Re: [newbie] Linux Driver Install Issues
On Saturday 24 Jan 2004 10:27 pm, Lexx wrote: X86 / 9.2 Trying to install a wireless USB dongle to connect my linux box to my LAN. (CNet 11Mbps WLAN USB adapter) Linux drivers included. I have a EtherExpress PRO/100 card installed. I get various errors when trying to unpack the folder including this in text: these files are glibc internal and may not match the currently running kernel. They should only be included via other system header files - user space programs should not directly include or as well To build kernel modules please do the following. Driver readme can be supplied on request. The readme was written for Linux kernel 2.4.19-16mdk, Mandrake 9 Thanks in advance Lexx And the name of the driver is? derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Driver Install Issues
X86 / 9.2 Trying to install a wireless USB dongle to connect my linux box to my LAN. (CNet 11Mbps WLAN USB adapter) Linux drivers included. I have a EtherExpress PRO/100 card installed. I get various errors when trying to unpack the folder including this in text: these files are glibc internal and may not match the currently running kernel. They should only be included via other system header files - user space programs should not directly include or as well To build kernel modules please do the following. Driver readme can be supplied on request. The readme was written for Linux kernel 2.4.19-16mdk, Mandrake 9 And the name of the driver is? derek CNet 11Mbps WLAN USB adapter Linux Driver USB Driver Version 2.1.2.1 X windows Application (xvnet) version 4.0.0.0 command line utility (lvnet) version 1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Driver Install Issues
On Saturday 24 Jan 2004 11:40 pm, Lexx wrote: X86 / 9.2 Trying to install a wireless USB dongle to connect my linux box to my LAN. (CNet 11Mbps WLAN USB adapter) Linux drivers included. I have a EtherExpress PRO/100 card installed. I get various errors when trying to unpack the folder including this in text: these files are glibc internal and may not match the currently running kernel. They should only be included via other system header files - user space programs should not directly include or as well To build kernel modules please do the following. Driver readme can be supplied on request. The readme was written for Linux kernel 2.4.19-16mdk, Mandrake 9 And the name of the driver is? derek CNet 11Mbps WLAN USB adapter Linux Driver USB Driver Version 2.1.2.1 X windows Application (xvnet) version 4.0.0.0 command line utility (lvnet) version 1.0 OK That is the atmelwlandriver The good news for you is that it is already installed in your Mandrake 9.2. The bad news is the lvnet and xvnet utilities you need to set it up is not installed. The other bad news is that that driver is a bit of a dog IMO But the other good news is that there is another driver which is easier to set up and more reliable. I have a page on setting it up here http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/atmel_92.html If you have trouble getting it working it may be possible that that manufacturer of your device is not known to the driver. In which case install the usbview package, and run KMenuConfigurationHardwareUsbview and let me know the manufacturer and product codes derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Driver Install Issues
On Sunday 25 Jan 2004 12:22 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 24 Jan 2004 11:40 pm, Lexx wrote: X86 / 9.2 Trying to install a wireless USB dongle to connect my linux box to my LAN. (CNet 11Mbps WLAN USB adapter) Linux drivers included. SNIP OK That is the atmelwlandriver The good news for you is that it is already installed in your Mandrake 9.2. The bad news is the lvnet and xvnet utilities you need to set it up is not installed. The other bad news is that that driver is a bit of a dog IMO But the other good news is that there is another driver which is easier to set up and more reliable. I have a page on setting it up here http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/atmel_92.html If you have trouble getting it working it may be possible that that manufacturer of your device is not known to the driver. In which case install the usbview package, and run KMenuConfigurationHardwareUsbview and let me know the manufacturer and product codes derek I took a look at the source code for the at76c503 driver and found that the CnetWUSB611 IS supported. It should have manufacturer code 0x1371 and product code 0x5743 So you should be able to get it working using the info on my web page. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux install
On Friday 16 January 2004 07:57 pm, jason pearl wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:14:55 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote IIRC you have tried 'linux noapic' when booting - if you haven't already done so, try linux noacpi. No, it's not the same, and at least one poster believes that to be the solution. /quote Correction - 'linux acpi=off' Anne In my experiences acpi comes off and apic is on... this is very chipset adn video card specific. what works for one motherboard does not necessarily work for other motherboards,,, experiment or know your hardware is the only answer so far.. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux install
- Original Message - From: Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] linux install On Monday 12 January 2004 11:10 am, P J Scott wrote: Dear list please help.I have a new computer with a asrock motherboard with american megatrends bios amibios (c)2003 k7s8x bios p1.90 acpi compliant bios. It has been said that i need to turn off pnp in my bios but I can`t find anywhere you can do it, this need to be switched off to enable me to intall linux, otherwise I cant... Philip At install time (if you haven't managed to install yet) Boot the install CD, press F!, and try 'linux nobiospnp' (w/o the quote marks) If you do have a working install, add nobiospnp to the append= line in /etc/lilo.conf, EG, append= devfs=mount nobiospnp You'll need to be root to do this, then run 'lilo'. Your append line probly has more entries, the above is just an example. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Thanks for this, I have tried booting with linux nobiospnp, it all went well untill part way through. Then the dredded mesage hda lost interupt...aaagg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux install
On Friday 16 January 2004 11:21 am, P J Scott wrote: At install time (if you haven't managed to install yet) Boot the install CD, press F!, and try 'linux nobiospnp' (w/o the quote marks) If you do have a working install, add nobiospnp to the append= line in /etc/lilo.conf, EG, append= devfs=mount nobiospnp You'll need to be root to do this, then run 'lilo'. Your append line probly has more entries, the above is just an example. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Thanks for this, I have tried booting with linux nobiospnp, it all went well untill part way through. Then the dredded mesage hda lost interupt...aaagg Then try 'nobiospnp acpi=off noapic' Both acpi and apic affect interrupt handling and resources, so you'll need to experiment to find which is the problem. The need for these options indicates deficient hardware ( motherboard/bios). For most system acpi is the problem. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux install
On Friday 16 January 2004 17:21, P J Scott wrote: Thanks for this, I have tried booting with linux nobiospnp, it all went well untill part way through. Then the dredded mesage hda lost interupt...aaagg I tried googling for 'lost interrupt' and was amazed how many threads popped up. A lot of them are concerned with laptops and suspend issues, so I presume they can be ruled out. IIRC you have tried 'linux noapic' when booting - if you haven't already done so, try linux noacpi. No, it's not the same, and at least one poster believes that to be the solution. Other solutions offered include Disabling dma - is this possible at bootup? Possibility of case cooling problem Possibility of dubious ribbon cable http://seclists.org/lists/linux-kernel/2003/Dec/6027.html reports that a firware fix sorted one problem out. Do any of these seem to fit Philip's case, I wonder? Clearly this is an issue that is reported in many distros, many versions. My gut feeling is that the last one may be relevant, as it's fairly recent, with new hardware and the 2.6 kernel. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable could look at the thread and comment? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux install
quote IIRC you have tried 'linux noapic' when booting - if you haven't already done so, try linux noacpi. No, it's not the same, and at least one poster believes that to be the solution. /quote Correction - 'linux acpi=off' Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux install
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:14:55 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote IIRC you have tried 'linux noapic' when booting - if you haven't already done so, try linux noacpi. No, it's not the same, and at least one poster believes that to be the solution. /quote Correction - 'linux acpi=off' Anne In my experiences acpi comes off and apic is on... -- jason pearl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ Keep your friends close and your enemies closer-Tupac ++ Kurrupted Visionz Phx, AZregistered linux user #307811 MDK 9.2 LinuxMachine# 193475, 227341 AMD64 Opteron 1.6http://counter.li.org ASUS SK8N uptime: 12:56:27 up 4 days, 18:17, 5 users, load average: 0.10, 0.70, 0.96 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] linux install
On Friday 16 January 2004 19:57, jason pearl wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:14:55 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote IIRC you have tried 'linux noapic' when booting - if you haven't already done so, try linux noacpi. No, it's not the same, and at least one poster believes that to be the solution. /quote Correction - 'linux acpi=off' Anne In my experiences acpi comes off and apic is on... Worth a try, then Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux install
On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 14:23, P J Scott wrote: Well the problem is this. I have a new computer and a new distro 9.2. When I try to install it all that happens is I get the message lost interupt over and over so have to abort installation . Anne thought it might be the pnp in my bios but like you say no way to turn it off. So basically im stuck...Philip I had Lost interrupt problem with 9.1. I sorted out placing the option noapic in the append line in lilo. HTH Adolfo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux to Windows porting
On Monday 12 January 2004 11:36 pm, vikrant joshi wrote: I have Windows and Linux on same machine . Is there a way I can acces the windows files eg word or excel file through Linux. Do we need to install any software for that . If yes then where do we get that software from You need to specify the version. Office XP files use a proprietary format that still hasn't been reverse engineered by OS developers, I think. Any previous version of Office should be trivial for OpenOffice, KOffice, as well as a number of other replacements. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux install
On Tuesday 13 January 2004 12:22, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 14:23, P J Scott wrote: Well the problem is this. I have a new computer and a new distro 9.2. When I try to install it all that happens is I get the message lost interupt over and over so have to abort installation . Anne thought it might be the pnp in my bios but like you say no way to turn it off. So basically im stuck...Philip I had Lost interrupt problem with 9.1. I sorted out placing the option noapic in the append line in lilo. Adolfo - he's not even getting it installed. I think he needs to pass noapic during the install. Can you tell him exactly how that's done? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux to Windows porting
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Monday 12 January 2004 11:36 pm, vikrant joshi wrote: I have Windows and Linux on same machine . Is there a way I can acces the windows files eg word or excel file through Linux. Do we need to install any software for that . If yes then where do we get that software from You need to specify the version. Office XP files use a proprietary format that still hasn't been reverse engineered by OS developers, I think. Any previous version of Office should be trivial for OpenOffice, KOffice, as well as a number of other replacements. AFAIK, OpenOffice will read Word XP files. Sir Robin -- The Pseudo Politically Correct term that I would use to describe the mind set of postmodernism is 'epistemologically challenged'. - Chip Morningstar Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux to Windows porting
On Tuesday 13 January 2004 09:02 am, robin wrote: Bryan Phinney wrote: On Monday 12 January 2004 11:36 pm, vikrant joshi wrote: I have Windows and Linux on same machine . Is there a way I can acces the windows files eg word or excel file through Linux. Do we need to install any software for that . If yes then where do we get that software from You need to specify the version. Office XP files use a proprietary format that still hasn't been reverse engineered by OS developers, I think. Any previous version of Office should be trivial for OpenOffice, KOffice, as well as a number of other replacements. AFAIK, OpenOffice will read Word XP files. My info may be dated. I am still on version 1.02 of Open Office and the last time I did some research, there were still some compatibility problems with some XP file formats. Version 1.1 is supposed to be fully compatible according to the website, but I am not running that version. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux to Windows porting
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Tuesday 13 January 2004 09:02 am, robin wrote: Bryan Phinney wrote: On Monday 12 January 2004 11:36 pm, vikrant joshi wrote: I have Windows and Linux on same machine . Is there a way I can acces the windows files eg word or excel file through Linux. Do we need to install any software for that . If yes then where do we get that software from You need to specify the version. Office XP files use a proprietary format that still hasn't been reverse engineered by OS developers, I think. Any previous version of Office should be trivial for OpenOffice, KOffice, as well as a number of other replacements. AFAIK, OpenOffice will read Word XP files. My info may be dated. I am still on version 1.02 of Open Office and the last time I did some research, there were still some compatibility problems with some XP file formats. Version 1.1 is supposed to be fully compatible according to the website, but I am not running that version. I'm using 1.1 and can read a variety of Word files - my students upload their essays, so I've had plenty of practice. I've had a few completely doolally files, but I suspect that was file-corruption at their end. There are a few glitches, e.g. objects or macros may not come out as intended, and I've had occasional problems with table margins, but 98% of Word docs come out fine in OO now. The other reason for upgrading to 1.1 is the one-click PDF export - very convenient! 1.1 only has one annoying bug/feature, which is that if you have a document open and open another document, the new document window is _behind_ the old one - weird! Sir Robin -- The Pseudo Politically Correct term that I would use to describe the mind set of postmodernism is 'epistemologically challenged'. - Chip Morningstar Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux to Windows porting
My info may be dated. I am still on version 1.02 of Open Office and the last time I did some research, there were still some compatibility problems with some XP file formats. Version 1.1 is supposed to be fully compatible according to the website, but I am not running that version.-- I have had no problem going from office xp to open office, or office xp to office 2000, but once i did have trouble going from office 2000 to open office. Anyway, the newer open office seems to be ok with XP. eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux install
On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 08:31, Anne Wilson wrote: Adolfo - he's not even getting it installed. I think he needs to pass noapic during the install. Can you tell him exactly how that's done? Anne Sorry I couldn't answer before. Here is a link that explains how to pass options during installation: http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/91/en/Quick_Startup.html/ch03s01.html So after getting the boot prompt, enter linux noapic HTH, Adolfo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux install
- Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MDK Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] linux install On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 08:31, Anne Wilson wrote: Adolfo - he's not even getting it installed. I think he needs to pass noapic during the install. Can you tell him exactly how that's done? Anne Sorry I couldn't answer before. Here is a link that explains how to pass options during installation: http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/91/en/Quick_Startup.html/ch03s01. html So after getting the boot prompt, enter linux noapic HTH, Adolfo Thanks for your help in this matter i will try again tomorrow, and let you know how i get on.. Thanks.. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux install
Well the problem is this. I have a new computer and a new distro 9.2. When I try to install it all that happens is I get the message lost interupt over and over so have to abort installation . Anne thought it might be the pnp in my bios but like you say no way to turn it off. So basically im stuck...Philip - Original Message - From: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] linux install Phillip; What happens with your install that is causing you some problems? For the record,I don't think there is an option on the Asrock boards to shut off PnP. Please send us details as to the problems. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/12/2004 at 5:10 PM P J Scott wrote: Dear list please help.I have a new computer with a asrock motherboard with american megatrends bios amibios (c)2003 k7s8x bios p1.90 acpi compliant bios. It has been said that i need to turn off pnp in my bios but I can`t find anywhere you can do it, this need to be switched off to enable me to intall linux, otherwise I cant... Philip Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux install
Phillip; Try moving some PCI devices into different PCI slots, and try assigning or un-assigning IRQ's to your AGP or Video, and/or USB devices. Also, try turning off anything that mentions USB. You can turn it back on later. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/12/2004 at 6:23 PM P J Scott wrote: Well the problem is this. I have a new computer and a new distro 9.2. When I try to install it all that happens is I get the message lost interupt over and over so have to abort installation . Anne thought it might be the pnp in my bios but like you say no way to turn it off. So basically im stuck...Philip - Original Message - From: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] linux install Phillip; What happens with your install that is causing you some problems? For the record,I don't think there is an option on the Asrock boards to shut off PnP. Please send us details as to the problems. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/12/2004 at 5:10 PM P J Scott wrote: Dear list please help.I have a new computer with a asrock motherboard with american megatrends bios amibios (c)2003 k7s8x bios p1.90 acpi compliant bios. It has been said that i need to turn off pnp in my bios but I can`t find anywhere you can do it, this need to be switched off to enable me to intall linux, otherwise I cant... Philip --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: Messages to Newbie Linux Group
Jeff, Thanks. How to get the messages to go through though is an odd thing. For every message I send I get an email from SYMPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking me to approve my own messages. After I have approved them via reply then they go through to the list. J. Kelley Jernigan On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 17:51, Jeff Gojkovich wrote: Messages are coming through. Are you sure they are not getting caught in an e-mail filter somewhere. The sending IP is 80.67.180.176 to whitelist. -- Jeff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux to Windows porting
I have Windows and Linux on same machine . Is there a way I can acces the windows files eg word or excel file through Linux. Do we need to install any software for that . If yes then where do we get that software from vikrant - Still single? Click here to find the perfect match. http://www.bharatmatrimony.com/cgi-bin/bmclicks1.cgi?141 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux to Windows porting
I have Windows and Linux on same machine . Is there a way I can acces the windows files eg word or excel file through Linux. If you just want to read them, no problem. It'll be setup when you install. If you want to write to them also, you will want them on a seperate FAT32 partition. eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux to Windows porting
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 03:25 pm, many eyes noted that Eric Huff wrote: I have Windows and Linux on same machine . Is there a way I can acces the windows files eg word or excel file through Linux. If you just want to read them, no problem. It'll be setup when you install. If you want to write to them also, you will want them on a seperate FAT32 partition. eric OpenOffice.org any version, but 1.1 is good -- Well you know what I knew, that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God, and his was an idol. --Lt. Gen Boykin This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Messages to Newbie Linux Group
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:57 am, many eyes noted that J. Kelley Jernigan wrote: Jeff, Thanks. How to get the messages to go through though is an odd thing. For every message I send I get an email from SYMPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking me to approve my own messages. After I have approved them via reply then they go through to the list. J. Kelley Jernigan On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 17:51, Jeff Gojkovich wrote: Messages are coming through. Are you sure they are not getting caught in an e-mail filter somewhere. The sending IP is 80.67.180.176 to whitelist. -- Jeff You're using a different email address? -- Well you know what I knew, that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God, and his was an idol. --Lt. Gen Boykin This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux behind proxy
Hi people, i have installed Mandrake 9.2 and i need to use the internet access over the network. A server on the net is administrating the internet over a proxy server, and i wath to connect with it, but i can't find where to especify the port of connection. At the internet options there are an option to specifi the addresses for the http and ftp but there are no option to specify the port to use with it. Have some one any idea...??? tnx. Cdrack. __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux behind proxy
If you use Mozilla, go to Edit-Preferences, and within the popup window of Preferences, click Advanced, then you will find option proxies among advanced options. Click it. Other web browser should be more or less the same. - Original Message - From: cdrack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: [newbie] Linux behind proxy Hi people, i have installed Mandrake 9.2 and i need to use the internet access over the network. A server on the net is administrating the internet over a proxy server, and i wath to connect with it, but i can't find where to especify the port of connection. At the internet options there are an option to specifi the addresses for the http and ftp but there are no option to specify the port to use with it. Have some one any idea...??? tnx. Cdrack. __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux behind proxy
I've never had much luck with MDK's internet connection wizards, I find it easier to configure by hand. There are various places where to configure the proxy. For Mozilla, you go to the Edit-Preferences-Advanced-proxy and specify there the name and port of the proxy. I guess there's something similar for Galeon/Konqueror etc. For command line programs like wget/lftp you set up some shell environment variables, like ftp_proxy=http://proxy username:proxy password@proxy.name:port number (my proxy allows only ftp over http, that's why I have http there). You can put these entries in your .bashrc configuration file. I can be more precise if you need. raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi people, i have installed Mandrake 9.2 and i need to use the internet access over the network. A server on the net is administrating the internet over a proxy server, and i wath to connect with it, but i can't find where to especify the port of connection. At the internet options there are an option to specifi the addresses for the http and ftp but there are no option to specify the port to use with it. Have some one any idea...??? tnx. Cdrack. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux behind proxy
you are rigth with the browser thing but the mail client like evolution or kmail, doesn't have this option to put on. --- Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never had much luck with MDK's internet connection wizards, I find it easier to configure by hand. There are various places where to configure the proxy. For Mozilla, you go to the Edit-Preferences-Advanced-proxy and specify there the name and port of the proxy. I guess there's something similar for Galeon/Konqueror etc. For command line programs like wget/lftp you set up some shell environment variables, like ftp_proxy=http://proxy username:proxy password@proxy.name:port number (my proxy allows only ftp over http, that's why I have http there). You can put these entries in your .bashrc configuration file. I can be more precise if you need. raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi people, i have installed Mandrake 9.2 and i need to use the internet access over the network. A server on the net is administrating the internet over a proxy server, and i wath to connect with it, but i can't find where to especify the port of connection. At the internet options there are an option to specifi the addresses for the http and ftp but there are no option to specify the port to use with it. Have some one any idea...??? tnx. Cdrack. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux-out to lunch
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:35:43 -0500 Mike Adolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After I rebooted, it got the same error, THE PERMISSONS WERE SET BACK TO ORIGINAL VALUES!! That's msec in action: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/secure/smsec.html Linux isn't out to lunch, it's protecting you from yourself. Having the perms 777 is inherantly dangerous, the degree of danger depending on your security setup and situation. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways. The point, however, is to change it.-- Karl Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux-out to lunch
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:35:43 -0500 Mike Adolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added a second user using userdrake. When I tried to logon to the new account. I get No Write Permission on HOME KDE can't start. SO, although the new home has the same permissions as my home, I change the permission to 777 on new HOME. Tried to log on again (without rebooting), and it worked. I thought, OK problem solved. Wrong! After I rebooted, it got the same error, THE PERMISSONS WERE SET BACK TO ORIGINAL VALUES!! I repeated the chmod again just to make sure I wasn't nuts. I wasn't. I opened userdrake and it had the userid = 500 and groupid = 500. BUT doing an ls -l on /home shows that the new home has user and group both 502 BTW, were the two usernames the same? I've never tried to create two users with the same name, I'm not sure how the system would react with that. I've certainly never run into this problem creating a new user with a *different* name before. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Behind every great fortune is a crime. -- Balzac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux-out to lunch
On Sunday 30 Nov 2003 12:28 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:35:43 -0500 Mike Adolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added a second user using userdrake. When I tried to logon to the new account. I get No Write Permission on HOME KDE can't start. SO, although the new home has the same permissions as my home, I change the permission to 777 on new HOME. Tried to log on again (without rebooting), and it worked. I thought, OK problem solved. Wrong! After I rebooted, it got the same error, THE PERMISSONS WERE SET BACK TO ORIGINAL VALUES!! I repeated the chmod again just to make sure I wasn't nuts. I wasn't. I opened userdrake and it had the userid = 500 and groupid = 500. BUT doing an ls -l on /home shows that the new home has user and group both 502 BTW, were the two usernames the same? I've never tried to create two users with the same name, I'm not sure how the system would react with that. I've certainly never run into this problem creating a new user with a *different* name before. I'm coming in a bit late here, but can I assume the Original Poster reinstalled their system without reformatting their /home? When you do that it is important to add the users in precisely the same order or else the user will have a different UID/GID and will not own their own home directory. The installer will add users beginning with UID 501, but userdrake will add a user starting from UID 500 The solution is not to change the perms to 777, but to change the UID/GID on all the folders in /home derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux-out to lunch
On Sunday 30 November 2003 08:08 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Sunday 30 Nov 2003 12:28 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:35:43 -0500 Mike Adolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added a second user using userdrake. When I tried to logon to the new account. I get No Write Permission on HOME KDE can't start. SO, although the new home has the same permissions as my home, I change the permission to 777 on new HOME. Tried to log on again (without rebooting), and it worked. I thought, OK problem solved. Wrong! After I rebooted, it got the same error, THE PERMISSONS WERE SET BACK TO ORIGINAL VALUES!! I repeated the chmod again just to make sure I wasn't nuts. I wasn't. I opened userdrake and it had the userid = 500 and groupid = 500. BUT doing an ls -l on /home shows that the new home has user and group both 502 BTW, were the two usernames the same? I've never tried to create two users with the same name, I'm not sure how the system would react with that. I've certainly never run into this problem creating a new user with a *different* name before. I'm coming in a bit late here, but can I assume the Original Poster reinstalled their system without reformatting their /home? When you do that it is important to add the users in precisely the same order or else the user will have a different UID/GID and will not own their own home directory. The installer will add users beginning with UID 501, but userdrake will add a user starting from UID 500 The solution is not to change the perms to 777, but to change the UID/GID on all the folders in /home derek derek, You hit the nail on the head! Long, long time ago when I first installed MDK, I set up a second user for my wife. However, she wanted nothing to to with linux. Since then, it was necessary to reinstall linux (no reformatting) and I only created one user. Now that our windows half is down, waiting on a new modem, she thinks linux might me OK for getting her mail. So, I used userdrake to set up a second user by the same original name; and I thought the home directory was just created then. Wrong. It was the old one from before with a UID=502 (as expected since done on an install). Anyway, I just trashed the directory and made a new user using userdrake. It used UID= 500. All is well. I do feel that the different numbering schems should be cleared up in the next release. Thanks, mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux-out to lunch
On Sunday 30 November 2003 04:25 am, JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:35:43 -0500 Mike Adolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After I rebooted, it got the same error, THE PERMISSONS WERE SET BACK TO ORIGINAL VALUES!! That's msec in action: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/secure/smsec.html Linux isn't out to lunch, it's protecting you from yourself. Having the perms 777 is inherantly dangerous, the degree of danger depending on your security setup and situation. True, but sometimes you may want a directory with perms 777(NOT your /home though--ever). The problem is, msec, in its wisdom, and with its mission to protect you from yourself, will reset the permissions. If you know what you are doing, and actually want these permissions you can either edit a perms.local file, or turn off msec. How do you turn off msec? Actually, the easiest way is to go to /usr/sbin/msec and rename the executable to DISABLEmsec. Presto! msec will not change permissions again. And, to re-enable the little sucker, just rename the executable back to msec. I am no fan of msec, obviously. erylon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux-out to lunch
On Sunday 30 November 2003 19:29, E. Hines wrote: On Sunday 30 November 2003 04:25 am, JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:35:43 -0500 Mike Adolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After I rebooted, it got the same error, THE PERMISSONS WERE SET BACK TO ORIGINAL VALUES!! That's msec in action: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/secure/smsec.html Linux isn't out to lunch, it's protecting you from yourself. Having the perms 777 is inherantly dangerous, the degree of danger depending on your security setup and situation. True, but sometimes you may want a directory with perms 777(NOT your /home though--ever). The problem is, msec, in its wisdom, and with its mission to protect you from yourself, will reset the permissions. If you know what you are doing, and actually want these permissions you can either edit a perms.local file, or turn off msec. How do you turn off msec? Actually, the easiest way is to go to /usr/sbin/msec and rename the executable to DISABLEmsec. Presto! msec will not change permissions again. And, to re-enable the little sucker, just rename the executable back to msec. I am no fan of msec, obviously. erylon On the other hand, msec is very handy when having multiple users on the same system, say a whole family, and you want every member to have a little privacy. Setting msec to high will accomplish this. Then again, it is often practical to have a partition in common. For example family photo albums etc.. Or for those people who still dual-boot with another OS it is a convenience to have a FAT32 partition around. Now, instead of messing around with permissions like 777, which msec in high position will change soon, it is much easier to edit the fstab with the option : umask=0. Of course, that's only valid for a partition, not a directory. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- ** Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer ** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux-out to lunch
Mike Adolf wrote: On Sunday 30 November 2003 08:08 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Sunday 30 Nov 2003 12:28 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:35:43 -0500 Mike Adolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added a second user using userdrake. When I tried to logon to the new account. I get No Write Permission on HOME KDE can't start. SO, although the new home has the same permissions as my home, I change the permission to 777 on new HOME. Tried to log on again (without rebooting), and it worked. I thought, OK problem solved. Wrong! After I rebooted, it got the same error, THE PERMISSONS WERE SET BACK TO ORIGINAL VALUES!! I repeated the chmod again just to make sure I wasn't nuts. I wasn't. I opened userdrake and it had the userid = 500 and groupid = 500. BUT doing an ls -l on /home shows that the new home has user and group both 502 BTW, were the two usernames the same? I've never tried to create two users with the same name, I'm not sure how the system would react with that. I've certainly never run into this problem creating a new user with a *different* name before. I'm coming in a bit late here, but can I assume the Original Poster reinstalled their system without reformatting their /home? When you do that it is important to add the users in precisely the same order or else the user will have a different UID/GID and will not own their own home directory. The installer will add users beginning with UID 501, but userdrake will add a user starting from UID 500 The solution is not to change the perms to 777, but to change the UID/GID on all the folders in /home derek derek, You hit the nail on the head! Long, long time ago when I first installed MDK, I set up a second user for my wife. However, she wanted nothing to to with linux. Since then, it was necessary to reinstall linux (no reformatting) and I only created one user. Now that our windows half is down, waiting on a new modem, she thinks linux might me OK for getting her mail. So, I used userdrake to set up a second user by the same original name; and I thought the home directory was just created then. Wrong. It was the old one from before with a UID=502 (as expected since done on an install). Anyway, I just trashed the directory and made a new user using userdrake. It used UID= 500. All is well. I do feel that the different numbering schems should be cleared up in the next release. In similar situations, I've found something like chown -R fred /home/fred to work. In fact, if you're dealing with lots of users, you could probably write a script to do it automatically. Sir Robin -- Certitude is possible for those who only own one encyclopedia. - Robert Anton Wilson Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux VS Windows virus Vulnerability
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:38:25 -0800 Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is from a Win list. All above my head. Any truth to it? None whatsoever. No one with any experience in security and who has not been bought off my MS seriously believes that Windows is *anywhere near* as secure as Linux or any of the Unix variants. Whoever wrote this has absolutely no idea what they are talking about. My favourite part: You can hack the user's 'PATH' and plant a bunch of trojans and hope you can sucker the user into typing 'su' 1. How the hell could you hack the users PATH if you cannot gain access in the first place with one of the millions of mind-blowingly trivial exploits like MS-Blaster or other worms? 2. Notice that the writer uses the word hope, ie. compromising a Linux system *requires the participation of the user*, whereas the same is not true on Windows. For more info on this: http://securityfocus.com/columnists/188 http://www.ccianet.org/papers/cyberinsecurity.pdf The idea that script kiddies will find ways to exploit *nix systems as they become more popular on the desktop is a myth, and the people that spout this garbage usually have a serious case of OS Envy. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Athens built the Acropolis. Corinth was a commercial city, interested in purely materialistic things. Today we admire Athens, visit it, preserve the old temples, yet we hardly ever set foot in Corinth.-- Dr. Harold Urey, Nobel Laureate in chemistry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux VS Windows virus Vulnerability
On Saturday 29 November 2003 08:38 pm, Russ wrote: Hi All, This is from a Win list. All above my head. Any truth to it? Given that a lot of virus writers and malicious hackers are in it purely for the bragging rights and given that any successful mainstream virus or exploit on Linux systems would give much bigger bragging rights than a similar exploit on Windows, if it was easy to do, it would have been done. People speaking about security and telling you how easy it is to do something that they have not managed to do should be proof enough that the wind that they are blowing is not coming out of their mouths. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] linux-out to lunch
Sometimes linux looses it. I added a second user using userdrake. When I tried to logon to the new account. I get No Write Permission on HOME KDE can't start. SO, although the new home has the same permissions as my home, I change the permission to 777 on new HOME. Tried to log on again (without rebooting), and it worked. I thought, OK problem solved. Wrong! After I rebooted, it got the same error, THE PERMISSONS WERE SET BACK TO ORIGINAL VALUES!! I repeated the chmod again just to make sure I wasn't nuts. I wasn't. I opened userdrake and it had the userid = 500 and groupid = 500. BUT doing an ls -l on /home shows that the new home has user and group both 502 Linux has almost defeated me! mike. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux-out to lunch
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:35 pm, many eyes noted that Mike Adolf wrote: Sometimes linux looses it. I added a second user using userdrake. When I tried to logon to the new account. I get No Write Permission on HOME KDE can't start. SO, although the new home has the same permissions as my home, I change the permission to 777 on new HOME. Tried to log on again (without rebooting), and it worked. I thought, OK problem solved. Wrong! After I rebooted, it got the same error, THE PERMISSONS WERE SET BACK TO ORIGINAL VALUES!! I repeated the chmod again just to make sure I wasn't nuts. I wasn't. I opened userdrake and it had the userid = 500 and groupid = 500. BUT doing an ls -l on /home shows that the new home has user and group both 502 Linux has almost defeated me! mike. try chown -cv mike: /home/mike or whatever it is supposed to be*** See how that works? Charlie -- And all the loveliest things that there be Come simply, so it seems to me. Edna St. Vincent Millay This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux VS Windows virus Vulnerability
Hello Russ, Saturday, November 29, 2003, 5:38:25 PM, you wrote: R Hi All, R This is from a Win list. All above my head. Any truth to it? R Thanks R Russ R [I suspect almost no Unix users know how to properly configure R IPchains to prevent a random process from accessing the network R improperly]. Ask him how to do it. I'd like to do that too. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
On Wednesday 19 Nov 2003 2:45 pm, Tango Echo wrote: -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up ! On Friday 14 Nov 2003 9:09 pm, Lanman wrote: T.E. - I signed up for Twiki, Finally! Now what to I do for entering information, and how many can I put in? That's the beauty of TWiki - if you feel that it fits, it goes in! I'm looking forward to what arrives. Come on, everyone. Get your entry in there. Anne -- Anne, how do we branch off from the main index page? For example, how do we make the industy links on the left lead some place where people can post info? Thanks, Tango Eacho You don't want/need to branch off the main index page, Tango. Once a page is created the system offers it as though it were a Main/newpage entry - it's all automatic. To start a new page for MyCompanyInc it's easiest to open up for editing your own page. Simply create a TWiki word (MyCompanyInc) and save. You will then see MyCompanyInc with an underlined question mark after it. Click on the question mark and the new page will be created. Two more steps - When you have saved it, it will look to the index as though it is branched from your own page, so to change that, look on the bottom blue bar (where you find Edit) and the right-hand entry is More. Click on there, and an inch or two down you will see the place where you can change the parentage. Set its parent to be the main Business page, and it will show up on the Index in the correct place. Finally, go back to your own page and delete the entry you made to start the page. I don't think you'll have problems, but come back if you do. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
On Wednesday 19 Nov 2003 2:54 pm, Tango Echo wrote: -Original Message- From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up ! On Monday 10 November 2003 11:50 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Just curious about something. How many of the list members are using Linux in the workplace and how? I think it would be encouraging to see who's doing what with it, and which distro's, whether they're seeing an increase in business because of Linux and what interesting things they're doing with Linux. Unfortunately, some of us cannot proclaim this information because we will be told to stop using it. Unfortunately, arbitrary rules still hold more sway than common sense in Corporate America. If the President knew he was getting his e-mail through a Linux server he'd shit a brick. :-) : -- /g Greg, that's the point of this new page =). While the bizcases site is more business related, the bizuser site will let you post tech info anonymously. Please, all of you, don't let the red tape hold you back from posting help to other Linux users. Like I just mentioned, anonymous posting to the site is completely fine. If you just mention something basic about the company such as an accounting firm in Florida or a bank on planet earth that should be enough info. Business details are nice but they are not the main purpose of this page... In my reply to Tango's previous question I implied using the company name, but he's absolutely right - it's not necessary. The page will help and encourage those trying to sell the idea, giving them real examples of situations that can be used to help people understand the possibilities. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
--- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can set up a page for you, containing the single word 'placeholder', on which you can build, if that would help. For any potential contributors who don't want to learn the few simple formatting commands, they can use html tags instead. Just let me know if you want me to start it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Sounds like a plan, Anne. Just let me know where this 'placeholder' is and I'll try to get something started... Thanks, Tango __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
On Friday 14 Nov 2003 2:50 pm, Tango Echo wrote: --- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can set up a page for you, containing the single word 'placeholder', on which you can build, if that would help. For any potential contributors who don't want to learn the few simple formatting commands, they can use html tags instead. Just let me know if you want me to start it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Sounds like a plan, Anne. Just let me know where this 'placeholder' is and I'll try to get something started... http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/BusinessUser Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
T.E. - I signed up for Twiki, Finally! Now what to I do for entering information, and how many can I put in? Read your post back to Anne, but I don't agree with you about the worth of this page. I think it's great! The most significant reason for this is because this will be a list of scenarios by list members, who are significantly more accessible than many of the ones on the MandrakeBizCases site, some of whom don't work at those companies anymore, and a huge bunch that will never answer requests for help or advice. While those are good refernece points ( the Bizcases ) about how wide-spread Mandrake is being deployed, it doesn't give a lot of particulars about the hardware, configurations, problems and solutions, etc. Because of that alone, this site will be better, but like any new site, it will take some time to catch on. List-members should be reminded and encouraged to input their information onto the site regarding their situations and solutions, Tips and Tricks, etc. As you and the whole list are aware, the members are global. That means different time zones. So, for example, if Stephen is asleep ( or if Joe Hill is filtering everybody! Sorry Joe, I just couldn't resist! Grin! ), and I have a similar problem to what they had, I can look up their submissions to see how they solved it. That also saves me from having to wake them up, or wait for an answer that I need right now ( assuming that they'd let me wake them up! Grin! ). See what I mean? The thing to remember is that this is payback for all those Glory Days when we were considered crazy, eccentric ( or as I prefer to think of all Linux enthusiasts - Bleeding Edge ), computer nerds. Now that Linux is gaining a lot of popularity, lists like this one will become very popular. Sort of a Non-Profit, Open-Sourced version of Bill Gates! And we get to give them the BIG - I.T.Y.S. ( I TOLD YOU SO !). Like the man said,...PAYBACK'S A BIATCH! We'll be the initial entry-point for an ever-increasing amount of newbies, and we'll be considered Linux Gurus ( I hope I didn't make that sound too sarcastic? Grin!). If the type of information this list offers is superior to other distro's ( Please begin flame wars AFTER I have left the building! ), we'll be well on our way to ,...wait for it, WORLD DOMINATION!! And really, isn't that what we're all striving for? Grin! Grin! Sorry for all the Capital Letters everyone. They're just in here for emphasis. Please forward all complaints to /dev/null ! Anyway, keep the good ideas coming! My rant ends here. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 11/14/2003 at 11:24 AM Tango Echo wrote: --- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 14 Nov 2003 2:50 pm, Tango Echo wrote: Sounds like a plan, Anne. Just let me know where this 'placeholder' is and I'll try to get something started... http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/BusinessUser Anne Ok, I threw something up on that location. I wasn't able to add the industry pages because I don't know how to branch off from the main index page. After more thoroughly browsing the extensive mandrakebizcases site, I'm begining to doubt the worth of this Twiki page. I suppose a couple advantages to the Twiki page is that it is an open forum that maximizes exchange of information and we can have a more technical direction. You were pretty much the only feedback for this page, and I do appreciate it! Should I assume everyone else was silent because they didn't read the thread or simply agreed with you? Just trying to avoid any redundant work/information here, and make sure the community agrees with us... I'm open to more ideas and discussion as to how we can turn this into a mandrakebizcases enhancment instead of a mandrakebizcases rehash! If this isnt possible, might as well axe it while it's young. Tango __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
On Friday 14 Nov 2003 7:24 pm, Tango Echo wrote: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/BusinessUser Anne Ok, I threw something up on that location. I wasn't able to add the industry pages because I don't know how to branch off from the main index page. After more thoroughly browsing the extensive mandrakebizcases site, I'm begining to doubt the worth of this Twiki page. I suppose a couple advantages to the Twiki page is that it is an open forum that maximizes exchange of information and we can have a more technical direction. You were pretty much the only feedback for this page, and I do appreciate it! Should I assume everyone else was silent because they didn't read the thread or simply agreed with you? Just trying to avoid any redundant work/information here, and make sure the community agrees with us... I'm open to more ideas and discussion as to how we can turn this into a mandrakebizcases enhancment instead of a mandrakebizcases rehash! If this isnt possible, might as well axe it while it's young. I've seen it, and added a comment as to how I envisage it. Perhaps now those that have already commented in this thread would like to add their 2p-worth? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
On Friday 14 Nov 2003 9:09 pm, Lanman wrote: T.E. - I signed up for Twiki, Finally! Now what to I do for entering information, and how many can I put in? That's the beauty of TWiki - if you feel that it fits, it goes in! I'm looking forward to what arrives. Come on, everyone. Get your entry in there. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
On Monday 10 November 2003 11:50 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Just curious about something. How many of the list members are using Linux in the workplace and how? I think it would be encouraging to see who's doing what with it, and which distro's, whether they're seeing an increase in business because of Linux and what interesting things they're doing with Linux. Unfortunately, some of us cannot proclaim this information because we will be told to stop using it. Unfortunately, arbitrary rules still hold more sway than common sense in Corporate America. If the President knew he was getting his e-mail through a Linux server he'd shit a brick. :-) -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux in Thailand
I have just installed LM9.1 on my system at home and have set up accounts for my kids. This way they can learn it the same time I am... Family time. The way I see it, there's no time like now to get them used to working with the future of things. By the way, we are home-schoolers and they will be getting plenty of exposure to Linux =:0) They will be learning more about MS in their history class. lol ToddM -Original Message- From: Kevin B. O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux in Thailand At 04:44 PM 11/12/2003, Merlin Zener said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): http://www.linuxinsider.com/perl/story/32110.html just thought a few ppl here might be slightly interested :) It was interesting, and it echoes something I have been saying. The conventional wisdom is that Linux is only for the most experienced PC users, and that people who are new to computers should stick to Windows. I have maintained that the opposite is true now: the experienced users will have problems because it isn't what they are used to, but newbies will do fine. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User #333216 Information is not knowledge, Knowledge is not wisdom, Wisdom is not truth, Truth is not beauty, Beauty is not love, Love is not music, Music is THE BEST -- Frank Zappa Help fight SPAM. Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
On Thursday 13 Nov 2003 1:19 pm, Tango Echo wrote: --- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 1:49 pm, Tango Echo wrote: The Twiki suggestion is great. One addition to it may be more of an industry HOWTO. For example, people could post HOWTOs that pertain to their industry. Weather its government, insurance, production, retail, or something else, each industry has its own specific needs from the software it uses. Even if it's just a list of apps they use, it would give people a good idea where to start and what tool(s) is recommended for the job. Add some contact info for each bizcase/howto and you have a rather powerful tool for Windows to Linux migrations =). (I'm actually still in search of the Win to Lin migration myself) Brilliant idea, Tango. Anyone care to start us off? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? I wouldn't even know where to begin for creating the page on Twiki - only posted one item there so far. It was just a quick how to instead of an entire index page... But once we have the page set up, perhaps a mass invite to those individuals on the bizcase site would be a good way to pull in some starter info? If nothing else, we could ask them what they use for apps and if they would like to contribute any advice or HOWTOs... Any suggestions or advice here? Let's keep this going! I can set up a page for you, containing the single word 'placeholder', on which you can build, if that would help. For any potential contributors who don't want to learn the few simple formatting commands, they can use html tags instead. Just let me know if you want me to start it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 11:01 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: At 01:56 PM 11/12/2003, Anne Wilson said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): And don't forget to tell them that all support/updates/fixes for 98 have ceased. Ummm...No. They just released fixes for Win98 again. I have to admit I didn't check - but they announced End of Life some time ago, so I assumed that it kicked in before now. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in Thailand
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 9:44 pm, Merlin Zener wrote: http://www.linuxinsider.com/perl/story/32110.html just thought a few ppl here might be slightly interested :) Very interesting. And it bears out what I have always held true - the M$ way is only 'intuitive' if you have been a M$ user. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
Tony S. Sykes wrote: Robin, I am sure that they must have checked their licence's and found out they hadn't got any newer one's than 98. Can't think of any other reason. You can put your pen (mightier than the sword) down and hopefully not have to fight when you explain that it does not cost a penny. I checked with the head of the computer centre and it looks like it was just a case of some managemers in the School of English getting the wrong end of the stick. There is apparently no official university policy, but the computer centre strongly advise against any _Windows_ other than Win98. The reason is that people install XP, don't patch it and leave vulnerable services running with no protection. Then the thing gets wormy and goes down, and the poor techies have to go and fix it. As for attitudes to Linux, a lot of the low-level techies don't like it because they don't understand it; the sysadmins are all using Linux anyway! Sir Robin Tony. -Original Message- From: Robin Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up ! Lanman wrote: Just curious about something. How many of the list members are using Linux in the workplace and how? I think it would be encouraging to see who's doing what with it, and which distro's, whether they're seeing an increase in business because of Linux and what interesting things they're doing with Linux. I'm using Linux at work in a university department for the usual office stuff and as a local FTP server (though I seem to be the only person who makes much use of this). I use LyX for my own academic writing and OpenOffice for correcting/commenting on student papers (I've set up a series of styles and macros for this, which makes it a lot easier). However, my boss has just informed me that there is a new policy requiring all teachers to use Windows 98. War may be declared. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Certitude is possible for those who only own one encyclopedia. - Robert Anton Wilson Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
-Original Message- From: Lanman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up ! Just curious about something. How many of the list members are using Linux in the workplace and how? I think it would be encouraging to see who's doing what with it, and which distro's, whether they're seeing an increase in business because of Linux and what interesting things they're doing with Linux. It might prove to be an interesting source of information for newbie's to know what can be done with Linux, especially when it's applied in a production environment. We see all kinds of articles regarding Linux, but it's very hard to contact those people to see how something was done, and what Tips 'n' Tricks were used to accomplish a particular task. MandrakeSoft has a special site (http://www.mandrakebizcases.com ), that allows anyone to post their particular application of Linux, but for the most part you can't get the hands-on info from those companies or individuals. Is this something we could/should add to the Twiki site? Comments? Lanman site? Comments? Lanman You're probably already aware lanman, but I'll say it for everyone to hear... I currently have one MNF box on one of our sites that performs firewalling, IDS, and WebProxy. I'd be lying if I said it's been flawless, but I must also admit the problems have come from my lack of admin knowledge. Still, the problems have been quite minimal and I believe it's at a point where you plug it in and forget about it... The Twiki suggestion is great. One addition to it may be more of an industry HOWTO. For example, people could post HOWTOs that pertain to their industry. Weather its government, insurance, production, retail, or something else, each industry has its own specific needs from the software it uses. Even if it's just a list of apps they use, it would give people a good idea where to start and what tool(s) is recommended for the job. Add some contact info for each bizcase/howto and you have a rather powerful tool for Windows to Linux migrations =). (I'm actually still in search of the Win to Lin migration myself) Tango __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 1:49 pm, Tango Echo wrote: The Twiki suggestion is great. One addition to it may be more of an industry HOWTO. For example, people could post HOWTOs that pertain to their industry. Weather its government, insurance, production, retail, or something else, each industry has its own specific needs from the software it uses. Even if it's just a list of apps they use, it would give people a good idea where to start and what tool(s) is recommended for the job. Add some contact info for each bizcase/howto and you have a rather powerful tool for Windows to Linux migrations =). (I'm actually still in search of the Win to Lin migration myself) Brilliant idea, Tango. Anyone care to start us off? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
Lanman wrote: Just curious about something. How many of the list members are using Linux in the workplace and how? I think it would be encouraging to see who's doing what with it, and which distro's, whether they're seeing an increase in business because of Linux and what interesting things they're doing with Linux. I'm using Linux at work in a university department for the usual office stuff and as a local FTP server (though I seem to be the only person who makes much use of this). I use LyX for my own academic writing and OpenOffice for correcting/commenting on student papers (I've set up a series of styles and macros for this, which makes it a lot easier). However, my boss has just informed me that there is a new policy requiring all teachers to use Windows 98. War may be declared. Sir Robin -- The other major kind of computer is the Apple, which I do not recommend, because it is a wuss-o-rama New-Age computer that you basically just plug in and use. - Dave Barry Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
Robin, I am sure that they must have checked their licence's and found out they hadn't got any newer one's than 98. Can't think of any other reason. You can put your pen (mightier than the sword) down and hopefully not have to fight when you explain that it does not cost a penny. Tony. -Original Message- From: Robin Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up ! Lanman wrote: Just curious about something. How many of the list members are using Linux in the workplace and how? I think it would be encouraging to see who's doing what with it, and which distro's, whether they're seeing an increase in business because of Linux and what interesting things they're doing with Linux. I'm using Linux at work in a university department for the usual office stuff and as a local FTP server (though I seem to be the only person who makes much use of this). I use LyX for my own academic writing and OpenOffice for correcting/commenting on student papers (I've set up a series of styles and macros for this, which makes it a lot easier). However, my boss has just informed me that there is a new policy requiring all teachers to use Windows 98. War may be declared. Sir Robin -- The other major kind of computer is the Apple, which I do not recommend, because it is a wuss-o-rama New-Age computer that you basically just plug in and use. - Dave Barry Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux in Thailand
http://www.linuxinsider.com/perl/story/32110.html just thought a few ppl here might be slightly interested :) -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
At 01:56 PM 11/12/2003, Anne Wilson said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): And don't forget to tell them that all support/updates/fixes for 98 have ceased. Ummm...No. They just released fixes for Win98 again. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User #333216 Information is not knowledge, Knowledge is not wisdom, Wisdom is not truth, Truth is not beauty, Beauty is not love, Love is not music, Music is THE BEST -- Frank Zappa Help fight SPAM. Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in Thailand
At 04:44 PM 11/12/2003, Merlin Zener said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): http://www.linuxinsider.com/perl/story/32110.html just thought a few ppl here might be slightly interested :) It was interesting, and it echoes something I have been saying. The conventional wisdom is that Linux is only for the most experienced PC users, and that people who are new to computers should stick to Windows. I have maintained that the opposite is true now: the experienced users will have problems because it isn't what they are used to, but newbies will do fine. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User #333216 Information is not knowledge, Knowledge is not wisdom, Wisdom is not truth, Truth is not beauty, Beauty is not love, Love is not music, Music is THE BEST -- Frank Zappa Help fight SPAM. Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
That's only because they want 98 to be able to get worm's etc, like 2k and xp. Roly On Wednesday 12 November 2003 03:01 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: At 01:56 PM 11/12/2003, Anne Wilson said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): And don't forget to tell them that all support/updates/fixes for 98 have ceased. Ummm...No. They just released fixes for Win98 again. Regards, -- MicroSoft - The company that made the internet unsafe! Linux Counter #241069 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Power Tools (WAS Good Article on Linux Filesystems)
Somebody scribbled about [newbie] Linux Power Tools (WAS Good Article on Linux Filesystems) One thing that's a rarity in the part of Canada that I live in is a book that acknowledges that Mandrake even exists. So you can imagine my delight when the cover of a recent release by Sybex called Linux Power If this is anything like Unix Power Tools put out a few years ago by O'Reilly -- it's a must have. John -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
Just curious about something. How many of the list members are using Linux in the workplace and how? I think it would be encouraging to see who's doing what with it, and which distro's, whether they're seeing an increase in business because of Linux and what interesting things they're doing with Linux. It might prove to be an interesting source of information for newbie's to know what can be done with Linux, especially when it's applied in a production environment. We see all kinds of articles regarding Linux, but it's very hard to contact those people to see how something was done, and what Tips 'n' Tricks were used to accomplish a particular task. MandrakeSoft has a special site (http://www.mandrakebizcases.com ), that allows anyone to post their particular application of Linux, but for the most part you can't get the hands-on info from those companies or individuals. Is this something we could/should add to the Twiki site? Comments? Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:40:18 -0500 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious about something. How many of the list members are using Linux in the workplace and how? I think it would be encouraging to see who's doing what with it, and which distro's, whether they're seeing an increase in business because of Linux and what interesting things they're doing with Linux. It might prove to be an interesting source of information for newbie's to know what can be done with Linux, especially when it's applied in a production environment. We see all kinds of articles regarding Linux, but it's very hard to contact those people to see how something was done, and what Tips 'n' Tricks were used to accomplish a particular task. MandrakeSoft has a special site (http://www.mandrakebizcases.com ), that allows anyone to post their particular application of Linux, but for the most part you can't get the hands-on info from those companies or individuals. Is this something we could/should add to the Twiki site? Comments? We used Mandrake Linux for our server before but we switched to FreeBSD and is very happy with that, I am also using FreeBSD for one of my workstations at work /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
Lanman wrote: Just curious about something. How many of the list members are using Linux in the workplace and how? I think it would be encouraging to see who's doing what with it, and which distro's, whether they're seeing an increase in business because of Linux and what interesting things they're doing with Linux. It might prove to be an interesting source of information for newbie's to know what can be done with Linux, especially when it's applied in a production environment. We see all kinds of articles regarding Linux, but it's very hard to contact those people to see how something was done, and what Tips 'n' Tricks were used to accomplish a particular task. MandrakeSoft has a special site (http://www.mandrakebizcases.com ), that allows anyone to post their particular application of Linux, but for the most part you can't get the hands-on info from those companies or individuals. Is this something we could/should add to the Twiki site? Comments? Lanman I've been using linux since just before Redhat 4 if memory serves.. so a few years.. I swapped to mandrake around mdk7.2 time and have not looked back. I've tried slackware, debian, caldera, coral, land a heap of others as well, but mdk and rh have always been the choice for me because I find getting the job done fast more important then steet cred. I've setup dozens of business's in perth with linux servers, many are just internet gateways, others are file servers and more are combinations thereof.. myself, I have about 6 linux servers and I use them to host websites for companies.. all the servers are mandrake now. my home network is a samba file server (mdk9.0) and my DNS server is also a mandrake box. rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
Very cool! Open-Source is all about choice, and FreeBSD is certainly a good choice. I find that a lot of people start with Mandrake because it's one of the easiest distro's to start with, but I also see a lot of users switch to other Open-Source solutions once they have gained some experience and confidence in their abilities. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 11/10/2003 at 4:50 PM Anders Lind wrote: We used Mandrake Linux for our server before but we switched to FreeBSD and is very happy with that, I am also using FreeBSD for one of my workstations at work /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
Way to go Franki ! Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
Lanman wrote: Just curious about something. How many of the list members are using Linux in the workplace and how? Lanman Lanman, I use Linux mandrake 9.1 both at home and at work .( writing from there now ) I work at an Information management company that does record storage, Microfilming, and Scanning. I use word 2000 and excel in linux through crossover office 2.1.0 to print labels and reports. this is on a dual booted win2000/Mdk 9.1 box. the network here is a combination of one win server 2003 and various older windows units 98/98se/w2k/xp and 1 older win server- I can surf tthe network freely except for the win2003 tree. I use an old HP Laser jet 5L to print with and have NO problems with anything. I didn't have to do any tweaking I can remember, it just installed and worked. I have done updates and such all thru mcc and it was boring. I have played around with a lot of different themes and styles , etc and haven't broken anything yet. we even have regular power outs but it hasn't hurt anything yet. all and all very boring to report really. -- Mike McNeese Springdale, Arkansas USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
I started out with mandrake in my house but at work I use redhat 9.0 for windows file sharing, dns, all integrated into a server 2003 dfs structure and active directory, I also utilize rsync for a network back up of other things stored on the rh server. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up ! Lanman wrote: Just curious about something. How many of the list members are using Linux in the workplace and how? Lanman Lanman, I use Linux mandrake 9.1 both at home and at work .( writing from there now ) I work at an Information management company that does record storage, Microfilming, and Scanning. I use word 2000 and excel in linux through crossover office 2.1.0 to print labels and reports. this is on a dual booted win2000/Mdk 9.1 box. the network here is a combination of one win server 2003 and various older windows units 98/98se/w2k/xp and 1 older win server- I can surf tthe network freely except for the win2003 tree. I use an old HP Laser jet 5L to print with and have NO problems with anything. I didn't have to do any tweaking I can remember, it just installed and worked. I have done updates and such all thru mcc and it was boring. I have played around with a lot of different themes and styles , etc and haven't broken anything yet. we even have regular power outs but it hasn't hurt anything yet. all and all very boring to report really. -- Mike McNeese Springdale, Arkansas USA * This message is intended for the sole use of the individual and entity to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended addressee, nor authorized to receive for the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that you may not use, copy, disclose or distribute to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete the message. Thank you. STI Computer Services * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
I think that you'll find that this is the case in most installations Mike. Usually, once it's set up and configured, Linux will usually bore you to tears in how dependable it is. Unless your clients or employers require additional administration or servers/services, you'll typically find that they don't need you very much, unless it's for other services. ( Whimper! ) In a way, I actually like that. It gives me the freedom to take on new clients and to prove the value of Linux. I was actually embarrassed one time, when speaking with a bunch of Microsoft-based Admins when I asked them how many times a month they re-booted their servers. Most of them were saying that they had to, or decided to reboot once a week! When they asked me how often I rebooted, I told the truth. Either never, or only when there was a power failure. They thought I was nuts until I told them I use Linux, at which point, they got real curious! Needless to say, there's a few more Microsoft Ex-Patriots in Montreal now! Ya Gotta Love Payback! All those guys who use to think that Linux was Way Out There are giving it a second look now! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 11/10/2003 at 10:17 AM mike wrote: I use Linux mandrake 9.1 both at home and at work .( writing from there now ) I work at an Information management company that does record storage, Microfilming, and Scanning. I use word 2000 and excel in linux through crossover office 2.1.0 to print labels and reports. this is on a dual booted win2000/Mdk 9.1 box. the network here is a combination of one win server 2003 and various older windows units 98/98se/w2k/xp and 1 older win server- I can surf tthe network freely except for the win2003 tree. I use an old HP Laser jet 5L to print with and have NO problems with anything. I didn't have to do any tweaking I can remember, it just installed and worked. I have done updates and such all thru mcc and it was boring. I have played around with a lot of different themes and styles , etc and haven't broken anything yet. we even have regular power outs but it hasn't hurt anything yet. all and all very boring to report really. -- Mike McNeese Springdale, Arkansas USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
In my corner of the office I have installed Mandrake 9.1 (started at 8.0) with Hylafax and it does a little web hosting (internally) and it also does remote checks on customers servers texting problems to support mobiles. The company has opted for RedHat in the only other area for testing our software on (I have no input there). They are very windows centric here so it is difficult to get them to change over. Tony. -Original Message- From: Lanman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up ! Just curious about something. How many of the list members are using Linux in the workplace and how? I think it would be encouraging to see who's doing what with it, and which distro's, whether they're seeing an increase in business because of Linux and what interesting things they're doing with Linux. It might prove to be an interesting source of information for newbie's to know what can be done with Linux, especially when it's applied in a production environment. We see all kinds of articles regarding Linux, but it's very hard to contact those people to see how something was done, and what Tips 'n' Tricks were used to accomplish a particular task. MandrakeSoft has a special site (http://www.mandrakebizcases.com ), that allows anyone to post their particular application of Linux, but for the most part you can't get the hands-on info from those companies or individuals. Is this something we could/should add to the Twiki site? Comments? Lanman -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
On Monday 10 November 2003 09:50 am, Anders Lind wrote: On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:40:18 -0500 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious about something. How many of the list members are using Linux in the workplace and how? I think it would be encouraging to see who's doing what with it, and which distro's, whether they're seeing an increase in business because of Linux and what interesting things they're doing with Linux. It might prove to be an interesting source of information for newbie's to know what can be done with Linux, especially when it's applied in a production environment. We see all kinds of articles regarding Linux, but it's very hard to contact those people to see how something was done, and what Tips 'n' Tricks were used to accomplish a particular task. snip /Anders We use Mandrake for our small business, (furniture repair). It is used to do letters with OO.org and the books with gnucash now that they have business functions incorporated. Oh and email and surfing. Not a large operation just three of us. Linux is a complete solution now, no matter what the other naysayers naysay. : ) -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
My principal business is a restaurant http://pizzapizza.vze.com/ and I've been running Linux Mandrake on our office computer since 8.0. The system is more stable and our data is no longer hostage to Microsoft's proprietary formats. One of the reasons that made me look at alternatives to Windows in the first place is that I use the office computer to supply background music for the dining area, but under Windows the system was never stable enough to rely upon. With any player under Windows -- Winamp, Music Match, whatever -- the sound would stutter and crash after a few hours. With Linux Mandrake and XMMS, I don't even have to think about the music anymore. I just turn on the system and it plays, with perfect reliability. The heart of our restaurant's office work is a spreadsheet with a list of raw ingredients that my restaurant uses. It is referenced by another sheet that has all our recipes and calculates costs and prices. It in turn is referenced by a word processing document that has our menu ready to print. Microsoft Office could never get it right: cell references were dropped, formatting was mangled, and files were irrecoverably corrupted constantly. OpenOffice imported the relevant files, converted them, and made everything work out of the box. As a side business I develop and manage web sites. The software available in Linux is so much better than the equivalent apps in Windows. Bluefish, Gimp, gFTP... they blow away the best there is for Windows. I'll never go back to Microsoft. I had opened our town's first Internet café. I have since closed it for business reasons, but at the same time I switched our restaurant to Linux I switched the café as well, renaming it the Tropical Penguin Cybercafé with a logo of Tux wearing a Hawaiian necklace. Steady customers didn't notice that it wasn't Windows but did comment on how much faster and more stable the workstations had become, and how much nicer the desktops looked. -- Warren Post, Registered Linux user 241394 Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras http://srcopan.vze.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
I'm not using it for business, but as a long time IT professional, Linux is at least as easy to maintain as Win2k server. Added to which, the software is a lot cheaper and the support is a lot better. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
El lun, 10-11-2003 a las 12:40, Lanman escribió: Just curious about something. How many of the list members are using Linux in the workplace and how? I was hired in a cybercafé last month. My job is to completely migrate it to Linux. (gaming machines included). Not an easy task as you can see, i've been working on desktop installations and config, as well as building an application that controls all of them from one computer and enables or disables them as clients walk in and ask for a computer. So, Am i using Linux in the workplace? hehe.. yeah, it's 100% of my job. I think it would be encouraging to see who's doing what with it, and which distro's, whether they're seeing an increase in business because of Linux and what interesting things they're doing with Linux. We've got several e-mails and messages from other places and shops that want to take the plunge and start migrating to Linux too, they mostly want to know what to do and how exactly are we doing it... It might prove to be an interesting source of information for newbie's to know what can be done with Linux, especially when it's applied in a production environment. We see all kinds of articles regarding Linux, but it's very hard to contact those people to see how something was done, and what Tips 'n' Tricks were used to accomplish a particular task. That sounds familiar :o) MandrakeSoft has a special site (http://www.mandrakebizcases.com ), that allows anyone to post their particular application of Linux, but for the most part you can't get the hands-on info from those companies or individuals. We know. In fact, i was the one to suggest (and IMPOSE ;o)) Mandrake for the task. The day they gave me the job interview they had already installed two SuSE machines. One was the first desktop, the other was the server. The server is still using SuSE, as i'm reluctant to fix something that works, but all of the desktops have now Mdk 9.1 (and one 9.2). We have been talking to some MandrakeSoft people over here and there's the chance that we also become official Mandrake vendors. As part of the arrangements, there was the success story, which involved us being in one of those articles. We're still thinking about it. Is this something we could/should add to the Twiki site? Comments? IMO yes. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux to MS VPN
Guy Rouillier wrote: At work, we are considering replacing CheckPoint SecureRemote VPN with Microsoft VPN that's built in to Windows 2K server versions. To hook up with MS VPN from a Win2K remote system requires no add-on software; everything needed is built into Win2K. Does anyone have any experience with setting up Linux to connect to a MS VPN? From what I gather from the people here at work, MS VPN is a much more straightforward IPSEC VPN implementation than is CheckPoint, but I don't really know much about it. Thanks for any pointers. Answering my own question (for those trolling the archives), a Linux PPTP client can be found here: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/ A member of my team claims to have already used it to connect to a MS VPN. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux to MS VPN
At work, we are considering replacing CheckPoint SecureRemote VPN with Microsoft VPN that's built in to Windows 2K server versions. To hook up with MS VPN from a Win2K remote system requires no add-on software; everything needed is built into Win2K. Does anyone have any experience with setting up Linux to connect to a MS VPN? From what I gather from the people here at work, MS VPN is a much more straightforward IPSEC VPN implementation than is CheckPoint, but I don't really know much about it. Thanks for any pointers. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Power Tools (WAS Good Article on Linux Filesystems)
No it isn't, though my guess is that the title and the depth that it goes into was inspired by Unix Power Tools. From reading the back cover on Amazon's site I'd also guess that the two books together would really be a great resource to have handy. :-) ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Power Tools (WAS Good Article on Linux Filesystems)
Is Linux Power Tools an update of Unix Power Tools? That was one hell of a good book. Sir Robin -- I declare this sentence a performative! Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux Power Tools (WAS Good Article on Linux Filesystems)
One thing that's a rarity in the part of Canada that I live in is a book that acknowledges that Mandrake even exists. So you can imagine my delight when the cover of a recent release by Sybex called Linux Power Tools said it covered Mandrake. Imagine even further my delight to see Mandrake handled on a par with Red Hat and SuSe rather than being parked in a deep dark appendix. The book covers just about everything you want covered in the setup and maintenance of a system. Bear in mind though that it's not going to cover everything. What it does cover, in dizzying array, is hardware tools, user tools, system administration tools, networking and server tools. I say in dizzyin array because it covers all differences in the different distros that it covers. No one size fits all here. Where Mandrake handles things uniquely that is covered. A notable exception is urpmi which, sadly, isn't in any detail. This seems to be that urpmi has no gui to automate updates. MCC, msec and others are fully covered though. The writer appears to be very familiar with our favourite bird in the penguin flock and has used it to demonstrate the KDE enviornment using a 9.1 beta. It's targeted at Intermediate/Advanced users, though a newbie might get some very good ideas from it. The reason that this isn't a full review is that I'm still working through it. :-) That said I'd recommend it highly. The author is Roderick W. Smith, a columnist in Linux Magazine and author of Linux Samba Server Administration: and Linux+ Study Guide. ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux complient notebooks
L.V.Gandhi wrote: On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 8:48 pm, Franki wrote: L.V.Gandhi wrote: I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. I have just just gotten a Dell Inspiron 5150, 3.06gig Mobile Pention 4. 512MB DDR. Geforce FX5200 go. 60 gig HDD. TM1300 b/g wireless. I have not loaded linux on it yet, was waiting for Mandrake 9.2 however I did start the machine with knoppix and it all seemed to work fine. Didn't try the wireless but some searching on the net shows it is possible to work, but you have to compile a module to do it. (no biggie). When mdk9.2 comes out, I will be documenting all the steps I took to get it working and link it on the Twiki. Thanks for the response. After Asus A7N8X deluxe MB and asus v9180SE video card in my desktop, I am wary of video system and MB chipsets. knoppix 3.2 works OK even in my desktop with fb without dri. Even closed source binary nvidia driver from their site, doesn't provide dri support. Further MB chipset nvidia nforce2 is not supported by mdk 9.1 stock kernel. I have to download a new kernel without source(I have only dial up connection). Now without source, video driver wont compile. I will wait for your trial with mdk9.2. Any opinion on centrino? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well since Centrino is not as fast as 3.06 gig mobile P4, I chose to go with the later.. Centrino is only of use for those wanting smallest laptop with longest battery life. The 5150 has over 4 hours battery life so its fine for me. Why get a centrino with 802.11b and limit yourself to 11mb transfers, when you can have 802.11b/g in the 5150 and get the full 54mb transfer speed? Centrino is ok, but why pay extra for less CPU grunt? rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufactures to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] linux complient notebooks
I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux complient notebooks
L.V.Gandhi wrote: I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. I have just just gotten a Dell Inspiron 5150, 3.06gig Mobile Pention 4. 512MB DDR. Geforce FX5200 go. 60 gig HDD. TM1300 b/g wireless. I have not loaded linux on it yet, was waiting for Mandrake 9.2 however I did start the machine with knoppix and it all seemed to work fine. Didn't try the wireless but some searching on the net shows it is possible to work, but you have to compile a module to do it. (no biggie). When mdk9.2 comes out, I will be documenting all the steps I took to get it working and link it on the Twiki. hope that helps. regards Franki Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufactures to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux complient notebooks
On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 8:48 pm, Franki wrote: L.V.Gandhi wrote: I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. I have just just gotten a Dell Inspiron 5150, 3.06gig Mobile Pention 4. 512MB DDR. Geforce FX5200 go. 60 gig HDD. TM1300 b/g wireless. I have not loaded linux on it yet, was waiting for Mandrake 9.2 however I did start the machine with knoppix and it all seemed to work fine. Didn't try the wireless but some searching on the net shows it is possible to work, but you have to compile a module to do it. (no biggie). When mdk9.2 comes out, I will be documenting all the steps I took to get it working and link it on the Twiki. Thanks for the response. After Asus A7N8X deluxe MB and asus v9180SE video card in my desktop, I am wary of video system and MB chipsets. knoppix 3.2 works OK even in my desktop with fb without dri. Even closed source binary nvidia driver from their site, doesn't provide dri support. Further MB chipset nvidia nforce2 is not supported by mdk 9.1 stock kernel. I have to download a new kernel without source(I have only dial up connection). Now without source, video driver wont compile. I will wait for your trial with mdk9.2. Any opinion on centrino? -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux on a Thinkpad?
On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:03, Merlin Zener wrote: Good idea? Excellent idea!!;) I've got 4 (older P166's) Tpads with Linux only... they all work fine. Good luck, HarM -- Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux on a Thinkpad?
Hi, have any of you folks put Linux on a Thinkpad? I've got an A21E - 600Mhz, 256Mram 800x600lcd. I noticed that when I got it there were two partitions set up on the HDD - one is [I think] about 8G or so which has the IBM setup files etc on it; the rest came pre-installed with WIN2KPRO. I've never needed the preload stuff so I was wondering about deleting it and putting Linux on there and set it up as a dual boot like my desktop now. Good idea? TIA -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux fax machine
I have a Toshiba TF631 bought on ebay for about !00.00 US. Look for one with the network card installed and it will do all. This is the 2nd one we've gotten the same way. I put the wrong toner in the first, then fubar'ed the fuser trying to clean up the mess. Expensive lesson, but a lesson nonetheless. It'll be valuable for parts down the road, too, the next time I get brave. Lee On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:11:09 -0400 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a laser fax machine that does copying (I guess they all do). It's not imperative that I can print and send faxes from Linux, but it'd be nice. Any recommendations? Miark -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux fax machine
What about Hylafax with a sheet feed scanner? -Original Message- From: Miark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 10:11 PM To: Newbie; Expert Subject: [newbie] Linux fax machine I'm looking for a laser fax machine that does copying (I guess they all do). It's not imperative that I can print and send faxes from Linux, but it'd be nice. Any recommendations? Miark -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux fax machine
I'm looking for a laser fax machine that does copying (I guess they all do). It's not imperative that I can print and send faxes from Linux, but it'd be nice. Any recommendations? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] linux guides
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Re: [newbie] linux world magazine resource DVD with mandrake 9.1 on it
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 18:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have this? i do and i it won't boot from the dvd drive and when i make a boot disk it dosn't regognize the DVD as the install CD and tells me to insert the install CD. Any solutions? I'm betting you need to burn an ISO that is on the dvd to a CD...so the cd will boot. most distros on DVD are like that... actully it has a ISO for a floppy i did that it dosn't regonize the DVD as the installation CD. I don't think so,,, the iso should not be a floppy, since ISO stands for iso9660 and that is the filesystem for a CD __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux world magazine resource DVD with mandrake 9.1 on it
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 18:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have this? i do and i it won't boot from the dvd drive and when i make a boot disk it dosn't regognize the DVD as the install CD and tells me to insert the install CD. Any solutions? I'm betting you need to burn an ISO that is on the dvd to a CD...so the cd will boot. most distros on DVD are like that... actully it has a ISO for a floppy i did that it dosn't regonize the DVD as the installation CD. and if you connect via a dialup AI bet you won't be able to connect once you have it installed __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux world magazine resource DVD with mandrake 9.1 on it
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 06:22, ed tharp wrote: On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 18:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have this? i do and i it won't boot from the dvd drive and when i make a boot disk it dosn't regognize the DVD as the install CD and tells me to insert the install CD. Any solutions? I'm betting you need to burn an ISO that is on the dvd to a CD...so the cd will boot. most distros on DVD are like that... actully it has a ISO for a floppy i did that it dosn't regonize the DVD as the installation CD. and if you connect via a dialup AI bet you won't be able to connect once you have it installed Lets try that again... and if you connect via a dialup to AOL, I bet you won't be able to connect once you have it installed. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux world magazine resource DVD with mandrake 9.1 on it
Hello, You want to check that the DVD has the .iso files on it.In the UK quite often you have to copy the .iso images of the DVD on to your H/D,then burn them to CD to install the OS. Drew - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:22 PM Subject: [newbie] linux world magazine resource DVD with mandrake 9.1 on it Does anyone have this? i do and i it won't boot from the dvd drive and when i make a boot disk it dosn't regognize the DVD as the install CD and tells me to insert the install CD. Any solutions?
Re: [newbie] linux world magazine resource DVD with mandrake 9.1 on it
Does anyone have this? i do and i it won't boot from the dvd drive and when i make a boot disk it dosn't regognize the DVD as the install CD and tells me to insert the install CD. Any solutions? I'm betting you need to burn an ISO that is on the dvd to a CD...so the cd will boot. most distros on DVD are like that... actully it has a ISO for a floppy i did that it dosn't regonize the DVD as the installation CD. I don't think so,,, the iso should not be a floppy, since ISO stands for iso9660 and that is the filesystem for a CD excuse me i ment .img
[newbie] linux world magazine resource DVD with mandrake 9.1 on it
Does anyone have this? i do and i it won't boot from the dvd drive and when i make a boot disk it dosn't regognize the DVD as the install CD and tells me to insert the install CD. Any solutions?
Re: [newbie] linux world magazine resource DVD with mandrake 9.1 on it
Does anyone have this? i do and i it won't boot from the dvd drive and when i make a boot disk it dosn't regognize the DVD as the install CD and tells me to insert the install CD. Any solutions? I'm betting you need to burn an ISO that is on the dvd to a CD...so the cd will boot. most distros on DVD are like that... actully it has a ISO for a floppy i did that it dosn't regonize the DVD as the installation CD. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
