Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Dale wrote: > > I have to say, mobos and CPUs have come a long ways since my last build > about 10 or 11 years ago.  When the ASUS first booted and I went into > the BIOS thing, is it still called BIOS, it was very different.  I think > my current rig allows you to use the mouse.  It's slow tho. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Wols Lists wrote: > On 16/06/2024 09:40, Michael wrote: >> Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work.  I want to keep a eye on >> temps for a bit.  I think the boot media was reporting the wrong >> info. >> Even the ambient temp was to high for this cool room.  It showed >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 16/06/2024 09:40, Michael wrote: Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work. I want to keep a eye on temps for a bit. I think the boot media was reporting the wrong info. Even the ambient temp was to high for this cool room. It showed like 100F or something when my A/C is set to 68F or so.

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Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 12:55 AM Dale wrote: >> Besides, for the wattage >> the CPU uses, the cooler I have is waay overkill. I think my cooler >> is rated well above 200 watts. The CPU is around 100 watts, 105 I think >> or maybe 95. > So, I am just picking someplace

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > Dale - sorry to bother you. > > Mark No bother at all.  Could learn something.  FYI.  I read most every post on this list.  Unless it is something I know absolutely nothing about or don't use at all, I read the posts.  I just might learn something.  I might add, stress-ng

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 16 June 2024 14:35:34 BST Dale wrote: > >> I mentioned I found the correct drivers for the CPU and other temps >> sensors but needed to reboot. > What sensors are you using now? I just rely on what gkrellm finds; where it > shows more than one CPU or GPU temp I

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 12:55 AM Dale wrote: > > Besides, for the wattage > the CPU uses, the cooler I have is waay overkill. I think my cooler > is rated well above 200 watts. The CPU is around 100 watts, 105 I think > or maybe 95. So, I am just picking someplace a little random to reply

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 5:59 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 04:07:28PM -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: > > >Now, the fun part. I wrote you a little Python program which on > > my system is called Dales_Loop.py. This program has 3 > > parameters - a value to count to, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Sunday, 16 June 2024 14:35:34 BST Dale wrote: > I mentioned I found the correct drivers for the CPU and other temps > sensors but needed to reboot. What sensors are you using now? I just rely on what gkrellm finds; where it shows more than one CPU or GPU temp I choose the highest one. --

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Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 16 June 2024 09:40:57 BST you wrote: >> On Sunday, 16 June 2024 05:55:45 BST Dale wrote: >>> William Kenworthy wrote: On 16/6/24 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: > > >> I still don't understand the efi thing. I'm booted up tho. I'm > happy. > >>

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Am Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 04:07:28PM -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: >Now, the fun part. I wrote you a little Python program which on > my system is called Dales_Loop.py. This program has 3 > parameters - a value to count to, the number of cores to be used, > and a timeout value to stop the program.

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Sunday, 16 June 2024 09:40:57 BST you wrote: > On Sunday, 16 June 2024 05:55:45 BST Dale wrote: > > William Kenworthy wrote: > > > On 16/6/24 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > I still don't understand the efi thing. I'm booted up tho. I'm > > >> > > >> happy. > > >> > > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Sunday, 16 June 2024 05:55:45 BST Dale wrote: > William Kenworthy wrote: > > On 16/6/24 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> > >> > >> > I still don't understand the efi thing. I'm booted up tho. I'm > >> > >> happy. > >> > >> > Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work. I want to keep a eye

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William Kenworthy wrote: > > On 16/6/24 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> > I still don't understand the efi thing.  I'm booted up tho.  I'm >> happy. >> > Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work.  I want to keep a eye on >> > temps for a bit.  I think the boot media was reporting the wrong info.

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On 16/6/24 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: > I still don't understand the efi thing.  I'm booted up tho.  I'm happy. > Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work.  I want to keep a eye on > temps for a bit.  I think the boot media was reporting the wrong info. > Even the ambient temp was to high for

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

> I still don't understand the efi thing. I'm booted up tho. I'm happy. > Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work. I want to keep a eye on > temps for a bit. I think the boot media was reporting the wrong info. > Even the ambient temp was to high for this cool room. It showed like > 100F

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 12:01:26 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> b) Using a bootloader: >>> >>> Mount your ESP under the /efi mountpoint. GRUB et al, will install their >>> .efi image in the /efi/EFI/ directory. You can have your /boot as a >>> directory on your /

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Saturday, 15 June 2024 17:55:17 BST Michael wrote: --->8 Thanks, but I'll stick to what I know if you don't mind. -- Regards, Peter.

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On Saturday, 15 June 2024 16:28:29 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 13:01:33 BST Dale wrote: > > Could you share the boot screen again? > > New version attached... > > > I used lilo ages ago then switched to Grub. Grub is massive but it works > > well enough. > > ...as

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Saturday, 15 June 2024 12:01:26 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > b) Using a bootloader: > > > > Mount your ESP under the /efi mountpoint. GRUB et al, will install their > > .efi image in the /efi/EFI/ directory. You can have your /boot as a > > directory on your / partition, or on its

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 07:53:06 BST Dale wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> Here's the output of parted -l on my main NVMe disk in case it helps: >>> >>> Model: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 250GB (nvme) >>> Disk /dev/nvme1n1: 250GB >>> Sector size (logical/physical):

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Saturday, 15 June 2024 07:53:06 BST Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Here's the output of parted -l on my main NVMe disk in case it helps: > > > > Model: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 250GB (nvme) > > Disk /dev/nvme1n1: 250GB > > Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B > > Partition Table:

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 07:53:06 BST Dale wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:11:38 BST Dale wrote: My plan, given it is a 1TB, use maybe 300GBs of it. Leave the rest blank. Have the /boot, EFI directory, root and maybe put /var on a

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Saturday, 15 June 2024 07:53:06 BST Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:11:38 BST Dale wrote: > >> My plan, given it is a 1TB, use maybe 300GBs of it. Leave the rest > >> blank. Have the /boot, EFI directory, root and maybe put /var on a > >> separate partition.

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:11:38 BST Dale wrote: > >> My plan, given it is a 1TB, use maybe 300GBs of it. Leave the rest >> blank. Have the /boot, EFI directory, root and maybe put /var on a >> separate partition. I figure for the boot stuff, 3GBs would be plenty >> for

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Dale wrote: > Howdy, again, > > <<< SNIP >>> > > Dale > > :-)  :-)  > Update, number 1.  The CPU finally came in.  It was supposed to be here Monday, finally left the hub on Wednesday morning, went to the wrong post office.  This morning, it finally made it to the right post office and arrived in

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 05:13:46PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >>> Am Samstag, 8. Juni 2024, 19:46:05 MESZ schrieb Dale: >>> >> Sadly, the CPU I got is for processing only, no video support it says. > So you got an F model? I got the

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Am Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 05:13:46PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Samstag, 8. Juni 2024, 19:46:05 MESZ schrieb Dale: > > > Sadly, the CPU I got is for processing only, no video support it says. > >>> So you got an F model? > >> I got the X model. It's supposed to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 10/6/24 18:03, Dale wrote: ... Interesting.  I thought the four port card in the NAS box was newer, at least a little bit anyway.  I may dig around for a card with display port outputs and see what I can find.  Hopefully something not to old. I don't need much.  Biggest thing, drivers that

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Michael wrote: > On Monday, 10 June 2024 05:26:49 BST Dale wrote: > >> My main rig that I'm currently typing on has this: >> >> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GTX >> 650] >> >> It has so far served me well for my monitor and TV. I think the NVS >> above is

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Monday, 10 June 2024 05:26:49 BST Dale wrote: > My main rig that I'm currently typing on has this: > > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GTX > 650] > > It has so far served me well for my monitor and TV. I think the NVS > above is more powerful than the

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 6:13 PM Dale wrote: >> I think the G model has graphics, but gives up a little speed. Or as I >> put it above, a wiiile bit. LOL >> > I'll be honest - you should probably think about how important multi > monitors are as a priority - is this a

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 6:13 PM Dale wrote: > > I think the G model has graphics, but gives up a little speed. Or as I > put it above, a wiiile bit. LOL > I'll be honest - you should probably think about how important multi monitors are as a priority - is this a desktop or a server? Also,

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 9 June 2024 23:13:46 BST Dale wrote: > >> P. S. I ordered a two piece cooler for the m.2 stick. It's way >> overkill but it is so cute and costs about the same as much smaller >> versions. It has little heat pipes and fins. O_O >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Sunday, 9 June 2024 23:13:46 BST Dale wrote: > P. S. I ordered a two piece cooler for the m.2 stick. It's way > overkill but it is so cute and costs about the same as much smaller > versions. It has little heat pipes and fins. O_O > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/226160453032 This looks

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

I see Sent from Proton Mail Android Original Message On 6/9/24 17:41, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Samstag, 8. Juni 2024, 15:40:48 MESZ schrieb Meowie Gamer: > > > vim has a WHAT?! You gotta tell me how to use that. > > Digraphs are graphs (i.e. characters) that are

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Samstag, 8. Juni 2024, 19:46:05 MESZ schrieb Dale: > Sadly, the CPU I got is for processing only, no video support it says. >>> So you got an F model? >> I got the X model. It's supposed to be a wttle bit faster. o_O > Well as we have been mentioning

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Am Samstag, 8. Juni 2024, 15:40:48 MESZ schrieb Meowie Gamer: > vim has a WHAT?! You gotta tell me how to use that. Digraphs are graphs (i.e. characters) that are entered using two other characters. Basically it’s the same principle as the X11 compose key, but specific to vim. If you enter

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Am Samstag, 8. Juni 2024, 19:46:05 MESZ schrieb Dale: > >> Sadly, the CPU I got is for processing only, no video support it says. > > > > So you got an F model? > > I got the X model. It's supposed to be a wttle bit faster. o_O Well as we have been mentioning several times by now:

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Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 8 June 2024 23:41:58 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Saturday, 8 June 2024 18:46:05 BST Dale wrote: I got the little m.2 thing today. It's a lot smaller than I expected. A whole lot smaller. It's fairly tiny actually. They look bigger in

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On Saturday, 8 June 2024 23:41:58 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Saturday, 8 June 2024 18:46:05 BST Dale wrote: > >> I got the little m.2 thing today. It's a lot smaller than I expected. > >> A whole lot smaller. It's fairly tiny actually. They look bigger in > >> pictures or on video.

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Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 8 June 2024 18:46:05 BST Dale wrote: > >> I got the little m.2 thing today. It's a lot smaller than I expected. >> A whole lot smaller. It's fairly tiny actually. They look bigger in >> pictures or on video. This reminds me of the discussion on the number >> of

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On Saturday, 8 June 2024 18:46:05 BST Dale wrote: > I got the little m.2 thing today. It's a lot smaller than I expected. > A whole lot smaller. It's fairly tiny actually. They look bigger in > pictures or on video. This reminds me of the discussion on the number > of transistors on a chip.

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Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Samstag, 8. Juni 2024, 04:05:17 MESZ schrieb Dale: > > >>> DisplayPort supports daisy-chaining. So if you do get another monitor some >>> day, look for one that has this feature and you can drive two monitors >>> with >>> one port on the PC. >> That's something I

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vim has a WHAT?! You gotta tell me how to use that. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Saturday, June 8th, 2024 at 9:39 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Samstag, 8. Juni 2024, 04:05:17 MESZ schrieb Dale: > > > > DisplayPort supports daisy-chaining. So if you do get another monitor

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Am Samstag, 8. Juni 2024, 04:05:17 MESZ schrieb Dale: > > DisplayPort supports daisy-chaining. So if you do get another monitor some > > day, look for one that has this feature and you can drive two monitors > > with > > one port on the PC. > > That's something I didn't know. I wondered why

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 05:49:31AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: >>> I did some more digging. It seems that all the LSI SAS cards I found >>> need a PCIe x8 slot. The only slot available is the one intended for >>> video.

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Am Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 05:49:31AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: > > > > I did some more digging. It seems that all the LSI SAS cards I found > > need a PCIe x8 slot. The only slot available is the one intended for > > video. > > The board you linked

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Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 6 June 2024 04:54:41 BST Dale wrote: > >> I was digging around Ebay. Ran up on a used combo and then had a crazy >> idea. I found a ASUS B550-plus AC-HES mobo that is AM4. I took that >> idea and started building a combo with new parts. CPU, Ryzen 7 5800X >> and

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On Thursday, 6 June 2024 04:54:41 BST Dale wrote: > I was digging around Ebay. Ran up on a used combo and then had a crazy > idea. I found a ASUS B550-plus AC-HES mobo that is AM4. I took that > idea and started building a combo with new parts. CPU, Ryzen 7 5800X > and my little 4 port video

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 10:38 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > Howdy, again, > > > > Hi Dale, >    As part of a little AI project I'm working on I ran across a > relatively  > inexpensive ideo you might want to look into. The basic idea is to  > use a

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 10:38 PM Dale wrote: > > Howdy, again, > Hi Dale, As part of a little AI project I'm working on I ran across a relatively inexpensive ideo you might want to look into. The basic idea is to use a PXIx -> M.2 E Key card and on that card load an M2. E Key to SATA adapter.

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Wol wrote: > On 04/06/2024 23:11, Dale wrote: >> I started a thread maybe a decade ago about where computers were >> going next.  Even then, clock frequency was getting close to the >> limit.  At some point, a high frequency just can't go down a >> motherboard and all its traces.  It seems to

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Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:12 PM Dale > wrote: > > > Holy crap.  That is amazing.  As you say, just one out of all of > them and it is a bad chip, whether it is buggy or just plain dead.  I > was expecting more like close to or into the

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 04/06/2024 23:11, Dale wrote: I started a thread maybe a decade ago about where computers were going next.  Even then, clock frequency was getting close to the limit.  At some point, a high frequency just can't go down a motherboard and all its traces.  It seems to combat that problem, they

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:12 PM Dale wrote: > Holy crap. That is amazing. As you say, just one out of all of them and it is a bad chip, whether it is buggy or just plain dead. I was expecting more like close to or into the billions. I was not expecting that. Can you imagine if a chip had to

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Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:24 PM Mark Knecht > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:04 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > > Well, there is a lot to be said about moving what used to be > external to internal.  It

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:24 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:04 PM Dale wrote: > > > Well, there is a lot to be said about moving what used to be external to internal. It does result in faster moves for pretty much everything. Moving data from one side of a chip to

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:04 PM Dale wrote: > Well, there is a lot to be said about moving what used to be external to internal. It does result in faster moves for pretty much everything. Moving data from one side of a chip to another is faster than moving data out of a chip and then back in

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Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 1:27 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale > wrote: > > Is the new way taking out what used to be called a northbridge or >

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On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 1:27 PM Dale wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale wrote: Is the new way taking out what used to be called a northbridge or southbridge chip or both chips? Not exactly taking out but rather repartitioning. Much of what used to be in

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Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale > wrote: > > > > I'm thinking one good HBA will handle the current set of drives and give > > decent speed at that in the Fractal case when the new mobo ends up > > there.  The Fractal can handle 20 that I

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Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:34 PM Dale wrote: >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051832382 >> >> How many SATA drives that allow? It says 8 ports. I think each port is >> 4 drives. 8 x 4 = 32. Am I right? > It has two SAS ports, which support 8 SATA drives. Marketing... > > I

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On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale wrote: > > I'm thinking one good HBA will handle the current set of drives and give > decent speed at that in the Fractal case when the new mobo ends up > there. The Fractal can handle 20 that I can count easily. There's 4 in > the bottom, 11 in a tall stack

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:34 PM Dale wrote: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051832382 > > How many SATA drives that allow? It says 8 ports. I think each port is > 4 drives. 8 x 4 = 32. Am I right? It has two SAS ports, which support 8 SATA drives. Marketing... I can't vouch for

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Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 7:56 AM Dale wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: >>> The little SATA controllers I currently use tend to only need PCIe x1. That is slower but at least it works. >>> The LSI cards will work just as

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On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:03 AM Dale wrote: > > I wish I could get one that comes with cables > that go from the card to SATA drives as a set. That way I know that > part is right. I'm pretty sure there are only two standards - one for external, and one for internal. Maybe there are different

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 7:56 AM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: > > > >> The little SATA controllers I currently use tend to only need PCIe x1. > >> That is slower but at least it works. > > The LSI cards will work just as well in a 1x. That is,

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Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:19 AM Dale wrote: >> You ever seen one of these? >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/274651287952 >> >> Is that taking one of those fast USB ports and converting it to a PCIe >> x1 slot? Am I seeing that right? >> > No, it is taking a PCIe 1x slot, using

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: >> I did some more digging. It seems that all the LSI SAS cards I found >> need a PCIe x8 slot. The only slot available is the one intended for >> video. > The board you linked has 2 4x slots that are physically 16x, so the > card

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:19 AM Dale wrote: > > You ever seen one of these? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/274651287952 > > Is that taking one of those fast USB ports and converting it to a PCIe > x1 slot? Am I seeing that right? > No, it is taking a PCIe 1x slot, using a USB cable, and converting

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Rich Freeman wrote: Rich, You ever seen one of these?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/274651287952 Is that taking one of those fast USB ports and converting it to a PCIe x1 slot?  Am I seeing that right?  USB ports are going to wash dishes before long.  LOL Dale :-)  :-) 

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On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: > > I did some more digging. It seems that all the LSI SAS cards I found > need a PCIe x8 slot. The only slot available is the one intended for > video. The board you linked has 2 4x slots that are physically 16x, so the card should work fine in

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Dale wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 11:17 AM Dale wrote: >>> When you say HBA. Is this what you mean? >>> >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/125486868824 >>> >> Yes. Typically they have mini-SAS interfaces, and you can get a >> breakout cable that will attach one of those to

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Am Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 08:27:57AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > I thought of something on the m.2 thing.  I plan to put my OS on it.  I > usually use tmpfs and compile in memory anyway but do have some set to > use spinning rust. Once I get 128GB installed, I should be able to do > that with all

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Am Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 12:38:13AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > I'll also max the memory out too.  I'm > unclear on the max memory tho.  One place shows 128GB, hence two 32GB > sticks.  The out of stock Newegg one claims 256GB, which would be nice.  > I'm not sure what to think on memory.  Anyway.  If

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Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 11:17 AM Dale wrote: >> When you say HBA. Is this what you mean? >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/125486868824 >> > Yes. Typically they have mini-SAS interfaces, and you can get a > breakout cable that will attach one of those to 4x SATA ports. > >

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On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 11:17 AM Dale wrote: > > When you say HBA. Is this what you mean? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/125486868824 > Yes. Typically they have mini-SAS interfaces, and you can get a breakout cable that will attach one of those to 4x SATA ports. Some things to keep in mind when

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Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 7:06 AM Dale wrote: >> I still wish it had more PCIe slots. I'm considering switching to a SAS >> card and then with cables change that to SATA. I think I can get one >> card and have most if not all of the drives the Fractal case will hold >> hooked

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On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 7:06 AM Dale wrote: > > I still wish it had more PCIe slots. I'm considering switching to a SAS > card and then with cables change that to SATA. I think I can get one > card and have most if not all of the drives the Fractal case will hold > hooked to it. > ... >

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byte.size...@simplelogin.com wrote: > > On 03/06/2024 10:12, Dale wrote: >>  From this link: >> >> https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-5-7600x.html >> >> >> Graphics Capabilities >> >> Graphics Model  AMD Radeon™ Graphics >> Graphics Core Count 2 >>

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Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 5:12 AM Dale wrote: >> Graphics Capabilities >> >> Graphics Model AMD Radeon™ Graphics >> Graphics Core Count 2 >> Graphics Frequency 2200 MHz >> >> That said, I have a little 4 port graphics card I'd like to use anyway. > The CPU you picked indeed

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On 03/06/2024 10:12, Dale wrote: From this link: https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-5-7600x.html Graphics Capabilities Graphics Model  AMD Radeon™ Graphics Graphics Core Count 2 Graphics Frequency 2200 MHz Yes, the 7600X will have a built in

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On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 5:12 AM Dale wrote: > > Graphics Capabilities > > Graphics Model AMD Radeon™ Graphics > Graphics Core Count 2 > Graphics Frequency 2200 MHz > > That said, I have a little 4 port graphics card I'd like to use anyway. The CPU you picked indeed has integrated graphics. I

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Alan Grimes wrote: > > Dale wrote: >> The one I'm not sure about is the PCIe one which may break apart to fit >> different connectors.  I seem to recall that goes to a video card on >> systems with those expensive and power hungry video cards.  Since this >> mobo has built in video, is that the

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Dale wrote: The one I'm not sure about is the PCIe one which may break apart to fit different connectors.  I seem to recall that goes to a video card on systems with those expensive and power hungry video cards.  Since this mobo has built in video, is that the right thing? DUDE!!! You are

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Dale wrote: > Howdy, again, > > <<< SNIP >>> > > Thanks to all who help on this.  I'll be glad when this nightmare is > over.  I've never been this disappointed in picking parts to build a rig > before.  > > Dale > > :-)  :-)  > I thought of something.  I need a power supply.  I can use the the

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On 02/06/2024 14:27, Dale wrote: Should I put the portage work directory on a spinning rust drive to save wear and tear on the SSD or have they got to the point now that doesn't matter anymore?  I know all the SSD devices have improved a lot since the first ones came out. The stuff I've seen

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Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:11:38 BST Dale wrote: > >> My plan, given it is a 1TB, use maybe 300GBs of it. Leave the rest >> blank. Have the /boot, EFI directory, root and maybe put /var on a >> separate partition. I figure for the boot stuff, 3GBs would be plenty >> for

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On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:11:38 BST Dale wrote: > My plan, given it is a 1TB, use maybe 300GBs of it. Leave the rest > blank. Have the /boot, EFI directory, root and maybe put /var on a > separate partition. I figure for the boot stuff, 3GBs would be plenty > for all combined. Make them large

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Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Dale. > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 08:27:57 -0500, Dale wrote: > > [ ] > >> Got the manual.  It says 128GB.  That sounds more like what I was >> expecting anyway.  I kinda thought 256GB was a bit much.  That's why I >> picked two 32GB sticks.  128GB is four times

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On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 9:27 AM Dale wrote: > > I thought of something on the m.2 thing. I plan to put my OS on it. I > usually use tmpfs and compile in memory anyway but do have some set to > use spinning rust. Once I get 128GB installed, I should be able to do > that with all packages anyway

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Hello, Dale. On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 08:27:57 -0500, Dale wrote: [ ] > Got the manual.  It says 128GB.  That sounds more like what I was > expecting anyway.  I kinda thought 256GB was a bit much.  That's why I > picked two 32GB sticks.  128GB is four times what I have now so it > should be

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Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 2 June 2024 14:27:57 BST Dale wrote: > >> Got the manual. It says 128GB. That sounds more like what I was >> expecting anyway. I kinda thought 256GB was a bit much. > I bought my machine from Armari a few years ago; they supply high-performance > workstations

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On Sunday, 2 June 2024 14:27:57 BST Dale wrote: > Got the manual. It says 128GB. That sounds more like what I was > expecting anyway. I kinda thought 256GB was a bit much. I bought my machine from Armari a few years ago; they supply high-performance workstations to City finance and

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Wols Lists wrote: > On 02/06/2024 06:38, Dale wrote: >> My plan is the CPU above for now.  Later, I will upgrade to the Ryzen 9 >> 7900X to get even more speed.  I'll also max the memory out too.  I'm >> unclear on the max memory tho.  One place shows 128GB, hence two 32GB >> sticks. > > Go on the

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On 02/06/2024 06:38, Dale wrote: My plan is the CPU above for now.  Later, I will upgrade to the Ryzen 9 7900X to get even more speed.  I'll also max the memory out too.  I'm unclear on the max memory tho.  One place shows 128GB, hence two 32GB sticks. Go on the manufacturer's website, find

[gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Howdy, again, First, I'm not to thrilled with this mobo.  I'd still like to have more PCIe slots, even x1 ones would help.  It's the best I've found so far.  It might be able to do the job.  I hope anyway.  Naturally, this will have Gentoo on it.  Network and all needs to work with Linux.  Heck,