Re: [newbie] Linux Swap Partition
If you have more than one drive, and run different distros on each (as I do on this machine) you can define two swap partitions, once on each drive. In the respective /etc/fstab files you can define the multiple swaps. Both distros can use them and, to the extent that swap is used, performance will be improved. On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 12:47, David E. Fox wrote: Ah! That could prove interesting for a dual or triple boot scenario. Ive always assumed a swap was needed for every installation when it comes to linux. Yes, a swap partition should be there. But you don't need a separate swap partition for each OS, you can just use the same one. With both OSes in the dual boot being linux, you don't even have to do anything other than just point /etc/fstab on both distros to use the same swap partition. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fluxbox fbdesk WAS bbpager WAS [newbie] Fluxbox andbackground under 9.1
Todd, I'm running ROX 1.3.3 (from Mandrake) seems about the same, performance wise but, if I recall you were running a somewhat older version of Rox a few months ago. Do you have 'thumbnails' turned off? Derek, I'll take a look at bbpager..sound good. Derek, Todd et al. Meanwhile, I grabbed fbdesk from a 'contrib' mirror. 'S'pose to put icons on your fluxbox desktop, which it does, but they don't seem to be very functional. Wassup with this addon? You guys using it? Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 03:49, Derek Jennings wrote: Good. Like Todd I find the gap between fluxbox and KDE has narrowed with Mandrake 9.1. KDE is faster and fluxbox seems a little slower. But KDE is still not fast enough to make it comfortable to use on my low end laptop. While we are on the subject of fluxbox, I have an RPM of bbpager on my download page you might like to try. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=1 BBpager gives you a view of the contents of your desktops. You can even move windows from desktop to desktop with it. Invoke it with bbpager -n -c ~/.bbtools/bbpager.nobb in your ~/.fluxbox/startup file You will need to move the contents of /usr/share/bbtools to ~/.bbtools and edit the bbpager.nobb as required. I made these changes :- bbpager.desktopChangeButton: 1 bbpager.windowMoveButton:1 bbpager.windowFocusButton:3 bbpager.windowRaiseButton:3 derek On Friday 04 Apr 2003 4:12 am, Terry Smith wrote: They say the memory goes first :-)). So I checked some more and am answering my own question I had actually sent a msg to a new fluxbox convert several months ago. My knowledge, in turn came from something Derek had posted. Anyhow, to get fluxbox to see your 'startup' script you need a line in the ~/.fluxbox/init config file that says: session.screen0.rootCommand ~/.fluxbox/startup The file 'startup' must be executable. Works fine now. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 21:23, Terry Smith wrote: Derek, Todd and all you other fluxbox experts out there, Still probing 9.1 (the best yet IMHO ..in fact, on my 'minimalist' machine, I put CD1 in the drive, rebooted, left the house for 3 hours, came home, hit 'return' pulled the CD and had a system that worked perfectly [it was an update rather than a clean install but what the hey]) but I digress... I use fluxbox and rox in tandem as ably demonstrated by Derek and Todd some moths ago. The new fluxbox (fluxbox-0.1.14-6mdk but the same thing is true of texstar's 0.1.14 rpm) is 'overlaying' my desktop with a bsetbg coming from the selected theme. Said differently, although I've put a line in my 'startup' script like 'bsetbg -f ~/photos/picture_I_want' the actual background I get is that determined by the theme. I've tried commenting out the 'session.styleFile' line but that didn't work either. I thought maybe the Rox pinboard was interfering with background but it's turned off. Anybody seen/fixed this? TIA. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Fluxbox and background under 9.1
Derek, Todd and all you other fluxbox experts out there, Still probing 9.1 (the best yet IMHO ..in fact, on my 'minimalist' machine, I put CD1 in the drive, rebooted, left the house for 3 hours, came home, hit 'return' pulled the CD and had a system that worked perfectly [it was an update rather than a clean install but what the hey]) but I digress... I use fluxbox and rox in tandem as ably demonstrated by Derek and Todd some moths ago. The new fluxbox (fluxbox-0.1.14-6mdk but the same thing is true of texstar's 0.1.14 rpm) is 'overlaying' my desktop with a bsetbg coming from the selected theme. Said differently, although I've put a line in my 'startup' script like 'bsetbg -f ~/photos/picture_I_want' the actual background I get is that determined by the theme. I've tried commenting out the 'session.styleFile' line but that didn't work either. I thought maybe the Rox pinboard was interfering with background but it's turned off. Anybody seen/fixed this? TIA. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
FIXED: Re: [newbie] Fluxbox and background under 9.1
They say the memory goes first :-)). So I checked some more and am answering my own question I had actually sent a msg to a new fluxbox convert several months ago. My knowledge, in turn came from something Derek had posted. Anyhow, to get fluxbox to see your 'startup' script you need a line in the ~/.fluxbox/init config file that says: session.screen0.rootCommand ~/.fluxbox/startup The file 'startup' must be executable. Works fine now. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 21:23, Terry Smith wrote: Derek, Todd and all you other fluxbox experts out there, Still probing 9.1 (the best yet IMHO ..in fact, on my 'minimalist' machine, I put CD1 in the drive, rebooted, left the house for 3 hours, came home, hit 'return' pulled the CD and had a system that worked perfectly [it was an update rather than a clean install but what the hey]) but I digress... I use fluxbox and rox in tandem as ably demonstrated by Derek and Todd some moths ago. The new fluxbox (fluxbox-0.1.14-6mdk but the same thing is true of texstar's 0.1.14 rpm) is 'overlaying' my desktop with a bsetbg coming from the selected theme. Said differently, although I've put a line in my 'startup' script like 'bsetbg -f ~/photos/picture_I_want' the actual background I get is that determined by the theme. I've tried commenting out the 'session.styleFile' line but that didn't work either. I thought maybe the Rox pinboard was interfering with background but it's turned off. Anybody seen/fixed this? TIA. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] startx/Xtart?
Angus, They're both scripts..startx is at /usr/X11R6/bin and Xtart at /usr.bin.. so you can view them with 'less' or any editor. Although they both do the same job the code is somewhat different. Xtart (written by Civileme) seems pretty straightforward and will start X (xinit) according to the session scripts stored in wmsession.d. startx reads a number of initialization files including xinitrc before invoking xinit. In any case follow the code through to see how they differ with respect to starting up kde. Terry Smith On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 21:21, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I have a question regarding something quite mysterious, and I wonder if anyone out there can help me to understand what is going on here. I have been using Mdk Linux for several months now, and I have always had it configured to boot into X at start...a runlevel 5. Well, just today I thought I would change that and set it to start a runlevel 3. I am not quite so afraid of the cl now as I once was. :-) Anyway, what I have noted is that if I start x with the command Xtart, and then choose my default KDE, when KDE starts I get a black screen with the KDE3 graphic centered and then my familiar KDE desktop. What is different though is my fonts. They are very nice and crisp, and the same typeface as previous...except smaller. If I start x with the command startx, when KDE starts I get the familiar blue default background with the KDE3 graphic centered, and once more my familiar KDE desktop. This time however my fonts are larger. What is causing this? I actually increased the size of the fonts after the first start using Xtart. Is this being caused by differing screen refresh rates, or what? Where can I look to find my current refresh rate? (etc/X11/XF86Config-4 I can't fathom) I would truly appreciate any insight into this differing behaviour from Xtart to startx. TIA. Best regards. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing Tar.gz
I'm sure documentation is all over the distro but the procedure is straightforward. 1. uncompress the archive (tarball): tar xvzf pkg_to_be_installed.tar.gz A directory named 'pkg_to_be_installed' will be created inside the working directory. 2. change to that directory: cd pkg_to_be_installed Check to see if it's a 'standard' source protocol situation. There should be a file 'configure' that is executable and another file 'Makefile'. If so the next set of commands will finish things up. If not then write back to the list and include a listing of the new direcotry. BTW, there should be text files README' and INSTALL in the directory. Read them as they'll have specific instructions for compiling and installing the package. BTW2, you must have a compiler, gcc, the appropriate libraries, etc. installed. You get this by selecting 'development' during the installation of Mandrake. If you haven't installed this software do it now. You won't be able to proceed otherwise. 3. make sure you're logged in as root: su rtn root_password rtn 4. type './configure' (note the 'dot' before the 'slash') 5. If all OK, type 'make' 6. If all OK, type 'make install' You're done! On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 03:25, Marc Oestreicher wrote: I guess that I have led a blessed life until now and have never had to install anything that was not a Mandrake RPM packege. But now the time has arrived when I need to install a tar.gz I have looked around and so far have been unable to find any good documation explaining how to install a application from a tar.gz file. Anyone know of any good online doc's tutorials ect. ? Thanks -- Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Booting up without GUI in Mandrake 9.0
Instead of startx try the nice little program that our very own Civileme wrote - Xtart - this will run a script that allows you to choose which wm you want to use under X. Terry Smith On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 12:39, Paul wrote: In reply to Brian's mail, d.d. Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:15:44 -0500: If you are keen on command line stuff: as root, edit /etc/inittab and set the initial runlevel to 3. It is documented inside the file. When logged in, run startx to start X. Good luck! Paul I am told that some Linux distributions have a non-GUI mode where you can boot the computer and not have it automatically enter into the GUI, but simply launch the GUI when i would like to. Does mandrake have an option to do this? My Mandrake basic installation seems to almost require the GUI to be running. It boots into the GUI, and from the GUI there is no exit to a shell. -- A full cup must be carried steadily. -English proverb http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel-headers and VMWARE
Bart, You need to install the kernel source files for your running kernel. The old source won't do. Terry Smith On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 13:13, Bart Salien wrote: Hi all , I'm trying to install Vmware on my MDK9.0 , i get this message when he asks the dir for my C header file /usr/include The directory of kernel headers (version 2.4.18) does not match your running kernel (version 2.4.19-16mdk). Even if the module were to compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel. These header files are the ones that are installed by MDK 9.0 , and Vmware will not continue the install . On the net i found this kernel-headers-2.4.19-7mdk.x86_64.rpm . Can i remove the 2.4.18 headers and install this one , or could this cause problems for other programs ?? Thanks , Bart . __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW
FWIW, gentoo is an complete linux distribution that is entirely roll your own. It manages software via a ports system called the portage tree. Everything is downloaded in source form and must be compiled for your machine. As a result you have a very fast, clean system running only what you've specifically installed. It works well and I've been using it for 6 months. Version 1.4 is about to be released. BTW, there are several stages possible - stage 1 provides only a core (this is actually the iso image you've been speaking about) - you have to build a system from scratch; stage 2 has some additional parts and stage 3 is a minimal system. Of course, each successively numbered stage representa a larger download and less customization. For example, in the versions to date, you *must* download kernel source and compile your own kernel. Gentoo says that the final 1.4 release will change the basic installation philosophy and perhaps provide for a binary system that is functional out of the box. I don't know the details. There's no free lunch of course! There are least two drawbacks for such an approach. First installing major software systems takes a long time. The installation of KDE 3.1 from source, for example, takes about 4 hours on my Athlon XP 1700. The other disadvantage stems from my 'newbieness'you have to learn about packages on your own...since you have to select everything yourself you need to know the names (and maybe the class) of software packages to even find them in the portage tree. There are generic directories for say window-managers but it helps to know a bit about a program before you grab it. For me, gentoo is test system...they always have the latest version of pgms and if you want to move to a real gory bleeding edge kind of install you can override their 'masks' (which block software pkgs in devleopment or not fully tested) and really have fun! It is however, very fast, and everything I've installed works beautifully. Terry Smith On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 16:16, John Richard Smith wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 28 Feb 2003 5:58 pm, you wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 27 Feb 2003 6:05 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: OK , I attatch the file for everone John John, I'm really confused by this. First, I don't understand where Gentoo comes into the equation? You give the Gentoo url, then say download the iso from the partimage website. On the partimage website I could not see what you were recommending to download. There is an rpm for partimage on the distro, so what made you choose to download another? Having installed the rpm from Mandrake, I could quite happily use it as it stands, *except* that I can't see how the bootable image disk is made, and without it I can't see a restore being possible. I'm used to DriveImage, so I understand the process - I just can't see how it fits together with PartImage. Anne http://www.partimage.org/download.php3 http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc2/x86/ x86/livecd/gentoo-basic-x86-1.4_rc2.iso This download site is always busy, so chuck it into d4x and get it ti do a mirror search and choose one of them. I found several only just at the moment d4x seems unable to find any John I suppose you haven't yet seen a gento -basic-X86-1.4-rc2 boot disc. It's basically a 38 MB programme that creates for you a kernel for the purpose of loading into memory along with other programmes like partimage. You run the disc to the prompt and run the programme you want in our case partimage which is on the disc as well as other programmes, like fdisk or cfdisk. Like Partition Magic uses a boot floppy and a programme floppy, Gentoo uses a Boot CD with partimage on it . I see - so this is a cut-down Gentoo to provide the platform + partimage. It's downloading now, so we'll see how I go. Anne That's substancially right, it can also be used to install gentoo's OS . I don't know anything about that aspect, never having seen or heard of it before, but the gentoo boot disc which this is creates a kernel for your computer and you then go on to download the OS directory off the net, whether that download is a download of a whole bunch of rpm's which then have to be manually installed or whether you are in fact downloading and installing the binaries I don't know. Anyway we are interested in this Gentoo basic boot version for the purpose of creating a working kernel and installing partimage for backup purposes. Once the kernel is configured, it's quite quick, the kernel and partimage are loaded into memory, like all the best image backup programmes. That leaves you free to do anything to anything partition wise, with the added advantage for those who require it you can configure an internet connection and install image files over the net. John -- Terry Smith
Re: [newbie] Beta 3 and NVIDIA
Whoops, no source! I thought I had installed the source files for the kernel (I usually do) but the files are not on the beta3 disks that I have. I grabbed the current kernel source from a Cooker mirror. With /usr/src/linux in place the NVIDIA_kernel and NVIDIA_GLX modules compiled perfectly. Thanks. Now on to tuxracer! Terry Smith On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 19:33, Greg Meyer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 February 2003 06:52 pm, Terry Smith wrote: I've got 9.1 Beta 3 installed on one of my boxes. I have to agree with Civileme...a very easy install and everything's working. well almost...:-) My NVIDIA Geforce 2 MX 200 is not up to snuff. I usually install the NVIDIA drivers d'l'd from their site in tarball form. I tried compiling the older 3123 NVIDIA_kernel and get a bunch of errors. I tried compiling the 4191 driver also...no go. nvidia.o not found. Has gcc been changed? I can send folks the error messages but the first question is, has anyone got this going with the new kernel 2.4.21pre4-1mdk ? Yes, no problems here on a GeForce2 MX200 and a GeForce3 ti200. Are you sure you have the kernel-sources installed. /g Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+UX9NGu5uuMFlL5MRAsc1AKCJ079lx7vWUET552IuQ9KWKpMOHACfTzdQ K+em127DSof2V+9zCGbDgBE= =/Xi+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Fortran compiler
Six inches thick! musta been runnin' some paltry code :-)). Ahh.. the grand old days (late 1970s),,, I was in grad school working in an ecosystem modeling group. We ran, and re-ran and re-ran (usually a keypuch error!) a FORTRAN IV program which simulated all the interactions in a large northeast US estuarythree boxes of cards worth! took about 40 minutes to read the stack. This is in a room not much larger than a good-sized bathroom, with a tty console (talking to the main frame on another campus), three keypuch machines, and high speed printer...all going non-stop, 12 hours a day. No wonder I have a hearing loss! Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 10:38, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 17 February 2003 03:48 am, civileme wrote: On Sunday 16 February 2003 11:53 pm, laura wrote: I'm new in Linux. Before asking, I tried to use g77 or f77, but I don't have them on the computer. I have the gcc installed and I can compile C programs without problems, but I can't compile Fortran programs. I only wanted to know where I can find this compiler. Laura. big snip I grew up with Fortran, back in the days when there were compilers such as Fortran-IV, Fortran-G, Fortran-H, Fortran-IV with Watfor and WatFIV... It is still an interesting compiler and language, but these days I use almost exclusively Python because I am a bd habit programmer and I need something that forces me to code cleanly and clearly, even at the expense of features. If that isn't enough Ooh, fortran IV, nostalgia hits the brain, the good old days of punch cards and sorters. Never , ever drop a stack of cards 6 inches thick. Can ruin your whole day. Hehehe -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Fortran compiler
Sorry, no paper tape reader:-( Do you have a 9-track drive?...I still have those programs on a reel laying about someplace here... Terry Smith On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 14:11, Seedkum Aladeem wrote: On Monday 17 February 2003 08:06 am, Terry Smith wrote: Six inches thick! musta been runnin' some paltry code :-)). Ahh.. the grand old days (late 1970s),,, I was in grad school working in an ecosystem modeling group. We ran, and re-ran and re-ran (usually a keypuch error!) a FORTRAN IV program which simulated all the interactions in a large northeast US estuarythree boxes of cards worth! took about 40 minutes to read the stack. This is in a room not much larger than a good-sized bathroom, with a tty console (talking to the main frame on another campus), three keypuch machines, and high speed printer...all going non-stop, 12 hours a day. No wonder I have a hearing loss! Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 10:38, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 17 February 2003 03:48 am, civileme wrote: On Sunday 16 February 2003 11:53 pm, laura wrote: I'm new in Linux. Before asking, I tried to use g77 or f77, but I don't have them on the computer. I have the gcc installed and I can compile C programs without problems, but I can't compile Fortran programs. I only wanted to know where I can find this compiler. Laura. big snip I grew up with Fortran, back in the days when there were compilers such as Fortran-IV, Fortran-G, Fortran-H, Fortran-IV with Watfor and WatFIV... It is still an interesting compiler and language, but these days I use almost exclusively Python because I am a bd habit programmer and I need something that forces me to code cleanly and clearly, even at the expense of features. If that isn't enough Ooh, fortran IV, nostalgia hits the brain, the good old days of punch cards and sorters. Never , ever drop a stack of cards 6 inches thick. Can ruin your whole day. Hehehe -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I remember those good old days. If you guys are nostalgic on the seventies, I am also nostalgic on the sixties. I remember those stacks of punched cards and machines and the punched paper tapes. I still have a bunch of rolls of punched paper tapes. I do not have a paper tape reader though. Do you know where I can get my hands on one in the San Francisco Bay area? Thanx, Seedkum -- Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Anotehr fluxbox/ROX convert: [was] This is personal!
Thanks to Derek's inspiration and some crucial tips from Todd, I've got my own variant of fluxbox/ROX-filer/ROX-pinboard running. Seems like the way to go (at least today :-) - fast, versatile, completely customizable. Regardless of your fav flavor of desktop manager, check out ROX. It's quite an impressive program hidden in an apparently very simple interface. On a related note.. I just received the new issue of LinuxFormat in today's mail. Seems they have a comparo of desktop managers: KDE gets the nod in the heavyweight division; WMaker in the middleweight category and IceWM in the lightweight department. I've used them all but still prefer what Derek and Todd have done with their desktops! Thanks guys. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 19:19, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 13 Jan 2003 11:46 pm, Todd Slater wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 12:22:56 + Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 13 Jan 2003 4:40 am, Todd Slater wrote: Playing with ROX and Fluxbox on 8.2. I have the pinboard working OK so I can have desktop icons (not that I use them). So I spent time today looking for icons and just generally customising the look and feel. (See http://clevername.homeip.net/gallery/screenshots/2003_01_12_23_26_50?fu ll=1 if you're curious.) Problem is, I've invested so much time and effort in getting everything just the way I want it, I'm having a hard time convincing myself I should move to 9.0 or 9.1! As has often been repeated on this list, choice is good. Todd Looks nice Todd :) Rox is quite civilised and keeps all your icon substititions in your ~/Choices folder, so after an upgrade so long as the icon names are still valid paths, you should preserve your apperance. I use the kde3 icon set with my Rox. ( http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/fluxbox.png ) The better fonts in 9.0 with gtk2 and Rox 1.3 are quite nice to have. derek Derek, those fonts look great. What theme are you using for Fluxbox--it's nice and clean. Thanks, Todd With Rox 1.3 you can specify the default font in your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file Those fonts are just Microsofts Tahoma medium 11 The fluxbox theme is qnx-photon . Just one of the standard themes. What makes the fonts look so good is the Xft2 upgrade from Texstar. It is a combination of Xft-2, fontconfig, (and for KDE) QT3 RPMS I'm afraid it will not help you with Rox 1.2 because it does not use gtk2 Hopefully 9.1 will have good looking fonts by default (at last :) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Another fluxbox/ROX convert: [was] This is personal!
Rob, Can't help you on the two fluxbox toolbars but you can run ROX with multiple 'panels' (like KDE's kicker) where you can dock apps, directories or files. The panels can be on the left, right, bottom or top and you can invoke more than one. e.g. this is my .fluxbox/startup file #!/bin/bash xscreensaver -no-splash bsetbg -f /home/terry/Photos/uploads/IMG_0464.JPG rox --left=PANEL --pinboard=PIN This will startup xscreensaver, set a desktop background and invoke the ROX-filer. The options for rox include a left side panel (where I dock frequently used application icons) and a 'pinboard'. The latter allows you to place icons anywhere on your desktop. I've got a few frequently-accessed directory icons on the pinboard just above the bottom-center fluxbox toolbar. Simple, but effective. There is an issue with passing the commands to the fluxbox root menu (rt button) through the pinboard but there's a patch and some workarounds. Write if you have questions. Terry On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 20:23, Robert Wideman wrote: Thanks for this info. I personally like Fluxbox myself more than anything, i just cant figure out how to fully configure it to my liking. Like i want a toolbar at the top like the one at the bottom i just want it for icons...shortcuts. Well off to learn a little from the info email... Rob Thanks to Derek's inspiration and some crucial tips from Todd, I've got my own variant of fluxbox/ROX-filer/ROX-pinboard running. Seems like the way to go (at least today :-) - fast, versatile, completely customizable. Regardless of your fav flavor of desktop manager, check out ROX. It's quite an impressive program hidden in an apparently very simple interface. On a related note.. I just received the new issue of LinuxFormat in today's mail. Seems they have a comparo of desktop managers: KDE gets the nod in the heavyweight division; WMaker in the middleweight category and IceWM in the lightweight department. I've used them all but still prefer what Derek and Todd have done with their desktops! Thanks guys. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 19:19, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 13 Jan 2003 11:46 pm, Todd Slater wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 12:22:56 + Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 13 Jan 2003 4:40 am, Todd Slater wrote: Playing with ROX and Fluxbox on 8.2. I have the pinboard working OK so I can have desktop icons (not that I use them). So I spent time today looking for icons and just generally customising the look and feel. (See http://clevername.homeip.net/gallery/screenshots/2003_01_12_23_26_50?fu ll=1 if you're curious.) Problem is, I've invested so much time and effort in getting everything just the way I want it, I'm having a hard time convincing myself I should move to 9.0 or 9.1! As has often been repeated on this list, choice is good. Todd Looks nice Todd :) Rox is quite civilised and keeps all your icon substititions in your ~/Choices folder, so after an upgrade so long as the icon names are still valid paths, you should preserve your apperance. I use the kde3 icon set with my Rox. ( http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/fluxbox.png ) The better fonts in 9.0 with gtk2 and Rox 1.3 are quite nice to have. derek Derek, those fonts look great. What theme are you using for Fluxbox--it's nice and clean. Thanks, Todd With Rox 1.3 you can specify the default font in your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file Those fonts are just Microsofts Tahoma medium 11 The fluxbox theme is qnx-photon . Just one of the standard themes. What makes the fonts look so good is the Xft2 upgrade from Texstar. It is a combination of Xft-2, fontconfig, (and for KDE) QT3 RPMS I'm afraid it will not help you with Rox 1.2 because it does not use gtk2 Hopefully 9.1 will have good looking fonts by default (at last :) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Texstar site ?
Somebody mentioned getting kde-3.1 from the texstar site. Is the site up and running? Terry Smith Cape Cod USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [Newbie] Windowmaker is borked on 9.0????
On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 20:01, et wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 07:51 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: At 09:14 PM 2/11/2003 +, you wrote: On a side note how can I tell which version of any window manager I'm using? Whats teh CLI cmd or Gui place to look? - FemmeFatale umm.. like this? [root@localhost user]# rpm -qa | grep -i Windowmaker WindowMaker-0.80.1-2.1mdk HTH Damian -- That will do. Thx Damian. Not that I'll remember the command cause I don't understand grep yet... :) So I'll just save your mail as a txt file. - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert grep is just a way to use regular words to sort and see only certian info. in the above command, rpm -qa (asks the rpm program to Query All so -qa) then | is a pipe to or route thru, then, grep -i Windowmaker says only answers that (-i) include WIndowmaker so grep strips out all the answers that don't include Windowmaker Thanks, ET, explaining things is the way to go. A minor point ... the -i option for grep indicates that the search should ignore case. This is useful if you're not sure if the rpm is named WindowMaker, windowmaker, Windowmaker Cheers, Terry Smith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This fellow needs help. His mails are being rejected.
I'm the fellow that needs help :-). Or put another way, another unhappy Adelphia customer (the only high speed access available in my neigbborhood). This is a test msg, passing the email through an SMTP server at work. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 15:37, Technoslick wrote: On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 11:52, Greg Meyer wrote: The same exact problem that adelphia has. Thank you very much for clarifying, I now have the info that I need to speak with the ISP again. - -- Greg Greg, I just wanted to follow-up with you, and let everyone else one the list know, about my on-going battle to get any posts through from an Adelphia SMTP server. After a lengthy talk with a tech support personnel at Adelphia, yesterday (one many before), it would seem that Mandrake's listserv is blocking all emails sent from Adelphia's SMTP servers. Why? Last year, around late summer, Adelphia experienced a rash of spam attacks that nearly broke their system and also propagated the attacks to others. It was the opinion of the tech support person that Mandrake is blocking all email send from their servers because of this. I have already discussed my own problem with Mandrake, and in fairness to their efforts, they did try to manually add my address to their system to let me through. It didn't work. Reverse look-up was what was also killing me, as it seems to be the case in this thread. Anyway, I wanted to let everyone know that there isn't anything that can be done at Adelphia's end. They have nearly migrated all their several million customers to the new email server systems, so as it is today is as good as it will get from them. They are now pointing the finger to Mandrake and saying that Mandrake must remove Adelphia from their list of spam domains. How I was able to get around my problem was to use the SMTP server of my dial-up account (this is one reason why I am broke all the time...) by authenticating through my email client. It works fine, as long as the ISP is set up to allow this. Coincidentally, my test post triggered a return email from an anti-spam agent that my Dial-up ISP is using, forcing me to do a one-time validation. No big deal, really. While my solution is of very little help to Adolpho, it would be to anyone who has been trying to use an Adelphia SMTP server to communicate with this list (or some others?) Don't ask me why I didn't think of this soonersometimes I get so deep into the forest that I wouldn't know what a tree looked like if I bumped into it...I apologize for interrupting the thread, but I had hoped that this information would have some value to everyone. T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] palm pilot
David, Are you using a USB cradle? I have a Handspring that I haven't quite got going but I haven't fooled with it for several months. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 11:12, David Williams wrote: On Sunday 08 December 2002 10:13 am, walt wrote: The palm pilot is palm m130 using a usb cradle. Have tried Kpilot. Mandrake does see the usb port. Haven't tried evolution. I have a Handspring Visor and I use J-Pilot with no problems at all. I couldn't get Evolution or Kpilot to work either. DBW Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo default boot time (something weird?)
If you're making the changes and re-running lilo and not seeing any response then the 'lilo.conf' file you're editing must not be the file that lilo is using. Do you have a dual boot system? Do you have multiple drives? Do a 'locate lilo.conf' (as root) and tell us what you see. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 00:18, Angus Auld wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 10:45, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks for the pointers Charlie, Stephen. I am now getting a 30 second delay, for some reason however, lilo has switched to a graphical login mode! I want the text mode, and I had it since installing 9.0. I have tried changing it back to text mode in MCC, but when I reboot, it goes back to graphical mode. :-/ What's up with that?? I must have messed something up somewhere. I guess my system was too much in order. Should have left well enough alone maybe..can't learn that way though! I installed watchdog-5.2-2mdk, xmms-cdread-0.14a-2mdk, and the latest wallpaper-0.1-4tex. Could watchdog have something to do with this behaviour? Anyone have any experience w/watchdog? I've been monkeying with file associations lately too. Where is the file that contains the info for lilo's boot mode? I don't see any mention of that in /etc/lilo.conf. My system seems to be working OK. TIA for any help. :-) --Angus An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. --Anon. The bit with menu scheme= needs to be removed, rerun lilo and you'll have the text based lilo back to text based! (Whacked) -- boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=300 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw - delete this line ^^^ (Whacked) -- -- Tue Dec 3 12:40:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn By doing just a little every day, you can gradually let the task completely overwhelm you. ** Something weird is happening w/lilo here. I cut out that menu_scheme line in lilo.confstill getting graphical lilo menu. I tried to make the changes in MCC again, rebooted...still graphical lilo. When I went back and checked lilo.conf, the menu_scheme line was back in place. There is a bunch of files in /boot that are unreadable with any text editor I have. Just a bunch of gibberish code stuff. I could read these files before, and I edited the message-text file just a couple days ago. Am I suffering from some kind of file corruption here, or what? Also In /boot/grub there are a bunch of similar gibberish files. These are the files that are unreadable in /boot: boot0300, map, message-graphic, message-text, us.kit, vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk and in /boot/grub: e2fs_stage1_5, fat_stage1_5, jfs_stage1_5, minix_stage1_5, reiserfs_stage1_5, stage1, stage2, vstafs_stage1_5, xfs_stage1_5 What can I do now? Has my dual-boot M$ system pulled a dirty trick on Mdk? I should have ditched that sucker! Help please. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** when you make changes to Lilo did you then run, from console, /sbin/lilo? w/o the quotes of course. Whenever you make changes to lilo it is best to do this or they will not hold at next bootup. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 ** Thanks for your reply Dennis. I have run the /sbin/lilo after the changes. MCC just keeps putting things back after I change them. I don't know what brought this about. I have uninstalled watchdog
[newbie] 5 Stars to Mandrake!
I've been on this list a fairly long time in 'newbie' years, a little over a year at this point! I started out with Mandrake 7.2 and progressed to 8.0, 8.1 and 8.2. However, for the last several months I have not been using Mandrake. Instead, I've been doing a 'distro a week', installing Red Hat 7.2, 7.3 (the 'official' system at work), and Red Hat 8.0 on a number of boxes. My main computer at home runs Gentoo and I have another running a new install of Libranet (Debian based). I've remianed subscribed to this list because there is useful advice, good tips, and because a lot of folks on the list are awesome in their knowledge! Before I rattle on too long...I installed Mandrake 9.0 on this box last night. I'm very impressed. My logitech webacm was immedidately detected and xawtv installed (no other distro did that). My HP500PSC printer/copier/scanner was detected as an Office Jet R40 (which usually happens and works fairly well as a CUPS printer) *but* Mandrake knew it had a scanner built in and installed a xsane backend. I can scan with Kooka! This is the first time I ever got the scanner to actually work Mandrake installed the arts soundserver which is much better quality than the alsa sound server I had been using. The menu structure is much more intuitive and easy to use than the mess Red Hat makes out of menus. In fact, I have given up on RH 8.0's Bluecurve look altogether. It's too 'dummied down' to allow easy access to the apps I'm used to and totally fouls up the desktop when I switch back and forth between KDE or Gnome in Gentoo versus KDE or Gnome in Red Hat where both distros use a shared /home directory. The MCC is a marvel.. I could go on, but I'm super impressed and can't believe I wanderred away from Mandrake for so long. Kudos to Mandrake. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 5 Stars to Mandrake!
I'm on the same page as you and Derek. We use RH 7.3 at work (on the few workstations that run Linux, most run Windows) 'cuz that's what is officially supported (although we are slowly migrating our servers over to Linux..from Sun...we have about 300 users..in a heavy computing research setting). RH 8.0 is a step backward, and I can get around pretty well in RH 7.3 at this point so I'll continue to use it at work. I still think gentoo, which is a 'roll your own' distribution, has some real advantages...it's fast, compact, you can build a tight, secure system..test all the latest software, etc. I'll prolly use it on a 'dmz' box I'm trying to configure at home. But, for general desktop use, multimedia, USB support, as well as software support, Mandrake really has the edge. Who knows, if I stay with Mandrake for a bit I may find I have a few more hours on my hands to actually learn something about Linux computing! Terry Smith On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 21:40, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 12:31, Derek Jennings wrote: I totally agree Terry. After having used Mandrake for 18 months I thought had better check on other distros, just in case I was being blind to their merits. Red Hat 8 's install went very nicely, and the fonts were great, but when I tried to actually 'do things' in it I found I missed all the little tools and facilities I took for granted with Mandrake. The package management for example is dreadful by comparison. Libranet was nice, and the apt-get servers seem to be faster than the servers Mandrake use for urpmi, but there were no tools for setting anything up at all, and the menus contained entries for every darned utility installed!! So I guess I will not be changing distros soon(Especially not after having just renewed Mandrake Club membership) derek I still think that RH 8 is like Gnome2 - unpolished, unfinished and pushed out to the public before it's time - RH 7.3, on the other hand, ain't all that bad...happier installing it on systems than anything else so far...guess I just got more familiar with it's idiosyncrasies and it's work-arounds and can get it up and running in a production environment quicker than the rest... (BeOS was still hotter and faster, but those are bygone days) -- Fri Nov 29 13:35:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn I will make no bargains with terrorist hardware. -- Peter da Silva Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 5 stars but ...
I have a nvidia geforce 2 mx200 card and got it running last night under Mandrake 9.0. It was a bit more trouble than some of the other distros...I had to hand edit the XF86Config file a bit. I could send you a copy of my config file if you like. The basic approach, which I'm sure you're familiar with, is to download the nvidia drivers from their site. I would recommend the tarballs. (presuming you have gcc et al. installed). I've used the 3123 drivers on several installs. Just follow the instructions that nvidia provides in terms of unpacking the tarballs 'make install' editing the XF86Config(-4) file, etc. I had some problems 'cuz I was tweaking the monitor section by hand, using the tech specs for a Mag Innovision 771 that I just bought (now $69 after rebate at BestBuy's - a steal) but It's working great now. Another alternative, if you have the other distros running OK on your card is to grab the Devices Monitors and Screens sections from the XF86Config file that works and use it in your Mandrake /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file. Terry Smith On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 21:30, Rainer wrote: hello, as a newbie to linux i have to agree that mandrake has been the easiest to configure and i would like to go back - as a matter of fact i'm in the process of downloading the 9.0 iso's. my problem is with the nVidia drivers for the geforce2 mx/mx 400. it worked fine on mdk 8.1 (but it didn't support my audigy card). 8.2 froze constantly and i finally lost my xserver completely. trying to fix things on the command line only - as a newbie isn't fun! red hat 8.0, suse liveval 8.1, debian 3.0, and slackware 8.1 all configure my graphics card so it works! they might be more difficult to use but at least i have the advantage of a gui which tends to simplify things. so, my question is, does anyone have a relatively straightforward answer to this problem - nvidia geforce2 mx 400/400 card and mandrake. i've followed this mailing list and have read that this problem continues on 9.0. i really would like to give it one more shot. thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Instruction needed (was: Lilo problems - almost there)
Anne, To your last question...yes. The vmlinuz file is the kernel. You now have two specific kernel files vmlinuz-2.4.18-6mdk on the hde6 /boot partition and vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk on the hdf1 /boot partition. Vmlinuz is a generic link that will work with the existing lilo.conf file. That's why you have the line in lilo.conf image=/boot/vmlinuz You could instead have a line image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk The initrd files are RAM disk images that hold modules that must be loaded to the kernel on startup but the construct is the same, the links used in the same way, etc. The problem is that you have two different /boot directories on different drives. It would be better to move the specific vmlinuz and initrd images to hde6 /boot and then amend your lilo.conf file to look something like this snip default=Mandrake-9 (if that is what you want as default) snip,snip image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk label=Mandrake-9 root=/dev/hdf1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.19-16mdk append etc. image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6mdk label=Mandrake-8.2 root=/dev/hde6 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.18-6mdk append etc. the next stanza is for failsafe. If you're going to use 9.0 use the 9.0 vmlinuz and initrd filenames. Leave everything else as is. The last two stanzas (windows and floppy) don't depend on your linux kernel. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 14:43, Anne Wilson wrote: John is telling me that I need to specifically tell the bootup which img and initrd versions I'm using. I understand his point, but before I do that I would like to understand a little better just what is happening here. In the directory that has the 8.2 boot, subdirectory /boot, I have initrd-2.4.18-6mdk.img (size 218,650) and one that has an icon looking like a link, called initrd.img which is also 218,650 long. In the directory with the 9.0 boot there is a similar pair of files, relating to 2.4.19-16mdk. If I open them in an editor and scan the first few lines (I haven't done more than that) the pairs look identical. Are they? Are they interchangeable - they would have to be, I guess, to do as John suggests. Are they there for just this situation? There are similar pairs for vmlinuz - so I expect the answer will be the same for these. But why is one of each pair looking like a link? How are these files actually used at bootup? Anne On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 10:40 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 1:41 am, Terry Smith wrote: image=/boot/vmlinuz should be image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6mdk label=Mandrake_8.2 root=/dev/hde6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img should be initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.18-6mdk.img append=nobiospmp devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi vga=normal read-only You are not telling the system which kernel and initrd file to use, and it's best to define both kernels and initrd files for both Mandrake OS , even though it has booted one OS on the one ill defined version. When you get used to this you can download other peoples amended kernel versions and install them in /boot partition, and write a new stanza to boot on it, without removing anything of the old setup, that way you can test things out easily. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] GKRELLM and LM_SENSORS
I got mine from the gentoo portage tree...but I'm running gentoo not Mandrake :-). Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 03:06, Franki wrote: Where did you guys get ksensors from anyway?? urpmi ksensors didn't work, so i went and got the srpm for the latest at sourceforge and tried to rebuild it.. got a rpmb directory not found message... a heads up in the right direction would be great.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Richard Smith Sent: Monday, 18 November 2002 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] GKRELLM and LM_SENSORS Pilagá wrote: El Dom 17 Nov 2002 18:58, John Richard Smith escribió: I just wanted to say that now that I have had time to really use both gkrellm and lm_sensors and mastered how to get the gui display up large enough to display the results to perfection I for one am impressed, and I for one, would like to see both intergrated into MCC. John Hola, John. I have changed gkrellm by ksensors. With ksensors you can dock in KDE panel the sensors that you really need, and you don't need a magnifier to see what is going there. Suerte. Yes the initial gkreallm gui is so tiny it's unreadable, but in fact it is fully reconfigurable to any size and shape you desire . Yes it takes more horsepower to display gui, but the ease with which it is possible to cover the changes in resource usage as different things happen is very helpful in understanding resource use, and in adition there is additional info in the gkreallm gui display than lm_sensors displays on it's own. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo problems - almost there
Excellent Anne! Good job. Why don't you post your new lilo.conf file and we'll see if folks can deduce what's wrong with the 8.2 stanza. Terry Smith On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 16:01, Anne Wilson wrote: Thanks to the questions Terry asked last night and John's suggestions today, I have finally achieved a partially workable lilo. Problem is, the brain stops working with anything like efficiency when the going gets not just rough but crucial. Eventually it dawned on me that I have a boot disk - that's what they're for, isn't it? For a while I could boot into 9.0 from the floppy but couldn't get in any other way. Eventually, using the clues from Terry and John, I used MCC to reconstruct my lilo. Now the boot into 9.0 work perfectly. I also added an entry for 8.2, but that was only partially successful, so I'll have to work on that a bit more. It did, in fact, boot into 8.2, but failed to load the mouse, sound, and a list of other modules. Any clues on this would be gratefully received. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Planning ahead - next step
Right, Derrick. Good advice. But, if you do mix up users, or if the distro starts the UID numbering sequence differently (as in RH vs Mandrake, 500 vs 501), you can 'handedit' the /etc/passwd file. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 13:01, Derek Jennings wrote: On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 14:47:42 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: When installing v.9.0 I considered sharing the existing /home directory, which I was told is possible. However, I then realised that I would be likely to cause version conflicts in the various dot file/directories unless I registered as a different user. Then I considered what I would have to do about the existing other users - problems. The other users never log on directly, but need access from their windows machines over samba, partly for filesharing and partly for backup of their work. Possible solution - clean install with new /home, mount old home as /oldhome, copy their data only onto the new setup. a) Will I be able to mount the old home in this way, or will 9.0 insist that I already have a /home? They will not be on the same hdd, if that makes any difference (don't see why it would). b) Any other comments? Anything I need to think more about? Anne I don't think there is anything to worry about in regard to a shared /home partition. You will of course have the same user profile for both OS's, that is all. I choose not to have one /home partition. I don't think it's possible to share the same /home directory, persumeably in one or other Mandrake OS. Each OS has it's own /home directory, and you may set them up hower you desire. Generally speaking it's not fifficult to copy setup files from one /home directory to another, which aids the user configuration process. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no need to create new home directiries so long as you take one simple precaution when you install 9.0 Simply add your users in *exactly* the same order as you did when you installed 8.2 This will ensure that each user has the same UID number (User Identification Number) as in the old installation. And the ownerships of all the files in the existing home directories will be OK. Add the users in a different order and crazy things will happen like files in userA's home will only be readable by userB There is no need to worry about the 'dotfiles' in the homes. KDE will for example automatically upgrade a kde2.2 ~/kde directory to kde3 format the first time you log in. You will not lose any config data. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Planning ahead - next step
Anne, Here's a snippet from my RH 8.0 /etc/passwd file: ... pvm:x:24:24::/usr/share/pvm3:/bin/bash radvd:x:75:75:radvd user:/:/bin/false terry:x:501:501:Terry Smith:/home/terry:/bin/bash . The last line is associated with user 'terry' and includes the user name:whether the user employs the x server:the user id (UID):the group id:the user's full name:the user's home directory:the user's preferred shell. If I had problems across two distributions, for example, I would check the other distro's /etc/passwd file. Suppose it has a user 'terry' with UID = 500. I would open that /etc/passwd file in an editor and change the 500 to 501. The new distribution should now have the correct permissions (that is, the same as the old distro in this case) set for user 'terry'. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Sun, 2002-11-17 at 12:33, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 17 Nov 2002 5:11 pm, Terry Smith wrote: Right, Derrick. Good advice. But, if you do mix up users, or if the distro starts the UID numbering sequence differently (as in RH vs Mandrake, 500 vs 501), you can 'handedit' the /etc/passwd file. How? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Get me out of this - PLEASE
This should be fixable with some additional information. Looks like you need a new 'stanza' for the 9.0 install. What is the name of the drive 9.0 is installed on (e.g. hdb)? What are the partitions for /boot and / on that drive (e.g. /dev/hdb1 = /boot, etc.)? What is the name of the boot image on the 9.0 boot partition? (e.g. vmlinuz)? With that info a number of us should be able to help you edit the lilo.conf file so that you can access your 9.0 installation. Terry Smith On Sun, 2002-11-17 at 15:10, Anne Wilson wrote: After installing 9.0 on my second hdd I was not getting a choice at lilo stage. Following advice I re-wrote lilo from the CD1 of 9.0 This was a really bad idea. It reinstalled my boot loaded for 8.2, and now I'm stuck in 8.2 with a perfectly good 9.0 installation inaccessible. I have re-written lilo to what it was originally, like this: map=/boot/map default=linux keytable=/boot/uk.klt prompt nowarn timeout=100 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw ignore-table disk=/dev/hde bios=0x80 image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hdf1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi nobiospnp read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hdf1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi failsafe read-only other=/dev/hde1 label=windows table=/dev/hde other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe What is stopping this working? Is it that map=/boot/map line - the map being overwritten? There must be a way out of this. How do I get back to 9.0 without re-installing? I'm devastated. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Audio Streaming
Hi gang, This should be an easy one for all you multimedia gurus :-) I'd like to 'stream' a local radio station. In looking through my mail archives I find that RealPlayer will work, Codeweaver's Crossover will allow you to run RealPlayer Windows or Windows MediaPlayer. Todd Slater mentioned Icecast a couple of months ago. What's today's best solution for streaming radio? TIA. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT?] Thanks M$ but no thanks.
Interesting note, Anne. Thanks. Two comments, both I suppose related to Linux Format magazine.. First, of the linux serial publications (although there are a number of 'Linux for Dummies' type books around), Linux Format is pretty accessible to the new user. Second, this month's issue (November) has a review of a new distro, Homebase, which fits nearly exactly your ideal system. It's a linux distro for newbies, apparently installs seamlessly, and uses a consistent browser interface (Mozilla-based). It's a free download (www.oeone.com). You can also, for $19.95 US/yr, have a subscription service that allows you to backup your files on their servers, store configuration files, and more generally synchronize your machine with your space on the server. You can also access your 'desktop' from anywhere simply by logging in to your server Homebase. Check out the review. I have three boxes at home, all dual boots with Windows and various flavors of linux (Mandrake, RedHat, Gentoo). One box is for the kids who basically spend some time playing games on the internet or doing research for school. They care not a whit about operating systems but just want to sit down and browse around. I believe Homebase will be ideal for them and will try it shortly (soon as I get my firewall box setup properly!). Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 14:07, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 03 Nov 2002 6:16 pm, you wrote: On Sunday 03 November 2002 06:59 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 03 Nov 2002 1:39 pm, you wrote: a Charlie, you are ever the optomist. it is my bet that the only thing not to change is entropy. ET You're such a ray of sunshine :-) Anne Anne; He is that, isn't he? g Miark and ET; Pessimists may be correct more often but we optimists usually have more fun. :-) All; snip I've always been aware of that. However; I'm also aware that those of us that are called advocates for Open Source still have a chance to win many of the small battles for the mind space that is the consumer market, and that any 'revolution' has to begin somewhere. Considering the amount of time I spend trying to sort out the problems with windows computers for friends and family, I've been considering what is really needed for an introduction to Linux. For many people, a clean install plus Open Office and any good web browser would be adequate (sometimes too many choices are counterproductive at first). I would think that there needs to be a web page set up similar to the one Mandrake gave us with their links, but linking to lists of hardware compatibility and documentation. Certainly no app should be on a beginner's machine if it doesn't have documentation available from Help. There is a need for a magazine (or part of one) that trully tackles beginners needs. Currently the series that run in our magazines need geeks to understand them. Something on the level of Computer Active, that introduces new topics slowly, giving the user time to get to grips with a new concept, and introducing choice when they are ready for it. Then of course there is a need for a simple installer, as fool-proof as Install Shield. I think Mandrake are working well towards that, but there is a need for all distros to use the same method (at the user level, whatever the programmers feel is needed under the bonnet). A distro like Mandrake has everything most users will ever need - but they have to be able to find it and install it. The truth is that Linux is scarey if you don't have someone to hold your hand - and you are much more likely to find a windows user to hand-hold than a linux one - so startup must be simpler. A certain level of computer literacy is required to use a list like this, valuable as it is. A salutory lesson, though, whilst on holiday - I met a couple who had bought a Dell computer with WinXP and Office XP installed. They say they have no manuals. I presume they are on a disk somewhere, but they simply don't know how to get them. They got a warning from Norton AV that their signature files were out of date, and thought that it meant they were infected. They had reached the point where they would happily pack it up and send it back, if they could. It seems that Windows can be just as scarey! As for me - my 14 year old grandson wanders in from time to time, and says things like 'Is Linux difficult, then?'. He is intelligent and will get there if I don't push. I'm thinking of putting OO for windows on his machine, on the pretext that it will make it easier for him to communicate with the M$O users as school (all my family were brought up on Lotus SmartSuite, but it is really long in the tooth now). Next step then would be The Gimp, because he is seriously interested in graphic work. By the time he is using them he should be ready to change :-) The front door
Re: [newbie] Screensavers in 9.0 vs. 8.2?
Try xscreensaver (ver 4.0.5 is current I believe). I believe it's part of the gnome desktop. It's also part of the Xfce windowing environment or you can get it from www.jwz.org/xscreensaver. A great set of totally creative screensavers. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 16:52, Carl J. Bauman wrote: I just upgraded from 8.2 to 9.0 about a week ago and am really loving the new version. Kudos to all who contributed to it. I didn't have any of the issues that I've seen from others on the list. I had to re-install my Nvidia drivers but other than that the only issues are relatively trivial. For instance, in 8.2, under Configuration-KDE-LookNFeel-Screensavers there were several different screensavers to choose from but in 9.0 all I see are Blank, Mandrake Slideshow, Tux, and random. Are the rest available on some package I haven't loaded yet? Thanks, Carl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LinuxFormat - (was Journaling file systems (revisited))
Cheaper - yes (if you can even find it in the stores); cheap - no. In the long run it may be cheaper for me to move to the UK :-). Terry Smith Cape Cod, USA On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 13:19, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 07 Oct 2002 11:35 am, you wrote: Some may already know, but for those who do not. The October 2002 issue of Linux Magazine has a very good article about Journaling filesystems. Or if enough people ask they may be persueded to put it on the website? http://www.linuxmagazine.com I'm not sure if this mag is available outside the U.S. (I do get the U.K. mag Linux Format here but it is very expensive) One of our posters in usa said that subscribing to LF was a good deal cheaper than buying in stores - and it gets there weeks earlier. HTH Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which journalized filesystem should I use in MDK 9.0
Ditto Damians remarks. It's a fairly subjective choice with lots of strongly held opinions. I use a number of different file systems on a number of distributions. RH7.3: ext2 for boot and ext3 for everything else. Never any problems can convert ext2 to ext3 (which is a journaling fs) non-destructively. My subjective impression is that it's slower than the two other journaling sytems I describe below. Mandrake 8.2: Reiser and ext2. I did have a filecorruption problem a long time ago with the reiser fs but it was fixed without any lost data by reiserfsck. Gentoo 1.2: ext2 (for boot) and XFS. Gentoo is very negative about Reiser and offers kernel source optimized for XFS. So I went that route. No problems to date (about 2 months for my main system). Seems about as quick as Reiser. The problem is that RH 7.3 doesn't support XFS and so I can't mount my XFS partitions under RH (but I can mount RH under gentoo which is generally how I'm running). YMMV. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 23:26, Damian G wrote: On 27 Sep 2002 21:50:20 -0500 Jim Fazio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List, Does any have any preferences to which journalized filesystem I should use in MDK 9.0. I am assuming there is still three to choose from. I'm trying to research which is best, but only finding older material. Does anyone have a preference? Why? Which filesystem is the default now? I want to map out my choices before I get there. TIA, Jim F well, this is usually something like which is better KDE or Gnome however, for what i know, all of them work quite well, ReiserFS is supposed to be the fastest, however i notice little or no difference, and it is the only one that has ever crapped out on me -- after 20 or so consecutive unclean shutdowns -- some PAM files broke and the installation started refusing all logins, so i had to reinstall on that machine. And, i've heard wonders about XFS. it is regarded as the best by many people, and it probably is the one i'll attempt to break next :o) Damian -- boot into windows? what has smashing glass with footwear got to do with Operating systems? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Desktop Managers (was Re: [newbie] embarrasing KDE problem (n00b))
Today's messages got me thinksing about Window Managers so, FWIW, Fluxbox - amazingly fast, amazingly sparse...too minimalist for me. Gnome 2 - quite an improvement over Gnome 1faster, cleaner, can be configured with themes, styles, etc. to look quite good (to me anyway-:)). I prefer it to KDE (I'm running if as my WM of choice on my gentoo 'bleeding edge' distribution). Xfce - fast, sparse, but not too sparse! Still my favorite (www.xfce.org). Terry Smith Cape Cod, USA On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 14:14, Stephen Gaffney wrote: On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 19:01, Derek Jennings wrote: Thanks Derek, I ended up deleting the .kde directory, since nothing I tried worked in kcontrol worked. Guess I won't log out with save seesion checked again... :) Thanks for your help, much appreciated. gaff Your experience demonstrates that unfortunately KDE is not ready for the wider public. I have seen my own daughter click on the little XKill icon on the screen, and with the words What does this do she killed the KDE toolbar. It then only requires a log off with 'save session' and the computer is unusable to the uninitiated. But we will get there! In the one year I have been using Linux it has already made great leaps foward. And then nothing will stop us...(Manic laughter) Seriously. KDE is very nice and is what I use on my desktop, but it can be 'fragile', requiring deletion of various hidden files to recover from a screw up. There are more 'robust' Window Managers. Gnome is more robust, although it is not to my taste. Fluxbox is my current fave 'robust' manager for my (underpowered) laptop. It is so simple there is virtually no way you can break it. (None I can find anyway), but it is so different from Windows people are repelled. There are lots of nice WMs on your CDs and you can have fun trying them all. (For example Enlightenment has some if the most nightmarishly ghastly themes you can imagine :) (Do read the documentation on each or you might never work out how to use them) Thats what I like about Linux. Choice :-) derek I settled on KDE after trying the others out - Gnome didn't look very nice (poor font rendering), and the rest were just a little too far removed from what I'm used to, but might give them another try in the future. I've tried using linux at various points in the past 3 or 4 years and decided it wasn't for me, but this time round I'm enjoying it, and it seems to be easier. It still takes a lot more effort to do simple things (like change your screen resolution... g) than it should, but I guess it'll get there soon. Thanks again for your help, gaff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Palm m500 and JPilot
Jonathan, Dan, I haven't mucked with this much in a couple of months but I got my USB Handspring Visor working 'sort of' under Linux (RH 7.2 I believe). I had to recompile the kernel to get USB-Serial support. It was not easy and it didn't work very well. Maybe the newer distros have better USB support. A much easier option is to get a serial cradle! Anyhow check out http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO/ or a goodly number of Palm-Linux sites (do a google search). Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 16:04, Dan Butler wrote: First off, the newer the kernel the better, so I would upgrade to Mandrake 8.2. JPilot user Pilot-Link to Sync so you want to have the newest version of pilot-link. 9.5 wasn't known for a reliable USB connection with the Palm. But the newer version is. That brings you up to about as much as I know as I'm still trying to get my Palm 505 to sync... Dan B - Original Message - From: Jonathan Dlouhy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 4:34 AM Subject: [newbie] Palm m500 and JPilot Hello, I've got a Palm m500 and am making no headway with pilot-link or JPilot. This is Mandrake 8.1, btw. What device should my Palm be? It sits in a USB cradle. Anything at all would help. Please help get me started or tell me where to RTFM. I'm using JPilot version 99.1 and pilot-link version 9.5. I can't get any newer versions of these installed without running into lots of dependancy problems. These versions are from the Mandrake 8.2 CDs, and they installed fine. Thanks! -- Jonathan Dlouhy Saturday, July 27, 2002 Registered Linux user #264482 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Evolution, home directories and double booting
I'm running 8.2 and RH 7.3 on this box. Evolution is my email client of choice. At the moment I have two home directories, one for Mandrake and one for RedHat. I'm going to combine them into a single directory Real Soon Now! So in the interim a question for you Evolution experts. I'd like to access my Evolution mail over on my RedHat home directory from my Mandrake home directory (same uid on both) but it seems that Evolution is looking only on the current home directory. Is there any way to point the pgm to another directory (other than ~/evolution)? Terry Smith Cape Cod USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Palm HotSync over USB
Franciso, Thanks! I'll work through your messages at work (where the USB cradle sits). There I'm running RH 7.3. Bill Nash also pointed me to a website that has a How-to. I need to buy another cradle for this computer (at home). I take it that folks have Palm/Handspring PDA's running on serial cradles? Terry On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 18:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry I suppose you have read my last message about how to compile the cvs pilot-link and the last release of jpilot. Just with pilot-link compiled, I could conect my palm m505 to the usb port (BTW I am using Mandrake 8.2 with devs activated). I plug the palm cable in the usb 1 and pressed the sync button; then I was able to create as root the link: ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 /dev/pilot; probably you will need to make the pilot dev accesible to every user (chmod 777 /dev/pilot). Then you can test pilot-link using pressing the sync button of your pad-usb cable and writing as user: pilot-xfer /dev/pilot -l The first time I heard the music (turur) was wonderfull!!! Well, If you haven't configured it before, you will need to install the palm user according to you palm configuration: install-user /dev/pilot Francisco Alcaraz ( is the register number you have created). Then if you have compiled jpilot with the pilot-link headers (see my last message in newbie). In Jpilot Preferences I have put in Serial Port: /dev/pilot; the speed is 115200. Remember to touch previosly the sync button in the palm cable and then Sync in jpilot. If have tested with kpilot, but it doesn't run. Anyway, if you need more detailed descriptions about my conection, please ask me! Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] VNC
Thanks Shane. I think I understand the basics now. I thought about my particular problem a bit more. First I don't have room (with my current desk setup) for another monitor and keyboard. Basically the old windows/linux box sits in a server bay in my desk with the new linux server box. So I should get a KVM switch (or convince my wife to take up another piece of furniture with computer equipment - guess I'll go with the switch :-). As you say I need to network for any number of reasons so I should do that as well. When this is all done I don't really need to use VNC but I suppose I could on a more remote machine (I want to add a Macintosh upstairs to the network). Terry Smith On Wed, 2002-05-08 at 23:32, shane wrote: On Wednesday 08 May 2002 17:46, Terry Smith opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: This is an at home problem. I was going to buy a KVM switch to control two machines that sit at my desk, one of which could/would be running Windoze. well if you don't have networking and have to buy cards, cables, etc, the KVM will be similar in cost. however if you go the networking route you can also share files, printers, internet connection etc. But if I'm understanding your explanation, I could run VNC (on both or just the Windows machine?) and control my windows desktop virtually with my keyboard/mouse connected to the linux box. exactly, but there is some lag due to running on a network. there is some delay between action on keys/mouse and reaction on the machine. i sure wouldn't play games on it. ;) i only used it to be able to do simple tasks (restart a service, or program, check formating of things in windows apps, stuff like that) when our machine were in different parts of the house. now that they are in the same room, it is easier to move my chair for such things. ;) -- of all of the actions humanity has called crimes, blasphemy is the most amazing, with obscenity and indecent exposure neck and neck for second. -heinlein shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Macintosh Networking (was vNC)
Shane and I have been corresponding about VNC. I would like to network three computers - the linux 'server', a windows machine and a Macintosh. I plan to run Samba on the linux and windows boxes and share files/printers. I'm not sure how to proceed with the Mac. I've heard of a program called netatalk which apparently enables NFS on a Mac. I believe there is also a commercial program (name?) which emulates MS networking. Do any folks on the list have a Macintosh running on a linux served network? If so, how have you set things up? Thanks in advance. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2 distributions on 1 computer?????
Adrian, I'm running RH 7.2, Mandrake 8.2 and Win98. Email me privately and we'll see what configuration files you need to tinker with. Terry Smith On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 16:48, adrian wrote: Hello, I have mandrake 8.2 installed on my computer and i wanted to try redhat so i installed it to on a difrent partition ( same harddrive ) . After the installation i rebooted my computer and up came the mandrake lilo thingie and red hat was not in any of the options, so i went into mandrake control center and added the hde which was the red hat partiion and then rebooted, The option was there but when i chose it i got all kinds of failure and it wouldnt boot up, so i wonder if i can run 2 distribution on the same harddrive and computer ? and also do i need 1 swap for each distrubtion or can they share swap? If its possible to run 2 i would be gratefull if you could tell me how to set it up. Best regards Adrian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stocks
Marcia, Seeing Carroll's and Alastair's replies about the internet.I also use the portfolio tracker on Quicken.com. And I have used The Motley Fool's tracker as well. I can recommend both. I was referring to an onboard portfolio manager...and still find that useful. Terry Smith On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 12:50, Marcia wrote: Dear All, Does anyone trade stocks and track them using Linux? If so, how are you doing this? Is there a totally free way to do this or at least inexpensive? Thank you. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Compatible Video Cards
Hi all, Work has decided to buy me a new desktop box. They're pushing a Dell OptiPlex GX240 w/Pentium 4 1.7 ghz, etc., etc. I may try to talk them into a custom box from Monarch or Micronux where I think I can get a little more linux bang for the buck.. but my question relates to the Dell graphics card...an ATI Rage Ultra 128...If memory serves this is fairly common card, been around a while... Anybody got it running under 8.2? Any problems? TIA. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Let Us Part
Sean, I believe I'd go with a /boot, /home, / and a swap of 256 mgs or so. I often do a 'clean' install without reformatting /home. Make the /home partition fairly large (2 gb or more if you have space)...you can put your downloaded 'goody' packages on that partition and then reinstall after you've put on the latest and greatest distro. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 12:37, Sean Robinson wrote: What is a good partition scheme for a single hard drive to have Linux installed on it? Would it be best to have a swap partition and a single partition for everything else, to have an additional one for /home, or to have one for all the directories directly below root? -Sean Robinson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
Javier, Supposedly Kword, Abiword, StarOffice and OpenOffice can all do that. I've used them all with mixed success. Currently I would recommend OpenOffice...it's quite powerful and will handle MS Excel and Powerpoint files as well. It's on the 8.2 distro or you can get the latest build from www.openoffice.org. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 15:13, Javier de Lázaro wrote: Hi you all! I´m looking for a Linux word processor that is able to save documents as Word format so I can print them under Windows without loosing format. Any advice? Thanks in advance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Triple booting - success and a question
Thanks to Civileme's recent note (and some old ones as well) I finally have my triple boot (RH 7.1/Mandrake 8.2/Win98) system set up. Pretty straightforward really once the wisdom from the list has a chance to ferment a bit! I do have one problem, however. When I installed Mdk 8.2 I used a XFS filesystem for the / partition. RH can't see it. I know that I can find a module for the RH kernel and add it (although I don't know how to do it). I could also backup the Mandrake partition, which is on hda to hdb, and reformat the hda partition. I tried doing that by invoking another clean install (leaving /home intact). I ran DiskDrake (well it was invoked during the installation), selected the ext3 filetype and told it to reformat. Everthing looked fine but when I rebooted after the installation I got a kernel panic and frozen machine. I couldn't figure a way around it so reinstalled by reformatting the partition XFS. Is there some residual config file, pointer or kernel configuration that's telling the system that I have an XFS partition even after reformatting it ext3? More generally, what's the best way of dealing with this? I'm afraid if I do a tar of the all the directories in / I may have a problem with the /proc or /dev directories when I restore. I don't think DD would work as a backup mechanism in this instance as (I think) it will do a binary copy and just copy the old journaling system (XFS) back onto the new one (ext3). Thus, I'm left with reinstalling Mandrake but we've got this residual XFS hangup. Any thoughts guys and gals? Terry Smith Cape Cod USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Changing Window Managers
Kirtis, I use the XFCE window/desktop manager (www.xfce.org). It's on the 8.1 PowerSuite. I'm not sure that it came with 8.2 (still exploring) but you can always download it from the xfce site. BTW, there was a bug with the Xscreensaver package in the Mandrake distributionprevents the screensaver daemon from loading automatically. If you do go to XFCE and run into this, drop me a note. I have an old email around here somewhere with the bug fix. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 13:06, Kirtis Bakalarczyk wrote: First off i'm using Mandrake 8.1 Standard KDE is pretty sluggish so i decided to change to a more light weight window manager. So i downloaded and installed FVWM (on a side note, if someone could recommend a better one that would be helpful.) Anyway FVWM installed fine so i restarted X and tried to log in with the WM set to FVWM but it just starts up KDE like every other time. A little help? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Good News and BAD News - '/home' less - FIXED
Thanks for the tip. I nosed around for several hours on the HOWTO's mini-HOWTOs, the Red Hat site, a couple of ext3 sites, etc. and got nowhere. Recovering deleted files is a possibility (there's a program 'recover' but its pretty tedious...uses debugfs...and only works on ext2 fs's). The EXT3 filesystem seems to be a strange beast. Some utilities that work on EXT2 systems will access EXT3 files, some won't. In any case there's a program 'e2fsck', part of the e2fsprogs, that apparently did the trick. The directory was never erased (which is what I thought...see my first message) but the filesystem must have been corrupted during the copy. (BTW, in my perusal of the 'literature' I found a number of folks with ext3 file corruption problems and inability to recover.) You have to run it thus: e2fsck -fy /dev/hdXX where the 'f' forces the check and 'y' makes the check non-interactive. All the files are there and I'm a happy camper! Bottom line: don't get into the box I did...back up first. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 08:29, Frans Ketelaars wrote: file:/usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/ref.html/ts-deleted-files-recovery.html It's about ext2, but since ext3 is build upon ext2 IIUC _maybe_ it's of some use. Good luck! On 11 Apr 2002 21:11:54 -0400 Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Short ver.: Any way to recover a deleted directory on a ext3 partition? Details: Although I've remained subscribed to this list, over the last 6 weeks I've been running a RH 7.2 distro off of my hdb drive. BOO! Last night, after downloading the new Mandrake 8.2 and burning 3 cds I installed 8.2 on my hda (sharing with windows). As customary I did a 'clean install' but didn't reformat my /home directory (on hda). Installation went perfect, everything's configured, the new CUPS not only recognized my printer (HP Officejet) but recognized and installed software for the built-in scanner. YAY! But all my personal files, emails, downloads, tarballs, rpms and other goodies I've picked up over the last month are over on the hdb /home directory. I had backed up the /etc directory on hda (the old drive with Mandrake 8.1) but didn't backup /home on hdb as I didn't have any intention of overwriting it, moving it, etc. BAD! So now happily playing with my new 8.2 I figure I better access all my /home files on hdb. I modify /etc/fstab to pick up the hdb2 partition but name it 'rh_one'. I mkdir 'rh_one', do the mount and everything's there. YAY! Now things go downhill. I decide I want to rename the dir 'rh_one' to 'rh_home' so I use the mv command. It apparently copies everything from rh_one to rh_home. I check 'rh_home'. Everything looks OK. I do a 'rmdir rh_one'. BOO! All the files that were on hdb /home are gone! I guess if someone could tell me where I went wrong I'd appreciate it. But the real question is Can I recover the directory? I was using the ext3 journaling filesystem so I would think that there is some possibility, but frankly don't have a clue on how to proceed. I've got a backup that's a couple of weeks old and there's nothing hugely important but it would sure be nice to have those files back. Can it be done? TIA. '/home' less in Cape Cod USA -- -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Good News and BAD News - '/home' less
Short ver.: Any way to recover a deleted directory on a ext3 partition? Details: Although I've remained subscribed to this list, over the last 6 weeks I've been running a RH 7.2 distro off of my hdb drive. BOO! Last night, after downloading the new Mandrake 8.2 and burning 3 cds I installed 8.2 on my hda (sharing with windows). As customary I did a 'clean install' but didn't reformat my /home directory (on hda). Installation went perfect, everything's configured, the new CUPS not only recognized my printer (HP Officejet) but recognized and installed software for the built-in scanner. YAY! But all my personal files, emails, downloads, tarballs, rpms and other goodies I've picked up over the last month are over on the hdb /home directory. I had backed up the /etc directory on hda (the old drive with Mandrake 8.1) but didn't backup /home on hdb as I didn't have any intention of overwriting it, moving it, etc. BAD! So now happily playing with my new 8.2 I figure I better access all my /home files on hdb. I modify /etc/fstab to pick up the hdb2 partition but name it 'rh_one'. I mkdir 'rh_one', do the mount and everything's there. YAY! Now things go downhill. I decide I want to rename the dir 'rh_one' to 'rh_home' so I use the mv command. It apparently copies everything from rh_one to rh_home. I check 'rh_home'. Everything looks OK. I do a 'rmdir rh_one'. BOO! All the files that were on hdb /home are gone! I guess if someone could tell me where I went wrong I'd appreciate it. But the real question is Can I recover the directory? I was using the ext3 journaling filesystem so I would think that there is some possibility, but frankly don't have a clue on how to proceed. I've got a backup that's a couple of weeks old and there's nothing hugely important but it would sure be nice to have those files back. Can it be done? TIA. '/home' less in Cape Cod USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Organizer
Evolution does it all for me. Ximian is pushing out v. 1.0.3 currently (I'm not sure what v. 8.2 has). Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 12:56, Gary Montalbine wrote: Can anyone recommend a simple organizer that has a date and to do list and a telephone list. Korganizer does not have a telephone capability that I can find. Thanks, Gary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Quicken clone
Kapital is on the 8.1 Power Suite distro but I couldn't get it to install. Mebbe someone else has got it going. I've been using Moneydance for several months (www.moneydance.com) and imported my Quicken files into it. It works well enough...not quite as integrated as Quicken but probably a better accounting program. It does print checks, but its a PITA to get it set up just right. You can download it from their site but the free download is limited to something like 100 transactions. You can purchase a license online ($40?). Gnucash is OK and I actually prefer it for tracking investments but, for the moment, I'd recommend Moneydance. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 19:08, shane wrote: On Monday 25 March 2002 11:05 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: I spotted a package called something like KMoney on one of the UK Linux magazines a couple of weeks ago. from the user club page: Kapital (demo) Description: A full-featured personal finance manager (more info) Licence:: Demo Version: 0.9.6b Filesize: 1.28 MB i am sure you can also get a demo elsewhere. -- If someone tells you they know the truth, listen carefully. If they tell you they know the only truth, run for your life. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xfce and the xscreensaver daemon
Derek (and Michel Clasquin too), Sorry to be so long in getting back to you I've been away from home for a week Your fix did the trick Thanks!! The line in /etc/X11/xfce/xinitrc read xscreensaver -no-splash -lock-mode so I removed the -lock-mode BTW, I'm still fooling with RH72 and am running Xfce under that distro RH doesn't supply it all You can get the latest build from the Xfce website, http://wwwxfceorg; I'm using version 3814c Cheers, Terry Smith On Sat, 2002-02-23 at 07:49, Derek Jennings wrote: At a guess Terry I would say you are using XFce from Cooker or elsewhere because the screensaver for XFce on 81 worked fine for me, while the 82 Beta1 version gave me the same problem you have I found the bug If you edit /etc/X11/xfce/xinitrc and find the line starting xscreensaver edit that line to say xscreensaver -no-splash Then the screensaver will start next time you log on I reported this as a bug in 82Beta1 Now Beta 3 is out and XFce has been taken out altogether!!! I am a bit worried about this and hope it is not because of the bugs I reported in Beta1 :-( The worst bug I found is that when xtree is open the floppy disc drive would whirr and click every 15 seconds Xtree seems to interract badly with supermount Disabling supermount on the floppy works around the problem I hope Mandrake do not simply remove XFce from the distro derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://wwwmandrakestorecom
[newbie] Xfce and the xscreensaver daemon
This should be a simple one. I, along with many others on the list, have settled in on Xfce as my desktop manager of choice. One neat thing about Xfce is the Xscreensaver pgm that runs with it (although you can run it with other desktops, wms, etc.). From xfce you configure with xscreensaver-demo. When I do that it tells me that the xscreensaver daemon is not running. I can execute it at that point. What I'd like to do is have the daemon run on xsession initialization. I thought I could add a line like xscreensaver to the user's ~/.xsession file (as implied by the manual) but it doesn't seem to work. So how do I automatically invoke the xscreensaver on a user's xsession startup? TIA. Terry Smith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wanting to replace / or run these windows apps.
I use Moneydance for bank (checking, saving) accounts and gnucash for mutual fund portfolios. Both work quite well. Not as much glitter as Quicken but they both use true double-entry accounting and can both import Quicken files. Check printing is possible (although quite a pain) in Moneydance. Moneydance is not free. The demo version is but if you want to save more than (I think) 100 transactions you need to purchase a license (~$40). Moneydance has a more complete interface and can do a few extra things. It's written in java so it can be a bit slow unless you have a fast processor. If you just want to get the job done, gnucash is fine. BTW, both leave a lot be desired in terms of producing useful reports (on investment performance, for example). Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 10:42, Jose Mirles wrote: Paul Kraus wrote: Is there a way to run Ms Money is Linux or is there a comparative, just as good, Linux application. Are there any windows emulators? I have a couple 16bit windows apps that I would like to run. They don?t do anything special and ran on win95. Thanks. Well you could try WINE. It works better with older Win apps. However I use Win4Lin. You load Windows 95/98 as an application under Linux. I use it to run Quicken and Turbo Tax. You may also want to take a look at MoneyDance (shareware), GNUCash, KDEMyMoney2 and Kapital. MoneyDance and GNUCash are usable now. -- Jose [EMAIL PROTECTED] The box said Windows 2000 or higher required, so I used Mandrake Linux... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Evolution or kmailkorganizer ?
I prefer evolution. I'm running v. 1.0.4 downloaded from the Ximian site (using Red Carpet...a very slick updater/installer). Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 12:39, Joan Tur wrote: Hallo! I'm now using kmail korganizer. Would you recommend me to change to evolution or to stay using this 2 programs?? Thanks for your answer! ;) -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain Yahoo AOL quini2k ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Evolution: importing contacts
What with two boxes, two distributions, and various 'this is best choice today' email clients, I've got stuff scattered all over the place :-). I've settled in to Evolution 1.0.4 running on the new box and would like to 'import' the contacts from my older evolution directory. I've copied everything into a subdirectory under evolution and have imported mail messages and 'calendar' app'ts successfully. The evolution importer, however, does not seem to recognize the 'addressbook.db' file that stores the contact information. Anyone had any luck importing this info via evolution? or using some other method which bypasses the pgm? TIA. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Evolution
I second that. I'd been having great difficulties getting an Evolution 1.0.1 update done on my Mandrake 8.1 distro...lots of dependencies that I couldn't completely track down. (It looks like some notes this week indicate that the Cooker has everything we need). So I downloaded Red Carpet, Ximian Desktop, etc. from the Ximian site. Everything installed perfectly and works beautifully (at least on the RH 7.2 side of the house). I used Red Carpet last night to update RH and the Gnome software. Completely transparent and apparently successful. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 04:01, Vincent A. Primavera wrote: Hello, If you are using 8.1, I suggest that you install Red Carpet from the same site first and use that to install. I was having a rough time installing/upgrading Evolution but now that Red Carpet supports 8.1 it makes the installation a breeze since it handles all of the dependencies which there are many. Good luck, Vincent A. Primavera On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 13:52, Kenn Yahoo wrote: http://www.ximian.com/products/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 7:22 AM Subject: [newbie] Evolution | Can someone please let me know where I can download a copy of Evolution | 1.0 from | | Thanks :) | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com | _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
Here's more than you probably want to know (and more than I understand) on this issue - from a linux distribution site (gentoo), AMD and a kernel developer. Bottom line: Seems like a problem. There is a fix. The fix may result in a performance hit (and I have an Athlon XP 1700!). The kernel folks are working on it! Terry Smith Cape Cod USA (Read them in the order pasted in). http://lwn.net/2002/0124/kernel.php3 (read the memory paging section first as it has some context) http://lwn.net/2002/0124/a/athlon-agp-problem.php3 http://www.gentoo.org/ On Wed, 2002-01-23 at 23:47, shane wrote: On Wednesday 23 January 2002 15:29, you spoke unto me thusly: from what i read, it only affects machines which use AGP. and whose kernals are compiled to pentium or better type cpu's. the bug occurs becoz the athlon / duron processors have a bug when dealing with extended paging in conjunction with AGP. You can read more about it as well as find a quick fix to the problem here: http://www.gentoo.org/ Sorry if this is a stupid question, but would this affect an XP1800? actually, a good question yes i think it would, all the 500 (i think) and higher cpus are duron/athlon. i think that the xp is a naming convention only and is not actually a different processor. this is only my understanding though, i haven't followed hardware too close in the last year or so... does anyone else know if the xp cpus are affected? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ESS Solo 1 Audiodrive
I began this thread yesterday. I have a new machine with two drives and installed RH 7.2 tonight on hdb (I know, I know, but I'm just seeing how the other side lives :-)). The ESS Solo 1 was automatically detected, configured, and is running great. the /etc/modules.conf file (on RH) has this .snip... alias sound-slot-0 esssolo1 post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L /dev/null 21 || : pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S /dev/null 21 || : .more snip I take it that esssolo1 is a driver. Is that right? On the LM side I have a file in the kernel modules dir esssolo1.o.gz This looks like a tarball'd driver. What's up? What do I have to do to get this running on the LM side? Is it as simple as adding the 'sound' lines to the LM /etc/modules.conf? Terry Smith Cape Cod USA . On Thursday 24 January 2002 10:49 pm, you wrote: On Thursday 24 January 2002 19:46, you wrote: On Wednesday 23 January 2002 20:31, you wrote: I have the same card. Had difficulties setting it up. Went to www.driversguide.com and searched for Aureal (your Solo 1). File is au88xx-1.0.5.tar.gz or something. I found I had to go into Mandrake Control Center, after file install, and go through the same motions you described (sound card hardware config). Then rebooted. Adjusted the sound afterwards (everything was turned all the way down) and it works fine. Hope it helps Try this site: http://www.geocities.com/bofh_666/aureal.html I've used Aureal cards with no problems (they were good cards). e. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Environment variables, evolution and bonobo
Thanks, Dave. If I wanted to make the new evolution available to all users, though, why wouldn't I edit the /etc/profile rather than my own bash profile? Terry p.s. note the date! My system went down as I was composing this message. Since then the box has traveled across the country to San Francisco and had a new mobo put in. It arrived on the east coast today and I'm getting the system up and running. A few glitches...they added a sound card, the ESS Solo 1 Audiodrive (the old board, an A7M266, had built in sound, the new board, an A7K266 doesn't) 1/23/02 On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 15:21, Dave Sherman wrote: You would be better off modifying the .bash_profile in your home directory. Otherwise, you are correct in your understanding of environment variables, how to set them, and how to export them. Dave On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 12:21, Terry Smith wrote: I think this is a prety basic question, but that's why I'm a newbie:-). Today's task is upgrading evolution. Short version: I'd like to add an environment variable. I've never done this but have RTFM'd. Am I correct in assuming that I could edit the '/etc/profile' file, add a new line such as 'ENVVAR=value' and then add the ENVVAR to the 'EXPORT' line? Longer version: I found a magazine in the local bookstore - LinuxFormat - published in the UK. Seems pretty good (and also quite expensive). Anyone have experience with the mag? Anyway, when you buy the mag you get a CD with lots of software on it, including, in this case, Evolution 1.0 beta 5. Now I know I can go to Ximian's site and grab this stuff but I'm trying to upgrade my evolution from the CD supplied files. I unpacked the tarball and ran ./configure. I got an error to the effect that configure couldn't locate the oaf-config file. Well I don't know what this is but I did a locate and found an /etc/oaf directory with a couple of files in it (oat-config.xml and auto-config.xml.example). Configure says I should set my environment variable OAF-CONFIG to the full path name of oaf-config. So can I modify my /etc/profile file by adding a line, viz. OAF-CONFIG=/etc/oaf and then adding OAF-CONFIG to the line in the /etc/profile that EXPORTS environmental variables? TIA. Terry Smith Hatchville, MA, USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ESS Solo 1 Audiodrive
Short version: Got one, doesn't work :-( Longer version: My new linux box has returned from its original birthplace in San Francisco (Micronux Computers) with a new mobo. The week old machine had quit on me a couple of times finally, on Jan 6, dropping out altogether. Apparently it was a problem with the mobo, specifically the voltage supplied to the cpu and the memory. The original mobo was an Asus A7M266 which is a socket A board, DDR, 266 FSB, etc using the AMD761 chipset. The board had built in sound and it (the sound, not the board) worked fine. Micronux replaced the mobo with an Asus A7K266 which has the same config as the old board and a VIA 266 chipset instead of the AMD. It doesn't, however, have onboard sound, so Micronux put in an ESS Solo 1 Audiodrive card. sndconfig says ESS Technology|ESS 1969 Solo 1 Audiodrive is not supported Mandrake Control Center, hardware configuration, detects the card and indicates that it uses kernel module: snd-card-es1938. I selected the Solo 1 from the ESS list and tested it. Nada! lspcidrake tells me basically the same thing, i.e., recognizes the card and indicates the kernel module. Of course, I'm sure that there has been tons of messages about this over the last month or two. I've managed to lose stuff from the last several weeks on the transition including where the archives are :~ (. So should this card work? Is it a IRQ problem? TIA. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Using Xfce
Terry, Dunno. Sounds like you don't have write permission for the config files. You're reconfiguring this from your user directory, right? Check your current .xfce directory. There are a number of rc files that should all have user write permission. Terry S. II Cape Cod USA On Wed, 2002-01-23 at 18:57, Terry S. wrote: Good evening, I've been reading about people using Xfce on the Linux boxes on this list, and I decided I'd give it a try. I installed it off of the LM 8.1 CD's, and logged into it. It looks really good, and I would like to make it my default window manager of choice. I do have one problem with it though. Just about everything I click that makes any kind of change to the environment (font settings, sound settings, any kind of settings, even trying to quit) results in a popup that says Error, cannot create file or cannot write file or something to that effect. Nonetheless, when I log in again, none of my settings remain. Is there some tweaking that needs to be done to it? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Terry =_1011829643-762-2554 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Trouble with (an) OAF!
Hi all, Today's problem (actually I've been fooling with this off and on for a coupla weeks!) is installing Evolution 1.0.1. I'm going the route of downloading source files from the Ximian site. The first package that needs to be installed is bonobo-config-0.14. When I do a ./configure it goes through a script which runs a series of checks...All is well until it gets to . much snipping checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no creating libtool checking for gawk... gawk checking for glib-config... /usr/bin/glib-config checking for GLIB - version = 1.2.0... yes checking for oaf-config... /etc/oaf/oaf-config.xml checking for OAF - version = 0.6.2... no *** Could not run OAF test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means OAF was incorrectly installed *** or that you have moved OAF since it was installed. In the latter case, you *** may want to edit the oaf-config script: /etc/oaf/oaf-config.xml I have a file /etc/oaf/oaf-config.xml which I would be willing to post but a few basic questions. What is bonobo and what is it doing? What is OAF (I can't find it listed in any of my books) and what does it do? Do I need a newer version? What is going on here? (I'm a little mystified as I've got Evolution 0.13 running OK and it must use bonobo???). Anywhow, if someone could steer me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. Terry Smith Hatchville, MA USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] CPU and mobo monitoring
Thanks to 'S' I got my monitors monitoring last night. I'm running kernel 2.4.8 (from the 8.1 standard install) on an ASUS A7M266 mobo. I installed lm_utils 2.4.8 (from the 8.1 PowerPack) and then ran sensors-detect. I do not have a package 'lm_sensors'. I suspect that lm_utils is installing 'sensors-detect.' The pgm autodetects the sensors and walks you through the installation. Just answer the questions posed. Then reboot and run grkellm. You should be able to configure the 'builtins' from the Configure menu. Good luck. Terry Smith Hatchville, MA On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 19:20, Lee Roberts wrote: At 11:19 AM 1/3/2002 +0800, Franki wrote: so go find kernel 2.4.16-11mdk or something from cooker (thats the kernel I am running now.).. and try that.. I guess I'll have to do this because I can't get lm_sensors 2.6.2 or lm_utils 2.4.8 to install. I have kernel 2.4.8 with Mandrake 8.1 on an ASUS P5A-B mobo with the ALi chipset. (still waiting on my MSI K7T266 Pro2 mobo). =_1010103680-11608-3288 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 200: What am I missing?
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. I got it working and now I see what all the fuss is about TuxRacer neat! For the next newbie who has trouble with an NVIDIA install let me tell you what I did and what went wrong. I downloaded the latest RPMS from the NVIDIA site. They're using version 2313 currently, They do have rpms for LM 8.1 with the 2.4.8 kernel. You need two rpms - the extension to the kernel 'NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2313.mdk81up.i686.rpm' and the glx module 'NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.i386.rpm.' Install the kernel rpm and do a rpm -e NVIDIA_GLX' to remove any old NVIDIA modules (installed automatically by M when it detects the NVIDIA card) and rpm -ivh NVIDIA_GLX..etc. Check your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file. You should have a line in the modules section Loadglx and in the 'Graphics Device Section' a line Driver Nvidia [not nv] My Config-4 file had another entry in the modules section Load /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so I debugged the problem by examining the /var/log/XFree86.0.log file (as suggested by NVIDIA in their Troubleshooting Notes) and found that the file called for could not be found. Sure enough I didn't have it but had a similar file ...libglx.so.1.2313 I then reran the rpm -e NVIDIA_GLX and rpm -ivh NVIDIA_GLX The file libglx.so was now in the right place and tuxracer was up and running! For some reason I had to run the rpm install twice. Anyhow if you're having problems check out the XFree86 log file. There's lots of info in it. Now back to the slopes! Terry Smith Hatchville, MA Harm Bathoorn wrote: On Thursday 03 January 2002 01:12, you wrote: Apparently you're not loading GLX, make sure you put Load 'glx' in the Section 'Module' (under Load 'dbe' for instance) and be sure it's /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 you're loading! Hi gang, My new computer is up and running (it's been periodically dead but that's another story...and a bit long...when it's all sorted out I'll do a post mortem for y'all:-). I don't know whether my NVIDIA card is working correctly. I have a NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 w/32 mb RAM installed in the AGP slot. Mandrake 8.1 installed the generic NVIDIA drivers. I went through the material on Mandrake User and went to the NVIDIA site and grabbed and installed NVIDIA_GLX* and NVIDIA_kernel-1.02313...(revision 20, using the version for Mandrake 8.1 with the 2.4.8 kernel). Installation seemed to go OK but I did get some warnings that the drivers were conflicting with some already installed MESA drivers (which I know nothing about). The msgs told me that those (Mesa) drivers were being renamed so as to not conflict. I had them too. Don't think its a problem. I wonder if Mesa will still work though. Then, per Mandrake's and NVIDIA's instructions, I modified the XF86Config-4 file to change driver 'nv' to 'nvidia' and to include a line to Load 'glx' When I reboot the X-server I get the NVIDIA splash screen, and, to my unpracticed eye, the performance seems a little 'snappier'. Tuxracer won't load, however. Here's the message I get from the console: Xlib: extension GLX missing on display :0.0. Xlib: extension GLX missing on display :0.0. *** tuxracer error: Couldn't initialize video: Couldn't find matching GLX visual (Success) I have also tried installing some KDE screensavers, specifically Morph 3D (GL) assuming that they use 3D graphics. That particular screensaver does not seem to be available to me. Have I missed a step? Left something out? Configured things incorrectly? I've run through the full NVIDIA documentation and seem to have the files it says I should have. TIA. Terry Smith Hatchville You took out load dri load GLcore did you? I just installed the NVIDIA drivers myself today and everything went well. I have a Geforce3 Ti200 64MB. I took the precaution to rebuild the NVIDIA-kernel driver as I had updated my kernel to the latest security advised 2.4.8.34-1mdk version. This went well. Guy. =_1010092925-11608-3246 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CPU and mobo monitoring
Thanks to you I've now got 3 temp and 3 fan sensors running as well as a bunch of voltage sensors. Very nice. Terry Smith On Wed, 2002-01-02 at 21:17, s wrote: On Wednesday 02 January 2002 07:55 pm, you wrote: Do we have anything in this wonderful world of Mandrake 8.1 (I have the Powerpack) that can provide real time monitoring of these feeds? I fooled with gkrellm a bit but its not seeing the sensors. Terry Smith Hatchville, MA well, you have to load the modules first. You need to install lm_utils (or lm_sensors liblm_sensors1 on newer versions). Then do a locate lm_sensors and cd to it (/usr/share/doc/lm_sensors-2.6.2/doc/ on mine) and run sensors-detect. It will guide you from there. then reboot and run gkrellm and set them up in it's config. -s =_1010025643-11608-3029 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows won't start - any suggestions?
Doug, Check your address header. You are sending two copies of your mesages to the list. Your windows partition is at hda2 - the second partition on the primary hard drive. That's going to cause a problem. Windows insists that it be the first partition. Changing lilo.conf won't help. The only reliable way to set up a dual (or higher) boot setup with Windows is to install Windows first, let it format the whole drive and then grab as much of the free space as appropriate during the Mandrake install. If you've got bunches of stuff on the Windows partition, you may want to borrow another drive and copy the Win to that. Then reinstall Windows, reformatting the drive FAT32, copy your files back to that drive, make sure you've defragmented the drive and then reinstall Mandrake, having DiskDrake take the total space you need from the Windows partition,setting up your /, /boot, /home, swap, etc. partitions. Most of the stuff I've seen on dual booting does point this out - including the Mandrake documentation. I'm sure that doesn't make you feel any better at this point, however. Good luck. Terry Smith Hatchville, MA On Tue, 2001-12-25 at 20:21, Doug Lerner wrote: This is my lilo.conf. I am not familiar with lilo. Does anybody see anything I might try before trying the more radical idea of starting over with both Windows and Linux? boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/jp106.klt lba32 prompt timeout=50 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda5 append= devfs=mount read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda5 append= devfs=mount failsafe read-only other=/dev/hda2 label=windows table=/dev/hda Thanks, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001): On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:07 am, you wrote: I would actually like to figure out how make Windows *bootable* again. It doesn't seem to boot even if I choose the Windows option from the startup screen. Maybe, post your lilo.conf Also explain which drine/partition windows is on. We might see something, else its difficult to help Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com =_1009329671-11608-1600 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
Doug, The new Star Office 6.0 beta is worth looking at. It's a full office suite, MS Office compatible and not as overstuffed at Star Office 5.2 (which is probably on your distribtion). You can grab it from the Sun site. Terry Smith Hatchville, MA On Mon, 2001-12-24 at 12:22, Doug Lerner wrote: What office suites do people recommend? I need to be compatible with Microsoft Office to at least *some* extent for: Spreadsheets Word Processing PowerPoint Presentations What do people think of Hancom Office at http://www.hancom.com. That package looks unbelievable for $49! How about the office stuff that is included with KDE? Kpresenter does not seem to be PowerPoint compatible, right? doug =_1009214578-11608-1432 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.1 and cdrom
Bob, I'm a newbie so I'll leave the experts to tell you how to 'fix' your problem. I do know, however, that creating two CD drives, one a SCSI drive, is standard LM treatment. As I understand it, LM needs to define a second drive (SCSI) to provide for write access. I've had problems with automatic ejecting... a manual 'eject cdrom' or 'umount dev/hdc' should work. Terry Smith Hatchville, MA On Sun, 2001-12-09 at 13:05, Bob Kauffman wrote: I installed Mandrake 8.1 on my Dell Dimension (PIII) and everything went very welluntil I tried to access my cdrom drive. This machine has a CD RW drive supplied by Dell, and a DVD rom installed later by myself. In checking with HardDrak, I find three cdroms listed: ATAPI 12X DVDROMdev/hdd ATAPI/IDE LG CD-RW CED-8080B dev/hdc ATAPI/IDE LG CD-RW CED-8080B dev/scd0 SCSI This machine doesn't have SCSI support, to the best of my knowledge. Why is Mandrake seeing two RW drives and why is it seeing a SCSI device? I can't rouse the CD RW drive at all it won't light up and I can't eject the tray. Any ideas? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Whereis latest kernel?
I know some of you have upgraded to the latest kernel (2.4.13?). Where are you finding the rpm's. I don't see them on the Cooker mirrors. TIA. Terry Smith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Whereis latest kernel?
Tom and Tek,
I did find 2.4.16 from the Cooker on rpmfind.net. I downloaded it and
the doc file but have some dependencies I need to resolve (plus the
others that you've told me about). I'll take your advice and monitor the
Cooker site for a while.
I'll also bookmark the Netherlands mirror.
Thanks.
Terry Smith
On Sun, 2001-12-09 at 21:46, Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Sunday 09 December 2001 08:59 pm, Terry Smith wrote:
I know some of you have upgraded to the latest kernel (2.4.13?). Where
are you finding the rpm's. I don't see them on the Cooker mirrors.
TIA.
Terry Smith
Your question brings up other cautions. From the list of mirrors
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 sooner or later you
might just find that they're not all, always updated the same. I find
the European mirrors to be the best updated. I like the Netherlands
mirrors, YMMV.
Currently, 2.4.16-6mdk is the cooker kernel. 2.4.13 is old hat, and
dropped from the mirrors. BUT, there's other issues involved. If you
install a cooker kernel, you'd best do well to either lurk on the cooker
ML, or at least search the cooker ML archive first, to see what's goin on.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker
Often problems are fixed, but also introduced as the patch level (eg,
-5mdk) increases. They are, after all, for testing purposes. I believe
the only way you can judge for yourself when to jump in is to monitor
cooker. Even then, it's best to make a backup of your /boot directory,
and make sure you install the new kernel with 'rpm -ivh' so as not to
override your current kernel. That done, you can always undo the new
kernel if it's not workin out. You should also have handy the rpm of the
current kernel you're runnin, as you might need to force it back in ('rpm
-ivh --force').
To save ya' a little time, 2.4.16 -2mdk thru -6mdk have some s-link
issues with /usr/src/ and /lib/modules ... so I'd wait a bit. Specially
since a cooker kernel will work better on a ML system than vanilla source
(development, also for testing, and not patched for ML) from kernel.org ;
I've been usin kernel-2.4.16.1mdk for some time, no problems. BUT, it
did also need an initscripts, setup, iptables, and lm_sensors upgrade(s)
to go with it (on 8.1). These weren't deps that 'rpm -ivh kernel...'
revealed, but upgrades I sort'a knew would be, and proved to be needed.
If you're usin proprietary, closed source, binary only software or
drivers, a kernel upgrade can likely break 'em, as will upgrades to
other system files. That's the (bad) nature of Windoze, err I mean
proprietary, closed source, binary only, secret stuff ;~
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Re: [newbie] No printing in 8.1 now
Marcia, This would be in the FWIW department. I'm a newbie myself and don't pretend to understand the ins and outs of printing. I have a HP PSC 500 (all-in-one type printer) hung on my parallel port. It was configured and printing on LM 8.0. There were 3 drivers available for that printer in CUPS. I tested them all and setup a 'lp' and a 'lp1' using two of the choices. In the last month I did a 'clean' installation of LM 8.1, including updates of CUPS and CUPS drivers. I ran through the CUPS installation process in the installation menu (you can do this from within the Mandrake Control Center after the fact as well). I selected the printer using my preferred driver and did a test page. Everything was OK in terms of the test. However, from any application (and from a desktop drop) I was getting garbage out (symptoms the same as you described in your original note). I was stuck until I discovered that the the new version of cups-drivers had added another choice to the list. I chose it. All print tests were passed and, more importantly, it prints from any application. I have no idea why the old drivers no longer work. So my questions. Can you configure the printer and send it a test page? If so, consider trying all the available drivers for your printer (or similar printers) to see if you can get around the problem. Terry Smith Marcia wrote: Dear Linus, Thank you for your advice. It did not work for me although I may not have done everything correctly. Could you send me your exact steps? Did you use cups again or change the spooling? I am still quite the newbie in some areas. I installed lpr because it was not installed before. I wonder if I could just skip cups and use lpr or pdq instead. Would anyone be able to give me the steps for that? How do I change the spooling system from cups to lpr without reinstalling? I really do not want to do that again. I have heard that lpr for spooling has cleared up problems. Does anyone here have Epson Stylus Color that is printing fine in 8.1? If you do could you tell me what you did? Any help will be greatly appreciated. I have no printing at all and my husband and I both need it desperately. He has not been fond of Linux anyway and I do not want to give him more reasons to not like it. Thanks for any help. Sincerely, Marcia On Tuesday 27 November 2001 10:34 pm, you wrote: snip Thank you for your suggestions. The lpq command tells me that xpp is ready and printing with an active job listed that belongs to me. Unfortunately the job is not printing. That is the problem. The strange thing is the printing worked for a couple of days although it needed tweaking for quality. Then out of the blue it stopped working. Has anyone had a similar situation that they were able to fix? Thanks for any help. Yes, I've had similar experiences. The only way that I've been able to recover was to delete all instances of my printer and reinstall the printer drivers from scratch with PrinterDrake. I gave the printer a new name and used the new name. I know there must be a better way, but when you're desparate, anything that works... good luck! Linus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Automounting problem
Civileme, I understand Mandrake's point of view and am willing to live with it from a 'stand-alone' perspective. However, I have to use NIS to communicate with our network servers and my understanding (which is far from extensive :-)) is that I have to install autofs, tweak auto.master, etc. How should such users deal with the autofs problem? Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA civileme wrote: On Saturday 24 November 2001 07:22 am, robin wrote: After installing Mandrake 8.1, I noticed that autofs had not been installed - somewhat to my surprise, since Mandrake usually installs and configures this by default. Ummm no, we use supermount because autofs doesn't play nice with some other things. I've now installed it and it shows up as in DrakConf and lsmod, but am having problems with configuration. At present, the relevant line in my /etc/auto.master file is floppy/etc/auto.misctimeout=60 and in /etc/auto.misc I have floppy-fstype=auto:/dev/fd0 Presumably something is seriously wrong here, since the thing isn't mounting. Manual mounting works fine (though clicking the floppy icon takes me not to /mnt/floppy but to some name search site!). Do NOT use autofs. Make yourself some regular desktop icons for CD and floppy and click to mount, right-click to unmount or eject. We shipped with supermount disabled by default for a reason. Despite our rewrite, the thing doesn't wprk as it should with kernel 2.4 versions. This is a continuation of problems encountered in 8.0 only more severe. For the whole story search on FAQ and on autofs on www.mandrakeforum.com Civileme QA Team I have a pretty standard Mandrake setup, so if someone could send me the relevant configuration files, they'd probably work on my box. Unless I have to recompile the kernel . :-( Thanks, Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cable Modems, Linux and NICs
Thanks Jon. I've picked up a network card and I'll supposedly get a self-install kit on Friday from the local cable provider. Sounds pretty painless. Where's Ashland? (MA?) Terry Smith Jon Dowd wrote: I am connected to the internet via a cable modem on the Ashland Fiber Network This little town has provided its citizens the most extraordinary opportunity. 3-5Mbs or T-3 equivilency (612MB iso file in 48 minutes!) for (eat your hearts out) $24.95 a month ! This network (like most cable systems) gives an IP via DHCP. So during the Mandrake-Linux installation my cheap NIC (RTL8139) was automatically detected and I followed the defaults for the network installation except I clicked on the star next to (bootp - dhcp) and that was all the configuring I needed to do. All the gateway, IP address, host name, DNS stuff was taken care of by the IPS using DHCP (my guess is that most of them do it the same). I was on line at the first boot and still am. If the installer will give you enough cat5 to reach from wherever he leaves the cable modem to your NIC, you can probably shoo him away and boot your computer and be online ! Jon Dowd - Original Message - From: Harry Ablejoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Cable Modems, Linux and NICs Hi Newbie I use cable modem with @ home cable you need a network card I would opt for 3 com pci card. You need to get the settings from installer Network address IP ADDRESS SUBNET MASK GATEWAY/ROUTER HOST: DNS/ NAME SERVER 1 DNS NAME SERVER 2 DOMAIN THIS WILL BE MAIL SERVER LM 8.1 WILL FIND YOUR NETWORK CARD AND YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO MUCH TROUBLE SETTING UP YOUR NETWORK. Good Luck and sorry for the caps. Harry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.293 / Virus Database: 158 - Release Date: 10/29/2001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Digital cameras, usb and devfs
Hi all, I've gotten way behind on my emails on this list. A while back (before Mandrake 8.1) there was some discussion of gphoto, gphoto2, creating and then directly mounting a digital camera directory, etc. I understood most of it. Now I understand that under LM 8.1, the new kernel and devfs there's a different treatment of the usb ports. I don't understand the new stuff. Let me get to the bottom line. I want to access my digital camera - Canon PowerShot S10 - and would prefer to attach via a USB port. Gphoto insists that I specify a serial port. I 've mucked around in the /dev directory and don't see anything that looks like a usb port. Would somebody please point me in the right direction? TIA. Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Whereis WordPerfect??
Before I wiped out my partitions with a clean install of the very wonderful LM 8.1 I had a working version of WordPerfect 8.0 for linux. I'd like to reinstall it (or a newer version if it exists), but I can't find it anywhere on the web. What's the current version (or most recent anyway) and where might I find it?? TIA. Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Whereis WordPerfect??
Thanks Charles and Sarah. I do have Star Office 5.2 installed at home (from the PowerPack) and today, at the office, installed Star Office 6.0 Beta (downloaded from Sun). I think SOffice 6.0 is a real improvement...it read all my Windoze MS files (Word, Excel and PowerPoint) perfectly. We're essentially a WordPerfect shop, however, and, at the very least, I need to read WP files and convert them to something that Soffice or Abiword can read. I may have an old tarball on a backup somewhere. I'll look around. Thanks. Terry Smith On Wednesday 21 November 2001 15:10, sarah white wrote: star office is good. it comes with 8.1 - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Whereis WordPerfect?? On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:11:54 -0500 Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I wiped out my partitions with a clean install of the very wonderful LM 8.1 I had a working version of WordPerfect 8.0 for linux. I'd like to reinstall it (or a newer version if it exists), but I can't find it anywhere on the web. What's the current version (or most recent anyway) and where might I find it?? Wordperfect8 has gone the way of Puff the Magic Dragon. The only thing that Corel now offers or supports is WordPerfect Office, which is over kill if all you want is a word proccesser and the Linux version can run you $100+. I lucked up and found WordPerfect8, retail box, on the closeout rack at a local office supply store for $10 about a month ago. The only thing I can tell you is to try searching some of the software vendors, especially those that handle closeout and used products. Charles --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mobos and RAID
Civlime (and other hardware experts), We've had some discussion about mobos and chipsets over the last couple of months. I'm looking at a new box and am considering these two configurations from Cyclox Computers (www.cyclox.com) Both are AMD Socket A boards with 266 mhz FSB, ATX form factor. 1. Asus w/AliM1647 Northbridge/Ali M1535D Southbridge chipset. You had spoken positively about this combo in the past. 2. Iwill w/RAID (apparently the KA266-R mobo). This mobo uses the Ali MagiK 1 Chipset (Ali M11647 and M1535D - the same as the Asus board) and the AMI 80649 RAID Chip. If we assume that Iwill can make a good board (anybody using their stuff?) that since it uses the same chipset as the Asus mobo, it will past muster. What about the RAID controller and what are your general thoughts about going to a RAID configuration? Thanks. Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mobos and RAID
Ah, what's a newbie to do in searching for the best box :-)). Thanks to Randy, Sridhar, Tom, Charles and Civileme for quick responses to my query about some boxes being offered by Cyclox Computers. OK, I've calmed down on the RAID configuration. Clearly I'm not ready for RAID (or RAID's not ready for me). I'm confused on the Socket A 'standard' configuration choice, though. Back in June I asked about the Asus A7A266/Ali MAGiK 1 chipset combo. Civileme's assessment is appended below (you'll recall that, at the time, there was [still is?] some bugs with some of the VIA chipsets). I read it as quite positive. Charles suggests, however, that the AMD Socket A/Ali performance is not good. Tom made the excellent suggestion that I review what AMD was recommending. They reccommend 4 Asus boards three of which use the VIA KT133 chipset and the other the AMD-761/VIA-686B. The only recommended board that uses the Ali chipset is one offered by EliteGroup. How do I interpret this info? Tom (in a note in June) and Charles both suggest rolling my own. That may be wise but I've never done it before (well I did hand modify my Kaypro - cutting some traces on the mobo -soldering in a new clock - but that was a long time ago!). If I do assemble the pieces where do I start for system recommendations? The Duke of URL? Thanks. Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA civileme wrote: On Wednesday 27 June 2001 17:38, Terrence Smith wrote: I'm still a relatively new 'newbie' but making steady progress! I value the list, am delighted to be learning a new way to compute (back to my roots so to speak), etc., etc. I've got a brain-damaged Compaq box at home that barely manages to run LM 8.0 and so have been looking about for a 'genuwine' linux box. The motherboard/chipset discussion is most valuable and I thank the list and especially Civileme for their advice. I'm currently looking at a box put together by an outfit called Cyclox (www.cyclox.com). They have a 'workstation' model thus: Asus Mobo (must be the A7A266 AliMAGiK 1 DDR) although they don't say so. It has the AliM1647 Northbridge and ALIM1535D+ SouthBridge controllers 266 mhz FSB 2 DIMSS for DDR SDRAM 3 DIMMS for PC133 DDRAM C-media CMI-8738 audio chip (onboard) AGP Pro slot with AGP 4X support 5 PCI, up to 6 USB, 2 ser, 1 par Dual channel bus master w/ ATA-33/66/100 support ATX form My two questions: Does this mobo/chipset set have the problems with linux performance/stability that we've been hearing about? Nope. It is a hot box right on the bleeding edge. Equip it properly and clock conservatively and you should have good service. Been a while since I saw an ALi chipset, but they were very good in everything but Acer Compuers, and those folks made enough money to buy Texas Instruments. I haven't seen the TI/Acer Notebooks lately either, but then I am living in France. Civileme Anybody dealt with this company? No, but I would be concerned about something in their Ads. They are selling VULNERABLE IBM Notebooks with RH installed. RH installs lm_utils by default and anyone who uses them to check battery power on most IBM Laptops will be sending it back to the factory for a new Motherboard. George Staikos of kde.org provided information to us and to RH about the threat to certain models of IBM notebooks. Our lm_utils are excluded by default. You have to hunt them down. Anyway, cyclox is selling those notebooks with RH and may find itself in financial difficulties with warranty matters. Other than that, their page seems a bit on the glitzy side, but more intelligent than most sell-a-brick-and-call-it-an-ATA-733-brick operations. TIA. Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mouse/cursor translated
I've got my home and office machines running LM8.0 (June Update) and have run into an annoying problem with the box at home. Occasionally (more often lately), while in a KDE session, my mouse position will be translated. By that I mean the coordinates shown by the cursor and the coordinates of the spot actually activated by a mouse click are not the same. The 'mouse click' location is 1/2 to the left of what the cursor shows. Fairly annoying at the least and very difficult, if not impossible, to select from pull down menus, etc. at the worst. This happens during the session and can be 'corrrected' by rebooting (but not by logging out and in). So ... what's causing this? Is there a way to reorient the mouse without logging out or rebooting? TIA. Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA, USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Interfacing a Mindspring Visor
Hello, Another newbie question from someone with a new toy...specifically a Mindspring Visor Deluxe (Palm Pilot clone using Palm Software). I have a synchronization cradle that hooks in on the USB port. Could someone get me started with some answers to very basic questions. 0. Does the LM 8.0 distro have documentation on using a Palm? If so, where is it? 1. How do I tell LM that I want it to access a USB port? 2. What program(s) do I need to run to interface with the handheld? Will kpilot do it? 3. Assuming I'm hooked up what do folks use for databases (I'm usually in the KDE environment)? TIA. Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Kernel panic: Reiser FS
Hi gang, I've got a fairly serious problem with my linux box (dual boot with Win98). I left my machine at work running overnight. When I came in this morning it had died and when I attempted to reboot I've got a 'kernel panic' message driven by an inability to mount the root fs (reiser). This means I can't use 'failsafe' or anything else in lilo. Here's the particulars: LM 8.0 June Freq Update: includes kernel 2.4.5, gnome 1.4, kde 2.2alpha, etc. Been working fine (for a week or so). Machine: Micron w/PII @ 480 mhz, 64 mg RAM, 10 gig drive, etc. Filesystem: Reiser FS on all partitions except Swap. I've been using Reiser on everything but swap for the last 6 months. No problems. I don't have a boot floppy (coulnd't make one on this installation. do have a boot floppy at home but my drives at home are partitioned slightly differently [windoze has drives c and d so linux starts at hda3; here they start with hda2]). My 'official' LM CDs with the update are at home as well. I can drag these things in tomorrow. In checking the Reiser website I see that there is a Reiser analog to fsck - reiserfsck - I'm assuming it's installed but how do I use it if I can't access the drive??? Clearly I can reinstall and reformat the partitions but I'll lose everything. I could reformat only / and hopefully recover /home (which is Reiser) where all the 'good stuff' is. But is there some way to run 'reiserfsck' if I can boot from a floppy? Anybody have some clever idea(s)? TIA. Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA
Re: [newbie] WP and Mandrake8
Michael, I can't install it either. I suspect a kernel version problem and asked the list but have no confirmation. Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA mrc wrote: It seems that WP8 will not run on Mandrake8. Has anyone else had this problem? -- Michael
Re: [newbie] Sane
Andreas et al., Thanks for helping me out with my earlier automounting problem, BTW. Works fine now. I wonder if you or someone on the list could point me in the right direction on hooking in a scanner on my linux box. Just some basic info on context would be an enormous help. One of the problems with being a linux newbie is that you often can't even figure out what part of the forest a particular tree is in! I have SANE and xscanimage installed (LM 8.0). I have an HP 500 PSC all-in-one (scanner, printer, copier) hooked in on the parallel port. Printing works fine. xscanimage will run but is not communicating with the printer/scanner. Do I need to get a driver from HP? Is SANE only for SCSI hookups? In short what kind of steps do I need to take to grab an image from the scanner? TIA. Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA Andreas J. Guelzow wrote: Leland L Waters wrote: I installed Sane with frontends and backends (from MDK 8.0 install disk) on my desktop computer running MDK 8.0. I can can access my scanner from GIMP, but only get a communication error. I am running an ABIT BP6 motherboard with a pair of Celeron 366's (at 550 Mbps) and 384K PC133 ram. The scanner is a HP 4C flatbed connected to channel 1 of a TEKRAM DC-390U3W SCSI 160 controller. Where do I find a SANE configuration utility? There is a bug in SANE 1.0.3/1.0.4 that causes this problem if you are using a 2.4 kernel. THere is a very simple fix for that but I haven't gotten around to compiling a repaired RPM. See: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2001-10/0413.html If you should encounter a fixed mandrake rpm, please let me know Andreas -- Prof. Dr. Andreas J. Guelzow Chair of Science Concordia University College of Alberta [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.math.concordia.ab.ca/aguelzow
Re: [newbie] Lexmark Z11 Printer. Has anyone got one to work withmdk8
Negative report here. I think I have a Lexmark Z11. At least it looks like one but it's been rebadged as a Compaq IJ300 and came with my windoze Compaq 'bundle'. Anyhow none of the likely Lexmark drivers work (CUPS 1.1). The Compaq drivers (for the wrong printer) will get something to the printer but it's not usable. I gave up and bought a HP PSC500 (print/scan/copy) which works very nicely (as a printer)! Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA On 30 May 2001 09:44:29 -0400, h3rb wrote: Has anyone got a Lexmark Z11 printer to work with mdk8? I have tried both drivers and the one won't even send any info to the printer. And the sumsum one will send data to the printer. But it just prints out a bunch of yellow lines. If you did get it to work...how! Thx, h3rb
Re: [newbie] Scanning (was xscanimage)
I just sent a message indicating I had added a HP PSC 500 printer to my linux box last evening. It's an 'all-in-one' unit which prints, scans and copies. It's being discontinued and I got a good deal. Works well on the windoze side of the house. I'd like to use the scanner under linux. I know nothing about getting started. I did look at the Mandrake site on supported hardware and got passed to the sourceforge site where I see HP is providing something called 'CVS'. Dennis's note mentions SANE and xscanimage. Could someone point me to page 1 of the 'Scanner How To' so I can begin to tackle this one? Do I have software on the LM 8.0 2-disk distro that will do this? Need SANE? CVS? (I'm a real newbie but learning quickly thanks to this list.) TIA. Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA On 30 May 2001 10:36:24 -0500, Dennis Myers wrote: I am trying to get my scanner working. I have installed sane and am trying to install xscanimage. When I use the rpm package, I get a dependency for libgimp-1.1.so.18 . There is no libgimp-1.1.so.18 any where to be found on rpmfind or on the CDs. Only 1.2 version. Has anyone got this thing to work? What is a work around or an alternate scanner utility? Any help is appreciated. TIA -- Dennis M. registered Linux user # 180842
[newbie] Networking Question
One more message from the 'newbie' trenches I need a little expert help on getting my machine to recognize network file systems. At work I've got LM 8.0 installed on a Micron Millenium running a ~500mhz PII. We're on a Sun-based intranet supported by a bunch of clever folks who know Unix and generic linux and, on the linux side, are most familiar with RedHat. Officially, we're a Sun/Microsoft only site but our data management people do have a few linux servers running, etc. Here's the problem. I can't see the network file systems from my linux machine. I'm on the network fine. I've done the following per the instructions of our network gurus (without really knowing what is behind this and without them putting their hands on my machine): 1. install and turn on the ypbind and autofs daemons. 2. go to 'etc/auto.master' and add the line: /net yp:auto.net --timeout=60 3. go to '/etc/rc.d/init.d' and run 'autofs reload' 4. go to /net (which has been created on my machine) and do a 'ls'. I'm supposed to see all the network drives. I get nothing. If I run 'autofs status' I get: /usr/bin/automount --timeout 60 /net yp auto.net /home auto_home /usr/bin/automount --timeout 60 /- yp auto_direct -browse When I logon I see all the usernames on the system (NIS?). So where are the server files??? TIA. Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA
Re: [newbie] Problems with RPM
I've had exactly the same problems (LM 8.0 GPL distro from Cheap Bytes), except I can't even do a successful direct 'rpm' from the console unless I've just rebuilt the database. What I ended up doing last night is use the disks to do an 'update' installation, selecting, at the 'individual package' level, a few things that hadn't been installed on my initial complete installation. Seemed to work fine. Terry Smith (the other Terry:-) Woods Hole, MA Terry wrote: Thanks for the help Mike, but that didn't help me either. Sure wish I knew what the problem was. Would really hate to reinstall LM yet again on this machine to fix it. Terry On Tuesday 22 May 2001 18:56, you wrote: On Tuesday 22 May 2001 09:07, you wrote: I had the same problem with Software Manager telling me things were already installed and I tried the rpm --rebuilddb with no luck then I tried rpm --rebuilddb then ran updatedb right after and went back to Software Manager and it worked again. Dont know why but it worked for me try it and see if it helps. I ran them in console not from KDE or Gnome. Good luck. Thanks for the answers, but I have tried those, and they still don't have any effect on Software Manager. Things work just fine at the command line, just not in Software Manager. If I try to use rpm -e packagename from the command line, it just tells me that the package is not installed on this system. Software Manager is being very peculiar. Anyone else come across this sort of problem? Terry On Tuesday 22 May 2001 16:38, you wrote: first use rpm --rebuilddb then if you still have a report that packages are installed, try rpm -e packagename for each one and then use the software manager. Civileme
Re: [newbie] troubleshooting vmware Xfree86 DGA support
I'm a true newbie, which means I know very little (if anything) :-)), but I have the same problem with VMWARE. When I told this to my linux guru (our network guy) he said that he suspects that VMWARE is not compatible with XFree86 v. 4***. Perhaps going to version 3 would solve the problem. Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA Tycho Bizot wrote: I am already using vmware 2.04 with the suppert for kernel 2.4 it was a clean install..and i didn't get any errors -Original Message- From: Roger Pithers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: donderdag 10 mei 2001 14:32 To: Tycho Bizot Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] troubleshooting vmware Xfree86 DGA support On Thursday 10 May 2001 10:51, you wrote: I just installed VMware 2.04 in mandrake...it run's. there is only one thing i can't figure out when i start Vmware it gives the following message : ! no xfree86 DGA support for this X-screen ! ! xfree86 Digital Graphics (DGA extension) initialisation failed ! and when i run a virtual win98 machine it says the following : ! The virtual machine will not be able to run in full-screen SVGA mode, because your X-server does not support the Xfree86 DGA extension for direct-to-frame-buffer graphics or because DGA is supported but the virtual machine cannot use it ! I am running mandrake 8.0 with XFree86 4 anyone has a clue? thanx in advance Tycho Try going to VMware's web site, I believe that there is an update available fot the 2.4.x kernel which might fix the problem. Roger
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8 Upgrade Policy
Dennis and Carroll, Thanks. Philosophically, I tend to agree with Carroll. Of course, if Mandrake comes out with a new version every month!... Basically I can't burn my own CD's..at the office I don't have a CD-R/W. Data management does burn a bunch of beta distributions if they have the time but you're never completely sure what you're getting. At home I still haven't gotten around to replacing the dreaded winmodem and so can't communicate with the outside world. Also, from time to time, we need to throw a little money to Mandrake and McMillan otherwise we won't continue to get the latest and greatest version of our favorite distro! BTW, what is BSOD Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA Carroll Grigsby wrote: Terry: AFAIK, their policy is that you're more than welcome to buy another boxed set. If you don't need the Macmillan add-ons, then you can go either the download or Cheapbytes route. My take is that the boxed sets are a pretty good value -- no long downloads via 56k modem, no CD burning, a printed manual or two, and I get another picture of Tux in the bargain; others, of course, prefer to go some other way for their own reasons. Remember, too, that the full Macmillan sets are less expensive than Microsoft's upgrades, and include a whole lot more than an operating system, browser, and some utilities. The only thing that Mandrake doesn't include is the BSOD. Regards, Carroll Terry Smith wrote: Hi folks, I'm just getting back on the list after being dropped a month ago. I see that LM 8.0 is out, has good reviews, etc. I'd like to get it. I purchased a boxed version of the basic LM 7.2 about two months ago. Does Mandrake/McMillan have any kind of upgrade policy? TIA. Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA
[newbie] Mandrake 8 Upgrade Policy
Hi folks, I'm just getting back on the list after being dropped a month ago. I see that LM 8.0 is out, has good reviews, etc. I'd like to get it. I purchased a boxed version of the basic LM 7.2 about two months ago. Does Mandrake/McMillan have any kind of upgrade policy? TIA. Terry Smith Woods Hole, MA
