Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/07/2016 17:29, Éric Gillet wrote: So at least one user should reach out to the contributor before involving the DWG ? That would be great but that's not currently the case in my experience. The vast majority of my DWG interactions with other OSM users are "if you see something

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/07/2016 15:45, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: ... According to the Iowa DOT, it's official name is "Interstate Highway 235" but ... As Paul has already said, that sounds like a "ref" to me, not a "name". If something doesn't have a name, you don't need to create one for OSM... Cheers, Andy

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-08 Thread Andy Townsend
I've tended to use "name:signed=no" and/or "ref:signed=no" if there's a name or ref that is agreed to be "correct" but not useful for navigation. It's not used much: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/name%3Asigned but it does mean that you can exclude "non-useful names" from maps made

Re: [talk-au] Familiar with these places in WA?

2016-07-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/07/2016 11:28, Nev Wedding wrote: http://mmwatch.osmz.ru/?country=Australia=%E7%8E%8B%E7%90%B3%E9%9B%85 ... one more thing to add - not all of their edits are unhelpful: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34911431/history now has opening hours on it and didn't before. I am familiar

Re: [talk-au] Familiar with these places in WA?

2016-07-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/07/2016 11:28, Nev Wedding wrote: Anyone familiar with these places in WA to fix some of this mappers tags. shop=dry_cleaning appears to be a booming business to me. Also adding odd characters at end of names and parts of names in lower case

Re: [Talk-GB] Next Quarterly Project

2016-06-30 Thread Andy Townsend
On 30/06/2016 18:13, Brian Prangle wrote: ... some farms seem to be little more than caravan storage, some have transformed into equestrian centres, small industrial parks or become just residential ... Indeed, farms sounds like a good idea to me. Quite a few to the east of me seem to have

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/06/2016 14:40, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: This defect has already been reported to their GitHub repository: https://github.com/mapsme/omim/issues/2902 You've seen https://github.com/mapsme/omim/issues/3623 though? ("This bugtracker is not actively monitored, b...@maps.me could be used

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/06/2016 16:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2016-06-22 17:07 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer >: yet another issue and another type of issue: ... I suspect that this mailing list isn't the best way of logging bugs with

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/06/2016 10:12, joost schouppe wrote: The scope for growth of our community with Maps.me is phenomenal. Of course there is room for improvement. But it's never going to be easy to lower the barriers to participation without losing quality. I don't think that it's an explicitly MAPS.ME

Re: [OSM-talk] How to handle Maps.Me garbage?

2016-06-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/06/2016 14:13, Michael Reichert wrote: I decided not to write a changeset comment because it seems to me to be a waste of time to comment a Maps.Me user's changeset. (There less frequently respond to comments than iD users) Because of the language difference I suspect that the chance of

[Talk-GB] Removal of "sport" from recreation grounds, adding fixmes (was sport=soccer not sport=football.)

2016-06-13 Thread Andy Townsend
As a bit more background to this, see the changeset discussion comments on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39809705 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39812846 . I got a reply re "football vs soccer", but not about any of the other questions raised in there. I didn't revert

Re: [Talk-us] Tile cache issue?

2016-05-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/05/2016 23:39, Kevin Kenny wrote: On the main server with the default layer, I notice that http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/42.6437/-74.0033 has paths that abruptly disappear at a tile boundary. I suspect that for whatever reason (server move related perhaps?) it just got missed.

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project (Health): Pharmacies and Defibrillators

2016-05-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/05/2016 16:29, SK53 wrote: In my experience there are certain prescription which I can only get fulfilled by a hospital pharmacy (those written by a consultant). Agreed - and in the case of the one I'm familiar with it's not a stock issue but a bureacracy one - anything written

Re: [Talk-us] Restoring bus routes in Portland

2016-05-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/05/2016 13:20, Arun Ganesh wrote: Reverting the changesets are causing multiple conflicts and there does not seem to be a mechanism to just restore relation membership to a historical version. Any help and ideas appreciated [1] https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/185 If it

Re: [OSM-talk] Slipways connected to highways

2016-05-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/05/2016 17:30, Clifford Snow wrote: I've always added slipways to the last node of a service road. Now JOSM is complaining of leisure=slipway connected to a highway. It seem logical to me that the if you wanted to get routing to a boat launch that the node would be on the highway. How do

Re: [Talk-GB] New user renaming highway=cycleway with NCN references

2016-05-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/05/2016 23:13, David Woolley wrote: They started their life being purely for private profit, got nationalised, then handed to a charity, but never got made public rights of way. It depends where you are, I think. Certainly the canal towpath nearest to me (Cromford Canal) is mostly

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Incorrect 'suburb' in 'reverse nominatim' search

2016-04-25 Thread Andy Townsend
(top-posting because it probably does make sense to keep the whole of the previous email together at the end) I suspect that this might be partly related to this enhancement request: https://github.com/twain47/Nominatim/issues/231 The tl;dr of that is "nominatim works much better with areas

Re: [Talk-GB] Remove tag "priority" from railways

2016-04-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/04/2016 09:32, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi Roland If it's only one line affected it looks like it's the work of one user. Have you tried contacting him/her? Otherwise I have no objections to your proposed mechanical edit As I understand it, that one user was also working for Mentz. I'm

Re: [Talk-GB] Revert request: #38048227 and #38048737

2016-03-31 Thread Andy Townsend
On 31/03/2016 14:16, Ed Catmur wrote: Could someone with access to the revert scripts please rollback these changesets? Dee's just mentioned on IRC that she's reverted them - so all sorted now I think. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Caliparks re-tagging paths?

2016-03-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/03/2016 12:50, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 03/24/2016 11:26 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: They tagged them as "social_path", according to their blog entry [1] Thank you for the link. This is what I feared. highway=social_path is certainly unacceptable - a self-made tag that essentially deletes

Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect spelling of "cemetery"

2016-03-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/03/2016 11:26, Andy Townsend wrote: I added a bunch of notes for misspelt cemeteries For completeness, this list will include the notes that I added for this particular misspelling: http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/notes/search?q=cemetary=0 (just for info in case anyone wasn't

Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect spelling of "cemetery"

2016-03-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/03/2016 11:14, Stuart Reynolds wrote: Can I propose that someone who is more knowledgeable than me does a mechanical edit within the UK to correct “Cemetary” to “Cemetery”? I added a bunch of notes for misspelt cemeteries a while back (mainly trying to provide an "in" for new local

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

2016-03-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/03/2016 12:22, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: On 16-03-23 12:20:35, Andy Townsend, wrote 0.3K characters saying: On 23/03/2016 12:07, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: Again, that's not the goal if it. As said above, the role is NOT to change tags, but to remove redundancies. It doesn't matter

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

2016-03-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/03/2016 12:07, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: Again, that's not the goal if it. As said above, the role is NOT to change tags, but to remove redundancies. It doesn't matter. All of the screed that I wrote yesterday applies to "redundant data" too - we need to understand how it got there,

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

2016-03-22 Thread Andy Townsend
a bit of time understanding the human causes of the sorts of problems that you're aiming to detect, and helping those people understand the resulting problems in the data. Don't just say "you did X wrong" - explain to them politely how and offer to help them get it right next time. Be

Re: [OSM-talk] Bug in iD?

2016-03-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 17/03/2016 22:44, Adrian wrote: A user of the iD editor has added a new way along an existing way, with the two ways sharing the same nodes. In so doing, he has replaced all the nodes of the existing way with new nodes. The old nodes have been deleted. The new nodes are in exactly the same

Re: [Talk-us] mapRe: (Second attempt) Potential data source: Adirondack Park Freshwater Wetlands

2016-03-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/03/2016 19:00, Nathan Mills wrote: That said, without TIGER, OSM would have been useless (and still would be!) in large swaths of the US. (stating the bleeding obvious) there are divided opinions on this - when exactly this topic has come up previously people have said both "I only

Re: [OSM-talk] Please check the work of 00crashtest

2016-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/03/2016 15:39, Chethan H A wrote: Just to add a few more observations about the user 00crashtest editing behavior. Thanks. If you (or anyone else) thinks that there a might be problem with the edits that they're making right now*,

Re: [OSM-talk] Please check the work of 00crashtest

2016-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
. We also had to intervene on a couple of previous occasions (reverting/redacting data and contact about invalid edits by messages/changeset discussions). Best Regards, Andy Townsend (SomeoneElse) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Projects

2016-03-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/03/2016 20:50, Rob Nickerson wrote: My concern with rivers is that we don't have tools to measure progress - taginfo gives a count of nodes/ways/relations whereas we'd want total length of features per region (in miles/km). I'd agree that tracking progress with that one would be tricky.

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/03/2016 17:26, SK53 wrote: A quick query on IRC and Andy (SomeoneElse) also maps pubs this way True, but not with a zealous committment to it "absolutely being the best way". I'm open to persuasion. Part of the reason might be that I'm probably more likely to sit in the beer garden

[Talk-GB] Sad News

2016-03-11 Thread Andy Townsend
News reached the OSM Weekly team recently that Bogus Zaba*, occasional poster to this list and regular contributor to www.weeklyosm.eu, has passed away after a short illness. According to a note from his wife "the cause of OSM was very dear to his heart and he greatly enjoyed his virtual

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/03/2016 12:40, Andy Mabbett wrote: Tickets have also been raised (to save anyone else looking it up) https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2680 https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/11541 I don't see anything for P2. I haven't looked for other editors. Cheers, Andy

Re: [OSM-talk] natural=coastline vs natural=water fix and refresh tiles

2016-03-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/03/2016 10:55, Jérôme Seigneuret wrote: ... It is possible to refresh the base water layer if it is the unique solution? For info just in case you haven't seen it, this previous thread on the "dev" list explains why coastline updates stopped temporarily:

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2016 21:09, Mike Thompson wrote: ... appear to be of very poor quality, or out right vandalism. How should this be handled? In this particular case, the changeset comments suggest it's a remote HOT project

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2016 20:55, Mike Thompson wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37315914 Should I just manually delete, or would it be better for someone to do a revert. In a a case where someone has made a few valid edits and then something that obviously isn't, I'd personally start with

Re: [Talk-GB] New users and P2

2016-02-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2016 07:59, Marc Gemis wrote: How do you detect that stuff is gone ? I'm thinking of benches, waste-bins, telephones, etc. All those little things that are not or hardly visible on aerial imagery ? Do you constantly look at the screen of your smartphone or GPS to see whether there is

Re: [Talk-GB] New users and P2

2016-02-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/02/2016 17:04, Nick Whitelegg wrote: One thought I've had for a long time (and have probably mentioned in the past) is a walkers' editor (app rather than web-based). To be used something like: User goes for walk and records GPX trace, following this sort of pattern. Each time the

Re: [Talk-GB] Other Routes With Public Access

2016-02-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/02/2016 18:34, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: Routes marked by OS as "Other Route with Public Access" will most probably be routes that appear on the local Highway Authority's "List of Streets Maintainable at the Public Expense", but are not maintained to a standard for regular motor

Re: [Talk-GB] place=village/town/city

2016-02-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/02/2016 12:35, Gregory wrote: What did people think of my place:designation=* suggestion? Sounds good to me. No uses yet (obviously), but would allow a more sane "place" tagging for e.g. St David's, which isn't a really city in any normal sense. Cheers, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] place=village/town/city

2016-02-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/02/2016 17:10, Philip Barnes wrote: The original node, http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3216768/history http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=3216768 Thanks. So mostly city, but it did spend a couple of years as a town and a couple of shorter periods as village. Cheers, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] place=village/town/city

2016-02-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/02/2016 13:15, Colin Smale wrote: According to Wikipedia, ... ... I wouldn't assume that what wikipedia says has any particular relevance with respect to how something is mapped in OSM. The language used in the English wikipedia is a mix of American and English (and other) usages,

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM 290

2016-02-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/02/2016 00:08, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: The correct links are: English: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/6864 Spanish: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/6864 ... well nearly :) English: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/6864 Spanish: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/6864

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM 290

2016-02-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/02/2016 20:43, Michał Brzozowski wrote: Can you tell me what's up with this "This entry is available only in Spanish"? I think people won't care if it got delayed a day later or so. Also weird it's Spanish if you have to aggregate multiple mostly English sources anyway. What seems to

Re: [Talk-GB] Changeset #36985172 revert request - Deal area, Kent

2016-02-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/02/2016 16:50, Gregory Williams wrote: I did the original mapping of Deal, so I'll take a look later, when I can get to a PC. Brilliant - thanks! ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Changeset #36985172 revert request - Deal area, Kent

2016-02-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/02/2016 15:49, Colin Smale wrote: Actually, this user has done a lot more damage, in many other changesets over the past few weeks... Methinks a candidate for a block pending contact... Anyone with an interest in the Deal area is recommended to check the area...ent I'd suggest that

Re: [OSM-talk] Applicability of wiki tagging and votes: may, should or must

2016-01-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/01/2016 19:16, David Marchal wrote: Hello, there. On a GitHub issue (https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2027#issuecomment-174443685), I've been told that Wiki tagging votes are only advisory and that the community is only invited, neither required nor

Re: [OSM-talk] Wilingness to contribute to OpenStreet

2016-01-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/01/2016 11:17, K2K wrote: > Hi > I'm a second year student of Informatics Institute of Technology Sri Lanka, and I hereby express my willingness to contribute to any on-going developments of OpenStreet . > My fields of expertise are version controlling, Object Oriented programming,

Re: [Talk-GB] Admin Boundaries in Northern Ireland

2016-01-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/01/2016 17:19, Walter Nordmann wrote: Hi, any reason why there are only admin boundaries with admin_level=10 in Northern Ireland? No counties (AL6), no cities (AL8), no Suburbs(AL9) - nothing Ireland (the island) is normally handled as one entity in OSM, so tends to be covered by

Re: [OSM-co] No puedo cargar la capa de imagenes de Bing aerial Imagery

2016-01-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/01/2016 11:01, Luis Mejia wrote: Recientemente instalé JOSM en un equipo con el S.O. xubuntu. Cuando hago click (adjunto pantallazos) para cargar la capa de imagenes satelitales de bing para aparece el error: *input == null!* ver también

Re: [OSM-talk] Dealing with internet_access=wifi

2016-01-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/01/2016 14:18, Jakob Mühldorfer wrote: Hello, according to taginfo "internet_access=wifi" is used almost 80 times globally. Would you agree it is safe to automatically change all of these to "internet_access=wlan"? As I understand it, "wifi" means "one of the 802.11 variants" whereas

Re: [OSM-talk] Not sure what to think

2016-01-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/01/2016 11:00, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: El 7 ene 2016, a las 07:47, Hans De Kryger > escribió: So i just came across an edit of a user near me that listed the source of his edit as (Google Maps Street View) (1) This is

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2016 23:14, John Doe wrote: I tagged some abandoned building in my native city with abandoned:building=yes (as wiki) and the building name but now i can't search these ones with nominatim (no results) and none of these appears on mapnik. Is prefix abandoned before building=yes

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/01/2016 13:48, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: shop=vacant seems a bit of a hack, "vacant" is not a shop type. That's debateable, I'd say it was. "disused:shop=blah" (or "yes") would work too and is used, though not nearly as many as shop=vacant (9k vs 2k for

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Server manual build 15.10 troubleshooting

2016-01-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2016 10:45, Lester Caine wrote: MANY of the tools listed on the switch2osm site are no longer actively supported by their originators, I can't speak for everything on there, but I do know that I tested (and tweaked slightly) the "manual 14.04 instructions" about a month ago because

Re: [OSM-talk] switch2osm documentation upgrade

2016-01-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2016 15:51, Daniel Koć wrote: ... So my second question is: what do you think about upgrading part of the site (with installation instructions) the way I just proposed - or maybe some other way? (as is clear from Richard's message above) I'm not the maintainer of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Server on Ubuntu 15.10

2016-01-03 Thread Andy Townsend
The "switch2osm manual 14.04 lts" instructions should work ok (on 14.04, obviously). I ran through them on a clean server in December and fixed a couple of problems (missing "sudo"s, changed how to extract one of

[talk-au] Northern NSW again

2015-12-18 Thread Andy Townsend
Hi, Just for info, I've suggested that a relatively new mapper in Northern NSW might want to contact other mappers here in a comment on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35480438 (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/332351666 is clearly unjoined, but there may be other issues). It's a

Re: [talk-au] Inappropriate tagged areas

2015-12-17 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/12/2015 21:58, Warin wrote: On 17/12/2015 8:35 AM, Ben Kelley wrote: Use is not consistent. Situation normal. (If you harvest the natural trees, which one is it?) forestry. See the Forest page on the wiki, The http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Forest page describes 4

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing Starbucks Wikipedia Tags (Was Nominatim Weakness)

2015-12-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/12/2015 17:36, Clifford Snow wrote: ... Is there someone on the list that is familiar with China, Japan, Spain, Poland and Thailand that could fix those? For info I did comment (in English) on one of the changesets that added the tag in Japan:

Re: [Talk-GB] route relations type=road

2015-12-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/12/2015 11:35, Colin Smale wrote: Where two roads are multiplexed, it looks like one of the refs is the primary and is shown without brackets, and the other is shown within brackets, such as the A22 near Uckfield which multiplexes with the A26. It is shown as "Eastbourne A22 / Lewes

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

2015-11-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/11/2015 10:16, Ben Abelshausen wrote: You can go the tasking manager and see exactly what the goal of the mapping activity was, who is the admin that created the task and who validates, what mappers contributed and so on. Can you please explain where any of that is documented within

Re: [Talk-us] 0,0 Cleanup

2015-11-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/11/2015 06:42, Elliott Plack wrote: There's a lot of sandbox type data at 0°, 0° on OSM. Any special method to clean that up? I noticed it on the Mapbox Foursquare map, because creating lists defaults the map to 0,0 at z10. Any way we can polish that area up? There's not a huge

Re: [OSM-talk] Undiscussed (?) edits removing lesser-used highway=* tags

2015-11-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/11/2015 12:15, GerdP wrote: Now what is meant with oneway=yes;no (or no;yes) ? (at the risk of stating the obvious) that's likely to be a merged way, where a new user didn't spot a difference in a key that they weren't looking at before merging two ways. Just look at the changeset

Re: [OSM-talk] Unrepentant Vandal

2015-11-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/11/2015 10:36, Andrew Errington wrote: Hi all, Here is a link to a random point on a light rail system: http://osm.org/go/546Jvddtd--?m= Soon after it opened I travelled on it from end to end, collecting gps data and photos of all the station signs. There are two railway lines, one in

[Talk-co] Problematic edits in Cúcuta

2015-11-07 Thread Andy Townsend
to try and contact the other mappers to explain the problem - and if possible perhaps to contact the person at the school or college running the course as well? Best Regards, Andy Townsend (SomeoneElse) (en español mediante traducción automática) (disculpas por la respuesta fuera de hilo

Re: [OSM-talk] Undiscussed (?) edits removing lesser-used highway=* tags

2015-11-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/11/2015 20:42, Andrew Guertin wrote: An in-between example: on https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38089492/history, highway=stepping_stones was replaced with highway=path. While this helps consumers use the data, it loses information that should have been kept (perhaps with surface=*

Re: [Talk-GB] Secondary, tertiary and unclassified

2015-11-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/11/2015 12:54, James Tait wrote: ... I stumbled upon a changeset[1] that highlighted questions I already had about the tagging of roads in Mickleover. I'd tend to agree that Mickleover's "over-tertiarised" (and it's not the only place). It might be something to raise at the next East

[Talk-us] Maxweight in the USA

2015-11-02 Thread Andy Townsend
Just a heads up... There's a bit of a discussion going on at the moment as to whether it makes sense to store SI units (or actually a derivative - metric tons) in maxweight tags. I noticed a few changes (initially to other values in the UK), and commented on

Re: [OSM-talk] Improved new Icon set for Open Street map

2015-11-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/11/2015 16:53, Nasir Khan wrote: ... One thing i faced every time and asked from many that, is there a way to improve the icon set to make the map more attractive. (apologies if I'm stating the obvious here, but...) "OpenStreetMap" isn't just "the standard map that you see at

Re: [Talk-GB] Restoring a usable map service!

2015-10-31 Thread Andy Townsend
On 31/10/2015 02:09, Lester Caine wrote: OK ... what do we need to do to get a working UK map again? Simply put, if you're relying on a remote resource staying the same over time (perhaps you're selling services based on that resource and don't want the customer re-education cost of a future

[Talk-GB] Cerne Abbas Giant - how best to tag it?

2015-10-28 Thread Andy Townsend
Currently the Cerne Abbas Giant is suffering from an extreme bit of "tagging for the renderer" - for example http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/320313087 is apparently a "driveway". Is there a more usual way to tag the constituent parts of this sort of thing? A couple of the white horses are

Re: [Talk-GB] User dataone: "splitting into 2 way to tag restriction "

2015-10-22 Thread Andy Townsend
For info - I've added a comment to the discussion on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34799530 (a recent changeset by Zain Ahmad Hashmi) and also one to https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34777018 (dataOne). It'd certainly be interesting to see what correlation there is between

Re: [Talk-GB] PIE Mapping (Was: User dataone: "splitting into 2 way to tag restriction ")

2015-10-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/10/2015 00:08, Rob Nickerson wrote: >Phil (trigpoint) wrote: > >In http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34325458 comments Zain Ahmad >Hashmi mentions PIE mapping, which is is for commercial truck routing. > Hi all, PIE mapping were at the London OSM mobile themed dev hack weekend at

Re: [Talk-GB] name=Driveway & more "splitting into 2 way to tag restriction"

2015-10-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/10/2015 00:05, Dave F. wrote: Hi Two parts to this post. 1) A user https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mustafa_geo has made some country wide amendments where service roads are being named 'Driveway' They all appear to be related to parcel delivery stations. It seems very unlikely they

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging street areas controlled by rising bollard barriers

2015-10-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/10/2015 18:29, Michael Maggs wrote: How do I go about tagging rising bollard barriers that are used to control vehicular access to an area of streets? There have been some new rising bollards installed in Bath recently which block most motor vehicles between the hours of 10am and 6pm,

[Talk-us] Growing OSM (was OpenStreetMap US elections: October 12 townhall with candidates)

2015-10-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/10/2015 16:21, Steve Coast wrote: (snipped) What we’ve tried so far: * SOTM getting bigger every year * We tried paid ambassadors at CloudMade, running mapping parties with some success but the timeframe was very long to see people turn in to editors. * We've tried making the web editor

Re: [Talk-GB] User dataone: "splitting into 2 way to tag restriction "

2015-10-05 Thread Andy Townsend
(let's try that again with an actual message) I did have a bit of a conversation on some of the earliest of their changesets, but didn't really get a sense of why the roads were being split. You could argue that splitting a piece out "prior to surveying what the height restriction actually is"

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-10-01 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/10/2015 05:11, Warin wrote: -1 Here am I taking nodes and making them areas - thus removing the node. I think mkgmap needs some improvement to get relevant areas into POI ... if that is a problem. I'd put money on a mkgmap 'expert' tell us that it is not a mkgmap problem as it can be

[Talk-us] Sock-puppet accounts (was "More strangeness in Baltimore")

2015-09-28 Thread Andy Townsend
ap.org/wiki/Quality_assurance#WhoDidIt instances. Best Regards, Andy Townsend (SomeoneElse) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [OSM-talk] recent changes in rendering the map make it worse

2015-09-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/09/2015 11:53, joost schouppe wrote: ... I don't know how we could expect OSM-carto to reflect all our needs. Apart from being a tool for mappers (i.e. showing as much as possible), it also wants to be pretty and useful for non-mappers. Trying to make everyone happy might make everyone

[Talk-GB] "historical edits" in Bristol (was "Re: Birmingham New Street station re-opens")

2015-09-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/09/2015 22:36, Neil Matthews wrote: I want to flag up a couple of "historical edits" in Bristol: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34126960 http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34147883 it might be wise to check other edits from this user. Many thanks, Neil (ndm) P.S.

Re: [Talk-GB] useless survey?

2015-09-15 Thread Andy Townsend
First of all - thank you for "properly mapping" this bit of the country. Wales tends to be a bit of a poor relation when it comes to on-the-ground mapping (like some of the other bits of the island also far from population centres). For those who aren't familiar with it, often the mapping

[Talk-us] More strangeness in Baltimore

2015-09-14 Thread Andy Townsend
Can any Baltimore locals veryify or otherwise the changes in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34024769 ? It looks a similar style to the recent problematical ones there and at the very least that one seems to break some bus route relations. Cheers, Andy Townsend (SomeoneElse

Re: [Talk-us] User HomocideBaltimore adding fake / fictional / old data all over Baltimore

2015-09-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/09/2015 05:42, Richard Welty wrote: try contacting him through the OSM messaging system and ask him what his intent is. explain (politely) that OSM is for things that exist now, and there are alternate ways of handling historical data (e.g. OHM). Generally I'd suggest using changeset

Re: [Talk-GB] BBC4 tonight 9 pm - A Very British Map: the Ordnance Survey Story

2015-09-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/09/2015 04:16, mick wrote: On Wed, 09 Sep 2015 18:59:59 +0100 Philip Barnes wrote: Spotted this on the Rambler-Net list. In case you hadn't already spotted this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06b36q3 See also:

[OSM-talk] Railways yet again (was "THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject")

2015-09-08 Thread Andy Townsend
May I respectfully suggest that before anyone sends yet another reply to this thread that they ask "Has this point of view been put forward already?". Everyone is well aware that there is disagreement (and sometimes even disagreement over what to disagree over), but people are rarely won over

Re: [Talk-GB] Rail maxspeeds being converted

2015-09-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/09/15 09:18, Dave F. wrote: Hi A user has been converting the maxspeed tag of railway line from mph to kph: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/278060675/history#map=17/51.42363/-2.72120 It appears to be a straight conversion ie 100mph = 161. Which seems a bit silly. I'm sure the

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/08/2015 10:02, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: ... the OP hasn't given a list of guilty deletions so it's hard to judge how justified each deletion was. Back in https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2015-August/073669.html I had a look at what caused the current flurry of discussion.

Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?

2015-08-24 Thread Andy Townsend
I've done rural bits and pieces in Rutland on and off over the years* and would certainly be up for more mapping there. The tricky bit I suspect might be finding a mutually acceptable weekend before the clocks go

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/08/2015 02:16, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: According to the github discussion there is an overwhelming consensus [2] on moving from current rainbow colour scheme for roads to a red-yellow only scheme. I don't think you'll ever get an overwhelming consensus from such a large

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/08/2015 16:25, Ben Laenen wrote: Thing is that UK won't ever be happy with another colour scheme and the rest of the world won't ever be happy with a UK scheme. ... and then in the UK we can start arguing about and English style vs a Scottish one and then a Yorkshire one vs Surrey :)

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths and Footways

2015-08-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/08/2015 07:43, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 18 Aug 2015 03:56, Andy Townsend ajt1...@gmail.com mailto:ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: There's no interest to do this in the OSM standard style because it is abundantly clear that any new attempts at changes that make rural navigation possible

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths and Footways

2015-08-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/08/2015 09:48, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 18 August 2015 at 10:20, Andy Townsend ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: In the immediately previous message you said: So far there is little interest to do this on the OSM default render style which seems odd to me given how much fuss there has been

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths and Footways

2015-08-17 Thread Andy Townsend
On 17/08/2015 23:25, Rob Nickerson wrote: So far there is little interest to do this on the OSM default render style which seems odd to me given how much fuss there has been on this list to recent changes to the footway/path style (over the last year)! There's no interest to do this in the

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths and Footways

2015-08-17 Thread Andy Townsend
On 17/08/2015 21:43, Rob Nickerson wrote: ... In regards to designation=*, are we now the only country that makes a distinction between paths you have a legal right to walk on and any other path that might exist because people happen to walk over the land thus leaving a desire line path? Hi

[OSM-talk] Trees (was: OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release)

2015-08-15 Thread Andy Townsend
‎There's lots of discussion on Openstreetmap-Carto's github about this, which explains what's possible with the standard style right now, but if you're not subject to those restrictions you can certainly render leaf_type now - I've been doing it for my own use for some time (I wrote a diary

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/08/2015 06:09, Russ Nelson wrote: Okay, this has to stop. ... Here's what seems to have happened. Via P1 undelete you can see: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/11896835/history Someone's spotted that the TIGER way is iffy (via P1 it's possible to see that it clearly was), and they're

Re: [Talk-us] BurningMan 2015

2015-07-30 Thread Andy Townsend
‎(apologies if this has already been mentioned but) perhaps this is something that makes sense for OpenHistoricalMap? Ask a help question along the lines of how do I add time-dependant data to OHM, perhaps clarifying that the ways for previous years are in OSM but are deleted, and I'm sure

Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!

2015-07-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/07/2015 19:49, Lester Caine wrote: On 23/07/15 19:34, Andy Townsend wrote: It's actually farmland rather than farm, and therefore tagged correctly. If it was me I'd use a lightly colour for farmland so that farmyards (also tagged correctly in that area) stand out a bit more (obligatory

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