FDISK will totally remove all the data from the drive if there is any left.
I'm not sure if he is just trying to redo his drive here and make a better
plan for the future, or if he is still trying to find a way to recover the
data. Possibly a data recovery program could find it. However once we g
Please let that be a bad joke! Feed the dog or else!!!
> Strange that I found no reference to any of the other filters
> listed in the
> two "helpful" replies to my initial post on this subject - my dog
> told that
> these were cruel jokes played on me by some bad apples on PDML,
> but I stood
They would really be upset if after you wiped the card for them it wouldn't
work in their camera! Deleting just the images is usually ok, but of course
many digital cameras including mine will not work if you do not format the
card in the camera itself. For some reason I also wind up with garbage
Ok, you got me there. When they fit that into a camera at a price that is
not insanemaybe..lol
> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Loveday [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 12:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Prosumer vs. DSLR (was Re: two new digic
I ask you this, can you think of anything electronic made today, that comes
even close to what one sees with the human eye? I know I sure can't! Until
that happens I see little sense in chasing something that is a "less then".
I suspect a mirror or even a quality prism of some sort will continue
Canon and Nikon have the
> DSLR market
> wrapped up and are pulling away rapidly from all of the competition. they
> are meeting their marketing goals.
>
> Herb
http://www.reuters.com/financeNewsArticle.jhtml?type=businessNews&storyID=59
65070
According to this Canon is suffering some too,
Ugh...and if I'm reading it right, their market share dropped 100 yen, which
is their daily limit, or about 18 % just today.
Do you suppose all the companies will experience similar problems due to the
market becoming somewhat saturated already? They all must be having
problems selling since it i
>From discussions with a 10D user I learned that this is a common digital
problem. Part of the issue is that digital in some ways appears to not have
the exposure range that film has. The digicams should be the same, but I
haven't noted it very much in mine either. At any rate there is a hidden
Yea, I know, this has been beat to death, but
http://www.vividlight.com/articles/1513.htm
Warning...*istD owners shouldn't look...lol.
Dave
> at high cost, or low or unpredictable quality.
>
Good grief, I can get 2 day service on anything from B&H, who I would never
worry about in this regard. That's why we all order our equipment on the
internet because it's risky and costs more! lol 8) VBG
> How many will get sick of the film game? Having to make sure
> there are enough
> rolls of film in your kit ahead of time
>
> Making sure batteries are charged on a digi-cam is analogous to
> ensuring that
> you have films with you a spare meter battery.
I guess I would see film's comparis
Good grief, why did I ever bring up 3rd world! My apologies to the list.
It doesn't matter where it is. If the family can't afford to buy a digital,
but can afford to use a film camera occasionally it could be your neighbor
I'm talking about.
Dave
> -Original Message-
> From: Norm Baugh
You can choose to look at forced at home processing and optical printing as
a blessing or curse. The reality is you'll get better images. If you like
to machine gun through film using high speed film drives, well I doubt it's
for you. If you really think about each shot before squeezing it off,
Just about 5 years
Nope, I still like film better and the feel and performance of film
equipment better.
> Here is a bit of a poll: How many of the folks on this list who
> have been into
> photography as a serious hobby for 5-10 or more years, and for
> whom it still is
> a serious hobby have
Here on the Mass northern coast I find that sales of B&W film are as good as
ever and I can buy it locally at several retailers. The art community here
of course is very strong and almost all major colleges, community colleges,
and even high schools have a strong art program as well as photograph
Hi all
Just finished an outing with a good friend of mine who recently purchased a
Finepix S5000. It's his first digital experience and he thought he had the
world by the tail with it, although he has considerable experience with film
and a Super Program. We took a charter boat ride in hopes th
Not so far fetched actually. I didn't really get interested in photography
until the first digitals came out. I bought one and thought it was cool.
Then I happened to try a friends 35mm and realized this was much better. I
even bought another 4Mb digital after that, but 35mm was still better at
a sensor swap costs outside of the warranty period?
>
> -el gringo
>
> -Original Message-
> From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 9:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: More *ist D Hot Pixel Oddness
>
>
>
> -
> if it's not very easy to pick out, well, then it must not be very easy to
> pick out, so why worry??
>
>
>
I got excited about the hot pixel issue when it first came up, but when I
realized it was somewhat normal I settled down. If noticed it's really easy
to fix. My main concern would be n
> Mini labs are mass market machines. The pros who want the big files
> are doing their own scans.
>
> William Robb
>
>
Are the pros with large size files from high res scans limited to printing
from their own resources too? What are the minilabs limitations from
customer generated files? In ch
> -Original Message-
> From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 3:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View
> How long does it take you to scan an entire roll of film on your
> duoscan?
About 45 minutes probably for a
I would use a tripod collar if you have one as it was designed for it. The
bigger question in my mind is your reasoning about using it as a walking
around lens. The shutter speeds required for this lens handheld for most
people are going to be a minimum of 1/500 sec. That's really fast film
and/
That's Doug's right and choice not to say. Just as it is your choice
whether or not to subscribe to this list. I also think what you might be
missing here and what Doug was trying to tell you is, I can choose to send
you a virus Antonio, and just make it look like it came from this list. The
int
Shel
I've always enjoyed your contributions on this list. I for one will be
sorry to see you go. I truly hope after your vacation you reconsider and
return. I can tell you that you had a great deal to do with inspiring me to
do more black and white. You helped me see the potential that exists
It's expected that the new Minolta D7 will have this feature since the
existing film 7 already does change the numbers and data on the back as well
when you turn it to vertical. So they already have the technology in it
that knows the cameras orientation.
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim
Ha...lots of luck..if your serious don't fondle them between now and the
sale! Give each of them a goodbye kiss and put them in the box quick, or
you might have to send the money back!
> -Original Message-
> From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:05 P
Interesting2 of you that are digitally enabled choose to still use film
for the important have to get it right images. There is no doubt that film
still does have it's advantages. In our society where time is everything,
letting the labs do it has it's own good points vs. the general advertis
> And why would an srgb image be more useful in photoshop if what
> you want as
> an end result is a B&W image. I don't understand that comment at all.
> What filters would you be talking about?
>
> Shel
>
>
This all needs some more experimentation on my part. I'm going to scan some
color film
> I don't know what you mean when you say "My question about your procedure
> here Shell is it really color or B&W."
>
> Shel
>
>
Old B&W images had what was called sepia I believe and to imitate that of
course we need to use color. If you convert to grayscale, RGB is now gone.
If you desaturate
I suspect the communication will set off any flash in slave mode
prematurely. The 360FGZ also has a built in slave mode though. You could
use the non wireless flash on camera or with a cord to trigger the 360, but
it will be in manual mode only here. The 360 does have variable power
settings in
Where and what is the exact name of this leben list William?
-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 12:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Epson C80 Problems
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Larson"
Subject: Epson C80 P
Well getting the head out and cleaning it properly sounds like a great idea,
except on my epson 785 I've not been able to figure out how to get the heads
out yet for such an attempt. What I have done is use the highest grade of
Isopropyl alcohol I can find to limit the amount of residue this leave
Actually I don't think getting the system to run on the 98 drive would be
that hard, however it may well require a 98 disk. If you don't have that it
might be questionable. The files would probably be downloadable somewhere,
but you'd probably have to have a different computer available until you
Pentax is probably closer then Konica-Minolta, since they are actually in
the D-SLR market. Minolta just has a prototype with a bunch of engineers
with their fingers up their ***.
-Original Message-
From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:33 AM
To: [EMAI
I know the ZX-M manual describes this. It says that the camera will know
where the aerator ring is at in FA lens or newer. Older A lens that are not
autofocus will not show the aperture reading in the digital display. I'm
not sure that all Pentax autofocus cameras will not support this or what
Hi
I'm strongly still thinking about bailing out on one system or the other and
the service record for Minolta from other lists I'm on really seems to be
bad. I personally have only had one dealing with them and although
expensive, the results were satisfactory. However many people especially
wi
D]
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 7:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: enlarger for scanning?
You'd have focussing problems I think... it's too late to work out
exactly what they'd be though :-)
S
David Miers wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever tried using a flatbed designe
my replies and new mail have not been coming through for 2 days at least
I've only developed B&W film myself, so I don't know how similar the rules
are with C-41 process. But in black and white the agitation affects
contrast. Possibly your sharpness issue is actually a contrast one. I also
know that temperatures being off and over/under exposure to the chemicals
can
Hamrick software recommends scanning films that have an orange mask in color
mode. All others in B&W mode. The users manual for Vuescan gives a bit
more detail as to why this is so.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10
Don't you know trolling ebay is dangerous!!! to your wallet that is! Your
sure to see all kinds of things you just have to have...lol 8).
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Camera ba
That's exactly what I've been thinking William, but I'm not quite up enough
on the technical details of digital cameras to comment much. Wasn't it just
discussed how Nikon lenses are sharper for the most part then Pentax? What
about with the new photoshop CS or what ever it is that has the plugin
I don't know how this works exactly, but according to what I've read
scanners that have the hardware to support digital ICE have some other
options for cleanup in Vuescan supposedly using the same type of technology.
I've not been able to try this yet since none of my scanners have the
hardware sup
Don't forget the Advil Mark! Your back is going to hurt after lugging all
that equipment...lol.. 8).
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 3:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GFM coming together
Starting to get packed...
--
Rotties seem to have more pack drive than most of the other breeds,
and don't really do well on their own.
Thats why Rotties that spend too much time alone become so anti
social.
I agree they are known to get antisocial in an environment where they are
chained up and
I would agree 100% with the CLA ahead of time thought. Furthermore I note
no one has mentioned the Ricoh cameras which for the most part are available
quite reasonable, many are totally manual except for a light meter that
serves no necessary function. The best part is they take Pentax lenses! 8
Just because dogs don't like cats...or in my Rotty's case even other dogs,
has nothing to do with their disposition towards people. The only time my
Rotty would ever try to hurt you, is if you tried to hurt the baby first!
He just adores people in general, possibly because he truly has no idea tha
Win 2000 IE 6 and I'm having no problems with Shaun's site!
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 3:36 PM
To: Shaun Canning
Subject: Re: Website v3.0
Hi!
Shaun, your newest web page is quite heavy on scripting. Let's just
say
I found B & W to be very frustrating in college too, as I too am very color
oriented. But towards the end of the course it started to rub off on me or
something, because I started looking at images differently, even choosing B
& W as the preferred medium for some images. You have got to admit the
Minolta does a lot of yapping about their great autofocus, but I honestly
can't tell much difference between it and my Pentax autofocus. In fact many
times the Pentax performs better especially in dim light.
-Original Message-
From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday
I ordered the bumpers from Pentax for my PZ-1 and used double sided 3M tape
cut to a small sliver to install them. The idea of any liquid type glue in
a camera is scary to me! That was almost 2 years ago and they are fine. In
the case of my PZ-1 I ripped it trying to change the focus screen, but
The only stupid question is the one you don't ask they always say! First of
all most scanning software that is designed to scan negatives automatically
converts it to positive. The only exception is when you scan to a raw file
in a program such as Vuescan or actually the Minolta software will do
I managed to do a quick sample of the Minolta and Epson scans. If it makes
anyone feel better the film was exposed in a PZ-1p Pentax... :). Here is a
link to the crops. Dreamweaver's photo album function has a bad tendency to
sort the thumbnails how ever it wants to rather then leaving them in
Mine also accepts a decent sturdy padlock, not one of those
pissy little suitcase padlocks that a three year old could bite off.
I heard something about you shouldn't lock your luggage any more since it
may have to be opened for inspection???
Dave
---
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: D76
- Original Message -
From: "David Miers"
Subject: RE: D76
> According to a site that I recently subscribed to T-Max developer
and D76
> are actual
According to a site that I recently subscribed to T-Max developer and D76
are actually chemically the same even though from what I understand one is a
powder and the other is a liquid. I'm not at home on my home systems, so I
can't access the info right now, but will post a link tomorrow night if
Ok now I'm getting a bit confused. Could someone clarify a few points for
me please. I currently use the AF360FGZ on the PZ-1p and PZ-1 as well as
with some older cameras. I liked the fact that it is supposed to be
completely backward compatible with all Pentax cameras. I am aware that
this fla
I see no good reason that the digital cameras can't enter the race if having
prints is the only excuse. A DC converter to 110 does amazing things like
enable your printers to work off of your laptops...or maybe there is
110..never been there. At any rate hauling along a printer isn't so hard to
d
At college we have a film dryer closet. Just looks like a tall narrow metal
closet with timer and heat thermostat controls on top. Usually does it in
about 20 minutes. It does a good job and doesn't seem to get the negatives
dusty either. I imagine you could make one, but need to make sure the
Tanya, do yourself a favor and rename your folder. Too many clean up
programs might mistake this for a temp folder or file constituting a
possible disaster of the worst kind.
-Original Message-
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:36 PM
But if your talking about the sale I think you are, that sale was plainly
marked. Some people just can't read. To the seller's credit he cancelled
the sale to avoid hard feelings on any side. He could have legitimately
held those people to their bids IMHO.
-Original Message-
From: grayw
You used [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the moon exposure. And with the converter attached what
would the f stop equivalent be? Minus 2 stops right? We just had a
conundrum of how to expose the moon properly in class, and to my surprise it
was the sunny 16 rule which is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your exposure is
Here's my attempt for this image.
Dave
http://www.davesfotooptions.com/pdmlwow/index.htm
-Original Message-
From: Dr E D F Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 12:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: F: Here is my WOW offering
http://kotisivu.mtv3.fi/edfw/ori
I'm not entirely happy with this, but here is a quick effort at
http://www.davesfotooptions.com/pdmlwow/
-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 11:25 PM
To: PDML
Subject: WOW - 60th Anniversary Photo
This week is the 60th anniversa
Possibly repair in Colorado is easier to obtain on the American version?
-Original Message-
From: Joe Wilensky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 12:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: pz1p pricing
KEH is often a little high on the pricing, although it's usually
e are all smaller than original.
Kevin
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of David Miers
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Damaged Wedding Photo
Some of the results are awesome as I tried a bit the othe
Some of the results are awesome as I tried a bit the other day and got no
where close to what some of the guys did. I'm getting the impression though
that some of you had a better original file to work with then the original
one posted. Did you send a bigger version to the participants Kevin? If
B & W works much better here I think. The bus is less distracting in this
mode. You guys were right before about it needing to be there to tell the
story, but if it could be toned down some. Maybe lighten the picture a bit
to get better shadow detail and burn the bus. My focus is on what I can'
I have heard a lot of quibbling about mirror lockup being a timer element
only on this list as well as others over time. I agree that the real thing
would be better and I'm not exactly quite sure why they don't do that as I
don't see why it's so hard to do. However in reality when I consider this
I kept getting the feeling that the focus was off on the film scans.
Unfortunately the epson holder leaves something to be desired and the lack
of focus control can be a problem if the 3200 is at all like my 2400. I
read about some people testing the focus by shimming the holder as well as
putting
o you could never access them, but they
were still there.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: "David Miers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 1:19 AM
Subject: RE: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)
> I don't think you can conf
8:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)
i don't remember MS allowing the end user to configure what constituted
Level 1. a lot of angry users called up to ask what happened to their
attachments for several months.
Herb
- Original Message -----
Fro
Went back to win 2000 and am a happy camper for the most part. Runs faster
especially when editing images and scanning and is running flawlessly after
getting the initial bugs out.
-Original Message-
From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:28 AM
To: [EMA
How about winrar? How does it rate security wise?
-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Viruses and WinZip
This just in, if you have an older version of WinZip you may be
vulnerable to a
Whether or not it protects you or not I can't say for sure, but the
documentation plainly states, with a Outlook 2000 updated to current
security patches, that until you open the mail all the way scripts cannot
run. It also tells you when a email contains scripts ahead of time. From
what I can se
Hi All
It has been recently discussed about film reciprocity failure in my
photography class at college. I have personally never considered this into
my calculations of exposure times and simply accepted the speeds suggested
by my Pentax (PZ-1 & PZ-1p) light meters and had good luck. The safe zo
It would be interesting to see the same lens on a film camera with the same
shot. Hasn't it been discussed about the digital giving more trouble with
flare due to reflections off of the sensor?
Nice shot, I actually like most of the way the sun rays are working in this
photo and lens, the main di
type of discussion is wrong let me know and I'll cease and desist from
further posts about such matters. Possibly this is not the group for me.
Regards
David Miers
You missed a couple didn't you... :) there is always the digest version and
reading the posts online sorted already by subject. This list is plain text
only, thus it doesn't use much bandwidth. I'm on dialup and I don't have
any problems. Lots of folks unsubscribe temporarily when their going to
Herb
Photoshop does not come stock with any decent noise tools. Grain Surgery is
a plug-in that is used from within Photoshop to reduce grain. Used in
combination with the Polaroid dust & scratch removal plug-in you have a
pretty good clean up package although I still have less clone work to do o
t: Re: Grain Surgery for PS
>
>
> then i don't get the point of the reference to or the use of
> PSP 7 and grain in your original msg. PSP 7 is a lot worse
> than Photoshop at color management and that means it's not
> very useful for photographic work. it only color manage
f the reference to or the use of PSP 7 and grain
in your original msg. PSP 7 is a lot worse than Photoshop at color
management and that means it's not very useful for photographic work. it
only color manages to the monitor and not to the printer.
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: &
Possibly of interest to those scanning your film. I recently acquired a
copy of Grain Surgery for Photoshop. I have been primarily using PSP 7
instead of Photoshop because of grain issues while scanning. I"ve not
perfected my use of this yet, but preliminary results seem quite good. Much
be
I think I would agree with keeping the LX and the other bodies, at least
one. I would think if the need arose that you would want to use the LX,
although I've never actually owned one, they must be awesome for people to
put up with all the service they seem to require. That same need for
service
Not knowing who Juan is of course, but I wondered if that was him on the
bench because of the backpack he is holding. It looks sort of like it might
be a padded camera backpack type. I thought he looked really comfortable
with the idea of being photographed, maybe too comfortable. He's doing a
v
I thought the problem was by installing a split screen the autofocus no
longer worked correctly?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Split-image screens in AF cameras?
> So wha
Spike TV has been running a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Special all
afternoon here. I noted with interest the equipment being used, although
for the most part they did not focus on that and you had to catch a glimpse
here or there. I was surprised to here numerous mentions of the use of
film, run
Interesting that this topic should come up when it did. Last night I
purchased a Ricoh KR-5 Super II via ebay for my photography class at
college. For $60 including shipping, with a Pentax 50mm f:2 m type lens I
didn't think I could go too far wrong. The instructor does not insist on an
all manu
I received one of these lenses through Shel and thus far I'm fairly pleased
with it. Obviously it cannot compare with a prime, but overall it does a
nice job. It's very true that this focal length will just about meet all
your needs except when you need a longer focal length, which is rare for me
The Minolta Maxxum 7 isn't all that big of a camera actually. I assume the
M7D is about the same size as it's based on the M7. But at least the film
version was quite a bit heavier and larger then the *istD is. Bigger and
heavier is better as far as I'm concerned though.
Get your children babysitted and taken to an educational museum at the same
time, not to mention a lesson in observing photo technique.heh
heh.only $2/hr.
--
The only place I was told to give up my cameras was at the Corcoran
(private) gallery. They wouldn't let me
Creativity is a personal thing, and what is or isn't right will vary
depending who you talked to. However if you look at my original post on
this, I mention something about a "clear shot", referring to the window in
the way. However if Frank was on the ball, he would be prepared to take
another q
means you have intent
to photograph for sale. they get to decide on intent and you have to prove
you are not.
Herb
- Original Message -----
From: "David Miers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: photograph
Hey, who's side are you one here! LOL :)
-
Anyone loitering at the DZ is likely to be
at least informed of this interesting if illegal activity, if not part of
it, and if I were a cop, I'd nick 'em!
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||
At what point is it defined commercial? Just because your equipment looks
professional? You have to sell something or be proved to have intent to
sell something for it to be commercial in my mind.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2
Bizarre may a good term for the whole thing, if it even really happened.
IMHO anyone with any common sense wouldn't have admitted to any alliance or
relationship with the jumper, but rather just happened to be in the right
place at the right time. I thought the situation might have been enhanced
b
I bought my PZ-1p for $325USD on Ebay in mint/mint condition with original
box and manual over a year ago. It was a replacement Pentax had sent the
seller to a warranty issue and he never used it except once to verify that
it worked. From all appearances it seems to be as he said. This seller
ad
Just finished watching a bit on Real TV (Spike TV) about a guy who jumped
off of the St Louis arch with a parachute and lived to run away from the
police. His friend, the photographer was not so lucky and was arrested and
convicted for not having a permit. Supposedly he received a nifty fine an
I'm not sure if it was this group or a different one, but there was a post
about using a PDA with a Infrared beam to remotely release some cameras that
support this function. Normally you have to buy the control extra to do
this. If anyone has any knowledge about this subject I'd appreciate some
in
Just for fun, check the date in bios if you know how to get safely in and
out of it. Windows should be able to update it though. Bios is the
motherboard settings menu. Your screen may well display how to get into it
when you first boot, or it may be in owners manual, which may be
downloadable fo
100 matches
Mail list logo
