[newbie] CDROM no longer working
Yesterday I noticed I could not access packages on CD1 while in konsole doing urpmi. This is a new problem. I put the CD in, heard the whirring, but as soon as I pressed 'enter' it stopped. Didn't get any message I think. In Konqueror - attempted to mount a CD to look at photos (which I've been able to do previously). The message I get is: mount: mount point /mnt/cdrom does not exist. Please check that the disk is entered correctly. The file or folder /mnt/cdrom does not exist. This may relate to the other problems I am having. Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM no longer working
On Monday 28 Mar 2005 20:43, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Yesterday I noticed I could not access packages on CD1 while in konsole doing urpmi. This is a new problem. I put the CD in, heard the whirring, but as soon as I pressed 'enter' it stopped. Didn't get any message I think. In Konqueror - attempted to mount a CD to look at photos (which I've been able to do previously). The message I get is: mount: mount point /mnt/cdrom does not exist. Please check that the disk is entered correctly. The file or folder /mnt/cdrom does not exist. you could try changing that to cdrom1 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Mandrake 10.1 Microsoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM no longer working
On Monday 28 March 2005 07:43 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: This may relate to the other problems I am having. ~ maybe, if the 'learning curve' seems a bit steep . . . you might consider running a system entirely off CD . . . someone recently had good experience with 'Feather Linux' best rgds ___ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM no longer working
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Yesterday I noticed I could not access packages on CD1 while in konsole doing urpmi. This is a new problem. I put the CD in, heard the whirring, but as soon as I pressed 'enter' it stopped. Didn't get any message I think. In Konqueror - attempted to mount a CD to look at photos (which I've been able to do previously). The message I get is: mount: mount point /mnt/cdrom does not exist. Please check that the disk is entered correctly. The file or folder /mnt/cdrom does not exist. This may relate to the other problems I am having. Rosemary Easy fix. As root, run mkdir /mnt/cdrom. All will be good. I broke this when I had you change how /dev/hda6 got mounted. It may have broke a couple of other things. The reasion is that the mount points for other things must have been created after hda6 was mounted on /mnt. With /dev/hda6 no longer mounted there, then mount point is missing. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM no longer working
On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 08:29, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Yesterday I noticed I could not access packages on CD1 while in konsole doing urpmi. This is a new problem. I put the CD in, heard the whirring, but as soon as I pressed 'enter' it stopped. Didn't get any message I think. In Konqueror - attempted to mount a CD to look at photos (which I've been able to do previously). The message I get is: mount: mount point /mnt/cdrom does not exist. Please check that the disk is entered correctly. The file or folder /mnt/cdrom does not exist. This may relate to the other problems I am having. Rosemary Easy fix. As root, run mkdir /mnt/cdrom. All will be good. I broke this when I had you change how /dev/hda6 got mounted. It may have broke a couple of other things. The reasion is that the mount points for other things must have been created after hda6 was mounted on /mnt. With /dev/hda6 no longer mounted there, then mount point is missing. Mikkel Yes _ I thought it related to that fix. Thanks Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM no longer working
On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 08:29, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Yesterday I noticed I could not access packages on CD1 while in konsole doing urpmi. This is a new problem. I put the CD in, heard the whirring, but as soon as I pressed 'enter' it stopped. Didn't get any message I think. In Konqueror - attempted to mount a CD to look at photos (which I've been able to do previously). The message I get is: mount: mount point /mnt/cdrom does not exist. Please check that the disk is entered correctly. The file or folder /mnt/cdrom does not exist. This may relate to the other problems I am having. Rosemary Easy fix. As root, run mkdir /mnt/cdrom. All will be good. I broke this when I had you change how /dev/hda6 got mounted. It may have broke a couple of other things. The reasion is that the mount points for other things must have been created after hda6 was mounted on /mnt. With /dev/hda6 no longer mounted there, then mount point is missing. Mikkel Fixed now. I can mount CDs and see photos, and play music. Yes - I have sound. Thanks Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM no longer working
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 08:29, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Easy fix. As root, run mkdir /mnt/cdrom. All will be good. I broke this when I had you change how /dev/hda6 got mounted. It may have broke a couple of other things. The reasion is that the mount points for other things must have been created after hda6 was mounted on /mnt. With /dev/hda6 no longer mounted there, then mount point is missing. Mikkel Fixed now. I can mount CDs and see photos, and play music. Yes - I have sound. Thanks Rosemary Life is good. I guess you are not using ALSO for your sound. This makes me wonder why it was trying to start. I guess it could be that the last time you ran harddrake it changed something in the sound config, so that ALSO was not handling the sound drivers any more, but left it still trying to run. Not a good thing. Is you are fealing brave, you could try plugging in your USB card reader, and seeing if it works now. It wouldn't susprise me if it did. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM no longer working
On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 09:39, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 08:29, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Easy fix. As root, run mkdir /mnt/cdrom. All will be good. I broke this when I had you change how /dev/hda6 got mounted. It may have broke a couple of other things. The reasion is that the mount points for other things must have been created after hda6 was mounted on /mnt. With /dev/hda6 no longer mounted there, then mount point is missing. Mikkel Fixed now. I can mount CDs and see photos, and play music. Yes - I have sound. Thanks Rosemary Life is good. I guess you are not using ALSO for your sound. This makes me wonder why it was trying to start. I guess it could be that the last time you ran harddrake it changed something in the sound config, so that ALSO was not handling the sound drivers any more, but left it still trying to run. Not a good thing. Is you are fealing brave, you could try plugging in your USB card reader, and seeing if it works now. It wouldn't susprise me if it did. Mikkel Not sure what to expect as have only used it in Windows where a dialogue window comes up with options (once it is plugged in with card in), and the green light on the card reader flashes when the photos are being uploaded. I went into gwenview to see if I could see anything - couldn't, but my process could be incorrect. Don't know if this helps or not [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$ cat sysconfig/hotplug # This file contains defaults for hotplug # # HOTPLUG_RC_$SUBSYSTEM controls whether subsystem is started by # hotplug rc script (cold plugging) # # SUBSYSTEM currently is usb, input, ieee1394, scsi. HOTPLUG_RC_usb=yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$ I may just need to learn to mount it? Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM no longer working
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 09:39, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 08:29, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Easy fix. As root, run mkdir /mnt/cdrom. All will be good. I broke this when I had you change how /dev/hda6 got mounted. It may have broke a couple of other things. The reasion is that the mount points for other things must have been created after hda6 was mounted on /mnt. With /dev/hda6 no longer mounted there, then mount point is missing. Mikkel Fixed now. I can mount CDs and see photos, and play music. Yes - I have sound. Thanks Rosemary Life is good. I guess you are not using ALSO for your sound. This makes me wonder why it was trying to start. I guess it could be that the last time you ran harddrake it changed something in the sound config, so that ALSO was not handling the sound drivers any more, but left it still trying to run. Not a good thing. Is you are fealing brave, you could try plugging in your USB card reader, and seeing if it works now. It wouldn't susprise me if it did. Mikkel Not sure what to expect as have only used it in Windows where a dialogue window comes up with options (once it is plugged in with card in), and the green light on the card reader flashes when the photos are being uploaded. I went into gwenview to see if I could see anything - couldn't, but my process could be incorrect. Don't know if this helps or not [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$ cat sysconfig/hotplug # This file contains defaults for hotplug # # HOTPLUG_RC_$SUBSYSTEM controls whether subsystem is started by # hotplug rc script (cold plugging) # # SUBSYSTEM currently is usb, input, ieee1394, scsi. HOTPLUG_RC_usb=yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$ I may just need to learn to mount it? Rosemary Well, if you are running KDE, you should get a new desktop icon when you plug it in. From the CLI, there should be ether /mnt/removable or /mnt/camera with the device already mounted on it. If not, you could try: mkdir /mnt/camera mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera If that does not work, then run usbview and see if it is being detected... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM no longer working
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 09:39, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 08:29, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Easy fix. As root, run mkdir /mnt/cdrom. All will be good. I broke this when I had you change how /dev/hda6 got mounted. It may have broke a couple of other things. The reasion is that the mount points for other things must have been created after hda6 was mounted on /mnt. With /dev/hda6 no longer mounted there, then mount point is missing. Mikkel Fixed now. I can mount CDs and see photos, and play music. Yes - I have sound. Thanks Rosemary Life is good. I guess you are not using ALSO for your sound. This makes me wonder why it was trying to start. I guess it could be that the last time you ran harddrake it changed something in the sound config, so that ALSO was not handling the sound drivers any more, but left it still trying to run. Not a good thing. Is you are fealing brave, you could try plugging in your USB card reader, and seeing if it works now. It wouldn't susprise me if it did. Mikkel Not sure what to expect as have only used it in Windows where a dialogue window comes up with options (once it is plugged in with card in), and the green light on the card reader flashes when the photos are being uploaded. I went into gwenview to see if I could see anything - couldn't, but my process could be incorrect. Don't know if this helps or not [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$ cat sysconfig/hotplug # This file contains defaults for hotplug # # HOTPLUG_RC_$SUBSYSTEM controls whether subsystem is started by # hotplug rc script (cold plugging) # # SUBSYSTEM currently is usb, input, ieee1394, scsi. HOTPLUG_RC_usb=yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$ I may just need to learn to mount it? Rosemary Well, if you are running KDE, you should get a new desktop icon when you plug it in. From the CLI, there should be ether /mnt/removable or /mnt/camera with the device already mounted on it. If not, you could try: mkdir /mnt/camera mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera If that does not work, then run usbview and see if it is being detected... Mikkel Don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but make sure the camera is in 'Play' mode as well. That was my problem and as soon as I flipped the 'Play' switch, FLPhoto plopped an icon on the desktop and Digikam and GwenView were happy little campers. Sometimes it's the simple things that make all the difference. Good Luck Rosemary! HTH's. -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM no longer working
On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 11:01, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 09:39, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 08:29, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Easy fix. As root, run mkdir /mnt/cdrom. All will be good. I broke this when I had you change how /dev/hda6 got mounted. It may have broke a couple of other things. The reasion is that the mount points for other things must have been created after hda6 was mounted on /mnt. With /dev/hda6 no longer mounted there, then mount point is missing. Mikkel Fixed now. I can mount CDs and see photos, and play music. Yes - I have sound. Thanks Rosemary Life is good. I guess you are not using ALSO for your sound. This makes me wonder why it was trying to start. I guess it could be that the last time you ran harddrake it changed something in the sound config, so that ALSO was not handling the sound drivers any more, but left it still trying to run. Not a good thing. Is you are fealing brave, you could try plugging in your USB card reader, and seeing if it works now. It wouldn't susprise me if it did. Mikkel Not sure what to expect as have only used it in Windows where a dialogue window comes up with options (once it is plugged in with card in), and the green light on the card reader flashes when the photos are being uploaded. I went into gwenview to see if I could see anything - couldn't, but my process could be incorrect. Don't know if this helps or not [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$ cat sysconfig/hotplug # This file contains defaults for hotplug # # HOTPLUG_RC_$SUBSYSTEM controls whether subsystem is started by # hotplug rc script (cold plugging) # # SUBSYSTEM currently is usb, input, ieee1394, scsi. HOTPLUG_RC_usb=yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$ I may just need to learn to mount it? Rosemary Well, if you are running KDE, you should get a new desktop icon when you plug it in. From the CLI, there should be ether /mnt/removable or /mnt/camera with the device already mounted on it. If not, you could try: No desktop icon. mkdir /mnt/camera mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera At the line beginning 'mount' I get mount special device /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera does not exist, can't find /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab. If that does not work, then run usbview and see if it is being detected... Installed and started usbviewer - it simply gives me a window with a list of host controller entries. Mikkel Now that I can boot back into linux I can wait for this, as can do my photos in windows for now. I imagine that installing 10.2 will get rid of a few problems... Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM no longer working
On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 11:14, Mr. Geek wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 09:39, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 08:29, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Easy fix. As root, run mkdir /mnt/cdrom. All will be good. I broke this when I had you change how /dev/hda6 got mounted. It may have broke a couple of other things. The reasion is that the mount points for other things must have been created after hda6 was mounted on /mnt. With /dev/hda6 no longer mounted there, then mount point is missing. Mikkel Fixed now. I can mount CDs and see photos, and play music. Yes - I have sound. Thanks Rosemary Life is good. I guess you are not using ALSO for your sound. This makes me wonder why it was trying to start. I guess it could be that the last time you ran harddrake it changed something in the sound config, so that ALSO was not handling the sound drivers any more, but left it still trying to run. Not a good thing. Is you are fealing brave, you could try plugging in your USB card reader, and seeing if it works now. It wouldn't susprise me if it did. Mikkel Not sure what to expect as have only used it in Windows where a dialogue window comes up with options (once it is plugged in with card in), and the green light on the card reader flashes when the photos are being uploaded. I went into gwenview to see if I could see anything - couldn't, but my process could be incorrect. Don't know if this helps or not [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$ cat sysconfig/hotplug # This file contains defaults for hotplug # # HOTPLUG_RC_$SUBSYSTEM controls whether subsystem is started by # hotplug rc script (cold plugging) # # SUBSYSTEM currently is usb, input, ieee1394, scsi. HOTPLUG_RC_usb=yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$ I may just need to learn to mount it? Rosemary Well, if you are running KDE, you should get a new desktop icon when you plug it in. From the CLI, there should be ether /mnt/removable or /mnt/camera with the device already mounted on it. If not, you could try: mkdir /mnt/camera mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera If that does not work, then run usbview and see if it is being detected... Mikkel Don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but make sure the camera is in 'Play' mode as well. That was my problem and as soon as I flipped the 'Play' switch, FLPhoto plopped an icon on the desktop and Digikam and GwenView were happy little campers. Sometimes it's the simple things that make all the difference. Good Luck Rosemary! HTH's. If only ... I'd been to a page of johnwyles and he gave this suggestion too. Unfortunately no such luck for me. Now trying with a card reader, but as you might have seen my system is a mess! Waiting for 10.2 to be available next month and that a new install will sort some things out for me. Thanks Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM no longer working
On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 13:33, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 11:01, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 09:39, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 08:29, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Easy fix. As root, run mkdir /mnt/cdrom. All will be good. I broke this when I had you change how /dev/hda6 got mounted. It may have broke a couple of other things. The reasion is that the mount points for other things must have been created after hda6 was mounted on /mnt. With /dev/hda6 no longer mounted there, then mount point is missing. Mikkel Fixed now. I can mount CDs and see photos, and play music. Yes - I have sound. Thanks Rosemary Life is good. I guess you are not using ALSO for your sound. This makes me wonder why it was trying to start. I guess it could be that the last time you ran harddrake it changed something in the sound config, so that ALSO was not handling the sound drivers any more, but left it still trying to run. Not a good thing. Is you are fealing brave, you could try plugging in your USB card reader, and seeing if it works now. It wouldn't susprise me if it did. Mikkel Not sure what to expect as have only used it in Windows where a dialogue window comes up with options (once it is plugged in with card in), and the green light on the card reader flashes when the photos are being uploaded. I went into gwenview to see if I could see anything - couldn't, but my process could be incorrect. Don't know if this helps or not [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$ cat sysconfig/hotplug # This file contains defaults for hotplug # # HOTPLUG_RC_$SUBSYSTEM controls whether subsystem is started by # hotplug rc script (cold plugging) # # SUBSYSTEM currently is usb, input, ieee1394, scsi. HOTPLUG_RC_usb=yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$ I may just need to learn to mount it? Rosemary Well, if you are running KDE, you should get a new desktop icon when you plug it in. From the CLI, there should be ether /mnt/removable or /mnt/camera with the device already mounted on it. If not, you could try: No desktop icon. mkdir /mnt/camera mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera At the line beginning 'mount' I get mount special device /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera does not exist, can't find /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab. If that does not work, then run usbview and see if it is being detected... Installed and started usbviewer - it simply gives me a window with a list of host controller entries. Mikkel Now that I can boot back into linux I can wait for this, as can do my photos in windows for now. I imagine that installing 10.2 will get rid of a few problems... Rosemary Just in case you need/want it this is fstab [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$ cat fstab /dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec,users 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-15,ro 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 /data ext3 defaults 1 2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom busy....not umounting
On Sunday 31 October 2004 01:34 pm, Bill Winegarden wrote: Hi, I'm running LM10 Community on an Inspiron 9100. A fresh install is working 98%. However, the cdrom does not seem to want to let go of any cdrom once I view it's contents in Konq. As root, I get the error Does 'eject /dev/hdc' get the CD out? umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy This is the problem It seems that supermount may not be operating correctly. fstab follows /dev/hda5 / reiserfs notail,noatime 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto ~~ umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 /dev/hda2 /mnt/win_c ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 /dev/hda7 /mnt/win_d vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 Does anything seem out of place? tia, Bill W. Did you try exiting from all konqueror instances first? You're _not_ using supermount. 'auto' in your fstab for this device means auto file system detection, not auto mount. Somethin is holding on to the device. Run 'lsof /mnt/cdrom' to find out. (You might have to 'urpmi lsof' first). If lsof just returns to a prompt, nothin is using /mnt/cdrom at that time. FWIW, I don't remember when 'magicdev' began, or whether 10.0 used it. See if '/usr/bin/magicdev' is present by running 'which magicdev'. I've had some intermittent problems with CD drives being 'busy', usually after somethin like ripping a DVD with dvd:rip. 'fam' (an xinitd process) is most often the culprit. Since it's not a separate service, you'll need to kill it's pid. It will still run again 'on request'. I hate to say it, but sometimes only a reboot will free the CD drive. Magic device in 10.1 is better, but still has occasional glitches like yours. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] cdrom busy....not umounting
Hi, I'm running LM10 Community on an Inspiron 9100. A fresh install is working 98%. However, the cdrom does not seem to want to let go of any cdrom once I view it's contents in Konq. As root, I get the error umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy It seems that supermount may not be operating correctly. fstab follows /dev/hda5 / reiserfs notail,noatime 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 /dev/hda2 /mnt/win_c ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 /dev/hda7 /mnt/win_d vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 Does anything seem out of place? tia, Bill W. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom busy....not umounting
On Sunday 31 October 2004 20:34, Bill Winegarden wrote: Hi, I'm running LM10 Community on an Inspiron 9100. A fresh install is working 98%. However, the cdrom does not seem to want to let go of any cdrom once I view it's contents in Konq. As root, I get the error umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy It seems that supermount may not be operating correctly. fstab follows /dev/hda5 / reiserfs notail,noatime 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 /dev/hda2 /mnt/win_c ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 /dev/hda7 /mnt/win_d vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 Does anything seem out of place? tia, Bill W. Close konq and it'll prolly unmount. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom busy....not umounting
On Sunday 31 October 2004 20:34, Bill Winegarden wrote: Hi, I'm running LM10 Community on an Inspiron 9100. A fresh install is working 98%. However, the cdrom does not seem to want to let go of any cdrom once I view it's contents in Konq. As root, I get the error umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy It seems that supermount may not be operating correctly. fstab follows /dev/hda5 / reiserfs notail,noatime 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 /dev/hda2 /mnt/win_c ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 /dev/hda7 /mnt/win_d vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 Does anything seem out of place? I vaguely remember the problem. What does eject cdrom (as root) give you ? You fstab looks fine to me. But recently I had a mount problem, found something on the net and removed the noatime. Worked fine since then. Theoretically the noatime option should improve speed and I/O operations, since access time stamps are seldom needed, but I can't see any difference. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom busy....not umounting
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Sunday 31 October 2004 20:34, Bill Winegarden wrote: Hi, I'm running LM10 Community on an Inspiron 9100. A fresh install is working 98%. However, the cdrom does not seem to want to let go of any cdrom once I view it's contents in Konq. As root, I get the error umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy It seems that supermount may not be operating correctly. fstab follows /dev/hda5 / reiserfs notail,noatime 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 /dev/hda2 /mnt/win_c ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 /dev/hda7 /mnt/win_d vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 Does anything seem out of place? I vaguely remember the problem. What does eject cdrom (as root) give you ? You fstab looks fine to me. But recently I had a mount problem, found something on the net and removed the noatime. Worked fine since then. Theoretically the noatime option should improve speed and I/O operations, since access time stamps are seldom needed, but I can't see any difference. HTH Kaj Haulrich. lsof /dev/hdc will tell you what is holding onto the device and more than likely it will be fam kill it and you will get back control of you CDROM I have disabled fam on my systems, because it oversteps the mark. Charlie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom
On Thursday 13 May 2004 05:21 pm, John wrote: Thanks Tom and Derek for your replies. Haven't been able to connect to the internet to check mail until today. Had to borrow a connection. Followed your advice in first email,tom, and cd works. Great! Have to get modem up now. It is a conexant/riptide modem and sound system. Linuxant put out drivers for modem and sound card for 9.1,9.2 and everything worked fine. When I upgraded nothing worked even after installing the new driver. Have requested help from linuxant but if anybody has any ideas, I would appreciate help on getting connected first and then the sound. I also have a us robotics usb modem if that would be better to use. I may need to replace the sound card also to avoid future problems. Anyway thanks for all the help. John Just so you'll know I'm not avoiding you, I've never used a winmodem or one that needs a driver. Sorry, can't help. I'd suggest you close this thread and start a new one appropriately titled to the problem. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] cdrom
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Brinkman
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 11:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] cdrom
On Sunday 09 May 2004 12:50 pm, John wrote:
Mdk 10.0 now uses magicdev instead of supermount for cdroms
Check you have the magicdev package installed, and the line
for your cdrom in /etc/fstab should look something like this
/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto
umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec
0 0
Also in 10.0 the 2.6 kernel no longer needs to use ide-scsi
in order to write CD-RW so in your /etc/lilo -v file remove
any reference to ide-scsi in the append line and then run
lilo -v to write the boot sector.
derek
Removing references in modprobe.conf and modprobe.preload
for ide-scsi is also neccessary. Consider this advice
temporary as Mandrake (current 10.1 devel) is goin back to
ide-scsi for IDE CD devices. Early 10.1 (2.6.5 or .6 kernel)
is already back to it.
Contrary to the questionable Mandrake move, this 'last
minute' change to magicdev for 10.0, I'd suggest doin a urpme
on it an then runnin 'supermount -i enable' 'mount -a'
Supermount is mature, magicdev is alpha, and has known
problems. I find supermount-ng as implemented in current 2.6.x
kernels to be flawless.
Another mistaken Mandrake move, but can easily be turned off
or removed is tmdns.
John, check that 'll /dev/hd*' return drives numbers
suitable for your CD drives(s). Make sure fstab also reflects
the correct device, ie, hd*, not scd*. Check /etc/ modprobe*
files to be certain they don't call ide-scsi or scsi host
adaptor. I'm sort'a thinkin your fstab (Mandrake bug) doesn't
accurately reflect the device connotations. If my advice
doesn't work for you post the results of
- 'll /dev/hd*' and also /dev/scd*
- Your /etc/fstab file.
- 'cdrecord -scanbus' and 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus'
- Your modprobe* files
Come to think of it, post your kernel version ('uname -r')
and the above to the list before makin any changes.
Tom
-Kernel version=2.6.3-7mdk
IIRC, that kernel uses ATA, and not ide-scsi. Newer kernels
do use ide-scsi (later 2.6.5 and now all 2.6.6)
-Fstab:/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
- None /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
-/dev/hda6/home ext3 defaults 1 2
- /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask =o,user,iocharset=iso8859-
1,codepage=850,ro,exec 00
You don't have supermount for your cd drive. If you want
it, just run 'supermount -i enable' It knows when and when not
to mount CD media. Make sure your cd drive is in fact the
primary drive on the 2nd ide channel (hdc).
-none /mnt/floppy supermount
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=
850,uma sk=0 0 0
-none /proc proc defaults 00
-/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
-modprobe: -options i810fb xres=800 hsync1=32 hsync2=48
vsync1=50 vsync2=70 vram=2 bpp=16 accel=1 mtrr=1
-install scsi_hostadapter ; /bin/true
^^
-install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe usb-uhci;
/bin/true
Remove or comment out (#) all ide-scsi and scsi_hostadapter
references in modprobe.conf and modprobe.preload. Might as well
take any out of modules.conf, even tho your 2.6 kernel doesn't
use it. Back up any files you make changes to before you edit
them. You might just need 'em later if you install a newer
kernel.
The cdrecord -scanbus produced a long file. Included was:
You need to use 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus'
After making all the changes above, it'd probly be easiest
just to reboot. Your cd drive should then be working properly.
--
Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas
Proud to be an American
Thanks Tom and Derek for your replies. Haven't been able to connect to
the internet to check mail until today. Had to borrow a connection.
Followed your advice in first email,tom, and cd works. Have to get
modem up now. It is a conexant/riptide modem and sound system.
Linuxant put out drivers for modem and sound card for 9.1,9.2 and
everything worked fine. When I upgraded nothing worked even after
installing the new driver. Have requested help from linuxant but if
anybody has any ideas, I would appreciate help on getting connected
first and then the sound. I also have a us robotics usb modem if that
would be better to use. I may need to replace the sound card also to
avoid future problems. Anyway thanks for all the help.
John
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Re: [newbie] cdrom
On Sunday 09 May 2004 16:47, John wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Jennings Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 9:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] cdrom On Sunday 09 May 2004 13:28, John wrote: I have just upgraded to MD 10 official from 9.2. The cdrom was reconfigured and now it will not mount. It is a memorex cdrw. Would appreciate any help in getting it back up. Thanks John Mdk 10.0 now uses magicdev instead of supermount for cdroms Check you have the magicdev package installed, and the line for your cdrom in /etc/fstab should look something like this /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 Also in 10.0 the 2.6 kernel no longer needs to use ide-scsi in order to write CD-RW so in your /etc/lilo -v file remove any reference to ide-scsi in the append line and then run lilo -v to write the boot sector. derek hello derek Thanks for the quick response. I installed the magicdev package and changed the fstab file to mnt/cdrom auto from mnt/hdc. The mount point has to exist as a folder. So if the folder /mnt/cdrom does not exist you must create it before the cdrom will mount. Magicdev starts when you log in, so you might have to log out and back in again before it will start ps aux | grep magicdev will confirm it is running. I checked the lilo file and did not see any reference to ide-scsi. The new lilo file read: append=devfs=mount acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5. I also ran the lilo -v afterwards. Cd-rom won't mount. I am probably doing something wrong here but can't see it. Thanks john I assume you are using a data CD and not an audio CD? Audio CDs do not mount. Also how are you checking if the drive will mount? With magicdev there is no need to mount the CD. Just open konqueror and browse to the mount point. And finally. You are actually using the 2.6 kernel are you? uname -r will confirm which kernel you are using. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom
On Sunday 09 May 2004 12:50 pm, John wrote:
Mdk 10.0 now uses magicdev instead of supermount for cdroms
Check you have the magicdev package installed, and the line
for your cdrom in /etc/fstab should look something like this
/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto
umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec
0 0
Also in 10.0 the 2.6 kernel no longer needs to use ide-scsi
in order to write CD-RW so in your /etc/lilo -v file remove
any reference to ide-scsi in the append line and then run
lilo -v to write the boot sector.
derek
Removing references in modprobe.conf and modprobe.preload
for ide-scsi is also neccessary. Consider this advice
temporary as Mandrake (current 10.1 devel) is goin back to
ide-scsi for IDE CD devices. Early 10.1 (2.6.5 or .6 kernel)
is already back to it.
Contrary to the questionable Mandrake move, this 'last
minute' change to magicdev for 10.0, I'd suggest doin a urpme
on it an then runnin 'supermount -i enable' 'mount -a'
Supermount is mature, magicdev is alpha, and has known
problems. I find supermount-ng as implemented in current 2.6.x
kernels to be flawless.
Another mistaken Mandrake move, but can easily be turned off
or removed is tmdns.
John, check that 'll /dev/hd*' return drives numbers
suitable for your CD drives(s). Make sure fstab also reflects
the correct device, ie, hd*, not scd*. Check /etc/ modprobe*
files to be certain they don't call ide-scsi or scsi host
adaptor. I'm sort'a thinkin your fstab (Mandrake bug) doesn't
accurately reflect the device connotations. If my advice
doesn't work for you post the results of
- 'll /dev/hd*' and also /dev/scd*
- Your /etc/fstab file.
- 'cdrecord -scanbus' and 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus'
- Your modprobe* files
Come to think of it, post your kernel version ('uname -r')
and the above to the list before makin any changes.
Tom
-Kernel version=2.6.3-7mdk
IIRC, that kernel uses ATA, and not ide-scsi. Newer kernels
do use ide-scsi (later 2.6.5 and now all 2.6.6)
-Fstab:/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
- None /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
-/dev/hda6/home ext3 defaults 1 2
- /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask =o,user,iocharset=iso8859-
1,codepage=850,ro,exec 00
You don't have supermount for your cd drive. If you want
it, just run 'supermount -i enable' It knows when and when not
to mount CD media. Make sure your cd drive is in fact the
primary drive on the 2nd ide channel (hdc).
-none /mnt/floppy supermount
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=
850,uma sk=0 0 0
-none /proc proc defaults 00
-/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
-modprobe: -options i810fb xres=800 hsync1=32 hsync2=48
vsync1=50 vsync2=70 vram=2 bpp=16 accel=1 mtrr=1
-install scsi_hostadapter ; /bin/true
^^
-install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe usb-uhci;
/bin/true
Remove or comment out (#) all ide-scsi and scsi_hostadapter
references in modprobe.conf and modprobe.preload. Might as well
take any out of modules.conf, even tho your 2.6 kernel doesn't
use it. Back up any files you make changes to before you edit
them. You might just need 'em later if you install a newer
kernel.
The cdrecord -scanbus produced a long file. Included was:
You need to use 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus'
After making all the changes above, it'd probly be easiest
just to reboot. Your cd drive should then be working properly.
--
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Proud to be an American
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[newbie] cdrom
I have just upgraded to MD 10 official from 9.2. The cdrom was reconfigured and now it will not mount. It is a memorex cdrw. Would appreciate any help in getting it back up. Thanks John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom
On Sunday 09 May 2004 13:28, John wrote: I have just upgraded to MD 10 official from 9.2. The cdrom was reconfigured and now it will not mount. It is a memorex cdrw. Would appreciate any help in getting it back up. Thanks John Mdk 10.0 now uses magicdev instead of supermount for cdroms Check you have the magicdev package installed, and the line for your cdrom in /etc/fstab should look something like this /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 Also in 10.0 the 2.6 kernel no longer needs to use ide-scsi in order to write CD-RW so in your /etc/lilo -v file remove any reference to ide-scsi in the append line and then run lilo -v to write the boot sector. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom
On Sunday 09 May 2004 08:18 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
On Sunday 09 May 2004 13:28, John wrote:
I have just upgraded to MD 10 official from 9.2. The cdrom
was reconfigured and now it will not mount. It is a memorex
cdrw. Would appreciate any help in getting it back up.
Thanks
John
Mdk 10.0 now uses magicdev instead of supermount for cdroms
Check you have the magicdev package installed, and the line for
your cdrom in /etc/fstab should look something like this
/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto
umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0
0
Also in 10.0 the 2.6 kernel no longer needs to use ide-scsi in
order to write CD-RW so in your /etc/lilo -v file remove any
reference to ide-scsi in the append line and then run lilo -v
to write the boot sector.
derek
Removing references in modprobe.conf and modprobe.preload for
ide-scsi is also neccessary. Consider this advice temporary as
Mandrake (current 10.1 devel) is goin back to ide-scsi for IDE CD
devices. Early 10.1 (2.6.5 or .6 kernel) is already back to it.
Contrary to the questionable Mandrake move, this 'last minute'
change to magicdev for 10.0, I'd suggest doin a urpme on it an
then runnin 'supermount -i enable' 'mount -a' Supermount is
mature, magicdev is alpha, and has known problems. I find
supermount-ng as implemented in current 2.6.x kernels to be
flawless.
Another mistaken Mandrake move, but can easily be turned off or
removed is tmdns.
John, check that 'll /dev/hd*' return drives numbers suitable
for your CD drives(s). Make sure fstab also reflects the correct
device, ie, hd*, not scd*. Check /etc/ modprobe* files to be
certain they don't call ide-scsi or scsi host adaptor. I'm
sort'a thinkin your fstab (Mandrake bug) doesn't accurately
reflect the device connotations. If my advice doesn't work for
you post the results of
- 'll /dev/hd*' and also /dev/scd*
- Your /etc/fstab file.
- 'cdrecord -scanbus' and 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus'
- Your modprobe* files
Come to think of it, post your kernel version ('uname -r') and
the above to the list before makin any changes.
Prepare to forget, undo/re-learn all this when you upgrade to
10.1, or a newer kernel than 10.0 came with.
In fairness it's not all Mandrakes doin. Currently Linus and
much of lkml is at odds with cdrecord and it's author. A fresh
install rather than an 'upgrade from' probly would'a avoided the
CD-RW problem tho.
--
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Proud to be an American
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RE: [newbie] cdrom
Mdk 10.0 now uses magicdev instead of supermount for cdroms
Check you have the magicdev package installed, and the line for
your cdrom in /etc/fstab should look something like this
/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto
umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0
0
Also in 10.0 the 2.6 kernel no longer needs to use ide-scsi in
order to write CD-RW so in your /etc/lilo -v file remove any
reference to ide-scsi in the append line and then run lilo -v
to write the boot sector.
derek
Removing references in modprobe.conf and modprobe.preload for
ide-scsi is also neccessary. Consider this advice temporary as
Mandrake (current 10.1 devel) is goin back to ide-scsi for IDE CD
devices. Early 10.1 (2.6.5 or .6 kernel) is already back to it.
Contrary to the questionable Mandrake move, this 'last minute'
change to magicdev for 10.0, I'd suggest doin a urpme on it an
then runnin 'supermount -i enable' 'mount -a' Supermount is
mature, magicdev is alpha, and has known problems. I find
supermount-ng as implemented in current 2.6.x kernels to be
flawless.
Another mistaken Mandrake move, but can easily be turned off or
removed is tmdns.
John, check that 'll /dev/hd*' return drives numbers suitable
for your CD drives(s). Make sure fstab also reflects the correct
device, ie, hd*, not scd*. Check /etc/ modprobe* files to be
certain they don't call ide-scsi or scsi host adaptor. I'm
sort'a thinkin your fstab (Mandrake bug) doesn't accurately
reflect the device connotations. If my advice doesn't work for
you post the results of
- 'll /dev/hd*' and also /dev/scd*
- Your /etc/fstab file.
- 'cdrecord -scanbus' and 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus'
- Your modprobe* files
Come to think of it, post your kernel version ('uname -r') and
the above to the list before makin any changes.
Tom
-Kernel version=2.6.3-7mdk
-Fstab:/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
- None /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
-/dev/hda6/home ext3 defaults 1 2
- /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask =o,user,iocharset=iso8859-
1,codepage=850,ro,exec 00
-none /mnt/floppy supermount
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,uma
sk=0 0 0
-none /proc proc defaults 00
-/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
-modprobe: -options i810fb xres=800 hsync1=32 hsync2=48 vsync1=50
vsync2=70 vram=2 bpp=16 accel=1 mtrr=1
-install scsi_hostadapter ; /bin/true
-install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe usb-uhci; /bin/true
The cdrecord -scanbus produced a long file. Included was:
scsidev: 'ATA'
devname: 'ATA'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
warning: using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface
I also noticed when checking mcc hardware that the device file had
been changed from /dev/hdc to /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target/lun0/cd. This
file change also happened in 9.2 and I couldn't mount the cd. I ended
up reinstalling 9.2. On md 10 it may have happened when I hit the run
config tool. Hope this info. helps. I am also having problems with
internet connection but will tackle that after this. Thanks for the
help.
john
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Re: [newbie] cdrom
Le May 9, 2004 01:50 pm, John a écrit :
Mdk 10.0 now uses magicdev instead of supermount for cdroms
Check you have the magicdev package installed, and the line for
your cdrom in /etc/fstab should look something like this
/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto
umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0
0
Also in 10.0 the 2.6 kernel no longer needs to use ide-scsi in
order to write CD-RW so in your /etc/lilo -v file remove any
reference to ide-scsi in the append line and then run lilo -v
to write the boot sector.
derek
Removing references in modprobe.conf and modprobe.preload for
ide-scsi is also neccessary. Consider this advice temporary as
Mandrake (current 10.1 devel) is goin back to ide-scsi for IDE CD
devices. Early 10.1 (2.6.5 or .6 kernel) is already back to it.
Contrary to the questionable Mandrake move, this 'last minute'
change to magicdev for 10.0, I'd suggest doin a urpme on it an
then runnin 'supermount -i enable' 'mount -a' Supermount is
mature, magicdev is alpha, and has known problems. I find
supermount-ng as implemented in current 2.6.x kernels to be
flawless.
Another mistaken Mandrake move, but can easily be turned off or
removed is tmdns.
John, check that 'll /dev/hd*' return drives numbers suitable
for your CD drives(s). Make sure fstab also reflects the correct
device, ie, hd*, not scd*. Check /etc/ modprobe* files to be
certain they don't call ide-scsi or scsi host adaptor. I'm
sort'a thinkin your fstab (Mandrake bug) doesn't accurately
reflect the device connotations. If my advice doesn't work for
you post the results of
- 'll /dev/hd*' and also /dev/scd*
- Your /etc/fstab file.
- 'cdrecord -scanbus' and 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus'
- Your modprobe* files
Come to think of it, post your kernel version ('uname -r') and
the above to the list before makin any changes.
Tom
-Kernel version=2.6.3-7mdk
-Fstab:/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
- None /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
-/dev/hda6/home ext3 defaults 1 2
- /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask =o,user,iocharset=iso8859-
1,codepage=850,ro,exec 00
my old entry: (should look a lot like your floppy entry below to use
supermount)
none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=utf8,umask=0 0
0
-none /mnt/floppy supermount
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,uma
sk=0 0 0
-none /proc proc defaults 00
-/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
-modprobe: -options i810fb xres=800 hsync1=32 hsync2=48 vsync1=50
vsync2=70 vram=2 bpp=16 accel=1 mtrr=1
-install scsi_hostadapter ; /bin/true
-install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe usb-uhci; /bin/true
The cdrecord -scanbus produced a long file. Included was:
scsidev: 'ATA'
devname: 'ATA'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
warning: using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface
I also noticed when checking mcc hardware that the device file had
been changed from /dev/hdc to /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target/lun0/cd. This
file change also happened in 9.2 and I couldn't mount the cd. I ended
up reinstalling 9.2. On md 10 it may have happened when I hit the run
config tool. Hope this info. helps. I am also having problems with
internet connection but will tackle that after this. Thanks for the
help.
john
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[newbie] cdrom drive problems
For some reason, my cdrom drive isn't working normally. When booting, it clicks for about the first 20 seconds. Also, I tried to boot from a CD, the Mandrake 10 Community disc, and it just loaded Lilo after about 10 seconds of a black screen with a blinking underscore. The other day it didn't open until I umounted then mounted it. The only info I have about it is what I got from harddrake: Bus: ?ide Drive capacity: ?burner DVD Channel: ?secondary New devfs device: ?/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd Old device file: ?/dev/hdc Media class: ?cdrom And that it's supermounted, not that I really know what that is. Thanks in Advance, Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM spin causes total crash
--- Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 06 February 2004 06:41 pm, Grant wrote: --- Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 06 February 2004 01:00 pm, Grant wrote: Hello! I'm using Mandrake 9.1, and all of a sudden it's acting very strange. One of the problems is the computer completely crashes whenever it tries to access a CD in the drive. For example, typing: cd /mnt/cdrom with a CD in the drive spins the CD and crashes the system. Help guys! What should I do? - Grant __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Need more info, must have more info. : ) What is the CDrom drive, brand, speed and firmware version if you know it. Come back and let's see what is going on. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Thank you for the response. The CDROM drive is actually in a laptop, and I don't think I have any of that info. It is a DVD drive though. It used to work just fine. It sounds like I may need to backup and reinstall? - Grant __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html I would try going into the MCC and hardware and select the DVD and do a configure on it. Note what the device is called. If supermount is messed up you may try typing mount /dev/scdx /mnt/cdrom or better still disable supermount and try the above command. Note the x in scdx is what your system shows in MCC, like scd0 or scd1 etc. The command to disable supermount is supermount -i disable IIRC. Somebody confirm please. Thanks, -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Thank you very much for your help. Things don't seem to be working out though, and I'm going to backup, reformat, and reinstall as I've been wanting to do that anyway. Thanks again! - Grant __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CDROM spin causes total crash
Hello! I'm using Mandrake 9.1, and all of a sudden it's acting very strange. One of the problems is the computer completely crashes whenever it tries to access a CD in the drive. For example, typing: cd /mnt/cdrom with a CD in the drive spins the CD and crashes the system. Help guys! What should I do? - Grant __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM spin causes total crash
On Friday 06 February 2004 01:00 pm, Grant wrote: Hello! I'm using Mandrake 9.1, and all of a sudden it's acting very strange. One of the problems is the computer completely crashes whenever it tries to access a CD in the drive. For example, typing: cd /mnt/cdrom with a CD in the drive spins the CD and crashes the system. Help guys! What should I do? - Grant __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Need more info, must have more info. : ) What is the CDrom drive, brand, speed and firmware version if you know it. Come back and let's see what is going on. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM spin causes total crash
--- Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 06 February 2004 01:00 pm, Grant wrote: Hello! I'm using Mandrake 9.1, and all of a sudden it's acting very strange. One of the problems is the computer completely crashes whenever it tries to access a CD in the drive. For example, typing: cd /mnt/cdrom with a CD in the drive spins the CD and crashes the system. Help guys! What should I do? - Grant __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Need more info, must have more info. : ) What is the CDrom drive, brand, speed and firmware version if you know it. Come back and let's see what is going on. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Thank you for the response. The CDROM drive is actually in a laptop, and I don't think I have any of that info. It is a DVD drive though. It used to work just fine. It sounds like I may need to backup and reinstall? - Grant __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM spin causes total crash
On Friday 06 February 2004 06:41 pm, Grant wrote: --- Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 06 February 2004 01:00 pm, Grant wrote: Hello! I'm using Mandrake 9.1, and all of a sudden it's acting very strange. One of the problems is the computer completely crashes whenever it tries to access a CD in the drive. For example, typing: cd /mnt/cdrom with a CD in the drive spins the CD and crashes the system. Help guys! What should I do? - Grant __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Need more info, must have more info. : ) What is the CDrom drive, brand, speed and firmware version if you know it. Come back and let's see what is going on. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Thank you for the response. The CDROM drive is actually in a laptop, and I don't think I have any of that info. It is a DVD drive though. It used to work just fine. It sounds like I may need to backup and reinstall? - Grant __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html I would try going into the MCC and hardware and select the DVD and do a configure on it. Note what the device is called. If supermount is messed up you may try typing mount /dev/scdx /mnt/cdrom or better still disable supermount and try the above command. Note the x in scdx is what your system shows in MCC, like scd0 or scd1 etc. The command to disable supermount is supermount -i disable IIRC. Somebody confirm please. Thanks, -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Cdrom mounting problems - K3b did it 8(
Hi All, not knowing any reason not to . I setup K3b to copy from cdrom (reader) to cdrom2 (burner) and changed the append line of lilo to add hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi , since cdrdao complains about scsi not being enabled for all the devices ... Well it did work for K3b but I cant access the drive through any file manager since it wont read the proper device. I think hdc in /dev is .. now .. symlinked wrong ... it points to generic ? shouldn't it point to ../scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd or even cdrom0 ?? TIA -- RickS Linux user #338463 -- 2.4.22-26mdk i686 If you have to use your training in self-defence, your assailant's father will be a lawyer -- Murphy's Laws of Martial Arts n°6 - Current setup - /dev -- lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 13 Jan 20 05:55 cdrom - cdroms/cdrom0 lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 13 Jan 20 05:55 cdrom0 - cdroms/cdrom0 lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 13 Jan 20 05:55 cdrom1 - cdroms/cdrom1 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 35 Jan 20 05:55 hdc - ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/generic lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 35 Jan 20 05:55 hdd - ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/generic /dev/cdroms -- drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Dec 31 1969 cdroms/ lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 34 Dec 31 1969 cdrom0 - ../scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 34 Dec 31 1969 cdrom1 - ../scsi/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/cd fstab 9.2 - 1-18-2004 - /dev/hde1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hde7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,codepage=850,sync,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win_c2 vfat umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/win_d2 vfat umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hde6 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hde5 swap swap defaults 0 0 mtab 9.2 - 1-18-2004 --- /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 / ext3 rw 0 0 none /proc proc rw 0 0 none /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0 none /dev devfs rw 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0 /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part7 /home ext3 rw 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom supermount ro,dev=/dev/hdc,fs=udf:iso9660,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount ro,dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 /mnt/win_c vfat rw,umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part1 /mnt/win_c2 vfat rw,umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 /mnt/win_d vfat rw,umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part5 /mnt/win_d2 vfat rw,umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 /usr ext3 rw 0 0 automount(pid3156) /misc autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=3156,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0 automount(pid3160) /net autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=3160,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cdrom problem
S Wieland wrote: I think I did an uh-oh. I removed my rom drives (1 cdr, 1 dvd) from my mandrake 9.1, dell dimension 8100 to put into my new computer, and put an old cdrom from a OLD 233 pentium II into the dell/linux box. I didnt do any remove hardware thingy in linux nor was the box ON when i did it. At first it booted fine, maybe the first 2-3 boots and i never tried to test the cd-rom. After a few more days and 1 or 2 more boots i would get a cannot find secondary disk drive strike F1 to continue ( i have 2 hdd in the linux box). no problem to me because i havent gotten far enough to use the second disk ( i think :-/). To keep this long and boring story short I am now wanting to install mandrake 9.2 or Mandrake Move (any suggestions onto which one?) but my cd rom is not detected in the bios. I was thinking that it was a connection issue so i opened it up and all the proper cables are in the proper areas. This leading me to believe it may be a bad cable. Ive come up to two conclusions. 1. putting back the original roms and original cable or 2. maybe there is a floppy boot disk i can use that will enable a driver for the cdrom. Any help or hey everybody lets point and laugh at the kid withhis pants down would be greatly aprreciated thanks a billion -boardrider Welcome to Mandrake, I don't think you have a driver problem. The rom drive must be recognised in bios. What is your IDE cable setup ? Do you have two IDE cables, are Hardrives on one roms on the other ? Do you have just the one IDE cable ? I would suggest that you examine your replacement cdrom dive and make sure that you have them configured master and slave as appropiate, you cannot have two drives on the same cable both set up master or both set up slave. The bios will not like it. So first off you have got to sort out bios recognition of your rom and hard drives. my cd rom is not detected in the bios must be addressed first. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cdrom problem
On Tuesday 13 January 2004 11:50 pm, S Wieland wrote: but my cd rom is not detected in the bios. I was thinking that it was a connection issue so i opened it up and all the proper cables are in the proper areas. You might want to doublecheck the jumpers. If they are set to cable select, you may need to explicitly set them to master instead. That has helped me with similar issues in the past. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cdrom problem
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 04:09, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Tuesday 13 January 2004 11:50 pm, S Wieland wrote: but my cd rom is not detected in the bios. I was thinking that it was a connection issue so i opened it up and all the proper cables are in the proper areas. You might want to doublecheck the jumpers. If they are set to cable select, you may need to explicitly set them to master instead. That has helped me with similar issues in the past. Cable Select? ..has that position ever worked for anything? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cdrom problem
On Wednesday 14 January 2004 07:43 am, Aron Smith wrote: Cable Select? ..has that position ever worked for anything? Funny you bring that up. I used to be a disinclined to EVER use CS for any drive, until I ran into some problems with my western digital drives on my raid controller on my SOYO MB. Their recommendation is to use CS for all Western Digital Hard drives on my motherboard. Turns out, it actually does work better too. Go figure. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cdrom problem
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 06:12, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 14 January 2004 07:43 am, Aron Smith wrote: Cable Select? ..has that position ever worked for anything? Funny you bring that up. I used to be a disinclined to EVER use CS for any drive, until I ran into some problems with my western digital drives on my raid controller on my SOYO MB. Their recommendation is to use CS for all Western Digital Hard drives on my motherboard. Turns out, it actually does work better too. Go figure. verrry interesting Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cdrom problem
Set the CD jumper to cable select and try again Ian - Original Message - From: S Wieland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:50 PM Subject: [newbie] Cdrom problem I think I did an uh-oh. I removed my rom drives (1 cdr, 1 dvd) from my mandrake 9.1, dell dimension 8100 to put into my new computer, and put an old cdrom from a OLD 233 pentium II into the dell/linux box. I didnt do any remove hardware thingy in linux nor was the box ON when i did it. At first it booted fine, maybe the first 2-3 boots and i never tried to test the cd-rom. After a few more days and 1 or 2 more boots i would get a cannot find secondary disk drive strike F1 to continue ( i have 2 hdd in the linux box). no problem to me because i havent gotten far enough to use the second disk ( i think :-/). To keep this long and boring story short I am now wanting to install mandrake 9.2 or Mandrake Move (any suggestions onto which one?) but my cd rom is not detected in the bios. I was thinking that it was a connection issue so i opened it up and all the proper cables are in the proper areas. This leading me to believe it may be a bad cable. Ive come up to two conclusions. 1. putting back the original roms and original cable or 2. maybe there is a floppy boot disk i can use that will enable a driver for the cdrom. Any help or hey everybody lets point and laugh at the kid withhis pants down would be greatly aprreciated thanks a billion -boardrider Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cdrom problem
On Wednesday 14 Jan 2004 14:12, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 14 January 2004 07:43 am, Aron Smith wrote: Cable Select? ..has that position ever worked for anything? Funny you bring that up. I used to be a disinclined to EVER use CS for any drive, until I ran into some problems with my western digital drives on my raid controller on my SOYO MB. Their recommendation is to use CS for all Western Digital Hard drives on my motherboard. Turns out, it actually does work better too. Go figure. I recently came across this too, my local retailer said always use CS with 80 pin IDE cable, I noted until and disregarded it as I don't have any 80 pins. This link http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/conf_CS.htm seems to support the argument though -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Cdrom problem
I think I did an uh-oh. I removed my rom drives (1 cdr, 1 dvd) from my mandrake 9.1, dell dimension 8100 to put into my new computer, and put an old cdrom from a OLD 233 pentium II into the dell/linux box. I didnt do any remove hardware thingy in linux nor was the box ON when i did it. At first it booted fine, maybe the first 2-3 boots and i never tried to test the cd-rom. After a few more days and 1 or 2 more boots i would get a cannot find secondary disk drive strike F1 to continue ( i have 2 hdd in the linux box). no problem to me because i havent gotten far enough to use the second disk ( i think :-/). To keep this long and boring story short I am now wanting to install mandrake 9.2 or Mandrake Move (any suggestions onto which one?) but my cd rom is not detected in the bios. I was thinking that it was a connection issue so i opened it up and all the proper cables are in the proper areas. This leading me to believe it may be a bad cable. Ive come up to two conclusions. 1. putting back the original roms and original cable or 2. maybe there is a floppy boot disk i can use that will enable a driver for the cdrom. Any help or hey everybody lets point and laugh at the kid withhis pants down would be greatly aprreciated thanks a billion -boardrider Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom failure
On Friday 26 December 2003 18:40, ronald wrote: Op vrijdag 26 december 2003 19:07, schreef John: I put in a new cdrom and system still won't boot from 9.2 installation cd. It apparently skips the cd boot and goes into the regular boot with md 9.1. Are there any other possibilities? My only thoughts right now are to possibly try a hammer but I would probably miss and hit my thumb. Any help is appreciated. Thanks john is your bios set to boot from cd first? if so try cd2... if you have a working system you can also read the install.htm on cd1 and create a bootfloppy HTH ronald I think I read somewhere that some older systems wouldn't boot from a cd if the drive was mounted as slave. Could that be your problem? OTOH, I have been working on a friend's M$ box, where I had the greatest difficulty persuading it to boot from a cd, so there may be other possibilities. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom failure
On Saturday 27 December 2003 06:24 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 26 December 2003 18:40, ronald wrote: is your bios set to boot from cd first? if so try cd2... if you have a working system you can also read the install.htm on cd1 and create a bootfloppy HTH ronald I think I read somewhere that some older systems wouldn't boot from a cd if the drive was mounted as slave. Could that be your problem? OTOH, I have been working on a friend's M$ box, where I had the greatest difficulty persuading it to boot from a cd, so there may be other possibilities. Anne I reset the jumper on the new cdrom to master and installed. Everything worked fine. 9.2 installed ok and i am downloading the updates. Thanks to everyone for their responses and help. Best wishes to everyone for the upcoming new year. john Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] cdrom failure
I put in a new cdrom and system still won't boot from 9.2 installation cd. It apparently skips the cd boot and goes into the regular boot with md 9.1. Are there any other possibilities? My only thoughts right now are to possibly try a hammer but I would probably miss and hit my thumb. Any help is appreciated. Thanks john Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom failure
Op vrijdag 26 december 2003 19:07, schreef John: I put in a new cdrom and system still won't boot from 9.2 installation cd. It apparently skips the cd boot and goes into the regular boot with md 9.1. Are there any other possibilities? My only thoughts right now are to possibly try a hammer but I would probably miss and hit my thumb. Any help is appreciated. Thanks john is your bios set to boot from cd first? if so try cd2... if you have a working system you can also read the install.htm on cd1 and create a bootfloppy HTH ronald -- Registered Linux User #163597 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom failure
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday 26 December 2003 11:07 am, John wrote: I put in a new cdrom and system still won't boot from 9.2 installation cd. It apparently skips the cd boot and goes into the regular boot with md 9.1. Are there any other possibilities? My only thoughts right now are to possibly try a hammer but I would probably miss and hit my thumb. Any help is appreciated. Thanks john I'm _w_ late to this thread so if you've already posted this information please excuse me. Are either or both CDROMs LG? If so do they have the latest firmware installed *before* you try to boot from a 9.2 install disk? If not they're probably dead but may be recoverable. Is the boot order in the BIOS set to boot from CD first or from hard drive first? Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk 11:36:20 up 5 days, 21:25, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.13, 0.10 To vacillate or not to vacillate, that is the question ... or is it? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/7IOhZqvqlrLPr5YRAhCbAJ4nbNIBFtTRR2poA5pnPMLIcHTgEQCbBMOV B32fVbT3OMYh2Gk0LuH9bOI= =mOLY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] cdrom failure
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Mahan Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] cdrom failure -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday 26 December 2003 11:07 am, John wrote: I put in a new cdrom and system still won't boot from 9.2 installation cd. It apparently skips the cd boot and goes into the regular boot with md 9.1. Are there any other possibilities? My only thoughts right now are to possibly try a hammer but I would probably miss and hit my thumb. Any help is appreciated. Thanks john I'm _w_ late to this thread so if you've already posted this information please excuse me. Are either or both CDROMs LG? If so do they have the latest firmware installed *before* you try to boot from a 9.2 install disk? If not they're probably dead but may be recoverable. Is the boot order in the BIOS set to boot from CD first or from hard drive first? Hi It is not an lg.It is a teac cdrw. Everything was working fine up until last week. Cdrom quit working and then the update killed X. 9.2 cd's came in and thought this would be a good time to install. System won't boot from cd. I have checked the bios and the boot sequence is cdrom,removable device(floppy), hardrive, network. I picked up a new cendyne cdrw this morning and tried it. Same results-doesn't work. All that happens is the led blinks continuously. john Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] cdrom failure
Is the boot order in the BIOS set to boot from CD first or from hard drive first? Hi It is not an lg.It is a teac cdrw. Everything was working fine up until last week. Cdrom quit working and then the update killed X. 9.2 cd's came in and thought this would be a good time to install. System won't boot from cd. I have checked the bios and the boot sequence is cdrom,removable device(floppy), hardrive, network. I picked up a new cendyne cdrw this morning and tried it. Same results-doesn't work. All that happens is the led blinks continuously. john hello again just re-installed new cdrom and changed the jumper to master on the back of the cdrom. Cd-rom worked. Am getting ready to load 9.2. Will be back. Thanks for your responses john Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom failure
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday 26 December 2003 12:38 pm, John wrote: whack hello again just re-installed new cdrom and changed the jumper to master on the back of the cdrom. Cd-rom worked. Am getting ready to load 9.2. Will be back. Thanks for your responses john You are quick! (-: That was going to be my next question. Have fun with 9.2. Don't forget about the update-menus errata and a few others, and if you're going to install an upgrade kernel I'd recommend the tmb or multi media ones. Or even a 2.6 but that may be a bit much. Kind of a pain in the assets. I've installed one, I just haven't wanted to reboot. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk 12:50:50 up 5 days, 22:39, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.14, 0.08 Great American Axiom: If some is good, then more is better, and too much is just right. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/7JIyZqvqlrLPr5YRAhdZAJ9CyYzDpDW97/jMor1BF6sg/6+w9gCfWvZy qEIXkVS7x/ojsHBJonkqi+w= =7oHa -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom/floppy drives
On Monday 15 December 2003 09:05 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 15 Dec 2003 10:18 am, amine grun wrote: --- Message d'origine --- De: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:22:01 + Sujet: Re: [newbie] cdrom/floppy drives On Sunday 14 Dec 2003 10:14 pm, John wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2003 04:01 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 14 Dec 2003 3:23 pm, John wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2003 05:31 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 13 Dec 2003 10:49 pm, John wrote: Thanks for response. Tried harddrake and noticed the files had changed. Floppy= new devfs device: /dev/floppy/0; old device file:/dev/fd0... Cdrom= new devfs device: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0 /target0/lun0/cd; old device file: /dev/scd0... I'm not sure how or why the change. Error message when trying to access cd says could not enter directory /mnt/cdrom. Thanks for help. John /dev/fd0 is a link to /dev/floppy/0, so it's no problem (see attached). I would guess, though, that your /etc/fstab may need adjusting. Check that you still have the mount points that you want to use, /mnt/floppy, /mnt/cdrom etc.. Then paste a copy of your fstab into your reply, and one of us will check it for you. Anne Anne Thanks again for the response. Here is the copy of /etc/fstab. /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,u ma sk =0 0 0 none /mnt/scd0 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask =0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 I'm learning here so i'm not sure about the mount points. I am using the default setup from the installation process if that helps, but something has changed from that setup. Clearly fstab is still looking for those link files. I assume that they have been lost. I would guess that you could simply change the relevant fstab lines, making dev=/dev/fd0 read dev=/dev/floppy/0 and so on, but I suspect that it would be better to recreate the links. It's time for someone more experienced to jump in on this one. Should he recreate the links? Can you give precise instructions? Anne Hi ! try changing the two lines in fstab like this : /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat,msdos dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859- 1,sync,users,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 # the abov for floppy drive, users is to let users mount and unmount it. / dev/scd0 /mnt/scd0 iso9660 dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,users,codepage=850,uma sk=0 0 0 # iso9660 or iso6990 i don't remember i am not at home to check, you can leave supermount unchanged and try # the others filesystems if it failes. #goodluck !! amine It's always a good idea to copy a config file like fstab first, either by cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old or by opening it in a text editor then saving to a new name. Once you've done that, the simplest change for you to make is to replace /dev/fd0 with /dev/floppy/0 and replace /dev/scd0 with /dev/scsi/host0/bus0 /target0/lun0/cd I'm pretty sure it would work like that, just didn't know if it was the best way to do it. I agree with amine, though, that adding 'user' will be important for you. Without that only root would be able to access them. Anne Thanks for response amine and Anne. I'll let you know as soon as i get time to try the change if it works. Its a busy week and will probably be the weekend. Thanks again. john Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom/floppy drives
On Saturday 13 Dec 2003 10:49 pm, John wrote: Hi I have been uable to access my cdrom and floppy drives. The following message comes up: /mnt/cdrom file doesn't seem to exist anymore. I am running md9.1 and have not had any problems using both until now. Would appreciate any suggestions on what might correct this. Thanks john Try Mandrake Control Center Hardware HardDrake which should find them again. I do have the problem from time to time with removable devices, but problems with the cdrom and floppy are not as usual. Let us know what happens. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom/floppy drives
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 13 Dec 2003 10:49 pm, John wrote: Hi I have been uable to access my cdrom and floppy drives. The following message comes up: /mnt/cdrom file doesn't seem to exist anymore. I am running md9.1 and have not had any problems using both until now. Would appreciate any suggestions on what might correct this. Thanks john Try Mandrake Control Center Hardware HardDrake which should find them again. I do have the problem from time to time with removable devices, but problems with the cdrom and floppy are not as usual. Let us know what happens. Thanks Anne - co-incidentally I had the same problem with my CD writer and DVD-ROM when I booted up today. I still have no idea what caused it, but Harddrake sorted it out. Sir Robin -- Certitude is possible for those who only own one encyclopedia. - Robert Anton Wilson Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom/floppy drives
On Sunday 14 December 2003 05:31 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 13 Dec 2003 10:49 pm, John wrote: Hi I have been uable to access my cdrom and floppy drives. The following message comes up: /mnt/cdrom file doesn't seem to exist anymore. I am running md9.1 and have not had any problems using both until now. Would appreciate any suggestions on what might correct this. Thanks john Try Mandrake Control Center Hardware HardDrake which should find them again. I do have the problem from time to time with removable devices, but problems with the cdrom and floppy are not as usual. Let us know what happens. Anne Thanks for response. Tried harddrake and noticed the files had changed. Floppy= new devfs device: /dev/floppy/0; old device file:/dev/fd0... Cdrom= new devfs device: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0 /target0/lun0/cd; old device file: /dev/scd0... I'm not sure how or why the change. Error message when trying to access cd says could not enter directory /mnt/cdrom. Thanks for help. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom/floppy drives
On Sunday 14 December 2003 04:01 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 14 Dec 2003 3:23 pm, John wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2003 05:31 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 13 Dec 2003 10:49 pm, John wrote: Thanks for response. Tried harddrake and noticed the files had changed. Floppy= new devfs device: /dev/floppy/0; old device file:/dev/fd0... Cdrom= new devfs device: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0 /target0/lun0/cd; old device file: /dev/scd0... I'm not sure how or why the change. Error message when trying to access cd says could not enter directory /mnt/cdrom. Thanks for help. John /dev/fd0 is a link to /dev/floppy/0, so it's no problem (see attached). I would guess, though, that your /etc/fstab may need adjusting. Check that you still have the mount points that you want to use, /mnt/floppy, /mnt/cdrom etc.. Then paste a copy of your fstab into your reply, and one of us will check it for you. Anne Anne Thanks again for the response. Here is the copy of /etc/fstab. /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/scd0 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 I'm learning here so i'm not sure about the mount points. I am using the default setup from the installation process if that helps, but something has changed from that setup. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom/floppy drives
On Sunday 14 Dec 2003 10:14 pm, John wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2003 04:01 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 14 Dec 2003 3:23 pm, John wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2003 05:31 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 13 Dec 2003 10:49 pm, John wrote: Thanks for response. Tried harddrake and noticed the files had changed. Floppy= new devfs device: /dev/floppy/0; old device file:/dev/fd0... Cdrom= new devfs device: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0 /target0/lun0/cd; old device file: /dev/scd0... I'm not sure how or why the change. Error message when trying to access cd says could not enter directory /mnt/cdrom. Thanks for help. John /dev/fd0 is a link to /dev/floppy/0, so it's no problem (see attached). I would guess, though, that your /etc/fstab may need adjusting. Check that you still have the mount points that you want to use, /mnt/floppy, /mnt/cdrom etc.. Then paste a copy of your fstab into your reply, and one of us will check it for you. Anne Anne Thanks again for the response. Here is the copy of /etc/fstab. /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,umask =0 0 0 none /mnt/scd0 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 I'm learning here so i'm not sure about the mount points. I am using the default setup from the installation process if that helps, but something has changed from that setup. Clearly fstab is still looking for those link files. I assume that they have been lost. I would guess that you could simply change the relevant fstab lines, making dev=/dev/fd0 read dev=/dev/floppy/0 and so on, but I suspect that it would be better to recreate the links. It's time for someone more experienced to jump in on this one. Should he recreate the links? Can you give precise instructions? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] cdrom/floppy drives
Hi I have been uable to access my cdrom and floppy drives. The following message comes up: /mnt/cdrom file doesn't seem to exist anymore. I am running md9.1 and have not had any problems using both until now. Would appreciate any suggestions on what might correct this. Thanks john Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Sunday 26 Oct 2003 10:35 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote: On cooker list, every single release cycle since i'm lurking on it, i see a thread starting about a month before scheduled release date. In this thread someone pleads for more testing/time and to kick the release date a little further into the future. The answer to those posters is always the same: Bah, that was said also in the last cycle, and it went OK, so we don't need another beta. We don't need more time Damian, I'm not expressing an opinion, just exploring. It seems to me that the big question is 'why did this problem only surface so late in the pre-release cycle?'. There must be some connection with the kind of people (their available equipment) who do the earlier stage testing. The next question has to be 'how can a more representative sample of hardware be found during the testing phase?'. Longer time isn't enough, I think, unless we can answer those questions. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Monday 27 Oct 2003 7:58 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 26 Oct 2003 10:35 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote: On cooker list, every single release cycle since i'm lurking on it, i see a thread starting about a month before scheduled release date. In this thread someone pleads for more testing/time and to kick the release date a little further into the future. The answer to those posters is always the same: Bah, that was said also in the last cycle, and it went OK, so we don't need another beta. We don't need more time Damian, I'm not expressing an opinion, just exploring. It seems to me that the big question is 'why did this problem only surface so late in the pre-release cycle?'. There must be some connection with the kind of people (their available equipment) who do the earlier stage testing. The next question has to be 'how can a more representative sample of hardware be found during the testing phase?'. Longer time isn't enough, I think, unless we can answer those questions. Anne If the club had been given downloads _before_ the CDs went to the pressing plant Mandrake would have a lot less bother on their hands. (Wouldn't get me anything - bittorrent crashes my LAN hub in about 30 mins.)-: There are never enough testers to test everything, and they *tend* to have top quality hardware. - or in this case maybe just certified Linux compatible CDROM drives because they've been around since it was manditory. Maybe the club should be considered a gamma test? As in This is the final release, unless you folks can shake out a show-stopper in the next two weeks. Of course, human nature being what it is, that might turn into just the final RC. Maybe they could offer a prize for the first person to find a bug that actually stops the presses. (How much money/goodwill are they losing over this one?) -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Monday 27 October 2003 01:58 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 26 Oct 2003 10:35 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote: On cooker list, every single release cycle since i'm lurking on it, i see a thread starting about a month before scheduled release date. In this thread someone pleads for more testing/time and to kick the release date a little further into the future. The answer to those posters is always the same: Bah, that was said also in the last cycle, and it went OK, so we don't need another beta. We don't need more time Damian, I'm not expressing an opinion, just exploring. It seems to me that the big question is 'why did this problem only surface so late in the pre-release cycle?'. There must be some connection with the kind of people (their available equipment) who do the earlier stage testing. The next question has to be 'how can a more representative sample of hardware be found during the testing phase?'. Longer time isn't enough, I think, unless we can answer those questions. Anne This may have been caught earlier if someone like me had been more experienced and associated the death of the drives with the OS. I reasoned that since they were OEM drives that the dealer had just recieved a bad batch. Ones with faulty capacitors or something. I did not get truly suspicious until the dealers repair dept. rep indicated that I seemed to be the only one with the problem. That is when I came to the list and asked the question. So, what I am saying is unless someone at Mandrake had tested with a OEM LG CDROM of recent vintage, they would have no way of knowing there was a problem. All All other Brands and CDRWs seem to be ok. Now I know that a OS can fry electronic equipment, before I never would have believed it was possible. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
El mié, 22-10-2003 a las 18:29, HaywireMac escribió: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:05:37 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: It's kernel issue, not just Mandrake's. Any distro usin 2.4.22 could mess up junk hardware. Go to kernel.org and look for the various hardware blacklists. Or don't buy junk to run Linux on. So all the people who have lost valuable hardware are just idiots who shouldn't have bought junk to run Linux on. Nice attitude, Tom, thanks for the input. Let's get the ugly out of the way first: I do not like the way you post. You disagree with Tom, (and I do, too) but... well.. never mind. You already know what i'm going to say. Now, about the junk part... When 9.0 was released, it came out with a version of supermount that didn't work on certain drives. Sometimes you would go into /mnt/cdrom, do a `ls` and see all the files... and when you tried to actually use any of then, you were told that the file didn exist... nice one. It turned up that this bug affected low quality drives mostly. So, the attitude around the cooker and expert list was pretty much the same as Tom's. Your fault, you shouldn't buy crappy hardware to begin with , completely ignoring the fact that these drives worked PERFECTLY on 8.2 and prior. (and worked perfectly also if you used any other kernel...) On cooker list, every single release cycle since i'm lurking on it, i see a thread starting about a month before scheduled release date. In this thread someone pleads for more testing/time and to kick the release date a little further into the future. The answer to those posters is always the same: Bah, that was said also in the last cycle, and it went OK, so we don't need another beta. We don't need more time . every single time, i stay quiet and say nothing.. because i know my opinion doesn't matter to them. Every single time i agree with the guy saying they need more time. This kind of sh*t proves them (and me) right. 6 months release cycle? Yeah, right. Then beta testing should start one month after a stable release. We will keep seeing Big Bugs(tm) until something is done about that impossible release rythm. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:09:45 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: that were mostly all blacklisted by kernel.org. I have yet to find such a blacklist. Got a link? -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Murphy was an optimist. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:05:37 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Please note that the problem only seems to be with the CDROM drives, not CD-RW drives. The one I use now as master is a LG CD-RW 52x24x52x drive and it has no problems. HTH That's good to hear, the club forums didn't make that as clear. You are running 9.2 I take it? -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ A dream will always triumph over reality, once it is given the chance. -- Stanislaw Lem Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Thursday 23 October 2003 05:34 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:05:37 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Please note that the problem only seems to be with the CDROM drives, not CD-RW drives. The one I use now as master is a LG CD-RW 52x24x52x drive and it has no problems. HTH That's good to hear, the club forums didn't make that as clear. You are running 9.2 I take it? Right, 9.2 on two comps both with LG CDRWs as the main CDROM now. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:43:33 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Right, 9.2 on two comps both with LG CDRWs as the main CDROM now. HTH Excellent, load off my mind, thanks. You should post that to the club forums, just so they have the info that CDRW's seem to be okay. http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=12568forum=9start=30 -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ A priest advised Voltaire on his death bed to renounce the devil. Replied Voltaire, This is no time to make new enemies. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
At 07:23 PM 10/22/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): LeRoy Duvall Linux user #258988 OK, this is perhaps a little off-topic, but I am still a newbie.g What does this Linux user # thing mean? -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who has never learned to walk. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt Help fight SPAM. Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 23, 2003 12:47 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: At 07:23 PM 10/22/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): LeRoy Duvall Linux user #258988 OK, this is perhaps a little off-topic, but I am still a newbie.g What does this Linux user # thing mean? Click the link in my signature and you'll find out. g Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-18mdk The best security update for Windows that I've found is the installer for Mandrake Linux. Especially the Use Entire Disk option. (-; -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/mCc3G11CaRuZZSIRAklmAJ0Uy0G6UEN02m1L0/v3oMmAogivogCglACV 57vrUtsWyFIhGHY9FyGLXBE= =4vHI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:47 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: OK, this is perhaps a little off-topic, but I am still a newbie.g What does this Linux user # thing mean? This # thing on a command line is your root-prompt. From here you can type in commands, somehow like this C:\ thing in another OS. The similarity here is clear : when seeing this prompt you have the power to destroy everything on your harddisk. So use with care in linux. (In the other OS, it doesn't matter, it selfdestructs anyway). If, however, you want to do things from the command-line in linux, you should see the $ sign, not the # . This indicates that you are yourself (in a terminal , try typing whoami). Now you can issue commands, scripts etc.. without the risk of harming anything vital on your system. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *This mail was sent from a 100 % Microsoft free computer* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
At 03:08 PM 10/23/2003, Charlie M. said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 23, 2003 12:47 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: At 07:23 PM 10/22/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): LeRoy Duvall Linux user #258988 OK, this is perhaps a little off-topic, but I am still a newbie.g What does this Linux user # thing mean? Click the link in my signature and you'll find out. g Thank you, Charlie. I am now a registered user.g -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q. What do you get when you cross a Mafioso and a deconstructionist? A. Someone who makes you an offer you can't understand. Help fight SPAM. Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Thursday 23 October 2003 01:47 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: At 07:23 PM 10/22/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): LeRoy Duvall Linux user #258988 OK, this is perhaps a little off-topic, but I am still a newbie.g What does this Linux user # thing mean? It is just a way of trying to get a handle on the number of people really using linux OS's. See this for an explanation http://counter.li.org/ HTH Dennis M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 08:11 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:42 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: I had never even heard of LG Electronics before this came up. I haven't been following this all that closely, but it seems that Compaq (for one) _has_ heard of LG, and shipped a whole bunch of them. Until I hear otherwise, God bless Mitsumi. -- cmg So what you are saying is that the Mitsumi line is not made by LG? They make so many rebranded drives for other companies it is hard to know if you are getting an LG in disguise. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:22 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 08:11 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:42 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: I had never even heard of LG Electronics before this came up. I haven't been following this all that closely, but it seems that Compaq (for one) _has_ heard of LG, and shipped a whole bunch of them. Until I hear otherwise, God bless Mitsumi. -- cmg So what you are saying is that the Mitsumi line is not made by LG? They make so many rebranded drives for other companies it is hard to know if you are getting an LG in disguise. Dennis: Good point, but this thing is pretty damn old -- I bought it in early '98 at a local computer show from the legendary Two Guys and a Goat company. The drives that are going belly up are of more recent vintage. I expect that the root problem is that some guy at LG figured out a way to save 1.4 cents on each drive. I'll find out when my 9.2 CD's arrive. (Note to self: Start the install well before the local stores close.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 08:29 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Wondering if anyone has run into this, I put a brand new (cheap $19.95 US) LG CDROM in the computer, a Gigabyte MB with Athlon 2000 cpu and DDR ram, and as soon as Mandrake harddrake detects it the drive light goes steady on and the drive will not work. At next boot up no light and no response the drive is dead. Took it back for exchange three times and same results. So I stick the old 24X sony CDROM back in and it works fine. I have no idea what is going on. The power supply is rock solid. Could there be a mobo problem? Any ideas? Dennis: There have been some reports on the club Forums about 9.2 killing LG drives and there is also some discussion at cooker. Take a look at the second posting here: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=12989forum=10 -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 09:14 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tuesday 21 October 2003 08:29 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Wondering if anyone has run into this, I put a brand new (cheap $19.95 US) LG CDROM in the computer, a Gigabyte MB with Athlon 2000 cpu and DDR ram, and as soon as Mandrake harddrake detects it the drive light goes steady on and the drive will not work. At next boot up no light and no response the drive is dead. Took it back for exchange three times and same results. So I stick the old 24X sony CDROM back in and it works fine. I have no idea what is going on. The power supply is rock solid. Could there be a mobo problem? Any ideas? Dennis: There have been some reports on the club Forums about 9.2 killing LG drives and there is also some discussion at cooker. Take a look at the second posting here: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=v iewtopictopic=12989forum=10 -- cmg Thanks, Carroll, it appears that the bottom line is I have fried $40 worth of drives, my cost, and $60 worth of the dealers drives because of a nasty bug in 9.2. Some of the talk is about running 700mb cds in the drive but it only specs for 650mb. I don't think that is the problem because I installed 9.1 on these drives and they were 700mb. Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Dennis: There have been some reports on the club Forums about 9.2 killing LG drives and there is also some discussion at cooker. Take a look at the second posting here: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=v iewtopictopic=12989forum=10 -- cmg Thanks, Carroll, it appears that the bottom line is I have fried $40 worth of drives, my cost, and $60 worth of the dealers drives because of a nasty bug in 9.2. Some of the talk is about running 700mb cds in the drive but it only specs for 650mb. I don't think that is the problem because I installed 9.1 on these drives and they were 700mb. Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. Looks like I'll be skipping 9.2... :-( -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Perhaps the biggest disappointments were the ones you expected anyway. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Dennis: There have been some reports on the club Forums about 9.2 killing LG drives and there is also some discussion at cooker. Take a look at the second posting here: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=v iewtopictopic=12989forum=10 -- cmg So, what would be the course of action to deal with this. I am not willing to risk my CDRW, whatever the opinions on the quality of LG. Will Mandrake be issuing a new edition for download that has been tested *not* to hose people's hardware? How can something like this be corrected? -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Only that in you which is me can hear what I'm saying. -- Baba Ram Dass Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:37 pm, HaywireMac wrote: Will Mandrake be issuing a new edition for download that has been tested *not* to hose people's hardware? It's kernel issue, not just Mandrake's. Any distro usin 2.4.22 could mess up junk hardware. Go to kernel.org and look for the various hardware blacklists. Or don't buy junk to run Linux on. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:05:37 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: It's kernel issue, not just Mandrake's. Any distro usin 2.4.22 could mess up junk hardware. Go to kernel.org and look for the various hardware blacklists. Or don't buy junk to run Linux on. No probs with 9.1 or this burner *at all* in over 2 years of use. So hold off on the aspersions, eh, old man? -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Depart not from the path which fate has assigned you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:05:37 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: It's kernel issue, not just Mandrake's. Any distro usin 2.4.22 could mess up junk hardware. Go to kernel.org and look for the various hardware blacklists. Or don't buy junk to run Linux on. So all the people who have lost valuable hardware are just idiots who shouldn't have bought junk to run Linux on. Nice attitude, Tom, thanks for the input. -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife - chopping off what's incomplete and saying: Now it's complete because it's ended here. -- Muad'dib, Dune Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis: SNIP Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Plextor rocks. So does Teak Velo. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:48 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis: SNIP Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Plextor rocks. So does Teak Velo. Femme Yes, I like Plextor. BUT, when this first came up on the cooker list, the only drives involved were LG CDroms, at $19.95, that were mostly all blacklisted by kernel.org. It's not a widespread problem. Well, other than many Linux users not being aware that not all hardware is suitable for anything but Windoze. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
As a former tech support person for the evil empire I find this thread somewhat interesting. We used to say that software does not break hardware - then we had video card settings breaking monitors. Now we have Linux taking it to a new level LeRoy Duvall Linux user #258988 On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:48 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis: SNIP Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Plextor rocks. So does Teak Velo. Femme Yes, I like Plextor. BUT, when this first came up on the cooker list, the only drives involved were LG CDroms, at $19.95, that were mostly all blacklisted by kernel.org. It's not a widespread problem. Well, other than many Linux users not being aware that not all hardware is suitable for anything but Windoze. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:09 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:48 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis: SNIP Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Plextor rocks. So does Teak Velo. Femme Yes, I like Plextor. BUT, when this first came up on the cooker list, the only drives involved were LG CDroms, at $19.95, that were mostly all blacklisted by kernel.org. It's not a widespread problem. Well, other than many Linux users not being aware that not all hardware is suitable for anything but Windoze. I had never even heard of LG Electronics before this came up. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:09 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:48 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis: SNIP Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Plextor rocks. So does Teak Velo. Femme Yes, I like Plextor. BUT, when this first came up on the cooker list, the only drives involved were LG CDroms, at $19.95, that were mostly all blacklisted by kernel.org. It's not a widespread problem. Well, other than many Linux users not being aware that not all hardware is suitable for anything but Windoze. I had never even heard of LG Electronics before this came up. I'm surprised to see problems with LG drives. LG usually produce cheap, robust, OS-independent hardware - in fact they're the only hardware company I've seen mentioning Linux on the box. Sir Robin -- I declare this sentence a performative! Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 06:09 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:48 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis: SNIP Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Plextor rocks. So does Teak Velo. Femme Yes, I like Plextor. BUT, when this first came up on the cooker list, the only drives involved were LG CDroms, at $19.95, that were mostly all blacklisted by kernel.org. It's not a widespread problem. Well, other than many Linux users not being aware that not all hardware is suitable for anything but Windoze. Course not all of us monitor kernel.org. I have used the LG CDROMs and CD-RWs for a number of years with no problem. This is the first time it has been a problem. I was suspicious of the drives because they looked like they had cheapened them up even more. All I see locally are Sony, MadDog, and an occasional Pacific Digital. So looks like that leaves a search to insure that others available locally are not made by LG and rebranded. Buyer beware. Ones at CompUSA that appear to be better quality are still only $39.95 US. Good luck everyone. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:09 pm, robin wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:09 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:48 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis: SNIP Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Plextor rocks. So does Teak Velo. Femme Yes, I like Plextor. BUT, when this first came up on the cooker list, the only drives involved were LG CDroms, at $19.95, that were mostly all blacklisted by kernel.org. It's not a widespread problem. Well, other than many Linux users not being aware that not all hardware is suitable for anything but Windoze. I had never even heard of LG Electronics before this came up. I'm surprised to see problems with LG drives. LG usually produce cheap, robust, OS-independent hardware - in fact they're the only hardware company I've seen mentioning Linux on the box. Sir Robin Please note that the problem only seems to be with the CDROM drives, not CD-RW drives. The one I use now as master is a LG CD-RW 52x24x52x drive and it has no problems. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:42 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: I had never even heard of LG Electronics before this came up. I haven't been following this all that closely, but it seems that Compaq (for one) _has_ heard of LG, and shipped a whole bunch of them. Until I hear otherwise, God bless Mitsumi. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CDROM fails on detection
Wondering if anyone has run into this, I put a brand new (cheap $19.95 US) LG CDROM in the computer, a Gigabyte MB with Athlon 2000 cpu and DDR ram, and as soon as Mandrake harddrake detects it the drive light goes steady on and the drive will not work. At next boot up no light and no response the drive is dead. Took it back for exchange three times and same results. So I stick the old 24X sony CDROM back in and it works fine. I have no idea what is going on. The power supply is rock solid. Could there be a mobo problem? Any ideas? -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM takes minutes to mount
Still no joy. On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:31:40PM -0500, Miark wrote: Is autofs running? If so, try turning it off with drakxservices. Miark Is drakxservices the thing you get to turn services on and off from the MCC? If so, autofs wsa not even listed as something to turn on or off. It really seems as though the system is locking up for times varying from thirty seconds to over a minute now and then. Mounting a CD does eventually work (today I mounted an old OS/2 shareware CD flawlessly, except that it took four minutes). Now and then id does a read from the CD (as evidenced by the drive light), with *huge* time delays. I'm used to it doing a few reads in less than a second on the old SuSE system wtill running on the same hardware (dual boot, SuSE and Mandrake) and returning immediately afteward with a successful mount. So I wonder what could cause the delays. I sat and watched in boot Mandrake 9.0 today. The first noticeable delay was a minute and a half or so starting devFS demon. Id announces that it is starting the devFS demon, and about 90 seconds later (times without a clock) it announces success. The only other delays during boot are understandable timeouts:waiting for adsl to come up (the modem was off) and waiting to synchronize the clock (again, no net). Is ninety-seconds a normal time to take to start up devFS? Could startup delay with devFS be related to the slow CD mount problem? Is it possible to reconfigure to skip devFS somehow (I suspect not, but I'll ask anyway.) What does devFS do, anyway? -- hendrik On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:11:45 -0500 Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 05:45:19PM -0500, Miark wrote: It's simpler to type the following on the commandline as root: supermount disable Well, I did this. and to make it permanent: supermount -i disable And then I did this to make it permanent. Now it takes five and a half minutes to mount the second Mandrake 9.0 installation disk. The problem is still not fixed. Once mounted, however, ls /mnt/cdrom is nearly instantaeous, but ls /mnt/cdrom/Boot took 34 seconds. I unmounted, umount /mnt/cdrom and the umount finished in only 14 seconds. Presumably tht ls /mnt/cdrom could be satisfied from some cache or other, and didn't actually have to consult the CD. In case it is relevant (supermount seems to work by changing /etc/fstab), here's the contents of /etc/fstab: - cut here /dev/hdb8 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda8 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdd/mnt/cdrom iso9660 codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev,exec 0 0 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy vfat codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,iocharset=iso8859-15,nosuid,user,exec,nodev 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 /suse ext2defaults1 1 /dev/hdb11 /home2 ext2 defaults1 2 - cot here No mention of supermount anywhere. -- hendrik Miark On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:41:45 -0500 Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I solved this problem by disabling supermount on my removable drives.You can do this in the Mandrake Control Center - Mount Points. -CD Rom or Floppy - Options - supermount. -- Michael Shinobi Mandrake 9.0 http://lazyalfalfa.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM takes minutes to mount
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 05:45:19PM -0500, Miark wrote: It's simpler to type the following on the commandline as root: supermount disable Well, I did this. and to make it permanent: supermount -i disable And then I did this to make it permanent. Now it takes five and a half minutes to mount the second Mandrake 9.0 installation disk. The problem is still not fixed. Once mounted, however, ls /mnt/cdrom is nearly instantaeous, but ls /mnt/cdrom/Boot took 34 seconds. I unmounted, umount /mnt/cdrom and the umount finished in only 14 seconds. Presumably tht ls /mnt/cdrom could be satisfied from some cache or other, and didn't actually have to consult the CD. In case it is relevant (supermount seems to work by changing /etc/fstab), here's the contents of /etc/fstab: - cut here /dev/hdb8 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda8 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdd/mnt/cdrom iso9660 codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev,exec 0 0 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy vfat codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,iocharset=iso8859-15,nosuid,user,exec,nodev0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 /suse ext2defaults1 1 /dev/hdb11 /home2 ext2 defaults1 2 - cot here No mention of supermount anywhere. -- hendrik Miark On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:41:45 -0500 Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I solved this problem by disabling supermount on my removable drives.You can do this in the Mandrake Control Center - Mount Points. -CD Rom or Floppy - Options - supermount. -- Michael Shinobi Mandrake 9.0 http://lazyalfalfa.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM takes minutes to mount
I'm having probs also with mounting the CDROM even with supermount uncheked. Whenever I try I get nothing at all. It just wont read the CDROM! Tried typing the command as root to disable but it just comes back saying supermount: command not found Andrew Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM takes minutes to mount
Andrew Scotchmer wrote: I'm having probs also with mounting the CDROM even with supermount uncheked. Whenever I try I get nothing at all. It just wont read the CDROM! Tried typing the command as root to disable but it just comes back saying supermount: command not found Andrew try: /usr/sbin/supermount -i disable -- Alan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM takes minutes to mount
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 10:34:03PM +, Andrew Scotchmer wrote: I'm having probs also with mounting the CDROM even with supermount uncheked. Whenever I try I get nothing at all. It just wont read the CDROM! Tried typing the command as root to disable but it just comes back saying supermount: command not found Andrew Unfortunately, that isn't quite my problem. The supermount command seems to be executing OK, and I can get it to insert and delete supermounts properly in /etc/fstab. But is still takes ages to mount a CD. I even tried a reboot, so I would be *sure* that it used the entries in the fstab. -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM takes minutes to mount
On Tuesday 11 Mar 2003 10:40 pm, Alan Shoemaker wrote: /usr/sbin/supermount -i disable Thanks that Alan. Got rid of the supermount but I still cannot accesss my CDROM. Heres my /etc/fstab file for anyone interested: /dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom auto iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,ro,umask=0 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,iocharset=iso8859-15,nosuid,umask=0,user,nodev 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 Andrew Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CDROM takes minutes to mount
It takes a few minutes to mount a CDROM on my drive using Mandrake 9.0. This is too long. I have a dual-boot machine, choice of SuSE or Mandrake. There is no working Microsoft software on the machine. With SuSE it takes less than a second to mount the CDROM. I suspect very strongly that this is a software problem. While booting, I get the following relevant-looking messages: ... ... hdd: HL-DT-DT CD-ROM GCR-8520B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ... ... hdd: lost interrupt hdd: lost interrupt hdd: lost interrupt hdd: ATAPI 52x CD-ROM drive, 128kN Cache, DMA Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 ... ... I mount the CDROM (it happens to be the second Mandrake installation CD) with the following command: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom (except on SuSE I mount it on /cdrom instead of /mnt/cdrom. Oh yes, SuSE does not give me the lost interrupt messages either.) It then sits around for a few minutes, and finally comes back mounted. The Mandrake I use is the Mandrake PowerPack Edition 9.0, but during installation it would not look at any but the first installation CD. It also seems to have failed to install emacs. I encountered this problem while trying to add additional installation sources. Starting up the Mandrake Control Centre took more than four minutes. A little hard to understand if this is just a thin shell for launching other programs. Then it tales a long time to start up the sources manager, and finally, showing it the other CD's takes a long time. When I actually got the second installation CD mounted, I still dod not succeed in getting it to look at it. since (a) I can't figure out what I am to fill in as relative path to synthesis/hdlist. The manual just tells me that if I don't understand what it is talking about I will be wise to leave the window via cancel instead of save changes. and (b) Adding a source dies, and just leaves blank windows lying around forever. I suppose it might just be in suspended animation waiting for the CDROM drive, but leaving it that way overnight provides no progress. Experimentation and exploration is too tedious for words because of all the mount delays. Under the circumstance, the remainder of Mandrake is a little hard to install or configure! -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM takes minutes to mount
On Monday 10 March 2003 04:17 pm, Hendrik Boom wrote: It takes a few minutes to mount a CDROM on my drive using Mandrake 9.0. This is too long. I have a dual-boot machine, choice of SuSE or Mandrake. There is no working Microsoft software on the machine. With SuSE it takes less than a second to mount the CDROM. I suspect very strongly that this is a software problem. While booting, I get the following relevant-looking messages: ... ... hdd: HL-DT-DT CD-ROM GCR-8520B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ... ... hdd: lost interrupt hdd: lost interrupt hdd: lost interrupt hdd: ATAPI 52x CD-ROM drive, 128kN Cache, DMA Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 ... ... I mount the CDROM (it happens to be the second Mandrake installation CD) with the following command: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom (except on SuSE I mount it on /cdrom instead of /mnt/cdrom. Oh yes, SuSE does not give me the lost interrupt messages either.) It then sits around for a few minutes, and finally comes back mounted. The Mandrake I use is the Mandrake PowerPack Edition 9.0, but during installation it would not look at any but the first installation CD. It also seems to have failed to install emacs. I encountered this problem while trying to add additional installation sources. Starting up the Mandrake Control Centre took more than four minutes. A little hard to understand if this is just a thin shell for launching other programs. Then it tales a long time to start up the sources manager, and finally, showing it the other CD's takes a long time. When I actually got the second installation CD mounted, I still dod not succeed in getting it to look at it. since (a) I can't figure out what I am to fill in as relative path to synthesis/hdlist. The manual just tells me that if I don't understand what it is talking about I will be wise to leave the window via cancel instead of save changes. and (b) Adding a source dies, and just leaves blank windows lying around forever. I suppose it might just be in suspended animation waiting for the CDROM drive, but leaving it that way overnight provides no progress. Experimentation and exploration is too tedious for words because of all the mount delays. Under the circumstance, the remainder of Mandrake is a little hard to install or configure! -- hendrik I solved this problem by disabling supermount on my removable drives.You can do this in the Mandrake Control Center - Mount Points. -CD Rom or Floppy - Options - supermount. -- Michael Shinobi Mandrake 9.0 http://lazyalfalfa.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM takes minutes to mount
It's simpler to type the following on the commandline as root: supermount disable and to make it permanent: supermount -i disable Miark On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:41:45 -0500 Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I solved this problem by disabling supermount on my removable drives.You can do this in the Mandrake Control Center - Mount Points. -CD Rom or Floppy - Options - supermount. -- Michael Shinobi Mandrake 9.0 http://lazyalfalfa.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CDROM Lilo entry?
I noticed that there's a 'Boot from floppy' entry in lilo. Is there a way to add a 'Boot from CD' entry? I have an old laptop that can't boot from a CD. Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM troubles
Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Hi folks, sorry for the FAQ. But, I've read lots of howto's and tons of threads on the subject in various boards, and am more confused than when I started. The trouble is with my IDE CD-ROM burner. I'm not trying to burn at this point, just read data CDs reliably. Right now it's hit and miss. An example: ls /mnt/cdrom - I see the files. cp /mnt/cdrom/*.jpg /home/me/documents/ - Some files make it, some don't The ones that don't do they have long file names with gap's ? ls /mnt/cdrom - I see a list of files, but each says it's an invalid file or directory. I believe I need to switch to ide-scsi from ide-cd, but I'm not sure. Is there a simple way to get this working? The howto's I've read seem to require a mastery of Linux I just don't have. Info: Mandrake 9.0 cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.11a32 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.6' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) * 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) 'LITE-ON ' 'LTR-32123S ' 'XS0R' Removable CD-ROM 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * This is the same cdrw as one I have in a linux box and it works ok. more /etc/fstab /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 Looks ok to me.except that,mine reads, /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 why not try this, and see if it makes any difference What about /etc/lilo.conf append= hdc=ide-scsi I guess you have it since it would not show up on the bus if it didn't, but is it exactly right. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM troubles
Brandon Vanderberg wrote: On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 03:25, John Richard Smith wrote: Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Hi folks, sorry for the FAQ. But, I've read lots of howto's and tons of threads on the subject in various boards, and am more confused than when I started. The ones that don't do they have long file names with gap's ? I wish. No, in this case, it was a bunch of jpgs with short names. No directories. Now you see em, now you don't. Looks ok to me.except that,mine reads, /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 why not try this, and see if it makes any difference /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 I changed it to this shortly after I posted, and am able to copy now. I was told this disabled supermount. ??? I dunno, but it's been working so I've been doing the mount/umount thing and copying like crazy. I'll have to burn a cd and see if that works too. yes , that is correct , no supermount, not with scsi-emulation, don't work, at least not for me and many others, maybe you are lucky, but it's not much less to use auto mount , if on the command line you will have to mount /umount, if on desktop icon just leftmouseclick icon it automatically mounts, to unmount rightmouseclick down to either unmount or eject if eject it automatically unmounts before ejecting media. What about /etc/lilo.conf append= hdc=ide-scsi I guess you have it since it would not show up on the bus if it didn't, but is it exactly right. It's there. But thanks, didn't know where that was. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, this was driving me crazy. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
