyq8= =TPPK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Do I need to start over
ay now) set a large enough _separate /home partition_ that your user(s) won't run out of personal space. Also since you have enough drive space for anything you may want to do, the primary master should include in my opinion: / the "root" of the system where everything hangs. Choose a size that seems comfy then reduce it. I never go more than 800 MB /swap the default that pops up when you use the partitioning tools in the installer is usually as good a guide as any. Unless you intend to edit huge files then double (or x2.5 or? you decide) whatever the recommended size is. /usr since this is where all the packages live make it big enough. 5, 6, ? GB, or more? You decide. 6 is what I used and I installed a load of development packages. Roughly 3.5 GB free at the moment. /tmp If you have a DVD drive, especially a burner, or even a CD-R/RW you'll want this twice as big as a blank disk at a minimum. I usually pick 3 GB or more as a baseline. cdrecord uses /tmp by default and there has to be enough space. Also you'll likely be moving things around a lot at first so you need the space to move the 6 GB from partition /foo to partition /bar. /var logs, mail, spool, used for cache during package installation make it big enough but don't accept the *huge* size the installer always wants to use. Same size as /usr is probably about enough. /home this you have to think about. I don't know your usage or needs. Good luck. As minimums, and I'd choose the JFS filesystem rather than ext3 (old tech with a journal grafted on) or Reiser (moving target) or XFS (this ain't a "mainframe") JFS is IBM's technology and it works exceptionally well, seems completely stable, and is fast. I'd use it for everything. The other drive or drives, depending on how many you keep in the box, are up to you to choose partition sizes and mount points but I'd still recommend using JFS. It's your system so it's all up to you but I do like the way JFS works for me. Holler if you need advice on a proposed partition table or whatever, somebody will see and respond. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 09:43:11 up 2 days, 22:36, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.07 Once is happenstance, Twice is coincidence, Three times is enemy action. -- Auric Goldfinger -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBFl1mZqvqlrLPr5YRAraPAKC5EoDrVLs55G9C6f3ijr3ypisgtQCdGoNY +T7lTMBRo3cVvwCysCGwC0k= =kzq4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Trying to reinstall
On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 10:25 am, Hoyt Bailey sent these thoughts: > What does one do to properly burn them? This is probably very stupid > > > question? Further to this, if one receives the copied ISO's instead > > of the properly burned ones, is it possible to burn them properly > > onto another CD after copying them to the hard drive? > > > > Or are you having a lend of me? > > > > Charlie > > Run K3b click on Tools>CD>Burn CD image. Thank you. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason. ___Oscar Wilde *** This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Trying to reinstall
On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 10:02 am, Stephen Kühn sent these thoughts: > > Or are you having a lend of me? > > > > Charlie > > Generally, I use either Arson or K3b to open the ISO image for burning; > it is a simple mistake that can be made...mostly by Californians, > though... > > stephen kuhn - proprietor Thank you Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ Follow the path of the unsafe, independent thinker. Expose your ideas to controversy. Speak your mind and fear less the label of 'crackpot' than the stigma of conformity. And on issues that seem important to you, stand up and be counted at any cost. __Thomas J Watson *** This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Trying to reinstall
On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 08:24 am, Stephen Kühn sent these thoughts: > On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 08:16, Aron Smith wrote: > > et wrote: > > > On Sunday 08 August 2004 06:01 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > >>On Saturday 07 August 2004 05:48 pm, Aron Smith wrote: > > >>>I cannot get the Mdk 10.0 disks to boot ether disk 1 or disk 2 > > >>>when I put it in the drive and reboot it is ignored > > >>>yes my cmos is set up for cdrom boot > > >>>there is something simple here (besides me) butam having a brain fart. > > >>>TIA smitty > > >> > > >>Well, if your BIOS is setup to boot from CDROM (and you have the > > >> devices in the correct order) then I dunno. > > >> > > >>Do you have more than 1 CDROM? Sometimes it will only boot from a > > >> certain one. > > >> > > >>Are the CDs damaged or abused in any way? > > > > > > did you copy the iso to a disk?? which is wrong.. > > > > Yes i did > > I can almost imagine Aron having the schytz with this on a Saturday > arvo; mistakenly copying ISO's to a CD instead of burning them > properly...wonder if he's in Winders whilst doing this exercise... > > stephen kuhn - proprietor What does one do to properly burn them? This is probably very stupid question? Further to this, if one receives the copied ISO's instead of the properly burned ones, is it possible to burn them properly onto another CD after copying them to the hard drive? Or are you having a lend of me? Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ Superstition, idolatry, and hypocrisy have ample wages, but truth goes a-begging. __Martin Luther *** This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Do I need to start over
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 07 August 2004 14:28:02, BJ Tracy wrote: > Hello All (again), I'm gonna chop this up to respond to specific points. Hope that doesn't mess with anyone's mind. If I weren't the one doing it it would probably mess with mine. > Let me make this as straight forward and short as possible but I need to > give you Linux/Mandrake brains some history. Oh! You asked for a "Mandrake brain" and got stuck with me. Damn! I'd feel slighted if it were me. > After much research on my part about switching to Linux and then with all > the security issues with Exposer(Explorer) I was fed up and made the move. Valid reasons but not the only ones. > However my confidence was not there so I opted for a dual boot system(bad > mistake). Here's the harddrive layout of what I had - Cdrive was 80GB and > had XP on it and I had a Ddrive of 120GB. So thinking I wanted to do a > dual boot system I went and bought a 250GB for Linux. Tried the dual boot > system and was not happy. So I tried to install Mandrake 10.0 and erase XP > but (Not thinking) it put it back on the 250 Gb drive. So I went in and > Installed Mandrake on the original Cdrive(after making copies of my data > and pics) and had Mandarke do the partitioning. Everything seems to be ok > but when I look at the Hard Disk on my desktop there is just one. What do you mean you had Mandrake do the partitioning? See below for an explanation of the question. The dual boot idea wasn't necessarily a mistake. I "officially" dual booted Mandrake and Windows 98 SE for almost 2 years. Suddenly one day I realized Mandrake had run continuously for 63 days with no reboots. Windows hadn't booted for over 12 months. I salvaged the disk space and gave away the Windows 98 disks. > NOW- I go into system/config/mountpoints and look at the drives in there > partition state and it is strange. > hda - has ext3 and swap details > hdb - has NOTHING for details > hdc - has ext3 ans swap details The mistake(s) you made was probably two-fold. First; when you "had Mandrake do the partitioning" did you do "Use Free Space" or "Erase Entire Disk" or Custom Partitioning" or??? If custom, did you click the tabs for the other drives and assign mount points? If not you basically told Mandrake it wasn't allowed to touch them. Sort of an ignore order. hda has a Mandrake install because that was the last one you did, hdc has an old Mandrake install because that was the previous one, but, again, you didn't tell the boot loader or the OS what to do with all those wonderful partitions. The tables were recognized but... Also depending on the security level you chose at install you may never see the other disks/partitions in user land. Coming in as a self proclaimed "fed up" soon to be ex Windows customer you may have gotten a bit eager since Mandrake allows you to choose the security level. BTW "Standard" is higher than XP can get without a lot of help. Before I make another point (and there is more than one to be made) is it your intent to *never* put Windows back on this system? > What do I need to do? Do I have to start over AGAIN?(bummer) > and a footnote, if I restart my pc I get a message that says "HardDrive > Config error - sda was removed" one time and then the next time is says > it was added. I don't see why you'd need to start over unless you aren't happy with the partition tables you have now. There may be ways to correct any problems without anything so drastic. You must have harddrake starting at boot (Mandrake Control Centre, System, Services) and it's trying to guess what you want done with all that drive space and possibly conflicting mount points, etc. plus the fact you probably have a boot record on drive hdc and another on hda now as well.. The simplest thing to do will depend upon the answers to the questions above. Plus others. Talk to us, please. > Sorry for the length of this. > Please advise > bj Yeah. It's a tad longer now, isn't it? (-; Post the answer, give details of the system and what you intend to do and someone with a brain will definitely jump in and correct me. Assuming I have a chance for another reply. (lol) OK? Regards; Charlie P.S.; Now that I've tried to start the ball rolling to help you please get rid of the Reply To: setting in your K-Mail client. It's a pain to "demand" a personal reply on a community help list. Please. C. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 14:34:06 up 2 days, 3:27, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.14, 0.25 I have a very good DENTAL PLAN. Thank you. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Versio
Re: [newbie] Alt sysreq keys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 07 August 2004 02:13:02, Paul wrote: > Hi all, > > I am wondering about the alt-sysreq keys to use when a system hangs. > > What I found so far is: > > Alt+Sysreq+R forces keyboard into XLATE mode > Alt+Sysreq+E forces an init 6 to the kernel > Alt+Sysreq+S syncs all your disks > Alt+Sysreq+B boots the system > Alt-SysReq-U force remount of all filesystems readonly > > Is this correct? > And what is the best sequence to use these keys when needed? > > It seems to me that R S U B (or E) would be the way to go. > > Thanks, > Paul Close Paul. I'll quoute Tom Brinkman here; "Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring Sort of an easy way to remember it. Google; magic sysrq keys; http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&q=magic+sysrq+keys&spell=1 Some pdf and a few web pages with good explanations. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 02:51:50 up 1 day, 15:45, 2 users, load average: 1.07, 1.11, 1.11 Although golf was originally restricted to wealthy, overweight Protestants, today it's open to anybody who owns hideous clothing. -- Dave Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBFJqwZqvqlrLPr5YRAvtQAJ9bX9hJahjdftdjJOPYgh09OEdbEQCeP01a GHtfIlDP1H4E5Mzi56ig9f0= =NOP1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Starting folding at home automatically... Charlie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 06 August 2004 10:31:10, C. Tresenriter wrote: > I must have misunderstood you. > > I have kde set to save the session when booting up and had the > folding client running in a terminal on an unused desktop but on > rebooting it didn't start. > > Obviously there's something else I need to do. > What is it I'm missing? > > Curt I hadn't checked to see if it would work yet so it's my fault, not anything you missed. Besides I set my Session Manager to start with a Manually Saved Session so there may be differences there as well as the fact that I'm running cooker. I wonder if KDE Auto-Start would handle it. I'll do some more research when i have a few minutes. For now you may want to use the script Paul posted. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 10:47:29 up 23:40, 2 users, load average: 1.01, 1.11, 1.08 Each man is his own prisoner, in solitary confinement for life. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBE7lYZqvqlrLPr5YRAsjnAJsF1W1OgtDeXfGyln/XWuyltyaklgCeN+g4 D7rpx190eTHUezJ1tN+PWwI= =Ozw0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Starting folding at home automatically... Charlie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 06 August 2004 10:31:10, C. Tresenriter wrote: > I must have misunderstood you. > > I have kde set to save the session when booting up and had the > folding client running in a terminal on an unused desktop but on > rebooting it didn't start. > > Obviously there's something else I need to do. > What is it I'm missing? > > Curt Sloppy software the uni is offering for people trying to help. If started by the method mentioned in my previous post the program runs, but not in the directory it lives in. It starts all over again and clutters the home directory. Maybe because I didn't register a user name and have been doing the units anonymously. Use the script I think. I don't like surprises. Could you tell? Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 12:05:17 up 1 day, 58 min, 2 users, load average: 0.87, 0.63, 0.76 Ben, why didn't you tell me? -- Luke Skywalker -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBE8k+ZqvqlrLPr5YRAt7hAJ4i314dIWd3a0DgyRoih6X7KIcsJQCeM2FF tmv9GqL9uiEfOjNdkRhLSNc= =izkk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Starting folding at home automatically... Charlie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 06 August 2004 10:31:10, C. Tresenriter wrote: > I must have misunderstood you. > > I have kde set to save the session when booting up and had the > folding client running in a terminal on an unused desktop but on > rebooting it didn't start. > > Obviously there's something else I need to do. > What is it I'm missing? > > Curt OK after a bit of experimentation I've discovered that you can have the program running by making a link to the executable in ~/.kde/Autostart but it will run in the background and you won't see the progress. If, like me, you don't allow applications to sing out to the world until you want a connection, that may not be a good thing. Besides I had a habit of glancing at the Konsole it was running in to see how I was doing and I don't know if I trust the software enough to run it "invisible." yet. I'm talking specifically of the protein folding from http://folding.stanford.edu so I don't know about any others. I'll find out when it finishes the work unit that it's doing. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 11:51:00 up 1 day, 44 min, 1 user, load average: 1.25, 1.08, 0.91 I took a fish head to the movies and I didn't have to pay. - -- Fish Heads, Saturday Night Live, 1977. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBE8dFZqvqlrLPr5YRAsUvAKCHWvp4ucbUQhxBA0oJZDIzHdXV+ACgqi/x nliqVTZhlODVzBSo6VS0sDg= =XK+2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to determine that Firestarter is running?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 06 August 2004 09:08:09, Paul Smith wrote: > > > > Absolutely and without question Yes. Just a matter of the right Rules > > used for NetFilter. > > Thanks, Charlie. I wish I knew what rules I should set on... and I have > already consulted Firestarter's site. The results of the test on my > computer at www.grc.com are below. > > Paul > I don't think I'll be much help with Firestarter Paul. I only tried it once and I believe that was 2 or more years ago. I just add the rules I want to /etc/shorewall/Rules and modify whatever else needs to be done in zones and so on then as super user; shorewall restart && service network start and I'm away. The difference between "Stealthed" and closed is almost as much semantics as real. Closed is Blocked is "Go Away!" Interactive to the point of mildly rude. Stealth is No Such Address, No Such Zone, "Are you in the right city or on the right planet?" as in rude to the point of the passing port scanner being logged on the inside but totally ignored from outward appearance. Does that make things a little more clear? You are secure, you just want to be more-so and I understand that. If you want to learn about Firestarter you should read "The Rules." http://firestarter.sourceforge.net/manual/rules.php The Stealth section is almost at the bottom of the page. Just take a deep breath and try to figure what it is that you want to do here, OK. You'll be fine. That restart above is just because I have shorewall start at boot but not the network. Not the first time, I don't usually allow new installs or upgrades to connect to any network until things are tuned to my liking. Just personal preference. From being bitten once or twice. (-; Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 09:12:12 up 22:05, 2 users, load average: 1.08, 1.10, 1.09 Swahili, n.: The language used by the National Enquirer to print their retractions. -- Johnny Hart -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBE6TBZqvqlrLPr5YRAipzAJ4x+Aq6mLQ/zIGvymetHCUuNDo8EQCfYdmf Ibq8ZYbcczpoBpX5QiAIlx8= =iE2R -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to determine that Firestater is running?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 06 August 2004 05:35:05, Paul Smith wrote: > Thanks, Dan. I have iptables installed on my computer. However, at the > site www.grc.com, it says that the majority of my ports are closed and > not stealth. Is it really possible to get all ports stealth? > > Paul Absolutely and without question Yes. Just a matter of the right Rules used for NetFilter. I tested at Shields Up a minute ago. Results: GRC Port Authority Report created on UTC: 2004-08-06 at 14:12:14 Results from scan of ports: 0, 21-23, 25, 79, 80, 110, 113, 119, 135, 139, 143, 389, 443, 445, 1002, 1024-1030, 1720, 5000 0 Ports Open 0 Ports Closed 26 Ports Stealth - - 26 Ports Tested ALL PORTS tested were found to be: STEALTH. TruStealth: PASSED - ALL tested ports were STEALTH, - NO unsolicited packets were received, - NO Ping reply (ICMP Echo) was received. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 08:12:34 up 21:06, 2 users, load average: 1.35, 1.27, 1.37 It is so very hard to be an on-your-own-take-care-of-yourself-because-there-is-no-one-else-to-do-it-for-you grown-up. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBE5KPZqvqlrLPr5YRAlTtAJ0Xp8thMFvJdM5g5nKcbT3S4fCKVACgrbmR 7XIXLgyqVZK4Xa9WXjJrcm4= =GS/5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] seti@home install/setup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 06 August 2004 04:42:04, C. Tresenriter wrote: > On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 01:16:11 -0600 > > Charlie Mahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for reminding me! I totally forgot to turn the protein > > folding back on when I switched to the new machine. Woops. Two > > weeks lost. Thank {Deity} the old system is still chugging away. > > > > Charlie > > - -- > > I just realized the same thing after a rare reboot. > What would I need to do to make the prog start automatically on > reboot? > Would a cron job do it? I suppose you could cron the start up, but why go to that trouble? If you're using either of the "main" window managers couldn't you just save the session and watch it resume after you log back in? I'm fairly positive kcron would do it, but the folding app runs in user space so why get root involved at all? I never shut K-Mail (Kontact now) or Mozilla-Thunderbird (different focus and e-mail server/accounts) or gkrellm and a few others down. They have their space and resume in that space when I log out and in or after a reboot and login. Since I choose to run cooker for testing and since new kernels, changing init-scripts etc are the norm in testing that's the easiest way for me. I stopped using a console (Ctrl+Alt+F1-6) for folding a while back, I just run it in konsole on desktop 6 and leave it there with any other command line apps that have to run unattended for long periods. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 07:54:39 up 20:48, 3 users, load average: 1.40, 1.50, 1.72 Earth is a beta site. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBE5DqZqvqlrLPr5YRAvtaAJ9ODGmdGg2yQGzEGGQNUYEyVcCpKgCcDFhQ DyqsmYxmxVAu0U9FCWrYbH0= =KUm3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] seti@home install/setup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 05 August 2004 23:50:11, Len Lawrence wrote: > Know what you mean. My laptop overheats as well. Watching DVDs is a pain > on my Sony VAIO because it freezes after an hour or so into the film. I > rarely run mine anyway for longer than two hours. > > The [EMAIL PROTECTED] link is http://folding.stanford.edu Thanks for reminding me! I totally forgot to turn the protein folding back on when I switched to the new machine. Woops. Two weeks lost. Thank {Deity} the old system is still chugging away. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 01:13:50 up 14:07, 2 users, load average: 1.14, 0.67, 0.36 The verdict of a jury is the a priori opinion of that juror who smokes the worst cigars. -- H. L. Mencken -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBEzA7ZqvqlrLPr5YRAvCSAKCZnziDf2FsiUXvqhR25k+cdPmKvACff0s+ Vhzsc0Ic+2TFDWsv97aL9hU= =oomS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On August 5, 2004 00:31:12, Tomas Tudja wrote: > Hello, > Format, fill with big files (movies) until there will be no space left > and format again. If electron microscope guys (probably there are much > cheaper ways to read data from disk only twice formatted) will find > anything, it will be only data from last copyed files. If electron guys > are working for RIAA, you are in trouble because of illegal copyes of > movies :>. But you need a working system to do it. There is no other way > to properly and safely clean the disk without damage. Define working system before you make such statements please. Booting from one of the many LiveCD disks available and using the tools available to mount, format, change fs type and format again is possible and easy. The drives can have previous data on them or not. It makes no difference. You have taken this _way_ farther than anyone needed for it to go. My *flippant* comments about electron microscopes were to illustrate that the original question wasn't specifically asking for a format that would make any data impossible to read because that is a difficult process and very expensive. I was trying to steer the original poster away from the "low level format" trap since it tends to damage old drives of unknown pedigree sometimes. The first point I made in my reply was that it's probably easier to use the original manufacturers tools to do the job, then I threw in some smart ass comments. > Little math lesson: > Let say there is an "empty place" on a disk. That's the place, where we > write the bite we want to be there. We have a 20G disk. There are > 171798691840 "empty places" > ( (((20 * 1024) * 1024) * 1024) * 8 = 171798691840 ). If we write a > file on disk, we can do it by 5MBps. That means we can fill 41943040 > "empty places" in 1 second. If we format a 20G partition with HardDrake, > it takes about 20 seconds (I don't remember the correct time). So, if we > format a disk (partition placed on entire disk), we are touching only > 838860800 "empty places" on the disk and 170959831040 are untouched and > containing old data. If we make two different formats (difrent > filesystems), we just decrease this number maybe by another 838860800 > and that is not enough. IT IS NEED TO TOUCH EVERY SINGLE BITE ON A DISK > TO BE SURE THERE IS NOTHING LEFT!!! Touching all bites on 20G disk takes > about 68 minutes by speed 5 MBps. What's the point? I openly stated that guarding against that type of forensic analysis was not going to be accomplished by what I was recommending. Are you trying to prove you are more capable and more intelligent than I? Fine you win. Much of the world fits that description. > Counts are only guesses (I really have no glue about writing speed on a > disk, but I thing it is something about 5 MBps. I guess there are really > only 60 seconds in each minute and only 1024 bytes in every single MB If I wanted to study math I'd enrol in University, wouldn't I? I don't have the time. Your points are made and that's fine, but there was no reason for them in my opinion, and this type of over technical extremism may be why so many people despise "geeks." Is there a reason that you felt a need to demonstrate your intellectual prowess? Does anyone care? > Sorry for bugging you, but it is very simple so I wonder, why is > everybody not understanding it with me. :> > > Tomas Tudja > 136 Church Road > N17 8AJ > London, UK > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://hysteria.sk/catcher What makes you think nobody understands these things but you? Or cares if you do? Or if I do? Who in the world cares if the data is unrecoverable with specialized tools, or through more drastic measures? I offered a choice of methods to accomplish the original poster's question. What did you offer? "Write movies to the disk!" You do know that many countries legal systems consider that an illegal activity, do you not? It's called illegal copying or piracy and worse. But your remarks about the R.I.A.Ass. prove that you do. I won't recommend illegal activity. Does using Outlook on Windows make you somebody special? I needed not to read your belittling B.S. on a list where I and many others volunteer our time attempting to help others. I definitely didn't need a primer course in kitchen arithmetic. With _absolute certainty_ I can unequivocally state that I didn't need some lurker popping in to tell me in a backhand (or direct either) way that I am a mental midget and less than the dust beneath his training wheels. To the rest of the list members; my humble apology for the diatribe. To Thomas Tudja; if I want your opinion I'll damned well give it to
Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On August 4, 2004 21:11:09, Todd Slater wrote: > I'm auctioning some hard drives and I want to wipe them and format them. > I had all kinds of trouble creating boot floppies for some reason--even > though no errors were reported I couldn't boot them. I ended up having > success with making a bootable cd. > > So I'm using autoclave to wipe the hard drive; is there a linux-based > tool (bootable floppy or cd) I can use to format the hd? What flavor > should I format it as? Do I need anything other than fdisk? > > Todd Most of the manufacturers have their own utilities package for formatting and diagnosing their drives. For example Maxtor has their "Max Blast" that's available as an ISO that burns fine under Mandrake and the resulting CD includes Dr-DOS to run on. With that tool you can even do a "deep format" to totally randomize the drives but be careful with that! I found some old drives don't take too well to this procedure, plus it's very time consuming. I'm fairly sure all the other manufacturers have similar tools but lately I haven't had to bother looking. So that memory has been flushed. (-: For hard drives that I'm not terribly worried about any forensic analysis being applied I usually just slave them to a working Linux install and format them, then change the file system type to something other than what was there originally and format them again. By the time the next OS is booted and formats to load on that drive the chances of any of your data still being susceptible to anything less than a tunnelling/scanning electron microscope or other *very expensive* tools are probably slim. I could be wrong but probably not. Sure I'm paranoid, but am I paranoid _enough?_ I've also used Knoppix or PCLinuxOS (livecd distributions) to do the deed when I was in a hurry. Lots of tools, just pick what's easiest for you. Good luck; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 21:29:16 up 2:09, 1 user, load average: 0.23, 0.31, 0.23 God is dead and I don't feel all too well either -- Ralph Moonen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBEa0RZqvqlrLPr5YRAin3AJ0W598FnH66NRS0FJ6Hoz9DIjFg+gCeNanj sXJd2meO/G+b+9SQEFzeorY= =PSK6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Bad signatures
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On August 3, 2004 18:19:06, Brenda Bell wrote: > Uh... I think my sig started this whole mess about seasons and > tourists... sorry :$ Don't be sorry. You'll get used to this bunch eventually. Hell they even let me hang around! > > Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org > > My dogs are from Edmonton... Lion Hill Kennel > I won't hold that against you. (-: Or your dogs. > Brenda Bell > Henniker (the only one on earth) > New Hampshire (the state with 5 seasons: black fly, tourist, foliage, ski > and mud) ... but we're not allowed to shoot the tourists :) BTW, I *like* your signature. But I was aware of the original it's exerpted and paraphrased from too. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Beta 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 20:09:37 up 10:16, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.13, 0.16 Man belongs wherever he wants to go. -- Wernher von Braun -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBEEZTZqvqlrLPr5YRAsrfAJ9IeW8E4++ObK+Sk+CPfDLEiWsrnQCeLW4t fey3k9FLlBBSWr6ee1fSSJ0= =H24I -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Bad signatures
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On August 3, 2004 17:53:05, et wrote: > On Tuesday 03 August 2004 01:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 16:52:17 + (UTC) > > > > Jonesy wrote: > > > We only have 3 seasons: Hunting, Ski, Tourist. > > > > On our recent trip to Costa Rica, we learned they only have two: > > rainy and rainier :) > > > > ) > > New Hampshire (the state with 5 seasons: black fly, tourist, foliage, ski > > and mud) ... but we're not allowed to shoot the tourists :) > > I hear in Alberta Canada, they have 2 seasons, winter and consrtuction. In > South Fla, we have wet and dry, but our saying about tourists goes "we > shoot tourists, don't we? Not quite et. It's winter and mosquito. 10 1/2 months of ice and snow followed by 6 weeks of swatting the provincial bird. What's all this sudden talk about tourists and target shooting anyway? Or is that why everyone here has started calling West Edmonton Mall "the skeet range" lately? PULL! (-: C. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 17:58:46 up 8:05, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.97, 1.07 "Mr. Watson, come here, I want you." -- Alexander Graham Bell -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBECexZqvqlrLPr5YRAlLpAJ0dLlKguCyzgHVxn7nHThjBmMfPjQCZAVGQ f9gcJ+SwJGXIwGqMobbJZOM= =bfoU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] After running chkrootkit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On August 3, 2004 14:02:02, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > I was rooted a couple weeks back, but since I was preparing to do a fresh > > install (the day it was first logged) it wasn't a big deal. I just > > formatted the drive and started over. The best part was the duplicate > > drive (USB) was clean so I didn't lose anything. > > If I was relatively a newbie and I had an alert from chkrootkit like > that I would waste no time backing up and reinstalling. Agreed, but if it hasn't happened, yet...knowledge is power. > How did they manage to break into your box? I've never had that happen > so I'm very curious as to what avenue they pursued. > > LX For me it was once, maybe twice, but I'll never know for sure since that drive died, in the 5 years I've been playing with Mandrake. Maybe before that too but I wouldn't have known since I didn't really know _anything_ before I got serious and dumped Windows. Truth be told I still don't know much. I don't know if I'd call it breakin, more an exploit of the network install, while I was doing an ftp upgrade of cooker to fix the oopsies in Alpha1. I usually test the installer at least twice on my own system and as many customer systems as I can get away with. I'll keep installing and testing but I'll be a hell of a lot more careful from here on out. That's what I get for keeping a system as my own that I built for a customer, but then he should have paid me. :) I hadn't connected the old box to act as a local mirror/file server yet and the drives in the new box were pristine/virgin. Seems it was a "man in the middle" exploit. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 14:36:44 up 4:43, 1 user, load average: 0.30, 0.22, 0.21 Q: What does a WASP Mom make for dinner? A: A crisp salad, a hearty soup, a lovely entree, followed by a delicious dessert. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBD/vVZqvqlrLPr5YRAtLeAJ45E8wJK1x/ZTyUlUG7XBo2w5TFagCfcuNn yKS9QJ0Mo4pCcjws8OMsL3E= =JKn4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] After running chkrootkit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On August 3, 2004 12:59:12, Trevor Rhodes wrote: > Hello Oh Great Guru Types, > > What the hell should I be doing now? > > Checking `lkm'... You have48 process hidden for readdir command > You have48 process hidden for ps command > Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed > > Regards > Trevor Rhodes I ain't a Guru! I did send another post with some possible helpful links though. I hope it makes it to the list, a lot of my replies have been going to the "Great Bit-Bucket in the Sky" it seems. But I have been a victim couple of times in the past. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 13:14:46 up 3:21, 1 user, load average: 0.20, 0.41, 0.32 There is Jackson standing like a stone wall. Let us determine to die, and we will conquer. Follow me. -- General Barnard E. Bee (CSA) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBD+TJZqvqlrLPr5YRApw8AJ4jea4XflGqEuJ2LLYYSoq5cMP5iQCfT3b7 p5zwJYTbDCs/QXzxz6pw7WY= =DgNj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] After running chkrootkit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On August 3, 2004 12:59:12, Trevor Rhodes wrote: > Hello Oh Great Guru Types, > > What the hell should I be doing now? > > Checking `lkm'... You have48 process hidden for readdir command > You have48 process hidden for ps command > Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed > > Regards > Trevor Rhodes I'd probably start by reading this thread: http://www.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/securityfocus/focus-linux/2003-02/0034.html It's specific to that Trojan. To answer the next obvious question from the lurkers (this is the only freebie you get! ) "What's a rootkit" read this: http://www.linuxsecurity.com/docs/Hack-FAQ/unix/rootkit.shtml I was rooted a couple weeks back, but since I was preparing to do a fresh install (the day it was first logged) it wasn't a big deal. I just formatted the drive and started over. The best part was the duplicate drive (USB) was clean so I didn't lose anything. Good luck, you may need it. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 13:03:55 up 3:11, 1 user, load average: 0.27, 0.34, 0.25 Gomme's Laws: (1) A backscratcher will always find new itches. (2) Time accelerates. (3) The weather at home improves as soon as you go away. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBD+QeZqvqlrLPr5YRAmV6AJ0aIM4Szq89y4gEt9A/CQssg/iQawCfRn0r 4NfqmPVuhkMpILHNR+ELNMI= =xw+o -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sceduling Automatic Reboots
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On August 2, 2004 20:29:08, JoeHill wrote: > On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 20:38:04 +1000 > > Mark Rogers disseminated the following: > > One last item (for the moment) that I need to do is setup my system > > (which is always on) to reboot once a day. Im doing this to ensure there > > are no problems > > What problems could possibly arise from *not* rebooting?! This ain't no > Winsux where some stupid memory leak is going to freeze your system. I've > got all kinds of crap running at all times and I leave it running while I'm > away, the worst problem being 700 e-mails waiting from the yahoos on this > list ;-) > > AFAIK, rebooting is almost completely unnecessary with Linux unless you > change your kernel or somethin'. I agree with that opinion. I was unable to touch my system for as much as 3 weeks during the run up to the previous Mandrake release plus an undefined number of days after that. Illness. Between the Mandrake lists and others I'm subscribed to, there were over 40,000 unread messages when I got back. Everything that I'd left running was still running and nothing untoward happened. The swap file was still unused. When cooker is going through a test release cycle (Alpha, Beta, Release Candidates) I reboot a lot more than I would like, or would normally. Quite often just so that I can test the installer. Other than that... As for the reboot to run a new kernel, that may change in the near future too. There's a project (can't recall the name off hand, sorry) underway to make starting a new kerenl without a reboot possible. As soon as I recall what the project is called I'll post it. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 20:58:25 up 5:05, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.70, 1.21 I've never been drunk, but often I've been overserved. -- George Gobel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBDwJQZqvqlrLPr5YRAqTVAJ40KGYLup4TKMIcnMo/Z08tB9B75gCeJKat ELOgwsVTX0PDMSnZI9ky1Dc= =RZcT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Torrent
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 31, 2004 11:35:11, JRH wrote: > Hi All, > > My CD1 of my 9.2 install set is buggered. > > Does anyone know where I can lay my hands on a .torrent file for LM9.2 CD1, > pref ISO file? > > Many thanks, > > JRH To the best of my knowledge the only torrents for Mandrake 9.2 are those that pull down the entire release. All three ISOs. I suppose bit torrent has it's advantages, in my opinion primarily for downloading and sharing new releases. But in your case, since you only need 1 of the disks and possibly the md5sum file, why don't you just download the disk you need? 700 MB (roughly) versus 2 GB (roughly) for the entire release? Would that not save on your bandwidth use? I think you could probably find a mirror for this yourself, but since you're in the U.K. you will probably get fast transfer rates from a sever in Paris? ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/official/iso/9.2/i586/Mandrake92-cd1-inst.i586.iso Good luck; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 11:50:36 up 3 days, 11:06, 2 users, load average: 0.36, 0.31, 0.34 Practice is the best of all instructors. -- Publilius -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBDoKLZqvqlrLPr5YRAhzlAJsEZm4m+Xd/HGcv/C/LekbBSNURXQCfbYj1 tPsK0yOVMC9SLzczoBpU9cE= =F2x8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Asus A7V8X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 30, 2004 22:55:10, Lee Wiggers wrote: > Can't find the on board 10/100 ethernet driver. > > Used the same mb on 9.2 so I know it's here someplace. > > Anyone save me from the trek through the multitude? > > Lee I cheat. Somebody else already did all the work: http://sluglug.ucsc.edu/~isolis/knowledge/linux-a7v8x/ C. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 02:58:24 up 1 day, 2:13, 1 user, load average: 0.37, 0.20, 0.17 PUNK ROCK!! DISCO DUCK!! BIRTH CONTROL!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBC19PZqvqlrLPr5YRAmhnAJ4+X+fMCFY8dm3D5vYsYskVAV9HtACfaIqw CSmCRgkFAdsyAMlB1UaN6eE= =i4o+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Package list help.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 30, 2004 16:24:04, Lanman wrote: > > Hoyt; Thanks for the suggestion, but '/var/cache/urpmi/rpms' is where > rpms are temporarily stored until urpmi is ready to install all rpms > that have been selected by the user. Once all the rpms required are > download to this folder, urpmi then installs from that location. > > What I'm actually looking for is a detailed list of the rpms which would > be currently installed on a system, not every package or rpms that was > ever installed on a system. > > Charlie suggested that I try /var/log/rpmpkgs , but that doesn't seem to > be accurate since I see rpms in that list that were recently removed > from the system. > > I'm hoping that I can build a list of the exact rpms which are currently > installed and use it as a guide for creating an archive of those exact > rpms. Once those rpms are archived, I can then burn a CD or DVD of those > rpms and take them to friends and clients and do a very fast update to > any of them, assuming that they're already running Mandrake 10.0. > > "urpmi *rpm" would do the trick once the CD or DVD had been mounted, and > I could work on another system while that was going on. Since I have > rpms from Charles, PLF, Contribs, etc., I'd like to have the current > ones rapidly available for install on new systems as well. > > Isn't there supposed to be an rpms database on my system? How does urpmi > keep track of what's installed? Hmmm, back to the drawing board! > > Lanman That file holds the changes made to the rpm database by updating, adding, and removing packages. I thought that's what you were after, sorry. The only other file I can think of that might hold relevant data would be the urpmi.log, but once again I think that one holds information all the way back to first install. In the /root directory there's a drakx sub directory that holds an image file used for replaying the install. Is that the one you mean? I'll shut up now. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 17:03:36 up 16:19, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.10, 0.14 Force it!!! If it breaks, well, it wasn't working anyway... No, don't force it, get a bigger hammer. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBCtX6ZqvqlrLPr5YRAoP6AKCR+uQAP5BFoCtbPMe7aodAqK1ltACeNSqQ 8oR2Qw1a9WhhgVmRuD1qeDQ= =IEnn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Package list help.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 30, 2004 15:57:03, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > On Friday 30 July 2004 14:30, Charlie Mahan wrote: > > On July 30, 2004 12:44:12, Lanman wrote: > > > To: Our Gang; > > > > > > Is there a command that will provide me with a detailed package > > > list of all installed rpms? Since doing the install on my system, > > > I've added, updated and removed quite a few of them, and I'd like > > > to create a repository of the packages that are currently > > > installed. > > > > > > That way, I can re-install them from a local source if I have to > > > recover from a cooker install of 10.1. I know that I have a package > > > list from my original install, but I'm looking for an updated list. > > > > > > Is it possible to extract the list from the RPM database? ideas? > > > suggestions? > > > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > Lanman > > > > /var/log/rpmpkgs should show you what you want. > > > > It's plain text so it may just be easier than all the grepping and > > diffing. > > > > Charlie > > Perhaps you mean '/var/cache/urpmi/rpms'? Or perhaps not Hoyt. That's where the packages go before they're installed but unless you use a no-clean or keep flag that directory gets emptied after all transactions are finished. The file that I posted about is where everything that has been installed is listed. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 17:01:08 up 16:16, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.17, 0.17 Sweater, n.: A garment worn by a child when its mother feels chilly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBCtOyZqvqlrLPr5YRAveuAJ9AlHnTZJsKSa9/N5sx53edfEFkYgCeLJhs dzWtCkf66HIF5+i6rHAPWko= =N+Vn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mplayer xvideo adapters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 30, 2004 14:15:02, deedee emrys wrote: > I'm trying to get mplayer to work on a 9.1 Mandrake system. After going > through the logs and correcting a bunch of problems, I am unable to receive > video output and get the following error message from mplayer: > > "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. > vo: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local > display)" Not with that "graphics adapter" you won't! Reduce the resolution and the depth if you actually want anything usable. > I ran 'xvinfo' as suggested in the logs and got the following: > > X-Video Extension version 2.2 > screen #0 > no adaptors present > > The video card is SiS650/651/740 GUI 2D/3D Accelerator. Mandrake > indicates the kernel module is "unknown" and media class is > display_vga. What kernel? Have you upgraded? I'd at least install the multi-media kernel that was available in contribs, but there should have been at least one update kernel available as well. I also vaguely recall from customer's "budget boxes" with that chipset that the SiS chipset wasn't fully supported until at least 9.2 or 10.0. I could be wrong though since I have a list of customer systems and routinely back them up and do a frsh install of the latest release of Mandrake. > "mplayer -vo help" produced a list of 22 available drivers, including > xv, x11, ggi, and so forth. > > The other remaining error concerns fonts: > > font: can't open file: $HOME/.mplayer/font/font.desc > font: can't open file: /usr/share/mplayer/font/font.desc > > My system doesn't have the file "/font/font.desc" -- I did a search and > it doesn't appear to exist. There's a newer mplayer for 9.1 from PLF. See below. > I installed mplayer from a Mandrake 9.1 binary, > mplayer-0.90-0.rc4.5.91mdk.i586.rpm. That's the correct package for 9.1 "Official." It's from the updates directory. But there's a newer one from PLF. > Any ideas on how I can get video output from mplayer? > > Thanks, > deedee Try adding a plf source so you can install all of the "questionable" audio and video codecs. In a terminal as super user paste this: urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/mandrake/10.0 with hdlist.cz and strike the Enter key. Then do urpmi mplayer [Enter] Or even: urpmi --auto-select [Enter] to do it all at once but be careful with that one! There are no guarantess and I don't know what other sources you have defined for packages. Let the list know if any of it helps? Thanks. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 14:43:43 up 13:59, 2 users, load average: 0.37, 0.51, 0.42 Little girls, like butterflies, need no excuse. -- Lazarus Long -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBCrYxZqvqlrLPr5YRAta/AJwKCtCwln9SMqAZ/kvC6cayzLYahgCgtX0H kkMByxj+2jjKzBTlKO98Jvk= =7Jd2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Switching from SuSE to Mandrake.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 30, 2004 13:13:01, Larry Johnson KISE wrote: > Hi all Howdy and Welcome Home! Now please drop the "Reply To:" mail client setting and we'll be fine. Or don't post with Outhouse errr sorry! Outlook. You may find the "Community Encyclopedia" useful when searching for Mandrake specific answers: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Enjoy! Charlie P.S.: If you think 10.0 is good wait 'til you see what they're doing to 10.1. C. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 13:36:03 up 12:51, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.07, 0.08 A right is not what someone gives you; it's what no one can take from you. - -- Ramsey Clark -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBCqWSZqvqlrLPr5YRAlewAJ4kICnwoQWjpbU99JHzvkbtG9xSmgCeOf79 TftJMRQ1PUG5uZoerLxWJQE= =Wb5T -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Package list help.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 30, 2004 12:44:12, Lanman wrote: > To: Our Gang; > > Is there a command that will provide me with a detailed package list of > all installed rpms? Since doing the install on my system, I've added, > updated and removed quite a few of them, and I'd like to create a > repository of the packages that are currently installed. > > That way, I can re-install them from a local source if I have to recover > from a cooker install of 10.1. I know that I have a package list from my > original install, but I'm looking for an updated list. > > Is it possible to extract the list from the RPM database? ideas? > suggestions? > > > TIA > > Lanman /var/log/rpmpkgs should show you what you want. It's plain text so it may just be easier than all the grepping and diffing. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 13:29:01 up 12:44, 1 user, load average: 0.13, 0.13, 0.13 Progress might have been all right once, but it's gone on too long. -- Ogden Nash -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBCqHOZqvqlrLPr5YRAu3pAJ97BpA703nNZT0R4zF8Gac4Mjg0NACdFbcO k5/2DGUhN9srZagSyRYYWR8= =Wa8j -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little guidence
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 30, 2004 01:25:01, KLG wrote: > Hello Shawn, > I have been using MDK 10 for a month or so now. So far I have been unable > to find documentation on MDK 10. Closest we can find is documentaion of > 9.2 which is found at: > http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fdoc.php3 > I think most of these manuals can be used with MDK 10 also. Because core > concept and command line utilities are same. I am also learning Linux with > the help of these fine people List. They have been source or great > knowledge and encouragement. If you find any docs about MDK 10, please do > mention in list. > Regards > Kanwar Lal > If you can't find the documentation you either haven't been looking very hard or you looked in the wrong places. The Mandrake Documentation comes on the install disks. For 10.0 there was an update. Fetch that here: ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/mandrake-doc-common-10.0-5.1.100mdk.noarch.rpm You'll also need to fetch the language specific package for the language you use the distribution in. You should be able to find that opening a terminal, typing su then strike the Enter key to become super user and providing the root password when prompted, then type mandrake-doc and strike the Enter key. Have fun! KLG, please lose the "Reply To:" in your mail client for list posts? Thanks. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 09:13:22 up 8:28, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.13, 0.16 A 'full' life in my experience is usually full only of other people's demands. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBCmdAZqvqlrLPr5YRAryFAKCvRduZ1G7Ty1uhwAMxpP3uP7qKJACgjVKl bFNkU3UtJZMOMQfBNZpjqAo= =zv2O -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How does one print man pages.
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:56 am, Hoyt Bailey sent these thoughts: > There has to be a better way to print man pages than to use copy/paste. > Please give me a clue? man | col | lpr -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ The Brahman Dona saw the Buddha sitting under a tree and was impressed by his peaceful air of alertness and his tranquil demeanour. He asked the Buddha: "Are you a god?" "No, Brahman, I am not a god." "Then an angel?" "No, indeed, Brahman." "A spirit then?" "No, I am not a spirit." "Then what are you?" "I am awake." __Anguttara Nikaya *** This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 10.0, KMail v1.6.1 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little guidence
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 29, 2004 11:43:11, Shawn Miller wrote: > Good afternoon all > > I am new to the Linux Community and have recently been seeking out some > good resources (books, sites) which will give me a clearer idea of the > functionality of Mandrake Linux 10.0. > > If anyone would happen to know any good sites which contain > documentation regarding line based commands of write ups of the GUI > components of Mandrake 10.0 i would be most appreciative. > > Thank you in advance, > Shawn Miller (newbie) Welcome Shawn. I hope you like it here, and in the "Mandrake World." For the basics, I would recommend starting at: http://safari.oreilly.com/ especially this book. Directory of Linux commands: http://www.onlamp.com/linux/cmd/ For more Mandrake specific stuff I strongly recommend the community encyclopedia, also known as a "TWiki." http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org While I'm making recommendations, install rute from the disks. You'll want to read that one through multiple times so pack a lunch. You could read rute without installing, it's available on the 'Net in any number of places. Just Google rute. Again, welcome. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 12:40:21 up 22:12, 1 user, load average: 0.44, 0.34, 0.25 * o-o always like debmake because he knew exactly what it would do... o-o: you would ;-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBCUjJZqvqlrLPr5YRAmniAJ9B8vG/fHSwj1PVWFMHHO0Wgn5HkQCeM6HG +Z+wPJE1nOIlFplAQ2Yk0/k= =MuOu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 29, 2004 09:33:09, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > I've seen numion recommended on other lists. Here's why I > don't use it. In a test there just now it ended with 23,961 kbps > for my 1,500 kbps connection. Which is nearly 16 times faster > than my DSL is theoretically capable of. An impossibility! Good > for braggin rights tho ;) I agree completely. There are much better tests available. That one has the advantage of being extremely graphical. Accurate? Well not so much. > It is correct, an I apologize for not mentioning that > dslreports requires a java enabled browser. At least it gives > realistic results tho ;) > > Your cable results are exceptional. Cable users around here > (RoadRunner, $39/mo.) report 600 to 900kbps. Or about 1/2 to > 2/3's the speed I get with DSL. They also report that's it's > slower at night or on weekends. DSL remains constant no matter > how many users are on line. I do believe you are correct Tom, in all respects. I'm uncertain why the situation is different here than every other city I've heard about but it is. Exceptional usability and decent customer service is why I haven't bothered to switch from my cable provider to anything else. Here in Edmonton the opposite conditions in re. the speed, reliability, and consistency of DSL vs cable obtains. A lot of my friends have switched from the phone company (DSL) to cable. This would be one example of why: 2004-07-29 12:01:40 EST: 2449 / 455 Your download speed : 2508636 bps, or 2449 kbps. A 306.2 KB/sec transfer rate. Your upload speed : 466083 bps, or 455 kbps. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 10:02:26 up 19:34, 2 users, load average: 0.42, 0.31, 0.27 has /usr/bin/emacs been put into /etc/shells yet? :P -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBCSImZqvqlrLPr5YRAvYiAJ4obElSCc/gXVdFsHmPVT/We4B/HQCfZ5wd lI4hHQwtytkt2+sa3y6TWP0= =9jWi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] LAN problems ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 28, 2004 23:02:11, J Latham wrote: > Hi All ... > > This past weekend I "built" my first computer ... A nervewracking > experience for a newbie but I'm pleased to say nearly everything went > smoothly (and was easier than expected - esp with Mandrake 10.0 - Took a > few attempts to get WinXP loaded). The only problem now is that I can't > get the onboard network card to work with Mandrake 10.0 ... Here are some > specs: > > Mobo: MSI K8N Neo Platinum > Chipset: nVIDIA nForce3 250Gb > CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ > LAN controller: same as chipset note (nVIDIA nForce3 250Gb controller) > > When I run the Network config tool in MCC it fails to recognize the onboard > LAN at all and instead asks me to make a "manual choice." But none of the > choices I tried seem to work. (I tried "nvnet" for example but it just > brought me back to the manual choice prompt - as did the 2 or 3 other > listings I tried.) > > I tried installing a PCI Linksys Etherfast card, too, and the config tool > found the card and went through the setup process without errors but I > still haven't got a working network connection ... I've done this the easy way for so long that it's hard to remember the pain I once had with Linksys cards. Set harddrake to run at boot, plug in the card and you'll likely find you'll have a connection next time you boot to Mandrake. Alternatively, plug in the card and insert install disk one and "Upgrade" the install. At the summary screen be certain you configure anything that hasn't already been done by the installer. As I said, the easy way. There's a link below if you'd like to take a swing at things another way. > Finally, I use a Linksys cable/DSL router to connect to my ADSL connection > ... The router is configured properly as I'm using it to connect now thru > WinXP, and it also works with another box I have running Mandrake ... > > I'm not sure what other info is needed to troubleshoot this so please let > me know what else I need to provide ... > > Any and all help is appreciated ... > > Thanks in advance, > Adam The linked article might help. Since you have Internet access through Windows you can download any drivers from NVidia that you may require. http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nforce/1.0-0256/ReleaseNotes_Linux_nForce_1.0-0256.html That article is an old one and the driver versions aren't current but the information is still valid. Good luck; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 23:51:10 up 9:23, 1 user, load average: 0.16, 0.12, 0.12 "Life sucks, but it's better than the alternative." - -- Peter da Silva -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBCJKTZqvqlrLPr5YRAu3LAKCjEk0b21VFdnqZpbHzpki7tffTcQCeLqkN q56J3yqWsAR8ieJBD7o2ARE= =5v/V -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Current scanners
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:05 am, Lanman sent these thoughts: > Dear List; I'm looking to buy a new flatbed scanner which will work > seamlessly with Mandrake 9.2 and 10.0. If anyone on the list has > recently purchased a new scanner and had an easy time setting it up, > could you please let me know? I'm also hoping that this scanner can be > shared by the host PC to 2 or 3 other PC's on the network, but this > isn't critical. > > Thanks In Advance,.. > > Lanman Canon N1240U Works a treat but viewed as a Plustec by XSANE -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ A man's real possession is his memory.In nothing else is he rich, in nothing else is he poor. _Alexander Smith *** This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 10.0, KMail v1.6.1 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 28, 2004 14:02:02, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > The part y'all leave out is speed, so price quotes are > sort'a useless. 256k (down)/56k (up) aDSL is available here for > $21/month. 1.5Mb/256k aDSL is $49. 8Mb DSL (not asynchronous, > dedicated line, no phone) is near $180/mo, but only available to > businesses. Several other options. Only with accounts more than > $49/mo. is the equipment free (ie, modem and NIC). > > To check your actual speed > http://www.dslreports.com/stest You may have wanted to mention to anyone that hasn't managed to get java working yet (not really hard) that this test requires java applets. > My 1.5Mb (1500kbps) DSL gets about 1278 kbps down, 214 kbps up > on a good day. I get about twice those values on average. Shaw "High Speed XTreme" cable. Around $31.00/month Canadian. Think x.7523 to convert to U.S currency at today's close, or $23.32 U.S. converted. For those that don't have, haven't been able to get java working, or don't want to; try the "speed test" at numion. It tests your connection to various web sites nationally or internationally. The URL is: http://www.numion.com/ You can also test your website if you like. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 19:50:18 up 5:22, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.14, 0.09 The light at the end of the tunnel may be an oncoming dragon. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBCFn5ZqvqlrLPr5YRAtJ6AJ9Iu/yw8Q2yNtaUfl2LSCJ+AE7cMwCfctFJ f7gZ1Zm+WDQDKhXYbI6IDqI= =ALoM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] rpm build/checkinstall errors (solved)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 25, 2004 20:24:08, Angus Auld wrote: > Thanks for the feedback Charlie. I have managed to get apollon > working on my system. I told you could do it! Good on ya Angus. > The sticker for me was the Gnutella plugin. I compiled it w/o > trouble, but after I had installed it and set up giFT/apollon to > use it, giFTd would not start when I opened apollon. I even > tried to start giFTd manually in a terminal.no go. I got errors > having to do with the Gnutella plugin. I disabled Gnutella, voila! > OpenFT and FastTrack work fine. That was the last thing I had a chance to do this afternoon before being called away to doctor a sick Windows box. Since I just got home and don't feel much like messing with a major debug (cooker, remember?) I'll tackle mine tomorrow. I think I'll be doing a back-up and fresh install of cooker tomorrow. For a new box there's a _lot_ of detritus hanging around from previous versions. > What's going on with Gnutella? Have you been able to get it to > work for you? Gnutella still works on the old system, or did last time I paid attention, but that's running a fully updated PCLinuxOS installed to hard disk. Tex put all kinds of funny gizmo's in that distribution but it's still Mandrake 9.2 with an attitude. > I'm on a dialup here Charlie. :-( > My provider is Aliant. It was in the plans for us to have a DSL > system called Vibe, which should have been available this > spring/summer. Unfortunately Aliant is experiencing a workers > strike that has been dragging on for months now. Hopefully > the DSL will be soon to come. That's why I asked. I recalled (OK I cheat, I make notes for *everything* 'cause if I didn't write it down it didn't happen) that you may be switching to ADSL. Too bad it's held up. I hope they settle soon so they don't hold you up too long. > I have my security level at the default setting. You don't wanna know what "Custom" security settings I'm running at the moment. If I think about it I'll go nuts myself. > Best regards. > > --Angus > I bid you Peace. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 21:43:02 up 9:24, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.08, 0.07 The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBBIBBZqvqlrLPr5YRAm2AAJ9714AX4sRRKf/qYSa8yyM8eK/6pwCfaIfW P3ZRyBdXpavMDCtk2DtVOyE= =E/w1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Spammassassin: spamd consuming 90%+cpu time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 25, 2004 15:19:03, Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Sunday 25 July 2004 6:29 am, Stephen Kühn wrote: > > As per the subject, spamd is now consuming at least 90% of total cpu > > time; there is only ONE instance of it running as well; I've modified > > the /etc/init.d/spamassassin service startup so that it is forced to > > only have one instance of it; why, all of a sudden, is it eating my cpu > > alive? The only thing I've recently changed is to add more rulesets for > > spamassassin...and I've very carefully followed the directions on the > > spamassassin faq for performance/memory problems; this being the 2.6.3-7 > > kernel, is there something else I'm doing wrong or have I missed > > something? I used to HAVE performance - now it is slowly coming to a > > crawl... > > Try using spamc as spamd is just a wrapper for spamc I understand. > > I filter using SA from within Kmail, and when I used spamd, I had my Kmail > come to a halt while messages were being filtered, Now with spamc, there is > only a short pause, and everything is running. I gave up on SA completely since it would slow my old system so much it was nearly unusable. Bogofilter is nicely integrated into Kontact now, takes very little teaching (I knew there was a reason I hadn't cleared that spam directory) and is almost invisible in operation. I can heartily recommend it. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 15:32:59 up 3:13, 2 users, load average: 1.03, 0.36, 0.23 If at first you don't succeed, you are running about average. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBBCfwZqvqlrLPr5YRAo2iAJ9q00nwKNbSCnvRS8GMgi8XIUjzAwCfVsd2 BhOZw0rUkmX6Nufqwvix0yI= =tpCZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] rpm build/checkinstall errors (solved)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 25, 2004 11:10:11, Angus Auld wrote: > It appears that there is a problem with the checkinstall > package I was using. I installed the latest beta version, > "checkinstall-1.6.0-0.beta3.2mdk.i586", and then the > rebuilding went fine. :-) > > Now if I can only get apollon to work. :-| > Mandrake 10.0 is proving to be a challenge for > me thus far. It isn't nearly as stable as 9.2 was on > my Dell. A couple of questions Angus, since you prompted me to try to get Apollon working here when it wouldn't since the new machine was set up. What security level are you running? I ask because a customer system that I assembled yesterday running level "Standard" connects and shares files through Apollon. Your connection again? I'm on "Shaw High Speed Xtreme" and since I'm setting the application up and trying to make it work anything I suggest will have to be adapted to that difference, plus any relevant differences between Mandrake 10.0 and cooker. We can do this, it just may take a bit. > It also seems like things aren't as easy to find, and > to configure. I found 9.2 was a real rock solid version > for me on my hardware. I lost my previous installation due > to a failed harddrive, and after installing a new Maxtor 40GB, > I thought it would be good to go with the latest and > greatest version of Mandrake. It has been somewhat > of a letdown so far. > > Regards. > > --Angus > I'm not certain what the hold up is for you Angus. I've installed 10.0 on 6 machines this past week, of that number 3 were for families that have rug rats that want to share their music with their friends. In all three cases Apollon initialized and ran without trouble. On your system and on mine there are difficulties. I know what may be the trouble with mine (it's cooked) but yours should have been simple. Since it seems as though you managed to get it installed, have you gone into the ~/.giFT directory and clicked on giftd.conf? Or started apollon from a terminal with the -v (verbose) flag? If you haven't done either take a look and post the results. I have Apollon starting at the moment but I keep getting time outs on the nodes during connection. I may have the security wound a little tight though so I'll have to check and open the default port (1213?) for it. When I find something else I'll post it. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 12:28:51 up 9 min, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.21, 0.14 There are many intelligent species in the universe, and they all own cats. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBA/9tZqvqlrLPr5YRAiJlAJ0WG/7bKw+MXrOgH32qtj6tSLaMDgCgtRFX /UewAc4CNOGgetyPNycuxAw= =Mhm1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake10 Community
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 25, 2004 11:04:11, Keith Powell wrote: > What is the situation regarding Mandrake10 Community, please? > > Is it still very similar as Official, or has it forked a lot with regard to > the package versions in it? > > I can't find anything about Community on the Mandrake site, can't find the > information on Google, and can't download it just to find out. I only have > a dial-up connection. > > Many thanks for any information. > > Cheers > > Keith I believe Community is 10.0 + updates. I could be wrong but probably not since the tree structure seems to be a moving target for the last 8 months. 10.1 is based on Alpha1+new packages. An install from the cooker snapshot (Alpha1 ISOs) would in all likelihood require an immediate ftp "upgrade" to the 10.1 tree. It would still be quicker (maybe) than a full FTP install of 10.1 though. There should be another Alpha, or possibly a Beta snapshot soon anyway. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 12:03:43 up 2 days, 21:28, 2 users, load average: 0.12, 0.20, 0.26 Unfair animal names: - -- tsetse fly -- bullhead - -- booby -- duck-billed platypus - -- sapsucker -- Clarence -- Gary Larson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBA/dYZqvqlrLPr5YRAuhpAKCAeEYR/L2loxwmYgugF3NRr3yt2QCfUITG Mt8YI5+KEq//TXxIS2KdsGU= =Ixyo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 10 download - no torrents?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 22, 2004 09:28:09, PM wrote: > Downloaded & used MDK 10 for a while, but CD1 I burnt is now faulty > (don't ask). OK, I won't. > Went to the club site at the weeke-end to re-download the iso using > bittorrent, left it running for 24 hours, with nothing happening. Just > tried again and a couple of hours later 0 download speed, 0% downloaded. There's nobody feeding the torrent. > However the 10.1 beta I can download at 22 kb/sec. > > Am I being forced to be a beta tester? No. You'll just have to try something else. See below. > pm There's probably just no torrent seed available because of lack of demand. Three methods: 1.)Using a browser, go to any mirror that holds a Mandrakelinux tree, navigate to the official/iso directory and click the disk you need. 2.)Do you still have an original ISO for any CD1? If you you still do have one available from _any_ version just put a copy where you want, rename it to reflect the version you need then run the rsync command below after editing it to reflect the location of the iso on your system. Use the torrent directory copy, it won't save much but will be consistent. If you don't have one it will still work, but will save bandwidth if it just has to compare and replace. rsync -avrt --progress ftp.uninett.no::Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.0/i586/Mandrakelinux10.0-Official-Download-CD1.i586.iso /thedirectorywiththeiso/ Believe it or not that is technically all one line other than syntax breaks. If it's wrapped don't blame me. 3.) Using the client of your choice; ftp download only the disk image you need. The method in number 2 (rsync) only saves you bandwidth if there's a file to compare to at your end. I'd still use rsync though, but I prefer that and don't want to mess with an ftp client at the moment. The difference? Simple, you tried the torrent and that's all three disks and the md5sums. This just gets you the disk you want. If I thought it would help you I'd start a torrent for 10.0 Official but that doesn't seem as helpful as it sounds. I'd set the ISOs as part of my shared files on OpenFT (Apollon) if I had time to work out the kinks that cause it to refuse to connect at the moment. Ah, the joys of cooking! Regards; Charlie P.S.; Don't you wish you hadn't dumped the ISOs after you burned them? lol - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.1mdk 09:35:50 up 1 day, 16:39, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05 Got a dictionary? I want to know the meaning of life. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/+c1ZqvqlrLPr5YRAjkbAJ0XKJlS0emQMmzgC/iXplF6k09x3ACfeLij BxqZ6IbkJU6EuRd50/jikKM= =yX/5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1A install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 21, 2004 18:17:06, Dennis Myers wrote: > > It does seem funny that I get the print-utils error cause my md5sums all > check out. Can you have a flakey iso if the md5sums are correct? Sure you can Dennis; I did. I stopped using the alpha disks and started just plugging whatever system I'm testing into my hub, or use a USB drive, or just plug my mirror drive in temporarily. Depends when and where. It's easier that way anyway. Same like installing from the 'Net but a lot faster 'cause I don't have to be patient with the connection. It is an Alpha release after all. Once you're up and at least have a usable system please install the testzilla-clients so you can add your hardware configuration to the database at bugzilla. I don't always remember to do it with the systems I test, but every little bit will help in the long run. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.1mdk 18:36:59 up 1 day, 1:40, 2 users, load average: 0.04, 0.11, 0.17 Win98 is called Win98 because it is 98% slower than Linux. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/xCoZqvqlrLPr5YRAnTPAKClzpPSrJurWm6CmJ3Owcz9aEKv6ACgqwiT ko/apm/X7o32CCAasGnA710= =aUTF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1A install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 21, 2004 15:26:03, Dennis Myers wrote: > > Yes, I had the same kdecore4 errors and the printutils error but could not > get a xserver running. I used a Wisconsin site. I'm trying again with a > French ftp site. Bittorrent was way to slow, 1 to 3 kps. I will see how > the French mirror does. Depends on the mirror. The one I mentioned is fairly fast but doesn't allow rsync connections. Have a look at either (or both) of the links below to see how current cooker mirrors are: http://home.skycon.net/~junfan/cookermirrors.php http://www.acert.pt/~fribeiro/mirrorwatch/ It's strange that the torrent was so slow. I had it running in upload only mode for 2 days. Set for 25 kilo-bytes upload limit. Oh well... the next alpha or a beta will probably be along in a bit anyway. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.1mdk 15:34:17 up 22:37, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.35, 0.34 A friend of mine won't get a divorce, because he hates lawyers more than he hates his wife. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/uL4ZqvqlrLPr5YRAs9tAKCHkIT7mEZoOAHTMHRz9Rm/tNpCggCffFFC 8kJklE0Gc2pjLFaONZO4TRg= =CfG/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1A install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 21, 2004 13:07:01, Dennis Myers wrote: > Hi all, I d/l'd the 10.1 alpha last night and tried an install. No go, it > makes it all the way through to just before the summary screen and gives an > error of "printer-utils not found". Refuses to move on from there. Just in > case anyone is looking to try it. Might have been the mirror I used though, > so has anyone else had success? I installed it on the last four systems I've assembled as a test Dennis. I got various errors about kdecore4 (?) and a few more files, managed to get at least a bootable system then immediately ftp upgraded to the cooker tree. Check the signature line below generated by calling /etc/mandrake-release. You probably did pick a "bad mirror." Which one did you use? I've had rotten luck trying any U.S mirrors lately for rsync or for installs. I'm getting the best results for rsync from the Irish mirror and proxad for ftp installs. Btw, everything is working fine here, barring a few glitches that have already been reported. Good luck and have fun! Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.1mdk 13:38:41 up 20:42, 1 user, load average: 0.36, 0.29, 0.31 We come to bury DOS, not to praise it. -- Paul Vojta, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/sioZqvqlrLPr5YRAvnOAJ4vlXkRLt9U/ywslThFisecaCKvIwCgnNJF PFdahtynk5CiegFwKse267c= =qI9I -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Partition Magic 7 for Linux Native Partitions (bad partition table)
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:53 am, Roberto Ramsis sent these thoughts: > For the 1st time i use Partition Magic 7.0 (Win98) to make my Linux Native > partition ,I made it primary,after "Uncompressing the kernel" the PC just > hangs . The problem is i can't let the MDK9.2 setup wizard do it,cuz this > way ,both windows and partition magic can never see the partition table > again and give partition table error. Using fdisk from knoppix > hdb1 c win95 fat32 > hdb2 f win95 Ext'd LBA > hdb3 83 Linux > hdb4 82 Linux Swap > hdb5 b Win95 FAT32 > hdb6 b Win95 FAT32 > > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! It has been sometime that I used Partition Magic 7, but certainly it gives table errors when Diskdrake formats them, but if you want you can have it correct them and diskdrake will either correct them again, or do nothing and Mandrake will boot just the same. I used partition magic 7.0 to format all the partitions on the drive, the win 98, win 2000, in my case, at the front of the drive, then all the linux partition's after that as ext2 which is the only way that it can format linux natives. Then install Linux O/S and have it format the partitions you're using for those as you create and give the mount points. Then as above:- either never look at them again with partition magic or allow it to fix the errors it sees and all will be well. Red Hats diskdruid complains of Mandrake's diskdrake partitioning incorrectly as well as partition magic. But usually states that it can work within those parameters. So I really don't know how the errors affect anything, other than esoterically or pedantically? Everything still runs, but it is best to have Windows at the front of the drive in the first partition. Charlie. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ A man's real possession is his memory.In nothing else is he rich, in nothing else is he poor. _Alexander Smith *** This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 10.0, KMail v1.6.1 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] LG HL-DT-ST GCE-8525B
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 19 July 2004 05:05 am, Dale Kosan wrote: > One person mentioned having trouble with this drive, any one else? I > was thinking of purchasing one but do not want junk. Thanks in advance. > > Dale Kosan That was me and that problem drive was 1 out of 30 or 40 in the past few months. You should get good service from it Dale, as long as the vagaries of mass production don't bite you as well. I still use them when assembling customer boxen such as this one I'm on now and I still have one in my own system. However; Murphy was a bloody _optomist!_ Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-15mdk 05:36:12 up 9:14, 0 users, load average: 0.25, 0.34, 0.33 It's never too late to have a happy childhood. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA+7LrZqvqlrLPr5YRAkX4AJ4xbFsKDdE4LHQI5zVH8LOsb5wMYwCeJWKf NKsyUN5+TuUnh4iFHSuea68= =Iwt3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] dual layer DVD writing.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 19 July 2004 12:30 am, franki wrote: > Hi guys, Howdy. > I was wondering if anyone has had any experiance with dual layer DVD > writers on Linux? The drives (a couple so far) or the (non-existent at present) disks? > They are just starting to hit retail shelves now, and handle over 8gig > of space.. > > Very cool for a backup system me thinks. Until they've been around for a couple of years I'll keep using a USB drive. At least the technology there is sorta kinda in a way stable and mature. > I have some clients that would benefit greatly from this, and I'd like > to write a script that backs up their shared folders to a dual layer DVD > 3 times a week. but so far I've not been able to find out if any version > of cdrecord or anything else is capable of running a dual layer burner. > > Anyone have any ideas? > > regards > > Franki I think it's going to be a "wait for wide spread availability of media" then instant support as usual Franki. I vaguely recall reading about a project recently so I don't think it will be a long wait. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-15mdk 03:50:07 up 7:28, 0 users, load average: 0.21, 0.18, 0.18 I'm wet! I'm wild! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA+5pzZqvqlrLPr5YRAndKAJ9XSQHEksnj7f/gZNtJsuXDxWtk+QCgjzXb W2LmLrxr2RdA5/U/ygx17ZY= =uefe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom4 woes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 18 July 2004 12:23 pm, Angus Auld wrote: > > Sorry to butt in. Whatever apps are available from CD4, plus a lot more. > > are still available from the mirror sites and other locations. The > > exception is Club packages, you're on your own for those. > > > > Cancel CD4 during the installation, after the installation remove it from > > the list of package sources and add a "main" and a "contrib" source from > > one of the mirrors. urpmi will pull from whichever source it finds the > > package you want from first so that shouldn't hamper regular stuff > > available from the disks. > > > > The only packages I have had trouble installing during fresh installs > > recently were ones the CD drive couldn't read. Written at a conservative > > 18x on an A-Open 52x24x52, read for install in a new LG HL-DT-ST > > GCE-8525B. > > > > The new LG was trash. It happens. > > Hey Charlie, thanks for the info. I just noted what you say > to be the case indeed. I was trying to install eslrahc.com's > k3b package and rpmdrake told me it couldn't unless I inserted > cdrom4. It needed libid3_3.8_3-3.8.3-6mdk, which it wanted > cdrom4 to access. I searched a main source mirror, and guess > what?..there was the libid3 I needed. Go figure. Amazing how that works isn't it? It's easy to add Charles site, just click the link in his signature, pick your version and follow his easy urpmi add instructions. His link is: http://www.eslrahc.com/ > Do the main mirrors have all of the packages from all 4 cd's? > Regardstake care. Since Mandrake Linux is intended to be *totally* GPL compliant yes. The only exceptions are driver and evaluation packages on the power pack Cd's. Those are generally binary only. There are actually more toys available from the main and contrib sources than the "4" disk download editions or the power packs anyway. I have a copy of the 10.0 Official tree on one hard drive. Including updates but excluding the ISOs it's 6.7 GB total. I just used it with the boot.iso from the images directory to install the system I'm writing this on. Slicker than greased owl $h!t. Fast too. Think about _that_ next time you wonder which has more packages. (-: Just kidding Angus. Peace; Charlie > PS. I recently purchased a LG HL-DT-ST GCE-8525B. :-|| > Mine seems to be working OK for my purposes though. > Since the price is right for those drives I'll keep using them. I just got one bad one out of roughly the last 30 to 40 that I've used. Mass production and Murphy's law in operation. Still that's the first bad one I've had since they were first available locally. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-15mdk 12:36:53 up 10:22, 0 users, load average: 3.62, 3.20, 3.03 Information Center, n.: A room staffed by professional computer people whose job it is to tell you why you cannot have the information you require. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA+sZnZqvqlrLPr5YRAjyVAJ92uJOBbvIZRGfrxlzCAFz2olwU/QCgl6mN IwqMcSScb88DME6oinnsmcA= =Klbd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom4 woes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 18 July 2004 08:25 am, Todd Slater wrote: > Josenildo, are you talking about installing Mandrake in general or Balsa > in particular? I installed 10.0 without a hitch, but there were many > apps i wanted to install that were on cd 4, so urpmi didn't work. I did > eventually find what I was looking for online, it just wasn't as > convenient as urpmi. > > Todd Sorry to butt in. Whatever apps are available from CD4, plus a lot more. are still available from the mirror sites and other locations. The exception is Club packages, you're on your own for those. Cancel CD4 during the installation, after the installation remove it from the list of package sources and add a "main" and a "contrib" source from one of the mirrors. urpmi will pull from whichever source it finds the package you want from first so that shouldn't hamper regular stuff available from the disks. The only packages I have had trouble installing during fresh installs recently were ones the CD drive couldn't read. Written at a conservative 18x on an A-Open 52x24x52, read for install in a new LG HL-DT-ST GCE-8525B. The new LG was trash. It happens. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-15mdk 09:14:33 up 7:00, 0 users, load average: 2.00, 2.00, 2.00 If you don't care where you are, then you ain't lost. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA+psRZqvqlrLPr5YRAmu/AJ9TKqZxEa6cnQyj5ryViWqpIxnonwCfTSGl U0kLp66cp6y8ErMCZCh2TCw= =ITF/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] new monitor, starting X causes no signal
On Friday 16 July 2004 09:54 pm, Christopher J. Bottaro wrote: > btw, i'm the one who started that thread "switching from fedora core, > need advice". decided to give mandrake a try. i have to admit urpmi is > pretty nice...=) fonts look different than fedora, but thats just > something i'll get used to. 3 programs crashed within an hour of using > it, but ehh...what ya gunna do? > > anyways, on to my problem... > > i took my computer to work, plugged it into a monitor from work, > keyboard, mouse, network, etc. installed mandrake 10.0 (loved the > partitioner installer btw) without a hitch. i played around with it > some, everything was fine. > > so i take my computer home, plug it into my monitor, keyboard, mouse, > etc. start it up, everything is fine. then i try to start X and the > screen goes blank, the monitor loses signal and goes into standby mode. > > ok, the XF86Config file is still set for my work monitor. i'll just use > XFDrake to reconfigure it. well i did and chose my home monitor. still > doesn't work. > > any ideas? thanks! Punish yourself first. Put the first install disk in the drive, go through the steps except upgrade rather than install, you'll still get a summary screen and it'll take less time to accomplish than any other method would to explain. Seriously though; if you do actually do a "fake upgrade" you'll reset all the devices that are plaguing you, plus you'll learn which Mandrake tools to use to correct future woopsies. *All* the Mandrake tools. XFdrake was the correct tool, something doesn't seem right if that didn't work. Welcome, and good luck! Charlie -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-15mdk 22:45:40 up 2:43, 0 users, load average: 0.04, 0.17, 0.16 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Installing Mandrake 10 withou internet conection
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 12, 2004 03:57, Ary Kaplan Nakamura wrote: > I want to install Mandrake 10 in a computer that doesn´t have internet > conection > Can I download the upgrades and then upgrade Mandrake 10 from a CD? > Thanks > > Ary Kaplan Nakamura Two ways; copy the updates from the CD to the hard drive and add the directory as a local source, or add the CD as a source and just keep updating it. If the updates file gets so large that it won't fit on a single disk that could become a problem. You won't be using "Mandrake Update" in either case. If you use the rpmdrake graphical interface just keep it set to show "all files by update availability." Any new versions will be listed there. It's even easier from a terminal, urpmi -a -c -f && urpmi --auto-select Good luck; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.6.7-1.sds.16mdk 16:05:30 up 3:21, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.02 RAM wasn't built in a day. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA8xADZqvqlrLPr5YRArlVAKCT+/wh0lZcTVNNHrh25ustYkKjHwCgm78e xDDOCGF/YM/RaL/dzs+6Bm8= =ei7K -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] incorrect smp installation on laptop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 12, 2004 02:47, Bill W. wrote: > Hi, > I am the proud owner of a new Dell Inspiron 9100. 3.2GHz, 128 Mb ATI 9700 > video card. I installed WinXP first(NTFS), then LM10 Official. Apart from a > sound issue due to feedback - microphone to speakers- the installation went > very well. Except, the installation saw a multiprocessor so I have a SMP > installation. > Has anyone else come across this glitch? Is there an easier method to fix > this other than a total reinstall? Do I even need to bother with this? > > Thanks and regards, > Bill W,. If you want to run a uni-processor kernel you'll need to enable acpi=ht in the lilo append line I believe. I don't know why that wouldn't have been the default though. You can try it if you like, but... In your case; PIV 3.2 GHz processor = multi processor to the installer, because of the hyper threading capabilities.. Or that's probably the case anyway. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I meant: I don't think you need do anything Bill. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.6.7-1.sds.16mdk 15:40:11 up 2:55, 1 user, load average: 0.22, 0.08, 0.02 If Beethoven's Seventh Symphony is not by some means abridged, it will soon fall into disuse. -- Philip Hale, Boston music critic, 1837 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA8wZXZqvqlrLPr5YRAg3SAJ4/H8tVMdoBD1Q/kCoUmwcoR3cI3QCdHEr6 OcpY/g2CWGiaaFkR6uw4TzE= =ZXmr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Re: switching from fedora core, need some advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 12, 2004 11:48, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2004 12:40 pm, Christopher J. Bottaro wrote: > > ok, this is getting a bit off topic, but... > > > > how do i "make it bootable with the cdrom boot image"? i found the "raw > > tree for Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official" and i'm assuming i can download it, > > keeping the dir structure intact, then burn it to dvd with the "cdrom > > boot image"...? > > I believe that to make a CD or DVD bottable, you hae to specify a boot > image, which I believe should be that exact size of a floppy disk image, so > you can use one of the floppy images in the images directory to make the > DVD bootable. Alternatively, you could create the DVD archive, and then > use a boot floppy to get started. > > Another thought, if you have the bandwidth to copy the whole dang tree > down, you might want to consider an ftp install. Or if the OP has that much bandwidth, and enough space, what's wrong with doing an hard drive install using the boot.iso in the images directory? That image is about 8 MB. A CD-RW current for the version of Mandrake wanted is all that's needed. That and knowing where the tree is on the drive. It's the quickest and easiest method since you don't have to wait for network slowdowns or switch disks or put up with speed bumps from optical drives. That's the method I use for most customer's systems I assemble. I got sick of paying for blank CD-Rs. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.6.7-1.sds.16mdk 12:50:01 up 5 min, 1 user, load average: 0.05, 0.22, 0.12 The eagle may soar, but the weasel never gets sucked into a jet engine. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA8t8hZqvqlrLPr5YRAiyUAJ4hu69VIcymEdVD3/bv0wP518coygCeOHI7 fuXigaNUVEwGxkU13rfgNh8= =3Fz0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Ogle RPM not installing
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 08:43 pm, Craig Bowyer sent these thoughts: > Charlie wrote: > >On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 05:42 pm, Craig Bowyer sent these thoughts: > >>I've been trying to install Ogle for viewing DVD's. > >>However, whenever I've tried to install of the RPM PLF lists, I get the > >>following from Rpmdrake: > >> > >>"The following packages have bad signatures: > >> > >>libdvdcontrol9-0.9.2-1plf.i586.rpm: Invalid signature ((SHA1) DSA sha1 > >>md5 gpg GPG#caba22ae NOT OK) > >>libmsgevents6-0.9.2-1plf.i586.rpm: Invalid signature ((SHA1) DSA sha1 > >>md5 gpg GPG#caba22ae NOT OK) > >>ogle-0.9.2-1plf.i586.rpm: Invalid signature ((SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 gpg > >>GPG#caba22ae NOT OK) > >> > >>Do you want to continue installation?" > >> > >>I then say no. > >> > >>I've tried changing PLF lists, however, exactly the same message comes > >>up when trying to install from another one as well. Is there something I > >>need to remove/change in my standard install before this can install? > >> > >>I'm currently using Community 10.0. > >> > >>Regards, > >> > >>Craig > > > >Wrong answer, say 'yes' > > > >Works every time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > >Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > >____ > > Sorry if I'm sounding confused - I've only recently switched from > Windows where error messages mean your system is about to go down the > gurgler. > > If it works every time, why are these error messages appearing? > > Regards, > > Craig. Derek said it better than I could, because I didn't actually know why this happens. Sounds like you're right anyway. Charlie. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- To read well, that is, to read true books in a true spirit, is a noble exercise, and one that will task the reader more than any other exercise which the customs of the day esteem. It requires a training such as the athletes underwent, the steady intention almost of the whole life to this object. ...Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Ogle RPM not installing
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 05:42 pm, Craig Bowyer sent these thoughts: > I've been trying to install Ogle for viewing DVD's. > However, whenever I've tried to install of the RPM PLF lists, I get the > following from Rpmdrake: > > "The following packages have bad signatures: > > libdvdcontrol9-0.9.2-1plf.i586.rpm: Invalid signature ((SHA1) DSA sha1 > md5 gpg GPG#caba22ae NOT OK) > libmsgevents6-0.9.2-1plf.i586.rpm: Invalid signature ((SHA1) DSA sha1 > md5 gpg GPG#caba22ae NOT OK) > ogle-0.9.2-1plf.i586.rpm: Invalid signature ((SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 gpg > GPG#caba22ae NOT OK) > > Do you want to continue installation?" > > I then say no. > > I've tried changing PLF lists, however, exactly the same message comes > up when trying to install from another one as well. Is there something I > need to remove/change in my standard install before this can install? > > I'm currently using Community 10.0. > > Regards, > > Craig Wrong answer, say 'yes' Works every time. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- For what are the classics but the noblest thoughts of man? They are the only oracles which are not decayed, and there are such answers to the most modern inquiry in them as Delphi and Dodona never gave. We might as well omit to study Nature because she is old. ...Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:44 pm, John Richard Smith sent these thoughts: > Martin Foster wrote: > > However, I don't think that's what causing the problems. > > Have you had a look at my other suggestions yet? > > Can someone help me understand something. > > In KPPP under modem, there is a line termination field with 3 choices. > > CR, CR/LF, and something else I cannot just ths moment remember. > > Googling around I find this to be something to do with the way "line > termination" is handled between unix and Dos. I read the spiel on it and > it seems to be something to do with inserting the numbers > -13-10 in dos line termination, and simply -10- in unix code. Suffice > it to say I don't really understand it, but that is beside the point. > > I had my modem setting set for CR the unix code line termination > criteria, is there a possibility that this just might cause kppp to > return "No Carrier" on it's first ISP cutoff and redial ? > > What are the odds that having CR/LF set would cure my problem ? > > John Just CR works here John. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- At a given moment I open my eyes and exist. And before that, during all eternity, what was there? Nothing. .Ugo Betti ___ This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] xmms (further damage)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 10, 2004 12:11, Lee Wiggers wrote: > This is funny. I turned off "Start arts sound server" in the kde > config gui and now it works. > > So just 'cause things were all ok, I changed my hostname and setup a > static ip. Sure enough, I broke the internet connection and the lan > connection all in one swell foop. > > I recovered with a mix of gui and cli that would make an "expert" > cringe, but it worked. > > Sometimes I tickle me. > > Lee I often do such things after a 48>96 hour "day." I am not often "tickled" about the results though. Or about the time to fix my (frequent) brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] I keep the arts disable set to 0 or 1 second most times. It doesn't get in the way as much then. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.6.7-1.sds.16mdk 17:00:54 up 2:05, 1 user, load average: 0.44, 0.12, 0.08 Dibble's First Law of Sociology: Some do, some don't. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA8Hb2ZqvqlrLPr5YRAqykAJ98IA7Rr9vk5jgaZpzk1ziszn1WcwCgjA8v Qv7tn+5Vh6u+K1wpWNO1RaA= =gb9I -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] xmms
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 10, 2004 09:22, Lee Wiggers wrote: > On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:52:13 -0600 > > Charlie Mahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We at least seem to have made some progress. <-: > > > > Charlie > > - -- > > Sure, I'm pragmatic enough to settle for "It's working so what if I > don't know why". True enough. If it ain't broke... > > Thanks For what? You're welcome. > It didn't help that I never said I was on 9.2 on this box. I'd > upgrade to 10 but I'm not sure if the Apache2 issues were resolved > and this is my server for aeis.tv. Probably didn't matter that much did it? I'm not sure whether the Apache2 issues were resolved either. Since all I ever do with servers for anyone is to tell them to hire a network specialist after they're installed, I'm only vaguely aware of what issues you mean. But that would probably be obvious. > Anyway now it's not broke. Nothing left to fix except some dumb > login noise. Hardly an issue when logins are only once in a blue > moon. > > Lee You are correct, logins *should be* a once in a blue moon occurrence; but some people (me) use their own systems to format new customer hard drives, load version trees (freshly rsynced) so that ftp or CD installs are not required, set up a current "Windows Utilities" directory so that anyone that forces me to load that OS has a firewalled/current anti-virus enabled system before it ever connects to a network of any sort. With that in mind, and the hours involved, I _must_ have a log in sound to wake me up. Know what I mean? Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.6.7-1.sds.16mdk 13:47:33 up 23:20, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.11, 0.09 For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. -- Harrison -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA8EqYZqvqlrLPr5YRAh+KAJ9ndbG2g97cqXKDHxHSlcJLW/BIbACfVSpV iOlfAd/9TTEVrJT9O5/gIss= =pqmT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Port 113
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 10, 2004 09:08 am, David wrote: > Can somebody tell me how to stealth this port using Shorewall? If you like I'll send you a "standalone cable connected" shorewall/rules file that will stealth *everything.* Including icmp (echo) requests. It's over 10 kbytes so I'd rather it happen off list. Let me know, OK? Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.6.7-1.sds.16mdk 10:48:45 up 20:21, 1 user, load average: 0.34, 0.15, 0.13 Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around us in awareness. -- James Thurber -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA8B6LZqvqlrLPr5YRAi9gAKCk7vsDa70oRvAniWfR7VclRz5TlgCgnNJX HQ9fiNL4Ma/TYH313UhQz/c= =dK18 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com