Re: [newbie] Has our list-server got X-MAS hiccups ?
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 07:13, Kaj typed: Have you ever come across this before. As of a day or two ago, I can no longer post to the newbie list on Mandrake. My emails are constantly being returned as errors. I called my ISP and asked them to look into the matter. I can receive email from the list, so I am still subscribed to it. I am including the latest error message from my ISP if it'll help. I can also send and receive email from everyone else in my address book, but not 'to' the 'Newbie' list! I even tried using my wifes machine to post to the list, still nothing. -- Tue Dec 25 11:23:34 2001 61degF and cloudy Happy holidays Y'all I had this problem just last week...I could not post to newbie , although I could receive OK...and I could not resub as the MDK server refused to accept anything from me Other people in my address book received my messages OK it seemed but then I discovered that anyone on AOL was not getting them either. My problem turned out to beas I was fooling with Kmail I misspelled worldnet in the from line as wroldnet but the reply to address was spelled correctly. most ISP's do not check to see if a sender uses a valid addressbut evidently AOL and newbie does? as they rejected my messages.I suppose that is a anti spam thing? double check those spellings, I overlooked that one a dozen times...also look for a random period that you finger may have put in by itself? like the tester once said (paraphrased)those tiny viruses get their sharp little claws into my keyboard -- Olly P. Biloxi Mississippi Linux MDK 8.0 and Kmail 2.1.1 ATX Plll 600mhz Asus CUBX ...384m PC133ram 11:37am up 58 min, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] docking apps dissappear
Subsequent to my installation of MDK 8.0,, whenever I check the box in KPPP to dock the application, instead of docking as it did in MDK 7.2 it just disappears? although the connection remains operable ...in order to shut it down ,I must kill the PID. I checked some other KDE dockable apps (teatimer and kmoon) both of which never appear from the menubut show a running PID in the system. I tried to innitiate them from a terminal and I get this error. [olly@localhost olly]$ kmoon Xlib: extension RENDER missing on display :0.0. - Assuming this is the cause? does it mean I don't have some component installed? everything else seems to function OK would there be an RPM with this render extension? ORis it a matter of editing some init file to allow render to render? I don't have a clue for a direction to pursue the problem, or attempt to render a solution ..8-).. and would appreciate someone giving me a little advice. gratefully yours -- Olly P. Biloxi Mississippi Linux MDK 8.0 and Kmail 2.1.1 ATX Plll 600mhz Asus CUBX ...384m PC133ram Doubt isn't the opposite of faith; it is an element of faith. - Paul Tillich, German theologian and historian 12:37am up 9:30, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.05, 0.01 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] U.S.Robotics/3Com
On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 02:25:36 -0500, you wrote: Am I missing something? Also, when I go to setup in dialup, I notice the list of devices range from ttys0 - ttys3, but I noticed that the modem was using com 5! I'm getting there but I get in deeper and deeper into confusion. :) 18Aug01 1210hrs I had the same response from Mdk 7.2 as you outlined above Roger, the key is to add a setserial line... mine looks like this: # setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16550a port 0xa400 irq 4 (of course you will have to use your 0x? and irq number) when it works you can add the above setserial line to /etc/rc.d/rc.local ...it will work on bootup thereafter. check it with this: [root@localhost olly]# setserial -a /dev/ttyS3 /dev/ttyS3, Line 3, UART: 16550A, Port: 0xa400, IRQ: 4 Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0 closing_wait: 3000 Flags: spd_normal Rather than try to recreate a complicated procedure in this mail to give you the particulars on finding out all this information...I am going to send you an article written by Bill Unrahwho knows more about the modem setups than anyone else on the planet 8-).(my opinion).,,, to the addr you have listed above.. this article really helped methanks Bill Unrah. don't pay any attention to the fact that Linux says you have a winmodem.is this particular case it is speaking with a forked tongue grin. look for another mail with Bills article. later Olly P Olly P RV Char 257 Biloxi Mississippi Mailed W98 via Forte Agent mailer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS Outlook
On Tuesday 13 March 2001 02:15, Aldo Baez wrote: I think he means whether he can import individual pieces of mail from outlook to kmail. I've always wondered that myself. What I've done in the past is just forwarded/copied all the mail I wanted to have in my new mail client, the in the new client receive it again. Thats really the only way I have figured to get it right. aldo - Tue Mar 13 13:22:08 2001 I don't have outlook experience, but I use forte agent in MS it will export mail in Unix format and I just drop the file intact into the kmail directory and kmail reads it perfectlyI know this is no help with outlook, but it did cure my MS mail tranfer problem... -- Olly P Biloxi Mississippi *mailed from Linux Via Kmail*
[newbie] canon bjc 4100
Sat Mar 10 15:29:51 2001 I hooked up the old canon to the ATX machine , MDK 7.2 was hungry for drivers, and asked for installation disc one... Unfortunately I have mailed that disc to Australia...(A self solving problem with the release of MDK 8.0) so I put up a message in Kmail, selected "print".and it printedwhy? with no drivers? Unfortunately, with every print job comes a page and a half "prolog" by trolltech.How can I shut this prolog off? since this printer never exhibited this behavior in MDK 6.1 ...I will assume that the drivers there squelched the prolog? I wonder if I could take the drivers from the 6.1 disc and use them in 7.2? -- Olly P Biloxi Mississippi *mailed from Linux Via Kmail*
[newbie] MDK Tractopel
the management wrote: New story on (http://www.mandrakeforum.com) The first Beta of the upcoming Linux-Mandrake 8.0 (Traktopel) is available -- Wed Feb 28 21:08:38 2001 Well fortunately they said Tractopel meant "plow" in French. Unfortunately I am handicapped with struggling with a single language (badly) and have no clue on the pronouncing of this French word? Is it Trac-too-pell? Track-toupee? or perhaps Tract-opel? Someone please provide a phonetic rendition, to preclude embarrassment in case I meet a French speaker face to face? -- Olly P Biloxi Mississippi *mailed from Linux Via Kmail*
Re: [newbie] SPAM
On Tuesday 27 February 2001 05:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday I posted that I had not come across this - I have now ! My question, I use Kmail and would like to bounce these but there does not appear to be a filter rule "bounce" does anyone no how to do this ? If not will forwarding it to /dev/null get rid of it without me even seeing it ? --- Thu Mar 1 00:01:40 2001 I can't answer your bounce question Poogle, but what I do ,on particularily irritating threads is to set a filter to put them into trash, and I don't see them unless I am digging in the trash ,grin out they go when I dump the trash. of course none of your messages. 8-) -- Olly P Biloxi Mississippi *mailed from Linux Via Kmail*
Re: [newbie] want my linux work faster and networking
On Saturday 17 February 2001 12:17, Paul Rodrguez wrote: What do you mean by their own safety? -Paul R Sat Feb 17 12:54:29 2001 What Tom is telling you Paul , is that rogue programs can be imbedded into HTML that can damage your microsoft system when you read the HTML mail...so for your own safety you should not use HTML. Not only that it is poor brinkmanship to post to the list in HTML..you are also putting yourself (your system) at risk if you use it. (sorry Tom grin) -- Olly P Biloxi Mississippi *mailed from Linux Via Kmail*
Re: [newbie] info on harddrive optimization in mandrake install?
On Sunday 11 February 2001 10:01, walter hanagriff wrote: i checked hardware profiles(if your referring to the tab under system properties), and in the box i have original configuration, and 3 buttons, copy, rename, and delete no option to see what hardware i actually have, i have checked in tab device manager also but no luck -- Sun Feb 11 09:47:33 2001 As you start your computer Walter, enter the bios setup by using the key combination for your specific computer.it should have the hard drive info listed there -- Olly P Biloxi Mississippi *mailed from Linux Via Kmail*
Re: [newbie] Distro
On Wednesday 07 February 2001 18:42, scxxx linux wrote: Knowing that this list belongs to Mandrake users. I want to know the bunch of reasons why you picked up mandrakes distribution. -- Wed Feb 7 20:08:17 2001 Well Chava, I selected MDK from five distros and demos that I had in my hand...the sole reason was that it was the one , that was optomised for a pentium processer... I had no experience at all with Linux and based my selection on that one fact.. I have now built a Plll ATX machine and am running MDK 7.2 .. I have never tried another Distro because ,,extensive study has not revealed any features that MDK does not already provide for my specific application.. I am quite comfortable with this list and with the mandrakers like Civileme et al.. helping me when I hit a wall... I fully intend to continue running MDK and am anxiously anticipating the coming release of version 8. besides I wouldn't look good in a red hat. -- Olly P Biloxi Mississippi *mailed from Linux Via Kmail*
Re: [newbie] Memory Miss reported and shutdownd command
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:41:07 +,Dennis wrote: showing only 64 M of memory on boot up and in control panel. I went into lilo and did the append="mem=256" and still no change. The MoBo shows the correct amount of memory on boot -- Sun, 28 Jan 2001 16:20:42 I don't think your append line is written correctly Dennis..you need a "M" ..if I remember correctly? Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 18:32:14 -0500, you wrote: i tried putting the "mem=128m" under the 1st image=/boot/vmlinuz, which didn't help either. this is the lilo.conf produced from linuxconfboot mode -- there, i set boot options to 'mem=128m', and it produced this file. let me know if you have any ideas. thanks, salman --- Sun, 28 Jan 2001 18:06:04 Try it with a capital M Salman. 128M..secondly, you can only have one append line...so put all the info in one append line. Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:14:59 -0500, you wrote: i can only have one altogether? so are the other two screwing things up? thanks, salman - Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:48:08 I do not profess to being an expert Salman, not ever having this problem...but from just reading of the fish flopping in this list..I have learned that Lilo can only have one append line and that line can have multiple information entries There is always the possibility that I have learned it incorrectly however...in which case Mark or Tom should jump on me at this point? Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:19:42 -0600, Tom B wrote: Not to jump Olly, but I believe there's a clarification to be made. Each "title" section in grub's menu.lst, or each "label" section in lilo's lilo.conf, can have it's own and different 'append=' line. So while there could be many 'append=' lines in the conf file, there should only be one per section (title / label). Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:42:11 Thanks Tom...I remembered the part about one append, but not about "per section" grin. sometimes I have to learn things several times before I get it exact. 8-) Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Add a modem into com port 5
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:29:34 +0800, Herbert wrote: As you know by using "kpp" we can only add the modem into com port 1 to port 4. Would you tell me how to add a modem into the com port 5 ? Best regards Herbert --- Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:27:07 Well Herbertfrom what you wrote above I can only guess that you are trying to set up your modem in linux on the equivalent of com port 5 because M$ windows indicates it is on com 5? If this is true? it does not matter what windows calls it...I have a PCI modem that windows M$ w95a shows on com 5. In MDK 7.2 I have it set on ttyS3 and it works greatforget what windows shows...just make sure that you have no conflicts with the IRQ... I had mine on with a USB controller and it errored "modem is busy"..until I switched PCI slots. Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Unable to see cdrom
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:03:37 -0800,Mike wrote: ls: /mnt/cdrom: Input/output error If I try to access /Root/mnt/cdrom from Konqueror I get:- unable to enter file:/mnt/cdrom. You do not have access rights to this location. I would be very grateful if anyone can help me. Mike Baker Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:29:08 You cannot access these files as a user Mike...try with root privileges, by click the big "K" ..then on the menu select "applications" then "file tools" then "file manager super user mode" Enter your root password into the block and you can now read all those root files..be careful what you change. Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] modem problem
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 03:39:54 ,Mark wrote: i recently bought a zoom 56k fax/modem. i added it to my computer and configured it properly. i then went to dial my isp and when it tried to initialize, it sat there for ever. and it did not dial. i am using mandrake 7.2 with kde. i was wondering if there was something i am overlooking. mark --- Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:12:00 Well Mark, I just went through a long struggle to finally get my Zoom 2920 working sucessfully You need to give a little more info...is it PCI? are you trying with KPPP? what errors are you getting? Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Ghost Mailspool
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:18:33 -0600, Olly wrote: Are you familiar with socket problems...what would normally be a logical approach for repair of sticky sockets? or trouble shooting ? The man fetchmail says "treat it as an unrecoverable error" wellI must do some recovery...somehow... -- Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:38:29 I got it Mark...heeheee I am happy to report that the problem is cured and I can download mailand it savesgrin Here is the fix: from a FaQ written by Eric S. Raymond, at [EMAIL PROTECTED] R7. Fetchmail randomly dies with socket errors. Check the MTU value in your PPP interface reported by /sbin/ifconfig. If it's over 600, change it in your PPP options file. (/etc/ppp/options on my box). Here are option values that work: mtu 552 mru 552 - I added the above options to my /etc /ppp/options file and it works nicely I do not profess to even a slight knowledge of the intricate relationship between ppp and the various mailprogram protocalsBut it seems to me that a mtu value in the ppp interface is in fact a ppp related problem. At any rate, the problem is cured and I am getting mail...hopefully this may help someone else, for this is not an easy problem for a beginner to research..I could not determine if the difficulty originated with worldnet server., my programs ,,or a combination of the two? But now it is over...until the next problem 8-) Thank you for your help and patience. Olly P
Re: [newbie] Ghost Mailspool
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:48:19 -0500 (EST), you wrote: Where are you telling it to go when you download the mail from the server? -- Mark Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:51:06 Hi MarkThe Kmail is setup to go to ~/Mail and that dir does exist..this is default and I did not attempt to redirect it... The netscape mail ~/nsmailsame data applies. these are two different mail programs so my problem must be something that is applicable to both? it seems to be downloading but not saving? It will save newsgroups in PAN but I did notice a couple of times when all the data was gone, and then mysteriously reappeared? but I am unfamiliar as to how all these programs function as I have never had a modem that actually does Linux until recently. An old time user of "Forte agent" I was trying to not compare PAN in its present infancy and am overlooking small things until I get a clue on what is what.. I am guessing, the mail should go directly to the program element directory that requested the download?...and not go to /var/ like maybe fetchmail would?...I can't try it in fetchmail for when I tried to set it up the fetchmailconf crashed and is now jammed If I command "fetchmail" or "fetchmailconf" I get a error message: fetchmail: couldn't find canonical DNS name of postoffice.worldnet.att.net `umask 077; fetchmail --configdump --no syslog /tmp/fetchmailconf.4010' run failure, status 2816.unknown error while running fetchmail --configdump. The above translates to me as it errored running conf and it errored again trying to dump? I have found no log entrys? But this occurred when I was trying to set up fetchmail after the two GUI mailprograms wouldn't saveand may not be related or perhaps yes? One other thing .I noticed is while in PAN I get errors of socket problems.(remember my total operating time with this program equals less than one hour) I think these sockets would also be used in the other programs although they don't say anything as PAN does? Do you think my whole problem might be sticky sockets? Thanks for responding Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Ghost Mailspool
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:59:30 -0500 (EST), Mark wrote: Oliver, The fetchmail error you're getting when you tried to download mail with command line fetchmail is a communication error between fetchmail and the TCP/IP stack...so to speak. I get that error when I issue a fetchmail command froma terminal window and my modem isnn't connected to the internet. Alright.'..stop laughing...pick yourself up off the floor. It was late and I needed to unplug. - Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:52:19 How embarrassing Mark heehenot for you though, but for me..grin It seems as though the fetchmail conf Was done already, and trying to access the IP connection that I had not established...as you describe above...geeso much for my five minutes of experience with fetchmail. When running fetchmail (with a connection) I can see the mail being downloaded much as before with all the other mail programs.. However now I get another nice error message that the other programs did not mention...this may explain the whole problem of not getting a mail file.? -- fetchmail 13 messages for ollyplaine at postoffice.worldnet.att.net (2429878 octets) . reading message 1 of 13 (662174 octets) fetchmail time out after 300 seconds. fetchmail: client /server syncronization error while fetching from postoffice.worldnet.att.net, fetchmail: query status =7 (error) -- Looks like I rolled a seven? Ok what syncronizes the two? obviously , though the mail is coming down..the download never closes and saves? I am going to search for an explanation of error 7...meanwhile does the above mean anything to you? Tell me...the path statement that you have entered for these programs, does it read ~/Mail ~/nsmail, or /home/username/Mail /home/username/nsmail? they should bothe read as the latter two read. If they don't change them and let me know what happens. Naw Mark...I didn't enter anything...those were defaults ...I was just telling you where they were. I am sure the GUI pathed them correctly it just don't show the whole path...but anyway those files are made in the proper directories...(but empty). You and I both know that every mail program on the machine is not broken..it is weird how every one conceals information differently...Kmail don't say anything...NS says it is downloading one...but fetchmail gives me a sync error...that is the most helpful yet...I still don't have a clue what to do though? Thanks for the help Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Ghost Mailspool
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:21:05 -0500, Mark W wrote: Since it has to hand off the mail to someone, beit Postfix, or Sendmail usually, that is the next place I would look in this chain to see if it's functioning correctly. The weird thing in this is that it's not just fetchmail that is having this problem. It is all three of the programs that you've tried. Which would then point back to your ISP as having the problem. So, I think I would give their tech support a call, or write them an email and breifly describe, in simple terms, that you're unable to connect to the mailserver and download your email when you're connected to them with Linux. --- Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:58:25 I am running postfix Markdoes the mail have to go thru postfix even when you are using Kmail? with this same ATX machine, I have an old cut up copy of W95a (first generation)..and forte agent...using this same modem and same ISP it functions flawlessly.what would Linux be doing differently that would create a ISP end problem,,,? Every one of these mailprograms ask for the pop3 server , username and password separately ..from that I gather that they are an independent entity and do not use a common file (like chap secrets) to pass the pop information? or do they all trigger postfix? any how ...there is provision for multiple servers so that would mean they were independent? I donno...what is microsoft telling this modem? I wonder?..all the other stuff works well...just pop3 is giving me an aneurism.. thanks for you efforts Mark... still thinking slowly...I will fix this eventually 8-) Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Ghost Mailspool
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:18:03 -0600, I wrote: Every one of these mailprograms ask for the pop3 server , username and password separately - Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:05:20 Another bean falls into the pot Markwhile messing with the pop3 password I discovered that one changed character produces an error, so I am now confident that the data is correct. I exercised all the mail programs, with the thought that exercise will make a strong penguinthe fetchmail came up with a sig 2..cannot open a socket to retrieve mail. Aha..this meshes with some errors I had obtained from Pan previously and makes me believe I was correct in the idea that my problem was one of saving on my end Are you familiar with socket problems...what would normally be a logical approach for repair of sticky sockets? or trouble shooting ? The man fetchmail says "treat it as an unrecoverable error" wellI must do some recovery...somehow... Olly P Biloxi
[newbie] Ghost Mailspool
Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:08:09 When I attempt to download mail in Kmail or Netscape mail in MDK 7.2 With a solid connection to my ISP with Kppp I can trigger "get messages" and see in the" details" window of Kppp, the graphic representation of the mail being downloaded.. On the Kppp status graph I can see the transfer spikes lined up like soldiers and the lights blink and everything appears to be downloading ok..the bytes read 669 out and 42256 in.however when the row of spikes quit...the netscape still says downloading 1 of 20 and does not progress... and no mail file is to be found... Where does it go.?.A mystic bitbucket? I have searched all over temp and var to no avail I can download newsgroups in Pan and Netscape I can browse with netscape and KonQbut no pop 3...??? Fetchmailconf crashed and is kaput...this happened after the above though and is not causitive...but I cant use it. Has anyone a suggestion on where my mail might be? thank you Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] ISA PnP modem won't respond
On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 02:25:20 -0700, Miark wrote: But when I try to connect to the Internet in KDE, I'm told that the modem "won't respond" to either /dev/ttyS0 or to /dev/modem (which would be the same, thanks to modemtool). If I try ttyS1 or anything else, I'm told that the device is "busy", so it knows something is different about ttyS0. I've been reading and working through this problem for almost 4 hours, and I've about given up. What do I do from here? Sun, 14 Jan 2001 08:01:16 Hello Miark...when I struggled with this problem it turned out to be an IRQ conflict between the modem and a USB controller...I did not find this easy because I had deactivated the USB in bios and thought it dead... However it still sucked the life from the modem and gave me the "modem is busy" not very helpful error. Run this tric procinfo and see what is listed on the irq? Run this tric cat /proc/pcithat may give you some info also? Run this tric setserial -g /dev/ttyS*it gives all the tty and irq info Look for stuff on the same irq as the modem is using like especially a mouse and try moving the irq of the modem around? Four hours?? no big dealI fought it for many weeks 8-) Luck to you Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Re: Learning curves
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:46:04 -0500, Jim T wrote: As a Civil Engineer every graph I ever saw involving time had time on the X axis. Therefor the steeper the curve the quicker things happened. How come everyone has ir backwards? Jim T. -- Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:29:44 It is as you say Jim...and that is the whole problem ..everything has to be learned at once in order to operate the system...It is so hard, but it must be done this way... If the curve was sloped gently, we wouldn't be able to power up until about year 2003...8-) we have to know a bunch of material just to get started...well... at the rate I am going, I will get to some functions..pan and wine etc. sometime in 2003... I wish I could do like Roman, he has completely disassembled his system and rebuilt it several times in the last six months...meanwhile I am struggling to get one lousey modem working? Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
[newbie] listing comport
Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:56:10 MDK 7.2..when I run this tric: ls -al /dev/modem And it returns this string. rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Dec 3 21:09 /dev/modem - /dev/ttyS1 Is it telling me that I have an actual modem connected to ttyS1 and it is finding it there? Or is it reading some configuration file that I made with setserial, and parroting bogus information back at me... I have all the info in the world and I don't know what it means This modem will dial, "or they will carry me out!" Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie]vmware and Xfree86v.4
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:25:10 -0500, you wrote: Dear All, I just found out that vmware does not work with the new Xfree86 version 4. I have already paid $99 for it and downloaded it. What would be the best thing to do now? I definitely wish to use it. Thanks for your help. Marcia Fri, 24 Nov 2000 22:48:52 Since you already spent the money Marcia, and you do want the program, one option would be to reinstall and elect not to use version four...the expert install I know, gives you that choice... One word of caution from someone who did an all nighter with 7.2 saturday grin. As soon as the partitioning program reads your table and gives the panel to make the first change...Immediatly stick in a blank floppy and hit the save to floppy button...this will make a copy of the table that you can recover to, when the thing freezes. There is something bad wrong with it, as I have heard too many tales of woe..on this very listone is going on right now. In my case it would freeze and I would have to hit reset to boot back to the CD...at that time the partition table is GONE..work forward to the panel again and hit restore from floppy and you will be fine again. I never got past building an extended partition, nothing could be put in it? although I gave it many tries..thanks to the floppy.. I finally wound up using the wizard and it did OK but the partitions are where he wants them and not like I wanted them. I am so glad I did not have to reinstall M$.. if I didn't have that little backup, I would have likely went off the building...and that would not have worked either as I live in a one story 8-). Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] 7.2 install Malfunction on partition
On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:54:13 -0800, Alan S wrote: OllyI can think offhand of two basic approaches. One would be to boot up on your other Linux system, login as root and use fdisk to delete partition 4 and then log out and reboot with the installation CD and let it do the partitioning automatically telling it to use the unpartitioned area of the drive at the proper time. The other also would be to boot up on your other Linux system, login as root and this time to use fdisk to add the partitions inside partition 4 and then log out and reboot with the installation CD. Then boot up with the installation CD and when it asks, assign the mount points yourself. -- Alan -- Wed, 22 Nov 2000 02:13:12 Both logical solutions Alan, but my other system is in a old P-166 across the room (no lan 8-) .and my Tom's rootboot is too old for Mdk 7.2...but I think I am over... Here is the saga, long and plaintive... I started with a 2g fat16 with W95 newly on, a brand new 20 gig Ibm Deskstar..working well, even the PCI modem...the rest of the disc" Bare". I started the MDK 7.2 install and rapidly arrived at "expert" Disc partitioning ...I made another 2gig fat and then a 30m Linux boot and the forth primary went to an extended linux partition for the rest of the disc... For some reason? I stuck in a floppy and hit the "write table to backup" button (or similar)...man I am so glad I did, because this install was spiraling out of control,I would have been in the same condition as Pauls install.. but for that floppy I would have lost the table. A normal person would have waited until the table was complete to back it up? After I tried to put linux partitions on the extended, nothing worked as advertised ..it would accept one and then overwrite it then it would give the old "proceed at your own risk" error that Paul mentioned as he lost his.then the whole install froze tight... I was compelled to hit reset and boot back to the CD-Rom, work forward to the part table, and then recover from the floppy... back to the extended partition like clockwork I tried every way even putting swap 1st in the extended? after rebooting several more times ( love that floppy)...I decided to do a delete on the extended and run the wizard.well that worked OK and KDE sits before me in nice color In summery, I will say I am not happy with the fact that I have no separate Var and home, and all the other things I like to do with partitions...I sadly miss the Fdisk option of Helios 6.1 and doubt that I will be able to live without a separate home at the minimum...I wish they would have given me an option to choose Fdisk. I will mail these discs to Australia tomorrow, but I plan to get another pair... Next time, I shall use the Fdisk from my 6.1 to rig the Deskstar and then start the 7.2 install on a completed table. Thank you for your good suggestions Alan, in my moment of panic...it was a good fight til three o clock in the morning ,. I half way won grin. Pardon my arrogance in using a "Expert install" 8-) Thanks again Olly P Biloxi Mississippi PS..it took 45 min to suck both disks with the wizard, a total "development" should be there.
Re: [newbie] 7.2 install Malfunction on partition(Correction)
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:11:34 -0600, I wrote: In summery, I will say I am not happy with the fact that I have no separate Var and home, and all the other things I like to do with partitions...I sadly miss the Fdisk option of Helios 6.1 and doubt that I will be able to live without a separate home at the minimum...I wish they would have given me an option to choose Fdisk. --- Wed, 22 Nov 2000 05:58:59 Now that I have looked at this install I see that I was wrong about the above statement...the Home is in a separate partition on the wizard installI would have done some of it different...however what I said was incorrect. Long night grin. Olly P
[newbie] 7.2 install Malfunction on partition
Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:45:50 I am sitting here in trouble with my penguin, While preforming a MDK 7.2 expert installation (Hey,..no smirking) 8-) I cannot make anything go into the Linux extended partition with this installer? I have a 2g dos on hda primary 1...and another on primary 2...primary 3 is a 30m linux boot I made primary 4 a Linux extended to the end of the 20g IBM deskstar..all seems OK. I have clicked that installer to death but it will not allow me to put the rest of the partitions into the extended? just ...nobody home...it is not frozen or locked, it just will not open a panel for the next partition in the extended. Type linux extended partition 0x85...that is the correct type? right?. This is the touchey part of the install and I really don't want to destroy the table...but if someone would suggest an area to apply some force, I will tap it a little? Waiting for you Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Novice Help
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:55:11 -0500, Bob wrote: clip of queries: Questions are: 1. What are my alternatives? 2. Can I load Linux on a non-boot drive and then use Bios configuration when I want to use Linux. 3. Is there any quick way to move programs out of the boot drive without causing havoc? 4. Is the world really round? --- Fri, 22 Sep 2000 23:47:37 Hello Bob, Q1. if you are able to obtain another physical drive, you could install linux there, booting with a floppy or changing bios calls, In my opinion is too much work, it is far easier to install LILO on your primary drive MBR (where C boots now) and have it boot your second physical drive (HDb). that would give you good space for linux. You could clean one of your dos partitions and put linux there, but 2G is not really enough room for a large modern install and still have room to play with large programs or save a lot of data. Q2..awl gee, I answered this in 1 above. Q3. I assume you mean programs that are now installed in M$ windows?...you would have to uninstall them first, if you just remove them... the M$ registry will be unhappy. but that could be done and things moved to get a partition.in a pinch. Q4. most people do subscribe to this scientific fact, however there is a group known as "the flat earth society" that profess to disbelieve..8-) Q5..(I add) there are other things you can do also, depending of course on your own aims..there are several distros that fit entirely on a floppy...they are small but still fun, and make good recovery systems. The only way to get a plan, is to read extensively...All the information you need is on the web at many linux locations..one of the best is mandrakeuser.org or follow links from sites like slash dot. there are "howtos" written on everything..if you have a distro in your possession they are on that CD. This group is a goldmine of info and will bail you out when the going gets impossible...but your responsibility will still remain to read the manuals.I find it all quite difficult, that is what makes it fun...it is much easier after you get a feel for finding all the information that is around, free for the taking grin PS..your system beats my p 166 with 24M ram, 8-) and I am running MDK 6.1 quite nicely. Olly P
Re: [OT] Who uses Linux? (was RE: [newbie] Mandrake...too many apps?)
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 05:12:17 +1200,Duchess wrote: p.s. i have the wardrobe, though! six t-shirts from thinkgeek.com! and i have a stuffed penguin! and i devour slashdot upon a daily basis... oh, god, *please* tell me i'm not a total failure and i have the makings of a "real" linux user...!! Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:27:45 A real Linux user you shall surely be Duchess, and if you are in fact writing from the perspective of a fifteen year old, a talented writer also I would wager. Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] User can't login
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:30:21 +0800, Magicshooter wrote: clip: As for your problem, you must go bookshope to buy related books with linux command which you had to go by the hard way to learn and read first. Linux is not a user friendly O.S...infact i had read and bought few books which cause me about 2 hundreds dollars.infact after compared , i found that though it is a free O.S but at the end i endup spending quite a bit money for its related materials. Nevertheless, i even found it difficult to configure the internet network too. Hm..have to be patient and go slowly by the book via on root command promt to try out first before trying the X window...thats my advice so far. Hope you dont blow your mind off with Linux. ahahhhah aa os. not easy to use..indeed.! bye now. Magicshooter. -- Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:52:06 I agree with you Magic, on the part about Linux being not easy, but that is why it is fun,.8-) I must disagree however on the spending of big dollars on booksthis is not at all necessary, all the information in the world is right there on the internet no further than your keyboard. No one needs to buy any books, just search the linux sites and links...all the info is there... .get "teach_yourself_linux_in_twentyfour_hrs.pdf...a free download (four meg .pdf) it is a good one. By the way Fred, unless you are running a world bank or something, why not just decrease your security level to something sane? paranoid is a little much to protect your doom game..don'tca think 8-). Later Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] VMware
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 21:36:57 EDT, you wrote: Dear Anyone, Is VMware in Linux-Mandrake 7.0 complete? If so, where can if be found ? Thank you, Marcia Thu, 14 Sep 2000 21:16:45 Dear Marcia...not absolutely positive but I think, vmware is a commercial program ..the kind they want...awk..money for...the free one is wine,,,that one is on the MDK disc's but if vmware is, I wouldn't think it would be a complete only demo,,,unless they made it GPL and didn't tell me?na .. 8-) anyone grin
Re: [newbie] remove from the list
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:19:26 -0500,Rob wrote: If there is another way than this to remove myself from this list can someone please let me know. Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:44:37 We on this list cannot unzubscribe you. To unzubscribe -(spell like this except replace z with an s) Return to the page from which you signed up, and follow the instructions, just use the link below. http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 or you can send an e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unzubscribe newbie (replace z with an s) in the subject line
Re: [newbie] Hacker on Licq
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:29:59 -0700, Robin wrote: Yesterday, some hacker from Spain got into my system and started to hacking away at some of my linux files especially in Licq files. --- Tue, 12 Sep 2000 16:38:15 I am sorry Robin that I don't know enough to be able to help you, but I have a question How long were you online that gave the bad guy opportunity to do damage...are you continually hooked up online? The reason I ask is I am using the fly low approach of hit, get the mail/info, and get off the phone line ... I feel sort of naked while I am doing it -- Olly P Biloxi Mississippi "when I lay down to sleep at night, I see little images of my computer screen...they must be burned into my retina? I wonder if they make contact lenses with little screensavers?"op
Re: [newbie] Hacker on Licq
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:51:03 BST, Robert wrote: clip for all you know it could be a virus, soon as you open it, your infected...Oh yes, see all the stuff at the top of this e-mail, their's enough info there for you to be hacked..worrying isn't it...by the way, don't get the wrong idea...i'm not a hacker..i just study alot. - Tue, 12 Sep 2000 19:06:30 Thank you Robert for super good advice, and that firewall is my plan, however being the procrastinator that I am, I am trying to stall until I complete my new computer and install the new coming MDK, then the security will tighten. You are right about the constant studying (an absolute for this OS), I am hard at it in a different area 8-)...security is a whole world onto itself, I just hope they don't drag me up wrapped in IP chains. I am not the one in trouble now, that is Robin, but I am in danger, as we all share I suppose, Thanks again for the info -- Olly P Biloxi Mississippi "when I lay down to sleep at night, I see little images of my computer screen...they must be burned into my retina? I wonder if they make contact lenses with little screensavers?"op
Re: [newbie] I can't detect my modem
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:49:06 -0400,John wrote: For my modem, I need to install a special RPM driver made by lucent. So I have a new question. I downloaded the file with windows. How do i access the file from linux? Is this possible? Oh, and I haven't a clue how to install it, but my knowledge grows by the hour ). John --- Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:38:58 I do it this way a lot John, from Linux you must make a mount point for the M$ Windows drive and edit an entry into your fstab file... There is a howto outlining the procedure ..check MUO ..Mandrake users .org there is a wealth of info on that site Be sure to identify the drive as vfat, this way the long filenames will be preserved, using a dos identifier will lose long filenames. Then you can navigate the whole windows(linux refers to as dos) partition and copy up any file to linux... With RPM files I have had no problem but with zipped files, The only problem I have had is sometimes the files mysteriously become unzipped? then when you run tar.gz it shows an error like "not a GZ file" the way around that is to put a set of " " around the file name and don't use the z...example...tar -xvf "somefile.tar.gz" .and that should do it. Inside the tarball will be a readme normally on how to install. you may gain from looking at...man manman tar man rpm ..just type them in any term How did you make out yesterday with the no X problem? was the midnight commander any help? Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] grub question
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 19:48:35 +1200, you wrote: The first penguin said: ..linux will not even mount it. So how do I go about making a new boot disk? Mike The second penguin said I may need correction here mkbootdisk (uname) from a console as root --- Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:46:00 another one notices a paradox: If his boot disc won't boot, he cannot get in to run anything? right? so how will he get to make another boot disc with no access to the Linux? I don't know the real answer perhaps, but one of the mini distros like Toms rootbt would let you mount a file system in your Linux. or you may be able to use your install disc to get in? Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
[newbie]
clip: I then invoke e-config select the theme and restart enlightenment I then receive a "it's all gone a bit wrong message" about the module accessing memory it shouldn't. Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:16:55 Hi Jason and Manuel. I have settled on Afterstep in this 24M ram machine, it has a lot of functions and a much smaller footprint than enlightenment. I also was getting continual segfaults with enlightenment. You do not have to install the themes for afterstep, just drop them into the folder as tarballs and they work, I am quite pleased with afterstep and will continue to use it on the larger capacity computer I am now building.. Afterstep has a mailing list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I really like this WM so obviously it is the best one. 8-) Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] Very simple question on Partitioning
On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:00:00 EDT, Gary wrote: excerpt: Is there a simple way to resize a DOS partition without having to reinstall Windoze, for those of us still stuck having to use it? -Gary- Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:12:25 Normally the old M$ install has already taken the whole disc...I used a program called fips to nondestructively resize it.. you should have it on your Linux disc someplace, it is a floppy image you can put on a boot disc with rawrite in M$... defrag and scandisc and follow the really good instructions in fips...this good old program will not work with NT or maybe some of the later 98's I don't remember. but it has a backup program built in that will restore your partition table if it gets smeared. I made good use of that.8-) Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] Mass directory delete
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:38:10 -0500,Flupke wrote:
If there are several directories called ".xvpics", and you want to erase
them all, issue a :
find / -type d -a -name .xvpics -exec rm -rf {} \;
and it will erase all of them without any confirmation prompt.
HTH
Flupke
--
Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:48:16
Hi Flupke, please rewrite your command string above to include,making
a back up to a file in home before deleting for me woudja?
I think it should go after xvpics and of course before rm, but
am unsure of exactly where. of course I am aware of the" Newbie in
the red pepper" dangers of rm grin.
tnk you
Olly P
Biloxi
Mississippi
Re: [Re: [newbie] Module Help]
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:36:34 -0700,steve wrote: I got an external modem for $50 and it is plenty feature rich that it gets done what I paid for: get to the internet and e-mail (and the occasional ftp and telnet connection). --- Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:24:21 Sounds good Steve, I am shopping for one...what model is it and where did you find it? Tnk you Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Cannot get Version 7.1 Deluxe to install
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000 10:03:28 PDT,Dennis wrote: Hi Mandrake Linux Help Desk, I guess I must be one of a small minority who cannot get version 7.1 Deluxe to install on his/her PC. I have made three thorough attempts and all goes well until the final step where the X configuration test is done. -- Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:35:20 This is not really a Mandrake help desk Dennis, but rather a mail list of users who voluntarily help one another, I am afraid you cannot get your money back from us grin... Obviously your install is bombing on a video anomaly, how about trying a expert or a text install and try to get the video working by setting it up manually? you will need to find the scan rates etc on your monitor from your owners manual or from a web site, but the chances of getting it to function are very good with the help of the citizens on this list. You are in the correct place to find help..good luck getting it going...sometimes it is very hard to do, but that is why it is fun8-) Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] Problem with Cdrom and floppy under Mandrake7
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:15:33 +0200,Danilo wrote: I have just installed mandreke 7 and my Cd-rom and floppy don't work. When I try to file in it a message that says "Impossible to elencate yhe content of this directory" appears. Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:56:44 Hi Danilo, The answer to your problem most likely, lies in the addition of correct entries in your fstab file, direct your research into this area. You will have to edit the fstab file with an editor like pico (if you have pine installed pico comes with that) add entries for your cdrom, your floppy, and If you have M$ windows also you will likely want to make an entry for vfat (vfat will preserve long file names) rather than dos.make a copy of the file before editing just in case it goes wrong. I am not sure, but I think, the cd writer must be entered as an scsi device rather than a normal cd rom? Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] How to open a program as different user?
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000 21:03:52 +0100 (BST), you wrote: On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Joan Tur wrote: Hallo! Now i know how to open a program as root having logged in as user... but how do i open a program as a different user? 8-) Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:51:09 If I understand what you are trying to do Joan..you are logged in as user..and In a term your prompt is $. To start a program as root...type su root ent...then it will ask for password.wordneededent Then your prompt will be...# ...so start whatever program you are root. As you say above you know how to do this? ok I assume you wish to be another user besides root? to do that ..ctl alt F2 and log is as the user you want to be, and run your program from that console. If you have some other plan, post back and we will pull another rabbit from the hat 8-). Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] playing .wav sounds and .au sounds
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:19:16 +0100, bascule wrote: i have noticed that a lot of my wav files from windows won't play in linux, also some that came with downloaded linux progs, is linux restricted in some way due to use of commercial codecs etc.? also what prog do i need to play .au sounds bascule - Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:32:48 Hello again Bascule, I have the same problem with wav files, some will play and some wont...this is because my soundcard is only soundblaster compatible to 8bit...the larger bit wav won't play and some of the others that do play are not too groovy. 8-) Like Paul says, I can play .au in a term by typing...play path/to/somesound.au... bye Olly_P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] KCharset
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 20:13:00 -0400, you wrote: I'm regularly getting the message: KCharset: wrong char set. Is there something I can edit to correct whatever is wrong? Michael Coady Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:55:03 I remember having this happen Michael, and I think I cured that error by going into the setting on the kde and changing the language to english in two places on the drop down box. I wish I could remember where I read this fix, but I do remember that it worked..8-) Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] Partitioning questions
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:12:45 +0100,Lance wrote: One idea that appeals to me is having separate partitions for /, /boot, /home, etc. --- Sat, 19 Aug 2000 16:33:32 a perfect idea Lance, as It mirrors my thoughts precisely 8-), in my opinion the most important one to have separate is /home...that way you can install op sys and format other partitions without losing your personal files and settings...makes it the prime candidate for backups also. One caution...if you make separate partitions for /usr and usr local ...do not make my mistake and spell them /user and user local with the rediculous assumption that Linux can spell.usr ..hrumph! Otherwise the install will filter into the correct partitions automatically. While the FMs are full of useful detail, they all seem to *just* fall short of answering my question. So I turn to the Linux-newbie brains trust for assistance. I also ran into this, and the reason for it is, there is no correct answer that will work for every system...so everyone talks around the issue and you never get an answer that is meaningful. another caution here...a lot of the info you will find was written way back when hard drives were the size of dimes and will not depict your requirements for your thirteen gig drive. but no matter how you carve it up in about three weeks you will see that you should have done it some other wayfor my purposes 13g is way larger than I need so I am just holding my plan for some future install with room to spare for now. Right. I have a 13.6G disk drive which I want to set up as a dual-boot system. Once I've got Linux running, I plan to copy the Windows files from my existing drive onto the FAT32 partition of the new drive. My Windows system currently has a 3.2G disk partitioned as 2G and 1.2G (roughly). I have a lot of spare room on this so I think I can get by with a single 3G FAT32 partition on the new disk. [On reflection, this might not work as I'm still using Win95. I seem to recall this not being able to handle partitions over 2G.] If you are really running fat 32 you must have a later version W95a is restricted to fat 16 and 2.1g drives...but you can make a 2g and a one gig to get threein fact I would make two 2g fat 16 partitions and still be below the cylinder limit for lilo easy, as that occurs at near 8 gigIf that is a consideration for the version of lilo you are planning to install? W95a does like to be the first os on the disk though, you might want to install it before linux? with usr and var and all on my 2g root partition it is running 71% usage with a 6.1 mdk install, the lions share of this is usr, next time I will have them in a partition of their own . later Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] Sound in Enlightenment
On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:15:40 +0100 (BST),Paul wrote: I have not had sound running in E. yet. In KDE it goes all well, in another one there was no problem either (but what the was that one!) Paul === Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:19:49 It must be Afterstep Paul grin Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] Windows Manager
On Tue, 4 Jul 2000 03:19:01 +0800,Joe wrote: may I know why each of you like the window manager of your choice? Just to gather some points on the highpoints of each window manager. === Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:29:05 its the 4th there already? Well Joe I have a P-166 with 24m ram...Kde runs well, but I thought a slimmer package might run even better, so I searched through Ice , wmaker, FVwm etc, I don't have blkbox on this MDK 6.1 I tried enlightenment and thought it was pretty good but it caused a lot of unexplainable anomalies and when it made a segfault I scotched it for good... Then I found afterstep and the flowers started to bloom on this love affair, it has many really nice features...really good controllability with copies of the files in your home directory where you can butcher them at will, and if all goes wrong..just copy in another default file and start over. I have ver 1.8.1 that will do backgrounds in jpg, you can make multiple copies of the Wharf (dock) to put running programs and buttons to call other tricks.. it will manufacture a theme at the push of a button and make a tar.gz in your themes folder, with any setup you have rigged...it will run themes made for ver 1.7.111I have been disassembling other themes and using the partsit does transparency...makes lovely menues...you can have multiple pagers..On and on he babbles It will run KFM with all the kde file system and the kde icons and run some gnome stuff also...havent messed with that much as I like the kde stuff... I will though eventually. You can run the aterms with transparency and cut off all the frames so the writing appears to be on the background picture...of course this is bound to fatten it up ,... I will lose the very thing I chose this WM for, but it is quite fun to play with...there is a mailing list for it ,and a website with pointers to sound files themes etc... I am fixing to build a more capable computer here, but I will probably run afterstep a lot even still. Give it a roll Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] wrong extension
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:53:14 +0200, Pierre wrote: I'm trying to gunzip a .gz file and the command outputs that the file is not a gzip file ... Any idea ? thanks Pierre === Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:11:36 Yes sir Pierre, I had this problem with several tar.gz files...what I discovered,( by someone on this list telling me 8-)) is sometimes although the files are listed as .gz ...sometimes they get to you not zipped... What I did to open the files was, run xtvf instead of zxvf and if the file tested ok with this t option..I ran them with xvf and they untarred really nice. if they balk try putting "filename" quote marks ,around the whole filename...if it still don't work try changing the gz to just .tar...I thought the files were bad at first, but messing with them made them eventually work. I was doing this on an xterm command line. Good luck Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
[newbie] Off topic longest time mail reject I have ever had
Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mail Delivery System) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:53:36 +0100 (BST) I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned == Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:03:02 I Just now, received this reject, of a message I sent to newbie MDK, on the 11 may 2000...? where has this been for Thirty Eight days? ...I was trying to help Wayne, the warranty on his computer has likely expired by now? Never in five years have I had a mail lost this long..the US postal service is faster than E-mail? I did not want to send the whole reject to the list, but in the header was addresses of daemon in the UK...the MDK machine is in the UK? I thought France. sorry Wayne. some of sent message: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Down with LILO! From: "Oliver L. Plaine Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:08:11 -0500 On Thu, 11 May 2000 22:04:11 +1000, Wayne wrote: If I do this will BootMagic still boot Linux OK? (Chopped off) --- Does this happen to everyone? Olly P
Re: [newbie] Packages
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:02:50 -0400, you wrote: I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by taking everything that is offered in the install. This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux. Thanks Robert F. Trettel Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:42:19 I had the same Question Robert, all those strange names are quite meaningless unless you already have experience...I found that the descriptions in the KDE package tool are very helpful.. Click on a package name and a description shows up in the right hand panel...Providing you have a linux loaded of courseIf you have the space though ,load it all and then you can search through it and learn about it for next installation...or any thing that you don't need you can trim out... If you don't load all the development material you cannot manage to make and install some other RPM downloaded later. or do compiling and the like. the site http://mandrakeuser.org/ has been big time helpful to me. Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] X tries to start and fails
On Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:09:49 -0700 (PDT),Dacia wrote: I noticed that my system was using 247 megs of ram while it was just sitting there with nothing running so I started killing processes. This freed up about 3 Megs! Usually when my system first boots up it is using around 65-70 megs not 250! I tried disabling some of the startup services through DrakConf. I then rebooted. System boots, mounts file systems and tries to start X at this point it can't start X and the (chopped off for space) Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:35:14 Hi Dacia, I think you were trying to cure a non problem, when you shot yourself in the foot with the X malfunction. memory pages much faster than swap, so Linux uses a lot of memory for this...it can manage it very well, so having it utilized in this manner is just good practice. you were not having any problems with the system bogging down? so trying to free memory was not the thing to do. I have heard things like netscape can run away and cram the memory. But if you were not experiencing some other slowdown, I don't think a well filled memory is a real problem. I have 24m ram only, and run a full MDK 6.1...so my 24m stays full all the time and most always uses swap..and it runs well..If I had your 247m I wouldn't even bother to run "top"...8-) sorry for this opinion likely, not making you feel any better? Just remember I am a dangerous newbie and probably don't know what I am talking about. Olly P Biloxi
[newbie] Administration Question
I don't mean to be rude, but that is the worst run-on sentence I have ever encountered! I don't think that your intended receiver got what you meant clearly. = Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:19:30 No offense meant to the writer of the above, but please do not attempt to turn the list into an English course, A quantity of contributors to this list do not have english as a primary language and I would hate for anyone to feel that correct punctuation is a prerequisite to posting.' I only speak english, and I have not mastered the finer points myself, in fact effective writing is quite allusive. I do envy persons who can use different languages, as I am stuck with just one. These messages should be utilized for their Linux content only. correct punctuation is desirable but we should accept anything that is written in the manner in which it is written. Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Still having memory problems!
On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 19:40:23 -0400, Cy wrote: I've reinstalled linux I don't know how many times trying to get it to recognize all of my memmory. I've tried appending the line append="mem=256M" == Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:05:40 Straight away I will tell you Cy I am working over my head here, being a newbie myself, but I might say something that will help you anyway. You don't show how you appended the Lilo conf file exactly..but if there is another append line in there, you should add the memory append to that line and not make an additional line... then run sbin/lilo to make it permanent. You can append the memory to the lilo prompt and test it there, if it works there it should work in the conf file. also if you have one of those "high zoot" video cards that reserve a block of memory, be sure and subtract that from the amount appended. to the lilo.conf. I still can't seem to get it to recognize all of my memmory. I just don't understand. It recognizes both of my processors right off the bat. I've read that the memmory configuration is stored in /proc/meminfo. Can I manually edit this file to get Mandrake to see the rest? Not certain of this...I do not think you can edit a "proc" file because they are Pseudo files.and don't actually exist in a physical manner. Is there a configuration tool that can be used? What if I wanted to add memmory later, How would I go about it? Does it have anything to do with the size of my swap file? It's 256 meg. no the swap file would have no bearing on this problem, in fact with as much memory as you have it would probably run without any swap at all (not recommended)... I'm really pleased with all of madrake's functionality, but I'd really like to be able to utilize all of my memmory. Any help would be appreciated. Cy another possibility is the memory that you have, may work well in less demanding systems, but linux will reveal deficiencys...you might try swapping around some of the sticks to different positions? I hope you get it going OK Cy, and if I told you wrong they will be on me like a hound dog on bacon 8-) later Olly P Biloxi
Re: [[newbie] What is this message?]
On 4 Jun 00 16:47:34 EDT, Jaguar wrote: Thats ok...I keep getting Vacation replies when I post to newbie list from Dave Naylor??? whomever that is == Mon, 5 Jun 2000 12:11:52 That's easy Jag, Ole Dave turned on his auto responder to notify all his respondents that he would be partying down in Crete. Unfortunately for us he forgot to unzub from this list, now every message we write it sends us the old I'm having fun and you ain't message.I think as a penalty he should send us all tickets so we can join him in Crete.8-) This will keep on happening until Dave gets back home unless Denis pulls the plug on him? Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Sometimes...
On Sat, 3 Jun 2000 14:17:46 +0200 (CEST), Paul wrote: Hi Olly and all, I think I have figured part of this out now. PoPy... well, the Py stands for Python, a programming language. Zope must be some kind of program. And ZPoPyDA (DA - Database Adapter) is some kind of plugin for the Zope program to make it possible to access a postgresql (probably some form of SQL). And ZPoPyDA is thus written in Python. This is worrying! I think I understand this! (clipped neatly) = Sat, 3 Jun 2000 19:26:09 The probability of your explanation being absolutely correct is quite high, for alas I understand it no more than the original statement 8-) Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] What is BogoMIPS?
On Sat, 3 Jun 2000 18:16:49 +0400,Koly wrote: Hello all! What is BogoMIPS? What does the number depend upon? The reason of my interest is this: With a standart kernel (2.2.14-15mdk) my PentiumIII-500 (Katmai) (or whatever is measured with BogoMIPS) receives rating of 499 point something. When I installed the 2.3.99-pre9 kernel, the number leapfrogged to 999 point something. What's the meaning of that? Thanks, -- Koly == Sat, 3 Jun 2000 22:21:43 I don't know what it means Koly, but my P 166 with 24m ram, runs at 66.34 bogomips? comparing my numbers with yours, I am amazed that my screen even lights up. I sure hope I don't have to buy something expensive to jack up my bogomipper? Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Help!!
On Wed, 31 May 2000 00:09:21 -0400, Kenny wrote: It doesnt, the computer just hangs if you just do fdisk/mrb I've done it before as an experiment with no lilo and even before i screwed up linux i had to do that no go. Kenny = Wed, 31 May 2000 09:45:15 Well I'm sure it didn't Kenny if you really used fdisk/mrb? The correct command is, fdisk/mbr...however if you used the correct command and it did not work, I would then think that your DOS boot disc is not proper...that boot disc should contain several useful tools including drivers for your cdrom...among these tools is Fdisk.exe ..that must be there for the command fdisk/mbr to work. You should be sure and have a good boot disc, that has all the things you need for your specific system..You can find these easy by running a search for "boot disc" ..If you for instance change your CD Rom drive for a different one you need to obtain a set of "real mode drivers" that will work with the new drive, and then edit the DOS batch file on the boot disc with the little editor included in there.. If you don't have a boot disc that will work it's the same as locking your keys in the car 8-). later Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] HELP 2!!!
On Tue, 30 May 2000 10:20:58 HST,edison wrote: 2) i did not fdisk /mbr yet coz my boot disk won't work! I don't know, I created it during installation and tried booting from it, it just gives me Error 0X10. I tried viewing the file contents in Linux and the reply was 'can't read the contents of the disk'...just wondering what's wrong. I have reinstalled everything and I can boot up properly but the boot disk still does not work. And the X config and X res does not work either. = Wed, 31 May 2000 10:05:52 I appears that you do not need to do fdisk/mbr edison..If you have access to your drive now, you are fine. once you get all squared away though , try to make a linux boot disc that works...it can save you grief in the future.. It sounds above, like you were trying to use the nonworking Linux boot disc to run fdisk/mbr? you would actually want to run that from the DOS/MS windows boot disc not the Linux one...Just in case you need to ever do it in the future. Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Sometimes...
On Tue, 30 May 2000 21:43:41 +0200 (CEST), Paul wrote: Sometimes descriptions of programs really stump me... I just ran over this one: ZPoPyDA is a postgresql database adapter for Zope based on PoPy Well, Aren;t you glad you know this now? *grin* Paul Wed, 31 May 2000 10:25:29 This is a most perfect illustration that illuminates with precision what I have been saying all week Paul.. There is no way a newbie can decipher that (explanation?). If you do not know...you cannot learn.." .catch 22". I am hoping that continued exposure to the vernacular will eventually enable me to absorb some small amount, perhaps enough for a promotion to "newbie first class". 8-) olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Resizing Panels
On Tue, 30 May 2000 22:12:54 HST, you wrote: These things are just very tall that even if I hide the panel (the one that u are referring to) i still can't see the 'OK', 'Quit', 'Apply' buttons. The panel configuration u referred too works all right. edison === Wed, 31 May 2000 11:41:43 Sorry edison but I don't know enough to help you with your window problem, but I wanted to make sure you were aware that you can hold down the alt or (meta) key and click the window and you can slide it up the screen until you can see the buttons. Olly P Biloxi
[newbie] Pauls proposed website
On Tue, 30 May 2000 19:42:54 +0200 (CEST), Paul wrote: Paul who is thinking about collecting all the assistance here and putting that up on a website... = Tue, 30 May 2000 21:43:28 That is a lovely Idea Paul, it would be a perfect endeavor for you, you have a wealth of knowledge and a desire to assist us poor unfortunates.. How many times have you heard "my memory wont show up"? or please unxcroobe me"..no wait. not that one...but many repeating difficulties that us new wienies have redundantly? Finding information in the sea available has always been difficult for me..I never seem to find exactly what I want, just everything else in the world..even searching archives has not been satisfactory..maybe if someone would write it on my forehead? or put a lot of common data on a nice categorized web site. It sounds like a noble project Who knows? perhaps several years from now, I will know enough to be able to volunteer to assist you.? Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] what are all these RPMs and programs
On Mon, 29 May 2000 19:36:20 +0200 (CEST), Paul wrote: Unix also teaches you to think and consider again. rm -f does exactly that, no questions asked. Paul ~keyboard junkie~ Tue, 30 May 2000 12:04:20 Right Paul...I like that in a computer system, doing what I command without hesitation...and I am not afraid to mess with the detonator. The frustrating thing is learning how things are set up to function...Reaching randomly into the basket, trying to piece together enough data to build a knowledge comprehensive enough, to allow me to give the system intelligent commands. For instance, I spent a lot of time downloading "how to's" from various web sites , later to discover I had them here all along on my CD...Well..you never find things like that when you have no clue they are there..It is not the fault of anyone, it is just the way things are. Unfamiliarity is the driving element...I want to began at an intermediate level rather than the newbie qualification I have. I do this just for fun, it would not be fun if it were easy, therefore Linux is "The funnest damn system ever" grin. Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] Help!!
On Mon, 29 May 2000 15:45:48 HST,edison wrote: Would sincerely appreciate any help guys. Is it possible to remove the LILO from my Windows disk and setup Linux to just boot from the 'boot disk'? edison = Tue, 30 May 2000 14:28:01 Believe it or not edison, I have had the same feeling you are experiencing right now... If you wish to remove your LILO from the MBR the easiest way I know is to start the computer with a DOS/Windows boot disc and type Fdisk/mbr this will write the mbr back to a windows configuration and when you boot again it should start MS windows. good luck, you will recover Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] DISCUSSION - one of the kind
On Sat, 27 May 2000 21:31:48 -0700 (PDT), Dacia wrote: Hope this gives you some ideas Olly. You can find most all of these programs in the KDE menus. I pretty much just went down the list from applications - utilities. = Sun, 28 May 2000 07:29:38 Thanks for the response Dacia, it is interesting to me what others think about these programs and compare that to what I am finding. I too have been just going down the app list, ..problem with that is I get tied up studying a program and suddenly it is midnight. 8-) and there are so many to look through and several (like VIM) that seem to be incomprehensible? searching thru them seems to be a slow process. Alan Shoemaker suggested looking with.., Konsole, navigate to /usr/bin and begin launching. I will try that also. and the Doc reading never stops 8-). You seem to be interested in graphics.. and I feel the same about the GIMP...there is a newly posted book called "Grokking the GIMP-v1.0".It is nicely done and the 30M download file will be a snap with your fast connection...I brought it in on a 26.400 ( took over three hours) If you can't find it post back ..I have the info up in linux, I can't access it from this W95..(no linux modem..I gotta get organized.grin..). Thanks again for your efforts Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] what are all these RPMs and programs
On Sat, 27 May 2000 18:32:42 -0700, Alan S wrote: Oliveropen Konsole, navigate to /usr/bin and begin launching. --- Oliverone more thing. Navigate to /usr/doc and start reading. == Sun, 28 May 2000 08:12:06 Yeppers Alan, the reading never stops..it's like bailing the Titanic with a teacup, with this much material. 8-) " easy way Olly" is just looking for the easiest way. 8-). Thanks for the pointers Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Is DrakX really real or do I have a poor video card?
On Sun, 28 May 2000 01:01:18 -0500,Aaron wrote: I went through setup again and I got a couple linux penguin images this time but I still didn't get the fancy gui pictured in the manual. === Sun, 28 May 2000 11:21:48 If you can see the Penguin Aaron, login with your password and it should have something that looks like$...type in "startx" without the quote marks, and your fancy gui will appear in about 40 seconds...give it time. Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] what are all these RPMs and programs
On Sun, 28 May 2000 09:23:12 +0200 (CEST), Paul wrote: Run GnoRPM or Kpackage. You will find a nice tree-structure on the left. Click around a bit and on the right you will see a description of the purpose of the program. Including an uninstall button at your service, so if you don't like the program you can whop it away then and there. Sun, 28 May 2000 11:07:10 Thanks Paul. I didn't know about the description there. that helps. I wholeheartedly agree with you on reading the manual...It is just a superlarge project for someone without the proper background...everything seems to be double coded 8-). unfamiliar terminology linked with unfamiliar code in a montage without any edges to grasp onto. thanks Olly P Biloxi
[newbie] what are all these RPMs and programs
what is in it? Sat, 27 May 2000 10:07:33 How did all of you solve this problem when you were a newbie? I have hundreds of unknown to me programs on this Mandrake...I discover what they do by accident. Is there a listing of programs and RPM's decoded into something that will enable me to determine the purpose? or do I have to search them out one by one, only to discover that the program is not something I have a use for? I just found one that calculates "molecular weights"..I am sure it is an excellent program, but I am also sure there are many here that I could get more use from., if I only knew about them? To me it appears that program names and RPM listings are cryptic, the name SAMBA does not explain muchelectric eyes? blue fish?...where is it explained?. thank you Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] DISCUSSION - one of the kind
On Sat, 27 May 2000 00:07:55 -0700 (PDT),Dacia wrote: If you want I will give you a (reasonably) comprehensive list of the programs that were absolutely essential to me during my migration to mandrake. I would be happy to do that. Sat, 27 May 2000 11:08:32 Dacia, I would be interested in your perspective on that, as I am presently searching through the vast offerings in Mandrake looking for programs to adapt to my use. Please post them if it is not too laborious..after all it is saturday 8-) Thank you Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Rumors??
On Tue, 23 May 2000 15:20:31 -0400, Vern wrote: :~collective butts?? :~vern == Tue, 23 May 2000 20:55:49 Say Vern, when you burn a copy of the new MS/BSD beta "Reno"...I sure would like to have it also. Your buddy Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] High failure rate tar.gz
On Thu, 18 May 2000 10:48:58 -0400, Ron wrote: I have had the same problem if you dwonloaded them with netscape try to tar xvf without the z this has worked for me in the past == Thu, 18 May 2000 20:54:47 Thanks John..Alex...and Ron..for taking the time to help I ran the trick without the z and I renamed the file from tar.gz to .html , I am not sure which did it, but I opened midnight commander and noticed a folder had been created...one of the two procedures worked. The grokking the gimp book opens nicely and is quite a good piece of work, I can't wait to read it through. This 29+meg file was the one I was worried about as another three hour download was not a pleasant thought 8-). I will try the smaller files tomorrow. thanks again for the pointers, as always I learned something new. Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] High failure rate tar.gz
On Thu, 18 May 2000 05:47:54 -0400, Alex wrote: [olly@localhost Lintech]$ tar -tf Grokking-the-GIMP-v1_0_tar.gz Did you download this file under windows? Thu, 18 May 2000 10:46:04 Yes Alex, I have only a winmodem to access my slow (max 26-4) connection...I downloaded the files in MS explorer and sucked them up into Linux through the VFAT hole. first generation W95 with fat16.. Your question indicates to me that this procedure would introduce errors to the downloaded file? is this a common malady? is there any way I can repair the breakage or force it to decode even if it has errors in the format? thank you for answering Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] Down with LILO!
On Thu, 11 May 2000 22:04:11 +1000, Wayne wrote: If I do this will BootMagic still boot Linux OK? I thought LILO was the program required to actually boot linux and if I do this won't it stop Boot Manager picking up that Linux is installed? - Thu, 11 May 2000 12:00:51 I don't think the part that is in the Mbr Is the whole LILO Wayne, just a portion that cascades up to the real file...just like the vimliniz in boot is not the whole kernel. This is only a country boy concept derived during my never ending quest for information..I have never actually disassembled these files..8-) Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] Mouse Scrolling?
On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:57:06 -0800, you wrote: If you don't mind me asking, which Logitech mouse are you using? I've got a Trackman marble that works great under Windows, yet I haven't understood the instructions for getting it to work under imwheel. I haven't given it a lot of time, but it would be nice to get it working. Thanks, Michael Holt - Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:30:48 My trackman Logitec marble works fine using the generic ps2 3 button mouse selection in Mandrake 6.1...the acceleration and threshold settings will tune its speed from KDE. it functions the same as in W95. Olly P
Re: [newbie] Large Disk (14G) on a P166
On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:22:06 -0600, Jeremy wrote: If that works for you, you got it easy. -- Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:54:40 Well Jeremy, it wasn't that easy grin, but it is working really fine.. I did not intend to put any money into this old P-166..it has the antique BIOS dated DEC 1995...I was warned off of the overlay programs by good people on the Packard Bell newsgroup.. I did not want to put a bullet in the brain of this old computer with a BIOS flash gone bad When I installed the 13gig WD it showed as a 2Gig. I just installed W95a with the PB recovery floppy that fdisk two gig fat 16...as far as the bios was concerned that was a full load... Then I installed MDK Helios 6.1 using the expert mode which lets you partition manually with Linux Fdisk.no disc dude or any of that automatic stuff...I just put hda2 as an extended partition all the way to the end of the 13 Gigs and started the logicals with boot first and sectioned them on out, made my swap and native and loaded the mandrake. I did scotch my partition table with a dumb move I will not expound upon g..as I was trying to partition Linux .and I was locked out of a brand new unbootable disc, with a 95a system that I had just put many hours intofortunately I had been looking around with FIPS 2.0 prior to that and had made a backup file on the FIPS floppy...I did not use it for any thing else...so I ran the FIPS recovery file and it reconstituted my W95 table and luckily nothing was harmedthe second attempt at loading the mandrake went like a charm...and I have unbelievable room..smile. Olly P Biloxi Mississippi.
[newbie] Wrong charset
Sun, 19 Mar 2000 13:35:27 After logging out of KDE on my Mandrake 6.1 Helios 2-2-13-7 MDK, I see several lines of "wrong charset installed"but the Mandrake does not tell me what charset it is hungry for.. The print seems to look ok to me on all the screens and I have never changed anything except the size?..it has complained this way since installation on Valentines day .. I have tried switching the selections in Kde just now,, but obviously it needs more? Is this something extra I must obtain? or a file lurking on a CD someplace? This system has multitudes of programs in it that I do not have a clue on operating,, or even what they are supposed to do...has anyone found a website where someone has written about all the "gee whizzy" things they have discovered in here? I envy the fast burners like Lane who,(Judging by his posts) in the past couple of weeks has disassembled every program on his computer...while I am sitting here playing.. MaJong.,G. Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] Large Disk (14G) on a P166
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 23:09:43 -0600, you wrote: ujeevan wrote: HELP ME PLEASE !!! my friend has a 14g HD (FUJITSU) and he is trying to install Mandrake 7 on his computer. we tried to boot the computer with 14G, but the computer just hung. The HD has option to use only 2GB so that the old computer can use the drive, but i want to set it up so that he could use whole 14G. Please help me... Thanks in advance!!! Sujeevan R Toronto, Ontario Canada. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Sat, 18 Mar 2000 04:30:54 I assume you are using W95a on a first generation Pentium here( as you gave very little info) if this is true you can use your drive... I just went through this with a 13 Gig WD new hard drive...the only thing that is limited to 2gig is the fat 16 file system that W95a must use.I did not want to update to a newer ms windows system, or use that overlay program that always makes trouble and I did not want to upgrade flash my Bios in this old p-166 I installed windows 95a as usual and partitioned the rest of the drive for Linuxit works really well as linux does not use bios calls to access the disc like w95a does. the only thing you must do is to put your boot partition below the 1024 cylinder limit so LILO can boot the kernelif you use one 2gig fat 16 partition for windows and start your linux from there you will have no problem with that my W95 works just as it did on my old two gig drive, but now I have a full MDK 6.1 helios system with more room than I will ever need... dual booting with LILO in the MBR...It works great and I have the whole 13gigs with no problem. if you need the gritty details, post back and I will be happy to help you. Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
[newbie] Mandrake 6.1 sent me a mail
Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:33:21 My MD "Helios" 2-2-13-7mdk, has sent me an E-mail saying "errors occurred while rotating logs"...? "/var/mysql.log failed" ..."no such file or directory" what is a MYSQL log ? (it sounds painful). I ran man mysql and it refers to some obscure data base? I ran info mysql and it gives the identical cryptic explanation. I ran tree /var | less It showed 248 directories and 269 files, but the linux is still hungry for mysql? They will not come out and say what exactly this log does, but I am not using any networking , internet, or off site modem usage in Linux. If this is pertinent to one of these unused systems I will ignore it... If it is the master list for some important brain activity I want to correct it.. Will some one tell me the importance of the MYSQL log? thank you Olly P
Re: [newbie] Sound Blaster Compatible soundcards
On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:51:09 +0200, you wrote: After trying to configure my Aztech soundcard , I noticed that it is not supported. Do "Sound Blaster 100% Compatible" soundcards work in Linux - or does it got to be a real Sound Blaster ? Thanx in advance, Osmo - Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:33:16 Hi Osmoyou don't give me very much to go on here, but I configured my Packard Bell Aztec sound card using the "soundblaster 16" drivers from Mandrake 6.1,...It works quite nicely after I fumbled around with the settings in sound config until all of the conflicts were satisfied... I have no Idea exactly what you are working with as you did not tell me, but if that is it,, the "soundblaster 16" is the one that works...there is another soundblaster in there but that will only play "hello" at the testthe test should say " hello this is linus Torvolds...etc etc. if you get this to play on the test you are good to go. Olly P.
Re: [newbie] Permissions to /mnt
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:01:38 -0700,Chuck said to Steve You will of course let the list know how you solve this (thinking optimistically I am). Actually I'm shocked that more users don't seem to have the need to write to vfat partitions! Good luck Steve. On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, you wrote: I've been using LinuxConfto set my fstab file up. It all mounts, without problems. Even got the CD-burner to mount after working out it was sr0. Trouble is, only root has write permissions to everything. 'steve' only has read permissions to the vfat mounted partitons. I think I can get around this buy mounting them with uid=500 and gid=500 in the mount options in -- Fri, 18 Feb 2000 03:32:22 If I don't really understand the question, forgive me guys, but I just set my Mandrake 6.1 to Both read and write to Vfat W95a partition and it will write to MS windows as $ user As Chuck hinted, I had a need to transfer files both ways as I have no suitable Modem for Linux and must do all my online projects in W95a for now... None of the procedures that I found on the "how to's" or websites seemed to work at all...so I took a procedure for mounting a CD ROM and country boy hacked it for my purposes. #mkdir /mnt/vfat #chmod 777 /mnt/vfat #pico /etc/fstab add a line in /etc/fstab (I used the stuff that was already there as a sort of guide) /dev/hda1/mnt/vfat user,noauto0 0 choose write and exit...pico will ask for a file name...dont try to manufacture one...instead choose list...it will show a list...select from that and it will write about a dozen lines.. From there I went to startx as $ user and hit the Icon and for the first time I got my windows system W95a.I transferred several meg of files up to Linux and wrote a few back as a test..it worked flawlessly... also the hda1 2gW95 drive started showing up in df with a line of data like the Linux drives do. Disclaimer:;;; I gave no thought to security here as my box does not reach outside lines and I am the only operatorit seems like it could be a breach to set permissions like this? If I did not understand the question, and this is a simplistic answer I apologize...I have only been a Linux expert for two days..G Later Olly P.
