Re: [newbie] Perl
On Mon, 2002-02-18 at 05:54, Tonton wrote: How do I use perl programming language in linux? In a console, 'man perl' (without the quotes). I know this is a newbie list, but don't people even bother reading documentation anymore? Even a Windows user should know enough to check the readme's... Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] CHanging WindowManager
On Sun, 2002-02-17 at 11:38, JSheble wrote: Just out of curiosity I thought I'd take a look at some of the other WindowManagers that come with LM8.1. I did not originally install them when I installed LM though. So using the Software Manager in the Mandrake Control Center I installed Blackbox. Now however, I'm completely unsudre how to change my default WindowManager when I start an X session. I type startx, and it goes into Gnome. I tried typing startx blackbox but I got the twm manager running installed. When I try typing startblackbox, blackbox or exec blackbox I get the following messages: I think the actual name of the BlackBox program is bb, so you need to either do startx bb, or put exec bb in your .xinitrc file. Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Running slow.
On Thu, 2002-02-14 at 21:50, Jeffrey Madore wrote: Greetings: I recently installed Mandrake 8.1 on my son's machine which consists of a 120Mhz processor and 84meg of ram. It now operates deadly slow. My understanding has been that one advantage of linux is that it runs fine on older equipment ; that it doesn't require the horsepower, so to speak, that other OS's like windows does. Prior to installing Linux on my son's machine he was running windows 95. That moved right along. He likes linux but it is dreadfully slow. I am running a celeron @ 700Mhz with 512 Meg of ram. The speed is much better but still slower than windows ME, which I migrated from. As others have mentioned, KDE (and Gnome) can be a real resource hog. It's not that they are necessarily bloated, but they have a lot of functionality and eye candy that just uses power. Basically, these desktop environments are designed to be run on modern hardware. Using lighter window managers like BlackBox, XFCE, etc. will definitely help. The lightest wm is probably twm, but it is so ugly in its default setup that it will likely make your eyes bleed upon first viewing. Another thing to keep in mind is hardware driver support, especially for X. I have found that if I can find an optimal X server (approximately equivalent to a video driver) for my systems, they perform much better than using the generic super vga 1024x768 X server. In fact, I would say performance/speed doubles or even triples with a good X server. Yet another issue can be if you have too many unnecessary services (especially network services, but possibly others) running. Use Mandrake Control Center to look at boot-time services, and determine which ones you really need and which ones you don't. Then, stop them on the spot and disable them from running at boot-up. I actually used to run RedHat 5.1 on an old 486 (100 MHz, so it was a fast 486) with 16 MB RAM. Using an older version of X (3.3.6 I think) and the AfterStep window manager, it was quite peppy -- wy faster than the Win95 that was installed when I got it. But that was an older distribution, *designed for older hardware* (at the time, the two would have been somewhat concurrent, so it wasn't really old hardware when RH 5.1 came out). If you really want to run Linux on that old box, try finding an older distribution releasr, like Mandrake 7.x or even an older RedHat 5.x release. You will notice a BIG difference. Finally, I've said this before and I'll say it again. The *anecdotal* evidence for Linux running faster than Windows is primarily taken from server performance, where Linux is run with no GUI (no X Windows) at all. If you take out X Windows, even an old 486 with 16 MB RAM will fly under Linux. In fact, my church uses a Pentium 166 with 256 MB RAM for a Linux Samba server (and a few other network services), and it runs great. I wouldn't even *think* of putting Windows NT on that old beast! Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Running slow.
On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 08:16, Dave Sherman wrote: I actually used to run RedHat 5.1 on an old 486 (100 MHz, so it was a fast 486) with 16 MB RAM. Using an older version of X (3.3.6 I think) and the AfterStep window manager, it was quite peppy -- wy faster than the Win95 that was installed when I got it. But that was an older distribution, *designed for older hardware* (at the time, the two would have been somewhat concurrent, so it wasn't really old hardware when RH 5.1 came out). If you really want to run Linux on that old box, try finding an older distribution releasr, like Mandrake 7.x or even an older RedHat 5.x release. You will notice a BIG difference. FYI, I still have my old RedHat 5.1, RedHat 6.2, and Mandrake 7.2 CDs. I could burn copies of one or more versions and ship them to you if you want. Let me know. Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Host access
On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 10:52, JSheble wrote: Couldn't I add the sshd service to the xinetd or inetd config files to open and start those services, thus forcing access rules in hosts.* files to be enforced? Yes, as long as the server is fairly low-traffic (which it sounds like it will be, since you are limiting access to only two hosts/IP addresses). Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Memory(Again)
On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 10:41, Marcia wrote: Dear All, Thanks very much for your input and suggestions. Since memory is inexpensive right now I am leaning towards increasing it. I have a program that asks for 256 megs of ram. It is a SAP program. My hard drive is new anyway and it is possible I may decide to upgrade the cpu in the future. I found old receipts for the memory modules on my system and it is using 2 EPS-RM716E72pin EDO memory module 16 MB and 2 EPS-RM732EDRAM 32MB SIMM MODULE EDO. I did find a supplier for the 72 pin ED O Simms modules. Does this mean I need to buy 2 or 4 of those and do they all need to be the Simms modules? Your help will be greatly appreciated here, because I will order these right away if I can find the right ones. You will find that as long as it is 72-pin (SIMM) EDO, it should work fine. SIMM modules came in a couple of types, 30-pin and 72-pin. Your are both 72-pin SIMMs. As far as I know, EDO was/is only available in the 72-pin variety (and not the 30-pin), so you should be safe. By the way, is it difficult to upgrade the cpu? What is the best to upgrade it to? CPUs are easy to upgrade, *as long as your motherboard will support the increased speed*. You just unlatch and lift a single lever to loosen the CPU in its socket, pull it out, drop in the new one and push the lever back down into its latch. You will probably also need to remove the heat sink on top of the CPU, but that is usually also a pretty easy thing. As an example, my first Win95 PC had a Pentium 120MHz CPU running on a 60MHz front-side bus (FSB) with a 2x clock multiplier. If you don't see the relationship, notice that 60 x 2 = 120. Therefore, the CPU speed in MHz (megahertz) is always a product of the front-side bus multiplied by the clock speed multiplier. I later looked at the motherboard specs, and found that I could increase the FSB from 60 to 66 MHz, which would effectively also give me a 133MHz CPU speed (66 x 2 = 132, but in fact the 66MHz was really 66...., so it comes out to 133 when doubled). Even later, I also noticed that I could increase the clock multiplier from 2 to 2.5 or even 3! This would give me yet another speed boost, from 133MHz to 166 (66 x 2.5) or 200MHz (66 x 3). I tried to change it with my current CPU, but the CPU itself couldn't handle that clock speed, and refused to boot. I then purchased a 200MHz Pentium, popped it into my motherboard, and whee! I had my 200MHz system running perfectly. Now, noticing that you are running a 200MHz CPU already, you will need to check your motherboard specs (often available from the PC manufacturer) to see if it can handle a higher clock multiplier and/or higher front-side bus speed. Chances are pretty good it will *not* be able to handle a faster FSB, but it *will* take a higher clock multiplier. Assuming this is the case, and that your clock multiplier is 3x, then if you can get it to 3.5x or 4x you should be able to handle a Pentium 233 or 266MHz CPU. I think 266MHz was the fastest Pentium that Intel made, but it is possible they came out with a 300 or even 333. I know the Pentium II CPUs started at 233 and went up from there, I just don't remember how much crossover there was in the speed (MHz) ratings between the original Pentium and the Pentium II. Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Host access
On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 11:49, JSheble wrote: thanx... you were a tremendous help... I guess I need to figure out the xinetd.conf file since I don't seem to have indetd running... I'd offer to help, but my xinetd experience is practically zero. I have used inetd, but they are quite different from what I have seen. Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Which Services to Keep/Stop ?
On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 13:23, Hanan Z. Shargi wrote: Hi All, Every once in a while somebody recommends that Services that aren't used should be stopped ... ever since I started using Linux, everytime I'm asked during the installation: should I start these services at startup? ... I say YES :-) would someone please explicitly state WHICH services should run in a normal pc (notebook here ) one that is connected to the internet through DSL and doing usual games.., net browsing, text editing stuff ?? AND/OR refer us to a good document to read about services and what they do. In Mandrake Control Center, under System - Services, you see a listing of what services are run at bootup. This list is essentially the same as the files in /etc/rc5.d/, if your system boots into X, which Mandrake defaults to and probably most Mandrake users prefer. I run an IBM ThinkPad i1500, and here is my /etc/rc5.d listing: ./ S11internet@ S56rawdevices@ S77Win4Lin@ S95kheader@ ../ S12syslog@S60cups@S85gpm@ S99local@ S08ipvsadm@ S20random@S70alsa@S90crond@ S09pcmcia@ S26apmd@ S71sound@ S90xfs@ S10network@ S55ntpd@ S75keytable@S95anacron@ (ignore the preceding numbers and following '@' symbols and just look at the service names). I also have DSL at home (through my home LAN), and I need network/LAN connectivity at my clients' offices, so I have a PCMCIA network card. I only use Samba client to connect to other computers, but I do not share anything on my own drive (as a server), so it is not listed here. I do not provide any server-type services like http, ftp, smtp, etc. Some people set up Sendmail or Postfix to run on their workstations so they can send email directly, but I have no need for this and it can be a security hole if you don't know how to configure it properly. Notice that I have Win4Lin. This allows me to run Windows 98SE as an application under Linux, for the few Windows applications which I still need to use. Win4Lin requires its own kernel-based service to work. Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Fragmentation of filesystem
On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 17:02, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Hello list ! Now, of course, they asked me : how often do you do this defrag-thing ? My answer : Never, 'cause I don't have to : I use linux on my desktop and OS/2 on my laptop ! And here's my very unimportant question to you : was I lying ? Nope, you were correct. Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Linux on an NT network - and more
On Wed, 2002-02-13 at 07:27, George Pitcher wrote: Hi all, This is my first post. I have Mandrake 7.0 installed on my 'docked' Dell laptop. I want to be able to print via ethernet to either of my network printers. Ethernet is working as I internet access and Apache is serving up the basic fare (so far). Can anyone tell me what I need to do (in plain English please) to get either of these printers to work for me (HP LJ4MV[Postscript] and Apple 12/640PS Duplex)? Are these true network printers with their own IP address, or are they simple shared printers attached to a PC? Either way, Mandrake has Printer Setup tools to do the job, you just need to know what type of network printer you are setting up. Also, The Mandrake was grabed from a May 2000 Mag CD (PC Plus - UK). Is there any advantage in downloading the v8.2 ISOs and starting all over again or will this do me fine? My main aim is to have a LAMP setup with PHP. If your hardware can handle it, I would definitely recommend the upgrade to 8.1. Since 8.2 is still beta, you might want to wait a bit for that. I am running 8.1 on my IBM ThinkPad (laptop). Specs: 366MHz Celeron, 256MB RAM, 4.5GB HD, and using ReiserFS. It is quick and stable, much more than I can say for the Win98 which was originally on the box. Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Linux on an NT network - and more
On Wed, 2002-02-13 at 08:22, George Pitcher wrote: They are 'shared' printers without ip addresses, so please advise on how to activate them. You will need to set up your printers as Samba (or SMB) printers, where Samba is the application that allows your system to talk to Windows PCs and servers via Network Neighborhood. Personally, I use a GUI tool called KUPS to setup my wife's shared printer on my Linux laptop. It's a KDE app, and it works great. Nore that for older versions of Mandrake (and KDE), Kups may look different than I describe, or may not exist at all! But hopefully it will be there for you... Launch Kups, and if you don't get a wizard automatically, then click the Printer menu, then Add Printer. The wizard will launch. Click Next to move to step 1. Choose SMB (Windows shared printer), and click Next. If you need to enter a user name and/or password, do so. For my wife's Win98 desktop, we have no password set for her shared printer, so I just checked the Guest Account box. Click Next. You will be prompted to choose a network printer. Click the Scan Network button, and it should detect the workgroup you are in. Click the plus (+) next to the workgroup, then double-click the computer that is sharing the printer. The correct printer should appear, and if you click that printer, the text boxes for Workgroup, Server, and Printer will be automagically filled in. Click Next. Kups will build a driver database if it can then you will be prompted to choose a manufacturer and printer model. Do so, then click Next. You will now be given the option to print a test page, and configure printer settings like default page size, etc. Do whatever you need to, then click Next. Choose whether you want any banners to be included with each printed page. Most people don't want anything. Click Next. Now you get to choose a printer name, and add any comments like location and description. Do this, and click Next. Finally, you are asked to confirm all your choices. Make sure everything looks ok, then click OK. You will be prompted for the root password. Your printer will now appear in the main Kups window, and you can use this program to monitor print jobs, watch the print queue, change default print settings, etc. Congratulations! You have a shared network printer setup. I am running 8.1 on my IBM ThinkPad (laptop). Specs: 366MHz Celeron, 256MB RAM, 4.5GB HD, and using ReiserFS. It is quick and stable, much more than I can say for the Win98 which was originally on the box. The Dell has a 366P2 chip with 128Mb RAM and a 6Gb HD. I'm coming from Mac (unstable) and WinNT (v stable) environments towards Win2K and Linux at the same time (new laptop). It sounds like your system should handle Mandrake 8.1 just fine. If you upgrade your RAM to 256, you will definitely be good to go. I should mention that I use Gnome for my desktop (not the default KDE) -- in my experience, Gnome is faster and more stable than KDE. As always, Your Mileage May Vary. If you use a lightweight window manager like BlackBox or IceWM, you will find your system even more responsive. I am telling you this because if you use Gnome or KDE with 128 MB RAM, you may find it a bit sluggish. Hard to say for sure, but it is possible. Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] redhat programs on mandrake
On Tue, 2002-02-12 at 11:31, Stojs wrote: can you run linux programs for redhat on mandrake? Thanks in advance, Stojs Generally speaking, yes. RedHat compiles their RPMs for a lower CPU platform (i386 instead of i586), and occasionally RedHat's filesystem layout is different enough from Mandrake to cause a program to give errors, but these are rare enough and easily fixed that you should have no major problems. And most of the time (in my experience -- YMMV), RedHat RPMs just install and go! Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Samba
On Tue, 2002-02-12 at 10:55, Paul Kraus wrote: i start the demon. I can smbclient -L any windows pc on the network. I can see my machine in all the windows network neighborhoods. But when I try to attch from anywhere I am rejected. When I even try to do an smbclient -L mymachine name as root I get this message. added interface ip=192.168.254.100 bcast=192.168.254.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 added interface ip=192.168.157.1 Bcast = 192.168.157.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 added interface ip = 175.16.17.1 bcast=172.16.17.255 nmask 255.255.255.0 Got a positve name query response from 192.168.254.1 (192.168.254.100) error connecting to 192.168.254.100:139 (connection refused) Connection to my machine failed This looks like you don't have Samba users set up yet. Samba has its own /etc/smbusers and /etc/smbpasswd files to authenticate users and passwords over the network. For small networks, you generally don't need to worry about the smbusers file, but the smbpasswd file is always used. To create Samba users, run the following command as root: # smbpasswd -a username When you press Enter, you will be prompted to enter a password for the named user, twice. The user name and password should match the Windows user name and password when they login to their desktop. It is not necessary to match Windows user accounts to actual Linux user accounts in Samba, though it might make things easier to administer for you. Also, if you DO use actual Linux user accounts, then any time a user opens Network Neighborhood to view the server, they will automatically have a share created from their home directory (based on the [homes] section of smb.conf). Also see my comments below... # Share Definitions == [homes] comment = Home Directories browseable = yes writable = no So when a user logs in, their Linux home directory is read-only. You might want to change this, unless you have a good reason. Remember, the home share is created on the fly for each user, and is not visible to other users. That is to say, when I login to my laptop as dave and open Net Neighborhood, I see a Public share and a Dave share on my Samba server. My wife sees a Public share and a Carrie share. We do not see each other's home shares, only our own. # This one is useful for people to share files [tmp] comment = Temporary file space path = /home/paul/share read only = no public = yes This is a good one. Remember to set the directory permissions on share/ to 777, otherwise Samba won't really be able to use it properly. Also, notice that writable=no is the *same* as read only=yes, and vise versa. # A publicly accessible directory, but read only, except for people in # the staff group [public] comment = Public Stuff path = /home/pdk/share public = yes writable = yes write list = @staff Another good one, with an entire user group (taken from the /etc/groups file) given permission to the share. Again, remember to set proper directory permissions. # a service which has a different directory for each machine that connects # this allows you to tailor configurations to incoming machines. You could # also use the %u option to tailor it by user name. # The %m gets replaced with the machine name that is connecting. [pchome] comment = PC Directories path = /usr/pc/%m public = no writable = yes Does this one exist on your system, or is it a relic of the sample smb.conf file? Personally, I would never put a share in /usr. Move it to /home instead. # The following two entries demonstrate how to share a directory so that two # users can place files there that will be owned by the specific users. In this # setup, the directory should be writable by both users and should have the # sticky bit set on it to prevent abuse. Obviously this could be extended to # as many users as required. [myshare] comment = Mary's and Fred's stuff path = /usr/somewhere/shared valid users = mary fred public = no writable = yes printable = no # create mask = 0765 I *know* this one is a relic from the sample file. However, it shoes a good example of the creation mask to automatically set permissions on all files created in this share, so others can access them as well. Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] RaiserFS or Linux partition
On Sat, 2002-02-09 at 02:43, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: I wanted to go with ReiserFS originally for the software root-raid configuration that I have on my system, but I was shocked to discover that the FS did not support filesystems less than 32 meg in size. Just out of curiosity, why would you want a partition less than 32MB anyway? My laptop has a small hard drive (4.5 GB), and even trying to save space on it, I still made the /boot partition 39 MB. I think mmost people set /boot to 50 MB or so, and that's generally the smallest partition on a Linux filesystem. Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Operating Systems and Ram
On Thu, 2002-02-07 at 08:46, Randy Kramer wrote: Linux has some problems. To get the performance of IE5 and Word97 on Win95 with 48 MB and a 233 MHz processor, I needed 256 MB on a 700 MHz processor (running Konqueror, primarily). (I run AbiWord on Windows, when I'm not running Word97.) You are not making a fair comparison. If you were running KDE 1.0 or 1.1, then that would be about the same as Win95 (both were written for the same level of hardware performance, at around the same time frame), and you would see a great performance improvement. The real issue is KDE 2.x, which is a known resource hog -- but then, so are WinME and Win2k and WinXP. And again, these are more accurate comparisons, since they were all developed for similar hardware performance at around the same time period. If you run a lighter window manager (with no desktop environment) you will get much better performance than the current MS counterparts. The other thing to keep in mind is that with MS apps like IE and Office, they are so tightly integrated into the OS itself that loading and running them is much more efficient that loading/running non-MS apps like Netscape or StarOffice in Windows. Heck, most of the components required by Office and IE are already loaded and running in the OS itself! This is also why Wine has such difficulty trying to make those apps run. MSOffice will *never* run (so the Wine developers say) for the above reasons, but I think they might have IE working ... I can't say for sure, though. Linux will get there one day, and is already there at the server level. The advantage of Linux is that it provides competition for Microsoft, which is why I'm sticking with it -- trying to learn more, improve it (if I can), and support it. As a mater of fact, most of the anecdotal evidence about Linux out-performing WIndows has to do with non-GUI linux servers vs. WinNT Server and its built-in (and non-removable) GUI. Also, older versions of KDE (1.x, 1.1.x) did perform quite quickly in comparison to their contemporary Win95 and Win98 counterparts. I think it is in the best interests of all of us to push for viable competition to Microsoft. Agreed. Choice is always a benefit to the consumer/user. It is unfortunate that some people feel mislead (myself included) by the promises that we thought we heard about Linux. I want to be careful about what I say about Linux -- I'd rather have somebody be pleasantly surprised than unpleasantly surprised. It's too bad you feel that way, but like I said above, you need to make fair comparisons. Windows 95 was written and optimized for late 486 and early Pentium systems with 4 to 8 MB RAM. Of course it's going to fly on a Pentium 233 with 48 MB RAM. Early versions of KDE were optimized for the same hardware, and generally did outperform their Windows counterparts. And again, running a lighter window manager like Sawfish or Blackbox or Windowmaker will also speed things up. Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.1, VMWare and Networking
On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 06:27, Greg Smith wrote: I would like to attach to a network share on a MSWindows machine. I'm stumped!! Even just a referral as to where I can read up on this. I have found lots of info on Samba and how to connect to a Linux share from an MSWindows machine, but not the other way. Greg First off, you need to make sure you have the samba-client package installed. Here's what my laptop reports: [dave@dedannshae dave]$ rpm -qa|grep samba samba-common-2.2.2-3.2mdk samba-client-2.2.2-3.2mdk [dave@dedannshae dave]$ Notice that I do not have the samba-server package installed. I don't share anything on my laptop, I just take from other shares :-) Once you know you've got the necessary packages installed, you can use the command-line samba client like this: [dave@dedannshae dave]$ smbclient -L numidea added interface ip=10.0.0.93 bcast=10.0.0.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 Password: Sharename Type Comment - --- PRINTER$ Disk HPDJ400Printer HOME Disk IPC$ IPC Remote Inter Process Communication Server Comment ---- WorkgroupMaster ---- [dave@dedannshae dave]$ to get a list of available shares on a computer named numidea. I see that there is a HOME share, so I can mount it like this: [dave@dedannshae dave]$ smbmount //numidea/home mnt/numidea/home/ Password: [dave@dedannshae dave]$ This assumes I have a mnt/ directory in my home directory, with numidea/home/ as further subdirectories of mnt/. There are also several GUI clients which make this much prettier (but, IMO, not any easier). However, I generally mount the share from the command line, then simply use Nautilus to browse to the directory and do what I need to do. Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] KDE and Gnome
On Wed, 2002-02-06 at 06:55, Walter Logeman wrote: I have evolution open in KDE. However i have a problem. on my 1600 x 1200 screen all the gnome aps fonts are too small and i cant change them. It seems they are set in another program sawfish? Use Gnome Control Center (gnomecc) to set your fonts and font sizes for Gnome apps. You can run GnomeCC in KDE, no problem. Am I the only one on the list who uses Gnome? It looks like everyone responding to this thread is running KDE. Personally, I have found that Gnome (with the Sawfish WM) is far more configurable, performs better, and looks better than KDE. Evolution is my mail client, and Nautilus my GUI file manager (on the rare occasion I want one). Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] KDE and Gnome
On Wed, 2002-02-06 at 10:24, Walter Logeman wrote: Use Gnome Control Center (gnomecc) to set your fonts and font sizes for Gnome apps. You can run GnomeCC in KDE, no problem. Have been trying this for a while but there are problems. Using Mandrake 8.1 and KDE 2.2.1 Gnome control center 1.4.0.1 On the occasions it has not crashed it has changed settings in my KDE desktop. But now it crashes. Usually when i am looking for somewhere to change the fonts - sawfish or appearances etc. on the first line in the tree it says: MISSINGNAME perhaps that is the problem. Does it as user and su. Yes, the *MISSINGNAME* entry does appear to be a bug -- I have it too, and I just ignore it. The important parts you want to change are: 1. Document Handlers - HTML Viewer. This is what affect how Evolution and Galeon render font sizes. Galeon also has its own settings, but they are based on the ones here. 2. Sawfish - Appearance. The font selection here is really for the Sawfish window manager, which you aren't using when running KDE. But it might help nonetheless. Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Am I being hacked?
On Sun, 2002-02-03 at 13:33, Todd Slater wrote: On Sunday 03 February 2002 09:08 am, ed tharp wrote: this is code red or nimda worms (or some worm close to it) and the solution is to run linux. then, if you care, block the IP sending the requests. since you don't run IIS, you will not have a problem other than the bandwidth used by the rouge windox. you could try and figure out the admin e-mainl of the send (requester) and send them an e-mail letting them know they or dumd for using M$ on the net, and what they are doing. (since they most likely got no clue,) Thanks to the many who responded. I e-mailed the ISPs, the offending IPs were mostly part of RoadRunner. I got canned e-mails from them, ATT Broadband, and rogers@home saying they were aware of the problem and working diligently to correct it, that I should get the latest patches blah blah. Anyway, it was suggested that I add the IP numbers to my hosts.deny file. Is this as easy as adding a line: ALL: 24.160.49.154, 24.123.54.138 There was way too much info in the man page! Sorry, Todd, my advice about the hosts.deny file was incorrect. That file is only used by inetd and the services it controls. Since Apache runs on its own, and is not controlled by inetd, the hosts.deny (and the hosts.allow) file is irrelevant. Hey, at least I caught my own mistake :-) Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba Question
On Sun, 2002-02-03 at 17:29, Mithrilhall2000 wrote: When at my Windows XP computer I do a search using the IP of the linux computer and it shows this: Name Folder Comment 192.168.1.3 unknown If I double-click the IP address shown above I get a login prompt and I type in the username bob and the password test but it never logs in. It just keeps giving me the same prompt. If I go to the linux computer and open Network Monitoring I can see that it is sending and receiving but I can't figure out why it's not letting me log in. If anyone can help me with this I would greatly appreciate it. Mithrilhall Do you have a share setup on your Samba box? What are its permissions? What is the version of Samba you are running (I seem to recall there being a problem with some fairly recent versions of Samba having trouble with WinXP)? Have you looked at your Samba logs ( /var/log/samba/log.* )? Let us know, and we can proceed from there. Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Am I being hacked?
On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 12:47, Todd Slater wrote: Checking the webalizer stats for Apache, I see that I have a huge amount of 404 errors. I looked in the error log and found a single IP address requesting all sorts of Windows programs and directories. For example: /winnt/system32/cmd.exe /MSADC/root.exe root.exe and cmd.exe are the two main files, the paths vary. And, what should/can I do about it? Todd Most likely, you are seeing the results of Code Red or some variant, which is a worm that only affects MS IIS (Internet Information Server, Microsoft's WinNT/2000-based web server). There has been a free patch available for several months, but there are still a LOT of infected servers out there. Since you aren't running IIS, you really don't need to worry about it yourself. However, if you want to avoid filling up your log, then you might just want to add that host's IP address to your /etc/hosts.deny file. Also, courtesy would dictate that you do an nslookup on the IP address, find out who owns that server, and email them to tell them they are infected and should patch their system. Dave -- Beware the wrath of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Network Resources
On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 07:57, Paul Kraus wrote: How do I access network resources in a windows workgroup? How do I share a folder? Paul, To integrate Linux networking with Windows, you need the Samba suite of applications for Linux. These generally include 3 packages (rpm's) called samba-common, samba-server, and samba-client. Mandrake 8.1 includes all of these, at version 2.2.2 if I remember correctly. You only need samba-common and samba-client to access shares on other computers. If you want to create shares that others can access from Windows (or Linux), then you also need samba-server. Once Samba is installed, there is ample documentation included to help you get started. Dave -- Beware of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Galeon
On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 14:16, Marcia wrote: Dear All, I really like Galeon as a web browser however I have not figured out how to get my java, realplayer, and flash to work in Galeon. These all work fine in Netscape but not in Galeon and I prefer to use Galeon. Would any one be able to help me to get these to work in the Galeon web browser? I have LM 8.1. Thanks for any help. Marcia, You need to get those plugins working Mozilla first, and then they will automatically work in Galeon as well. Dave -- Every path has its puddle. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] trashing messages in Evolution
On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 11:51, Todd Slater wrote: On Wednesday 30 January 2002 12:15 pm, Andy Gay wrote: Go to Actions menu, then punch Empty Trash. Is there a way to send the message to the trash without permanently deleting it? T Here is how Evolution works: 1. When you delete a message in any folder, it is struck through (or hidden, depending on your settings) and copied to the Trash folder. 2. When you undelete a message (right-click any struck-through message and choose Undelete from the popup menu), the message is no longer struck through, and the copy that was in the Trash is removed. 3. When you expunge a folder (Ctrl-E), all struck through messages are deleted from that folder, *and deleted from the Trash*. This only works on a per-folder basis. Any deleted messages in the Trash which came from other folders are not affected. 4. When you empty the Trash, this effectively acts as a mass-expunge of all folders. Dave -- Every path has its puddle. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Basic Network
On Fri, 2002-01-25 at 07:03, poogle wrote: I have a network card in my PC and a pcmcia network card in my laptop, both are recognised/configured , I have crossover RJ45 cable and now I want them to talk to each other. (both running 8.1, Windows not involved here) I have read the books and rtfm but still don't understand what to do. Can anyone point me to a simple tutorial covering Linux peer to peer networking please, I've tried a google search but not come up with one that meets my needs. What, exactly, are you trying to do? If both machines have IP addresses on the same network, then they should be able to ping each other. Can they? Are you wanting to emulate a Windows-type Network Neighborhood? If so, then you need to install Samba server and client on each machine, then configure them. Alternatively, you could go with Linux' native NFS, which is more powerful than Samba. It lets you mount network filesystems in a similar manner that you would map a network drive in Windows, but it also maintains proper file permissions and executable capabilities between Linux boxes. Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] partitions
On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 03:57, Nick wrote: Does anyone know of a partition tool in Linux that can resize a partition with losing the data? Thanks -- Mandrake's own diskdrake can do it. I've successfully re-sized my Windows partition (made it smaller, to give more room for Linux) without losing any data. However, it is important to run disk defragmenter before resizing your Windows partition. This will bring all the fragmented bits of files together toward the beginning of the hard disk, leaving you more clean and available space in the partition. Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] libcurl and cURL conflict ...
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 11:27, Kenn Yahoo wrote: Greetings I want to install a program (LinuxTrade) ... when I tried to install it, i received a message that failed dependencies: curl is needed ... so i downloaded curl and attempted to install it but received a message, file /usr/lib/libcurl.so.2 from install of curl-7.9.2-1 conflicts with file from package libcurl2-7.8.1-1mdk so, having nothing to lose (by which i mean, it's just my experimental box), I went to Package Manager to attempt to uninstall libcurl2 so that i could install cURL ... again, an error message, this time error: removing this package would break dependencies ... curl-lib is needed by rpmdrake . libcurl.so.2 is needed by rpmdrake ... libcurl.so.2 is needed by grpmi what am i doing wrong? It doesn't sound like you are doing anything wrong. This happens occasionally, and it is really just a matter of knowing you are smarter than the software you are using. You can try the --nodeps option when installing an rpm, and it will ignore these kinds of dependency errors. Example: # rpm -Uvh --nodeps somepackage.i386.rpm The danger here is that if you install a package with one or more conflicting files (like libcurl.so.2), you may break the program or programs which depend on the other version of libcurl. But since you have nothing to lose, just give it a try and see what happens. If other stuff gets broken in the proces, you can either try to resolve the conflist, or go back to the previous version of libcurl by reinstalling the Mandrake package which supplies that file. Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Domain hosting--how to?
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 15:30, Todd Slater wrote: I've been playing with Apache and am able to access my machine by typing in the IP address in a browser. I am connected to RoadRunner by a cable modem. RR uses DHCP, so my IP could theoretically change. I named the machine NAME.columbus.rr.com, which I found from winipcfg (when I still had Windows :)). If I want to host the domain myself, 1. do I need to run DNS on my box (and BIND is what I use to do this?) 2. are the dynamic dns services reliable enough? 3. how difficult is this, really? I currently pay $9.95/month for hosting, and think it that money could be better spent on, say, red meat. Todd, First of all, I think RoadRunner blocks port 80. Originally this was because of Code Red and then Nimda, but I think now they leave it up just to keep people from running servers on their network. If you check your service agreement and terms of use, you will probably find I am correct in this. Now, as to DNS. You can use a free DNS service like dyndns.org, which allows you to use your dynamic IP address. Dyndns.org is very reliable in my experience. You just need to run a client program which oeriodically checks your IP address, and if it sees a change, then it automatically updates their DNS servers. I have DSL (which allows me to run a server), and I use dyndns.org. My server is sildara.dyndns.org (the free registration basically makes your server into a host on their network, thus the above domain name). You can register a domain if you want, and have dyndns.org provide the same services for your real domain. I think this might not be free, however.\ If you have a local network in your house, then running BIND internally will make domain resolution, both on your LAN and on the Internet, much quicker for your PCs. This is what I do (on a RedHat server), and it works great. If RR blocks port 80 like I think they do, then you are pretty much stuck unless you run Apache on a different port (like 32323, or whatever, but I would recommend a high number, between 32000 and 65000). Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Menu of KDE or GNOME
On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 09:00, Tomek Nowinski wrote: Hi, Anybody could help me to find out how to put new programs on menu of KDE or GNOME so I can run them from there? Run menudrake. Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Case Sensativity on web pages
On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 21:37, Dragon . wrote: I was wondering if there was a way to take off the case sensativity for the httpd. I want to be able to browse to http://ipaddress/test and http://ipaddress/TeSt for the same directory. Currently, http://ipaddress/TeSt doesn't work but http://ipaddress/test does. --Dragon If you wanted to do that, you would be asking Apache to ignore the basic *nix filesystem rules, which I don't think is possible. The server would have to calculate every possible upper/lower case combination for each directory and file a user might request, and that would cause a (probably big) performance hit! And if there are two files with the same name (except for upper/lower case), then what would Apache do? Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question about security
On Sun, 2002-01-13 at 11:05, Todd Slater wrote: I just got my cable modem running under 8.1. I set up a firewall (Tiny firewall) via the Control Center. I'm not running a web or mail server or anything. Is this adequate? Also, what is good for virus scanning? I didn't find any virus scanner on the download edition cds. There are lots of network scanners available. Saint is a good one, it has a web-based interface and provides a pretty good summary report of anything it finds. There is some flexibility in how you want it to scan, but not a lot. Enough for most people, I suspect. Unless you are running a mail server for Windows clients (esp. Outlook), you won't need a virus scanner. There are only a handful of known viruses for Linux, and Mandrake 8.1 is not vulnerable to any of them (because the security problems have already been fixed). Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] School related question again
I'm all for helping out a guy in school, and I might even be interested in the results of the poll, but could we possibly just reply to the student himself, rather than to the list? There was a lot of unnecessary traffic generated by the last poll, all of which really should have just been sent to the original poster. The poster can then give us his final results, if the general consensus is for him to do so. Thanks for your indulgence, Dave On Thu, 2002-01-10 at 07:49, Robin Turner wrote: On Thursday 10 January 2002 08:25, RCN Mail wrote: This is the last time I'll ask for help here. I don't want to waste anyone's time. I have to do another project for my statistics class and was wondering if you guys could answer these questions for me. -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] what to use for hostname
On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 08:36, kenn@yahoo wrote: well, i guess i was too late ... i just went to www.dyndns.com and discovered that they no longer offer free accounts ... $50 a year is not an outrageous amount, but i'd still prefer a free service ... does anyone have any other recommendations on where to find a free dns service ? Do a google search on free dns and you will get a bunch of hits. Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] what to use for hostname
On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 10:09, Eric Budinger wrote: Ok. Im using a router here Can I have a hostname or do I have to use the localhost.localhost one? Eric *Everyone* is using a router somewhere ;-) You still want a hostname. Are you behind a DSL router or cable modem/router that does NAT? If so, then you will need to use the IP address of the router, and you will also need to configure your router to forward packets through to your server. Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Environment variables, evolution and bonobo
You would be better off modifying the .bash_profile in your home directory. Otherwise, you are correct in your understanding of environment variables, how to set them, and how to export them. Dave On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 12:21, Terry Smith wrote: I think this is a prety basic question, but that's why I'm a newbie:-). Today's task is upgrading evolution. Short version: I'd like to add an environment variable. I've never done this but have RTFM'd. Am I correct in assuming that I could edit the '/etc/profile' file, add a new line such as 'ENVVAR=value' and then add the ENVVAR to the 'EXPORT' line? Longer version: I found a magazine in the local bookstore - LinuxFormat - published in the UK. Seems pretty good (and also quite expensive). Anyone have experience with the mag? Anyway, when you buy the mag you get a CD with lots of software on it, including, in this case, Evolution 1.0 beta 5. Now I know I can go to Ximian's site and grab this stuff but I'm trying to upgrade my evolution from the CD supplied files. I unpacked the tarball and ran ./configure. I got an error to the effect that configure couldn't locate the oaf-config file. Well I don't know what this is but I did a locate and found an /etc/oaf directory with a couple of files in it (oat-config.xml and auto-config.xml.example). Configure says I should set my environment variable OAF-CONFIG to the full path name of oaf-config. So can I modify my /etc/profile file by adding a line, viz. OAF-CONFIG=/etc/oaf and then adding OAF-CONFIG to the line in the /etc/profile that EXPORTS environmental variables? TIA. Terry Smith Hatchville, MA, USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lost drive?
On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 08:47, Eric Budinger wrote: Hi, I just re-installed Linux on my 4 gig hard drive. I have a 4 gig, My Cdrom and a 1.2 gig. On my 1.2gig is my OLD linux system with my old HOME directory. Well I don't see my old drive. My 4 gig is my Pri Master, My CDrom is my Pri Slave and my 1.2 gig is my Sec Master. Help? Eric Linux is not like DOS -- you can't just access a drive by its letter or anything like that. Instead, each drive must be mounted on your root filesystem. You can probably access the drive by mounting /dev/hdc (or maybe /dev/hdb, depending upon how the cdrom was detected). The hard drive devices are named 'hdx' (for hard drive x, where 'x' is a, b, c... in order of primacy on the IDE channel). cdrom's sometimes appear as a hard drive if they are ordinary ide drives, or will appear as scsi devices if they are cd burners. So, assuming your second hard drive is /dev/hdb, you can mount it on your root filesystem as a directory, maybe call it /ohd (for 'old hard drive'). Once it is mounted as a directory, you can access it and do whatever copying or transferring of data you need to do. Then, just unmount it and you are ready to go. The mount command might be something like this (must be done as root): mount -t ext2 /dev/hdc /ohd There are lots of other options to the mount command, 'man mount' for more info on it. Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] named configuration
I have written up the necessary config files for your dns, Julian. They may need some tweaking, but they should match the setup you describe below. The named.conf goes in /etc. The other two files go in /var/named, and are the actual files which named (dns) uses to keep track on computers and IP addresses. They are the actual database files, while named.conf simply tells named that those files exist, and where to find them. The config is based on my my own dns system (which works perfectly), which is running on a RedHat 6.2 server. There may be some minor differences with the Mandrake version of named, but I don't know for sure. Just try them out, and if they don't work right away, read the docs and tweak the files as necessary. Anyway, once they are working, set your local PCs to use your Linux server as their primary dns server, and it will be able to resolve your local network for you. Dave On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 09:04, Julian Opificius wrote: But even if the fqdn IS in the hosts file, it wont serve it to the local LAN if hosts isn't used in DNS resolution! There's no point in a local machine going up to my ISP's nameserver to find name/address mappings for another machine on my computer is there? DNS for the local LAN has to be handled by a NS that has authority for my LAN. Who else could that be than my local Linux server running DNS? Here's my line-up: My fixed IP is 209.173.210.166, and it has a real name of julianop.swdata.com. I'm making julianop.swdata.com a subdomain, and will, when I get this all sorted out, run FTP, HTPP, SMTP, and POP3 servers. But I'm not there yet ... I have four machines: anoka.julianop.swdata.com (linux server at 10.0.0.2, DNS set to 206.196.47.10 20), sierra.julianop.swdata.com (win98 at 10.0.0.3, DNS to 10.0.0.2), monsta.julianop.swdata.com (win98 at 10.0.0.5, DNS to 10.0.0.2), and pongo.julianop.swdata.com (win98 at 10.0.0.5, DNS to 10.0.0.2). They are on my private lan, behind NAT. No DNS server in the world is going to answer a DNS request from sierra asking what pongo's IP address is. Sierra doesn't yet know that pongo is on it's own subnet - it could be off in Outer Mongolia, so it sends a DNS request to the DNS server it's been told to ask for IP resolution. Who fulfills DNS requests for local machines if not anoka? I've been told that bind doesn't look at /etc/hosts, which brought my world crashing down. Now what? :-) Thanks for your patience with me, I'm sure we're nearly at the bottom of this. julian. = Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 763.360.5919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. @ IN SOA anoka.julianop.swdata.com. hostmaster.julianop.swdata.com. ( 2001110802 ; serial 28800 ; refresh 7200 ; retry 2419200 ; expire 86400 ; default_ttl ) @ IN NS ns.julianop.swdata.com. 2 IN PTR anoka.julianop.swdata.com. 3 IN PTR sierra.julianop.swdata.com. 4 IN PTR monsta.julianop.swdata.com. 5 IN PTR pongo.julianop.swdata.com. options { directory /var/named; allow-query{ 10.0.0.0/24; localhost; }; allow-recursion{ 10.0.0.0 / 24; localhost; }; }; zone . { type hint; file named.ca; }; zone julianop.swdata.com{ type master; file julianop.swdata.com; notify no; allow-query{ any; }; }; zone 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa{ type master; file named.local; }; zone 0.0.10.in-addr.arpa{ type master; file 10.0.0; notify no; allow-query{ any; }; }; ; ; Zone file for julianop.swdata.com ; ; The full zone file ; @ IN SOA anoka.julianop.swdata.com. hostmaster.julianop.swdata.com. ( 2001090800 ; serial 28800 ; refresh 7200 ; retry 2419200 ; expire 86400 ; default_ttl ) ; @ IN NS ns @ IN MX 10 mail.julianop.swdata.com. ; anoka IN A 10.0.0.2 ns IN A 10.0.0.2 mailIN CNAME anoka www
Re: [newbie] what to use for hostname
On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 13:58, Randy Kramer wrote: Do some more reading of the docs, and if you have more questions, just post them. (I'm not the original poster.) I've read some documents (on the order of a year ago) and still have not set up my mail server. I believe (and I'm looking for confirmation) that I don't have to have a registered domain name to run a mail server. This is partially true. To receive mail, you need to have a domain to which people can send. And to send or relay mail, many servers are set to refuse mail from another server (like yours) to which they can't do a dns lookup and verify your server's fully qualified domain name (fqdn). One workaround for this is to register with dyndns.org or another free dns service, in which you will be given a host name like sildara.dyndns.org (that's mine). Then, if you set up your mail server to use this valid fqdn, you are good to go. I use postfix, and it was quite simple to get going. To get specific, I have an email address at my isp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). When I set up my mail server at home, I plan to give it an arbitrary fully qualified domain name (that will not be registered) and then use aliases or whatever to make the system work. (I'll probably use fetchmail to get the mail, let postfix / procmail sort it, then let postfix send it. I won't need the FQDN for fetchmail, but I guess I will need if for Postfix so that upstream mail providers don't think I'm an illegal relay (or whatever).) (I'll probably use something like system8.home.z as my non-registered FQDN, where system8 is the host name of my main Linux box, home is the workgroup of my Windows network, and z is totally arbitrary, but avoids any chance of collision with a real two or three letter top level domain.) I use a non-registered domain internally as well, but for external domain name resolution you will need something that everyone else can find. It sounds like you already know this. Postfix is really easy to configure, and the included documentation has three sample configs for various sizes of networks. I host two domains (one non-registered, one registered), plus the dyndns fqdn on my server. I have both web and mail at sildara.dyndns.org. Detailed pointers would be appreciated, but a general yes, this can work, you're on the right track (or the opposite) would be very helpful. Randy Kramer Sounds like you're on the right track ;-) Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] named configuration
On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 16:16, Julian Opificius wrote: Is there some willing chap who can help me configure named.conf? julian. I could help, although you might be better served just reading the DNS howto. That's how I learned, anyway... Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites
On Tue, 2002-01-01 at 08:51, robin wrote: Dave Sherman wrote: [cut] I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law passes in Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in Washington) will be able to make a minor change to their proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever file formats, and it will be illegal for Sun or anyone else to reverse-engineer that file format to create a new filter for their competing office suite. And if anyone DOES reverse-engineer the file format, then MS can sue them to smithereens, and even try to go for a prison sentence, since their EULA will carry the force of law. I can't seriously see this happening. Microsoft had enough political and economic clout to survive getting sued by Netscape et al., but they don't have the clout to sue Sun - it would be suicidal. Maybe. But they *could* sue OpenOffice.org, and probably shut it down, which would effectively slow, if not stop, development of StarOffice as well. I suspect the real reason for the paucity of .doc filters is that it is such a yucky format that writing a good filter is more trouble than it's worth. wv does a passable job but is far from perfect, and even Star Office only got it right with version 6.0. It is a yucky *and* an undocumented format. This means it requires anyone to reverse engineer it before they can write a filter for it. If you check the OpenOffice.org website, you will see that they were forced to re-write the MS Office filters from scratch, because the StarOffice filters were under an NDA from Sun. It wasn't because of MS licensing, but Sun itself was standing in the way (this may, on second thought, be a carry-over from Sun's purchase of StarOffice from the German Star company that originally developed the software). But here's another scary example, to which Civileme alluded: Samba. What will happen if/when UCITA passes in Washington state, and Microsoft sues the Samba team for reverse-engineering their proprietary software and network protocols? If we are lucky, Samba will be able to continue working outside the US, in one or more countries that are willing to largely ignore US extradition requests (or more accurately, that are so difficult to deal with that MS won't even bother). And any US-based Samba developers will need to leave the team, because MS can go after them individually -- again, for both monetary compensation and imprisonment. One need only look at Adobe's ridiculous actions with regard to Dmitri Sklyarov to realize that MS will not hesitate to try the same thing with any known Samba developer that they can reach. Civileme's further point, to which Doug balked, was that we should all be looking to move away from MS' (or anyone else's, for that matter) proprietary file formats, as a pre-emptive move so that we are not locked into yet another MS monopoly if/when UCITA passes. In our own self-interest, we should be changing to open file formats, like xml (which StarOffice 6.0 uses, by the way). We need .doc filters as a stopgap. No matter how often I tell my colleagues that I refuse to read .doc files, sometimes I just have to. XML is a reasonable lingua franca, but for my own purposes, I'm still a LaTeX man. I agree that we need the filters for now, but it would still be wise to stop using MS' proprietary formats ASAP. As far as using LaTeX, is there a free and easy to use LaTeX editor/word processor for Windows and Macintosh? Just curious -- actually, I thought LaTeX was a document layout/markup language for professional publishing, but not something typically used for word processing. I am betting you need to convert your documents to a different format for others (non-Linux users) to read, yes? Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites
On Sun, 2001-12-30 at 17:52, Doug Lerner wrote: I wouldn't mind doing that myself, and encouraging our company to do that. I have no particular love for Microsoft proprietary products. But I can't force our customers to change. As we say here in Japan, the customer is God. If the client wants to send me an Office file I have to be able to see it. And I have to be able to send something back to the customer that they can open. doug I hear you. As a consultant, I deal with customers' Word and Excel docs on a daily basis. For my own work, I use StarOffice 6 beta, and all my files are saved in SO's native xml formats. When I need to send a document to a customer, I export it to the appropriate MS Office format, then send it to them. I also, without trying to sound like a zealot or something, warn them about these kinds of things, so they aren't surprised when it finally happens. There's a really good article at: http://www.troubleshooters.com/tpromag/200104/200104.htm which I found very informative, and which I emailed several of my customers. They are all ignoring my warnings, but I will have the last laugh, and will likely make a *really* good living when they suddenly need to convert their systems and data... Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites
On Sat, 2001-12-29 at 20:32, daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 09:17:59 +0900 Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sunday, December 30, 2001): One of the things that _no_one_ should be concerned about any longer is compatibility with MS Office. This is absolutely impossible for me. I exchange so many files (spreadsheet, doc and presentation) with so many customers and other staff members that unfortunately Office has become the standard by which we exchange compatible files. Not being compatible with MS Office - at least in my case - is unthinkable. I know I'm coming in late on this thread, but Star Office handles this very thing beautifully. ALL of it. I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law passes in Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in Washington) will be able to make a minor change to their proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever file formats, and it will be illegal for Sun or anyone else to reverse-engineer that file format to create a new filter for their competing office suite. And if anyone DOES reverse-engineer the file format, then MS can sue them to smithereens, and even try to go for a prison sentence, since their EULA will carry the force of law. Civileme's further point, to which Doug balked, was that we should all be looking to move away from MS' (or anyone else's, for that matter) proprietary file formats, as a pre-emptive move so that we are not locked into yet another MS monopoly if/when UCITA passes. In our own self-interest, we should be changing to open file formats, like xml (which StarOffice 6.0 uses, by the way). Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Browser
On Sat, 2001-12-29 at 07:48, Rich wrote: Not too long ago I made some changes to my Mandrake 8.1 desktop and now have a couple of minor problems with my Galeon browser: Galeon now wants to be on top all the time and it doesn't respond to any setting changes to let something else be on top; I want Galeon to be the default browser when I click on a link in my mail client (Evolution), but Mozilla keeps popping up. Where do I go to change the default? Rich, In Galeon, click the Settings menu, then Preferences. Choose the User Interface tab, and then the Windows sub-section. Un-check the box marked Keep fullscreen window above all other windows. That should take care of Galeon wanting to be on top all the time. As for preferred browser settings, are you using KDE or Gnome, or something else for your desktop? In Gnome, open the Control Center, look under Document Handlers and click URL Handlers. On the right side of the window, click 'http' and edit the text box to say: galeon --new-tab '%s' Do the same for 'https', and you will be set. It is probably similar in KDE, but I don't know. Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux networking
On Thu, 2001-12-13 at 19:15, bugs FIX wrote: i have windows xp running a internet sharring and my linux machine wont connect to my network any ideas y We're gonna need some more info to help you out... What exactly isn't working? Can you ping the various machines? Tell us what's wrong. Also, tell us the output of 'ifconfig' and 'route -n'. Dave -- QOTD: My mother was the travel agent for guilt trips. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba question - making shares invisible
On Thu, 2001-12-13 at 22:14, Julian Opificius wrote: With dexterous use of chmod and the smbpasswd file I can control access to various shares, but how do I prevent shares from even appearing for logins who are not permitted to access them? I'd rather those shares not even appear, so as to provide a simplified interface to some users (i.e. my kids). If I remember correctly, under a share definition just add: browseable = no This will make it invisible, but you can still map a network drive to it. However, this makes it invisible to everyone, not just selected users. I would seggest 'man smb.conf' for further information. Dave -- -- Male cadavers are incapable of yielding testimony. -- Individuals who make their abode in vitreous edifices would be well advised to refrain from catapulting projectiles. -- Neophyte's serendipity. -- Exclusive dedication to necessitious chores without interludes of hedonistic diversion renders John a hebetudinous fellow. -- A revolving concretion of earthy or mineral matter accumulates no congeries of small, green bryophytic plant. -- Abstention from any aleatory undertaking precludes a potential escallation of a lucrative nature. -- Missiles of ligneous or osteal consistency have the potential of fracturing osseous structure, but appellations will eternally remain innocuous. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ifconfig
On Fri, 2001-12-14 at 02:28, Paul Rodríguez wrote: How come I have *both* eth0 and ppp apparently running when I type ifconfig? I connect to the internet via adsl. Some types of DSL require ppp (specifically, 'pppoe', or Point-to-Point Protocol Over Ethernet) to connect and authenticate with the ISP. Yours is probably one. Dave -- -- Male cadavers are incapable of yielding testimony. -- Individuals who make their abode in vitreous edifices would be well advised to refrain from catapulting projectiles. -- Neophyte's serendipity. -- Exclusive dedication to necessitious chores without interludes of hedonistic diversion renders John a hebetudinous fellow. -- A revolving concretion of earthy or mineral matter accumulates no congeries of small, green bryophytic plant. -- Abstention from any aleatory undertaking precludes a potential escallation of a lucrative nature. -- Missiles of ligneous or osteal consistency have the potential of fracturing osseous structure, but appellations will eternally remain innocuous. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux networking
OK, at least with Evolution I can read html email. But you will notice how many people (rightly) complained. Your network setup looks good on first glance. You have a nice non-routing IP address, and your default gateway is on the same network. Questions: What are the IP addresses of your other machines? (You don't have any duplicate IP addresses, do you?) Did you specify the IP address, or do you have dhcp running? How do you connect ot the Internet (dial-up, dsl, cable modem, etc.)? Have you tried pinging your machines yet? If so, what was the outcome of that? Hang in there, we are trying to help you! Dave On Fri, 2001-12-14 at 13:25, bugs FIX wrote: [root@localhost root]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8B:35:0C:18 inet addr:10.0.0.2 Bcast:10.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:10 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 nbs! p; TX packets:0 errors:29 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Interrupt:11 Base address:0x2000 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:299 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:299 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:21610 (21.1 Kb) TX bytes:21610 (21.1 Kb) [root@localhost root]# eth0 bash: eth0: command not found [root@localhost root]# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway n! bsp; Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 10.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U ! 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 10.0.0.10.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 -- All laws are simulations of reality. -- John C. Lilly Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hostname
On Sun, 2001-12-09 at 03:22, Stojs wrote: When running the server wizard from wizdrake I get stuck on hostname. The text sais if you will only have intranet any valid name is ok, like company.net. I tried using that name but it was not correct. Do I have to pick a host name from somewhere else on the system? Or does my internet connection make the wizard assume that I am trying to configure an internet server? What makes a hostname valid? Do I have to use a domain name as well? Thanks, Stojs The hostname for a computer is a single word, like 'mycomputer' or 'frankenlinux'. The fully qualified domain name for a computer is a combination of the hostname and domain name (separated by a dot), like 'mycomputer.somedomain.org'. If you do not have a domain within your network (you're not running DNS for that network), then you can make up a domain like 'domain.com'. You must also have a hostname, and that hostname should be unique on the network. Thus, you can't (or shouldn't) have two computers called 'twins'. You could call them 'twin1' and 'twin2'. You get the idea. If I remember correctly, the wizard wants the fully qualified domain name. I could be wrong, but you should be able to figure out which one the wizard wants, and give it the correct answer. Dave -- Just a few of the perfect excuses for having some strawberry shortcake. Pick one. (1)It's less calories than two pieces of strawberry shortcake. (2)It's cheaper than going to France. (3)It neutralizes the brownies I had yesterday. (4)Life is short. (5)It's somebody's birthday. I don't want them to celebrate alone. (6)It matches my eyes. (7)Whoever said, Let them eat cake. must have been talking to me. (8)To punish myself for eating dessert yesterday. (9)Compensation for all the time I spend in the shower not eating. (10)Strawberry shortcake is evil. I must help rid the world of it. (11)I'm getting weak from eating all that healthy stuff. (12)It's the second anniversary of the night I ate plain broccoli. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Building Source RPMs?
OK, I am feeling a bit stupid right now! How do I build a source RPM? I have been trying 'rpm --rebuild package.src.rpm', but I keep getting the message 'package.src.rpm: no such file or directory'. The package *does* exist. I installed it, and the tarball went into /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES, and the spec file went into /usr/src/RPM/SPECS, like I would have expected. The source RPM itself is in /usr/src/RPM, where I copied it before installing it. I am su'd to root. Is this a PATH issue? Dave -- The key to building a superstar is to keep their mouth shut. To reveal an artist to the people can be to destroy him. It isn't to anyone's advantage to see the truth. -- Bob Ezrin, rock music producer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DNS problems
On Sun, 2001-12-09 at 18:09, NDPTAL85 wrote: After about a week of taking my Mandrake 8.1 box off of DHCP and giving it its own permanent IP it can no longer resolve domain names when using that IP. When I switch it back to DHCP it starts working fine again. I am using kernel 2.4.13-12mdk. Has anyone else come across this problem? My guess would be that your /etc/resolv.conf file is empty. If you were receiving your DNS info via DHCP, then when you disabled DHCP you no longer were receiving the IP addresses of your DNS servers. Enter them in /etc/resolv.conf, and you should be good to go. If it turns out that you already have the correct IP addresses for your DNS servers in /etc/resolv.conf, I don't know what is going on. Dave -- I think that I shall never hear A poem lovelier than beer. The stuff that Joe's Bar has on tap, With golden base and snowy cap. The stuff that I can drink all day Until my mem'ry melts away. Poems are made by fools, I fear But only Schlitz can make a beer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] kill a zombie process?
I should know this, but I am too lazy to look it up when the answer is probably just an email away... How do I kill a zombie process? I have tried kill -9 as root, I have tried rebooting, and neither one worked. The process is still there. Dave -- marriage, n.: An old, established institution, entered into by two people deeply in love and desiring to make a committment to each other expressing that love. In short, committment to an institution. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] staroffice 6 install
On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 09:20, Lanman wrote: Absolutley! It's actually StarOffice without the desktop, browser, or Email client. Which means it's a little faster, and a more conventional Office Suite. Even handles M$ Office XP stuff! Current release is 641b (not a beta version). Here's the link,... http://openoffice.org Lanman FYI, StarOffice 6 also does not have the integrated desktop and email client. The word processing module can view html pages, even from a web server, so it could double as a web browser, but I would not use it for such. The point is, StarOffice 6 is also faster than its parent, 5.2. AFAIK, the only real differences between SO6 and OpenOffice are the use of some proprietary filters (for MS Word, etc.) that Sun is able to include in StarOffice. In OpenOffice, the filters had to be rewritten from scratch. Dave -- Mother told me to be good but she's been wrong before. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Galeon and Java
On Mon, 2001-12-03 at 04:38, Allen Herndz wrote: I have a pretty old version of Galeon on my mdk 8.0 (0.10.2), and I just wanted to know how to get Java working. I have a very slow connection and I can't make the rpms work coz I don't have the Mozilla srces. Just looking for any quick answers from Galeon lovers. As far as I know, all you need to do is get Java working for mozilla, and Galeon will be able to use it too. There was a thread here just about a week ago, that said how to get Java working in Mozilla, but I don't remember the steps. I think it had to do with making a symlink from a working JDK or JVM, to the plugins directory under the mozilla directory. Dave -- linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste ([EMAIL PROTECTED] put this on Tshirts in '93) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Root exploit in SSH
On Sat, 2001-12-01 at 13:34, dfox wrote: Attachment converted: Big Foot:Untitled 9 (/) (0003801F) Can you shut off the attachments that go out with your posts to the Mandrake Newbie list? My drive is getting littered with these files I have stopped putting my digital signature on all emails to the list. For whatever reason, Evolution insists on signing emails as an attachment, rather than just including the appropriate text within the message like kmail does. A big ditto as far as message.footer is concerned. PLEASE PLEASE rethink this as a .signature rather than an attachment. It's not all that big of a deal -- at least it didn't use to be - but in 8.1 with its new elm - it interferes a lot, unless elm can be reconfigured not to see every message from that list as having an attachment. That message.footer is from the list server, not me. Dave -- Earth -- mother of the most beautiful women in the universe. -- Apollo, Who Mourns for Adonais? stardate 3468.1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to upgrade to ext3?
On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 14:30, civileme wrote: Hmmm, well it seems you did the partition thing the hard way. If you open a terminal, su to root and run diskdrake You can change the partitions from ext2 to ext3 in place and it also changes the /etc/fstab entries so they say ext3 as well. I actually thought of that idea, but did not pursue it as I assumed that making such a change would also reformat the partition. Dave -- Never trust a child farther than you can throw it. msg83097/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie] Root exploit in SSH
Root exploit in SSH -- anybody heard about this? I've shut down my ssh server, just in case. But I haven't seen anything on Mandrake's security page for 8.1, nor have I received an announcement from Mandrake. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openssh-unix-devm=100696253318793w=2 I CC'd the security address for Mandrake ... if this was a faux pas, please forgive. Dave Sherman -- Worth seeing? Yes, but not worth going to see. msg83706/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Evolution RC2 problem
On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 10:10, Jim Dawson wrote: I finally managed to get Evolution RC2 installed on my LM 8.1 system, but now the 'Contacts' and 'Mail' portions don't work, Does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks in advance. When I upgraded to Evo RC1, I found that I had to log out and log back in to get it working correctly. I may have even restarted the X server, but I don't remember for sure. Anyway, the problem seems to be with loading new shared libraries, and the fact that the older libs are loaded already when you install/upgrade Evolution, and the new libs won't be loaded until you log out and back in. Dave -- Falling in love makes smoking pot all day look like the ultimate in restraint. -- Dave Sim, author of Cerebrus. msg82928/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Installing Evolution under Mandrake 8.1
On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 21:57, Jim Dawson wrote: Does anyone know of an easy way to install the latest Ximian Evolution under Mandrake 8.1? I keep getting dependancy errors when I try to install. Unless you really want all of Ximian Gnome, you are better off installing the version of Evolution that came with 8.1 (0.12, I think), or (better yet) install the 0.99rc1 from Cooker. I've been running it for a while now, and it is much more stable on my system than the version that came on the CDs. Dave -- I wonder if I should put myself in ESCROW!! msg82749/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Importing Fonts
On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 03:36, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Ah.. the new generation of Linux users... Y'all can't do anything without a GUI. Want to know what's going on under the covers? Then when you want to add fonts, you can.. any time, any type. :) Ok... Here goes: [big snip] Ric, thanks for reminding me why I got into Linux in the first place -- because I can get under the covers and see exactly what is going on! I admit I use GUI tools for their convenience, but it's nice to be able to get my hands dirty once in a while. Dave -- When I was little, I went into a pet shop and they asked how big I'd get. -- Rodney Dangerfield msg82753/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer
On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 13:25, E Estes wrote: I have seen screen shots of people running this on linux and was wondering where I could find it. Any and all help would be appreciated. You will need to use either Win4Lin or VMWare to run Windows under Linux, in order to use MSIE. MS will not release a Linux-native version of IE, because we are their greatest threat to Windows, and they refuse to compromise their OS monopoly. They have a Solaris-native version of IE, but AFAIK it does not run on Linux, and since there is no source available, you can't just recompile. Dave -- Base 8 is just like base 10, if you are missing two fingers. -- Tom Lehrer msg82769/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer
On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 05:50, Mark D'voo wrote: i agree, galeon is better than any browser to date, the only reason i have wine on my computer right now is for return to castle wolfenstein, but when the linux binaries come out in a week, bye bye wine On Tuesday 27 November 2001 23:40, you wrote: I see no reason to run IE on Linux. Attempting to do so only continues to vindicate M$. There are many excelent browsers that run great on linux. There's no need to run M$ crapware on a good operating system. Try to keep in mind that some of us are web designers, and we try to test our websites on all browsers on all platforms, not just Linux browsers. Dave -- An optimist is a man who looks forward to marriage. A pessimist is a married optimist. msg82786/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Servers
On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 20:32, Robert Boggs wrote: In windows I have a small network set up. I use netbeui, and I wish to do the same in linux using Samba, with netbeui. Can anyone tell me how to set these up. I really like the new Mandrake. I think I may go to it as my full time system. My wife, however cannot do this, as she is blind and has JAWS for windows, and there is not any GUI talkers for linux, that we know of. This is why I must set her systems up to access my box from Widows. I wish someone could make a system for linux that would talk in x and gnome and KDE. Please help. You may E-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], if you wish. As far as I know, Samba only works with TCP/IP networks. I could be wrong. Dave -- Do not drink coffee in early A.M. It will keep you awake until noon. msg82834/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Accounting software for Linux
On Thu, 2001-11-22 at 18:04, Nelson Bartley wrote: Hi Guys, I'm currently looking for accounting software for linux. Does anyone know of any? or any open source groups currently attempting to develop these types of products? Thanks, Nelson AppGen has free Quicken and Quickbooks clones. I am just trying out their QuickBooks app (called MyBooks), but I haven't used it enough yet to say anything. It is a java application, though, so you won't want to run it on a slow machine (I have it on a 366 MHz Celeron laptop w/ 192 MB RAM, and it runs fine so far). Dave -- Boycott meat -- suck your thumb. msg82513/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] AOL help Simple Samba
On Wed, 2001-11-21 at 15:57, Randy Kramer wrote: Dave Sherman wrote: My Aunt MAUREEN was a military advisor to IKE TINA TURNER!! OK, so what's the rest of the story? I run fortune in a cron job, to generate my signature file. I really don't know what some of these things mean I think the signature in this message is just a silly joke to keep you hanging ;-) Dave -- Please take note: msg82460/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] office 2000 shares
On Thu, 2001-11-22 at 08:22, Frank McKenna wrote: I would like to try to share the application itself across the LAN as opposed to just files and documents. I have never done this, but... You should be able to just map a network drive in your Windows box, to the Samba share, and then install Office 2000 on that network drive. Windows won't know the difference between a real disk drive and a network drive, and so will happily run the program from the network. Dave -- Please take note: msg82462/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] AOL help Simple Samba
On Wed, 2001-11-21 at 06:48, AOL Systems wrote: Pls help me how to configure simple Samba configuration.Pls give at least a brief config using the source.Pls Thanks! Samba includes a simple smb.conf file that is self-documented. I based three of my Samba setups on that file, with a few modifications. Maybe you could tell us exactly what part you are having trouble with (creating a shared printer, making a public shared folder, making a private share, etc.), so we can give you some specific advice. Otherwise, my smb.conf might not do you any good. Dave -- My Aunt MAUREEN was a military advisor to IKE TINA TURNER!! msg82157/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Question about installing PHP 4.0
On Wed, 2001-11-21 at 05:58, E Estes wrote: I downloaded a file php-4.0.6.tar.gz and I opened it with Archiver and extracted it to a directory PHP. I tried doing the ./configure and I got errors. Here is what happened: [root@192 PHP]# ./configure loading cache ./configure.cache checking for a BSD compatible install.../usr/bin/install -c checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... no checking for working aclocal... missing checking for working autoconf... missing checking for working automake... missing checking for working autoheader... missing checking for working makeinfo... found checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no checking host system type...i586-pc-linux-gnuoldld checking for gawk... gawk checking for bison... no checking for byacc... no configure: warning: You will need bison if you want to regenerate the PHP parsers. checking for gcc... no checking for cc...no configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH [root@192 PHP]# If I try doing the make or make export I get nothing but: bash: make: command not found I'm at a loss here. I thought Mandrake shipped with php installed but I think I'm wrong. I've been trying to install this on and off for ove 2 weeks and I have gotten no where. Any help would be greatly appreciated. PHP does come on the Mandrake CDs, but it does not necessarily install unless you choose a server setup. Just use the Software Manager to install the PHP packages from CD. Dave -- The big cities of America are becoming Third World countries. -- Nora Ephron msg82158/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Evolution Qustions
On Fri, 2001-11-16 at 09:10, Gary Traffanstedt wrote: Two questions about Evolution: First, does anyone know how to enable the tab key in Evolution? When I hit tab to indent, nothing happens. It works perfectly fine in KMail, but not at all in Evolution. Tab works fine for me, so I would imagine it is a problem with your setup... Secondly, does anyone know how to add another city to the weather area of the summary screen? I realize that I should probably be asking these questions on an Evolution mailing list, but you guys have always offered great insight to all of my questions so I though I would try here first. From the Summary view, select the Tools, menu, then Summary Settings. Click the Weather tab in the resulting dialog, and add a city. Hope this helps, Dave -- Take the folks at Coca-Cola. For many years, they were content to sit back and make the same old carbonated beverage. It was a good beverage, no question about it; generations of people had grown up drinking it and doing the experiment in sixth grade where you put a nail into a glass of Coke and after a couple of days the nail dissolves and the teacher says: Imagine what it does to your TEETH! So Coca-Cola was solidly entrenched in the market, and the management saw no need to improve ... -- Dave Barry, In Search of Excellence msg81719/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Web page design
On Thu, 2001-11-15 at 19:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO you are miles ahead if you go ahead and take the short time it takes to learn to code by hand.it is much easier to code to w3c specs if you are able to make the changes quickly. Most WYSWYG editors do not code nearly as well as you can by hand.besides -- coding is half the fun! :) I agree wholeheartedly! Even my wife, who is a web designer and not a technical person at all, prefers to code her own HTML. She uses UltraEdit for Windows and Dreamweaver, but writes her own code rather than taking advantage of it's WYSIWIG functionality -- the only exception being when she is maintaining a page done by someone else who used a WYSIWIG tool, and the HTML is so horrendous that she doesn't have the time to clean it up herself ;-) BlueFish is an excellent html/text editor for linux. There are many othersmost are FREE.IBM's WYSWYG HomePageBuilder is not. I'm not bashing IBM or WYSWYG editors -- so easy on the flames guys--- Just my personal opinions as a web designer. I am VERY pleased to see IBM on the Linux side of the court. Would be even more pleased to see them port over Lotus Desktop products..very user friendly and so much nicer to use than M$'s...again just MHO. I tried Bluefish, but wasn't really impressed. I am now using Quanta Plus, included with Mandrake 8.1. It's a KDE app, but runs fine on my Gnome desktop. It is a code-based editor, but allows you to create projects with whole directories or individual files, publish your site to a server (all files in the project, only recently changed files, or you can select them individually), and it color codes your HTML! It also understands JavaScript and PHP (my favorite server-side tool), so all your code is colored appropriate to the language being used. Linux has many nice things for a webdesigner.one of my goals in getting into Linux was to try to get away from M$ totally. Gimp for graphics and several fine FTP programs plus BlueFish have almost converted me totally. (Although I still use my M$ machine some--even writing this email on one as I am upgrading my Linux box from 233 mghz to 900mghz ~~fingers crossed~~hopefully it goes smoothly :) If you want a great HTML/Text editor for windows.. try NoteTabPro it is the best html/text editor I have ever used. Limited only by the amount of RAM in your machine. ~~~#1 reason I keep windows around. The developer is planning to eventually port this to Linux.probably won't be free..but will be worth every penny.and I'll be willing to be his first customer :) I used to use UltraEdit for Windows, but with my move to Linux, Quanta has become my favorite web editing tool. For plain text editing, vi in a Gnome terminal is my friend ;-) Dave -- I believe that Ronald Reagan will someday make this country what it once was... an arctic wilderness. -- Steve Martin msg81677/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [newbie] Mounting EXT2 Floppy
On Tue, 2001-11-13 at 09:13, Carl Lafferty wrote: You are on the right track. By fedault, Mandrake creates an fstab entry for the floppy with the fat (DOS) filesystem. You can create another fstab entry for the same device (using the ext2 filesystem), just give it a different name (and thus a different directory under /mnt). I had wondered if I could do that. So will that allow my icon to work? No, you will need to create a separate icon for the Linux/ext2 floppy. Dave -- Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later. -- F. Brooks, The Mythical Man-Month Whenever one person is found adequate to the discharge of a duty by close application thereto, it is worse execute by two persons and scarcely done at all if three or more are employed therein. -- George Washington, 1732-1799 msg81463/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Mounting EXT2 Floppy
On Tue, 2001-11-13 at 08:24, Carl Lafferty wrote: it occured to me the other day to try mounting a floppy on which I had created an EXT2 file system. I can mount the floppy with mount /dev/fd0 /floppy -t ext2 as root and things work OK but under no circumstances can I mount it from my floppy icon. I don't have my fstab here but if it is required I can post it tonight or tomorrow. You are on the right track. By fedault, Mandrake creates an fstab entry for the floppy with the fat (DOS) filesystem. You can create another fstab entry for the same device (using the ext2 filesystem), just give it a different name (and thus a different directory under /mnt). Dave -- Blessed be those who initiate lively discussions with the hopelessly mute, for they shall be know as Dentists. msg81467/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] good clear home networking documentation?
On Sat, 2001-11-10 at 17:56, Paul Rodríguez wrote: anybody know of any good, easy to understand home networking documentation? Specifically for connecting two Linux computers through a hub or router? The networking HOWTO? Dave -- An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. PGP signature
Re: [newbie] problems with staroffice6beta
On Sat, 2001-11-10 at 20:56, tek1 wrote: i installed staroffice6beta in /usr/bin/staroffice6beta/ when logged in as root. when i log in using my (non-root) normal user account to try to run staroffice, i get the following message: the program cannot be started. the configuration file '.sversionrc' does not support the current version. start setup application to check installation? Yes/No also, when i install staroffice, is it suppose to automatically create a program group called staroffice on the kmenu (for kde desktops)? if not, how should i do this? Did you install Star Office with the /net switch? That is, did you run the installer from the command line, like this: # so-6_0-beta-bin-linux-en.bin /net Using the /net switch will setup Star Office in network mode, so that each user may then have their own personal configuration of Star Office. You may then run Star Office from the link in the staroffice6.0/ directory, which resides in your home directory. Star Office tries to create menu items in your KDE menu, however because Mandrake uses a special menu system, Star Office menu items will not appear -- you need to create them yourself, with Mandrake's menu editor. I should mention that in Gnome, a Star Office sub-menu with several items did appear, under the Favorites menu (which is part of Gnome, and not related to the special Mandrake menu system). Dave -- I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven't got the guts to bite people themselves. -- August Strindberg PGP signature
Re: [newbie] limit of cat5 cables? (length)
On Sat, 2001-11-10 at 16:37, Paul Rodríguez wrote: Hi, everybody. I have a DSL connection coming in to the upstairs computer. I'd like to connect (withought having to get a new modem) a computer downstairs to the same connection. Can I send a cat5 cable down throught the wall from the router to the downstairs computer? (approx. 30-40 feet) Is there a limit to cat5 length in order to remain effective? Do I need a wireless solution? is that even safe? Cat 5 cable does have a range limit, but it something like 100 meters, so you are well within its capabilities. I am currently looking into wireless for my home, because my wife can't stand the cables I have running between the network hub and three computers, across our living room. The only downside I can see is the initial cost... and even that's not too bad, but my expendable cash at the moment is nil :-( Dave -- Fourth Law of Revision: It is usually impractical to worry beforehand about interferences -- if you have none, someone will make one for you. msg81299/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] re: staroffice
On Thu, 2001-11-08 at 23:15, Harry Ablejoy wrote: Dave i did default install and clicked on soffice still will not open like linux but installing software will take a little time for me. Thanks Can you run it from the command line? Open a console, and type in the full path to soffice, which would look like this on my laptop: [dave@dedannshae dave]$ /usr/local/staroffice6.0/program/soffice If Star Office launches, great! All you need to do is create a launcher icon on your desktop, that points to soffice. If Star Office does not launch, I would recommend uninstalling (just delete the whole staroffice6.0 directory), and then reinstall with the /net switch. This must all be done as root, of course. After StarOffice is installed, you can logout and login as a regular user, then run the setup program per my previous message, and choose the network install option to configure it for personal use. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Dave -- ... we must be wary of granting too much power to natural selection by viewing all basic capacities of our brain as direct adaptations. I do not doubt that natural selection acted in building our oversized brains -- and I am equally confident that our brains became large as an adaptation for definite roles (probably a complex set of interacting functions). But these assumptions do not lead to the notion, often uncritically embraced by strict Darwinians, that all major capacities of the brain must arise as direct products of natural selection. -- S.J. Gould, The Mismeasure of Man msg81115/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 9.5
On Thu, 2001-11-08 at 16:01, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday 08 November 2001 10:38 am, Dave Sherman wrote: One thing with upgrading Mozilla, be aware that Mandrake installs it in a non-standard location. I beg to differ Mozilla wants to install to /usr/local/mozilla, but Mandrake puts it in /usr/lib/mozilla -- why, I don't know. Do Google on 'Linux Standard Base' Mandrake puts moz where it belongs. ~ $ which mozilla /usr/bin/mozilla I'm not talking about the plain binary, but the installation directory. Dave -- Fifth Law of Applied Terror: If you are given an open-book exam, you will forget your book. Corollary: If you are given a take-home exam, you will forget where you live. msg81033/pgp1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Star office ?
On Thu, 2001-11-08 at 21:09, Harry Ablejoy wrote: Hi need a little help. Installed star office 6.0 but not anywhere on my desktop kde . I can't make it work at all any help please Harry, If you did a default install of StarOffice 6.0, then it is installed into /usr/local/staroffice6.0/. From this directory, you can go to the program subdirectory, and run soffice to launch Star Office. If you did a network install (using the /net switch when running the installer), then go to the same program subdirectory, and run setup. This will allow you to install a minimal configuration (about 1.4 MB) into your home directory, with a staroffice6.0 directory created, and you can then launch soffice from there. Hope this helps, Dave -- When anyone says `theoretically,' they really mean `not really.' -- David Parnas msg81046/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie] gdm broken in 8.1?
Hello everyone, I was just wondering if anyone else has had this problem: I switched from using kdm to gdm for my login manager, since I prefer the Gnome desktop. However, gdm fails to remember my last session, and also resets the default session to kde every time I reboot (it's a laptop, so I reboot often). Needless to say, this gets a bit annoying, that I must set it to use Gnome every time I login to the system. When I was using Mandrake 7.2, both gdm and kdm worked fine. Kdm works fine in 8.1, but gdm is definitely screwed up. I can see that there is a file in my ~/.gnome/ directory (session or something like that) which contains the last session I was in. However, gdm is apparently ignoring this. And of course, if I set the default to Gnome, it resets when I reboot the system. Anyone else run into this? Is there a fix? Dave msg81156/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga SOLVED!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul, comments below... On Wednesday 24 October 2001 00:05, Paul Schwebel spouted off about Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga SOLVED!: Dave and Paul, I'm not sure what fixed things. I reinstalled Mandrake last night because I have played around with so many files that I wasn't sure of the original state of the install. Understandable. I've done the same thing myself, in the past. I made sure I had bind utilities installed, and carefully configured my rp-pppoe software, initially with NO firewall, since the instructions for adsl-setup said that if I selected a firewall setting AND I had any servers running, that no traffic would pass. Since I don't know how to tell if I have any servers running (do you?) I said NONE for the firewall setting. If you don't know, then you probably aren't running anything you want others to be able to see. It is very possible that Mandrake has enabled one or more servers by default, but you are safe using a firewall to block them. I would highly recommend going into Mandrake's Control Panel and setting up a firewall. But first, read the firewall-howto (in the Documentation section, in the HOWTOs). The howto is a bit out of date (uses ipchains instead of iptables), but at least you will gain a grasp of what is going on under the covers when you create a firewall using Mandrake's tool. Now, everything works! DNS, mail, everything. I set up my login and my wife's login. Everything looks good. Now I can post the newbie group about something else! Congratulations, and have fun with your new Linux system. Dave - -- I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today. -- Will Rogers -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE71q9AA68l26XsZUYRAoohAJ9l6n+3vexSH1UjA/GtDKcwGXMcXwCfZuOQ TTYL6JYcaksEuJIbsecJYDU= =FJ4m -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Circular dependancies?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 23 October 2001 16:53, David Johnson spouted off about [newbie] Circular dependancies?: Here begins my problem: When I try to install the Galeon rpm, I get: [root@pengo packages]# rpm -i galeon-0.12.1-2mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: GConf = 1.0.4 is needed by galeon-0.12.1-2mdk mozilla = 0.9.4 is needed by galeon-0.12.1-2mdk So I went and downloaded the GConf 1.0.4 rpm and attempt to install that: [root@pengo packages]# rpm -i GConf-1.0.4-2mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: libGConf1 = 1.0.4 is needed by GConf-1.0.4-2mdk libdb-3.2.so is needed by GConf-1.0.4-2mdk So I download the libGConf 1.0.4 rpm and when I install it, I get: [root@pengo packages]# rpm -i libGConf1-1.0.4-2mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: GConf = 1.0.4 is needed by libGConf1-1.0.4-2mdk Is this my fault for trying to install from the 8.1 RPM's or should I be able to do this? Sometimes you need to assume that you are more intelligent than RPM ;-) In this case, you can use the --nodeps option to tell RPM to ignore dependencies. I don't recommend using it when it's not absolutely necessary, but in this case I think it is. Use the --nodeps option to install libGConf first (and also install libdb-3.2, preferably without using the nodeps option unless necessary). Something like this: #rpm -U --nodeps libGConf1-1.0.4-2mdk.i586.rpm Notice also, that I used option -U rather than -i. This way, you ensure that if such a package already exists on your system (unlikely, but possible), you will Upgrade it properly. And if no package exists, then RPM is smart enough to treat the 'U' as an 'i'. I also like to add options 'vh' ('-Uvh') as well, so I get verbose messages from RPM, and I see hash marks (a text-based progress bar) during the upgrade/install. - From there, GConf should be able to install without the nodeps option, and so on. Dave - -- You can't have everything... where would you put it? - -- Steven Wright -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE71fMFA68l26XsZUYRAh6aAKDe8vbR1TXQkpvqJYtaCtJRGU2QZQCfVwYs utAZ2dRGYrz+D+65hv+9LN8= =NTc+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File/Printer Sharing with Windows
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 21 October 2001 23:37, Ron Allen opined on the topic: [newbie] File/Printer Sharing with Windows I need to be able to have two-way file access with Windows machines on the same network as my Linux box. I also must be able to print from my Linux box to a printer connected to a Windows machine on the network. Someone suggested I look at Samba, but I'm having trouble finding how to install it. I'm pretty much a total newbie on Linux, so maybe some general help in this area would be helpful. What I have read about Samba so far seems to say that it is used for sharing files coming in and printers that are attached to the Linux machine, but I need two-way file sharing and the only printer is connected to a Windows machine and can not be moved. Will Samba do what I want or do I need to look elsewhere? Setup: two machines running Windows ME and one machine running Mandrake Linux 8.0 (the Power Pack boxed set if that matters), on a standard ethernet network connected through a NetGear RT314 router. The printer, a HP LaserJet 5p, is connected directly to one of the Windows machines and is shared for all machines on the network to use. All machines are also connected to the Internet through the router, which is connected to a 3Com 'tailfin' cable modem on a 768K/128K pipe. The Internet connection works fine under Linux, so I believe the network is setup and operating correctly on the Linux machine. Thanks for any help, Ron Ron, Samba can do everything you need. It can act as a full-blown Primary Domain Controller, if you want (emulating an NT server). To see if Samba is installed, run the following command in an xterm rpm -qa|grep samba (The vertical line is the pipe, usually above the backslash on your keyboard.) This shows my own output: [dave@dedannshae dave]$ rpm -qa|grep samba samba-client-2.2.1a-15mdk samba-2.2.1a-15mdk samba-common-2.2.1a-15mdk I am running Mandrake 8.1, so the version numbers may be slightly different. But as long as you have samba-client, samba-common, and samba, you should be fine. Installing is as simple as running Mandrake's Control Center, going to the Software Manager, and searching for Samba. If it needs to be installed, then you can just click the Install button, and the Software Manager will prompt you for whichever CD it needs to install the software. Once Samba is installed, there is a single configuration file called smb.conf, which resides in /etc. You must be root to edit this file. You can also use SWAT, and web-based config tool, but I have not had much luck with that. Besides, the text file really isn't very complicated, and it is commented pretty well. You can also 'man smb.conf' in an xterm, which will give you everything you need. Finally, I would be happy to send you one of my own smb.conf files, so you have a working example. My network includes a Win98 PC for my wife (and for me, for some games), my Linux laptop (which runs Samba), and a server running Samba plus a bunch of other services. Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE71CGFA68l26XsZUYRAorWAKCShwUfO5fV2kVbD5Z/+mfHCdSkZQCg4Dfi 2CnHKtPTxAiWreBRTMxzvrs= =wxbo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 22 October 2001 10:13, Paul Schwebel opined on the topic: Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues Dave, Thanks for the clarification on my questions. Earthlink/Mindspring has 3 nameservers for their Mindspring customers (of which I am one). They are: 207.69.188.185 207.69.188.186 207.69.188.187 I use the first two in my resolv.conf files and in the rp-pppoe setup. I can ping these numbers. Also, I can't seem to connect with their email servers, pop.mindspring.com and smtp.mindspring.com, so I'm not sure this is strictly a DNS problem, unless DNS is also required to resolve these names. Hmm, now that I think about it, I guess DNS must be involved. Yes, you do need DNS to resolve those, too ;-) Is there a simple 'enable DNS' checkbox that I've missed? No, Linux should try to use DNS by default, as long as you have the IP addresses in your resolv.conf. You will need bind-utils installed. Do this in an xterm: rpm -qa|grep bind and see if you get a bind-utils package. If not, you will need to install it. If you know what bind is (a full DNS server), then you may guess that bind-utils is just a set of tools for domain name resolution and other information gathering. Now, I used to have a SuSE distribution (7.1), but I switched to Mandrake because of what appeared to be a more user friendly wrapper around the OS. I was able to connect with SuSE on the box, and I can connect under Win, so I'm not having a hardware issue. I have only used SUSe once, and it was a 6.x version. Back then (a couple of years ago), it seemed pretty good, but I ended up switching to Caldera, and then switching to Mandrake at the suggestion of a friend. Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE71JYUA68l26XsZUYRAsO5AKCSJa05bH14LFCwsLwn5UjJ1mM8MACg3GIP ak7eZasT8/EGvnk2KtXVFW4= =Yf1X -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 21 October 2001 21:24, Paul Schwebel opined on the topic: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues I'm using the rp-pppoe gui. When I start the link, the gui appears to connect, that is, it goes 'green'. However, I can't connect with either a Web browser, or any mail client. I have checked /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/ppp/resolv.conf and they have the correct entries for Mindspring's DNS servers. But, I CAN ping various web sites using their IP addresses. If you can ing using an IP address but not using a domain name, then the problem almost certainly is in the domain resolution. Now, an ifconfig brings up the following info: [root@localhost root]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:DA:7C:BC:C7 UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:67 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:97 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:5849 (5.7 Kb) TX bytes:12355 (12.0 Kb) Interrupt:10 Base address:0xec00 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:347 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:347 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:39039 (38.1 Kb) TX bytes:39039 (38.1 Kb) I'm wondering if that 'lo' entry is the problem. My recollection of local loopback means that the PC is only sending IP to itself? I'm not sure why I can ping, unless the loopback doesn't apply to ICMP packets. In any case, if this is a problem, can someone tell me? Also, if it IS the problem, how do I get rid of it permanently? I've looked thru linuxconf and several man pages to no avail! LO is needed, even if you are not connected to a network. The reason is that Linux runs lots of network-aware apps (including X Windows), and they need some sort of network to run properly. The local loopback provides this, in lieu of a real network. But even if you have a real network connection, you still need the local loopback. Also, in the HOW-TO-CONNECT doc for rp-pppoe they say DO NOT configure the card to come up at boot time. How do I do this? Go into Control Center, open the Services, and disable Networking on boot. AND here's another possible cause of my problem. Is httpd supposed to be running? When I do a 'ps -A' while rp-pppoe is connected I get this: Now, httpd is nowhere to be found. Should it be there? httpd is the Apache web server daemon. You do not need it for your PC to be connected to the Internet. Sorry for the length of the post, but I wanted to be as detailed as a newbie can be about my suspicions and my questions. No problem. Like I said above, the problem is almost certainly with your domain resolution. Either your PC is unable to reach the DNS servers you specified, or else the DNS servers are not responding. What are the IP addresses of Mindspring's DNS servers? Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7044LA68l26XsZUYRAtJSAJ9j9RGDVhACqNLW5YLX+GNsSVF3SACgl7jx I/gHLqMZ7o2egnpL/MhgCKI= =hPFs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Upgrade from Professional 8.0 to 8.1?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 20 October 2001 13:09, Andrew Dinnie opined on the topic: [newbie] Upgrade from Professional 8.0 to 8.1? Qns: a. I am not clear on how simple/complex the 8.1 from 8.0 upgrade will be (assuming i select the appropriate options from the 8.0 install such as the reiser file system, etc). Can i just point at a (say FTP) site using APT, download the required 8.1 upgrades, additional products, etc, allow for them to compile, etc? Are the products easily identifiable and installable on masse (as with Debian upgrades using DEB) or is it a real nightmare scenario to find, download, compile, update/reconfigure, etc? I successfully upgraded from 7.2 to 8.1, so I would think that the smaller change from 8.0 to 8.1 would be even easier. Mandrake has a Software Manager that is similar to Debian's apt-get, but uses RPMs instead. You just point it at a nearby Mandrake mirror, and it will get you all the upgrades you need. b. Do the More than 2300 Open Source applications on 7 CDs available in the 9.0 PowerPack for 8.0 come with the Professional Pack for 8.0? Don't know. Many thanks in advance. Andrew Personal advice: Just go with 8.1, even if it means waiting a bit. I have heard enough stories of bugs in the 8.0 release, that I would not want to try it. In fact, I didn't -- I waited until 8.1 was available for download, and then upgraded straight to that. Aside from having to reinstall Opera (web browser), it went fine. Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE70cGAA68l26XsZUYRAihtAKCEsUG4ho4aNYlSF32wL/YrqRXt2QCfdfJy NpiTUWp055VExSTvAFTCyJs= =tqwl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 19 October 2001 12:17, Paul Schwebel opined on the topic: [newbie] DSL and 8.1 I'm using Mandrake 8.1 and thouroughly enjoy it. I'm trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a hardware connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a standalone Linux box. Is the DSL modem an external modem/router/bridge, or an internal card? I will assume an external DLS modem... I'm a bit confused by the set up process using the Mandrake Control Center. It detects my NIC (3com 3c90x) without a problem, but it gives me set up options that I don't understand: under the NetworkInternet - Connection settings of the Control Center, it has one section called Internet Access and another called LAN configuration. Now, I'm on a standalone machine. Do I need to configure both of these to get to the Internet thru the DSL modem attached to my NIC? Just use the LAN Configuration. Ignore the other options. I also tried Roaring Penguin's software. It appears to connect, but then I can't actually ping anything or use any of the browsers that come with Mandrake. Using the LAN connection setup, you don't really need PPPOE. Also, if this isn't too much to ask, I'd also like to know the _process_. That is, in M$Windows, I know what files are involved in the TCP/IP configuration, and I know where to look. I don't have a clear idea of the same thing on Linux, and a lot of the man pages and HOWTOs appear to be written with a lot of *nix knowledge assumed. I have DSL at home, with an external DSL modem/router, and it works like this: The DSL router (which is really what it is) acts as my default gateway. It connects to my ISP all by itself, and it contains all the user, password, etc. information it needs to do this automatically. I can completely ignore it. My various PCs (one Windows, one RedHat Linux server that does DHCP for me plus some other services, one Mandrake 8.1 laptop) all use the DSL router as their default gateway (this option is assigned by the DHCP server). They are all connected via a hub, and the router is also on the hub. Pretty basic, right? You are even more basic, just a single PC with a crossover ethernet cable connecting you to your DSL router/modem. I need to make another assumption: your DSL modem is also acting as a router, and not a bridge. This means that it is also acting like a mini-firewall, masquerading your internal network (even if it is just one PC) from the external Internet. If it were a bridge, then your PCs would all need to have public IP addresses, and you would want a real firewall in place to protect them. Your router is probably also set up to do DHCP for you (mine was, but I disabled it) on your internal network. Therefore, you can choose a LAN Connection, and simply tell Mandrake to use DHCP for your NIC. And that's it. The DSL router (acting as a gateway and DHCP server) takes care of the rest. If you want the nitty-gritty on exactly which config files are used to set up your networking, consult the networking-howto. Hope this helps, Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE70GSHA68l26XsZUYRArr8AJ92Z4AH0tJOYhfYTFu00IHVAjnKhACbB3OU UTK9nqZMjzew5h1IYTyVQDU= =EW72 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 19 October 2001 15:08, Paul Schwebel opined on the topic: Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1 --- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 19 October 2001 12:17, Paul Schwebel I'm trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a hardware connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a standalone Linux box. Is the DSL modem an external modem/router/bridge, or an internal card? I will assume an external DLS modem... This is an external DSL modem. I'm fairly sure it's not a router, since my PC, formerly WinMe, was responsible for a user ID and password. If this is the case, then my advice is probably incorrect. Unfortunately, I haven't dealt with the type of DSL you have, so I don't think I can help... Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE70InTA68l26XsZUYRAjuOAJ9rTYn4dldTePOeNMJaZ6aG6wfqRwCdG0ca KzsBYH7a3mnkpgkqCFM/un4= =uL6V -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No sound in MDK 8.1?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 17 October 2001 11:56, Marco Paúl Mancheno Herrera. opined on the topic: Re: [newbie] No sound in MDK 8.1? Hi... I was in the same problem with my CMI8330, I used sndconfig and this app detects very well my card, but I don not why I couldn't hear anything... then I probe with sndconfig --noprobe --noautoconfigure and the detection was very well.. it make the necesary files for me Thanks, I actually did get the card going eventually. It was apparently conflicting with the IrDA port on my laptop, so I disabled that. Then, I had to tell KDE to use the Alsa driver rather than trying to autodetect -- for some reason, the autodetect was failing, and I only figured that out by accident. Anyway, I got sound now! Woohoo! Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7zx7IA68l26XsZUYRAtReAKDnNhoYE8INN9oBFPfiK104RlYG6wCdErqE wcaO8o5/WRfMZWnaQ4l2pTQ= =ti4n -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] did anybody test staroffice 6.0 beta?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 05 October 2001 03:47 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: While I'm here, here's a freebie :) Both StarOffice and OpenOffice ship with a limited set of true-type fonts, but you can get them to use your drakfont-imported fonts by making the following change to the soffice startup script (/path/to/staroffice6/program/soffice): Replace the line: SAL_FONTPATH_PRIVATE=$sd_fonts/truetype;$sd_fonts/type1;$sd_fonts/serve rfonts;$userinst/user/fonts with: SAL_FONTPATH_PRIVATE=$sd_fonts/truetype;$sd_fonts/type1;$sd_fonts/serve rfonts;$userinst/user/fonts;/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont;/usr/X11R6/ lib/X11/fonts/pcf_drakfont;/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives;/usr/share/fo nts/ttf/western Actually, Star Office can also import any fonts on a readable filesystem, using the spadmin program (in the same directory as the soffice binary). I imported all my Windows fonts in a matter of seconds, and all it did was make soft links to the fonts on the fat32 partition. You can also do a real copy of fonts, but I didn't see the point. The advantage of doing this is that in X, I only imported a few select fonts with DrakFont (fewer fonts keeps memory use down with xfs). But with StarOffice6.0, I grabbed every one I had. Dave - -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7vavgA68l26XsZUYRAquTAJ4nw/ppyRtFrc7ysAmh0JqdG4lZHwCgvpZ+ B0tn4Ys9AJCRCh2Tdpmfy/M= =Qu8x -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trouble understanding
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 26 September 2001 11:47 pm, CHEY wrote: Mandrake 7.2 don't know what exact kernel version. The stock kernel, included on the CD, is 2.2.17. There is an update available (using Mandrake Update) to 2.2.19. Dave - -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7syUDA68l26XsZUYRAkXcAJ9DU/MRRCjSqDR9x+qpW1kde9LvdQCfS7a7 UZt2esFxsvB47sZ9l9ntT6I= =EcYA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mozilla and gftp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 27 September 2001 02:06 am, Kevin Fonner wrote: I have found that I have problems from time to time when downloading files with mozilla... especially big files and also iso files. However I have found gFTP to be reletivly reliable when downloading files. Is their anyway that I can set Mozilla to open up gftp to download a file when I click on an ftp link o a file? Probably your best bet is to configure your desktop environment (either KDE or Gnome) to use gFTP for all ftp:// URLs. Unfortunately, this may not have an effect from within Mozilla, but in other apps it should. Not sure off-hand if Mozilla can be configured this way as well. Dave - -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7syYFA68l26XsZUYRAtWnAJ4zIL+lH2YMDpWZyuHU2/eJC76PQwCg44NA RVl7i4mlkCL+yTp9XhVWnd8= =HKej -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba Clients Passwords
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 September 2001 01:11 pm, Nicolás Gómez wrote: Windows 95. I wish that the 9x Machine enter to the Samba Machine like if it were entering in another Windows Machine.. OK, then as someone else said (Michael?), you will need to first make sure that your Windows PC is set up to use multiple User Profiles. The user may then login with a user id and password, and this information is sent to Samba when doing user authentication. It is probably best to make your Windows and Linux user ID's the same. Samba can map Windows - Linux, but why go to the extra work? Just use smbadduser to create your Samba users (same ID as for Windows), and also same password. Dave - -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7r3lFA68l26XsZUYRAjbJAJ9U2lp2Ex40aYGbCzu1NuehA9f24ACfUgob qdGrNLKzXPIcTBCakE0huRE= =nCBe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Running W$/DOS Apps on Samba
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 September 2001 01:34 pm, Nicolás Gómez wrote: Hi ... i have a question for you I have 4 windows 9x machines connected to a Mandrake 8.1 Release Candidate Server running samba The question is. Can the Windows Users run an app made for DOS/Windows on the Linux server and save their changes there?.. I know that Samba is like Novell... for sharing files and printers but I don't know if running an application for Windows in the Linux Server with Samba and save their work there could be possible If you are wondering if it is possible to run network applications for Windows from a Samba server, the answer is YES. Just install the software from a Windows workstation, specify whatever network install option you are given, and install the files onto the Samba server. You may need to map a network drive for your Windows PCs to use Samba properly in this fashion, but that is trivial. Dave - -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7r37WA68l26XsZUYRAkyHAJ9mfrJEUeAt/3iVF94iqea1YqZsYgCdHgie BP2l9aZsoF5bcIVMTWqYTnY= =oQz3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Login Manager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 September 2001 03:12 pm, Dave Naylor wrote: Hi Its annoying me that I cant figure this out, but how does one change from the default KDM Login Manager to say GDM? 1. Make sure that gdm is installed (it probably is). 2. Edit the file /etc/sysconfig/desktop, and change KDE to GNOME Dave - -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7r5aGA68l26XsZUYRAowtAJ9EshRimkTcriOn7bnYV13rrKL43gCePy7N F1vN5cUs3MgPchuDqKrOujU= =lF/Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Login Manager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 September 2001 03:35 pm, Dave Naylor wrote: Hi On Monday 24 September 2001 21:24, you wrote: Its annoying me that I cant figure this out, but how does one change from the default KDM Login Manager to say GDM? 1. Make sure that gdm is installed (it probably is). 2. Edit the file /etc/sysconfig/desktop, and change KDE to GNOME Hey I'd actually figured things out up to there by examing every script I could find. Thing is though, there isnt a /etc/sysconfig/desktop file? Whats the format? Interesting that you don't have such a file. In my desktop file, there is just a single word: KDE (GNOME also works to start gdm on my system, I have tried it, but decided I prefer kdm even though I run Ximian Gnome for my desktop). Dave - -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7r5slA68l26XsZUYRAuPkAJ4zYZXhs3jUYdP0Fvtd89Rr2QqZiQCfUmiz sCPg+Q5NuR8oKf14XX0ru5A= =qqmU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] browse directories with appache?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 September 2001 04:00 pm, Jon Doe wrote: Ok, how do I let my visitors browse files in a directory, so I don't have to build an html page for each directory and file? As of right now it keeps saying you don't have permission to acccess this directory This error means one of two things: 1. Your httpd.conf does not contain a proper Directory entry for the directory you are trying to access. OR (more likely?) 2. The directory itself has the rong permissions. Any directory that Apache is to read from needs *at least* 0755 permissions. This is because Apache falls under the set of Other permissions (the last digit above), and it needs both read and execute on any directory it is going to access. Files within that directory must be at least 644, so that Apache has at least read-only access. Once you can access a directory, Apache should create an index for you automatically, if it can't find an appropriate index.* file. HTH, Dave - -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7r6EaA68l26XsZUYRAkmtAKCs19Z1iaeghfvdublaDhLLO01trgCfRrDu Ank0oOOJa1Lwmnu3zWFF7T4= =AZ7X -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KOffice
Hello everyone, Just wondering if anyone here is using KOffice 1.1 in a business environment. Specifically, how well does it get along with MS Word and Excel? I would *really* like to migrate away from StarOffice 5.2, and it looks to me like KOffice is more mature than OpenOffice at this time. Any thoughts or opinions will be valued. Dave PGP signature
RE: [newbie] what is wrong with dependencies
On Tue, 2001-09-18 at 04:16, Franki wrote: I think two other things would help,. a gui and console tool that does smart tarball installs and updates the rpm database for that app, and one that can get dependencies for you,, (goes to a mandrake update site list...etc etc. or asks for the CD, or both) preferably the same app. Debian has apt-get, which does exactly this. Rpm still doesn't do it, although rpmdrake (front-end to grpmi, which actually does the work) does a decent job of it. But for packages which Mandrake does not create, rpmdrake will do you no good :-( and a self extracting tarball, (sort of like winzips self extracting file,, a new tarball format that can have a shell or perl script wrapper around the actual tarfile that untars and starts the install for you.. (then updates the RPM databse...downloads dependencies etc etc) even if it was 10% bigger then a standard tarball, people would go for it because of the ease of install and removal and smart installing features, [snip] As a matter of fact, I have seen such a beast. Nessus (www.nessus.org) comes in a self-installing shell script. Just download and run nessus.sh (or whatever it was called), and the script will run, which actually unzips and untars the file, then checks dependencies, configures, compiles, and installs. At the beginning, it asks for the root password, so it can complete the install later on. It is very slick. Dave PGP signature
Re: [newbie] apache question
On Sat, 2001-09-15 at 12:02, Jon Doe wrote: Ok, at one time I had apache up and running and serving pages. For some reason now I always just get a: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /index.htm on this server. Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/1.3.19 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 443 error. What am I doing wrong? I want to setup SSL and have usernames and passwords for each user. The users are not on my network they will use Internet access to get the pages. Any help? Do you already have SSL installed, and have you generated a digital certificate? You won't get anywhere without that. Dave PGP signature
Re: [newbie] memory buffering and disk defragmenter
On Sat, 2001-09-15 at 21:41, Lin wrote: hi, ever since I upgraded to Mandrake 7.2 I noticed the increase use of buffering under KDE, but when I do open a new program such as netscape I eventually ran out of memory and need to use disk swap - which the buffer really doesn't help... could anyone help me on how to disable the memory buffering under KDE? Hmm... Don't know much about this. My other question is that I tend to use disk defragmenter under windows, but after I switch over I realize I couldn't find anything like it under KDE... could anyone also help me how to run defragmenter with Mandrake? Linux uses a different filesystem than DOS/Win, called Ext2. This filesystem does not require defragmenting, because Linux maintains it real-time. You may occasionally need to run the filesystem checker (fsck), but you will be prompted to do so -- don't worry about running manually. Fsck is something like scandisk. Dave PGP signature
[newbie] OT: breaking news in USA
Two airplanes have crashed into the World Trade Center, twin towers, in Manhattan, New York. Another airplane has apparently crashed into the Pentagon. These have been attributed to terrorist attacks. PGP signature