Re: (LONG) High Resolution Scanning

2002-03-27 Thread Paul Stenquist

PhotoShop needs high speed storage, because it writes everything you do
to a scratch disk. I installed a firewire card and firewire drive on my
G3 300 Mac, and PhotoShop is now at least twice as fast as it was.
Paul

Doug Franklin wrote:
 
 Hi Bruce,
 
 On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 20:12:38 -0800 (PST), Bruce Rubenstein wrote:
 
  You need more memory and a faster CPU.
 
 Well, I surely agree with more memory.  I should receive the upgrade to
 512MB tomorrow.  Time will tell if 1 GB or more would be useful.  I
 figure that 512MB will allow me to give Photoshop enough memory for at
 three full-resolution layers.  That should be enough for a while. :-)
 
 As to the CPU, I'm not so sure.  In general, in Photoshop I spend a lot
 more time waiting for data to move between the memory and disk than I
 do waiting for the CPU.  I rarely use the more esoteric filters, and
 the USM filter runs about 15 to 20 seconds on a full resolution (125
 MB) image.  Personally, I find that quite tolerable in the midst of the
 other wait times in the process.  Saving one of these images takes
 about 3-4X as long as cropping or USM.
 
  I wouldn't bother with SCSI HDs. I would get a SCSI
  interface card for the scanner.
 
 Well, if I'm going to get and install a SCSI controller, I might as
 well get a really fast SCSI drive to go with it. :-)  Any excuse for
 more speed!  [grunt-grunt-grunt]  Besides, I'm a big fan of SCSI.  The
 only reason this computer doesn't have it is cost.  My other computer
 doesn't have an IDE bone in its body, but it's a Pentium 166 MHz.
 
  Grain and sharpening: Go into channels [...]
 
 This is my standard policy.  For most of my photos, I find that the
 best approach is usually to move to the CIE*Lab color model, and do
 my sharpening on the Lightness channel.  But every image is
 different, and I experiment freely with them.
 
  It'm much more important to have the scanner on a solid base than the printer.
 
 Well, that makes sense, up to a point.  In my case, the scanner is
 trying to resolve 4,000 ppi while the printer is only trying to do
 2,880 dpi.  But it seems to me that 2,880 dpi is still pretty small,
 and the half-assed stereo rack holding my printers, flailing away like
 a pennant in a gale, can't be doing my results any good. :-)
 
  Try throwing a bean bag on top of the scanner and see if it makes a difference.
 
 Well, it's not that I've noticed a problem.  In fact, the scanner pulls
 native sharpness out of the negatives that didn't make the translation
 to prints (the only thing I've scanned before).  I'm just kinda anal
 retentive about stuff like that, and I've seen the effects of
 mechanical dampening (damping?) on my attempts at frame-filling moon
 shots.
 
 I just wish it was as easy to drop a couple of pounds of ballast on the
 printer.
 
 TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Re: Photos of migrating Cranes in Washington

2002-03-27 Thread kleickly

In a message dated 3/26/2002 11:48:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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 http://www.geocities.com/harald_nancy/sandhill_crane.htm
 

Thank you for the beautiful photos and story.  I truly enjoyed them.
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Re: 6x7 enabled (now some questions to the brotherhood)

2002-03-27 Thread Pat White

Welcome to the brotherhood, Mike!  As to your questions, the camera comes in 6x7 
non-mirror lock-up (non-MLU), which is 69-75, 6x7 MLU, which is 76-89, then comes the 
67, which  was made from 1990 til mid-1998, when the 67II was released.

The shutter cocking key enables you to operate the shutter with no film in the camera, 
but according to How to Select and Use Medium Format Cameras, it's best used by 
camera techs, as you can cause a problem if you're not sure what you're doing.  You 
can do the same thing by opening the back, rotating the little knob in the middle of 
the film counter past '1', then closing the back while keeping the knob past '1' with 
your fingertip.

This is something you typically do when you first get the camera, and want to 
familiarize yourself with the operation, and get used to the feel and sound of the 
shutter and mirror.  If you remove the lens and trip the shutter, you can actually 
feel a breeze from that big mirror flipping up!

If you get curious and remove the prism, the meter won't work until you remove and 
re-install the lens, in order to re-couple the meter.

You're right, the viewfinder's not that bright, which makes the f2.4 and f2.8 lenses 
noticeably easier to focus than the f4 lenses.

Now get out there and make some pictures!  To test a freshly acquired camera, I'd bang 
off a roll and get it developed the same day, to be sure everything's OK, but maybe 
I'm just the impatient type.  Happy shooting, Brother Mike!

Brother Pat
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Re: Number of focus points (was Re[2]: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!

2002-03-27 Thread Mark Roberts

Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 easily impressed with such rubbish as '45 focus
 points' when a tenth of that number will work perfectly well (or, for our 
 manual focus aficionados, none!).

in fact, a manual focus slr has an infinite number of focus points.

Yeah, but they're infinitely small!
 ;-)

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Asahi pentax profit/loss

2002-03-27 Thread MPozzi

It may interesting info to some (remember reading in
some earlier mails), not sure if its old news, to know
that pentax has been making losses since 1999. 

http://profiles.wisi.com/profiles/scripts/corpinfo.asp?CUSIP=C392W0060B1=Submit


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Re: Hooray for me or Forcefully unenabled

2002-03-27 Thread Evan Hanson

Thanks for the suggestions.  Don't worry if I start to lose by
hummanity I always have the PDML to put me in my place.

Evan

 
 There is some lovely scenery on the other side of the mountais
 from Denver. The Leadville area is a favourite of mine, though
 you might find the air a little thin, as the town is nearly
 12,000  msl.
 You will also be fairly close to Santa Fe, NM, and closer to
 Taos NM. I don't understand why you want to dehumanize yourself
 with the law degree, but I do envy where you will be living
 close to.
 Congratulations.
 
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Re: Hooray for me or Forcefully unenabled

2002-03-27 Thread Evan Hanson

I can just see it now.  Have you been hurt in a photo processing
accident.  If so we can get you the settlement you deserve. ; )

Evan

Aaron Reynolds wrote:
 
 Good work getting in, Evan.  Just be a nice lawyer, will ya?  Not one of
 those slimy TV lawyers in short skirts.
 
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Re: Hooray for me or Forcefully unenabled

2002-03-27 Thread Evan Hanson

Stan, mid July is actually our target for getting out there. 
I'll keep you posted.

Evan

Stan Halpin wrote:
 
 Way ta go!
 
 When do you get out there? I'll be in Denver for a week in late July,
 accompanying my wife to a conference . . .
 
 Stan
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Re: Number of focus points (was Re[2]: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!

2002-03-27 Thread Steve Larson

It makes ya wonder, how did all those photographers get any keepers
before auto focus? VBG
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California

Bob Walkden wrote:


 Hi,

  easily impressed with such rubbish as '45 focus
  points' when a tenth of that number will work perfectly well (or, for
our
  manual focus aficionados, none!).

 in fact, a manual focus slr has an infinite number of focus points.

 ---

  Bob
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Re: Contax digital slr (WAS: Re: Rome Photo show)

2002-03-27 Thread Pål Jensen

Rob wrote:

 Furthermore; those engineers said that Sigma's market strategy was to
 become the third professional digital camera supplier, along with Canon
 and Nikon.


It might at first seem far fetched but I suspect that in the future camera sales may 
be chip driven rather than name driven. Most people don't sit on a large selection of 
lenses so changing systems isn't that big deal as it is usually made out to be. Sigma 
already have HSM lenses and have annouced that they will relase image stabilized 
lenses at the end of the year. 
Regardless, I believe that when digital really start to dominate the market, big 
changes may occur in market share.

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Re: 6x7 enabled

2002-03-27 Thread Bill D. Casselberry

 Mike I wrote:
 
 ... how about waist level finder - how useful is it with this camera? 

I just remove the prism on mine and use the underlying screen
as a waist-level finder, though there is a magnifying waist-
level finder made for it.

Was out just yesterday doing this w/ some Velveeta under
bright overcast conditions down by our harbor. 
- f11-16 @ 1/8-1/15th w/ MLU off a tripod.

Bill

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Re: (LONG) High Resolution Scanning

2002-03-27 Thread Aaron Reynolds

More RAM, yes, more processor speed, no.

I'm running a blue  white G3 400 with a gig of RAM.  Until a few months 
ago I was running with 512 megs of RAM, which was how I picked up the 
system nearly three years ago.  Our bottleneck is now drive speed.  I 
replaced our original 5200 rpm drive with a larger 7200 rpm one about a 
year ago, and that boosted Photoshop performance noticeably.  Now that 
they've dropped in price, I'm thinking of adding a large FireWire 
external drive.  I'll let you know if I do what the result is.

Anyhow, with the above system, I do not find the performance while 
scanning or tweaking large files to be sluggish until the file size goes 
above 750 megs (6x9 neg scan at 4000dpi with multiple layers).  Since I 
am rarely in that situation, I am not considering an upgrade to my 
tower's processor at this time.

Another thing to keep in mind is that with files that are bigger than 
100 megs, you'll run out of scratch disk space in a hurry.  I like to 
keep at least 5 gigs free for Photoshop's scratch disk.  Without that 
much, performance really drops with big files.

So, if I'm remembering my benchmarks right, your 733 machine should be 
faster than my G3 400.  You're fine.  512 megs of RAM was good enough 
for me until I started making 4000dpi scans from medium format.  Get 
some big, fast drives and have a good time.

Does the scanner have a FireWire option?  I don't know if it was because 
of scanner performance or because of FireWire vs. SCSI, but our old SCSI 
SprintScan 4000 scanned more slowly than our newer SprintScan 120.  Both 
would be significantly faster than USB, which is relatively slow.  If 
you're using the scanner through USB, that could be what is causing your 
long scan times.

Have fun!

-Aaron
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slide scanners

2002-03-27 Thread Piet Smit

has anyone tried this slide scanner ??? 

http://ww1.microtek.com/Europe-E/Web/Product.php?
ThisPage=ScannersProduct=DetailP_Id=67


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Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!

2002-03-27 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, March 26, 2002, at 10:28  PM, Bruce Rubenstein wrote:

 Pentax has to have some cameras, for people who don't
 already have Pentaxes, that people think of when models like Elan 7, 
 N80 and
 Maxxum 7 are considered. The ZX-5n is nice, but it's old and doesn't 
 compare
 well on paper.

What about the MZ-S?  Yep, slower drive speed, but look at the gorgeous 
build of the thing.  Aside from the drive, it is very well spec'd.

-Aaron
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Re: Fuji NPS 160-Best ISO setting?

2002-03-27 Thread Aaron Reynolds

Second dot is correct.  I quite like NPS: it is quite natural, maybe 
even a little restrained in terms of saturation, with a fine grain and 
lovely skin tones.

-Aaron
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Re: Contax/Sigma/Digital

2002-03-27 Thread Mark Roberts

Pål Jensen wrote:

Rob wrote:

 Furthermore; those engineers said that Sigma's market strategy was to
 become the third professional digital camera supplier, along with Canon
 and Nikon.

It might at first seem far fetched but I suspect that in the future camera
sales may be chip driven rather than name driven. Most people don't sit
on
a large selection of lenses so changing systems isn't that big deal as
it
is usually made out to be. Sigma already have HSM lenses and have annouced
that they will relase image stabilized lenses at the end of the year. 
Regardless, I believe that when digital really start to dominate the market,
big changes may occur in market share.

Sigma has been moving in this direction for some time, as evidenced from
their large (and growing) selection of primes. I'm not at all surprised
to hear that they'll have IS lenses before long; I've suspected they were
working on that for some time. (It'll be interesting to see if the IS lenses
are dedicated Sigma camera body only or if they'll be available in other
mounts.)

Indeed the times they are a-changing. 2002 is shaping up to be a very interesting
year.

BTW: If anyone's interested in testing one of Sigma's EX series lenses,
just come on down to Grandfather Mountain in June and I'll let you try out
my EX 300/2.8 APO for a few shots. Bet you'll be impressed.


-- 
Mark Roberts
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RE: Skinning your 6x7 -- and gluing the skin back on

2002-03-27 Thread Matamoros, Cesar A.

Aaron Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 5:05 PM

On Tuesday, March 26, 2002, at 04:29  PM, Christian Skofteland wrote:

 Or you could get snakeskin!

I was thinking of blue plush, myself.

-Aaron

Face it, you guys just cannot stay away from those skins!  As an aside, it
appears that the snake skins are well liked by the females.  I was at this
one shop in Tucson and finally the clerk had to ask me about it.  She
thought it was great!  Hmmm, maybe I need to take them out more...

César
Panama City, Florida
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Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!

2002-03-27 Thread Doug Brewer

At 01:53 AM 3/27/02 -0500, you wrote:

Isn't it still possible for some org to still buy pentax ?

Why would a company buy Pentax when Canon or Nikon will =give= them equipment?



But of all people there with their brand by choice, u still dont know
how many are pentaxers, do you ?

Yes, if you can count.
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Re: 6x7 enabled (now some questions to the brotherhood)

2002-03-27 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, March 26, 2002, at 09:42  PM, Mike Ignatiev wrote:

 Just got the 6x7 MLU camera which I bought on ebay a couple of weeks 
 ago. To
 say the least, I am impressed. It feels so right, despite the size and
 weight! The ergonomics is wonderful. The weight is quite manageable and 
 it
 is very comfortable to handhold.

Congrats!  Welcome to the fold.  And yeah, doesn't it feel great in your 
hands?  It just cries out to you, Take pictures with me!

 I am a bit disappointed with the lens
 (105mm f/2.4, new style) built, feels like SMC-A lenses, a bit too 
 plasticky
 for my taste, but still OK.

I've read this from a few members, and I must say, I'm a bit boggled by 
it.  Are you referring to the rubber focusing grip?  I bought my 105mm 
new in 1998, and I find it to be much more nicely built than my A* 200mm 
f2.8 (which I don't have any complaints about), and about on par with 
the M-series 35mm lenses I've had and seen.  The only difference in 
build I could detect with an older 105mm was the absence of the rubber 
grip.

  A bigger disappointment is the focusing screen
 brightness -- I guess I got spoiled by LX and ME-S (those look like p/s
 cameras put by its side).

What you'll find is that while the screen looks like it lacks contrast, 
it is astonishingly easy to focus with.  Things just 'pop' when they're 
in focus.

  Are
 there good replacement for the standard screen? Are they expensive?
 Difficult to change (the manual says by authorized personel)?

I saw a 6x7 with the Beattie Intenscreen or whatever it's called, and 
while it was brighter, I didn't find it any easier to focus with.

Pentax Canada's catalog used to list the price of the grid screen and 
the others as 'installed'.  I don't know if I'd want to do it myself.

The other Brothers have answered the rest of your questions better than 
I could, so I'll leave it at that.  I do have a shutter cocking key, and 
I think I've used it three times -- twice on the day I got the camera, 
and once to show someone else.  More often I use the 'spin the dial' 
technique for dry firing -- almost always for showing someone else the 
camera.  :)

-Brother Aaron
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DC Pro Europe launches Accessory Programme with Pentax UK

2002-03-27 Thread Rob Brigham

Digital camera accessories specialist, DC Pro Europe, has launched a
dedicated accessories programme for Pentax Optio 330/430 digital camera
users, in partnership with Pentax UK. 

Promoted via a camera-specific accessories catalogue, packaged with
Pentax Optio cameras, the DC Pro accessory range permits Optio camera
users to further enhance the Optio cameras' high specifications by
adding Tiffen telephoto, wide angle and close-up lenses and filters by
means of a unique lens adaptor mount. 

The adaptor mount, which fits around the Optio's existing lens to permit
full zoom travel, screws into the camera's tripod socket to provide a
secure means by which to mount Tiffen MegaPlus 2x telephoto, 0.56x wide
angle and close-up lenses onto the camera. 

The accessory programme also includes Tiffen filters, Value Kits, memory
cards and readers, camera bags, power adaptors, batteries and chargers,
tripods, software and general accessories. 

For further information on accessories for any digital camera model,
call DC Pro Europe free on 0800 454571.



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Pentax introduces compact, waterproof roof-prism binoculars

2002-03-27 Thread Rob Brigham

Pentax have announced the addition of two binoculars to the popular
Pentax DCF series: the 8x28 DCF MP and the 10x28 DCF MP. Despite their
compact, lightweight design, these new models feature a fully
water-shielded, nitrogen-filled body and high-performance roof-prism
optics incorporating multi-coated optical elements and phase-coated
prisms. Their waterproof design makes them ideal for use on or around
the water, as well as for observations in harsh weather and extreme
climates. 

The waterproof body of these DCF MP models is rated JIS Class 6,
allowing the user to wash them clean when they get dirty or are
accidentally soaked in salt water. The body is filled with nitrogen to
prevent fogging caused by sudden temperature changes.* Pentax's original
inner-focus optics not only makes them smaller and lighter, but also
assures a sharp, bright image without distortion. In addition, these
models incorporate a host of user-friendly features to make viewing
pleasant and fatigue-free. 

More details on:

http://www.ephotozine.com/news/fullnews.cfm?newsid=617
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RE: Asahi Pentax profit/loss

2002-03-27 Thread Mick Maguire

That does need to be viewed in the light of a long standing recession in
Japan.

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RE: Asahi Pentax profit/loss

2002-03-27 Thread Brendan

Don't forget the rest of the world in general is in a
recession.

--- Mick Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That does need to be viewed in the light of a long
 standing recession in
 Japan.
 
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Re: (LONG) High Resolution Scanning

2002-03-27 Thread Mishka

My only comment is on memory. I have Nikon 4000ED and 768M memory. I
feel barely adequate. The photoshop starts swapping mercilessly after
the 3rd operation on 125M files (I have history set to 4, which is as
little as I can live with). I will go for 1.5G as soon as I stop
throwing money away buying photo stuff. The CPU is a relatively minor
issue (I have athlon 1.2G with 133MHz bus and don't feel any need to
upgrade): once you hit the memory limit, the swapping kills performance
by many orders of magnitude, no matter how fast everything else is. So
my advise is, forget about everything else, go get TONS of memory -- it
pays, and with just 512M, everything else is irrelevant.
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How do you cope with multiple formats?

2002-03-27 Thread Pål Jensen

More and more of us are using medium format along with our 35mm K-mount systems. How 
do you cope with this? Are you shooting MF under certain circumstances and 35mm at 
other? Personally, I've used both systems side by side and consequently are constantly 
agonizing about what to use when and how balance lens selection between the two 
formats. I'm torned between the wish of extra quality of MF and therefore using MF as 
much as possible (and investing in more, longer telephoto 645 lenses), and the wish of 
saving as much weight as possible. I have now finally decided on the following general 
nature/landscape outfit: 645N body, FA645 33-55/4.5, FA645 55-110/5.6; MZ-S body, FA* 
200/4 ED Macro, FA* 400/5.6. Now this outfit will cover focal lenght from 20mm to 
400mm (in 35mm system terms) and is very versatile. Common sense(?) have told me since 
I already own the wonderful, albeit heavy, FA* 200/4 Macro I'll better take advantage 
of it and put it into regular use. Using this lens with a heavyer MF outfit is out of 
the question due to weight issues. Nedless to say, I don't yet own the 645 lenses 
above but their low weight is pretty amazing and allow me carrying a complete system 
withou excessive weight. I would, however, have prefered something like a 75-150/5.6 
instead of the 55-110/5.6.  

Pål
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Re: Asahi Pentax profit/loss

2002-03-27 Thread Otis Wright, Jr.

You mean loss of capital really doesn't count during a recession?  If you
bleed long enough.recession or no recession!

Otis Wright

Brendan wrote:

 Don't forget the rest of the world in general is in a
 recession.

 --- Mick Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  That does need to be viewed in the light of a long
  standing recession in
  Japan.
 
  Regards,
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Re: (LONG) High Resolution Scanning

2002-03-27 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.

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Subject: (LONG) High Resolution Scanning

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 OPEN QUESTIONS
 --
 1) Does anyone have suggestions for PhotoShopping away the artifacts
 of grain aliasing?  In my experiments, it looks like a Median Blur
 with a radius of about four pixels does a decent job of smoothing
 things out, but doesn't get rid of the speckles.  It does, though,
 make the image easier for USM to handle.  It helps reduce emphasizing
 the speckles, and it seems to give USM data it likes better for the
 actual edges in the image.  I'm really wondering if there's a way to
 clone the area into a new layer, then combine the layer with the
 original layer to get rid of them or knock down their intensity or
 something.

Conver to LAB, then use the Median filter in the A and B channels, where
there is significantly less detail.  Then apply dust and scratches to the
L channel.

 2) Does anyone know of any resources on scanning and printing accuracy
 in relation to the solidity of the mechanical support of the scanner or
 printer.  IOW, we all know about blurry pictures and wobbly tripods ...
 but how do wobbly tables play into the accuracy we're getting from our
 scanners and printers?

Less of a problem with printers than for scanners I would think, but I doubt
that anyone uses a wobbly table for either.

Maris
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Re: How do you cope with multiple formats?

2002-03-27 Thread tom

On 27 Mar 2002 at 15:37, Pål Jensen wrote:

 More and more of us are using medium format along with our 35mm K-mount systems.
 How do you cope with this? Are you shooting MF under certain circumstances and
 35mm at other? 

I'm pretty much at the point where I only use 35mm for weddings and backpacking.

Unlike you, I don't shoot much telephoto.

 Nedless to
  say, I don't yet own the 645 lenses above but their low weight is pretty
  amazing and allow me carrying a complete system withou excessive weight. I
  would, however, have prefered something like a 75-150/5.6 instead of the
  55-110/5.6.  

I guess you think the 80-160/4.5 is too heavy?

tv
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RE: Asahi Pentax profit/loss

2002-03-27 Thread MPozzi

Correct about the recession, indeed you can search
Nikon and the other companies (I already did nikon
before it asks me to registed, and that company is in
profit and dashing out dividends.
It is also true that Nikon's size and diversity as
Canon and possibly Minolta is what could be
responsible for the profits (interesting to see how
Milnolta and Canon fare.)
All this also possibly points out to less $$ for
product RnD and hence a more conservative market
approach as well as a less dynamic one...who knows?



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  That does need to be viewed in the light of a long
  standing recession in
  Japan.
  
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Re: K 50mm f/1.4

2002-03-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff

As an afterthought, the Nikon HN-5, which is a screw-on hood, is also an
ideal hood for the Pentax 50mm/1.2 and K50/1.4 lenses, if one wants a
hood shorter than the HN-7.

Len Paris wrote:
 
 The HS-12 was made for the 50mm f/1.2.  
 It fits a 52mm filter size. g .

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RE: Skinning your 6x7 -- and gluing the skin back on

2002-03-27 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]

Hi folks,

Thanks to all who responded to my request for information on a suitable
adhesive for reattaching the leatherette skin pieces I had temporarily
removed from the metal body of my 6x7.  (By the way, I think it may have
been Chris Brogden who pointed me in the direction of the 6x7 service and
parts manual on eBay.  Chris, if you're reading -- thanks!)  I think for the
time being, I'll just go with the standard skin, although the alternative
snakeskin and furry-critter alternative treatments were... well,
interesting.  I may get a dial gauge and check the lens-flange-to-film-plane
clearance before doing the adhesive job, just in case I need to shim the
lens flange.

Thanks again!

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
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Re: Bulk Film loading HELP !!!!!!

2002-03-27 Thread Flavio Minelli

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi, gang
 Devaluation is becoming killer, and film is becoming unbuyable
 ...

Too bad, as most of what's happening to Argentina right now.
Wish you come out of it soon.

 What I'm searching now is advice on how to load the cartridges, brands of
 cartridges, etc, etc.
 ...

Cheapes solution is simply to ransack minilabs for used cartridges. They
just pull the film out and cut it a cm. or two before the cartridge.
Tape the bulk film to the remaining piece of the original one. Do not
use the cartridge more than one or two times. If you're lucky you can
get them for the most used sensitivity and you'll be able to use a DX
equipped camere without hassles.
 
 PS: Color film comes in bulk too?
 ...
Yep. Even Provia 100F slides and some more but it's not as common as
BW.

Ciao, Flavio
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Re: How do you cope with multiple formats?

2002-03-27 Thread Evan Hanson

Pål, I used to have this problem all the time until I realized I
was missing shots debating which camera to use.  This really hit
home on a trip to New York last summer when I was constantly
reframing shots with both the MF and the 35mm.  The whole
experiance made be reevaluate how I use 35mm.  Now I would say I
shoot medium format 80% of the time the execption being snap
shots and when I go out to try shoot macros.  In a dream world my
bag would look like this 645n II a couple of nice lenses; maybe
the zooms, a K1000 with the 645 to K adapter and maybe the
fish-eye zoom or the 100mm macro.  That would give two cameras
three lenses in a managable package for walking around.  Just
maybe I would keep a rangefinder in my pocket just in case.  If
your like me the more you shoot MF the more you find the quality
of 35mm to be unacceptable.

Evan

Pål Jensen wrote:
 
 More and more of us are using medium format along with our 35mm K-mount systems. How 
do you cope with this? Are you shooting MF under certain circumstances and 35mm at 
other? Personally, I've used both systems side by side and consequently are 
constantly agonizing about what to use when and how balance lens selection between 
the two formats. I'm torned between the wish of extra quality of MF and therefore 
using MF as much as possible (and investing in more, longer telephoto 645 lenses), 
and the wish of saving as much weight as possible. I have now finally decided on the 
following general nature/landscape outfit: 645N body, FA645 33-55/4.5, FA645 
55-110/5.6; MZ-S body, FA* 200/4 ED Macro, FA* 400/5.6. Now this outfit will cover 
focal lenght from 20mm to 400mm (in 35mm system terms) and is very versatile. Common 
sense(?) have told me since I already own the wonderful, albeit heavy, FA* 200/4 
Macro I'll better take advantage of it and put it into regular use. Using this lens 
with!
  a heavyer MF outfit is out of the question due to weight issues. Nedless to say, I 
don't yet own the 645 lenses above but their low weight is pretty amazing and allow 
me carrying a complete system withou excessive weight. I would, however, have 
prefered something like a 75-150/5.6 instead of the 55-110/5.6.
 
 Pål
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RE: Carry-on of big-glass

2002-03-27 Thread Mark Roberts

Ryan K. Brooks wrote:

Somewhat on topic, since it's pentax gear.

I'm about to go on a trip that includes a day at the Venice Rookery- so
I
just have to bring along my mint green A*400/2.8 :-). Question is, I've
flown since 9/11- but not with the 400- has anyone had problems carrying

on big glass like this? I'm leaving from O'Hare- and meet all the carry
on
requirements, but a bit concerned that they won't like this big, heavy,
club
like item in my carry on. I don't really trust checking it, even in it's
case.  Pre 9/11 I always carried it in my backpack w/o any problems.

Thoughts?

I don't think you'll have any problems from what I've heard. There are a
lot of people travelling with big lenses (and other photo gear) on the Editorial
Photo mailing list and I haven't heard of any problems with equipment.

Let us know if you do have trouble. I'm flying down to shoot the Boston
Marathon next month and plan to take a significant arsenal in my backpack.



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Re: OT: After a delay...question

2002-03-27 Thread David Spaulding

  Have you considered the Omnibounce on the quickflip.  They address two
 different problems.  The quickflip helps keep the shadows behind the
 head, rather than to the side and also helps to reduce redeye.  The
 Omnibounce helps soften and spread the light so that it doesn't look
 so harsh.  A bit like a softbox.  I used to use the Omnibounce and now
 use the Lumiquest Softbox (about the same price) and also use a
 quickflip at the same time.
 
 
 Bruce Dayton

I figured the omnibounce didn't help the subject shadows, but I've usually
seen it used on-camera. I thought they might know something I don't.

Thanks for the suggestion. The Lumiquest is larger than the Sto-fen, right?
Is there a noticable difference. The most I've ever used on a flash is a
bounce card. Like how that looks, thought the Omnibounce might be better.

I would still need to pay $50-$70 for the dedicated cords etc. if I still
use the quickflip. Maybe I'll just stick with the Vivitar for now.

Thanks again.

Dave
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RE: Skinning your 6x7 -- and gluing the skin back on

2002-03-27 Thread Malcolm Smith

 Face it, you guys just cannot stay away from those skins!  As an aside, it
 appears that the snake skins are well liked by the females.  I was at this
 one shop in Tucson and finally the clerk had to ask me about it.  She
 thought it was great!  Hmmm, maybe I need to take them out more...

   César
   Panama City, Florida

I have an LX which will need a new skin shortly, I'm quite interested in the
new look!

Malcolm
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RE: After a delay...question

2002-03-27 Thread Paris, Leonard

It's only a sylable away from Wintermute. (William Gibson reference)

I use a Sto-Fen Omnibounce 95% of the time when I'm using on-camera flash (I
am also a Stroboframe user, including when I use my Vivitar 285.  I really
like the results from the Stroboframe/sto-Fen combination. I have an
Omnibounce for every flash I own, that's five of them.

Len
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From: David Spaulding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: After a delay...question


Some of you may remember I asked a few photo business questions a while
back. Well, after several weeks of delay I have ordered business cards. The
business is called Winterhawk Photography, Inc. named after a spirited
Indian bred Appaloosa some friends of mine had...his Indian name translated
to Winterhawk.

So, I now have a Mamiya C330f on hold at my local camera store. Pretty nice,
it will get the job done.

I do have a question here...has anyone used a Sto-fen Omnibounce? Its the
flash attachment that help diffuse the light. I've been using a Vivitar 285
on a Stroboframe quickflip. I would like some TTL, but it looks like I may
have to use a TTL flash on-camera (all the dedicated cord stuff is a little
pricey for me right now).  I've never used Sto-fen, but I see them on a lot
of journalist, etc. cameras. I wonder if it would be an ok alternative, or
if the Vivitar on the quickflip is better. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Dave
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RE: OT: After a delay...question

2002-03-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dave,

I would suggest the Lumiquest bouncers.  I've seen/tested the stofen and they tend to 
really diffuse the light, at least with my 283, and as a result, I've got to fiddle 
with apertures or the flash settings. 

I've used the Lumiquest Pocket Bouncer to great effect with the stroboframe quickflip, 
and an off hot shoe connector with sync chord when I had the 645n.

Cheers,
Dave


Original Message:
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From: David Spaulding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:16:02 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: After a delay...question

snip
I do have a question here...has anyone used a Sto-fen Omnibounce? Its the
flash attachment that help diffuse the light. I've been using a Vivitar 285
on a Stroboframe quickflip. I would like some TTL, but it looks like I may
have to use a TTL flash on-camera (all the dedicated cord stuff is a little
pricey for me right now).  I've never used Sto-fen, but I see them on a lot
of journalist, etc. cameras. I wonder if it would be an ok alternative, or
if the Vivitar on the quickflip is better. Any suggestions?
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RE: (LONG) High Resolution Scanning

2002-03-27 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

Doug,

A few points:

Download and install Cachemanager from outertech, it will speed up your
system. If you like it, you can register it for $10.
http://www.outertech.com

If using Vuescan, make sure you switch off TIF compression. Although it
makes your files smaller, it also slows down the process.

Adding memory will increase the speed of scanning, I have noticed.

Frits Wüthrich
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Re: OT: After a delay...question

2002-03-27 Thread David Spaulding

 I would suggest the Lumiquest bouncers.  I've seen/tested the stofen and they
 tend to really diffuse the light, at least with my 283, and as a result, I've
 got to fiddle with apertures or the flash settings.
 
 I've used the Lumiquest Pocket Bouncer to great effect with the stroboframe
 quickflip, and an off hot shoe connector with sync chord when I had the 645n.
 
 Cheers,
 Dave

Thanks. I think I'll take a look at come of the Lumiquest options again. See
what I come up with.

I appreciate the comments.

Dave
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Re: After a delay...question

2002-03-27 Thread David Spaulding

 It's only a sylable away from Wintermute. (William Gibson reference)
 
 I use a Sto-Fen Omnibounce 95% of the time when I'm using on-camera flash (I
 am also a Stroboframe user, including when I use my Vivitar 285.  I really
 like the results from the Stroboframe/sto-Fen combination. I have an
 Omnibounce for every flash I own, that's five of them.
 
 Len

Have you used an omnibounce on a Sunpack 544 or similar? That is the flash I
will be using with the mamiya when I'm not using a monolight.

Thanks for the info.

Dave
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Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!

2002-03-27 Thread Doug Brewer

At 12:55 PM 3/27/02 -0500, Nitin wrote:

small companies ?

How small?


I personally cannot count ratios or percentages this way. YMMV.

You count the whole group. Then count the Pentax shooters. Take the number 
of Pentax shooters and divide it by the number in the whole group. That 
will give you the percentage of the whole group that shoots Pentax. You can 
repeat with other brands to get other percentages.

Guess you're not on a math scholarship, huh?

Doug
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Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!

2002-03-27 Thread Doug Brewer

Nikon has a long and storied history of giving equipment, either out-right 
or on extended loan to influential photogs/organizations in order to be 
seen as the equipment the pros use. That practice, along with 
availability of loaners/repairs for those same organizations/photogs or at 
high-profile events like the Olympics or the Super Bowl, form the basis of 
their whole marketing to pros approach. When Canon wanted in on the 
PJ/sportshooter market, they did the same thing.

They can then market to the Podunk Press by saying, look what the big boys 
use. You should too. And in ads, they can feature big names, and Joe 
Snapshooter can see that the photog he loves uses Nikon/Canon, and 
Nikon/Canon sell Joe a camera.

It's a valid approach and I admire it. It works. And the trickle down 
effect is useful as well; If I'm a Canon shooter covering something that is 
likely to draw other photographers, I can be pretty comfortable knowing 
that I can probably hook up with another shooter there if anything should 
go wrong with one of my pieces of equipment. That alone is reason enough 
only to consider the Nikon/Canon offerings if I'm going to do that type of 
photography.

But again, I'm not complaining about it. All I'm saying is that Pentax has 
never shown any interest in gaining that market, so they don't do the dance.

What Pentax =does= do like the other companies, is feature an occasional 
Name Pro who uses their equipment. Invariably, though, they are Name Pros 
who use Pentax Medium Format equipment, which is what Pentax considers 
professional equipment.

Doug



At 07:47 AM 3/27/02 -0800, Bruce wrote:
Give to keep, or give to try out? Companies don't stay in business giving
things away. What companies, who deal with corporate clients, will do is 
send a
rep over to give a presentation/demo and lend some gear for evaluation. 
This is
pretty standard in many industries. I know when the LA Times was going digital
Nikon and Canon both made presentations and gave demonstrations. The Times was
looking to buy several dozen kits with each consisting of 2 bodies, a 
20-35/2.8
 80-200/2.8 lens.
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Re: A couple of 6x7 questions

2002-03-27 Thread Bruce Dayton

James,

I can't answer #1 but I'll give a crack at #2.

I went through this evaluation recently.  From my understanding there
is nothing that the older bodies give you that are not also in the
67II.  So there is no takeaway in getting the 67II.  Additions are
largely along the lines of automation.  TTL flash, Aperture priority
(with AE finder), double exposure, noticeably brighter focusing
screen.  Kind of like comparing an MX to a Super Program (without
program and shutter priority).  If you don't need/use those features
then the price difference is probably not worth it.


Bruce Dayton



Wednesday, March 27, 2002, 10:05:20 AM, you wrote:

RJR 1. Can someone tell me what a clean, used 6x7 - 35mm adapter should cost?

RJR 2. I used to own a 6x7MLU/TTL body, and miss the huge, beautiful chromes
RJR that it produces. An someone with experience with both the 67 and 67II
RJR bodies give a rundown of the differences? Are the differences worth paying
RJR for (or alternately, under what circumstances are the differences worth
RJR paying for)?

RJR TIA
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Re[2]: OT: After a delay...question

2002-03-27 Thread Bruce Dayton

David,

I'm not sure that there is a big difference between the Omni-bounce
and the Lumiquest Softbox.  I seem to get more consistent exposures
with the Lumiquest.  For some reason, the Omni-bounce occasionally
produced some underexposure.  If I were to purchase again I would get
the Lumiquest again.  I got the Promax Softbox for US $27.00.

HTH,


Bruce Dayton



Wednesday, March 27, 2002, 10:26:48 AM, you wrote:

DS   Have you considered the Omnibounce on the quickflip.  They address two
 different problems.  The quickflip helps keep the shadows behind the
 head, rather than to the side and also helps to reduce redeye.  The
 Omnibounce helps soften and spread the light so that it doesn't look
 so harsh.  A bit like a softbox.  I used to use the Omnibounce and now
 use the Lumiquest Softbox (about the same price) and also use a
 quickflip at the same time.
 
 
 Bruce Dayton

DS I figured the omnibounce didn't help the subject shadows, but I've usually
DS seen it used on-camera. I thought they might know something I don't.

DS Thanks for the suggestion. The Lumiquest is larger than the Sto-fen, right?
DS Is there a noticable difference. The most I've ever used on a flash is a
DS bounce card. Like how that looks, thought the Omnibounce might be better.

DS I would still need to pay $50-$70 for the dedicated cords etc. if I still
DS use the quickflip. Maybe I'll just stick with the Vivitar for now.

DS Thanks again.

DS Dave
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RE: After a delay...question

2002-03-27 Thread Paris, Leonard

Not a 544 but a 433D, a Metz 45CT4, an AF500FTZ, and a Canon 420EX, and a
Vivitar 285HV.  All with excellent results.  I used the Metz and the Vivitar
with Sto-Fen on a Hasselblad 500C, a completely mechanical, manual focus
medium format camera, as is the Mamiya. The results were terrific.  That was
my main wedding shooter rig.

Len
--- 

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From: David Spaulding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: After a delay...question


 It's only a sylable away from Wintermute. (William Gibson reference)
 
 I use a Sto-Fen Omnibounce 95% of the time when I'm using on-camera flash
(I
 am also a Stroboframe user, including when I use my Vivitar 285.  I really
 like the results from the Stroboframe/sto-Fen combination. I have an
 Omnibounce for every flash I own, that's five of them.
 
 Len

Have you used an omnibounce on a Sunpack 544 or similar? That is the flash I
will be using with the mamiya when I'm not using a monolight.

Thanks for the info.

Dave
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Re: How do you cope with multiple formats?

2002-03-27 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

I went to a talk and slide show yesterday given by the UK
photojournalist Tom Stoddart. I was surprised to learn that he uses 2
Leica M6s and an old Rolleiflex 6x6. As far as I could gather he
carries them all at the same time. Some of his most famous photos were
shot with the Rolleiflex. There seem to be 2 factors which decide
which he uses: which format bests suits the scene, and how important
the quality issue is.

This doesn't really answer your question, but it strikes me as
interesting in itself, and also is a useful counter to the
often-repeated claim that photojournalists have 'all gone digital'.
I've noticed recently, and heard from some photojournalists
themselves, that a lot of them are now shooting on larger formats just
so that their work stands out from the digital stuff. Tom Stoddart
reckoned that there is a distinct advantage in giving editors a
well-made large print to hold rather than submitting work on a screen.
Of course, this is for situations where speed of delivery is not a
factor.

Here are some thumbnails of his best known work.
http://www.tomstoddart.com/portfolio/lightbox.html

This one is particularly well known:
http://www.tomstoddart.com/portfolio/pages_big/portfolio_18.html

---

 Bob  

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wednesday, March 27, 2002, 2:37:50 PM, you wrote:

 More and more of us are using medium format along with our 35mm K-mount systems. How 
do you cope with this? Are you shooting MF under certain circumstances and 35mm at 
other? Personally, I've used
 both systems side by side and consequently are constantly agonizing about what to 
use when and how balance lens selection between the two formats. I'm torned between 
the wish of extra quality of MF
 and therefore using MF as much as possible (and investing in more, longer telephoto 
645 lenses), and the wish of saving as much weight as possible. I have now finally 
decided on the following
 general nature/landscape outfit: 645N body, FA645 33-55/4.5, FA645 55-110/5.6; MZ-S 
body, FA* 200/4 ED Macro, FA* 400/5.6. Now this outfit will cover focal lenght from 
20mm to 400mm (in 35mm system
 terms) and is very versatile. Common sense(?) have told me since I already own the 
wonderful, albeit heavy, FA* 200/4 Macro I'll better take advantage of it and put it 
into regular use. Using this
 lens with!
  a heavyer MF outfit is out of the question due to weight issues. Nedless to say, I 
don't yet own the 645 lenses above but their low weight is pretty amazing and allow 
me carrying a complete system
 withou excessive weight. I would, however, have prefered something like a 75-150/5.6 
instead of the 55-110/5.6.  

 Pål
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RE: How do you cope with multiple formats?

2002-03-27 Thread Jens Bladt

On 27 Mar 2002 at 15:37, Pål Jensen wrote:
 More and more of us are using medium format along with our 35mm K-mount
systems.
 How do you cope with this? Are you shooting MF under certain circumstances
and
 35mm at other?

It's like using a ball pen as well as a pencil; two different purposes. I
use MF when high resulution/tonality is required and mostly for planned
shooting, often in the studio (portraits). 35mm for shooting where
action/speed and versitility is crutial. The  diffeculties about coping is
the price of the equipment, isn't it? (Actually I find it more difficult
coping with B/W, negs or slides).
Best Regards,
Jens
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Re: (LONG) High Resolution Scanning

2002-03-27 Thread Mishka

Some good pointers on setting up photoshop (on Mac) are on 
http://www.tema.ru/p/h/o/t/o/s/h/o/p/index.html

The speed of HDD shouldn't really matter. Once I start swapping, I know
I am very dead. The difference between how fast one can read from RAM
and from HDD are a few orders of magnitude. If I change my interface
from IDE (ATA100) to SCSI you get a factor of 2 at best (guess). The
name of the game (for me at least) is to avoid using scratch disk at
any cost. I know I am in trouble when levels adjustments on a 120M scan
starts taking a few minutes. My workflow usually is (1) open the file
(2) adjust the levels (3) change to 8 bit (3) save (4) close file. I
can do 2 files in one photoshop session, after which I have to kill the
program and start it again. 

This of course have to do only with 120+ M files, 16 bit color/channel.
With 8 bit/ch color, 60+M, it works just fine. I suspect, Mac version
may have a better memory management -- I have win2K. If anyone has any
idea what I can do to improve memory performance on windows version of
PS, that would be greatly appreciated. 

 Interesting. I have a Mac G3 300 with 768M of memory, and I have no
 trouble working on 260 megabyte files. The files are scans of 6x7 negs
 and transparencies at 4000 dpi. I can keep an extensive history list and
 can work relatively quickly. I don't know how PCs differ from Macs, but
 on a Mac the amount of Ram you allocate to PhotoShop is important. I
 give it 400 megs. The scratch disk is also important. I use a half full
 60 Gig firewire drive. That makes the drive access operations fairly
 quick. I tend to think the scratch disk speed may be the most important
 element in any PhotoShop setup. 
 Paul
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Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!

2002-03-27 Thread Nitin Garg

On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 02:10:08PM -0500, Doug Brewer wrote:
 At 12:55 PM 3/27/02 -0500, Nitin wrote:
 
 small companies ?
 
 How small?

small enough perhaps for nikon/canon to not bother with them and they
have to make their own buys.

 
 
 I personally cannot count ratios or percentages this way. YMMV.
 
 You count the whole group. Then count the Pentax shooters. Take the number 
 of Pentax shooters and divide it by the number in the whole group. That 
 will give you the percentage of the whole group that shoots Pentax. You can 
 repeat with other brands to get other percentages.

This wont give the ratio of people shooting their gear by choice.

 
 Guess you're not on a math scholarship, huh?

And I hope you didnt major in communications.
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FW: (LONG) High Resolution Scanning

2002-03-27 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

Doug,

A few points:

Download and install Cachemanager from outertech, it will speed up your
system. If you like it, you can register it for $10.
http://www.outertech.com

If using Vuescan, make sure you switch off TIF compression. Although it
makes your files smaller, it also slows down the process.

Adding memory will increase the speed of scanning, I have noticed.

Frits Wüthrich
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RE: Paradigm Shift

2002-03-27 Thread Michael Nosal

 From the Foveon website:

The unique design of Foveon X3 image sensors enables them to handle both 
functions without compromise. To capture full-color images at video rates 
(typically 30 frames per second), simply reduce the resolution. And since 
the sizing of pixels can be done in an instant, a Foveon X3 image sensor 
can capture a high-resolution still photo in the midst of recording video. 

--Mike

At 01:13 PM 3/27/02 -0500, Mark Roberts wrote:

Then again, the Foveon ises CMOS technology and CCDs are faster (which is
why the Canon EOS-1D uses a CCD). Wonder which will be faster in real life.

--
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com
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Re: Re: After a delay...question

2002-03-27 Thread David Spaulding

 I'm starting to wonder how the Omni-bounce or the
 Lumiquest might help in my indoor horse work.I might
 have to try one of the systems to see if it will still
 supply ample light in an indoor arena,one fairly
 well lite,the other not so.Right now is shoot full tilt
 boogie at them.
 I just looked at both of the web sites and they both have
 possibilities.
 Anyone use them in the way i would??
 
 Dave

When I shoot shows at the local Fair, cattle show, horses, etc. I do exactly
what you do...full power on my 285 w/ 28 filer in for a little diffusion.
I'm afraid if I use a bounce or any more diffusion that it won't have the
reach. I hate not getting the shot. I should probably try it out sometime
though. Would make for better light. Good idea

Dave
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Photographer
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OT: What makes tonight different from all other nights...

2002-03-27 Thread Rfsindg

Happy holiday.  Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: 6x7 enabled

2002-03-27 Thread David A. Mann

Bill D. Casselberry wrote:

  I just remove the prism on mine and use the underlying screen
  as a waist-level finder, though there is a magnifying waist-
  level finder made for it.

 The WL finder is handy because not only does it have the magnifier 
(useful for focussing) but it also shades the screen from the sun.

 It also makes a good poor-mans almost-full-frame 6x7 loupe.

Cheers,


- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date)
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RE: Re: RE: After a delay...question

2002-03-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dave,

While you get a full illumination when shooting directly (i.e. parallel to the lens) 
you also get harsher shadows (although not as harsh as using in camera flash - a la 
Point and shoots).  

The Lumiquest I use is the Pocket Bouncer.  You don't get the diffuse light that you 
would from a soft box but at the same time, you don't get the harshness of direct 
flash.  It's sort of the best of both worlds IMHO. Compensate though with distance or 
aperture if you're shooting from a distance because any bouncer/box will reduce the 
range of the flash.  

For $40 CDN, you should be able to try out the Lumiquest, or for a bit cheaper, the 
Omni-bounce.

Cheers,
Dave

Original Message:
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From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
I'm starting to wonder how the Omni-bounce or the
Lumiquest might help in my indoor horse work.I might
have to try one of the systems to see if it will still
supply ample light in an indoor arena,one fairly
well lite,the other not so.Right now is shoot full tilt
boogie at them.
I just looked at both of the web sites and they both have
possibilities.
Anyone use them in the way i would??
/snip


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OT: help required from the list maintainer !

2002-03-27 Thread Cyril MARION

Hi !

This message addresses to the PDML maintainer. The frogs need some help from
their experienced Pentaxists cousins.

Our French speaking Pentax list (which runs on a majordomo server) suffers
of receiving all the messages in double;
if I remember correctly, the PDML had a similar problem last December. How
has it been solved ?

Excuse me but I do not remember the name of the PDML maintainer. If I had, I
should have sent the message directly to him, without annoying the whole
list...

Cheers,

Cyril.



(and for Franck Theriault - and the Pythons : a french-speaking Pentax wont
fart to any pig-dog's face...)
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Re: Bulk Film loading HELP !!!!!!

2002-03-27 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Hi Albano,
   I have a definite answer for you ;-)

   Although you can buy plastic or metal openable film crtridge, it's
   expensive and not ideal. What's best is to get to a nearby lab, and
   politely request a search trough their cartridge trash bin. Find
   enough cartridges of the ISO you need (so DX coding will work), and
   get only those who look ok (I mean they aren't dirty or whatever,
   check the film gate too, for sand, dirt,...). Get a bunch of them,
   they come FREE :) You see, these cartridges from lab developed
   films have the part of the film still sticking out, where they were
   cut by the lab. You can easily with little sticky tape attach the
   film from the bulk loader, close the loader and wind away.

   I and all my college photographer friends (and just about everybody
   who saves on film, which can be really high cost with really low
   profits from it, even some of my pro friends) use this procedure. I throw
   the cartridges out then, as there is always enough of them in the
   pro lab I have my colour work developed. You could reuse them
   instead, whatever.

   I mark the cartridges with a sticker to remind me they are NOT C41
   and to develop them myself (BW).

   Also, I choose cartridges of films who are more likely to be used
   in the studio, like Portra, than some Kodag Gold or some other
   snapshooter's film which might have been to hell and back in the
   wallet all dirty.

   Check with some movie supplier companies you can sometimes get nice
   BW emulsions from them in really long rolls (120m) for better
   price than if you bought the equivalent 4x30.5m from a photo
   supplier.

   HTH
   Frantisek

   P.S.: it's sad what happened in your country. I guess it comes with
   letting the IMF run things. I hope and wish you things will get better!
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Re: (LONG) High Resolution Scanning

2002-03-27 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

DF I capture the images into PhotoShop using the Import menu item on the
DF File menu, and selecting the Canon scanner.  This invokes the
DF FilmGetFS program provided with the scanner.  As far as I can tell,
DF there's no way to use FilmGetFS without some sort of graphics program
DF driving it (presumably via TWAIN).  If it could be run standalone and
DF scan to a disk file, the pain of memory use during batch scanning could
DF be greatly reduced.


Hi Doug,
   if the FGFS software can do save files, but has to be nevertheless
   run as a TWAIN application, you can get this freeware image
   viewer/manipulator Irfanview (www.irfanview.com) which does have
   the TWAIN interface, so you can run any twain app from it easily.
   The advantage over PS is that PS takes tens to hundreds of MB
   memory itself, depending on image loaded etc, while the IV is
   really LITTLE program, and much faster to load vs PS. And it can
   actually RESAMPLE BETTER THAN PHOTOSHOP! because PS uses quite
   stupid bilinear and bicubic resampling algorithms, while the irfan
   lets you choose from about 6 algorithms (speed vs quality), from
   which the Lanczos filter does best job - it's much better than the
   others at keeping image detail and sharp edges. Although, you don't
   need sresampling with 4000ppi scanner :) like I do with my old
   digicam.

   If the FGFS doesn't let you save files before importing, you can
   easily get them this way into irfanview and save them in any
   format you like. However, IV doens't support yet
   more-than-8bit-per-channel colour files (it opens them, but only as
   8bit/channel).

   Or, you may try Lasersoft's SilverFast, a really good scanning
   software, with functioning demo available at www.lasersoft.de

   It's a software I use, and it's really good - offers IT8
   calibration, really nice user interface (unlike Vuescan whose
   interface hoovers IMNSHO), and is fast and offers batch scanning
   and even multipass or singlepass multiscan to negate noise in dark
   slides. However, the price of it may or may not be substantial to
   you (I got mine bundled with a scanner). I suggest you try it out
   and then decide. It's a really pro soft, lots graphic studios use
   silverfast.

 HTH,
 Frantisek
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Re[3]: After a delay...question

2002-03-27 Thread Bruce Dayton

David,

There is always a use for them provided your flash has enough power.
Softening and spreading the light always improves the image from what
a strong, harsh flash will do.  You can look up how much light loss
there is - I think about 2 stops and then check with your current
flash to see if it can still light up the area.


Bruce Dayton



Wednesday, March 27, 2002, 1:02:15 PM, you wrote:

DB I'm starting to wonder how the Omni-bounce or the
DB Lumiquest might help in my indoor horse work.I might
DB have to try one of the systems to see if it will still
DB supply ample light in an indoor arena,one fairly
DB well lite,the other not so.Right now is shoot full tilt
DB boogie at them.
DB I just looked at both of the web sites and they both have
DB possibilities.
DB Anyone use them in the way i would??

DB Dave

DB  Begin Original Message 

DB From: Paris, Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DB Sent: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:36:35 -0600
DB To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DB Subject: RE: After a delay...question


DB Not a 544 but a 433D, a Metz 45CT4, an AF500FTZ, and a Canon 420EX, 
DB and a
DB Vivitar 285HV.  All with excellent results.  I used the Metz and the 
DB Vivitar
DB with Sto-Fen on a Hasselblad 500C, a completely mechanical, manual 
DB focus
DB medium format camera, as is the Mamiya. The results were 
DB terrific.  That was
DB my main wedding shooter rig.

DB Len
DB --- 




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Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!

2002-03-27 Thread Nitin Garg

On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:50:38PM -0500, Doug Brewer wrote:
 Nitin, I really don't know what you are arguing. When I wrote:
 
   ANYway... Should you happen to be watching or
   attending some sporting event and glance down into
   the pits or along the sidelines to see someone
   happily shooting away with Pentax equipment, you can
   be proud, because you know that photographer didn't
   have anyone to tell him what equipment to use, and
   had enough self-esteem to not worry about what the
   other photographers out there were using.
 
 You'll note I didn't mention anything about ratios and percentages, because 
 that's not what I was talking about. I said, in effect, that a Pentax 
 shooter =chooses= to shoot Pentax.
 
 You'll also note that I didn't address the number of shooters there with 
 other brands, because that's not what I was talking about. I really don't 
 care what percentage of Nikon/Canon/Olympus/Diana/BarbieCam shooters out 
 there are shooting what they choose to shoot, becaue I was talking about 
 Pentax.

And I also note that you are talking about *being proud* because that
photog is shooting using pentax by choice. The implication, IMO, you
seem to be making here is that nikon/canon shooters are not using their
equipment by choice, the pentax user is doing it by choice and that
(some X percent) people would pick pentax if the selection was made
independent of other's equipment. What is that X percent matter IMO for
the be-proud factor to play. So I say again:

1) The nikon/canon shooters might be using their equipment of choice.
2) The pentax user need not be using it by choice
3) How do you know what is the percentage of pentax users among the
by-choice shooters ?

 
 So have we now wasted enough bandwidth on your pissy little lack of reading 
 comprehension?

If you are worried about b-width, perhaps you should write in clearer
terms.



 
 
 At 03:13 PM 3/27/02 -0500, you wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 02:10:08PM -0500, Doug Brewer wrote:
   At 12:55 PM 3/27/02 -0500, Nitin wrote:
  
   small companies ?
  
   How small?
 
 small enough perhaps for nikon/canon to not bother with them and they
 have to make their own buys.
 
  
  
   I personally cannot count ratios or percentages this way. YMMV.
  
   You count the whole group. Then count the Pentax shooters. Take the number
   of Pentax shooters and divide it by the number in the whole group. That
   will give you the percentage of the whole group that shoots Pentax. You 
  can
   repeat with other brands to get other percentages.
 
 This wont give the ratio of people shooting their gear by choice.
 
  
   Guess you're not on a math scholarship, huh?
 
 And I hope you didnt major in communications.
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RE: Paradigm Shift

2002-03-27 Thread Rob Studdert

On 27 Mar 2002 at 13:13, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Interesting. This could change with the Foveon chip: one of its benefits
 is reduced computing/processing power since any camera that uses it doesn't need
 to do all the complicated mathematics of interpolation.
 
 Then again, the Foveon ises CMOS technology and CCDs are faster (which is
 why the Canon EOS-1D uses a CCD). Wonder which will be faster in real life.

From an image quality perspective the questions should be; which technology has 
the best dynamic range, lowest noise and highest sensitivity? It seems that all 
documents pertaining to these aspects of performance have to date been (I 
suspect wisely) sidestepped by the Foveon marketing dept. You could bet that 
they'd be telling us if it were better than existing technologies :-)

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Graywolf's Website again

2002-03-27 Thread T Rittenhouse

Some new stuff, if anybody is interested. Now you can see what that other
table panel on the frontpage was for, and there are some more photos in the
Speed graphic section which is somewhat revised.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto

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Re: Does F-stop change with a thread adapter?

2002-03-27 Thread Debra Wilborn

Sweet.

--- Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No.
 
 At 02:59 PM 3/26/2002 -0800, you wrote:
 Quick question:
 
 If I use a thread-mount to K-mount adapter, will I
 lose an f-stop like I would if I used a
 teleconverter?
 
 Thanks,
 Deb
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Re: RE: After a delay...question

2002-03-27 Thread T Rittenhouse

If the area is big enough for horses, I would guess all it would do is make
your flash too wimpy to use there.

Ciao,
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From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: RE: After a delay...question


 I'm starting to wonder how the Omni-bounce or the
 Lumiquest might help in my indoor horse work.I might
 have to try one of the systems to see if it will still
 supply ample light in an indoor arena,one fairly
 well lite,the other not so.Right now is shoot full tilt
 boogie at them.
 I just looked at both of the web sites and they both have
 possibilities.
 Anyone use them in the way i would??

 Dave

  Begin Original Message 

 From: Paris, Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:36:35 -0600
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: After a delay...question


 Not a 544 but a 433D, a Metz 45CT4, an AF500FTZ, and a Canon 420EX,
 and a
 Vivitar 285HV. All with excellent results. I used the Metz and the
 Vivitar
 with Sto-Fen on a Hasselblad 500C, a completely mechanical, manual
 focus
 medium format camera, as is the Mamiya. The results were
 terrific. That was
 my main wedding shooter rig.

 Len
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Re: Carry-on of big-glass

2002-03-27 Thread Peter Alling

Actually it's probably better.

At 12:17 PM 3/27/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Ryan,

I recently flew out of O'Hare.  On my return (through Wichita) I had
no problem having a rather large macro zoom in my backpack.  I allowed
this to go through the x-ray machine (without a body or film of
course).

As a side note, I was carrying a new monopod in its carry bag with
me.  I would think that if they wanted to stop anyone with a 'club' it
would have been me with that. . . . of course security in Wichita was
not exactly on the same 'par' as O'Hare . . .

Illinois Bill

Ryan K. Brooks wrote:
 
  Somewhat on topic, since it's pentax gear.
 
  I'm about to go on a trip that includes a day at the Venice Rookery- so 
 I just
  have to bring along my mint green A*400/2.8 :-).   Question is, I've flown
  since 9/11- but not with the 400- has anyone had problems carrying on big
  glass like this?  I'm leaving from O'Hare- and meet all the carry on
  requirements, but a bit concerned that they won't like this big, heavy, 
 club
  like item in my carry on.  I don't really trust checking it, even in it's
  case.  Pre 9/11 I always carried it in my backpack w/o any problems.
 
  Thoughts?
 
  -Ryan
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Re: Fuji NPS 160-Best ISO setting?

2002-03-27 Thread Peter Alling

Use the dot closest to ASA 200, (I'd have used ISO except it's a
Super Program).
The dot closest to 100 is 125.

At 08:53 PM 3/26/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Has anyone shot with this film?  I own a Super Program
 need to set the ISO manually.  There are two Dots
between 100  200.  I was going to set to the second
dot.  Does this sound right?  Or does anyone have a
preference for this film's characteristics?


Thanks for any help-I'm off to shoot tomorrow.
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Re: help required from the list maintainer !

2002-03-27 Thread T Rittenhouse

Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto



- Original Message -
From: Cyril MARION [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 4:59 PM
Subject: OT: help required from the list maintainer !


 Hi !

 This message addresses to the PDML maintainer. The frogs need some help
from
 their experienced Pentaxists cousins.

 Our French speaking Pentax list (which runs on a majordomo server) suffers
 of receiving all the messages in double;
 if I remember correctly, the PDML had a similar problem last December. How
 has it been solved ?

 Excuse me but I do not remember the name of the PDML maintainer. If I had,
I
 should have sent the message directly to him, without annoying the whole
 list...

 Cheers,

 Cyril.



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Re: RE: After a delay...question

2002-03-27 Thread Len Paris

With flash, distance is everything.  I can cover the viewing
angle of a 16mm fisheye lens very well with a Sto-Fen Omnibounce
but not for much distance.  It does nicely indoors in a house
but auditoriums are too big.  I haven't really tried to see
exactly how great a range can be covered using the AF500FTZ,
Sto-Fen, and 16mm fisheye but that would be a good project for a
weekend.

Len
---

- Original Message -
From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: RE: After a delay...question


I'm starting to wonder how the Omni-bounce or the
Lumiquest might help in my indoor horse work.I might
have to try one of the systems to see if it will still
supply ample light in an indoor arena,one fairly
well lite,the other not so.Right now is shoot full tilt
boogie at them.
I just looked at both of the web sites and they both have
possibilities.
Anyone use them in the way i would??

Dave
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Re: Number of focus points (was Re[2]: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!

2002-03-27 Thread Peter Alling

Luck?

At 04:48 AM 3/27/2002 -0800, you wrote:
It makes ya wonder, how did all those photographers get any keepers
before auto focus? VBG
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California

Bob Walkden wrote:


  Hi,
 
   easily impressed with such rubbish as '45 focus
   points' when a tenth of that number will work perfectly well (or, for
our
   manual focus aficionados, none!).
 
  in fact, a manual focus slr has an infinite number of focus points.
 
  ---
 
   Bob
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Re: Graywolf's Website again

2002-03-27 Thread Ken Archer

Boy does that bring back memories.

On Wednesday 27 March 2002 04:13 pm, T Rittenhouse wrote:
 Some new stuff, if anybody is interested. Now you can see what that
 other table panel on the frontpage was for, and there are some more
 photos in the Speed graphic section which is somewhat revised.

 Ciao,
 Graywolf
 http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
-- 
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Kirk plates

2002-03-27 Thread Ryan K. Brooks

I just picked up Kirk Enterprises QR plates for my MZ-S and 67.  All I can say
is wow!   The QR plates fit PERFECTLY... even on the oddly organic BG-10.

Fyi,

R
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RE: Carry-on of big-glass

2002-03-27 Thread William D. Sawyer

Ryan,

Last week I flew out of the Detroit, Phoenix and San Diego airports.  I carried a 
fairly large shoulder bag with two bodies and several lenses, including an FA 80-200 
f2.8.  This is not quite as large as your 400, but it's no midget either.  It only 
drew attention in Detroit, where I had to open the bag for the residue test.  
Elsewhere, all went through xray and no further questions.  I'm certain you'll 
experience much the same.

 -Original Message-
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ryan K. Brooks
 Sent: March 27, 2002 1:01 PM
  
 Somewhat on topic, since it's pentax gear.
 
 I'm about to go on a trip that includes a day at the Venice 
 Rookery- so I just
 have to bring along my mint green A*400/2.8 :-).   Question is, I've flown
 since 9/11- but not with the 400- has anyone had problems carrying on big
 glass like this?  I'm leaving from O'Hare- and meet all the carry on
 requirements, but a bit concerned that they won't like this big, 
 heavy, club
 like item in my carry on.  I don't really trust checking it, even in it's
 case.  Pre 9/11 I always carried it in my backpack w/o any problems.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 -Ryan
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67 Enabling

2002-03-27 Thread Bruce Dayton

Well, through some sales of 35 gear I have just purchased that 67 SMC
300/4 lens.  This is not the new ED version.  I am hoping that I can
live with the minimum focusing issue.  I should get it next week.  I'm
excited to try it out.  There have been several on the list who have
indicated that this is a nice lens.

That about depletes funds for 67 lenses and I could still use a
fisheye and/or the 45mm.  But, I'm about out of 35 gear that won't
hurt bad to give up.  The only remaining lens is an FA 20/2.8.  It is
in mint condition.  Anyone interested?


 Bruce Dayton
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Re[2]: Photos of migrating Cranes in Washington

2002-03-27 Thread Bruce Dayton

harald,

I must say that I was impressed with your shots of birds in flight.
For a first time user of that lens, you did a great job.  Would you
care to tell us your impressions of the lens and techniques that you
used?


Bruce Dayton



Wednesday, March 27, 2002, 4:00:51 PM, you wrote:

h Kathy,
h Thank you for the friendly comment. I'm glad you liked the story
h and photos. It was the first time I had a chance to try out my
h (new to me) Pentax FA 400mm 5.6. 
h I didn't think I'd get close enough for a 400mm, but I got lucky.
h Harald

h Kathy wrote:
h Thank you for the beautiful photos and story.  I truly enjoyed them.
h Kathy Leickly
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Re: Number of focus points (was Re[2]: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!

2002-03-27 Thread Bill Owens

And, how did they manage to get great sports photos without a 8 fps
motordrive?  Could it be experience and practice?

Bill  KG4LOV
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




 Luck?

 At 04:48 AM 3/27/2002 -0800, you wrote:
 It makes ya wonder, how did all those photographers get any keepers
 before auto focus? VBG
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California
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OT Pentax items up for grabs

2002-03-27 Thread Rob Studdert

Hi Team,

I have some auctions closing soon (30min+), there are a number of well priced 
no-reserve Pentax items that haven't received bids. If interested please check 
the link below, snipers welcomed :-)

Cheers,

Rob Studdert (eBay ID: distudio)

PO Box 701
HURSTVILLE BC NSW 1481
AUSTRALIA

Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours

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Please check my current eBay auctions:
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/ebay/
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Re: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

2002-03-27 Thread Bolo

[ Finally some replies from me on this thread, after being out of
  town and trying to catch up to life, work, and the PDML. ]

 [ Oliver Raymond wrote ... ]

 I've brought your comment about LS 'up top':
 
  [ my 7 step guess of Leaf Shutter use ]
 
 Not quite:
 1) Focus and meter (leaf shutter open)
 2)Set Camera to 1/8s
 3) Set LS to metered results (aperature, shutter speed)
 4) Cock the LS
 5) Fire the camera.
 
 Note that only 1,4,5 need to be repeated for a new shot
 The camera should be set for 1/8 for all LS work
 The LS will open after firing to allow re-composition.

So the LS is actuated by the camera body, NOT by a seperate release
on the LS lens?   If so that seems a nice setup, much nicer than
my guess of two shutter releases per photo.

 I'm going to answer more later :) Gotta go play with new(ish) ATL3 - 140lbs
 to carry to darkroom (groan!)

Looking forward to anything more you have to say.

An ATL3?  At first I thought that was a Jobo processor, but checking
their WWW pages, there isn't such a thing.  Is it an older processor,
or something else?

Thanks
Bolo -- Josef T. Burger
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Re[2]: Photos of migrating Cranes in Washington

2002-03-27 Thread harald_nancy

Bruce,
Thanks for your kind words.
Impressions of the Pentax FA* 400mm 5.6 lens:
Firstly, it's a beautiful lens. Feels solid with a metal body. 
I find it very user-friendly. Very smooth focusing 
on manual focus, and easy to switch back and forth between
manual and auto focus. 
It turned out to be very important for fine-tuning the focus
in this case. Sometimes the auto focus would get confused
pointing skyward. Nice compact size and not too heavy.
Very sharp picture quality. Sometime I'll have to buy a better
slide scanner. 
Technique I used for the birds in flight:
I used my Bogen tripod with Manfrotto ballhead. 
Mostly crouching on the ground. I set the tripod up low, 
so as not to frighten off the skittish birds. 
Adjusted the tension on the ballhead, so there would be some 
resistance to steady the lens, but for easy panning. 
Used a relatively large aperature, like F5.6 and F8, with 
a 81a warming filter to compensate for the grey and cloudy
weather. Film was Kodak Elite Chrome iso 200 slide.
Figured the birds were pretty much grey tone, so I let the 
camera choose the shutter speed on spot metering. 
No exposure compensation. Shutter speed was pretty fast.
It was just a matter of sitting quietly, and panning with 
the birds in flight. Sometimes I would lay on my back 
with the tripod on my stomach and the camera pointing 
straight up. You can do all this with this compact Pentax 400.
I always stay a half frame ahead of the birds, and then if there
is a nice composition, I'd take the shot. 
Meanwhile switching back and forth between manual and auto focus
for fine-tuning. Wildlife photography is a lot of fun.
Harald

 Bruce wrote:
harald,
I must say that I was impressed with your shots of birds in flight.
For a first time user of that lens, you did a great job.  Would you
care to tell us your impressions of the lens and techniques that you
used?
Bruce Dayton
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Re: Russian 645 Lenses

2002-03-27 Thread tom

On 27 Mar 2002 at 23:41, Stan Halpin wrote:

 One bid so far, only $9, how could you go wrong?

With 5 days to go, I suspect that'll rise a bit.

 
 I noticed that earlier. Since it is not auto aperture, and since it has such
 obvious distortion, I think I will stick with the Pentax 35/3.5 wide angle. But
 if you want the quasi fisheye look, hey $9 isn't bad.

Doesn't look quasi to me.

I've got the 35/3.5 too, but this is a true fisheye from what I've been able to tell. 
Obviously appealing since Pentax doesn't make one for the 645.

There was a Shutterbug review of Kiev cameras and lenses a while back which can be 
found here:

http://www.hartblei.com/

The guy seems to like it. He also seems to imply that maybe Kiev Cameras isn't the 
place to buy it...he seems to favor Kiev USA.

The part that surprises me is that the lens has a P6 mount, which I assume means 
Pentacon 6, and that there's a Pentacon to Pentax adapter. I'd never heard of such a 
thing...

tv
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Re: Russian 645 Lenses

2002-03-27 Thread Paul Jones

it wont go for $9 now the list knows about it :)


- Original Message -
From: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Russian 645 Lenses


 One bid so far, only $9, how could you go wrong?

 I noticed that earlier. Since it is not auto aperture, and since it has
such
 obvious distortion, I think I will stick with the Pentax 35/3.5 wide
angle.
 But if you want the quasi fisheye look, hey $9 isn't bad.

 Stan

  From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:47:47 -0500
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Russian 645 Lenses
 
  I guess I should have paid attention when you guys were talking about
Russian
  lenses...
 
  Bill forwarded this to me:
 
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1342170328
 
  Also, there's this:
 
  http://www.hartblei.com/
 
  Anyone have any experience with this stuff?
 
  tv
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Re: OT: help required from the list maintainer !

2002-03-27 Thread Doug Brewer

Oui! C'est moi! 

Try this:

http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/majordomo-faq.html#4.3 

and let me know if any of that applies. In the meantime I will scan through my 
correspondence about list glitches and see what I can find.

Doug
Le List Guy 


At 10:59 PM +01003/27/02, Cyril MARION  wrote, or at least typed:
Hi !

This message addresses to the PDML maintainer. The frogs need some help from
their experienced Pentaxists cousins.

Our French speaking Pentax list (which runs on a majordomo server) suffers
of receiving all the messages in double;
if I remember correctly, the PDML had a similar problem last December. How
has it been solved ?

Excuse me but I do not remember the name of the PDML maintainer. If I had, I
should have sent the message directly to him, without annoying the whole
list...

Cheers,

Cyril.



(and for Franck Theriault - and the Pythons : a french-speaking Pentax wont
fart to any pig-dog's face...)
-- 
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Ashwood Lake Photography
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Re: Carry-on of big-glass

2002-03-27 Thread Fred

 [snip]  so I just have to bring along my mint green A*400/2.8 :-).
 [snip] I'm leaving from O'Hare- and meet all the carry on
 requirements, but a bit concerned that they won't like this big,
 heavy, club like item in my carry on.  I don't really trust
 checking it, even in it's case.  [snip]

No guarantees that anything that we could say will automatically get
you and your lens on a plane, Ryan - g.  Besides, since you've got
one of the ~green~ big A* lenses, any security person who has seen
only ~white~ big A* lenses in print is gonna be suspicious - g.

Seriously, I would try to carry it on, but be willing to have it
hand inspected as well as x-rayed if necessary.  Maybe you should
make sure that the the aperture is already set wide open, so that a
security person could easily look through the lens from one end to
the other with the two caps off (to see that it's nothing but air
and beautiful SMC glass from one end to the other).

That's about all I can think of, except maybe to smile a lot.  ;-)

Fred
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Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!

2002-03-27 Thread Nitin Garg

On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 12:50:44AM -0500, Doug Brewer wrote:
 Okay, I'll play. 
 
 a.) Yes, that's likely true for a significant percentage of them. Read my post in 
answer to Bruce.

I presume you mean its true they are shooting using equipment of their
choice.

 
 b.) If you are the only accredited shooter using Pentax at the
 Olympics/Super Bowl, surrounded by Canon (The Official Camera of the
 Olympics/Super Bowl) and Nikon shooters, who are enjoying the
 loaners/repair/support services afforded them by their camera
 companies, I have to believe you have consciously chosen to use
 Pentax. Call it a hunch. 

ok, fine. Lets assume a pentax user is by choice while a nikon/canon
user is likely to be by choice.

 
 c.) Let's say there are 1000 photographers there, and that all of them
 have chosen to use a particular brand for this event, the
 Olympics/Super Bowl, and one of them is using Pentax. The percentage
 would then be 1/1000, or .001.

(the percentage would actually be .1 but thats besides the point)
Are we now presuming everyone is shooting by choice ? Whats the basis of
the pride factor then ? Why shouldnt Joe Nikon feel pride then when he
sees say 50% using nikon ?

 I was unaware until this exchange that pride had to have a
 mathematical justification. Perhaps you'd like to expand on that
 theory. 
 a.) What is the lowest ratio of Pentax shooters to the general population at which 
pride is allowed? 
 b.)The highest? 
 c.)Is three per cent reason for chest-swelling, or does it just call for a low 
whistle? 

Not absolute values but distribution. Plot a histogram with x-axis
representing brands (with pentax in center) and Y-axis representing
percentage of users of that brand among choice shooters. Without going
into (important) details of what the sample space is, if the pentax bar
clearly gives the finger to rest of the brands, you are onto
something. Else you are delusional in your pride as much as you said Joe
Avg was.
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Re: Russian 645 Lenses

2002-03-27 Thread Evan J Dong

Mike Fourman is the owner of Kiev Camera. He is the one to deal with.
KievUSA buys some of his stuff from MIke.


The Arsat 30mmF3.5 is a fantastic lens for the money. (Figure on the
actual cost of $239 to $265 ) that IS if you buy directly form him. What
Mike does, is to occasionally sell one as a lose leader to attract new
buyers.

I have an older version, Zodiak that was purchased about 6 - 7 years ago
before the Russian / Ukrainian optics became well known through the
Shutterbug articles.

I originally used it on my Mamiya 645 before going to 6 X 6 witht he
Exakta 66.

The wayt this is packages, is the lens comes in P-6 (Pentacon mount)
mount and a lens mount adapter ring is supplied for the Pentax 645. Other
adapter rings goes for  Mamiya 645, Contax 645, and various 35mm mounts.

This lens is sharp and contrasty. FOr under $300, this is a deal that
can't be beat!!

Evan Dong




On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 00:59:47 -0500 tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On 27 Mar 2002 at 23:41, Stan Halpin wrote:
 
  One bid so far, only $9, how could you go wrong?
 
 With 5 days to go, I suspect that'll rise a bit.
 
  
  I noticed that earlier. Since it is not auto aperture, and since 
 it has such
  obvious distortion, I think I will stick with the Pentax 35/3.5 
 wide angle. But
  if you want the quasi fisheye look, hey $9 isn't bad.
 
 Doesn't look quasi to me.
 
 I've got the 35/3.5 too, but this is a true fisheye from what I've 
 been able to tell. Obviously appealing since Pentax doesn't make one 
 for the 645.
 
 There was a Shutterbug review of Kiev cameras and lenses a while 
 back which can be found here:
 
 http://www.hartblei.com/
 
 The guy seems to like it. He also seems to imply that maybe Kiev 
 Cameras isn't the place to buy it...he seems to favor Kiev USA.
 
 The part that surprises me is that the lens has a P6 mount, which I 
 assume means Pentacon 6, and that there's a Pentacon to Pentax 
 adapter. I'd never heard of such a 
 thing...
 
 tv
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Re: Number of focus points (was Re[2]: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!

2002-03-27 Thread T Rittenhouse

Well, when you only get one shot, you try to get it right.

Ciao,
Graywolf
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- Original Message -
From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: Number of focus points (was Re[2]: Pentax WILL produce a
digital SLR!


 And, how did they manage to get great sports photos without a 8 fps
 motordrive?  Could it be experience and practice?

 Bill  KG4LOV
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




  Luck?
 
  At 04:48 AM 3/27/2002 -0800, you wrote:
  It makes ya wonder, how did all those photographers get any keepers
  before auto focus? VBG
  Steve Larson
  Redondo Beach, California
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