Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

Hi highly doubt that's even "defacing" a website. Google does it https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50977913/google-maps-shows-for-development-purposes-only Attribute or leave it. I too applause OSM FR attitude towards these license infringement. Seems, judging by the previous board denial to

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

That would be a good option for those that use third party providers of OSM. But to be honest, from my experience I highly doubt that even corporate members of OSMF, like Mapbox would do it, when their client Facebook (also corporate member of OSMF) after one year and half, still has maps with

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

Good luck with Mapbox trying to comply with odbl, OSMF corporate foundation and community expectations, to their their of service and the attribution you just quoted. They will try to close the ticket several times without solving the issues. wall hammering. The examples you gave were checked and

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

here's a interested case https://www.gislounge.com/gis-data-high-resolution-global-hydrography-dataset/amp/ are they allowed to share this on CC4? Shouldn't it only be ODbL? are they allowed to share only after a registration? anyone wanna try getting a copy of the derivated work as they need to

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

If you read this https://blog.mapbox.com/19-amazing-maps-from-2019-c2db8f2b6b9f you can see several clients of them that are not complying. Example https://parallel.co.uk/netherlands/#14.23/52.34361/4.85248/0/40 they credited us as OSM and no notice of what the license is or hyperlink. But still

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

true, but was mentioned here on March 2019 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-March/082147.html On 29/12/2019 03:43, Kathleen Lu wrote: Nuno I searched your attachment for the word "Snap" and it is nowhere to be found. On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 10:55 AM Nun

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

t; > https://docs.mapbox.com/help/how-mapbox-works/attribution/ > > > > Cheers - Phil > > > > *From:* Nuno Caldeira > *Sent:* Saturday, 28 December 2019 9:00 AM > *To:* · Michael Medina > *Cc:* OpenStreetMap talk mailing list > *Subject:* Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-tal

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

, Nuno Caldeira wrote: doesn't surprise me. check this https://docs.mapbox.com/mapbox-gl-js/example/attribution-position/ plenty of space for visible attribution, well mapbox attribution is not hidden under an "i". I have reported another client of theirs that I have reached

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of talk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Re: [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update >> (Nuno Caldeira) >> >> >> ---

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

Hi Mateusz, They don't. Here's all my email exchange with them from October 2018, yes _*2018*_. it's more than enough with evidence and time to be fixed. https://drive.google.com/file/d/110XubCe0kd2HNtbqXS7U_vr44xyieaSt/view?usp=sharing On 24/12/2019 07:08, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Have

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

I sent this situation to Mapbox 10 months ago. On Mon, 23 Dec 2019, 17:00 joost schouppe, wrote: > > As an xmas bonus, here's another Facebook company (via Mapbox), Snapchat >> that is using OSM without attribution requirements (funnily there's plenty >> of space for a reasonable and visible

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

*From:*Nuno Caldeira *Sent:* Monday, 23 December 2019 8:41 AM *To:* Martin Koppenhoefer *Cc:* Pierre Béland ; OSMF Talk ; OpenStreetMap talk mailing list *Subject:* Re: [Osmf-talk] [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update Sadly the board won't do anything. By the way came across

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

. Dec 2019, at 14:41, Nuno Caldeira wrote: @Phil Wyatt don't get me wrong, but adding something there is useless. i added Facebook there over one year ago. They don't have shame, no point to add companies there, when there's sites and companies that been there for years without real consequence

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

. Happy holidays. Às 09:34 de 20/12/2019, Rihards escreveu: On 20.12.19 09:42, Nuno Caldeira wrote: hi Pierre, I have tried that route multiple times in twitter, they will ignore. as they ignore emails (even if you CC le...@osmfoundation.org <mailto:le...@osmfoundation.org>), the l

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

you could invite OSM contributors on the discussion lists to make it > Viral by responding ! > > To show OSM diversity, I would be pleased to respond to the tweet. > > > *Bonne année, Pierre Béland, du Québec, Canada, fier de supporter > OpenStreetMap.* > > ;

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

/413132078795966/posts/2468472903261863/ On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, 18:59 Nuno Caldeira, wrote: > > > On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, 18:05 Simon Poole, wrote: > >> The fair use point just turned up to illustrate that there are limits on >> what we can expect copyright to do for us (aka

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] distance calculations

it's a derivated, therefore share alike. I'm glad they trusted OSM data. On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, 15:25 , wrote: > Dear IANALs, > > I'm sorry to ask an additional question. > > A while ago, I've listened to a talk about navigation of pupils from their > home to the school - it was used to decide

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

that's unfair, it is free, you don't have to pay for it. it just has a license, or else map companies would use our data On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, 02:19 , wrote: > > I didn't expected OpenStreetMap to be such non-free and permissive :-( > ___ legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

atabase protection law), a "derivative work" needs quite a bit of the original to qualify. The meaning of a "derivative work" was always much narrower than what a colloquial understanding of what "derived" might be, and the change in license did not change that. -Ka

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

these new Liberal interpretation of ODbL are funny. to bad it's not documented what we wanted when we changed license. seems to be full of lies https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License *"This means that “good guys” are stopped from using our data but the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

does contain derivate however,which means license applies On Thu, 12 Dec 2019, 19:46 , wrote: > > we are here to create more open data, not to feed proprietary data than > is lock under their TOS. > > I want to apologize for my misunderstanding: my final product does not > contain any

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

https://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/index.html the license is quite clear and 4.2 applies to the case you mention. any use of OSM data (over 100 nodes) combined with proprietary data results in more open data under ODbL. we are here to create more open data, not to feed proprietary data

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF candidate office hours, ask me anything

On Fri, 6 Dec 2019, 20:13 Michal Migurski, wrote: > I’ll start by suggesting that one of your assumptions is not accurate. > Weak license enforcement is bad for large organizations like my employer, > Facebook. We prefer clear rules and the legal team here is pleased to see > that the LWG is

Re: [OSM-talk] We got permission to continue tracing from Strava

well the most interesting part of that id editor part, the SLIDE tool is not working. so i don't see any advantages of using that. that tool has been broken for over one year Às 16:51 de 16/11/2019, Imre Samu escreveu: > Also the Strava fork of iD might still be working. See >

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

Well it's quite obvious to me that for adding or subtracting you need OSM data, so I have no doubts. it's like a cook recipe, if you don't have use it, you won't get the end result without it, adding or subtracting. On Fri, 15 Nov 2019, 11:41 Christoph Hormann, wrote: > > This realization (of

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, 18:05 Simon Poole, wrote: > The fair use point just turned up to illustrate that there are limits on > what we can expect copyright to do for us (aka the tweets from private > individuals showing a map excerpt that Nuno pointed to) and there is no > point in getting upset

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

Às 09:35 de 01/11/2019, Jeffrey Friedl escreveu: For ABC  I would not have chosen the term “require” from XYZ but they probably must make them aware that in the product they are selling there are third party rights (OpenStreetMap’s copyright) which come with certain obligations (ODbL). In my

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

Às 00:54 de 01/11/2019, Jeffrey Friedl escreveu: In any case, back to the original complaint about Strava, I still have not seen an example of OSM-derived data currently being presented on Strava without OSM attribution, so again, I'm confused as to what the original complaint is about.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

ntial" is undefined in the Directive). The majority of the world does not have database protections, so if any analogy is fair, it's a bit of the reverse, with the EU being a "database haven". On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 10:37 AM Nuno Caldeira mailto:nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com>>

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

Às 13:54 de 31/10/2019, Robert Kaiser escreveu: That "fair use" argument is actually pretty interesting and something that people often may not think about. IANAL, but I would guess, for example, that taking a screenshot of your app or website, which includes a map and also does include

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

On Thu, 31 Oct 2019, 17:29 Kathleen Lu, wrote: > I'm curious as to the reason for your doubts, Nuno. Are you aware of case > law to the contrary? > I'm just surprised we adopted a license that seems to be useless in USA, according to corporate interpretation of the license even if it's for

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

highly doubt that a derivated work from a database that has a notice (attribution) required, which was then chopped to be considered under fair use. Especially when this is repeated thousand of times. On Thu, 31 Oct 2019, 13:56 Robert Kaiser, wrote: > Simon Poole schrieb: > > It is however

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

in theory yes, I have reached mapbox several times of clients of theirs that are not complying with ODbL or to their terms of service. they either stop replying, doesn't get fixed (Strava example) or gets fix after sending 9 emails during two months. this last example was regarding Livestream, a

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

On Thu, 31 Oct 2019, 10:25 Jeffrey Friedl, wrote: > This thread started with "the hypocrocy continues", > but I can't figure out what, exactly, anyone is complaining about. > no attribution and a barely readable attribution by a corporate member of OSMF. that's what the hypocrocy is all about.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

do a search for Strava on social media images, on twitter as examples: https://twitter.com/MissJKirby/status/1189164486252515333?s=09 https://twitter.com/boorapong88/status/1188767309357142016?s=09 https://twitter.com/dai_walters/status/1188488659089141760?s=09 só either everyone crops the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

On Thu, 31 Oct 2019, 02:15 Jeffrey Friedl, wrote: > > And the hypocrisy goes on. "Strava launches gorgeous new outdoor maps" > https://blog.mapbox.com/strava-launches-gorgeous-new-outdoor-maps-977c74cf37f9 > > I'm not sure what you're reporting, but the maps all have "© Mapbox © > OpenStreetMap"

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

max/1395/0*llxj5jTIZqpXBsST.jpg might be a case of interpreting ODbL that you only need to attribute once or an exception for promo usage that disqualifies attribution being needed or probably mixes a lot of different data sources). Às 18:08 de 09/09/2019, Nuno Caldeira escreveu: These loopholes are alr

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook map frequency of updates?

o...@facebook.com good luck if they reply to you. I'm probably black listed On Tue, 15 Oct 2019, 19:15 Dave F via talk, wrote: > Hi > > An owner of an art centre in the UK has contacted me to ask why the 10 > month old edits to the centre's building haven't appeared in Facebook. > Looking

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ZIP codes from OSM in non-compatible licensed dataset

Extracting than 100 elements (non repeatable) from the databse accounts for substantial. Costs has nothing to do with the license. https://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/index.html Às 20:20 de 10/10/2019, Lars-Daniel Weber escreveu: First of all, thanks for your answer. I had a long

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] I added MAPS.ME to list of entities using OSM data illegally (without proper attribution)

well OSMF as the licensor can terminate the company rights under ODbL. Às 21:07 de 08/10/2019, Mateusz Konieczny escreveu: 8 Oct 2019, 20:36 by nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com: Up until they got contacted by OSMF to fix the attribution, nothing will happen and won't comply. They do not

Re: [OSM-talk] I added MAPS.ME to list of entities using OSM data illegally (without proper attribution)

you understood me wrong. I meant it was a good example of compliance. it's a fair and correct solution. don't understand why others (including OSMF corporate members) don't do the same. A terça, 8/10/2019, 20:37, Clifford Snow escreveu: > > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 11:33 AM Nuno

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] I added MAPS.ME to list of entities using OSM data illegally (without proper attribution)

about their choice of using HERE, I'm not aware of the reason. OSM road network in Portugal is quite good. A terça, 8/10/2019, 20:39, Nuno Caldeira escreveu: > you understood me wrong. I meant it was a good example of compliance. it's > a fair and correct solution. don't understand why

Re: [OSM-talk] I added MAPS.ME to list of entities using OSM data illegally (without proper attribution)

about their choice of using HERE, I'm not aware of the reason. OSM road network in Portugal is quite good. A terça, 8/10/2019, 20:39, Nuno Caldeira escreveu: > you understood me wrong. I meant it was a good example of compliance. it's > a fair and correct solution. don't understand why

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] I added MAPS.ME to list of entities using OSM data illegally (without proper attribution)

you understood me wrong. I meant it was a good example of compliance. it's a fair and correct solution. don't understand why others (including OSMF corporate members) don't do the same. A terça, 8/10/2019, 20:37, Clifford Snow escreveu: > > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 11:33 AM Nuno

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] I added MAPS.ME to list of entities using OSM data illegally (without proper attribution)

Sadly i have contacted them before. Not fixed. Also keep in mind that Moveit lists us  as "partners", which we obviously don't https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tranzmate Karta also does not https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kartatech.karta.gps and the funny

Re: [OSM-talk] I added MAPS.ME to list of entities using OSM data illegally (without proper attribution)

Sadly i have contacted them before. Not fixed. Also keep in mind that Moveit lists us  as "partners", which we obviously don't https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tranzmate Karta also does not https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kartatech.karta.gps and the funny

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/25/20883706/facebook-ar-glasses-prototypes-live-maps-announce-oc6 According to a video, it will produce “multi-layer representations of the world” using crowdsourced data, traditional maps, and footage captured through phones and augmented reality glasses

Re: [Talk-pt] Fixação da costa e das águas interiores nos Açores e na Madeira / Coastline and water fixes in the Azores and Madeira (Andrew Wiseman)

Hello Andrew, before helping Apple, i hope Apple complies with ODbL and attributes OpenStreetMap visibly on the footer of the map, which does not currently. That's not proper use of OSM data and. After that get's fixed, I'm glad to help. A terça, 17/09/2019, 12:02, escreveu: > Send Talk-pt

Re: [Talk-pt] Talk-pt Digest, Vol 116, Issue 9

Hello Andrew, before helping Apple, i hope Apple complies with ODbL and attributes OpenStreetMap visibly on the footer of the map, which does not currently. That's not proper use of OSM data and. After that get's fixed, I'm glad to help. A terça, 17/09/2019, 12:02, escreveu: > Send Talk-pt

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

Here's another example by Uber. They attribute the tiles visibly, not OSM... how can we measure if it's 50% OSM? we can't https://movement.uber.com/cities?lang=en-US test in multiple cities around the world and compare side by side with OSM. clearly more than 50%. Not to mention they mix all

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes/DWG_2018_11_15#Facebook_update > > > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 1:47 PM Nuno Caldeira > wrote: > >> I was not aware of that. Is that information public or been published >> somewhere? Also what does it do? notes for OpenStr

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

I was not aware of that. Is that information public or been published somewhere? Also what does it do? notes for OpenStreetMap or the so called "Facebook maps"? Às 19:33 de 09/09/2019, Kathleen Lu escreveu: On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:10 PM Nuno Caldeira mailto:nunocapelocalde...

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

Today i was check the maps on their website and noticed they have a report button, which i thought would create a note on OSM. Oh i was wrong, no note on OSM, wonder where that report will go to. Also quite funny that once you submit you get a message "your feedback help us to *_make Facebook

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

Here's another example of why we should not adopt the multiple sources attribution omission of our attribution. They list us as partners (?) https://www.wrld3d.com/3d-maps/custom-maps Use multiple sources and are not complying with ODbL by not showing the license. Seen multiple maps by their

Re: [OSM-talk] bus stops signs in the usa.

you are taling about the bus stop id. Às 21:03 de 02/09/2019, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk escreveu: if the number is on the sign, and there is no tag for route # is that not the name which will show on the map ? ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Usage Limitation

you can read about the tile usage here https://operations.osmfoundation.org/policies/tiles/ On the bttom of the page there's a couple of links to either payed suggestion or for you to set up your own tile server. Às 23:33 de 22/08/2019, Margarita Yanachkova escreveu: Hello, We're looking

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM as database for nature park hiking routes?

Just use the good practices of Inspire (you are in EU). For example, in Portugal, it's mandatory all public institutions to use geopackage https://inspire.ec.europa.eu/events/webinar-inspire-good-practices-%E2%80%93-alternative-encodings Either use geopackage or PostGIS. Stay away from

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

Às 22:04 de 13/08/2019, Kathleen Lu escreveu: > > And to Martin's point, which would you consider more important, the overlay of rare information, the gas stations, or the basemap? Or is the overlay only more important than the basemap if the overlay comes from OSM?

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

za-online-os-postos-onde-ainda-ha-combustivel https://www.dn.pt/pais/interior/mapa-online-mostra-que-bombas-ficam-sem-combustivel-veja-aqui-11189237.html https://4gnews.pt/waze-diz-te-quais-as-bombas-de-gasolina-onde-abastecer-nesta-greve-dos-motoristas/ On Sat, Aug 10,

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

Another lovely example from our OSMF Corporate Member. https://blog.mapbox.com/designing-the-treasure-map-style-4318390ad81c Also feel free to check every hyperlink on that page. If you find any attribution, let me know. Might be the case that it's not 50% OSM... Even on the guide that

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

Hi Martin, For another perspective, imagine someone making a world map with 85% OpenStreetMap data and 15% XY inc. data, if someone looks on a part of this map which is fed by these 15% XY data, you would not want to have it incorrectly attributed to OpenStreetMap (although we are generally

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

Oh right that sounds fair...not. Same applies to this https://janaodaparaabastecer.vost.pt/ theres Mapbox logo, there's VOST logo, then under  "i" crap load of sources...oh yeh that's OSM for sure, i know my edits well. clearly the 50% rule needs to be removed from the guidance as users are

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

So maybe it is an unauthorized use of Mapbox. Anyone can sign up free. You should report it to Mapbox. Nah, they stop replying me, they must have me on blacklist. Which goes a bit against their values "*Be respectful and humble.* To everyone — always." https://www.mapbox.com/about/values/

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

Your complaint about LiveStream is that their attribution is completely missing, not that it's behind a click. I agree that it's missing and that it should be somewhere. It's not clear at all where they are getting their data (the rendering looks like Leaflet). If they are looking into it,

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

. Plus, if anyone went to court trying to enforce something that OSMF recommended that was outside the licence, they would lose, and perhaps be forced by the court to pay attorney's fees. Maybe individual contributors might feel "scary" of the attorney fees, but probably not these

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

x, an OSMF corporate member b) LiveStream/Vimeo, client of Mapbox c) contributors/OSMF Às 18:56 de 09/08/2019, Kathleen Lu escreveu: Where in CC-BY-SA's license does it say that attribution must be on top of an image or that no interaction is allowed??? On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 10:17 AM Nuno Ca

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

So you are saying that when we switched from CC to ODbL, the bellow quote was not true? Both licenses are “By Attribution” and “Share Alike”. https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License#What_are_the_main_differences_between_the_old_and_the_new_license.3F

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

* What's the guidance on scenarios where software does not ship with OSM data, and does not display online maps, but e.g. allows downloading map data for offline use? Would it be acceptable to make the license information part of the download process, or is it still required that attribution is

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

Às 14:56 de 09/08/2019, Christoph Hormann escreveu: On Friday 09 August 2019, Richard Fairhurst wrote: It is a community guideline - a recommendation of the community on how to work with OSM data to comply with the license. No data user has to follow the guideline - the only binding document

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

About the 50% exception. i recently had to be unpleasant with Fatmap (their app and website https://fatmap.com/), after 2 months of zero action from their side. Source https://twitter.com/iamnunocaldeira/status/1136624467000602624 after my message on the 3rd of August, they contacted me via

Re: [OSM-talk] Just email direclty | Re: Sharing, Facebook, mapwithai_feedback

Às 17:56 de 06/08/2019, Kathleen Lu escreveu: **Just a fyi that Dristie is a woman. She was at SotM last year and quite nice to chat with. On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 1:22 AM stevea > wrote: SteveA > On Aug 5, 2019, at 11:55 PM, Rory McCann

Re: [OSM-talk] Sharing, Facebook, mapwithai_feedback

so we should change the way we communicate because employees of large companies dont like transparência? I have sent emails, they only replied once and stopped replying since October 9th 2018. is that a good example of communication with the community? A terça, 6/08/2019, 04:43, Michal Migurski

Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it nice to share?  | Re: Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaborati =?utf-8?q?on_with_OpenStreetMap

Good luck with trying to dialogue with them (can you get any of their emails?). I tried asking simple stuff like complying with license, OSM principles and OSMF guidelines. they stopped replying and keep being acting in a disrespectful way towards our community and OSMF objects. This behavior does

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

i agree with Kathleen here, we don't need their junk POIs. Actually we shouldn't have anything to do with companies that uses OSM the way they do without complying with the license and OSMF guidelines. This is still to be taken into consideration

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

Às 11:02 de 29/07/2019, Naveen Francis escreveu: On the rhetoric question:- We are using OSM maps life savings projects. https://keralarescue.in/map/ . (2018 Kerala floods maps) So both quantity and quality are equally important. I don't see the attribution on that map, or that website has

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

> Whoever reads this and does not have deeper insights into the workings of the OSMF must get into the impression that HOT is an official part of the OSMF / OpenStreetMap, i.e. OSM is collaborating with FB. Well that very well might be true about perception. But Facebook did not say that OSMF

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

i share the thoughts and concerns shared by Christoph. It's not surprisingly that most of these companies are "tied" or are client/service providers of each other, some are even Corporate members of OSMF. Who would bite the hand the feeds? Blaming third party media outlets, when Facebook

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

https://venturebeat.com/2019/07/23/facebook-speeds-up-mapping-data-validation-with-machine-learning-tools-map-with-ai-and-rapid/ "Facebook says that the mapping data validated by Map With AI — which will be publicly available — might help to inform disaster urban planning and development

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

to be honest I dont find anything about the collaboration. about they being a corporate member and to be caution to what we say, i this this sums it up when they dont: Foundation and community expectations We expect Corporate Members to conduct themselves as good citizens of the OpenStreetMap

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

so grateful of "The project is a collaboration with OpenStreetMap (OSM)". I might have missed the announcement, can anyone pinpoint me the link of such collaboration being announced? Hope they find some spare time in the future to add the attribution on the maps on their website and apps.

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

. On Tue., Jul. 23, 2019, 6:43 p.m. Nuno Caldeira, mailto:nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com>> wrote: Months go by nothing happens. here's another example from LiveStream, a Vimeo service.They have a map (example, press "i" https://livestream.com/accounts/23202872/events/7

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

Months go by nothing happens. here's another example from LiveStream, a Vimeo service.They have a map (example, press "i" https://livestream.com/accounts/23202872/events/7200883 ) , asked to add the attribution, they replied they do not use OSM tiles or data, which i kindly asked how they had

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

also on the the standard mapping convetions, its mentioned in bold : Don't use abbreviations https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editing_Standards_and_Conventions A terça, 16/07/2019, 18:05, Stefan Baebler escreveu: > I think IPA ( >

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

in Portugal the community has agreed not to use abreviations. A terça, 16/07/2019, 15:58, John Whelan escreveu: > One or two are problematic usually as the street name is an > abbreviation.For example 1e Avenue in French meaning First Avenue. > > Any suggestions on how these should be

Re: [OSM-talk] DJI Fly SafeGEO ZONE MAP uses OSM data... without attribution

yes, they do now. they updated it to show it. our doubts were correct that it was OSM data. A quinta, 27/06/2019, 12:52, James escreveu: > on the desktop version they show ©Mapbox ©OpenStreetMap Improve this map > > On Thu., Jun. 27, 2019, 7:50 a.m. Nuno Caldeira, < >

Re: [OSM-talk] DJI Fly SafeGEO ZONE MAP uses OSM data... without attribution

the contributors to comply. One fixed, few others company still need to do the same. A terça, 19/03/2019, 18:48, Nuno Caldeira escreveu: > After more investigation noticed that the military facilities on OSM that > don't have name, also don't have a name on DJI also. If you search on OSM >

Re: [Talk-pt] Relações em urbanização

vê este vídeo para acelerar o processo https://youtu.be/tELDooPvJ0s não precisas adicionar relações. se o edifício tem uma só função, podes deixar o polígono com a etiqueta da função. caso tenha mais que uma função, deixas a etiqueta de edifício no polígono e adicionas o ponto da outra função

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL (Andy Mabbett )

supplied by Mapbox, you may omit text attribution. If your map does not use Mapbox designs, data, hosting, or other Mapbox APIs, Mapbox does not require you to provide attribution in either form. A quinta, 13/06/2019, 18:10, Eugene Alvin Villar escreveu: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 6:17 PM N

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL (Andy Mabbett )

permanetly terminated, unless they comply in 30 days after being notified. A quarta, 12/06/2019, 12:02, Martin Koppenhoefer escreveu: > sent from a phone > > > On 9. Jun 2019, at 15:45, Nuno Caldeira > wrote: > >. > > As mentioned on the blog, i already asked faceboo

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

yes, exactly the same happens on Android as I pointed out on this tweet https://twitter.com/iamnunocaldeira/status/1131190612529688577?s=09 A quarta, 12/06/2019, 08:44, Martin Koppenhoefer escreveu: > > > sent from a phone > > On 12. Jun 2019, at 00:38, Nuno Caldeira

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

Christoph i have well documented them and sent them to Facebook via email on October the 10th 2018 after receiving their reply on the 9th of October of my initial email on the 10th of September 2018. On December the 6th 2018 i asked what was the status or a reply to my email on the 10th of

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

Frederik, i'm well aware of LWG making a better guide regarding the attribution. This does not have to do with the way they attribute. It's about the license. And i'm not asking the board to sue Facebook, what i'm asking is to notify them they are in breach of ODbL, as their are not

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

They do not. Examples: https://twitter.com/iamnunocaldeira/status/1131190612529688577 https://www.facebook.com/recommendations those map previews contains OSM data and there's no attribution. It gets worst if you use their apps (iOS, Android or Windows app) And as i mentioned this is not

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

escreveu: On Sunday 09 June 2019, Nuno Caldeira wrote: I hereby request OSMF board, responsabile for the OSMF, as the Licensor under ODbL 9.4 c) to notify Facebook and remove their rights under ODbL, if the violation is not fixed after 30 days of notice. as written on ODbL. https://opendatacommo

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

I apologize for the signature (my mistake) and asked for the mailing list admin to remove it. This is not a matter on how the attribution must be made, like we discussed before in https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-February/082136.html, it's them not attributing at all.

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL (Andy Mabbett )

the signature On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 at 12:08, Nuno Caldeira https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk>> wrote: >* To acknowledge,I have asked this to the board. *>>* Dear board and board members, *>>* Following my comment on this post https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Drish

[OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

You have received notice of violation of this License from the Licensor, and You cure the violation prior to 30 days after your receipt of the notice. Kind regards, Nuno Caldeira -- Nuno Caldeira nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com http://www.leavesfromthepresentpast.info/ [image: Facebook] <ht

[OSM-talk] 1. correct (scholarly) attribution? (Frederik Ramm)

Hello, You can read about the correct way of attribution here https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Licence_and_Legal_FAQ#Where_to_put_it.3F and here https://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright A sexta, 17/05/2019, 13:03, escreveu: > Send talk mailing list submissions to >

[Talk-pt] DESAFIO MENSAL - Açores 2

A nova missão nos Açores já está a decorrer para algumas ilhas do grupo central. Utilizar a imagem Digital Globe Premium (é a mais recente). Grelha da missão em https://tarefas.openstreetmap.pt/project/5 Tutorial como adicionar edificado no JOSM https://youtu.be/tELDooPvJ0s

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 176, Issue 2

rusted OpenStreetMap data to ensure drone users can fly safe and respecting the law, however the attribution is mandatory by the license terms. Please update the map to display the source of the data. Kind regards, Nuno Caldeira Assunto:Lack of compliance of DJI with OpenStreetMap data l

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