Re: [newbie-it] Fwd: Sceda Tv
I Cha scheda hai? Io, con la scheda wintv, ho come unico problema che devo ogni volta, all'inizio, settare Video source: Television. Per un motivo misterioso non l'accetta nello script. Ho visto però che nella versione che c'è sulla nuova beta Mandrake 8.1 questo problemino non c'è più. Puo darsi che il tuo problema sia un fatto di permessi (se funziona solo in root...) controlla. C'è un file che viene letto all'inizio che contiene i settaggi. E' nella tua home directory e si chiama .xawtv . Controlla i permessi. Spero che serva, e scusa se ho scritto invece delle cose ovvie. Tommaso Caro Tommaso non preoccuparti di scrivere cose ovvie, perché spesso le soluzioni si nascondono dietro risposte ovvie, purtroppo l'uomo tende a complicarsi la vita con risposte dotte, anch'io ho una wintv Haup..., in ogni caso appena controllato il file ti faccio sapere i risultati. Grazie. viger71.
[newbie-it] TeX o LaTex
Ciao, per esigenze di lavoro avrei bisogno di apprendere il TeX, qualcuno sà indicarmi se ci sono manuali in italiano, anche in formato cartaceo. Grazie per l'aiuto Cristiano
[newbie-it] aiuto: accesso negato a floppy e cdrom
Salve a tutti, sono nuovo in Linux e non so fare quasi niente, quindi se qualcuno mi dà una mano ne sarò riconoscente. Improvvisamente, inspiegabilmente, quando cerco di accedere a cdrom o a floppy il sistema risponde: impossibile accedere al file /mnt/cdrom non hai i diritti di accesso alla cartella. Io ho provato ad accedervi come root ma ho avuto la stessa risposta. Cosa posso fare? Grazie Fabio Congiu
Re: [newbie-it] TeX o LaTex
Dovrebbe esserci quello che fa al caso tuo qui: ftp://ftp.pluto.linux.it/pub/pluto/ildp/misc/impara_latex ciao ste On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciao, per esigenze di lavoro avrei bisogno di apprendere il TeX, qualcuno sà indicarmi se ci sono manuali in italiano, anche in formato cartaceo. Grazie per l'aiuto Cristiano - Stefano Barberis WEB home page: http://sgimida.mi.infn.it/~ste -
Re: [newbie-it] TeX o LaTex
On Friday 07 September 2001 16:38, Stefano Barberis wrote: Dovrebbe esserci quello che fa al caso tuo qui: ftp://ftp.pluto.linux.it/pub/pluto/ildp/misc/impara_latex guarda pure qui: http://linux.interpuntonet.it/manuali.php3 su appunti linux anche, che inter.net sta pubblicando in formato cartaceo. bye -- Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia http://www.acidlife.com/mayhem/freefred/ Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://62.149.147.100/~freefred/ ICQ uin 5887365 - PGP key available on keyservers
[newbie-it] Aiuto
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Re: [newbie-it] Aiuto
quando lo scopri dimmelo... --- bricco Tiscali [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: non so più qual'è il sito al quale mi sono iscritto per questa mailing list, come faccio a cancellarmi? __ Do You Yahoo!? Il tuo indirizzo gratis e per sempre @yahoo.it su http://mail.yahoo.it
Re: [newbie-it] aiuto: accesso negato a floppy e cdrom
brain wrote: Fabio Congiu ha scritto: provato ad accedervi come root ma ho avuto la stessa risposta. Cosa posso fare? Montarli? ;-) Sotto Linux prima di poter utilizzare un qualsiasi disco devi farlo riconoscere al sistema attraverso l'operazione di mount... da console: # mount /mnt/cdrom # mount /mnt/floppy [sono due versioni semplificate del comando mount, che richiederebbe molti piu` parametri nel caso non esistesse il file /etc/fstab] Ricordati di smontare i dischi prima di rimuoverli e/o cambiarli!!! # umount /mnt/cdrom # umount /mnt/floppy -- Ciao brain - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...rispondo da completo neofita...ma mandrake a me mi monta automaticamente sia il cdrom che il floppy...e non ho bisogno di dargli comandi di mount o unmount (si chiama supermount tutto questo?) comunque...cliccando sull'icona cdrom ti da il msg di errore sia che tu metta cd audio, sia che tu metta cd dati? a me dava errore solo con i cd audio...e poi, su questa ml, qualcuno mi ha fatto notare che i cd audio non sono visti come da uindos, che ti elenca i brani come se fossero files, quindi mi ha consigliato di entrare dentro al cd musicale aprendo un programma CD-player...mi sono sentito un poco idiota a non averci pensato... ...ciao osva
Re: [newbie-it] Aiuto
www.linux-mandrake.com = mailing list e segui quello che dice :) lol PS salve a tutta la list sono sempre Spider ma ho cambiato mail.un saluto! by Spider - Original Message - From: bricco Tiscali [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 8:44 PM Subject: [newbie-it] Aiuto non so più qual'è il sito al quale mi sono iscritto per questa mailing list, come faccio a cancellarmi?
Re: [newbie] new linux drivers for nvidia cards Version: 1.0-1512 (LONG POST)
Hi I downloaded and tried the new drivers last night, as well as the very impressive PDF file that is now available. My System (for reference I 'm only listing things related to the speed of graphics): AMD k6-2 550Mhz 384Megs of Ram Fujistu 14 Gig HDD GA-5AA (Gigabyte ALI) Mobo Geforce 2 MX I'm using the out the box Mandrake 8 kernel. Install of the drivers was fine. I used Quake 3 Arena, Unreal Tournament, Reflect, Gears, Morph and glTron before and after the upgrade as tests and they all worked fine. I used Gears to do a small before and after bench mark as well. Before (12.41 Version Drivers) (FPS are taken in 5 second groups for the first 15 seconds) 642.5 FPS 779.4 FPS 857.0 FPS. Which gives you an average of 759.6 FPS over the 15 seconds. After (15.12) 709.8 FPS 889.2 FPS 878.8 FPS Which gives you an average of 825.93 FPS over the 15 seconds. That means there is a 66.33 FPS increase between the different versions. There are also 2 new features that I found that I really liked. First there is now support for a hardware cursor shadow, I tried to get a screen shot of but northing takes screen shots of cursors, which looks really good. It takes time to get use to it. The other feature is now the ability to get your refresh rates straight from your monitors EDID, instead of the XFConfig-4 file.Which means you should not have refresh rate problems anymore, or problems with going into a resolution that your monitor doesn't support. On the whole it is worth the upgrade ;) Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: mike cola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 5:39 AM Subject: [newbie] new linux drivers for nvidia cards Version: 1.0-1512 the new linux drivers Version: 1.0-1512 for nvidia cards are out now at http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=linux .. im getting my geforce2mx next week so anyone already running these drivers? any feedback? thanks mikecola ...Who's the big winner tonight...? Mikey! Mikey wins! Mikey's the big winner...!- Trent Double Down (Vince Vaughn) -- www.pherell.com TECHNO melbourne style. heard it yet? mike thinks you should Your Lowrider Community... http://www.lowrider.com Your Personalized Page Start Page... http://my.lowrider.com -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] RAM: How much is enough?
To paraphrase... Cool. Those are memorable but obscure references. I was delighted at your amazing retrieval. -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-Original Message- |From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 7:04 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [newbie] RAM: How much is enough? | | |I maintain a collection of interesting quotes. Whenever I come |across something I like, I add it to the collection. Some of |them make great e-mail signatures :-) | |On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 04:13:55 -0400, Jose M. Sanchez |[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Where did you look all of this up? | | -JMS | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | |-Original Message- | |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sridhar | |Dhanapalan | |Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:32 PM | |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; | |[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Subject: Re: [newbie] RAM: How much is enough? | | | | | |On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:54, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: | | That one is right up there with memorable sayings from CEO's... | | | | Another of my favorites was DEC's CEO saying that no one |would ever | | have or tolerate a computer at home. | | | |There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their | |home. -- Ken | |Olson, President, Chairman and Founder of Digital Equipment |Corp., 1977 | | | |And, of course, this famous quote: | | | |I think there is a world market for maybe five computers -- | |Thomas J. | |Watson, Chaiman of IBM, 1943. | | | |And a few more: | | | |I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating | |system, and | |possibly program, of all time. As the successor to DOS, |which has over | |10,000,000 systems in use, it creates incredible opportunities | |for everyone | |involved with PCs. -- Bill Gates (from the Foreword to the | |OS/2 Programmers' | |Guide) | | | |Anyone who says you can have a lot of widely dispersed people | |hack away on a | |complicated piece of code and avoid total anarchy has never |managed a | |software project. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum, 1992, writing to | |Linus Torvalds. | | | | Or at SIG-GRAPH, one of the VP's from Evans and Sutherland | |saying that | | PC's would never have enough graphics horsepower to do anything in | | real time... | | | | BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Sanchez;Jose;M FN:Jose M Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ORG:Net Results, Inc.;Lan Support TITLE:Lan Support TEL;WORK;VOICE:301-972-8271 TEL;HOME;VOICE:301-972-8507 TEL;CELL;VOICE:301-502-0151 TEL;WORK;FAX:301-349-2201 TEL;HOME;FAX:301-349-2201 ADR;WORK:;301-972-8271;17206 Spates Hill Road;Poolesville;Maryland;20837;United States LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:301-972-8271=0D=0A17206 Spates Hill Road=0D=0APoolesville, Maryland 20837= =0D=0AUnited States ADR;HOME:;;17206 Spates Hill Road;Poolesville;Maryland;20837;United States LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:17206 Spates Hill Road=0D=0APoolesville, Maryland 20837=0D=0AUnited States URL: URL:http://opjose.homeip.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20010825T134515Z END:VCARD Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] HELP: QuickCam USB for Mandrake 8.0
Title: Message I have one of these puppies as well. AFAIK Logitech stomped on reverse engineering efforts... -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark WheelerSent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:32 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [newbie] HELP: QuickCam USB for Mandrake 8.0 I get 'no cameras detected' with gphoto. I guess what I really need is a working/hack driver for the Quickcam Pro (USB). -Original Message-From: Michael Spivak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:29 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [newbie] HELP: QuickCam USB for Mandrake 8.0 Did you check the gphoto ? -Original Message-From: Mark Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:07 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [newbie] HELP: QuickCam USB for Mandrake 8.0 The camera is a logitech quickcam pro, no smart media. The express drivers were useless for me. I get the same results with xawtv and webcam; 'no device at /dev/video.' I have a Lifeview Robocam working on another Mandrake machine, I had to do no extra tweaking to get it to work. I believe it uses the OV511? driver. -Original Message- From: Michael Spivak Sent: Thu 9/6/2001 7:44 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rob Cc: Subject: RE: [newbie] HELP: QuickCam USB for Mandrake 8.0 Does your camera have some storage device (like SmartMedia) ?-Original Message-From: etharp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 12:45 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RobSubject: Re: [newbie] HELP: QuickCam USB for Mandrake 8.0try a web search on google for openh323 and openphone and openmcu.On Thursday 06 September 2001 00:58, Rob wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:24 am, you wrote: there is a quickcam express driver in development at www.sourceforge.net. Right now it's in Alpha development (seems it been for in development for over a year) I've manage to get it working for my cam. just wish there were a netmeeting for linux or something like compatible like to work with a windows conferencing versions. I have a Logitech QuickCam Pro (light ring). This device is Recognized in Mandrake 8.0. My question is, now what? How do I retrieve images with it. I have been going around in circles Installing gqcam, xawtv, etc. I get errors with xawtv, with /dev/video0: no such device. Thanks, MarkContent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bitContent-Description: BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Sanchez;Jose;M FN:Jose M Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ORG:Net Results, Inc.;Lan Support TITLE:Lan Support TEL;WORK;VOICE:301-972-8271 TEL;HOME;VOICE:301-972-8507 TEL;CELL;VOICE:301-502-0151 TEL;WORK;FAX:301-349-2201 TEL;HOME;FAX:301-349-2201 ADR;WORK:;301-972-8271;17206 Spates Hill Road;Poolesville;Maryland;20837;United States LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:301-972-8271=0D=0A17206 Spates Hill Road=0D=0APoolesville, Maryland 20837= =0D=0AUnited States ADR;HOME:;;17206 Spates Hill Road;Poolesville;Maryland;20837;United States LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:17206 Spates Hill Road=0D=0APoolesville, Maryland 20837=0D=0AUnited States URL: URL:http://opjose.homeip.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20010825T134515Z END:VCARD Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Gator for Linux?
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 18:05:56 -0700 (PDT), Peter Rymshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a program like Gator that works on Linux? I'm refering to the free Windows program available at gator.com that automatically or manually completes forms with name, address, etc. as well as filling in ID and password. Would you really trust a closed-source app that's been proven to contain spyware with your passwords? I certainly wouldn't. The latter is part of Netscape 6.1, but I miss the convenience of filling out forms without typing. The issue here is with security. If you store your passwords on a computer, they should be stored securely (e.g. encrypted) do that a potential cracker can't access it. Netscape 6.x and Mozilla have a Password Manager that can take care of passwords for you. It is safe, employing strong encryption. Since Mozilla is open source (and Netscape 6.x is based on Mozilla), you are guaranteed that there won't be any spyware. Konqueror has IE-style autocompletion for forms, although it wisely disables it for passwords. Opera has preset form completion settings, so that when you right-click a form you have the option of automatically adding things like your name, address and telephone number with only a few clicks. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Accessing DOS partitions from Linux Mandrake
On Thu, 06 Sep 2001 20:55:29 -0700 Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: Howdy gang! Quite an evening. Got Linux installed, X-windows working, and even connected to the Internet. So, I need to access some large data files on the DOS side of this beastie. It's like 5 Mb, so a floppy is out. I'd rather not upload to the FTP server at work and then download, as my connection is only 28.8 out here in the woods. I remember in another life using a doscp commmand (SCO Unix, I think, circa 1990.) Can't find anything similar in this Linux package, nor on the Mandrake site. Any suggestions? = If you're dual booting, it's likely Mandrake put your DOS/Win partition in your /etc/fstab Check that file to see what your dos partiiton is called (perhaps /mnt/win) If your dos partition is not mounted by default, in a console type mount /mnt/win (or whatever your dos partition is called, BTW don't use the quotes). Then simply cp /mnt/win/path_to_file /home/you/whatever_folder (again w/o the quotes and using the appropriate directory names). HTH, Mike -- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Accessing DOS partitions from Linux Mandrake
Find out on which partition your DOS is loaded on and mount it onto any directory you would have created under linux. While mounting it specify the filesystem type, in your case it is dos. also read the mount manpage. biki On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Randy wrote... Howdy gang! Quite an evening. Got Linux installed, X-windows working, and even connected to the Internet. So, I need to access some large data files on the DOS side of this beastie. It's like 5 Mb, so a floppy is out. I'd rather not upload to the FTP server at work and then download, as my connection is only 28.8 out here in the woods. I remember in another life using a doscp commmand (SCO Unix, I think, circa 1990.) Can't find anything similar in this Linux package, nor on the Mandrake site. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance Bear Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling Disk Quotas
Type man edquota on your shell prompt On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, jrodri wrote... Hi everyone I hope that someone could help me with these... I'm trying to set quotas for my users, i want that each user of a group named mailgroup has a restriction of 5 Mb of space on disk, i already have mount my filesystem with quotas support... so I guess that i'm on half of the way... I already read the setquotas man... but i did'nt get so much of it... i need just an real command line example.. :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already
Better yet, it downloads, installs and configures Linux to replace any active XP/NT/2K servers with it. It does this so seemlessly that the transition is not noticed for months, and then usually by accident. Ah, we can dream. -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Franki |Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 8:41 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: RE: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already | | |well, then we need to write something like code red, that |looks for 2 weeks for XP installations, and infects them if it |finds any, then two weeks after that, it formats the computer |its on's XP partition... | | |optionally it could also download linux in that two weeks so |they have a recourse when XP disapears... :-) | | BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Sanchez;Jose;M FN:Jose M Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ORG:Net Results, Inc.;Lan Support TITLE:Lan Support TEL;WORK;VOICE:301-972-8271 TEL;HOME;VOICE:301-972-8507 TEL;CELL;VOICE:301-502-0151 TEL;WORK;FAX:301-349-2201 TEL;HOME;FAX:301-349-2201 ADR;WORK:;301-972-8271;17206 Spates Hill Road;Poolesville;Maryland;20837;United States LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:301-972-8271=0D=0A17206 Spates Hill Road=0D=0APoolesville, Maryland 20837= =0D=0AUnited States ADR;HOME:;;17206 Spates Hill Road;Poolesville;Maryland;20837;United States LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:17206 Spates Hill Road=0D=0APoolesville, Maryland 20837=0D=0AUnited States URL: URL:http://opjose.homeip.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20010825T134515Z END:VCARD Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already
wouldn't work. they would notice after 10 minutes. mainly because the server hasn't crashed, been hacked or gotten a virus in that time ;) Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: Jose M. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:56 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already Better yet, it downloads, installs and configures Linux to replace any active XP/NT/2K servers with it. It does this so seemlessly that the transition is not noticed for months, and then usually by accident. Ah, we can dream. -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Franki |Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 8:41 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: RE: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already | | |well, then we need to write something like code red, that |looks for 2 weeks for XP installations, and infects them if it |finds any, then two weeks after that, it formats the computer |its on's XP partition... | | |optionally it could also download linux in that two weeks so |they have a recourse when XP disapears... :-) | | -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux not loading
What is the specific error message you are getting and where? Steve Flynn NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst * 01603 687386 -Original Message- From: Paul Chandler [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] Linux not loading Hi, i have installed linux and winMe at the same time. When i try to load linux it just comes up with some info about nothing in DOS then freezes (or just does nothing). Windows still works. My pc is a P3 850mhz, 128mb ram, 20gb HD. Any support would be great Thanks PaulChandler ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Partitions management for kde
do anyone knows a visual utility to edit the linux partitions for KDE? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Choosing flavors and Window Managers
I'll tell you that I am planning on going 'school-wide' with Linux. But it's a gradual process. and we're a small organization. In our school, we have one computer lab with 20 machines and about 3-4 machines in every classroom. The lab is completely linux now, with all but two of t eh machines bootable to Windows. With the kids, when they hit 7th grade, they're mine and I teach them linux right away. They love it. The teachers are different. Even though I taught them how to boot into linux or windows in the pre-school inservice, most of them can't get tha figured out. then, when it comes to having them find a word processing document or even surf the internet, they have problems. Still, as we get new machines, these linux machines are going to be forced into the classrooms and they are going to have to learn how to use them. Eventually they will. They learned windows when I pushed out the macs. It wasn't much different. As far as teh different window managers and versions of linux, they are not that different. Last year, we used redhat on a couple of machines. This year, the kids that did that new exactly how to use mandrake. Some of the kids use gnome, some use kde, some use blackbox. They seem to take that transition easily. Then again, my business is teaching. I have all year to do that. jim Quoting Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not sure I truly understand the advantages of all these different flavors of linux. I understand that Debian is the super secure, and Mandrake is the super friendly, and Redhat is enterprise oriented. But what I find is that flavors mean non-standard directories and other nuances. The only linux part of a flavor is the kernel. This is actually pretty annoying because one can never truely say I know linux in a deep sense; all one really knows is one's particular flavor of linux. My impression is that if you switched flavors on somebody they would be nearly as lost as they would be if you switched their PC for a MAC even though it's still linux. Is this flavor thing good for linux in a long term sense? This goes for window managers too: if the Window Manager is the gateway to the system switching WMs on somebody is pretty close to switching the OS on them. One of the main reasons that I bring this up is if you were to choose to deploy linux desktops for your company, you should probably think long an hard about the flavor and the WM that you are going to standardize on because if you let people run different WMs willy nilly (much less flavors) it would be a adminstrative nightmare. You can't really count (never will be able to count) on any baseline functionality of access points amongs WMs can you...? Has anyone deployed linux desktop company-wide before? Do you have any juicey stories to tell about what worked and what didn't? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bash Scripting
http://linuxdoc.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html - Paul Rodríguez On 05 Sep 2001 18:14:39 -0300, Nicolás Gómez wrote: Hi In the school we are almost in the part of shell scripting, and the chosen one for these purpose is bash. I'd like to know if you can help with any link to some bash scripting tutorial/manual/eBook. therefore, whatever could help to me Thanks a lot Nicolás Gómez Montevideo, Uruguay Linux Registered User Number #227789 =_999724616-7607-1610 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] D-Link Ethernet Card for DSL
Hello all, I have recently made the switch from modem to DSL thru swbell. The package that the sent included a D-Link DFE-530TX ethernet card. The card in windoze 98 is using irq 11. According to the supported hardware list and some archived e-mails this card is supported. I have mandrake 8.0 dual booting with 98. The hardware detection program (forgive me for not knowing its name) at boot sees the card and when I tell it to configure the new device the screen goes dark, no command line no nothing, and stays that way. I hit ctrl-alt-del and the system shuts down or reboots. If I dont configure the card the system boots and works normally. I installed just before this a voodo 3 3000 agp video card. I am hopeing that it isnt the video card that is causing my problems but I include this info just in case. Thanks in advnce for any help, Andrew Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already
On Thursday 06 September 2001 10:02 pm, Warren Post escribió: Tom, other than gaming what uses do you see for Windows? I've been looking forward to scrubbing it from my hd's, but your comment gives me pause. Tom Brinkman wrote: I'm the first one to recommend to newbie's (or oldies's) that they keep Windoze around, just don't EVER connect to the Net with it (ASAP). Well, I've already seen several replies to this, so you can see each individuals needs vary quite a bit. For me, I like flight simulators, and there are none for Linux that come close to M$'s. FlightGear (runs on many OS' including Linux) has a long way to go. Another need most users will run into sooner or later is to flash bios' for their motherboard, video card, cdrom, cd-rw, etc. For that you need DOS, sometimes Windoze, to run the flash utility. Another argument to make is why throw away something you already got stuck for? While I'll never buy another M$ product, I'm in no hurry to toss those I have. 'Specially since disk space is so cheap now-a-day's, and dual booting is so easy. I'll just say again tho, M$, never was a false sense of security so expensive. Don't use any M$ product to connect to the Net. EVER -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Partitions management for kde
do anyone knows a visual utility to edit the linux partitions for KDE? DiskDrake or GnuParted for Linux. Partition Magic for that other system. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Library Compatibility
In my quest to get WP8 installed on LM8 (it worked wonderfully on LM7.1) I discover that there were libraries (libc5) used that are no longer used in this newer Mandrake. But are older libraries compatible with newer ones? If not, then I guess it is not possible to reinstall WP8 into this newer version of Mandrake. Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already
on 9/7/01 8:51 AM, Tom Brinkman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I've already seen several replies to this, so you can see each individuals needs vary quite a bit. For me many graphic design programs don't exist on Linux or aren't on par with their Windows/Mac counterparts. I primarily use Linux for testing my site's php, xml, etc locally. But I still need to revert to Windows when it comes to the design end of my site. Another argument to make is why throw away something you already got stuck for? Most computers come with Windows on CD. You can always reinstall if necessary. I don't prefer dual booting if possible. I'd prefer to go entirely one OS or the vmware/winforlin route. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Network Cards
Hi, I'm a recent Linux convert, though I have been interested in the OS for a number of years. I am reasonably comfortable with both computer hardware and software, but I am not under any circumstances a 'techie'. Though my ludite in-laws might protest, my knowledge of some of these things is pretty basic. I've been having some trouble with my network card and Mandrake 8.0. I'm pretty sure (though not 100%) that Mandrake does not support my card. It is a D-Link 220. If I understood a web page I saw correctly, Linux requires the 'ne' driver to run my card. This driver is installed on my computer, and comes up when I run the Network configuration dialog box. However, the computer does not seem to recognize my card when HardDrake (I think that is the name of the program) does its thing. Basically, I'm confused. I don't think Mandrake supports my card, but I'm told on a Linux HOWTO site that Linux requires the 'ne' driver to run the card, which I have. Could someone please shed some light on this matter for me? I would really appreciate it. I do want to start using Mandrake, and I'm willing to pick up a new network card if that's what I have to do. If I do, I was wondering if there was a list somewhere that I could bring into a shop so I would choose a card that Mandrake would recognize. On another note, I was wondering if there was a way to change something in the Network dialog box. When I was installing Mandrake and I first encountered the above problem, I just said to hell with it and selected a modem as the means through which I would connect to the Internet. I can't seem to figure out how to change this. Sorry for all the questions, but I really want to learn this stuff and get my Mandrake box up and running. Cheers, David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already
On Friday 07 September 2001 02:09, you wrote: Jeez, I wanna get rid of Windows too. However, our business accounts are in Windows and although I'm planning on using GnuCash, I don't want to re-key in all transactions for the current financial year so have to wait until April next year! You should take a look at Moneydance. If they are using Quicken, you should have no problems importing their files. Go to http://www.moneydance.com and you will be able to download the latest version. They are constently doing updates and improvements. Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Network Cards
I do want to start using Mandrake, and I'm willing to pick up a new network card if that's what I have to do. If I do, I was wondering if there was a list somewhere that I could bring into a shop so I would choose a card that Mandrake would recognize. If you can't get the dlink card to work (and I remember having problems with dlinks and the ne cards), you should pick up a 3com card. I've never had any problems with everything from the early 3c509's to the newer 3c905's. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Accessing NT networked printer from Linux
How do i access a networked printer via Linux. The printer is on an NT print server. Its a HP Deskjet 850C, under NT its name is \\scotty\itcolour. I have tried adding the printer through the cups webmin as both an SMB printer using, smb://scotty/itcolour as the URI, and also as an AppSocket/HPJetDirect devive at socket://SCOTTY:9100/ITColour, with no success. I have sent test pages, with no out put, and also cups keep stopping the printers. Any ideas? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Network Cards
On Friday 07 September 2001 09:40 am, Michael D. Viron wrote: If you can't get the dlink card to work (and I remember having problems with dlinks and the ne cards), you should pick up a 3com card. I've never had any problems with everything from the early 3c509's to the newer 3c905's. Michael ditto -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KDE/Gnome
Is there a compare anywhere re the advantages and disadvantages of KDE vs. Gnome? Is this list and Mandrake specifically oriented toward KDE? Before sending this I decided that I aught to check the list archives and there was *nothing* with Gnome in the subject. I don't think that I want to switch to Gnome, but I have a couple of reasons. First, I went looking for what the version already installed was because of my interest in a home finance program that requires Gnome 1.4 (can't think of what it's called). There I saw Gnome's pilot program and tried it and found it worked! (Haven't been able to get KPilot to.) On the down side, there did not seem to be any way already set up for accessing the CD-ROM or Floppy (Does Gnome require that they be mounted for each use as in early version of KDE I tried once in an unsuccessful try at Linux about 2 years ago?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] enabling ATA100 drives
I have an IBM Deskstar 75GXP 30GB drive which is ATA100 compatible, but I have a feeling that MDK8.0 is not taking full advantage of this feature. My motherboard, an Asus A7A266, also supports this. A line showed up during installation (might during boot-up too -- haven't checked) that says ide bus is assumed to be running at 33Mhz, and it gives some variable name to use for changing it. Is this what I'm looking for, and if so, how do I change it? I'd really like to be able to get it working right -- Broadcast 2000 is having fits with video capture, and I'm attributing part of the problem to slow disk access. (I've clocked the drive at 29MB/sec in Win). TIA Jeremy _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already
If you look at the Gnucash web site (www.gnucash.org) you can see the latest 1.6 version has extensive wizards (they call them Druids) to help you import from Quicken. I havent tried it yet because it needs the latest Gnome libraries to be fitted, and I thought I'd wait for Mandrake 8.1 first. I did give MoneyDance a try and thought it a bit 'Mickey mouse' compared to Quicken. I do not think it worth paying for. I also tried the Kapital demo, and thought they had a cheek trying to charge for something so simple. At present I am having 'some' success running Quicken 2001 under WINE. It works, but painfully slowly Gnucash looks the best solution. Just not quite yet... Derek On Friday 07 September 2001 07:35, you wrote: On Friday 07 September 2001 02:09, you wrote: Jeez, I wanna get rid of Windows too. However, our business accounts are in Windows and although I'm planning on using GnuCash, I don't want to re-key in all transactions for the current financial year so have to wait until April next year! You should take a look at Moneydance. If they are using Quicken, you should have no problems importing their files. Go to http://www.moneydance.com and you will be able to download the latest version. They are constently doing updates and improvements. Barry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Mandrake SNF and Port Forwarding
download ipmasqadm,, and look it up on google, there is a heap of howto's about it.. I use it all the time, it is easier then writing ipchains rules and has been flawless for me... rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lanman Sent: Friday, 7 September 2001 4:11 PM To: The Newbie List Subject: [newbie] Mandrake SNF and Port Forwarding Has onyone had any luck in configuring Port-Forwarding on Mandrake SNF (A.K.A. Mandrake Security) ? If so, I'd really appreciate some instructions on this. I also need to know if I need any additional packages to get the job done. Thanks in Advance Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] KDE/Gnome
I don't know of any comparisons between KDE and GNOME. On the surface KDE is more Windows like and GNOME is more Mac like, but it's only cosmetic. I was a KDE user for a long long time, but I downloaded the Ximian desktop and it's really nice, I've completely switched. Both (K/G) are highly configurable and the Ximian desktop can be configured to look more Windows like or more Mac like... -Original Message- From: Peter Rymshaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:29 PM To: Mandrake help Subject: [newbie] KDE/Gnome Is there a compare anywhere re the advantages and disadvantages of KDE vs. Gnome? Is this list and Mandrake specifically oriented toward KDE? Before sending this I decided that I aught to check the list archives and there was *nothing* with Gnome in the subject. I don't think that I want to switch to Gnome, but I have a couple of reasons. First, I went looking for what the version already installed was because of my interest in a home finance program that requires Gnome 1.4 (can't think of what it's called). There I saw Gnome's pilot program and tried it and found it worked! (Haven't been able to get KPilot to.) On the down side, there did not seem to be any way already set up for accessing the CD-ROM or Floppy (Does Gnome require that they be mounted for each use as in early version of KDE I tried once in an unsuccessful try at Linux about 2 years ago?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Cannot Find NSLOOKUP
I am looking for the 'nslookup' command and can't find it. I have run a find command looking for anything like nslookup and it comes back blank. I am running a Mandrake 7.2 workstation and networking seems to work fine so something must be providing this service but I can't find it. Any suggestions? Thanks In Advance, Tom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] KDE/Gnome
First and foremost, there are others REALLY good alternatives to KDE and GNOME in Desktop Managers like WindowMaker (www.windowmaker.org) but you can live perfeclty well with something like BlackBox (but just a window manager, that can be integrated to the kwc and kpanel) and well, if you don;t have 40 MB Ram to waist in KDE or GNOME, you can live happy with those alternatives . . just a thougt . . . Lionel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:33 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] KDE/Gnome I don't know of any comparisons between KDE and GNOME. On the surface KDE is more Windows like and GNOME is more Mac like, but it's only cosmetic. I was a KDE user for a long long time, but I downloaded the Ximian desktop and it's really nice, I've completely switched. Both (K/G) are highly configurable and the Ximian desktop can be configured to look more Windows like or more Mac like... -Original Message- From: Peter Rymshaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:29 PM To: Mandrake help Subject: [newbie] KDE/Gnome Is there a compare anywhere re the advantages and disadvantages of KDE vs. Gnome? Is this list and Mandrake specifically oriented toward KDE? Before sending this I decided that I aught to check the list archives and there was *nothing* with Gnome in the subject. I don't think that I want to switch to Gnome, but I have a couple of reasons. First, I went looking for what the version already installed was because of my interest in a home finance program that requires Gnome 1.4 (can't think of what it's called). There I saw Gnome's pilot program and tried it and found it worked! (Haven't been able to get KPilot to.) On the down side, there did not seem to be any way already set up for accessing the CD-ROM or Floppy (Does Gnome require that they be mounted for each use as in early version of KDE I tried once in an unsuccessful try at Linux about 2 years ago?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] WordPerfect8 Mandrake 8
I can't even find WP8, does anyone have the url? Can't find it on their site. On Thursday 06 September 2001 12:16 pm, so spoke s: On Thursday 06 September 2001 03:07 pm, mcoady wrote: Since installing Mandrake8 I cannot get WP8 for Linux to install. Is it probable that the newer Mandrake version has dropped certain files necessary for WP8? Michael Does installing the libc5 rpm not help this time? I believe I have had wp8 on 8.0 but I had to install libc5-1.0-2.i386.rpm first. -s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Accessing NT networked printer from Linux
Thanks for the tips. I do indeed have samba installed and running. So i should be using smb://scotty/itcolour as the address to access the printer, is that right? (does it matter that the printer is connected via a JetDirect card?) I'll check the firewall issue out on monday when i'm back at work. thanks Jamie From: Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Accessing NT networked printer from Linux Date: 07 Sep 2001 11:20:39 -0500 On 07 Sep 2001 16:34:08 +0100, Jamie Kerwick wrote: I am running Mandrake 8.0, i've tried using both the webmin and the Kups tool. My printers are running on jet direct'd i've tried using the socket method with no success. If it helps in NT the port that it uses is ITColour. The problem with the socket based thing is that i don't really understand the instructions give in the help files. Can someone point me in the right direction. I am going to assume that you have the Samba client installed, and that you can access network file shares using it. If not, then you will need to get Samba installed and configured before you can do any SMB printing. Once you can access network file shares, then move on to printing. If your network printer is actually shared via the print server, then you will need to use SMB printing -- sorry if I was unclear on that point. Your SMB printer address would then be something like you previously mentioned: \\printer_server_netbios_name\printer_share_name. You may need to know the IP address of the print server, because your Samba client may not otherwise be able to resolve the server netbios name to its IP address (this is not a consistent issue, but I have seen it happen). The netbios name is whatever name shows up for that print server in Network Neighborhood -- not the printer itself, but the computer name (I assume your are correct when using SCOTTY for the name). The share name for the printer is, again, whatever name appears in Network Neighorhood (ITColour?). Make sure you are not running a firewall: '/sbin/ipchains -L' will list any firewall rules that may be in effect, if you are using ipchains. With Mandrake 8, you may very well be on a 2.4 kernel with iptables. In that case, I am not sure of the syntax to list iptables firewall rules -- maybe '/sbin/iptables -L'? If you get a list of rules other than a bunch of ACCEPT policies, then you may need to temporarily shut off your firewall just for testing/debugging. With ipchains, this is '/sbin/ipchains -F' (must be done as root). With iptables, I don't know -- maybe '/sbin/iptables -F'? Whenever I have run into the issue where my printer appears to be defined correctly, but CUPS continually shuts it down or lists it as 'unreachable (or something to that effect), it has been because I forgot to disable my personal firewall. Dave attach3 _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] super mount .....not so super
I just upgraded to MD 8.1 beta2 from 8.0( was working ok before) anyway everything seemed ok untill i found out the CDrom , CDRW and floppy wont mount on boot how do i fix this ?? cheerz David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling Disk Quotas
I tried that too, I don't understand it, what is an easier example? I want to set username toadie to be limited to 150 Megabytes on his /home/toadie user directory. What exactly would I type? Thanks On Friday 07 September 2001 04:02 am, so spoke Biki: Type man edquota on your shell prompt On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, jrodri wrote... Hi everyone I hope that someone could help me with these... I'm trying to set quotas for my users, i want that each user of a group named mailgroup has a restriction of 5 Mb of space on disk, i already have mount my filesystem with quotas support... so I guess that i'm on half of the way... I already read the setquotas man... but i did'nt get so much of it... i need just an real command line example.. :-) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] super mount .....not so super
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] super mount .not so super I just upgraded to MD 8.1 beta2 from 8.0( was working ok before) anyway everything seemed ok untill i found out the CDrom , CDRW and floppy wont mount on boot how do i fix this ?? cheerz David Install the Beta3. It was posted to to the mirrors in the wee hours (for here) this morning. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dumb Email Time Question
Randy Kramer wrote: james Mellema wrote: Look at it like time is always UT (the current designation for GMT), local time where you are is 4 hours earlier, hence, the - sign. If you were on the other side of the International Date Line you would be ahead, hence the + sign. Jim, Thanks for the response! I know I probably seem wierd, but now I'm going to try to develop a way to mentally read it based on your suggestion. Mon, 03 Sep 2001 15:38:00 -0400 Read as: local time is 15:38, which is 4 hours before UT local time 15:38, 4 hours before UT local time 15:38, 4 hours 'til UT Yeah, that might work. local time, change sign is shorter, not sure which is more useful or more memorable -- your approach might be more useful, the local time, change sign might be more memorable. Well, we'll see the next time I try to see what time an email was sent. Randy Kramer yikes i hear all of you though time seems to confound mozillamail as well all my mail is dated by when it was sent so thanks to the fact that mandrake is used all over the world i get emails from today, yesterday, and tomorrow i have even responded to emails before that have, as far as mozilla is concerned, not yet been sent very complicated indeed - isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] bandwidth dns problems.
Hi all, One of our servers is on a slowish adsl connection, and we just got a bill for the account that says we did 5.5gig on that account in the last month.. There is nothing running on it which should be consuming bandwidth... I can maybe account for 1 gig, but not 5.5 The only thing the server is doing is a dns server, and a gateway to a couple of low usage web servers, (one win2000 one linux) The 1 gig I can account for is all the patchs and updates for the 3 machines.. (mostly win2000 patches,,, lets be honest here... :-) a look at the logs,, shows an awful lot of dns requests and responses I haven't seen this much dns traffic on this machine before... (I have changed the domain of our server,,, to ns.epay.net.au) does anyone know what is going on here?? this is about 5 seconds (we logged 2 minutes worth and its huge) something I don't understand is going on here and its costing us big bucks... Any ideas anyone??? rgds Frank 13:26:51.000794 ns.epay.net.au.domain h.root-servers.net.domain: [udp sum ok] 35633 PTR? 4.0.41.198.in-addr.arpa. [|domain] (ttl 64, id 53676, len 69) 13:26:51.370722 h.root-servers.net.domain ns.epay.net.au.domain: 35633- 0/10/ 0 (257) (DF) (ttl 38, id 0, len 285) 13:26:52.000778 ns.epay.net.au.domain i.root-servers.net.domain: [udp sum ok] 32311 PTR? 131.28.12.202.in-addr.arpa. [|domain] (ttl 64, id 53679, len 72) 13:26:52.001082 ns.epay.net.au.domain ns.telstra.net.domain: [udp sum ok] 642 33 PTR? 121.1.90.203.in-addr.arpa. [|domain] (ttl 64, id 53680, len 71) 13:26:52.157098 ns.telstra.net.domain ns.epay.net.au.domain: 64233 0/3/5 (213 ) (ttl 47, id 11369, len 241) 13:26:52.531548 i.root-servers.net.domain ns.epay.net.au.domain: 32311- 0/4/3 (185) (ttl 29, id 5094, len 213) 13:26:53.000782 ns.epay.net.au.domain E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.domain: [udp sum ok] 45529 PTR? 4.36.112.192.in-addr.arpa. [|domain] (ttl 64, id 53684, len 71) 13:26:53.326654 E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.domain ns.epay.net.au.domain: 45529- 0/10/ 0 (259) (DF) (ttl 12, id 33872, len 287) 13:26:54.000776 ns.epay.net.au.domain svc00.apnic.net.domain: [udp sum ok] 39 426 PTR? 191.178.0.203.in-addr.arpa. [|domain] (ttl 64, id 53687, len 72) 13:26:54.525339 svc00.apnic.net.domain ns.epay.net.au.domain: 39426- 0/2/0 (9 2) (ttl 42, id 27983, len 120) 13:26:55.000784 ns.epay.net.au.domain G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.domain: [udp sum ok] 43695 PTR? 12.4.33.192.in-addr.arpa. [|domain] (ttl 64, id 53690, len 70) 13:26:55.544227 G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.domain ns.epay.net.au.domain: 43695- 0/10/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Firewall/networking tutorial?
linuxdoc.org howtos for everything you ever wanted to do with an Os and probably quiet a few that you haven't everything IPMASQ networking dialup the whole lot,,, thats what I would start with... be careful though, alot of them will be talking about ipchains, which your default mandrake install will not support. (IPTABLES replaces IPCHAINS in the new kernels and you don't get ipchains unless you compile for it...) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Isaac Curtis Sent: Friday, 7 September 2001 4:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Firewall/networking tutorial? Ben Bayer wrote: Hi all, I want to set up an old computer I installed mandrake 8 on as a firewall for my main PC. Does anyone know of a howto, forum discussion, book, or article that might help me get started networking and firewalling? Thanks, Ben Linux Network Administrator's Guide (O'Reilly Assoc.) a definite must-have pick it up from your nearest local bookstore if you dont have the cash get it later because its intermediate level but i read it cover to cover with almost ZERO networking background and now i can do some pretty badass stuff good luck isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Fwd: Re: [newbie] Choosing flavors and Window Managers
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] Choosing flavors and Window Managers Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 15:51:52 -0500 From: Randy Donohoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday 06 September 2001 22:38, you wrote: Randy...I just read the first few sentences of that article and knew i had to respond. I work for a good size company (5000 or so users) and will tell you that not all of them are secretaries who use word, excel spreadsheets and the like. I also think it is condescending to subrscribe to that articles implied knowledge that secretaries are dumb, so secretaries would not know the difference I am an experienced windows user/professional desktop supporter and I have trouble with the basic functionality of linux. I can only imagine what it would be like to be desktop support for such an O/S. I wouldn't know where to begin let alone be a new user to all the programs that linux offers. I am here to learn the O/S, not how to create a spreadsheet in Koffice. Do you know how to do that with absolute proficientcy? Why expect your users to do so when they are the ones making million dollar investments so your comapany makes money and can pay you your salary? In mine line of work, the end user is the my money maker. Keep them in business and I get paid. Enable them to do what they do best is my job. Thier downtime hurts business. I work for them, no the other way around. That is not to say that linux is not right to rollout comapny-wide. It takes time, patience and knowledge. Could you imagine rendering a company useless to perfor high dollar trades on wall street becuase they couldn't recreate their all important calculates with Koffice? In my book the customers are all important. i work for no moron, no idiot, an no I D 10 T. I support a business and the people who run that business no mater what their staus Now mind you, I want to learn this O/S as well as I know windows. Challanges intrigue me. But, as a newbie, I must concede with Mark that On Thursday 06 September 2001 16:57, Randy Donohoe wrote: The sysadmin's words haunt me as I think about how to deploy a linux desktop environment for say a typical business dept. Does a linux desktop meet the usability requirements of a typcial user (as opposed to typical linux sysadmin/programmer). This should answer most of your questions. http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/08/10/1441239 Randy Donohoe If you read the entire article you'll find the entire city staff uses KDE under Linux. They also use a lot more than Koffice. The article is not condescending in any way. They're not saying that secretaries wouldn't know the difference, they're saying they don't need to know the difference. Using thin clients accessing the server administered by just two techs, they just need to know the desktop and applications. You have to know that with any OS and these workers are happy with Linux. As far as Wall Street goes, IBM zSeries mainframes operate portions of both the New York Stock Exchange and the American Stock Exchange. Read the entire article, it's a good piece. Randy Donohoe --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Hardware detect lockup, installing new network card
I just tried to upgrade to Mandrake 8.1 beta (but I had the same problem with 8.0) to fix some problems I was having with x windows. After having installed Mandrake successfully, I needed to add a network card to my setup, a 3com 905 series card. It was working fine under Mandrake 7.0. What happens is this, I turn the box on, it boots up, does the Harddrake probe, then goes into the detected new hardware. I hit enter to configure the device, it tells me it is about to, then the screen goes blank and nothing happens. I can reboot the computer with ctl-alt-del and that's about it. I don't have any trouble running X from the command line, if I skip the detecting new hardware stage. Any advice? Ryan Steffes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] new linux drivers for nvidia cards Version: 1.0-1512
On Friday 07 September 2001 02:46 pm, Linux Newbie escribió: Is it possible for me to get a reverse-compiler for Linux and de-compile these things into C or C++ ? Yes, then D/l the windoze drivers and have at it. You'll also need to dissect their chips. Might need some $pecial hardware ; Careful tho, you might havt'a finish the job in jail along with that Russian guy. The excuse 'partially' Linux supportive vendors like nVidia an other Win-tel members give is that they don't want to expose their intellectual property by releasing the source for their drivers. I guarantee this is B$. The Wintel-M$ gang doesn't want popular and current hardware fully supported by other than Billy's OS. ATI has probly dissected nVidia drivers and chips to the point they might even know more about them than nVidia does. Hard fact of life that remains is that their hardware will never be fully functional and/or supported, or even could possibly be, by the Linux community developers until they provide open source so that it can be compiled against the almost infinite number of kernel, libc, gcc, etc., possibilities that currently exist across Linux distros, kernels, and users without retribution. What bothered me the most about nVidia's newest 1512 Mandrake 8.0 closed source B$ drivers is that either out'a stupidity on their part, or intentionally, they were built against a 2.4.3 kernel and XFree 4.0.2 Neither of which are current to 8.0. The Xfree part maybe NBFD, but the kernel is. (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o (II) Module nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.1512 Module class: XFree86 Video Driver D/l the nVidia precompiled 8.0-1512 rpm and you'll get a warning that it needs '2.4.3-20mdk' kernel. That doesn't mean it won't work with newer kernels, but it means it probly won't... and doesn't in my experience, or from what I've read on the cooker (Mdk developers) list. I've got one word for nVidia's Linux support, and like most in the wintel-gang, it's DISINGENUOUS. They're just stringin us along, with poor, partially capable, closed source secret drivers. IMO, out'a fear of losing M$ cooperation. YMMV I'm sort's pi$$'d at myself for buyin nVidia crap, even tho I knew all the above beforehand. My only excuse is it's gettin harder and harder... not to. Billy's winning ;( -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay On Thursday 06 September 2001 10:32 am, so spoke Tom Brinkman: On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:38 am, s escribió: On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:31 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: If you are using LM 8.0 and haven't upgraded the kernel from 2.4.3-20mdk, I suspect you'll have some luck with them. I'm using a 2.4.8-18 kernel and d/l'd and rebuilt nVidia's src.rpms to fit my system. 2d works, 3d accel doesn't. Even 'gears' won't start. I've gone back to the open source drivers Mandrake ships with. 2d is 'clearer' with the open source drivers than any of nVidia's closed source drivers, including the 1512's. Have you tried the tarballs? -s That's what I tried first. Altho I know they're only tar.gz wrappers around precompiled closed source secret binaries. Part of the problem, besides having a kernel version that nVidia didn't use, is I also have upgraded glibc, among other things, to newer versions. The src.rpm's are nothin more than the same thing as the tarball's, but are made to be more distro compatible than the tarballs. The nvidia src.rpms rebuilt without a hitch and produced NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-1512.i686.rpm and NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-1512.i686.rpm both of which installed with no problem. I keep two versions of XF86Config-4 in /et/X11. I switched to the one appropriate for the nvidia drivers, checked it against nvidia's current README, and restarted. X came up fine, but no 3d accel. I didn't fool with it any further. I really don't like using closed source binaries, and I don't need 3d accel with Linux. AND since 2d is better and a touch faster with the Linux developed open source drivers, I switched XF86Config-4 back to the open source version. I wasn't surprised by any of this, I didn't expect nvidia's closed source drivers to run properly on anything but a system similar (ie, kernel, gcc, glibc, etc) than what nVidia used to make 'em. I just tried 'em out'a curiosity. I was surprised that nVidia used a 2.4.3 kernel, since 8.0's had a MandrakeUpdate for security and bug fix reasons to 2.4.7 for some time now. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Webmail Thingo for Apache and Mandrake. OT
Brett wrote: I need a webmail type of access program for a server running Mandrake. It needs to be able to handle IMAP accounts. Also, it needs to work as thus. Someone logs in as- username - user pass - password When when they send mail in the program, it sets their return address as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Brett. This got posted in the middle of Jennifer's simple command line question thread for me. Did this happen to everyone? If so, is it because of something the poster did, something on the drake server, or what? This same issue has happened to me several times in the past. I'm using KDE on 7.2 and probably more relevantly I'm running Mozilla 0.9.3 (2001080104). Please let me know if this is/isn't happening to the rest of you so I can file a report in Bugzilla if it's just a mozilla mail issue. Maa'a Salaama, Isaac aim userid: isaaccurtis Nolite te bastardes carborundorum. (Don't let the bastards grind you down.) - A Handmaid's Tale, Margaret Atwood Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] bash: java: command not found
antoine rivoire wrote: sorry valerie, i did a bit of looking, and i found out how you do that, and it works. thanks. On Monday 03 September 2001 08:52, you wrote: did you set PATH correctly after you insatlled the jdk? I've got Limewire and it's not working for me yet either, so could you explain (Antoine) what exactly you did? Thanks, Isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Fw: Chips and Technologies CT65555 on ERA1000
- Original Message - From: Luca To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:58 PM Subject: RE: Chips and Technologies CT6 on ERA1000 Thank you very much for your help ! I succeed in obtainig a good display 1024x768 on my ERA1000 notebook (there are some lines of noise sometimes only). I don't use the exact number you gaved me: In the Modeline line I changed the clock mode from 65 to 60 value and leaved the other values unchanged. I erased all the others Modeline lines. I added the line DACSpeed 60.0 I could not select the XFree-3-3.6 version because I didn't found it, even in the expert mode (I used the 2 CD Mandrake 8.0 distribution of the magazine "CHIP Special") Thank you again. Best regards Luca Leopardi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Need some some file/directory system structure.
At 02:40 PM 09/07/2001 -0700, you wrote: I'm overwelmed with the combination of newness and choice in this Linux world, although it's generally what I hoped for and I assume that it will just take time. But one thing that I think is getting in my way is the file system structure. First, I can't identify what kind of file something is by its extension. Linux files actually don't have extensions (or at least not the 3 character extensions that dos is famous for), unless they are shell scripts (typically .sh), web files (usually .php, .html, or .css), image files (.gif, .jpg, .png), audio files (.mp3 or possibly .ogg), or archives (.tar.gz, .tgz, .bz2, or .zip) Second, I don't know what kinds of files belong in etc say, or bin, or whichever. If it's an executable, should be be in home/bin, user bin, home/peter, ...? /etc is typically used for system initialization scripts (/etc/rc.d/*), configuration files (.*rc and *.conf, and sometimes conf.*), and home directory skeletons for the useradd command (/etc/skel/*). Executables are placed into many directories, which include /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin, /opt, and sometimes under /usr/X11/bin and /home/$user/bin. /usr/local is the suggested place for software that you've compiled yourself from source .tar.gz or .tgz files, although some people also place this under /home/$user/bin . /usr/X11 is usually used only for GUI based Xwindows programs (not always true, but usually), while the other bin directories (/bin,/usr/bin,/usr/sbin, and /sbin) usually contain command line oriented programs. Then you have /var which contains log files for various servers (/var/log) and spools stuff for various servers (such as incoming and outgoing e-mail and so forth -- /var/spool), and which sometimes contains the web server root directory (/var/www/) /tmp is a global temporary directory, /dev is a directory with a lot of device files (stuff you don't want to delete), /root is the super-user's home directory. And what is Lib? I thought at first that this was a library section for documents, but see that it seems to be for certain kinds of executables (files that other files need?) /usr/lib and any other lib directories contain library (.so) files which allow you to run other programs. They are roughly equivalent to window .dll files. Docs are available for most everything -- they can be found under /usr/doc, or /usr/share/doc or you can visit the linuxdoc.org website which has all the HOWTo's, guides, and FAQs you could really ever want to read. If you want reading beyond that, I'm sure there are a lot of people on list that can suggest a number of books to read. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Windows and Mandrake on one HDD
Hi, I would like to put Windows (either Win2k och Win98) on a harddrive together with Mandrake 8.0. I've got a 20 GB drive, at the moment empty. Should I install Windows or Mandrake first to get a bootloader that let me choose os at boot? Rgds, Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome
I too recently dl'ed ximian and went with it over kde. Its a bit quicker IMHO. I could never get kde apps to comile on my system so I was laways using gnome apps (gcdmaster, sylpheed, pan, gcombust, zapping). Nautilius could be quicker, I miss konqueror (i know i could run in gnome) and kpackage, but ill get over. BUT (and this is the take home message) I get to chose, not some geek in washington On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Peter Rymshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a compare anywhere re the advantages and disadvantages of KDE vs. Gnome? Is this list and Mandrake specifically oriented toward KDE? Before sending this I decided that I aught to check the list archives and there was *nothing* with Gnome in the subject. I don't think that I want to switch to Gnome, but I have a couple of reasons. First, I went looking for what the version already installed was because of my interest in a home finance program that requires Gnome 1.4 (can't think of what it's called). There I saw Gnome's pilot program and tried it and found it worked! (Haven't been able to get KPilot to.) On the down side, there did not seem to be any way already set up for accessing the CD-ROM or Floppy (Does Gnome require that they be mounted for each use as in early version of KDE I tried once in an unsuccessful try at Linux about 2 years ago?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows and Mandrake on one HDD
install windows first, then linux, mandrake will handle partioning your disk and loading the bootloader...good luck On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 19:43:47 +0200 Anders Thoresson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to put Windows (either Win2k och Win98) on a harddrive together with Mandrake 8.0. I've got a 20 GB drive, at the moment empty. Should I install Windows or Mandrake first to get a bootloader that let me choose os at boot? Rgds, Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need some some file/directory system structure.
Thanks for all the information and pointers, and my apologies to all for all the verbal handwringing. I have just one specific question. Since these directories *are* standardized (although moved around a bit from one distr to the next, I think) does that mean that when I install a software package that all of the files will automatically go to their correct directories, and that I don't need to worry about this? I was under the impression that that was true (and a big advantage) of RPM packages, which would imply that it isn't true for others. Do I need to worry about this? --- Michael D. Viron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:40 PM 09/07/2001 -0700, you wrote: I'm overwelmed with the combination of newness and choice in this Linux world, although it's generally what I hoped for and I assume that it will just take time. But one thing that I think is getting in my way is the file system structure. First, I can't identify what kind of file something is by its extension. Linux files actually don't have extensions (or at least not the 3 character extensions that dos is famous for), unless they are shell scripts (typically .sh), web files (usually .php, .html, or .css), image files (.gif, .jpg, .png), audio files (.mp3 or possibly .ogg), or archives (.tar.gz, .tgz, .bz2, or .zip) Second, I don't know what kinds of files belong in etc say, or bin, or whichever. If it's an executable, should be be in home/bin, user bin, home/peter, ...? /etc is typically used for system initialization scripts (/etc/rc.d/*), configuration files (.*rc and *.conf, and sometimes conf.*), and home directory skeletons for the useradd command (/etc/skel/*). Executables are placed into many directories, which include /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin, /opt, and sometimes under /usr/X11/bin and /home/$user/bin. /usr/local is the suggested place for software that you've compiled yourself from source .tar.gz or .tgz files, although some people also place this under /home/$user/bin . /usr/X11 is usually used only for GUI based Xwindows programs (not always true, but usually), while the other bin directories (/bin,/usr/bin,/usr/sbin, and /sbin) usually contain command line oriented programs. Then you have /var which contains log files for various servers (/var/log) and spools stuff for various servers (such as incoming and outgoing e-mail and so forth -- /var/spool), and which sometimes contains the web server root directory (/var/www/) /tmp is a global temporary directory, /dev is a directory with a lot of device files (stuff you don't want to delete), /root is the super-user's home directory. And what is Lib? I thought at first that this was a library section for documents, but see that it seems to be for certain kinds of executables (files that other files need?) /usr/lib and any other lib directories contain library (.so) files which allow you to run other programs. They are roughly equivalent to window .dll files. Docs are available for most everything -- they can be found under /usr/doc, or /usr/share/doc or you can visit the linuxdoc.org website which has all the HOWTo's, guides, and FAQs you could really ever want to read. If you want reading beyond that, I'm sure there are a lot of people on list that can suggest a number of books to read. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
FW: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already
Hi, I would want applications like Dreamweaver UltraDev and to a lesser extent PhotoShop before I could comfortably abandon Windows. Someone ought bring pressure to bare on Macromedia and thier ilk. Another issue would be that of plug n play. If LINUX could have that and take the headache of driver configuration it would be a real dream come true. I still have not managed to install Mandrake 8 yet on account of NIC detection/installation. It's an old ISA 3COM 10 MB ethernet ( none combo ) that is easily picked up in windoz. I am very new to LINUX. Siavash -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dr. Evil Sent: 07 September 2001 04:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already Tom, other than gaming what uses do you see for Windows? I've been looking forward to scrubbing it from my hd's, but your comment gives me pause. As far as I know, for most users, there is no use aside from gaming, and even for gaming, there are native Linux games, and apparently quite a few Windows games run under Wine. The other exception is that there are quite a few applications that can ONLY run on Windows for some specific purposes. Perhaps you need Autocad, or some other specific app which is Windows only. But if you're just an ordinary user who surfs the web, does word processing, this kind of thing, you don't need Windows at all. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Network Card compatibility
As I mentioned in my previous mail, I still have not managed to install Mandrake 8 on my system. The installation gets to the point of asigning root and user password. The problems arise at the NIC detection. My card is 3COM ISA Ethernet 10 MB per sec ( not a combo ). I don't know much else about the model. It gives me a choice of the following. 3COM 3c90x ( Cyclone/Hurricane/Tornado ) 3COM 3c501 3COM 3c503 3COM 3c505 3COM 3c507 3COM 3c509 3COM 3c515 3COM 3c59x(Vortex) I have tried all of the above and none of them seem to work. Sirdhar was kind enough to suggest I should go into BIOS and set plug play to NO. I cheked and it was already set up that way. Since I don't know the exact driver name of the NIC I don't know how to check whether Mandrake 8 supports it. People in the know tell me that Mandrake 8 is so well supported that if I don't find the spacific drivers under its list, then LINUX does not support it. This strange since my card is anything but cutting edge to be supported. Unfortunately I cannot check the exact driver name in device manager since Mandrake screwed up triple boot menu. I could not boot into anything. Kept getting messages to the effect ...This is not a bootable device, insert a bootable floppy and try again Since I neglected to create a Windows 2000 repair disk, there was nothing else I could think of but to wipe everything and start again. This is not my main machine ( just for practice ) so even though drastic, it did't have huge loss implications. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance Siavash -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael D. Viron Sent: 07 September 2001 15:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Network Cards I do want to start using Mandrake, and I'm willing to pick up a new network card if that's what I have to do. If I do, I was wondering if there was a list somewhere that I could bring into a shop so I would choose a card that Mandrake would recognize. If you can't get the dlink card to work (and I remember having problems with dlinks and the ne cards), you should pick up a 3com card. I've never had any problems with everything from the early 3c509's to the newer 3c905's. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need some some file/directory system structure.
On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Peter Rymshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: PR I'm overwelmed with the combination of newness and PR choice in this Linux world, although it's generally PR what I hoped for and I assume that it will just take PR time. Keep with it. the reward are well worth it!! Welcome :o) PR PR But one thing that I think is getting in my way is the PR file system structure. First, I can't identify what PR kind of file something is by its extension. Second, I PR don't know what kinds of files belong in etc say, or PR bin, or whichever. If it's an executable, should be be PR in home/bin, user bin, home/peter, ...? And what is PR Lib? I thought at first that this was a library PR section for documents, but see that it seems to be for PR certain kinds of executables (files that other files PR need?) Most basic Linux books will give you descriptions of what the major directories are for. /etc is usually for configuration files the system needs. /bin is for binaries (executables) == PR PR Some Linux basic books that I've seen imply that you PR can put things wherever you want, That's part of the PR beauty of ... PR PR I've downloaded a couple of programs already and don't PR have any sense of where I should be putting the PR download, and then where to expand it. == Typically third party programs go in either /usr/local or /opt (different distros have been doing this differently. = PR PR Surprisingly (to me), I have not found any description PR anywhere of what the default, or standard, or even PR common file system layouts are. I've tried to search PR arount and see where the different parts of existing PR programs are located, but that doesn't seem to work PR for me. PR PR Back to file extensions, etc, how do you know what PR kind of file you have before you if you select it? PR Properties doesn't tell you anything, and if I click PR on it and it is not a text file I get an Open With... PR That's just what I don't know. = Still thinking very much in a windows mindset. Keep reading documentation, man pages, and get some good books. *Running Linux* by Welsh, et. al. published by O'Reilly is very good. *Linux in a Nutshell*, another O'Reilly publication is also quite good. Mike -- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need some some file/directory system structure.
At 05:29 PM 09/07/2001 -0700, you wrote: Thanks for all the information and pointers, and my apologies to all for all the verbal handwringing. I have just one specific question. Since these directories *are* standardized (although moved around a bit from one distr to the next, I think) does that mean that when I install a software package that all of the files will automatically go to their correct directories, and that I don't need to worry about this? I was under the impression that that was true (and a big advantage) of RPM packages, which would imply that it isn't true for others. Do I need to worry about this? Yes, when you install an rpm package, it will automatically place your files appropriately. If, on the other hand, you compile from source, you'll have to run: ./configure --with-prefix=/usr/local make make install before the files will be in the correct places. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] WordPerfect8 Mandrake 8
Linux Newbie wrote: I can't even find WP8, does anyone have the url? Can't find it on their site. On Thursday 06 September 2001 12:16 pm, so spoke s: On Thursday 06 September 2001 03:07 pm, mcoady wrote: Since installing Mandrake8 I cannot get WP8 for Linux to install. Is it probable that the newer Mandrake version has dropped certain files necessary for WP8? Michael Does installing the libc5 rpm not help this time? I believe I have had wp8 on 8.0 but I had to install libc5-1.0-2.i386.rpm first. -s I've lost touch with WordPerfect, but I used WP8 on my first Linux (Redhat) system several years ago. There was a library issue even then, and it took a while to sort things out. (When I changed to Mandrake, I didn't bother to reinstall WP; Star Office works just fine for me.) When Corel brought out their WP2000 suite a while back, they removed WP8 from their download site, and I don't believe that 2000 was ever available as a download. If you go to: linux.corel.com/support/wp8-linux.htm you'll find a link to a support group that is (was) very active and may be worth a look; you might find a downloadable WP8 for Linux on Tucows. Bear in mind that Corel is getting out of the Linux business, so that continued support for even the boxed sets is questionable. One thing that I do remember about WP8: Don't set your video resolution to 24 bit -- it doesn't work. Regards, Carroll Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
FW: [newbie] Network Card compatibility
Hi again, I just booted into windows and saw my NIC is listed as 3COM Etherlink III ISA 3C509B-Combo. Apologies for lack of observance on my part. S now, can anyone tell me if this NIC is supported by Mandrake 8 and if so, why is not being picked up.? Thanks guys. Siavash -Original Message- From: Siavash Sefidvash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 September 2001 02:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Network Card compatibility As I mentioned in my previous mail, I still have not managed to install Mandrake 8 on my system. The installation gets to the point of asigning root and user password. The problems arise at the NIC detection. My card is 3COM ISA Ethernet 10 MB per sec ( not a combo ). I don't know much else about the model. It gives me a choice of the following. 3COM 3c90x ( Cyclone/Hurricane/Tornado ) 3COM 3c501 3COM 3c503 3COM 3c505 3COM 3c507 3COM 3c509 3COM 3c515 3COM 3c59x(Vortex) I have tried all of the above and none of them seem to work. Sirdhar was kind enough to suggest I should go into BIOS and set plug play to NO. I cheked and it was already set up that way. Since I don't know the exact driver name of the NIC I don't know how to check whether Mandrake 8 supports it. People in the know tell me that Mandrake 8 is so well supported that if I don't find the spacific drivers under its list, then LINUX does not support it. This strange since my card is anything but cutting edge to be supported. Unfortunately I cannot check the exact driver name in device manager since Mandrake screwed up triple boot menu. I could not boot into anything. Kept getting messages to the effect ...This is not a bootable device, insert a bootable floppy and try again Since I neglected to create a Windows 2000 repair disk, there was nothing else I could think of but to wipe everything and start again. This is not my main machine ( just for practice ) so even though drastic, it did't have huge loss implications. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance Siavash -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael D. Viron Sent: 07 September 2001 15:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Network Cards I do want to start using Mandrake, and I'm willing to pick up a new network card if that's what I have to do. If I do, I was wondering if there was a list somewhere that I could bring into a shop so I would choose a card that Mandrake would recognize. If you can't get the dlink card to work (and I remember having problems with dlinks and the ne cards), you should pick up a 3com card. I've never had any problems with everything from the early 3c509's to the newer 3c905's. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] fetchmail via qmail
Hi! I have configure my Linux with Qmail. Now I like to install fetchmail. But I am having some error. Can someone help me [root@edns1 RPMS]# rpm -Uvh fetchmail-5.7.4-4.i386.rpm error: failed dependencies: smtpdaemon is needed by fetchmail-5.7.4-4 Best Regards, SKLIM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] evolution shell error
On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 12:31:02 -0400, Scott Thurmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone seen this error on Mandrake 8.0 and know what to do about it? evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot access Bonobo/ConfigDatabase on wombat: Beta 3 of Evolution was recently released. Upgrade to it and hopefully the problem will have been fixed. You can get it from Cooker, or alternatively you can install Ximian GNOME (http://www.ximian.com). -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] a dumb postfix question
Would anyone know where the spam controls for Postfix are? I can't seem to find them. Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How to run ntp?
I installed ntp from rpm, and I can't get it to run, the only place I find it on the computer is /etc/ntp and the only thing in this directory is a text file called keys Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already
From: Dr. Evil [EMAIL PROTECTED] But if you're just an ordinary user who surfs the web, does word processing, this kind of thing, you don't need Windows at all. Ordinary (home) users usually want to surf and play games. Also electronic banking/bill paying. I haven't seen a good Linux e-banking program, so I use MS Money in Win4Lin. -- -- Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 50453890 AIM: MikeLeone PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF PGP public key: http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.gpg Taking a mental stroll through the psychic park of pleasure. PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Webmail Thingo for Apache and Mandrake. OT
On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 17:15:24 -0400 Isaac Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brett wrote: I need a webmail type of access program for a server running Mandrake. It needs to be able to handle IMAP accounts. Also, it needs to work as thus. Someone logs in as- username - user pass - password When when they send mail in the program, it sets their return address as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Brett. This got posted in the middle of Jennifer's simple command line question thread for me. Did this happen to everyone? If so, is it because of something the poster did, something on the drake server, or what? This same issue has happened to me several times in the past. I'm using KDE on 7.2 and probably more relevantly I'm running Mozilla 0.9.3 (2001080104). Please let me know if this is/isn't happening to the rest of you so I can file a report in Bugzilla if it's just a mozilla mail issue. No, it's not a bug.. I believe it's the result of the poster (Brett) replying to that message and changing the subject line rather than posting a new message. The message id in the headers would place it where it wound up (in the middle of another thread). I use another mailer (Sylpheed) and I see the same thing frequently and tend to ignore it. It's really a case of how posters need to be a little more careful about how they go about starting new threads. Cheers John -- The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) Registered Linux User: 102826ICQ#: 89345394 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome
On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:28:35 -0700 (PDT), Peter Rymshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a compare anywhere re the advantages and disadvantages of KDE vs. Gnome? Is this list and Mandrake specifically oriented toward KDE? Before sending this I decided that I aught to check the list archives and there was *nothing* with Gnome in the subject. Any kind of KDE vs GNOME review would be very subjective. In the end, it comes down to personal preferences and tastes. This is my take on things. While I like both environments, I prefer GNOME, and I have been using it for about two years now. KDE is targetted at the consumer, particularly one migrating from Windows. As a result, it can be viewed as 'Windows on steroids'. GNOME, on the other hand, offers a great deal of flexibility and power, at the expense of a little user-friendliness. GNOME takes longer to get used to, and can only be truly appreciated through experimentation and configuration. KDE is a bit more plug-'n-play, and once that's done, there's little else you can do. I don't think that I want to switch to Gnome, but I have a couple of reasons. First, I went looking for what the version already installed was because of my interest in a home finance program that requires Gnome 1.4 (can't think of what it's called). There I saw Gnome's pilot program and tried it and found it worked! (Haven't been able to get KPilot to.) On the down side, there did not seem to be any way already set up for accessing the CD-ROM or Floppy (Does Gnome require that they be mounted for each use as in early version of KDE I tried once in an unsuccessful try at Linux about 2 years ago?) Generally, KDE apps should work in GNOME with no trouble, and vice versa. I use Konqueror in GNOME all the time. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Library Compatibility
Have you tried installing the libc package as I mentioned before? You should not need anything else. On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 16:59:06 -0700, mcoady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Sridhar for your suggestion. I found a file at Vector Linux (wp8-libs.tgz) that contails the libc files necessary. However the directions say that after untarring this file one must run 'ldconfig' to install the libraries. I fear that this would override the libraries in place to run Mandrake8. Do you have any knowledge of this? Thanks again. Michael At 01:10 AM 9/8/01 +1000, you wrote: On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 10:07:41 -0700, mcoady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my quest to get WP8 installed on LM8 (it worked wonderfully on LM7.1) I discover that there were libraries (libc5) used that are no longer used in this newer Mandrake. But are older libraries compatible with newer ones? If not, then I guess it is not possible to reinstall WP8 into this newer version of Mandrake. Michael You should be able to find the libc package on your Mandrake CDs, or at rpmfind.net. Install that and you should be able to run WP8. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need some some file/directory system structure.
The file locations for applications can often be modified before compilation (via the configure script). For packages like RPM and DEB, there is no need to worry about where the files go. Just install the package and run the app. Remember that you should be using Mandrake or compatible (e.g. Red Hat) packages. Other packages will probably work, but then again they may not. YMMV. The Filesystem Heirarchy Standard, part of the Linux Standard Base, seeks to make file locations standard across distros. On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 17:29:32 -0700 (PDT), Peter Rymshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all the information and pointers, and my apologies to all for all the verbal handwringing. I have just one specific question. Since these directories *are* standardized (although moved around a bit from one distr to the next, I think) does that mean that when I install a software package that all of the files will automatically go to their correct directories, and that I don't need to worry about this? I was under the impression that that was true (and a big advantage) of RPM packages, which would imply that it isn't true for others. Do I need to worry about this? --- Michael D. Viron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:40 PM 09/07/2001 -0700, you wrote: I'm overwelmed with the combination of newness and choice in this Linux world, although it's generally what I hoped for and I assume that it will just take time. But one thing that I think is getting in my way is the file system structure. First, I can't identify what kind of file something is by its extension. Linux files actually don't have extensions (or at least not the 3 character extensions that dos is famous for), unless they are shell scripts (typically .sh), web files (usually .php, .html, or .css), image files (.gif, .jpg, .png), audio files (.mp3 or possibly .ogg), or archives (.tar.gz, .tgz, .bz2, or .zip) Second, I don't know what kinds of files belong in etc say, or bin, or whichever. If it's an executable, should be be in home/bin, user bin, home/peter, ...? /etc is typically used for system initialization scripts (/etc/rc.d/*), configuration files (.*rc and *.conf, and sometimes conf.*), and home directory skeletons for the useradd command (/etc/skel/*). Executables are placed into many directories, which include /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin, /opt, and sometimes under /usr/X11/bin and /home/$user/bin. /usr/local is the suggested place for software that you've compiled yourself from source .tar.gz or .tgz files, although some people also place this under /home/$user/bin . /usr/X11 is usually used only for GUI based Xwindows programs (not always true, but usually), while the other bin directories (/bin,/usr/bin,/usr/sbin, and /sbin) usually contain command line oriented programs. Then you have /var which contains log files for various servers (/var/log) and spools stuff for various servers (such as incoming and outgoing e-mail and so forth -- /var/spool), and which sometimes contains the web server root directory (/var/www/) /tmp is a global temporary directory, /dev is a directory with a lot of device files (stuff you don't want to delete), /root is the super-user's home directory. And what is Lib? I thought at first that this was a library section for documents, but see that it seems to be for certain kinds of executables (files that other files need?) /usr/lib and any other lib directories contain library (.so) files which allow you to run other programs. They are roughly equivalent to window .dll files. Docs are available for most everything -- they can be found under /usr/doc, or /usr/share/doc or you can visit the linuxdoc.org website which has all the HOWTo's, guides, and FAQs you could really ever want to read. If you want reading beyond that, I'm sure there are a lot of people on list that can suggest a number of books to read. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] can't compile - please help
Seems to be looking for: string and asm/socket.h and fstring and map and list and.. many more. Do you haev the kernel source code loaded? Often there are includes in /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm that symlink to /usr/src/linux/ include, and if so, you'll need the kernel source - or at least the kernel headers installed. Harry Burgin David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Accessing NT networked printer from Linux
Could it be the / or \ problem? Jamie Kerwick wrote: How do i access a networked printer via Linux. The printer is on an NT print server. Its a HP Deskjet 850C, under NT its name is \\scotty\itcolour. I have tried adding the printer through the cups webmin as both an SMB printer using, smb://scotty/itcolour as the URI, and also as an AppSocket/HPJetDirect devive at socket://SCOTTY:9100/ITColour, with no success. I have sent test pages, with no out put, and also cups keep stopping the printers. Any ideas? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux not loading
Hylton's 0.02c Make sure Me was installed first as if it is after Linux it will overwrite the MBR and therefore it will not give you Lilo as a bootloader to select Linux. Tell us what distro you are installing as well. Paul Chandler wrote: Hi, i have installed linux and winMe at the same time. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Accessing NT networked printer from Linux
Could it be the / or \ problem? Jamie Kerwick wrote: How do i access a networked printer via Linux. The printer is on an NT print server. Its a HP Deskjet 850C, under NT its name is \\scotty\itcolour. I have tried adding the printer through the cups webmin as both an SMB printer using, smb://scotty/itcolour as the URI, and also as an AppSocket/HPJetDirect devive at socket://SCOTTY:9100/ITColour, with no success. I have sent test pages, with no out put, and also cups keep stopping the printers. Any ideas? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy X-Mozilla-Status: 0009from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] installing nfs on mandrake 7.2
okay im trying to get my main machine to use nfs, so that i can install linux onto anouther machine (that cant use a cdrom, and not enough space for a ftp install). i did enable nfs in the xconfig... and recompile the kernel... but when i goto /etc/init.d the closest thing i have to 'nfs' is netfs? is that mandrake's renaming of it... or did they put the nfs command somewhere else... also where do i find 'portmap' and 'mountd' or is mountd... just mount? -- nathan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mailbox query
Hi! I have an embarrassing question to ask. I installed Mutt and upon running the creature it complained that I do not have a mailbox. This is a big mystery for me. How do I get/make a mailbox? Thanks! -warren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] problem logging in
-- Forwarded message -- Hello I have mandrake 8.0 installed in my machine. Since yesterday I have been having problem logging in. Soon as I enter my password and hit the enter key the prompt returns to the login prompt. The problem arises with every user. I have gone through the pam.d files to check for any problems. Every thing seems fine there. What could be source of the problem?? Any suggestiobs will be greatly appreciated. cheers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already
I'm not Tom, but if I could butt in: I don't even use windows for gaming. If it ain't available for Linux I don't play (since I have yet to enjoy any sucess with wine). (Except I am considering the new Myst. That might be worth booting over there for. Anybody played it?) But I do use windows for one thing. To check if the occasional hardware failure is due to my incompetency in linux or actually hardware failure. Not that it's definative, but if something does work in windows, then I could figure it's probably me and I need to dig deeper. It's just another test. -s On Thursday 06 September 2001 10:02 pm, Warren Post wrote: Tom, other than gaming what uses do you see for Windows? I've been looking forward to scrubbing it from my hd's, but your comment gives me pause. Warren Post The Cybercafé at Pizza Pizza Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras http://sites.netscape.net/srcopan/ Tom Brinkman wrote: I'm the first one to recommend to newbie's (or oldies's) that they keep Windoze around, just don't EVER connect to the Net with it (ASAP). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SmartMedia adapters
On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Paul wrote: It was Tue, 31 Jul 2001 05:03:21 + (GMT) when Len Lawrence wrote: FlashPath devices can handle SmartMedia cards up to 128 Mb. Extensive tests conducted by Linuxcare show that the device operates very effectively on /dev/fd0 although the transfer rates are very low, apparently. Will report back if I can get one, and get it working. Very interesting! I am about to buy a digital camera (Olympus) from a friend, which has a floppy adapter thing also. Perhaps that would work too then :) Paul Managed to get the SmartDisk FlashPath adapter for SmartMedia. Neat. However, there was a bit of a problem getting the Linux driver from the www.smartdisk.com site. The driver page was inaccessible, and a message to the Webmaster revealed that the driver is no longer supported, so the link to the download page was an oversight. Also included in the kind response were three attachments; the driver itself, and PDF and HTML documentation. SmartDisk can no longer spare the effort to keep the driver up to date - it is only expected to work on 2.2 systems. They specifically state that it will not run under kernel versions 2.1 or 2.3. It works for me, albeit rather slowly (20 seconds for the transfer of an 800K image file). If it works under 2.4 kernels maybe somebody could post a note about it? -- Len Lawrence @ The Thistle Foundation Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Network Cards
The best card you can get is one of the realtec rtl8139 cards,, (thats the name of the chip on the card, there are many brands that sell them.. ) they are really really cheap and work great.. I have been using them for as long as they have been out,, and never had a problem. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 7 September 2001 10:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Network Cards Hi, I'm a recent Linux convert, though I have been interested in the OS for a number of years. I am reasonably comfortable with both computer hardware and software, but I am not under any circumstances a 'techie'. Though my ludite in-laws might protest, my knowledge of some of these things is pretty basic. I've been having some trouble with my network card and Mandrake 8.0. I'm pretty sure (though not 100%) that Mandrake does not support my card. It is a D-Link 220. If I understood a web page I saw correctly, Linux requires the 'ne' driver to run my card. This driver is installed on my computer, and comes up when I run the Network configuration dialog box. However, the computer does not seem to recognize my card when HardDrake (I think that is the name of the program) does its thing. Basically, I'm confused. I don't think Mandrake supports my card, but I'm told on a Linux HOWTO site that Linux requires the 'ne' driver to run the card, which I have. Could someone please shed some light on this matter for me? I would really appreciate it. I do want to start using Mandrake, and I'm willing to pick up a new network card if that's what I have to do. If I do, I was wondering if there was a list somewhere that I could bring into a shop so I would choose a card that Mandrake would recognize. On another note, I was wondering if there was a way to change something in the Network dialog box. When I was installing Mandrake and I first encountered the above problem, I just said to hell with it and selected a modem as the means through which I would connect to the Internet. I can't seem to figure out how to change this. Sorry for all the questions, but I really want to learn this stuff and get my Mandrake box up and running. Cheers, David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Network Cards
I second this ;) I have a Genius one and that chipset is amazing! Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 5:30 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Network Cards The best card you can get is one of the realtec rtl8139 cards,, (thats the name of the chip on the card, there are many brands that sell them.. ) they are really really cheap and work great.. I have been using them for as long as they have been out,, and never had a problem. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 7 September 2001 10:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Network Cards Hi, I'm a recent Linux convert, though I have been interested in the OS for a number of years. I am reasonably comfortable with both computer hardware and software, but I am not under any circumstances a 'techie'. Though my ludite in-laws might protest, my knowledge of some of these things is pretty basic. I've been having some trouble with my network card and Mandrake 8.0. I'm pretty sure (though not 100%) that Mandrake does not support my card. It is a D-Link 220. If I understood a web page I saw correctly, Linux requires the 'ne' driver to run my card. This driver is installed on my computer, and comes up when I run the Network configuration dialog box. However, the computer does not seem to recognize my card when HardDrake (I think that is the name of the program) does its thing. Basically, I'm confused. I don't think Mandrake supports my card, but I'm told on a Linux HOWTO site that Linux requires the 'ne' driver to run the card, which I have. Could someone please shed some light on this matter for me? I would really appreciate it. I do want to start using Mandrake, and I'm willing to pick up a new network card if that's what I have to do. If I do, I was wondering if there was a list somewhere that I could bring into a shop so I would choose a card that Mandrake would recognize. On another note, I was wondering if there was a way to change something in the Network dialog box. When I was installing Mandrake and I first encountered the above problem, I just said to hell with it and selected a modem as the means through which I would connect to the Internet. I can't seem to figure out how to change this. Sorry for all the questions, but I really want to learn this stuff and get my Mandrake box up and running. Cheers, David -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] enabling ATA100 drives
On Friday 07 September 2001 01:03 pm, Jeremy Davidson wrote: I have an IBM Deskstar 75GXP 30GB drive which is ATA100 compatible, (I've clocked the drive at 29MB/sec in Win). TIA Jeremy run as root: hdparm -Tt /dev/hda and see what your getting. (assuming mandrake is on your first hdd) -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake SNF and Port Forwarding
Has onyone had any luck in configuring Port-Forwarding on Mandrake SNF (A.K.A. Mandrake Security) ? If so, I'd really appreciate some instructions on this. I also need to know if I need any additional packages to get the job done. Thanks in Advance Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Firewall/networking tutorial?
Ben Bayer wrote: Hi all, I want to set up an old computer I installed mandrake 8 on as a firewall for my main PC. Does anyone know of a howto, forum discussion, book, or article that might help me get started networking and firewalling? Thanks, Ben Linux Network Administrator's Guide (O'Reilly Assoc.) a definite must-have pick it up from your nearest local bookstore if you dont have the cash get it later because its intermediate level but i read it cover to cover with almost ZERO networking background and now i can do some pretty badass stuff good luck isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dumb Email Time Question
Isaac Curtis wrote: yikes i hear all of you though time seems to confound mozillamail as well all my mail is dated by when it was sent so thanks to the fact that mandrake is used all over the world i get emails from today, yesterday, and tomorrow i have even responded to emails before that have, as far as mozilla is concerned, not yet been sent very complicated indeed isaac, Does mozilla report the time sent using the local time from where an email was sent? (Which is what Netscape 3 does, or does mozilla do something different?) I guess that adds something to my wish list for the perfect email client -- display time sent in UT (or both UT and local time at the sender). Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Need some some file/directory system structure.
I'm overwelmed with the combination of newness and choice in this Linux world, although it's generally what I hoped for and I assume that it will just take time. But one thing that I think is getting in my way is the file system structure. First, I can't identify what kind of file something is by its extension. Second, I don't know what kinds of files belong in etc say, or bin, or whichever. If it's an executable, should be be in home/bin, user bin, home/peter, ...? And what is Lib? I thought at first that this was a library section for documents, but see that it seems to be for certain kinds of executables (files that other files need?) Some Linux basic books that I've seen imply that you can put things wherever you want, That's part of the beauty of ... I've downloaded a couple of programs already and don't have any sense of where I should be putting the download, and then where to expand it. Surprisingly (to me), I have not found any description anywhere of what the default, or standard, or even common file system layouts are. I've tried to search arount and see where the different parts of existing programs are located, but that doesn't seem to work for me. Back to file extensions, etc, how do you know what kind of file you have before you if you select it? Properties doesn't tell you anything, and if I click on it and it is not a text file I get an Open With... That's just what I don't know. It just occurred to me that I'm talking KDE here, but I don't think using the command line would help, until such time that I already knew some of the answers. Are there any Linux or Unix documents that would describe standard/common/acceptable file/directory types. Thanks to anyone who has any suggestions. I don't mean to sound angry (or even critical) I am just a bit frustrated. I need some rules to learn so that I can put them together. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] super mount .....not so super
On Friday 07 September 2001 03:14 pm, David escribió: I just upgraded to MD 8.1 beta2 from 8.0( was working ok before) anyway everything seemed ok untill i found out the CDrom , CDRW and floppy wont mount on boot how do i fix this ?? Supermount has been on vacation since 2.4.6. It was rewritten and introduced back into 2.4.8-18mdk kernels, but not quite ... some problems, one being read only support and some conflicts with KDE ... and so on. From what I hear, 2.4.8-22mdk has it workin again. I'd suggest you wait till mid to late next week and then d/l and install a 2.4.8-22 kernel. That's what I'm fixin to do ;) -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already
I used to have removable harddisk caddies... I had a permanent harddisk setup as secondary master... That had fat32 and ext2 partitions on it.. then I had two harddrives in the cadies.. one for winblows and one for linux... that way, I could console myself to the fact that there was no windows on my PC, until I wanted it... a hard drive caddie costs about 25 bucks AU, (half that for USD) for a good one... no need for dual boot or anything,, alot less hassle... since hard drives are cheap, if you have an old 2 gig hdd or something similiar, you can put windoze on that and just plug it in when you wanna play games or whatever... nice and neat... rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Greer Sent: Friday, 7 September 2001 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already on 9/7/01 8:51 AM, Tom Brinkman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I've already seen several replies to this, so you can see each individuals needs vary quite a bit. For me many graphic design programs don't exist on Linux or aren't on par with their Windows/Mac counterparts. I primarily use Linux for testing my site's php, xml, etc locally. But I still need to revert to Windows when it comes to the design end of my site. Another argument to make is why throw away something you already got stuck for? Most computers come with Windows on CD. You can always reinstall if necessary. I don't prefer dual booting if possible. I'd prefer to go entirely one OS or the vmware/winforlin route. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bash Scripting
On Friday 07 September 2001 09:32, Paul Rodríguez wrote: http://linuxdoc.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html - Paul Rodríguez On 05 Sep 2001 18:14:39 -0300, Nicolás Gómez wrote: Hi In the school we are almost in the part of shell scripting, and the chosen one for these purpose is bash. I'd like to know if you can help with any link to some bash scripting tutorial/manual/eBook. therefore, whatever could help to me Thanks a lot Nicolás Gómez Montevideo, Uruguay Linux Registered User Number #227789 If you have MandrakeLinux, then the initscripts in /etc/rc.d/ and etc/sysinit can be studied. They are what makes the distro set itself up for your machine when you boot. Civileme =_999724616-7607-1610 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hardware detect lockup, installing new network card
On Friday 07 September 2001 17:27, ryan_steffes wrote: I just tried to upgrade to Mandrake 8.1 beta (but I had the same problem with 8.0) to fix some problems I was having with x windows. After having installed Mandrake successfully, I needed to add a network card to my setup, a 3com 905 series card. It was working fine under Mandrake 7.0. What happens is this, I turn the box on, it boots up, does the Harddrake probe, then goes into the detected new hardware. I hit enter to configure the device, it tells me it is about to, then the screen goes blank and nothing happens. I can reboot the computer with ctl-alt-del and that's about it. I don't have any trouble running X from the command line, if I skip the detecting new hardware stage. Any advice? Ryan Steffes It is pretty obvious that you have a conflict in IRQ between your graphics card and your video. Windows assigns them different interrupts through Plug'NPray, but linux does not, depending instead on the BIOS and on the PCI 2.0 specification that says devices can share interrupts (not all devices comply though the 3C905 models do). The easiest solution is to move the network card to a different slot in your box or to play with the assignment of IRQs to PCI slot numbers in the BIOS setup. If the network card is next to the video card, there is your problem. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already
On Thursday 06 September 2001 23:21, Dr. Evil wrote: As far as I know, for most users, there is no use aside from gaming, and even for gaming, there are native Linux games, and apparently quite a few Windows games run under Wine. The other exception is that there are quite a few applications that can ONLY run on Windows for some specific purposes. Perhaps you need Autocad, or some other specific app which is Windows only. But if you're just an ordinary user who surfs the web, does word processing, this kind of thing, you don't need Windows at all. Actually with a little accessory software the winmodem under windows can make a dandy answering machine or automated telephone attendant. If your winmodem is supported by linmodem.org drivers, though, linux can do it too. Still, a phone answering and game machine tucked away in a corner and never connected to the net running something like 98SE would be worthwhile if you have no better use for the hardware. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SiS 630 on Notebooks
On Thursday 06 September 2001 20:52, Navin Daryanani wrote: exactly. Somehow after many many tries I got these steps (IN THAT ORDER) and finally got it to work. I do not mind booting into the console first. Rather I prefer that. BUT the problem with me still remains that once I get into X there is no way I can get back into the text only mode. I mean, if I do get out I can restart X by grovelling in the dark. It is not too much of a problem, and it certainly does not deter me away from linux, but it would certainly be nice to get it working in the proper way. oh! one more thing. I tried watching a dvd movie with xmovie (I think) and the window which came up showed the movie in SPLIT up DIAGONAL everything was slanted. But if I took it to full screen I could see it working properly. Again, not a very big problem but it would be nice to have it working in the proper way. MAYBE if I go about starting from scratch, like compiling a kernel, would help. But till this moment I have not tried it so it is kind of an awe. :-) If u can please redirect us to some indepth secrets of how to tweak it (like the steps u have laid down below) it would be certainly helpful. thanks Navin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of civileme Sent: Friday, 7 September 2001 4:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] SiS 630 on Notebooks 8.0 Video will work First install and let the recommended configuration be made for the SiS. Next, go to console and login as root (select NOT to have X start at boot) from a console use your favorite editor to edit /etc/lilo.conf add the line or change the vga line for the linux boot to vga=791 remove the lines for linux-nonfb booting save quit when the root prompt comes back up # lilo # then reboot Once you are in console, startx will get you to X and you can use Mandrake Control Center to modify how you boot. Some folks are happy to boot to console all the time and then modify various fikles to choose the WindowManager they use, and several seem to like the Xtart rpm in cooker. Civileme Hmmm, well the 630/730 is supposed to be commonly supported by SiS GPL drivers, but not generally on notebooks where the manufacturer has to do some special dodges just to get things to work (then writes special drivers for windows). I wish I had a place I could direct you for more advanced tweaks. If someone out there is running a wiki, maybe people could begin posting their tricks there for others to enjoy. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bash Scripting
Theres Learning the Bash Shell its an O'Reily book. I like it. Useful to a mortal who isnt hacking the kernel rob On Sat, 8 Sep 2001 00:32:13 -0400 civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 07 September 2001 09:32, Paul Rodríguez wrote: http://linuxdoc.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html - Paul Rodríguez On 05 Sep 2001 18:14:39 -0300, Nicolás Gómez wrote: Hi In the school we are almost in the part of shell scripting, and the chosen one for these purpose is bash. I'd like to know if you can help with any link to some bash scripting tutorial/manual/eBook. therefore, whatever could help to me Thanks a lot Nicolás Gómez Montevideo, Uruguay Linux Registered User Number #227789 If you have MandrakeLinux, then the initscripts in /etc/rc.d/ and etc/sysinit can be studied. They are what makes the distro set itself up for your machine when you boot. Civileme =_999724616-7607-1610 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Network Card compatibility
hi, i have few 3com isa 10mb/s cards and they are all 3c509's (no guarantee yours are of course), have you tried looking on the 3com site for a utility to configure it? that way you will know what options to specify in linux (though device manager in windows should give a clue), this might help you identify it as well, does the card have a pnp/manual jumpersettings option? trying one or the other might help any help? bascule On Saturday 08 September 2001 1:59 am, you wrote: As I mentioned in my previous mail, I still have not managed to install Mandrake 8 on my system. The installation gets to the point of asigning root and user password. The problems arise at the NIC detection. My card is 3COM ISA Ethernet 10 MB per sec ( not a combo ). I don't know much else about the model. It gives me a choice of the following. 3COM 3c90x ( Cyclone/Hurricane/Tornado ) 3COM 3c501 3COM 3c503 3COM 3c505 3COM 3c507 3COM 3c509 3COM 3c515 3COM 3c59x(Vortex) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome
Mark Johnson wrote: I don't know of any comparisons between KDE and GNOME. On the surface KDE is more Windows like and GNOME is more Mac like, but it's only cosmetic. I was a KDE user for a long long time, but I downloaded the Ximian desktop and it's really nice, I've completely switched. Both (K/G) are highly configurable and the Ximian desktop can be configured to look more Windows like or more Mac like... -Original Message- From: Peter Rymshaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On the down side, there did not seem to be any way already set up for accessing the CD-ROM or Floppy (Does Gnome require that they be mounted for each use as in early version of KDE I tried once in an unsuccessful try at Linux about 2 years ago?) The traditional Linux way is to require mounting. At least two utilities exist to automatically mount, and I believe one of these is included with Mandrake, most versions. In addition, Mandrake includes floppy disk and CD-Rom icons on the (KDE, at least) desktop which let you easily access the floppy and CD-Rom. (I don't know if they make use of the automount utilities, or if mount is part of the command that is executed when the icon is clicked (or double clicked, or whatever). Hope this helps, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
