Re: UK PDMLers

2002-03-22 Thread mike wilson

Hi,

Bob Walkden wrote:
 
 The best fish and chips in Britain are from Tate Modern and Regent's
 Park Zoo, mirabile dictu.

When he meant to write:

The best fish and chips in LONDON are from.  8-)

m
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RE: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

2002-03-22 Thread Malcolm Smith

There was one on eBay, sale ended by now, of a complete 67II kit, for a huge
amount of cash!! No, I'm sticking out for a 67II, but I think all their
cameras are great. I would be right in the mire if I sold one of the MXs,
such is its perceived value at home.

Paul, that's not another new e-mail address you have, is it?

Malcolm

 Don't rule out ebay, guys. Even for a 67II. I've seen a couple of them go
 through, and they're certainly less pricey than a new one. And if
 you can live
 without the fancy meter and TTL flash, you can get a very good
 deal on a MLU
 6x7 or a 67. I spent slightly more than $2000, and I now have a
 nice 6x7 with
 a metered finder, grip, and four lenses: late model 55, late
 model 104, a 150,
 and a 300. Don't rule out ebay.
 Paul
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scanning your pictures

2002-03-22 Thread Piet Smit

I'm planning on spending the weekend scanning my pictures. I'm using a normal flatbed 
scanner. Any tips on resolution (Dpi), size etc. etc. etc.

thanx..
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RE: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

2002-03-22 Thread Malcolm Smith

 Malcolm Smith wrote:
 
  All noted. I have had a quick look at UK prices (swallows hard) and
  wonder if camera shop websites abroad or my wife's enemy eBay will be
  worth a look.
 
  That's why I want to take my RB67 kit to the UK to sell :)  The damn 
 things are almost worthless down here.
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 - Dave
 
 http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date)


LOL! Nice website Dave, but I hope your RB67 has escaped the enamel paint!

Malcolm
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Re: 50mm F1.2A

2002-03-22 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 21/03/02 18:50:38 GMT Standard Time, Fred writes:

   You are evil.  This list is an evil conspiracy to part me from
  my money. - -Aaron 
 
  Credit where credit's due.
 
 Were you indeed taking credit for your part in the conspiracy, or
 was that a subliminal use your credit card hint, Peter?  ;-)

Not bad.the latter had never occurred to me...

KR

Peter
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Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-22 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 21/03/02 22:22:02 GMT Standard Time, Cotty writes:

  I've done this for a while with my Tamron (does no-one in the UK
have big _Pentax_ glass?)  
   
   Mike. Someone does, now.
  
  Pray tell, whoever you are.  Hope it's coming to the PDML
  meet... 
 
 I don't think he's on the list. 
 
 I would have thought that at the rate we buy kit, it was in your interest 
 to point ANY cutomers in this direction!
  

I don't think he has internet, at all. Your opportunity to flog him a Mac :). 

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: pancake question

2002-03-22 Thread Len Paris

But the FA 43 f/1.9 just doesn't seem to inspire the fervor,
neither here nor on ebay, that the original pancake does, so
maybe  the 3mm longer and the f/1.9 aperture just doesn't equate
to a genuine pancake lens.  Perhaps folks want their lenses
small and soft, relatively speaking, because the pancake is not
anywhere close to as good as the FA 43 f/1.9 in performance.

Len
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 If I remembered correctly, the FA43/1.9 was considered to be a
pancake lens
 when it was released few years ago.

 regards,
 Alan Chan
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Re: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

2002-03-22 Thread Paul Stenquist

Malcolm Smith wrote:



 Paul, that's not another new e-mail address you have, is it?


I'm not sure what you mean, but my current address is as shown here. I did
change it twice in the same day, when comcast changed the name of the server.
They assigned me a bizarre address. After reporting it here, I realized I could
change it to something similar to my previous address. I hope it won't be
changing again for a long time.
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Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-22 Thread mike wilson

Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I would have thought that at the rate we buy kit, it was in your interest
  to point ANY cutomers in this direction!
   
 
 I don't think he has internet, at all. 

You mean he spends his spare time _taking pictures_? 
Pervert.

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P67, lenses and balance

2002-03-22 Thread Aaron Reynolds

I was trying to explain to someone on the weekend why I found the Pentax 
67 so very comfortable to hand-hold, and I got into talking about 
balance.  If I put my left hand under the mirror box of the 67, in the 
position it would normally be for shooting, I can extend my left hand's 
fingers and thumbs away from supporting the lens and also let go of the 
camera with my right hand altogether, and the camera does not tip or 
wobble.  I find this with both the lenses I own (the 75mm f2.8 and the 
105mm f2.4), which isn't surprising considering that they weigh 
virtually the same and are nearly identical in length.

Anyhow, I find that this makes me feel very comfortable holding the 
camera, and really helps me relax when using it.  When I put my A* 200mm 
f2.8 on my ME Super, I nearly always put the Winder ME II on as well, 
because otherwise I find my left hand's fingers bearing the full weight 
of the camera and lens, and though it isn't very much, it is less 
comfortable.

I was wondering a few things.

1) Have other 67 users noticed this?  Have you noticed it with other 
lenses, or have you noticed the opposite with other lenses?  Obviously 
the 800mm f4 is a little front heavy, but I mean lenses like the 45mm 
and 55mm and 200mm and the two zooms, lenses that would make sense to 
hand-hold.

2) Have any 35mm or 645 owners noticed the same with certain body/lens 
combinations?

3) Am I the only one who is actually excited about this?

-Aaron
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Re: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

2002-03-22 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 03:29  PM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

 No need for the protective clothing :-)

Well, maybe the Bronica needs it...Wheatfield, you got that pic handy?

-Brother Aaron
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Re: Another 67 Arrival.

2002-03-22 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 07:05  PM, Oliver Raymond wrote:

 Aaron \ Doug \ Bill - do you have any particular format or standards for
 testing results? I don't have a densiometer :(

I eyeball really big prints, or small sections blown up really big.  
Then I decide whether or not I like it.  That's about it, really.  I'm 
still figuring out exactly why I like the 75mm f2.8 (aside from the 
obvious -- speed, AOV, min. focus, sharpness).  I just know I like it, 
just like I knew I liked my SMC-M 50mm f1.4.

Congrats on the score!  Keep us posted.

By the way, my temptation for the 55-100 has finally passed.  Seeing as 
how it's an f4 and the 55mm is an f4 and the old 75mm was an f4, I 
figured that as long as it was sharp I'd be okay with it, and would 
cover a good range...but then I got the 75mm f2.8.  90-180 is pretty 
tempting, though.  How fast is it?  Fixed, or does it vary?  How heavy?

-Aaron
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Re: Another 67 Arrival.

2002-03-22 Thread Oliver Raymond

Hi Aaron - the 90-180 is f5.6 steady (yuk!). The difference between the
55-100 (f4) is noticable to me throught the viewfinder.

After hefting, mounting, and generally coveting  it for 2 days, it's the max
aperature (rather that weight) that's leading me to think that Mr Tripod
will be used with this lens more often than with the 55-100

Ps. I tried everything - cold showers, ritualised beatings, (even getting
married in NY), but I succumbed to the temptations... it's only when you
hear Hi, KEH Camera's that you KNOW you have found spiritual solace that
only a true brother can know...!

:) Oliver

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From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: Another 67 Arrival.


 On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 07:05  PM, Oliver Raymond wrote:

  Aaron \ Doug \ Bill - do you have any particular format or standards for
  testing results? I don't have a densiometer :(

 I eyeball really big prints, or small sections blown up really big.
 Then I decide whether or not I like it.  That's about it, really.  I'm
 still figuring out exactly why I like the 75mm f2.8 (aside from the
 obvious -- speed, AOV, min. focus, sharpness).  I just know I like it,
 just like I knew I liked my SMC-M 50mm f1.4.

 Congrats on the score!  Keep us posted.

 By the way, my temptation for the 55-100 has finally passed.  Seeing as
 how it's an f4 and the 55mm is an f4 and the old 75mm was an f4, I
 figured that as long as it was sharp I'd be okay with it, and would
 cover a good range...but then I got the 75mm f2.8.  90-180 is pretty
 tempting, though.  How fast is it?  Fixed, or does it vary?  How heavy?

 -Aaron
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Hakuba Carbon tripod

2002-03-22 Thread Prasanta Chakraborty

Well, I am back from my Japan trip. I went alone and so I could 
take the decision on a mere 3 hours and after 3 visits to 
Yodobashi camera at Shinjuku. I bite the bullet and bought the 
Hakuba MG-604 Carbon Fibre tripod. This is the 4 section one. 
Though the three section one was much more sturdy, it was a bit on 
the heavier side and a bit taller. My justification was, it is 
better to compromise some features for a tripod which you can 
carry, rather go for one with all you want and leave it at home 
because of the weight/size.
At a price of 19000 yen, it seems to be a good buy to m e. I am 
testing it this weekend. Will update the list about the 
performance next week.

Prasanta.
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Re: Another 67 Arrival. (I'll pretend)

2002-03-22 Thread Jeff

I just got inoculated for the LX virus.
What a beauty, and with a heavy lens (SP70-210) I'll pretend it's a 6x7.

Jeff
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Re: pancake question

2002-03-22 Thread Ryan K. Brooks

that the 43 is a pancake. If you take the hood off, it's pretty small.
With the hood pn it looks like a normal 50.

 Well, normal aluminum-encased 50mm.

 Also, it's still in production and doesn't have the no-longer-available
aura.


Indeed- but you forgot to point out that it has autofocus evil. (jk)

-R
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Re: A few quick release questions

2002-03-22 Thread Cotty

  I would have thought that at the rate we buy kit, it was in your interest
  to point ANY cutomers in this direction!
   
 
 I don't think he has internet, at all. 

You mean he spends his spare time _taking pictures_? 
Pervert.

God that is so sick. These people shouldn't be allowed to buy the gear.

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Re: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

2002-03-22 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 01:40  AM, David A. Mann wrote:

  The 6x7 takes a weird battery that, where I am, is hard to find and
 quite expensive.

It's a 4LR44 or 4SR44.  If you're stuck, you can stack 4 LR44/A76/SR44 
button batteries.  Same thing, just that the 4LR44 version is already 
taped together for you.

-Aaron
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Re: Another 67 Arrival.

2002-03-22 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 11:05  PM, William Robb wrote:

 You should send the lens to Aaron, who will test it, then pass
 it on to me for further study...

Yes, we'll produce a detailed report.  It shouldn't take more than a 
year or so of careful study.

-Aaron
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Re: FS: Tokina AT-X 235 AF Pro

2002-03-22 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 09:20  PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

  So does no one have interest in this lens?  Is it too fast?
 Too big? Price?  Make me an offer.

 Somehow I gotta raise funds for that 67 300mm.

There's my problem right there: gotta raise funds for more 67 lenses. ;)

-Aaron
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Re: FYI: 5 Grip B's in Ebay

2002-03-22 Thread Cotty

Subject: Re: FYI: 5 Grip B's in Ebay

At 15:18 22.3.2002 +0200, I wrote:
Dutch action:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1340985632

In Sunny Brighton... ehh.. sounds like someone we all know ;-)

Rob Studdert's wooden beauties are obviously 'giving cause for alarm'  ;-)

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RE: Re: OT: New Epson scanners - Why the 1650 ?

2002-03-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dave,

http://www.virtualtraveller.org/epson2450.htm
is a link to a review done by some guy :-)

If you're in the Toronto area, Greytech Computers carries the 2450 for $559 and Vistek 
carries it for $699 ( http://www.vistek.ca/digital/digdetail.asp?SKU=204199 )

Cheers,
Dave


Original Message:
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From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:53:27 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: New Epson scanners - Why the 1650 ?


Theres a 2450? How did i miss that.I;ll have to
check the site and talk to my friend who i'm ordering
from.

Thanks
Dave

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:17:35 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: New Epson scanners - Why the 1650 ?


I'm just curious, why the 1650 ?
for about $200 CDN more you can have the 2450 Perfection which offers 
higher res (2400x4800), the ability to scan MF transparancies up to 
4x9 and it uses Firewire.

I realise outside of those differences there, the scanners are about 
the same, but I'm just curious why the 1650 is chosen more often than 
the 2450.

Cheers,
Dave


Original Message:
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 From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:50:51 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: OT: New Epson scanners ?


I have ordered an Epson 1650 Photo,with
adapter,hope it's as good.

Dave

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From: Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:43:16 +0200
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: New Epson scanners ?


At 11:42 21.3.2002 -0500, Brendan wrote:
Actually I need to retact what I said about the Epson
1680 before. I just got the new drivers for XP and the
scan quality has improved greatly. This was the first
test with the new drivers and the out of focus
problems are gone, this scan was only reduce in size,
no unsharp mask or colour correction nothing.

http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/flowers2/por.jpg

a simple driver update.

Great news!

I have gotten good reports about the 1680 and was a bit
puzzled why you did not get the same results. Do you use
the Epson's own Twain or the fantastic Silverfast 5 ?
This is also the first report of 1680 with XP. I will
be using Win2K...

I did order my 1680 Pro yesterday, so I am even more happy
now ;-)

I'll be scanning mostly 6x9cm and 4x5 slides and those
occasional 35mm... 

Antti-Pekka

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Re[2]: UK PDMLers

2002-03-22 Thread Robert Wilson

it might be worthwhile to order it in advance so it arrives more or
less when you do. www.7dayshop.co.uk. Takes about a week to deliver.
However, best toc heck that they'll deliver to an address that's not
your credit card address.

Yes they do - I have all mine delivered to work but my credit card
address is at home.

The best fish and chips in Britain are from Tate Modern ...

Does this mean they are cooked in formaldehyde and wrapped
in crumpled impressionist canvasses?

Rob
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Rikenon 50/1.4?

2002-03-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Someone on another discussion list wrote that about 10 years ago, a magazine tested 
50/1.4 lenses and found the XR Rikenon 50/1.4 to be the sharpest from f/2 through f/4. 
It beat the Contax. Does anyone have experience with this lens?

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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Patrick White

Lawrence Kwan writes:
PhotoExpo 2002 is now underway.  No sign of any new releases yet - no
digital SLR and no new limited; only an official launch of Optio 230.
They have a plain small booth.  Not sure if there is any chance for them
to have something in store for 2nd or 3rd day.

A new lens or two I can understand, but what made you think there would be
a DSLR announcement at this show?
If the MZ-S was any indication, if you start saving for the DSLR now,
you'll probably be able to afford it with money to spare when it comes out.
If we all did that, and then bought it when it came out, Pentax might
actually see a sales jump large enough for them to justify producing more
high-end photography products to a quicker schedule.

later,
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Re: P67, lenses and balance

2002-03-22 Thread Bruce Dayton

Aaron,

I can say that my 165/2.8 and 55/4 handle the same way.  Comfortable
for the left hand to support the body/lens and no wobble or strain on
my hand.  I, too, am comfortable with this gentle giant!


Brother Bruce



Thursday, March 21, 2002, 5:50:55 PM, you wrote:

AR I was trying to explain to someone on the weekend why I found the Pentax 
AR 67 so very comfortable to hand-hold, and I got into talking about 
AR balance.  If I put my left hand under the mirror box of the 67, in the 
AR position it would normally be for shooting, I can extend my left hand's 
AR fingers and thumbs away from supporting the lens and also let go of the 
AR camera with my right hand altogether, and the camera does not tip or 
AR wobble.  I find this with both the lenses I own (the 75mm f2.8 and the 
AR 105mm f2.4), which isn't surprising considering that they weigh 
AR virtually the same and are nearly identical in length.

AR Anyhow, I find that this makes me feel very comfortable holding the 
AR camera, and really helps me relax when using it.  When I put my A* 200mm 
AR f2.8 on my ME Super, I nearly always put the Winder ME II on as well, 
AR because otherwise I find my left hand's fingers bearing the full weight 
AR of the camera and lens, and though it isn't very much, it is less 
AR comfortable.

AR I was wondering a few things.

AR 1) Have other 67 users noticed this?  Have you noticed it with other 
AR lenses, or have you noticed the opposite with other lenses?  Obviously 
AR the 800mm f4 is a little front heavy, but I mean lenses like the 45mm 
AR and 55mm and 200mm and the two zooms, lenses that would make sense to 
AR hand-hold.

AR 2) Have any 35mm or 645 owners noticed the same with certain body/lens 
AR combinations?

AR 3) Am I the only one who is actually excited about this?

AR -Aaron
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RE: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

2002-03-22 Thread Malcolm Smith

  Paul, that's not another new e-mail address you have, is it?
 

 I'm not sure what you mean, but my current address is as shown here. I did
 change it twice in the same day, when comcast changed the name of
 the server.
 They assigned me a bizarre address. After reporting it here, I
 realized I could
 change it to something similar to my previous address. I hope it won't be
 changing again for a long time.
 Paul

Oh! Must have happened when I found I was unsubscribed - in just a couple of
days off the list you miss a lot.

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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Jeff Tsai

I've put up some temporary pics from the Pentax booth for your perusal:

http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/

[On a DSL line so upstream connections are a bit slower so I've kept 
picture quality and size down]

Pentax actually had one of the busier booths but nothing exciting shown 
(at least on the first day...).

Cheers.

Jeff

On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 04:12 PM, pentax-discuss-digest wrote:

 They have a plain small booth.  Not sure if there is any chance for them
 to have something in store for 2nd or 3rd day.
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Re: Abreviations

2002-03-22 Thread T Rittenhouse

Interesting, apparently when OE formated the message it cropped off the h in
http. Anyway corrected for those too lazy to do it themselves g.

http://www.ucc.ie/info/net/acronyms/acro.html


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Subject: Re: Abreviations


 If I Recall Correctly. There are dozens of sites that will tell you what
an
 internet acronym means do a search. One of them is
ttp://www.ucc.ie/info/net/acronyms/acro.html

 Ciao,
 Graywolf
 http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
 


 - Original Message -
 From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Pentax discussion group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:09 PM
 Subject: Abreviations


  Hi.
 
  I have managed to figure out most of the abbreviations but can't for the
  life of me figure IIRC. Someone should make a commonly used
abbreviation
  list to post in the archives.
 
  BUTCH
 
  Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself
  Hermann Hesse (Demian)
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RAM for Lombard - clarification required please

2002-03-22 Thread Cotty

Hi,

Right, just trying to get my head around RAM for a Lombard I'm building.

According to the specs, it needs to be:

3.3v unbuffered, low power 144 pin 100MHz 10 ns SO DIMM RAM.

And I also understand that the 'lower slot' RAM, that is the underside 
slot on the CPU daughter board, is the smaller 1.5 size, while the upper 
slot can take the taller 2 (or bigger?) RAM cards. And the smaller, 1.5 
size cards will fit in both the lower and upper slots anyway.

Am I right so far?

Questions:

If I look for used RAM (say eBay), what should I realistically look out 
for? The system bus speed on the Lombard is 66 MHz, yes? But the minimum 
RAM 'speed' needs to be 100MHz, yes? So do I look out for any old 144 pin 
PC100 SO DIMM RAM cards? Obviously not - there are differences, so what 
are they?

RAM for Pismos seems much more prevalent both new and used, so will a 
256MB card that fits a Pismo CPU board RAM slot also fit on e Lombard CPU 
board RAM slot? If not, what about the other way: from a Wallstreet? 
Although the Wallstreet RAM is 'only' 66 MHz, I presume this is 
incompatible?

RAM sold used doesn't necessarily come tagged as 'Lombard' RAM. So what 
other Macintosh computers actually take the same RAM cards as the Lombard?

Thanks very much in advance on this very perplexing issue. Recovering 
from a bout of the flu, so my own RAM is a bit loose at the moment ;-)

Cheers,

Cotty

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FS Friday

2002-03-22 Thread Mick Maguire

I've put the Nature Trekker backpack up on ebay if anybody is interested.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1341042450


I'll do free shipping to North American PDML'ers.

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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-22 Thread Steve Pearson

Mike:

I'm still trying to confirm if any 3rd party makes a
diffuser for this flash (the AF200T)?  You said Stofen
has suggestions on how to avoid under-exposure?  Have
you used one of their diffusers on the 200?

Again, on the Lumiquest web site, they specifically
say they do not have one for the 200.  Maybe people
still buy them  get them to work somehow?

Thank again for all the help!
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RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Rob Brigham

Wow thanks!

This looks to seal it though - nothing new of interest!  They would have
to redo the stands to justify something as big as new limiteds or
digi-SLR.

That lens lineup in the cabinet looks pretty nice though!!

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Tsai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 22 March 2002 16:24
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
 
 
 I've put up some temporary pics from the Pentax booth for 
 your perusal:
 
   http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/
 
 [On a DSL line so upstream connections are a bit slower so I've kept 
 picture quality and size down]
 
 Pentax actually had one of the busier booths but nothing 
 exciting shown 
 (at least on the first day...).
 
 Cheers.
 
 Jeff
 
 On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 04:12 PM, pentax-discuss-digest wrote:
 
  They have a plain small booth.  Not sure if there is any 
 chance for them
  to have something in store for 2nd or 3rd day.
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RE: RAM for Lombard - clarification required please

2002-03-22 Thread Mick Maguire

Ahem! wrong message group I think Cotty! but then again, I bet you'll
get some answers here anyway g

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Re: R: March 2002 PUG Comments (and a Question)

2002-03-22 Thread T Rittenhouse

That is not entirely correct. Win 98, and I suppose newer versions, can use
color profiles for the system. I am certainly using one now.  Go into
display setting, advanced, color management.

One of the  strange things is, if you are using color management for the
system, you have to turn it off in your picture editing software. AND, you
need to set the gamma in you picture editing software to 1 as gamma
correction is already done by the system color management.

Ciao,
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From: David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: R: March 2002 PUG Comments (and a Question)


 Evan Hanson wrote:

  Do you use a browser to view the photos before you send
  them.  I've found there is often a slight difference in how
  my pictures look when I view them with photo imaging
  software (gimp or photoshop) and browsers.  I don't know why
  this is but if I had to make a guess I would think it
  probably has something to do with how they read the jpg
  compression.  Maybe someone with more technical expertise
  can shed some light on this.

  On Windows at least, some photo editing software uses different
 gamma settings to the system, which usually makes the image look
 brighter.

  Photoshop 5.0 or later (full versions only) also uses colour
 profiles which the system does not (well, not for display).

 Cheers,


 - Dave

 http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date)
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Re: RAM for Lombard - clarification required please

2002-03-22 Thread Delano Mireles

on 3/22/02 10:31 AM, Cotty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 According to the specs, it needs to be:
 
 3.3v unbuffered, low power 144 pin 100MHz 10 ns SO DIMM RAM.
 
 And I also understand that the 'lower slot' RAM, that is the underside
 slot on the CPU daughter board, is the smaller 1.5 size, while the upper
 slot can take the taller 2 (or bigger?) RAM cards. And the smaller, 1.5
 size cards will fit in both the lower and upper slots anyway.
 
 Am I right so far?

Cotty,

This is directly from the Apple Memory Guide:

One RAM expansion slot can accommodate a single card of up to128 MB for a
total of 192 MB. 128 MB SO-DIMM (1.5-inch wide card) required in top slot
for space reasons.

Based on this it seems the upper slot requires the smaller dimm.

D
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Re: FYI: 5 Grip B's in Ebay

2002-03-22 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 22/03/02 17:19:51 GMT Standard Time, Cotty writes:

 Rob Studdert's wooden beauties are obviously 'giving cause for alarm'  ;-) 


Not at all. This had been planned for a while. The Studdert grip should be be 
sufficiently expensive for the maker to recoup his initial investment, both 
in time and materials.
 I'd have one.

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: UK PDMLers

2002-03-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

The best fish and chips in Britain are from Tate Modern ...

Your quite right there.  Unfortunately, the fish and chips were about the
only thing in the entire museum with any taste at all.
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RE: P67, lenses and balance

2002-03-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Being the Taoist that I am balance is very important.
That's the one thing I noticed about the MZ-5N.  I disliked the fact that when I put 
an old screw mount onto that body (a 135mm 2.5), it felt, well, weird.  Off balance, 
like it was too top heavy. 

Sure it was fine with the standard 28-80 3.5-5.6 silver FA lens but not with the old 
skool stylings of a classic 80-200 M lens.

The K1000 (or the old SL for that matter) seemed more appropriate.  Even when the 
newer 28-80 FA lens was mounted onto the K1000, it still felt good... because the main 
weight of the camera was firmly held at it's base (i.e. the body).  It felt even 
better once the 135mm was put onto it.  

So yes, I have noted the effect that balance has and yes, you are the only one really 
excited about it... now go on and get out of that jello tree.

Cheers,
Dave


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snip
2) Have any 35mm or 645 owners noticed the same with certain body/lens 
combinations?

3) Am I the only one who is actually excited about this?

-Aaron
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread tom

On 23 Mar 2002 at 1:24, Jeff Tsai wrote:

 I've put up some temporary pics from the Pentax booth for your perusal:
 
  http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/
 

*Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts.

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Re: OT: New Epson scanners ?

2002-03-22 Thread Brendan

I was using the included drivers at first but now I'm
running XP I went and got the Silver fast drivers but
I may just yet and get vuescan since it is compatible
with Paint shop Pro. 


--- Antti-Pekka Virjonen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 11:42 21.3.2002 -0500, Brendan wrote:
 Actually I need to retact what I said about the
 Epson
 1680 before. I just got the new drivers for XP and
 the
 scan quality has improved greatly. This was the
 first
 test with the new drivers and the out of focus
 problems are gone, this scan was only reduce in
 size,
 no unsharp mask or colour correction nothing.
 
 http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/flowers2/por.jpg
 
 a simple driver update.
 
 Great news!
 
 I have gotten good reports about the 1680 and was a
 bit
 puzzled why you did not get the same results. Do you
 use
 the Epson's own Twain or the fantastic Silverfast 5
 ?
 This is also the first report of 1680 with XP. I
 will
 be using Win2K...
 
 I did order my 1680 Pro yesterday, so I am even more
 happy
 now ;-)
 
 I'll be scanning mostly 6x9cm and 4x5 slides and
 those
 occasional 35mm... 
 
 Antti-Pekka
 
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Christian Skofteland

The wife's birthday was today.  If only I'd known that Pentax had such a 
great gift idea

Christian

On Friday 22 March 2002 12:50, Tom wrote:

   http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/

 *Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts.

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Re: How is Russian glass?

2002-03-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

H. There are excellent photos of the Arsat 35 tilt/shift in its various positions 
at http://www.kievcamera.com/cameraphp?ID=17 but according to that page The 35mm PCS 
with shift and tilt is available in Nikon lens mount, Leica R7 lens mount, and Minolta 
lens mount and A similar lens (not shown) that offers shift only movements is 
available in Nikon, Canon, and M42 (Pentax thread mount) lens mounts.

Even its pricey competitor Kiev USA at http://www.kievusa.com/kievpricelist.html sells 
the MIR 35mm f/2.8 shift (persepective control) lens only in Nikon and Kiev 9 mount 
(M42?).

JT I wish they made that 35 shift lens in k-mount. 
Frantisek Vlcek replies:
But they _make_ it in K mount! AFAIK. I have seen several for sale in 
the used section of a big photo shop here. Around 200$. It's after all 
a manual (pre-set?) diaphragm lens, so no problems for them to 
substitute the mounts. 

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RE: UK PDMLers

2002-03-22 Thread Malcolm Smith

 The best fish and chips in Britain are from Tate Modern ...

 Your quite right there.  Unfortunately, the fish and chips were about the
 only thing in the entire museum with any taste at all.
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Go further north and enjoy Glasgow; good museums, galleries, proper fish and
chips (ask for a cod supper) and folk will smile and be genuinely pleased to
see you. If you have the time, visit the Highlands - and take lots of film.

Malcolm
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Mark Roberts

Tom wrote:

Jeff Tsai wrote:

 I've put up some temporary pics from the Pentax booth for your perusal:
 
  http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/

*Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts.

Amazing what you can do when you free up that RD budget that had been directed
to the MZ-D. ;-P


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RE: RAM for Lombard - clarification required please - apology

2002-03-22 Thread Cotty

NOT AGAIN

%^%!$!£%$^%!@!£$!$^!^!@£$!^ auto-complete email $@£$^^^$^$^$%^£$%^


Many apologies, and no wise cracks!

Cotty

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My K 50 1.2 is OK!!! (was fungus or dust?)

2002-03-22 Thread Albano_Garcia

I became so paranoid that I decided to visit local official service.
They looked at the lens and said it was just dust, and that's not worth
open such a jewell (they praised the lens a lot).
I then went to see some used stores, and I asked their opinion two. Both of
them told me the lens is ok, and they praised it A LOT. In fact, I started
a chat with one of them, and he resulted a connoisseur of Pentax. He told
me he owns the A 135 1.8 and praised it to god status, he also told marvels
about Pentax 645 (He told me this is THE 645, don't tell me nothing about
Mamiya, please!!) and the 67 too: I'm a Hasselblad user, but each time I
pick up a 67 I 've a very pleasing feeling. Great optics.
 We have a good chat and I leaved the store very pleased knowing my loved K
50 1.2 is just fine.
Regards

AG
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RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Malcolm Smith

LOL! I can't (even for one minute) see her allowing you to go out taking
photos wearing that!!

Malcolm

 The wife's birthday was today.  If only I'd known that Pentax had such a
 great gift idea

 Christian

 On Friday 22 March 2002 12:50, Tom wrote:

http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/
 
  *Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts.
 
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Christian Skofteland

HAR!  You don't know my wife!

Christian

On Friday 22 March 2002 13:23, Malcolm Smith wrote:
 LOL! I can't (even for one minute) see her allowing you to go out taking
 photos wearing that!!

 Malcolm

  The wife's birthday was today.  If only I'd known that Pentax had such a
  great gift idea
 
  Christian
 
  On Friday 22 March 2002 12:50, Tom wrote:
 http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/
  
   *Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts.
  
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RE: RAM for Lombard - clarification required please - apology

2002-03-22 Thread tom

On 22 Mar 2002 at 18:22, Cotty wrote:

 NOT AGAIN
 
 %^%!$!£%$^%!@!£$!$^!^!£$!^ auto-complete email $@£$^^^$^$^$%^£$%^
 
 Many apologies, and no wise cracks!

Yes, again, and you can't keep us from cracking-wise, Mr. Computer Expert!

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FS Friday

2002-03-22 Thread Cotty

I'll do free shipping to North American PDML'ers.

Regards,
/\/\ick... 

Traitor!

A UK PDMLer


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RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Cotty

That lens lineup in the cabinet looks pretty nice though!!

Who's looking at the lenses!

;-)

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RE: FS Friday

2002-03-22 Thread Mick Maguire

Traitor he says, traitor? If I pay shipping outside of the USA it wont be
worth me selling it!

Regards,
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I'll do free shipping to North American PDML'ers.

Regards,
/\/\ick...

Traitor!

A UK PDMLer


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Re: FS: Remote cord for LX

2002-03-22 Thread Ken Archer

I'll take it if it is still available.

On Friday 22 March 2002 01:17 pm, you wrote:
 Hi; I seem to have aquired, by accident, a second remote cord
 for the LX winder. It may also fot the LX motor, but I can't
 confirm that right now. This is a fairly longish cord, I suspect
 at least 10 feet.
 I paid 25 US dollars for it from another list member, and will
 sell it for the same, shipping included. It is in very nice
 condition, but does not have the original box or packaging
 materials.
 Please reply offlist.
 Thanks
 William Robb
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RE: pancake question

2002-03-22 Thread Paris, Leonard

Do you think they are really buying the pancake because it is a collectable?
It isn't, to my knowledge, a rarity. I think they were produced in pretty
great quantity.  I think the lens has gained an undeserved reputation of
being an extremely sharp lens, because of all of the BS written about it in
ebay item descriptions.  The sheer numbers of them that pass through ebay
should make folks wonder exactly how good they could actually be.  If it was
a really great lens, and a collectable, there wouldn't be so many of them
available.

Len
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: pancake question


That's because the 43 Limited is available brand new and hence is not
collectable. Those who want to pay high prices for their lenses just order
their 43 Limited from their nearest camera shop.

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Re[4]: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

2002-03-22 Thread Bruce Dayton

JCO,

Thanks for the tip.  I already have the 55/4 and got the later
version.  In retrospect, I may have been just as happy with the
55/3.5.  Live and learn.  I am still pondering the 300 issue.  Pretty
much boils down to close focusing.  It would be great to try them side
by side to make sure.  If I do go with the older one (less expensive),
are there different versions that I should be aware of?


Bruce Dayton



Friday, March 22, 2002, 1:09:46 PM, you wrote:

 Bolo,
 
 The Leaf shutter behavior has been answered better than I can as I do
 not have one.
 
 As for the focal length choices - in 35mm I like about the same focal
 lengths.  For me, I will be doing many people shots along with scenics
 so I was concerned that I didn't want to go too wide (starts to make
 edge people look a little fat) and I have read that the 55/4 is one
 super lens.  I suspect that in the future I will end up with the 45
 and fisheye as I love wide angle lenses.  I have also found that 45mm
 is more comfortable for me than 50mm.  The 90/2.8 is better for my
 view and it focuses closer than the 105 - 2.1ft vs. 3.3 and it is 3 oz
 lighter.  One of my overall favorite focal lengths is 85mm - portrait.
 So the 165/2.8 was an easy choice.  I am now looking at the long (for
 me) end to get a 300/4
 
 
 Bruce Dayton
JCOC Couldnt figure out if you have actually bought the 55/4 or not
JCOC but dont dismiss the 55/3.5. I did a shootout between it and the
JCOC (new) 45 F4, and its identical performance to the 45. The only
JCOC downside is the 55/3.5 takes a 100mm filter. I picked up a dead mint
JCOC 55/3.5 off ebay for only 400.00, the 55/4 usually goes for 600.00
JCOC used. Also beware of the first 55/4, its supposedly not as good
JCOC as the second 55/4.
JCOC JCO
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KX MOT

2002-03-22 Thread Anders Werholt

Hi all

Today, I saw a KX MOT body in a magazine advertisement. Used, but not ugly,
chrome, price about 100 USD (motor drive not included). What would be a
descent price for a body like this? How common are they compared to the usual
KX? I already have a nice KX body, so I don't know whether to go for it or
not...

Regards
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FS: Enlarger (was Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question.)

2002-03-22 Thread tom

On 22 Mar 2002 at 13:08, Chris Murray wrote:

 
 I've been looking for an enlarger on ebay, and there are different lenses
 on the different models, as well as lenses being sold. I'm not sure what I
 should look for in an enlarger. I would like to be able to print at
 5x7-8x10 to start.

Since it's for-sale-fridayI have a good starter (and better) enlarger if you're 
interested. It's a Saunders D6700, which has built in dichroic filtration, in 
excellent condition.

It'll do 11x14 from 35mm, and is a very nice unit.

B+H sells them new for about $450...it's yours (or any other PDMLer) for $300 + $25 
shipping inside the US.

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FS: Several Pentax cameras and other items

2002-03-22 Thread Carlos Royo

These are some Pentax cameras I have for sale, because nowadays they see
very little or no use, and I want to sell them to fund other Pentax
equipment
purchases.

This is the first lot:

Pentax SFX AF SLR body (like new) + Pentax soft case for the SFX + SMC
Pentax-F 35-70 mm. 3.5-4.5 (one of the best standard zooms Pentax has
made) + 2 SFX battery grips, one for 2CR5 lithium battery and other for
4 AA batteries (everything is mint, except that one of the plastic tabs
of the soft  case is missing, but it is perfectly functional)
Instruction manual (in Spanish) Everything for 180 euro.

Second lot:

Pentax MZ-5 AF SLR body + SMC Pentax-F 35-80 mm. 4-5.6 (a fine standard
zoom lens) + Fg battery pack (the body and battery pack are like new,
the lens is EX+ cosmetically; optically and mechanically it's perfect)
Instruction manual for the camera in Spanish, and in English for the
battery pack. Everything for 280 euro.


Shipping expenses will be paid by the buyer.

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RE: Re[4]: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

2002-03-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton
 Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 4:19 PM
 To: J. C. O'Connell
 Subject: Re[4]: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!
 
 
 JCO,
 
 Thanks for the tip.  I already have the 55/4 and got the later
 version.  In retrospect, I may have been just as happy with the
 55/3.5.  Live and learn.  I am still pondering the 300 issue.  Pretty
 much boils down to close focusing.  It would be great to try them side
 by side to make sure.  If I do go with the older one (less expensive),
 are there different versions that I should be aware of?
 
 
 Bruce Dayton

There were two versions of the non-EDIF 300 F4. As far as
I can tell they are identical optics, different cosmetics.
FWIW, I got a mint older one (SMCT) for 600.00 on ebay
and its a dandy. For the extreme difference in cost of the
EDIF version, I dont think its worth it for the close
focussing especially when there are easy workarounds if/
when those situations come up. BUT if your main interest
and work will be a lot of portriats, it MIGHT be worth it.
Dont forget you can buy a closeup lens that mounts on the
front if you dont want to dismount the lens to insert
a tube.
JCO
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Ryan K. Brooks

So when is the next important show?

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Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?


 Oooops. Seems like the Pentax digital slr rumor was false after all.
Strange that pentax don't show any new products at this show as it is quite
important.
 Still, the next Limited lens is indeed due but when is an open question.

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Re: Another 67 Arrival. (I'll pretend)

2002-03-22 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Friday, March 22, 2002, 1:20:18 PM, Jeff wrote:
J I just got inoculated for the LX virus.
J What a beauty, and with a heavy lens (SP70-210) I'll pretend it's a 6x7.

J Jeff

Inoculated? You mean you have got at least three bodies, one for low
iso film, one for 1600 film, the third just backup ;-)) ?


Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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Re: UK PDMLers

2002-03-22 Thread Cotty

Your quite right there.  Unfortunately, the fish and chips were about the
only thing in the entire museum with any taste at all.

My God! It's a good thing my SO isn't on this list - she'd send a bolt of 
lightning through the wires to your keyboard!

Cots

(though I'm with you)

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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Cotty

*Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts.

Thanks Tom - that was the best laugh I've had all week. Made my day!

Cotty

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Re: pancake question

2002-03-22 Thread frank theriault

Hi, Len,

Interesting.

When I borrowed Wendy's MX, I didn't expect to find the 40mm pancake on it.
Having read opinions on this list similar to yours, Len, I really didn't expect
much from it in terms of sharpness.

Maybe it was my low expectation that caused me to be pleasantly surprised when I
got back my first roll, and found the prints to be quite sharp.

But maybe I have low standards...  ;-)

In any event, I still want one.  Not as a collectable, obviously, but as a
user.  And, I have to admit, part of the allure for me is its size.  I think it
would be wasted on any camera but the MX or one of the other M series bodies
(size-wise), as they're so physically compatible.

Thanks to all who replied regarding whether the price of the one that I'm
looking at is reasonable - as I suspected, it seems to be.

regards,
frank

Paris, Leonard wrote:

 Do you think they are really buying the pancake because it is a collectable?
 It isn't, to my knowledge, a rarity. I think they were produced in pretty
 great quantity.  I think the lens has gained an undeserved reputation of
 being an extremely sharp lens, because of all of the BS written about it in
 ebay item descriptions.  The sheer numbers of them that pass through ebay
 should make folks wonder exactly how good they could actually be.  If it was
 a really great lens, and a collectable, there wouldn't be so many of them
 available.

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RE: FS Friday

2002-03-22 Thread Cotty

Traitor he says, traitor? If I pay shipping outside of the USA it wont be
worth me selling it!

If Sir Walter Raleigh had said that way back when, well - we'd all be in 
right stink, eh!

(papers arrived yet Fawlty?)

*hic*

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Re: OT: Artspeak

2002-03-22 Thread Doug Franklin

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:52:00 +, Bob Walkden wrote:

 [...] example of Artspeak from an exhibition e-blurb I was sent. [...]

Rivals politician-speak for self-important emptiness.

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Re[2]: pancake question

2002-03-22 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

 Do you think they are really buying the pancake because it is a collectable?
 It isn't, to my knowledge, a rarity. I think they were produced in pretty
 great quantity.  I think the lens has gained an undeserved reputation of
 being an extremely sharp lens,

collectible and rare are not the same thing. Collectors don't operate
according to any logic discernible to non-collectors. A good example
of this, which I've been able to take advantage of, is the Leica M4-2.
16,100 of these were made, compared with 22,444 of its successor the
M4-P. Yet the M4-2 sells for significantly less than the M4-P because
it has a bad name with collectors. This bad name is entirely
undeserved; it's simply an irrational collector thing, like the
pancake lens. There's more about it here:
http://www.nemeng.com/leica/016b.shtml

I got mine, which is in very good condition, for significantly less
than than I could have got any other Leica M, and as far as I can tell
it's no worse (or better) than any others. It's certainly no worse
than my M3, which cost the same and is in noticeably worse condition
cosmetically.

The pancake lens is rather like this. I paid about US $100- for mine.
It's in perfect condition. Optically it's a good enough lens for most
purposes, but it's certainly not 'extremely sharp'. The focal length
is very nice indeed, and the thin focusing grip is not a problem for
me. But I can't understand why people get into a frenzy over them;
it's just one of those inexplicably irrational things, like beanie
dolls, hula hoops and clackers.


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Quick, embarassing Q!

2002-03-22 Thread Oliver Raymond

I've got to print out a 35mm neg to 5x7 on a 4x5 enlarger... what lens? i
only remember 6x7 (80mm \ 135mm)  \ 4x5 (135mm \ 150mm) now! i thought 50mm,
but it's coming up tiny...

brain fried from putting together processor!
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Re: OT: Artspeak

2002-03-22 Thread frank theriault

C'mon nothing beats lawyer-speak, for self-important emptiness!  I used to
know a lawyer who, in his correspondence, refused to say photocopy, but
rather, called them electro-photo-reproductions.  Instead of writing last
Friday, he wrote Friday 'ultimo'.  I could go on...  Sheesh!

And, don't get me started on Military-speak (my favourite!).

res ipsa locquitor  ;-)

-frank

Doug Franklin wrote:

 Rivals politician-speak for self-important emptiness.


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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Pål Jensen

Ryan wrote:

 So when is the next important show?


Photokina in September. Pentax is prone to announce major releases at the Photokina 
show. However, they are also known to release products at anytime - no show required. 
Then theres Photography day the first of june when Pentax release the Photo annual 
book - this event may also be a launching pad for products.

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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Cotty

Oooops. Seems like the Pentax digital slr rumor was false after all.  
Strange that pentax don't show any new products at this show as it is 
quite important. 
Still, the next Limited lens is indeed due but when is an open question.

I must admit that I was very skeptical. No, really. I just got caught up 
in all the hype.

Let's put it this way: I have firmly decided that if nothing happens at 
Photokina this year, a few days later I will be placing an order for a 
Canon D60, grip, microdrive, and extra battery, which means there will be 
a lot of K mount glass going up for sale. There's only one possible thing 
that will stop me from doing that, and you know what it is. At this time, 
I am convinced that I wont be selling *anything*...

A cheery good night from England where even Brighton is far from sunny 
right now!

Cotradamus

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Re: OT: Artspeak

2002-03-22 Thread tom

On 22 Mar 2002 at 17:43, Doug Franklin wrote:

 On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:52:00 +, Bob Walkden wrote:
 
  [...] example of Artspeak from an exhibition e-blurb I was sent. [...]
 
 Rivals politician-speak for self-important emptiness.
 

What did Zappa say? 

Writing about art is like dancing about architecture.

Or something to that effect...

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Re[2]: UK PDMLers

2002-03-22 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

everyone's a critic! I like Tate Modern, although if you're really
cool these days it's de rigeuer to say you prefer Tate Britain.

Last time I went to Tate Modern I was with a friend and her 6-year-old
daughter. I asked the little girl what she thought of one of the
exhibits. She replied It looks like poo.

And it does.

---

 Bob  

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Friday, March 22, 2002, 10:39:22 PM, you wrote:

Your quite right there.  Unfortunately, the fish and chips were about the
only thing in the entire museum with any taste at all.

 My God! It's a good thing my SO isn't on this list - she'd send a bolt of 
 lightning through the wires to your keyboard!

 Cots

 (though I'm with you)
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Re: Remote cord for LX

2002-03-22 Thread William Robb

Sold.
Thanks

William Robb


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From: William Robb
Subject: FS: Remote cord for LX


 Hi; I seem to have aquired, by accident, a second remote cord
 for the LX winder. It may also fot the LX motor, but I can't
 confirm that right now. This is a fairly longish cord, I
suspect
 at least 10 feet.
 I paid 25 US dollars for it from another list member, and will
 sell it for the same, shipping included. It is in very nice
 condition, but does not have the original box or packaging
 materials.
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Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question.

2002-03-22 Thread Bob Blakely

For a 35mm enlarger...

I'm told the 75mm f/4.5 Minolta Rokkor is decent. Also, the Nikor 105mm f-5.6 is
considered pretty good. These are fairly expensive as enlarger lenses go, so they 
better
be good. The last enlarging lens that I used was a screw mount Pentax 100mm f/4 macro
lens with a converter to Leica mount. (These converters are nearly impossible to find.)
Worked pretty damn good, but this would be an expensive way to go.

Don't try this with any other lens than a macro lens. You'll be disappointed.

Regards,
Bob...

Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity,
and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us
from the former, for the sake of the latter.
The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls
for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude,
and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we
suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty,
we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.'
It is a very serious consideration that millions yet
unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event.
- Samuel Adams, 1771

From: Chris Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Hi All -

 Thanks for the advice on developing my own film. I am going to head down
 to the pro shop that I use and pick up a two reel tank, and some
 chemicals. I am going to start by doing my negs and then move onto prints.

 I've been looking for an enlarger on ebay, and there are different lenses
 on the different models, as well as lenses being sold. I'm not sure what I
 should look for in an enlarger. I would like to be able to print at
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Re: How is Russian glass?

2002-03-22 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

OK,
 when I get to the shop again, I will have a close look at it what
 mount it is.

Will keep you informed,
 Frantisek

Friday, March 22, 2002, 6:59:19 PM, vze2vg3x wrote:
vvn H. There are excellent photos of the Arsat 35 tilt/shift in its various 
positions at http://www.kievcamera.com/cameraphp?ID=17 but according to that page The 
35mm PCS with shift and tilt is
vvn available in Nikon lens mount, Leica R7 lens mount, and Minolta lens mount and 
A similar lens (not shown) that offers shift only movements is available in Nikon, 
Canon, and M42 (Pentax thread
vvn mount) lens mounts.

vvn Even its pricey competitor Kiev USA at http://www.kievusa.com/kievpricelist.html 
sells the MIR 35mm f/2.8 shift (persepective control) lens only in Nikon and Kiev 9 
mount (M42?).

JT I wish they made that 35 shift lens in k-mount. 
vvn Frantisek Vlcek replies:
vvn But they _make_ it in K mount! AFAIK. I have seen several for sale in 
vvn the used section of a big photo shop here. Around 200$. It's after all 
vvn a manual (pre-set?) diaphragm lens, so no problems for them to 
vvn substitute the mounts. 

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Re: Quick, embarassing Q!

2002-03-22 Thread tom

On 22 Mar 2002 at 17:50, Oliver Raymond wrote:

 I've got to print out a 35mm neg to 5x7 on a 4x5 enlarger... what lens? i
 only remember 6x7 (80mm \ 135mm)  \ 4x5 (135mm \ 150mm) now! i thought 50mm, but
 it's coming up tiny...

50mm is correct. The max coverage of the enlarger head doesn't matter, just focal 
length and column height (and bellows extension with longer lenses).

Move the head further up?

Are you sure you have the 50 and not the 150?

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Re: OT: Artspeak

2002-03-22 Thread Doug Franklin

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:39:00 -0500, frank theriault wrote:

  Rivals politician-speak for self-important emptiness.

 C'mon nothing beats lawyer-speak, for self-important emptiness!

Well, around here, politician is an almost proper subset of lawyer.

 Instead of writing last
 Friday, he wrote Friday 'ultimo'.

That's just old fashioned pompous assedness.

 And, don't get me started on Military-speak (my favourite!).

I think that's mostly so they can say they blew people into tiny pieces
without making the general public realize too closely what they've
said. ;^)


TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question

2002-03-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Hi Chris ...

Keep it simple, good, and inexpensive - an El Nikkor 50/2.8 is a very
fine starter lens. They are generally quite good optically, and they
are common, which makes finding a good example relatively easy and
fairly inexpensive.  It's also good enough to make larger prints. 

As for an enlarger, there are two ways to look at a first purchase.  One
way is to buy something inexpensive and simple, to use while you're
learning, until you know what you want to do in the darkroom.  At that
point you'll have a good idea of the features you'd want in an enlarger,
how big you'd like to print, and the formats that might be of interest.

The other is to spend some money and buy an enlarger that you can grow
into.  Beselers, Omegas, Saunders, some Dursts, are all common brands
with good reputations that offer good quality.

So, first decide how you want to proceed, then look in those areas.

From: Chris Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Hi All -

 Thanks for the advice on developing my own film. I am going to head down
 to the pro shop that I use and pick up a two reel tank, and some
 chemicals. I am going to start by doing my negs and then move onto prints.

 I've been looking for an enlarger on ebay, and there are different lenses
 on the different models, as well as lenses being sold. I'm not sure what I
 should look for in an enlarger. I would like to be able to print at
 5x7-8x10 to start.

-shel belinkoff
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Re: OT: Artspeak

2002-03-22 Thread frank theriault

Hi, Doug,

Right you are.  Most politicians are, after all, lawyers!  No wonder we're
in the mess we're in.

-frank

Doug Franklin wrote:

 Well, around here, politician is an almost proper subset of lawyer.


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Re: Quick, embarassing Q!

2002-03-22 Thread Oliver Raymond

absolutely... brain's feeling better now!
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Quick, embarassing Q!


 On 22 Mar 2002 at 17:50, Oliver Raymond wrote:

  I've got to print out a 35mm neg to 5x7 on a 4x5 enlarger... what lens?
i
  only remember 6x7 (80mm \ 135mm)  \ 4x5 (135mm \ 150mm) now! i thought
50mm, but
  it's coming up tiny...

 50mm is correct. The max coverage of the enlarger head doesn't matter,
just focal length and column height (and bellows extension with longer
lenses).

 Move the head further up?

 Are you sure you have the 50 and not the 150?

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Pentax SP1000 battery

2002-03-22 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Hi,
   what's the proper battery for an M42 Asahi Pentax Sp1000? I picked
   one up in near mint cosmetic shape but with some health problems
   (working on them now, though), and want to try the meter.

   Also, if the original battery is a 1.35 mercury, will the 1.5
   alkaline work well (considering that alkalines get from 1.65 to
   1.25V over their life, but mercury batteries stay near 1.35 almost
   all their life)? Which battery numbers will work in it? It is
   about the half size of SR44 it seems.

   A wonderful camera, it made my photography simpler (as the meter
   isn't working), I put a portrait 1.8/80mm lens on it and meter
   handheld, and it's great... A nice complementation to the LX I use
   normally :)

Good light,
 Frantisek Vlcek
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Re: FS Fridays

2002-03-22 Thread Kenneth Waller

For Sale, Once used Tamrac 678 Rolling Photo Backpack in almost as new
condition (wheels are scuffed). Bought to transport 600mm FA lens and some
photo gear. Pack measures approximately 24 high by 14  wide by 12 deep.
Will hold multiple 35mm  medium format cameras, large telephoto lenses, a
tripod  a multitude of related equipment. Rolls well in airports and on
paved surfaces and also is a comfortable  backpack. Is foam padded and water
proof with foam padded adjustable dividers to creat protective compartments
to securely hold a variety of cameras, lenses  accessories. Fits in most
overhead compartments on commercial jets. Decided to sell after one trip to
the Alaska outback, where it quickly became apparent that this  was not the
way to transport this lens in the bush - took too much time to set up and
break down camera body/lens for transport in backpack. Have since bought a
Kinesis L630 long lens case/padded shoulder harness which allows me to carry
lens with body attached for quicker setup in the field.  Currently selling
for $ 337.50 @ BH where I purchased mine. Can view at
http://www.tamrac.com./welcome.htm. Contact me off list @
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Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question

2002-03-22 Thread Chris Murray

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 Hi Chris ...
 
 Keep it simple, good, and inexpensive - an El Nikkor 50/2.8 is a very
 fine starter lens. They are generally quite good optically, and they
 are common, which makes finding a good example relatively easy and
 fairly inexpensive.  It's also good enough to make larger prints. 
 
 As for an enlarger, there are two ways to look at a first purchase.  One
 way is to buy something inexpensive and simple, to use while you're
 learning, until you know what you want to do in the darkroom.  At that
 point you'll have a good idea of the features you'd want in an enlarger,
 how big you'd like to print, and the formats that might be of interest.
 
 The other is to spend some money and buy an enlarger that you can grow
 into.  Beselers, Omegas, Saunders, some Dursts, are all common brands
 with good reputations that offer good quality.
 
 So, first decide how you want to proceed, then look in those areas.

I guess it depends on what the pockets can afford :) I am going to try to
process some of my first bw negs (Tmax 100) this weekend, I have to get a
tank, reel, and chem. I have a thermometer, I think that is all i need.

The lens lengths confused me, I saw a lot of 50mm so I assumed those were
the Standard to start with. I am not sure how they relate to the
printing process.

I am going to wait another week or so before I get ready to buy an
enlarger.

Thanks for the help.

- Chris


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Re: How is Russian glass?

2002-03-22 Thread Ken Archer

Monday, I received a new MC Jupiter-9 2/85mm lens from Pavel Gubanov.  
Many of you know him as ustas on ebay.  He quit listing this lens for 
awhile on ebay and I emailed him to see if he had any more.  He sent me 
a new one for $45, including shipping.  From what I could tell from the 
Russian manual, it was manufactured in 2001.

I ran a test roll through it today and I am pleasantly surprised.  How 
good can a $45 lens be anyway?  I am probably more surprised that my 
wife sat still long enough without any makeup on for me to see how it 
works as a portrait lens.

I shot five head-and-shoulder shots of my wife @ f:2-f:8.  My wife and 
my two daughters picked the f:2 shot as the most flattering.  It's 
noticably sharper at f:4.  I shot a series of brick wall shots and 
there doesn't appear to be any light falloff at f:2.8.  Again it 
sharpens nicely at f:4.  A third series to check the bokeh impressed me 
as well...very nice and smooth.  If my count is right, it has 16 blades 
and the roundest aperature I have ever seen.

On the negative side, it uses stop down metering and is a preset lens.  
The focusing is certainly not as smooth as we have come to expect from 
our Takumars.  It is going to take a little practice to get used to it, 
but it may just be worth the trouble.  Judging from the results, this 
could be the best $45 I've spent in a long time.

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Re: KX MOT

2002-03-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

For those who don't know, MOT means Motor Drive (optional). This is the same drive 
available on the K2 MOT.

Other than condition, two attributes can make a KX cost more: black body, and the MOT 
capability. Chrome (silver) KXs seem to sell for $90 to $130. Blaack KXs, $120 to 
$200. 

Since I became a KX fan a couple months back, I've scoured my links and found just two 
KX MOTs for sale. A chrome KX MOT is going for something like $379. A black KX MOT is 
going for $189! Go figure.

I suspect that a certain number of the KXs for sale on EBay are MOTs but the owner 
isn't aware. (OR does MOT appear prominently on the body?) It would be nice if someone 
shared a secret for spotting hidden MOT specimens.

In either case, $100 sounds like a great price if you'll actually use the motor drive 
option or think that you may one day resell the camera. But if you don't plan to use 
the motor drive--which is costly and scarce--I'd shop for a KX on the basis of its 
condition. Make sure the aperture window is vislble; it's prone to be misaligned. Also 
check the mirror lockup and timer.

Anders Werholt wrote:
Today, I saw a KX MOT body in a magazine advertisement. Used, but not ugly, 
chrome, price about 100 USD (motor drive not included). What would be a 
descent price for a body like this? How common are they compared to the usual KX? I 
already have a nice KX body, so I don't know whether to go for it or not... 

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RE: Pentax SP1000 battery

2002-03-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell

I've used the silver version at www.photobattery.com
with good results. The generic model nuber is 400.
JCO

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frantisek Vlcek
 Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:40 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Pentax SP1000 battery
 
 
 Hi,
what's the proper battery for an M42 Asahi Pentax Sp1000? I picked
one up in near mint cosmetic shape but with some health problems
(working on them now, though), and want to try the meter.
 
Also, if the original battery is a 1.35 mercury, will the 1.5
alkaline work well (considering that alkalines get from 1.65 to
1.25V over their life, but mercury batteries stay near 1.35 almost
all their life)? Which battery numbers will work in it? It is
about the half size of SR44 it seems.
 
A wonderful camera, it made my photography simpler (as the meter
isn't working), I put a portrait 1.8/80mm lens on it and meter
handheld, and it's great... A nice complementation to the LX I use
normally :)
 
 Good light,
  Frantisek Vlcek
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Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question

2002-03-22 Thread tom

On 22 Mar 2002 at 15:52, Chris Murray wrote:
 
 I guess it depends on what the pockets can afford :) I am going to try to
 process some of my first bw negs (Tmax 100) this weekend, I have to get a
 tank, reel, and chem. I have a thermometer, I think that is all i need.

Scissors, neg sleeves, a bottle opener and a film extractor are useful. You'll need 
storage bottles and measuring cups.

Maybe a changing bag too.

Somewhere and some way to hang and dry the film.

 
 The lens lengths confused me, I saw a lot of 50mm so I assumed those were
 the Standard to start with. I am not sure how they relate to the
 printing process.

50mm is the standard for 35mm. The typical recommended 1st lens is a used Nikkor 
50/2.8, and it's fine.

Once you get anal you can shop around for a Schneider or Rodenstock.

;)

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RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Rob Brigham

So can you tell us what it is now? (please...)

 -Original Message-
 From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 
 Still, the next Limited lens is indeed due but when is an 
 open question.
 
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RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Rob Brigham

Me too, I just WANTED to believe it soo much that I almost convinced
myself.  Almost, but not quite.  Even an announcement would have been
nice...

I think if they have nothing for Photokina then you wont be the only
customer lost to Pentax.  Many more will leave soon and probably many of
those will never return.  They HAVE to get it done this year - their
market is diminishing with every passing month.

 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 I must admit that I was very skeptical. No, really. I just 
 got caught up 
 in all the hype.
 
 Let's put it this way: I have firmly decided that if nothing 
 happens at 
 Photokina this year, a few days later I will be placing an 
 order for a 
 Canon D60, grip, microdrive, and extra battery, which means 
 there will be 
 a lot of K mount glass going up for sale. There's only one 
 possible thing 
 that will stop me from doing that, and you know what it is. 
 At this time, 
 I am convinced that I wont be selling *anything*...
 
 A cheery good night from England where even Brighton is far 
 from sunny 
 right now!
 
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Re: Pentax SP1000 battery

2002-03-22 Thread frank theriault

Hi, Frantisek,

The mercury cell is a px400, but they can be pretty hard to find, as
they've been illegal in many places for quite some time.  I think Varta
might have been one of the last to make them, but they've now stopped.

I've heard of some Spottie users who've used the alkaline replacements
successfully.  AFAIK, the only downside of alkaline is that they don't
last as long.  Maybe 6 to 12 months (?), as opposed to 10 years or more
for mercury cells.

They are wonderful cameras, aren't they?  :-)

regards,
frank

Frantisek Vlcek wrote:

 Hi,
what's the proper battery for an M42 Asahi Pentax Sp1000? I picked
one up in near mint cosmetic shape but with some health problems
(working on them now, though), and want to try the meter.

Also, if the original battery is a 1.35 mercury, will the 1.5
alkaline work well (considering that alkalines get from 1.65 to
1.25V over their life, but mercury batteries stay near 1.35 almost
all their life)? Which battery numbers will work in it? It is
about the half size of SR44 it seems.

A wonderful camera, it made my photography simpler (as the meter
isn't working), I put a portrait 1.8/80mm lens on it and meter
handheld, and it's great... A nice complementation to the LX I use
normally :)

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New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)

2002-03-22 Thread tom

Assuming no new limited at PhotoExpo, what do you guys want to do with the pool?

- scrap it
- leave it as is until a new lens gets announced.
- start over again in May in anticipation of a summer announcement.

I'm told the 2 likely scenarios are mid to late summer, or Photokina.

Other suggestions welcomed.

tv

On 23 Mar 2002 at 0:22, Rob Brigham wrote:

 So can you tell us what it is now? (please...)
 
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  Still, the next Limited lens is indeed due but when is an 
  open question.
  
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RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Bruce Rubenstein

To quote an old American baseball player, Deja-vue all over again! There were
the same exact same posts here several years ago regarding the mythical MZ-1.
Over the years I have come to the opinion that if Pentax's current products
satisfy your needs, stay with them. If you need them to come out with something
new, you will wind up in anticipation purgatory.


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 Me too, I just WANTED to believe it soo much that I almost convinced
 myself.  Almost, but not quite.  Even an announcement would have been
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Re: Pentax SP1000 battery

2002-03-22 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: Pentax SP1000 battery


 Hi, Frantisek,

 The mercury cell is a px400, but they can be pretty hard to
find, as
 they've been illegal in many places for quite some time.  I
think Varta
 might have been one of the last to make them, but they've now
stopped.

Frantisek may have an easier time finding one where he is than
we have in North America.
I believe a #390 watch cell is identical to the px400, except
for the lack of the plastic collar. The collar is important for
otherwise the cell can short circuit on the compartment.

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Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)

2002-03-22 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: tom
Subject: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from
Pentax?)


 Assuming no new limited at PhotoExpo, what do you guys want to
do with the pool?

 - scrap it
 - leave it as is until a new lens gets announced.
 - start over again in May in anticipation of a summer
announcement.

 I'm told the 2 likely scenarios are mid to late summer, or
Photokina.

Scrap it.

William Robb
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RE;How is Russian Glass

2002-03-22 Thread Butch Black

 I wish they made that 35 shift lens in k-mount. I'd sure sign up for
JT one

You may want to check Kiev/USA. They list the 35 shift in screwmount but
they also have a box saying Nikon and other mounts add $50. So the may be
able to do a K mount on that or the other lenses they offer.
Their web site is; http://www.kievusa.com  The owner, Saul Kaminsky is a
nice guy and the company is honest. I used to work in Greenwich (CT) and
would send customers needing quick or minor camera repair to him.

BUTCH

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Pentax digital SLR - Not now!

2002-03-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell

I've been thinking about this lately and I'm in
no rush. Todays technology ( even with 6Mp ) isnt
as good as 35mm film capture. It's better to buy a
good 35mm film scanner if you want digital processing
as the resolution is way higher ( isnt 4000dpi roughly
equal to 24 Mp?). You can buy a great 35mm film scanner
for roughly $1500, way less than any digital SLR would cost.

I dont like the idea of having to deal with low
capacity batteries, shutter lag, low resolution,
limited dynamic range and overall complexity
of the cameras. I could imagine keeping dust
off the sensors when changing lenses will be
a royal pain in the ass.
 Sure, instant results and very
low operating costs are a plus, but I'm only
marginally satisfied with the resolution of
35mm film, going downward in resolution now
is not acceptable to me.

I like the fact that I can grab a coupla spotmatics,
a half-dozen rolls of film and shoot all day.
No hassles with batteries running out and downloading
flash cards, etc. 

Until they can design digital SLRs that MEET or
EXCEED 35mm in terms of resolution and with 
high capacity on board memory, I'm gonna stick
with film. Pentax and minolta are probably doing
the right thing in terms of designing digital SLRs.
They arent as good as 35mm film yet and cost way too
much to produce compared to other digital technologies
like film scanners. Sure for press photographers
they fit the bill, but I'm not a press photographer.

Patiently Waiting for now,
JCO
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Strange MX on Ebay

2002-03-22 Thread T Rittenhouse

Looks like someone canibalized two cameras to make this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1340242526

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto

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Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)

2002-03-22 Thread Brendan

Best start a new poll close to the next possible
release time.

--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: tom
 Subject: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so
 nothing new from
 Pentax?)
 
 
  Assuming no new limited at PhotoExpo, what do you
 guys want to
 do with the pool?
 
  - scrap it
  - leave it as is until a new lens gets announced.
  - start over again in May in anticipation of a
 summer
 announcement.
 
  I'm told the 2 likely scenarios are mid to late
 summer, or
 Photokina.
 
 Scrap it.
 
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