Re: [opensuse-factory] Missing deps..20/12/07
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rajko M. schreef: On Thursday 20 December 2007 07:43:17 am M9. wrote: My queston: should zypper not uninstall the allready installed (older) version(s) first, and than install the newer version(s), or am i wrong here? You don't want that. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=301676 Ah yes, i clearly see the point now, thnx, won't ask again.. ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.24-rc5-git2-2-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha0 KDE: 3.5.8 release 25 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHa4HIX5/X5X6LpDgRAnwqAJ9h9ZVynjsF8t7tFxM0/g9/w6hFZACdG7Tu q0D+gVAkcRZ0qmW62MK+5ZY= =PExG -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] 21/12/07, Many unsatisfied deps, when zypper dup.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am looking for yast to be repaired, but it is nearly impossible to update now, every solution causes another problem atm. Does anyone know a solution for the Yast2 problem? After the update yesterday, it does not show when called upon. even the dos-version does not respond. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qa | grep yast2 yast2-storage-lib-2.16.6-7 yast2-pam-2.16.0-24 yast2-control-center-2.16.0-7 yast2-backup-2.16.1-3 yast2-ldap-client-2.16.5-3 yast2-metapackage-handler-0.7.3-13 yast2-qt-2.16.9-2 yast2-pkg-bindings-2.16.7-2 yast2-firewall-2.15.8-35 yast2-x11-2.15.11-56 yast2-printer-2.16.6-7 yast2-registration-2.16.0-15 yast2-nis-client-2.16.0-23 yast2-samba-server-2.16.0-27 autoyast2-2.16.3-3 yast2-trans-nl-2.15.12-2 yast2-slp-2.15.0-59 yast2-control-center-qt-2.16.0-7 yast2-bootloader-2.16.3-3 autoyast2-installation-2.16.3-3 yast2-hardware-detection-2.16.0-7 yast2-2.16.18-3 yast2-irda-2.15.1-122 yast2-scanner-2.15.5-70 yast2-ldap-2.15.1-108 yast2-sound-2.16.1-17 yast2-kerberos-client-2.16.1-3 yast2-security-2.15.1-52 yast2-repair-2.16.2-14 yast2-tune-2.15.7-51 yast2-users-2.16.5-3 yast2-sudo-2.15.3-118 yast2-update-2.16.1-15 yast2-trans-stats-2.15.0-46 yast2-country-data-2.16.4-3 yast2-core-2.16.16-2 yast2-nfs-client-2.15.0-52 yast2-mouse-2.16.0-13 yast2-ncurses-2.16.7-3 yast2-xml-2.16.0-10 yast2-apparmor-2.1-54 yast2-support-2.15.3-42 yast2-storage-2.16.6-7 yast2-ntp-client-2.16.2-9 yast2-tv-2.16.0-27 yast2-fingerprint-reader-2.16.2-3 yast2-installation-2.16.8-2 yast2-restore-2.16.0-15 yast2-add-on-2.16.0-22 yast2-inetd-2.15.1-72 yast2-perl-bindings-2.16.0-29 yast2-transfer-2.16.0-4 yast2-bluetooth-2.15.4-46 yast2-sysconfig-2.15.3-85 yast2-packager-2.16.12-3 yast2-online-update-2.16.6-3 yast2-network-2.16.17-3 yast2-samba-client-2.16.1-13 yast2-mail-2.15.23-34 yast2-control-center-gnome-2.13.2-127 yast2-schema-2.15.0-156 yast2-theme-openSUSE-2.16.1-2 yast2-runlevel-2.16.0-15 yast2-country-2.16.4-3 yast2-iscsi-client-2.16.2-9 yast2-online-update-frontend-2.16.6-3 yast2-profile-manager-2.16.0-14 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ Anyone sees something out of order here? - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.24-rc5-git2-2-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha0 KDE: 3.5.8 release 25 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHa5fYX5/X5X6LpDgRAvziAKC776m84TU9fnpia1x0zUk/WjIBXACfZMpE VtYbF+iDL3bjhmnrIUKthdc= =CIt8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 21/12/07, Many unsatisfied deps, when zypper dup.
Markus Koßmann wrote: The current dependency problem seems to be that there is a update to openldap-2.4 but there are still many packages , which have dependencies on libldap-2.3/liblber-2.3 Even more fun is that here suddenly the default fonts in all GTK/GNOME apps stopped working (KDE stuff still works fine). This means that also all Mozilla-based apps, xchat and others only display sqauers instead of characters to me. Whatever font this is I have for writing and displaying mail messages does only show up those squares for spaces and not for normal characters, so I can write thise message at least. I think this is the first time ever since summer or so when I started using FACTORY that it's completely unusable for my daily operations - and I so badly would need my computer working today :( Robert Kaiser - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 21/12/07, Many unsatisfied deps, when zypper dup.
Robert Kaiser wrote: Even more fun is that here suddenly the default fonts in all GTK/GNOME apps stopped working (KDE stuff still works fine). This means that also all Mozilla-based apps, xchat and others only display sqauers instead of characters to me. Whatever font this is I have for writing and displaying mail messages does only show up those squares for spaces and not for normal characters, so I can write thise message at least. I could solve this now with updating to the latest packages from the GNOME:UNSTABLE repository, but be careful with the current FACTORY repo (though I might just have caught some state in the middle of an update or such, one never knows on the bleeding edge). Robert Kaiser - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Publishing to non-oss repository?
Hello, What's the procedure to submit and publish a package to openSUSE official non-oss repository? Anyone specific to contact? The package is for a line of astronomy CCD cameras and filter wheels manufactured by SBIG, it includes a binary library and firmware for the camera. Redistribution is allowed and the RPM is ready for i586 and x86_64 platforms. Regards, Jasem - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Upgrade to 10.3
On 2007. 12. 21., Friday 05:39, Rodney Baker wrote: On Friday 21 December 2007 14:48:27 Joe Sloan wrote: Chris Arnold wrote: I use SLED SP1 and wonder if it is possible to upgrade from SLED to 10.3 without losing data on the hard drive? If so, can someone instruct me on how to do this? Do you really want to do that? sled is polished, it's a nice mature desktop. Sure, 10.3 will be more bleeding edge, newer packages, but I'm not sure I'd call it an upgrade - If you want to install a lot of new stuff though, os might be a better choice for you. With SLED unless you pay for a subscription you will only get security updates/patches for a limited time. That is one reason to use openSuse for personal/home use instead... You can always do a fresh install, telling it not to touch your /home partition. I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't just work, but OTOH 'm not sure an upgrade from sled to os is an officially supported action - but hey, it would be an interesting exercise. Be sure and let us know the results. I concur - almost. The problem with not formatting /home is that certain hidden folders hold your personal config files that may differ between versions. My advice (having done this recently going from another distro to 10.3) is to: 1. Backup /etc to catch any custom configs that you may have done (e.g. cron files, spam filter configs, X11 configs, samba configs etc) 2. Backup your /home folders for each user of the machine 3. Backup any other custom config files that you may need and any downloaded files that you need to keep (e.g. for apps that you want to reinstall that are not inlcluded in the distro) that are not stored in your /home folder 4. Note the UID/GID for each existing user and group on the machine. 5. If you're using a custom partition layout and you want to keep it the same, print a copy of /etc/fstab (or just copy down the output from 'mount') to refer to during the install. In my case I had 4 partitions that had data stored (other than /home) that I wanted left alone and mounted in the same place. 6. Do a clean install formatting all partitions including /home. 7. Recreate the users and any additional groups using the same UID/GID's as before. You may get away with just copying back /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow and /etc/group back from your backup but I prefer to recreate the users specifying the UID/GID for each user/group. 8. Merge any custom configs from your /etc backup to the relevant files on the new install. 9. Copy the user data from the /home backups to the new /home folders (including files such as .procmailrc if you used it and things like configs for evolution, kmail etc.). 10. Test the system and make sure that you haven't missed anything. There may be others on the list with better suggestions but this process worked for me. I just upgraded from FC6 to 10.3 by going through this process and everything went pretty smoothly (with only a few minor glitches that were easily sorted). Steps 1 2: Look also into other directories. A lot of things are stored under /var, e.g. mysql databases in /var/lib/mysql, crontabs under /var/spool/cron etc. There is also the default web server directory under /srv/www/htdocs Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Fwd: EXT3 partition access on Windows?
0verl0ad schrieb: Hi list, I am now completely onto the Linux OS (openSUSE 10.3). I removed Windows XP from system except that I have it installed on VMware and VirtualBox for some apps that WINE can't run and for college projects purpose. Now I have all the partitions in the EXT3 format. I want my external devices to be in ext3 format. However I want to access them in the R/W mode under other Windows OS. Is there any app so that I can do that? Use fat32 for the external device. Otherwise you will have problems using the device with other systems when visting for example friends. -- i.A. Ralf Prengel Customer Care Manager Comline AG Hauert 8 D-44227 Dortmund/Germany Fon +49231 97575- 904 Fax +49231 97575- 905 EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.comline.de Vorstand Stephan Schilling,Erwin Leonhardi Aufsichtsrat Dr. Franz Schoser (Vorsitzender) HR Dortmund B 14570 USt.-ID-Nr. DE 124727422 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Fwd: EXT3 partition access on Windows?
0verl0ad wrote: Hi list, I am now completely onto the Linux OS (openSUSE 10.3). I removed Windows XP from system except that I have it installed on VMware and VirtualBox for some apps that WINE can't run and for college projects purpose. Now I have all the partitions in the EXT3 format. I want my external devices to be in ext3 format. However I want to access them in the R/W mode under other Windows OS. Is there any app so that I can do that? http://www.fs-driver.org/ works also with ext3 use fat32 only if you want the device to be read by standard usb readers (not youe linux computer) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Install 10.3 on drive with the recover on it
Chris Arnold wrote: I am gonna try to explain this as clear as possible. I have an IBM thinkpad T43 and it has that other OS installed. It also has the recovery part on the hard drive that i do not want to destroy (as they did not ship recovery cd's with this system). I want to install suse 10.3 onto this ibm laptop without destroying the recovery section of the drive. The last time i tried this, i could not figure out how to do this without wipping-out the recovery section on the drive. Can anyone explain how to do this without formatting the entire drive? if you happen to have windows vista, it's very easy: vista knows howto shrink its partitions. So create one for Linux. no matter where it is. after that, openSUSE installs without problem. Do *not* try the expert partition mode if you are not an expert (and if you where you had not posted this question), this is the better way to lose something. Of course, much better backing up your recover partition if possible - my acer had the utility to di that (and I burned it twice) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Fwd: EXT3 partition access on Windows?
jdd wrote: 0verl0ad wrote: Hi list, I am now completely onto the Linux OS (openSUSE 10.3). I removed Windows XP from system except that I have it installed on VMware and VirtualBox for some apps that WINE can't run and for college projects purpose. Now I have all the partitions in the EXT3 format. I want my external devices to be in ext3 format. However I want to access them in the R/W mode under other Windows OS. Is there any app so that I can do that? http://www.fs-driver.org/ works also with ext3 use fat32 only if you want the device to be read by standard usb readers (not youe linux computer) jdd fat 32 is really bad, as soon as you handle a large collection of files and/or large and it is slow. I use a ntfs partition on my otherwise ext3 formatted usb disk instead. This is because I do not have friends that still are on win 9x. Apart from one that I'll visit today and try to convert her to Linux. ;-)). I once tried to transfer 120 GB of music from win XP to a fat32 formatted external disk and it took days and nights. With ntfs it worked within one evening. Kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Fwd: EXT3 partition access on Windows?
Eberhard Roloff wrote: fat 32 is really bad, as soon as you handle a large collection of files and/or large and it is slow. it's necessary if you want the drive to be seen by desktop non computer devices (dvd readers... TV slots) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. schreef: The Thursday 2007-12-20 at 13:29 -0600, Kevin Dupuy wrote: OK, here's the issue: you're not most people. I'm not most people. All of us subscribed to this mailing list are probably not most people. And most people don't name their files orderly, and put them in logical places. I've seen people who write something about a project about the Civil War and name it project.doc. I would name it Civil War Project.odt, and that person put the file in their My Pictures folder because that's where the Save dialog box is open to. They are the people who would benefit most from Beagle, and that's also about 90% of the computing population, so if openSUSE wants to reach that 90%, it a good idea to have Beagle installed by default and turned on. True enough. Hint; if you: touch ~/.dontrunbeagle then it will not run for that user. So I understand. :-) -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. I remember that one off the first things i did, when using 10.3, was uninstall beagled, and all alike them... The difference? I could use my PC when i saw fit, and not when after half an hour my mouse was moving a littele again.. I never missed one bit of it.. ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.24-rc5-git2-2-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha0 KDE: 3.5.8 release 25 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHa4CXX5/X5X6LpDgRAtdsAKC0UdCjGmiwKSuhYt4XisV2GUNt1ACgq6c1 ZIuBWLuc+jx1oVOyq9d2eBg= =9cOb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Real-Time Kernal Questions
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 23:54 +0100, Wolfgang Woehl wrote: Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2007 Hans Witvliet: Many years ago i used a RT-os, But when seeing you asking for videodrivers and vmware.. For real RT-applications, you should want to avoid unneeded IRQ's at all time: barebone, no graphics (but serial console), no virtualisation, no add-on hardware and as much as possible unneeded io on your mobo disabled. On linux kernels you can sort and prioritize IRQ's. They're called Interrupt requests for a reason. If the realtime infrastructure is up and healthy then there's really no reason for your realtime applications to not deliver -- no matter what is going on on your desktop. Well, the rt-application could suck, for that matter. Multiple rt-action might drain ressources. Hell, the metal could run hot :) And I don't know about hardware level virtualization and its effects on irq handling. Wolfgang ps: What was the OS/application you were using? Yes, well, i have to agree with the O.P. Some applications do need a graphical interface, But to use vmware on a rt-machine because the hardware is not supported by linux Well, i don't know. Probably it is not possible to seperate these functions into a seperate box.. For what i was using R.T.? The OS was (a cloned) mtos, and was used for frequency analysis (dtmf and dialtone recognition) for telefone exchanges, back in 85. hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Upgrade to 10.3
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007, Chris Arnold wrote:- snip Yes, i like SLED but i keep running into programs that i can not install b/c it requires newer packages than SLED has. Gtkpod and gpodder to name only 2 of them! Gpodder 0.10.3 requires newer python- cairo and pango. I tried to update these using the gnome:stable repo and it just breaks the entire system. SLED is based upon SUSE 10.1, which should make for a more complex upgrade than upgrading from openSUSE 10.2. That's not to say that it's not possible to do, since it is. What's more, it should be much easier than both the 9.3 and 10.0 to 10.3 upgrades I recently performed. If you're interested, you can find how I performed the 10.0 upgrade, including what to watch out for here: URL:http://www.davjam.org/lifetype/index.php?op=ViewArticlearticleId=16blogId=1 While it's not going to be the same, it's going to give you a good idea what to watch for. I don't like the slow dev on SLED and want to have something that works. The reason for the slow development of SLED is because of its target environment. It's not aimed towards the home user, but more to the corporate desktop. That's where it's supposed to just work, and are likely to be maintained by someone other than the user who don't want to do much in the way of making things work. The openSUSE releases are aimed more towards the home user, and they're more likely to want the latest and greatest version of a program. I will probable just do a fresh install. As suggested, if and when you do the fresh install, add the old /home but make sure the installation system doesn't format it. That way you keep everything there without having to restore from a backup, and the installation system should be kind enough to keep all the user accounts and login details[0] so you won't have to recreate them. [0] Just a little off-topic, but the 10.2, and later, installation system will even keep the details from other Linux distributions if you overwrite them. At least, it did when I overwrote an old Fedora Core 5 installation with openSUSE 10.2. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: http://www.distributed.net/ OGR-P2 @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~15Mkeys | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit | openSUSE 10.3 32bit SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit | RISC OS 3.11 | RISC OS 3.6 | TOS 4.02| openSUSE 10.3 PPC -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KMail/IMAP question
Rodney Baker wrote: Hi all. Not sure if this is directly relevant to Suse or whether I should be asking this on a kde-related list but here goes. I'm using KMail 1.9.6 on 10.3 (KDE 3.5.7) running a Dovecot IMAP server so that I can access my email from my desktop or a couple of laptops on the lan. For some reason the size value in the folder list (I assume this is the size of each mail folder?) does not reduce in value when messages are deleted from a folder, but continues to increase each time a new message is received. For example I currently have 5 messages in my inbox totalling around 24k in size but the folder list tells me that my inbox is 915kB. I don't know if this is a bug with KMail and the way it interacts with IMAP servers, if it is a bug with dovecot perhaps reporting incorrectly to KMail or what. I have previously tried running Cyrus IMAP but gave up on that a couple of years ago - dovecot was so much easier to get running. Whilst this isn't a showstopper (and I can get around it by disabling the size column in the folder list), I'm wondering if anyone else on the list is running a similar setup and may have noticed this behaviour (perhaps even with a different IMAP server)? When you delete a mail in your imap account the mail is only marked with the delete flag. Only when you compress the folder (or whatever it is called in KMail) will the marked mails be expunged and removed from storage. It's a feature, not a bug. (^-^) -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?
On Friday 21 December 2007 16:06:47 Rajko M. wrote: On Thursday 20 December 2007 09:15:15 pm Rodney Baker wrote: Notwithstanding the fact that Beagle created performance issues on your system, have you considered converting from MBox to Maildir format for your mail? This will increase performance both in terms of reading mail and also probably for Beagle (which probably tried to load your entire MBox file into memory in order to index your mail). It doesn't have to do that with Maildir since each mail is a separate file. Hi Rodney, Can you believe that I converted maildirs to mbox just to increase performace of KMail. Before I had to wait for hours until my huge Mail directory is imported in new installation, seconds to open opensuse@opensuse.org folder and using Kmail wasn't joy. Now all big folders are mbox format and I have no problems. Kmail and Beagle do not load whole mbox into memory. My mbox is 5 GB for opensuse@opensuse.org alone, and with 2 GB RAM and 2 GB swap I would have system crash every time I open KMail, if it would attempt to read whole file in a memory. In today systems it is not CPU problem, it is hard disk I/O operation what is slow, and also there is big difference in speed between data transfer when data are stored in one big file and many small. -- Regards, Rajko OK, I stand corrected. I found the opposite - using mbox it was much slower and less reliable, but that could be due to the fact that I was running dovecot IMAP locally so that I can access my email from different machines. The other advantage to maildirs as opposed to mbox (at least as I see it) is that if the mbox file becomes corrupt (for whatever reason), you can lose the lot, whereas with maildirs you lose only the affected email(s). Anyway, this is getting OT. I guess the lesson is YMMV depending on your installation and needs. Regards, Rodney. -- === Rodney Baker VK5ZTV [EMAIL PROTECTED] === -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Frozen Throne
There is World of Warcraft 2 and other games in wine-doors... You can give a try... 2007/12/21, Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 20 December 2007 13:35, Kaare Rasmussen wrote: Hi Can anybody help me make my kids happy? I would really like to run World of Warcraft and Frozen Throne work on OpenSUSE 10.3. Shouldn't it be possible to do with Wine? I've tried to set ir up and run Heroes III or IV but no luck. A quick howto would be welcomed :-) I play frozen bubble in openSUSE. Never heard of the others. Does that count? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [ ]'s Aledr - Alexandre OpenSource Solutions for SmallBusiness Problems -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Frozen Throne
I play frozen bubble in openSUSE. Never heard of the others. Does that count? I think that they already have finished all levels in Frozen Bubble :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Real-Time Kernal Questions
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 23:54 +0100, Wolfgang Woehl wrote: Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2007 Hans Witvliet: Many years ago i used a RT-os, But when seeing you asking for videodrivers and vmware.. For real RT-applications, you should want to avoid unneeded IRQ's at all time: barebone, no graphics (but serial console), no virtualisation, no add-on hardware and as much as possible unneeded io on your mobo disabled. On linux kernels you can sort and prioritize IRQ's. They're called Interrupt requests for a reason. If the realtime infrastructure is up and healthy then there's really no reason for your realtime applications to not deliver -- no matter what is going on on your desktop. Well, the rt-application could suck, for that matter. Multiple rt-action might drain ressources. Hell, the metal could run hot :) And I don't know about hardware level virtualization and its effects on irq handling. Wolfgang ps: What was the OS/application you were using? Hm, hit the button too soon. It's not that rt-applications suck and leave no reources for the rest, but the other way round. RT-applications, very often AV-applications, medical or control application must respond within a predefined time to a input-signal. Comes hell or high tide, no matter what, rt-applications just must. Multiple rt-actions (often re-entrant) shouldn't cause any problems. However, if you drain the available resources by non-rt-hardware, or used closed-source virtualisation, there might come a point where you can no longer prove that your application will always respond within the given time. This might cause distorted audio/video, or even loose a customer-contract. (something like: the safety-valve/medication was not released in time because the operators were playing tux-racer ;-) btw, it/s not without a reason that the developpers from asterisk seriously discourage the use of a X-environment on a pabx. But if that all does not apply, go ahead, startup gnome And as it's open, there might be a rt-xen-variant sooner than rt-extensions for vmware. hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Frozen Throne
Try this: http://www.blizzplanet.com/content/459/ There are links to instructions, I did not check this out fully. Google is your friend, I I did try something similar last time, to no avail. So I was hoping that someone here did have hands on experience. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KMail/IMAP question
On Friday 21 December 2007, Sandy Drobic said: When you delete a mail in your imap account the mail is only marked with the delete flag. Only when you compress the folder (or whatever it is called in KMail) will the marked mails be expunged and removed from storage. It's a feature, not a bug. (^-^) Correct. If you have 'automatically compact folders' checked in Configure Kmail..-Accounts-Receiving-Modify... (your account) this happens periodically. If this is not enabled, you need to use the Compact Folder action in each imap folder's context menu. Season's greetings from the KDE team! Will -- Desktop Engineer KDE Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 install on x86_64?
On Sunday 16 December 2007, Rajko M. said: On Sunday 16 December 2007 07:22:47 am Mike wrote: On Saturday 15 December 2007, Rajko M. wrote: Have you tried normal installation trough YaST, with included KDE4 repository? Yes, and that worked by itself. But when I then upgraded to the later KDE 4 software it would fail on starting. So I uninstalled everything and tried just the later software by itself as described in the referenced article. mike. I use zypper to update KDE4 packages. With YaST Software Management is more work to do the same because few packages doesn't follow naming kde4-package_name, but they are all listed with: zypper search kde4 and updated with: zypper update -t package Make sure that repository KDE4 is listed with zypper repos ... snip 5 | Yes | Yes | rpm-md |KDE4_1 | KDE4 ... snip If not add them with: zypper add-repo http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.3 KDE4 zypper up[date] -t package -r KDE4 is easier as it updates all the packages in the repo with alias 'KDE4'. NB this doesn't resolve new dependencies that are outside this repo so in the case of 'developing' repo like KDE:KDE4 you should be prepared to install any extra stuff we decide to depend on manually. HTH Will -- Desktop Engineer KDE Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] apache2 vs symbolic link on opensuse10.2
Hi Charles, I put the lines: Directory /srv/www/htdocs/devel/ Options Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory into file /etc/apache2/httpd.conf.local and put: Include /etc/apache2/httpd.conf.local into the file of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf . and finally do rcapache2 restart but the the result is still the same: Access forbidden! You don't have permission to access the requested object. It is either read-protected or not readable by the server. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 403 192.168.23.176 Fri Dec 21 19:59:06 2007 Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) Please keep telling me if any other possibilities. Thank you very much in advance. On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:52:01 +0800 Charles Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does it need configure directory's access permision? I'm not sure, just try it. :) Directory /srv/www/htdocs/devel/ Options Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory On Dec 20, 2007 3:39 AM, Patrik Hasibuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear my friends... I use opensuse10.2 and apache2. I want to put all of my code into my external usb harddisk (/media/disk). I want to use symbolic link for doing that. Here what I've done: 1. Under the /srv/www/htdocs/devel I create a symbolic link this way: suseonthelap:/srv/www/htdocs # ln -s /media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel ./devel 2. mkdir /media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel/tes 3. I created a very simple HTML code (index.html) and put under directory: /media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel/tes 4. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek chmod -Rv 777 /media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel mode of `/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx) mode of `/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel/tes' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx) mode of `/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel/tes/tes.html' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx) mode of `/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel/tes/tes.html~' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx) mode of `/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel/tes/index.html' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx) mode of `/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel/tes/index.html~' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek But my browser meets this error message as the result for url 'http://192.168.23.176/devel/tes': Access forbidden! You don't have permission to access the requested object. It is either read-protected or not readable by the server. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 403 192.168.23.176 Thu Dec 20 02:21:54 2007 Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) Anybody would be so nice for telling me where my mistake? Thank you very much in advance. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Frozen Throne
Kaare Rasmussen pecked at the keyboard and wrote: Try this: http://www.blizzplanet.com/content/459/ There are links to instructions, I did not check this out fully. Google is your friend, I I did try something similar last time, to no avail. So I was hoping that someone here did have hands on experience. Have you tried playing Rocks and Diamonds? It's a strategy game that I first played on an Atari 800 I owned (still own). -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. wrote: Notwithstanding the fact that Beagle created performance issues on your system, have you considered converting from MBox to Maildir format for your mail? This will increase performance both in terms of reading mail and also probably for Beagle (which probably tried to load your entire MBox file into memory in order to index your mail). It doesn't have to do that with Maildir since each mail is a separate file. He (Gary) is using Thunderbird, which I believe does not support maildir local folders. That's correct, which I assume is not that rare? That's the theory, but I have lots of large mboxes and I never lost one. I have about 40 boxes in subtrees varying from near nothing to 600Mb for the largest, but the total is between 2Gigs and 2.5Gigs. I don't think that sets any records, although I assume that it's probably above average. If Beagle can't index that with decent performance on my hardware, then I have to wonder what it's doing out of Beta. Right :-) -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. I just don't understand why it works so bad on such a good computer and an average data load. Gary Baribault -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHa8xA5BLKxPqBKDURAiQJAJ9CWmjAvg8NxePnv4msF/hVhZJxEACfVB3R V4PxWhiUQFLHrh2RHsPkPdE= =XBU5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenSuSE and LSI RAID controller
I have a server with an LSI 1030 RAID controller on the motherboard. It has two drives attached and set up to be mirrored. I booted from a SuSE 10.2 CD and installed and everything went great. After install, it ran for a couple of days, and I rebooted. Now it tells me Error loading operating system. I know this a rather vague error, but can anyone give me any pointers as to where I should start looking for trouble? Drew Burchett United Systems Software http://www.united-systems.com -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner and is believed to be clean. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] apache2 vs symbolic link on opensuse10.2
2007/12/21, Patrik Hasibuan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Charles, I put the lines: Directory /srv/www/htdocs/devel/ Options Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory into file /etc/apache2/httpd.conf.local and put: Include /etc/apache2/httpd.conf.local into the file of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf . and finally do rcapache2 restart but the the result is still the same: Access forbidden! You don't have permission to access the requested object. It is either read-protected or not readable by the server. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 403 192.168.23.176 Fri Dec 21 19:59:06 2007 Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) Please keep telling me if any other possibilities. Thank you very much in advance. On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:52:01 +0800 Charles Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does it need configure directory's access permision? I'm not sure, just try it. :) Directory /srv/www/htdocs/devel/ Options Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory On Dec 20, 2007 3:39 AM, Patrik Hasibuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear my friends... I use opensuse10.2 and apache2. I want to put all of my code into my external usb harddisk (/media/disk). I want to use symbolic link for doing that. Here what I've done: 1. Under the /srv/www/htdocs/devel I create a symbolic link this way: suseonthelap:/srv/www/htdocs # ln -s /media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel ./devel 2. mkdir /media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel/tes 3. I created a very simple HTML code (index.html) and put under directory: /media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel/tes 4. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek chmod -Rv 777 /media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel mode of `/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx) mode of `/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel/tes' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx) mode of `/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel/tes/tes.html' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx) mode of `/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel/tes/tes.html~' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx) mode of `/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel/tes/index.html' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx) mode of `/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek/devel/tes/index.html~' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/disk/suseonthelap/suse/rootdir/home/patrikh/arsip/proyek But my browser meets this error message as the result for url 'http://192.168.23.176/devel/tes': Access forbidden! You don't have permission to access the requested object. It is either read-protected or not readable by the server. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 403 192.168.23.176 Thu Dec 20 02:21:54 2007 Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) Anybody would be so nice for telling me where my mistake? Thank you very much in advance. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using the following configuration on my apache2 env: If you want to follow symlink in your web server root dir: Directory /srv/www/htdocs Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews AllowOverride All Order allow,deny allow from all /Directory If you want to enable symlink in some subdir of your web server root Directory /srv/www/somesubdir/ Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews AllowOverride None Order allow,deny allow from all /Directory You can try this way ;-) Valerio -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KMail/IMAP question
On Saturday 22 December 2007 00:10:23 Markus Koßmann wrote: Am Freitag, 21. Dezember 2007 schrieb Rodney Baker: Whilst this isn't a showstopper (and I can get around it by disabling the size column in the folder list), I'm wondering if anyone else on the list is running a similar setup and may have noticed this behaviour (perhaps even with a different IMAP server)? I'am seeing the same problem with my email providers's IMAP server, which calls itself GMX IMAP4 StreamProxy . So it doesn't seem to be a dovecot problem. And no, compressing the (sub)folder after moving/deleting emails from that folder doesn't change anything, the size remains the same. KMail version is 1.96 enterprise 0070904.708012 KDE 3.5.8 release 22.3 openSUSE With further investigation I have come to the conclusion that, when talking to an IMAP server (or, at least, a dovecot IMAP server using Maildirs for mail storage), the folder sizes shown in the folder list have no connection whatsoever with the amount of data actually stored in the relevant folder. A quick comparison of the output of du -h and the folder sizes in KMail confirm that. du -h 172K ./.APRS-Sig/cur KMail says 1.6kB 336K ./.Xastir/cur KMail says 1.6kB 452K ./.Repeater_Builder/cur Kmail says 2.2kB 20K ./.Yaesu-FT8900/cur Kmail says 1.2kB (with a 22kB email) 1.1M ./.OpenSuse/cur Kmail says 292.8kB 8.0K ./cur This is the Imap inbox - KMail says 916.2kB (with no mail) 11M ./.Laura/cur Kmail says 38kB 812K ./.Comics/cur Kmail says 27.4kB 136K ./.Radio_Mods/cur Kmail says 1.8kB This is just some of the maildir folders with read mail in them. Since the same symptoms occur with other IMAP implementations I would agree with Markus - it does not appear to be a dovecot-specific problem. Regards, Rodney. -- === Rodney Baker VK5ZTV [EMAIL PROTECTED] === -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KMail/IMAP question
On Friday 21 December 2007 22:22:37 Will Stephenson wrote: On Friday 21 December 2007, Sandy Drobic said: When you delete a mail in your imap account the mail is only marked with the delete flag. Only when you compress the folder (or whatever it is called in KMail) will the marked mails be expunged and removed from storage. It's a feature, not a bug. (^-^) Correct. If you have 'automatically compact folders' checked in Configure Kmail..-Accounts-Receiving-Modify... (your account) this happens periodically. If this is not enabled, you need to use the Compact Folder action in each imap folder's context menu. Season's greetings from the KDE team! Will -- Desktop Engineer KDE Team OK, I understand that, but when I look into the actual maildir folder (in this case, ~/Maildir/cur for read inbox items or ~/Maildir/new for unread), the only emails that exist are those that appear in the Inbox folder in KMail. Running Compress Folder has no effect - all deleted mails have been moved to the Trash folder and have then been deleted/expunged when the Trash folder has been emptied. 'Automatically compact folders' is checked in the settings dialog as instructed above (and has been from day 1). I have just deleted all items from my inbox, compacted the folder and checked that there are no files in ~/.Maildir/cur or ~/.Maildir/new and yet it still reports that the IMAP inbox size is 916.2kB. The same applies to other folders - it seems that KMail is incrementing the size each time a new mail is seen but never decrementing the size when a mail is deleted/expunged or moved to another folder. Unfortunately Evolution doesn't show folder sizes for comparison and Outlook only shows the local inbox size, not the IMAP inbox size. BTW, I checked to see if KMail was looking at a local cached copy of the imap folders and confirmed that it is not. Regards, Rodney. -- === Rodney Baker VK5ZTV [EMAIL PROTECTED] === -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-12-21 at 21:27 +1030, Rodney Baker wrote: On Friday 21 December 2007 16:06:47 Rajko M. wrote: On Thursday 20 December 2007 09:15:15 pm Rodney Baker wrote: Notwithstanding the fact that Beagle created performance issues on your system, have you considered converting from MBox to Maildir format for your mail? This will increase performance both in terms of reading mail and also probably for Beagle (which probably tried to load your entire MBox file into memory in order to index your mail). It doesn't have to do that with Maildir since each mail is a separate file. He (Gary) is using Thunderbird, which I believe does not support maildir local folders. Plus, there is no reason to load the entire mbox in memory. Can you believe that I converted maildirs to mbox just to increase performace of KMail. Before I had to wait for hours until my huge Mail directory is imported in new installation, seconds to open opensuse@opensuse.org folder and using Kmail wasn't joy. interesting... OK, I stand corrected. I found the opposite - using mbox it was much slower and less reliable, but that could be due to the fact that I was running dovecot IMAP locally so that I can access my email from different machines. The other advantage to maildirs as opposed to mbox (at least as I see it) is that if the mbox file becomes corrupt (for whatever reason), you can lose the lot, whereas with maildirs you lose only the affected email(s). That's the theory, but I have lots of large mboxes and I never lost one. Anyway, this is getting OT. I guess the lesson is YMMV depending on your installation and needs. Right :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHa8Q/tTMYHG2NR9URAgGiAKCB0VZdx4JsR0+Cqwnap5Id/yF1IgCdH6cJ vNRADCPF0LU3QLb7ohVdNCs= =SVG9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Real-Time Kernal Questions
On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 08:26:31AM +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 19:13 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote: The 10.3 -rt kernel is also changing its exported symbols in nearly every update. Are the symbols different than the ones by the non -RT kernel with the exact same number? Yes. The patchset is quite massive against the regular 10.3 kernel. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KMail/IMAP question
On Saturday 22 December 2007 00:33:38 Will Stephenson wrote: On Friday 21 December 2007, Markus Koßmann said: Am Freitag, 21. Dezember 2007 schrieb Rodney Baker: Whilst this isn't a showstopper (and I can get around it by disabling the size column in the folder list), I'm wondering if anyone else on the list is running a similar setup and may have noticed this behaviour (perhaps even with a different IMAP server)? I'am seeing the same problem with my email providers's IMAP server, which calls itself GMX IMAP4 StreamProxy . So it doesn't seem to be a dovecot problem. And no, compressing the (sub)folder after moving/deleting emails from that folder doesn't change anything, the size remains the same. KMail version is 1.96 enterprise 0070904.708012 KDE 3.5.8 release 22.3 openSUSE Ok. I'm on vacation from pretty much now, open a BR for this and I'll check it out in the new year. Will Will, Where is the appropriate place do to this? Via KDE.org? I'm guessing that this is a KDE issue rather than an OpenSuse issue... Regards, Rodney. PS Enjoy your holidays. -- === Rodney Baker VK5ZTV [EMAIL PROTECTED] === -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] suse updater questions
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 11:45:35PM -0500, Bob S wrote: Hello SuSE people, 1 Right after I boot up I see my modem flashing like crazy. Is that the updater calling home? 2 After awhile I get a pop-up that it has new updates for me. I click on the icon to see what they are and it shows 3 updates. I say OK and the next thing I know it is downloading many files. Much more than the three it said it was going to get. Some I can see like kdebase3 (which it didn't tell me about) and some go so fast I can't see what they are. What is going on? 3 Sometimes it tells me it wants to update programs I don't use like Samba and don't have installed. Why? The number of things it lists are patches. They contain multiple packages to update. As for (3) it might be a samba library used by KDE or so. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KMail/IMAP question
On Friday 21 December 2007 22:58:16 Rodney Baker wrote: On Friday 21 December 2007 22:22:37 Will Stephenson wrote: On Friday 21 December 2007, Sandy Drobic said: When you delete a mail in your imap account the mail is only marked with the delete flag. Only when you compress the folder (or whatever it is called in KMail) will the marked mails be expunged and removed from storage. It's a feature, not a bug. (^-^) Correct. If you have 'automatically compact folders' checked in Configure Kmail..-Accounts-Receiving-Modify... (your account) this happens periodically. If this is not enabled, you need to use the Compact Folder action in each imap folder's context menu. Season's greetings from the KDE team! Will -- Desktop Engineer KDE Team OK, I understand that, but when I look into the actual maildir folder (in this case, ~/Maildir/cur for read inbox items or ~/Maildir/new for unread), the only emails that exist are those that appear in the Inbox folder in KMail. Running Compress Folder has no effect - all deleted mails have been moved to the Trash folder and have then been deleted/expunged when the Trash folder has been emptied. 'Automatically compact folders' is checked in the settings dialog as instructed above (and has been from day 1). I have just deleted all items from my inbox, compacted the folder and checked that there are no files in ~/.Maildir/cur or ~/.Maildir/new and yet it still reports that the IMAP inbox size is 916.2kB. The same applies to other folders - it seems that KMail is incrementing the size each time a new mail is seen but never decrementing the size when a mail is deleted/expunged or moved to another folder. Unfortunately Evolution doesn't show folder sizes for comparison and Outlook only shows the local inbox size, not the IMAP inbox size. BTW, I checked to see if KMail was looking at a local cached copy of the imap folders and confirmed that it is not. Regards, Rodney. -- === Rodney Baker VK5ZTV [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Further to the above, I went to ~/Maildir and ls -lh showed ~/Maildir/cur using 868k. All other directory entries (ls -lah) showed 4k as I'd expect for a directory entry on an ext3 filesystem. cd cur and then ls -lah again showed . using 868k and .. using 4k. I went back to Maildir, did rm -rf cur and then mkdir cur. ls -lh then showed cur using 4k. Back to KMail (after restarting it) and inbox still shows 916.2kB... -- === Rodney Baker VK5ZTV [EMAIL PROTECTED] === -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KMail/IMAP question
On Friday 21 December 2007, Markus Koßmann said: Am Freitag, 21. Dezember 2007 schrieb Rodney Baker: Whilst this isn't a showstopper (and I can get around it by disabling the size column in the folder list), I'm wondering if anyone else on the list is running a similar setup and may have noticed this behaviour (perhaps even with a different IMAP server)? I'am seeing the same problem with my email providers's IMAP server, which calls itself GMX IMAP4 StreamProxy . So it doesn't seem to be a dovecot problem. And no, compressing the (sub)folder after moving/deleting emails from that folder doesn't change anything, the size remains the same. KMail version is 1.96 enterprise 0070904.708012 KDE 3.5.8 release 22.3 openSUSE Ok. I'm on vacation from pretty much now, open a BR for this and I'll check it out in the new year. Will -- Desktop Engineer KDE Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KMail/IMAP question
Am Freitag, 21. Dezember 2007 schrieb Rodney Baker: Whilst this isn't a showstopper (and I can get around it by disabling the size column in the folder list), I'm wondering if anyone else on the list is running a similar setup and may have noticed this behaviour (perhaps even with a different IMAP server)? I'am seeing the same problem with my email providers's IMAP server, which calls itself GMX IMAP4 StreamProxy . So it doesn't seem to be a dovecot problem. And no, compressing the (sub)folder after moving/deleting emails from that folder doesn't change anything, the size remains the same. KMail version is 1.96 enterprise 0070904.708012 KDE 3.5.8 release 22.3 openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Real-Time Kernal Questions
On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 08:23:47AM +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 09:34 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
Any reason your drivers are not already in the mainline kernel? If you
need help getting them there, the linuxdriverproject.org people are more
than willing to help you out.
One is a 'stupid' driver that replaces the serial port driver for a
specified serial port, implementing a photocell sensor that time tags
the port interrupt and does an asynchronous message (seen in the user's
app via select/poll/SIGIO). I would not imagine anyone would be
interested in it.
{sigh} We (the kernel.org community) are interested in _every_ driver
out there, even if it only has 1 user. Heck, we have whole
subarchitectures with only 3 users, and that is much more intrusive than
a driver. See my 2006 OLS talk for more details about this:
http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/ols_2006_keynote.html
One other driver, the bttv driver, already has our changes in the
mainline. We hired a bttv developer to make the changes, In that case,
it was a v4l2 feature that was defined in the API but was not present in
the bttv driver. It is now. Before the changes made it into the kernel,
we had to make a local compile and provide it. In 10.3 that is no longer
needed.
Good to hear.
The other drivers are from special cards we use. One driver is not ours.
We have the source because we use the cards. It is a multi-port realtime
jpeg2000 compression/decompression card. Which has primarily Linux
support. Perhaps the developer of that card is interested in this.
That sounds interesting to others, it should also go in :)
thanks,
greg k-h
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Re: [opensuse] problems on setting wireless USB (D-Link) DWL-G122-revC
On Monday 17 December 2007, Joe Sloan wrote: Matt T. wrote: This is a while ago and it just worked, thus I did not take any notes... but ok, I try: Assuming you run 10.3 with a recent kernel. I don't remember if it was already working with the kernel and rt2x00-kmp out of the box, mainly because when I installed it I had already updated the kernel several times. - Install the rt2x00 module for your kernel; probably a reboot is helpful after that - do not load ndiswrapper, unload it if needed, and make sure it does not get loaded when rebooting. This might not matter as long as you have no win drivers for the DWL-G122 installed, but better be sure, and you won't need them anyway. - plug in the DWL-G122 - knetworkmanager will open a window and ask for connection details Note: IIRC I did not setup the card directly with Yast. It is managed through knetworkmanager / networkmanager Sounds right, except for the reboot - doh! no windoze involved, so we just need a modprobe, not a reboot. Joe Well, Joe, actually, this probably helpful reboot was mentioned because there could have been some windoze involved - if ndiswrapper was used and a windoze driver was loaded ... better reboot to get all relicts of evil out of memory ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Error when logging out of gdm
Installed 10.3 and every time i want to logout and then log back in, when i click logout, i am left at the CL with this error: Timeout reached while waiting for return value. Could not receive return value from daemon process Anybody seen this before and how did you fix it? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Nvidia GeForce 6200 drivers
Yesterday, i installed 10.3 on a test drive. Today, i installed 10.3 on the regular drive and now i can't get nvidia drivers. No 3d... Yesterday, i did an update and rebooted, my display was set for the correct resolution and i then enabled desktop effects. Today, no resolution for monitor and can not get desktop effects enabled. How do i go about getting the geforce 6200 nvidia drivers? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)
On Thursday 20 December 2007 21:23, Linda Walsh wrote: Randall R Schulz wrote: In particular, you can get notification of an error (e.g., disk full) on the reply to a request much later than that of the request which actually encountered the error. Software with complex ordering and error sensitive behavior can be seriously undermined by asynchronous NFS. E.g. one of the most subtle problems I ever debugged was corruption in Berkeley DB files when the aforementioned disk-full condition occurred on a file system being accessed by the BDB code over asynchronous NFS. --- Ug! Running a 'db' over NFS? That's sounds ugly -- especially for performance. ... NFS is kind of ugly itself, don't you think? I suppose my assumption is that if someone had a critical business application that they needed to be networked, they'd more likely be using one of the Suse-Business editions ... Well, this was about 10 years ago and it was a Windows / Solaris shop. For all I know, the BDB folks have found a way to deal with this issue. We just turned off asynchronous operation in the NFS configuration, since fixing the guts of the BDB code wasn't our reason for existence. Linda Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Joining windoze domain with 10.3
Two questions that might help lead you. First - did you allow the computer to join the domain? Usually you have to do this on the PDC or the BDC. Second - you running a NT 4 domain or an AD domain? There might be different options on the NT side to join? I'm assuming you can connect using Konqueror to a share? smb://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share I used yastwindows domain management join the domain Running AD I can connect to shares, that is correct. That install was on a test hard drive. Now i have installed 10.3 on the hard drive that will be used and now gdm, does not even present the domain in the drop down box. It only says local. I can get tickets using kinit username. KRB5 and winbind are installed and running. ?? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 19:08 -0600, Bryen wrote: On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 02:03 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: I'm saying I'm running it on my primary box with only 640MB RAM, 1 GIG swap and I have no performance issues whatsoever. So, the fact that hardware was discussed before I made my comment, it was to emphasize that the hardware issue is probably moot.Somewhere there's a configuration issue. And it ain't a common issue on every machine, so the point is, instead of bashing Beagle as a problem for everyone, let's focus on why its a problem for SOME people and not others. Then we can get to the root of the problem. Its almost not certainly a hardware problem. As I mentioned earlier in the thread its almost certainly a problem with a particular piece of data or the thunderbird backend which got rewritten in 0.3.x (the MOC mailbox format is not really accessible through mozilla APIs). This is one reason the thunderbird backend is packaged separately, so a quick thing for Gary to try is to rpm -e beagle-thunderbird and see if that solves the problem. If not, its back to: http://beagle-project.org/Troubleshooting_CPU -JP -- JP Rosevear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Fwd: EXT3 partition access on Windows?
Thanks to all. However I wanted to have a JOURNALIZED FS on my removable device. Since I do not know how to use NTFS on openSUSE in R/W mode, I wanted to use ext3 partition. But I think that either of FAT32 or NTFS is the solution. Since FAT32 is not journalized, I want to know, how to use a NTFS drive in R/W mode on Linux. I have ntfs-3g installed on my openSUSE 10.3 Can someone tell me how to get NTFS drives working in R/W mode on my Linux? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Joining windoze domain with 10.3
On Friday 21 December 2007 07:41, Chris Arnold wrote: That install was on a test hard drive. Now i have installed 10.3 on the hard drive that will be used and now gdm, does not even present the domain in the drop down box. It only says local. I can get tickets using kinit username. KRB5 and winbind are installed and running. ?? Okay, but did you allow the machine from the Windows side? You have to grant domain membership to the machine on the PDC. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Lost speaker sound spontaneously in Suse 10.3, headphones are OK
Hello all, I have this HP laptop computer which was running Suse 10.1. It had been running great for a long time. All of a sudden sound would not come out off the speakers, the headphone output works OK. The Windows XP side of the laptop works fine. I tried the Ubuntu live cd and it also played sound through the speakers. I re-installed the OS with Suse 10.3 and the sound played off the speakers again. After a couple of days the sound has stopped to come out of the speakers again. Is there a reason why the speakers would stop working? I re-configured the sound card via Yast and alsaconfig several times, but still not speaker sound. There are no obvious error messages in the system log, here is what it looks like when the alsa drivers are loaded: Dec 21 11:14:50 ncdi003 kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1f.5[B] - Link [C0C3] - GSI 10 (level, low) - IRQ 10 Dec 21 11:14:50 ncdi003 kernel: PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1f.5 to 64 Dec 21 11:14:51 ncdi003 kernel: intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 54787 usecs Dec 21 11:14:51 ncdi003 kernel: intel8x0: clocking to 48000 When you play sound there are no error messages. Any suggestion will be appreciated. -- Rafael E. Herrera -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] apache2 vs symbolic link on opensuse10.2
Dear my friend, Valerio... You've solved my problem. Thank you...thank youvery much thousand times.. On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:20:52 +0100 Valerio Bontempi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Directory /srv/www/htdocs Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews AllowOverride All Order allow,deny allow from all /Directory -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Cron Job Problem
I want to run nightly backups, using rdiff-backup. I want the backups to go to one disk drive, Backup1, Monday thru Saturday and a different disk drive, Backup2, on Sunday. I used Kcron to enter the crontab data running as root. Here's what crontab looks like if I run crontab -l after logging in as su -: Earth-svr:~ # crontab -l # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall. # (/root/.kde4/tmp-Earth-svr/kcronh31359.tmp installed on Sun Dec 16 16:12:33 2007) # (Cron version V5.0 -- $Id: crontab.c,v 1.12 2004/01/23 18:56:42 vixie Exp $) # This file was written by KCron. Copyright (c) 1999, Gary Meyer # Although KCron supports most crontab formats, use care when editing. # Note: Lines beginning with #\ indicates a disabled task. # 5 0 * * 1,2,3,4,5,6 rdiff-backup --exclude-filelist /home/dhenson/exclude-list-Earth-svr / /media/Backup1 # 5 0 * * 7 rdiff-backup --exclude-filelist /home/dhenson/exclude-list-Earth-svr / /media/Backup2 Earth-svr:~ # I'm no expert on cron but the crontab looks okay to me. Does anyone see anything wrong with crontab? Do you see anything that might cause the scheduled cron jobs not to run? Any assistance appreciated. Don Henson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Joining windoze domain with 10.3
Sorry, but i sent that email straight to you and not the list :) Okay, but did you allow the machine from the Windows side? You have to grant domain membership to the machine on the PDC. Sorry but i don't know what you mean by allow the machine from the windows side. In SLED, all i had to do was use yast to join the domain and all was good. So i assume it is true in 10.3? If not, explain what you mean by allow the machine from the windows side. Thanks for your patience -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Heavy-Duty Virtualization Question
On Dec 20, 2007 3:53 PM, Eberhard Roloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VMware Server Episode 2.0: The Revenge of the Web UI http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403 More than enough. Thanks. -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Lost JPEG Preview / KDE Photo editor
On Thursday 20 December 2007 22:22, Don Raboud wrote: On Thursday 20 December 2007 23:14, Kai Ponte wrote: On Thursday 20 December 2007 11:57, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-20-07 11:56]: [...] Still no icons - I set Kview as the default action for all image types in configure desktop, but I get nothing still. open konq - Settings - Configure -Konqueror - Previews Meta-Data adjust Maximum file size: Thanks, Patrick. That didn't do it either. Max size is now 6MB. The kdegraphics3 package has the bits which generate preview images in konqueror (I think). What version of this do you have installed? Maybe verify that rpm? Okay, that's a good hint. I have kdegraphics3 3.5.5-30 kdegraphics3-extra 3.5.5.-30 kdegraphics3-imaging 3.5.5-30 kdegraphics3-pdf 3.5.5-43.5 kdegraphics3-postscript 3.5.5-30 The only ones I don't have are kdegraphics3-3D and kdegraphics3-fax Does that help? -- Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Upgrade to 10.3
David Bolt wrote: The reason for the slow development of SLED is because of its target environment. Agreed - It's not aimed towards the home user, but more to the corporate desktop. That's where it's supposed to just work, and are likely to be maintained by someone other than the user who don't want to do much in the way of making things work. The openSUSE releases are aimed more towards the home user, and they're more likely to want the latest and greatest version of a program. Actually the SLED target audience may well include home users, and any non-enthusiast types, e.g. those who want to turn on the computer and run applications, and have no interest in upgrading to the latest and greatest, or trying new kernel compilation options. For real hands-on types OS 10.3 will be a better choice, since it' s more amenable to hacking. My company issued laptop is triple boot: SLED 10 SP1, OS 10.3 and that other OS, so I have the best of both worlds, along with that silliness from Redmond, which I almost never use ;) Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Frozen Throne
Kaare Rasmussen wrote: Try this: http://www.blizzplanet.com/content/459/ There are links to instructions, I did not check this out fully. Google is your friend, I I did try something similar last time, to no avail. So I was hoping that someone here did have hands on experience. You might try checking out http://www.linux-gamers.net and asking there - Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] problems on setting wireless USB (D-Link) DWL-G122-revC
Matt T. wrote: On Monday 17 December 2007, Joe Sloan wrote: Sounds right, except for the reboot - doh! no windoze involved, so we just need a modprobe, not a reboot. Joe Well, Joe, actually, this probably helpful reboot was mentioned because there could have been some windoze involved - if ndiswrapper was used and a windoze driver was loaded ... better reboot to get all relicts of evil out of memory ;) Hehe, touche' Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] problems on setting wireless USB (D-Link) DWL-G122-revC
Sloan pecked at the keyboard and wrote: Matt T. wrote: On Monday 17 December 2007, Joe Sloan wrote: Sounds right, except for the reboot - doh! no windoze involved, so we just need a modprobe, not a reboot. Joe Well, Joe, actually, this probably helpful reboot was mentioned because there could have been some windoze involved - if ndiswrapper was used and a windoze driver was loaded ... better reboot to get all relicts of evil out of memory ;) Hehe, touche' Joe Would be simpler to just unload the kernel module - DUH. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Joining windoze domain with 10.3
On Friday 21 December 2007 05:41:31 am Chris Arnold wrote: Two questions that might help lead you. First - did you allow the computer to join the domain? Usually you have to do this on the PDC or the BDC. Second - you running a NT 4 domain or an AD domain? There might be different options on the NT side to join? If it works with SLED but not 10.3, why should one try to screw up the windoze side as well? I'm assuming you can connect using Konqueror to a share? The default suse way should be thru the my network places icon on the desktop, that's what a normal human being would assume, no? Well, that *fails* with connection refused error in my late installs, at least in 10.2 and 10.3. I think it worked in 10.0 smb://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share BUT, if i open a konqueror window and type smb://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, where the x's are the ip address of the windoze machine, then i get the login screen, where i have to use the login and pwd that i created only in my linucs machine thru the smbpasswd -a ... command as root Hey, maybe that's the diff between SLED and 10.3, a list of samba users!!! why this works, but following the clicks to the particular machine from the network icon does not is a frustration that we could live without, especially on small home networks where one or two doze machines connected to a linucs, with a laptop or two involved and the overall level of skill is not high. It took a lot of effort to find my method, first to find the direct conq command and then the numerical ip because i use dhcp in my home network and the address can change, so there is no easy way to put in a hosts file somewhere, at least not for my limited level. It would be much easier for me if my windoze access from my linucs were as uncomplicated as access from the three physical windoze machines in my small network or even the two virtual doze machines i often run thru vmware. it really is not a security issue because the doze machines can see what i open up in linucs, but linucs has to jump thru extra hoops to see the open windoze partitions, devices and directories. just a bit of sloppiness from a totally free os i think, but we can live with that if / when we find the workaround.. I used yastwindows domain management join the domain small home networks can run without domains or pdc's Running AD I can connect to shares, that is correct. and doze machines can always find the allowed shares from all machines. but for linucs to find the doze shares winbind is needed plus the creation of users thru smbpasswd -a, and for that one would probably need to add a dummy admin/ntadmin user as a linucs user,that's how smbpasswd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please correct me if i am wrong,but this is the only way i know to see windoze partitions these days, is there an easier way? That install was on a test hard drive. Now i have installed 10.3 on the hard drive that will be used and now gdm, does not even present the domain in the drop down box. It only says local. I can get tickets using kinit username. KRB5 and winbind are installed and running. ?? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)
On Friday 21 December 2007 11:10, primm wrote: NFS is kind of ugly itself, don't you think? Ugly? Naah! It's s neat. With nis and nfs anyone can login anywhere and get their own files and start work right after they've got a coffee. It just works. Just like NT server before someone downloded a virus. Well, I guess if someone else is configuring and maintaining it, sure, it's wonderful. Sherry anyone? Love Lynn x Loveless in Luser Land, RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)
NFS is kind of ugly itself, don't you think? Ugly? Naah! It's s neat. With nis and nfs anyone can login anywhere and get their own files and start work right after they've got a coffee. It just works. Just like NT server before someone downloded a virus. Sherry anyone? Love Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU
Joe Sloan wrote: Aaron Kulkis wrote: Joe Sloan wrote: I had to edit the paths even more extensively in hpux, solaris or aix - in fact anything in /opt or /usr/local usually wasn't even in root's path AND THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE!!! That's a security risk. Root is for ADMINISTRATIVE use, not running apps. I'm not sure what you're getting at - are you saying it's a security risk for root to run top on solaris or hpux? A shame really, one of my favorite apps. How about linux? It's in root's path on every linux distro I've seen. But that is getting completely away from the point, which was that suse provides for root a fully functional path, but removes e.g. /sbin and /usr/sbin from the path of non-root users, which needs fixing up. - but I expect to spend time fixing things up to make those OSes Hat to say it, but no, you were possibly introducing security holes into those systems. Very few apps in /opt or /usr/local are ever tested for safety under root's UID. Examples, please? What would be the security advantage of typing /opt/SunWzztop/bin/top every time, instead of top, with /opt/SunWzztop/bin in the path? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ which top /usr/bin/top [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ Why isn't top in /usr/bin where it belongs? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Nvidia GeForce 6200 drivers
Chris Arnold wrote: Yesterday, i installed 10.3 on a test drive. Today, i installed 10.3 on the regular drive and now i can't get nvidia drivers. No 3d... Yesterday, i did an update and rebooted, my display was set for the correct resolution and i then enabled desktop effects. Today, no resolution for monitor and can not get desktop effects enabled. How do i go about getting the geforce 6200 nvidia drivers? http://en.opensuse.org/Nvidia The green button worked for my 6200. For some reason I can't select 3d, but 3d is enabled and working. Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Real-Time Kernal Questions
Freitag, 21. Dezember 2007 Hans Witvliet: It's not that rt-applications suck and leave no reources for the rest, but the other way round. I meant suck like in fail to do what they're supposed to. Like in not rt-safe. Plus what you say is wrong at least on linux. If the realtime framework is setup right top priority (realtime) tasks get to deliver. The rest just has to wait. So you might see sluggish desktop response. This works on a range of hardware, not only on certified metal. Multiple rt-actions (often re-entrant) shouldn't cause any problems. However, if you drain the available resources by non-rt-hardware, or used closed-source virtualisation, there might come a point where you can no longer prove that your application will always respond within the given time. This might cause distorted audio/video, or even loose a customer-contract. The whole point of running an audio plumber like jack realtime is to *not* get distorted audio, even under very tight conditions like low latency. And it works. Like I said: no matter what else you run on your desktop. btw, it/s not without a reason that the developpers from asterisk seriously discourage the use of a X-environment on a pabx. So they're not making use of the available realtime mechanisms, I'd suspect. So they suck. Just kidding :) I'd suspect they use some balancing techniques on their systems to get stuff done more or less in time. If they were using the realtime framework they could be pretty sure. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU
Aaron Kulkis wrote: Joe Sloan wrote: Examples, please? What would be the security advantage of typing /opt/SunWzztop/bin/top every time, instead of top, with /opt/SunWzztop/bin in the path? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ which top /usr/bin/top [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ Why isn't top in /usr/bin where it belongs? Our solaris boxes always had top and similar utilities in /opt. Maybe it's different on solaris 10 (haven't checked), but historically, all the old school unix vendors shipped pretty bare bones systems from a usability point of view, and any useful extras tended to go either in /opt or /usr/local. We observe a few rules of thumb for the PATH of root - . is verboten, and world writable directories are out (actually any directory writable by someone other than root is suspect). Other than those restrictions, we prefer to use the path variable to make life less awkward and tedious. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [SOLVED]Joining windoze domain with 10.3
Kai Ponte wrote: On Friday 21 December 2007 07:41, Chris Arnold wrote: That install was on a test hard drive. Now i have installed 10.3 on the hard drive that will be used and now gdm, does not even present the domain in the drop down box. It only says local. I can get tickets using kinit username. KRB5 and winbind are installed and running. ?? Okay, but did you allow the machine from the Windows side? You have to grant domain membership to the machine on the PDC. I removed system from the domain and re-joined. Now it is working as expected. Thanks Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [SOLVED]Nvidia GeForce 6200 drivers
Jim Flanagan wrote: http://en.opensuse.org/Nvidia The green button worked for my 6200. For some reason I can't select 3d, but 3d is enabled and working. Thanks Jim, i was able to find the nvidia drivers and install them. Now, things are working. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Warhammer 40K on Suse
Frozen Throne That title takes me way back to a time when indoor plumbing was science fiction. Seriously, has anyone had success with Warhammer 40K on Suse? I would like to surprise my kid and her gaming friends (who are joined at the hip to Windoze) by logging into their game. Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU
Aaron Kulkis pecked at the keyboard and wrote: Joe Sloan wrote: root's UID. Examples, please? What would be the security advantage of typing /opt/SunWzztop/bin/top every time, instead of top, with /opt/SunWzztop/bin in the path? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ which top /usr/bin/top [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ Why isn't top in /usr/bin where it belongs? Looks like it is to me. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] GA-7N400S - nVidia HW Raid - How to Setup on RAID 0 on 10.3?
Listmates, To prepare for the next year, I am upgrading a server with a pair of 250G SATA drives to be run in RAID 0. The motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-7N400S that has an nVIDIA nForce4-4X SATA Raid controller onboard. The only manual supplied is for windows. After I create the RAID array in the BIOS what will I need to do to install a fresh copy of 10.3 on the system? Will I need to do anything special during the setup or with yast be able to see and use the RAID array? Has anyone else been successful with this setup? Please let me know you thoughts. Will the hardware raid even work with 10.3? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GA-7N400S - nVidia HW Raid - How to Setup on RAID 0 on 10.3?
David C. Rankin pecked at the keyboard and wrote: Listmates, To prepare for the next year, I am upgrading a server with a pair of 250G SATA drives to be run in RAID 0. The motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-7N400S that has an nVIDIA nForce4-4X SATA Raid controller onboard. The only manual supplied is for windows. After I create the RAID array in the BIOS what will I need to do to install a fresh copy of 10.3 on the system? Will I need to do anything special during the setup or with yast be able to see and use the RAID array? Has anyone else been successful with this setup? Please let me know you thoughts. Will the hardware raid even work with 10.3? Looks like you might be better off turning the onboard controller off and getting a 3Ware controller instead. and if you get one more drive you'll be able to do raid 5 and have more drive space available. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] how to turn off GUI on suse linux?
Is there something like /etc/init.d/gui stop? - Joel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how to turn off GUI on suse linux?
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, JJB wrote:- Is there something like /etc/init.d/gui stop? /sbin/init 3 ? Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: http://www.distributed.net/ OGR-P2 @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~15Mkeys | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit | openSUSE 10.3 32bit SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit | RISC OS 3.11 | RISC OS 3.6 | TOS 4.02| openSUSE 10.3 PPC -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how to turn off GUI on suse linux?
On 12/21/07, JJB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there something like /etc/init.d/gui stop? Edit /etc/inittab and change id:5:initdefault: to id:3:initdefault: then do a telinit 3. ne... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Certified: 75% bastard, 42% of which is tard. http://www.thespark.com/bastardtest Now accepting personal mail for GMail invites. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Cron Job Problem
On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 09:52 -0700, Donald D Henson wrote: I want to run nightly backups, using rdiff-backup. I think this is the second time you've posted this query. The first time it was suggested to use the full path for rdiff-backup, which is a good suggestion. But you haven't done that and you haven't explained why not, which might be helpful to anybody trying to help you. Another suggestion. Start YaST. Go to system, sysconfig editor, system, cron and set SEND_MAIL_ON_NO_ERROR to yes. Report back what gets output when the script runs. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how to turn off GUI on suse linux?
JJB wrote: Is there something like /etc/init.d/gui stop? init 3 Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how to turn off GUI on suse linux?
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, David Bolt wrote:- On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, JJB wrote:- Is there something like /etc/init.d/gui stop? /sbin/init 3 ? Forgot to add, if you're wanting to make the system boot up without the GUI login screen, change the default run level in /etc/inittab to 3 either by using YaST2 - System - System Services, or by editing it directly. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: http://www.distributed.net/ OGR-P2 @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~15Mkeys | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit | openSUSE 10.3 32bit SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit | RISC OS 3.11 | RISC OS 3.6 | TOS 4.02| openSUSE 10.3 PPC -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how to turn off GUI on suse linux?
JJB wrote: Is there something like /etc/init.d/gui stop? - Joel You can use init 3 to stop it and init 5 to restart. If you want to turn it off permanently, edit /etc/inittab and change the 5 in id:5:initdefault: to 3. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Warhammer 40K on Suse
Stevens wrote: Frozen Throne That title takes me way back to a time when indoor plumbing was science fiction. Seriously, has anyone had success with Warhammer 40K on Suse? I would like to surprise my kid and her gaming friends (who are joined at the hip to Windoze) by logging into their game. You might pop in at http://www.linux-gamers.net/ and ask there - Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Cron Job Problem
Dave Howorth wrote: On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 09:52 -0700, Donald D Henson wrote: I want to run nightly backups, using rdiff-backup. I think this is the second time you've posted this query. The first time it was suggested to use the full path for rdiff-backup, which is a good suggestion. But you haven't done that and you haven't explained why not, which might be helpful to anybody trying to help you. Another suggestion. Start YaST. Go to system, sysconfig editor, system, cron and set SEND_MAIL_ON_NO_ERROR to yes. Report back what gets output when the script runs. Cheers, Dave My apologies for posting the same problem twice. Even after being reminded, I don't remember posting it before. In any case, I'll try using FPN after I try your second suggestion. Don't want to change too many variables at once. The script should run tonight. I'll post what happens. Don Henson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Panel pop-ups
I asked this before and was told that it only is possible on 10.3. So, i ditched SLED and installed 10.3 and now i would like to have panel pop-ups. In other words, when you have something minimized on the panel/taskbar and you hover your mouse over it, a pop-up of that app shows. How do you do this in 10.3? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Panel pop-ups
Chris Arnold wrote: I asked this before and was told that it only is possible on 10.3. So, i ditched SLED and installed 10.3 and now i would like to have panel pop-ups. In other words, when you have something minimized on the panel/taskbar and you hover your mouse over it, a pop-up of that app shows. How do you do this in 10.3? Happens automatically - in kde anyway... Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Panel pop-ups
Joe Sloan wrote: Happens automatically - in kde anyway... Sorry, i am using gnome. I am not talking about the text pop-up; i am looking for the picture pop-up -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Totem and MPEG-2 playback
Using 10.3 and gnome. I want to use totem to play my mpeg2 files. It says i do not have a codec to playblack the mpeg2. I use to use mplayer (gonna try totem as it would not uninstall at 10.3 install time). So what codec do i need to have totem play the mpeg2 files? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Totem and MPEG-2 playback
On Saturday 22 December 2007 00:37:57 Chris Arnold wrote: Using 10.3 and gnome. I want to use totem to play my mpeg2 files. It says i do not have a codec to playblack the mpeg2. I use to use mplayer (gonna try totem as it would not uninstall at 10.3 install time). So what codec do i need to have totem play the mpeg2 files? I think totem uses gstreamer, so you probably need the fluendo codec for mpeg. You can find it at packman Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Panel pop-ups
Today at 5:34 PM, Chris Arnold wrote: Joe Sloan wrote: Happens automatically - in kde anyway... Sorry, i am using gnome. I am not talking about the text pop-up; i am looking for the picture pop-up It is possible to do this with Compiz Fusion: http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz_fusion And KDE doesn't show the Window Preview... at least not KDE3 Hope that helps :) -- Kevin Yo Dupuy | Public Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Merry Christmas from Yo.media! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Totem and MPEG-2 playback
lør, 22.12.2007 kl. 01.01 +0100, skrev Anders Johansson: On Saturday 22 December 2007 00:37:57 Chris Arnold wrote: Using 10.3 and gnome. I want to use totem to play my mpeg2 files. It says i do not have a codec to playblack the mpeg2. I use to use mplayer (gonna try totem as it would not uninstall at 10.3 install time). So what codec do i need to have totem play the mpeg2 files? I think totem uses gstreamer, so you probably need the fluendo codec for mpeg. You can find it at packman Anders For multimedia and other restricted format (MP3,Encrypted DVD, DiVX,etc) issues, see http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Panel pop-ups
Kevin Dupuy wrote: It is possible to do this with Compiz Fusion: http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz_fusion When folowing this page, i get confused. I have compiz installed and using desktop effects. The way i am reading this is compiz-fusion is different that just compiz? So, i first have to install compiz-fusion? If this is right, can i just install compiz-fusion with the one-click install and not uninstall compiz? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Panel pop-ups
On Friday 21 December 2007 15:34, Chris Arnold wrote: Joe Sloan wrote: Happens automatically - in kde anyway... Sorry, i am using gnome. I am not talking about the text pop-up; i am looking for the picture pop-up I think you have to use Beagle. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Cron Job Problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Donald D Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-21-07 18:22]: Dave Howorth wrote: Another suggestion. Start YaST. Go to system, sysconfig editor, system, cron and set SEND_MAIL_ON_NO_ERROR to yes. Report back what gets output when the script runs. My apologies for posting the same problem twice. Even after being reminded, I don't remember posting it before. In any case, I'll try using FPN after I try your second suggestion. Don't want to change too many variables at once. The script should run tonight. I'll post what happens. they do not affect each other. The variable only tells cron to report the status of your entry, the other explains to cron where to find the application. Changing both at the same time does not have the effect you allude. You *should* change both. - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHbGJVClSjbQz1U5oRAmRKAJ0YxGQcvMW6K4kQG+BiwI8npLbJNACeOfFq UoGSGRZBSHvIRnqxdZdNHwI= =Q6My -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Panel pop-ups
On Saturday 22 December 2007 11:39:22 Chris Arnold wrote: Kevin Dupuy wrote: It is possible to do this with Compiz Fusion: http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz_fusion When folowing this page, i get confused. I have compiz installed and using desktop effects. The way i am reading this is compiz-fusion is different that just compiz? So, i first have to install compiz-fusion? If this is right, can i just install compiz-fusion with the one-click install and not uninstall compiz? Chris, You can install compiz-fusion using one-click without first uninstalling compiz. Yast will take care of dependicies, obsoletes etc. I have done this successfully on 2 systems. I have both KDE and Gnome desktops installed (although I generally use KDE) so I used the one-click install for compiz-fusion-all. Works great. Regards, Rodney. -- === Rodney Baker VK5ZTV [EMAIL PROTECTED] === -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KMail/IMAP question
On Saturday 22 December 2007 00:33:38 Will Stephenson wrote: On Friday 21 December 2007, Markus Koßmann said: Am Freitag, 21. Dezember 2007 schrieb Rodney Baker: Whilst this isn't a showstopper (and I can get around it by disabling the size column in the folder list), I'm wondering if anyone else on the list is running a similar setup and may have noticed this behaviour (perhaps even with a different IMAP server)? I'am seeing the same problem with my email providers's IMAP server, which calls itself GMX IMAP4 StreamProxy . So it doesn't seem to be a dovecot problem. And no, compressing the (sub)folder after moving/deleting emails from that folder doesn't change anything, the size remains the same. KMail version is 1.96 enterprise 0070904.708012 KDE 3.5.8 release 22.3 openSUSE Ok. I'm on vacation from pretty much now, open a BR for this and I'll check it out in the new year. Will -- Desktop Engineer KDE Team Bug #154454 raised on kde.org. -- === Rodney Baker VK5ZTV [EMAIL PROTECTED] === -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Heavy-Duty Virtualization Question
virtualbox is better than vmware, i ve tried it more light n fast. u should read alexey eremenko for the installation tutorial search on google lessons4lizards-fop.pdf viva virtualbox On Dec 19, 2007 5:25 PM, Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ! I have a tough choice. Client have an Intel-based Quad-Core PC with SuSE 10.3, and time to time (~1 - 1.5 hours day) needs Win XP with Adobe Photoshop, InDesign, Dreamveawer and some weird video editing programs. He does not want to reboot he;s workstation in clean WinXP-only mode. The obvious cantenders for virtualization are: VMware, VirtualBox and Xen (KVM/QEMU does not suitable because it lacks guest OS video acceleration). The question is - which of these virtualization solutions will offer best performance, especially in terms of graphic/video screen redraw, sound latency, and 3D graphic ? Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s). As to VMware: The free version, VMware Server, is NOT optimized for desktop use. It works, but not the way you're describing. You would need to consider VMware Workstation and I don't have any experience with that. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Opensuse 10.3 installer not able to find (DVD) medium on HP dx2255
On Thursday 20 December 2007 23:49:42 peter nikolic wrote: On Thursday 20 December 2007, Hans Egghart wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install OpenSUSE 1.3 on a HP dx2255 desktop: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12724_div/12724_div.HTML It has a TSSTcorp (Samsung) DVD-writer. After booting the install kernel, it does not find the dvd drive (Could not find the openSUSE Repository). Are there special driver parameters I need to pass to the libata, pata_via or sata_via kernel modules (or general kernel parameters I need to set) for the install kernel to recognize the dvd/cd drive? Any help is appreciated. Have the same problem with my desktop. No CD/DVD drive. Have to live without their use until the problem is solved. Has something to do with libata, whatever that is. Somebody informed me that Tejun Heo of Novell is trying to get a big collection of ATAPI related fixes into the vanilla kernel, and I assume they will eventually come out for 10.3's kernel. Just be on the lookout for patches for the kernel from Tejun. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Modem working on openSuSE 10.2
I have an external USB modem and trying to get this working on linux. I have set up through yast the modem parameters related to Internet provider, but I am not able to communicate with the modem. Has anyone experienced a similar problem? -- Bogdan Cristea -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-packaging] Publishing to non-oss repository?
Hello, After the build service, what's the procedure to submit and publish the packages on openSUSE official non-oss repository? Anyone specific to contact? Regards, Jasem - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-packaging] Publishing to non-oss repository?
On 2007-12-22 04:06:32 +0300, Jasem Mutlaq wrote: After the build service, what's the procedure to submit and publish the packages on openSUSE official non-oss repository? Anyone specific to contact? propose it to the factory mailinglist. but what package is it? darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-packaging] Publishing to non-oss repository?
On Saturday 22 December 2007 05:08:04 am Marcus Rueckert wrote: On 2007-12-22 04:06:32 +0300, Jasem Mutlaq wrote: After the build service, what's the procedure to submit and publish the packages on openSUSE official non-oss repository? Anyone specific to contact? propose it to the factory mailinglist. but what package is it? darix It's for a line of astronomy CCD cameras and filter wheels manufactured by SBIG, it includes a binary library and firmware for the camera. I used the build service and the package is ready, just need to know the procedure, so I'll go ahead and email factory. Jasem - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-packaging] Publishing to non-oss repository?
On 2007-12-22 05:17:43 +0300, Jasem Mutlaq wrote: On Saturday 22 December 2007 05:08:04 am Marcus Rueckert wrote: On 2007-12-22 04:06:32 +0300, Jasem Mutlaq wrote: After the build service, what's the procedure to submit and publish the packages on openSUSE official non-oss repository? Anyone specific to contact? propose it to the factory mailinglist. but what package is it? darix It's for a line of astronomy CCD cameras and filter wheels manufactured by SBIG, it includes a binary library and firmware for the camera. I used the build service and the package is ready, just need to know the procedure, so I'll go ahead and email factory. and redistribution is allowed? and i wonder if the buildservice rules allow such package. but thats not up to me to decide. darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-wiki] Change at cn.opensuse.org
Hi, Now http://cn.opensuse.org/ is the Simplified Chinese version of http://en.opensuse.org/, a lot of volunteers and fans of OpenSUSE translated many of pages. But there are a lot of problem: a) Quality One word could be translate several different Chinese character by different people. And when someone translated one page, no others revise it. b) Updating When the pages in English updated, we couldn't follow it. And it's also hard to find what page in Chinese is correspond with the page in English. And I've translated some pages in Ubuntu, I found it's very good. There are a standard procedure for translating, that include how to participate to translate, translating standard, and award for translating, such as if you translate one page they would open a blog for you. So I have an idea for translating OpenSUSE * Add a translate plan in Welcome page, deleting the indexed plan. * Add a translate rocedure page, Require- Translate - Revision. * Add a WaitforTranslating category, port article from English pages in en.opensuse.org. * Add a WaitforRevising category, so than some and easier to find what pages need to be revised. * Add Translating Standard page. * Add wiki basic syntax page, it's for beginners. * Add an translating team page. And I've changed some of these, you can view from http://cn.opensuse.org/ -- Sincerely Yours, Charles Li - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] Change at cn.opensuse.org
Op vrijdag 21 december 2007, schreef jdd: Charles Li wrote: When the pages in English updated, we couldn't follow it. this is the main problem IMHO This does not need to be a problem. For all translated pages (to Dutch) I marked these pages to be watched; the non-translated are unwatched. This means that when you go to My watchlist after login on en.o.o, you can see all recently changed pages which are translated. All pages that you did not visit after a change are marked. You can click here on (chan) to see the most recent change made or (hist) and then select which versions you want to compare to see the changes since you last updated your translated page. -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] Change at cn.opensuse.org
On Dec 21, 2007 8:12 PM, jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Li wrote: When the pages in English updated, we couldn't follow it. this is the main problem IMHO And it's also hard to find what page in Chinese is correspond with the page in English. this should not. The best way it to amways use the same name for the local page than the en one, then make a redirect to the real local name page. As so, it's enough to change the local two letters local name in the url to find the translated page (if exists) Yep, redirect is a good idea, but not everyone when doing translate know about it, so I write a Translation Guide in Chinese for beginners. urge the translators to reference the translated page in the english one (many of your ideas are good) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- Sincerely Yours, Charles Li - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] Change at cn.opensuse.org
On Dec 21, 2007 9:43 PM, Freek de Kruijf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op vrijdag 21 december 2007, schreef jdd: Charles Li wrote: When the pages in English updated, we couldn't follow it. this is the main problem IMHO This does not need to be a problem. For all translated pages (to Dutch) I marked these pages to be watched; the non-translated are unwatched. This means that when you go to My watchlist after login on en.o.o, you can see all recently changed pages which are translated. All pages that you did not visit after a change are marked. You can click here on (chan) to see the most recent change made or (hist) and then select which versions you want to compare to see the changes since you last updated your translated page. Great! -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sincerely Yours, Charles Li - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
