Re: [ot_caving] computer news

2008-09-10 Thread Don Cooper
I think my $300 Dell Laptop has a liquid cooling system. Apparently all that does is help pipe heat away from the CPU so the heat sink matrix and fan don't have to be centered on the CPU. (Man, the bottom of that thing runs HOT when it's running wide open - hooked up to external power with all

Re: [ot_caving] fruit bats may be using biological warfare against humans

2008-08-31 Thread Don Cooper
I wish I could understand how carrying a virus could be beneficial to a species - and how loss or challenge of habitat would make the virus more prevalent. Interesting article, though. -WaV On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.comwrote: Ok so I copied that headline

Re: [Texascavers] Deep and Punkin Update

2008-08-29 Thread Don Cooper
DO NOT FORGET! If you are a Verizon subscriber, you're cell phone WILL NOT work out there at the preserve. I believe ATT phone service is one provider that DOES work out there. But - can you hear me now? NO. You Won't if you're on VERIZON. -WaV On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Geary Schindel

Re: [ot_caving] Yes Calif again NGV

2008-08-27 Thread Don Cooper
I believe that relying on our own resources as opposed to enriching the treasuries of oil-rich middle eastern countries is a very good idea, economically. -WaV On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 6:38 AM, qui...@clearwire.net wrote: This may help oil but will it help the economy? The air quality - some

[ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] Deep Roots

2008-08-25 Thread Don Cooper
Wow - That means Uwe Lange and Manfred Huchthausen are ultimate world-record 'homeboys'. 3000 years. Wow! -WaV On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 2:19 PM, CaverArch cavera...@aol.com wrote: Cave discovery of 40 Bronze Age skeletons in the Lichtenstein Cave: BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Uncovering the

Re: [ot_caving] a semi-funny personal story

2008-08-21 Thread Don Cooper
You are like a big cottonwood leaf tossed about by the winds of Karma. -WaV On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:20 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: I was riding my scooter all day in the rain today, because I decided to leave my rainsuit at home. I decided to find a store to go in and dry off.

[ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] OT - Tropical Storm Fay

2008-08-21 Thread Don Cooper
I wonder if the Fu King Chinese Restaurant is going to suffer the brunt of it? (But once you've seen one Fu King Chinese Restaurant - I guess you've seen 'em all) _WaV PS: Did anyone run into Bill Morgan aka Sleazeweazel at the convention? On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 1:42 PM, David

[ot_caving] Cheese Freeze - used food

2008-08-21 Thread Don Cooper
Yesterday I became the proud owner of 40 lbs of cheese. It's a 5 to 1 mixture of diced mozzerella and cheddar. The stuff comes shipped frozen - and as so would remain viable, good or fresh until some time next year. However, once thawed - as it were - still packaged - it only has a 3 day shelf

Re: [Texascavers] Florida Showers

2008-08-15 Thread Don Cooper
I'm bringing my Jews harp - boing boiing boing booiinnng boing boing -WaV On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.comwrote: BOO HOO! -Original Message- From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 10:10 AM

Re: [Texascavers] Chupacabra Alert near SA!

2008-08-13 Thread Don Cooper
Oh, I see. CHumpacabra is the same thing as a coyote or dog? Don't doggie's suck goats? -WaV On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:29 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Y'all thought I was crazy, but, here's more proof of another illegal alien invading the Lone Star State. Coming to a cave near you, I

Re: [ot_caving] 108 mpg car has 8 gal gas tank

2008-08-09 Thread Don Cooper
I've been hearing about such an engine for 20 years. In practice, using compressed air is almost exactly the same thing as using a big spring. Energy in = Energy out Many times I've wondered if I had a mechanical spring to store the energy I use when coming to a stop - and used that wound up

Re: [Texascavers] cave locations on-line--Brinco

2008-08-09 Thread Don Cooper
Interesting. Perhaps not a real good thing. Should caves locations be posted on the internet? Historically, the answer has been ABSOLUTELY NOT. I'm pretty sure that the fine people at Google will remove it if asked to. -WaV On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Gill Ediger gi...@worldnet.att.net

Re: [Texascavers] New Amphibious Vehicle

2008-08-08 Thread Don Cooper
That looks a whole lot like the thing the Bannana Splits used to zoom around in. Of course theirs were fiberglass and not like, on steroids. Those guys never went caving though. Not unless in was in Spelunkers Cave at Six Flags. -WaV On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Minton, Mark mmin...@nmhu.edu

[ot_caving] ...Then one day he was huntin' up some food and up through the ground came a bubbling crude thermal anomoly

2008-08-07 Thread Don Cooper
Very very interesting! Just when you thought those California brush fires were OUT http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-hotground5-2008aug05%2C0%2C4689903.story -WaV

[ot_caving] GERMS From SPACE!

2008-08-07 Thread Don Cooper
Howard Hugh's worst nightmare. http://www.wired.com/science/space/news/2008/08/galactic_panspermia Intriguing. WaV

[ot_caving] And I thought David Locklear had tough luck.....

2008-08-07 Thread Don Cooper
This guy's losing his house because of unpaid tickets! http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=779632 Damn Revenuers -Wav

Re: [ot_caving] Avocado Pit Germination

2008-08-04 Thread Don Cooper
Yeah - thanks to all and now I'm waiting. I did the toothpick thing and I figure the best thing is to keep the lowest quarter of the thing wet in the water. One of them is a little less than a quarter in the water. I'm concerned a little that my mode of avocado consumption leaves shallow cuts

[ot_caving] Yes, I already HAVE Googled this MIDI USB problem....

2008-08-04 Thread Don Cooper
And oddly, every thread that appears - seems to have been generated more than a year ago... I take it that someone else out there, who caves, or reads off topic caving posts may also be a closet musician - and possibly also might have some experience controlling music devices with computers

Re: [ot_caving] Anyone want to weigh in on this one?

2008-08-01 Thread Don Cooper
church friends send her SO much crap (and she forwards it to me..) I think that Montauk thing does look something like a cow maybe with a gargoyles head attached. (There is SO much you can do with photoshop!) -Don C (Watching the PTL Club on TV right now - it's so much more entertaining than

Re: [ot_caving] FW: Army Mechanical Mule

2008-07-31 Thread Don Cooper
You think THAT's cool, you ought to see the Swiss Army Mule! It can defend itself with a barrage of attachments including knives, giant corkscrews and can shoot toothpicks 100 yards! -WaV On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:44 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Wow, Fritz! That is one of the coolest

[ot_caving] Avocado Pit Germination

2008-07-31 Thread Don Cooper
Anyone with a knack for growing things? I've gotten a few started over the years, but most of them died before getting roots going and only one out of ten got started at all. Horticulturists, please enlighten me. -WaV

[ot_caving] Energy Prices, Stock Market and wild rides

2008-07-29 Thread Don Cooper
Yesterday the Dow dropped 239 points. Today it climbed a bit more than 266! My little portfolio was up 4.6%. Gold was down 11 bucks! (I'm thinking that means the dollar is worth about 1.2 cents more than yesterday - the dollar climbed 1.02% against the Euro) The price of Texas sweet crude [USO]

Re: [ot_caving] Astronaut: Aliens Are Real

2008-07-28 Thread Don Cooper
Just for the record... and I hope others will chime in as well. I do NOT believe. I think that abundant life is out there, and somewhere there are other creatures pondering the possible existence of us, as well. Yet the physical obstacle of getting from one island of life to another is so

Re: [ot_caving] Chimes Are Real

2008-07-28 Thread Don Cooper
Hey Charles - Is there any way I can post to everyone on OT and EXCLUDE people who are too smart to talk to? -DC On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Gill Ediger gi...@worldnet.att.netwrote: At 06:29 PM 7/28/2008, CaverArch wrote: In a message dated 07/28/08 17:25:12 Central Daylight Time,

Re: [ot_caving] Chimes Are Real

2008-07-28 Thread Don Cooper
If I was into hot air ballooning - I'd bring him along in case I run out of propaneHa! -DC On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgwrote: Heh, nope, but you gotta admit, he certainly has a way with words though. On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Don Cooper

[ot_caving] RE: Here's a fun one - Mammoth Continues

2008-07-25 Thread Don Cooper
better. Mark From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: Fri 7/25/2008 12:36 PM To: David Cc: o...@texascavers.com; Minton, Mark; speleoste...@tx.rr.com; vivb...@att.net Subject: Re: [ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] RE: Here's a fun one

Re: [ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] RE: Here's a fun one

2008-07-25 Thread Don Cooper
When I was a kid, I visited Mammoth with my mom and dad. At the time, old saltpeter mining gear was still in the cave - like vats and wooden pipes. I wonder if that stuff is still there? =WaV On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:58 AM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: This is an interesting thread.

Re: [Texascavers] Einhornhoehle (German show cave)

2008-07-24 Thread Don Cooper
Ah - so unicorns really did exist! :-) -WaV On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Ted Samsel tbsam...@infionline.net wrote: http://www.einhornhoehle.de/Start/x.htm The German hydrogeologist I work with sent me this.. one of her former colleagues is working here now.. T.

[Texascavers] Cave Lighting - the kind you wear

2008-07-22 Thread Don Cooper
StenLight looks great. I'm totally envious of Wes Schumacher's. I think I saw him using it as a bicycle light. Is there a LOCAL (ie. Austin) distributor? I mean, wow, $310 is a lot of cash for some folks. -WaV

[ot_caving] KLRU Program on Flooding

2008-07-22 Thread Don Cooper
I wish everyone could be watching this! I have never realized what a tremendous amount of waste that corporate america (money vested developers) has spent and then gained anew through deception and peoples gullibility through building and rebuilding in 100 year flood plains (which in the New

[ot_caving] Re: KLRU Program on Flooding

2008-07-22 Thread Don Cooper
See: www.floodsafety.org On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com wrote: I wish everyone could be watching this! I have never realized what a tremendous amount of waste that corporate america (money vested developers) has spent and then gained anew through deception

Re: [ot_caving] Re: KLRU Program on Flooding

2008-07-22 Thread Don Cooper
plains, (read every couple years) they build houses by the thousands and the average life expectancy of said houses is less than 4 years cause they're built so cheaply. how do they get away with it? why, bribing the government of course Nico On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Don Cooper

Re: [ot_caving] Gas mileage.

2008-07-21 Thread Don Cooper
Has anyone else suspended their disbelief long enough to look into some of this Water For Fuel business? The last one I looked at talked about 'using your battery to seperate the water into HHO which is THREE times more powerful than gasoline' I mean - I've been told I shoot ideas down before

Re: [ot_caving] Gas mileage.

2008-07-21 Thread Don Cooper
I think this is CRAP, but apparently not everyone thinks so - http://www.gas4freebonus.com/?id=G5888003 -WaV On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone else suspended their disbelief long enough to look into some of this Water For Fuel business?

Re: [Texascavers] gas mileage

2008-07-21 Thread Don Cooper
Rumor has it that Nico Escamilla has become the Texas Caver remailer moderator? -WaV On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com wrote: may I suggest that we take this discussion to the OT list? Nico On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Sam Young

Re: [Texascavers] RE: UV Cave Biology Indicator lighting

2008-07-20 Thread Don Cooper
Well, It is beginning to look like short wave UV is preferable, but not easily created. (Short wave UV LEDs seem to be made from unobtanium.) I've found some good short-wave UV lights, but they do require more exotic materials - as Mark Minton pointed out - and are a lot more expensive and not LED

Re: [Texascavers] RE: UV Cave Biology Indicator lighting

2008-07-20 Thread Don Cooper
, at 11:54 AM, Minton, Mark wrote: Don Cooper said: So a less than ideal direction is probably where I'm heading - trying to find the shortest wave UV LEDs available (350nm?) Those will still be way too long wave for the best fluoescent minerals, unfortunately. does clear

[Texascavers] UV Cave Biology Indicator lighting

2008-07-19 Thread Don Cooper
Is 400 to 405nm a good wavelength for fluorescing cave critters and interesting cave minerals? I'm considering buying 100 5mm UV LEDs off eBay from Hong Kong. They have a operating voltage of 3.2 to 3.6 and come with resistors for ideal current from a 12v source. (100 for a total cost of 12.99.

[Texascavers] [Fuel, Caving NSS]

2008-07-18 Thread Don Arburn
Anyone want a ride to Convention? Don Arburn - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com

[ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices

2008-07-18 Thread Don Cooper
of all US citizens that congress open all accessible areas to environmentally safe drilling. Happy Motoring, as one of the major oil companies used to advertise. Fritz -- *From:* Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, July 18, 2008 12:43 AM

Re: [ot_caving] Anything that Floats competition at OTR

2008-07-17 Thread Don Cooper
water (natural pollutants already exist in the river water; don´t add more to it). Water in balloons cannot be frozen. Limit is 1 dozen balloons and 1 dozen water pistols per ship. * The Admiral may inspect water balloons and water pistols and may disallow any for any reason. Water pistols

Re: [ot_caving] The Drug War

2008-07-17 Thread Don Cooper
I'm less interested in the lost cause of the drug war and just HAVE to know what kind of drugs David Locklear is on?? -WaV On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Scott Nicholson csnichol...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I 'm less interested in the submarine than I am about hallucinogens that are snorted up

Re: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices

2008-07-17 Thread Don Cooper
No - but I would give my left nut to go back to the days that gas was 1.05 a gallon, when I was making only $19.00 an hour with excellent health benefits and rent, including paid utilities were only $500 a month. Basically, you can blame a lot of the current energy situation, worldwide, on

Re: [Texascavers] CWAN ladder?

2008-07-16 Thread Don Arburn
I was there around 1976. Stairs. Don Arburn On Jul 16, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Butch Fralia bfra...@maverickgrotto.org wrote: My first CWAN tour was in April, 1985 with my daughter. The stairway was there then. I remember hearing about the cave from Mrs. Bridges at Cascade Caverns. We

Re: [Texascavers] OT - google groups

2008-07-14 Thread Don Arburn
All hail OZTOTL. Don Arburn On Jul 14, 2008, at 12:52 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: We could always start talking religion again. JUST KIDDING! I’ll be quiet now and go back in my corner. Mark A

Re: [Texascavers] RE: TSA Landfund Idea

2008-07-14 Thread Don Arburn
No arguement from me, as I said just kicking around ideas. Never said it was a GOOD one. Don Arburn Don Arburn said: Kicking around another idea for the dispensation of TSA Landfund monies... I think that would be a totally inappropriate use of land fund money. My two cents. Mark

Re: [Texascavers] RE: TSA Landfund Idea

2008-07-14 Thread Don Arburn
Mustang vs Cayman. Don Arburn On Jul 14, 2008, at 2:22 PM, John Brooks jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Oh come! Argue a bit...say something illusory! Sent from my iPhone - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com

Re: [ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] RE: Music in Caves

2008-07-13 Thread Don Cooper
he has some residual interest in caves, perhaps he would be willing to perform in a cave for some regional gathering of cavers. I don't think the music he produces today would be likely to (literally) bring the house down. -- *From:* Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca

[ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] RE: Music in Caves

2008-07-12 Thread Don Cooper
Ah yes, that would have been Don Van Vliet - otherwise known as Captain Beefheart. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Beefheart They recorded Bongo Fury in 1976 right here in Austin at the World Armadillo Headquarters. -WaV On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:13 PM, RD Milhollin rdmilhol...@charter.net

[Texascavers] [TSA Landfund Idea]

2008-07-12 Thread Don Arburn
Kicking around another idea for the dispensation of TSA Landfund monies... Recently I spoke with Gustavo Vela-Turcott of Mexico, he was a member of a recent trip to Krubera. The only North American to go. He wants to go back, but needs sponsors. While not a TSA member per se, perhaps he

Re: [Texascavers] Journey to the Center of the Earth

2008-07-11 Thread Don Arburn
AGREED! On Jul 11, 2008, at 12:20 PM, mark gee wrote: Maybe us cavers should make our on Movie. Since we all know so much about caves. - Original Message From: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com To: Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com; Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Explore a cave?

2008-07-11 Thread Don Cooper
that's really wierd! Apparently it is above the water table. It otherwise seems that it would fill up with water. -WaV On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote: Mark Minton wrote: I haven't been in it, but there is such a cave right there in Texas. Tarbutton's

Re: [ot_caving] politics / iran / isreal

2008-07-10 Thread Don Cooper
It seems that Washington has its Biblical fundamental ties to Isreal. Washington also has its financial/oil ass-kissing ties to the Saudis. Saudi Arabia is a SUNNI muslim country - which are apparently moderate. Many other of the SHIITE muslim countries are sworn enemies of the US. That's it in a

[ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] Religion is off-topic

2008-07-10 Thread Don Cooper
Why post OT events on the list instead of the OT-list, then? hm? -WaV Keep the earth clean! It's not like it's Uranus! On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Diana Tomchick diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu wrote: This is a gentle reminder that the discussion of religion on this list-serve has

[ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] OT again?

2008-07-10 Thread Don Cooper
It is SO G.D. easy to reply to it on the OT list. I apologize for not having done so. I cannot imagine why others have not either. Its easy enough I guess to just REPLY - after all - someone ELSE started it -WaV On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:15 PM, tra...@oztotl.com wrote: Ok, just the other

Re: [Texascavers] OT again?

2008-07-10 Thread Don Arburn
If you can't say it to someone's face, say it around a campfire or shout it out loud in a crowded airport terminal, don't post it here. Don Arburn On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Stephen Fleming casto...@gmail.com wrote: tra...@oztotl.com wrote: Anyways, I will bet that many reading this have

[ot_caving] Geico Gecko

2008-07-09 Thread Don Cooper
He never had a chance. Not even enough time to try to sell me insurance. I was sprinting up the concrete stairs on my way to get in my car - I didnt even see him. Crushed by my Tevas This unfortunate tiny creature. Only 2 1/2 inches long - broken - some parts flattened - he didn't even know what

[ot_caving] Re: Alaska refinery

2008-07-06 Thread Don Cooper
That is a very good point. I wonder what the closest siesmic stable area there is closest to the port of Prince William Sound? The earthquake that occured back in 1964 (?) was one of the most energetic ever recorded! That will happen again, right? No one can tell when. When I was up there -

Re: [ot_caving] Russia's Gazprom Talks Up European CNG Refuelling Network

2008-07-05 Thread Don Cooper
Well - not TRYING to sound like Locklear, but - I predict CNG and LNG will become important transportation fuels. H4C is just about as plentiful and replenishmental as it gets - It already exists and our wastes readily produce it as well. Millions of pounds of food waste go out to the landfills

[ot_caving] An option to drilling OIL

2008-07-02 Thread Don Cooper
I heard mention of this the other day on Earth and Sky radio programette. It sounds to me like a very fine alternative to importation of crude from the mideast or alchemy of turning coal into oil. Sulfur, I believe, is virtually non-existent in natural gas (well, except maybe for YOUR natural gas)

Re: [ot_caving] Wind energy Texas

2008-07-01 Thread Don Cooper
Tornadoes are random and sporadic events. But, I do wonder if the 1.5 Megawatt state-of-art wind turbine could survive one. - or a hurricane - or those freakish straight line winds that do tornado-like damage. -WaV On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Terry Holsinger tr...@sprynet.com wrote: That

Re: [ot_caving] an option to drilling

2008-06-27 Thread Don Cooper
Hmmm. maybe I need to adjust my slide rule more calculations inevitably will be distributed -WaV On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: And I heard on the news this morning that by 2010, gas will be $7-10/gal.

Re: [ot_caving] Solar grocery roof

2008-06-27 Thread Don Cooper
Well, one of the coolest things about solar panels on the roof: it keeps the roof in the shade! That alone will decrease the amount of energy it takes to cool the building the panels rest upon! That is a savings in itself! -WaV On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 7:38 AM, qui...@clearwire.net wrote: It

Re: [ot_caving] head north of the border Re: [ot_caving] police state news

2008-06-26 Thread Don Cooper
In THIS country - it would seem profit driven. The vice-laws that is. In my opinion, the system victimizes the victim in any way it can. -WaV's .02 On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Nigel Dyson-Hudson n...@cavesar.com wrote: Dave, Now you know what kind of work place you can set-up north of

Re: RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling

2008-06-26 Thread Don Cooper
And LET ME - Not David Locklear this time - make this assertion/prediction: If you think your electric bill is high now - just wait until you charge up your car every night with house current! I will bet that you're looking at a $500 per month increase (above your $200 to $300 per month bill) if

Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-26 Thread Don Cooper
A couple of things about solar panels: 1. They are very very expensive. 2. The current technology seems to only convert Infrared into electricity. Wide spectrum conversion is being done, but only on the panels that go into space - that kind of panel is 10 times more expensive. I know someone that

Re: [Texascavers] The Battle of the Little Big Horn

2008-06-26 Thread Don Cooper
I thoroughly enjoyed the account of that battle in the movie Little Big Man starring (a rather young) Dustin Hoffman. It too was probably historically incorrect - but I imagine it was a fairly close 'personality sketch' of an arrogant and delusional Custer (who reminds me of another person who has

Re: [ot_caving] an option to drilling

2008-06-23 Thread Don Cooper
Interesting concept. Out west - southwest of Houston, out in the sprawling farmland is a Children's Home which was given a large wind-turbine many years ago. It's long since fallen into disrepair and no longer actually generates power. It hasn't in years. But it's still turning. My brother

Re: [ot_caving] an option to drilling

2008-06-22 Thread Don Cooper
What makes ISOLATING hydrogen expensive is the energy cost. (You do not make hydrogen. It is the most abundant element in the universe. Yes, you probably know that anyway) If you consider free energy such as tidal forces - (something that's only just beginning to be harnessed - think 'wind

Re: [ot_caving] crime in the city

2008-06-21 Thread Don Cooper
Tragically funny - the statement about the world in the future being a grim place for my children and my children's children is almost like a self fulfilling prophecy. If more people were truly serious about reducing their footprint - they'd be committed to having no footprints following their

Re: [ot_caving] an option to drilling

2008-06-21 Thread Don Cooper
Here's an idea: What about turning all of that electricity generated by a wind turbine into hydrogen? Right there in the wind turbine itself. Using water and electrolysis. If hydrogen truly is going to be the portable energy source (for fuel cells) would it not make the most sense to produce the

Re: [ot_caving] My solar cell set up

2008-06-20 Thread Don Cooper
a day during the summer. He puts this directly back on to the grid. If you want to ask him any questions, you can reach him at rcoo...@applied-avionics.com. -Don C On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: Very nice Bill, what are the plans for it? On Fri, Jun

[Texascavers] [In case you are interested in the T.C.M.A., don't know already!]

2008-06-20 Thread Don Arburn
. Our membership includes landowners, scientists, land stewards, cavers, school officials, teachers, kids, and parents to name a few. --- Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com 2009 15th International Congress of Speleology Transportation Coordinator NSS# 56822RL

[ot_caving] Re: Canned cave food- Gourmet or gourmand?

2008-06-19 Thread Don Cooper
of gourmand, don't you? Andy Quoting Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com: Andy - I still hold you, your insights, opinions and your abilities, personally, within semi-high esteem, but I will NEVER, EVER consider your opinions or creations or evaluations of food within miles of a gourmand

Re: [Texascavers] cave food - part 3.1

2008-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
On Jun 18, 2008, at 7:09 AM, Ted Samsel wrote: Yum! Burger in a can!! http://gizmodo.com/350091/cheeseburger-in-a-can-is-both-the-best-and-worst-thing-ive-ever-seen T.. a review with pictures: http://thesiblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/canned-hamburger-pics-and-review.html

Re: [ot_caving] sex and marriage

2008-06-18 Thread Don Cooper
DAVE just STFU! On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 11:17 AM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: I have questions for all the people that support gay marriage. What is the fundamental moral conflict with the difference between 2 men marrying each other, and 3 men marrying each other? Or between 2

Re: [Texascavers] Canned cave food - part 3.2

2008-06-18 Thread Don Cooper
Andy - I still hold you, your insights, opinions and your abilities, personally, within semi-high esteem, but I will NEVER, EVER consider your opinions or creations or evaluations of food within miles of a gourmand... -WaV On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Andy Gluesenkamp a...@gluesenkamp.com

[Texascavers] cave food - part 4 The Next Level

2008-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
Food for Cave Men (there, I'm on topic) These are for you Joe http://www.thesneeze.com/mt-archives/cat_steve_dont_eat_it.php - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [ot_caving] computer news

2008-06-16 Thread Don Cooper
Geez Charles - What kind of games take so much video co-possessing power? I'd think it would take a whole lot less hardware to support very smooth display and accurate response of the very best flight simulators! -DC On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote:

Re: [ot_caving] Bio fuels and the pump....

2008-06-15 Thread Don Cooper
I've heard gasoline prices in the UK are about 8$ /gal - most of that being tax revenue for the government. (How it's being spent appears to be a matter of speculation and distrust among the British public.) (The sign that goes with the BBC news article would suggest a Biodiesel price of US $8.92

[ot_caving] David Locklear - please help with the following market research

2008-06-13 Thread Don Cooper
As you frequently seem to have a lot to say about flat-panel LCD units at ridiculous price points - How about some info that I might really find useful for a change? What's the largest units that you can find for $600? -WaV

Re: [ot_caving] Noah's Ark and Iowa

2008-06-12 Thread Don Cooper
Get back to work, David On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:22 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: With all the flooding going on in Iowa, now would be a good time to test the Noah's Ark Theory. If Noah could build a boat all by himself, and at the same time find all the animals in the world

[Texascavers] Bat Flight making its way south down Burleson Rd

2008-06-08 Thread Don Cooper
Where I'm at - I'm probably only about four miles south of Downtown Austin. This evening right after sunset - I saw a intermittent stream of a bats cruising just above the treetops - right over my place and the huge oaks in the yard. There were thousands and thousands of them. I'm assuming they

Re: [Texascavers] RE: which truck spare parts to take to Mexico?

2008-06-08 Thread Don Cooper
Yeah - after the Edigre details - I really don't have nuttin' to add Don't forget the WD-40 - that stuff makes excellent hand cleaner. -WaV On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Carl Kunath carl.kun...@suddenlink.net wrote: Mark's comments are a good start. For a more detailed essay, see:

Re: [ot_caving] political question

2008-06-05 Thread Don Cooper
Answer: The Stark Fist of Removal. Praise Bob! -WaV http://www.subgenius.com/ On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:39 AM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: What is to stop Hillary from running for president as a 3rd party candidate?

Re: [ot_caving] world news

2008-06-05 Thread Don Cooper
Indeed. Nostradumbass wrote that the used dress worn by Sarah Jessica Parker is the fifth horseman of the apocalypse. -WaV On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:02 AM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: It sometimes seems by the world news that everything is in chaos. Now the world must deal with the

Re: [ot_caving] French news

2008-06-05 Thread Don Cooper
Here is your answer: Read every bit of it or you will allways be the same: http://www.subgenius.com/pams/pam2p1.html -WaV On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:06 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: Have you heard the news about the French court annulling a muslim marriage because the girl lied about

Re: [ot_caving] interesting uninsured drivers

2008-06-03 Thread Don Cooper
Finally - The news WAS that it would be implemented on Jan 1st. When I got in a major fender bender back in March I couldn't find a current copy of my insurance proof card. They gave me a ticket, but was able to contest it without going to court by taking my insurance evidence to the nearest city

[ot_caving] Unbelievable durabilty - LG VX4500

2008-05-30 Thread Don Cooper
The cell phone that I dunked in town lake last month just endured something I can hardly believe. I put a load of clothes in the washer while I went out to wash my car - when I put the wet clothes in the dryer I noticed one hell of a thump thump thump noise from the dryer. It turned out to be my

Re: [ot_caving] Insulin - please respond quickly

2008-05-29 Thread Don Cooper
PS - I went through several of the kits today. I do no think any of them still contain insulin nor syringes. It was only what was printed on the boxes that caused me to think they contained humulin, etc. On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: You might

Re: [ot_caving] computer news - Vista related

2008-05-29 Thread Don Cooper
is based on BSD UNIX, and using the UNIX file security, it should be pretty virus proof. Charles On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm - maybe you should try Apple OS X.. -WaV On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:58 PM, qui...@clearwire.net wrote: Vista

Re: [ot_caving] computer news - Vista related

2008-05-29 Thread Don Cooper
environment (yet for most of the time - I'm SO enjoying watching streaming video of The Office and Lost on the 'fast desktop') - but other investments have priority. -WaV In the time of Chimpanzees I was a Monkey On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: Don

Re: [ot_caving] helmet technology

2008-05-28 Thread Don Cooper
Hear the crickets, David. HEAR the crickets. -WaV On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:31 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: Is anybody still on this listserve? Sure is quiet out there. Hopefully you are all in a cave and not reading this e-mail. It is my opinion that caving helmets still

Re: [ot_caving] computer news - Vista related

2008-05-28 Thread Don Cooper
Hmmm - maybe you should try Apple OS X.. -WaV On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:58 PM, qui...@clearwire.net wrote: Vista was loaded on a computer I bought ( the old clunker died) and I was not sure I would like it but I would not go back to XP now. Quinta

[ot_caving] Insulin - please respond quickly

2008-05-27 Thread Don Cooper
I've seen diabetics keep their insulin in the refrigerator. While dumpster diving we recently came across a bunch of sealed humulin samples, injectors and needles from an apparently closed down clinic. Having not been refrigerated, would this stuff be of any use to anyone who uses insulin -WaV

Re: [ot_caving] Insulin - please respond quickly

2008-05-27 Thread Don Cooper
I don't use insulin and CERTAINLY wouldnt use this. The insulin is in sample kits distributed by Lilly. -DC PS - Ms. Powers - Have you complained to windows hotmail live? I tried to respond to your message privately - but recieved this: This is an automatically generated Delivery Status

Re: [ot_caving] gas supply and demand

2008-05-23 Thread Don Cooper
Yes, it is indeed do-able. All you need are vehicles with diesel engines, some vats, chemicals and pumps to take out all the glycerin and impurities and filter it all out. It is quite an effective way to go as long as you've got local restraunts agreeable to waste oil take out. -WaV On Fri, May

Re: [ot_caving] gas supply and demand

2008-05-23 Thread Don Cooper
-- *From:* Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2008 3:17 PM *To:* mark.al...@l-3com.com; Don Cooper *Cc:* David; o...@texascavers.com *Subject:* RE: [ot_caving] gas supply and demand Even worse, there was a story on the news the other night talking about how

Re: [ot_caving] job opportunity

2008-05-22 Thread Don Cooper
Are you trying to impress us, David? Just a mere $28 an hour? I know people that make less than that and drive *new *speleo gas guzzling hybrid vehicles! -DC On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:56 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: The company I work for is accepting applications for someone with

Re: [ot_caving] gas prices

2008-05-21 Thread Don Cooper
Another thing which ISNT being done You can make petroleum out of COAL for about $40 a barrel. Screw ethanol and making diesel out of soybeans! There's a LOT of coal out there - why are we being raped at the gas pump?!?! And while you probably cannot directly pin the world price of oil on

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