Re: [newbie-it] Cos che sfrutta tanta memoria (lunghetto)?
Ciao LukenShiro alle 22:33, giovedì 30 maggio 2002, hai scritto: Il 30.05.02 alle 18:47, il notabile ku68 proferi' codeste parole: Ma, dato che finche' non si riducono le variabili in gioco avrai una bassissima probabilita' di individuare qual e' il problema, prova ad andare per esclusione: p.es. inizia a non utilizzare kde come w.m., ma magari gnome, anche con gnome ho avuto il solito problema... Altra possibilita' p.es. e' utilizzare un programma tipo 'cpuburn' per mandare a pieno regime (meglio ancora avviando piu' istanze contemporaneamente) la cpu, farla surriscaldare [attenzione che la temperatura non salga troppo, pero' .. dovresti tenerla sotto controllo tramite lmsensors, che monitorizza i sensori termici della scheda madre] e verificare il comportamento del sistema in caso di iperattivita' simulata. Proverò O in alternativa potresti svolgere un'attivita' impegnativa come un ciclo lungo e ripetuto di compilazione del kernel (non importa il prodotto finale, quello che interessa e' l'attivita'). Eh? Non so nemmeno come iniziare? ;-) Grazie dell'aiuto ku68
Re: [newbie-it] kde da red hat?
ku68 wrote: Ciao e scusate le domande probabilmente banali ma ho comprato la rivista internet.news perché in allegato c'è openoffice 1.0. Casualmente c'è anche la distro red hat 3.0 e ho letto che contiene kde 3.0 La mia domanda è questa: è possibile upgradare la versione di kde di mdk 8.2 con la 3.0 dai cd della red hat? Se sì come si fa'? ciao Credo di no. Comunque, il kde3 di Mandrake e` fatto in modo di installarsi a fianco di kde2, non in sostituzione. Quindi tutti i pacchetti vengono messi in /opt/kde3/... invece che /usr/... Se anche gli rpm di RH sono organizzati cosi`, potresti farcela. Basta dare rpm -qlp kde3-qualcosa.rpm per vedere come e` organizzata distribuzione dei file. Se i file sono tutti del tipo /usr/bin/.., /usr/lib/... allora puoi provare ad installare cambiando la coollocazione. Dovrebbe esserci un'apposita opzione --prefix per rpm. Qualcosa del tipo: rpm -ivh --prefix=/opt/kde3 file.rpm ciao, Andrea PS. Attento, comunque che e` gia` uscito kde-3.0.1
Re: [newbie-it] kde da red hat?
On Friday 31 May 2002 09:10, ku68, talkin' about [newbie-it] kde da red hat? wrote: Ciao e scusate le domande probabilmente banali ma ho comprato la rivista internet.news perché in allegato c'è openoffice 1.0. Casualmente c'è anche la distro red hat 3.0 e ho letto che contiene kde 3.0 La mia domanda è questa: è possibile upgradare la versione di kde di mdk 8.2 con la 3.0 dai cd della red hat? Se sì come si fa'? Io te lo sconsiglierei. E' vero che si basano su rpm, ma ormai sono due distro differenti, a mio avviso. In questo caso potrebbe andarti bene perche' quello del kde3 non e' un upgrade. Il kde3 si installa completamente a parte, e IN TEORIA dovresti sempre avere la possibilita' di scegliere se lanciare il kde3 o il kde 2.2. Il fatto e' che, probabilmente avrai problemi di dipendenze, e forse allora dovresti incominciare a mischiare i pacchetti mandrake e quelli Red hat. Insomma, io aspetterei quelli della mdk. Forse pero' qualcuno ha provato e sa qualcosa in piu'. bye -- Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia http://www.acidlife.com/mayhem/freefred/ Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://web.genie.it/utenti/f/freefred/ ICQ uin 5887365 - PGP key available on keyservers
[newbie-it] Re: [newbie-it] R: [newbie-it] Perch s'impianta?
1:Sei sicuro di avere tutte le ventole funzionanti a dovere?? 2:Il tuo alimentatore è un 300W nel caso tu abbia un athlon? 3:Prova ad aprire il case e vedi se fa lo stesso difetto! ciao auguri Luigi - Original Message - From: Ferdinando [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 5:48 PM Subject: [newbie-it] R: [newbie-it] Perché s'impianta? Ho letto i test. Da quanto ne so, il malloc significa, letteralmente, memory allocation, e quindi significa che non riesce ad allocare la memoria, se non tutta almeno alcune locazioni. Cerca di fare lo stesso test anche sotto win e controlla se non vede le stesse locazioni. Sempre per quanto riguarda win, c'è da considerare che è lo stesso sistema che si incarica di gestire tutta la memoria, e quindi, probabilmente, è il sistema che è in grado di riconoscere e saltare le parti difettose. Se vuoi fare una prova più drastica, leva un banco alla volta (suppongo che tu abbia due banchi da 128 M) e vedi come si comporta il sistema. Ciao e fammi sapere. Ferdinando
Re: [newbie-it] wine
Se ti interessa io ho provato Vmware e va davvero bene te la consiglio.. - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: M.L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 6:42 PM Subject: [newbie-it] wine Salve ragazzi! Come avrete capito dal oggetto mi sto cimentando con questo emulatore... ma non funge! ok dovrebbe emulare programmi MS-bindows...magari si rifiuta,o cosa ancora piu probabbile io non l'ho saputo configurae a dovere! l'errore che mi riporta è questo di seguito. Capite a cosa fa riferimento l'errore? Grazie degli eventuali chiarimenti Ciao , Tom -- - [root@*** HOME]# wine /mnt/windows/Programmi/TinMessenger/TinMessenger.exe err:module:map_image Could not map section .text, file probably truncated err:module:PE_fixup_imports Module (file) socks5.dll (which is needed by C:\Programmi\TinMessenger\TinMessenger.exe) not found -- -- p.s. se servono altre infoditemenelolo'
Re: [newbie-it]UNBUBSCRIVE
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Re: [newbie-it] kde da red hat?
ku68 wrote: Ciao e scusate le domande probabilmente banali ma ho comprato la rivista internet.news perché in allegato c'è openoffice 1.0. Casualmente c'è anche la distro red hat 3.0 e ho letto che contiene kde 3.0 La mia domanda è questa: è possibile upgradare la versione di kde di mdk 8.2 con la 3.0 dai cd della red hat? Se sì come si fa'? ciao ku68 ci ho provato e mi sono incasinato con le dipendenze. Me le andava a chiedere dai CD di mdk. Domanda: è possibile caricare i CD di RH come fonti alla pari di quelli di mdk??? Se si come si fa??? ciao G.Paolo _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
R: [newbie-it]UNBUBSCRIVE
unbubscrive è veramente bella! :-) - Original Message - From: kroton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it]UNBUBSCRIVE - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 6:34 PM Subject: [newbie-it]UNBUBSCRIVE
Re: [newbie-it] Re: [newbie-it] R: [newbie-it] Perch s'impianta?
Ciao Luigi alle 16:06, venerdì 31 maggio 2002, hai scritto: 1:Sei sicuro di avere tutte le ventole funzionanti a dovere?? si 2:Il tuo alimentatore è un 300W nel caso tu abbia un athlon? ho un PIII 500 3:Prova ad aprire il case e vedi se fa lo stesso difetto! Mah a volte lo fa a volte no anche appena acceso:-( ciao auguri Luigi eh eh ci vuole qualche macumba ... ;-) Ciao ku68
Re: [newbie-it] lilo.conf
Tutto a posto.Grazie miKe :-) Saluti da Giuseppe.
Re: [newbie-it] Fwd: [linux] --- MODEM HCF ROCKWELL/CONEXANT FUNZIONANTE!!!
Scrive Fabio: (Friday, May 31, 2002, ore 4:27:41 PM, a proposito di [newbie-it] Fwd: [linux] --- MODEM HCFROCKWELL/CONEXANTFUNZIONANTE!!!) FM Questo è per Arwan.. FM Forza e coraggio!! Orbene... e' un secolo che leggo solo i titoli delle mail, per fortuna che questo era in maiuscolo... ALE'! Un messaggio per me... FM Finalmente è uscito un driver che riesce a far funzionare il mio modem, FM lo potete trovare sul sito http://www.mbsi.ca/cnxtlindrv/index.html che FM qualcuno di voi mi ha dato tempo fa. Adesso è uscita la versione 0.93 FM che funziona!!! Mi ci fiondo e provo, anche se con la 8.2 ho altre cose che non mi funzionano piu'... tipo la macchina digitale! Prima o poi riusciro' ad entrare a regime! -- Arwanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones.
[newbie-it] Cerco programmi per...
Ciao! Ritorno con alcune domande che feci secoli fa, cui nessuno (o pochi) rispose. Ripongo le domande perche' sono ancora a caccia, magari qualcuno di nuovo (o l'esperienza maturata nel frattempo) ha dei suggerimenti... 1) cerco un programma che faccia quello che realizza Photoshop: in particolare ho bisogno di gestire i livelli di testo mantenendo i parametri (scritta, font, etc); gimp mantiene livelli separati ma per quelli di testo, una volta creata la scritta, non da' possibilita' di modificare, bisogna rifare tutto. Devo fare delle tessere personalizzate, sapete che palle se ogni volta mi tocca impostare i parametri e, soprattutto, controllare che le scritte siano omogenee tra tessera e tessera. 2) cerco un programma simile a FileMaker, per gestire il mio archivio di libri. Ho bisogno di qualcosa di semplice, ad interfaccia grafica, dove personalizzare le schede ed inserire i dati senza dover programmare o creare un data-base ex-novo. Avevo provato MySQL e qualcos'altro, anchce se dire provato e' una parola grossa: l'ho installato e non sono riuscita a farlo partire... Nella speranza di far partire modem e machina fotografica, vi saluto... -- A presto, Arwan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie-it] pc che si pianta quando accedo al floppy
Ciao a tutti ho un piccolo problemino con l'accesso al floppy, ogni volta che tento di scrivere sul dispostivo il mio pc si pianta brutalmente e per uscire da questa situazione l'unica soluzione è riavviare (Quando dico si pianta intendo ke non è possibile muovere neanche il mouse) Ho notato che in /etc/fstab il montaggio del floppy e del cdrom veniva fatto col supermount: /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 Ho provato a cambiarlo per vedere casomai fosse il supermount a darmi questo problema ( visto ke luken un po di tempo fa aveva detto che il supermount poteva dare dei problemi), ma nonn ho risolto granchè visto che adesso mi da errore nel montaggio dei dispositivi all'avvio. Il file fstab l'ho modificato in qesto modo: /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom iso9660 user,iocharset=iso8859-15,ro 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 C'è qualcuno che è già incappato in questo tipo di problema??? Vi sarei grato se potreste aiutarmi a risolverlo... Grazie a tutti in anticipo Ciao Luca
[newbie-it] Messaggio finale kde e suono con Gnome
Scusate la banalità dell'argomento, ma vorrei sapere se qualcuno riesce ad ascoltare il messaggio finale di logout in kde(2.2), io per quanto ho provato non riesco mai a sentirlo per intero, la lunghezza non conta, sembra che sia solo un problema di percentuale nel buffer che viene svuotato troppo presto. Inoltre sarei immensamente grato se mi sapeste dire come attivare gli effetti sonori sotto gnome, io sono riuscito ad attivare quelli di sawfish, cioè quelli per gli eventi delle finestre, ma in nessun modo riesco a sentire il messaggio di avvio e chiusura. Tramite il tool di corredo di gnome sembra che i file vengano accettati in quanto li suona, ma se confermo e poi rientro i files wav che ho selezionato sono ancora presenti, ma non me li fa più sentire, a meno di premere applica (ma cosa applico se non ho fatto niente?). C'è qualcosa da configurare preliminarmente? (tenete presente che non ho alcun problema di volumi settati a zero, visto che sotto gnome se suono un file questo funge!!) Io uso gnome 1.4 fornito a corredo di mdk 8.2, e stò usando ALSA come sistema sonoro, ma non credo che il problema sia ALSA in quanto mi si ripresenta tale e quale con OSS. HELP!!! Ciao Nicola
Re: [newbie-it] pc che si pianta quando accedo al floppy
Il 02.06.02 alle 20:11, il notabile Luca proferi' codeste parole: /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 [..] /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 Si', d'accordo che hai eliminato il supermount, ma cosi' hai tolto di mezzo anche il devfs in fase di montaggio, senza pero' disattivarlo seriamente .. probabilmente e' per quello. Metti un devfs=nomount nel menu del bootloader (con il solito append per lilo, e senza per grub). -- L.U. #210970 L.M. #98222 S.U. #12583 K 2.4.18-puro * Slackware 8.1-rc1 ;-)
Re: [newbie-it] pc che si pianta quando accedo al floppy
Alle 20:49, venerdì 31 maggio 2002, LukenShiro ha scritto: Il 02.06.02 alle 20:11, il notabile Luca proferi' codeste parole: /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 [..] /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 Si', d'accordo che hai eliminato il supermount, ma cosi' hai tolto di mezzo anche il devfs in fase di montaggio, senza pero' disattivarlo seriamente .. probabilmente e' per quello. Metti un devfs=nomount nel menu del bootloader (con il solito append per lilo, e senza per grub). Ho provato a farlo, il mio lilo.conf era fatto in questo modo: boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=788 default=linux keytable=/boot/it-latin1.klt lba32 prompt nowarn timeout=50 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=quiet devfs=mount ** vga=788 read-only other=/dev/hda3 label=windows table=/dev/hda e al posto di mount (sulla riga con gli asterischi) ho sostituito nomount, ma non è cambiato nulla, mi da sempre fallito nel montaggio dei filesystem, potrebbe dipendere da qualcos'altro PS: Visto che sei molto + esperto di me, è giusta la supposizione da cui son partito??? cioè che il problema sia il supermount? Ti ringrazio Ciao Luca
Re: [newbie-it] pc che si pianta quando accedo al floppy
Il 03.06.02 alle 00:10, il notabile Luca proferi' codeste parole: Ho provato a farlo, il mio lilo.conf era fatto in questo modo: [..] append=quiet devfs=mount ** e al posto di mount (sulla riga con gli asterischi) ho sostituito nomount, il lilo (dopo la modifica e prima del riavvio) l'hai dato, veeero? ;) è giusta la supposizione da cui son partito??? cioè che il problema sia il supermount? Direi che pero' il supermount _non_ e' il diretto responsabile dei tuoi problemi: questo sempre partendo dal presupposto che tu stia ancora usando il kernel mandrakizzato originario]. Se, viceversa, hai un kernel naturale (non patchato -mdk; e che quindi non ha abilitato il supermount) era quello. P.S. vabbe' lasciare libera la fantasia, ma sei avanti nel tempo di circa due giorni :) -- L.U. #210970 L.M. #98222 S.U. #12583 K 2.4.18-puro * Slackware 8.1-rc1 ;-)
[newbie-it] Mailing list in KMail
Ho installato Mandrake 8.2 e KDE 2.2.2 con KMAIL. Vorrei sapere come si fa a fare una mailing list. Nella barra degli strumenti in CARTELLA c'è l'opzione CREA che indica il supporto della mailing list. Non riesco tuttavia a capire come fare per costruirla. Grazie Francesco.
Re: [newbie-it] pc che si pianta quando accedo al floppy
Alle 00:28, sabato 1 giugno 2002, LukenShiro ha scritto: il lilo (dopo la modifica e prima del riavvio) l'hai dato, veeero? ;) si fatto Direi che pero' il supermount _non_ e' il diretto responsabile dei tuoi problemi: questo sempre partendo dal presupposto che tu stia ancora usando il kernel mandrakizzato originario]. supposizione esatta, non mi sono ancora spinto fino alla compilazione di un nuovo kernel P.S. vabbe' lasciare libera la fantasia, ma sei avanti nel tempo di circa due giorni :) Grazie per l'incoraggiamento ;)
Re: [newbie-it] Mailing list in KMail
On Friday 31 May 2002 18:32, F.Manini, talkin' about [newbie-it] Mailing list in KMail wrote: Ho installato Mandrake 8.2 e KDE 2.2.2 con KMAIL. Vorrei sapere come si fa a fare una mailing list. Nella barra degli strumenti in CARTELLA c'è l'opzione CREA che indica il supporto della mailing list. Non riesco tuttavia a capire come fare per costruirla. mh no, se ho capito bene quello che intendi, quello che fa il kmail e' filtrare i messaggi mettendoli in quella cartella, che corrispondera' appunto a una mailing list. non a niente a che vedere con la creazione (e gestione presumo) di una mailing list. bye -- Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia http://www.acidlife.com/mayhem/freefred/ Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://web.genie.it/utenti/f/freefred/ ICQ uin 5887365 - PGP key available on keyservers
Re: [newbie] 2 Q's about KWord: persistent margin settings; word count feature
Hello Alan You can create a template from a document name it something (eg.Alan for example) and whenever you open KWord it asks you which one to open A4 or anything else you tell it to open an Alan doc. from the template you just created. As for the counting of words there is an option. Go to File}Statistics and there you have it. You can adjust this option to be called by giving it a shortcut on keybord (I use Ctl+M, which is unique and not global or something like it) you can fix this by going to Tools}Configure Shortcuts}Statistics}Custom Key}Select Ctr+M or anything you like as long as it doesn't mix with something already used by the system globally or other application. Hope this helps Cheers Dimitris --- Alan Tu [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Hello, I'm using the version of KWord which came with Mandrake 8.2. 1. The default margins are too small, but it seems that I need to adjust the margin settings to my liking for each page. Is there a way to have the margin settings persist for all pages in all documents? 2. Is there a word count feature? I cannot seem to find one. Thanks. Alan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Do You Yahoo!? @yahoo.grhttp://www.otenet.gr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Creating cds using gcombust from ISO image?
OK.. i figured if i told gcombust to use an existing image (an .ISO) (2nd option on the burn tab... just below Data files/no image) it woul d create a disk extracting individual files from this image.. wrong? i guess so since when it was done i listed the contents of the cd and it was an exact copy of the ISO file, not the disk that the ISO was of. what am i doing wrong here? any ideas? thanks.. or .. just point me to the right howto/man page since i've been browsing for hours and reading things that seem to have nothing to do with what i'm looking for. thanks :-) Jerry. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
I don't understand the concept behind a United Linux distribution, BUT I do think it would be wonderful if all the Linux distros would get together in concert and decide on unified standards. There are too many differences with how they work. Granted, there will always be things that each distro does themselves, and maybe even would prefer not to share, but they need to all get together and agree on a directory structure, etc etc. I think this will be a good step towards that if the other distros get in on it too. The other fruits of UL, however, I am not as thrilled about. -- Brian says: Use Mozilla for your browsing, e-mail, and IRC needs! v 0.9.9 available for free at http://www.mozilla.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unreal
Well, I was talking about Unreal. If I had been talking about Unreal Tournament, I would have said UT or Unreal Tournament. Ok, that's what I thought - I was thrown off by your mention of the UT_GOTY CD's Thanks -- Brian says: Use Mozilla for your browsing, e-mail, and IRC needs! v 0.9.9 available for free at http://www.mozilla.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Open Office 1.0 Printing problem
On Thursday 30 May 2002 2:21 pm, Roland Hughes wrote: Is anyone having printing problems with OO1.0. I can print out of every other app but nothing comes out of OO. I have set the printers up and it will see the printers I have set up under the cups print system but nothing is queued up even though it acts like it is printing properly. Roly Try using a different font. I had that issue with the Ooffice647D (?) provided with Mandrake 8.2. Depending on the font I used the job would go to the printer and then fail. (Try looking at the print job manager at http://localhost:631 to confirm the jobs are going to the printer) Since I moved to Ooffice1.0 (compiled by ranger http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=2139 ) I have not had a problem. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to fax a document?
On Thursday 30 May 2002 10:39 pm, Josef Lowder wrote: What are the quickest, easiest, and/or best ways to send a fax from Mandrake Linux 8.1? 1. Is it possible to fax a text file directly from the command line? How? 2. How does one setup the system to fax a document as a print output from the K text editor (or from KWord or from any other text/word processor)? 3. I just installed Win4Lin (terrific program! for only $49) so I can use Pagemaker 6.0 until I can find and figure out how to use something Linux based that would be equivalent to Pagemaker. So, how do I configure a printer so that I can send a Pagemaker document as a fax? Any help anyone can provide on any or all of the above variants of this same question would be very much appreciated. Joe Lowder Mesa, Arizona [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: I hope to get as completely converted to Linux as possible, but until I can achieve that goal, Win4Lin is a fantastic transitional product! Anybody else out there using it? Printing to fax is actually easier than most people think. All you need to do is install the efax rpm. If you are using the CUPS printing system you will notice that in addition to your real printer you have three 'pseudo printers' to print to pdf, email, and fax. To configure the fax pseudo printer KmenuApplicationsSend a Fax This will open the 'Send a Fax' GUI select 'Settings' anter your fax details and in the 'System' pane select 'efax System' The command should look something like mine /usr/bin/fax NAME=%user DEV=%dev PAGE=%page FROM=%from send %res %number %files By default it will try to use the modem on /dev/modem if you want to use a specific serial port set that up in the 'Fax' pane. Now to send a fax from your applications simply select the pseudo fax printer, and a GUI will pop up asking where to send the fax. One word of warning. If you use a font not understood by ghostscript the fax will fail in the conversion stage to postscript. Also if you want to print a fax or pdf from Openoffice in a root terminal cd /usr/lib/openoffice/program ./spadmin Add a printer and make the print command qtcups --stdin Now you will have an extra printer in Openoffice which when selected will offer you all the pseudo printers. HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly OT Mandrake stock
On Thursday 30 May 2002 8:48 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: shane wrote: On Wednesday 29 May 2002 09:44 pm, Damian G did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: another part of the problem is that since the sooftware can be obtained free, the support by those who (usually) know it best is what should be charged for. yes, there is still great user support, but sometimes you need more. look at it as the evolution of free trade on the net. OK - but in Wins, I can manage most things, and visit a friendly professional for paid help when I'm really stuck. Where do I find a similar expert in linux, where I could take my box in on a Saturday morning and spend an hour or two watching, talking, listening and learning? Perhaps we need some sort of directory of such help. There must be someone here in West Yorkshire, but I've not come across him/her. Anne Of course there is :-) http://www.wylug.lug.org.uk/ Just take along all your computers and lan cables to the next meeting. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba - Half there?
Sorry for the delay replying Anne I was busy upgrading to KDE3.01 (its very nice) SNIP Ping - the situation is complicated, when Mdk is running. Under W2K serving ping is OK and reasonable speed. Under Mdk, however - From W98 m/cs - ping by number is fast and returns 1 ms round trip. Ping by name gives similar statistics, but there is a delay of 1 3/4 minutes before anything appears on screen! From my m/c, ping by number is no problem. Ping by name does not work at all - 'unknown host Andy'. Does this suggest anything? Anne SNIP So your cabling/ethernet adapters are fine, but name lookup on the segment is really slow. This implies the Win98 machine is trying to resolve host names from lots of places before finally giving up and asking the linux box. The configuration advice Gerald gave you yesterday looks good. Adding the Linux machine to the Windows DNS list will enable it to resolve host names on the local segment. Once it has learned the name it will persist until it eventually expires from the cache. In any case DNS name lookup is not used for Samba which will learn 'Netbios' names in response to a poll. (I think) If 'Andy' is the Netbios name of the remote computer I do not think you can use that in a ping unless you configure nss_wins in the Linux machine as described in rangers comment to this post http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2169mode=threadorder=0thold=0 But thats quite exotic. You do not need to install nss_wins in order to get Samba working. Have you managed to access shares on the Windows computer yet using komba2 or konqueror as described in that link I sent you? derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating cds using gcombust from ISO image?
On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 16:18, Jerry wrote: OK.. i figured if i told gcombust to use an existing image (an .ISO) (2nd option on the burn tab... just below Data files/no image) it woul d create a disk extracting individual files from this image.. wrong? i guess so since when it was done i listed the contents of the cd and it was an exact copy of the ISO file, not the disk that the ISO was of. what am i doing wrong here? any ideas? thanks.. or .. just point me to the right howto/man page since i've been browsing for hours and reading things that seem to have nothing to do with what i'm looking for. thanks :-) So, you entered the name of the iso in the text box and then clicked on the combust button at the bottom? Weird. are you sure the iso is good? Just a thought, but you didn't select the iso file in the data files tab? I doubt it, but that is about the only other thing i can think of that would cause what you describe. -- Chris Spackman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to fax a document?
But, how can I make the pseudo printer. I have efax cups and fax2cups but I don know how to create a pseudo printer. MS On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 08:53, Derek Jennings wrote: On Thursday 30 May 2002 10:39 pm, Josef Lowder wrote: What are the quickest, easiest, and/or best ways to send a fax from Mandrake Linux 8.1? 1. Is it possible to fax a text file directly from the command line? How? 2. How does one setup the system to fax a document as a print output from the K text editor (or from KWord or from any other text/word processor)? 3. I just installed Win4Lin (terrific program! for only $49) so I can use Pagemaker 6.0 until I can find and figure out how to use something Linux based that would be equivalent to Pagemaker. So, how do I configure a printer so that I can send a Pagemaker document as a fax? Any help anyone can provide on any or all of the above variants of this same question would be very much appreciated. Joe Lowder Mesa, Arizona [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: I hope to get as completely converted to Linux as possible, but until I can achieve that goal, Win4Lin is a fantastic transitional product! Anybody else out there using it? Printing to fax is actually easier than most people think. All you need to do is install the efax rpm. If you are using the CUPS printing system you will notice that in addition to your real printer you have three 'pseudo printers' to print to pdf, email, and fax. To configure the fax pseudo printer KmenuApplicationsSend a Fax This will open the 'Send a Fax' GUI select 'Settings' anter your fax details and in the 'System' pane select 'efax System' The command should look something like mine /usr/bin/fax NAME=%user DEV=%dev PAGE=%page FROM=%from send %res %number %files By default it will try to use the modem on /dev/modem if you want to use a specific serial port set that up in the 'Fax' pane. Now to send a fax from your applications simply select the pseudo fax printer, and a GUI will pop up asking where to send the fax. One word of warning. If you use a font not understood by ghostscript the fax will fail in the conversion stage to postscript. Also if you want to print a fax or pdf from Openoffice in a root terminal cd /usr/lib/openoffice/program ./spadmin Add a printer and make the print command qtcups --stdin Now you will have an extra printer in Openoffice which when selected will offer you all the pseudo printers. HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KMail addressbook backups / LM8.2
I had no trouble creating my kmail addressbook from my old netscape.ldif file. Since then of course I have gone on to create more new addresses. I back up to the kab file in home/.kde/share/apps/kab/addressbook.kab and subsequently restore it via the kmail-file-addressbook -import etc but this always fails. There is kmail - file - import but no catagory for importing addressbook.kab files. So how does one import address.kab addressbook files to kmail ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] (Most) Linuxes unite
From what I have read they are not interested in the desktop side
anyway, only the server. Also Mandrake have been contacted, but after
the signing of the deal, but the same time as redhat.
Tony.
-Original Message-
From: Robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] (Most) Linuxes unite
I'm all in favour of distros uniting if they're offering basically the
same thing, but the diversity of distros is one of the strengths of
Linux. The average First World home user doesn't want the same distro
as the impoverished hacker trying to set up a server on an i386, and
neither of them need the NSA's Crack me and I blow off your balls
distro (sorry, I forget the actual name).
/start{flamebait} OTOH, what I would realy like to see is the GNOME
people finally accepting that the Qt widgetsa are better./end{flamebait}
Sir Robin
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 02:18, shane wrote:
On Wednesday 29 May 2002 03:52 pm, Miark opened a general hailing
frequency
and transmitted to all open stations:
Linux distributors including Caldera, SuSE and TurboLinux
are expected to join forces tomorrow to unite on a common
distribution... The US CEO for Mandrake - the most popular
i noticed this too. an interesting thought, one of the things i like
about
linux, and indeed all OSS, is the evolution of it. with so many
active
programers, and users who actively contribute to the community, you
get
features in your software that users ask for, rather than features
that
managers think look cool.
in turn, the best of breed have a chance to win out. mandrake is
_not_
mentioned in the group. could it be they are not fighting redhat
only?
mandrake does have the desktop lead. do these other companies see it
as a
redhat/mandrake world they are fighting?
if so, will this be a matter of standards only, or will theses
companies
effectivly merge? and how does this reflect the stock question that
has
come up in another thread? if everyone sees you as the competition
does
that mean you are succeeding? or about to be cut out?
can't wait for the announce. and mandrakes reply.
--
If Microsoft is innovative in any area, it is in creating new forms
of
intimidation. - Ralph Nader
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Re: [newbie] Slightly OT Mandrake stock
OK - but in Wins, I can manage most things, and visit a friendly professional for paid help when I'm really stuck. Where do I find a similar expert in linux, where I could take my box in on a Saturday morning and spend an hour or two watching, talking, listening and learning? Perhaps we need some sort of directory of such help. There must be someone here in West Yorkshire, but I've not come across him/her. Anne Well this might not help you right away but the growth rate of Linux seems to be fast enough that that local professional help should be avalable soon, just a matter of time. Maybe any day or maybe a few years. If you do a search and find the statistics for linux growth and extend the curve into the future a bit I think that you will see that more local help is not to far off in the future. Maybe it's time to start a local users groupe in your area. Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba - Half there?
On Thursday 30 May 2002 8:10 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Quote from O'Reilly's Samba book: Gosh.. you are keen. ;-) If you are presented with a dialog requesting the password for a user IPC$, then Samba did not accept the password that was sent from the client. I presume this means that the client m/c sent the Win login and password, but it was refused, so requesting a new one? It goes on to say If you are using Windows 98 or Windows NT Service Pack 3 or above, this is probably because the client is sending encrypted passwords instead of plaintext passwords. You can remedy this situation by performing two steps on the Samba server. First, add the following entry to the [global] section of your Samba configuration file: encrypt password=yes. Second, find the smbpasswd program on the samba server...and use it to add an entry to Samba's encrypted password database. For example, to add user steve to Samba's encrypted password database, type smbpasswd -a steve. The first time you enter this password, the program will output an error message indicating that the password database does not exist; it will then create the database... I presume that Webmin added the users to the encrypted password list. Just to be sure, I tried adding Andy and Micky as advised. It didn't say 'I already know about them', but it didn't cure it either. Yes webmin will have done that for you. Now you are learning the command line as well as the GUI :-) Anne You _must_ be root when you use smbpasswd or else it acts differently. As root it will add a user to the database and set their password. As non root it will just change the local users password. The symptom you are getting is consistent with a conflict between encrypted/non encrypted passwords. I'm not even sure how to change that option in Win98 but maybe its worth a try changing it in Linux? Also are you quite sure that the password you have defined is the actual password your Win98 user used when logging into their computer? Win98 lets you use a computer even if the username/password does not exist, but then Networking does not work. (Well its security of a sort) Tell you what try this:- insert this line in the [Globals section] of your smb.conf file log level = 4 Then restart the Samba server (using Webmin or Mandrake Control CentreSystemServices) Now try accessing the Linux shares and take a look in /var/log/samba You should see a file for your Win98 machine, and the log will tell you what did and did not work. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Possibly OT? MDK Partitioning
On Thursday 30 May 2002 05:13 pm, Michael Adams wrote: On Thu, 30 May 2002 22:50, et wrote: the file system for / and /boot need to be compiled into the kernal, not loaded as a module, that was (as I understand it) the reason not to use reiserFS for those partitions. however in later kernals, the journal FS can be complied to the kernal during install, ending the no ReiserFS for /boot reasoning. however, since most newbies don't know weither the file system is loaded as a module or is compiled into the kernal...no ReiserFS /boot still seems a fair rule. Thanks, clear and concise. Just the info required. I've been usin ReiserFS for almost two years. During that time I've always installed Mandrake into one big 'ol '/' partition (IOW, no separate /boot partition, or any other for that matter). ReiserFS has always been loaded as a module, not compiled into the kernel. During this period I've used dozens of kernels from 2.2.x up to my current 2.4.18-13k7 that I compiled. Making my own kernel from mandrake sources has always been one of the first things I do shortly after a fresh install. Usually within days. Still either with the default install kernel, or my own, ReiserFS has always been a module. 'lsmod' always shows ReiserFs module loaded. I've never had a problem with ReiserFS loaded as a module with /boot being ReiserFS (or XFS). I see this /boot can't be Reiser, or even /boot must be ext2 all the time. I don't know where it comes from, or why these ideas persist. I can only say it's never been true here with many kernels, and usin first with an Intel/Intel, now with an AMD/VIA system. -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to fax a document?
On Friday 31 May 2002 2:50 pm, Manuel Soto wrote: But, how can I make the pseudo printer. I have efax cups and fax2cups but I don know how to create a pseudo printer. Isn't it already there? Just look in KDE Control CentreSystemPrinting Manager The bottom device in the list is 'Send to Fax' That is the pseudo printer. If it is missing for some reason open KDE Control Centre as root (by typing kcontrol in a root terminal) Press the button 2nd from left at the top of the print manager screen which adds a pseudo printer In the Command settings box enter kdeprintfax %in In Location box enter External In Requirements enter exec:kdeprintfax Then click 'Add' then 'OK' derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly OT Mandrake stock
On Thursday 30 May 2002 12:48 pm, Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Perhaps we need some sort of directory of such help. There must be someone here in West Yorkshire, but I've not come across him/her. if we did have a directory of such things it might look like this http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/User_Groups/ and i might be the editor there. ;) -- Microsoft, Windows, Windows 98, Bugs, Lacking Features, IRQ Conflicts, System Crashes, Non-Functional Multitasking, The Y2K Problem and The Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corp., Redmond, Washington, USA. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly OT Mandrake stock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 30 May 2002 8:48 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: OK - but in Wins, I can manage most things, and visit a friendly professional for paid help when I'm really stuck. Where do I find a similar expert in linux, where I could take my box in on a Saturday morning and spend an hour or two watching, talking, listening and learning? Perhaps we need some sort of directory of such help. There must be someone here in West Yorkshire, but I've not come across him/her. Apart from the excellent suggestion by Derek, do you have a local LETS (time bank) scheme? http://www.letslinkuk.org/ http://www.timebanks.co.uk/ There's one here, and I'm thinking of joining as a 'Linux person' :) Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE894mNCv59vFiSU4YRAvLwAJ4wr9fPMxvculYDa6vhoJmfV3iaKQCeMcQL GOFHfKRm1slpI/0hSJNZDac= =kRTW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
On Thursday 30 May 2002 10:32 pm, Franki did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: If it goes ahead as planned, it could hurt mandrake long term... (if they don't join) on the other hand it is basically 1 distro with merit, 1 new comer without, and 2 that died and started stinking some time back. also the way they are doing it seems anti GPL in someways. unless it somehow catches on with companies who buy linux it will just fade away. also they seem to be worried about servers mostly. unless redhat joins (don't hold your breath, but they could) they have somewhere between little and no chance this will take hold. simple reason is that if all those companies are promoting the use of unitedlinux then not many of them will advocate the use of a non unitedlinux based distro.. will they? i wonder. all those companies support both linux _and_ MS. Then again, Mandrake is already lsb,, or close isn't it? so they dont have a huge amount of work to do to match it anyway.. if i recall mandrake is LSB but i question 3 of the 4 distro in UL. so really, they could just wait till the disto appears and change to support total compatability with it.. and advertise as such.. without rubbing heads with anyone.. likely the best plan. -- We have forgotten who we are. We have alienated ourselves from the unfolding of the cosmos, become estranged from the movements of the Earth, turned our backs on the cycles of life. -UN Environmental Sabbath Program shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
On Friday 31 May 2002 04:12 am, Michael Adams did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: So, one question comes to mind. Would the United liberation front ;-) support the SuSe alternative to RPM's? or connectives port of apt? or maybe urpmi? no, none of those. the pres of caldera reports the UL distro will not be compiled. download source only. UL day 2. already the reports are conflicting. -- Followers of tao are nonconformists. The conventional label our behavior erratic, antisocial, irresponsible, inexplicable, outrageous, even scandalous. We hear other voices than they do. -Deng Ming-Dao shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unreal
On Friday 31 May 2002 01:00 am, you wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 12:17 am, you wrote: It is the Loki release for Linux, right? If so, then grab it. Works great with my Geforce here No, someone hacked the UT installer and made it so you can use Unreal in Linux now too. I am told at MUB that it is really cool, so I am looking to get it now. Its a wonderful game though, and worth the effort to get it setup... ;-) I have a tutorial on installing UT on my site. Oh sorry then, I misunderstood. I did have Unreal setup one time with some Linux installer or the other, back on my old 475mhz machine with a Voodoo 3000 video card. Video was fine (great looking game in fact) but I never could get the sound to work with that installer Good luck with your efforts! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Xine question...
I looked thru the archives, and on Xines' Sourcforge site, but couldn't find the info I wanted... I did install all the plugins that came with Mandrake 8.2. Is there a plugin for Xine that will allow it to do menu navigation like Ogle? I did figure out how to use Nav to pick individual files) Also, on some of my DVD's I get a no Xine plugin for Ts.vob or something like that... Is there a plugin for that as well? Thanks all! PS Ogle works great here, on 99% of my DVD's but I wanted to get Xine fully working so I could do a head 2 head comp. The DVD's that Ogle won't do here are: Legend of Hell House (sits forever, choppy video) Ghostbusters (can't launch movie - but can play individual scenes) Arrival 2 (Arrival 1 on the flip side works great - go figure) Jackson County Jail (sits forever, can pick scenes but never starts them) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
Michael Adams wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2002 19:29, Brian Koppe wrote: I don't understand the concept behind a United Linux distribution, BUT I do think it would be wonderful if all the Linux distros would get together in concert and decide on unified standards. There are too many differences with how they work. Granted, there will always be things that each distro does themselves, and maybe even would prefer not to share, but they need to all get together and agree on a directory structure, etc etc. I think this will be a good step towards that if the other distros get in on it too. The other fruits of UL, however, I am not as thrilled about. So, one question comes to mind. Would the United liberation front ;-) support the SuSe alternative to RPM's? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com The directory structure is standardized as the File Hierarchical System 2.2. The run-time libraries and startup structures are addressed in the Linux Standards Base 1.0. There are things left unaddressed in those documents, like where desktops go, but then Mandrakesoft is only one member of a coalition who made those standards and the others were mostly concerned with server use. United Linux seems to say that others do not comply with those standards, a typical sales stunt, and probably a counter move to RHs competitive upgrade offer. I find it interesting that they made no mention of the efforts of the NSA to develop a very very secure linux or the adjustments necessary to the standards to accommodate it. It is about as spy-proof as software gets by the spies themselves... NSA has issued a completed source for the kernel and security routines (37 Mb download) and I think you can guess we will be looking carefully at it for possible incorporation. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] phpSysInfo question
http://www.barrymichels.com/phpSysInfo-2.0/ This script will show data right after a reboot, for about an hour or so, then N/A's everywhere. Any ideas why? I've searched through their forums, but they don't help. Their main suggestion is not to run php in safe mode, but I don't. I've tried re-starting several processes, but nothing I do short of rebooting will fix it. I'll never set a record for the longest up-time doing that... :) If you notice the 'Modified by' text at the bottom, keep in mind that this problem was occurring before I modified it. The only changes I made were to what data was shown in the templates. Which brings up another question: does any one know where the command is to create the title? I want to get rid of the intranet IP address. Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
I find it interesting that they made no mention of the efforts of the NSA to develop a very very secure linux or the adjustments necessary to the standards to accommodate it. It is about as spy-proof as software gets by the spies themselves... NSA has issued a completed source for the kernel and security routines (37 Mb download) and I think you can guess we will be looking carefully at it for possible incorporation. Civileme That seems inconsistent with their we want a back door to Winsux behavior. Why would the NSA want us normal folk to have very secure machines? Doesn't that just make their sky games more difficult? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Possibly OT? MDK Partitioning
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday 30 May 2002 05:13 pm, Michael Adams wrote: On Thu, 30 May 2002 22:50, et wrote: the file system for / and /boot need to be compiled into the kernal, not loaded as a module, that was (as I understand it) the reason not to use reiserFS for those partitions. however in later kernals, the journal FS can be complied to the kernal during install, ending the no ReiserFS for /boot reasoning. however, since most newbies don't know weither the file system is loaded as a module or is compiled into the kernal...no ReiserFS /boot still seems a fair rule. Thanks, clear and concise. Just the info required. I've been usin ReiserFS for almost two years. During that time I've always installed Mandrake into one big 'ol '/' partition (IOW, no separate /boot partition, or any other for that matter). ReiserFS has always been loaded as a module, not compiled into the kernel. During this period I've used dozens of kernels from 2.2.x up to my current 2.4.18-13k7 that I compiled. Making my own kernel from mandrake sources has always been one of the first things I do shortly after a fresh install. Usually within days. Still either with the default install kernel, or my own, ReiserFS has always been a module. 'lsmod' always shows ReiserFs module loaded. I've never had a problem with ReiserFS loaded as a module with /boot being ReiserFS (or XFS). I see this /boot can't be Reiser, or even /boot must be ext2 all the time. I don't know where it comes from, or why these ideas persist. I can only say it's never been true here with many kernels, and usin first with an Intel/Intel, now with an AMD/VIA system. Well, Tom, tis no problem with one system on the machine, but put on another linux distro or even a Mandrake with a different filesystem in use, and multiple booting won't work, particularly not with an XFS /. The reason is in the initrd.img which loads those modules needed at boot time and what the modules support. So, in most cases it is not a problem, but back in 8.1 if you made /boot an XFS partition, the initrd needed to mount /boot implied a kernel able to support XFS, so a dual-boot with RH, for example, was impossible. Therefore a /boot being ext2 is a good idea for those wanting to multiboot multiple distros, or multi-boot Mandrake systems with DIFFERENT filesystems, like one JFS one XFS, one Reiser, etc. One big / is great for those brave souls who install eveything every distro or who believe (ha) that the upgrade will someday really work as advertised. (Take a lesson from windows where billions were spent on upgrades and they still mostly don't work completely). For me, there is /boot (Usually common to all systems) /(Sometimes common to more than one system) /home (usually common to several different systems) /usr(sometimes common to several Mandrakes) /var /opt(usually unique to each system) /usr/local (always unique to one system) Now another thing, and very important... DON'T use software RAID for your / partition or else the Update/Upgrade function absolutely will not work and your work installing a new system is multiplied manyfold. I don't know about the rest of you folks, but I reach for the disk with the Update program when I have a major change to make (like a new video card), or a major change to make in software profile (like adding in all the servers). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
Miark wrote: I find it interesting that they made no mention of the efforts of the NSA to develop a very very secure linux or the adjustments necessary to the standards to accommodate it. It is about as spy-proof as software gets by the spies themselves... NSA has issued a completed source for the kernel and security routines (37 Mb download) and I think you can guess we will be looking carefully at it for possible incorporation. Civileme That seems inconsistent with their we want a back door to Winsux behavior. Why would the NSA want us normal folk to have very secure machines? Doesn't that just make their sky games more difficult? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Ummm, the focus has changed in the intelligence community lately. It is more on preventing spying than performing it. The whole issue is in source and is either GPL or public domain (yes, wide open for enhance, extend and claim) for those exclusively done by the NSA, as is required by Federal Law. I am tickled that they released the thing rather than just circulating it to the security-related Federal Agencies, and I am also pleased that they observed the strictures of the GPL, in letter and in spirit. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly OT Mandrake stock
On Friday 31 May 2002 10:34 am, Shane wrote: On Thursday 30 May 2002 12:48 pm, Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Perhaps we need some sort of directory of such help. There must be someone here in West Yorkshire, but I've not come across him/her. if we did have a directory of such things it might look like this http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/User_Groups/ and i might be the editor there. ;) FWIW: The British magazine, LinuxFormat, has a list of UK LUG's in each issue. The March issue shows 69 LUG's. It's also available online at www.linuxformat.co.uk/links.php; another listing is at www.lug.org.uk. The West Yorkshire LUG is at www.wylug.org.uk; there are other LUG's in Huddersfield, Manchester and Blackburn. Happy hunting. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
On Friday 31 May 2002 10:55 am, Miark wrote: I find it interesting that they made no mention of the efforts of the NSA to develop a very very secure linux or the adjustments necessary to the standards to accommodate it. It is about as spy-proof as software gets by the spies themselves... NSA has issued a completed source for the kernel and security routines (37 Mb download) and I think you can guess we will be looking carefully at it for possible incorporation. Civileme That seems inconsistent with their we want a back door to Winsux behavior. Why would the NSA want us normal folk to have very secure machines? Doesn't that just make their sky games more difficult? Miark Visit http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/(very interesting) The National Security Agency is the Nation's [USA] cryptologic organization. It coordinates, directs, and performs highly specialized activities to protect U.S. information systems and produce foreign intelligence information. Linux was chosen as the platform for this work because its growing success and open development environment provided an opportunity to demonstrate that this functionality can be successful in a mainstream operating system and, at the same time, contribute to the security of a widely used system. Additionally, the integration of these security research results into Linux may encourage additional operating system security research that may lead to additional improvement in system security. Your tax dollars at work ... betch'a Billy G's fixin to have a baby ;) -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
My guess is, the more secure the desktops the better, but your email messages are ours for the taking. -Original Message- From: daRcmaTTeR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 5:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux On Fri, 31 May 2002, civileme wrote: Miark wrote: I find it interesting that they made no mention of the efforts of the NSA to develop a very very secure linux or the adjustments necessary to the standards to accommodate it. It is about as spy-proof as software gets by the spies themselves... NSA has issued a completed source for the kernel and security routines (37 Mb download) and I think you can guess we will be looking carefully at it for possible incorporation. Civileme That seems inconsistent with their we want a back door to Winsux behavior. Why would the NSA want us normal folk to have very secure machines? Doesn't that just make their sky games more difficult? Miark Ummm, the focus has changed in the intelligence community lately. It is more on preventing spying than performing it. The whole issue is in source and is either GPL or public domain (yes, wide open for enhance, extend and claim) for those exclusively done by the NSA, as is required by Federal Law. I am tickled that they released the thing rather than just circulating it to the security-related Federal Agencies, and I am also pleased that they observed the strictures of the GPL, in letter and in spirit. Civileme Civileme, this is incredibly interesting. where does one find the files to compile the NSA's version of Linux. I'd love to take a look at this system. -- Mark a.k.a. daRcmaTTeR -- If your wife told you NOT to do it there's probably a real good reason! - REGISTERED LINUX USER #186492 Penguinized since 1997 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify me immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd, unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2 Q's about KWord: persistent margin settings; word count feature
I've use kword for some time now and found it quite reliable. I forget where kword sets margins, but I never bother with that anyway. I want all my printer output set within margins and use the device the distro gives you for that.That used to be qtcups, alas, someone thought it a good idea to remove the nice little gui interface in qtcups in LM8.2, and left us with a spastic little magin setting device called alignmargins in a shell. I'm not sure what you refer to by word count, no, not like a text editor has a word and line counters. If you mean like in Klyx the Latec so called word processor, no, On the otherhand if you mean block the type from left to right margin, then yes, it's that little icon in the menu bar. John uhm.. i'm using 8.2 and i do have qtcups. are you sure you just didn't install it? Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] (Most) Linuxes unite
On Friday 31 May 2002 09:56 am, you wrote: From what I have read they are not interested in the desktop side anyway, only the server. Also Mandrake have been contacted, but after the signing of the deal, but the same time as redhat. Tony. Well, it doesn't matter because they invite any company to join, and all this is is a base for distros... There will still be SuSE, Turbo, etc. just all will be compatible... Really isn't a bad idea, IMO. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unreal
Quake or Quake 2? I have a tutorial on my site for Quake. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Lock up/ Shut off all internet capability?
For reasons to long to describe, I must run Redhat 5.2 as one boot along with Mandrake 8.2 on another. When the machine is booted to Redhat 5.2 there is no need for network connectivity and I am worried about it getting hacked. Making it secure with a firewall/etc would probably be difficult in any case and since I can't depend on people to unplug the machine at that point, I would like to lock up /shut off 5.2's network connectivity without having to reinstall it. Can anyone tell me how? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Compiling Permission?
If your question is as it sounds, your user account obviously needs to have executable access. Typing ls -l `which gcc` should show you the existing permissions on the file. You can either make gcc executable by other (chmod o+x `which gcc`) so that all users can run it, or you can make it group executable (chmod g+x) and make sure your user is in the group that has access. The first solution is probably better for you, provided you have no security concerns. - Kathy On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 22:27, Barry Michels wrote: I've just embarked on my first Linux application and can't even compile. When I try to start a new project, I get 'Permission Denied'. I can run gcc as root, but what permission do I need to give my user account so I can compile when logged in normally? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Possibly OT? MDK Partitioning
On Friday 31 May 2002 11:02 am, civileme wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: I've never had a problem with ReiserFS loaded as a module with /boot being ReiserFS (or XFS). I see this /boot can't be Reiser, or even /boot must be ext2 all the time. I don't know where it comes from, or why these ideas persist. I can only say it's never been true here with many kernels, and usin first with an Intel/Intel, now with an AMD/VIA system. Well, Tom, tis no problem with one system on the machine, but put on another linux distro or even a Mandrake with a different filesystem in use, and multiple booting won't work, particularly not with an XFS /. The reason is in the initrd.img which loads those modules needed at boot time and what the modules support. So, in most cases it is not a problem, but back in 8.1 if you made /boot an XFS partition, the initrd needed to mount /boot implied a kernel able to support XFS, so a dual-boot with RH, for example, was impossible. Therefore a /boot being ext2 is a good idea for those wanting to multiboot multiple distros, or multi-boot Mandrake systems with DIFFERENT filesystems, like one JFS one XFS, one Reiser, etc. Well thanks, guess i've been dodging bullets ;) Fortunately all my XFS tries were with 8.2. and your explaination leads me to suspect that's might why I had some XFS gremlins. I didn't multi boot, but I did have another storage partition that was Reiser. One big / is great for those brave souls who install eveything every distro or who believe (ha) that the upgrade will someday really work as advertised. (Take a lesson from windows where billions were spent on upgrades and they still mostly don't work completely). Well, I always install rather than upgrade. Yes I'm a brave soul (sometimes ;), and I'd be the first not to recommend one big '/' to anybody but a single user desktop. I do backup /home to another partition regularly, and occaisionally to CDR. For me, there is /boot (Usually common to all systems) /(Sometimes common to more than one system) /home (usually common to several different systems) /usr(sometimes common to several Mandrakes) /var /opt(usually unique to each system) /usr/local (always unique to one system) I sort'a knew I'd havt'a install over multiple partitions if (as I was recently considerin a look at RH7.3) I were to boot more than one Linux distro. Up till now I've just booted Mandrake and W98. Now another thing, and very important... DON'T use software RAID for your / partition or else the Update/Upgrade function absolutely will not work and your work installing a new system is multiplied manyfold. I don't know about the rest of you folks, but I reach for the disk with the Update program when I have a major change to make (like a new video card), or a major change to make in software profile (like adding in all the servers). Civileme Thanks again, but I've never even considered RAID as an option. BTW, I jumped on that http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=MLINK56K link you recently posted. $24.50 + $9 2nd day air. Not so much 'cause I need a new modem, but I do need to have other use of my one ISA slot. UPS should be bringin it this afternoon, I'll post a 'review' after some experience with it. -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
On Friday 31 May 2002 09:47 am, Tony S. Sykes did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: My guess is, the more secure the desktops the better, but your email messages are ours for the taking. behold the magic of pgp! :) i rarely use it, but it is nice to have when it makes you feel safe -- Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
On Fri, 31 May 2002, civileme wrote: Miark wrote: I find it interesting that they made no mention of the efforts of the NSA to develop a very very secure linux or the adjustments necessary to the standards to accommodate it. It is about as spy-proof as software gets by the spies themselves... NSA has issued a completed source for the kernel and security routines (37 Mb download) and I think you can guess we will be looking carefully at it for possible incorporation. Civileme That seems inconsistent with their we want a back door to Winsux behavior. Why would the NSA want us normal folk to have very secure machines? Doesn't that just make their sky games more difficult? Miark Ummm, the focus has changed in the intelligence community lately. It is more on preventing spying than performing it. The whole issue is in source and is either GPL or public domain (yes, wide open for enhance, extend and claim) for those exclusively done by the NSA, as is required by Federal Law. I am tickled that they released the thing rather than just circulating it to the security-related Federal Agencies, and I am also pleased that they observed the strictures of the GPL, in letter and in spirit. Civileme Civileme, this is incredibly interesting. where does one find the files to compile the NSA's version of Linux. I'd love to take a look at this system. -- Mark a.k.a. daRcmaTTeR -- If your wife told you NOT to do it there's probably a real good reason! - REGISTERED LINUX USER #186492 Penguinized since 1997 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Compiling Permission?
Awesome! I changed the permissions yesterday, but on the wrong file. I had to follow the links from gcc to /etc/alternatives and then back to gcc-2.96 to figure out which one to change. Had to do the same thing with c++ /etc/alternativesg++-2.96. Thanks - Original Message - From: K Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Compiling Permission? If your question is as it sounds, your user account obviously needs to have executable access. Typing ls -l `which gcc` should show you the existing permissions on the file. You can either make gcc executable by other (chmod o+x `which gcc`) so that all users can run it, or you can make it group executable (chmod g+x) and make sure your user is in the group that has access. The first solution is probably better for you, provided you have no security concerns. - Kathy On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 22:27, Barry Michels wrote: I've just embarked on my first Linux application and can't even compile. When I try to start a new project, I get 'Permission Denied'. I can run gcc as root, but what permission do I need to give my user account so I can compile when logged in normally? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
I've been to many sites trying to figure out if these old Divx movies can be played in Linux, but I can't seem to find a straight answer. Can they, or can't they? If so, how? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux / NSA
I'm sure the NSA could crack any PGP e-mail in a minute or two if they wanted to. Miark shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: On Friday 31 May 2002 09:47 am, Tony S. Sykes did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: My guess is, the more secure the desktops the better, but your email messages are ours for the taking. behold the magic of pgp! :) i rarely use it, but it is nice to have when it makes you feel safe -- Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
May 31, 2002 10:37 am,daRcmaTTeR wrote: snip this is incredibly interesting. where does one find the files to compile the NSA's version of Linux. I'd love to take a look at this system. ~~ http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/ -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org 1. We prefer not to change the root password, it's an nice easy one --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
By old Divx movies.. you are referring to DivX 3.x ? Yeah sure... afaik all players for linux that support DivX can play it well. I personally use MPlayer, which supports something like 50 different formats, including all versions of DivX (even the latest 5.something), asf, mpg and so on. There is a lot of documentation on their site and in the tarballs about how it works, so I won't waiste my time writing pages of repeated text ;-) Greetings Ralph On Fri, 31 May 2002, Miark wrote: I've been to many sites trying to figure out if these old Divx movies can be played in Linux, but I can't seem to find a straight answer. Can they, or can't they? If so, how? Miark -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
On the other hand, I bet ol' Billy is grinnin' like a chesire cat over this filth: ..the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution outlines how open source might facilitate efforts to disrupt or sabotage electronic commerce, air traffic control or even sensitive surveillance systems. Unlike proprietary software, open source software does not make the underlying code of a software confidential. 'Computer systems are the backbone to U.S. national security', says Fossedal, chairman... 'Before the Pentagon and other federal agencies make uninformed decision to alter the very foundation of computer security, they should study the potential consequences carefully.' http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/f_headline.cgi?bw.053002/221502375 Tell me Billy isn't greasing their FUD skid. Miark Visit http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/(very interesting) The National Security Agency is the Nation's [USA] cryptologic organization. It coordinates, directs, and performs highly specialized activities to protect U.S. information systems and produce foreign intelligence information. Linux was chosen as the platform for this work because its growing success and open development environment provided an opportunity to demonstrate that this functionality can be successful in a mainstream operating system and, at the same time, contribute to the security of a widely used system. Additionally, the integration of these security research results into Linux may encourage additional operating system security research that may lead to additional improvement in system security. Your tax dollars at work ... betch'a Billy G's fixin to have a baby ;) -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 May 2002 7:10 pm, Miark wrote: ..the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution outlines how open source might facilitate efforts to disrupt or sabotage electronic commerce, air traffic control or even sensitive surveillance systems. Unlike proprietary software, open source software does not make the underlying code of a software confidential. 'Computer systems are the backbone to U.S. national security', says Fossedal, chairman... 'Before the Pentagon and other federal agencies make uninformed decision to alter the very foundation of computer security, they should study the potential consequences carefully.' When I saw 'air traffic control' I smelt a scoundrel. The following is flagrantly OT but demonstrates that someone who knows what they're talking about is, occasionally, useful ;) As someone who works in air traffic management and the architecture and UI of systems thereof ... all I can say is that the de Tocqueville Institute is offering the most gorgeously fluorescent red herring. Windows would not get within shouting distance of a core ATM system because of its reliability problems, because you get everything bar the kitchen sink thrown in and, by far the most important reason, because Microsoft is _extremely_ reluctant to alter basic functionality. (A friend told me an a story of working on a banking system for one of the UK Big Four banks which was using Internet Explorer as a front end for browsing information; the bank wanted various things not merely turned off or obfuscated but _removed_ and Microsoft would not budge despite having money thrown at it; in the end the front end was written from scratch). When, if things go wrong, you kill people, you want the technically best solution, and these tend to be a mixture of closed and open source. All the modern ATM systems I know are based on a flavour of Unix (typically AIX or Solaris) which is customised by working closely with the vendor. There is also quite a bit of open source in there; most usually X11, again customised. I'm pretty sure Linux-based systems will appear soon; that they haven't already is because ATM moves slowly and carefully, for obvious and good reasons. A lot of uninformed 'analysts' also seem to think that it's easy to hack into ATM systems. This is not true, certainly not in the UK; they run on networks separate from the public telephone, wireless and broadband networks, and usually use customised protocols. These protocols are the right solution for the wrong reason (historical compatibility with some very cranky old systems) but the notion of some 14-year-old telling planes to go all over the place from their back bedroom is preposterous.The Internet, or even TCP/IP, and ATM do not mix! Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE898Q7Cv59vFiSU4YRAtMQAJ9Luo4zM+TkywnUeOXviAc5cD/aDQCcCCRV ozftw9E4TLJ2/YD3coFfoeQ= =64n2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 10:55 am, Miark wrote: I find it interesting that they made no mention of the efforts of the NSA to develop a very very secure linux or the adjustments necessary to the standards to accommodate it. It is about as spy-proof as software gets by the spies themselves... NSA has issued a completed source for the kernel and security routines (37 Mb download) and I think you can guess we will be looking carefully at it for possible incorporation. Civileme That seems inconsistent with their we want a back door to Winsux behavior. Why would the NSA want us normal folk to have very secure machines? Doesn't that just make their sky games more difficult? Miark Visit http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/(very interesting) The National Security Agency is the Nation's [USA] cryptologic organization. It coordinates, directs, and performs highly specialized activities to protect U.S. information systems and produce foreign intelligence information. Linux was chosen as the platform for this work because its growing success and open development environment provided an opportunity to demonstrate that this functionality can be successful in a mainstream operating system and, at the same time, contribute to the security of a widely used system. Additionally, the integration of these security research results into Linux may encourage additional operating system security research that may lead to additional improvement in system security. Your tax dollars at work ... betch'a Billy G's fixin to have a baby ;) Ya know Tom - ginning broadly and chest puffed out with Pride, it's things like this that give me such a sense of pride. I LOVE being a Linuxer. I'm downing loading SELinux as I write this and I can't wait to get home from work to being putting it all together! I've never build a linux system from scratch before, but I think its time that I did. -- Mark a.k.a. daRcmaTTeR -- If your wife told you NOT to do it there's probably a real good reason! - REGISTERED LINUX USER #186492 Penguinized since 1997 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NSA / PGP
On Friday 31 May 2002 11:26 am, daRcmaTTeR did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: On Fri, 31 May 2002, Miark wrote: I'm sure the NSA could crack any PGP e-mail in a minute or two if they wanted to. Miark i'm quite sure you're correct. i doubt that. it is simply a matter of raw math. http://senderek.de/security/secret-key.protection.html in short if they had a super computer than can only be imagined today (not built) it would take hundreds of years to guess a key. or to quote another page: To recover a particular (128 bit) key, one must, on average, search half the keyspace. That is 127 bits: 170,141,183,460,469,231,731,687,303715,884,105,728. If you had 1,000,000,000 machines that could try 1,000,000,000 keys/sec, it would still take all these machines longer than the universe as we know it has existed and then some, to find the key. IDEA, as far as present technology is concerned, is not vulnerable to brute-force attack, pure and simple. the key size i use (again only once in awhile, but i use it) will take 300,000,000,000,000,000,000 MIPS-years to factor. let them break that in 2-3 minutes. as for backdoors, do you think they could do that to an open source project? nobody would notice? nah. -- When everyone agrees around here, it means that something must be wrong. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NSA / PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 May 2002 8:36 pm, shane wrote: i doubt that. it is simply a matter of raw math. http://senderek.de/security/secret-key.protection.html in short if they had a super computer than can only be imagined today (not built) it would take hundreds of years to guess a key. Ah, but they don't use (general purpose) supercomputers. They use _very_ specialised computers; I read somewhere that the NSA has its own chip fabrication plant ... Your code cracker will likely be a PCI card inside a common-or-garden PC, not a black box performing the breaststroke in a lake of liquid nitrogen. (And the standard PC could be running Linux ;) And it may well use algorithms nobody in the 'free world' knows about. There's a known precedent: one of the most astonishing things I've read for ages is that the RSA algorithm was invented in secret about a decade before it was 'invented in public': http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/7.04/crypto_pr.html Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE899MbCv59vFiSU4YRAjH9AKC/YIHa68Sf1Mmbmnq2mPbsAiNzYwCeMMgm 9Sva6r7nvP4BiEsoQTeGV6g= =Da10 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Thrown off the list ?
Hi all - Please forgive me for waisting your bandwidth. After about - what - half a year on the list, I'm suddenly censored out. Don't know why - to many beers and cheers maybe ? Makes me kind'a sad, though. I think this list is very unique, informative, helpful and - sometimes - amusing. So : if this mail infects your screen, send it to /dev/null. Then I'll be happy again ! Regards Kaj Haulrich Denmark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
On Friday 31 May 2002 11:10 am, Miark did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Unlike proprietary software, open source software does not make the underlying code of a software confidential. ah security by obscurity! the number of ways it is wrong are endless! -- Doing my part to piss off the religious right. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?
On Friday 31 May 2002 12:53 pm, Kaj Haulrich did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Please forgive me for waisting your bandwidth. After about - what - half a year on the list, I'm suddenly censored out. Don't know why - to many beers and cheers maybe ? Makes me kind'a sad, though. I think this list is very unique, informative, helpful and - sometimes - amusing. i am confused, how are you censored out? -- Fundimentalism stops a thinking mind. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly OT Mandrake stock
On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 19:26, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 10:34 am, Shane wrote: On Thursday 30 May 2002 12:48 pm, Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Perhaps we need some sort of directory of such help. There must be someone here in West Yorkshire, but I've not come across him/her. if we did have a directory of such things it might look like this http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/User_Groups/ and i might be the editor there. ;) FWIW: The British magazine, LinuxFormat, has a list of UK LUG's in each issue. The March issue shows 69 LUG's. It's also available online at www.linuxformat.co.uk/links.php; another listing is at www.lug.org.uk. The West Yorkshire LUG is at www.wylug.org.uk; there are other LUG's in Huddersfield, Manchester and Blackburn. Happy hunting. LinuxFormat is also a nice mag in its own right. I bought a copy the last time I visited my motherland, and what did I find sellotaped to it but Mandrake 8.2! Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux / NSA
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Miark wrote: I'm sure the NSA could crack any PGP e-mail in a minute or two if they wanted to. Miark i'm quite sure you're correct. -- Mark a.k.a. daRcmaTTeR -- If your wife told you NOT to do it there's probably a real good reason! - REGISTERED LINUX USER #186492 Penguinized since 1997 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly OT Mandrake stock
On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 23:24, Robin wrote: On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 19:26, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 10:34 am, Shane wrote: On Thursday 30 May 2002 12:48 pm, Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Perhaps we need some sort of directory of such help. There must be someone here in West Yorkshire, but I've not come across him/her. if we did have a directory of such things it might look like this http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/User_Groups/ and i might be the editor there. ;) FWIW: The British magazine, LinuxFormat, has a list of UK LUG's in each issue. The March issue shows 69 LUG's. It's also available online at www.linuxformat.co.uk/links.php; another listing is at www.lug.org.uk. The West Yorkshire LUG is at www.wylug.org.uk; there are other LUG's in Huddersfield, Manchester and Blackburn. Happy hunting. LinuxFormat is also a nice mag in its own right. I bought a copy the last time I visited my motherland, and what did I find sellotaped to it but Mandrake 8.2! Sir Robin Totally off topic now.. but my Mozilla project Hermes gets _two_ pictures in this months Linux Format!! I'm so proud!!! -- Azrael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] no such file or directory?
On Fri, 31 May 2002 17:12:40 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: first thank,s a bunch for you guys that have help and put up with me trying to configure my linux box.I finally got time to use the advice i was given the other on configureing my internet connect in knosole root cat/etc/resolv.conf gave me no such file or directory kwrite/etc/resolv.conf the same I,m not getting the info they told me to expect at all in fact that same thing no such file Even I did not think to ask this before. Are you running a firewall on your wk2 system? If so you will need to configure it to allow your 2nd nic to act as a trusted device. The manner you do so can vary from firewall to firewall. ZoneAlarm being very simple and and BlackIce a real pain. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
DivX is not the same as the now defunct Circuit City DVD competitor wannabe Divx. DivX (also called DivX:), I believe it is) is a form of video compression. So no, you can not play your Circuit City Divx disc on Linux (or anywhere else for that matter). At least you have a nice Abyss coaster. ;) Vince On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 15:44, Miark wrote: Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: By old Divx movies.. you are referring to DivX 3.x ? I have _The_Abyss_ here. I dunno what version of Divx it is. This is the rental deal, mind you. Maybe that goes without saying. Yeah sure... afaik all players for linux that support DivX can play it well. I personally use MPlayer, which supports something like 50 different formats, including all versions of DivX (even the latest 5.something), asf, mpg and so on. It also has about 50 dependencies. I thought Xine was a pain in the ass. MPlayer is the pain-in-the-ass king of installations. There is a lot of documentation on their site and in the tarballs about how it works, so I won't waiste my time writing pages of repeated text ;-) What other players will read a divx movie rental? Miark On Fri, 31 May 2002, Miark wrote: I've been to many sites trying to figure out if these old Divx movies can be played in Linux, but I can't seem to find a straight answer. Can they, or can't they? If so, how? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly OT Mandrake stock
On Friday 31 May 2002 04:29 pm, shane wrote: On Thursday 30 May 2002 12:28 pm, Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: 9 months later some jack@ss from the district office formatted the harddrives because we don't have a license for that OS! You must have wept actually, it gets worse, they bought 30 win 98 copys to install, then found it was dog slow on those machines, bought new machines. win 98 at $65 a pop times 30 = $1950 30 new machines to run said software = $33000 being smart enough to know linux means multiple installs from one purchased cd = priceless A comment and a question: First, given the current emphasis on TCO, you haven't included the labor hours expended on this disaster. Be sure to include all of the planning meetings that were held to make sure that everything went smoothly. Second, maybe I read too much Dilbert, but did the cretin that made these decisions have pointy hair? -- cmg (splitting my sides at someone else's grief) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] where are user docs for wv?
Can anyone kill my frustration please? I have selected wv when I installed 8.2 but have not been able to find/use the docs for this. So unfortunately I cant try to configure or use the program and cant seem to get it to start. Ideally I want to be able to get netscape 4.7 to open word docs and have them readable. At the moment if I save the .doc attachment and then open in say star office I just get loads of garbage and formatting info. Any help would be gratefully received. might then be able to get the wife to dump xp. Regards Duncan Bayne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] where are user docs for wv?
wv is an application which AFAIK gets called up by other applications such as Abiword. So when you open a Word document in Abiword it will use wv to do the translation for you. However wv/Abiword does not support the more exotic Word features so do not expect documents to translate perfectly. Abiword is not on your Mandrake CD's but can be downloaded from www.rpmfind.net Checkout man wvAbw man wvHtml /usr/share/doc/wv-0.7.0/README If you want to view word documents embedded in Netscape, then I think the only way to do that is with Codeweavers crossover plugin which also gives you other cool features like streaming embedded media using Windows Media Player and Quicktime. Crossover plugin is not free, but a demo version is available at www.codeweavers.com. If you want to save the Word documents and then view them in another application then StarOffice 6.0 ought to be able to do that without 'garbage', or else use OpenOffice1.0 which is basically the same as StarOffice except its free. Are you using Staroffice 6.0, or the less capable 5.2? Openoffice (pre 1.0) is on your Mandrake CD#3 HTH derek On Friday 31 May 2002 11:39 pm, dunc wrote: Can anyone kill my frustration please? I have selected wv when I installed 8.2 but have not been able to find/use the docs for this. So unfortunately I cant try to configure or use the program and cant seem to get it to start. Ideally I want to be able to get netscape 4.7 to open word docs and have them readable. At the moment if I save the .doc attachment and then open in say star office I just get loads of garbage and formatting info. Any help would be gratefully received. might then be able to get the wife to dump xp. Regards Duncan Bayne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Strange problem with the mouse/screen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i do not recall the fix for sure, but i think you need to change the software cursor setting in the XFreeconfig. you might want to look in the archives as this was covered not long ago at all. On Friday 31 May 2002 04:05 pm, Matt Blake did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Every now and again using any windows manager - mainly gnome or kde, i get a strange problem with the mouse - it is as if the area the mouse can move in shifts 2cm to the right but the actual screen stays in the same place. So for example when i want to click on the gnome icon to go into the main menu i have to click the mouse about 2cm to the right of the actual icon. The only way to stop it is a complete reboot - which is obviously pretty annoying! - -- sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. all other sins are invented nonsense. (hurting yourself isn't sin, just stupid) -heinlein shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8+APOBwq+ZwvIN/oRAidfAJ9pk5xjM0lWAA7OXLmh/wIJYqp4eQCfRty7 01UgisKa93ww3GZrtLyVow8= =gbup -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What is openfind?
May 31, 2002 04:12 pm,Jon Doe wrote: Anyone know what openfind is? I found this is my apache logs: 66.237.60.30 - - [31/May/2002:00:09:07 -0400] GET / HTTP/1.0 200 2438 66.237.60.30 - - [31/May/2002:00:09:07 -0400] GET / HTTP/1.0 200 2438 - Openfind data gatherer, Openbot/3.0+([EMAIL PROTECTED];+http://www.openfind.com.tw /robot.html) I went to the website but its in Chinese. Just wondered if anyone had ever heard of it before. ~ A very good question! I wonder what the answer is? It seems to be a robot that's gathering statistics regarding Linux usage. How it works is a mystery but there's a lot of pages at:http://www.google.ca/linux?hl=enq=what+is+openfind.com.twmeta= If you want to read a bit more about robots/agents whatever try this link: http://www.howardsmusings.com/categories/linux/2002/04/30.html Note to self: find someone that can decipher this load of excrement and explain it to me :-) -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org If a person (a) is poorly, (b) receives treatment intended to make him better, and (c) gets better, then no power of reasoning known to medical science can convince him that it may not have been the treatment that restored his health. - Sir Peter Medawar, The Art of the Soluble Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly OT Mandrake stock
On Friday 31 May 2002 06:30 pm, you wrote: On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 23:24, Robin wrote: On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 19:26, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 10:34 am, Shane wrote: On Thursday 30 May 2002 12:48 pm, Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Perhaps we need some sort of directory of such help. There must be someone here in West Yorkshire, but I've not come across him/her. if we did have a directory of such things it might look like this http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/User_Group s/ and i might be the editor there. ;) FWIW: The British magazine, LinuxFormat, has a list of UK LUG's in each issue. The March issue shows 69 LUG's. It's also available online at www.linuxformat.co.uk/links.php; another listing is at www.lug.org.uk. The West Yorkshire LUG is at www.wylug.org.uk; there are other LUG's in Huddersfield, Manchester and Blackburn. Happy hunting. LinuxFormat is also a nice mag in its own right. I bought a copy the last time I visited my motherland, and what did I find sellotaped to it but Mandrake 8.2! Sir Robin Totally off topic now.. but my Mozilla project Hermes gets _two_ pictures in this months Linux Format!! I'm so proud!!! -- Azrael Azrael: I'll make a note to look for it when it finally shows up here -- in another two months. I just got the April issue today at the local Borders. It's an excellent read, though, and well worth reading. Most of the other Linux magazines seem to be aimed more at developers, sysadmins and other propeller heads, but LinuxFormat has a ton of material for end users. BTW, was there ever any consensus as to whether Marc should buy some Mandrake stock? -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Miark wrote: On the other hand, I bet ol' Billy is grinnin' like a chesire cat over this filth: ..the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution outlines how open source might facilitate efforts to disrupt or sabotage electronic commerce, air traffic control or even sensitive surveillance systems. Unlike proprietary software, open source software does not make the underlying code of a software confidential. 'Computer systems are the backbone to U.S. national security', says Fossedal, chairman... 'Before the Pentagon and other federal agencies make uninformed decision to alter the very foundation of computer security, they should study the potential consequences carefully.' http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/f_headline.cgi?bw.053002/221502375 Tell me Billy isn't greasing their FUD skid. Miark Miark, I smell what you're steppin, and to a small degree I agree, but on the other hand I also have the feeling that the source not being closed source only serves the computing public as to allow the software to be made even more secure. and besides...who is in who's bed? -- Mark a.k.a. daRcmaTTeR -- If your wife told you NOT to do it there's probably a real good reason! - REGISTERED LINUX USER #186492 Penguinized since 1997 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Strange problem with the mouse/screen
On Saturday 01 June 2002 01:05 am, Matt Blake wrote: Every now and again using any windows manager - mainly gnome or kde, i get a strange problem with the mouse - it is as if the area the mouse can move in shifts 2cm to the right but the actual screen stays in the same place. So for example when i want to click on the gnome icon to go into the main menu i have to click the mouse about 2cm to the right of the actual icon. The only way to stop it is a complete reboot - which is obviously pretty annoying! For various reasons i reinstalled mandrake 8.2 and the problem is the same. Does anybody have any idea why this is happening or how i can solve it? thanks for any help Matt Matt, this is a bug in some Trident chipsets, especially cyberblades. The solution is surprisingly simple : pass the option sw_cursor to the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 To do that, open a console and become root. Now, fire up a text-editor of your choice, for example type : mcedit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (without the quotes, of course). Scroll down the file until you find *Section Device*. A few stanzas down that section, remove the hash-mark (#) in front of *Option sw_cursor*. Save the file, un-root yourself and restart the X-server (or logout and in again). Done. HTH Kaj Haulrich Denmark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Instant Messengers
Jabber (see jabber.org) and it's various front ends, such as Gabber. -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras http://www.srcopan.vze.com/ On 31 May 2002 00:37:13 +0100 Matt Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know which (if any) instant messengers are compatible with MSM Messenger on Linux? Seeing as most people still use windows, it would be useful to have something that is. cheers Matt -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras http://www.srcopan.vze.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly OT Mandrake stock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 May 2002 04:39 pm, Carroll Grigsby did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: BTW, was there ever any consensus as to whether Marc should buy some Mandrake stock? well i don't know about Marc, but when my 401 rolls over i am spending half of it on Mandrake, and i don't care if i see a return. - -- Fundimentalism stops a thinking mind. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8+BhkBwq+ZwvIN/oRAsfdAJ90dkp9ADG3qDLZMJaaRZikh4x98gCdHMll s6K6CxZFeAVpdM2A/xRFplo= =9Az3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 May 2002 01:39 pm, Kaj Haulrich did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Two days ago I posted a question of my own, concerning spam. Maybe that's the reason ? - Maybe the list has some filter who react to the phrase spam ? interestingly i forwarded (to this list) the message you sent me that never showed. my forward failed to appear too. ...bad message! go to /dev/null! - -- Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8+BoNBwq+ZwvIN/oRApQxAJ9iOVNyepV93fMFVbtyz/ApZm/KNQCeO+xl Kc1Ted+V5Oekjf7q5C3PxmQ= =3xuJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly OT Mandrake stock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 May 2002 03:37 pm, Carroll Grigsby did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: First, given the current emphasis on TCO, you haven't included the labor hours expended on this disaster. Be sure to include all of the planning meetings that were held to make sure that everything went smoothly. Second, maybe I read too much Dilbert, but did the cretin that made these decisions have pointy hair? -- cmg (splitting my sides at someone else's grief) go ahead, laugh at my pain... :P and no the cretin involved is bald, but still a PHB. - -- The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place. -DOUGLAS ADAMS, Author shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8+BruBwq+ZwvIN/oRAvsMAJ9W4HB2wht9bQ5maxAVveZ06NEPIQCdGex4 10Tx79mLuxk45RxiCpKLnao= =M7WN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unreal
daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Thu, 30 May 2002, s wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 12:00 am, D. Olson wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 12:17 am, you wrote: It is the Loki release for Linux, right? If so, then grab it. Works great with my Geforce here No, someone hacked the UT installer and made it so you can use Unreal in Linux now too. I am told at MUB that it is really cool, so I am looking to get it now. Its a wonderful game though, and worth the effort to get it setup... ;-) I have a tutorial on installing UT on my site. Hi s, since I haven't been able to get Quake running in Linux yet I don't really have anything to compare it to. :( I have noticed though that there are a few bugs in the Linux version of UT that don't exist in the windows version. for some reason if I use two directional keys at the same time as I'm often used to doing to move forward and sideways at the same time the strafe left or strafe right actually get stuck in the game and at tmes it's not easy to get unstuck. this normally results in my character getting fraged. Once my characters guts are all over the wall though the game straightens out. I've also noticed a difference in the mouse behavior. It seems to take more travel to achieve the same results as compared to windows game play. any thoughts or comments? -- Mark a.k.a. daRcmaTTeR -- For windows there were patches released to get rid of these bugs. Try to see if its the same for Linux. As for the mouse hm...if its like Q3, you might try setting your mouse speed in the game higher. -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NSA / PGP
On Fri, 31 May 2002, shane wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 11:26 am, daRcmaTTeR did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: On Fri, 31 May 2002, Miark wrote: I'm sure the NSA could crack any PGP e-mail in a minute or two if they wanted to. Miark i'm quite sure you're correct. i doubt that. it is simply a matter of raw math. http://senderek.de/security/secret-key.protection.html in short if they had a super computer than can only be imagined today (not built) it would take hundreds of years to guess a key. or to quote another page: To recover a particular (128 bit) key, one must, on average, search half the keyspace. That is 127 bits: 170,141,183,460,469,231,731,687,303715,884,105,728. If you had 1,000,000,000 machines that could try 1,000,000,000 keys/sec, it would still take all these machines longer than the universe as we know it has existed and then some, to find the key. IDEA, as far as present technology is concerned, is not vulnerable to brute-force attack, pure and simple. the key size i use (again only once in awhile, but i use it) will take 300,000,000,000,000,000,000 MIPS-years to factor. let them break that in 2-3 minutes. as for backdoors, do you think they could do that to an open source project? nobody would notice? nah. good point shane! I feel better now. -- Mark a.k.a. daRcmaTTeR -- If your wife told you NOT to do it there's probably a real good reason! - REGISTERED LINUX USER #186492 Penguinized since 1997 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lock up/ Shut off all internet capability?
db wrote: For reasons to long to describe, I must run Redhat 5.2 as one boot along with Mandrake 8.2 on another. When the machine is booted to Redhat 5.2 there is no need for network connectivity and I am worried about it getting hacked. Making it secure with a firewall/etc would probably be difficult in any case and since I can't depend on people to unplug the machine at that point, I would like to lock up /shut off 5.2's network connectivity without having to reinstall it. Can anyone tell me how? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, you should have SysVinit available in RH 5.2 Call it up in graphical mode and shutdown network. If you really need sockets as in KDE or GNOME which I do not believe were available in RH 5.2, then open it, but set local only--in other words, put ifdown eth0 (and any other network interfaces except lo) in the script /etc/rc.d/rc.local Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux / NSA
Miark wrote: I'm sure the NSA could crack any PGP e-mail in a minute or two if they wanted to. Miark shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: On Friday 31 May 2002 09:47 am, Tony S. Sykes did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: My guess is, the more secure the desktops the better, but your email messages are ours for the taking. behold the magic of pgp! :) i rarely use it, but it is nice to have when it makes you feel safe -- Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies. shane Heh, i've followed teh Intelligence community for years now. YEs they can crack PGP but they can't crack it if the encryption alogrithm is high enough. Say... 1024? :) The estimate (From an Intelligence source no less) says it will take about 40 years to crack that. Course encrypting would take a while too. But you can do it. Use DESA. They can't crack that I think its builtin to PGP. -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What is openfind?
Charlie wrote:
May 31, 2002 04:12 pm,Jon Doe wrote:
Anyone know what openfind is? I found this is my apache logs:
66.237.60.30 - - [31/May/2002:00:09:07 -0400] GET / HTTP/1.0 200 2438
66.237.60.30 - - [31/May/2002:00:09:07 -0400] GET / HTTP/1.0 200 2438
- Openfind data gatherer,
Openbot/3.0+([EMAIL PROTECTED];+http://www.openfind.com.tw
/robot.html)
I went to the website but its in Chinese.
Just wondered if anyone had ever heard of it before.
~
A very good question! I wonder what the answer is?
It seems to be a robot that's gathering statistics regarding Linux usage. How
it works is a mystery but there's a lot of pages
at:http://www.google.ca/linux?hl=enq=what+is+openfind.com.twmeta=
found these websites
http://home.sina.com.hk/service/about/press/article45.html
http://www.commercenet.org.tw/EN/News/Content.asp?NewsID=558
Maybe someone can decipher what these are???
found this java script:
language=JavaScript script
!--
function OpenfindSubmit(thisForm)
{
if (thisForm.query.value == ) {
alert(½Ð¥ý¿é¤J±ý¬d¸ssªº¦r¦ê¡I);
thisForm.query.focus();
return false;
} else {
if (thisForm.ServiceID.selectedIndex == 1) {//
powerplant Web PAGE search
thisForm.action = http://www.openfind.com.tw/cgi
bin/tw/webquery;
} else if (thisForm.ServiceID.selectedIndex == 2)
{// WNS search
thisForm.action =
http://se1.openfind.com.tw/cgi-bin/URL/wns;;
} else if (thisForm.ServiceID.selectedIndex == 3)
{// powerplant BBS search
thisForm.action = http://bbs.openfind.com.tw/cgi
bin/qsearch;
thisForm.QUERY.value = thisForm.query.value;
} else if (thisForm.ServiceID.selectedIndex == 4)
{// powerplant News search
thisForm.action =
http://news.openfind.com.tw/cgi
bin/WebNews/iwn;
} else if (thisForm.ServiceID.selectedIndex == 5)
{// image search
thisForm.type.value = image;
thisForm.action = http://mms.openfind.com.tw/cgi
bin/MMS/ecgi;
} else if (thisForm.ServiceID.selectedIndex == 6)
{// audio search
thisForm.type.value = audio;
thisForm.action = http://mms.openfind.com.tw/cgi
bin/MMS/ecgi;
} else if (thisForm.ServiceID.selectedIndex == 7)
{// software search
thisForm.type.value = software;
thisForm.action = http://mms.openfind.com.tw/cgi
bin/MMS/ecgi;
} else if (thisForm.ServiceID.selectedIndex == 8)
{// Literature search
thisForm.type.value = literature;
thisForm.action = http://mms.openfind.com.tw/cgi
bin/MMS/ecgi;
} else {// default, powerplant CD search
thisForm.action = http://cd.openfind.com.tw/cgi
bin/CD/SearchCd.exe;
thisForm.Query.value = thisForm.query.value;
}
return true;
}
}
//--
script/
TABLE cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 of
align=center border=0
TR
FORM name=Openfind onsubmit=return
OpenfindSubmit(this) method=get
INPUTS type=hidden name=Function value=search
INPUTS type=hidden name=redirect value=ON
INPUTS type=hidden name=type value=image
INPUTS type=hidden name=Query
INPUTS type=hidden name=QUERY
TD
A HREF=http://www.openfind.com.tw/;IMG
src=http://www.openfind.com.tw/images/logo_s.gif
alt=Openfind border=0 width=100
height=30/A
/TD
TD more valign=center align=middle
INPUT size=24 name=query
SELECT name=ServiceID
OPTION value=0 selected¤ÀÃþ/OPTION
OPTION value=1ºô¶/OPTION
OPTION value=2ºô§}/OPTION
OPTION value=3BBS/OPTION
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Re: [newbie] NSA / PGP
daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2002, shane wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 11:26 am, daRcmaTTeR did speak unto the huddled i'm quite sure you're correct. i doubt that. it is simply a matter of raw math. http://senderek.de/security/secret-key.protection.html in short if they had a super computer than can only be imagined today (not built) it would take hundreds of years to guess a key. or to quote another page: To recover a particular (128 bit) key, one must, on average, search half the keyspace. That is 127 bits: 170,141,183,460,469,231,731,687,303715,884,105,728. If you had 1,000,000,000 machines that could try 1,000,000,000 keys/sec, it would still take all these machines longer than the universe as we know it has existed and then some, to find the key. IDEA, as far as present technology is concerned, is not vulnerable to brute-force attack, pure and simple. the key size i use (again only once in awhile, but i use it) will take 300,000,000,000,000,000,000 MIPS-years to factor. let them break that in 2-3 minutes. as for backdoors, do you think they could do that to an open source project? nobody would notice? nah. good point shane! I feel better now. -- Mark a.k.a. daRcmaTTeR -- Figures I made my own post before I saw this... i said DESA, I mean IDEA. Heh, sorry ;p -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?
Kaj Haulrich wrote: Hi all - Please forgive me for waisting your bandwidth. After about - what - half a year on the list, I'm suddenly censored out. Don't know why - to many beers and cheers maybe ? Makes me kind'a sad, though. I think this list is very unique, informative, helpful and - sometimes - amusing. So : if this mail infects your screen, send it to /dev/null. Then I'll be happy again ! Regards Kaj Haulrich Denmark well i got this email. Don't know what you're talking about though. -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Instant Messengers
Warren Post wrote: Jabber (see jabber.org) and it's various front ends, such as Gabber. -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras http://www.srcopan.vze.com/ On 31 May 2002 00:37:13 +0100 Matt Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know which (if any) instant messengers are compatible with MSM Messenger on Linux? Seeing as most people still use windows, it would be useful to have something that is. also there is kmsn works great try here http://linux.sarang.net/ftp/mirror/desktop/kdeapps/Communications/Instant_Messenging/KMerlin/ or kmerlin http://kmerlin.olsd.de/ mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] where are user docs for wv?
dunc wrote: Can anyone kill my frustration please? I have selected wv when I installed 8.2 but have not been able to find/use the docs for this. So unfortunately I cant try to configure or use the program and cant seem to get it to start. Ideally I want to be able to get netscape 4.7 to open word docs and have them readable. At the moment if I save the .doc attachment and then open in say star office I just get loads of garbage and formatting info. Any help would be gratefully received. might then be able to get the wife to dump xp. Regards Duncan Bayne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com man wvdial man wvdial.conf man wvdialconf Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] no such file or directory?
Thank,s Charles yes I do have a firewall but not worried about the win2k system took it down to try connect after not getting the pop up to set up a port was worried about the Mandrake box didn,t figure out how to turn it off it is set on standard .I,ve got a book for 8.1 comeing tomorrow afternoon can,t wait between time shortage ,bother you guys, reading help doc,s this has been a pain can,t understand why everthing configured so easy until I got to the cable. - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] no such file or directory? On Fri, 31 May 2002 17:12:40 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: first thank,s a bunch for you guys that have help and put up with me trying to configure my linux box.I finally got time to use the advice i was given the other on configureing my internet connect in knosole root cat/etc/resolv.conf gave me no such file or directory kwrite/etc/resolv.conf the same I,m not getting the info they told me to expect at all in fact that same thing no such file Even I did not think to ask this before. Are you running a firewall on your wk2 system? If so you will need to configure it to allow your 2nd nic to act as a trusted device. The manner you do so can vary from firewall to firewall. ZoneAlarm being very simple and and BlackIce a real pain. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Announcement: UnitedLinux / NSA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 May 2002 06:03 pm, FemmeFatale did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Heh, i've followed teh Intelligence community for years now. YEs they can crack PGP but they can't crack it if the encryption alogrithm is high enough. Say... 1024? :) 1024? you want me to use weak encryption? ;P - -- Microsoft: Writing viruses has never been easier! shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8+CMzBwq+ZwvIN/oRAgHWAJ96h3l5BAyhYTMQPggmNCnIMrszFQCdHvKc +MDKF+b5U5ehlEUtJuXASJA= =BWpO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What is openfind?
On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 08:04:56 -0500 mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found these websites http://home.sina.com.hk/service/about/press/article45.html LOL, highest quality Chinese websites? My site is 100% english. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
