Re: Choosing among multiple intra-area ASBR routers [7:5416]

2001-05-23 Thread Erick B.

No problem. I don't have that reference but let me try
to explain. I've had a long day and am beat - this is
a quick response. 

The book description you describe and quote sounds
correct. The lowest cost route will be prefered when
inter-area routes are used. If the same route exists
but is an intra-area route then that will be used over
the inter-area route. For intra-area routes lowest
cost route is prefered as well. 

In the example you gave, the route you have listed is
an External type 2 route which is neither intra-area
or inter-area so it has different rules. 

I think you may be getting yourself confused. Set up a
lab with no ASBR's/redistribution like below.

  e0---R1---e1
   | |
  R2---e2R3

R1 e0 and e1 are in area 0.
R2 e0 and R3 e1 is in area 0.
R2 and R3 e2 is in area 1.

R1 and R2 link, set cost to 10.
R1 and R3 link, set cost to 10. 
R2 and R3 link, set cost to 300.

Put some loopbacks on R2 and R3 and put them in area 1
and put some in area 1.

Look at your OSPF database after everything has come
up, etc. You should see that to get R2's area 1
loopback from a Area 1 R3 address it will go over e2
instead of going through area 0. This is because
intra-area routes are prefered. Now, if you were to
ping from a network in area 0 on R3 then it will go
through R1 then to R2 because it is inter-area.

--- Jaeheon Yoo  wrote:
 Hi, Erick
 
 Thanks for your kind reply again.
 But it is a different story.
 I guess I know what you're trying to say.
 Have you really read the page 175 yourself.
 If you read it, you would know what I'm curious
 about.
 
 This is about multiple intra-area paths to ASBR.
 
 Please refer to OSPF Complete Implementation,
 p.223
 
 It says that:
 ... , paths through nonbackbone areas area
 preferred over paths
 through the backbone area 0.0.0.0. When multiple
 preferred paths are
 available, the one with the smallest cost is used.
 
 But in Cisco routers with IOS 12.0, we have
 different result.
 it seems to conform to rfc 1583.
 
 Hope somebody can clarify this for me.
 
 Regards,
 Jaeheon
 
 
 On 22 May 2001 08:55:46 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Erick B.) wrote:
 
 Did you get my response to your original post?
 
 The route on r2 is a E2 route so it is not
 intra-area,
 but a externally learned route so different rules
 come
 into play. With external routes, there is a
 forwarding
 address (next-hop value) of the lowest cost route
 to
 that destination. Look at the RFC again - pages
 23-25
 or so, the section dealing with external routes.
 They
 explain it there well and have an example. 
 
 --- Jaeheon Yoo  wrote:
  Hi, all
  According to rfc2328. p.175, when we have
 multiple
  intra-area paths to
  ASBR,a intra-area path using non-backbone area
  should be chosen over
  one using backbone area.
  But I always have opposite result. doesn't
 Cisco's
  implementation yet
  conform to rfc2328 in this respect?
  
  Here's from my cisco 2501 router.
  
  r2#sh ip ospf data
 

-omitted
 Type-5 AS External Link States
  
  Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq# 
   
Checksum Tag
  131.108.0.0 192.168.40.3324
  0x8003 0xE930   0
  r2#
  r2#sh ip ospf border
  
  OSPF Process 10 internal Routing Table
  
  Codes: i - Intra-area route, I - Inter-area route
  
  i 192.168.40.3 [74] via 172.16.2.2, Serial0,
  ABR/ASBR, Area 0, SPF 7
  i 192.168.40.3 [1562] via 172.16.30.33, Serial1,
  ABR/ASBR, Area 6, SPF
  5
  
  r2#sh ip route
  -omitted
  O E2 131.108.0.0/16 [110/20] via 172.16.2.2,
  00:03:38, Serial0
  r2#
  
  Could somebody explain this to me?
  Thanks in advance.
 
 
 
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Re: how to enlarge Switching Backplane of 6509 [7:5487]

2001-05-23 Thread frank

but a cisco engineer told me i should just use one .
for why upgrade to 256G,the customer is god ,he wants to pay ,i don't
care.^_^
According to the following ,it seems if we use 2 sfm,just one is active
,another is not.

The following is from cisco website.

128-Gbps Switch Fabric Module. The Switch Fabric Module requires Supervisor
Engine 2. Switch Fabric Modules must be installed in either slot 5 or 6 of
the Catalyst 6500 series switches. For redundancy, you can install a second
Switch Fabric Module. The Switch Fabric Module first installed functions as
the primary module. When two modules are installed at the same time, the
module in slot 5 functions as the primary module, and the module installed
in slot 6 functions as the backup. If you reset the Switch Fabric Module
installed in slot 5, the module in slot 6 becomes the active one.
v
Chuck Larrieu  wrote in message
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 Takes two to get 256

 Takes slots 5  6, making your 6509 a 6507 ;-

 Idle curiosity - why do you need a 256 gig back plane? Assuming all seven
of
 the other slots each contain the 16 port Gig E blades, and each port was
 going full duplex, that comes out to 224 gigs, according to my fingers. Oh
 yeah, through in the two Gig E ports on the sup module, and that gets to
 226.

 I am still trying to figure how you can move that much data, given the way
 networks normally work. ;-

 Chuck

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 frank
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 8:53 PM
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 Subject: Re: how to enlarge Switching Backplane of 6509 [7:5487]

 do i need one or two 128G Switch Fabric Module?

 dave mauro  wrote in message
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  Don't expect to find this spelled out clearly anywhere on CCO, but to
the
  best of my knowledge, you must have:
 
  1. Supervisor Engine 2 (with PFC2)
  2. MSFC2
  3. 128G Switch Fabric Module
  4. 16-port GE module (WS-X6516-GBIC or WS-X6816-GBIC)
  5. Distributed Forwarding Card (DFC)
 
  Until recently this last piece has not been available...
 
  Search CCO for details on these fine products.  Bring your wallet.
 
  Dave
 
 
  On Tue, 22 May 2001, frank wrote:
  
   from 32G to 256G?
  
   Thanks
  
  
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Re: How to Multiplex 3 T1s [7:4625]

2001-05-23 Thread Erick B.

I didn't see my original reply come through.

How about using multilink-group # under the interfaces
to bind them to a multilink interface?

Example:

int multilink1
 ip address ...
 encaps ppp
 ppp multilink
   ...
int s1
  multilink-group 1
int s2
  multilink-group 1
int s3
  multilink-group 1

As for PVCs and Frame Relay, haven't tried the above
method. But have done PPP over Frame Relay and
combined multiple PPP over Frame circuits into 1
multilink virtual template. It worked but I did it in
lab just to see if it could be done. 

multilink-group doesn't work on DDR interfaces, this
was 12.1(5)T when the feature was introduced. It may
have changed since.

--- Kelly D Griffin  wrote:
 Has anyone done this successfully and shown an
 increase in bandwidth?  Has
 anyone done this with PVCs on the same router and
 frame port?
 
 Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA
 Network Engineer
 Kg2 Network Design
 877.418.4025
 http://www.kg2.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Wojtek Zlobicki 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:54 PM
 Subject: Re: How to Multiplex 3 T1s [7:4625]
 
 
  What is to be gained by using an inverse mux ? 
 How much extra overhead is
  caused by this rather than running in inversed
 mode?
 
 
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   Take a look at this config and see if it work
 for you:
   http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/131/7.html
  
  
   -Original Message-
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   Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 8:57 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: How to Multiplex 3 T1s [7:4625]
  
  
   Colleagues,
  
   I am currently trying to multiplex / bind 3
 parallel T1 clear channel
   circuits.
   The circuits will be terminating on a 7206
 router on an 8 port multi
   channel T1 card.
  
   My question is how do I bind the 3 T1s together
 to get the total
 aggregate
   bandwidth of 3 T1s.
   I have only found info on Inverse multiplexing
 for ATM which is not what
 I
   am trying to achieve.
   what I have is strictly 3 Point to Point T1
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GEC ON TWO 6509s [7:5525]

2001-05-23 Thread frank

if i want to connect 2 6509 by 4G GEC ,IS there any difference by using
4 uplink GE port or 4 GE port on GE MODULE?and could i use 2 uplink port
to connect 2 GE port on another 6509?that is uplink1GE1 ,uplink2GE2
Is there any difference between uplink GE port and GE port on GE MODULE?


Thanks,

Frank




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UNSUBSCRIBE [7:5526]

2001-05-23 Thread Nizamettin Meral

PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME!!!




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Funny problems with debug [7:5527]

2001-05-23 Thread NRF

When I use debug in my lab, sometimes the router just stops debugging.  For
example, it may be debugging fine for awhile.  Then, all of a sudden, it
will just stop debugging.  The router is still alive, as I am perfectly able
to type in commands, change things around, etc.  It just no longer produces
debug information.  It's happened to me on both the console and telnet (and
I have typed term mon about a billion times).  I type show debug, and it
shows that debugging is on.  But there is no output.

 I even type debug all  (it's not a production router), and still get no
output which is ridiculous because I'm running a bunch of routing protocols
on the router.  Like I said, the router doesn't die after I type debug all
(because it is very lightly loaded), as I am perfectly able to type in
config commands and show commands.  It just does not produce any debug
output.  Nor does clear logging help.

The only thing that I have found that helps is to reboot the router.  Then,
I can put in some debug commands, and debug output will be created.  And
then of course, after some time, the router will just stop debugging, and I
have to reboot it again.

So, anybody know what is up with that?  I am using 12.0(17).




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could a bgp reflector also be a client? [7:5528]

2001-05-23 Thread frank

because bgp can have multiple levels of router-reflector according to cisco.


Thanks,

Frank




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Re: share Ethernet [7:5368]

2001-05-23 Thread md. nazri

thanks for your reply
is it possible for a unix server to have two gateways..?
- Original Message -
From: Hire, Ejay 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:05 PM
Subject: RE: share Ethernet [7:5368]


 If I'm understanding you correctly, you have a server on the same Ethernet
 segment as two routers, and you want to know which one should be set as
the
 default gateway for the server.

 Easy-Answer:
 The default gateway should be set to the router that services the maximum
 number of destinations in the minimum number of hops.  I.e., If RouterA
 services a 30 location frame network, and RouterB only services a single
t1,
 you would use RouterA as the Default gateway.  Why?  Because you would
have
 the least number of hops for a maximum number of sites.

 Slightly-More-Difficult-but-better-answer:
 Both!  Run HSRP on both routers, which will create a single virtual router
 that is maintained even if one of the routers fails.  Your server will
 maintain connectivity to available sites even if one of the routers fails.

 Good luck, search Cisco.com for HSRP

 Ejay Hire


 -Original Message-
 From: md. nazri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:24 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Fw: share ethernet [7:5368]


  hi all,
  i got 2 routers sharing the same ethernet...both ether should active at
 the
  same time(so i think hsrp not meaningful) with each ether have different
 ip
  address with same subnet. Server on LAN should point to one particular
  ip(can it be two..?)...how do i achieve that...??  pls help
 
  tq
 
  rgds
  nazri
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RE: could a bgp reflector also be a client? [7:5528]

2001-05-23 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Sure. Why not?

The configuration on the route reflector is:

Router bgp x
Neighbor a.b.c.d route-reflector-client

There is no configuration on the client

The whole idea of the RR is to eliminate the necessity for having full mesh.
So you can indeed have:

RR1
   / \
 / \
RR/C RRC
  /  \
/   \
RRCRRC

Etc

Just what the doctor ordered!

Chuck


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Subject:could a bgp reflector also be a client? [7:5528]

because bgp can have multiple levels of router-reflector according to cisco.


Thanks,

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Re: DLSw+/Source-Route Bridging etc... [7:5497]

2001-05-23 Thread EA Louie

are usually much more accurate and verbose  ;-)

LAT stands for Local Area Transport, a DEC protocol (as indicated). It is
used for communication between a terminal server and a DEC host over a Local
Area Network.  It is bridgeable only (unless encapsulated by TCP/IP).

Kareem - What kind of breakdown of differences do you want for those 5
bridging protocols?  Rossi's Token Ring White Paper at
http://www.ccprep.com/resources/news/archives/Token_Ring2.pdf
gives a pretty short, concise treatment of SRB, DLSw, RSRB, SR/TLB, AND SRT
(Source Route Transparent bridging)

-e-

- Original Message -
From: ElephantChild 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: DLSw+/Source-Route Bridging etc... [7:5497]


 On Tue, 22 May 2001, Kareem Jones wrote:

  Can anyone break down the differences between Source-Route Bridging,
DLSw+,
  Transparent Bridging, Remote Source-Route Bridging, and Source-Route
  Translational Bridging?

 Have you looked at Internetworking Technology Overview, by the fine
 folks at cisco? It's available online for the price of the Internet
 connection that you appear to have already.

  Also can someone tell me what does LAT mean? And what is it used for?

 Local Area (mumble) (Terminal?) It's terminal emulation for Decnet,
 IIRC.

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OT: Well-known ports page moved [7:5530]

2001-05-23 Thread Jason Roysdon

Had to update my bookmark (good for anyone learning to configure firewalls):

http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/port-numbers


The Port Numbers registry has moved to the
following:



For all registries, please see the following:

http://www.iana.org/numbers.htm


Updated May 11 2001


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Re: TCP/IP host config [7:5508]

2001-05-23 Thread EA Louie

ahhh, troubleshooting!

Win95 --- 2501-1 -- 2501-2  Win98
  EthserialEth

First, is that the configuration?

Second, are you pinging from 2501-1?

If so, then do you have IP addresses on the serial interfaces of 2501-1 and
2501-2?

If so, are they in the same subnet with the same mask? (are the interfaces
showing up/up)?  If not, then fix

If so, do you have a route to the network represented by eth0 of 2501-2?  If
not, then fix

If so, does the Win98 PC have the ip address of 2501-2 eth0 as its default
gateway?

the joys of troubleshooting!  

-e-

- Original Message -
From: Fanglo MA 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: TCP/IP host config [7:5508]


 Please check all your route tables. You should get the answer.

 HTH
 Fanglo

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  Let me be more specific.
 
  I have two 2501s and a host for each one.  I can ping in one direction
to
 a
  host(Win95) but in the other direction to the second host(Win98),
  it cannot be pinged or telnetted. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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RE: how to enlarge Switching Backplane of 6509 [7:5487]

2001-05-23 Thread Chuck Larrieu

It's always fun to have one of these discussions, especially when I could be
sleeping. This one seems to be turning into yet another of those what is
truth? questions. When dealing with Cisco, it is sometimes difficult to
tell.

The following link would appear to say something other than what you have
quoted. Granted, mine is a quick skim. But it does seem to state that one
SFM card provides 256G and the other is for redundancy.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca6000/prodlit/c6sfm_ds.htm

notice that later in the link, Cisco starts talking bout packets per second
( PPS ) If you add the MSFC card you get 30mpps and if you add the DCF card
on top of that you get 100mpps.  I bring this up because I had a
conversation off line with someone about needing the MSFC and DCF in order
to get the 256G backplane. Cisco's own configuration tool indicates no. The
person with whom I was discussing this indicated he has done a lot of
research and his finding was yes. My own reading tells me that if I were an
EE I might actually understand the link a bit better, and perhaps it would
make more sense. As is stands, I am perceiving it as a lot of double-talk.

This next link is where you, Frank, may have gotten your quote about the
failover.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/sft_6_1/configgd
/swfab.htm#xtocid223541

I just opened NetformX, the configuration tool my boss paid a LOT of money
for me to use in my design work. Once again I can't prove that I ever saw
the SFM card described as 128G, and now it appears that the one card is
indeed 256G.  Serves  me right for not checking this stuff every hour of
every day :-

Chuck



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frank
Sent:   Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:37 PM
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Subject:Re: how to enlarge Switching Backplane of 6509 [7:5487]

but a cisco engineer told me i should just use one .
for why upgrade to 256G,the customer is god ,he wants to pay ,i don't
care.^_^
According to the following ,it seems if we use 2 sfm,just one is active
,another is not.

The following is from cisco website.

128-Gbps Switch Fabric Module. The Switch Fabric Module requires Supervisor
Engine 2. Switch Fabric Modules must be installed in either slot 5 or 6 of
the Catalyst 6500 series switches. For redundancy, you can install a second
Switch Fabric Module. The Switch Fabric Module first installed functions as
the primary module. When two modules are installed at the same time, the
module in slot 5 functions as the primary module, and the module installed
in slot 6 functions as the backup. If you reset the Switch Fabric Module
installed in slot 5, the module in slot 6 becomes the active one.
v
Chuck Larrieu  wrote in message
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 Takes two to get 256

 Takes slots 5  6, making your 6509 a 6507 ;-

 Idle curiosity - why do you need a 256 gig back plane? Assuming all seven
of
 the other slots each contain the 16 port Gig E blades, and each port was
 going full duplex, that comes out to 224 gigs, according to my fingers. Oh
 yeah, through in the two Gig E ports on the sup module, and that gets to
 226.

 I am still trying to figure how you can move that much data, given the way
 networks normally work. ;-

 Chuck

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 Subject: Re: how to enlarge Switching Backplane of 6509 [7:5487]

 do i need one or two 128G Switch Fabric Module?

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  Don't expect to find this spelled out clearly anywhere on CCO, but to
the
  best of my knowledge, you must have:
 
  1. Supervisor Engine 2 (with PFC2)
  2. MSFC2
  3. 128G Switch Fabric Module
  4. 16-port GE module (WS-X6516-GBIC or WS-X6816-GBIC)
  5. Distributed Forwarding Card (DFC)
 
  Until recently this last piece has not been available...
 
  Search CCO for details on these fine products.  Bring your wallet.
 
  Dave
 
 
  On Tue, 22 May 2001, frank wrote:
  
   from 32G to 256G?
  
   Thanks
  
  
   Frank
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Re: Funny problems with debug [7:5527]

2001-05-23 Thread EA Louie

sounds like you have a buggy router.  I'd try an IOS change to see if that
helped - I don't know what bugs 12.0(17) had, but I can't imagine that was
one of them...

-e-

- Original Message -
From: NRF 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:08 AM
Subject: Funny problems with debug [7:5527]


 When I use debug in my lab, sometimes the router just stops debugging.
For
 example, it may be debugging fine for awhile.  Then, all of a sudden, it
 will just stop debugging.  The router is still alive, as I am perfectly
able
 to type in commands, change things around, etc.  It just no longer
produces
 debug information.  It's happened to me on both the console and telnet
(and
 I have typed term mon about a billion times).  I type show debug, and it
 shows that debugging is on.  But there is no output.

  I even type debug all  (it's not a production router), and still get no
 output which is ridiculous because I'm running a bunch of routing
protocols
 on the router.  Like I said, the router doesn't die after I type debug all
 (because it is very lightly loaded), as I am perfectly able to type in
 config commands and show commands.  It just does not produce any debug
 output.  Nor does clear logging help.

 The only thing that I have found that helps is to reboot the router.
Then,
 I can put in some debug commands, and debug output will be created.  And
 then of course, after some time, the router will just stop debugging, and
I
 have to reboot it again.

 So, anybody know what is up with that?  I am using 12.0(17).
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Multiple ISP Leased Line [7:5536]

2001-05-23 Thread imran obaidullah

Hi friends,

WEBSEVER--FIREWALL---(E0)ROUTER1(S0)-(S0)ROUTER2(ISP1)--INTERNET
 |
 |
(S1)-(S0)ROUTER3(ISP2)--INTERNET

I have Webserver which is NATed with the Valid IP from ISP1 and has DNS 
entry at the ISP1 site.

If the user is trying to access the webserver from the net, he will goto 
ISP1 and from there he will reach the webserver.

If the Link btn ISP1 and ROUTER1(S0) goes down, how the user will access the 
websrever from the net. I know I cannot have multiple DNS entry for the same 
hostname even with multiple ISP.

My objective is the User should still access the net through redundant ISP 
link.

Is there any solution for this.

regards
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Re: Funny problems with debug [7:5527]

2001-05-23 Thread NRF

I see the same problem is also happening with 12.0(14)





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 sounds like you have a buggy router.  I'd try an IOS change to see if that
 helped - I don't know what bugs 12.0(17) had, but I can't imagine that was
 one of them...

 -e-

 - Original Message -
 From: NRF
 To:
 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:08 AM
 Subject: Funny problems with debug [7:5527]


  When I use debug in my lab, sometimes the router just stops debugging.
 For
  example, it may be debugging fine for awhile.  Then, all of a sudden, it
  will just stop debugging.  The router is still alive, as I am perfectly
 able
  to type in commands, change things around, etc.  It just no longer
 produces
  debug information.  It's happened to me on both the console and telnet
 (and
  I have typed term mon about a billion times).  I type show debug, and it
  shows that debugging is on.  But there is no output.
 
   I even type debug all  (it's not a production router), and still get
no
  output which is ridiculous because I'm running a bunch of routing
 protocols
  on the router.  Like I said, the router doesn't die after I type debug
all
  (because it is very lightly loaded), as I am perfectly able to type in
  config commands and show commands.  It just does not produce any debug
  output.  Nor does clear logging help.
 
  The only thing that I have found that helps is to reboot the router.
 Then,
  I can put in some debug commands, and debug output will be created.  And
  then of course, after some time, the router will just stop debugging,
and
 I
  have to reboot it again.
 
  So, anybody know what is up with that?  I am using 12.0(17).
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Re: share Ethernet [7:5368]

2001-05-23 Thread Robert Nelson-Cox


thanks for your reply
is it possible for a unix server to have two gateways..?

If it's Un*x, why not just run RouteD or GateD, and include your Un*x as 
another routing host?

Rob./

- Original Message -
From: Hire, Ejay
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:05 PM
Subject: RE: share Ethernet [7:5368]


  If I'm understanding you correctly, you have a server on the same 
Ethernet
  segment as two routers, and you want to know which one should be set as
the
  default gateway for the server.
 
  Easy-Answer:
  The default gateway should be set to the router that services the 
maximum
  number of destinations in the minimum number of hops.  I.e., If RouterA
  services a 30 location frame network, and RouterB only services a single
t1,
  you would use RouterA as the Default gateway.  Why?  Because you would
have
  the least number of hops for a maximum number of sites.
 
  Slightly-More-Difficult-but-better-answer:
  Both!  Run HSRP on both routers, which will create a single virtual 
router
  that is maintained even if one of the routers fails.  Your server will
  maintain connectivity to available sites even if one of the routers 
fails.
 
  Good luck, search Cisco.com for HSRP
 
  Ejay Hire
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: md. nazri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:24 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Fw: share ethernet [7:5368]
 
 
   hi all,
   i got 2 routers sharing the same ethernet...both ether should active 
at
  the
   same time(so i think hsrp not meaningful) with each ether have 
different
  ip
   address with same subnet. Server on LAN should point to one particular
   ip(can it be two..?)...how do i achieve that...??  pls help
  
   tq
  
   rgds
   nazri
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Re: BCRAN [7:5498]

2001-05-23 Thread Patrick Donlon

I passed the Remote Access exam last Thursday, expect some Framely relay,
X25, and ISDN of course. I had a lot of questions where I had to choose a
command from a list of commands, including some non existant ones, such as
how do I map an IP address to an ISDN number. I used the Cisco Press book
and it's practice exam and the isdn router cim and didn't find it difficult,

good luck

Pat

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 I am just new to the group.  Can anyone please tell me what to expect in
the
 BCRAN exam?  I am taking it next week and any tips and tricks will be
muchly
 appreciated.

 Thanks,
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Re: Problems with a 3620 voice router [7:5500]

2001-05-23 Thread Patrick Donlon

Tony's right use the T versions, I'd recommend 12.1.8T for voice, 12.1.5T
has been deferred and has a number of problems

regards
Pat

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 Hey all- just picked up as 3620 router with 2 Serial/ 2 Ethernet/  NMHDV
 (VIC
 1MFT-T1).  The issue I am having is this...  the voice module, actually
 nothing voice shows on the boot-up.  It's almost as if the interface in
not
 installed.  I have tried upgrading the IOS (12.1(8) IP/H323).  The module
 looks fine too, no burn smell.  Any ideas ???

 Router# Show Version
 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-IX-M), Version 12.1(8), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
 Copyright (c) 1986-2001 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Mon 16-Apr-01 18:54 by kellythw
 Image text-base: 0x60008940, data-base: 0x60A18000

 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(20)AA2, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE
SOFTWARE
 (f
 c1)

 Router uptime is 4 minutes
 System returned to ROM by reload
 System image file is flash:c3620-ix-mz.121-8.bin

 cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with 28672K/4096K bytes of
 memory.
 Processor board ID 14825930
 R4700 CPU at 80Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0
 Bridging software.
 X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
 2 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
 2 Serial network interface(s)
 DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity disabled.
 29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
 8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

 Configuration register is 0x2102

 Thanks in advance !!!
 Phil
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Re: field certified professional association [7:5509]

2001-05-23 Thread hal9001

Nortel just added a Nortel Networks Certified Field Specialist (NNCFS) to
their line up.

Karl
- Original Message -
From: Mohanty, Amit 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 6:21 AM
Subject: RE: field certified professional association [7:5509]


 Hi Jennifer,
 I think they dont have anything in Cisco beyond CCNA. Did I miss out any
 thing in the site?
 Monty.

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 Subject: field certified professional association [7:5509]


 I came across this in a Brainbuzz newsletter. They are an organisation
 for the  development, promotion, and implementation of performance based
 IT testing  - Field Certification (Trade Mark).

 Cisco, Red Hat and Novell staff are on the steering committee. It looks
 like the aim is to have a hands-on component to the CCNA and CCNP
 certifications eventually.

 http://www.fieldcertification.org/index.htm

 Jenny Margrison
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RE: How do I set up Windows DHCP for multiple VLANS? [7:5490]

2001-05-23 Thread Bishara, Anan

You can do that easily. I am serving 50 Vlans with one DHCP server. Use the
Ip helper command on your interface to point to the DHCP server and
configure all the scopes on the DHCP server and it will work fine. 

Regards,
Anan

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: How do I set up Windows DHCP for multiple VLANS? [7:5490]


i'm supporting w2k network with 3 vlan 
once i have my dhcp server down in one of the vlan, and the clients still
can get addresses from dhcp server on another vlan. means it is possible to
serve multiple vlan with 1 dhcp server.

please correct me if i am wrong. 
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RE: Multiple ISP Leased Line [7:5536]

2001-05-23 Thread Charles Manafa

What is the purpose of ISP2 if it can not route your address space. Do you
have 2 ISP assigned address space? Who's hosting your secondary DNS?

CM

 -Original Message-
 From: imran obaidullah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 23 May 2001 09:09
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Multiple ISP Leased Line [7:5536]
 
 
 Hi friends,
 
 WEBSEVER--FIREWALL---(E0)ROUTER1(S0)-(S0)ROUTER2(ISP1)
 --INTERNET
  |
  |
 
 (S1)-(S0)ROUTER3(ISP2)--INTERNET
 
 I have Webserver which is NATed with the Valid IP from ISP1 
 and has DNS 
 entry at the ISP1 site.
 
 If the user is trying to access the webserver from the net, 
 he will goto 
 ISP1 and from there he will reach the webserver.
 
 If the Link btn ISP1 and ROUTER1(S0) goes down, how the user 
 will access the 
 websrever from the net. I know I cannot have multiple DNS 
 entry for the same 
 hostname even with multiple ISP.
 
 My objective is the User should still access the net through 
 redundant ISP 
 link.
 
 Is there any solution for this.
 
 regards
 imran
 
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MAC address of interfaces in PIX 515R [7:5544]

2001-05-23 Thread Sean Graham

Hi, I am in the process of setting up a PIX515 for use with a cable modem.
The provider DHCP's the address to the clients. I want to use the PIX to
connect to the modem but the ISP secure the DHCP request by MAC address of
the interface. I have to inform them what it is before it will lease the new
IP address. What is the easiest way to find out the MAC address of the
Ethernet interfaces in the PIX. I can't see an obvious command.

Many thanks,

Sean




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RE: OSPF process ID [7:5436]

2001-05-23 Thread Mechbal, Hind (MED-DEVOTEAM)

thanks for answering, this is because I'm using a 1600 router, I need to
have an image to run OSPF


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Subject: Re: OSPF process ID [7:5436]


Depends on which image you are using and on which platform.

Do router ? and see what protocols it allows.

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- Original Message -
From: Mechbal, Hind (MED-DEVOTEAM) 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 7:24 AM
Subject: OSPF process ID [7:5436]


 I tried to enable ospf on a router by given the process ID 1:
 router ospf 1
 I obtain the error :
 Unknown routing protocol

 the IOS version that I am usig is : 11.1

 does any body know why ?
 Thanks
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Can I have a 2600 T-1 WIC bound to a Dialer interface? [7:5546]

2001-05-23 Thread NRF

Consider this.  I have 2 2610's, each with a WIC-1DSU T-1 card in them.  I
have these T-1's connected back to back.  I have tried putting IP addreses,
using encap ppp, and everything works cool, exactly the way I would expect
it to work.  So I know the cards and the cable and all that are working
fine.

Now, I want to try to have the T-1 interfaces invoked via Dialer interfaces.
Why?  Because eventually I want to get 2 more of these T-1 cards, and
install one in each (so each router has 2 of them) and then run ppp
multilink where I bond the 2 T-1's together to form a 3 Mb pipe.

But I just cannot do it.  Specifically, I have tried various ways to get the
Dialer interface to bond to the T-1's (Serial 0/0).  It never works.  For
example, I create rotary groups.  It doesn't work.  Then I try dialer pools.
It also doesn't work.  Everything I have tried doesn't work.

For example, if I try to use dialer pools, then the router demands a dialer
string.  So I give it a dialer string.  The Dialer interface then apparently
tries to dial this string, which of couse fails because in a back2back T-1,
there is nothing to dial.  So if I try a rotary group, somehow the dialer
interface never properly seizes the T-1.  Instead I get an error like this,
whatever the heck it means:

r1#ping 192.168.20.2

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.20.2, timeout is 2 seconds:
.
Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)
r1#
01:25:59: Se0/0 DDR: rotor dialout [priority]
01:26:01: Se0/0 DDR: rotor dialout [priority]
01:26:03: Se0/0 DDR: rotor dialout [priority]
01:26:05: Se0/0 DDR: rotor dialout [priority]
01:26:07: Se0/0 DDR: rotor dialout [priority]


OK, now I have seen several CCO examples (for example the examples on PPP
multilink) where they put a serial interface (not an ISDN or an async int,
but an actual serial interface) under a Dialer interface.  But what can I
say, it has never worked for me, not once.  The only thing that can I can
think of is that all those CCO examples use 2500's, whereas I got 2600's
here.  But it shouldn't matter (or should it?).

So, has anybody (especially somebody with a 2600 with a T-1 WIC)ever
successfully put a serial interface under a Dialer interface and gotten them
to bond correctly  ?  If so, could you shoot me a config?

Thanx




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Re: BCRAN [7:5498]

2001-05-23 Thread Boywonder

Thanks Pat.

Anyone else got any good info?


Patrick Donlon  wrote in message
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 I passed the Remote Access exam last Thursday, expect some Framely relay,
 X25, and ISDN of course. I had a lot of questions where I had to choose a
 command from a list of commands, including some non existant ones, such as
 how do I map an IP address to an ISDN number. I used the Cisco Press book
 and it's practice exam and the isdn router cim and didn't find it
difficult,

 good luck

 Pat

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  Hi guys,
 
  I am just new to the group.  Can anyone please tell me what to expect in
 the
  BCRAN exam?  I am taking it next week and any tips and tricks will be
 muchly
  appreciated.
 
  Thanks,
  Bryce
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Re: how to reduce a broadcast on PC? [7:5517]

2001-05-23 Thread Terence Lee

Basically your network is already saturated. Any broadcast over 40% on
ethernet is saturated. Your syslog box should not really be generation
anything if you are just using it to log. Try using another nic to see if
that helps

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 Hi..  I used a fluke meter to check the health of our network. I found one
 of our Linux server are generating 14% of broadcast.  But I don't know how
 to reduce it? any idea?  For your information, we use this Linux box act
as
 a syslog server to receive message from all our switches.  Does it
 contribute to the broadcast? If the fluke meter found my network has 45%
 broadcast, will it slow down my network?

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Bandwidth allocation for VoIP Session [7:5549]

2001-05-23 Thread Brijesh

Dear all,

Have a query:

I have a 64 kbps point-to-point link between India and US office, which is
primarily used for data/VoIP communication.

Presently there is no bandwidth allocated for a VoIP session. Please suggest
the suitable solution whereby I can allocate about 16 kbps per voice session.

Regards,
Brijesh




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RE: field certified professional association [7:5550]

2001-05-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Monty,
  CCNP and CCIE were mentioned under exam categories   -- general
skills based,  that is at http://www.fieldcertification.org/skillexams.htm
Not under vendor specific where I expected it .

Jenny Margrison




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Re: BCRAN [7:5498]

2001-05-23 Thread Terence Lee

I agree with Patrick, I took the exam last friday and mostly I had to choose
from a list of command which is fairly easy if u know your commands. Study
PPP. That is what I had the most of. So Frame and a Few ISDN.. Also have
have to type in the commands once you choose them so be careful when tying
them. I know some of the commands right off but I had to remeber that I
could not abbreviate. Hope this helps.
--
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the
 BCRAN exam?  I am taking it next week and any tips and tricks will be
muchly
 appreciated.

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best IOS Rel for Cisco800 with IP PLUS Version [7:5552]

2001-05-23 Thread Oliver Stock

Hi all,

I've got a question concerning the best IOS Rel. for Cisco 800 routers.
We're using them to connect customers to our network. Because of the need of
a tacacs+ authentification we need the IP PLUS version. Has anyone already
made experiences with this combination? Currently the routers are
pre-configured with Rel. 12.0.5T but so far as I can see this is an early
deployment version. On the Cisco HP I've found major rel. 12.1.2 til 12.1.8
but which of them is best for our issue?
Any comments and remarks/ experiences are helpful.
Kind regards,

Oliver Stock




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RE: how to enlarge Switching Backplane of 6509 [7:5487]

2001-05-23 Thread Greene, Patrick

There is actually a caveat with using the SFM's.  If you put ANY non fabric
enabled cards in that chassis then the entire chassis will step down to the
32Gbps backplane...this includes any FlexWan modules.

Patrick Greene

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 3:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: how to enlarge Switching Backplane of 6509 [7:5487]


It's always fun to have one of these discussions, especially when I could be
sleeping. This one seems to be turning into yet another of those what is
truth? questions. When dealing with Cisco, it is sometimes difficult to
tell.

The following link would appear to say something other than what you have
quoted. Granted, mine is a quick skim. But it does seem to state that one
SFM card provides 256G and the other is for redundancy.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca6000/prodlit/c6sfm_ds.htm

notice that later in the link, Cisco starts talking bout packets per second
( PPS ) If you add the MSFC card you get 30mpps and if you add the DCF card
on top of that you get 100mpps.  I bring this up because I had a
conversation off line with someone about needing the MSFC and DCF in order
to get the 256G backplane. Cisco's own configuration tool indicates no. The
person with whom I was discussing this indicated he has done a lot of
research and his finding was yes. My own reading tells me that if I were an
EE I might actually understand the link a bit better, and perhaps it would
make more sense. As is stands, I am perceiving it as a lot of double-talk.

This next link is where you, Frank, may have gotten your quote about the
failover.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/sft_6_1/configgd
/swfab.htm#xtocid223541

I just opened NetformX, the configuration tool my boss paid a LOT of money
for me to use in my design work. Once again I can't prove that I ever saw
the SFM card described as 128G, and now it appears that the one card is
indeed 256G.  Serves  me right for not checking this stuff every hour of
every day :-

Chuck



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frank
Sent:   Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: how to enlarge Switching Backplane of 6509 [7:5487]

but a cisco engineer told me i should just use one .
for why upgrade to 256G,the customer is god ,he wants to pay ,i don't
care.^_^
According to the following ,it seems if we use 2 sfm,just one is active
,another is not.

The following is from cisco website.

128-Gbps Switch Fabric Module. The Switch Fabric Module requires Supervisor
Engine 2. Switch Fabric Modules must be installed in either slot 5 or 6 of
the Catalyst 6500 series switches. For redundancy, you can install a second
Switch Fabric Module. The Switch Fabric Module first installed functions as
the primary module. When two modules are installed at the same time, the
module in slot 5 functions as the primary module, and the module installed
in slot 6 functions as the backup. If you reset the Switch Fabric Module
installed in slot 5, the module in slot 6 becomes the active one.
v
Chuck Larrieu  wrote in message
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 Takes two to get 256

 Takes slots 5  6, making your 6509 a 6507 ;-

 Idle curiosity - why do you need a 256 gig back plane? Assuming all seven
of
 the other slots each contain the 16 port Gig E blades, and each port was
 going full duplex, that comes out to 224 gigs, according to my fingers. Oh
 yeah, through in the two Gig E ports on the sup module, and that gets to
 226.

 I am still trying to figure how you can move that much data, given the way
 networks normally work. ;-

 Chuck

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 frank
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 8:53 PM
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 Subject: Re: how to enlarge Switching Backplane of 6509 [7:5487]

 do i need one or two 128G Switch Fabric Module?

 dave mauro  wrote in message
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  Don't expect to find this spelled out clearly anywhere on CCO, but to
the
  best of my knowledge, you must have:
 
  1. Supervisor Engine 2 (with PFC2)
  2. MSFC2
  3. 128G Switch Fabric Module
  4. 16-port GE module (WS-X6516-GBIC or WS-X6816-GBIC)
  5. Distributed Forwarding Card (DFC)
 
  Until recently this last piece has not been available...
 
  Search CCO for details on these fine products.  Bring your wallet.
 
  Dave
 
 
  On Tue, 22 May 2001, frank wrote:
  
   from 32G to 256G?
  
   Thanks
  
  
   Frank
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Re: TCP/IP host config [7:5508]

2001-05-23 Thread Dyson Kuben

If you're pinging win98 box, from win95 or the router attached to it - win98
box needs a static route back to the next hop (ie ipaddress of s0) also
default gateway should be pointing at e0 ip address- try this and let me know.


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RE: Bandwidth allocation for VoIP Session [7:5549]

2001-05-23 Thread Dyson Kuben

What routers/switches are you using? if its cisco what's the IOS?


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Re: OT Looking for tech presentation tips [7:5111]

2001-05-23 Thread Marty Adkins

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 
 Ask your manager to send you to a class on doing presentations. You
 shouldn't be expected to do this without training any more than the junior
 engineers can do their jobs without training. In a training class, you will
 get a chance to practice in a safe environment. You will also learn how to
 handle questions.
 
Besides Toastmasters, I can heartily recommend Friesen, Kay  Associates'
three-day Instructional Techniques workshop.  I've sent a number of new
instructors to it who found it very helpful.  http://www.fka.com/

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RE: Bandwidth allocation for VoIP Session [7:5549]

2001-05-23 Thread Dyson Kuben

point-to-point link? explain?


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Re: MAC address of interfaces in PIX 515R [7:5544]

2001-05-23 Thread Alex Lee

How about 'sh int e0' ?


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 The provider DHCP's the address to the clients. I want to use the PIX to
 connect to the modem but the ISP secure the DHCP request by MAC address of
 the interface. I have to inform them what it is before it will lease the
new
 IP address. What is the easiest way to find out the MAC address of the
 Ethernet interfaces in the PIX. I can't see an obvious command.

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RE: MAC address of interfaces in PIX 515R [7:5544]

2001-05-23 Thread Dyson Kuben

Try show int e0 e1 etc


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Re: Bandwidth allocation for VoIP Session [7:5549]

2001-05-23 Thread Brijesh

Router used is 3640 and 2610 with 2 port FXS module.
IOS Version is 12.0

Brijesh

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Subject: RE: Bandwidth allocation for VoIP Session [7:5549]


 What routers/switches are you using? if its cisco what's the IOS?
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Re: Bandwidth allocation for VoIP Session [7:5549]

2001-05-23 Thread Patrick Donlon

The IOS you use will determine on how you prioritise the traffic, with
earlier versions you can set a priority queues, multilink interleaving or
just set the tos bit.

For later versions of IOS, even 12.2(1), you can use policy maps. You need
to set up a policy which has classes within it, then define the traffic you
want to be prioritised in an access list. Read up on it first and test it

regards

Pat


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 Dear all,

 Have a query:

 I have a 64 kbps point-to-point link between India and US office, which is
 primarily used for data/VoIP communication.

 Presently there is no bandwidth allocated for a VoIP session. Please
suggest
 the suitable solution whereby I can allocate about 16 kbps per voice
session.

 Regards,
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Re: Can I have a 2600 T-1 WIC bound to a Dialer interface? [7:5562]

2001-05-23 Thread Shoaib Waqar

Did u try dialer dtr???

Waqar

--- NRF  wrote:
 Consider this.  I have 2 2610's, each with a
 WIC-1DSU T-1 card in them.  I
 have these T-1's connected back to back.  I have
 tried putting IP addreses,
 using encap ppp, and everything works cool, exactly
 the way I would expect
 it to work.  So I know the cards and the cable and
 all that are working
 fine.
 
 Now, I want to try to have the T-1 interfaces
 invoked via Dialer interfaces.
 Why?  Because eventually I want to get 2 more of
 these T-1 cards, and
 install one in each (so each router has 2 of them)
 and then run ppp
 multilink where I bond the 2 T-1's together to form
 a 3 Mb pipe.
 
 But I just cannot do it.  Specifically, I have tried
 various ways to get the
 Dialer interface to bond to the T-1's (Serial 0/0). 
 It never works.  For
 example, I create rotary groups.  It doesn't work. 
 Then I try dialer pools.
 It also doesn't work.  Everything I have tried
 doesn't work.
 
 For example, if I try to use dialer pools, then the
 router demands a dialer
 string.  So I give it a dialer string.  The Dialer
 interface then apparently
 tries to dial this string, which of couse fails
 because in a back2back T-1,
 there is nothing to dial.  So if I try a rotary
 group, somehow the dialer
 interface never properly seizes the T-1.  Instead I
 get an error like this,
 whatever the heck it means:
 
 r1#ping 192.168.20.2
 
 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.20.2,
 timeout is 2 seconds:
 .
 Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)
 r1#
 01:25:59: Se0/0 DDR: rotor dialout [priority]
 01:26:01: Se0/0 DDR: rotor dialout [priority]
 01:26:03: Se0/0 DDR: rotor dialout [priority]
 01:26:05: Se0/0 DDR: rotor dialout [priority]
 01:26:07: Se0/0 DDR: rotor dialout [priority]
 
 
 OK, now I have seen several CCO examples (for
 example the examples on PPP
 multilink) where they put a serial interface (not an
 ISDN or an async int,
 but an actual serial interface) under a Dialer
 interface.  But what can I
 say, it has never worked for me, not once.  The only
 thing that can I can
 think of is that all those CCO examples use 2500's,
 whereas I got 2600's
 here.  But it shouldn't matter (or should it?).
 
 So, has anybody (especially somebody with a 2600
 with a T-1 WIC)ever
 successfully put a serial interface under a Dialer
 interface and gotten them
 to bond correctly  ?  If so, could you shoot me a
 config?
 
 Thanx
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Interesting Article [7:5563]

2001-05-23 Thread Brian Mitchell

Thought y'all might be interested in this article comparing Juniper to
Cisco:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/576895.asp

Brian Mitchell
Integrated Communication Solutions 
Silver Certified Cisco Partner
Frederick, Maryland




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connecting NM-HDV-1E1-30E to Alcatel 4300 PABX [7:5566]

2001-05-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi.

I want to connect 3661 with NM-HDV-1E1-30E to Alcatel 4200 or 4300 PABX.

In Cisco web site there are some certified PBX vendors and models. Such as
Lucent Definity, Nortel Meridian, ...
But there is no information about Alcatel PABX interoperability.

Is there someone who established digital voice connection between Cisco and
Alcatel PABX already? Any information will be helpful.

Thanks.
Regards.

Ali Burcin Kozak




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Re: connecting NM-HDV-1E1-30E to Alcatel 4300 PABX [7:5566]

2001-05-23 Thread Tony Medeiros

I have never done an Alcatel, but I here the same things apply, just
different signaling techiques apply. Are you emulating a PBX to PBX PRI
trunk?  Do you have centralized email and need MWL fuctioniality? Need
calling party name display ?Are you useing the router to tie into a Cisco IP
telephony solution?  Using voice over ip or frame?

All these uses require different techniques.  If you give  little more info
I'll let you know what I think needs to be done.

Tony M.
#6172

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 6:36 AM
Subject: connecting NM-HDV-1E1-30E to Alcatel 4300 PABX [7:5566]


 Hi.

 I want to connect 3661 with NM-HDV-1E1-30E to Alcatel 4200 or 4300 PABX.

 In Cisco web site there are some certified PBX vendors and models. Such as
 Lucent Definity, Nortel Meridian, ...
 But there is no information about Alcatel PABX interoperability.

 Is there someone who established digital voice connection between Cisco
and
 Alcatel PABX already? Any information will be helpful.

 Thanks.
 Regards.

 Ali Burcin Kozak
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Fw: Bandwidth allocation for VoIP Session [7:5549]

2001-05-23 Thread Tony Medeiros

 RSVP is also an option.  RTP priority is another (PQ-WFG) is another

 Tony M.
 #6172

 - Original Message -
 From: Patrick Donlon 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Bandwidth allocation for VoIP Session [7:5549]


  The IOS you use will determine on how you prioritise the traffic, with
  earlier versions you can set a priority queues, multilink interleaving
or
  just set the tos bit.
 
  For later versions of IOS, even 12.2(1), you can use policy maps. You
need
  to set up a policy which has classes within it, then define the traffic
 you
  want to be prioritised in an access list. Read up on it first and test
it
 
  regards
 
  Pat
 
 
  Brijesh  wrote in message
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   Dear all,
  
   Have a query:
  
   I have a 64 kbps point-to-point link between India and US office,
which
 is
   primarily used for data/VoIP communication.
  
   Presently there is no bandwidth allocated for a VoIP session. Please
  suggest
   the suitable solution whereby I can allocate about 16 kbps per voice
  session.
  
   Regards,
   Brijesh
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Books with product suggestions? [7:5568]

2001-05-23 Thread Mike Emigh

Hello!

I was wondering if anyone had run across a book that recommends products to
use in certain situations? There seems to be so many solutions, and modules
that you can add to each product, that I am confused about when you would
want to take one route over another.

For example, say the situation calls for the multiplexing of a few T1s. The
book might say you can do this with this series of routers, just adding this
module, and following these procedures:

And it might say, you can also accomplish this by attaching this sort of
equipment to a serial interface; however, there are some drawbacks and here
is what they are:

(Those examples are completely made up, and I don't know what I'm talking
about!)

I would hope to find something like this in a design book of somekind, but I
haven't even looked at any.

Thanks for the help,
Mike




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Re: Can I have a 2600 T-1 WIC bound to a Dialer interface? [7:5569]

2001-05-23 Thread Tony Medeiros

The best way to do this is to use inverse multiplexing multilink PPP.  See
the link below and scroll almost to the bottom for a configuration example.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/dial_
c/dcppp.htm

It does't use dialer interfaces but does  nice load balancing without
killing the processor.  no ip route cache is another alternative on both
T1's but puts all packet in the process switched path and can really slam
the router processor.

Tony M.
#6172

- Original Message -
From: NRF 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 2:09 AM
Subject: Can I have a 2600 T-1 WIC bound to a Dialer interface? [7:5546]


 Consider this.  I have 2 2610's, each with a WIC-1DSU T-1 card in them.  I
 have these T-1's connected back to back.  I have tried putting IP
addreses,
 using encap ppp, and everything works cool, exactly the way I would expect
 it to work.  So I know the cards and the cable and all that are working
 fine.

 Now, I want to try to have the T-1 interfaces invoked via Dialer
interfaces.
 Why?  Because eventually I want to get 2 more of these T-1 cards, and
 install one in each (so each router has 2 of them) and then run ppp
 multilink where I bond the 2 T-1's together to form a 3 Mb pipe.

 But I just cannot do it.  Specifically, I have tried various ways to get
the
 Dialer interface to bond to the T-1's (Serial 0/0).  It never works.  For
 example, I create rotary groups.  It doesn't work.  Then I try dialer
pools.
 It also doesn't work.  Everything I have tried doesn't work.

 For example, if I try to use dialer pools, then the router demands a
dialer
 string.  So I give it a dialer string.  The Dialer interface then
apparently
 tries to dial this string, which of couse fails because in a back2back
T-1,
 there is nothing to dial.  So if I try a rotary group, somehow the dialer
 interface never properly seizes the T-1.  Instead I get an error like
this,
 whatever the heck it means:

 r1#ping 192.168.20.2

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.20.2, timeout is 2 seconds:
 .
 Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)
 r1#
 01:25:59: Se0/0 DDR: rotor dialout [priority]
 01:26:01: Se0/0 DDR: rotor dialout [priority]
 01:26:03: Se0/0 DDR: rotor dialout [priority]
 01:26:05: Se0/0 DDR: rotor dialout [priority]
 01:26:07: Se0/0 DDR: rotor dialout [priority]


 OK, now I have seen several CCO examples (for example the examples on PPP
 multilink) where they put a serial interface (not an ISDN or an async int,
 but an actual serial interface) under a Dialer interface.  But what can I
 say, it has never worked for me, not once.  The only thing that can I can
 think of is that all those CCO examples use 2500's, whereas I got 2600's
 here.  But it shouldn't matter (or should it?).

 So, has anybody (especially somebody with a 2600 with a T-1 WIC)ever
 successfully put a serial interface under a Dialer interface and gotten
them
 to bond correctly  ?  If so, could you shoot me a config?

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IPX Eigrp redistributed into IPX RIP [7:5571]

2001-05-23 Thread YY

Hi,

IPX Eigrp carries hop count number into IPX RIP during redistribution.  If
an IPX Eigrp route has hop count  15, then IPX RIP cannot get the route
because of the 16-hop limit.  Is there solution ?  Thanks in advance.

Y 
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Re: how to enlarge Switching Backplane of 6509 [7:5487]

2001-05-23 Thread dave mauro

Just one.


On Tue, 22 May 2001, frank wrote:

 do i need one or two 128G Switch Fabric Module?

 dave mauro  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Don't expect to find this spelled out clearly anywhere on CCO, but to the
  best of my knowledge, you must have:
 
  1. Supervisor Engine 2 (with PFC2)
  2. MSFC2
  3. 128G Switch Fabric Module
  4. 16-port GE module (WS-X6516-GBIC or WS-X6816-GBIC)
  5. Distributed Forwarding Card (DFC)
 
  Until recently this last piece has not been available...
 
  Search CCO for details on these fine products.  Bring your wallet.
 
  Dave
 
 
  On Tue, 22 May 2001, frank wrote:
  
   from 32G to 256G?
  
   Thanks
  
  
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Best IOS for [7:5574]

2001-05-23 Thread Richard Tufaro

Anyone know the best IOS for a 2524 Cisco router, that I need to do ISDN and
IP on?

Richard Tufaro, CCNA, MCSE, GSEC
Network Engineer
Anda Inc.
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Re: Wireless LAN specialization [7:5575]

2001-05-23 Thread Kevin Wigle

I have passed both of the exams.

I only used the recommended courses on the E-Learning site.

However, the radio side was a bit of a review for me as I taught radio
theory for the Cdn military for a few years...

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: James 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:16 AM
Subject: Wireless LAN specialization [7:5575]


 Hello,

 Anyone out there works for a Reseller who selected
 Wireless LAN specialization ? I'm thinking of
 attempting the Wireless LAN specialization for SE/FE
 and am wondering what books should I get and how the
 exam is like. Any input from anyone with experience in
 the exam in appreciated.
 Thanks

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RE: how to reduce a broadcast on PC? [7:5517]

2001-05-23 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I respectfully disagree.

The 40% number refers to ethernet utilization, not to percentage broadcasts.
In other words, as a rule of thumb, if you are running 4mbs of traffic
across your Ethernet, you are approaching saturation.

In terms of percentage of network traffic that is broadcast, there is an old
saw that if broadcasts exceed a certain percentage of your traffic, your
networking trouble.  All I can say is that in the brokerage firm where I
worked, during market hours, broadcasts made up around 90% of our network
traffic. How else do brokers get their quotes.

The key here is understanding how your network is used. In my case,
understanding the nature of the business and therefore the usage of the
network, I could sleep well knowing that life was good.

In the case of the gentleman below, having used the Fluke to determine that
something is happening, the next step is to determine why. The Linux box is
used for what besides syslog? Is it the creator or the receiver of those
broadcasts, or the creator? As a syslog server, I would venture to guess it
is a top receiver. If there is a high percentage of broadcast, what other
servers are there? How are hosts configured? What protocols are in use? What
time of day was this done?

Just some idle thoughts

Chuck



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Subject:Re: how to reduce a broadcast on PC? [7:5517]

Basically your network is already saturated. Any broadcast over 40% on
ethernet is saturated. Your syslog box should not really be generation
anything if you are just using it to log. Try using another nic to see if
that helps

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 to reduce it? any idea?  For your information, we use this Linux box act
as
 a syslog server to receive message from all our switches.  Does it
 contribute to the broadcast? If the fluke meter found my network has 45%
 broadcast, will it slow down my network?

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HELP!!! Need to know cable type! [7:5579]

2001-05-23 Thread Craig Crosby

Hello,

Could someone please let me know what type of multimode patch cables I would
need for a PA-1A-OC3-MM and a ls100
??  Please let me know, as I am in need of this immediately.  I know there
are st, sc, sma, etc. types, I just need to know which I will need for this.

Thanks so much,
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Wireless LAN specialization [7:5575] -Reply [7:5581]

2001-05-23 Thread Jose A Rola

Could you or anyone please tell me where in cisco site or elsewhere can i
find information regarding this specialization?

Thak you in advance.

Jose Rola

 James  05/23/01 04:16pm 
Hello,

Anyone out there works for a Reseller who selected
Wireless LAN specialization ? I'm thinking of
attempting the Wireless LAN specialization for SE/FE
and am wondering what books should I get and how the
exam is like. Any input from anyone with experience in
the exam in appreciated.
Thanks

James

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CISCOWORKS 2000 [7:5582]

2001-05-23 Thread JohnMail

I am trying to decide whether or not I should attend a CISCOWORKS 2000 BOOT
CAMP  program that costs $4000 for 5 days.  The name of the course is
CISCOWORKS 2000 FUNDAMENTALS  LAN/WAN

Is there a better way of acquiring the same training at a lower cost via
online sources.  I am also interested in books on this subject.

Thanks for you comments


Cheers,
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WIC - 2 A/S module for 3640 series router ! [7:5583]

2001-05-23 Thread Rajesh Kumar

Hi all,


I have a 3640 router and Ethernet module loaded in the system.  The
router recognises as E0/0 and E0/1.

when I try to plug in my WIC - 2 A/S card, the system is not recognizing
the serial card.  The same card is working in 26xx router.  I went into
cisco site and found that the cards are interchangeable.  The IOS
version is 12.0 in 3640 router.

Did anybody faced this problem earlier. Any insight?

Thanks
Rajesh




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Re: TCP/IP host config [7:5508]

2001-05-23 Thread Kevin Wigle

gee, you could be a lot more specific even on a simple scenario like
this

anyway - so, is what you have like.

Win95...eth.2501-1...ser.2501-2...eth..Win98??

When you say you can ping the Win95 I assume you're doing that from 2501-1??

1. So, can you ping 2501-2  from 2501-1 ?

2. Can you ping 2501-1 from 2501-2  ???

3. Can you ping Win98 from 2501-2 ??

4. Is the gateway set on 2501-1 and 2501-2 ??

5. Is the gateway set on Win98?

6. Are the serial interfaces on 2501-1 and 2501 -2 up/up?

7. If no to #6, is one router providing clock ??

8. What does show cdp neighbors say ???

9. Are there routes from the Win95 net to/from the Win98 net ??

10. Or subsequent to #9 - are you running an IGP and is it configured on
both routers
for all 3 nets ??

11. Not likely but possible - are there access-lists on any of the
interfaces ??

Win98 doesn't have a telnet daemon unless you installed a 3rd party util,
but - if you can't ping it you won't be able to telnet it. (unless
access-lists for icmp are in play)

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: Stephen Flint 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:04 AM
Subject: TCP/IP host config [7:5508]


 Hi,

 Let me be more specific.

 I have two 2501s and a host for each one.  I can ping in one direction to
a
 host(Win95) but in the other direction to the second host(Win98),
 it cannot be pinged or telnetted. Any help would be appreciated.

 Thanks,
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Re: HELP!!! Need to know cable type! [7:5579]

2001-05-23 Thread Brian

multimode with oc3?  Hopefully these are short runs.  We use mm for gige and
other lan runs, and sm for oc3.

Bri

- Original Message -
From: Craig Crosby 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:14 AM
Subject: HELP!!! Need to know cable type! [7:5579]


 Hello,

 Could someone please let me know what type of multimode patch cables I
would
 need for a PA-1A-OC3-MM and a ls100
 ??  Please let me know, as I am in need of this immediately.  I know there
 are st, sc, sma, etc. types, I just need to know which I will need for
this.

 Thanks so much,
 Craig

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Re: Wireless LAN specialization [7:5575]

2001-05-23 Thread Kevin Wigle

James,

I can't reply to your private email as I get this error...

Your message was rejected by mx1.mail.yahoo.com for the following reason:
 delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - mta535.mail.yahoo.com

anyway, here is my reply..

I'm at work, I'll have to look at the exams when I get home for # of
questions.

However, you take this exam over the internet, from your home if you wish
and I guess with all the reference material you have collected around you.

However, there's lot's of stuff and it is only in streaming video sync'd
with Power Point slides.

You can download the power point and audio content.

You should also download the spreadsheet they provide for calculating
antenna distance, cable loss etc - there is at least one question on that
and you have to use
the spreadsheet, so get to know how to use it.

From what I remember, all the info you need is there.. however you
should look over the power point presentation notes (the notes attached to
the slides) and you have to listen to the presentation and take notes.  So
that means a few hours.  Hope you have a fast internet connection.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: James 
To: Kevin Wigle 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Wireless LAN specialization [7:5575]


 Kevin,

 May I know how many questions are there in the exam ?
 What should I focus on ? how relevant are the
 questions to the recommended courses ? Hope that you
 can provide some tips without violating your NDA.
 Thanks

 James
 --- Kevin Wigle  wrote:
  I have passed both of the exams.
 
  I only used the recommended courses on the
  E-Learning site.
 
  However, the radio side was a bit of a review for me
  as I taught radio
  theory for the Cdn military for a few
  years...
 
  Kevin Wigle
 
  - Original Message -
  From: James 
  To: 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:16 AM
  Subject: Wireless LAN specialization [7:5575]
 
 
   Hello,
  
   Anyone out there works for a Reseller who selected
   Wireless LAN specialization ? I'm thinking of
   attempting the Wireless LAN specialization for
  SE/FE
   and am wondering what books should I get and how
  the
   exam is like. Any input from anyone with
  experience in
   the exam in appreciated.
   Thanks
  
   James




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RE: HELP!!! Need to know cable type! [7:5579]

2001-05-23 Thread Daniel Cotts

Should be duplex cable with SC connectors.

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 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:15 AM
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 Subject: HELP!!! Need to know cable type! [7:5579]
 
 
 Hello,
 
 Could someone please let me know what type of multimode patch 
 cables I would
 need for a PA-1A-OC3-MM and a ls100
 ??  Please let me know, as I am in need of this immediately.  
 I know there
 are st, sc, sma, etc. types, I just need to know which I will 
 need for this.
 
 Thanks so much,
 Craig
 
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RE: Wireless LAN specialization [7:5575] -Reply [7:5575]

2001-05-23 Thread Chuck Larrieu

By popular demand:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/pec/peclogin.html

requires a CCO login. I believe this is for partners only, so you may need a
CCO login tied to your employer's partnership account.

HTH

Chuck

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A Rola
Sent:   Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:21 AM
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Subject:Wireless LAN specialization [7:5575] -Reply [7:5581]

Could you or anyone please tell me where in cisco site or elsewhere can i
find information regarding this specialization?

Thak you in advance.

Jose Rola

 James  05/23/01 04:16pm 
Hello,

Anyone out there works for a Reseller who selected
Wireless LAN specialization ? I'm thinking of
attempting the Wireless LAN specialization for SE/FE
and am wondering what books should I get and how the
exam is like. Any input from anyone with experience in
the exam in appreciated.
Thanks

James

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RE: HELP!!! Need to know cable type! [7:5579]

2001-05-23 Thread Chuck Larrieu

One avenue open to just about everyone for this kind of information is the
Cisco pre sales support group

1-800-553-6387 option 2, then choose your poison. Folks there are usually
pretty good about providing accurate information.

HTH

Chuck

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Sent:   Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:15 AM
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Subject:HELP!!! Need to know cable type! [7:5579]

Hello,

Could someone please let me know what type of multimode patch cables I would
need for a PA-1A-OC3-MM and a ls100
??  Please let me know, as I am in need of this immediately.  I know there
are st, sc, sma, etc. types, I just need to know which I will need for this.

Thanks so much,
Craig

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RE: how to enlarge Switching Backplane of 6509 [7:5487]

2001-05-23 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Beats the hell out of me. I work in a sector that is poor as church mice so
I don't sell a lot of this stuff.

I've had a couple of people ask, then walk away when they learned the price
of the module. In fact, most of my client base walks away from the 65xx
series anyway. The 4006 suits most of them just fine.

I notice our favorite mutual customer didn't want anything to do with the
SFM's ;-

Chuck

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Sent:   Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:47 AM
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Subject:Re: how to enlarge Switching Backplane of 6509 [7:5487]

I looked at that link too Chuck. It seems that if I want the utilize the DFS
card I gottal run that nasty native IOS   Is this true ?

Tony M.
#6172

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From: Chuck Larrieu
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:59 AM
Subject: RE: how to enlarge Switching Backplane of 6509 [7:5487]


 It's always fun to have one of these discussions, especially when I could
be
 sleeping. This one seems to be turning into yet another of those what is
 truth? questions. When dealing with Cisco, it is sometimes difficult to
 tell.

 The following link would appear to say something other than what you have
 quoted. Granted, mine is a quick skim. But it does seem to state that one
 SFM card provides 256G and the other is for redundancy.

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca6000/prodlit/c6sfm_ds.htm

 notice that later in the link, Cisco starts talking bout packets per
second
 ( PPS ) If you add the MSFC card you get 30mpps and if you add the DCF
card
 on top of that you get 100mpps.  I bring this up because I had a
 conversation off line with someone about needing the MSFC and DCF in order
 to get the 256G backplane. Cisco's own configuration tool indicates no.
The
 person with whom I was discussing this indicated he has done a lot of
 research and his finding was yes. My own reading tells me that if I were
an
 EE I might actually understand the link a bit better, and perhaps it would
 make more sense. As is stands, I am perceiving it as a lot of double-talk.

 This next link is where you, Frank, may have gotten your quote about the
 failover.


http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/sft_6_1/configgd
 /swfab.htm#xtocid223541

 I just opened NetformX, the configuration tool my boss paid a LOT of money
 for me to use in my design work. Once again I can't prove that I ever saw
 the SFM card described as 128G, and now it appears that the one card is
 indeed 256G.  Serves  me right for not checking this stuff every hour of
 every day :-

 Chuck



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 frank
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: how to enlarge Switching Backplane of 6509 [7:5487]

 but a cisco engineer told me i should just use one .
 for why upgrade to 256G,the customer is god ,he wants to pay ,i don't
 care.^_^
 According to the following ,it seems if we use 2 sfm,just one is active
 ,another is not.

 The following is from cisco website.

 128-Gbps Switch Fabric Module. The Switch Fabric Module requires
Supervisor
 Engine 2. Switch Fabric Modules must be installed in either slot 5 or 6 of
 the Catalyst 6500 series switches. For redundancy, you can install a
second
 Switch Fabric Module. The Switch Fabric Module first installed functions
as
 the primary module. When two modules are installed at the same time, the
 module in slot 5 functions as the primary module, and the module installed
 in slot 6 functions as the backup. If you reset the Switch Fabric Module
 installed in slot 5, the module in slot 6 becomes the active one.
 v
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  Takes two to get 256
 
  Takes slots 5  6, making your 6509 a 6507 ;-
 
  Idle curiosity - why do you need a 256 gig back plane? Assuming all
seven
 of
  the other slots each contain the 16 port Gig E blades, and each port was
  going full duplex, that comes out to 224 gigs, according to my fingers.
Oh
  yeah, through in the two Gig E ports on the sup module, and that gets to
  226.
 
  I am still trying to figure how you can move that much data, given the
way
  networks normally work. ;-
 
  Chuck
 
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  frank
  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 8:53 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: how to enlarge Switching Backplane of 6509 [7:5487]
 
  do i need one or two 128G Switch Fabric Module?
 
  dave mauro  wrote in message
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   Don't expect to find this spelled out clearly anywhere on CCO, but to
 the
   best of my knowledge, you must have:
  
   1. Supervisor Engine 2 (with PFC2)
   2. MSFC2
   3. 128G Switch Fabric Module
   4. 16-port GE module (WS-X6516-GBIC or WS-X6816-GBIC)
   5. Distributed 

Netflow Collector [7:5591]

2001-05-23 Thread Riera, Alvaro (4152)

Is anybody running netflow collector in a cluster?

Alvaro Riera
CCIE 6826, CCNP+Voice Access+Security, CCDP
Senior Internetworking Consultant
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Re: MAC address of interfaces in PIX 515R [7:5544]

2001-05-23 Thread Allen May

In enable mode, show interface.
Or just ping your box from the PIX and look at your arp cache.

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: MAC address of interfaces in PIX 515R [7:5544]


 show commands aren't available
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RE: CISCOWORKS 2000 [7:5582]

2001-05-23 Thread Hire, Ejay

IMHO, It's better to use your money on routers, switches, and books and get
the 45 day trial of Ciscoworks.

Ejay Hire


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Subject: CISCOWORKS 2000 [7:5582]


I am trying to decide whether or not I should attend a CISCOWORKS 2000 BOOT
CAMP  program that costs $4000 for 5 days.  The name of the course is
CISCOWORKS 2000 FUNDAMENTALS  LAN/WAN

Is there a better way of acquiring the same training at a lower cost via
online sources.  I am also interested in books on this subject.

Thanks for you comments


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Can an NP-2T serial module do DCE? [7:5594]

2001-05-23 Thread Tim Medley

I have a 4000 router with a NP-2T 2port serial module (the big V2 50 pin
connectors) I was thinking that this module cannot do DCE, only DTE.
Today I noticed a DCE light on the back of the serial module.

Can this module do DCE?

tim medley
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Re: Cable Multiservice Operators [7:5246]

2001-05-23 Thread Curtis A. Rose

It appears he is suggesting  OPEN ACCESS agreement whereas the customer is
allowed to choose which company they want to get their news, email, and
service from.

The CMTS belongs to whichever cable company installed it.  If they are
utilizing Cisco GSRs and UBRs, they will most likely be using MPLS and VPN
to accomplish this.  I would check to see what the downstream and upstream
are running.  Big difference between QPSK, QAM 16 and QAM 64.

They will not be overbuilding the CMTS to accomplish this.  The service
company brings in their connection to the HeadEnd (OC3, OC12 whatever).  If
your company wants to overbuilding the CMTS you are talking about alot of
work and money.  I do not know what cable company you are dealing with but I
doubt they would just give away channels as they lose revenue with TV when
doing so.  You are taking a channel away both in the upstream and
downstream.

The billing will be the service provider's issues.  The cable company will
charge for the bandwidth utilized. (depending upon the agreement).

As this is a shared network, I would check the numbers of homespassed per
node. This can range from 75 to 3000.  Cablelabs recommends 500 homes passed
per node.   I would also check the number of subscribers per Blade card on
the UBR.  Cisco recommends not to exceed 1000 customers per blade.

The cablemodem receives the permission to come on line from a LDAP server
and usually uses a 10.X.X.X  IP address and the customer will receive an IP
from the Whom  The cable company or the service provider?  This as well
needs to be reviewed.

I know that cable companies are striving to achieve QOS but right now it is
best effort.  In your readings I would recommend Michael Adams book
OpenCable Architecture from CiscoPress.  I would also look at the Service
Level Agreement with the cable company you are dealing with.  It is amazing
what happens when they change the cable plant around and not tell you what
they are doing.

I hope this helps.

Curtis








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From: Donald B Johnson jr 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Cable Multiservice Operators [7:5246]


 Couple of questions;
 Do you want to run DOCSIS?
 What do you mean the cable infrastructure is Cisco? Aren't you going to
 provide your own gear. Then you can combine/split the signal at the
headend.
 What do you mean they are going to sell you a frequency range? You should
 have only one DOCSIS downstream QAM per physical plant, hence only one
 frequency is needed not a range. It should be a standard 6 MHz ntsc
channel.
 Start at 555 MHz and count 6 MHz either way and these are your center
 frequencies. EX 549, 555, 561, 567 etc... Or if you are not in North
America
 you probally run an 8 MHz carrier. Never worked with Euro-DOCSIS, but it
 aint much different. You will also need a frequency for the upstream
 somewhere between 5 and 42 MHz, look for something 30 MHz and above. This
 will give you the friendliest environment for running the wide-boy 3.2 Mhz
 in the upstream.
 DOCSIS is a shared medium, this PVC MPLS-VPN you are talking about are ATM
 technologies (I Think) you can't run them on a DOCSIS network, security is
 provided through BPI or BPI+. Physical seperation means a separate cable
 plant, a cable company is not going to overbuild on themself just to
provide
 DOCSIS which runs on one of many frequencies.
 Can't do guaranteed service or QOS until DOCSIS 1.1. I would check into
that
 first and make sure all your gear is 1.1 compliant or else no QOS or BPI+.
 If you want give me a call if I haven't answered your questions fully. We
 will be offering voice soon on our DOCSIS networks, also.
 Don

 - Original Message -
 From: Alec Smiths
 To: Donald B Johnson jr
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:34 PM
 Subject: Re: Cable Multiservice Operators [7:5246]


  Hi Don,
 
  We have a CATV partner. We will begin to give cable
  internet services very soon. I want to ask about
  logical and physical seperation issues. My company
  wants to rent a frequency range from CATV operator, so
  we will be able to operate on that freq. range. We
  want to control our own customers. We want to give
  guaranteed bandwidth. We try to find a way that they
  shouldn't sell the same frequency range lots of ISPs.
  We don't care about the extra investments, we have
  enough budget. Cable Internet infrastructure is
  totally Cisco. I read a document from Cisco and it
  says some tradeoffs about physical seperation. But
  they do not say technically impossible, they just say
  it's not recommended. I want to know what are the real
  difficulties about physical seperation, instead of
  having a PVC or MPLS VPN through CMTS network.
  --- Donald B Johnson jr
  wrote:
   Yeah what do you want to know. I work for an MSO
   running DOCSIS.
   Don
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Alec Smiths
   To:
   Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 7:01 AM
   Subject: Cable Multiservice Operators [7:5246]
  
  
Hi 

Re: Can an NP-2T serial module do DCE? [7:5594]

2001-05-23 Thread Kelly D Griffin

Sure.  I have one with two NP-2Ts and one NP-1E acting as a frame-relay
switch and all of the serial interfaces are configured as DCE.

Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA
Network Engineer
Kg2 Network Design
877.418.4025
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:30 PM
Subject: Can an NP-2T serial module do DCE? [7:5594]


 I have a 4000 router with a NP-2T 2port serial module (the big V2 50 pin
 connectors) I was thinking that this module cannot do DCE, only DTE.
 Today I noticed a DCE light on the back of the serial module.

 Can this module do DCE?

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RE: who said CCIE make big bucks? [7:5393]

2001-05-23 Thread Chris Haller

This group is for Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert,
NOT Culinary Certified Icing Experts 


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 Well, if that is you. Then maybe it's time to move
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Re: HELP!!! Need to know cable type! [7:5579]

2001-05-23 Thread Craig Crosby

Thanks for all of your replies!!

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Re: could a bgp reflector also be a client? [7:5528]

2001-05-23 Thread andyh

you can do for sure, but I'd approach it with caution - your root
route-reflectors, if you see what I mean, are going to get pretty heavily
loaded if there is significant transience out there.

Remember that R-Rs nedd to accept updates from all clients, and flood them
out to all other neighbors (client or not).  Imagine what would happen if
you have a two-layer hierarchy of RRs, whereby the clients at the bottom
pass on their updates to the mid-layer RRs, which in turn will pass on the
updates to the top-layer RRs, which have to flood out the updates

Another possibility would be that route flaps might become amplified - ie
generate multiple withdraw/announce pairs which would propagate through the
network, impacting any flap-damping that may be inplemented.

What is normally done is to have a fully (iBGP - not neccesarily physical)
meshed backbone, with a pair of RRs at each major location, with them
feeding local RR clients from there.

hth

Andy

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From: Chuck Larrieu 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:49 AM
Subject: RE: could a bgp reflector also be a client? [7:5528]


 Sure. Why not?

 The configuration on the route reflector is:

 Router bgp x
 Neighbor a.b.c.d route-reflector-client

 There is no configuration on the client

 The whole idea of the RR is to eliminate the necessity for having full
mesh.
 So you can indeed have:

 RR1
/ \
  / \
 RR/C RRC
   /  \
 /   \
 RRCRRC

 Etc

 Just what the doctor ordered!

 Chuck


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 because bgp can have multiple levels of router-reflector according to
cisco.


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Re: how to reduce a broadcast on PC? [7:5517]

2001-05-23 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 05:28 AM 5/23/01, Terence Lee wrote:
Basically your network is already saturated. Any broadcast over 40% on
ethernet is saturated.

40% of what? When stating percentages you need to also state what they are 
a percentage of.

The original poster said the Linux machine is generating 14% of broadcast 
which also doesn't make sense, but perhaps he is not a native English
speaker.

Is it 14% of the overall bandwidth utilization? Usually broadcast traffic 
measurements are stated as a relative measurement. They are stated in 
relationship to the amount of total bandwidth that is in use. If only 4% of 
the total capacity of the network is in use, then 14% of that percentage 
being used for broadcasts is not a problem.

A general rule of thumb is that no more than about 20% of your traffic 
should be broadcasts, although the real answer is it depends. The reason 
to avoid broadcasts is because they interrupt the CPU on every device in 
the broadcast domain. I wonder if this is still a problem with 1.7 GHz P4 
processors!? ;-)

If you attach your fluke to a switched port, be aware that you will only 
see broadcasts or frames address to that port, (unless you use SPAN). 
Sometimes we  get fooled into worrying about broadcast traffic because we 
forget that we aren't seeing the non-broadcast traffic because of switch 
behavior. Troubleshooting used to be so much easier in the days of shared 
Ethernet. ;-)

First give some thought as to whether this 14% problem is even worth 
troubleshooting. If it is, you might want to get a protocol analyzer so you 
can see what the Linux station is sending. Also check the configuration on 
the Linux server. What services is it configured to be running? Could it be 
running RIP and sending routing table broadcasts? What is this Linux 
machine supposed to be doing besides acting as a Syslog server?

Regarding the rule that Ethernet utilization shouldn't exceed 40%, 
remember that it was based on testing in a non-production network with 
traffic patterns that had no resemblance to real-world networks. You need 
to know what's connected to the Ethernet and what the connected stations 
should be sending to know if the rule applies in your situation, which is 
unlikely.

Check out this great paper by David Boggs, one of the creators of Ethernet 
called Measured Capacity of an Ethernet: Myths and Reality. The URL is:

http://www.research.compaq.com/wrl/publications/abstracts/88.4.html

Priscilla

Your syslog box should not really be generation
anything if you are just using it to log. Try using another nic to see if
that helps

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how
  to reduce it? any idea?  For your information, we use this Linux box act
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  a syslog server to receive message from all our switches.  Does it
  contribute to the broadcast? If the fluke meter found my network has 45%
  broadcast, will it slow down my network?
 
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Re: IPX Eigrp redistributed into IPX RIP [7:5571]

2001-05-23 Thread Bradley J. Wilson

For one thing, EIGRP imports IPX hop count as the external metric - the
rest of the metric is the standard EIGRP metric (bw  delay, etc.).
Secondly, hop count is used as a tie breaker in IPX - ticks (delay) is the
primary metric in IPX.

I think. ;-)


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Hi,

IPX Eigrp carries hop count number into IPX RIP during redistribution.  If
an IPX Eigrp route has hop count  15, then IPX RIP cannot get the route
because of the 16-hop limit.  Is there solution ?  Thanks in advance.

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IPv^ info from Cisco [7:5602]

2001-05-23 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Just got this from Cisco, in case anyone is interested in Ipv6

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Subject:Cisco Beyond Basic IP Newsletter V2.21


IPv6 HELPS FUTURE-PROOF INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURES

Going forward, scaling the Internet to new dimensions will include a
worldwide requirement for a substantial increase in the volume of available
IP addresses. The number of Internet-connected devices is proliferating
rapidly. Mobile phone deployment, for example, is expected to reach more
than 1 billion worldwide by 2005, and the majority of those phones will be
Web-enabled. The construction of the world's 2.5G and 3G wireless networks
alone, at some point, will drive the need for a dramatic increase in the
pool of public IP addresses.
In addition, the emergence of Internet appliances and home networks, along
with the ramp-up of Internet connectivity in populous countries such as
China, Russia, and India, will soon be significant contributors to the surge
in IP address consumption.
To future-proof Service Providers' Internet infrastructures, Cisco has made
IP Version 6 (IPv6), as specified by the Internet Engineering Task Force
(IETF), available at no charge in its latest release of Cisco IOS(r)
software for early adopters. Cisco is the first networking equipment vendor
to implement IPv6 support across a wide array of routing platforms.
TECHNOLOGY BACKGROUND
IPv6 extends the address space in an IP packet from 32 bits to 128 bits.
This accommodates a much greater number of bit combinations, out of which IP
addresses numbering into the trillions can be constructed. Standards for 3G
networks-packet-switched wireless networks of up to 2-Mbps speeds that will
be rolling out over the next several years-for example, mandate the use of
IPv6 protocols.  In addition, the expected launch of an IPv6-compliant
release of the Microsoft Windows operating system late this year will serve
as yet another significant driver.
Unlike with IPv4, Dynamic Host Control Protocol (DHCP) client software is
not necessary for dynamically allocating available user IP addresses in an
IPv6 access network. In addition, ongoing IETF IPv6 development work will
enable Service Providers to automatically and remotely configure an IP
address on a customer's router, DSL modem, or cable modem. This capability
slashes the time and expense associated with configuring CPE on a
customer-by-customer basis.
There are several ways IPv6 can be deployed to peacefully co-exist with IPv4
infrastructures. One bullet-proof scenario has been used for years on the
experimental 6Bone, a constantly growing international IPv6 test bed. This
approach is to first deploy IPv6 in edge routers and tunnel IPv6 packets
over IPv4 or Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) backbones. This is a
cost-effective option, in that existing IPv4/MPLS backbone services can be
maintained while updating only part of the network, and existing IPv4
revenues are not put in jeopardy.
CONFIGURATION CONSIDERATIONS
IPv6 is available at no charge in Cisco IOS Release 12.2(1)T for the Cisco
800, 1400, 1600, 1700, 2500, 2600, 3600, 4500, 4700, 7100, 7200, and 7500
series routers, as well as the Cisco AS5300 and AS5400 universal access
servers.
To minimize the Service Provider learning curve, commands for configuring
IPv6 in Cisco software are the same as those for IPv4.
BENEFITS SUMMARY
By configuring Cisco IOS IPv6 services, Service Providers can work with the
Cisco Technical Assistance Center (TAC) and systems engineers to plan ahead
for future scalability and IPv4-IPv6 integration. Service Providers, for
example, might wish to become early IPv6 adopters to:
* Learn about the IPv6 protocol set and train employees
* Plan the IPv6 integration and its co-existence with IPv4
* Develop a deployment scenario

FURTHER INFORMATION
For more information on IPv6 other Cisco software capabilities, visit the
following URLs:
Cisco IPv6 Web Site:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/732/Tech/ipv6/
Cisco IOS IPv6 Statement of Direction
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/732/Tech/ipv6/ipv6_techdoc.shtml
Internet Architecture Board: The Case for IPv6
http://www.6bone.net/misc/case-for-ipv6.html
Cisco IOS Software Road Map
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/620/roadmap.shtml

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Re: how to reduce a broadcast on PC? [7:5517]

2001-05-23 Thread Jason Roysdon

Run netstat -l and/or check /etc/inetd.conf and find out what other
services/daemons are running on the box.  If it's just acting as a syslog,
I'd only have tcp/22 open for sshd and syslogd running and everything else
killed.  Just to venture a guess, but it probably has SaMBa running, which
will include smbd and nmbd making the box act as an NT browse-master.

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Re: Multiple ISP Leased Line [7:5536]

2001-05-23 Thread Jason Roysdon

Search the newsgroup on BPG, as this is the real solution to what you're
trying to accomplish.  You need to advertise your ISP1 provider space out
ISP2 and get ISP1 to allow you to announce it more specifically than their
larger netblock.  I suggest Halabi's Internet Routing Architectures, 2nd
Edition, if you're going to do it yourself.  Otherwise, hire a consultant
who knows BGP to get the job done right.
http://www.bestwebbuys.com/books/compare/isbn/157870233X

You can actually have DNS point to multiple IPs, but it's just a random
chance (round-robin) as to which one someone will get.  So if ISP1 fails,
50% of the people would still get the DNS for the IP for that ISP, and due
to DNS caching, you can't just simple remove the DNS to solve it (2 days in
the minimum requirement for DNS caching).

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 Hi friends,

 WEBSEVER--FIREWALL---(E0)ROUTER1(S0)-(S0)ROUTER2(ISP1)--INTERNET
  |
  |
 (S1)-(S0)ROUTER3(ISP2)--INTERNET

 I have Webserver which is NATed with the Valid IP from ISP1 and has DNS
 entry at the ISP1 site.

 If the user is trying to access the webserver from the net, he will goto
 ISP1 and from there he will reach the webserver.

 If the Link btn ISP1 and ROUTER1(S0) goes down, how the user will access
the
 websrever from the net. I know I cannot have multiple DNS entry for the
same
 hostname even with multiple ISP.

 My objective is the User should still access the net through redundant ISP
 link.

 Is there any solution for this.

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Re: IPv^ info from Cisco [7:5602]

2001-05-23 Thread John Neiberger

It appears that for routing protocols Cisco has only implented RIPv6
and BGP for IPv6 in 12.2T.  Is there any reason why they have chosen not
to implement EIGRP for IPv6?  It seems odd that in their first foray
into IPv6 that they would exclude their own routing protocol of choice.

John

 Chuck Larrieu  5/23/01 2:24:37 PM 
Just got this from Cisco, in case anyone is interested in Ipv6

-Original Message-
From:   Cisco Systems Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent:   Wednesday, May 23, 2001 1:05 PM
Subject:Cisco Beyond Basic IP Newsletter V2.21


IPv6 HELPS FUTURE-PROOF INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURES

Going forward, scaling the Internet to new dimensions will include a
worldwide requirement for a substantial increase in the volume of
available
IP addresses. The number of Internet-connected devices is
proliferating
rapidly. Mobile phone deployment, for example, is expected to reach
more
than 1 billion worldwide by 2005, and the majority of those phones will
be
Web-enabled. The construction of the world's 2.5G and 3G wireless
networks
alone, at some point, will drive the need for a dramatic increase in
the
pool of public IP addresses.
In addition, the emergence of Internet appliances and home networks,
along
with the ramp-up of Internet connectivity in populous countries such
as
China, Russia, and India, will soon be significant contributors to the
surge
in IP address consumption.
To future-proof Service Providers' Internet infrastructures, Cisco has
made
IP Version 6 (IPv6), as specified by the Internet Engineering Task
Force
(IETF), available at no charge in its latest release of Cisco IOS(r)
software for early adopters. Cisco is the first networking equipment
vendor
to implement IPv6 support across a wide array of routing platforms.
TECHNOLOGY BACKGROUND
IPv6 extends the address space in an IP packet from 32 bits to 128
bits.
This accommodates a much greater number of bit combinations, out of
which IP
addresses numbering into the trillions can be constructed. Standards
for 3G
networks-packet-switched wireless networks of up to 2-Mbps speeds that
will
be rolling out over the next several years-for example, mandate the use
of
IPv6 protocols.  In addition, the expected launch of an IPv6-compliant
release of the Microsoft Windows operating system late this year will
serve
as yet another significant driver.
Unlike with IPv4, Dynamic Host Control Protocol (DHCP) client software
is
not necessary for dynamically allocating available user IP addresses in
an
IPv6 access network. In addition, ongoing IETF IPv6 development work
will
enable Service Providers to automatically and remotely configure an IP
address on a customer's router, DSL modem, or cable modem. This
capability
slashes the time and expense associated with configuring CPE on a
customer-by-customer basis.
There are several ways IPv6 can be deployed to peacefully co-exist with
IPv4
infrastructures. One bullet-proof scenario has been used for years on
the
experimental 6Bone, a constantly growing international IPv6 test bed.
This
approach is to first deploy IPv6 in edge routers and tunnel IPv6
packets
over IPv4 or Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) backbones. This is a
cost-effective option, in that existing IPv4/MPLS backbone services can
be
maintained while updating only part of the network, and existing IPv4
revenues are not put in jeopardy.
CONFIGURATION CONSIDERATIONS
IPv6 is available at no charge in Cisco IOS Release 12.2(1)T for the
Cisco
800, 1400, 1600, 1700, 2500, 2600, 3600, 4500, 4700, 7100, 7200, and
7500
series routers, as well as the Cisco AS5300 and AS5400 universal
access
servers.
To minimize the Service Provider learning curve, commands for
configuring
IPv6 in Cisco software are the same as those for IPv4.
BENEFITS SUMMARY
By configuring Cisco IOS IPv6 services, Service Providers can work with
the
Cisco Technical Assistance Center (TAC) and systems engineers to plan
ahead
for future scalability and IPv4-IPv6 integration. Service Providers,
for
example, might wish to become early IPv6 adopters to:
* Learn about the IPv6 protocol set and train employees
* Plan the IPv6 integration and its co-existence with IPv4
* Develop a deployment scenario

FURTHER INFORMATION
For more information on IPv6 other Cisco software capabilities, visit
the
following URLs:
Cisco IPv6 Web Site:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/732/Tech/ipv6/ 
Cisco IOS IPv6 Statement of Direction
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/732/Tech/ipv6/ipv6_techdoc.shtml 
Internet Architecture Board: The Case for IPv6
http://www.6bone.net/misc/case-for-ipv6.html 
Cisco IOS Software Road Map
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/620/roadmap.shtml 

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Re: UNSUBSCRIBE [7:5526]

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auto-message with the URL to unsubscribe?  Hmm, actually, I'll just killfile
the keyword ;-)

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RE: Books for WAN Switching? [7:4072]

2001-05-23 Thread Greg Macaulay

A little late in answering mail -- but here goes anyhow!!

I d/l'd a manual from the CCO -- Cisco WAN Switching System Overview.  The
intro to this manual states: This publication provides an overview of the
operation of the BPX Service Node, IGX, IPX, and associated equipment.

I haven't gotten to it yet -- but just scanning it -- and the Cisco Press
book mentioned earlier -- I got the impression that it was by and large the
same book.  In any case, I think it is worth a read!

Greg Macaulay
Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth
Lifetime member of AARP
Retired Attorney/Law Professor


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Subject: Re: Books for WAN Switching? [7:4072]


Check out the Cisco Wan Switch (I think it's called Quick Start).  This is
one of the better Cisco books I've read.  The book is pretty much dedicated
to the Telco side of things.  I worked for a long hall DSL company, that
used MGX's, BPX's,  ATM.  This book was perfect for explaining what I knew
in practice, but did not understand in theory.

All the best
Phil
PS- Found the ISBN 157870104x

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From: JP
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 4:56 PM
Subject: Books for WAN Switching? [7:4072]


 Hi,

 Could any of you folks suggest some good books on cisco wan switching
(BPX,
 GX)?

 Thanks

 JP
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Re: How do I set up Windows DHCP for multiple VLANS? [7:5490]

2001-05-23 Thread Jason Roysdon

It's no different than using a single DHCP server for multiple subnets/lans.
Just because it has a V in front doesn't make it magical ;-)


Here, let Trinity help you learn about 'ip helper':
http://routergod.com/trinity/


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 You can do that easily. I am serving 50 Vlans with one DHCP server. Use
the
 Ip helper command on your interface to point to the DHCP server and
 configure all the scopes on the DHCP server and it will work fine.

 Regards,
 Anan

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 i'm supporting w2k network with 3 vlan
 once i have my dhcp server down in one of the vlan, and the clients still
 can get addresses from dhcp server on another vlan. means it is possible
to
 serve multiple vlan with 1 dhcp server.

 please correct me if i am wrong.
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RE: who said CCIE make big bucks? [7:5393]

2001-05-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

This group is for Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert,
NOT Culinary Certified Icing Experts 

Somehow, I am reminded that the original (in seniority) CIA is the 
Culinary Institute of America, not the Central Intelligence Agency.



--- Albert Lu  wrote:
  Well, if that is you. Then maybe it's time to move
  on to bigger and better
  things =)

  Albert

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Re: could a bgp reflector also be a client? [7:5528]

2001-05-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

As Andy says, hierarchical route reflection is perfectly reasonable 
and used operationally, but needs to be approached with caution. The 
most basic configuration issue, of course, is that the different 
levels of clusters mst have cluster IDs.

You definitely want to look at the most current route reflector RFC, 
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2796.txt which discusses some loop 
prevention issues -- there are nuances about, for example, 
intra-cluster to inter-cluster IGP metrics.


you can do for sure, but I'd approach it with caution - your root
route-reflectors, if you see what I mean, are going to get pretty heavily
loaded if there is significant transience out there.

Remember that R-Rs nedd to accept updates from all clients, and flood them
out to all other neighbors (client or not).  Imagine what would happen if
you have a two-layer hierarchy of RRs, whereby the clients at the bottom
pass on their updates to the mid-layer RRs, which in turn will pass on the
updates to the top-layer RRs, which have to flood out the updates

Another possibility would be that route flaps might become amplified - ie
generate multiple withdraw/announce pairs which would propagate through the
network, impacting any flap-damping that may be inplemented.

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-idr-route-oscillation-00.txt


What is normally done is to have a fully (iBGP - not neccesarily physical)
meshed backbone, with a pair of RRs at each major location, with them
feeding local RR clients from there.

hth

Andy




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RE: IPv^ info from Cisco [7:5602]

2001-05-23 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Time and effort, I would imagine. The expectation is that IPv6 will first be
deployed by the major ISP's in their backbone. I don't know, but would
imagine that the IETF has finalized their Ripv6 and BGPv6 standards already,
which is why those are incorporated.

Naw - I see that RFC 2740 is the OSPF standard. So it must just be an issue
with priorities.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/732/Tech/ipv6/

appears to be the link with the most Cisco specific information.

Chuck


-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John
Neiberger
Sent:   Wednesday, May 23, 2001 1:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: IPv^ info from Cisco [7:5602]

It appears that for routing protocols Cisco has only implented RIPv6
and BGP for IPv6 in 12.2T.  Is there any reason why they have chosen not
to implement EIGRP for IPv6?  It seems odd that in their first foray
into IPv6 that they would exclude their own routing protocol of choice.

John

 Chuck Larrieu  5/23/01 2:24:37 PM 
Just got this from Cisco, in case anyone is interested in Ipv6

-Original Message-
From:   Cisco Systems Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent:   Wednesday, May 23, 2001 1:05 PM
Subject:Cisco Beyond Basic IP Newsletter V2.21


IPv6 HELPS FUTURE-PROOF INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURES

Going forward, scaling the Internet to new dimensions will include a
worldwide requirement for a substantial increase in the volume of
available
IP addresses. The number of Internet-connected devices is
proliferating
rapidly. Mobile phone deployment, for example, is expected to reach
more
than 1 billion worldwide by 2005, and the majority of those phones will
be
Web-enabled. The construction of the world's 2.5G and 3G wireless
networks
alone, at some point, will drive the need for a dramatic increase in
the
pool of public IP addresses.
In addition, the emergence of Internet appliances and home networks,
along
with the ramp-up of Internet connectivity in populous countries such
as
China, Russia, and India, will soon be significant contributors to the
surge
in IP address consumption.
To future-proof Service Providers' Internet infrastructures, Cisco has
made
IP Version 6 (IPv6), as specified by the Internet Engineering Task
Force
(IETF), available at no charge in its latest release of Cisco IOS(r)
software for early adopters. Cisco is the first networking equipment
vendor
to implement IPv6 support across a wide array of routing platforms.
TECHNOLOGY BACKGROUND
IPv6 extends the address space in an IP packet from 32 bits to 128
bits.
This accommodates a much greater number of bit combinations, out of
which IP
addresses numbering into the trillions can be constructed. Standards
for 3G
networks-packet-switched wireless networks of up to 2-Mbps speeds that
will
be rolling out over the next several years-for example, mandate the use
of
IPv6 protocols.  In addition, the expected launch of an IPv6-compliant
release of the Microsoft Windows operating system late this year will
serve
as yet another significant driver.
Unlike with IPv4, Dynamic Host Control Protocol (DHCP) client software
is
not necessary for dynamically allocating available user IP addresses in
an
IPv6 access network. In addition, ongoing IETF IPv6 development work
will
enable Service Providers to automatically and remotely configure an IP
address on a customer's router, DSL modem, or cable modem. This
capability
slashes the time and expense associated with configuring CPE on a
customer-by-customer basis.
There are several ways IPv6 can be deployed to peacefully co-exist with
IPv4
infrastructures. One bullet-proof scenario has been used for years on
the
experimental 6Bone, a constantly growing international IPv6 test bed.
This
approach is to first deploy IPv6 in edge routers and tunnel IPv6
packets
over IPv4 or Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) backbones. This is a
cost-effective option, in that existing IPv4/MPLS backbone services can
be
maintained while updating only part of the network, and existing IPv4
revenues are not put in jeopardy.
CONFIGURATION CONSIDERATIONS
IPv6 is available at no charge in Cisco IOS Release 12.2(1)T for the
Cisco
800, 1400, 1600, 1700, 2500, 2600, 3600, 4500, 4700, 7100, 7200, and
7500
series routers, as well as the Cisco AS5300 and AS5400 universal
access
servers.
To minimize the Service Provider learning curve, commands for
configuring
IPv6 in Cisco software are the same as those for IPv4.
BENEFITS SUMMARY
By configuring Cisco IOS IPv6 services, Service Providers can work with
the
Cisco Technical Assistance Center (TAC) and systems engineers to plan
ahead
for future scalability and IPv4-IPv6 integration. Service Providers,
for
example, might wish to become early IPv6 adopters to:
* Learn about the IPv6 protocol set and train employees
* Plan the IPv6 integration and its co-existence with IPv4
* Develop a deployment scenario

FURTHER INFORMATION
For more information on IPv6 other Cisco software capabilities, visit
the

Re: Books with product suggestions? [7:5568]

2001-05-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Hello!

I was wondering if anyone had run across a book that recommends products to
use in certain situations? There seems to be so many solutions, and modules
that you can add to each product, that I am confused about when you would
want to take one route over another.

For example, say the situation calls for the multiplexing of a few T1s. The
book might say you can do this with this series of routers, just adding this
module, and following these procedures:

And it might say, you can also accomplish this by attaching this sort of
equipment to a serial interface; however, there are some drawbacks and here
is what they are:

(Those examples are completely made up, and I don't know what I'm talking
about!)

I would hope to find something like this in a design book of somekind, but I
haven't even looked at any.



As with everything else, It Depends.  In my own design books, I will 
often review the options in the kinds of boxes that you might 
interconnect for a given solution, but the rate of change of specific 
products is so fast that book publication time cycles are far too 
long to stay current.

Not :-) like courseware such as CID, which for years had a Cisco ATM 
Products slide in which EVERY component had been discontinued, or, at 
the very least, superceded by one or two generations.




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RE: HELP!!! Need to know cable type! [7:5579]

2001-05-23 Thread Pelletier, Michael P. (AIT)

Craig,  I think the PA-1A-OC3-MM takes a SC type connector.  As for the
LS100 What type of interface card are you using?

Mike P

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Hello,

Could someone please let me know what type of multimode patch cables I would
need for a PA-1A-OC3-MM and a ls100
??  Please let me know, as I am in need of this immediately.  I know there
are st, sc, sma, etc. types, I just need to know which I will need for this.

Thanks so much,
Craig

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Re: IPv^ info from Cisco [7:5602]

2001-05-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

It appears that for routing protocols Cisco has only implented RIPv6
and BGP for IPv6 in 12.2T.  Is there any reason why they have chosen not
to implement EIGRP for IPv6?  It seems odd that in their first foray
into IPv6 that they would exclude their own routing protocol of choice.

John

Think about it.  Aren't the early adopters for v6 likely to be 
interested in multivendor interoperability?

Although I do hope to see OSPFv6 soon -- it has some backwards 
compatibility, and solves a number of OSPFv2 limitations.




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OT: C3660 Fan Issue [7:5616]

2001-05-23 Thread John Neiberger

We recently purchased a used 3660 and we get the following entries in
the logs:

00:22:33: %FAN-3-FAN_FAILED: Fan 6 had a rotation error reported.
00:23:03: %FAN-3-FAN_OK: Fan 6 had earlier reported a rotation error.
It is ok now

This was originally happening just with Fan #6 so we replaced the fan
assembly and we're now seeing it with all fans.  We put the first
assembly back on the router and the behavior continues.

Have any of you seen this on 3660 routers?  Is this a fairly common
issue?  The fans are all spinning but the error seems to indicate that
they're not spinning at the proper speed.  I'm not very worried, just
annoyed.

I've searched CCO and can find no mention of this sort of behavior
except in the context of a truly failed fan.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
John




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Frame-Relay Lab - Back to Back Conection [7:5615]

2001-05-23 Thread Jesus Espinoza

I have three routers with serials interfaces and I
would like to try some configurations with frame
relay. The routers have V.35 physical cables and I
would like to test the following configuration (back
to back):

 -- s0s0  --
| ROUTER 1 |-| ROUTER 2 |
 --   --
 Frame Relay Encapsulation

What physical connection I need to use to connect the
routers, just to try a Frame Relay Configuration? What
cables I need to use or to find ? I mean, I don't know
how to make the physical connection to simulate a
Frame Relay situation. 

Thanks in advance.
Ciscoven.

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CVOICE Materials [7:5617]

2001-05-23 Thread Christopher Young

Does anyone have any suggestions on study materials for the CVOICE exam?
Study guides, etc...

thanks,

Christopher




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RE: Books with product suggestions? [7:5568]

2001-05-23 Thread Chuck Larrieu

An interesting approach, if one can lay hands on it, is to be found in the
Cisco Products quick Reference Guide, which for each of the Cisco product
categories suggests appropriate situations for use, and competitor products
the Cisco product competes with directly.

Published semi-annually. There is a new one out, but Cisco has yet to mail
me my copy. Maybe due to the cost of postage and their current financial
situation? ;-

Chuck

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Subject:Re: Books with product suggestions? [7:5568]

Hello!

I was wondering if anyone had run across a book that recommends products to
use in certain situations? There seems to be so many solutions, and modules
that you can add to each product, that I am confused about when you would
want to take one route over another.

For example, say the situation calls for the multiplexing of a few T1s. The
book might say you can do this with this series of routers, just adding
this
module, and following these procedures:

And it might say, you can also accomplish this by attaching this sort of
equipment to a serial interface; however, there are some drawbacks and here
is what they are:

(Those examples are completely made up, and I don't know what I'm talking
about!)

I would hope to find something like this in a design book of somekind, but
I
haven't even looked at any.



As with everything else, It Depends.  In my own design books, I will
often review the options in the kinds of boxes that you might
interconnect for a given solution, but the rate of change of specific
products is so fast that book publication time cycles are far too
long to stay current.

Not :-) like courseware such as CID, which for years had a Cisco ATM
Products slide in which EVERY component had been discontinued, or, at
the very least, superceded by one or two generations.
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Re: OT -- BGP scalability [7:5468]

2001-05-23 Thread Jason Roysdon

Being in California, I get to see my UPSes tested a lot if I like it or not.

In my limited global BGP experience, one problem is the limitations on
Independent, Portable IP space.  If ARIN is unwilling to assign less than a
/20, then you're forced to use Provider non-Portable IP space.  Furthermore,
if you're multihoming you're more likely to use the additional IP space you
get from each provider (it's much easier to get 1-3 class Cs up front from a
new ISP then to go back to an existing ISP and get more).

For this reason, we've got 7 /24s and one /23 from 3 different ISPs.  If we
could even get a /21 from ARIN it would make much more sense to me.  Then,
instead of announcing 8 different routes it'd be one single route.

I haven't even begin to look into IPv6 yet, but this is one way IP
allocation could be greatly enhanced:  Right now netblocks are assigned to
ISPs/customers in direct sequence (or even ISPs that sub-delegate them to
customers in sequence).  So if you only need one /24, you get only one, and
in 6 mos. if you need more, you're going to get one that isn't anywhere near
the other.

But instead, if they kept large gaps between allocation for future growth,
when an end customer needs more IP space, they're just assigned the next
blocks and the bits in the mask grow (and from a global point of you, that'd
be all you see, no extra blocks announced with an existing AS's growth, just
a change in bit mask).

Of course this isn't practical with IPv4, but I'm hoping that's how IPv6 is
being allocated.  Of course, you might say Why not just assign really big
netblocks to everyone that wants them since the IP space is so big?.  In
short sight it might not be a bad idea, but that's the same sort of thinking
that go us in trouble with classful assignments and entire class A blocks
going to companies.

Oh, I'm probably just rambling.  Well, I'm sure of it, but perhaps I'm
making some sense.

Of course when you consider the lack of support for IPv6 thus far... I mean
Cisco IOS doesn't even support it (yet).

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/732/Tech/ipv6/
http://www.totaltele.com/view.asp?articleID=39924Pub=TTcategoryid=626kw=c
isco

Looks like 12.2(1)T will, but many won't use non-General Release versions,
so that puts it another quarter away in 12.3.

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Howard C. Berkowitz  wrote in message
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 (with a red face, reconstructing my original response.  We're having
 a violent thunderstorm, and the power went out. I saved a lot of
 things, but trusted my UPS. Unfortunately, the UPS is much more
 helpful when the CPU is plugged into one of the battery backup
 outlets, not a surge protector outlet.  Now it is!)

 Priscilla wrote, in response to John Hardman,



 Well, you're preaching to the choir, but I have a couple comments in line
 nonetheless. A really technical discussion would require more knowledge
of
 statistics, queuing theory, etc., than I have. But it can't hurt to
discuss
 the issues at a high level also.
 
 
 
 In the phone industry, we can use Erlang and other obscure methods for
 calculating the amount of bandwidth needed based on an acceptable
frequency
 of someone picking up the phone and not getting dial tone. Why can't we
do
 something similar with networking? I suspect it's because network traffic
 is so different from phone traffic. We claim that network traffic is
 bursty, but it's not nearly as bursty as phone traffic. There's very
 little quiet time. Even if the user isn't doing something there's still
 overhead traffic, keepalives, routing table updates, etc. The
consequences
 of not being able to send this overhead traffic can result in serious
 performance degradation.

 While Erlang C distributions can be of some use in estimating
 buffered data network device capacity, the statistical aspects get
 complex.  The conventional wisdom was that packet interarrivals
 were exponential, but more recent research (e.g., by Will Leland at
 Telecordia) showed that fractal distributions were much more
 accurate.  There's also the aspect that traffic in a routed system is
 actively affected by congestion and other feedback.

 A surprisingly large number of Internet packets are 40 to 48 bytes.
 These turn out to be TCP, and primarily HTTP, acknowledgements,
 possibly with some buffer padding beyond the essential 20 bytes of IP
 and 20 bytes of TCP.  HTTP is _not_ bandwidth efficient, or address
 space efficient, but there's a lot of inertia in upgrading it.

 
 
   
 Now this begs the next question... do people need 99.999% uptime on the
 phone system or on their network? Keep in mind that 99.999% uptime
equals
 to
 apx 1 minute of downtime per 30 days.

 And adding each additional nine adds a lot of cost.  Also, adding
 redundancy in particular parts of the overall system doesn't
 necessarily make things better.  Perhaps going 

RE: IPv^ info from Cisco [7:5602]

2001-05-23 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Is there something more recent than RFC 2740? Or earlier?

The RIPngv6 RFC 2080 looks like it was completed two years earlier than
OSPF.

Chuck

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It appears that for routing protocols Cisco has only implented RIPv6
and BGP for IPv6 in 12.2T.  Is there any reason why they have chosen not
to implement EIGRP for IPv6?  It seems odd that in their first foray
into IPv6 that they would exclude their own routing protocol of choice.

John

Think about it.  Aren't the early adopters for v6 likely to be
interested in multivendor interoperability?

Although I do hope to see OSPFv6 soon -- it has some backwards
compatibility, and solves a number of OSPFv2 limitations.
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VoIP redudancy [7:5621]

2001-05-23 Thread Jason Roysdon

VoIP requires a lot of redundancy, from my experience so far.  Granted, each
site has all it's voice and data trunks going to the same CO.  For instance
in a current install:

12 Small offices (10-20 phones):
4 voice trunks
2 backup BRIs (for extra voice trunks and/or backup data)
Full/Fractional T1 to frame relay cloud

Main site (80 phones):
T1 PRI for voice w/DID
T1 PRI for data (analog dialup users mainly, backup lines for remote BRIs)
Multiple T1s to frame clouds

If all local trunks at a branch are in use, the last line forwards to a DID
on the PRI and forwards back internally to that site.

If the frame goes down, we've got enough BRIs to still function (in a much
more limited capacity, but the VoIP network has priority and won't go down,
data will suffer but still work and is primarilly terminal/text based or
Citrix clients).

We purposely have a small number of trunks at each site (most sites
originally had 6-10 trunks), but part of the goal here is to save money with
less trunks and also do toll-bypass (this customer has
suppliers/customers/sites all over California, Neveda and Oregon).  Also
there is the advantage of faster data paths when the dynamically allocated
VoIP isn't in use.

So far, it seems to work good (only 2 remote sites up so far, working out
kinks with other items like Unity voicemail/faxing and just waiting on frame
circuits to be upgraded).  3 remote sites will probably be brought up in the
next month, so we'll see how well it all scales (shouldn't matter, the
hardest was just getting it all working right with the first 2 remote
sites).

Even though it's not dynamic, if for instance one sites local telco was
having analog trunk problems, we could block all calls from being routed out
those trunks (which I guess you can do in a traditional PBX system, but you
probably wouldn't be doing with key systems which would be going in these
small offices).  We're actually doing that for the second of two sites to
keep the local trunks open for incoming calls as the local telco goofed on a
date to have the trunks forward long distance, so if all 4 local trunks are
in use the 5th+ caller get forwarded to the other 4 trunks no longer in use
and get a disconnect message.

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John Neiberger  wrote in message
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 Aside from Priscilla (not Geoff Huston): What if the phone system had
 evolved this way? How many companies have redundant trunk lines? Don't
 we
 just assume that the phone company will always provide service? We
 don't
 multihome to the phone system, (do we?)

 [Warning: Slightly OT]

 Actually, here at our corporate headquarters we have redundant fiber
 connections to separate telco central offices.   The fiber links exit on
 opposite sides of the building to frustrate Backhoe Bob in case he tries
 to cut through them.  These links carry two separate channelized DS-3s
 that carry our voice and data circuits.  Theoretically, you could bomb
 one of the CO and we'd be just fine; both DS-3s would stay up and
 running without a hiccup.  I hope we never have occasion to test this.


 John
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Re: Pix with 2 different ISPs [7:5349]

2001-05-23 Thread Jason Roysdon

I believe you need a router on the outside to determine where the packets
go.  I can't think of how you could get the PIX to route based on source
(there are not route-maps).  All you can do is permit/deny based on
source...

A sort of load balancing that you could do for a server would be to bind
two private IPs (each pointing to public IPs from the two different ISPs)
and have DNS point to both public addresses.  That would tend to load
balance the incoming traffic without getting into BGP.

On the external router, you would just use a route-map to determine based on
source address which ISP to route back through.

Mind you there is no redundancy here.  You'll need BGP for that, and even
then you might not get global redundancy.

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Tai Ngo  wrote in message
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 Hi All,

 Can somebody tell me if this is possible?  If so, please provide
 configuration details.   We have 2 ISPs, one that is 204.23.23.x and the
 other is 205.23.23.x.  We have 2 Pix firewalls, one which is configured
 for active with both outside interfaces.  The other pix is configured as
 standby.  Will the Pix firewall be smart enough to know how to route
 traffic back out the network it came from?  For example, if a user came
 into our website from 204.23.23.x , will the Pix know how to route the
 info back out that interface instead of through the 205.23.23.x network?


 My guess is it's not possible because when you look at the configuration
 on the Pix, to route info outside, you would use route 0.0.0.0
 204.23.23.x 1 .

 Thanks!
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Re: C3660 Fan Issue [7:5616]

2001-05-23 Thread Allen May

I've never seen it on a router but a server did that once.  It turned out to
be the sensor for fan speed was bad  giving false errors.
- Original Message -
From: John Neiberger 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 4:32 PM
Subject: OT: C3660 Fan Issue [7:5616]


 We recently purchased a used 3660 and we get the following entries in
 the logs:

 00:22:33: %FAN-3-FAN_FAILED: Fan 6 had a rotation error reported.
 00:23:03: %FAN-3-FAN_OK: Fan 6 had earlier reported a rotation error.
 It is ok now

 This was originally happening just with Fan #6 so we replaced the fan
 assembly and we're now seeing it with all fans.  We put the first
 assembly back on the router and the behavior continues.

 Have any of you seen this on 3660 routers?  Is this a fairly common
 issue?  The fans are all spinning but the error seems to indicate that
 they're not spinning at the proper speed.  I'm not very worried, just
 annoyed.

 I've searched CCO and can find no mention of this sort of behavior
 except in the context of a truly failed fan.

 Any thoughts?

 Thanks,
 John
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RE: C3660 Fan Issue [7:5616]

2001-05-23 Thread Daniel Cotts

Two thoughts:
1) Are the fans clean.
2) If they run directly on house current, check your voltages.

 -Original Message-
 From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 4:33 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: C3660 Fan Issue [7:5616]
 
 
 We recently purchased a used 3660 and we get the following entries in
 the logs:
 
 00:22:33: %FAN-3-FAN_FAILED: Fan 6 had a rotation error reported.
 00:23:03: %FAN-3-FAN_OK: Fan 6 had earlier reported a rotation error.
 It is ok now
 
 This was originally happening just with Fan #6 so we replaced the fan
 assembly and we're now seeing it with all fans.  We put the first
 assembly back on the router and the behavior continues.
 
 Have any of you seen this on 3660 routers?  Is this a fairly common
 issue?  The fans are all spinning but the error seems to indicate that
 they're not spinning at the proper speed.  I'm not very worried, just
 annoyed.
 
 I've searched CCO and can find no mention of this sort of behavior
 except in the context of a truly failed fan.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 John
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Hey guys..about my Cisco equipment list...for CCNP [7:5625]

2001-05-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi guys:

I was trying to figure out if I needed any extra equipment to get my CCNP.  
I'm currently working on CCNA but wanted to know if I need anything else.  
Here is my current equipment.

TWO 2501 Cisco Routers
ONE 2503 
ONE 2514
ONE 804 ISDN router
ONE 1924EN switch
TWO 16 port Netgear hubs
TWO Adtran NT1 ACE
ONE TelTone ISDN simulator
ONE 5002 switch with Supervisor ONE and 12-port 10/100
SIX workstations

Do I need to get another 1924EN switch as someone said I should.. or is my 
equipment list complete. I'm only going for my CCNP and stopping there.  

Please let me know your insights.

thankx
Timmy




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Re: Can an NP-2T serial module do DCE? [7:5594]

2001-05-23 Thread Circusnuts

Yes- it's a V2 interface !!!  The only V2 interfaces I know of that cannot
do DCE/ Clockrate are the 3102 routers.

Phil

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From: Tim Medley 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 1:30 PM
Subject: Can an NP-2T serial module do DCE? [7:5594]


 I have a 4000 router with a NP-2T 2port serial module (the big V2 50 pin
 connectors) I was thinking that this module cannot do DCE, only DTE.
 Today I noticed a DCE light on the back of the serial module.

 Can this module do DCE?

 tim medley
 network architect
 iReadyWorld VoIP Group
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Re: CVOICE Materials [7:5617]

2001-05-23 Thread Circusnuts

Yes- I just ordered them all from BAM yesterday...

1  1578702275 CISCO VOICE OVER FRAME RELAY A   43.20
1  1578701686 VOICE OVER IP FUNDAMENTALS   45.00
 1  1578701961 VOICE DATA INTEGRATION ON CISC   39.60

Phil

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From: Christopher Young 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:37 PM
Subject: CVOICE Materials [7:5617]


 Does anyone have any suggestions on study materials for the CVOICE exam?
 Study guides, etc...

 thanks,

 Christopher
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