Re: [newbie-it] grazie mike

2002-01-28 Per discussione Stefano Salari

 --- Fabio Manunza [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha
scritto:  vga=normal   = bingo!
 Tutto qua. Gli altri problemi sono scomparsi con
 l'avvio da HD, come
 subodoravo...
 Il sottoscritto c'ha mdk8.1 con 2.4.16.
 Effettivamente una bella soddisfazione..
 Grazie
 Fabio

Acc, sono arrivato tardi...! Si, probabilmente nel tuo
LILO avevi conservato l'impostazione vga=788, che
pero' richiede l'attivazione del framebuffer nel
kernel.

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[newbie-it] Configurazione Stampante

2002-01-28 Per discussione Emma e Gigi

Salve a tutti!!!
Ho installato Star Office 5.2 Primo problema: come stampante configurata 
risulta una generica. Ora io ho una HP 690C, la quale viene regolarmente 
riconosciuta da Mandrake 8.1, infatti con KWord, per fare un esempio, è la 
stampante predefinita.
Come posso fare per convincere Star Office che ho una HP?
Grazie mille
Gigi




Re: [newbie-it] Scheda di rete

2002-01-28 Per discussione syd

Alle 23:08, sabato 26 gennaio 2002, mike ha scritto:

cut

 allora
 aggiungi in /etc/modules.conf
 la riga:
 alias eth0 8139too

 al riavvio avrai l'ethernet caricata

cut

 ricompilare non ti serve, a meno di problemi particolari di
 instabilità, di mancato supporto, o volontà di attivare cose che ora
 non usi.
 Inserire il modulo nel kernel è un metodo efficace ma non ti è
 necessario, visto che il caricamento riesci a farlo.

Abbandonata la mia insana idea di agire sul kernel (grazie anche a te, 
Andrea) ho apportato la modifica indicata da mike.
Risultati.. strani:
1)E' vero, al riavvio ho potuto verificare da shell (ifconfig lisci e non) di 
avere eth0 caricata (ma resta sempre durante il boot in modalità grafica 
quella insolita scheda nell'angolo basso sinistro dello schermo, la stellina 
di natale invece è scomparsa; nel tool di configurazione di hardrake mi 
risponde sempre di essere impossibilitato a.. locate module eth0)
2)Volendo comunicare il risultato alla ml mi sono connesso e con mia grande..
gioia.. ho scoperto di viaggiare alla velocità di 0,0 kbs. Per essere più 
preciso: ero connesso ma kmail restava inchiodato sulla trasmissione dal 
primo pop e col browser non andavo da nessuna parte qualunque fosse 
l'indirizzo digitato.
Ho controllato le impostazioni della connessione e del modem, quest'ultimo 
provandolo anche con windows e  qui verificandone il normale funzionamento.
Quindi ho eliminato la modifica al /etc/modules.conf consigliata da mike e la 
navigazione è tornata normale.
Sottolineo che ho più volte aggiunto e tolto la stringa alias eth0.. al 
file indicato e il risultato è stato sempre lo stesso: con alias eth0.. ho 
la scheda ethernet (ex shell) ma non posso navigare nonostante sia connesso, 
senza alias eth0.. non ho la scheda caricata ma posso navigare 
tranquillamente.
Ai posteri l'ardua sentenza...
Continuo a spulciare tra howto e siti vari ma se vi viene in mente 
qualcosa...
Dimenticavo: io un'altra scheda non la compro!
-- 
syd




[newbie-it] [OT] star office 5.2

2002-01-28 Per discussione Cinzia Delogu



Ho scaricato star office 5.2 dal sito della sun, ma 
il file è in formato *.bin; che cosa posso utilizzare per 
masterizzarlo?


Stefano


[newbie-it] SUSE 7.3

2002-01-28 Per discussione Francesco Speranza



Anche se questa mail-list e' dedicata a Mandrake 
volevo porre un quesito sulla distribuzione di Suse.
Sto cercando di scaricare Suse 7.3 da 
uno dei siti italiani (ftp.uniroma2.it/linux/suse/suse/i386) 
ma noto che la quantita' di MB da scaricare e' enorme ( molto piu' di un 
singolo CD forse bisognascaricare solo alcune Dir) ed 
inoltre non ho alcuna idea su come iniziare l'istallazione ( a parte un file 
setup che pare funzioni sotto DOS )e infatti non so come fare per 
organizzare questi files in uno o più CD di installazione ( non c'e' un file iso 
...) .
Qualcuno che ha pratica con Suse potrebbe aiutarmi 
a risolvere questo quesito?
Francesco



Re: [newbie-it] grazie mike

2002-01-28 Per discussione miKe

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Il 19:55, domenica 27 gennaio 2002, in merito a [newbie-it] grazie 
mike, Fabio Manunza ha scritto:
 vga=normal   = bingo!
 Tutto qua. Gli altri problemi sono scomparsi con l'avvio da HD,
 come subodoravo...
 Il sottoscritto c'ha mdk8.1 con 2.4.16.
 Effettivamente una bella soddisfazione..
 Grazie
 Fabio


non ringraziare, il lavoro l'hai fatto tu!



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Re: [newbie-it] Scheda di rete

2002-01-28 Per discussione miKe

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Il 15:32, lunedì 28 gennaio 2002, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] Scheda 
di rete, syd ha scritto:
 Alle 23:08, sabato 26 gennaio 2002, mike ha scritto:

 1)E' vero, al riavvio ho potuto verificare da shell (ifconfig lisci
 e non) di avere eth0 caricata 



(ma resta sempre durante il boot in
 modalità grafica quella insolita scheda nell'angolo basso sinistro
 dello schermo, la stellina di natale invece è scomparsa; 

perchè non dsattivi aurora per vedere che tipo di errore hai?
poi, 
#dmesg cosa ti dice?
l'errore è di caricamento o di assegnazione dell'indirizzo?
o di rotta?

$vi /var/log/messages
per vedere eventuali errori nel caricamento

#route (ad eth up e eth down)
così controlli come hai settato le rotte 

nel tool
 di configurazione di hardrake mi risponde sempre di essere
 impossibilitato a.. locate module eth0)

il tool non usarlo!
se hai la scheda caricata perchè cerchi di ricaricarla, se non la 
trova c'è poco da fare, devi andare a mano...

2)Volendo comunicare il
 risultato alla ml mi sono connesso e con mia grande.. gioia.. ho
 scoperto di viaggiare alla velocità di 0,0 kbs.

se ti connetti  ad internet col modem, avere o meno eth0 non c'entra 
proprio ...


 Per essere più
 preciso: ero connesso ma kmail restava inchiodato sulla
 trasmissione dal primo pop 

questo potrebbe proprio essere un problema di DNS..
ti basta aggiungere un 
- -
search tuodominio
nameserver tuonameserver
- -
in /etc/resolv.conf


e col browser non andavo da nessuna
 parte qualunque fosse l'indirizzo digitato.

idem, con un IP uscivi?

 Ho controllato le impostazioni della connessione e del modem,
 quest'ultimo provandolo anche con windows e  qui verificandone il
 normale funzionamento. Quindi ho eliminato la modifica al
 /etc/modules.conf consigliata da mike e la navigazione è tornata
 normale.

ok, il caricamento della rete ti carica la rotta che hai impostato, 
generalmente eth0 diventa il GW per la tua rete,
ma tu, a meno di avere un router, navighi con ppp0 come GW 

devi settare kppp in modo che ppp0 diventi default gateway quando (e 
solo allora) sei connesso,
sostituendo anche i dns locali con quelli assegnati dal provider



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[newbie] Mandrake 7.0: can't install rpm files

2002-01-28 Per discussione Manny Baveas

Hi all,

here are some specs.
*Intel Pentium 4 1.8GHz-133
*Intel 845E Chipset
*512 MB RAM
*80GB IDE HardDrive
*TNT2 – M64 32mb Video Card

*Linux Mandrake 7.0
*Linux-kernel 2.2.14

*I recently purchased a new PC and installed linux
Mandrake 7.0 using DrakeX.  The PC has been
partitioned as follows. 
Win98 partition 5Gbytes
/boot
/ 17Gytes
swap 1024Mbytes
/home about 50Gbytes (the rest)


Description of Problem

When I try and install any additional packages within
linux using any one of the rpm package manages (i.e.
kpackage, drakerpm etc) I get an error reading:  
‘package name’ is for a different architecture.

I’ve tried many packages that came within the CDs
(including i586 rpm files).  The same error was given
following each attempt.  In addition I uninstalled
several packages already installed during the DrakeX
installation and attempted to reinstalled them.  I got
the same problem.

I need to install additional packages in order to run
a research software package.

I don’t understand why I’m getting this architecture
incompatibility problem.  Is the Intel 845E chipset
incompatible with mandrake 7.0?   Do I need to upgrade
to Linux Mandrake 8.1? 

I eagerly look forward to a reply.
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Re: [newbie] Running a shell script at boot

2002-01-28 Per discussione Hal Wigoda


Put it in the  /etc/rc3.d
directory
and label it as starting with S
and it will be run at startup.

 This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
 
 =_1012203894-762-3426
 Content-Type: text/plain
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
 I have written a shell script I would like to run as root at boot time. 
 Where do I put the command to run it?
 
 thanks
 Brian
 
 
 
 
 
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[newbie] Re Fax programs

2002-01-28 Per discussione Graham Watkins

Is anybody aware of a simple Linux fax program that will work with a 
group 1 fax modem (Hayes Accura external).

I have tried to use Hylafax but found the setup impossible.

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[newbie] Mounting an install of 8.1 or 8.2beta as RO to prevent any damage

2002-01-28 Per discussione Joe L. Casale

I would like to make a few terminals, and these will only be used for
running Rdesktop.
I wanna be able to mount the root as RO and what ever else is required
so even if the user turns the power off, the install would not be
affected, nor run fsck at bootup.
Can anyone advise on all the procedures to do this?
I am only presuming that root needs to be RO, but like I said, all the
needed procedures should be outlined, I am just learning Linux now.

The terminals are all IDE disks.

Thank you,
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Re: [newbie] Redirecting OpenOffice.org old files

2002-01-28 Per discussione Ralph Slooten

I am using 641C and it leaves the annoying viewdbg.txt each time I close
OpenOffice in the ~/

I would suggest to make some script to delete this file. I have no idea
what the purpose it of it...

Greetings
Ralph



On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Anuerin G.Diaz wrote:


 hi,

   whenever i finish using openoffice.org i get small tmp files, a
 viewdbg.txt, and a wc file in my home directory. is there a way for me
 to redirect OO.O to use the /tmp for its temporary files? or is this
 fixed in latest release? btw, im using the 641B snapshot.

 thanks!







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Re: [newbie] Redirecting OpenOffice.org old files

2002-01-28 Per discussione Anuerin G.Diaz


yeah, i have one with deletes it together with all the *tmp files that it leaves 
scattered in the home directory. but this approach is like stemming the effect without 
curing the cause.

ciao!

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:07:03 +0100 (CET)
Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] revealed these words to me:

 I am using 641C and it leaves the annoying viewdbg.txt each time I close
 OpenOffice in the ~/
 
 I would suggest to make some script to delete this file. I have no idea
 what the purpose it of it...
 
 Greetings
 Ralph
 
 
 
 On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Anuerin G.Diaz wrote:
 
 
  hi,
 
whenever i finish using openoffice.org i get small tmp files, a
  viewdbg.txt, and a wc file in my home directory. is there a way for me
  to redirect OO.O to use the /tmp for its temporary files? or is this
  fixed in latest release? btw, im using the 641B snapshot.
 
  thanks!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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RE: [newbie] Re Fax programs

2002-01-28 Per discussione Derek Jennings

I kinda recall having problems getting my fax to work. Eventually I got it 
working with KdeprintFax using EFax as the back end with this as the command 
line used in 'Settings'
/usr/bin/fax 'NAME=%user' DEV=%dev PAGE=%page 'FROM=%from' send %res 
%number %files

You can test if your serial port is working OK if you open a terminal and type
echo ath1  /dev/modem

That should cause your modem to go Off Hook. (ath0 to go On Hook again)
If /dev/modem does not work try /dev/ttyS0

HTH

derek


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Is anybody aware of a simple Linux fax program that will work with a
group 1 fax modem (Hayes Accura external).

I have tried to use Hylafax but found the setup impossible.

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Re: [newbie] cd-rw

2002-01-28 Per discussione Ralph Slooten

With which program did you use to burn to the cd-rw in Windows? I know that
Adaptec has this wonderful way of dragging and dropping through your
Explorer to add files to it, and if you did it in this way, ONLY Adaptec
can read the file. I had this problem one too about 3 years ago. It freaked
me out, so the first thing I did then was to copy all my files to the HD
via Windows, uninstall Adaptec (basicallt threw it straight in the bin
afterwards), and then used Nero. Shortly afterwards I began with Linux and
never looked back.

Ralph

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 Hi. I am having trouble reading a cd-rw cd. This is a brand new
 installation of 8.1. I am trying to look at a cd that was created in
 windows. My Sony crx0811 seems to see cd-r but not cd-rw. It
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Re: [newbie] Redirecting OpenOffice.org old files

2002-01-28 Per discussione Ralph Slooten

But I have no other tmp files in my home directory Maybe it's to do
with the 641C version, I can't remember.

Yes I aggree, why these files are there in the first place baffels me. If
they were to be put in the local OpenOffice install directory I could
understand.. Oh well, maybe 641D won't have this, we can only hope ;-)

Ralph

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Anuerin G.Diaz wrote:


 yeah, i have one with deletes it together with all the *tmp files that
 it leaves scattered in the home directory. but this approach is like
 stemming the effect without curing the cause.

 ciao!

 On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:07:03 +0100 (CET)
 Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] revealed these words to me:

  I am using 641C and it leaves the annoying viewdbg.txt each time I close
  OpenOffice in the ~/
 
  I would suggest to make some script to delete this file. I have no idea
  what the purpose it of it...
 
  Greetings
  Ralph
 
 
 
  On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Anuerin G.Diaz wrote:
 
  
   hi,
  
 whenever i finish using openoffice.org i get small tmp files, a
   viewdbg.txt, and a wc file in my home directory. is there a way for me
   to redirect OO.O to use the /tmp for its temporary files? or is this
   fixed in latest release? btw, im using the 641B snapshot.
  
   thanks!
  
  
 
 
 
 
 








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Re: [newbie] Re Fax programs

2002-01-28 Per discussione Graham Watkins



Derek Jennings wrote:
20020128103634.TBFE7206.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@there">
  I kinda recall having problems getting my fax to work. Eventually I got it working with KdeprintFax using EFax as the back end with this as the command line used in 'Settings'/usr/bin/fax 'NAME="%user"' DEV=%dev PAGE=%page 'FROM="%from"' send %res %number %filesYou can test if your serial port is working OK if you open a terminal and typeecho "ath1"  /dev/modemThat should cause your modem to go Off Hook. (ath0 to go On Hook again)If /dev/modem does not work try /dev/ttyS0HTHderek
  
= Original Message From Graham Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

=

  Is anybody aware of a simple Linux fax program that will work with agroup 1 fax modem (Hayes Accura external).I have tried to use Hylafax but found the setup impossible.
  
  
Thanks Derek.
  
But I tried to get Efax working one time but it seems that it does not recognise
group 1 fax modems. Unless you know different, I don't think this is the
way to go.
  --Graham WatkinsFor me, morning begins when I realize that the soft warm body curled up next 
to me is a cat. (Kinky Friedman - Frequent Flyer)  


  
  
  


Re: [newbie] Redirecting OpenOffice.org old files

2002-01-28 Per discussione Anuerin G. Diaz


amen to that... *grin*

anybody know when 641D will come out? if its within 2 months time then i will have to 
put off downloading 641C. 

thanks!

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:54:31 +0100 (CET)
Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] revealed these words to me:

 But I have no other tmp files in my home directory Maybe it's to do
 with the 641C version, I can't remember.
 
 Yes I aggree, why these files are there in the first place baffels me. If
 they were to be put in the local OpenOffice install directory I could
 understand.. Oh well, maybe 641D won't have this, we can only hope ;-)
 
 Ralph
 
 On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Anuerin G.Diaz wrote:
 
 
  yeah, i have one with deletes it together with all the *tmp files that
  it leaves scattered in the home directory. but this approach is like
  stemming the effect without curing the cause.
 
  ciao!
 
  On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:07:03 +0100 (CET)
  Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] revealed these words to me:
 
   I am using 641C and it leaves the annoying viewdbg.txt each time I close
   OpenOffice in the ~/
  
   I would suggest to make some script to delete this file. I have no idea
   what the purpose it of it...
  
   Greetings
   Ralph
  
  
  
   On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Anuerin G.Diaz wrote:
  
   
hi,
   
  whenever i finish using openoffice.org i get small tmp files, a
viewdbg.txt, and a wc file in my home directory. is there a way for me
to redirect OO.O to use the /tmp for its temporary files? or is this
fixed in latest release? btw, im using the 641B snapshot.
   
thanks!
   
   
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: [newbie] Running a shell script at boot

2002-01-28 Per discussione Brian Parish

Thanks Hal,

That did the trick.

cheers
Brian

On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 20:26, Hal Wigoda wrote:
 
 Put it in the  /etc/rc3.d
 directory
 and label it as starting with S
 and it will be run at startup.
 
  This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
  
  =_1012203894-762-3426
  Content-Type: text/plain
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  
  I have written a shell script I would like to run as root at boot time. 
  Where do I put the command to run it?
  
  thanks
  Brian
  
  
  
  
  
  =_1012203894-762-3426
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  Content-Disposition: inline; filename=message.footer
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[newbie] Errors on boot up -vs-13048

2002-01-28 Per discussione David Park

I have suddenly encounted multiple errors on booting my system running 8.0.
the following error occurring is
vs-1308: reiserfs_iget: bad_inode. stat data of (6 17826) not found.  this
appears several times with the number in brackets incrementing each time.
Can any one help me sort this out or will I be losing valuable data?

TIA

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Re: [newbie] copying files from cd

2002-01-28 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall

FLYNN, Steve wrote:
 
 I've never used Nautilus, so I can't comment, but what you are doing sounds
 correct. or at least plausible.
 
 No ida why it gives you an empty file though. Any Nautilus users who can
 comment?

I'd like to know what happens when the original poster just plain drags 'n
drops a file between an open home window and his CD window?

Also, boot into KDE and try it there as well...see if its in both desktops or
just Gnome/Nautilus...

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Re[4]: [newbie] Automatic Windows Mount

2002-01-28 Per discussione Roman Korcek

Hi,

 My windows driveis automatically mounted when I go into Linux.
 How do I turn this off?
 comment the entries in your /etc/fstab by placing # marks before
 each line.
 I wonder, what should I do so that the drives don't get mounted but
 I can mount them with a simple mount /mnt/win_c without specifying
 all the filesystem type and the like options? A simple user,noauto
 in the options?
 putting 'noauto' in the option list ought to do the job I think.
 Check out 'man fstab'   and 'man mount' for a full list of options.

Thanks, I already did that, just nitpicking if there is a way to mount
my windows drives using mount -a and don't have them mounted at boot
time.

Thanks again
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Re[2]: [newbie] HP Printers

2002-01-28 Per discussione Roman Korcek

Hi,

 Can any of you with late model HP printers let me know about
 drivers and support?  I'm looking to buy one this weekend and would
 like to have a bit

 I am not a fan of HP for Linux printing...They are not really into supporting
 the drivers nor do they want to get 'into' the game.
 A better choice is Epson or Lexmark.  They are both very Linux friendly
 companies and their devices and software work with Linux.  Correctly.

I disagree... according to www.linuxprinting.org their suport is fine.
Let me quote,
As for the DeskJets, HP recently released an open-source driver kit
for the bulk of its modern consumer DeskJet line. After finishing a
lengthy patent search, with version 1.0.1 they made it free software
by removing the for usage with HP products only from the BSDish
license. So HP is near the top of the heap in terms of free software
support for its inkjet devices (Free software driving Epson Photo
printers still produces better color quality).
(taken from http://www.linuxprinting.org/vendors.html#hp )
I personally haven't tried their HPIJS driver yet, but I think HP is
on a good way. Epson might have better quality (under Linux), though.

Good luck anyways
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Re[2]: [newbie] cd-rw

2002-01-28 Per discussione Roman Korcek

Hi,

 I am having trouble reading a cd-rw cd. This is a brand new
 installation of 8.1. I am trying to look at a cd that was created
 in windows. My Sony crx0811 seems to see cd-r but not cd-rw. It
 mounts but shows only two files: autorun.inf and udfrinst.exe.

 With which program did you use to burn to the cd-rw in Windows? I
 know that Adaptec has this wonderful way of dragging and dropping
 through your Explorer to add files to it, and if you did it in this
 way, ONLY Adaptec can read the file. I had this problem one too
 about 3 years ago. It freaked me out, so the first thing I did then
 was to copy all my files to the HD via Windows, uninstall Adaptec
 (basicallt threw it straight in the bin afterwards), and then used
 Nero. Shortly afterwards I began with Linux and never looked back.

You formatted the CD as UDF, either using DirectCD od PacketCD. As
this works nice in Windows, I am not sure how to make it work in
Linux. The two files there ensure that a proper driver for reading the
CD is installed when the disc is inserted into a non-CD-RW drive under
Windows. So you have two choices - either you check the docs (man) for
mount and see if there is some kind of UDF file system mentioned and
try to mount it with that, or you access the CD under Windows, copy
the files to disk, perform a long or full format of the CD and
then burn it the traditional way, using either WinOnCD, Easy CD
Creator, Nero Burning Rom or similar programs.

If you have more questions I'd be glad to help you.
Roman




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[newbie] CD-ROM settings...(Byte size)

2002-01-28 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall

This is directed to all the CD users out there...

I've got 2 SCSI devices, my DVD drive and a CDRW. My question is, what
settings is everyone using on their jumpers? Specifically, I'm wondering about
the byte size option. Either 512 or 2048 are offered. Both of mine are now
using 512. Does anyone use 2048, and if so can you can give reasons/advantages
as to why? Thanks much!

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   /\
   DarkLord
   \/



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[newbie] KDE Gnome

2002-01-28 Per discussione Walter Logeman

Hi,

I have just upgraded Evolution from 0.13 that came with mandrake 
8.1 to Evolution 1.0.1 I think it is all looking quite good.  I 
used gnorpm to install the downloads.

I usually run KDE and Evolution keeps taking me into the gnome 
Control Center - and suddenly my KDE screensaver   desktops 
disappeared etc.  (They came back on a reboot).  

What is the best way to use these two control centers?  I'd like 
to use lager fonts in the Gnome style aps - can I configure 
gnome to read the kde settings instead of sawfish?

Walter




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Re: [newbie] cd-rw

2002-01-28 Per discussione thedoghouse

It's Adaptec. And I did drag and drop. I'll check out Nero, thanks for 
the help. -Jeff

On 28 Jan 2002, you wrote:

 With which program did you use to burn to the cd-rw in Windows? I know
 that Adaptec has this wonderful way of dragging and dropping through
 your Explorer to add files to it, and if you did it in this way, ONLY
 Adaptec can read the file. I had this problem one too about 3 years
 ago. It freaked me out, so the first thing I did then was to copy all
 my files to the HD via Windows, uninstall Adaptec (basicallt threw it
 straight in the bin afterwards), and then used Nero. Shortly
 afterwards I began with Linux and never looked back.
 
 Ralph
 
 On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi. I am having trouble reading a cd-rw cd. This is a brand new
  installation of 8.1. I am trying to look at a cd that was created in
  windows. My Sony crx0811 seems to see cd-r but not cd-rw. It mounts
  but shows only two files: autorun.inf and udfrinst.exe. -Jeff




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Re: Re[2]: [newbie] cd-rw

2002-01-28 Per discussione thedoghouse

Roman, thank you for your help. I was thinking there was 
something wrong with the setup of Mandrake, I really have so much 
to learn. I will check out the other Win programs for burning, I was 
just hoping to be lazy and transfer some files from my win box. -Jeff


On 28 Jan 2002, you wrote:

 Hi,
 
  I am having trouble reading a cd-rw cd. This is a brand new
  installation of 8.1. I am trying to look at a cd that was created
  in windows. My Sony crx0811 seems to see cd-r but not cd-rw. It
  mounts but shows only two files: autorun.inf and udfrinst.exe.
 
  With which program did you use to burn to the cd-rw in Windows? I
  know that Adaptec has this wonderful way of dragging and dropping
  through your Explorer to add files to it, and if you did it in this
  way, ONLY Adaptec can read the file. I had this problem one too
  about 3 years ago. It freaked me out, so the first thing I did then
  was to copy all my files to the HD via Windows, uninstall Adaptec
  (basicallt threw it straight in the bin afterwards), and then used
  Nero. Shortly afterwards I began with Linux and never looked back.
 
 You formatted the CD as UDF, either using DirectCD od PacketCD. As
 this works nice in Windows, I am not sure how to make it work in
 Linux. The two files there ensure that a proper driver for reading the
 CD is installed when the disc is inserted into a non-CD-RW drive under
 Windows. So you have two choices - either you check the docs (man) for
 mount and see if there is some kind of UDF file system mentioned and
 try to mount it with that, or you access the CD under Windows, copy
 the files to disk, perform a long or full format of the CD and
 then burn it the traditional way, using either WinOnCD, Easy CD
 Creator, Nero Burning Rom or similar programs.
 
 If you have more questions I'd be glad to help you.
 Roman
 
 
 





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Re: [newbie] KDE 3 and Mandrake 8.2

2002-01-28 Per discussione Tom Brinkman

On Sunday 27 January 2002 11:16 pm, Miark wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Nope. I mean I dunno, an' I've been usin 8.2 most all this year
  ;) Still don't have a clue ;  My best guess, is kde2.2.2,..
  2.2.17, maybe 2.2.18 kernel,

 That would be somewhat of a regression, don't you think?  :-)

 Mike

 Well, if you mean the kernel, it's currently 2.4.17 with some 
parts of 2.4.18 included. (yeah, brain fade on my part for typin 
2.2.17 ;)
  As for KDE3, Mandrake just announced on the cooker list that 8.2 
will not have KDE3, but it might be included on the extra CD's.
-- 
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RE: [newbie] Mounting an install of 8.1 or 8.2beta as RO to prevent any damage

2002-01-28 Per discussione Joe L. Casale

Well, what I am actually after is a single floppy with a slim FB kernel
(ip, and video mode hard coded) nano-X, and rwin. I am a complete
win2k/XP enviro, so I don't have NFS. This is a temp solution till I
figure out how to make the floppy! I forgot about about tmp...If I mount
my root as RO, I cant start X, and run rdesktop could I?
jlc

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:43 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] Mounting an install of 8.1 or 8.2beta as RO to
prevent any damage

I think you are going to be wanting to read up on NFS to mount your
server /
as a read-only partition.

You may also want to set these terminals up as diskless, and have /tmp
mounted as a ram disk.

Step 1 - read up on NFS. It can be quite complicated so you want to get
this
bit nailed down first...

-Original Message-
From:   Joe L. Casale [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, January 28, 2002 9:57 AM
To: Mandrake List
Subject:[newbie] Mounting an install of 8.1 or 8.2beta
as RO
to prevent any damage

I would like to make a few terminals, and these will only be
used
for
running Rdesktop.
I wanna be able to mount the root as RO and what ever else is
required
so even if the user turns the power off, the install would not
be
affected, nor run fsck at bootup.
Can anyone advise on all the procedures to do this?
I am only presuming that root needs to be RO, but like I said,
all
the
needed procedures should be outlined, I am just learning Linux
now.

The terminals are all IDE disks.

Thank you,
jlc

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RE: Re[2]: [newbie] cd-rw

2002-01-28 Per discussione FLYNN, Steve

Daft question, but what is UDF? I've never understood some of the odd types
of CD you can create.

 -Original Message-
 From: Roman Korcek [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:15 PM
 To:   Ralph Slooten
 Subject:  Re[2]: [newbie] cd-rw
 
 Hi,
 
  I am having trouble reading a cd-rw cd. This is a brand new
  installation of 8.1. I am trying to look at a cd that was created
  in windows. My Sony crx0811 seems to see cd-r but not cd-rw. It
  mounts but shows only two files: autorun.inf and udfrinst.exe.
 
  With which program did you use to burn to the cd-rw in Windows? I
  know that Adaptec has this wonderful way of dragging and dropping
  through your Explorer to add files to it, and if you did it in this
  way, ONLY Adaptec can read the file. I had this problem one too
  about 3 years ago. It freaked me out, so the first thing I did then
  was to copy all my files to the HD via Windows, uninstall Adaptec
  (basicallt threw it straight in the bin afterwards), and then used
  Nero. Shortly afterwards I began with Linux and never looked back.
 
 You formatted the CD as UDF, either using DirectCD od PacketCD. As
 this works nice in Windows, I am not sure how to make it work in
 Linux. The two files there ensure that a proper driver for reading the
 CD is installed when the disc is inserted into a non-CD-RW drive under
 Windows. So you have two choices - either you check the docs (man) for
 mount and see if there is some kind of UDF file system mentioned and
 try to mount it with that, or you access the CD under Windows, copy
 the files to disk, perform a long or full format of the CD and
 then burn it the traditional way, using either WinOnCD, Easy CD
 Creator, Nero Burning Rom or similar programs.
 
 If you have more questions I'd be glad to help you.
 Roman
 
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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-28 Per discussione Tom Harris

that is the laptop i've got.

tom.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: 27 January 2002 20:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


I think you have a Pentium 90, check this page too see if it fit what
you have in hand http://www.seindal.dk/rene/linux/echos.php3

You mentioned that you hit Enter at the main menu, have you tried
F1?
Type test or vgalo at the prompt.

Just a thought, can you use boot disk and start install with the 2nd
disk?

Robin

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Harris
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:20 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


 h... i don't know what machine i have got, how do i find
 out?  i would rather not install previous versions because i
 got this one packaged in a shop which cost £30!

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
 Sent: 27 January 2002 18:51
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


 Didn't you get a LILO: prompt on screen? If so, try typing
 Linux, or just hitting enter again.

 If your machine hung, then I suspect you might be trying to
 install a 586 compiled distribution on something which isn't
 quite a 586! If you are desperate, I can burn you a copy of
 mandrake 6.5 which I think would install onto a 486 based machine...


  -Original Message-
  From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:32 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
  that kind of worked. i got to the main menu screen, pressed
 enter and
  then just got a blank screen with Mandrake Linux 8.1 at the top.
  please help!
 
  tom.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin
  Sent: 27 January 2002 18:25
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  According to Linux-on-laptops, it is possible. Here is how
 
  To install Linux from at CD-Rom, you need the cable that comes with
  the computer to attach the floppy drive to the parallel port. The
  procedure is as follows. Turn the computer off. Place the
 CD drive in
  the bay, and connect the floppy drive to the parallel port with the
  cable. Fasten the screws firmly. Now turn the machine on
 and press F2
  to enter the setup. Find the configuration menu for integrated
  peripherals and change the mode of the parallel port to FDD mode.
  Initially it will probably be Uni-directional or
 Bi-directional.
  Save and exit the setup, and when the system boots, the now
 external
  floppy drive will be A:. From this point on your have a
 normal system
  with both floppy and CD-ROM drive and you can install as usual.
 
  If you want more information, here is the link
  http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/olivetti.html
 
  Hmmm, just a side note, judging from your model number, I
 am guessing
  it's Pentium 90, are you sure you want to put 8.1 on it?
 8.1 does take
  quite a bit of resource to run it smoothly.
 
 
  Robin
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
   Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:33 AM
   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
  
  
   Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform a
   Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install from
   that, rather than a CD.
  
 -Original Message-
 From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
  
 or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS doesn't
   recognise it!
  
 tom.
  
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris
 Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
  
  
 Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've
 checked and
   sadly
 it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-(
  
 Tom.
  
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 FLYNN, Steve
 Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
  
  
 Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot?
   It must be a truely
 ancient laptop if it doesn't.
  
 It's not a Dell Insprion is it?
  
 What normally happens is that the CDROM can be
   connected top the parallel
 port via a special cable which carries the signal and
   enough power for the
 drive
  
 -Original Message-
 From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM
   

RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-28 Per discussione Tom Harris

i have 40mb of ram. here is what the bios says about the processor (copied
exactly):

CPU [90mhz]: Pentium

i don't know whether that means pentium 1 or not but the website robin
suggested says that i have a Pentium 90.

tom.
p.s. i was worried that i would have to use another version but i don't know
whether PC WORLD would give me a refund and if they don't i would rather not
just chuck it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
Sent: 27 January 2002 20:35
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Upon boot-up, when the BIOS messages are being displayed, there are normally
messages informing you of the CPU speed, the type of processor detect, the
amount of detect RAM and so forth. What type of processor is detected? A
Pentium II hopefully.

Also, how much ram is installed in this laptop - you really want 32+ meg,
and ideally 64 or 128 if you wish to use some of the prettier window
managers.

I'm afraid we're going to be telling you that you should take the package
back to the shop and obtain a refund! :(

-Original Message-
From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

h... i don't know what machine i have got, how do i find out?  i
would
rather not install previous versions because i got this one packaged
in a
shop which cost £30!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
Sent: 27 January 2002 18:51
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Didn't you get a LILO: prompt on screen? If so, try typing Linux, or
just
hitting enter again.

If your machine hung, then I suspect you might be trying to install
a 586
compiled distribution on something which isn't quite a 586! If you
are
desperate, I can burn you a copy of mandrake 6.5 which I think would
install
onto a 486 based machine...


 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:32 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

 that kind of worked. i got to the main menu screen, pressed enter
and then
 just got a blank screen with Mandrake Linux 8.1 at the top.
please help!

 tom.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin
 Sent: 27 January 2002 18:25
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


 According to Linux-on-laptops, it is possible. Here is how

 To install Linux from at CD-Rom, you need the cable that comes
with the
 computer to attach the floppy drive to the parallel port. The
procedure
 is as follows. Turn the computer off. Place the CD drive in the
bay, and
 connect the floppy drive to the parallel port with the cable.
Fasten the
 screws firmly. Now turn the machine on and press F2 to enter the
setup.
 Find the configuration menu for integrated peripherals and change
the
 mode of the parallel port to FDD mode. Initially it will probably
be
 Uni-directional or Bi-directional. Save and exit the setup,
and when
 the system boots, the now external floppy drive will be A:. From
this
 point on your have a normal system with both floppy and CD-ROM
drive and
 you can install as usual.

 If you want more information, here is the link
 http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/olivetti.html

 Hmmm, just a side note, judging from your model number, I am
guessing
 it's Pentium 90, are you sure you want to put 8.1 on it? 8.1 does
take
 quite a bit of resource to run it smoothly.


 Robin

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN,
Steve
  Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:33 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform
  a Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install
  from that, rather than a CD.
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
  or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS
  doesn't recognise it!
 
 

Re: [newbie] cd-rw

2002-01-28 Per discussione Ralph Slooten

Don't forget to copy everything from the CD onto your HD before you install
Nero as it WILL uninstall Adaptec. Nero and Adaptec, actually anything and
Adaptec cannot live in harmony :-)

Good luck

Ralph

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's Adaptec. And I did drag and drop. I'll check out Nero, thanks for
 the help. -Jeff

 On 28 Jan 2002, you wrote:

  With which program did you use to burn to the cd-rw in Windows? I know
  that Adaptec has this wonderful way of dragging and dropping through
  your Explorer to add files to it, and if you did it in this way, ONLY
  Adaptec can read the file. I had this problem one too about 3 years
  ago. It freaked me out, so the first thing I did then was to copy all
  my files to the HD via Windows, uninstall Adaptec (basicallt threw it
  straight in the bin afterwards), and then used Nero. Shortly
  afterwards I began with Linux and never looked back.
 
  Ralph
 
  On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hi. I am having trouble reading a cd-rw cd. This is a brand new
   installation of 8.1. I am trying to look at a cd that was created in
   windows. My Sony crx0811 seems to see cd-r but not cd-rw. It mounts
   but shows only two files: autorun.inf and udfrinst.exe. -Jeff








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[newbie] kde 2.2.2

2002-01-28 Per discussione marvin

Hello.

kde was upgraded to 2.2.2 on the 21st November, yet MandrakeUpdate doesn`t
have it available.  why ?

Yes, I know I can install it manually, but if I wanted to do it that way, I
would have picked a basic distribution and isntalled it all from source.




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[newbie] Console Colors

2002-01-28 Per discussione JSheble

First of all, I'm new to the list.  I had been running Mandrake 7.1 for a 
few years, and just this weekend went ahead an upgraded to 8.1.  Even 
though I've been running the Linux for a few years, I rarely used it.  I 
originally had it set up as a router and firewall for my internal network, 
and so for the most part it just sat over in the corner.

I've recently moved everything to a LinkSys router, and no longer need the 
firewall or routing capabilities of this machine.  Instead of wasting the 
machine, I figured I'd tackle learning some of this Linux stuff, and that 
brings me here.

Todays question is dumb, it's not a very technical questions at all, just 
something of a pet peeve.  In my console, running in Mode 0x0122 (set in 
lilo.conf), when I do a ls listing, the blue has this irritating line over 
it.  I've gone into DIR_COLORS and tried changing the values there, but no 
matter, where-ever blue text falls, there's this line over it.  For the 
time being I've removed all the references to blue, and have changed them 
to other colors, but I'd like to use the blue for some other console 
things.  How do I get rid of that line?  It's not there if I run in regular 
80x25 mode, but then everything is just so gosh durned big...

thanx...





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RE: [newbie] Mounting an install of 8.1 or 8.2beta as RO to prevent any damage

2002-01-28 Per discussione FLYNN, Steve

Is there any reason why the workstations have to be runing under slim kernel
and nano-X. I think there are packages out there which allow an X desktop
ontop of Windows - all of the processing is done on the servers - the client
just displays the X desktop environment.

If you don't need X, you can simply ssh or telnet into your server from
within windows, but from your description it sounds like you want to run an
X environment.

-Original Message-
From:   Joe L. Casale [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, January 28, 2002 4:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [newbie] Mounting an install of 8.1 or 8.2beta
as RO to prevent any damage

Well, what I am actually after is a single floppy with a slim FB
kernel
(ip, and video mode hard coded) nano-X, and rwin. I am a complete
win2k/XP enviro, so I don't have NFS. This is a temp solution till I
figure out how to make the floppy! I forgot about about tmp...If I
mount
my root as RO, I cant start X, and run rdesktop could I?
jlc

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:43 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] Mounting an install of 8.1 or 8.2beta as RO to
prevent any damage

I think you are going to be wanting to read up on NFS to mount your
server /
as a read-only partition.

You may also want to set these terminals up as diskless, and have
/tmp
mounted as a ram disk.

Step 1 - read up on NFS. It can be quite complicated so you want to
get
this
bit nailed down first...

-Original Message-
From:   Joe L. Casale [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, January 28, 2002 9:57 AM
To: Mandrake List
Subject:[newbie] Mounting an install of 8.1 or
8.2beta
as RO
to prevent any damage

I would like to make a few terminals, and these will only be
used
for
running Rdesktop.
I wanna be able to mount the root as RO and what ever else
is
required
so even if the user turns the power off, the install would
not
be
affected, nor run fsck at bootup.
Can anyone advise on all the procedures to do this?
I am only presuming that root needs to be RO, but like I
said,
all
the
needed procedures should be outlined, I am just learning
Linux
now.

The terminals are all IDE disks.

Thank you,
jlc

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[newbie] Startup sound in KDE?

2002-01-28 Per discussione Mick

Hi list,

I am using KDE in LM 8.1. Each time I logged out I had the option checked to 
save and restore session next time. Then one evening, logging out in a hurry 
I accidentally unchecked it. the result was the next time I logged in my 
startup sound didn't play, and all the background images were gone on the 
desktops. I realised I had used the default option when I logged in. 
So now the question is, how do I get the startup sound to play again, (I 
liked it) and do I have to set the background images and so forth again also? 
Or, is there a way to access a log file lurking somewhere?
Thank you.
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[newbie] Startup sound has stopped?

2002-01-28 Per discussione Mick

Hi list,

I am using KDE in LM 8.1. Each time I logged out I had the option checked to save and 
restore session next time. Then one evening, logging out in a hurry I accidentally 
unchecked it. the result was the next time I logged in my startup sound didn't play, 
and all the background images were gone on the desktops. I realised I had used the 
default option when I logged in. 
So now the question is, how do I get the startup sound to play again, (I liked it) and 
do I have to set the background images and so forth again also? Or, is there a way to 
access a log file lurking somewhere?
Thank you.
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[newbie] kmail and Abiword problems mandrake 8.1

2002-01-28 Per discussione marvin

Hello again.

Well, I`ve already addressed the kde 2.2.2 upgrade question as Mandrake 8.1
comes with kde 2.2.1.

Originally, I had Mandrake 7.2.

Everything worked pretty well, printing etc.

Instead of doing an upgrade which I dislike in any OS, I removed the 7.2
H/D and put in a new H/D for the 8.1 installation.

It looks good, prints web pages really nice and PDF files.

Super.

So, this morning, I tried to do some WP with KWord.

Looks O.K. on the screen, ah, a preview button (new). Garbled mess.  I
print it out and the text is really close together, no spaces (that I can
see) and in bold.   This works fine in 7.2 kmail by the way.

So,  highlight cut and paste into AbiWord.  Refuses to paste.  I check the
clipboard, yes it`s there. It pastes into other text editors but not
AbiWord. Paste DOES work in AbiWord in Mandrake 7.2.

Anyone else seeing :-

a)  print problems from Kmail (v1.1 kde 2.2.1)
b)  pasting problems into AbiWord (v0.9.2 ditto)

Does kde 2.2.2 fix these problems ?

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Re: [newbie] Starting Apache + PHP

2002-01-28 Per discussione Andre Dubuc

On Saturday 26 January 2002 10:27, you wrote:
 On Saturday 26 January 2002 09:53 am, Andre Dubuc wrote:
  I've installed (in LM 8.0) all the appropriate Apache programs and
  modules, and all the PHP related stuff. In the LinuxConf - Service
  Control, I notice that apache is not listed, and both httpd and webmin
  are running.
 
  What do I have to do to get a working server so that I can test any
  code that I write in html/php? (Can I use my only computer as a
  stand-alone server, and access it as a client? I assume that I should be
  able to do something like that especially since freeciv sets up
  server/client on my machine.)
 
  If someone could point me in the right direction, it would save me wading
  through tons of documentation that assumes I have Apache up-and-running!
  Help?

 Andre, I'm a newbie too, but I think this is one question I can answer! If
 you have httpd running, then Apache is running. By default it installs the
 web documents in the directory /var/www/html. There is also
 /var/www/cgi-bin where all the scripts can go.

 You can access your web stuff by typing http://localhost in your browser.
 If you know your IP address, you can type that in as well. You should get a
 page telling about the version of Apache that you are running. That's just
 to let you know that the server is running.

 To avoid having to be root to add/change to your web directory, you have to
 add yourself to the group Apache. This can be done using UserDrake. Then,
 you should give the group write access to /var/www. Do this by typing
 chmod g+w /var/www. That gives the group write permissions to the
 directory. You may have to log out and back in for that to take effect, I'm
 not sure. Then you should be able to edit and write new stuff in your
 /var/www/html directory.

 If your users want to have web pages, they have to create a directory in
 their home directory called public_html. That's where they put all their
 web stuff. Then the user has to issue the command chmod 755 ~USERNAME.
 Then the user's directory can be reached by http://yourip/~username;.

 HTH,
 Todd


Hi Todd,

I've been struggling with the PHP module trying to get it to work. I've 
followed your instructions, but the Apache module doesn't seem to recognize 
PHP. I ran the test.php (? phpinfo() ; ?) and I just see the text as it is 
written here.

In the docs, they mention that I should ad AddType application/x-http-php 
.php in the http.conf. I'm not exactly sure where I should add this: I've 
placed it after the include statement in the Global Configuration. 
Problem is: in the Mime.types it doesn't show up. I can't get the AddType 
to work, so of course, PHP is non-functional in any test.

I've d/l the newest stable version of PHP, followed all the instructions 
(with/without, in various combinations, the following: Mysql, Postgresql, 
Apache. PHP) I've tried the bare-bones approach: only Apache and PHP - 
installing PHP 1st, then Apache first from LM8.0.  Nothing seems to work. I 
do get the Apache splash screen. I've loaded Webmin, and then removed it with 
little effect. (I've followed PHP instructions --with-mysql=/path. ...)

This is becoming an obsession -- almost like my attempts with HylaFax!

If you have any ideas on how to get PHP up-and-running, I'd greatly 
appreciate your assistance. I can't develop my new web-site until I get PHP 
functional.

Perhaps you could send me a copy of your (working) httpd.conf and php.ini 
files so I could maybe see what I've messed up. (Btw, in my last LM8.0 
install of PHP, I couldn't find php.ini anywhere.

Sorry to be so long-winded, but this is . . .  sigh!

Tia,
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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-28 Per discussione FLYNN, Steve

That's a Pentium I I believe.

I suspect that the packages it's going to install, if you ever get it to
install, are all optimised for Pentium II's. I don't even know if they will
work correctly?

Would you like me to burn you a copy of MDK 6.5 and post it to you, so you
can at least get something installed?

-Original Message-
From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, January 28, 2002 4:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

i have 40mb of ram. here is what the bios says about the processor
(copied
exactly):

CPU [90mhz]: Pentium

i don't know whether that means pentium 1 or not but the website
robin
suggested says that i have a Pentium 90.

tom.
p.s. i was worried that i would have to use another version but i
don't know
whether PC WORLD would give me a refund and if they don't i would
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Re: [newbie] HP Printers

2002-01-28 Per discussione Randy Kramer

Roman Korcek wrote:
 I disagree... according to www.linuxprinting.org their suport is fine.
 Let me quote,
 As for the DeskJets, HP recently released an open-source driver kit
 for the bulk of its modern consumer DeskJet line. After finishing a
 lengthy patent search, with version 1.0.1 they made it free software
 by removing the for usage with HP products only from the BSDish
 license. So HP is near the top of the heap in terms of free software
 support for its inkjet devices (Free software driving Epson Photo
 printers still produces better color quality).
 (taken from http://www.linuxprinting.org/vendors.html#hp )
 I personally haven't tried their HPIJS driver yet, but I think HP is
 on a good way. Epson might have better quality (under Linux), though.

Just feel like putting my $.02 in:

Ink jet printer manufacturer's mostly follow the razor blade business
model.  They practically give away the printer (in some cases) but
charge outrageously for the ink cartridges.  I consider HP especially
bad at this (but maybe Xerox is even worse -- the cartridge my uncle got
with his printer looked big, but I had occasion to take it apart
(destructively), and the ink reservoir is on the order of 1/10 the size
that you might have expected -- but you can's see that until you peel
the paper wrappings off the cartridge.

The way to get around the problem is to refill cartridges.  Some
companies (like Hewlett Packard) make that very difficult.  Canon (in
most cases) makes it fairly easly.  I'm now using a Canon BJC-3000 with
cartridges that are very easy to refill.  For a while, I carried a
portable Canon printer (that could be battery powered) -- don't remember
the model, but its cartridges were even easier to refill -- take the
cartridge out, turn it upside down to expose the sponge, and drip ink
unto the sponge.  (The Canon BJC-3000 has a sponge exposed at the
bottom, but the recommended refill procedure is to inject ink through a
hole, then reseal the hole to make it airtight.

16 oz. of ink for $10 goes a very long way (although $10 is still a high
price, it's a whole lot cheaper buying it that way than buying 16 oz. in
prefilled cartridges.

When my uncle went to buy a printer, I gave him a list of a few that
looked like they could be refilled through the sponge like the Canon. 
He chose the Xerox which has been a disappointment -- it's not as easy
as I thought it would be.

I recommend Canon.  (Disclaimer -- I have never tried to do a photo
quality print, so I have no basis to judge whether Canon is good or bad
for that purpose.  For ordinary text, with some graphics and colors, the
model I have works great.  They do have more expensive printers that are
intended to be photo quality.)

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Re: [newbie] Running a shell script at boot

2002-01-28 Per discussione Hal Wigoda

Cool.

 
 This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
 
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 Content-Type: text/plain
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
 Thanks Hal,
 
 That did the trick.
 
 cheers
 Brian
 
 On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 20:26, Hal Wigoda wrote:
  
  Put it in the  /etc/rc3.d
  directory
  and label it as starting with S
  and it will be run at startup.
  
   This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
   
   =_1012203894-762-3426
   Content-Type: text/plain
   Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
   
   I have written a shell script I would like to run as root at boot time. 
   Where do I put the command to run it?
   
   thanks
   Brian
   
   
   
   
   
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Re: [newbie] printing to tcp/ip port

2002-01-28 Per discussione Derek Jennings

On Saturday 26 January 2002 13:34, Evert van den Bos wrote:
 Hello everybody,

 I would like to install my HP 970 cxi printer in Mandrake but I want to
 assign it to a tcp/ip port. My printer is not attached to the Mandrake box
 but to a freesco box acting as a printer server. In windows this is fairly
 simple. I just install the printer as if it was attached to my PC
 (ingnoring messages the device is not found). Then I change the assigned
 lpt1 port to the TCP/IP port ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). This port is created with
 the installment of an AXIS driver. It works great in Windows and I would
 like to do the same in Mandrake. But I have no idea how, and didn't find
 any clues on the web yet.

 Thanks.

 Evertb

If you add your printer using the CUPS web tool 
(http://localhost:631/printers)  you will see one of the options is to use 
'Internet Printing Protocol', and then on the next page it shows some example 
addresses
socket://hostname:9100
socket://hostname

I've never needed to use it, but this looks like what you need.

HTH

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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-28 Per discussione Robin

8.1 should work fine, I have a working 8.1 on a P166 with 56MB of RAM.
However, what you can do with it is limited, try using a lighter WM.
Maybe you want to get a copy of 6.5 or 7 from Steve as I am in Canada (a
bit far compared with Steve).

BTW, did you ever get the installation started?

Robin

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:18 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
 That's a Pentium I I believe.
 
 I suspect that the packages it's going to install, if you 
 ever get it to install, are all optimised for Pentium II's. I 
 don't even know if they will work correctly?
 
 Would you like me to burn you a copy of MDK 6.5 and post it 
 to you, so you can at least get something installed?
 
   -Original Message-
   From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent:   Monday, January 28, 2002 4:32 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
   i have 40mb of ram. here is what the bios says about 
 the processor (copied
   exactly):
 
   CPU [90mhz]: Pentium
 
   i don't know whether that means pentium 1 or not but 
 the website robin
   suggested says that i have a Pentium 90.
 
   tom.
   p.s. i was worried that i would have to use another 
 version but i don't know
   whether PC WORLD would give me a refund and if they 
 don't i would rather not
   just chuck it.
 
 
 
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[newbie] Ram .. Where is it going ??

2002-01-28 Per discussione David

 I have an SMP PIII system running Mandrake 8.1 with (was 512M ram) however 
while working on an image in the GIMP i was shocked to discovered my ram was 
at 99% and 7% swap. OK the image was 100M in size but what about the rest.
After i have finished and have closed down GIMP etc not all my ram returns.
Now i have added another 512 M of ram  the system is at 16% in use ... but if 
i load a large image it goes well over the amount of it needs and after eg 87%
however once i close the image and gimp, ram seems only to go down to around 
61%.
Is there a way to get all this now un-used ram back. On the Amiga there is a 
command called avail flush which can get back un-used ram, is there 
something on Linux to do this??
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RE: [newbie] Benefits of using XFS...

2002-01-28 Per discussione Derek Jennings

If you look in the archives Civileme wrote about the file systems and had
favourable things to say about XFS. I have been using it since 8.1 on all
three of my computers, and have had absolutely zero problems with it, even
after a non graceful power down. I use it with NFS without any issue, where I
believe ReiserFS has some sort of problem.
If you network to NT clients with Samba, XFS has some advantages to do with
ACL, (but I have never needed to do that)

HTH

derek


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Hi folks!!! Due to a not recoverable error I had to re-install LM 8.1

I was doing a very long reading in a lot of docs about differents Journalled
FS and I'm wondering which would be the best to use on a workstation in a
Seagate IDE drive of 20 gb aprox.

However, In accord with the conclusions I have through my readings I think
that the best one for either workstations or servers is XFS.

I wanna hear your experiences with XFS or your thoughts about using it.

Thanks in advance

Nicolás Gómez
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Re: [newbie] kmail and Abiword problems mandrake 8.1

2002-01-28 Per discussione skinky

On Tuesday 29 January 2002 06:33, marvin wrote:
[snip]
 So, this morning, I tried to do some WP with KWord.

 Looks O.K. on the screen, ah, a preview button (new). Garbled mess.  I
 print it out and the text is really close together, no spaces (that I can
 see) and in bold.   This works fine in 7.2 kmail by the way.

 So,  highlight cut and paste into AbiWord.  Refuses to paste.  I check the
 clipboard, yes it`s there. It pastes into other text editors but not
 AbiWord. Paste DOES work in AbiWord in Mandrake 7.2.

 Anyone else seeing :-

 a)  print problems from Kmail (v1.1 kde 2.2.1)
 b)  pasting problems into AbiWord (v0.9.2 ditto)

If you mean kword (not kmail) then yep, I've had the same problems with both 
LM8.0 and 8.1.

 Does kde 2.2.2 fix these problems ?

Don't know, still using kde 2.2.1.

I gave up on kword because I couldn't get the printing side of it sorted, a 
real shame because I really liked kword for WP.  I use OpenOffice.org instead.

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Re: [newbie] kmail and Abiword problems mandrake 8.1

2002-01-28 Per discussione Michel Clasquin

On Monday 28 January 2002 19:33, marvin wrote:

 b)  pasting problems into AbiWord (v0.9.2 ditto)

You *will* have problems trying to cut and paste between QT and GTK 
programs.  Try this instead: have both apps open. highlight the text you 
want to transfer. Do NOT press ctrl-c or choose copy from the menu. 
Click once on the other app to change the focus, but be careful not to 
click-drag and create a new selection. Now click the middle button and 
your text will be transferred. If you have a 2-button mouse, click left 
and right simultaneously.

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Re: [newbie] Multimedia-v.low sound volume?

2002-01-28 Per discussione skinky

On Monday 28 January 2002 23:49, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
 The man's a genius, sort of! I had the speakers plugged into the
 headphones socket and sweet nothing was coming from the speakers. At
 least with the  correct hole chosen I can just hear the sound, if I hold
 the speaker to my ear.

Well sounds like you're getting there... umm... I would try running sndconfig 
again and then open kmix and check the volume settings.  The only red light 
(mute) in kmix should be on microphone.

Now that you've got sound, albeit very low volume, check the mailing list 
archives as I recall others had very low volume and they did find a solution.

Good luck

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Re: [newbie] HP Printers

2002-01-28 Per discussione Lee

On Monday 28 January 2002 01:21 pm, you wrote:
 Roman Korcek wrote:
  I disagree... according to www.linuxprinting.org their suport is fine.
  Let me quote,
  As for the DeskJets, HP recently released an open-source driver kit
  for the bulk of its modern consumer DeskJet line. After finishing a
  lengthy patent search, with version 1.0.1 they made it free software
  by removing the for usage with HP products only from the BSDish
  license. So HP is near the top of the heap in terms of free software
  support for its inkjet devices (Free software driving Epson Photo
  printers still produces better color quality).
  (taken from http://www.linuxprinting.org/vendors.html#hp )
  I personally haven't tried their HPIJS driver yet, but I think HP is
  on a good way. Epson might have better quality (under Linux), though.

 Just feel like putting my $.02 in:

 Ink jet printer manufacturer's mostly follow the razor blade business
 model.  They practically give away the printer (in some cases) but
 charge outrageously for the ink cartridges.  I consider HP especially
 bad at this (but maybe Xerox is even worse -- the cartridge my uncle got
 with his printer looked big, but I had occasion to take it apart
 (destructively), and the ink reservoir is on the order of 1/10 the size
 that you might have expected -- but you can's see that until you peel
 the paper wrappings off the cartridge.

 The way to get around the problem is to refill cartridges.  Some
 companies (like Hewlett Packard) make that very difficult.  Canon (in
 most cases) makes it fairly easly.  I'm now using a Canon BJC-3000 with
 cartridges that are very easy to refill.  For a while, I carried a
 portable Canon printer (that could be battery powered) -- don't remember
 the model, but its cartridges were even easier to refill -- take the
 cartridge out, turn it upside down to expose the sponge, and drip ink
 unto the sponge.  (The Canon BJC-3000 has a sponge exposed at the
 bottom, but the recommended refill procedure is to inject ink through a
 hole, then reseal the hole to make it airtight.

 16 oz. of ink for $10 goes a very long way (although $10 is still a high
 price, it's a whole lot cheaper buying it that way than buying 16 oz. in
 prefilled cartridges.

 When my uncle went to buy a printer, I gave him a list of a few that
 looked like they could be refilled through the sponge like the Canon.
 He chose the Xerox which has been a disappointment -- it's not as easy
 as I thought it would be.

 I recommend Canon.  (Disclaimer -- I have never tried to do a photo
 quality print, so I have no basis to judge whether Canon is good or bad
 for that purpose.  For ordinary text, with some graphics and colors, the
 model I have works great.  They do have more expensive printers that are
 intended to be photo quality.)

 Randy Kramer


Hey Randy

For your Dad.

I have a xerox workcentre and found the same cartridges of which you speak.

My answer was to find a wall directly into the reservoir and drill a small 
hole.  I filled the reservoir through a hypodermic, then screwed a #4 machine 
screw into the hole, sealing my entry.  Bingo!

I have contacted xerox (lower case intentional) about Linux support and 
inferred from the response (none) that my Windows box has a purpose in life 
until the printer dies.

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RE: [newbie] How to work PCMCIA

2002-01-28 Per discussione Derek Jennings

Well first check you have rpm kernel-pcmcia-cs loaded.

Next check your pcmcia cards are able to be recognised. In a root terminal 
type
probe
You should  then be told which model of pcmcia bus adapter you have fitted, 
and how many sockets.

Next open Mandrake Control CenteHardwareNetwork cards
Is your pcmcia card shown? If it is and a kernel module is shown then your 
card almost certainly is already working, you just need to assign IP addresses 
etc.

If it is not listed then look for /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia
The first line of this file should read
PCMCIA=yes
the second line will probably say
PCIC=i82365

Next take a look at /etc/modules.conf

It should contain the line
pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f  /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start

If that is all OK then your computer should automatically recognise the pcmcia 
card on boot and insert the correct module.

Note : Netconf will NOT show the module. That does not mean it is not working. 
You can still use Netconf to set IP address etc.  HardDrake WILL show the 
module

HTH

derek



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i wanna use PCMCIA for 3com 5C589C with mandrake 8.1 at Vaio C1XE

but it's not working now
what i have to check it??


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[newbie] Urpmi Problems

2002-01-28 Per discussione NDPTAL85

For some reason whenever I add a source to my urpmi database it becomes 
corrupted in a way that won't let me update it. For example no matter 
which Cooker source I add, whenever I use urpmi.update to update it I 
get this back:

[root@Dreadnaught ndptal85]# urpmi.update
the entry to update is missing
(one of ¨K)


Now this is really strange because I keep clearing and adding the 
sources but urpmi can never find them when it comes to updating them. 
When I use them to install something however it DOES work.








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Re: [newbie] CD burning setup

2002-01-28 Per discussione Derek Jennings

I'm coming in a bit late here, but here are a couple of suggestions :-

1/ You do not need to use CDwriting software as root so long as you set it up 
correctly.
Create a group called cdwriter or somesuch, make yourself and any other 
required users members of that group. Edit the permissions of
/usr/bin/cdrecord  /usr/bin/cdparanoia /usr/bin/mkisofs /usr/bin/cdda2wav
/usr/bin/mpg123 /usr/bin/readcd

to give read and execute permissions to the cdwriter group.

You can test access to the cdwriter by opening a terminal and typing
cdrecord -scanbus
Try this as a normal user, and as root. It should report the existence of 
your drive in both cases.

2/ In some computers the cdwriter will not work with devfs enabled. If 
cdrecord -scanbus did not work even as root then amend your lilo to read 
append= hdc=ide-scsi devfs=nomount

Then run lilo with /sbin/lilo and reboot

If this fixes the problem you might find you can no longer play audio CD's
To fix this new fault create a symlink
ln -s /dev/hdx /dev/cdrom   where hdx is the IDE reference for your cd-Rom
HTH

derek




On Saturday 26 January 2002 22:27, you wrote:
 I've done mostly as suggested. As mentioned in my original post, 'ls -l
 /dev/cdrom' gave 'No such file or directory', so I did this:
 # ln /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom
 # ln /dev/hdd /dev/cdrom2

 Edited /etc/modules and /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
 /etc/lilo.conf already had 'append= hdc=ide-scsi devfs=mount so I left
 it.

 Now, running GCombust as root, when I do 'check scsi settings' I get
 'cdrecord failed to recognise selected drive (wrong scsi settings or no
 permission to device)!'
 How can root not have rights to a device?
 How can I get such a range of errors? (I left out all the problems I have
 had logging in this evening, kde complaining about failing to set up
 interprocess communication, dcop server not running, mouse services and
 named failing on closedown, etc.).

 Help!

 Richard

 LPH, Saturday 26 January 2002 18:18:
  Hello,
 
  I'm assuming that you have not set up the drive correctly because the
  permissions error is shown for almost everything.  I'm sorry if that is
  the wrong assumption.  Also, many Linux burning software programs require
  the root (GASP). So, my suggestion is to test your software under root
  and see if it works there.  If yes, then set permissions for the users
  and try there.  If it doesn't work under root then follow the steps
  below.
 
  * NOTE 
   I found these steps on the MandrakeUser.org site and combined it with
  some other messages from other people.  Plus I added my own experiences. 
  These steps might help you pick through your files to make sure that the
  drive is set up correctly.
 
  The girls of TuxReports are writing a much easier to read HOWTO that will
  be on the site soon.  For now, you'll have to live with my notes (sorry)
 
  __
 
  A Mini-HOWTO
  __
 
  1. Find out which is the real device name for your burner.
 
  Type  ls -l /dev/cdrom
  Usually it will be /dev/hdc  (second channel, first device)
 
  If you have 2 cdroms with the burner as slave on the secondary channel it
  is usually /dev/hdd.
 
  2. As root, edit the /etc/modules.conf file and add this line:
  alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
 
  3. As root, edit /etc/lilo.conf add the line
  append=hdc-ide-scsi (or if hdd then append=hdd-ide-scsi) to the
  section starting with image={}
 
  4. Then type lilo at the console.
 
  5. Edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local and put the line
  modprobe ide-scsi into it.
 
  6. REBOOT
 
  7. This should do it.
 
  Even though I follow the above steps, my scsi emulation still didn't
  work. Therefore, after editing the files I ended up using drakconf and
  having Mandrake set up LILO there because step 4 added a bunch of garbage
  into my lilo.conf.
 
  Now to test the installation:
  Place a CD into the burner and mount it as root.  mount /dev/scd0 -t auto
  /mnt/cd Your IDE drive should be handled like a SCSI CD-RW. Plus you
  should be able to use a burner program.
 
  BTW:  All of the editing must be done as root.  If you do not feel
  comfortable with vi or vim, then use Kate.  I tried this sequence last
  night...while in a terminal window
 
  Kate /etc/lilo.conf ... which brings up in the file in the Kate window.
 
  Hope this helps and good luck!  Let us know how things fair.
   -- LPH
 
  Begin forwarded message:
 
  Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 15:09:29 +
  From: RichardA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [newbie] CD burning setup
 
 
  I'm trying to set up GCombust, but I seem to have a problem with
  permissions:
 
  GCombust, copying from my DVD (/dev/hdd), gives Could not read number of
  tracks from audio CD (but I don't think it's even trying).
  'Dump CD' in GCombust gives while opening /dev/hdd :Permission denied
 
  I've set up my DVD drive (slave on second IDE interface) in Gnome
  Toaster, but it doesn't list any tracks.
 
  I may have done these while 

[newbie] [FYI] Soundblaster Audigy support

2002-01-28 Per discussione Frans Ketelaars

You can download a Creative Soundblaster Audigy driver in .tar.gz format:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=44773 Have fun!

-Frans



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Re: [newbie] cd-rw

2002-01-28 Per discussione thedoghouse

Thanks Ralph, I am going to search the internet for freeware for cd 
burning. I have found over the years that often the best solution 
does not come from a big company. I have to be careful though, as 
my wife likes the Windows box just the way it is. -Jeff


On 28 Jan 2002, you wrote:

 Don't forget to copy everything from the CD onto your HD before you
 install Nero as it WILL uninstall Adaptec. Nero and Adaptec, actually
 anything and Adaptec cannot live in harmony :-)
 
 Good luck
 
 Ralph
 
 On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It's Adaptec. And I did drag and drop. I'll check out Nero, thanks
  for the help. -Jeff
 
  On 28 Jan 2002, you wrote:
 
   With which program did you use to burn to the cd-rw in Windows? I
   know that Adaptec has this wonderful way of dragging and
   dropping through your Explorer to add files to it, and if you did
   it in this way, ONLY Adaptec can read the file. I had this problem
   one too about 3 years ago. It freaked me out, so the first thing I
   did then was to copy all my files to the HD via Windows, uninstall
   Adaptec (basicallt threw it straight in the bin afterwards), and
   then used Nero. Shortly afterwards I began with Linux and never
   looked back.
  
   Ralph
  
   On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Hi. I am having trouble reading a cd-rw cd. This is a brand new
installation of 8.1. I am trying to look at a cd that was
created in windows. My Sony crx0811 seems to see cd-r but not
cd-rw. It mounts but shows only two files: autorun.inf and
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RE: [newbie] Ram .. Where is it going ??

2002-01-28 Per discussione Neil Davidson

if you load GIMP again you should see that it loads much faster then when it
did the first time, that's because of all the cache Linux is using.

On the register there is a story about the AthlonXP 2000+ vs. P4 2200Mhz
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23845.html)

One of his tests is to see how long GIMP takes to load, he also tests how
long it takes to load after it has been closed. this is a good illustration
of how caching is used

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 28 January 2002 23:53
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ram .. Where is it going ??


Last Sunday there was a post from Steve Flynn about 'unused memory':


As for seeing all of you memory in Use under Linux, this is perfectly
normal, and it a GOOD thing - Linux uses as much memory as it can to cache
stuff, to improve response time. Unused memory is wasted memory in Unix
parlance. If any programs request memory which is being used for buffering
or cache, then it will be released by the kernel and given to the requsting
task.

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Re: [newbie] name of 8.1 install file

2002-01-28 Per discussione Derek Jennings

You could try a network install.
If you have a broadband connection you can create a boot disc and then boot 
from an ftp site.  The boot disc will try to get your Ethernet interface 
working, and then ask you for an ftp address to load from.
Here is one you might try
ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/pub/linux/mandrake/8.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
(you might only need ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/pub/linux/mandrake/8.1/i586   )

Instructions can be found on the boot CD in the file  install.htm

Never tried it myself, and it will be ssllooww

derek



On Monday 28 January 2002 01:52, Brian Parish wrote:
 Don't think you can get around it that way.  Only 2 possibilities I can
 think of:

 1: Get a cable to allow you to connect the CD drive externally while the
 floppy is installed (if the machine has an external connection you can
 plug into)

 2: Get a BIOS upgrade.  Have you looked for these?  Even a relatively
 old bios may have been upgraded to allow a CD boot.

 Brian

 On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 04:11, Tom Harris wrote:
  I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having trouble
  installing.  The problem is that my laptop as a space for a floppy drive
  and CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my BIOS won't
  allow me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and CD at
  once I can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is to go
  into dos or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it is.
  Please could someone reply and tell me the name of the file.
 
  Tom.
 
 
 
  
 
 
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Re: [newbie] HP Printers

2002-01-28 Per discussione Ralph Slooten

Sorry, this question was not directed to me, however I have a Canon C80 and
it's great :-) Up to 12800x1440 dpi, so pretty much photo-quality I would
say. It's a fairly new one, so it would not be the one you bought your
mother.

Maybe it's misconfigured (although I doubt that)? What's the quality of the
printer (dpi)? I still find it hard to believe that any printer bought
within the last couple of years would give terrible quality, unless there
is something wrong. OK, there is a big difference between fair quality,
good quality, and excellent quality, however terrible quality reminds me of
my HP DeskJet 670C... now that's bad quality. At least now it it... when I
got it text printing was pretty clear, but with wair-and-tear it's
deteriorated drastically.

Ralph

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Todd Slater wrote:

 On Monday 28 January 2002 01:21 pm, Randy Kramer wrote:

 snip

  I recommend Canon.  (Disclaimer -- I have never tried to do a photo
  quality print, so I have no basis to judge whether Canon is good or bad
  for that purpose.  For ordinary text, with some graphics and colors, the
  model I have works great.  They do have more expensive printers that are
  intended to be photo quality.)
 
  Randy Kramer

 Just curious, Randy, what model Canon do you have? I bought a Canon bubble
 jet (don't remember the model) for my mother about a year ago and it prints
 text miserably--a big disappointment.

 Todd








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[newbie] mailing list manager help

2002-01-28 Per discussione Todd Slater

Has anybody on the list had any luck at setting up mailman or sympa? I'm 
trying but can't find any documentation (man or help) and the web sites 
haven't proven useful.

TIA
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Re: [newbie] HP Printers

2002-01-28 Per discussione Randy Kramer

Lee wrote:
 My answer was to find a wall directly into the reservoir and drill a small
 hole.  I filled the reservoir through a hypodermic, then screwed a #4 machine
 screw into the hole, sealing my entry.  Bingo!

Lee,

Thanks for the response.  I'll have to get the model number of the Xerox
printer again and then write back to you -- I did something similar
before I did the destructive analysis of the cartridge.  It seems that
we had trouble getting the printer to recognize that the cartridge was
full again -- it often acted like it was still empty.  Every once in a
while I did the right thing and got a refilled cartridge to work ok. 
Never really found out if had some kind of something built into the
cartridge to keep it from being refilled (like eprom or something).

Did you have any trouble like that?  

regards,
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Re: [newbie] kde 2.2.2

2002-01-28 Per discussione Anuerin G.Diaz


i reckon its not yet considered 'stable' and 'relatively bug-free'. dont the cooker 
sites have it yet?

ciao!

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 Hello.
 
 kde was upgraded to 2.2.2 on the 21st November, yet MandrakeUpdate doesn`t
 have it available.  why ?
 
 Yes, I know I can install it manually, but if I wanted to do it that way, I
 would have picked a basic distribution and isntalled it all from source.
 
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[newbie] Transfer Mandrake 8.1 to new computer

2002-01-28 Per discussione Eric McRae

I am planning on purchasing a new mobo/processor shortly and was
wondering if I should plan on a re-install or not?
Any info would be appreciated.

Also... any known issues with MSI mobo's?

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] OT AOL and Linux

2002-01-28 Per discussione Anuerin G.Diaz

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 23:25:59 -0500
daRcmaTTeR [EMAIL PROTECTED] revealed these words to me:

 On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:36:07 -0500
 Anuerin G.Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:
 
  
  seems like it AOL was _not_ buying RH, but a merger in the future may
  happen...
  
  http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/020122/n22119518_2.html
  
  ciao!
 
 That is just _SO_ wrong!

i think i banged my head on the desk too hard but what was '_SO_ wrong!' ? was the 
link i posted a FUD?

ciao!

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[newbie] WINE In LM 8.0

2002-01-28 Per discussione Robert Todd

Hey all.  This is actually my first query to this group. =)

I am running LM 8.0 alongside Win2K Advanced Server.  I am wondering how
I can get WINE to work in this setup (ie use 2K's DLLs if possible).

TIA!
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Re: [newbie] cd-rw

2002-01-28 Per discussione Joseph Braddock

It sounds like you have used DirectCD to record your CDRWs.  To view them 
under Linux, make a directory under /mnt called something like udf (or 
whatever you like).  Next, as root, edit /etc/fstab and duplicate the line in 
it for your CDROM except where it says either auto or ISO9660, change that to 
udf.  Save and exit fstab.  I usually mount from a prompt, to do so, you may 
have to do a umount /mnt/cdrom first and then issue a mount /mnt/udf (or 
whatever you called it).  You should have your files.

Joe

On Sunday 27 January 2002 05:53 pm, you wrote:
 Hi. I am having trouble reading a cd-rw cd. This is a brand new
 installation of 8.1. I am trying to look at a cd that was created in
 windows. My Sony crx0811 seems to see cd-r but not cd-rw. It
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Re: [newbie] OT AOL and Linux

2002-01-28 Per discussione shane

or maybe it was just the thought that future AOL cd's mass mailed to the 
world would, upon insertion in a winbox, say:

this will install the AOL internet client, press ok to repartition your 
harddrive.   :-D

On Tuesday 29 January 2002 09:25, you spoke unto me thusly:

 i think i banged my head on the desk too hard but what was '_SO_ wrong!' ?
 was the link i posted a FUD?

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Re: [newbie] applixware

2002-01-28 Per discussione Skippipix

well, I'm not talking from experience here

but, my understanding is that open office is the u...  i can't think of 
the word it's StarOffice, at least originally, but the code is open to 
the public to modify and improve.  so -- star office is only modifyed and 
worked on by Sun, but open office is worked on by anyone who wants to get 
involved.

am i right about that??  

i have the files to install the latest open office, but i haven't done it or 
tried it, simply because i have become attached to applix already and don't 
feel like having to go thru another conversion.  by that i mean that my #1 
use for my computer is writing, i am a writer.  under windows i used WordPro. 
 when converting to linux finding a word processor was my greatest need.  at 
the time i didn't know about open office.  i tried applix, star office 5.2, 
koffice and abiword.  i decided on applix and now all my writing is in that 
format.

if you are still looking for something you should check open office.  it may 
be really good.  i think star office is getting better  better, and open 
office might be even better simply because it is open to anyone to contribute.

it's free and you've nothing to loose.

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Re: [newbie] Book question.

2002-01-28 Per discussione Skippipix

i'm a big fan of books.

first, i recently discover the linux cookbook  do a google search, the 
whole text is available on the internet.  it's great.

second -- 'linux in a nutshell' from o'reilly.  this book is the bomb.  if 
you get no other, this is the one.  it has most all the commands in 
alphebetical order.  it also assumes you have an idea of what you are doing.  
it explains each command and all the opions for it, but assumes you know 
which command you are looking for.  it also has section on KDE, GNOME, 
package managers, LILO and other things.

third -- 'linux command instant reference' from Sybex.  it's organized in 
sections, such as archiveing, text files, audio, etc, so if you know what you 
are trying to do you can just flip to that section.

just my opinons
i could be full of it
=)

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Re: [newbie] OT AOL and Linux

2002-01-28 Per discussione Anuerin G.Diaz

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:58:56 -0800
shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] revealed these words to me:

 or maybe it was just the thought that future AOL cd's mass mailed to the 
 world would, upon insertion in a winbox, say:
 
 this will install the AOL internet client, press ok to repartition your 
 harddrive.   :-D
 
 On Tuesday 29 January 2002 09:25, you spoke unto me thusly:
 
  i think i banged my head on the desk too hard but what was '_SO_ wrong!' ?
  was the link i posted a FUD?
 
 -- 
 Microsoft: The company that made email dangerous.
 


ah! ok, thinking it that way AOL would be a greater demolition tool for Linux. hmmmnn, 
sounds like another good makings for a conspiracy theory. ;-)

ciao!

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Re: [newbie] HP Printers

2002-01-28 Per discussione Lee

On Monday 28 January 2002 07:13 pm, you wrote:
 Lee wrote:
  My answer was to find a wall directly into the reservoir and drill a
  small hole.  I filled the reservoir through a hypodermic, then screwed a
  #4 machine screw into the hole, sealing my entry.  Bingo!

 Lee,

 Thanks for the response.  I'll have to get the model number of the Xerox
 printer again and then write back to you -- I did something similar
 before I did the destructive analysis of the cartridge.  It seems that
 we had trouble getting the printer to recognize that the cartridge was
 full again -- it often acted like it was still empty.  Every once in a
 while I did the right thing and got a refilled cartridge to work ok.
 Never really found out if had some kind of something built into the
 cartridge to keep it from being refilled (like eprom or something).

 Did you have any trouble like that?

 regards,
 Randy Kramer

I have read that there are smart cartridges out there.  Given that the whole 
idea of cheap printers is to sell expensive ink, it makes a sort of warped 
sense, doesn't it!

Anyway, there's no surprises in mine except the shape fills 80% of the 
apparent ink space with air.  What a rip off.

I did find out that you need to fill the cartridge befor it is completely 
empty or right when the computer warns of impending doom.  I let it go dry 
the first time and the printing was iffy for days after.  Being my first 
refill try, I thought it was the ink I bought, but it cleared up and has 
worked fine through several more refills.

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[newbie] Copying Files to Floppy

2002-01-28 Per discussione Pauljames Dimitriu

I'm sure this is a very easy question to answer and
I'm being very brain deaded about it

How do you copy a file to a floppy drive via terminal?
 Is it cp filename /mnt/floppy?  Everytime I try
this and I do an ls in the /mnt/floppy directory, it
shows up.  However when I bring it to a Winblows
machine, I can't see the file.  

Help???

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Re: [newbie] Copying Files to Floppy

2002-01-28 Per discussione David Cooper

The cp command is

cp filename /mnt/floppy/

The forward slash is very important otherwise you are trying to create a file called 
floppy in the /mnt directory.  The directory entry floppy in /mnt is a symbolic link 
(in terms of winblows as short cut) to the actual device /dev/fd0.  This is assuming 
that your floppy is drive A.

Hope this helps.

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I'm sure this is a very easy question to answer and
I'm being very brain deaded about it

How do you copy a file to a floppy drive via terminal?
 Is it cp filename /mnt/floppy?  Everytime I try
this and I do an ls in the /mnt/floppy directory, it
shows up.  However when I bring it to a Winblows
machine, I can't see the file.  

Help???

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Re: [newbie] Copying Files to Floppy

2002-01-28 Per discussione Anuerin G. Diaz

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 23:06:17 -0800 (PST)
Pauljames Dimitriu [EMAIL PROTECTED] revealed these words to me:

 I'm sure this is a very easy question to answer and
 I'm being very brain deaded about it
 
 How do you copy a file to a floppy drive via terminal?
  Is it cp filename /mnt/floppy?  Everytime I try
 this and I do an ls in the /mnt/floppy directory, it
 shows up.  However when I bring it to a Winblows
 machine, I can't see the file.  
 
 Help???
 

you have to mount the floppy first ( something like mounting a CD). mounting places 
the 'mounted space' over the 'mounting point'. Whatever files in the 'mount point' is 
hidden until the 'mounted space' is unmounted. as of linux kernel 2.4.x, IIRC, you can 
use a mount point multiple times. to illustrate the point, assuming that you have  
test.txt on the directory /mnt/bogus and you will mount the windows partition (drive 
c:) on that directory. here is the sample output

[root@Ronin bogus]# pwd
/mnt/bogus
[root@Ronin bogus]# ls
test.txt
[root@Ronin bogus]# mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/bogus
[root@Ronin bogus]# ls
test.txt
[root@Ronin bogus]# cd ..
[root@Ronin mnt]# cd bogus
[root@Ronin bogus]# ls
autoexec.001*  command.com*  msdos.---*  scandisk.log*  videorom.bin*
autoexec.bat*  config.sys*   msdos.sys*  setuplog.old*  windows/
AUTOEXEC.BAT.bak*  detlog.txt*   My Documents/   setuplog.txt*
autoexec.nai*  dosime.sys*   netlog.txt* setupxlg.txt*
bootlog.prv*   Downloads/Program Files/  suhdlog.dat*
bootlog.txt*   io.sys*   recycled/   system.1st*
[root@Ronin bogus]# umount /dev/hda1
umount: /mnt/bogus: device is busy
[root@Ronin bogus]# cd ..
[root@Ronin mnt]# umount /dev/hda1
[root@Ronin mnt]# cd bogus
[root@Ronin bogus]# ls
test.txt


notice that when i mounted the drive c to the current directory, i was still able to 
list the contents of the /mnt/bogus. but when i moved to the parent directory and 
changed back, the listing shows the contents of my drive c. test.txt is still on the 
/mnt/bogus under the windows drive and was again visible when i unmounted my drive c.

am i talking sense? ;-)

ciao!

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[newbie] Perl problem

2002-01-28 Per discussione Robin Turner

This got bounced back to me for some reason .


Every time I've tried to install a perl program/module I get the 
following message:

Error: Unable to locate installed Perl libraries or Perl source code

This despite the fact that Mandrake (8.1) seems to have installedPerl 
in one of the locations looked for by the make program.

I trawled the archives for this one - could find the similar 
questions, but no answers.

Robin
-- 
Someone who re-invents the wheel will not take driving for granted.

Robin Turner
IDMYO, Bilkent Universitesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey

http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin



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