Vs: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-S and FA31Ltd
Another useless feature, then. Makes me think that the MZ-5n is a very good camera (and it is). All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperinen viesti- Lhettj: Pl Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raimo wrote: Absolutely useless feature - if you need to write down the film number, you could more easily write down the frame number and wind on to this number. snip Another thing that makes this far from useless is that without this feature, the MZ-S would double expose exposure data on reloaded film and also count reloaded rolls at least twice (depending on how many times you load it). Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Subject: Australian Release date for MZ-S
Tanya quoted Paul: "I thought the Aussies amongst us may be interested to know that the C R = Kennedy web site has a description of the MZ-S, nothing we don't already = know, with the release date anticipated as July." Did they say which year? I wonder if NZ will ever see it. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RTF flash (was:ME viewfinder (was Re: Zenitar 16/2.8 Fisheye) )
Jim Brooks writes: Isn't it odd then that the MZS has one? I've found the RTF in the Z-1p useful when I left the big Sunpak at home. I guess it would be very useful for contrast control, catchlights or whatever. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Macro flash bracket
Pål, did you look at the Novoflex Makroblitzset at http://www.novoflex.de/html/produkte.htm It connects around the front lens, and this way it eleminates exposure calculations for the flash. So simple non TTL/AUTO flash units can be used. George - Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:59 PM Subject: Macro flash bracket Anyone with tips on a lightweight flash bracket for use on my FA* 200/4 macro? Pål - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Question on RARE Lens
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, William Kane wrote: It's marked "ULTRA-MICRO-TAKUMAR 1:1.3 30mm". "ASAHI OPT. CO. JAPAN" Anyone have any idea what this lens is for? It's got aperture setting from 1.3 to 22, and has a screw mount on the rear of the lens that is smaller than 42mm . . . maybe 37 or 39 . . . . can't find my metric ruler right now. ANY ideas would be appreciated. I can't see it at a quick glance in Gerjan's book, so I have no idea. Did Pentax make enlarger lenses? In any case, it sounds like an ultra-rare lens, and I'd keep it if I were you. What better excuse to pick up an Asahiflex body? :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-S and FA31Ltd
...but remember that the standard back have controls for AF. I agree though that 12-15 sems a bit too much for this use only. BTW doesn't the bottom of the camera have 16 contacts? Hmm... Not remember it :-( And what for 12 contacts needed? Just for AF activation button? --- Doesn't it seem a bit much just for the battery grip? Now these contacts are for comunication between the battery pack and the body; not for power supply. --- IMHO battery grip touch the body only from bottom! All these contacts not for it... Den - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Hello This is a Email I received from CdI and I wish to show to all of you ! See you [EMAIL PROTECTED] Concernant les pentaxistes amricains ! -Amricains, franais ou javanais, les penxistes comme les contaxistes, leicaistes et qqs autres commencent me courir sur le haricot, svre ! En effet, quel journal autre que CI, quels journalistes autres que ma pomme, Denis ou GMC ont dfendu avec acharnement le droit de vivre et de prosprer des marques "secondaires" ? Qui a publi des tests logieux sur les objectifs Leica ? Sur les botiers Pentax ? Sur les systmes et les meilleurs objectifs de chaque marque ? J'en ai vraiment TRES gros sur la patate de savoir que des gens que je ne connas pas dans un coin que j' ignore parlent de moi en mettant en cause mon honntet alors que j'ai tjs dfendu l'intrt de Pentax bec et ongles, quand la marque tait dfendable (et videmment critiqu ce qui tait critiquable, c'est mon boulot !). Alors, si le fait d'appartenir une communaut minoritaire vous rend tous intolrants au point qu'il nous serait interdit d'avoir une opinion ngative lorsqu'elle est fonde et argumente sur votre marque chrie; si le fait d' oser une critique en la justifiant par des arguments rationnels et vrifiables nous fait passer pour des tratres la cause, je te le dis tout net, je prfre que vous lisiez d'autres canards o, au moins, vous serez peinards. tout le monde il est beau et gentil ds lors qu'il passe de la pub ! CI n'est pas le bulletin de liaison de la secte des adorateur de Pentax ni un parti politique aveugle et sourd ddi la dfense corporatiste des intrts d'une minorit, qu'on se le dise ! Je t'autorise faire cho mes remarques, car je tiendrai exactement les mmes propos en public ! Mais je n'autorise personne travestir ma pense en la dformant. Amitis -- Ronan Loac [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Petite Motte - 86100 SENILLE Tl : +33 (0)5 4985 4985 Fax : +33 (0)5 4985 4999 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
LOL!! I have no idea what caused this outraged reply of his (I can imagine though) but i *love* his style :- Daphne - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
On 10 Apr 2001, at 10:32, Pentax Clover wrote: Hello This is a Email I received from CdI and I wish to show to all of you ! See you Where this augment falls down badly is that many of the people putting comments forward in the PDML forum are also familiar with the other systems to which the Pentax are compared and cannot reconcile the problems indicated by the CDI tests? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
! What's about English version? :-))) Den - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Fairy Pics...
Hi all, well, I have had an incredibly busy past couple of days, I have been shooting my butt off (no crass remarks, thanks! ;-) ) So I wanted to show you all what I have been up to. The following link will take you to my "newest stuff" folder on Photo.net. The stuff shot this past weekend begins with and includes the landscape shots. http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=108928 So, these are my first instalment in the "Fairygirl's Fairy Pics" archive Anybody else got some fairy pics? One more thing, a while back, somebody was asking about various softener type filters and I suggested the use of pantihose over the lens. Well, to show the effect, here are two examples. The first is with the stocking (I used white and just tied it straight over my lens), the second is without. Basically, it just reduces the contrast, and almost "dulls" the shot to an extent, but I like the effect, particularly when used in a context such as "fairy" type pics. Oh yeah, here are the links: With stocking - http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=199151size=lg Without - http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=199152size=lg Both shots taken same camera (PZ-20), same lens (SMC -FA 35-80mm zoom that came with my PZ-20), same film (TCN 400) same exposure (f4, 1/90 sec), within about 30 seconds of each other. BTW, I made the costume (wings, headpiece, tutu, wand) earlier on that morningaren't I clever! hehe. Gonna make some adult wings tonight, I'll post the results... Anyways, lemme know what you all think... Oh, yeah, what do you all think of the sunset/landscape shots? They were my first ever attempt at landscapes, I asked the lab to do as little colour adjustment as possible and this was the result. I love the colours (composition leaves a lot to be desired, I know...), but I think they are ok for a first attempt Shot with Reala 100 by the way. Thanks in advance, and please enjoy... fairy. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-S and FA31Ltd)
Martin Carro wrote: Hi Peter, Let's see. You can assign Memory #1 to Supra 100, so you write #1 in your Supra 100 roll. Ok so before unloading your Supra 100 you note the frame counter and write that on the film canister instead. Then you have another roll, for example Tri-X, and that goes to Memory #2, so you write #2 in your Tri-x roll. Ditto When you switch rolls, all you have to do is tell the camera the number of the memory wrote in the roll. substitute "frame" for "memory" The camera can have some way to reset the memories if you like to do so. not needed if you remember the frame instead of the film number. I think that the problem with the other option (to remember how many frames I shot) is that if you have 5 different rolls, you finish remembering the numbers and not thinking in taking photos. The frame number is on the camera display whilst the film is still loaded. You only have to remember the number between deciding to rewind and taking the film out and it's pretty difficult to be taking photos at that stage. You could even write it in your notebook before pressing the rewind button if you don't trust your memory that long. And tell me, if you change the rolls 4 times, where will you write the numbers??? I might cross out the previous frame number and write a new one? I don't even have to cross out the old one, even I can work out that the larger number might be it. I might even use my notebook? If I were a meticulous notebook user (which I am not) I would have already written it down with exposure details. And if I were putting the same roll back in 4 times which means I've put another roll in three times in-between - I think I would have a second body anyway. Now if the camera were to remember additional information, say focal length used, EV values and exposure information, for each frame and allow me to extract it in someway (needn't be a download I can read a display and write) then allocating a serial number to the film would be useful. If it's only to remember the last frame used and I have to remember something else instead - I can't see the benefit. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
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Re: Fairy Pics...
Hi Fairy, Some beautiful pictures here. I particularly love the BW of the grouped flowers, the flower toppling over in the vase, and the baby on the cloud. (I guess I'm a softy.) Many other good shots as well. Nice work. Paul Tanya Russell Mayer wrote: Hi all, well, I have had an incredibly busy past couple of days, I have been shooting my butt off (no crass remarks, thanks! ;-) ) So I wanted to show you all what I have been up to. The following link will take you to my "newest stuff" folder on Photo.net. The stuff shot this past weekend begins with and includes the landscape shots. http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=108928 So, these are my first instalment in the "Fairygirl's Fairy Pics" archive Anybody else got some fairy pics? One more thing, a while back, somebody was asking about various softener type filters and I suggested the use of pantihose over the lens. Well, to show the effect, here are two examples. The first is with the stocking (I used white and just tied it straight over my lens), the second is without. Basically, it just reduces the contrast, and almost "dulls" the shot to an extent, but I like the effect, particularly when used in a context such as "fairy" type pics. Oh yeah, here are the links: With stocking - http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=199151size=lg Without - http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=199152size=lg Both shots taken same camera (PZ-20), same lens (SMC -FA 35-80mm zoom that came with my PZ-20), same film (TCN 400) same exposure (f4, 1/90 sec), within about 30 seconds of each other. BTW, I made the costume (wings, headpiece, tutu, wand) earlier on that morningaren't I clever! hehe. Gonna make some adult wings tonight, I'll post the results... Anyways, lemme know what you all think... Oh, yeah, what do you all think of the sunset/landscape shots? They were my first ever attempt at landscapes, I asked the lab to do as little colour adjustment as possible and this was the result. I love the colours (composition leaves a lot to be desired, I know...), but I think they are ok for a first attempt Shot with Reala 100 by the way. Thanks in advance, and please enjoy... fairy. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SPF/SP and using date expired BW and Colour films.
James, All colour emulsions lose sensitivity due to natural radioactivity and internal diffusion between layers. I hear the rate is somewhere around half of stop each year, maybe more for faster films. It also depends largely on the film. Servus, Alin James wrote: JA A professional photographer friend of mine, recently gave me some surplus JA date expired BW and Colour films he had stored in his freezer. As he is JA away at Whisler as a ski instructor most of the ski season, he would not be JA able to use the film. He also said, I may need to adjust film speed down JA [e.g. 3200asa to 800asa]. Can anyone explain why (can't get hold of him to JA ask more)? JA The film types are: JA 1. Tmax TMZ 135 p3200 JA 2. Kodak Pro1000 PMZ-36 (C-41) JA 3. Kodak Tmax-400 TMY-36 JA 4. Kodak Pro Supra 400 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
My, Oh My ... someone's got his knickers in a knot. Seems like your friend can't handle criticism very well (based on my poor French translation) and, rather than argue technical points and specifics, is just spewing forth what seems like anger and frustration. Too bad - a good discussion could have ensued. BTW, it would be helpful if you can translate these comments from French to English. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. Pentax Clover wrote: Hello This is a Email I received from CdI and I wish to show to all of you ! See you [EMAIL PROTECTED] Concernant les pentaxistes amricains ! -Amricains, franais ou javanais, les penxistes comme les contaxistes, leicaistes et qqs autres commencent me courir sur le haricot, svre ! En effet, quel journal autre que CI, quels journalistes autres que ma pomme, Denis ou GMC ont dfendu avec acharnement le droit de vivre et de prosprer des marques "secondaires" ? Qui a publi des tests logieux sur les objectifs Leica ? Sur les botiers Pentax ? Sur les systmes et les meilleurs objectifs de chaque marque ? J'en ai vraiment TRES gros sur la patate de savoir que des gens que je ne connas pas dans un coin que j' ignore parlent de moi en mettant en cause mon honntet alors que j'ai tjs dfendu l'intrt de Pentax bec et ongles, quand la marque tait dfendable (et videmment critiqu ce qui tait critiquable, c'est mon boulot !). Alors, si le fait d'appartenir une communaut minoritaire vous rend tous intolrants au point qu'il nous serait interdit d'avoir une opinion ngative lorsqu'elle est fonde et argumente sur votre marque chrie; si le fait d' oser une critique en la justifiant par des arguments rationnels et vrifiables nous fait passer pour des tratres la cause, je te le dis tout net, je prfre que vous lisiez d'autres canards o, au moins, vous serez peinards. tout le monde il est beau et gentil ds lors qu'il passe de la pub ! CI n'est pas le bulletin de liaison de la secte des adorateur de Pentax ni un parti politique aveugle et sourd ddi la dfense corporatiste des intrts d'une minorit, qu'on se le dise ! Je t'autorise faire cho mes remarques, car je tiendrai exactement les mmes propos en public ! Mais je n'autorise personne travestir ma pense en la dformant. Amitis -- Ronan Loac [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Petite Motte - 86100 SENILLE Tl : +33 (0)5 4985 4985 Fax : +33 (0)5 4985 4999 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG comments (Alin Flaider, Matt McCarter, Serge Kozak)
Thanks Yves, your critique is largely deserved. Indeed I could have used a smaller leaf to enhance composition. I do have a more open view - unfortunately the frog eggs area was not big enough to cover the entire background, besides that nature of the eggs would be then hard to distinguish. Finally the scan is not fuzzy, the eggs by themselves are not sharp subjects. The bottom part of the leaf is blurred indeed as it pops outside of the depth of field - a lesson for me to always close one stop over what I see in the viewfinder... Servus,Alin YC - " New Generation " by Alin Flaider YC Fallen leaves are one of my favorite and recurrent photographic YC theme, so this picture directly grabbed my attention. In YC particular, it has a very unusual background: are these frog eggs? YC I am really uncertain of what they are! (At first, I thought they YC were melting ice droplets, which I had inferred from your YC mentioning of snow. I didn't realize that I was probably wrong YC before I tried to understand the title.) To be honest, however, I YC am not too sure of what to think of the shot: although I YC definitely like a lot the various constrats conveyed by the YC picture (both visual and semantic), somehow the composition YC doesn't work for me. YC I find that the pattern of the eggs is a very interesting YC background (I'll have to try that!), with a nice contrast between YC the lighter and darker portions of the wet eggs. I also like the YC strong constrast between the monochrome background and the warm YC colors of the leave. I feel that all this can make it a strong YC photograph. However, the position of the leaf in the shot does not YC please me that much. I find the bright color of the leaf so YC overwhelming that my eyes always go back to that bottom right YC corner of the frame. I must say however that I haven't imagined a YC better position for it. I also have been wondering about removing YC the small twig on the left of the leaf, as it distracts from the YC main subject of the picture. On the other hand, it gives an other YC point for the eye on which to focus, which counterbalances the YC power of the leaf presence. Another comment I'd have is that the YC image seems very slightly blurred, maybe from scanning. I wonder YC if it could benefit from using the "unsharp mask" filter. YC After all this thinking, if I imagine I had to take the shot, I YC suppose I would try a more open view, in which the leaf appears YC smaller, in order to give more importance to the egg pattern and YC reduce the leaf visual power. Maybe this could equilibrate their YC relative impact? (It would also likely emphasizes the life rebirth YC theme.) I'd probably also try a much tighter cropping on the leaf. YC -- YC Dr. Yves Caudano YC Laboratoire LASMOS YC Dpartement de Physique YC Facults Universitaires Notre-Dame de la Paix YC 61 Rue de Bruxelles YC B-5000 Namur YC Belgium YC [EMAIL PROTECTED] YC tel : + 32 (0)81 72 5487 YC fax : 4707 YC URL : http://www.fundp.ac.be/sciences/physique/lasmos/ YC http://www.scf.fundp.ac.be/~ycaudano/ YC - YC This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, YC go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to YC visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Denis wrote: ! What's about English version? :-))) Heres a translation. As you can see this is a bunch of self centered, pretentios thick heads. They avoid completely the isuue. No wonder! Concerning the American pentaxists! - Americans, French or javanais, the penxists like the contaxists, leicaists and qqs others start to run me on bean, severe! Indeed, which different newspaper than Ci, which different journalists than my apple, Denis or GMC defended with eagerness the right to live and thrive of the " secondary " marks? Who published eulogistic tests on the Leica objectives? On the Pentax cases? On the systems and the best objectives of each mark? I have some really VERY large on potato of knowing that people that I connas not in a corner that I am unaware of speaks about me by blaming my honesty whereas I have tjs defended the interest of Pentax nozzle and nails, when the mark was justifiable (and obviously criticized what was criticizable, it is my job!). Then, if the fact of belonging at a minority community returns all to you intolerant so much so that it would be to us interdict to have a negative opinion when it is based and argued on your mark cherished; if the fact of daring a criticism by justifying it by rational and verifiable arguments makes us pass for traitors to the cause, I say it to you any Net, I prefer that you read other ducks where, at least, you will be peinards. everyone it is beautiful and nice since it passes from the advertizing! Ci is not the bulletin of connection of the sect of the admirer of Pentax nor a political party blind man and deaf person dedicated to defense corporatist of the interests of a minority, that it is said! I authorize to you to echo my remarks, because I will make exactly the same remarks as a public! But I do not authorize anybody to disguise my thought by deforming it. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Favorite Lens Roll Call Results UPDATE 8
Kevin, I can't speak on the FA20/2.8 or A20/2.8, but I do love the FA*24/2. It can be pure magic in terms of picture quality. I remember sharpness and an unanticipated dimensionality in the photos. It made me stop using my M28/2.8 as I couldn't stand it any longer. The M20/4 is a nice compact lens, but wide for my tastes and not in the same league as the FA*24/2 for quality. The older K20/4 is a bigger, but similar. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK. Why is the FA* 24/2 getting votes and the FA 20/2.8 getting none. I had pretty much decided on the FA 20/2.8. You know, like the car commercial, Wider is Better. It seems that some combination of * glass and a slightly faster lens is the preference. Is 20 mm too wide for most applications? I keep admiring the pictures a friend is taking with a 14 mm Sigma. Help me out. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Question on RARE Lens
I remember seeing in a Pentax lens brochure from the '70s an adapter which allowed the use of 'special' macro lenses such as Zuiko Mplan(?) 21 mm for extreme magnification on a bellows. Perhaps your lens is similar to that one. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-Sand FA31Ltd)
on 4/9/01 1:05 AM, James Apilado at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You speak "treason" by saying you would let go 35mm vs. APS and MF. But let me join you in that. Hi Jim, Treason? Well, yes, but I am still practicing the monogamy by not getting into a heresy of buying one of these plasticky Canon bodies to go with my EF lenses :-) (But the Elan 7e looks interesting :-) BTW, below quoted post is all the more reasons that you and I wish a 35mm APS. APS cassette itself is an independent system in system which add more film related functions within a camera system. The present 35mm film magazine only serves as a light tight container and the film back is totally wasted while the APS film has magnetic strip on it which allows all kinds of functions. I realize the issue of having to modify the infrastructure, and huge installed base of regular camera (I have no hesitation to invest in an APS version of the Pentax 35mm cameras), but the film compartment of the present camera is totally wasted now. Besides, with no back plate to open for film loading (except a small loading door), using the APS style cassette will make the camera sealing much tighter. Oh, well :-) on 4/9/01 9:43 PM, Martin Corro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Peter, Let's see. You can assign Memory #1 to Supra 100, so you write #1 in your Supra 100 roll. Then you have another roll, for example Tri-X, and that goes to Memory #2, so you write #2 in your Tri-x roll. When you switch rolls, all you have to do is tell the camera the number of the memory wrote in the roll. The camera can have some way to reset the memories if you like to do so. I think that the problem with the other option (to remember how many frames I shot) is that if you have 5 different rolls, you finish remembering the numbers and not thinking in taking photos. And tell me, if you change the rolls 4 times, where will you write the numbers??? Cheers, Ken - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Well, this idiot seems to acuse Pentax users for getting pissed off wherever CDI publish a test that don't give pentax rave rewiev. Nothing could be further from the truth. We get pissed off when lens test don't asess lens quality, good or bad. This CDI thing started when some of us criticised CDI for giving too good review for some Pentax lenses. Pentax users want real answers that reflect the lens quality whether good or bad. I find this also telling that some who own the stellar CDI lens in question and swear by it get dissapointed when comparing it to competitors lenses one of them costing half the price. Now who do you believe in? Your own eyes or a magazine test? Now would you go to a resturant repeatedly that serves terrible food just beacuse a magazine gave it glowing review? I have very much against lens tests as published in most magazines. Often they have very little bearing on realities. Some of them do seem to assess the true quality of the lens but I've never seen a pattern here. Hence, I don't believe in them. Eg. the CDI tests of the FA* 85/1.4 is far off the mark. So is the CDI test of the Pentax A* lenses something that consistent with the opinion of most people who have used them. The Swedish (test performed by Hasselblad) of the A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8 and A* 300/2.8 put them among the best lenses on the planet. By CDI they are run of the mill. The Photodo tests of the FA* 80-200 show it to be a rotten lens. Although I haven't used it, has anyone heard anything but gloving reports from people with personal experiences with this lens? --- I have some really VERY large on potato of knowing that people that I connas not in a corner that I am unaware of speaks about me by blaming my honesty whereas I have tjs defended the interest of Pentax nozzle and nails, when the mark was justifiable (and obviously criticized what was criticizable, it is my job!). Then, if the fact of belonging at a minority community returns all to you intolerant so much so that it would be to us interdict to have a negative opinion when it is based and argued on your mark cherished; if the fact of daring a criticism by justifying it by rational and verifiable arguments makes us pass for traitors to the cause, I say it to you any Net, I prefer that you read other ducks where, at least, you will be peinards. everyone it is beautiful and nice since it passes from the advertizing! Ci is not the bulletin of connection of the sect of the admirer of Pentax nor a political party blind man and deaf person dedicated to defense corporatist of the interests of a minority, that it is said! I authorize to you to echo my remarks, because I will make exactly the same remarks as a public! But I do not authorize anybody to disguise my thought by deforming it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Hood for 28-70/4AL
Hi, I few weeks back there was a discussion on Nikon hoods to fit the Pentax FA28-70/4, I think it was Shel. I was wondering what the part number was for this hood? as I neglected to write it down at the time. I assume the standard 52mm lense cap can be used with the hood? Thanks, Paul Jones _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-S and FA31Ltd)
Ok, Peter, I didnt want to push you to use this method. I thought that it was easier and economic than having something making holes or burning the film. The approach to write the number of roll instead of the frame, works better if you use 18 frames of a roll and 20 days pass until your next shooting session. You can also loose the notebook paper where you wrote down the frame numbers. You don't have to remember nothing. You take the roll and look at the number wrote in the canister. You dial that memory and the camera goes automatically to the appropiate frame. The reset function works when you want to develop the roll in the middle of it and use the memory for another roll. Regards Martin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-Sand FA31Ltd)
Just an idea: Could the film manufacturers not put a magnetic 'sticker' on the outside of 35mm film canisters. The camera could auto record read film info like last used fram ISO override etc and use it for mid roll change etc. If a film was loaded without the magnetic 'sticker' then obviously some functionality would be lost and we would have to input film no or frame no manually. We could also buy strips of stickers to put on 'non-compatible' film ourselves if we really want the functionality and we are either using old film or film from a manufacturer which has not subscribed to this upgrade. No change to the film/format, ultimate compatibility and an upgrade in functionality. The only problem might be persuading the film manufacturers to absorb the extra cost of putting stickers on all films - perhaps they could limit it to the professional films only? Surely this would be a winner as a halfway house to APS functionality in our 35mm cameras? Rob Brigham - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
?? 85/1.8 auction on ebay already ended?
auction says 'item no longer available FS' . and here I thought it would reach incredible heights... or perhaps a japanses collector made the seller an offer he couldnt resist. Daphne - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
?? 85/1.8 auction on ebay already ended?
auction says 'item no longer available FS' . and here I thought it would reach incredible heights... or perhaps a japanse collector made the seller an offer he couldnt resist. Daphne - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-S and FA31Ltd)
I was wrong about Contax: No Contax SLR can remember the most recent frame in a rewound roll. I was confusing this capability with the optional Advanced Data Back D-8. The dtaback records exposure or date information in-between freames, or can be set to store information and print this information for the entire roll onto the first two frames during rewind. The D-8 is offered on the flagship AX and the ultralight Aria, so I would assume it's available on all models in-between. Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Favorite Film Roll Call Results UPDATE 1
Albano, Supra 200 doesn't exist. It comes in 100, 400, and 800. A typo? Joe Not a typo. A member told me "I love all Supra familiy. Specially 200 speed". So, since members must choose just one I put him/her for Supra 200. I'm not a film expert, and didn't knew it doesn't exist. I would love if future submissions put clearly name, speed and class of film (color, b and w, etc) Regards Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Subject: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images-translated !!!!!!!!
In regards to this; "Hello My translation is not good !!! I just want to explain this after reading that some members are still thinking that CdI Tests are not reliable And after this mail, I think I will unsuscribe the pdml First, because I will not have enought time to spend there and also I am fed up with argueing about reliable tests or not. (As far as I have always readen all the tests and not the stars only. I do think that saying true helps more Pentax ) Sorry, but even I hope I would be selected for the Pug in a coming future, it seems that here, I do not find the mud for staying. See you [EMAIL PROTECTED] Concernant les pentaxistes amricains ! -Amricains, franais ou javanais, les penxistes comme les contaxistes, leicaistes et qqs autres commencent me courir sur le haricot, svre ! About US Pentaxists : I am going to be fed up with American, french or javanish pentaxists or contaxists or leicaists and others. (the exact expression is very french) En effet, quel journal autre que CI, quels journalistes autres que ma pomme, Denis ou GMC ont dfendu avec acharnement le droit de vivre et de prosprer des marques "secondaires" ? Qui a publi des tests logieux sur les objectifs Leica ? Sur les botiers Pentax ? Sur les systmes et les meilleurs objectifs de chaque marque ? Indeed, CI (CdI) , jurnalists such as me, GMC or Denis always fight with heart to defend the right to live for "secondary class" Trades, by publing laudatory tests about Leica Lens, Pentax SLR, and in fact all systems and best lens and items of each trade , do not we ? J'en ai vraiment TRES gros sur la patate de savoir que des gens que je ne connas pas dans un coin que j' ignore parlent de moi en mettant en cause mon honntet alors que j'ai tjs dfendu l'intrt de Pentax bec et ongles, quand la marque tait dfendable (et videmment critiqu ce qui tait critiquable, c'est mon boulot !). I feel my soul bleeding by hearing that some people who I do not know from a country which I do ignore, these people are talking about me and suppecting my honesty when I always defend with armed hands the Pentax interest when the trade is defensible. ( and of course, I criticize things that have to be, because it is the essence of my job !) Alors, si le fait d'appartenir une communaut minoritaire vous rend tous intolrants au point qu'il nous serait interdit d'avoir une opinion ngative lorsqu'elle est fonde et argumente sur votre marque chrie; si le fait d' oser une critique en la justifiant par des arguments rationnels et vrifiables nous fait passer pour des tratres la cause, je te le dis tout net, je prfre que vous lisiez d'autres canards o, au moins, vous serez peinards. tout le monde il est beau et gentil ds lors qu'il passe de la pub ! If the fact that belonging to a minor community makes you all intolerant such as you cannot have a negative opinion for your favorite trade even when it is due to a real fact or after objectif arguing, if the only fact to dare to express a review, justified by rationnal and verifiable arguments , if this only fact leads you to see us as treacherous to Pentax, then I prefer you to read an other magazine where at last, you will feel relax, because thanks to commercial, everything will appear perfect and kind ! CI n'est pas le bulletin de liaison de la secte des adorateur de Pentax ni un parti politique aveugle et sourd ddi la dfense corporatiste des intrts d'une minorit, qu'on se le dise ! CdI is not weekly news of the sect of worshippers of Pentax nor a politic party which is blinkly or deafly dedicated to defending minor community interests ! Je t'autorise faire cho mes remarques, car je tiendrai exactement les mmes propos en public ! Mais je n'autorise personne travestir ma pense en la dformant. I allow you (Pentaxclover) to echo this notices because this is exactly the same words I will express in public ! But I allow noone to pervert my thougs by deforming them Amitis", I have but one thing to say, and it is. HUH?!? fairy. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Poor translation! Concerning the American pentaxists! - Americans, French or javanais, the penxists like the contaxists, leicaists and qqs others start to run me on bean, severe! Indeed, which different newspaper than Ci, which different journalists than my apple, Denis or GMC defended with eagerness the right to live and thrive of the " secondary " marks? Who published eulogistic tests on the Leica objectives? On the Pentax cases? On the systems and the best objectives of each mark? I have some really VERY large on potato of knowing that people that I connas not in a corner that I am unaware of speaks about me by blaming my honesty whereas I have tjs defended the interest of Pentax nozzle and nails, when the mark was justifiable (and obviously criticized what was criticizable, it is my job!). Then, if the fact of belonging at a minority community returns all to you intolerant so much so that it would be to us interdict to have a negative opinion when it is based and argued on your mark cherished; if the fact of daring a criticism by justifying it by rational and verifiable arguments makes us pass for traitors to the cause, I say it to you any Net, I prefer that you read other ducks where, at least, you will be peinards. everyone it is beautiful and nice since it passes from the advertizing! Ci is not the bulletin of connection of the sect of the admirer of Pentax nor a political party blind man and deaf person dedicated to defense corporatist of the interests of a minority, that it is said! I authorize to you to echo my remarks, because I will make exactly the same remarks as a public! But I do not authorize anybody to disguise my thought by deforming it. Friendships -- Ronan Loac [EMAIL PROTECTED] the Small Mound - 86100 SENILLE Tel.: +33 (0)5 4985 4985 Faxes: +33 (0)5 4985 4999 - Original Message - From: "Pentax Clover" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 3:32 AM Subject: Direct from Chasseur d'Images Hello This is a Email I received from CdI and I wish to show to all of you ! See you [EMAIL PROTECTED] Concernant les pentaxistes amricains ! -Amricains, franais ou javanais, les penxistes comme les contaxistes, leicaistes et qqs autres commencent me courir sur le haricot, svre ! En effet, quel journal autre que CI, quels journalistes autres que ma pomme, Denis ou GMC ont dfendu avec acharnement le droit de vivre et de prosprer des marques "secondaires" ? Qui a publi des tests logieux sur les objectifs Leica ? Sur les botiers Pentax ? Sur les systmes et les meilleurs objectifs de chaque marque ? J'en ai vraiment TRES gros sur la patate de savoir que des gens que je ne connas pas dans un coin que j' ignore parlent de moi en mettant en cause mon honntet alors que j'ai tjs dfendu l'intrt de Pentax bec et ongles, quand la marque tait dfendable (et videmment critiqu ce qui tait critiquable, c'est mon boulot !). Alors, si le fait d'appartenir une communaut minoritaire vous rend tous intolrants au point qu'il nous serait interdit d'avoir une opinion ngative lorsqu'elle est fonde et argumente sur votre marque chrie; si le fait d' oser une critique en la justifiant par des arguments rationnels et vrifiables nous fait passer pour des tratres la cause, je te le dis tout net, je prfre que vous lisiez d'autres canards o, au moins, vous serez peinards. tout le monde il est beau et gentil ds lors qu'il passe de la pub ! CI n'est pas le bulletin de liaison de la secte des adorateur de Pentax ni un parti politique aveugle et sourd ddi la dfense corporatiste des intrts d'une minorit, qu'on se le dise ! Je t'autorise faire cho mes remarques, car je tiendrai exactement les mmes propos en public ! Mais je n'autorise personne travestir ma pense en la dformant. Amitis -- Ronan Loac [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Petite Motte - 86100 SENILLE Tl : +33 (0)5 4985 4985 Fax : +33 (0)5 4985 4999 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS - LX plus lenses - Scotland...
Hi, Spotted the following advert in this week's British AP: Verbatim: PENTAX LX OUTFIT FA-1 Grip B OP-TECH strap. 24 f2.8, 28f2'A', 35f2'M', 50f1.4'M', 85f1.4A*, 135f2.5, 200f4'M' all in Tamrac pro bag and exc condition several rare items will split 0141 357 5896 -- The area code is Scotland (Edinburgh, I think). Go get 'em. Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads www.macads.co.uk Make it so! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Subject: Re: Fairy Pics...
Paul Stenquist wrote; "Hi Fairy, Some beautiful pictures here. I particularly love the BW of the grouped flowers, the flower toppling over in the vase, and the baby on the cloud. (I guess I'm a softy.) Many other good shots as well. Nice work. Paul" Thanks for taking the time to view my pics and to comment, Paul. Ths shots that you mentioned are my favourites too. It is actually quite interesting as the bw shot of the tulips is quite possibly my MOST favourite pic I have ever shot, and yet it doesn't tend to draw the attention that the colour ones do. I just love the contrast and the way the light falls on the top of the flowers. Speaking of light, I forgot to mention that EVERYTHING on that page was shot with only available light (I only own one flash - a crappy Achiever 630AF, that doesn't seem to work properly - always seems to overexpose everything so I rarely use it). The first group of shots on that page (the still lifes) are about a month old now, but I have left them there as collectively, they are still my all time favourites. I am glad that you enjoyed viewing them and thanks again for commenting. BTW, for anyone who is interested, I just had a phone call from the mum of the two little girls that I shot on the weekend (the little girl dressed as a fairy is the sister of the one with the coloured flowers around her). She was so overjoyed with the results. She called me a "legend!". Anyways, apparently she took them to the childrens day care centre this afternoon and now has a list of at least 10 other mums that want me to perform some sort of magic with their kids. Of course, I am extremely excited by this prospect (I may actually be able to make some money to buy the new flash that I need and a decent printeranother PZ-1P would be nice too...) but at the same time am also extremely nervous at the idea. I mean, this could turn into a very large volume of work, and what if the shots I did this past weekend were just a fluke and I end up stuffing up big time with the next lo t? Then my name would be mud in a very small town where I have suddenly been placed at celebrity status just cause I managed to make this lady's little girls look cute on film (they already look extremely cute in real life). Also, I am a little worried that I will run short of ideas to make each shoot as individual to the child as possible. I don't want to become like these supermarket jobs such as Pixifotos where they do the same setup with each kid regardless of their personality, take 10 shots (all of them smiling or laughing) and then say, "next" I also don't want to be denigrated to doing cheesy and gimmicky setups with the kids, I'd like to keep them as natural as possible while still adding some element of creativity and fun into the shots. Ok, so I know I am rambling, so I'll shut it now, but any advice from others who have shot alot of family/portraits/kids would be greatly appreciated. fairy. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[3]: Subject: e-bay words (very OT!)
I must assume so, Peter. If anyone could have written it, Twain could. By the way: Do you know what words are denoted by the acronym TWAIN,the "universal" scanner interface? Technology Without An Interesting Name. I kid you not. "Peter Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nis won Paul. Is xat rili Mark Twain's ritin? Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: (703) 834-4648 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Hello It was personnal E mail! But some times you can read such thing in the magazine ! See you [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Norman Baugher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: mardi 10 avril 2001 16:24 Subject: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images Was that sent to you or published? Norm Pl Jensen wrote: Well, this idiot seems to acuse Pentax users for getting pissed off wherever CDI publish a test that don't give pentax rave rewiev. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images...ERROR
Hello I did a big mistake ! I may not have to translate the mail to you as it has been asked to me(he do not wish his name and his words being deformed as it is already happened !) I am sorry and hope you will understand. So if this is possible thank you for delete it. At least, I try to make you feel and understand my point of view. Now as far as each one leave its life, I let you choose if you think I go wrong or not. Sorry See you [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Norman Baugher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: mardi 10 avril 2001 16:24 Subject: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images Was that sent to you or published? Norm Pl Jensen wrote: Well, this idiot seems to acuse Pentax users for getting pissed off wherever CDI publish a test that don't give pentax rave rewiev. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-Sand FA31Ltd)
-Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 April 2001 15:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-Sand FA31Ltd) It would be easier for them to use the same sype of technology as is used in APS, with a magnetic encoding strip on the film itself. BTW, the APS system is extremely problematic. Considering the amount of RD that went into it, I am surprised it is as bad as it is. William Robb Not sure how it would be easier to change the film manufacture process and possibly film size than it would be to stick a magnetic label on the film canister? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Reasonable price for A* 1.8 135mm lens
There's one in a store here in Buenos Aires for about usd 1000 in supposed ex+ condition (I didn't inspected it because I will never have this money to spend in just one lens). If somebody is interested I can give the phone number (don't know them don't know if they are trustable). - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Hello does not matter americans or french, in France you can find such a unbelievers ! See you [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those of you keeping score at home, here is where we stand: A Scandinavian complained that a French magazine rated some Pentax lenses too high and others too low, so in response a French reader of said French magazine wrote to someone at the magazine. In response, someone at the magazine said that Americans, whose opinions don't count anyway, should read another magazine. This is fun. Doug Quoting Cy Galley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Poor translation! Concerning the American pentaxists! - Americans, French or javanais, the penxists like the contaxists, leicaists and qqs others start to run me on bean, severe! Indeed, which different newspaper than Ci, which different journalists than my apple, Denis or GMC defended with eagerness the right to live and thrive of the " secondary " marks? Who published eulogistic tests on the Leica objectives? On the Pentax cases? On the systems and the best objectives of each mark? I have some really VERY large on potato of knowing that people that I connaîs not in a corner that I am unaware of speaks about me by blaming my honesty whereas I have tjs defended the interest of Pentax nozzle and nails, when the mark was justifiable (and obviously criticized what was criticizable, it is my job!). Then, if the fact of belonging at a minority community returns all to you intolerant so much so that it would be to us interdict to have a negative opinion when it is based and argued on your mark cherished; if the fact of daring a criticism by justifying it by rational and verifiable arguments makes us pass for traitors to the cause, I say it to you any Net, I prefer that you read other ducks where, at least, you will be peinards. everyone it is beautiful and nice since it passes from the advertizing! Ci is not the bulletin of connection of the sect of the admirer of Pentax nor a political party blind man and deaf person dedicated to defense corporatist of the interests of a minority, that it is said! I authorize to you to echo my remarks, because I will make exactly the same remarks as a public! But I do not authorize anybody to disguise my thought by deforming it. Friendships -- Ronan Loaëc [EMAIL PROTECTED] the Small Mound - 86100 SENILLE Tel.: +33 (0)5 4985 4985 Faxes: +33 (0)5 4985 4999 Ashwood Lake Photography http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-SandFA31Ltd)
on 4/10/01 11:09 AM, K.Takeshita at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/10/01 10:29 AM, William Robb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the APS system is extremely problematic. Considering the amount of RD that went into it, I am surprised it is as bad as it is. I never had any problem with the APS I currently have, not a single one, but I know it is rather an exception. Oops, I have to be precise. I never had a problem asociated with the film cassette itself but did have a few occasions wherein the processor returned washed out prints or yellow cast for the flash photos. In the first ASA800 film processing, they returned a bit bluish cast photos. These were eventually corrected, but this does indicate that the processor may have some difficulty in processing the APS films for whatever reason. This particular processor is a pro lab (Fuji) and they do a superb job on all my 35mm and MedF films, although I know that they tend to dismiss the APS format (I am only using Fuji Nexia APS film for no particular reason. I hear good things about the Kodak Max 400 APS film which I might try). Perhaps, Bill could give us some insight. Cheers, Ken - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Favorite Film Roll Call Results UPDATE 2
These are the conditions: 1 - You must answer off-list, right to me. 2 - You must choose your favorite emulsion (35 and 120/220 allowed. Color and b and w) 3 - You must choose ONLY ONE (color print OR slide OR b and w, etc). 4 - You must have personal experience with it. WINNER by now: Kodak Tri-X with 6 votes Members: 35 COLOR (Print and Slide): Kodak Kodachrome 25 (2) Fuji Velvia (2) Kodak Kodachrome 64 (2) Kodak Elitechrome Extra Color 100 (2) Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS (3) Fuji Sensia II 100 (2) Fuji Provia 100F (1) Fuji Reala 100 (1) Kodak Portra 160 NC (1) Kodak Kodachrome 200 (1) Kodak Supra 200? (1) Kodak Max 400 (1) Kodak Ektapress PJ 400 (1) Kodak Supra 400 (1) Kodak Portra 400 NC (1) Agfa HDC 400 (1) Kodak Portra 800 (1) Fuji Press 800 (1) Kodak PJC 1600 (1) BLACK AND WHITE: Kodak Plus-X (1) Kodak Tri-X (6) Agfa APX 400 (1) INFRARED: Kodak HIE (1) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Favorite Lens Roll Call Results UPDATE 9
These are the conditions: 1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be included. 2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE. 3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed. 4 - Primes and zooms. 5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc. 6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it, had it, lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would be a wish list. First Place (4 votes): FA* 24 2 Members: 88 K 15 3.5 (1) A 15 3.5 (1) A 20 2.8 (1) K 24 2.8 (3) A 24 2.8 (1) FA* 24 2 (4) K 28 3.5 (1) K 28 3.5 Shift (1) M 28 2.8 (1) A 28 2 (1) FA 35 2 (1) M 40 2.8 (3) FA 43 1.9 Limited (1) SuperTak 50 1.4 (1) SMC Tak 50 1.4 (1) SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2) K 50 1.2 (2) M 50 1.4 (3) M 50 1.7 (2) M 50 4 Macro (1) A 50 1.4 (4) FA 50 1.4 (2) FA 50 1.7 (1) K 55 1.8 (1) FA 77 1.8 Limited (2) SMC Tak 85 1.8 (1) K 85 1.8 (1) M 85 2 (1) A* 85 1.4 (2) FA* 85 1.4 (2) M 100 4 Macro (1) M 100 4 Dental Macro (1) A 100 2.8 (1) A 100 2.8 Macro (2) F 100 2.8 Macro (1) FA 100 2.8 Macro (3) K 105 2.8 (2) K 135 2.5 (1) A 135 2.8 (1) Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1) A* 200 2.8 (1) A* 200 4 Macro (2) A* 300 2.8 (1) F* 300 4.5 (2) FA* 400 5.6 (1) FA 20-35 4 (3) M 24-50 4 (1) FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (1) F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (1) A 35-105 3.5 (2) K 45-125 4 (1) M 75-150 4 (2) A 70-210 4 (1) A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1) FA* 80-200 2.8 (1) 6x7 SMC 45 4 (1) 6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1) 6x7 SMC 55 4 (1) 67 165 4 LS (1) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Favorite Lens Roll Call Results UPDATE 9 CORRECTED
These are the conditions: 1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be included. 2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE. 3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed. 4 - Primes and zooms. 5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc. 6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it, had it, lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would be a wish list. First Place (4 votes): FA* 24 2 and A 50 1.4 Members: 88 K 15 3.5 (1) A 15 3.5 (1) A 20 2.8 (1) K 24 2.8 (3) A 24 2.8 (1) FA* 24 2 (4) K 28 3.5 (1) K 28 3.5 Shift (1) M 28 2.8 (1) A 28 2 (1) FA 35 2 (1) M 40 2.8 (3) FA 43 1.9 Limited (1) SuperTak 50 1.4 (1) SMC Tak 50 1.4 (1) SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2) K 50 1.2 (2) M 50 1.4 (3) M 50 1.7 (2) M 50 4 Macro (1) A 50 1.4 (4) FA 50 1.4 (2) FA 50 1.7 (1) K 55 1.8 (1) FA 77 1.8 Limited (2) SMC Tak 85 1.8 (1) K 85 1.8 (1) M 85 2 (1) A* 85 1.4 (2) FA* 85 1.4 (2) M 100 4 Macro (1) M 100 4 Dental Macro (1) A 100 2.8 (1) A 100 2.8 Macro (2) F 100 2.8 Macro (1) FA 100 2.8 Macro (3) K 105 2.8 (2) K 135 2.5 (1) A 135 2.8 (1) Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1) A* 200 2.8 (1) A* 200 4 Macro (2) A* 300 2.8 (1) F* 300 4.5 (2) FA* 400 5.6 (1) FA 20-35 4 (3) M 24-50 4 (1) FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (1) F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (1) A 35-105 3.5 (2) K 45-125 4 (1) M 75-150 4 (2) A 70-210 4 (1) A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1) FA* 80-200 2.8 (1) 6x7 SMC 45 4 (1) 6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1) 6x7 SMC 55 4 (1) 67 165 4 LS (1) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Clover wrote: By the way you demonstrate me something, being a pentaxist fan do not make you smarter. May be you prefer to stay in your own opinion, that is a choice I can understand. This is like bible, you may or not trust the reliable facts inside. But if you come with the intention of not believing , you will never understand. I'm glad you said that this is about beliefs and its apparent that for you this is religion. You ask people to blindly believe whats published in CDI and you apparently do it in spite that your own test contradicts CDI's tests. Now thats belief! I believe in my own experience with lenses. In fact, I bought that five star tested CDI lens. I expected stellar performance. In fact, the result was so far off any five star mark that I promptly assumed that my lens was faulty. I sent it with complaints to a poor Pentax repair man who measured it at every means and shot test rolls and compared it with other lenses of the same kind. Mine was found perfect and optical quality was indistinguishable from other lenses of its kind. So much for CDI tests. I guess I should accept that my not so sharp slides was really great and that this must be hallucination on my part. I should blindly believe in CDI and disregard my own eyes. BTW I found exactly the same light fall off at the cornesr you did. Also the same less than sharp performance. Strange for a lens thats as good as they come according to CDI. Why don't you stop asking people to blindly believe. Why not look at the facts. I'm certainly convinced that you won't find any users of the A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8 or A* 300/2.8 that would rate it at "3" on a scale from 3-5. This is compared to any other lens. I'm not saying that anyone should believe ME or anyone else. Just that they should believe their own result and don't blindly follow magazine test because they rarely are accurate. However, my experience is that among Pentax users with firsthand experience from lenses, there isn't much disagreement or controversy. People mostly agree on lenses and dincrepancies is at best minor - theres a remarkable degree of consensus. And in spite of what that CDI guy implies, theres absolutely no blind Pentax following here. Both lenses and cameras get bashed regularly when they deserve it (and sometimes when they don't). The fact that they answer in a such anger only show how much they trust their tests because of their experience. As you feel hurt when someone hits your sons or daughters. I have no doubt that they perform their test in a reliable and repeatable manner and that the test itself its trustworthy - nobody accuse them of falsifying tests. But that is not what this is about. The point is how this test translate into meaningful information about real life use. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Favorite Film Roll Call Results UPDATE 2
BOOO - Boring, boring, boring! :-) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WINNER by now: Kodak Tri-X with 6 votes - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
AURORA WARNING UPDATE: Mid-Latitude Auroral Activity Warning - 10 Apr
Just an FYI... Tom C. - Original Message - From: "STD Listserver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 6:13 AM Subject: AURORA WARNING UPDATE: Mid-Latitude Auroral Activity Warning - 10 Apr /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY WARNING UPDATED: 11:45 UTC, 10 APRIL 2001 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ *** POTENTIAL FOR MODERATE TO HIGH ACTIVITY EXISTS *** MAJOR X2.2/3B SOLAR FLARE AND CME PROMPTS ADJUSTMENT TO FORECAST VALID BEGINNING AT: 21:00 UTC ON 10 APRIL VALID UNTIL: 19:00 UTC ON 13 APRIL HIGH RISK PERIOD: 11 - 12 APRIL (UTC DAYS) MODERATE RISK PERIOD: 11 - 13 APRIL PREDICTED ACTIVITY INDICES: 12, 60, 50, 15 (10 APRIL - 13 APRIL) POTENTIAL MAGNITUDE OF MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY: MODERATE TO HIGH POTENTIAL DURATION OF THIS ACTIVITY: MAIN BELT = 18 TO 24 HOURS MINOR BELT = 24 TO 36 HOURS ESTIMATED OPTIMUM OBSERVING CONDITIONS: PRIOR TO AND NEAR LOCAL MIDNIGHT EXPECTED LUNAR INTERFERENCE: NONE PRIOR TO MIDNIGHT, HIGH AFTER MOONRISE OVERALL OPPORTUNITY FOR OBSERVATIONS FROM MIDDLE LATITUDES: FAIR TO GOOD AURORAL ACTIVITY *MAY* BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM... NORTHERN TO POSSIBLY CENTRAL CALIFORNIA TO NEVADA TO NORTHERN ARIZONA TO NEW MEXICO TO NORTHERN TEXAS TO OKLAHOMA TO SOUTHERN ARKANSAS TO MISSISSIPPI TO ALABAMA TO GEORGIA TO SOUTH CAROLINA (*IF* AND *ONLY IF* FAVORABLE SOLAR WIND CONDITIONS DEVELOP OVER NORTH AMERICA PRIOR TO MOONRISE). A MORE REALISTIC EXPECTATION MAY BE A LINE ROUGHLY NORTH OF OREGON TO SOUTHERN IDAHO TO SOUTHERN WYOMING TO NEBRASKA TO IOWA TO ILLINOIS TO INDIANA TO KENTUCKY TO WEST VERGINIA TO CENTRAL VIRGINIA. ACTIVITY *MAY* ALSO BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM... NORTHERN SPAIN TO SOUTHERN FRANCE TO NORTHERN ITALY TO SLOVENIA TO NORTHERN CROATIA TO NORTHERN YUGOSLAVIA TO ROMANIA TO SOUTHERN UKRAINE TO SOUTH-WESTERN RUSSIA APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM VORONEZH TO SARANSK TO KAZAN TO PERM AND EAST-CENTRAL RUSSIA (*IF* AND *ONLY IF* FAVORABLE SOLAR WIND CONDITIONS DEVELOP OVER EUROPE AND RUSSIA PRIOR TO MOONRISE). A MORE REALISTIC EXPECTATION MAY BE A LINE ROUGHLY NORTH OF NORTHERN FRANCE TO CENTRAL GERMANY TO SOUTH-CENTRAL POLAND TO SOUTHERN BELARUS TO SOUTH OF MOSCOW TO KIROV TO OTHER NORTHERN TO NORTH-CENTRAL RUSSIAN REGIONS. SYNOPSIS... Addendum: A major class X2.2/3B solar flare was observed at 05:27 UTC on 10 April. Although there was no complementary SOHO data to analyze at the time of this addendum, observed features suggest this event may have been associated with a halo CME travelling at a velocity up to perhaps twice the velocity of the CME observed on 09 April. If this holds true, a major to severe auroral storm may develop during the mid to late UTC hours of 11 April following the arrival of this second major disturbance (sometime near or after 06:00 to 15:00 UTC on 11 April, or 2 am to 11 am EDT on 11 April). These are preliminary times and may be adjusted when more data becomes available. Major to severe auroral storming is still contingent upon favorable solar wind conditions behind the shock front of the disturbance as well as observing the intense phase of activity prior to moonrise. In addition to the above, a heavily Earth-directed and fairly high velocity coronal mass ejection was observed erupting from the Sun in association with a major class M7.9 solar x-ray flare at 15:34 UTC on 09 April. Impact of this disturbance is expected to occur sometime during the early UTC day of 11 April followed some hours later by the potentially larger impact of the X-class flare associated CME. Observers are encouraged to watch the skies during the nights of 11 and 12 April for possible activity. Moonrise occurs near local midnight over most regions on these dates. As a result, optimal observing conditions will occur after the sun sets and before the moon rises. The near-full phase of the rising moon will heavily drown out the fainter signatures of auroral activity. Additional Earth-directed coronal mass ejections are possible over the next several days. This warning will remain in effect until 19:00 UTC on 13 April. It will then be updated or allowed to expire. For Real-Time News and Discussions with Experienced Aurora Photographers: http://www.spacew.com/irc and join the #aurora channel (type /join #aurora) WE HAVE A DISCUSSION FORUM FOR AURORA ENTHUSIASTS AVAILABLE AT: http://www.spacew.com/aurora/forum.html PLEASE REPORT OBSERVATIONS OF AURORAL ACTIVITY TO:
RE: This filter stinks!
Mark, Look real close. Does it actually say "Aroma" or could it be "Aruma"? Len --- -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: This filter stinks! Just received a batch of lenses and stuff I bought in an eBay auction. Got a whole bunch of filters, one of which bears the brand name "Aroma" ;-) Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
In actuality, anybody in the world that criticizes the French for anything, is, by French definition, an American. Len --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images Doug wrote: A Scandinavian complained that a French magazine rated some Pentax lenses too high and others too low, so in response a French reader of said French magazine wrote to someone at the magazine. In response, someone at the magazine said that Americans, whose opinions don't count anyway, should read another magazine. This is fun. Doug, you should ask for a job in "Reader's Digest" :-) Saludos Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
A scroll of mail from Pl Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:58:35 +0200 Read it? y The Photodo tests of the FA* 80-200 show it to be a rotten lens. Although I haven't used it, has anyone heard anything but gloving reports from people with personal experiences with this lens? Negative reports on this are nearly always due to the 1.5kg weight. I've never had any worries about the optical performance. dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Camera World Price for MZ-S
Mark Erickson wrote: Camera World is showing the Pentax MZ-S. I put one into a shopping cart and it came up with US $929. It also says "Call for availability". I did, and they say it should be in stock in two or three weeks. We'll see. BH, of course, are shut down for the next week - they aren't even accepting email - so there's no way to get a quote from them. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Reasonable price for A* 1.8 135mm lens
"Jan van Wijk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick question, I saw a private-add offering this lens, no price mentioned. Before calling, I would like to know what they usualy go for ... Jan, "Reasonable price for A* 1.8 135mm lens" is the oxymoron to end all oxymorons. The last two to be sold on EBay, in February, went for $1,800 and $1,810 US. In the real world, as reported on this list: $390, private sale in 1997, (Someone must have been desperate or ignorant of its scarcity and desirability.) $650 (private sale) in 1998 $750 in EX+, private sale in 1998 $819 in LN- at KEH in Sept. 1998 $500 private sale, March 1999 $1,100 from an Italian dealer, May 1999 I have no citations from my Web combings for 2000 or 2001. So EBay aside, it sounds as though a private sale is the best way to get a good price. If you're buying to actually use the lens, be aware of thre much cheaper alternatives: 1. Several list members have recently praised the Pentax 135/2.8 FA (52mm filters) is a metal-barreled autofocus lens that goes for at $350 to $400 used. is said to have fine performance even at f/2.8 and f/4. It can focus as close as 2.3 feet! 2. The Pentax SMC 135/2.5 (58mm filters) is a jewel valued for its bokeh and color rendering and saturation. It is little-known outside this list. You can find these on several Web dealers at any time for $100 to $200. 3. The Vivitar Series 1 135/2.3 (77mm filters), while nearly impossible to find in its mulicoated K mount version (I've found one K in three years), is commonly available in autodiaphragm M42 screwmount, which should also solve the protruding ridge compatibility problem when you mount it to a Pentax K-mount adapter. Unlike the K that succeeded it, the M42 lens may not be multicoated--it doesn't say VMC--but it focuses to 3 feet. I can provide URLs of a few for sale, but they're periodically available on EBay and can be found in Minolta, Canon, Konica, and Olympus MF bayonet mounts. The Vivitar is said to be very sharp even wide open...a claim that even the SMC 135/1.8A* cannot make. Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: (703) 834-4648 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
dave o'brien wrote: A scroll of mail from Pl Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:58:35 +0200 Read it? y The Photodo tests of the FA* 80-200 show it to be a rotten lens. Although I haven't used it, has anyone heard anything but gloving reports from people with personal experiences with this lens? Negative reports on this are nearly always due to the 1.5kg weight. I've never had any worries about the optical performance. It's pretty darn good for a zoom lens, but can be bettered by a good prime (like the A* 200/2.8). It does suffer from a certain amount of light drop-off in the corners under certain circumstances. But calling it a rotten lens is definitely an overstatement. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
"Paris, Leonard" wrote: In actuality, anybody in the world that criticizes the French for anything, is, by French definition, an American. Or, possibly, English. But in either case they are, of course, wrong. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-SandFA31Ltd)
Why don't we just wait until the MZ-S starts shipping? Then we'll *KNOW* what technique it uses for rewind memory. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Reasonable price for A* 1.8 135mm lens
Want to cry? In 1986, the 135/1.8A* was being advertised by Cambridge Camera Exchange for $299. Of course, that's before, "Sir, would you like glass with that? And a focusing ring? And..." Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
URGENT Help needed valuating lens
This is the situation, I won a couple of K mount lenses on a Spanish auction site. One is a M50/1.7 an the other is a XR Rikenon zoom 1/3.5 70-150 Macro (heavy lens by the way, manual focus as well). The 50 is in excellent condition and I already paid it. However, there seems to be some kind of problem with the zoom (unless it works in a different way than the M50) The apperture ring doesn't 'stop' very clearly at every stop (sorry about my English here), but, the most strange is that nothing seems to happen when doing this (it seems that the lens is alwais at the max. aperture, I can't see nothing 'closing') I didn't pay for it. The seller let me test it at home, with the camera, wich I am going to do tonight. He is asking me about $43, but I think I could renegotiate if the lens needs repair. The question, before testing it at home is: Have you ever heard about this lens? How does it performs? Is it possible that the aperture only works when the lens is in the camera? Is it worth it to pay it $43 (if the lens finally works fine) or to have it repaired? I should tell him something tomorrow... Thanks in advance, Jaume (Mark I copied you because Paul Stregevsky told me you were the PDML Ricoh expert) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-Sand FA31Ltd)
800-speed APS film is quite new, isn't it? Like two months old? Perhaps it requires its own processing channel and all labs will have to learn with experience. In my view, the arrival of 800-speed APS film breathes new life into the format, especially for available-light fans. But only if you get a serious (f/2.8) camera that lets you override the exposure and the default film-speed setting, and that respects "no flash" as a default setting so that you need not turn the flash OFF before every shot. Off the top of my head, I can think of just one model that meets these criteria: Contax. Are there others? The Contax is PRICEY; for that money, I could have an equally small (smaller?) Minolta TC-1, a 35mm rangefinder with an f/3.5 lens; or a nearly-as-small Contax T1 or T2 f/2.8 35mm rangefinder. Ken Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the first ASA800 film processing, they returned a bit bluish cast photos. These were eventually corrected, but this does indicate that the processor may have some difficulty in processing the APS films for whatever reason. This particular processor is a pro lab (Fuji) and they do a superb job on all my 35mm and MedF films Paul Franklin Stregevsky, Technical Writer NEC America, Inc. Mail Stop VA-4610 14040 Park Center Rd. Herndon, VA 20171-3227 [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: (703) 834-4648 H: (301) 349-5243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
When Popular Photography's Herb Keppler was a young man starting out in photography, he was apprenticing for a well-known German photographer--the name escapes me--who had moved to America. Keppler had just read about a new lens, that used a new design, and went on to describe its optical advantages to his mentor, who was in his fifties or sixties. After a minute or so, the mentor interrupted him and said, "I see; what you're telling me is that the lens is sharper. But does it reveal more truth?" Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: (703) 834-4648 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Hello Please remind that my test is not reliable. (I do not own 2 Millions FrenchFrancs tools to mesure it, but each time CdI test a lens and even the TRade disagree the result, when trade's engineers come to CdI resort, to test by their own, you know the result it quite the same) Even if I prefer to see as a religion (from your point of view) I prefer to talk about good tool. It is like a scale you can use for comparing lens... Now if the test reveals some trouble, they will try my own 85mm f/:1.4... See you [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Pl Jensen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: mardi 10 avril 2001 18:14 Subject: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images Clover wrote: By the way you demonstrate me something, being a pentaxist fan do not make you smarter. May be you prefer to stay in your own opinion, that is a choice I can understand. This is like bible, you may or not trust the reliable facts inside. But if you come with the intention of not believing , you will never understand. I'm glad you said that this is about beliefs and its apparent that for you this is religion. You ask people to blindly believe whats published in CDI and you apparently do it in spite that your own test contradicts CDI's tests. Now thats belief! I believe in my own experience with lenses. In fact, I bought that five star tested CDI lens. I expected stellar performance. In fact, the result was so far off any five star mark that I promptly assumed that my lens was faulty. I sent it with complaints to a poor Pentax repair man who measured it at every means and shot test rolls and compared it with other lenses of the same kind. Mine was found perfect and optical quality was indistinguishable from other lenses of its kind. So much for CDI tests. I guess I should accept that my not so sharp slides was really great and that this must be hallucination on my part. I should blindly believe in CDI and disregard my own eyes. BTW I found exactly the same light fall off at the cornesr you did. Also the same less than sharp performance. Strange for a lens thats as good as they come according to CDI. Why don't you stop asking people to blindly believe. Why not look at the facts. I'm certainly convinced that you won't find any users of the A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8 or A* 300/2.8 that would rate it at "3" on a scale from 3-5. This is compared to any other lens. I'm not saying that anyone should believe ME or anyone else. Just that they should believe their own result and don't blindly follow magazine test because they rarely are accurate. However, my experience is that among Pentax users with firsthand experience from lenses, there isn't much disagreement or controversy. People mostly agree on lenses and dincrepancies is at best minor - theres a remarkable degree of consensus. And in spite of what that CDI guy implies, theres absolutely no blind Pentax following here. Both lenses and cameras get bashed regularly when they deserve it (and sometimes when they don't). The fact that they answer in a such anger only show how much they trust their tests because of their experience. As you feel hurt when someone hits your sons or daughters. I have no doubt that they perform their test in a reliable and repeatable manner and that the test itself its trustworthy - nobody accuse them of falsifying tests. But that is not what this is about. The point is how this test translate into meaningful information about real life use. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: URGENT Help needed valuating lens
Hi Jaume, While I have 4 Ricoh bodies, and some Ricoh lenses, the one you're looking at I am not familiar with, but here are my thoughts: (1) If you truly do have a non-functioning aperature send it back...there are just too many "good" K-mount lenses out there that will do the job without the aggravation of repair...if it was a "rare" lens you may want to get it repaired, but I doubt this is the case! I bought...unknowingly, a dud like yours on eBay, and while I did sucessfully get the thing disassembled , cleaned (I thought!) and reassembled, it still doesn't work! (2) Is it possible that the lens you have is a "preset" lens...which has two "aperature" rings, one which actually stops down the diaphram and the other which allows you to reopen the diaphram to focus, prior to closing it back down before tripping the shutter. If your have a "preset" lens the "preview" ring does not have any noticable "f-stop" stops, but rotates without any hesitation. The other aperature ring actually sets the aperature. If you got a "preset" your understand what I'm saying! Good Luck! Mike --- Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the situation, I won a couple of K mount lenses on a Spanish auction site. One is a M50/1.7 an the other is a XR Rikenon zoom 1/3.5 70-150 Macro (heavy lens by the way, manual focus as well). The 50 is in excellent condition and I already paid it. However, there seems to be some kind of problem with the zoom (unless it works in a different way than the M50) The apperture ring doesn't 'stop' very clearly at every stop (sorry about my English here), but, the most strange is that nothing seems to happen when doing this (it seems that the lens is alwais at the max. aperture, I can't see nothing 'closing') I didn't pay for it. The seller let me test it at home, with the camera, wich I am going to do tonight. He is asking me about $43, but I think I could renegotiate if the lens needs repair. The question, before testing it at home is: Have you ever heard about this lens? How does it performs? Is it possible that the aperture only works when the lens is in the camera? Is it worth it to pay it $43 (if the lens finally works fine) or to have it repaired? I should tell him something tomorrow... Thanks in advance, Jaume (Mark I copied you because Paul Stregevsky told me you were the PDML Ricoh expert) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
I agree with this quotation, but do not forget we are talking about reliable tests or not. My own expenrience is that Pentax 50mm f::1.7 is better than Minolta or Canon one (I used to own all 3) But I always prefer the Pentax one. For the 85mm, I tested it in order to help my friends. By my own experience, I already found it marvellous. So what do you want me to do ? I am still stay in Pentax system because it is my favorite one. And there will be no test, reliable enought to show why ! This is only my own story, my truth. Nevertheless, I also consider some Pentax items as not worthy (such as the MZ-S, the 300mm FA f/:3.5) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: mardi 10 avril 2001 21:11 Subject: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images When Popular Photography's Herb Keppler was a young man starting out in photography, he was apprenticing for a well-known German photographer--the name escapes me--who had moved to America. Keppler had just read about a new lens, that used a new design, and went on to describe its optical advantages to his mentor, who was in his fifties or sixties. After a minute or so, the mentor interrupted him and said, "I see; what you're telling me is that the lens is sharper. But does it reveal more truth?" Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: (703) 834-4648 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Regarding the Pentax nozzle this sounds pretty cool - anyone know if they've reached decent secondhand prices yet, let alone new?? Always on the lookout ;-) Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads www.macads.co.uk Make it so! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-SandFA31Ltd)
John wrote: Why don't we just wait until the MZ-S starts shipping? Then we'll *KNOW* what technique it uses for rewind memory. I think we do. You dial in the frame number and camera goes there. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #571
In a message dated 10/04/01 15:02:08 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Reasonable price for A* 1.8 135mm lens Just a quick question, I saw a private-add offering this lens, no price mentioned. Before calling, I would like to know what they usualy go for ... Jan. We can sell to Japanese dealers for 800 if mint. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S (digital)
James Adams wrote: Surely as a working pro photographer you can write off a new camera or lenses against taxes? There must be some sort of allowance! There is (or at least you get to buy it with pre-tax dollars). But that money has to come from somewhere. If you don't spend it on a new camera it contributes directly to the bottom line. For a one-man company that translates directly to money in your pocket. The pro has a couple of advantages; he uses more film per year (so he gets to the break-even point of film costs vs. digital camera earlier), and he can buy the camera with pre-tax dollars by charging it as an expense to the business (which makes the camera perhaps 25% cheaper). -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Pentax clover wrote: Please remind that my test is not reliable. (I do not own 2 Millions FrenchFrancs tools to mesure it, but each time CdI test a lens and even the TRade disagree the result, when trade's engineers come to CdI resort, to test by their own, you know the result it quite the same) You don't need 2 million worth of equipment to test a lens. You only need a camera and some care. All the equipment in the world won't help you as long as the lens doesn't perform on a camera or film. Thats all thats matters. I'm sure their tests is fair. Its just that the result say aparently little about true performance of the lens with its intended use. One other thing, the CDI tests are often conflicting with others. Are you saying CDI got it right and the others wrong? Isn't that a bit silly. I mean lots of labs own good equipment. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S (digital)
John Mustarde wrote: The problem is the high cost of being an "early adopter" of new technology. Those who adopt a new technology early in its life cycle pay through the nose for the privilege. I have resolved never again to pay huge prices just to get the newest toys first. That's why I'm upset that Pentax are coming out with a full-frame sensor in their first digital K-mount camera. That's on the cutting edge of technology, with costs to match. I want the D-1/D30 competitor, but at a comparatively affordable price (ideally $2500 or less). I'm the guy who paid $4200 for a Pentium 133 with 24 megs of RAM and a "huge" 1.2 gig hard drive. Try $4500 for a DX/2-66 with a mere 8Mb and twin 340Mb drives. Nowadays it's almost impossible to spend $2500 on a single-user system. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Cyril wrote: Some lens definition tests can reduce the subjectivity factor. One of them consists in evaluating the ratio between 2 measurements taken by the same instrument : the same instrument measures the contrast of a source image and the one of a the same image through the lens on test. This method is often called MTF (**). Yes, but this test doesn't test the optical quality of a lens but its MTF. They are not measuring optical quality but MTF. Repeat 100 times. MTF not optical quality. This kind of mistake is done repeatedly and its mostly done by people without scientific training and who believes anything expressed in numbers are scientific and hence the truth. I'm sure these numbers CAN be useful for someone who can read them but like they usually are presented its like testing how something sound by measuring frequency range. I remember kids that chose on amplifier over another because its frequency range was specified at over 100 000 Hz. I'm sure these result has some relations to final optical quality but its certainly not straightforeward. How else to explain the wildly different results of the same lens from different laboratories? Sample to sample variations are not that large. BTW theres is hardly any subjective factor. If you put ten people at a light table and ask them to evaluate the difference between two lenses based on tests shots, they either don't see any or much difference in which case differences in real life is negligible and little consequence, or they see a clear difference in which case there will be no discussion. How important this difference is is another matter. CdI guys are not attached to a make and have to produce objective comments on what they test... CDI is definitely attached to their test results and certainly not objective about them. I don't hink anyone has questioned their numbers. If CDI say that this or that lens gives damned fine numbers in the laboratory but we don't give a rats ass on how it performs in making pictures on a film, then we agree. Eg. the A* 135/1.8 is sharper than the FA* 85/1.4 at wide apertures and no person on the planet have been able to prove otherwise. The numbers these lenses scores at those apertures in CDI's laboratory is totally without interest for this fact. BTW I once had a Leica lens brochure where they used four pages explaining in panstaking details with examples why MTF test should be completely discarded when choosing a lens. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fire photography
Hi Rob, So when you say you "compromise between the fire and the subjects" I assume that you metered off both and then picked setting between them? Thanks Hi, From: "Rob Studdert" Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fire photography Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:54:07 +1000 On 10 Apr 2001, at 9:45, PAUL STENQUIST wrote: Hi Tiger, Metering for the objects near the fire would probably work in daylight. But if it's a night scene, as most fire photogaphs are, and you meter for the objects near the fire, they will be properly exposed, but the flames will be overexposed. One would encounter the same thing shooting a "ball-in- frame" sunset. If you meter for the landscape, the sun will be a burned out hole in the film. I have an example following where I metered for a compromise between the fire and the subjects that it was illuminating, the film was 400ISO print, f1.4 at about 30th hand held. The Leica body is all manual with semi-spot TTL metering. The other interesting thing about this image (it is pretty average otherwise) is the flare which is evident across the left of the frame. The lens was a new Leica-M ASPH Summilux 35m f1.4, reputedly one of the most flare resistant in the current Leica M line-up :-( http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geroc/35ASPHlux-m_flare.jpg Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Reasonable price for A* 1.8 135mm
Paul: Unrecorded PDML contributor, who had run his own tests: "A* 135/1.8: F:1.8: Not particularly sharp. Slight light fall-off at the corners. F: 2.8: Strange results. Left part of the image unsharp; right side sharp. Don't know what happened here. F:4: Sharp. F:5.6: Very sharp. F:8: Extremely detailed razor sharp image. Theres a visible increase in image quality from wide open to F:8." That was me during a shootout with the FA645 120/4 Macro. What happened there must have been some film flatness problem; its sharp at F:2.8. My theory is that as this was the second frame, and the fact that the film had been in the camera a long time, the exposed frame (F:2.8) was on the piece of film that was immediately out of the casette where it is slightly bent. If the film stay in the camera a long time then the area of the film may "remember" this bend. Paal Jensen: "The A* lens yields sharp pictures wide open." (Maybe Paal can reconcile his two positions.) Nope! I maintain that the lens is not that sharp wide open. However, its sharper than any other 1,something lens I've usedwide open. Sharper than the 43/1.9, 77/1.8, FA 85/1.4, wide open. Of course, sharp is in the eye of the beholder but I can see why some would consider this sharp. Regardless of definition and nit-picking; my 135/1.8 is visible less sharp wide-open than stopped down Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Cyril wrote: Some lens definition tests can reduce the subjectivity factor. BTW When we're at it; did they test the FA* 85/1.4 (or any other lens) at various focus distances? If not, why? Isn't the decision of testing a lens, even if its just MTF, at a fixed focusing distance a subjective decision? Hell, isn't it a subjective decision to test MTF at all? Particularly when testing a lens whose optical quality varies widely with focusing distances. Even assuming that the MTF data is of value, then its only of value for people who glue the focusing distance to CDI's test distance. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Reasonable price for A* 1.8 135mm
On 10 Apr 2001, at 18:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Stregevsky wrote: The Vivitar is said to be very sharp even wide open...a claim that even the SMC 135/1.8A* cannot make. Rob Studdert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied: This lens is sharp wide open and more importantly it is consistent edge to edge (check Photodo to confirm the WO MTF graph). 1996-2000 quotations in support of less-than-excellent sharpness wide open: Hi Paul, I can see where the basis for your comments are borne, however I suspect your initial comment is a little misleading (and my previous answer inappropriate) given that the only real comparison that can be made WO is with the Zenit 135/1.8 MC that you mentioned in your previous list. How does the Zenit stand up against the Pentax f1.8 WO? I expect that comparing the f1.8 at the maximum aperture of the lenses to which it was being compared would lead you to different conclusions. Back to the issue at hand "Reasonable price for A* 1.8 135mm" sheer luck combined with a seller with no idea of the current market values will be the most likely way that one of these lenses can be obtained at a reasonable price. BTW my personal tests (real world shots on K25) between the Pentax SMCPA*138f1.8 vs the CZ 138f2.8 and CZ 135f2 lenses proved the Pentax to be the clear winner even against the CZ135f2.8 WO. I had to use a 40x microscope to spot the differences however. Both the CZ lenses are touted to be no slouches performance wise WO, but I have since sold both. I checked my lenses and your information regarding minimum focus is correct, I have wished I that I had 4 feet min foc instead of 5 feet more than once :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fire photography
Hey Folks, Thanks for the comments on fire photography. Let me clarify my questionfire is a rapidly moving, flickering subject and, like a waterfall, I expect the appearance of it in a photograph depends heavily on the exposure used. I was wondering if there was some canonical rule, like "slower than 1/125th, and fire looks like a smear but faster than 1/500 and it looks like something funky". The fires that I'll be on will be lit during the daylight hours. I guess I'll just shoot and see what happens! Cheers Barry - Dr. Barry Meyers-Rice Associate Scientist Wildland Invasive Species Program The Nature Conservancy 530-754-8891, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fire photography
On 11 Apr 2001, at 9:22, Paul Jones wrote: Hi Rob, So when you say you "compromise between the fire and the subjects" I assume that you metered off both and then picked setting between them? Hi Paul, Yep, the setting that I used would have put the main subjects illuminated by the fire about a stop and a half under, but I can't recall exactly. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S (digital)
John, Agreed. If they were planning to release a model on the level of the D30/D1 with similar price range, I would definitely consider it. Would I pay 4-6 times the cost of my pocket digital camera (Coolpix 880) to be able to use my set of lenses? Definitely yes! 8-10x? I would have to hesitate at that one... Cheers. Jeff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (pentax-discuss-digest) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:38:35 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #573 That's why I'm upset that Pentax are coming out with a full-frame sensor in their first digital K-mount camera. That's on the cutting edge of technology, with costs to match. I want the D-1/D30 competitor, but at a comparatively affordable price (ideally $2500 or less). - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Fairy pics
Firstly, thanks Doug for the link and for taking the time to make such a detailed response to my questions. There are some cute ideas on that web page, however, I differ slightly with my view of how to shoot kids than these guys do, as I am planning to only shoot children with available light and predominantly in natural rather than studio type settings (at least that's the plan for now, we'll see how long it lasts for!). I am really aiming for candid expressions and poses here. You said: "1.) If your friend with the two daughters showed the shots off at school and the other mums want to hire you to do the same for =their= kids, that means they want you to DO THE SAME FOR THEIR KIDS. They want you to do the same poses, the same expressions, the =same=. Mums often pay a lot of lip service to having "different" portraits done of their kids, but most of them actually fear anything that will make the kids appear different." I have actually thought about this myself and adopted that very same view. I am thinking that all of these women will want me to shoot all of their kids so that the end results are very similar to what the were originally shown. I can only hope that this won't happen and that I can truly cater each shoot specifically to the personality of each child. Doug also said: "2.) When you hung those wings on the kids, you already jumped over the cheesy line, so it's too late for that particular dilemma." I disagree with this one Doug. The family of the little "fairy" girl is almost bordering on being "hippy". ie they are extremely New Age (hence her Dad's veggie patch that she was sitting in etc). They are "for" all things natural and to do with nature. It is for this reason that we chose to dress her as a "flower fairy" - to try and keep within their ideas and beliefs. She is also a very inquisitive, curious and very "cheeky" little girl and we thought that this would be a great way to show off those attributes. It wasn't simply a case of "hanging a pair of wings on her" to make her look cute. For example, if I were to photograph a little girl of the same age whose parents were much more traditional and straight-laced in their beliefs, I would perhaps have her sitting in her room playing quietly with some toys or reading a book etc. I fully intend to cater each shoot specifically to the child and his/her family's personalities and beliefs, so to avoid the "cheese" factor. Oh, and I REFUSE to sit any kids in picnic baskets or surround them with teddy bears - uuugh! how unnatural is that?!? "3.) There's Business, and there's Art. Rarely do they wind up in the same county, much less on the same shoot. Look at it this way: When you did your friend's little girls, it was probably as a sort of practice, like, "Hey, I need to do some fairy photos, mind if I borrow the girls?" In that situation, the girls are models, there to prop up your Photographs. This is your Art. Now, when the other mums want you to shoot their kids, those kids go from being models, or props, to being Subjects. Notice the shift. Now the photo has to be built to support the subject. This is Business." I do of course understand this, and this my exact view. I do not however, wish to compromise my creative input and would never go so far as to shooting something that I didn't like just to please a "client" or in this case, the kids' parents. Thus, my approach to use a context for each kid that will bring out their true personality and nature and beliefs ie. "support the subject" (to please the parents) while at the same time injecting my own interpretation of how to do this ie. "prop up my photographs" (eg. in this case, putting on the fairy wings.). I must say though, that I didn't at any time say to this lady "I need to do some fairy pics do you mind if I borrow your girls". I instead thought "who do I know that has a little girl who has the personality to be a "flower fairy", and who's parents would view this in a personal context, and who would like some nice shots of their girls?" BTW, the parents also paid for all film, processing and my petrol money (they live over 2 hours away), in exchange for me taking those shots. I viewed in this instance, my payment as being able to keep the negs, which I see as my major learning tool in all of this. "4.) Charge real money. Decide what your prices are and stick with them. If you give your work away, you'll get a rep as a "cheap" photog, and nobody will want to pay you a fair price later." I have decided at this stage to charge au$200 per session (extra for petrol if there is travel involved). This includes 3 rolls of film (their choice of colour, bw or a combination), "double" prints of all shots taken in 6 x 8s, and also all styling/costuming. I believe this to be fair and just at this stage in the game. It allows the parents to receive up to 80 different shots, with two copies of each at a usable size, with a variety of moods, and a good mix of bw and
Re: Fire photography
I have taken a few pictures with fire in them but was not recording exposures. However, as you alluded to, I'd in general follow the same rule of thumb I do with a waterfall. You don't start seeing too much blur until you get around 1/8 sec. I'd expect, I could be wrong, that 1/60 and above would pretty much freeze the flames. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Barry Meyers-Rice" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 5:43 PM Subject: Re: Fire photography Hey Folks, Thanks for the comments on fire photography. Let me clarify my questionfire is a rapidly moving, flickering subject and, like a waterfall, I expect the appearance of it in a photograph depends heavily on the exposure used. I was wondering if there was some canonical rule, like "slower than 1/125th, and fire looks like a smear but faster than 1/500 and it looks like something funky". The fires that I'll be on will be lit during the daylight hours. I guess I'll just shoot and see what happens! Cheers Barry - Dr. Barry Meyers-Rice Associate Scientist Wildland Invasive Species Program The Nature Conservancy 530-754-8891, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
LX Acc Q
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1229172932 I've never seen one part of this before. It's a finder with a "K" mount on it. Is this to allow using a lens like a "macro" for precise focusing? Interesting... Collin *** Data Processing Consultation, Inc. Providing Broad-Spectrum Business Solutions and Assistance http://www.iol21.com/dpconsult [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Acc Q
On 10 Apr 2001, at 19:54, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1229172932 I've never seen one part of this before. It's a finder with a "K" mount on it. Is this to allow using a lens like a "macro" for precise focusing? Interesting... Hi Collin, It's a little bayonet mount but not quite K :-) That is the system finder base, into it clips; the high eye relief action eyepiece FC-1 (which swivels through 90 degrees also), the magni-eyepiece FD-1 (which provides a magnified view at 45 degrees to the film plane which is latterally correct (unlike the FE-1 magni-finder) and the standard eyepiece FD-2. More info can be found on Bozs and my LX pages. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fairy pics
Fairy wrote: My first love is fashion, however, lack of resources and also lack of a qualified teacher is very impeding where fashion is concerned, so I may have to just resign myself to viewing all of the pretty models in the pretty dresses in the expensive magazines... fairy. Ya got a tripod and a remote shutter release? :-) Tom - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fairy pics
Tanya Russell Mayer wrote: I have decided at this stage to charge au$200 per session . . . I do not put a "limit" on my shooting time, . . . In doing it this way, my costs are about au$20 for film, au$90 for processing. I will make about au$100 per shoot . . . Sounds pretty darn cheap to me! By the time you work out an hourly rate (accounting for *all* the time you are there, waiting for kids to be ready), and adding processing, preparation and book-keeping time, you're probably working at below minimum wage, and with no allowance towards the cost of your equipment. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Acc Q
Collin, I'm not quite an expert on these things yet, but that looks alot like the FB-1 finder . . . I think. It's supposed to have a bayonet mount locking system for it's 3 (or 4) finders. Illinois Bill Collin Brendemuehl wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1229172932 I've never seen one part of this before. It's a finder with a "K" mount on it. Is this to allow using a lens like a "macro" for precise focusing? Interesting... Collin *** Data Processing Consultation, Inc. Providing Broad-Spectrum Business Solutions and Assistance http://www.iol21.com/dpconsult [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fairy pics
- Original Message - From: "Tanya Russell Mayer Subject: Fairy pics description of photographers hell deleted I will make about au$100 per shoot I think you are selling yourself WAY to cheaply. You should be charging that much per hour, not per shoot. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Subject: Re: Reasonable price for A* 1.8 135mm
Paul Stregevsky wrote: "Close focusing distances for various K-mount 135s: Vivitar 135/2.8 CF: 1.7 feet (CF = Close Focus) Pentax 135/2.8F,FA: 2.3 feet Vivitar 135/2.3: 3 feet Pentax 135/2.8A: 3.9 feet Pentax 135/1.8A*:4 feet Pentax 135/2.5K: 5 feet Pentax 135/3.5M: 5 feet Tamron 135/2.5 PK[a}:??? (Tanya? Anyone?) Vivitar 135/2.5 PK: 5 feet Zenit 135/1.8 MC Fodis-1K 5.2 feet" My Tamron 135/2.5 PKA Close Focus "officially" focuses at approx. 4 feet or 1.2m, but I just got it down to about 1.0 m. Geez, I'd love that Vivitar though, focuses down to 1.7 feet! Tanya. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film rewind with memory
- Original Message - From: "Rob Brigham" Subject: RE: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-Sand FA31Ltd) -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 April 2001 15:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Film rewind with memory It would be easier for them to use the same sype of technology as is used in APS, with a magnetic encoding strip on the film itself. BTW, the APS system is extremely problematic. Considering the amount of RD that went into it, I am surprised it is as bad as it is. William Robb Not sure how it would be easier to change the film manufacture process and possibly film size than it would be to stick a magnetic label on the film canister? They are already doing it with APS, so the manufacturing technology is in place. I think the hard part would be coming up with an ISO standard of where the strip would be placed, etc. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Is this where it stands: "CDI measures accurately, but the value of what's measured doesn't support the conclusions they draw?' Anyone know the specifics of what CDI tests for? Dan Scott (out of the loop) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-SandFA31Ltd)
- Original Message - From: "K.Takeshita" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 10, 2001 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-SandFA31Ltd) on 4/10/01 10:29 AM, William Robb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the APS system is extremely problematic. Considering the amount of RD that went into it, I am surprised it is as bad as it is. Hi Bill, It seems you do have bad experiences and observations on the APS system. snip Could you be kind enough to elaborate a bit more about your experience? Most of the bad stuff is caused by the cassette itself. Sometimes there are obvious problems with the camera, but mostly, the cassette. You are correct that the APS magazine is a (relatively speaking) complicated little device. There is one more moving part on the cartridge (the door) than 35mm, and a couple of data exchange devices attached to the spool. You also surmise correctly that they are made as cheaply as possible. We buy factory tested APS replacement cartridges from Kodak for less than 50 cents each. I am sure Kodak makes pretty good money on them too. Cheap and quality unfortunately don't go together. So, here are the common APS problems: Film thrust jams: This happens when we are exchanging the film from the user cartridge to the temporary processing cartridge. What happens is that the cassette, for whatever reason, jams up and doesn't open the door properly. The film doesn't come out, and usually suffers minor damage at the leader end, which is not a big deal, as the leader is quite long. Cartridge release failure: At the end of the film cartridge exchange, the film must release from the cassette. Sometimes it decides not to, so must be manually removed. Film return error: Sometimes, no matter what we do, the cassette just refuses to reload the processed film. We then have to resort to the replacement cartridge. Cartridge/printer interface problems: Sometimes the cartridge will not work in the printer, so the film has to be put into a replacement cartridge. IX data exchange failure: This one is the most common. What happens is that the magnetic data is scrambled or otherwise incorrectly encoded. This causes us PQI problems, and also formatting problems, as we don't know which format the frame was shot in. Note this is more a camera/printer problem, but is still a problem with the format. Small negative syndrome: People insist on shooting 400 speed film and specifying panoramics from that little 18x27mm negative. What really surprises me is the number of mechanical failures we have. The format should have been designed with minilabs in mind, as they were certainly the reality by the time the format was in the design phase. What they have done is created a technology that is almost designed to cause problems (at least that is my opinion) at all stages of the process. I suspect that it is the cheap cameras that create most of the problems all the way through the process, and that this likely is why you haven't had any difficulties. I expect you bought into a quality product when you purchased your APS camera. My reality, however, is the customer who paid $49.99 for their camera. Thanks William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:25:44 +0200, you wrote: Heres a translation. Well that runs me on bean, indeed, too! They have decided that any criticism of their criticism is unfounded, unwarranted, without merit, and unthinkably wrong. Nay, even a besmirching of their honor! Those who hold fast to a marque, especially a lowly minority like Pentax, do not appreciate the perfection of CDl, whose results cannot and must not ever be mistaken because, they have spoken it to be perfect, so perfect it must be. Let us end this criticism of the extremely fair gallic cousins, who as the world must know, are held in the highest esteem by the most important people in the world, that is, themselves. -- Happy Trails, Texdance http://members.fortunecity.com/texdance http://members1.clubphoto.com/john8202 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Subject: RE: Vivitar Series 1 28mm/f2
- Original Message - From: "Tanya Russell Mayer" Subject: Subject: RE: Vivitar Series 1 28mm/f2 I am very glad that I "stumbled" across this little "community" and expect to be around for some time to come :-) We can offer you a bit more entertainement value as well. By chance, this month's PUG is an open gallery, and you have 10 days to submit an image. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
That's ok. We don't hold a grudge. The next time the "greatest army in Europe" is quickly overrun by some power hungry wannabe dictator, The Yanks, Brits, Canucks, Aussies, Ruskies as well as the underground of many other noble countries will beat the invaders back for them, make the world safe (for a little while) again, and then we'll leave, forgive all their war debts and help with reparations. We did it twice before, got treated the same way, we'll still do it again, even though we know the treatment won't change. We will do this because we are not French. Regards, Bob... Give blood. Play hockey. - Original Message - From: "Paris, Leonard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 9:21 AM Subject: RE: Direct from Chasseur d'Images In actuality, anybody in the world that criticizes the French for anything, is, by French definition, an American. Len --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images Doug wrote: A Scandinavian complained that a French magazine rated some Pentax lenses too high and others too low, so in response a French reader of said French magazine wrote to someone at the magazine. In response, someone at the magazine said that Americans, whose opinions don't count anyway, should read another magazine. This is fun. Doug, you should ask for a job in "Reader's Digest" :-) Saludos Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fairy pics
John Francis wrote: Tanya wrote: I have decided at this stage to charge au$200 per session . . . I do not put a "limit" on my shooting time, . . . In doing it this way, my costs are about au$20 for film, au$90 for processing. I will make about au$100 per shoot . . . Sounds pretty darn cheap to me! By the time you work out an hourly rate (accounting for *all* the time you are there, waiting for kids to be ready), and adding processing, preparation and book-keeping time, you're probably working at below minimum wage, and with no allowance towards the cost of your equipment. I had just read Tanya's original post and was about to say the same. This sounds almost a give-away. Most destructive to gainful employment is the double 6x8 prints. Not only are they surely more expensive than 4x6 *PROOFS!* - they are most likely sizable enough that enlargment orders will be the exception, rather than the rule. In essence, you are giving them full sets of final prints at cost. Have double 4x6's and keep one set as reference for re-orders and enlargments! There will likely be but a handful which *the client* particularly cares for, so why spend all that money for big prints of all frames? I only do a little of this sort of "personal" photograhy as there are so many low-ball hacks here that all *most* "clients" consider is their cost. When I do do this kind of thing, it is usually more for friends, than "Joe Public". My "rule of thumb" is US$50 for a roll of 24 and $75 for 36 - plus film process costs. I am there to do the *photograhy* using whatever the proper lense/technique/film etc may be, and deal with the processor. It is up to them to know what they basicly want and be prepared to be photographed without undue waste of time. Generally the desired photo can be achieved in one roll and rather quickly. If they do want enough things done that time involvement overtakes profit - I discuss additional money or other benefits for that degree of time involvement. as example: a neighbor lady wanted some shots of her Rottweilers a few months ago. I was safely outside the enclosure with my tripod and 85,105, 135 200mm lenses and the SuperProgram/Winder. Thirty minutes later, I was on the way to the processor w/ a check for $50. I returned the next day with a set of 4x6's (I put them into one of those free WalMart photobooks which I always scoop up from the 2nd hand stores new for cheap ;^) and collected the costs. She was very pleased with the shots. A few were blurred from subject motion, the majority were quite respectable and four were very good all around. Even so - not really "scale wages", at that. I do have a soft spot for people who seek me out and often "overdo it" for what I end up with financially, though. I *am guilty* of using up all my profit margin shooting by slides of beautiful Gypsy Dancing Girls when I was covering our local Renaissance (?) Faire last spring and other non- business-like practices like low-cost favors to certain artsy-type and dancer friends on low budgets. !8^D Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
APS stuff..WAS: Re: Film rewind with memory
- Original Message - From: "K.Takeshita" Subject: Re: Film rewind with memory on 4/10/01 11:09 AM, K.Takeshita at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/10/01 10:29 AM, William Robb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the APS system is extremely problematic. Considering the amount of RD that went into it, I am surprised it is as bad as it is. I never had any problem with the APS I currently have, not a single one, but I know it is rather an exception. Oops, I have to be precise. I never had a problem asociated with the film cassette itself but did have a few occasions wherein the processor returned washed out prints or yellow cast for the flash photos. In the first ASA800 film processing, they returned a bit bluish cast photos. These were eventually corrected, but this does indicate that the processor may have some difficulty in processing the APS films for whatever reason. This particular processor is a pro lab (Fuji) and they do a superb job on all my 35mm and MedF films, although I know that they tend to dismiss the APS format (I am only using Fuji Nexia APS film for no particular reason. I hear good things about the Kodak Max 400 APS film which I might try). If they don't do a lot of APS film, and I doubt if a pro lab gets a lot of it, they won't have good colour channels for it. However, they should still not be sending out junk prints, especially a pro lab. The Kodak APS film technology is excellent, as good as Fuji's. I suspect that Fuji has somewhat finer grain, though truthfully, this is opinion based on their strengths in 35mm film technology. I prefer Kodak's colour. The 200 is especially nice. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Acc Q
Hi Bill, Collin, That`s it alright, the FB1 System Finder. That along with the FC-1 is the best thing since sliced bread! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Bill Kane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: Re: LX Acc Q Collin, I'm not quite an expert on these things yet, but that looks alot like the FB-1 finder . . . I think. It's supposed to have a bayonet mount locking system for it's 3 (or 4) finders. Illinois Bill Collin Brendemuehl wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1229172932 I've never seen one part of this before. It's a finder with a "K" mount on it. Is this to allow using a lens like a "macro" for precise focusing? Interesting... Collin *** Data Processing Consultation, Inc. Providing Broad-Spectrum Business Solutions and Assistance http://www.iol21.com/dpconsult [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Curing Lens Envy (a URL)
I think my wife must be behind this. Anyway, why would I want to take pictures that look just like all the other pictures that are winning contests. Just think what all those winners could do with the lenses I envy. We'll have to wait to find out because I was envying the FA 20/2.8 but now thanks to Albano's survey I think I have to envy the FA* 24/2. Good thing I haven't quit envying the FA 80-200/2.8. Changing "envys" too often makes the wife think I'm . . . photoficle. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 4:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Curing Lens Envy (a URL) This site didn't help me, but it might help you: http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/bronlensenvy.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . application/ms-tnef
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:21:38 -0500, you wrote: In actuality, anybody in the world that criticizes the French for anything, is, by French definition, an American. America - a country which the French helped create, many long years ago, and which became a bunch of obnoxious ingrates who had the gall (gaul?) to produce better wine. So pour me another splash of LinCourt Vineyards Santa Barbara County 1996 Cabernet while you're up, please, and slap another roll in the LX. This thread could go on for some time. -- Happy Trails, Texdance http://members.fortunecity.com/texdance http://members1.clubphoto.com/john8202 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Acc Q
Collin, That's not a 'K' mount. That an F1-B finder base. It goes with the F1-C viewfinder to make the action fined. See Boz's site. There are several more ends that can be mounted on the NOT 'K' mount end. Regards, Bob S. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1229172932 I've never seen one part of this before. It's a finder with a "K" mount on it. Is this to allow using a lens like a "macro" for precise focusing? Interesting... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Nkon Hood for Pentax FA28-70/4
I chimed in at the time... The one I bought for mine is an HN-2 for a Nikon 28mm lens and one of their 28-something zooms. It seems to help and does not viginette, but I haven't used Shel's filter stack test. No, it does not allow the use of the lens cap, as it has no threads on the outer edge. I think Shel said he had a better solution. Shel? l8r, Douglas E Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/~genius91/ - Original Message - From: Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 10:32 AM Subject: Nkon Hood for Pentax FA28-70/4 : Hi, : : A while back there was discussion on Nikon lenses hoods for the Pentax : FA28-70/4. Could someone let me know the part number? as i neglected at the : time to write it down. : : I assume the standard lense cap still fits with the hood? : : Thanks, : Paul JOnes : - : This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, : go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to : visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . : : - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Hey Shel, how about a hood application for the SMC F 70-210?
Hey Shel, Have you a hood on your list that could work with the SMC F 70-210? Just picked one up from KEH last week. Haven't found a hood yet, and I would like to get one that doesn't make it look like a plunger ala the 80-320 ;)) l8r, Douglas E Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/~genius91/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Hey Shel, how about a hood application for the SMC F 70-210?
Hey Doug ... What is the filter thread diameter of the lens? Douglas E Harmon wrote: Hey Shel, Have you a hood on your list that could work with the SMC F 70-210? Just picked one up from KEH last week. Haven't found a hood yet, and I would like to get one that doesn't make it look like a plunger ala the 80-320 ;)) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: APS stuff, WAS:Film rewind with memory
on 4/10/01 9:24 PM, William Robb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the APS system is extremely problematic. Considering the amount of RD that went into it, I am surprised it is as bad as it is. Hi Bill, It seems you do have bad experiences and observations on the APS system. snip Could you be kind enough to elaborate a bit more about your experience? Most of the bad stuff is caused by the cassette itself. Bill's excellent description snipped for short My reality, however, is the customer who paid $49.99 for their camera. Thanks William Robb Thank you, Bill, It really gave me a good peep into what's really going on in a lab which we do not normally see. Good thing I asked the question :-) I once disassembled an APS cassette out of curiosity and was amazed by ingenuity went into the design of this stuff. But I was also surprised to see how flimsy this thing is with tiny parts, considering more number of loading and reloading a cassette might possibly go through, comparing with a 35mm magazine. With this knowledge, I could understand why you said it's extremely problematic. Once something happens, it is not as straightforward as the 35mm film. I have not experienced any cassette related problems so far, and it could be because all my APS cameras (except the Elph Jr.) are better grade SLRs. But my worst nightmare is the film jam inside the camera, particularly during a vacation etc. I heard quite a lot of these cases but sometimes it appears to happen in certain camera/film combination, or a bad design in dealing with the battery depletion etc. In my case, the frequency of the APS usage is not that heavy and perhaps that's why I have not experienced anything bad (yet :-) However, with the accumulation of experiences by both users and processors, I really hope that the industry will come up with the 35mm APS system (with somewhat more processor friendly design :-). By that time, the digital system may be dominating but a larger APS system could offer more than what the current 24mm sys can. The concept itself is something to be admired, in my opinion. Thanks again, Ken - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
