Re: [newbie] SCSI module change from 2.6 to 2.4
Hi Ronald, 'cat /proc/interrupts' works well! Thanks for the input. There appears to be no conflict, yet my dmx3191d scsi card while bearing an irq, rates 0 beneath CPU0. Is this correct do you think? Best wishes, Malcolm Candlish. On Thursday 31 Mar 2005 14:25, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Wednesday 30 March 2005 04:21 pm, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Does anyone know a good way to check for IRQ conflict or have any other suggestion a to why it crashes. Hi Malcom. Just do a cat /proc/interrupts and you'll get the output that should help you determine if there is an IRQ conflict. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI module change from 2.6 to 2.4
On Wednesday 30 March 2005 04:21 pm, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Does anyone know a good way to check for IRQ conflict or have any other suggestion a to why it crashes. Hi Malcom. Just do a cat /proc/interrupts and you'll get the output that should help you determine if there is an IRQ conflict. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI module change from 2.6 to 2.4
On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 20:49, Malcolm Candlish wrote: On Wednesday 23 Mar 2005 23:16, Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 23 March 2005 19:38, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Hi , Is it possible to successfully change the kernel on Mandrake 10.1 64 bit from 2.6 to 2.4. I do know that 2.4 modules run my scanner whereas the 2.6 will not run module dmx3191d. Is there a downside to doing this. Thank you for your time. Malcolm Candlish. Yes you can quite easily. With your Software Install GUI enter kernel in the search box You will see a list of available kernels. Install the 2.4 kernel. It will become the default kernel. Your 2.6 kernel will still be available in the lilo menu. If you want to change the default kernel use the Boot GUI in Mandrake Control centre. Note the 2.4 kernel loads its modules according to /etc/modules.conf, while the 2.6 kernel uses /etc/modprobe.conf so you must ensure both files are set up correctly. If you have an Nvidia video card and use the proprietary driver you will have to compile it for each kernel version (using the correct kernel-source) My own scanner does not work with the 2.6 kernel so I have to boot with 2.4 whenever I want to use it. derek Thank you Derek. This seems to be a logical way forward and I downloaded the new kernel as you suggested. It went very smoothly. However, I still get an insmod problem, which you may have dealt with. This is with the new 2.4 kernel. It is as follows and if you have any ideas please let me know. Since writing this mail, part of the problem has been solved by changing permissions to 777 and making files executable. However, after insmod (ing) the module the scanner starts normally but goes into total computer crash after about 10 seconds. Does anyone know a good way to check for IRQ conflict or have any other suggestion a to why it crashes. The change of kernel truly surprised me by its straight forwardness and if other Lister's cannot get hardware to work with 2.6 would advise them to try 2.4. Mandrake is extraordinarily versatile. Malcolm Candlish. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI module change from 2.6 to 2.4
On Wednesday 23 Mar 2005 23:16, Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 23 March 2005 19:38, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Hi , Is it possible to successfully change the kernel on Mandrake 10.1 64 bit from 2.6 to 2.4. I do know that 2.4 modules run my scanner whereas the 2.6 will not run module dmx3191d. Is there a downside to doing this. Thank you for your time. Malcolm Candlish. Yes you can quite easily. With your Software Install GUI enter kernel in the search box You will see a list of available kernels. Install the 2.4 kernel. It will become the default kernel. Your 2.6 kernel will still be available in the lilo menu. If you want to change the default kernel use the Boot GUI in Mandrake Control centre. Note the 2.4 kernel loads its modules according to /etc/modules.conf, while the 2.6 kernel uses /etc/modprobe.conf so you must ensure both files are set up correctly. If you have an Nvidia video card and use the proprietary driver you will have to compile it for each kernel version (using the correct kernel-source) My own scanner does not work with the 2.6 kernel so I have to boot with 2.4 whenever I want to use it. derek Thank you Derek. This seems to be a logical way forward and I downloaded the new kernel as you suggested. It went very smoothly. However, I still get an insmod problem, which you may have dealt with. This is with the new 2.4 kernel. It is as follows and if you have any ideas please let me know. On trying to insmod module:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# insmod-f /lib/modules/2.4.28-0.rc1.5mdk/kernel/driver s/scsi/dmx3191d.o /lib/modules/2.4.28-0.rc1.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.o: /lib/modules/2.4. 28-0.rc1.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.o: unresolved symbol print_msg_R8cc5a e07 Even if you can't crack it, I do thank you for all your kind help. Malcolm Candlish. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI card install for Trust Scanner.
On Tuesday 22 Mar 2005 17:14, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Malcolm Candlish wrote: Hi, The system I use is Mandrake 10.1 86_64 . I used insmod to install module dmx3191d.ko for my scsi card which is necessary for my Trust Scanner. However I get the following return:- '-1 Unknown symbol in module.' Should I make a kernel bug report to to Linux, or is something else not appropriate. With thanks, Malcolm Candlih. Before thinking of making a bug report, try using modprobe inplace of insmod. The difference is that modprobe will load any modules that your modules needs in order to work, while insmod just tries to load the module you specified. The way things are structured, it is not unusual for 2 or 3 modules to need to be loaded for a driver to work. In this case, you probably need a common SCSI modules as well as the basic driver module. The reasion the common module code is in a seperate module is that it is used by many different modules, and will be shared by them if you have more then one loaded. modprobe dmx3191d Mikkel Dear Mikkel, I tried a you suggested with the following reult:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# /sbin/modprobe '/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko' FATAL: Module /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko not found. [EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# /sbin/insmod '/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko' insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module Under insmod '-1 Unknown symbol in module', and under modprobe 'not found' even though I included the full path! I don't know of any other modules that could be needed. Thank you, I do appreciate your kind input. Malcolm Candlish. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI card install for Trust Scanner.
Malcolm Candlish wrote: On Tuesday 22 Mar 2005 17:14, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Malcolm Candlish wrote: Hi, The system I use is Mandrake 10.1 86_64 . I used insmod to install module dmx3191d.ko for my scsi card which is necessary for my Trust Scanner. However I get the following return:- '-1 Unknown symbol in module.' Should I make a kernel bug report to to Linux, or is something else not appropriate. With thanks, Malcolm Candlih. Before thinking of making a bug report, try using modprobe inplace of insmod. The difference is that modprobe will load any modules that your modules needs in order to work, while insmod just tries to load the module you specified. The way things are structured, it is not unusual for 2 or 3 modules to need to be loaded for a driver to work. In this case, you probably need a common SCSI modules as well as the basic driver module. The reasion the common module code is in a seperate module is that it is used by many different modules, and will be shared by them if you have more then one loaded. modprobe dmx3191d Mikkel Dear Mikkel, I tried a you suggested with the following reult:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# /sbin/modprobe '/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko' FATAL: Module /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko not found. [EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# /sbin/insmod '/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko' insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module Under insmod '-1 Unknown symbol in module', and under modprobe 'not found' even though I included the full path! I don't know of any other modules that could be needed. Thank you, I do appreciate your kind input. Malcolm Candlish. Try modprobe dmx3191d instead. That is the form needed for modprobe. It will use the modules for the currently running kernel. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] SCSI module change from 2.6 to 2.4
Hi , Is it possible to successfully change the kernel on Mandrake 10.1 64 bit from 2.6 to 2.4. I do know that 2.4 modules run my scanner whereas the 2.6 will not run module dmx3191d. Is there a downside to doing this. Thank you for your time. Malcolm Candlish. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI card install for Trust Scanner.
On Wednesday 23 Mar 2005 14:02, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Malcolm Candlish wrote: On Tuesday 22 Mar 2005 17:14, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Malcolm Candlish wrote: Hi, The system I use is Mandrake 10.1 86_64 . I used insmod to install module dmx3191d.ko for my scsi card which is necessary for my Trust Scanner. However I get the following return:- '-1 Unknown symbol in module.' Should I make a kernel bug report to to Linux, or is something else not appropriate. With thanks, Malcolm Candlih. Before thinking of making a bug report, try using modprobe inplace of insmod. The difference is that modprobe will load any modules that your modules needs in order to work, while insmod just tries to load the module you specified. The way things are structured, it is not unusual for 2 or 3 modules to need to be loaded for a driver to work. In this case, you probably need a common SCSI modules as well as the basic driver module. The reasion the common module code is in a seperate module is that it is used by many different modules, and will be shared by them if you have more then one loaded. modprobe dmx3191d Mikkel Dear Mikkel, I tried a you suggested with the following reult:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# /sbin/modprobe '/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko' FATAL: Module /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko not found. [EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# /sbin/insmod '/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko' insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module Under insmod '-1 Unknown symbol in module', and under modprobe 'not found' even though I included the full path! I don't know of any other modules that could be needed. Thank you, I do appreciate your kind input. Malcolm Candlish. Try modprobe dmx3191d instead. That is the form needed for modprobe. It will use the modules for the currently running kernel. Mikkel Dear Mikkel, I tried with the naked modprobe with this result:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# modprobe dmx3191d.ko FATAL: Module dmx3191d.ko not found. [EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# modprobe dmx3191d FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko.gz': No such file or directory dmx3191d.ko.gz does not exist as I have used gunzip which I repeated on dmx3191d.ko just to be sure. Prior to receiving your very kind e-mail, I posted an e-mail onto the list as to whether I could use the 2.4 kernel with Mandrake 10.1 64 bit. I do know that the requirede module will work in linux 2.4. However I am not so sure as to whether it would work with Mandrake 10.1 64 bit. Thank you so much Mikkel for your helpful support and time. Malcolm Candlish. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI module change from 2.6 to 2.4
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 19:38, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Hi , Is it possible to successfully change the kernel on Mandrake 10.1 64 bit from 2.6 to 2.4. I do know that 2.4 modules run my scanner whereas the 2.6 will not run module dmx3191d. Is there a downside to doing this. Thank you for your time. Malcolm Candlish. Yes you can quite easily. With your Software Install GUI enter kernel in the search box You will see a list of available kernels. Install the 2.4 kernel. It will become the default kernel. Your 2.6 kernel will still be available in the lilo menu. If you want to change the default kernel use the Boot GUI in Mandrake Control centre. Note the 2.4 kernel loads its modules according to /etc/modules.conf, while the 2.6 kernel uses /etc/modprobe.conf so you must ensure both files are set up correctly. If you have an Nvidia video card and use the proprietary driver you will have to compile it for each kernel version (using the correct kernel-source) My own scanner does not work with the 2.6 kernel so I have to boot with 2.4 whenever I want to use it. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] SCSI card install for Trust Scanner.
Hi, The system I use is Mandrake 10.1 86_64 . I used insmod to install module dmx3191d.ko for my scsi card which is necessary for my Trust Scanner. However I get the following return:- '-1 Unknown symbol in module.' Should I make a kernel bug report to to Linux, or is something else not appropriate. With thanks, Malcolm Candlih. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI card install for Trust Scanner.
Malcolm Candlish wrote: Hi, The system I use is Mandrake 10.1 86_64 . I used insmod to install module dmx3191d.ko for my scsi card which is necessary for my Trust Scanner. However I get the following return:- '-1 Unknown symbol in module.' Should I make a kernel bug report to to Linux, or is something else not appropriate. With thanks, Malcolm Candlih. Before thinking of making a bug report, try using modprobe inplace of insmod. The difference is that modprobe will load any modules that your modules needs in order to work, while insmod just tries to load the module you specified. The way things are structured, it is not unusual for 2 or 3 modules to need to be loaded for a driver to work. In this case, you probably need a common SCSI modules as well as the basic driver module. The reasion the common module code is in a seperate module is that it is used by many different modules, and will be shared by them if you have more then one loaded. modprobe dmx3191d Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] SCSI Scanner problem
Hi all Since upgrading to kernel 2.6.3-15, I am unable to access my SCSI scanners. I have a Benq 610s on a Symbios 53c810 card and a Canon FS4000 on a Tekram TRM-S1040 card. Under the 2.4 kernel I could reinitialise these using the rescan-scsi-bus.sh shell script. Now however, I cannot access them at all, and even rebooting does not recognise them. Proc/scsi/scsi is empty, as is /dev/scsi/. Harddrake shows the scsi cards present with modules sym53c8xx and dc395x_trm respectively. Can anyone advise me where to look next please? I don't use the scanners very often, but would like to have them working again. Even trying to boot back into the old kernel failed with a kernel panic because the modules were configured for the newer kernel. Thanks for your thoughts Russell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Scanner problem
Russell Butler wrote: Hi all Since upgrading to kernel 2.6.3-15, I am unable to access my SCSI scanners. I have a Benq 610s on a Symbios 53c810 card and a Canon FS4000 on a Tekram TRM-S1040 card. Under the 2.4 kernel I could reinitialise these using the rescan-scsi-bus.sh shell script. Now however, I cannot access them at all, and even rebooting does not recognise them. Proc/scsi/scsi is empty, as is /dev/scsi/. Harddrake shows the scsi cards present with modules sym53c8xx and dc395x_trm respectively. Can anyone advise me where to look next please? I don't use the scanners very often, but would like to have them working again. Even trying to boot back into the old kernel failed with a kernel panic because the modules were configured for the newer kernel. Replying to my own problem. Mandrake.expert list gave me the clue. Modprobe the two modules as root enabled them to connect and are now identified and usable. # cat /proc/scsi/scsi Attached devices: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00 Vendor: CANONModel: IX-40015GRev: 1.07 Type: Scanner ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: ColorModel: FlatbedScanner_4 Rev: 0107 Type: Scanner ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Thought it might help someaone else with similar problems. Russell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI MO Disk not configured by Mandrake 10.0
On Tuesday 29 June 2004 11:42, Malcom Schnabel wrote: I have downloaded and installed Mandrake Linux 10.0 on my extra computer. Everything appears to be working perfectly with the exception of my MO Drive. HardDrake had no problem recognizing the drive (Olympus MOS540) or the SCSI host adapter (Adaptec AHA-7850). Unfortunately, when I try to access my disks there are no files visible. From all appearances the disks are blank even though I have verified on other computers that they are not (Both MS Windows and SCO-Unix formats). Also, Mandrake automatically set up icons on the desktop for direct access to my floppy drive and my CD-ROM but nothing appeared for the optical drive. I don't know what I'm doing as far as manually setting up and mounting drives. I am a newbie in every sense of the word when it comes to Linux. I do have 25 years of experience with DOS/Windows though. Perhaps that is part of the problem. Any help you can provide will be most appreciated. It sounds like the drives arnt mounted. To mount a drive you must have a directory for it in the case of CD or floppy that is usually under /mnt (/mnt/cdrom or /mnt/floppy) for HD it can be anywhere under '/'(/ is the parent directory). You can 'mkdir /mnt/misc' and issue 'mount /mnt/misc' but first you must define the drive in '/etc/fstab' Read the Fine Manual (RTFM) by issueing 'man mount' check at the bottom for other refereces. I know you likely dont need such a basic explanation but one never knows. Have Fun. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] SCSI MO Disk not configured by Mandrake 10.0
I have downloaded and installed Mandrake Linux 10.0 on my extra computer. Everything appears to be working perfectly with the exception of my MO Drive. HardDrake had no problem recognizing the drive (Olympus MOS540) or the SCSI host adapter (Adaptec AHA-7850). Unfortunately, when I try to access my disks there are no files visible. From all appearances the disks are blank even though I have verified on other computers that they are not (Both MS Windows and SCO-Unix formats). Also, Mandrake automatically set up icons on the desktop for direct access to my floppy drive and my CD-ROM but nothing appeared for the optical drive. I don't know what I'm doing as far as manually setting up and mounting drives. I am a newbie in every sense of the word when it comes to Linux. I do have 25 years of experience with DOS/Windows though. Perhaps that is part of the problem. Any help you can provide will be most appreciated. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] SCSI MO Drive not configured by Mandrake 10.0
I have downloaded and installed Mandrake Linux 10.0 on my extra computer. Everything appears to be working perfectly with the exception of my MO Drive. HardDrake had no problem recognizing the drive (Olympus MOS540) or the SCSI host adapter (Adaptec AHA-7850). Unfortunately, when I try to access my disks there are no files visible. From all appearances the disks are blank even though I have verified on other computers that they are not (Both MS Windows and SCO-Unix formats). Also, Mandrake automatically set up icons on the desktop for direct access to my floppy drive and my CD-ROM but nothing appeared for the optical drive. I don't know what I'm doing as far as manually setting up and mounting drives. I am a newbie in every sense of the word when it comes to Linux. I do have 25 years of experience with DOS/Windows though. Perhaps that is part of the problem. Any help you can provide will be most appreciated. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers!
[newbie] SCSI Drive
I was just given an old computer that uses SCSI drives. I have never worked with SCSI before. When I boot it up it goes through the BIOS and then a black screen with: BusLogic Bios Version 4.96I Intelligent Bus Master SCSI Host Adapter (C) 1995BusLogic INC And then it just sits there. Any advice would be lovely. Cheers, -- Job Evers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive
On Thursday 24 June 2004 16:16, Job Evers wrote: I was just given an old computer that uses SCSI drives. I have never worked with SCSI before. When I boot it up it goes through the BIOS and then a black screen with: BusLogic Bios Version 4.96I Intelligent Bus Master SCSI Host Adapter (C) 1995BusLogic INC And then it just sits there. Any advice would be lovely. Cheers, Can't help you here, but it reminds me of the good, old days when installing linux (around 7.0). Immidiately after the boot, the system asked : do you have any scsi devices ? - Since that question has disappeared in later versions, I guess the kernels should recognize scsi devices automatically ? - Or maybe you should try a contemporary kernel - I think 2.2 is still floating around out there. Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * http://www.haulrich.net * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive
Job Evers wrote: I was just given an old computer that uses SCSI drives. I have never worked with SCSI before. When I boot it up it goes through the BIOS and then a black screen with: BusLogic Bios Version 4.96I Intelligent Bus Master SCSI Host Adapter (C) 1995BusLogic INC And then it just sits there. Any advice would be lovely. Cheers, If your hardware is working correctly, it is normally scanning the SCSI bus at this point, to see what is connected. (The controller board has its own BIOS that is running.) I am not sure of the exact sequence of this controller, but if it just sits there, I would suspect that your SCSI drive are not terminated properly, or they are addressed wrong. Let it sit at that point for about 5 minutes, and see what it comes back with, if anything. More information on the hardware would also help. (Number and type of drives. Internal and/or external drives, ect.) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:48:30 -0500 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: If your hardware is working correctly, it is normally scanning the SCSI bus at this point, to see what is connected. (The controller board has its own BIOS that is running.) I am not sure of the exact sequence of this controller, but if it just sits there, I would suspect that your SCSI drive are not terminated properly, or they are addressed wrong. Let it sit at that point for about 5 minutes, and see what it comes back with, if anything. More information on the hardware would also help. (Number and type of drives. Internal and/or external drives, ect.) Yes, it does just sit there. When I disconnect the drives the computer moves past the 'scanning screen' and boots up fine into the cdrom. Regarding the hardware, it is a BusLogic controller. I have two hardrives connected to it. Both are internal ibm scsi drives (model number ddrs-39130) Thanks for your help -- Job Evers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive
Job Evers wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:48:30 -0500 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: If your hardware is working correctly, it is normally scanning the SCSI bus at this point, to see what is connected. (The controller board has its own BIOS that is running.) I am not sure of the exact sequence of this controller, but if it just sits there, I would suspect that your SCSI drive are not terminated properly, or they are addressed wrong. Let it sit at that point for about 5 minutes, and see what it comes back with, if anything. More information on the hardware would also help. (Number and type of drives. Internal and/or external drives, ect.) Yes, it does just sit there. When I disconnect the drives the computer moves past the 'scanning screen' and boots up fine into the cdrom. Regarding the hardware, it is a BusLogic controller. I have two hardrives connected to it. Both are internal ibm scsi drives (model number ddrs-39130) Thanks for your help This makes me think that the SCSI cable is not properly terminated. A SCSI cable has to be terminated on both ends. With internal drives, this is normally done on the controller board, and ether the last drive on the cable, or a terminerator on the end of the cable. The controller card can ether have auto-termination, or have a jumper to control it. The drive will have a jumper, and possible removable resister packs. (I have not had a chance to check the drive numbers.) If the cable has a terminator, it will ether be plugged into the last connector, or be built into the end of the cable. Troubleshooting SCSI problems can be a challenge. If I remember right, there is a SCSI HOWTO. See if this helps. If not, see if you can determine how things are terminated. You can also try booting with just the last drive in the chain connected, and see what that does. I can probably be of more help later tonight... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive
Guy Rouillier wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:30:35 -0500 Job Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the advice. I jiggled some of the cables around and eventually found a combination that worked for at least one of the drives. At least I know it works. I will keep messing around with settings, relying upon trial and error until I can get both drives recognized and working. No need for guesswork, the rules are pretty simple: (1) Each SCSI device must have a unique ID. This is set by jumpers, usually on the back of the drive, but sometimes on the circuit board. I have BusLogic, and it usually sets itself up for the highest SCSI ID (7 for narrow, 15 for wide). That is configurable but there really is no reason to do so. (2) The easiest thing to do is to configure your boot drive as SCSI ID 0. Some OSes require it, others prefer it, still others don't care. Again, this is usually configurable in the SCSI BIOS, but you'll save yourself some potential grief by just setting it to zero. (3) Each end of the cable must be terminated. Unless you have external devices, the controller is considered one end of the cable, and usually automatically terminates itself. Again, that is configurable in the SCSI BIOS. The other end of the cable will be attached to one of your drives. The drive on the end of the cable must be terminated, all other drives must NOT be terminated. Termination is typically accomplished either by a jumper or by a special terminator insert with a bunch of pins sticking out of it. That's it. Not too bad, right? A couple of things. The drive at the end of the cable is not terminated if you have a cable with a built-in terminator, (I have a couple of these.) or you use a terminator that plugs into the last connector of the cable. (I have seen them, but I do not own one.) You also need something on the cable configured to provide termination power. this is usually the last drive, but some controller boards also have a jumper for it. (And a jumper to get/provide termination power to/from the cable.) The special terminator insert is actually a resister pack. There may a dot on one end to indicate pin 1, depending on how the pack is wired. Putting that type in backwards causes strange errors. There are also some other jumper setting on the drive, and in the BIOS that should match, but we can get into them if you run into more problems... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:19:23 -0400 Guy Rouillier wrote: No need for guesswork, the rules are pretty simple: (1) Each SCSI device must have a unique ID. This is set by jumpers, usually on the back of the drive, but sometimes on the circuit board. I have BusLogic, and it usually sets itself up for the highest SCSI ID (7 for narrow, 15 for wide). That is configurable but there really is no reason to do so. (2) The easiest thing to do is to configure your boot drive as SCSI ID 0. Some OSes require it, others prefer it, still others don't care. Again, this is usually configurable in the SCSI BIOS, but you'll save yourself some potential grief by just setting it to zero. (3) Each end of the cable must be terminated. Unless you have external devices, the controller is considered one end of the cable, and usually automatically terminates itself. Again, that is configurable in the SCSI BIOS. The other end of the cable will be attached to one of your drives. The drive on the end of the cable must be terminated, all other drives must NOT be terminated. Termination is typically accomplished either by a jumper or by a special terminator insert with a bunch of pins sticking out of it. That's it. Not too bad, right? Nah, it was pretty easy now that you have explained it too me. Thanks for the details. Now lets hope the installation goes without a hitch. -- Job Evers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] SCSI Detection problem
Thanks for the response, unfortunately it did not work. After booting expert and choosing the aic7xxx_old driver I had the same problem. Note: Booting with kernel 2.6 renders an error loading the module or something like that. Anyway, with the alt1 image (kernel 2.4) I could get as far as freezing while trying to detect the HDs but this time I could see some response of what it was trying to do: (scsi0:0:0:1) Device reset, message buffer in use SCSI host 0 channel 0 reset (pid 1) timed out - trying harder SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0 SCSI host abort (pid 1) timed out - resetting SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0 These messages repeated over and over till I gave up. Btw, Suse 9 is working perfectly and uses version 6.2.36 of the aic7xxx driver, which is quite recent so I am not sure if it is related to the driver. Appreciate any help, Bernardo de Barros Franco -Original Message- On Wednesday 16 June 2004 08:45 pm, Bernardo de Barros Franco wrote: | Hello, | | I have tried to install Mandrake 9 and 10 to no avail, they both freeze | after installing the module for the scsi controller, before (while?) | detecting the scsi hds attached to it. | The funny thing is that I got the installation cds for OpenBSD 3.3, Suse | 9 and Red Hat 7.3 all to detect my both HDs out of the box. | My configuration (as lspci and dmesg from the Suse installation): | 1 VIA-chipset motherboard with 512 RAM DDR400, a Pentium 4 1.8ghz | processor, a CDROM on ide0 and a Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D SCSI controller | (id 7) that controls 2 IBM-PSG DNES-309170W 9.1Gb hard drives on ids 0 | and 1. | After booting from the cd (Mandrake 10) and trying to install with the | 2.6 kernel I get a error when insmodding the aic7xxx. Since I've read | somewhere that that is expected with that kernel I try an alternate boot | image (the 2.4 kernel one). The module is installed ok (version 6.2.36) | and detects AIC-7881U. My controller is found correctly but then when it | should list my HDs, it just stays there forever. I have tried 2 | different medias for the version 10 install and tried once other media | with version 9 which had the exact same problem. | I am feeling particularly frustrated since Suse 9 has apparently the | same aic7xxx module version 6.2.36 and detects the HDs without any | issues. As stated above the detection also was successful on Red Hat 7.3 | and OpenBSD 3.3, but I really would ratter use Mandrake ;) | | Thanks in advance, | Bernardo de Barros Franco You probably have one of the older Adaptec 2940 SCSI controllers. They changed the drivers for their newer models a couple of years ago, and the driver that Mandrake installs is the new driver, which doesn't work with the old 2940. Last I knew, the old driver was still on the disk, however, and was listed as the aic7xxx_Old (or something similar). To install this driver you need to boot the install and type expert to get to the choices which include the old driver. The reason RH7.x works is they were still using the old driver back then. Probably ditto for BSD3--don't know about Suse. The last Mandrake distro that installed the old driver as default was 8.2. If you need more info, Google is you friend. hth Erylon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] SCSI Detection problem
Hello, I have tried to install Mandrake 9 and 10 to no avail, they both freeze after installing the module for the scsi controller, before (while?) detecting the scsi hds attached to it. The funny thing is that I got the installation cds for OpenBSD 3.3, Suse 9 and Red Hat 7.3 all to detect my both HDs out of the box. My configuration (as lspci and dmesg from the Suse installation): 1 VIA-chipset motherboard with 512 RAM DDR400, a Pentium 4 1.8ghz processor, a CDROM on ide0 and a Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D SCSI controller (id 7) that controls 2 IBM-PSG DNES-309170W 9.1Gb hard drives on ids 0 and 1. After booting from the cd (Mandrake 10) and trying to install with the 2.6 kernel I get a error when insmodding the aic7xxx. Since Ive read somewhere that that is expected with that kernel I try an alternate boot image (the 2.4 kernel one). The module is installed ok (version 6.2.36) and detects AIC-7881U. My controller is found correctly but then when it should list my HDs, it just stays there forever. I have tried 2 different medias for the version 10 install and tried once other media with version 9 which had the exact same problem. I am feeling particularly frustrated since Suse 9 has apparently the same aic7xxx module version 6.2.36 and detects the HDs without any issues. As stated above the detection also was successful on Red Hat 7.3 and OpenBSD 3.3, but I really would ratter use Mandrake ;) Thanks in advance, Bernardo de Barros Franco
[newbie] SCSI Detection problem
Hello, I have tried to install Mandrake 9 and 10 to no avail, they both freeze after installing the module for the scsi controller, before (while?) detecting the scsi hds attached to it. The funny thing is that I got the installation cds for OpenBSD 3.3, Suse 9 and Red Hat 7.3 all to detect my both HDs out of the box. My configuration (as lspci and dmesg from the Suse installation): 1 VIA-chipset motherboard with 512 RAM DDR400, a Pentium 4 1.8ghz processor, a CDROM on ide0 and a Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D SCSI controller (id 7) that controls 2 IBM-PSG DNES-309170W 9.1Gb hard drives on ids 0 and 1. After booting from the cd (Mandrake 10) and trying to install with the 2.6 kernel I get a error when insmodding the aic7xxx. Since I've read somewhere that that is expected with that kernel I try an alternate boot image (the 2.4 kernel one). The module is installed ok (version 6.2.36) and detects AIC-7881U. My controller is found correctly but then when it should list my HDs, it just stays there forever. I have tried 2 different medias for the version 10 install and tried once other media with version 9 which had the exact same problem. I am feeling particularly frustrated since Suse 9 has apparently the same aic7xxx module version 6.2.36 and detects the HDs without any issues. As stated above the detection also was successful on Red Hat 7.3 and OpenBSD 3.3, but I really would ratter use Mandrake ;) PS: Reposting in plain-text, sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks in advance, Bernardo de Barros Franco Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Detection problem
On Wednesday 16 June 2004 08:45 pm, Bernardo de Barros Franco wrote: | Hello, | | I have tried to install Mandrake 9 and 10 to no avail, they both freeze | after installing the module for the scsi controller, before (while?) | detecting the scsi hds attached to it. | The funny thing is that I got the installation cds for OpenBSD 3.3, Suse | 9 and Red Hat 7.3 all to detect my both HDs out of the box. | My configuration (as lspci and dmesg from the Suse installation): | 1 VIA-chipset motherboard with 512 RAM DDR400, a Pentium 4 1.8ghz | processor, a CDROM on ide0 and a Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D SCSI controller | (id 7) that controls 2 IBM-PSG DNES-309170W 9.1Gb hard drives on ids 0 | and 1. | After booting from the cd (Mandrake 10) and trying to install with the | 2.6 kernel I get a error when insmodding the aic7xxx. Since I've read | somewhere that that is expected with that kernel I try an alternate boot | image (the 2.4 kernel one). The module is installed ok (version 6.2.36) | and detects AIC-7881U. My controller is found correctly but then when it | should list my HDs, it just stays there forever. I have tried 2 | different medias for the version 10 install and tried once other media | with version 9 which had the exact same problem. | I am feeling particularly frustrated since Suse 9 has apparently the | same aic7xxx module version 6.2.36 and detects the HDs without any | issues. As stated above the detection also was successful on Red Hat 7.3 | and OpenBSD 3.3, but I really would ratter use Mandrake ;) | | Thanks in advance, | Bernardo de Barros Franco You probably have one of the older Adaptec 2940 SCSI controllers. They changed the drivers for their newer models a couple of years ago, and the driver that Mandrake installs is the new driver, which doesn't work with the old 2940. Last I knew, the old driver was still on the disk, however, and was listed as the aic7xxx_Old (or something similar). To install this driver you need to boot the install and type expert to get to the choices which include the old driver. The reason RH7.x works is they were still using the old driver back then. Probably ditto for BSD3--don't know about Suse. The last Mandrake distro that installed the old driver as default was 8.2. If you need more info, Google is you friend. hth Erylon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] SCSI problems (cont).
For some reason, the original reply attempt was bounced by the Mandrake Newbie mailing list. Here it is again: YG It worked that way with Mandrake 7.0 and 8.0, now it shows these problems. YG YG On some ocasions, when I boot into windows I connect a SCSI scanner or YG another device to it. I don't use the SCSI card often under windows and never YG under Linux. If I would never use it under windows I would just remove the card. YG YG If somebody can tell me how I can tell the Kernel to just ignore this card YG (without being able to boot this kernel of course) then I think I would be YG happy. YG YG YG Okay, then why not just hook the scanner up and leave it there? I'm using a SCSI scanner (Umax Astra 1200) with my Linux setup and it works fine. Sane should be able to use what you've got - what model is it? Why not just use Linux for your scanning needs and dump Windoze all together... grin -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] SCSI Tape drive tuning
I have an HP SureStore 12000e tape drive I use for backup, and while it should be capable of 1MB/s it generally performs lower than that, most of the time at or around the 400KB/s rate (using 'dd bs=1M' to time things). Is there someplace I could look for tuning ideas? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] scsi emulation
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:46:41 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lee Wiggers wrote: I don't know how to set the scsi emulation. snip Thank you for the help, but I have tried altering fstab to the point where I now get an error on boot and lost the original. (sigh) I changed lilo, ran lilo, and have diddled with fstab unmercifully. I compared his lilo and fstab to mine and tried to ammend his to what I think it should be to be recognised, but to no avail. I'll start by starting over and see what you all have to add. Any more thoughts? Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] scsi emulation
Lee Wiggers wrote: On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:46:41 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lee Wiggers wrote: I don't know how to set the scsi emulation. snip Thank you for the help, but I have tried altering fstab to the point where I now get an error on boot and lost the original. (sigh) I changed lilo, ran lilo, and have diddled with fstab unmercifully. I compared his lilo and fstab to mine and tried to ammend his to what I think it should be to be recognised, but to no avail. I'll start by starting over and see what you all have to add. Any more thoughts? Lee Best thing you can do is post your /etc/lilo.conf and e/tc/fstab here and lets see what your've got ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] scsi emulation
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:48:19 -0500 Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:46:41 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lee Wiggers wrote: I don't know how to set the scsi emulation. snip Thank you for the help, but I have tried altering fstab to the point where I now get an error on boot and lost the original. (sigh) I changed lilo, ran lilo, and have diddled with fstab unmercifully. I compared his lilo and fstab to mine and tried to ammend his to what I think it should be to be recognised, but to no avail. I'll start by starting over and see what you all have to add. Any more thoughts? Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Well, gcombust is working but somehow I wound up with 8 mounted cdroms. cdrom0 works perfectly, but have no idea how I got here. Gotta love it. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] scsi emulation
I just installed a new burner in my brother's box, then learned how to use gcombust on mine so I could be a hero. Fell flat because I don't know how to set the scsi emulation. After the install, there is no scsi drive found. What did I miss? Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] scsi emulation
On Friday 31 October 2003 07:43 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: I just installed a new burner in my brother's box, then learned how to use gcombust on mine so I could be a hero. Fell flat because I don't know how to set the scsi emulation. After the install, there is no scsi drive found. What did I miss? You need to add the hd?=ide-scsi line to lilo.conf and reload lilo by issuing the lilo command. When you install a new CDwriter drive, Mandrake does not detect and automatically set it up to emulate SCSI, you need to add the line manually to do that. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] scsi emulation
Lee Wiggers wrote: I don't know how to set the scsi emulation. After the install, there is no scsi drive found. Lee Add to append line in /etc/lilo.conf append= hdc=ide-scsi The /etc/fstab may need altering if you want to mount it . John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] scsi emulation and CD sources
I've recently added scsi emulation for my ATAPI CDROM, would this be the reason I see, unable to retrieve pathname for removable medium for all CDs when I try urpmi?... and if so where do I change the path to scd1 for the sources? Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] scsi emulation and CD sources
On Friday 10 Oct 2003 5:21 pm, C. Tresenriter wrote: I've recently added scsi emulation for my ATAPI CDROM, would this be the reason I see, unable to retrieve pathname for removable medium for all CDs when I try urpmi?... and if so where do I change the path to scd1 for the sources? Thanks You need to edit the line in /etc/fstab for your cdrom device Replace the /dev/hdc (or whatever) with /dev/scd0 (or whatever) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] scsi emulation and CD sources
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:15:27 +0100 DJ wrote: |On Friday 10 Oct 2003 5:21 pm, C. Tresenriter wrote: | I've recently added scsi emulation for my ATAPI CDROM, would this be |the reason I see, unable to retrieve pathname for removable medium |for all CDs when I try urpmi?... and if so where do I change the path |to scd1 for the sources? | Thanks | |You need to edit the line in /etc/fstab for your cdrom device |Replace the /dev/hdc (or whatever) with /dev/scd0 (or whatever) | |derek Thanks Derek. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
On 23 Jun 2003 10:39:36 -0500 Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello yet again John. This morning when I booted I discovered that I no longer have access to my CDRW drive!! I still get the two FAILED entries on boot up but now they both end with mount 0 does not exist. I checked my /dev directory and found no listing for either /hdb or/scd1. However in my /mnt directory I find cdrw, cdrom, scd1, and scd0. That is beyond me. Since I have 2 CD's which are both scsi emulated and working properly, Here is your fstab with MY fstab's two cdrom entries. Try this fstab, if that still doesn't work, delete the supermount word from both lines and try again. If you do delete the supoermount word from fstab, you have to type mount -a as root to get them to mount (There will be an error if you don't have a cd in both drives. You DON'T need to mount a blank cdr for burning. Anyway, here it is: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,unhide,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 I suggest that when it is working properly, immediately back up your stuff before you shut your computer down. Then, you can do a full install of Mandrake 9.1. John Drouhard -- Mon Jun 23 10:53:45 UTC 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
Hello yet again John. This morning when I booted I discovered that I no longer have access to my CDRW drive!! I still get the two FAILED entries on boot up but now they both end with mount 0 does not exist. I checked my /dev directory and found no listing for either /hdb or/scd1. However in my /mnt directory I find cdrw, cdrom, scd1, and scd0. Here'a my lilo.conf as it currently appears. boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt lba32 prompt nowarn timeout=150 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=failsafe devfs=nomount read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe and my fstab: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/cdrw supermount dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 I still do not understand why my CDRW is there once or twice then disappears. Yesterday I did a cold boot to make sure the CDRW was still there and it was!! Then I logged off and shut down my computer for the night. When I booted this morning my CDRW was inaccessible and has disappeared from my Mandrake control center hardware list. Can anybody tell me precisely why this keeps happening? And how I can prevent it in the future?!?! LTR }}:{( On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 15:31, John Drouhard wrote: Since your cd drives are working, I suggest you backup all your data, then upgrade to 9.1 doing a fresh install. Then everything will be fixed (Also, 9.1 automatically sets up SCSI emulation for detected burners). Hope you get it working! John Drouhard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
Hi John. When I logged on this morning after checking my email I checked the status of my CDRW drive. To my dismay I discovered that I no longer have a working CDRW, either as supermount or as SCSI. It no longer appears on my hardware list at all and is completely unavailable. You asked for my fstab and lilo files which I'm including below. My fstab currently (following reboot this AM) reads: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 My lilo.conf reads: boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt lba32 prompt nowarn timeout=150 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=failsafe devfs=nomount read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe I don't understand why my CDRW keeps disappearing!?! When I rebooted last night with the new fstab file the CDRW was recognized by the system and was usable by the xcdroast program. I did not intentionally change anything after that reboot and yet when I rebooted this AM my CDRW was gone?!?! LTR }}:{( On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 02:07, John Richard Smith wrote: Langsley T Russell wrote: BINGO John!! I once again have my CDRW in my hardware list. Once again it appears twice, once as hdb and once as scd1. I opened xcdroast and it too sees the Samsung CDRW drive. Now I must ask if I should leave both entries for the CDRW in my hardware list? I checked mount points and the CDRW is mounted as scd1. Is that as it should be? Thank you so much, John! I am forever in your debt. LTR }}:{( Langsley, If I understand you correcty you have a working writer, both supermounted and scsi-emulated. Can yopu kindly post both your relevent lilo.conf and fstab entries , for the device, so that we can see what does what. thanks, John
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
On 22 Jun 2003 11:41:04 -0500 Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John. When I logged on this morning after checking my email I checked the status of my CDRW drive. To my dismay I discovered that I no longer have a working CDRW, either as supermount or as SCSI. It no longer appears on my hardware list at all and is completely unavailable. You asked for my fstab and lilo files which I'm including below. My fstab currently (following reboot this AM) reads: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 May I ask what hardware list you are talking about? Is it harddrake? Or dmesg? I am beginning to think that you may need to reinstall linux. What version are you running? Try typing mount -a as root in a terminal. Then check /mnt/hdb when you have a cd in the drive. If it's empty or not accessible, then there is something wrong. Oh ya, what is your /dev/scd0? Do you have another scsi device that isn't a cd? If you do, change your fstab so that the dev=/dev/scd0 becomes /dev/scd1. John Drouhard -- Sun Jun 22 12:52:01 UTC 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Hi John, The hardware list I was referring to is the one in the Mandrake Control Center. I'm running 8.2. Part of the reason for wanting to get my CDRW working is so that I can backup many files before upgrading to 9.1. Mount -a at this point simply takes me back to a command line cursor. I have a very old 1X SCSI CD ROM drive, but not a CDRW). At this point it is listed in MCC hardware list as scd0. The mount point for it at this time is hdb. Opening /mnt/hdb reads from my stone-age 1X CD ROM drive! LTR }}:{( On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 07:54, John Drouhard wrote: May I ask what hardware list you are talking about? Is it harddrake? Or dmesg? I am beginning to think that you may need to reinstall linux. What version are you running? Try typing mount -a as root in a terminal. Then check /mnt/hdb when you have a cd in the drive. If it's empty or not accessible, then there is something wrong. Oh ya, what is your /dev/scd0? Do you have another scsi device that isn't a cd? If you do, change your fstab so that the dev=/dev/scd0 becomes /dev/scd1. John Drouhard
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On 22 Jun 2003 14:03:26 -0500 Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, The hardware list I was referring to is the one in the Mandrake Control Center. I'm running 8.2. Part of the reason for wanting to get my CDRW working is so that I can backup many files before upgrading to 9.1. Mount -a at this point simply takes me back to a command line cursor. I have a very old 1X SCSI CD ROM drive, but not a CDRW). At this point it is listed in MCC hardware list as scd0. The mount point for it at this time is hdb. Opening /mnt/hdb reads from my stone-age 1X CD ROM drive! Aha! make this your fstab: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/cdrw supermount dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 Save it, reboot, and then open /mnt/cdrw for your cdrw drive, and /mnt/cdrom will be your scsi drive. This will work. If it doesn't, then I don't know what the heck is going wrong. I seriously hope this helps. John Drouhard -- Sun Jun 22 15:16:21 UTC 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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OK John, I copied the new fstab file you provided to the etc directory. On boot up I now get two FAILED lines. The first one reads: Supermount error (device 0/12) supermount_read_sup er:no dev: file system option The second reads: Mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock or none, or too many mounted file systems However the two drives appear to be working as expected. My CD ROM drive now appears as device scd0 in the hardware list. Mount point: /mnt/cdrom Device: scd0 Type: auto Options: supermount,ro,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,mask=0 My CDRW drive once again appears on my mandrake command center twice, once as /dev/hdb and once as /dev/scd1. For mount point it says /mnt/cdrw. Device is scd1 Type auto Options supermount,ro,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,unmask=0 Again thanks for the unbelievable amount of assistance. Believe me it is truly appreciated!! LTR }}:{( ~~~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/ On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 10:21, John Drouhard wrote: Aha! make this your fstab: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/cdrw supermount dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 Save it, reboot, and then open /mnt/cdrw for your cdrw drive, and /mnt/cdrom will be your scsi drive. This will work. If it doesn't, then I don't know what the heck is going wrong. I seriously hope this helps. John Drouhard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On 22 Jun 2003 17:54:27 -0500 Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK John, I copied the new fstab file you provided to the etc directory. On boot up I now get two FAILED lines. The first one reads: Supermount error (device 0/12) supermount_read_sup er:no dev: file system option The second reads: Mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock or none, or too many mounted file systems However the two drives appear to be working as expected. My CD ROM drive now appears as device scd0 in the hardware list. Mount point: /mnt/cdrom Device: scd0 Type: auto Options: supermount,ro,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,mask=0 My CDRW drive once again appears on my mandrake command center twice, once as /dev/hdb and once as /dev/scd1. For mount point it says /mnt/cdrw. Device is scd1 Type auto Options supermount,ro,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,unmask=0 Again thanks for the unbelievable amount of assistance. Believe me it is truly appreciated!! Since your cd drives are working, I suggest you backup all your data, then upgrade to 9.1 doing a fresh install. Then everything will be fixed (Also, 9.1 automatically sets up SCSI emulation for detected burners). Hope you get it working! John Drouhard -- Sun Jun 22 20:27:56 UTC 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:30:13 +0100, John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Langsley T Russell wrote: OK John. I've done everything up to /then copy your new fstab file to /etc directory./ The only way I could find to change the name of the fstab file to fstab1 was to log on as root. When logged on as root none of my desktop files from my standard session are available. So there is nothing to copy. when I log back on as user I am denied permission to edit the etc file. If I can't manage to do that I guess I'll have to undo the name change to fstab/fstab1. how can I accomplish this crucial step? LTR }}:{( Can you copy to a floppy, Better still copy new fstab to one of those fat32/vfat partitions that you already have a line in your existing fstab, then logon as root, then you should be able to make the necessary change in /etc directory. All this ought to be done as root anyway. you are constructing system files for universal use, not some oddjob user task. I could get you into a root terminal but then you will have to issue root commands which is more difficult for the newbie. Can you logon as root to a root desktop ? John If you log in as root, open an editor and go to /home/user/Desktop to find your file? Or log in as a user, open a terminal, 'su' to root. Then get clever with 'cp' and 'mv', or run your editor from the terminal (so it runs as root) and make changes that way. Richard -- Registered Linux user 246658 at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Hi again John. I managed to do a copy and paste to my etc directory by copying the new fstab to my tmp directory as user and then copying and pasting it into my etc directory as root. What follows is what I got when I typed mount -a in a terminal as root. mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: No medium found mount: mount point 0 does not exist mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device mount: mount point 0 does not exist That means nothing to me but I'm hoping it will to you. I don't see anything there which appears to be my CDRW drive but then as I said , it means nothing, or I guess I should say very little, to me. My old SCSI CD ROM drive is listed in the hardware list as scd0 so I doubt that that is it. I also opened xcdroast and the CDRW does not appear there. LTR }}:{( On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 11:43, John Richard Smith wrote: Langsley T Russell wrote: Hi again John. I edited the fstab file as you suggested. The contents appears below. /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 OK, Langsley, I think it's time to start dropping supermount, maybe you have the same problem with supermount as me. S0 I would like you to copy this script , /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/scd0 /mnt/scd0 auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 into a fresh new text file on desktop , do this by moving the cursor over a blank spot on desktop, rightmouse click down to create new - text file, and name it fatab, then move the cursor over the icon of the new fstab textfile and roghtmouse click- down to open with text editor, and choose one, say kwrite , and then sweep the text I have given you here with the mouse cursor and move the cursor over the open fstab text file left mouse click to position, and then press middle mouse button, and all the copyied text will fill out onto the page, then save and exit. You then have a new fstab file . Go to /etc directory in konqueror window and rename the existing fstab file fstab1, then copy your new fstab file to /etc directory. in a terminal , type, mount -a and see if that gives you a writer test by putting up something like xcdroast and see if it appears in the device list. or type in terminal, cdrecord -scanbus, and see what it says, John
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Hi John. I tried typing eject /dev for /hda, /hdb, /hdc, and /hdd. None of the commands ever ejected or opened anything. this is the response I got to each of the commands. eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/hdb' These are the responses I got when I tried eject /dev/scd1 and /scd0 eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/scd1' [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ eject /dev/scd0 eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument LTR }}:{( ~~~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/ On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 16:12, John Drouhard wrote: I have a suggestion. Try typing eject /dev/hda. If it can't find eject, then install it with urpmi eject. Once it's installed, type eject /dev/hda, eject /dev/hdb, eject /dev/hdc, and eject /dev/hdd. All as separate commands. Then tell us which command opens your cdrw drive (and your regular cd drive if you have one). Then we can just give you a new fstab and lilo.conf file. Hope you get this working! John Drouhard
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On 21 Jun 2003 17:01:25 -0500 Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again John. I managed to do a copy and paste to my etc directory by copying the new fstab to my tmp directory as user and then copying and pasting it into my etc directory as root. What follows is what I got when I typed mount -a in a terminal as root. mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: No medium found mount: mount point 0 does not exist mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device mount: mount point 0 does not exist That means nothing to me but I'm hoping it will to you. I don't see anything there which appears to be my CDRW drive but then as I said , it means nothing, or I guess I should say very little, to me. My old SCSI CD ROM drive is listed in the hardware list as scd0 so I doubt that that is it. I also opened xcdroast and the CDRW does not appear there. Could you give us the output of this command: dmesg | grep hd Copy and paste this into a terminal. This will help us to help you configure your fstab properly. HTH, John Drouhard -- Sat Jun 21 17:35:21 UTC 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Here it is John. [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63, UDMA(100) LTR }}:{( ~~~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/ On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 12:36, John Drouhard wrote: Could you give us the output of this command: dmesg | grep hd Copy and paste this into a terminal. This will help us to help you configure your fstab properly. HTH, John Drouhard
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On 21 Jun 2003 18:03:13 -0500 Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here it is John. [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63, UDMA(100) It's not even recognizing your cdrw drive as being there. Make this your fstab: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 Change it to that, save it, then edit your lilo.conf so your append line DOES NOT have the scsi em thing. Then run lilo as root, and then reboot your computer. Once you've done all this, run dmesg | grep hd again. Then give us the results of that. We will then walk you through how to set up sci-em, once again, correctly. I imagine you've learned a lot about linux through this experience. :) John Drouhard -- Sat Jun 21 18:24:08 UTC 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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I sent this earlier but I haven't seen it show up on the list. If it comes through twice I apologize. OK, John, I believe I did everything as directed. Below is the new results of dmesg | grep hd [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive hdb: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-348B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63, UDMA(100) Yes, I've learned more about the Linux OS in the last few days than in all the months I've been running Linux. What's next?? Again thanks for all the help. I would hgiven up long ago without the help I've gotten here. LTR }}:{( ~~~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/ On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 13:28, John Drouhard wrote: On 21 Jun 2003 18:03:13 -0500 Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here it is John. [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63, UDMA(100) It's not even recognizing your cdrw drive as being there. Make this your fstab: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 Change it to that, save it, then edit your lilo.conf so your append line DOES NOT have the scsi em thing. Then run lilo as root, and then reboot your computer. Once you've done all this, run dmesg | grep hd again. Then give us the results of that. We will then walk you through how to set up sci-em, once again, correctly. I imagine you've learned a lot about linux through this experience. :) John Drouhard
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OK, John, I believe I did everything as directed. Below is the new results of dmesg | grep hd [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive hdb: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-348B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63, UDMA(100) Yes, I've learned more about the Linux OS in the last few days than in all the months I've been running Linux. What's next?? Again thanks for all the help. I would hgiven up long ago without the help I've gotten here. LTR }}:{( ~~~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/ On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 13:28, John Drouhard wrote: On 21 Jun 2003 18:03:13 -0500 Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here it is John. [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63, UDMA(100) It's not even recognizing your cdrw drive as being there. Make this your fstab: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 Change it to that, save it, then edit your lilo.conf so your append line DOES NOT have the scsi em thing. Then run lilo as root, and then reboot your computer. Once you've done all this, run dmesg | grep hd again. Then give us the results of that. We will then walk you through how to set up sci-em, once again, correctly. I imagine you've learned a lot about linux through this experience. :) John Drouhard
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On 21 Jun 2003 20:44:00 -0500 Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent this earlier but I haven't seen it show up on the list. If it comes through twice I apologize. OK, John, I believe I did everything as directed. Below is the new results of dmesg | grep hd t hdb=ide-scsi ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi Here's where it says that lilo set up scsi emulation properly. hdb: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-348B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive Here is where it says that hdb is in fact your cdrw drive /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 Now, make this your fstab, save it, and reboot. Afterwards, you should have scsi-em working like a charm!! I am anxious to see how this turns out, please let me know as soon as possible. :) John Drouhard -- Sat Jun 21 21:05:07 UTC 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
BINGO John!! I once again have my CDRW in my hardware list. Once again it appears twice, once as hdb and once as scd1. I opened xcdroast and it too sees the Samsung CDRW drive. Now I must ask if I should leave both entries for the CDRW in my hardware list? I checked mount points and the CDRW is mounted as scd1. Is that as it should be? Thank you so much, John! I am forever in your debt. LTR }}:{( On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 16:09, John Drouhard wrote: hdb=ide-scsi ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi Here's where it says that lilo set up scsi emulation properly. hdb: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-348B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive Here is where it says that hdb is in fact your cdrw drive /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 Now, make this your fstab, save it, and reboot. Afterwards, you should have scsi-em working like a charm!! I am anxious to see how this turns out, please let me know as soon as possible. :) John Drouhard
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Hi again John. I edited the fstab file as you suggested. The contents appears below. /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 I rebooted following the change and did not get the two FAILED lines. I then checked with MCC and there is no listing for my CDRW drive in the hardware list. I also checked my mount directory and CDRW appears there as does scd1 and hdb. My old SCSI, CD ROM drive is listed as scd0 . At this time the CDRW is still completely unavailable. LTR }}:{(
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Langsley T Russell wrote: Hi again John. I edited the fstab file as you suggested. The contents appears below. /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 OK, Langsley, I think it's time to start dropping supermount, maybe you have the same problem with supermount as me. S0 I would like you to copy this script , /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/scd0 /mnt/scd0 auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 into a fresh new text file on desktop , do this by moving the cursor over a blank spot on desktop, rightmouse click down to create new - text file, and name it fatab, then move the cursor over the icon of the new fstab textfile and roghtmouse click- down to open with text editor, and choose one, say kwrite , and then sweep the text I have given you here with the mouse cursor and move the cursor over the open fstab text file left mouse click to position, and then press middle mouse button, and all the copyied text will fill out onto the page, then save and exit. You then have a new fstab file . Go to /etc directory in konqueror window and rename the existing fstab file fstab1, then copy your new fstab file to /etc directory. in a terminal , type, mount -a and see if that gives you a writer test by putting up something like xcdroast and see if it appears in the device list. or type in terminal, cdrecord -scanbus, and see what it says, John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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OK John. I've done everything up to then copy your new fstab file to /etc directory. The only way I could find to change the name of the fstab file to fstab1 was to log on as root. When logged on as root none of my desktop files from my standard session are available. So there is nothing to copy. when I log back on as user I am denied permission to edit the etc file. If I can't manage to do that I guess I'll have to undo the name change to fstab/fstab1. how can I accomplish this crucial step? LTR }}:{( On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 11:43, John Richard Smith wrote: OK, Langsley, I think it's time to start dropping supermount, maybe you have the same problem with supermount as me. S0 I would like you to copy this script , /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/scd0 /mnt/scd0 auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 into a fresh new text file on desktop , do this by moving the cursor over a blank spot on desktop, rightmouse click down to create new - text file, and name it fatab, then move the cursor over the icon of the new fstab textfile and roghtmouse click- down to open with text editor, and choose one, say kwrite , and then sweep the text I have given you here with the mouse cursor and move the cursor over the open fstab text file left mouse click to position, and then press middle mouse button, and all the copyied text will fill out onto the page, then save and exit. You then have a new fstab file . Go to /etc directory in konqueror window and rename the existing fstab file fstab1, then copy your new fstab file to /etc directory. in a terminal , type, mount -a and see if that gives you a writer test by putting up something like xcdroast and see if it appears in the device list. or type in terminal, cdrecord -scanbus, and see what it says, John
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Langsley T Russell wrote: OK John. I've done everything up to /then copy your new fstab file to /etc directory./ The only way I could find to change the name of the fstab file to fstab1 was to log on as root. When logged on as root none of my desktop files from my standard session are available. So there is nothing to copy. when I log back on as user I am denied permission to edit the etc file. If I can't manage to do that I guess I'll have to undo the name change to fstab/fstab1. how can I accomplish this crucial step? LTR }}:{( On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 11:43, John Richard Smith wrote: /OK, Langsley, I think it's time to start dropping supermount, maybe you have the same problem with supermount as me. S0 I would like you to copy this script , /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/scd0 /mnt/scd0 auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 into a fresh new text file on desktop , do this by moving the cursor over a blank spot on desktop, rightmouse click down to create new - text file, and name it fatab, then move the cursor over the icon of the new fstab textfile and roghtmouse click- down to open with text editor, and choose one, say kwrite , and then sweep the text I have given you here with the mouse cursor and move the cursor over the open fstab text file left mouse click to position, and then press middle mouse button, and all the copyied text will fill out onto the page, then save and exit. You then have a new fstab file . Go to /etc directory in konqueror window and rename the existing fstab file fstab1, then copy your new fstab file to /etc directory. in a terminal , type, mount -a and see if that gives you a writer test by putting up something like xcdroast and see if it appears in the device list. or type in terminal, cdrecord -scanbus, and see what it says, John/ Can you copy to a floppy, Better still copy new fstab to one of those fat32/vfat partitions that you already have a line in your existing fstab, then logon as root, then you should be able to make the necessary change in /etc directory. All this ought to be done as root anyway. you are constructing system files for universal use, not some oddjob user task. I could get you into a root terminal but then you will have to issue root commands which is more difficult for the newbie. Can you logon as root to a root desktop ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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I have a suggestion. Try typing eject /dev/hda. If it can't find eject, then install it with urpmi eject. Once it's installed, type eject /dev/hda, eject /dev/hdb, eject /dev/hdc, and eject /dev/hdd. All as separate commands. Then tell us which command opens your cdrw drive (and your regular cd drive if you have one). Then we can just give you a new fstab and lilo.conf file. Hope you get this working! John Drouhard On 18 Jun 2003 10:54:10 -0500 Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to a great deal of help from people here, primarily the two Johns, Yesterday I actually managed to burn two CDs using Xxcdroast. Today when I logged on I got two failure lines in my mandrake boot info. They were both for scd1. They both said FAILED scd1 does not exist. I checked in MCC to see if the CDRW drive is still listed and it is not. When I logged off yesterday it was there twice, once as hdb and once as scd1. At this point I'm unable to access the drive at all. So I've actually taken a step backward. When I started the device at least appeared in the hardware list as a CD ROM and I could use it as a reader. Below are the contents of my /ect/lilo.conf and fstab files. Do they give a clue as to what the problem is? boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt lba32 prompt nowarn timeout=150 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=failsafe devfs=nomount read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe fstab currently reads: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /mnt/hdb /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,user 0 0 /mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0 /dev/scd1 /mnt/scd1 auto user 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 Again thanks for all the help with this. LTR }}:{( -- Fri Jun 20 21:10:22 UTC 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
Langsley T Russell wrote: Below are the contents of my /ect/lilo.conf and fstab files. Do they give a clue as to what the problem is? boot=/dev/hda say's that the lilo boot device lies in your MBR map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt lba32 prompt nowarn timeout=150 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi I doubt whether hdb=ide-scsi is correct. hda = your first hard drive, hdb = your second hard drive if you have one, but is reserved for such, hdc = your cdrom or dvd , if configured master hdd = your writer if configured slave (determined by jumpers on the back of your dives) so assuming your cdrom is master and writer is slave, I would guess that your writer is hdd, therefore the correct entry in the append line is hdd=ide-scsi. If your writer is configured master then the correct line is hdc=ide-scsi. Get this correct and your home and dry. read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=failsafe devfs=nomount add the hdd-ide-scsi to this append line as well. read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda your windblows boot script, other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe In case you ever need to tell it where the boot floppy is. fstab currently reads: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 where your mandrake OS is none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 I've never known what this does, someone please explain none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 nor this /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 home partition /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 this is supermount on your floppy drive, fine if it works. /mnt/hdb /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,user 0 0 /mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount well it's trying to supermount a scsi-em hdb, as explained I think this should be /mnt/hdd and /dev/=/dev/hdd if you want supermounted scsi-em drive. dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0 I don't know what this is and it's wrong anyway. I would remove it. /dev/scd1 /mnt/scd1 auto user 0 0 Again I don't know what this is so I would remove it. /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 Your windblows OS /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 Looks like a Fat32 partition none /proc proc defaults 0 0 This is always there but I don't know exactly what it does /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 swap partition. I think all your've got to do is remove the nonsense lines, and amend the hdb to something like hdd, and make sure they are identicle in both fstab and lilo.conf and it will likely work in supermount, if not, then like me and my machine it will have to be automount, in which case the fstab entries will have to be changed. Supermount is flakey on some machines. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
Quick check does scd1 and scd0 exist in /dev /mnt? Did you manually change your fstab, as it looks kinda bad as it has scd0 and scd1 as well as hdb being mounted which I assume are all the same device. lilo looks okay to me though. Tony. -Original Message- From: Langsley T Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:54 PM To: MDK-LIST Subject: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again Thanks to a great deal of help from people here, primarily the two Johns, Yesterday I actually managed to burn two CDs using Xxcdroast. Today when I logged on I got two failure lines in my mandrake boot info. They were both for scd1. They both said FAILED scd1 does not exist. I checked in MCC to see if the CDRW drive is still listed and it is not. When I logged off yesterday it was there twice, once as hdb and once as scd1. At this point I'm unable to access the drive at all. So I've actually taken a step backward. When I started the device at least appeared in the hardware list as a CD ROM and I could use it as a reader. Below are the contents of my /ect/lilo.conf and fstab files. Do they give a clue as to what the problem is? boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt lba32 prompt nowarn timeout=150 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=failsafe devfs=nomount read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe fstab currently reads: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /mnt/hdb /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,user 0 0 /mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0 /dev/scd1 /mnt/scd1 auto user 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 Again thanks for all the help with this. LTR }}:{( -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Hi John and Tony. I do indeed have my CDRW mounted as hdb. I did this only because I didn't have a spare cable lying around and did have the unused connector on my HD cable. Therefore I believe that the hdb ID is accurate if not correct. I actually had the CDRW working again yesterday but when I rebooted this morning, I once got the failed does not exist at boot up and the CDRW drive has once again disappeared from my hardware list in MCC. John you said: read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=failsafe devfs=nomount add the hdd-ide-scsi to this append line as well. Does that go within the quotes? And will that solve my problem or must I go out and get an additional cable and make my CDRW either hdc or hdd in order to get this working properly? Tony, you asked if I had modified my fstab file myself. No I did not. To the best of my knowledge the scd0 is my actual SCSI CD ROM drive. hdb and scd1 are however both referring to my new CDRW drive. Do I need to alter this? if so, what should it say? and yes both scd1 and scd0 exist in /dev /mnt? Again thanks for all your help. LTR }}:{( ~~~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
Langsley T Russell wrote: Hi John and Tony. I do indeed have my CDRW mounted as hdb. I did this only because I didn't have a spare cable lying around and did have the unused connector on my HD cable. Therefore I believe that the hdb ID is accurate if not correct. I see, that's fair enough, if just a litle unconventional. I actually had the CDRW working again yesterday but when I rebooted this morning, I once got the failed does not exist at boot up and the CDRW drive has once again disappeared from my hardware list in MCC. John you said: read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=failsafe devfs=nomount add the hdd-ide-scsi to this append line as well. Does that go within the quotes? like this, append=failsafe devfs=nomount hdb=ide-scsi note the spacings And will that solve my problem or must I go out and get an additional cable and make my CDRW either hdc or hdd in order to get this working properly? Don't think so, though I've never actually done it your way. is the harddrive set at master , and the writer set as slave ? becuse if they are both set as master , oops it will not like that. One has to be master make that the hard drive, one slave. If that does not work buy a new cable, they don't cost that much. Tony, you asked if I had modified my fstab file myself. No I did not. To the best of my knowledge the scd0 is my actual SCSI CD ROM drive. hdb and scd1 are however both referring to my new CDRW drive. Do I need to alter this? if so, what should it say? and yes both scd1 and scd0 exist in /dev /mnt? I didn't think it was your work. In my experience it loked like the installers work.I've had some wonderful entries myself recently. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
On Wednesday 18 Jun 2003 4:54 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote: Below are the contents of my /ect/lilo.conf and fstab files. Do they give a clue as to what the problem is? boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt lba32 prompt nowarn timeout=150 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=failsafe devfs=nomount read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe This looks absolutely normal to me. fstab currently reads: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /mnt/hdb /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,user 0 0 This is mounting your cd-rw without scsi-em /mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0 Your genuine scsi drive /dev/scd1 /mnt/scd1 auto user 0 0 And here is your cd-rw again! /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 It seems to me that this is what's causing the confusion. I would get rid of the line that refers to hdb. The /mnt/scd1 line should work then, though you may want to make it more like the scd0 line. HTH Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
Hi again John. I made the additional change you suggested to my lilo,conf file it now reads, image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=failsafe devfs=nomount hdb=ide-scsi read-only But still no CDRW drive. When I rebooted just now, I got the same FAILED special device /dev/scd1 does not exist again. I checked /dev to see if there is a scd1 there and there is not. Nor is there an hdb. I'm as certain as I can be that I have the jumpers set correctly. I did change the jumpers on the CDRW to slave when I installed it. Also I was able to access the CDRW drive and even burn a couple of CDs before logging off. yesterday. Now the drive doesn't appear on my hardware list. Perhaps a separate cable is the only answer?? LTR }}:{( ~~~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
Hi Anne. I did as you recommended and removed the hdb line from my fstab file. I didn't alter the scd1 line because I don't know what I'm doing so I have no idea just how it should be edited. BTW both /hdb and /scd1 appear as subdirectories of my mnt directory but neither appears in my dev directory. Does this offer any insight?? LTR }}:{( ~~~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/ On Thu, 2003-06-19 at 13:36, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 18 Jun 2003 4:54 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote: Below are the contents of my /ect/lilo.conf and fstab files. Do they give a clue as to what the problem is? boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt lba32 prompt nowarn timeout=150 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=failsafe devfs=nomount read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe This looks absolutely normal to me. fstab currently reads: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /mnt/hdb /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,user 0 0 This is mounting your cd-rw without scsi-em /mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0 Your genuine scsi drive /dev/scd1 /mnt/scd1 auto user 0 0 And here is your cd-rw again! /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 It seems to me that this is what's causing the confusion. I would get rid of the line that refers to hdb. The /mnt/scd1 line should work then, though you may want to make it more like the scd0 line. HTH Anne __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
On Thursday 19 Jun 2003 9:21 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote: Hi Anne. I did as you recommended and removed the hdb line from my fstab file. I didn't alter the scd1 line because I don't know what I'm doing so I have no idea just how it should be edited. BTW both /hdb and /scd1 appear as subdirectories of my mnt directory but neither appears in my dev directory. In mine, under /dev/cdroms I have cdrom0 and cdrom1, both of which are links. cdrom0, for instance points to ../ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/cd. It is my cd/dvd, which is not scsi-emulated, so is mounted as /mnt/cdrom from hdb in fstab (unusual, but that's another story). cdrom1 points to ../scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/cd. This is my cd-rw, which is scsi-emulated. I would expect your actual scsi drive to be scd0, and the cd-rw to be scd1. Does that explain it any better? My fstab lines are none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 none /mnt/cdrw supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 hdb and scd0 are block devices under /dev, not subdirectories. HTH Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
Langsley T Russell wrote: Hi again John. I made the additional change you suggested to my lilo,conf file it now reads, image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=failsafe devfs=nomount hdb=ide-scsi read-only Yep those are correct. But still no CDRW drive. When I rebooted just now, I got the same FAILED special device /dev/scd1 does not exist again. I checked /dev to see if there is a scd1 there and there is not. Nor is there an hdb. It has to be that line in your fstab about the scd1 which of course you don't have. your first scsi-emulated device is always scd0, I'm as certain as I can be that I have the jumpers set correctly. I did change the jumpers on the CDRW to slave when I installed it. Also I was able to access the CDRW drive and even burn a couple of CDs before logging off. yesterday. I'm not sure about this, cann't see why one cannot have a harddrive and a writer on the same ide line, just so long as they are either cable select of set master and slave, and as you say it has worked once. If removing the scd1 line from fstab doesn't make it work then, like me , I think I would try automount first before rushing out to buy another ide cable. It is quite easy to auto mount , you just # out the supermount line, and then write the automount line, which I have given you but I can easily do that again for you. Now the drive doesn't appear on my hardware list. Perhaps a separate cable is the only answer?? this is suggesting to me that something is confusing the system as to what is what. OK post your fstab again here and let me see how it now is after you have removed that bit about scd1. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] SCSI Em- Again
Thanks to a great deal of help from people here, primarily the two Johns, Yesterday I actually managed to burn two CDs using Xxcdroast. Today when I logged on I got two failure lines in my mandrake boot info. They were both for scd1. They both said FAILED scd1 does not exist. I checked in MCC to see if the CDRW drive is still listed and it is not. When I logged off yesterday it was there twice, once as hdb and once as scd1. At this point I'm unable to access the drive at all. So I've actually taken a step backward. When I started the device at least appeared in the hardware list as a CD ROM and I could use it as a reader. Below are the contents of my /ect/lilo.conf and fstab files. Do they give a clue as to what the problem is? boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt lba32 prompt nowarn timeout=150 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=failsafe devfs=nomount read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe fstab currently reads: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /mnt/hdb /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,user 0 0 /mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0 /dev/scd1 /mnt/scd1 auto user 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 Again thanks for all the help with this. LTR }}:{( Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Emulation ??
Langsley T Russell wrote: A couple of weeks ago I installed a new CDRW drive on my LM 8.2 machine with the intention of backing up many home directory files in preparation for installing 9.1. Since that time I've been trying to set up ide-scsi emulation with no success. Two things, add to the append line in/etc/lilo.conf like this append= hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi then run in terminal. /sbin/lilo to check new lilo script is OK this will scsi-em's both dvd and writer. change in /etc/fstab like this /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom2 auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 this enables the new scsi-em'd devices to be mounted. in terminal , mount -a right mouse click on desktop, create new cdrom device, name it, then rightmouse click the icon newly created to properties, and point the device at the appropriet /dev/scd0, or /dev/scd1 All should work, John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Emulation ??
On 09 Jun 2003 16:48:20 -0500 Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: A couple of weeks ago I installed a new CDRW drive on my LM 8.2 machine with the intention of backing up many home directory files in preparation for installing 9.1. Since that time I've been trying to set up ide-scsi emulation with no success. The most detailed information I could find on accomplishing this came from, try using GCombust. In my experience, I have never had to do anything but click on detect scsi drive and then check scsi settings, or vice versa, can't remember now. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 18:05:04 up 6 days, 16:08, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Emulation ??
On 09 Jun 2003 16:48:20 -0500 Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of weeks ago I installed a new CDRW drive on my LM 8.2 machine with the intention of backing up many home directory files in preparation for installing 9.1. Since that time I've been trying to set up ide-scsi emulation with no success. The most detailed information I could find on accomplishing this came from, http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-cdburn.html?ca=dgr-lnxw2oBurnCDs Instructions there said, You'll need to edit two text files to configure the system to use the ide-scsi driver. The first is /etc/modules.conf (in Debian, /etc/modules). My system has a CD-ROM and CD-R/RW drive, hdb and hdc. Add these lines to /etc/modules.conf (or /etc/modules) using values appropriate for your system: ide-cd ignore=\hdb hdc\ ide-scsi However when I attempt to open /etc/modules.conf from a terminal as SU, I get the message Permission denied. If I can't access this file as root, what must I do? as root, try chmod a-rwx /etc/modules.conf, and then chmod +rw /etc/modules.conf That should allow you to modify it as root. And to get scsi emulation, find which cd you want to be emulated (ie hdb or hdc), then edit lilo.conf to say something like this: image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hdc5 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=quiet devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off -- add [CD ROM]=ide-scsi vga=794 read-only Then, edit /etc/fstab and make it look like this (only the cdrom lines, there are many more lines): none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,unhide,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 You need to change dev=/dev/[CD ROM] to dev=/dev/scd0. HTH, John Drouhard -- Mon Jun 9 21:30:04 UTC 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] scsi emulation
How can I change the cd-rom so that it works with scsi emulation together with the cd-writer ? The line is lilo.conf is as follows: append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi quiet The cd-rom is hdd. It seems stupid, but the fact is that I don't have the faintest idea how to add it. Would it be with an ? :-) Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] scsi emulation
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 05:53 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote: How can I change the cd-rom so that it works with scsi emulation together with the cd-writer ? The line is lilo.conf is as follows: append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi quiet The cd-rom is hdd. It seems stupid, but the fact is that I don't have the faintest idea how to add it. Would it be with an ? :-) Thanks. It should be: append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi quiet That should do it. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] scsi emulation
You don't need add scsi emulation for the cd-rom; go to the xcdroast page and download the last rpms (alpha-13) for xcdroast and also cdrecord and so on; now xcdroast recognized also ide-atapi drives and you can use them as lector drive (to read a cd, copy on the fly..). I have this runing under Mandrake 9.0 pretty well. Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) El Mié 15 Ene 2003 23:53, Josenildo Marques escribió: How can I change the cd-rom so that it works with scsi emulation together with the cd-writer ? The line is lilo.conf is as follows: append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi quiet The cd-rom is hdd. It seems stupid, but the fact is that I don't have the faintest idea how to add it. Would it be with an ? :-) Thanks. -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia Campus de Espinardo E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] scsi emulation
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 10:53 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote: How can I change the CD-ROM so that it works with SCSI emulation together with the CD-writer ? The line is lilo.conf is as follows: append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi quiet The CD-ROM is hdd. It seems stupid, but the fact is that I don't have the faintest idea how to add it. Would it be with an ? :-) Thanks. Just swap the hdc=ide-scsi with hdd=scsi in the append line, and THEN (as root) run the command *lilo*. Or, in case you have two CD-drives ( for example a CD-reader and a CD-writer ) change it to : append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi quiet which is what I have. Works fine in all respects. And - after editing *lilo.conf* - THEN (as root) run *lilo*. You can confirm the changes by watching the output from lilo, and then (as root) run *cdrecord --scanbus*. HTH Kaj Haulrich Denmark. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] SCSI module error installing 8.2
I cannot seem to install 8.2 on an older PC (Pentium-MMX, so I needed the patch for the packages problem) with or without its SCSI card. Early on --- just after I choose Expert mode for the package selection --- I see a message that it is installing scsi|disk card, modules imm and ppa. All goes well until I go to test the X setup and the machine puts up the messages: /tmp/imm.o: init_module: No such device /tmp/ppa.o: init_module: No such device and hangs. I am stuck. I tried removing the SCSI card, but the same error occurs. Anybody got some idea what I can try now? andy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI pci Card Scanner.
Mike, Yes it worked! I used insmod -f with the path to the driver and all goes well. Thank you very much Mike McNeese. I am most grateful to you and your ability with Linux. Regards, Malcolm Candlish. On Wed, 15 May 2002 02:10:47 -0500 mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Malcolm Candlish wrote: Sirs, Having configured Mandrake 8.2 all went like a dream; except for my scanner a Trust connect 19200. Clearly the scsi pci card could not be found so I insmod the driver dmx3191d.o and it works, but I have to insmod as root each time I boot up. Is it possible to add that action to the boot system? Malcolm Candlish. Hi , I had the same problem with my umax scanner in 8.0. the way I fixed the problem is to insert the following line into /etc/rc.local: /sbin/insmod aic7xxx everytime the system boots , if the scanner is on it loads the driver. scanner has to be on at start up under this setup. maybe a better way but this is the only way it would work for me. Mike McNeese Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI dialog box problem Linux-Mandrake 7.2
At 12:49 PM 03/19/2002 -0500, you wrote: Joel G. Viney wrote: I'm installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 from CD. I get to the Setup Filesystems section. A dialog box pops up asking Do you have any SCSI Interface? I do not so I click No. The dialog box keeps popping up and I can't get past it. I'm installing it on a P-II 233mhz machine w/ 295MB of RAM. Just a shot in the dark: IIRC, there is an option to View Hardware -- have you tried that -- maybe there is a SCSI device, or something that Mandrake thinks is a SCSI. (IIUC, some of the very early CD-Roms that used proprietary interfaces were actually SCSI or a variety thereof. Randy Kramer Hi Randy, The CD ROM is Creative Labs 4X CD ROM. It came out in 95/96 so it would have been at the beginning of the PnP era. I'll check it out. Thanks, Joel - Qualcomm, Eudora Mail Pro 5.1 - Joel Viney[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 5512737 AIM: LdEaldred Federal Way, WA Hans 1957 VW Karmann Ghia Wolfgang 1971 VW Westfalia Camper Der Krieglastwagen Goro1995 Nissan Pickup http://home.earthlink.net/~aldredmac/ The voice of God, if you really want to know, is Aretha Franklin. - Marianne Faithful ___ Want cheap long distance calling? Try 10 - 10 - Pi The more digits you dial, the greater the savings!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI dialog box problem Linux-Mandrake 7.2
At 10:22 AM 03/19/2002 -0800, you wrote: At 12:49 PM 03/19/2002 -0500, you wrote: Joel G. Viney wrote: I'm installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 from CD. I get to the Setup Filesystems section. A dialog box pops up asking Do you have any SCSI Interface? I do not so I click No. The dialog box keeps popping up and I can't get past it. I'm installing it on a P-II 233mhz machine w/ 295MB of RAM. Just a shot in the dark: IIRC, there is an option to View Hardware -- have you tried that -- maybe there is a SCSI device, or something that Mandrake thinks is a SCSI. (IIUC, some of the very early CD-Roms that used proprietary interfaces were actually SCSI or a variety thereof. Randy Kramer Hi Randy, The CD ROM is Creative Labs 4X CD ROM. It came out in 95/96 so it would have been at the beginning of the PnP era. I'll check it out. Well, I can't find a View Hardware option for the installation. I can choose F1 for Expert/Text/Normal installations and that is it. It seems like the install program is caught in a loop. Joel - Qualcomm, Eudora Mail Pro 5.1 - Joel Viney[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 5512737 AIM: LdEaldred Federal Way, WA Hans 1957 VW Karmann Ghia Wolfgang 1971 VW Westfalia Camper Der Krieglastwagen Goro1995 Nissan Pickup http://home.earthlink.net/~aldredmac/ The voice of God, if you really want to know, is Aretha Franklin. - Marianne Faithful ___ Want cheap long distance calling? Try 10 - 10 - Pi The more digits you dial, the greater the savings!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI dialog box problem Linux-Mandrake 7.2
Joel G. Viney wrote: I'm installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 from CD. I get to the Setup Filesystems section. A dialog box pops up asking Do you have any SCSI Interface? I do not so I click No. The dialog box keeps popping up and I can't get past it. I'm installing it on a P-II 233mhz machine w/ 295MB of RAM. Just a shot in the dark: IIRC, there is an option to View Hardware -- have you tried that -- maybe there is a SCSI device, or something that Mandrake thinks is a SCSI. (IIUC, some of the very early CD-Roms that used proprietary interfaces were actually SCSI or a variety thereof. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] SCSI dialog box problem Linux-Mandrake 7.2
Hi There, I'm installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 from CD. I get to the Setup Filesystems section. A dialog box pops up asking Do you have any SCSI Interface? I do not so I click No. The dialog box keeps popping up and I can't get past it. I'm installing it on a P-II 233mhz machine w/ 295MB of RAM. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Joel - Qualcomm, Eudora Mail Pro 5.1 - Joel Viney[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 5512737 AIM: LdEaldred Federal Way, WA Hans 1957 VW Karmann Ghia Wolfgang 1971 VW Westfalia Camper Der Krieglastwagen Goro1995 Nissan Pickup http://home.earthlink.net/~aldredmac/ The voice of God, if you really want to know, is Aretha Franklin. - Marianne Faithful ___ Want cheap long distance calling? Try 10 - 10 - Pi The more digits you dial, the greater the savings!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] scsi drive install
okay i installed a scsi card into my mandrake 8.1 box and it detected the new card no dramas but how i do i get it to show the new hdd i attached to said card? i had a nose around with hard drake but it didnt show there and i cant seem to find diskdrake..im sure i installed it but it doesnt run at the console with the word diskdrake, and now for some reason after my last format and reinstall rpmdrake will no longer accept a new source being added (i upgraded it after the reinstall to version 1.4-14 with no-deps option as it kept gave me a dep error of urpmi =3.1-4mdk was needed.. ) what do i need to do to be able to use this scsi drive as i plan to use it with vmware to hava win2k virtual machine for my comp sci course i just started at uni... thanks mikecola ...Who's the big winner tonight...? Mikey! Mikey wins! Mikey's the big winner...!- Trent Double Down (Vince Vaughn) -- www.pherell.com TECHNO melbourne style. heard it yet? mike thinks you should Your Lowrider Community... http://www.lowrider.com Your Personalized Page Start Page... http://my.lowrider.com - Express yourself with a super cool email address from BigMailBox.com. Hundreds of choices. It's free! http://www.bigmailbox.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Emulatio
To both Dan and Joan: Thanks! That did the trick :-) On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Joan Tur wrote: Es Tue 05 Feb 2002 06:28, en Roger Sherman va escriure: Pardon my asking this question, which I know has been answered a bunch of times, but I have tried unsuccessfully to find it in the archives - what is the line I put in lilo.conf to make the system think my IDE CD-RW is SCSI? And where? Thanks! The following lines are from /etc/lilo.conf: image=/boot/vmlinuz label=8.2b1 root=/dev/hdg7 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append= mem=nopentium devfs=mount quiet hda=ide-scsi vga=788 read-only hdx=ide-scsi is what you have to modify. Where x is your ide device: a=master in primary ide controller b=secondary on primary ide controller c=master in secondary ide controller d=master in secondary ide controller. After having changed that you have to run lilo and, if you don't see any error messages, it'll be done! ;) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Emulatio
Edit your configuration file. If you use LILO, edit /etc/lilo.conf so that under your present boot section you have append = hd?=ide-scsi (where the question mark is replaced with the drive designation of the CD-R or CD-RW drive, for example for the common arrangement where it's the secondary master ide device you would have hdc=ide-scsi). If there's already an append line there, just add this to it. Save the lilo.conf you just edited and then type: /sbin/lilo (on a root command line). At 12:28 AM 2/5/2002 -0500, you wrote: Pardon my asking this question, which I know has been answered a bunch of times, but I have tried unsuccessfully to find it in the archives - what is the line I put in lilo.conf to make the system think my IDE CD-RW is SCSI? And where? Thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com o o o o o o o o [EMAIL PROTECTED] o _ o _| | .][__n_n_|DD[ _ | | (|__|_[_]_|___| _/oo O oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Emulation of CD-ROM
On Monday 17 December 2001 15:56, Ira Bargon III wrote: | Hello, | | I have just installed Linux Mandrake 8.1. I am running it on a system | with and ide atapi cdrom (Kenwood 52X True-X) and a ide atapi cd-rw | (Creative 6424). When i installed mandrake it set up my cdrw for scsi | emulation but it kept my cdrom as ide. Everything works fine, but i cant | use X-cdroast to do a direct copy of a cd because, my cd-rom isn't set | up with scsi-emulation and the program only knows of scsi devices. Does | anyone know of a way i can setup my cdrom for scsi emulation and is | their a way without recompiling my kernel. Maybe a script of something. Edit /etc/lilo.conf. You will see that there is already an entry for your cdrw like: append= hdX=ide-scsi # where X is the cdrw drive letter now add the same for your cdrom drive like: append= hdX=ide-scsi hdY=ide-scsi # where Y is the cdrom drive letter Once you have saved your changes, in a terminal run lilo (as root): # /sbin/lilo Now edit your /etc/fstab file - this depends on what your fstab looks like. For example mine looks like this: /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=iso9660,exec,--,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /mnt/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd1,fs=iso9660,exec,--,nosuid,nodev 0 0 Where /dev/scd0 is my cdrw and /dev/scd1 is my cdrom. Note that I am using a newer kernel than the stock 2.4.8-26mdk that comes with ML8.1 so I am using supermount - yours may be different as supermount is broken in the 2.4.8-26mdk kernel. The important bit is the /dev/scdX part. And lastly (I'm not sure if this is absolutely necessary) reboot - I'm not sure if just remounting the cdrom will do it so I just reboot. HTH skinky -- But what ... is it good for? (Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] SCSI Emulation of CD-ROM
Hello, I have just installed Linux Mandrake 8.1. I am running it on a system with and ide atapi cdrom (Kenwood 52X True-X) and a ide atapi cd-rw (Creative 6424). When i installed mandrake it set up my cdrw for scsi emulation but it kept my cdrom as ide. Everything works fine, but i cant use X-cdroast to do a direct copy of a cd because, my cd-rom isn't set up with scsi-emulation and the program only knows of scsi devices. Does anyone know of a way i can setup my cdrom for scsi emulation and is their a way without recompiling my kernel. Maybe a script of something. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ira Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI drives won't access for install
is ur scsi detected during boot process? it sould be one of the first things ihe installer looks for after keyboard and mouse if i can remember correctly. i know mandrake 8.0 i386 had issues with installing from a scsi cdrom. it might be one thing to investigate in the list archives.. hope it works for u, good luck On Friday 16 November 2001 12:40 am, you wrote: Just burned a CD of the Mandrake 8.0 PPC .iso to put on a 300mhz Powermac 8600 at work. I used the BootX app, extension and kernels from the CD's miscellaneous folder. The install routine begins nicely, but when it asks where the install files are, it says it cannot find a CDROM and then gives me a whole long list (of ... drivers?) to try to use, with a subsequent window asking for parameters (I put /dev/cdrom there). I've tried the obvious entries from the list, like anything containing mac, mace or hfs but none works. Then I copied the CD onto an HFS drive. I tried to install off the drive and the installer said it couldn't find the hard drive, again giving me a long list of things to try. I did put /dev/sda5 in that parameter, the location of the HFS partition where the CD was copied. I have also checked force Scsi in BootX. Is there a way to proceed? -ms Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] SCSI drives won't access for install
Just burned a CD of the Mandrake 8.0 PPC .iso to put on a 300mhz Powermac 8600 at work. I used the BootX app, extension and kernels from the CD's miscellaneous folder. The install routine begins nicely, but when it asks where the install files are, it says it cannot find a CDROM and then gives me a whole long list (of ... drivers?) to try to use, with a subsequent window asking for parameters (I put /dev/cdrom there). I've tried the obvious entries from the list, like anything containing mac, mace or hfs but none works. Then I copied the CD onto an HFS drive. I tried to install off the drive and the installer said it couldn't find the hard drive, again giving me a long list of things to try. I did put /dev/sda5 in that parameter, the location of the HFS partition where the CD was copied. I have also checked force Scsi in BootX. Is there a way to proceed? -ms -- Many have Montana envy ... the lucky get to live here! Marc Stergionis -- Community Relations website author Benefis Healthcare http://www.benefis.org Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] SCSI CD-R (was Re: [newbie] Sound card oddity)
- -Looks like thats what I got too... ;-) - - take a look at this and see if it look familiar:) [carl@starfury carl]$ su Password: [root@starfury carl]# cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. [root@starfury carl]# What did you tell me you did??? -- 'Tis some script kidd3z, I muttered, tapping at my server port- Only this, and nothing more. - Edgar root Poe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] SCSI CD-ROM not recognised at setup...
SCSI CD-ROM not recognised at setup...so I borrowed an IDE CD from another machine. Mandrake 8 set itself up perfectly, even finding and mounting the SCSI CD (which neither RedHat or Mandrake could find in the setup routine). So far so good. I put the IDE CD back in to its machine, and run Mandrake. No problem until I try to install a printer. Then it says please insert the setup device... /mnt/cdrom is there even though the CD is no longer in the machine. I commented out the /mnt/cdrom line in fstab and rejigged the /mnt/cdrom2 line so that the machine finds the CD ROM. The line in fstab that I edited started as: /mnt/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom2 supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom2 0 0 and I changed it to /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom2 0 0 and /mnt/cdrom now finds the SCSI CD-ROM. IS this right? I still have problems though when in X with installing rpms. Someone told me I should recompile the kernel, but I cannot find the source and would need a good HOW-TO for that. Finally, I am trying to run the whole thing without a monitor, hence I am doing everything with telnet to the shell. So please bear that in mind if you are kind enough to help. Thanks Thomas Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!
Re: [newbie] SCSI emulation
On a related note, I just replaced my mobo and dvdrom drive and linux booted fine and kudzu configured the new chipset. yaaay!!! In addition, the new drive is a dvd/cdrw combo deal, and it is correctly identified in kde systems control and harddrake. again yaayyy. However, the scsi emulation did not automagically get configured. Where is an uptodate site I can look to get this set up? TIA, -s On Sunday 10 June 2001 03:21 pm, you wrote: On Sunday 10 June 2001 06:37, Roberto Herrero wrote: SCSI emulation doesn't work in my Macmillan LM 7.2 distribution because the module sr_mod.o is missing. As a consequence, my CD-burner is not operative. Sorry but that analysis is incorrect. sr_mod.o is not needed. Access it through /dev/scd0. There could be several other reasons your CD-R is not working in 7.2. I would have to see setup information for your specific machine but if it is not an LG and it is not sharing an IDE channel with a DVD or a CDROM, it will work, almost always. In those cases mentioned, an installation of kernel 2.2.19 is required and still some LGs don't work. Civileme Please can anybody tell me if that module is loaded by LM 8.0, or it is still missing in that version? Check out in /lib/modules/(mandrake_kernel_version)/scsi FWIW, it is there, but at file:/lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi. And it still is not needed. Thank you very much, Roberto Herrero
Re: [newbie] SCSI emulation
Probably the easiest way to do this is to run through the Mandrake installation again. Pop your CD in, reboot, and choose an upgrade install (expert mode). When it comes to selecting packages, unselect everything and continue. By the end, your CD-RW should be configured as a SCSI device. On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:18, s wrote: On a related note, I just replaced my mobo and dvdrom drive and linux booted fine and kudzu configured the new chipset. yaaay!!! In addition, the new drive is a dvd/cdrw combo deal, and it is correctly identified in kde systems control and harddrake. again yaayyy. However, the scsi emulation did not automagically get configured. Where is an uptodate site I can look to get this set up? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] SCSI emulation
On Tuesday 12 June 2001 01:18, s wrote: On a related note, I just replaced my mobo and dvdrom drive and linux booted fine and kudzu configured the new chipset. yaaay!!! In addition, the new drive is a dvd/cdrw combo deal, and it is correctly identified in kde systems control and harddrake. again yaayyy. However, the scsi emulation did not automagically get configured. Where is an uptodate site I can look to get this set up? TIA, -s SCSI Emulation is in two parts--first a message to the kernel to tell it to assume emulation is done Second is a modprobe of scsi and a link to the appropriate SCSI device The first part is simple in /etc/lilo.conf or in drakboot (Control Center Boot Config) make sure you have this in the append hdc=ide-scsi if for example it is hdc. Now in /dev you need to do the following cd /dev rm cdrom2 ln -s scd0 cdrom2 if, for example, the /etc/fstab entry uses /dev/cdrom2 for your CDRW. Finally somewhere you need a modprobe ide-scsi It can be dropped int the next to last line of /etc/rc.local (an extra one won't hurt if your system is already doing one) It is a little known fact that ordinaty plain vanilla CDROMs can also be scsi-emulated in the same manner. Our tests over the past 5 months show this works just as well as the dual structure we now support. Civileme On Sunday 10 June 2001 03:21 pm, you wrote: On Sunday 10 June 2001 06:37, Roberto Herrero wrote: SCSI emulation doesn't work in my Macmillan LM 7.2 distribution because the module sr_mod.o is missing. As a consequence, my CD-burner is not operative. Sorry but that analysis is incorrect. sr_mod.o is not needed. Access it through /dev/scd0. There could be several other reasons your CD-R is not working in 7.2. I would have to see setup information for your specific machine but if it is not an LG and it is not sharing an IDE channel with a DVD or a CDROM, it will work, almost always. In those cases mentioned, an installation of kernel 2.2.19 is required and still some LGs don't work. Civileme Please can anybody tell me if that module is loaded by LM 8.0, or it is still missing in that version? Check out in /lib/modules/(mandrake_kernel_version)/scsi FWIW, it is there, but at file:/lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi. And it still is not needed. Thank you very much, Roberto Herrero
Re: [newbie] SCSI emulation
On Sunday 10 June 2001 06:37, Roberto Herrero wrote: SCSI emulation doesn't work in my Macmillan LM 7.2 distribution because the module sr_mod.o is missing. As a consequence, my CD-burner is not operative. Sorry but that analysis is incorrect. sr_mod.o is not needed. Access it through /dev/scd0. There could be several other reasons your CD-R is not working in 7.2. I would have to see setup information for your specific machine but if it is not an LG and it is not sharing an IDE channel with a DVD or a CDROM, it will work, almost always. In those cases mentioned, an installation of kernel 2.2.19 is required and still some LGs don't work. Civileme Please can anybody tell me if that module is loaded by LM 8.0, or it is still missing in that version? Check out in /lib/modules/(mandrake_kernel_version)/scsi FWIW, it is there, but at file:/lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi. And it still is not needed. Thank you very much, Roberto Herrero
Re: [newbie] SCSI support - AHA 2940
It was Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:49:47 + (GMT) when Len Lawrence wrote: System AMD K6 450MHz Matshita 4X CD-ROM drive 4 Gb SCSI disk Adaptec AHA-2940 SCSI adapter The installer recognises the card: * PCI: device 9004 7178 is AdaptecAHA-294x / AIC-7871 (aic7xxx) but fails to find the driver Hmmm. The pc that I already upgraded also has the 2940(uw) and that one installed without a problem. Did you try expert mode install? Paul -- Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. The fearful are caught as often as the bold. -Helen Keller http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Sylpheed 0.4.66 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care **
[newbie] SCSI support - AHA 2940
Problem trying to install the download edition of Linux Mandrake 8.0 obtained from Linux Magazine. The installer instructed me to report the failure as a bug and attach the error messages. There was no indication in the magazine or on the cover disk as to where the report should be sent, so I tried support - no response, as expected. I wished to assess version 8.0 before buying the boxed set, deluxe or powerpack or whatever. I shall be buying it anyway for my newer machine but need it to run on the older PC, which will be exposed to Windows users at some time. Need to give a good impression. System AMD K6 450MHz Matshita 4X CD-ROM drive 4 Gb SCSI disk Adaptec AHA-2940 SCSI adapter This is an old system (1996) with a new motherboard, processor and video card which has been running RedHat successfully for years and Mandrake 7.2 just lately. The initial attempt to use cdrom.img failed with a message like the cdrom does not appear to be a Mandrake installation disk. The installer recognises the card: * PCI: device 9004 7178 is AdaptecAHA-294x / AIC-7871 (aic7xxx) but fails to find the driver * file-not-found-in-archive aic7xxx.o * warning, insmod failed (aic7xxx (null)) (-2) So, can anybody tell me, is this simply an oversight on the part of Mandrake or have they dropped support for this adapter? -- Len Lawrence @ The Thistle Foundation
[newbie] SCSI cdrom installation
Hi I'm installing Linux Mandrake 8.0 BETA 2 on my IBM 386X laptop using a backpack (microsolutions) cdrom with SCSI connection. I did this installation using the same devices with RedHat 5.2 and to my surprise it had a module (bpcd.o) spcifically for this external cdrom. However, Mandrake hasn't. I tried to copy the module from RedHat onto a floppy and, during install, using the cdrom image bootfloppy, choose "use third-party module" or something like that. Mandrake recognizes the file on the floppy but when I selectsit it says"insmod failed". For some reason it can't install this module. This is very frustrating and I'd appreciate any help on the subject. Thanks in advance /Marcus (I'd prefer you'd answer directly to my private address, since I haven't currently any Internet connection from my student room)Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.