Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-17 Thread denstar
I think the bottom line is that home school and public school are not disparate things. The most successful public schools are those that have incorporated aspects of home schooling (or, perhaps something more akin to "community schooling", which is what the best home schooling seems to be). Hig

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-17 Thread Dana
this is really the bottom line. > It is a personal decision. The fact that I homeschool my children will > likely not impact any one on this list - positively or negatively. The > fact that Eric sends his kids to public school will likely not affect > any one on this list - positively or negative

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-17 Thread Scott Stroz
Luke, There are many reasons why people choose to homeschool...most I would agree with. some I do not. Based on my experience with home schoolers, you wife's experience would be a very rare situation. I actually think my wife and I error on the side of caution when it comes to 'grading' tests, s

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-17 Thread Dana
hmm. A couple of thoughtful questions to a thoughtful (I think) post. (At first I wanted to ask, Gruss, is that you? But Gruss did not suffer from random capital disease. If you are for real you don't understand the comment, and thas' ok. I am not making fun of you. I am also pretty sure Gruss di

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-17 Thread Eric Roberts
Give me a few days till I am done moving so I can jump in fully...I hate moving... Eric -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:17 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. Well you could try

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-17 Thread Dana
I can't resist throwing this in: In New Mexico, homeschooled children are exempt from standardized testing. The reason, I am told, is that their statistics were being grouped together as school="other" and for years on end "other" was way way ahead where the statistics were concerned. On Fri, A

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-17 Thread Dana
cough. You did say you agreed with it, did you not. Morgan said he meant it more as a comment about himself than about the educational strategy, and fair enough. He would know, right? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > And as I pointed out that I did not start out on the "s

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-17 Thread Dana
Well you could try proving otherwise, you know. You don't seem uneducated, actually, and I don't think the term's been applied to you. Intolerant now... that's up for grabs ;) This answer assumes the rhetorical question is not merely an excuse. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Eric Roberts wrot

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-17 Thread Luke Kilpatrick
This discussion has been interesting, I am very much on the Fence about home schooling, I can see the good points and the bad. I am not talking completely out of my ass here as My Wife was Homeschooled from K-12, she never stepped foot in a classroom until she was 23. I am not going to quote s

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stroz
Apparently, I may have misinterpreted this comment by you: 'It's socializing...it's part of human nature Scott...' And for that I apologize. I have had bad experiences with a very small part of a lot of groups, such as african americans, puerto ricans, whites, religious folk, atheists, politici

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread denstar
When I was a young lad, my Mother would tell me "in the ""real world""... or: in ""real life""..." and other such stuff, and it always boggled me. When are you *not* in the Real World, so to speak? Education has always been something I've been, um, "interested" in. My mom is a public school teac

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Eric Roberts
age- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 4:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. I do not see it as me being dishonest. Yes, it is true you did not bring it up initially, but you hopped on the 'socializa

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stroz
lling me intolerant > and uneducated.  Nice try. At least my kids are taught honesty and honor. > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 3:00 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The hardest thing

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Eric Roberts
honor. Eric -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 3:00 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. What else is funny is I thought we were discussing it. You expressed an opinion, based on '

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Eric Roberts
t: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I don’t think Dana and Scott are interested in discussing this with people > that disagree with them.  They would rather act like pompous asses whose pet > idea can't be wrong

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Eric Roberts
thing (tm) and anyone who disagrees is automatically wrong or > intolerant or uneducated. > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:19 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homes

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stroz
t; From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:19 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. > > > I have no idea what you are talking about. My comment was fairly simple > "interesting numbers

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I don’t think Dana and Scott are interested in discussing this with people > that disagree with them.  They would rather act like pompous asses whose pet > idea can't be wrong since that might make them wrongand we can't let > that happ

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Dana
e who disagrees is automatically wrong or > intolerant or uneducated. > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:19 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Dana
Larry, I asked you what makes you think it's hard to find non-religious material. I have already suggested three off the top of my head, and a way to find more. I called bullshit and you won't back the statement up. You trying to make me make me give Sam cause for rejoicing by classifying you as s

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Eric Roberts
onopoly on the right thing (tm) and anyone who disagrees is automatically wrong or intolerant or uneducated. Eric -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:19 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschoolin

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Eric Roberts
-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. oo. I don't think I can even begin to answer this. The theory appears to be that by dropping her in a vat of shit she comes out stronger somehow? I repeat, this was one of the best schools in town. Bad choices? Well, gee, sti

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Eric Roberts
Now there is an intelligent response...been hanging out with the teabaggers? -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:20 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. protected environments? Like Sandia

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stewart
Shorin-Ryu, I believe it's one of the Okinawan forms of Karate On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Dana wrote: > > The discipline did her a lot of good. I am glad I got her to New > Orleans. She'd already been to the nationals and was going to pass > because one of her friend was going through some

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I have no idea what you are talking about. My comment was fairly simple "interesting numbers where did you get them? pull them from something that agrees with your own biases? " While "pull them from something that agrees with your own biases? " appears to be a bit over the top, it nowhere near j

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Dana
The discipline did her a lot of good. I am glad I got her to New Orleans. She'd already been to the nationals and was going to pass because one of her friend was going through some sort of drama but I told her that when you are eligible for the worlds in anything you go, cause that's an honor even

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stewart
I loved competing, I took 15 State Titles in sparring and breaking, and four National Medals under USATaekwondo and AAUTaekwondo. The lessons in being graceful in defeat, how to turn "competition Scott" on and offand just the sheer discipline of training for it are things that i'll have with me fo

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Dana
yep. All you have to do is meet the residency requirements where you get the final degree. Universities usually insist that you get at least 30 credits with them. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > That's really cool. Combine this with the Open University project and > y

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Dana
fair enough, but actually... the homeschool group was far more diverse. Her friends there included the daughter of a Unitarian minister, and another whose mother was a model and father was an apparently well-known graphic novelist. Still another was raised by a rather strict evangelist mother and

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Dana
Lara got quite a bit out of competition. I don't know if I ever told you that when she went to the worlds in new orleans she won one first place and I think three seconds... even if you allow for the fact that this was only girls at her age and rank, that's still pretty good. She had to beat four

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stroz
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > No...that was someone else actually...even though I do agree with it.  You > don’t learn how to interact with people in protected environments with > parents hawking over them 24/7. > You do not learn how to interact with people by being

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Dana
ya well. homeschool kids don't act like that. We had a similar experience in Florida. Lara (in kindergarden at the time) came home with the front of her dress torn down to her waist. She claimed a couple of kids, whom she named, beat her up. The school said oh no no we would have stopped that, not

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Dana
yeah sounds great, but the daily plan goes away eventually James did really well at a Montessori school that was organized like that. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > We had very similar issues with our first born in public school kindergarten. >  We tossed arou

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Dana
protected environments with > parents hawking over them 24/7. > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:13 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. > > > Yo

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Dana wrote: > > it's probably the most annoying FAQ ;) and considering the > socialization that kids in school *do* get of my daughter's close > friends one had an abortion and one went into rehab. Wow. And this was > a good school in a good neighborhood, mind

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Dana
I asked for yours because you don't seem to have one, and considering your next move that seems rather hypocritical. I have extensive experience with many homeschool groups, religious and not, in quite a few states -- Texas, Ohio, New Mexico, West Virginia, Michigan and Maryland off the top of my

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Dana
Are you saying that you think homeschooled kids don't? Surely not? > I also feel bad for kids who won't have my great memories of Boy Scouts, or > fishing on opening day, and whose father never coached them in baseball, and > whose mother didn't love to take random drives around the countryside,

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Dana
ed > to make better choices so that she didn't get into that situation to begin > with. > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:13 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschool

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Judah McAuley
That's really cool. Combine this with the Open University project and you start to have a pretty decent set of materials, kindergarten through a bachelors degree. Judah On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Dana wrote: > > http://www.oercommons.org/ > > though the materials are not specifically des

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Dana wrote: > > it's probably the most annoying FAQ ;) and considering the > socialization that kids in school *do* get of my daughter's close > friends one had an abortion and one went into rehab. Wow. And this was > a good school in a good neighborhood, min

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Dana
http://www.oercommons.org/ though the materials are not specifically designated "homeschool" On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I wonder if any of the homeschool materials are public domain/copyright > free. > > And if any are formatted for the iPad > > > ~~

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Dana
> >> >> My kids are more socially adept than most kids who go to public >> >> >> school.  We are part of a homeschool group that goes on class trips, >> >> >> does activities together. Unlike public school where they would spend >> >> >> all day with kids their s

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Dana
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I wonder if any of the homeschool materials are public domain/copyright > free. > > And if any are formatted for the iPad > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Eric Roberts
Stewart [mailto:webmas...@sstwebworks.com] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:54 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. I don't know how much I'd put into that.. The kids that I have seen start at 3 or 4 are just fine when they get older, probably a bi

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Eric Roberts
lol -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:webmas...@sstwebworks.com] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:50 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. When kids are young 98% of what they'll get out of any martial arts program is based o

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stewart
.@sstwebworks.com] > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:36 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. > > > Hat, I've seen kids start as young as three or four (girls usually as > they've established teh whole left side right side thing)

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stewart
elps them to > channel there energy a bit more productively and does calm them down > somewhat.  It definitely adds some discipline into the mix. > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Eric Roberts
...@sstwebworks.com] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:36 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. Hat, I've seen kids start as young as three or four (girls usually as they've established teh whole left side right side thing). If your son can reliably tell his righ

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Eric Roberts
Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. > My ex takes her sons to Karate...they are very HIGH energy kids(there are > days I think they are going to explode hehehe) and this helps them to > channel there energy a bit more productively and does calm them down > s

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stewart
Hat, I've seen kids start as young as three or four (girls usually as they've established teh whole left side right side thing). If your son can reliably tell his right from his left then he's ready.. it's better to start them as young as possible, this way the discipline takes hold alot easier th

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> My ex takes her sons to Karate...they are very HIGH energy kids(there are > days I think they are going to explode hehehe) and this helps them to > channel there energy a bit more productively and does calm them down > somewhat.  It definitely adds some discipline into the mix. Yeah, only thing

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Eric Roberts
them down somewhat. It definitely adds some discipline into the mix. Eric -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:37 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. >  WTF Taekwondo is f

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread G Money
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > > WTF Taekwondo is full contact at the competition level > > Sorry, but this just made me laugh. > > On a serious note, thanks for the input - my wife and I have been > looking at Taekwondo for our son as well. He's got a LOT of en

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stewart
Oh trust me I still laugh at it, and watch the Korean Grandmasters look at me like I'm crazy because they don't get it On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:37 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > >>  WTF Taekwondo is full contact at the competition level > > Sorry, but this just made me laugh. > > On a serious

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
>  WTF Taekwondo is full contact at the competition level Sorry, but this just made me laugh. On a serious note, thanks for the input - my wife and I have been looking at Taekwondo for our son as well. He's got a LOT of energy and is extremely impulsive... I know enough about the martial arts t

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stewart
Here's the speech that I usually give.. 1) if the school isn't willing to give a couple of free lessons... run 2) if the school will not let you speak to students or the other instructors..run 3) if the school will not let you observe classes...run 4) if the school doesn't have a recognizable na

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stroz
I guess that should read - 'any suggestions on identifying a good instructor' On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > We have, but at the time he did not seem too interested. That was a > couple of years ago, so it might be a good idea to revisit it. Any > suggestions on finding a

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stroz
We have, but at the time he did not seem too interested. That was a couple of years ago, so it might be a good idea to revisit it. Any suggestions on finding a good instructor? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > that does suck... > > Have you thought about putting him a ma

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stewart
that does suck... Have you thought about putting him a martial arts program? When I was teaching in NC I had a student who had a mild version of CP, it did wonders for his coordination and balance, not to mention his confidence. He was one of my best students. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Sc

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stroz
Believe it or not, but when we first started home school, we got a lot of inspiration from the Montessori 'methods'. As a matter of fact, that scene you described is similar to how our kids each begin their day - only there is only 2 of them. I have made no secret of the fact that my older son ha

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
We had very similar issues with our first born in public school kindergarten. We tossed around home schooling for a while. We decided we didn't the correct combination of time/patience to do it. So we went with a Montessori private school. Yesterday, I had to take a picture of the class fo

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Blah Blah Blah...what a dishonest fucktard. I guess since you have reverted to name calling that you ave nothing further to add to the discussion? -- Scott Stroz --- The DOM is retarded. http://xkcd.com/386/ ~~

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Eric Roberts
Blah Blah Blah...what a dishonest fucktard. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:45 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. Of all the people I have spoken to about home schooling

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Ras Tafari
d environments with >> parents hawking over them 24/7. >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:13 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Ras Tafari
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > Quick survey here. > > How many people had parents that ADDED homework to your list? not REALLY, but we definitely were challenged mentally daily > Who taught them subjects at the kitchen table, usually years before the > schools did? m

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Scott Stroz
y, April 15, 2010 8:13 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. > > > You brought up the myth about home school children and > 'socialization'. And that is what it is...a myth. Studies have shown > that home school children are no less

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Scott Stroz
at 10:49 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Morgain brought that up...not me...I think you owe me an apology Scott. > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: morgan l [mailto:greyk...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:21 PM > To: cf-community > S

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Scott Stroz
> -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:13 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. > > > You brought up the myth about home school children and > 'socialization&

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Eric Roberts
Morgain brought that up...not me...I think you owe me an apology Scott. Eric -Original Message- From: morgan l [mailto:greyk...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:21 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. Social interactions, groups of

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Eric Roberts
-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. You brought up the myth about home school children and 'socialization'. And that is what it is...a myth. Studies have shown that home school children are no less 'social' than their public school counter parts,

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread morgan l
school where they would spend > >> >> all day with kids their same age, my kids 'socialize' with children > of > >> >> all ages. When we go on a field trip or have a 'get together', there > >> >> are kids wh

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Scott Stroz
chooling and as I said, I know quite a few > people who do homeschool.  Just because I disagree doesn't make my opinion > uneducated. > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:54 PM > To: cf-community

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Eric Roberts
make my opinion uneducated. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:54 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. I am bitching at you for being close minded and absolute in your opinion. You will not

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I simply asked for the source so I could judge for myself. If you have the cite I'd simply like to see it otherwise for all I know its from some dim fantasy world. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled however to your own facts. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Dana

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Scott Stroz
gt; homeschooling.  And here I thought you were an intelligent person... > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:14 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. &g

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Jerry Johnson
I wonder if any of the homeschool materials are public domain/copyright free. And if any are formatted for the iPad ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion maili

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Eric Roberts
Eric -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:14 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: You have no idea what you are talking about

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Erika L. Rich
Hey Timothy Burton is a genius! LOL! ;) s'ok. Didn't mean to jump down your throat. I still luv ya. :) **hugs** On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > In my experience, publicschool=good. privateschool=lifelong issues. > homeschool=timothy burton. > > > ~~

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Scott Stroz
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: You have no idea what you are talking about with homeschool. You are only repeating the stereotype. I feel sorry for your kids that you are so close minded, maybe public school will teach them to broaden their horizons a little bit more than

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Jerry Johnson
Well, you QUOTED me, and tripped out. And I couldn't quite see why. Since you are normally fairly even-keeled, I assumed I really stepped in it and tripped a landmine that I hadn't seen, and was missing something obvious that I said wrong. Rather than compounding that social flub, stopping until I

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Eric Roberts
o:elr...@ruwebby.com] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:41 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. Wasnt just you, and I'm amazed you think this whole diatribe was directed solely at you. You just happend to trigger it :P Pissed off? I'm just fecking amazed

RE: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Eric Roberts
t; > Sounds like real life...though some of those things sounds like common > things to kids...like thinking certain things are weird. > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:37 PM > To: cf-community > S

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Erika L. Rich
Wasnt just you, and I'm amazed you think this whole diatribe was directed solely at you. You just happend to trigger it :P Pissed off? I'm just fecking amazed at some of the opinions on here, that aren't based on actual experience. I thought as a whole, that this list was better than most groups

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Scott Stroz
t;> It's socializing...it's part of human nature Scott... >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:21 PM >>>> To: cf-community >>>> Subj

Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling.....

2010-04-15 Thread Dana
mmon > things to kids...like thinking certain things are weird. > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:37 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. > > > Ha, public

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2010-04-15 Thread Scott Stroz
her', there >> >> are kids who are as young as 7 and as old as 17 - nd my kids can carry >> >> on a conversation with each and every one of them , and their parents. >> >> >> >> My kids have learned to 'socialize' with people of all ages

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2010-04-15 Thread Dana
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Eric Roberts >> wrote: >>> >>> It's socializing...it's part of human nature Scott... >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, Apr

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2010-04-15 Thread morgan l
; > >> The 'socialization' thing (or lack thereof) with home schooling is a > >> myth, usually propagated by ignorance. > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Eric Roberts > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > It's socializ

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2010-04-15 Thread Scott Stroz
I have to say, when we first had issues with my child's teacher, my wife mentioned homeschooling and my knee jerk reaction was 'No way in hell'. At that point I had only known like 3 people who were home schooled and they were all what I would consider 'weird'. But the more research I did, the mo

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2010-04-15 Thread Eric Roberts
exactly -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:39 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. You can have any prejudices or wierd ideas you like, but if you express them, people may well call you

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2010-04-15 Thread Eric Roberts
Sounds like real life...though some of those things sounds like common things to kids...like thinking certain things are weird. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:37 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about

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2010-04-15 Thread Scott Stroz
g (or lack thereof) with home schooling is a >> myth, usually propagated by ignorance. >> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Eric Roberts >> wrote: >> > >> > It's socializing...it's part of human nature Scott... >> > >> > -Origin

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2010-04-15 Thread Ian Skinner
On 4/15/2010 2:15 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > That is exactly my point Ian. > > Eric > No, I'm afraid you missed the point. My point was that *I* could not home school. Don't have the time, don't have the aptitude. But I also *recognize* that I am a lucky parent. Through no effort in my p

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2010-04-15 Thread Dana
:15 PM, Eric Roberts >> wrote: >> > >> > It's socializing...it's part of human nature Scott... >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:21 PM &g

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2010-04-15 Thread Dana
yep, and they learn even more sometimes from the old guy up the street, if they have not learned that it's uncool to talk to him and find out that -- let's say -- he knows how to whittle, or where the best fishing is, or... On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 15,

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2010-04-15 Thread morgan l
it's part of human nature Scott... > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:21 PM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. > > > >

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2010-04-15 Thread Scott Stroz
human nature Scott... >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:21 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling. >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2

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2010-04-15 Thread Dana
thing (or lack thereof) with home schooling is a > myth, usually propagated by ignorance. > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Eric Roberts > wrote: >> >> It's socializing...it's part of human nature Scott... >> >> -----Original Message- >>

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2010-04-15 Thread Jerry Johnson
WOW. I seem to have really, really pissed you off. I guess I will stop posting on this topic, as if YOU cannot stay reasonable and rational to what I consider a fairly innocuous statement, there is not much hope in this group. I'm out on this one. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Erika L. Rich

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2010-04-15 Thread Dana
, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > It's socializing...it's part of human nature Scott... > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:21 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The

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