re: The North Carolina Run Starts This Friday!
Mitch Matthews wrote: Now I don't have a problem deciding what to get Paul Ameritwang for his birthday (forget Jeznowka). I think Mitch is trying to get me drunk... (sorry bud, but I hate to break the news to ya, but ya already missed my birthday) Capricorn's rule! (i truly don't know what that means, since i know zilch on the zodialogical signs, but Curry told me it was a great pick up line in bars... g) Paul
Re: An Introduction...
Mike, from Rome, NY, wrote: I was wondering if anyone here enjoys any stuff by 16 Horsepower, The Grifters or Railroad Jerk--not necessarily ND-style stuff. Welcome Mike... you will find this list to be very diverse in their interests... don't be shy...however if you feel compelled to lurk, there is a 3-4 day period in June when the lurkers take over the list, spearheaded by a trusty lurker named AL... personally, I can't stand any of the music they talk about, however, I'm just really lonely, and find weeding through 100 or so emails a day the thing I need to keep my razors in the medicine closet... g I did, however, see Railroad Jerk once...they were attending the same Pavement show I was at the Roseland in NYCof course, they are on my latest ebay purchase... (see below) Indie-twang-punk wannabe, Paul np: V/A - What's Up Matador?
3 Questions
Late reading a review on Jenny Simpson (Country Magazine) - which got me wondering. Since she was dropped from Decca before her record was released, will she have to buy back the cd's produced and left undistributed? I was thinking that if so, this could amount to hundreds of thousands if not more dollars. What a terrifying experience for someone to go through... Is there a book/list referencing all of the recordings put out by a record company during a given period? I'm trying to find a specific artist who was on the Warner Bros. label during the 70's and I am at the end of my rope. Thirdly, to David Cantwell who took me to task for the Stax talk. Did you read my response to your query (how does Motown relate to Stax) ? I have not seen a post, so just wondering if you had a response to my question (or not). Tera
Hey Hogwallers...
Pardon my posting this to the list, but I've seen references to the Hogwaller Ramblers and one of the members herein, but I've not saved the address, so it goes.. Please send a copy of the Hogwaller Ramblers CD to 9x for review (9x being Plan 9's magazine, you know, the store in Charlottesville Richmond Harrisonburg who's selling your CDs?). Here's the address: 9x 2614 W. Cary St. Richmond, VA 23220 Thanks! -Paula np: DEL!
Re: Alejandro Escovedo/Buddy Miller/Railroad Jerk
OK, I realize I should be publicly flogged for being completely ignorant of ND's "Man o' the Decade," but I saw an AE disc sitting patiently in the used section of a local record store and wondered about it. It was called "13 Songs" or something like that--the one with the "Theme Song." Anyway, I also saw a Buddy Miller disc that had the word "lies" in the title. Well, anyway, you get the picture. These are a couple dudes whose names tend to get dropped every day or three, so all you fans let me know what's up. _Thirteen Songs_ is a pretty swell record, though not exactly cheerful. It's fairly hard to describe Alejandro in a convenient sound bite, but he's got elements of punk (he was a member of seminal SF punk band the Nuns), singer/songwriter, honky tonk, and alt-country in his sound, along with lots of other influences. Buddy Miller is much more of a straight country/country-rock artist, in the Steve Earle vein, and everything he does is good. IMHO, of course. g And for the fella who asked about Railroad Jerk, I think "One Track Mind" may be one of the sleeper records of the decade. If you like the JSBX--but grow tired of the schtick--and you like Beck's wacky electro-folk-hipster-hop-damnation, check it out. Clever without being too cheeky, methinks. I thought Third Rail was a step backward, but good enough to buy used. Are they even around anymore? I haven't heard from them in awhile. Railroad Jerk just played in NYC a couple of weekends ago. I missed them on the same night that I missed the Old 97s. I haven't heard rumors of any new records in the works, but what do I know? I'd like to hear what they do next, though; they're an underrated bunch, and Lance's comparisons to Jon Spencer and Beck are apt ones. --Amy
Re: Stuff (Bare Jr.)
In a message dated 2/9/99 10:00:05 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *Boo-Tay* got an F- in the latest Atlanta *InSite* entertainment rag. AN F-!! Quote: "Jesus Christ, there should be a law against music like this!" That makes me actually want to hear it. you will hate it Jon. Trust me on this. I thought you were gonna call me, you BUM!!! I could be dead by now! Slim
Re: Mando-Earle
I saw Earle play at the Hootenanny in SoCal during the summer of '97, and sho nuff, he played "Copperhead Road" on mandolin and through the Marshalls.
Re: Stuff (Bare Jr.)
*Boo-Tay* got an F- in the latest Atlanta *InSite* entertainment rag. AN F-!! Quote: "Jesus Christ, there should be a law against music like this!" That makes me actually want to hear it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ACK!!! I agree with Matt cook! Bare Jr. sound terrible to me. Slim
Re: Alejandro Escovedo/Buddy Miller/Railroad Jerk
OK, I realize I should be publicly flogged for being completely ignorant of ND's "Man o' the Decade," but I saw an AE disc sitting patiently in the used section of a local record store and wondered about it. It was called "13 Songs" or something like that--the one with the "Theme Song." Anyway, I also saw a Buddy Miller disc that had the word "lies" in the title. Well, anyway, you get the picture. These are a couple dudes whose names tend to get dropped every day or three, so all you fans let me know what's up. And for the fella who asked about Railroad Jerk, I think "One Track Mind" may be one of the sleeper records of the decade. If you like the JSBX--but grow tired of the schtick--and you like Beck's wacky electro-folk-hipster-hop-damnation, check it out. Clever without being too cheeky, methinks. I thought Third Rail was a step backward, but good enough to buy used. Are they even around anymore? I haven't heard from them in awhile. Gots to go. Lance . . .
1R1R in ND
Okay, nobody's said anything about this, and I feel the need coming on.. I thought the "review" of One Riot One Ranger's "Side Tracks" in the latest No Depression was unreasonably dismissive, especially in that parting shot... (I could use stronger language--but I'm known to like these guys from the list and otherwise! So I'll contain myself.) Okay, the review notes that these guys can sing... and even wrote a good song or two, but I don't think that the damned with faint praise tone, that " well OK, they are pleasant, aren't they? " tone is fair to a disc that pulls off some difficult stuff in a more than listenable way--and played even better. (I might even agree that it's still proving tough on the new disc to get the essence of this act we've seen live and kickin' on a recording--but that's true also, I'd say, of Riders in the Sky, for instance--and a whole lot of alt.country and roots rock.) That crack "Ralph Stanley or the Bad Livers have nothing to fear from One Riot One Ranger"..is mainly beside the point even if (and I wouldn't bet on it) it intends to mean "traditional and punked bluegrass acts" ...since I doubt very much that's the sweepstakes 1R1R entered...if any. (or that the Bad Livers play bluegrass punked or otherwise.) But mostly, the crack is simply a bit of wiseass reviewer-ese and to heck with it. Barry M.
Re: Darby Tarlton
This has pretty much become my favorite country act of that period, with OK probably still the exception of Jimmie Rodgers.. Don's right that you need those bluesier cuts on the comps he mentions to get a good picture; I'd only add that their famous "Lonesome in the Pines" is on the County disc too--and it's about the earliest known recording of In the Pines..maybe even the eraliest. (I don't mean to set that thread up again!) I'm still digesting Mr. Gardner's [passing comment that they're " a little too bluesy for me to get totally obsessive" That be what makes horse races! I guess it's this early, convincing, tasty country and blues merge, well played and sung and utterly outside of the Frank Hutchinson "stiff" style of singing that precisely GETS me about these guys.(Tho I don't have that Bear box...yet!). Barry M.
Re: WOW! (from Alex)
Hey there, Shane... Ack! Dolly Parton and Don Williams are the subject of derision in the United Kingdom?! Um, in case you haven't noticed, Dolly and Don are the subject of derision in the United _States_. When I was working outside Manchester in 91 and 92 I did notice, both in print, on TV and in real life groups of working to middle class folks who got way into US country music as well a the whole cowboy and rodeo thing. From what I've been reading on this list for the past few years it sounds like this was no passing fad. I always thought it was kind of an odd hobby to have in the UK - more odd due to the cowboy side than the music side. Very few doggies in Cheshire. Later... CK ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Gwil Owen
Gwil Owen has three tape cassettes available -- I bought all 3 from him a while back for $8. each. Write to him at Rambler Records, P.O. Box 90685, Nashville, TN 37209. He also has a few 45's on the Diesel Only label. He'll let you know what he has the prices. Barry
Re: It hasn't died after all (long)
Soon, I'll write it tonight after I get a few down. --Matt Cook Don Yates wrote: On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Matt Cook wrote: You can add The Gourds' GHOST OF HALLELUJAH to this date (March 9). So where's the promised MattReview of the album?--don
An Introduction...
Hi All! Just stumbled across your list and signed on today. I've been into UT/Wilco/SV for a few years now. Got into them a bit hesitantly after growing up lisiening to country music amongst my family. Gotta say "Anodyne" would be one of my desert island discs if pressed into the issue. I happened to find the tape in the $1.99 bin at Camelot about 3 years ago. Listened to it once and put it aside. Just pulled it out again recently and haven't stopped listening!! Had to update it on CD. I was wondering if anyone here enjoys any stuff by 16 Horsepower, The Grifters or Railroad Jerk--not necessarily ND-style stuff. Just curious. Oh... and... Hi, I'm Mike, from Rome, NY Thanks for reading. Mike Check out my tapelist: www.gadiel.com/tapelists/Kohls.html
Re: It hasn't died after all (long)
On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Matt Cook wrote: You can add The Gourds' GHOST OF HALLELUJAH to this date (March 9). So where's the promised MattReview of the album?--don
Re: WOW! (from Alex)
On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Louise Kyme wrote: There are a lot of Dolly and Don fans over here in country circles, but you just wouldn't believe the mickey taking the average UK punter gives towards anyone who says they like country music. It is one big joke. Again, this really isn't much different than the way it is in the States, and often underneath the scorn and ridicule thrown its way lies a pretty ugly class bias.--don
Re: The North Carolina Run Starts This Friday!
::yawn:: did someone say something, that I should not have missed? sorry, Paul
Gay Country (Was: Re: K.D. Lang)
Howdy, Here's an interesting exercise... input the words "Gay" and "country music" in a web search engine. The results will take you on a fairly diverse trip. Almost none of it useful, but here's some stuff worth at least a reasonable P2 mention: Gay/Lesbian American Music Awards (GLAMA) www.glama.com Nominations are being accepted for the third annual awards show to be held in 1999. Past winners have included (listing the country/folk-associated artists): k.d. lang-- Medal of Achievement-- 1997 Ferron -- Out Music Award -- 1996 Indigo Girls -- Duo/Group of the Year -- 1998 Artists Doug Williams and the Outband -- http://www.escape.com/~bpsl/ Ferron -- http://ferronweb.com/ Well Oiled Sisters -- http://drum.gduncan.com/wos/hello.htm Other Sites Gay Lesbian Themes in Popular Music -- http://www2.kenyon.edu/people/scotts/projects/wmns21/country.htm Gay-MART (an online shopping site aimed at the homosexual market) offers a limited selection of gay-oriented country music at http://www.gaymart.com/shopmusc/1catgory/c0510109.html I filtered out most references to Garth Brooks (usually referring to "We Shall Be Free") and k.d. lang (for obvious reasons), as well as references to former CMA President Connie Gay. Also, I chose not to include references to Dolly Parton and Reba McIntyre impersonators. So there you go. Take care, Shane Rhyne Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED] NP: Hogwaller Ramblers
Clip: GLAMA seeks nominations for music awards
GLAMA CALL for NOMINATIONS 3rd Annual Gay/Lesbian American Music Awards Announce New Categories New York: Submissions for nomination consideration for the 3rd Annual Gay/Lesbian American Music Awards are now being accepted. The first only awards program to honor the work of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender recording artists will take place in New York in Spring 1999. All entries must have had their commercial release between 1/1/98 and 12/31/98 and feature a self-identified lesbian, gay male, bisexual or transgender performer. "There are many exciting additions and changes for this next round of awards including many new categories," said co-executive producer Tom McCormack. "When we began we weren't sure how wide of a net to cast genre-wise so we kept it fairly generic, but we were so impressed by the number of submissions last year, we decided to open things up a bit." Categories to be honored include Acoustic/Folk, Cabaret, Cast Recording, Choral, Classical, Comedy, Dance Music, Jazz, Out Recording, Pop, Pop Instrumental, Rock/Alternative, Contemporary Classical Composer, Original Out Song, Video of the Year, Album of the Year, Debut. In addition awards will be presented to Female Artist, Male Artist, and Band/Duo/Group. GLAMA's honorary awards - the Outmusic Award and the Michael Callen Medal of Achievement -- will be announced later this year. Past years' recipients include Boy George, k.d. lang, RuPaul, Ferron, Tom Robinson and Cris Williamson. "We've also changed the judging process a bit," said Michael Mitchell, co-Executive Producer. "In addition to having judges who are music industry personnel, music press, artists, or radio and retail personnel, for the first time, voting privileges for the final nominees will be extended to all those artists submitting for consideration as well as to GLAMA members." Meanwhile, plans are already underway for the 3rd Annual Gay/Lesbian American Music Awards in NYC in Spring 1999 - past shows have featured artists including Pansy Division, Fred Hersch, disappear fear, The Murmurs, Toshi Reagon, Anthony Rapp, Suzanne Westenhoefer and many more. To obtain an official submission form, please contact GLAMA at 212-592-4455 or by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only artists, their record/production company or representative may submit a recording for nomination. Qualified members of the music industry and media who are interested in participating as judges may contact GLAMA for details. GLAMA is generously supported by The Village Voice, NYC Net, Chivas Regal, American Airlines and GLO-radio.
Re: It hasn't died after all (long)
You can add The Gourds' GHOST OF HALLELUJAH to this date (March 9). Best record I've heard in awhile. And for all you Damnations fans, just know that they agree with me on this one. Plus, Rob Bernard (guitar, banjo, singing, songwriting for Damnations) and Keith Langford (drums on HALF MAD and before, he quit their band to join The Gourds) play on the record. And all you ANODYNE, A.M., and BEING THERE, etc. fans can hear what Max Johnston is up to these days. Oh yeah, and don't forget Jimmy, Kev., and Claude, the winds beneath 'everyone's' wings. --Matt Cook March 9:Walter Clevenger The Dairy Kings Love Songs to Myself (w/Kim Shattuck of The Muffs, The Rooks' Michael Mazzarella and former"Brady Bunch" actor Robbie Rist guesting) Joe Henry Fuse Beth Orton Central Reservation Wilco Summer Teeth Monte Warden A Stranger to Me Now
Re: What Country is Really All About
Howdy, Cool. I'm through with work for the day (there's still a great big pile of it on the desk, but I've seen all I care to see of it for the day), so here's my timely response to an article posted about a week ago... The Philclip(TM) says of country fashion: Compared to today's styles, the corn-pone, countrified heydays of Tammy Wynette, Loretta Lynn and Minnie Pearl seem like a century ago. If my memory isn't totally faulty, I once saw Loretta Lynn in a gingham Hee Haw type dress once while guest starring in a Hee Haw skit. I believe that Mr. Houk chose the wrong examples for illustrating his "corn-pone" evidence. As a matter of fact, I can't think of two worse examples than Wynette and Lynn who always seemed to be dressed in formal (or at least semi-formal) gowns whenever I saw them on stage. Actually, beyond comedy acts like Minnie Pearl, I'm having a hard time thinking up the names of women who regularly took the "corn pone" route in stage costuming. Almost every example I come up with usually involves a Hee Haw skit, medicine show, or alt-country band. But that really isn't the part of the article I wanted to quibble about. Mr. Houk's Dixie Chick article yanks my chain when he says: Why the change? Take a look at the country as a whole and see how it has morphed. The Deep South was much more isolated from the rest of the country in 1968 than it is in 1998. Back then, there was a much greater difference between Janis Joplin and Loretta Lynn than there is between Alanis Morissette and Shania Twain. Styles worn by Nashville stars tended to stay in Nashville. Today, with videos and full-time country cable channels, women from Portland, Maine, to Portland, Ore., can identify with music coming out of Tennessee. Umm, I'm sorry was he talking about 1968 or 1768? Thank God for the miracle of color television so the poor ol' South wouldn't be isolated any more. Gee-aww-ly, but that new-fangled electricity sure did introduce us to a whole new world. Oh, and thanks for showing us how to use can openers and teaching us that we didn't have to use flintlocks, too. We can credit the end of those particular examples of Southern isolation on the Food Network and the hunting shows on TNN. Mostly though, I am weary of the "Southern vacuum" theory. It is tiresome and more subversive to the Southern culture than anything the producers of Hee Haw ever dreamed up (Hey, Carl). I won't argue that there weren't pockets of true isolation, but by and large those pockets existed by choice (and in the case of this discussion, their existence in comparison to the whole is negligible). The vast majority of the South had access to the same tools available elsewhere (in this case, read: radio, automobiles, trains, movie theaters, newspapers, and other items which would make true isolation near impossible). Mr. Houk and his ilk usually confuse the difference between "rural" and "isolated" or fail to recognize that ethnic (or regional) cultures extend beyond the "isolated" neighborhoods in the five burroughs. Referring to the change from the author-defined "tacky" look of the 70s and 80s, the author says: To some, a change this radical is just that; an aggressive effort to stay current and relevant. Others see it as an abandonment of country music's roots and soul. And now, I wonder if this isn't one of those articles Jeff Wall has been writing in an apparent audition for The Onion. I cannot read further... Take care, Shane Rhyne Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry
I apologize -- didn't mean to reply to on list to post. Brain dead. Deb
Re: The North Carolina Run Starts This Friday!
In a message dated 2/9/99 9:00:33 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our follow up to Cow Patty Bingo, is just about in the can. It's going to be a hell of a disc, the likes of which have not been heard in a.. well, NEVER. It's a whole lotta rock roll, with a grin and a glint in the eye. Now I don't have a problem deciding what to get Paul Ameritwang for his birthday (forget Jeznowka). Mitch Matthews Gravel Train/Sunken Road
Re: WOW! (from Alex)
"Shane S. Rhyne" wrote: Howdy, Still catching up on old P2 posts... Louise Kyme publicly admits the following about our English cousins across the sea: I don't find the success of Garth, Shania, LeAnn and the Mavericks makes it any worse though, because they don't really sound like country. It's the Dolly Parton Don Williams era and sound that most Brits associate with country and laugh at. Ack! Dolly Parton and Don Williams are the subject of derision in the United Kingdom?! Oh yes, very much so. I can see that my calling in life will be to travel across the British Isles like a country music Johnny Appleseed, leaving copies of Dolly's CDs hither and yon at flats, manors, cottages, and homes across the kingdom. I'll leave a copy of Don Williams greatest hits and Dolly's greatest hits in every English hotel room, like a twangy Gideon Bible. I'll make my headquarters at the Hotel Barbican in London and start my evangelistic tent revival show soon thereafter. Well, Dolly is actually very mainstream over here, it's just that she is, well, um, a bit of a mainstream joke. You don't need to leave Dolly's CD around for people to have heard of her, because they already know her. She was on a mainstream chat show late last year and was very funny - very entertaining, and I loved her, but...but... she was definitely being humoured. Did any Brits on here see her on the Chris Evans show (whatever it is called)? There are a lot of Dolly and Don fans over here in country circles, but you just wouldn't believe the mickey taking the average UK punter gives towards anyone who says they like country music. It is one big joke. The English. Hmmph. Oh god, tell me about it, and I'm one of them! Proving once again that their cuisine and taste in music is pretty much the same... g Ah, well, now you're losing your argument. There is nothing like a traditional British Sunday roast g Louise -- If you like rocking country music, check out the Okeh Wranglers web site at: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/bluesmoke
PLAYLIST: Progressive Torch and Twang, Feb. 9, 1999
Playlist for Progressive Torch and Twang Tuesdays, 8 p.m. to midnight WDBM, 88.9 FM, G-4 Holden Hall, East Lansing, MI 48824 Your hosts: Jamie DePolo and Doug Neal Questions, comments? [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Roots rockin', hip-shakin', soul-swayin' music!" Another solo show for Jamie because Doug had a grant proposal due (you know how scientists are!) I had the opportunity to give away tickets to a show by Peacemeal, a Michigan old-timey band playing in town on Friday and was visited by two members of Zydecrunch, a local zydeco band who just finished recording a demo CD. Apparently the accordion player just entered a contest in Branson, Mo. looking for the "hippest, hottest" accordion player in America. Sounds like someone's trying to make the stomach Steinway a cool instrument. Will bagpipes be next? Playlist for February 9, 1999 Format is: Artist - Song Album/Label Link Wray - Rawhide Walkin' With Link/Epic-Legacy Steve and Earle and the Del McCoury Band - Pilgrim The Mountain/E-Squared Evangaline - All Roads Five Song Demo/self-released Paul Westerberg - Born For Me Suicaine Gratification/Capitol Johnny Cash - Down There By The Train (request) American Recordings/American Sally Rogers - Black Jack Davey (request) We'll Pass Them On/Red House Dreadful Snakes - Brown County Breakdown Snakes Alive!/Rounder Doyle Lawson and Quicksilver - The Grass I'm Playin' Is Really Blue The News Is Out/Sugar Hill The Dillards - Darlin' Boys (request) Let It Fly/Vanguard The Freighthoppers - Hell Broke Loose In Georgia Waiting On The Gravy Train/Rounder Mac, Doc and Del - More Pretty Girls Than One Mac, Doc and Del/Sugar Hill Dickens, Jones and Hawker - Lay Me To Rest Heart Of A Singer/Rounder Joe Ely - Me and Billy The Kid (request) Live At Liberty Lunch/MCA Bottle Rockets - Dinner Train to Dutchtown Leftovers/Doolittle Tom Waits - Highway Café (request) Pearls In The Snow/Kinkajou Hazeldine - Wild and Blue (request) Orphans/All Swoll Chris Knight - The Band Is Playing Too Slow (request) Self-titled/Decca Jeremy Wallace - Missing You This Morning My Lucky Day/Palmetto Chris Wall and Reckless Kelly - The Empty Seat Beside Me Tainted Angel/Cold Spring Allison Moorer - Is Heaven Good Enough For You (request) Alabama Song/MCA Allison Moorer - The One That Got Away (Got Away With My Heart) (request) Alabama Song/MCA Gwil Owen - No Ammunition (request) Nashville: The Other Side of the Alley/Bloodshot Seconds Flat - Gone Self-titled/Red Bird Billy Bragg and Wilco - Hesitating Beauty Mermaid Avenue/Elektra Michelle Shocked - When I Grow Up (request) Short, Sharp, Shocked/Mercury Peacemeal - Waterbound/Boatsman self-titled/self-released Peacemeal - Pans of Biscuits self-titled/self-released Wanda Degan - Simple Gifts/Lullaby Heart The Valley of Abundance/self-released Rollie Tussing III - Daddy Where You Been So Long Blow Whistle Blow/One Man Clapping Blue Mountain - Bloody 98 Homegrown/Roadrunner Shaver - Georgia On A Fast Train (request) Live At Smith's Olde Bar/Zoo The Derailers - Just One More Time Reverb Deluxe/Watermelon Stacey Earle - Losers Weep (request) Simple Gearle/Gearle Records Cowboy Junkies - Misguided Angel (request) Essential Junk/RCA Richard Buckner - Boys The Night Will Bury You Since/MCA Bob Dylan - All Along The Watchtower (request) Unplugged/Columbia The Backsliders - Throwin' Rocks At The Moon (request) Throwin' Rocks At The Moon/Mammoth Uncle Tupelo - Anodyne Anodyne/Reprise Bill Kirchen - Hot Rod Lincoln (request) Hot Rod Lincoln Live/Hightone BR5-49 - 18 Wheels And A Crowbar Big Backyard Beat Show/Arista Zydecrunch - Get It Hot self-titled/self-released Zydecrunch - Bon Ton Rouille self-titled/self-released Zydecrunch - Sugarcane self-titled/self-released Junior Brown - Highway Patrol (request) Junior High/MCG The Hollisters - Deacon Brown The Land of Rhythm and Pleasure/Freedom Whiskeytown - Bottom Of A Glass Straight Outta Boone County/Bloodshot Grievous Angels - Long Gone Lonesome Blues Miles On The Rail/Bloodshot Marty Robbins - El Paso (request) Columbia Country Classics/Columbia Flat Duo Jets - Little M Lucky Eye/Outpost Golden Smog - Love and Mercy Until You Came Along/Ryko Iris Dement - Our Town (request) Infamous Angel/Philo Bad Livers - I'm Goin' Back To Mom and Dad Industry and Thrift/Sugar Hill V-Roys - Miss Operator All About Town/E-Squared The Replacements - Skyway Pleased To Meet Me/Sire Chris Whitley - Scrapyard Lullaby Dirt Floor/Messenger The Gourds - Gin and Juice (request) Gogitchyershinebox/Watermelon Jamie DePolo/Doug Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Progressive Torch and Twang Tuesdays, 8 p.m.-midnight WDBM-89 FM, G4 Holden Hall East Lansing, MI 48824 Request Line: 517-355-4237 The TT homepage: http://pilot.msu.edu/user/depolo
BR5-49 (Chicago)
Who's going to the show at Fitzgerald's tomorrow? I could use a lift, will throw $$ into the tank or towards the liver. Live on the North Side. Much appreciated Car-on-the Fritz Dave __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: 1R1R in ND
Well, it was clear the reviewer hadn't heard "Face made For Radio" cos then maybe he would have noticed the Pere Ubu cover, proof of their eclectic record collections, a point the reviewer sat on for awhile. He also didn't notice that they cover a Great Plains (the OH Garage-"punk" band) tune on the new one, if he needed more proof of eclectism. And way back, they covered Duke Ellington. Who are y'all talking about here? I know Clawhammer has done Pere Ubu and Ellington covers, but I'm pretty certain that isn't the group under discussion. Lance . . .
RE: 1R1R in ND
One Riot One Ranger, or 1R1R, in p2 lingo.. Matt -Original Message- From: lance davis [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 10:53 AM To: passenger side Subject: Re: 1R1R in ND Well, it was clear the reviewer hadn't heard "Face made For Radio" cos then maybe he would have noticed the Pere Ubu cover, proof of their eclectic record collections, a point the reviewer sat on for awhile. He also didn't notice that they cover a Great Plains (the OH Garage-"punk" band) tune on the new one, if he needed more proof of eclectism. And way back, they covered Duke Ellington. Who are y'all talking about here? I know Clawhammer has done Pere Ubu and Ellington covers, but I'm pretty certain that isn't the group under discussion. Lance . . .
RE: Gay Country (Was: Re: K.D. Lang)
This reminds me that I wanted to offer a brief observation concerning Carl Wilson's post on the subject from last week, in which he referred to a survey of attitudes toward homosexuality. I don't doubt that the respondents he described as suburban/female (I don't, alas, have the original post anymore) and hence part of the presumptive New Country target audience, exhibited less than, er, affirmative respect for gays and lesbians, but it ought to go without saying that their views aren't exactly a step backwards from the views one would find among members of the country music audience pre-, say, 1980. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
RE: Railroad Jerk
Railroad Jerk were supposed to play Providence, RI and Boston, MA two weeks ago but I heard from some friends who are close to the band that on the way to the Providence show they were in a pretty bad automobile accident and were injured. They cancelled both show. That's all I know. rebecca npimh: "This is the ballad of Railroad Jerk" And for the fella who asked about Railroad Jerk, I think "One Track Mind" may be one of the sleeper records of the decade. If you like the JSBX--but grow tired of the schtick--and you like Beck's wacky electro-folk-hipster-hop-damnation, check it out. Clever without being too cheeky, methinks. I thought Third Rail was a step backward, but good enough to buy used. Are they even around anymore? I haven't heard from them in awhile. Gots to go. Lance . . .
RE: 1R1R in ND
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Jon Weisberger wrote: Who are y'all talking about here? I know Clawhammer has done Pere Ubu and Ellington covers, but I'm pretty certain that isn't the group under discussion. It's One Riot One Ranger, known to intimates as 1R1R. BTW, add my voice to the "poor reviewing" chorus. Whoever it was that wrote it (I don't feel like looking right now) seems to have allowed what he read of the liner notes to shape his attitude toward the whole album, and seems also not to have actually read what he read very carefully. It makes for a bad combination... Agreed. I wonder if he's heard the first record. A more informed opinion would have behooved the dude. Kip Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Neil Young solo shows in SF Bay area
Friday March 19: Neil Young, solo, Berkeley Community Theater, Berkeley, 8 p.m. Saturday March 20: Neil Young, solo, Paramount Theatre, Oakland, 8 p.m. Tickets go on sale Sunday at 10 a.m.
Clip: Flipper
http://www.sfweekly.com/1999/current/music1.html Flipper Redux A half-decade after his bands demise, Steve DePace is trying to write and close the book on Flipper By Mark Athitakis As documents of old punk rock bands go, Flippers Live: 1983 is more interesting than most. Part of the reason is because, well, as old punk rock bands go, Flipper was better than most. Released last November on local label Dog Patch Records, the video chronicles the San Francisco foursome in its prime, tearing apart tradition in the studio of a public access cable station. In a time when most punk bands played fast, guitarist Ted Falconi had mastered the slow, noisy, and confrontational anti-groove that grunge bands would make a million bucks from 10 years later. And while the punk rock bassist was often an afterthought, Flipper had two: Bruce Lose (né Calderwood, later Loose) and the late Will Shatter both pounded out a heavy, droning murk over which they shouted manifestoes that were once angry and self-aware. The crucial Flipper lyric -- which showed up in nearly every one of Shatters obituaries after he died of a heroin overdose in 1987 -- came from Life: Life! Life! Life is the only thing worth living for! But the crucial Flipper song was Sex Bomb, where in 10 toiling minutes and seven words (complete lyrics: Shes a sex bomb/ My baby, yeah) the band unlocked the simplicity and power of punk rock while finding the epic reach of great music in general; its punks Stairway to Heaven. None of which made Flipper the most famous band to rise from San Franciscos vibrant punk scene of the late 70s and early 80s, but the group was easily the most influential. All the Dead Kennedys inspired was a mess of punk bands who today play political joke-punk thats twice as fast with lyrics half as funny. Flipper, however, got around: Among others, Concrete Blonde, the Melvins, and Sebadoh have covered Flipper songs, and thats a homemade Flipper T-shirt Kurt Cobains wearing on the liner sleeve of Nirvanas In Utero album. R.E.M. covered Sex Bomb for its Christmas fan-only single in 1994, while Mudhoneys Mark Arm wrote the liner notes to the 1995 reissue of the bands odds-and-sods collection Sex Bomb Baby. But that album, like everything Flippers done, is currently out of print. Well, sort of. If you want to get a copy of the bands debut masterpiece Album -- Generic Flipper, the looser and more ambitious Gone Fishin, or the double live album Public Flipper Ltd., youll need to get a turntable and send a check to Steve Tupper at Subterranean Records. Those recordings are lying around Subterraneans offices in the Mission District, collecting dust. Tuppers right to sell the vinyl versions of Flipper material was the fallout of a 1992 lawsuit (later dismissed) in which the band sued Tupper for the right to put its material on CD. Tupper says his business is more focused on distribution these days, and admits that he hasnt done much to let people know that the bands work is still available. But he also doesnt see the point. Theres nobody left who gives a shit about them, frankly, he says. Steve DePace gives a shit, but of course he would: He played drums with the band, after all, helped manage the groups tours and finances, and tried to keep his nose clean as Flipper descended into massive and tragic drug abuse. It was kind of like Spinal Tap, except the bass player keeps dying, as Bruce Lose put it. The Flipper heroin death toll stopped at three: Shatter in December of 1987. John Dougherty, who took Shatters place for an ill-advised reunion tour and embarrassingly mediocre comeback album, American Grafishy -- heroin too, on Halloween 1997. And Ricky Williams in 1991, who was in an early version of the band and actually named the group. (Williams had a menagerie of pets in his apartment and, strung out as he was, named them all Flipper so he could remember what to call them.) DePace is trying to get the entire story down on paper -- the riot of music, drugs, and San Francisco punk scene-making -- for the Flipper memoir hes currently writing. Now living in Los Angeles, he began writing the book (working title: Generic Flipper) three years ago but set it aside. Recently, though, hes picked it up again and has started shopping around what he calls the whole adventure of Flipper; Henry Rollins 2.13.61 imprint has expressed some interest. In the meantime, DePace is also working to get Flipper onto CD: The bands debut and Sex Bomb Baby are scheduled for rerelease by American Records this year. ROIR Records will reissue the cassette-only 1983 live album Blown Chunks, and a rerelease of We Dont Play, We Riot, a 1979 EP by Negative Trend featuring a pre-Flipper DePace and Shatter, is also planned. And the Live: 1983 video is a reissue as well; an earlier
Re: Country CD-ROM Encyclopedia to be Issued by country.com, TNN, DreamWorks
Some PR stuff of note. -- NW February 10, 1999 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE COUNTRY.COM, TNN, DREAMWORKS NASHVILLE STARWORKS JOIN FORCES TO ISSUE COUNTRY MUSIC CD-ROM ENCYCLOPEDIA ON APRIL 6 STREET DATE Country.coms Century Of Country is Interactive Version of Author Barry McClouds Definitive Country Encyclopedia... TNN Will Cross-Promote In Year-Long Century Of Country Features NASHVILLEDreamWorks Records Nashville will combine forces with the TNN cable television network and its country.com web site to launch Country.coms Century Of Country: Definitive Country Music Encyclopedia the worlds first interactive country music encyclopedia. The CD-ROM, based on country musicologist Barry McClouds book Definitive Country: The Ultimate Encyclopedia Of Country Music And Its Performers, is a product of StarWorks, Inc., an electronic publisher and software developer. It is set for a street date of April 6, 1999. Manufacturers list price is $29.98. The comprehensive CD-ROM encyclopedia features photos, audio interviews and videos, artist contact information and discographies (with more than 50,000 albums and singles catalogued.) The CD-ROM features a powerful search engine which searches by artist first or last name, group, album title, song title, awards, birthday or style. An aggressive pre-release sales campaign will be implemented from March 8 through April 5 by TNN and country.com to pique consumer interest. Designed to create a solid stream of consumer awareness surrounding its release, the CD-ROM will be featured in a multitude of TNN programming features. It will be spotlighted in TNNs daily Historical Moments feature as part of its year-long Century Of Country campaign, as well as on a multi-month trivia contest on Crook Chase. The Country.coms Century Of Country CD-ROM is the first retail item to bear the country.com logo as the heavily traveled World Wide Web destination builds brand identity in the retail marketplace. Country.com will present a Web chat with author McCloud following his appearance on TNNs Prime Time Country on the street date, April 6. Additionally, the CD-ROM carries the distinction of being the first non-music sales campaign to be jointly marketed by country.com and TNN. The CD-ROM will make its presence known at Country Radio Seminar in Nashville (March 10-13), at the annual gathering of programmers from more than 2,000 country radio stations. It will be featured in Country.coms Century Of Country-branded trivia contests daily at the TNN Prime Time Country, Westwood One and DreamWorks Records Nashville areas. Country.coms Century of Country will be marketed to music retail, software outlets and libraries. Universal Music Distribution will handle music outlets and Navarre Distributors will supply software stores. Author McCloud spent ten years and conducted hundreds of interviews while researching his Definitive Country encyclopedia, which has been added to the standard reference guide list for libraries throughout the U.S. StarWorks spent an additional three years working with McCloud to develop and update the CD-ROM. The British-born author/musicologist, who relocated to Nashville in 1992, has also recorded and written music, booked artists and promoted concerts, and worked as a record promoter. There was a time when innovation was almost a dirty word in country music, says McCloud. Drummers were hidden behind screens and electric guitars were frowned on. Now, with the CD-ROM of Definitive Country, country music is on the cutting edge and serves as a beacon to the worldwide musical community. According to Lynn Epstein, Vice President of Marketing for StarWorks, Inc., "StarWorks is very excited about the opportunity to work with DreamWorks, country.com and TNN to be able to utilize its electronic publishing technology to create exciting and innovative interactive music products such as Country.coms Century of Country. Martin Clayton, Vice President/General Manager of country.com, sees Century Of Country: Definitive Country Music Encyclopedia as a natural extension of the brand country.com has developed. The Web attracts people who cant get enough of what they like, he says. Country.com is encyclopedic in its depth, so its natural that our first consumer product is a country music encyclopedia. In numerous campaigns during 1998, TNN and country.com mounted several highly successful pre-release CD campaigns, selling large numbers of CDs and providing immeasurable branding and marketing impressions through its on-air and online campaigns, adds Brian Hughes, Vice President of Programming for TNN. The Century Of Country CD-ROM will offer the consumer an
Re: Country CD-ROM Encyclopedia to be Issued by country.com, TNN,DreamWorks
COUNTRY.COM, TNN, DREAMWORKS NASHVILLE STARWORKS JOIN FORCES TO ISSUE COUNTRY MUSIC CD-ROM ENCYCLOPEDIA ON APRIL 6 STREET DATE Country.coms Century Of Country is Interactive Version of Author Barry McClouds Definitive Country Encyclopedia... Uh oh. It's too bad they didn't choose the Country Music Foundation's comprehensive, well-researched encyclopedia over Barry McCloud's inferior one. McCloud's Definitive Country features a number of fine entries on early performers from Charles Wolfe and Ivan Tribe, but the other contributors aren't nearly as notable, with McCloud himself being perhaps the most questionable of all. His writing skills leave much to be desired, and too many of his entries read like poorly written fan-club profiles rather than serious encyclopedia summaries. Unfortunately, he contributed more entries than anyone else. Many of the entries from other contributors are also of questionable quality. Thanks to Wolfe's and Tribe's contributions, I still find it handy, but it's an imperfect reference book at best.--don
Re: WOW! (from Alex)
I remember one time watching a bunch of Londoners laughing at a Texas act in a club there because the lead singer had on a cowboy hat. They assumed it must be a joke and that nobody who took himself to be a serious musician would dress up like that. I think what has happened there is that country music has come to be thought of in the same way that we in the US think of Branson. This is in part because there is a contingent of country fans there who are considered to be squares. We had to fight like hell to convince people that we were not square, not Nashville country types, and didn't dress like Texans to be cute, but because that's how we actaully dressed at home. We got it from both sides, too. The squares hated us because we didn't play Nashville dreck and the hipsters tried to lump us in with the squares. We finally learned which places we would be accepted and which places to avoid and it all worked out, but the cultural differences were very tough to fathom at first. I remember one tiny little old lady, dressed to the nines in a black cowgirl outfit of rather dubious provenance, who came up to Kimmie after our show in Hartleypool and began to hiss squinty-eyed right in Kimmie's face. She said "I don't like you! I don't like you atall! You don't play country music! 'Tis jazz!! 'Tis jazz!!" and stomped off in her psuedo-cowgirl boots. This was because we had brought our big Western Swing band directly from the Broken Spoke the the shores of the North Sea, and the natives just didn't get it atall. They apparently had never heard of Bob Wills, heard a record of his, and didn't realize that in Texas we use more than three chords! It was rather disturbing to be lectured repeatedly about a subject that we assumed we might know more about than a British person, but it happened a lot. Go Figure. Anyway, we love England and we love our London gigs and I thought the whole thing was a great experience. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Elena Skye's Postcard to Postcard2 (tour info...)
ELENA SKYE the DEMOLITION STRING BAND "Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful." 2/16The Double Door Inn Americana Showcase @ 9:30pm 218 E. Independence Blvd, Charlotte, NC (704)376-1446 2/17Dottie's 9:30pm 307 Memorial Dr., Atlanta, Ga (404)523-3444 2/18Local 506 9:30pm 506 W. Franklin St., Chapel Hill, NC (919)942-5506 2/19Cowboys 10pm, w/ The Billygoats 265 Front St., Wilmington, NC (910)762-8007 For updated info and added dates call (201)348-4841 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tanks for reading this far...and please look for the debut cd "One Dog Town" on North Hollow Records at Tower Records, on-line at Amazon.com, Miles of Music and CDnow.com. Please ask for it at your fave non-mega indie record store and at your local Tower or Virgin store. It is distributed by Hepcat thru Valley AEC. And we sure appreciate you calling your listener-supported radio station and requestin' a song from "One Dog Town". Now sit.lie down.roll over..speak! NORTH HOLLOW RECORDS * Box 47 North Hollow Rd. * Rochester,VT 05767 * (802)767-4255 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Country CD-ROM Encyclopedia to be Issued by country.com, TNN, DreamWorks
COUNTRY.COM, TNN, DREAMWORKS NASHVILLE STARWORKS JOIN FORCES TO ISSUE COUNTRY MUSIC CD-ROM ENCYCLOPEDIA ON APRIL 6 STREET DATE Country.coms Century Of Country is Interactive Version of Author Barry McClouds Definitive Country Encyclopedia... Uh oh. It's too bad they didn't choose the Country Music Foundation's comprehensive, well-researched encyclopedia over Barry McCloud's inferior one. Yeah, what he said. I wonder what's behind this odd call... Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
FW: Jeff White on the Opry
-Original Message- From: Bluegrass music discussion. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ken Irwin Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 4:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jeff White on the Opry Jeff White reports that he'll be on the Opry this weekend for those within listening range "I'll be doing the Opry both Friday and Sat. nights. Friday on the 8:30 spot and Sat. 8:00 and 10:15. It will be most of the record band Vince, Jeff Guernsey, Mike Bub,and Jason Carter and some banjo man. It should be fun.
RE: 1R1R in ND
they still suck. they're a damned entertaining band, especially since they suck. Just because they have more nubile teenaged groupies than Hanson doesn't mean that they still ain't no part of nothin. they suck. but at least they suck with style. Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 3421 Daisy Crescent - Va Beach, Va - 23456
duke ellington
At 10:23 AM 2/10/99 -0600, you wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Jon Weisberger wrote: Who are y'all talking about here? I know Clawhammer has done Pere Ubu and Ellington covers, but I'm pretty certain that isn't the group under discussion. my favorite Duke Ellington cover has got to be Bill "Brad" Keith's version of Caravan off of Something Old, Something New Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 3421 Daisy Crescent - Va Beach, Va - 23456
Re: Busted; thanks a lot
At 07:02 AM 2/9/99 -0600, you wrote: Um, Terry, the Damnations record isn't out til next Tuesday. I have a couple of harmonicas I can lend you in the meantime, though. Jim, smilin' I got some Soap on a Rope I'll send you too. Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 3421 Daisy Crescent - Va Beach, Va - 23456
Re: Railroad Jerk
God, I just hate stories like this... You musicians be careful while touring, OK? We kinda have an informal rule that we don't try to drive long distances right after we finish a gig; we just stay in town that night and do our driving the next day. Pushing too hard adds to the already considerable danger of driving so much; be sure to get yer sleep! I'm not familiar with Railroad Jerk, but obviously wish 'em a speedy recovery... Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA YIKES! Let everyone know if you find out the scoop. nipmh: "Bang the Drum! boom...boom...boom" -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "passenger side" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Railroad Jerk Date: Wed, Feb 10, 1999, 10:06 AM Railroad Jerk were supposed to play Providence, RI and Boston, MA two weeks ago but I heard from some friends who are close to the band that on the way to the Providence show they were in a pretty bad automobile accident and were injured. They cancelled both show. That's all I know. rebecca npimh: "This is the ballad of Railroad Jerk"
Re: Clip: First country music and now *this*?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From today's MSNBC website. C'mon, don't tell me y'all never *suspected*?" --Jon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wollaston, Massachusetts Falwell suspects Teletubby is gay Hell, we've all known this for years. Where has Jerry been? In fact, every man in America is gay except for Jerry but we haven't clued him yet. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
RE: duke ellington
At 10:23 AM 2/10/99 -0600, you wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Jon Weisberger wrote: Who are y'all talking about here?... Hmph. I better make the Neal Weiss complaint; I knew perfectly well who was being talked about... Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Texans and odd hats
Just retuned from Europe where one of my artists , David Gogo, was touring a number of festivals and show with Guy Forsyth. One of his band members was seen sporting a lovely cat hat. Not a racoon - a cat. His head gear, needless to say, got a lot of attention. At the risk of upset certain cat fanciers on the list I'd say that was one damned fine use for a cat. Doug
Re: Dylan
So I meant to ask about this a few days ago after Lance's and others' raves about Dylan. Can he really still sing? Will Will, I don't know how to convey how skeptical I was before I saw him. Your very question, in fact, was pre-eminently on my mind. I was expecting to be respectfully bored for the duration of the show, like I was for the Stones. But, lemme say that my earlier praise was--by no means whatsoever--qualified. He sounded fantastic. He did not hit the notes in the manner in which they were recorded, mind you. But, he adjusted the song around the capabilities of his voice--which was surprisingly strong AND capable--and, in addition to sounding fantastic, augmented his re-interpretation with great arrangements. I'm not sure if he's been given enough credit for being a bandleader, but how he framed his voice was remarkable. It wasn't just a Bob thing. His band is smoking. Standup bass, country picking, pedal steel, and mandolin are all well-represented. Like I said, if he can take an old warhorse like "The Times They Are A-Changin,'" and make it sound new . . . well, you do the math. I guess what I'd have to say about the guy is this: He ain't getting any younger and he ain't getting any better. He may not be "Dylan '66," but that ain't very fair. He put on a helluva show, and great entertainment should be its own reward. Besides, he set the bar so damn high, and reinvented the wheel so many times, I think we expect from him the unrealistic. I know I did. The guy's the bomb. Don't miss him. You will NOT regret it. Lance . . .
Re: The East Tennessee Contigent Expands (Was: Re: The JudyBats (family tree))
At 04:49 PM 2/9/99 -0500, you wrote: On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:23:36 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Shane, I'm in Athens, GA I but I came from Knoxville g Deb Well, I'm a transplanted Middle Tennessean myself, though I think I'll take my stand with the Central Virginia crew. You see, we can always call up the heavy guns from Tidewater -- Jeff Wall and the might of the Atlantic Fleet. Fuck that. I am originally Middle Tennessee White Trash. Born and raised in Lebanon, Tennessee. Wilson County has (or had) the largest amount of armed rednecks in pickup trucks in the world. Williamson County runs a close second. When war breaks out, I'm holing up in Fairveiw. Just try to get my ass off the ridge. Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 3421 Daisy Crescent - Va Beach, Va - 23456
Re: Dylan
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, lance davis wrote: Like I said, if he can take an old warhorse like "The Times They Are A-Changin,'" and make it sound new . . . well, you do the math. One thing worth mentioning -- Dylan's been radically reinterpreting his songs in concert for years. Check out the '74 live album Before The Flood for some *very* different versions of some familiar Dylan "warhorses."--don
Re: WOW! (from Alex)
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:10:43 + Stevie Simkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: after all, and I seem to remember Clapton went thru a bit of a Williams worshipping phase During the "Slowhand" phase, to be precise. I'm pretty sure he included a couple of Don Williams songs on that album. Those royalties couldn't have hurt Williams or JJ Cale, for that matter, because it was a popular record. I should remember, because it was *huge* while I was in high school. I do remember that "Cocaine" was one of those mid-tempo songs that was impossible to dance to -- do you try to slow dance or do you try is a fast dance thing or do you just give up and go outside with your buds (pun intended) and chug the warm beer you've got stashed in the bushes? I do remember that during interviews at the time (ca. 1977, I think) Clapton came across as a kind of Don Williams convert -- could this be considered his "country" album, I wonder? Was this all covered in the ND article? I saw Clapton at the Municipal Auditorium in Nashville during the "Slowhand" tour and Williams opened for him there. Was this the case for the rest of the tour? I don't remember much about that show because of all the Miller ponies consumed on the 2 hr. drive. William Cocke Senior Writer HSC Development University of Virginia (804) 924-8432
Re: Dylan
At 11:54 AM -0800 10/2/99, Don Yates wrote: One thing worth mentioning -- Dylan's been radically reinterpreting his songs in concert for years. Check out the '74 live album Before The Flood for some *very* different versions of some familiar Dylan "warhorses." Indeed, or *any* of Dylan's live albums. He's been reinterpreting and rearranging his material pretty consistently since about 1965. (Prior to that, in his all-acoustic all-the-time phase, he pretty much sung his songs live as he had recorded them in the studio, and vice versa.) For what it's worth, in my estimation Dylan's best live album is _Live 1966_ and _Before The Flood_ is his worst, but that's not say I think any of Dylan's albums is worthless. Hell, I even enjoy Columbia's 1973 "revenge" album. What I have noticed is that many people, even devout Dylan fans, are disappointed when they hear Dylan live for the first time. (Lance appears to be an exception to this; back in the day, I wasn't.) Dylan does not perform his songs as he records them: the arrangements are different, the moods are different, and Dylan's vocals are quite different. To me, the very quality of his voice, the timbre, the pitch, what have you, sound differnt live vs. in the studio. If you get too attached to the recorded performances of his songs (quite easy to do), it can be quite jarring at first. I personally think that, once you get used to the new approaches, however, his best recent live performances prove to be stunning in their emotionality and vocal dexerity. If anyone were wondering if the current live Dylan is going to be their cup of tea, I would recommend listening to his _Unplugged_ album (his second best live album, in my personal rankings), which does give a good impression of his current live vocal stylings. It is also the only album he has ever released which features his current touring band (well, the 1994 version anyway -- there's been changes since, but the overall band sound has been pretty consistent.) Ross Whitwam[EMAIL PROTECTED] Molecular Pharmacology Therapeutics Program Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, NYC
Re: Dylan
One thing worth mentioning -- Dylan's been radically reinterpreting his songs in concert for years. Check out the '74 live album Before The Flood for some *very* different versions of some familiar Dylan "warhorses."--don Yes, true enough, true enough, indeed. However, since my reply was specifically in reference to a Dylan fan wary of wasting $30 in the near future, I thought I'd concentrate on the current state of Dylan interpretation. Besides, it could be argued that Bob's croaky destruction of "Masters of War" a few years back on the Grammies was also a reinterpretation--it just sucked. The same goes for that listless, unforgivable Letterman appearance, and the list goes on and on. Disappointments have abounded. Now though--and for whatever personal reasons--his powers of (self)-redefintion seem to have been rejuvenated, and it would seem a shame to pass up this golden opportunity. And, for what it's worth, I think Bob's show now is much better than that recorded for Before the Flood. I understand that that was the last show for that Band/Bob tour, and I would probably have a different opinion had a SEEN the show, but nevertheless, there's only a few moments on that record that really jump out at me. Lance . . .
Re: The East Tennessee Contigent Expands (Was: Re: The JudyBats (family tree))
Well, I'm a transplanted Middle Tennessean myself, though I think I'll take my stand with the Central Virginia crew. You see, we can always call up the heavy guns from Tidewater -- Jeff Wall and the might of the Atlantic Fleet. . I am originally Middle Tennessee White Trash. Born and raised in Lebanon, Tennessee. Wilson County has (or had) the largest amount of armed rednecks in pickup trucks in the world. Williamson County runs a close second. When war breaks out, I'm holing up in Fairveiw. Just try to get my ass off the ridge. Being from Giles County TN, smack dab on the Alabama line where I 65 runs through into North Bama, I'll vote to stand proud and tall with the ALL VOLUNTEER Contingent. Wilson Co may have the most pickups and guns but Giles Co has the fewest teeth!g and we won't even mention that little episode with the hooded fellows, getting started there and all. And Jeff, bring those gunboats up the TN river into North Bama, we'll be able to hold off half the world Mike Hays http://www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net
Bob Egan shows (NY/MA)
Passing some info along for Bob... March 23 Brownie's, New York, NY March 25 TT's, Cambridge (w/Steve Wynn) Joyce Linehan Artist Management 10A Burt Street Dorchester, MA 02124
Re: WOW! (from Alex)
William T. Cocke wrote: During the "Slowhand" phase, to be precise. I'm pretty sure he included a couple of Don Williams songs on that album. The very wonderful "We're All the Way" is on there. He also covered "Tulsa Time" but that turned up on another album I think. I have seen mention of Clapton doing a song called "Country Boy" in concert around this time and have always wondered if that is the Don Williams number "I'm Just a Country Boy" (.' money have I none' .). Anyone know? I do remember that during interviews at the time (ca. 1977, I think) Clapton came across as a kind of Don Williams convert -- could this be considered his "country" album, I wonder? Certainly has some countryish stylings here and there. It also has some great rockers, like "The Core". Was this all covered in the ND article? Still looking for the damn thing on this side of the atlantic... Stevie
Re: Dylan
lance davis wrote: The same goes for that listless, unforgivable Letterman appearance, and the list goes on and on. Disappointments have abounded. Hey, just hang on a doggone minute there. Are we talking Dylan on Letterman in 1984? Dont Start Me Talkin, Jokerman and License to Kill? One of THE great Dylan performances ever (... and I have the live tape collection to prove it) ? Surely not. I have listened to hundreds of hours of Dylan, and that Letterman show is about as stoked as he EVER sounded... Oh well, different strokes n all that Stevie
RE: The East Tennessee Contigent Expands (Was: Re: The JudyBats (family tree))
Mike Hayes: Wilson Co may have the most pickups and guns but Giles Co has the fewest teeth!g and we won't even mention that little episode with the hooded fellows, getting started there and all. I thought the KKK originated in lovely east Texas, specifically the town of Vidor. I'm referring to the area north of scenic Beaumont, near the Louisiana border. There is a trio of small towns there (Vidor being one, I can't remember the names of the other two) that are known in local medical circles as the "septic triangle". People have come out of there with the most amazing and unique genetic characteristics. rebecca
Re: Dylan
What I have noticed is that many people, even devout Dylan fans, are disappointed when they hear Dylan live for the first time. My first time was Wembley Arena 1987, backed by Petty and the Heartbreakers. It wasn't bad (the Heartbreakers could make anyone sound good, really), but not great. Petty's set which preceded Dylan's blew the old croaker clean out of the water, from the opening "Keep Your Hands to Yourself" to the bring-the-house-down take on "American Girl". And if that wasnt good enough, Petty and McGuinn did a mini byrds set before that, with all the old classics in there. Quite a night... Stevie
RE: WOW! (from Alex)
I have seen mention of Clapton doing a song called "Country Boy" in concert around this time and have always wondered if that is the Don Williams number "I'm Just a Country Boy"... Could be, but it might also be the Albert Lee number turned into a country #1 by some fella named Skaggs... Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: more 1R1R in ND
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Chad wrote: So I guess - in short - what I'm trying to say is... Quit Whining! g and I think ND should incorporate 5-star scale or something. Yeah, maybe the ND scale could be something like *, *!, *!*!*!*!*! --don
RE: more 1R1R in ND
Wow - I sure do hate to take on Chad, especially since he's been pretty sour lately, but Sure, the review isn't 100% negative, but it wouldn't be a backhanded review if it was, which I think is the main contention here. If reviewer said it sucks bad, and here's why I think so, we could only grumble, but he basically sez "well, they claim to be adventuresome, but they're not really, in fact, they're kind of tame, and yeh, they're ok, competant and all, nice harmonies, but don't bother if you like the Bad Livers or Ralph Stanley.." which more or less means "don't anyone bother." Finally, it was more of a review of the liner notes than the music, doncha think? But a rating system of some kind would help these reviews cut to the chase. -Original Message- From: Chad [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 2:56 PM To: passenger side Subject: more 1R1R in ND
RE: more 1R1R in ND
IMO-A rating system igenerally useless, since almost everything is mediocre, everything tends to get three stars and tells you nothing. Jim, smilin' and wondering what Babs has to smile about
Re: It hasn't died after all (long)
Are you makin' fun of me? 'Cause if you are, I don't think I can take it. Never happened to me before. --Matt Cook P.S.--I had to stop (drinking) prematurely last night so I wouldn't embarrass myself too bad upon my rereading of my gushings today. I think I might catch up tonight. Too bad I don't live in Austin (yet), Max, Jim, and I could drink 96 beers (while listening to the Police) before sundown again. You should hear me talk when I'm thatta way. While, I cannot type so well plastered, I can still talk. And believe me, it's the most profound shit you ever heard. But you can't blame alcohol for your own stupidity. And I've got alla that with or without the poisons. Matt Benz wrote: So where's the promised MattReview of the album?--don E...thsi album are fook gawd shit terrficc n ill stand on fkiing Danzig's coffee table and...I luv the goordds, did issay at? i am drrrunnkkk. jus wait a miunte i errr um arg say i saw some old tuna noodle casseeroolle whachya think bout that??Some dam gud shit on theis rec imean cd is greeattt. Oh..you meant Matt Cook's sorry.
RE: It hasn't died after all (long)
Aw, I'm just joshing ya. Those few posts you made while hammered (few?!!) had me rolling on the floor. Never have I seen anyone who could type the way a drunken man talks gibberish. So I was almost disappointed with your straight review of the Gourds, but that's alright. It was still a good review. Well, then, have yerself a good drunk tonight. Speaking of which, this reminds me of a somewhat amusing Bob Sovine story, for what it's worth. Last practice, the man had finished a 40 ouncer and was sitting down when I started off a song. I get done with the little intro lick, and instead of him coming in with his part, suddenly, Bob's guitar flies through the air, smashing into the mic stand with a great "grrboingpcrash!" in perfect time. "Damn strap." he sez. Now I'm the Other Matt -Original Message- From: Matt Cook [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 3:32 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: It hasn't died after all (long) Are you makin' fun of me? 'Cause if you are, I don't think I can take it. Never happened to me before. --Matt Cook
Re: Gay Country (Was: Re: K.D. Lang)
Just a correction of the record here, Jon. I didn't argue that the views in the survey and intreviews were a step backward from anything. (And I also didn't say suburban/female - I said average middle-class - which was the focus of the survey and the related book (whose title I'll trawl up if anyone's interested)). My point was that on race, religion, culture, gender (i don't recall there was any class oriented content, unsurprisingly) the responses were much more tolerant and unprejudiced than you might expect - while the respondents may not live integrated lives racially, for instance, they recognized and earnestly expressed respect for those categories of difference. But when it came to homosexuality people were much less progressive, much readier to express discomfort, even hatred. The implication was that we haven't come as far in North Am. society on accepting diverse sexualities as we might like to think, compared to some other fronts. That's not nec. to say the survey was accurate, but insofar as it was an indicator, it reinforces the sense that the very idea of homosexuality is still fraught territory and risky for music that pitches itself more toward "average" folks. Thus it's probably a mistake underestimating the career problems it would raise for KD or any other out country musician (or light pop or rock artist, or fill-in-the-mainstream-category here) carl w.
Re: The East Tennessee Contigent Expands (Was: Re: The JudyBats (family tree))
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:57:31 -0500 Mike Hays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am originally Middle Tennessee White Trash. Born and raised in Lebanon, Tennessee. Wilson County has (or had) the largest amount of armed rednecks in pickup trucks in the world. Williamson County runs a close second. When war breaks out, I'm holing up in Fairveiw. Just try to get my ass off the ridge. Being from Giles County TN, smack dab on the Alabama line where I 65 runs through into North Bama, I'll vote to stand proud and tall with the ALL VOLUNTEER Contingent. Wilson Co may have the most pickups and guns but Giles Co has the fewest teeth!g and we won't even mention that little episode with the hooded fellows, getting started there and all. And Jeff, bring those gunboats up the TN river into North Bama, we'll be able to hold off half the world Jeez, and I thought Virginians were hard-headed and ornry ...I guess you can take the boy out of Tennessee...FWIW, my part of Frankin Co Tenn has enough coves and caves to keep you soft *valley* boys lost for yearsg And yes, Tennessee does have the sad and dubious distinction of birthing the KKK thanks to our own Nathan Bedford Forrest. Fortunately, Franklin County's two most famous former citizens are a bit more civilized: Polly Crockett (wife of Davy) and Dinah Shore. William Cocke Senior Writer HSC Development University of Virginia (804) 924-8432
New label! New goods! (long, sorry..)
BLOODSHOT REVIVAL and SOUNDIES are pleased as all get-out to present a series of unreleased transcription recordings from the 1930s through the early 60s, featuring some of the greatest names in country music history... * Rex Allen * The Last of the Great Singing Cowboys * Spade Cooley * Shame on You: The Western Swing Dance Gang Bloodshot Records, Chicagos Home of Insurgent Country (where upstarts like The Waco Brothers, Alejandro Escovedo, Neko Case, Andre Williams, and The Pine Valley Cosmonauts come home to roost...), and our friends at Soundies, are proud as hell to launch our subsidiary imprint -- ladies and gentlemen, witness the first two releases in what will be a dazzling array of goodies from country musics storied past -- brought to you by BLOODSHOT REVIVAL! None of these recordings has ever been released in any form. These budget-priced CDs and cassettes are lovingly re-mastered from the transcription lacquers, and feature excellent period artwork and liner notes. Other notable releases slated for 99 include collections from Ernest Tubb, Sons of the Pioneers, and Hank Thompson. File these releases under country -- with a capital C. First up is the Arizona Cowboy himself -- REX ALLEN. In keeping with the Bloodshot/Chicago spirit, the songs in this collection were recorded during Allens 1946-1949 heyday as the star of Chicagos WLS Barn Dance (a radio show that surpassed the Grand Old Opry in influence well into the 1960s). On The Last of the Great Singing Cowboys, you get fast-paced instrumentals, velvety ballads, smooth trio harmonies, and story songs -- with a crack backing band of accordion, fiddle, guitar, and swinging stand-up bass. This stuff smokes, folks. (street date: March 23, 1999) Next in line we have the King Of Western California Swing -- SPADE COOLEY. Shame on You: The Western Swing Dance Gang contains never-released recordings of Spade and his band -- some are so rare that in many cases they are the only recorded versions of the songs. Recorded over 1944 and 1945, they feature the vocal talents of Tex Williams (who went on to solo fame behind hits like Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! That Cigarette!), and showcase Spade and Tex at the height of their collaborative efforts. (street date: April 20, 1999) Its a new day in the bunker, comrades. These are beautiful recordings from country musics seminal glory days. Everyone from Granny on down will love it and want to swing along. Just think! No more Bloodshot-induced family rifts! This stuff is fancy-good. Resurgent country anyone? Call on Hogan or Stacey at Bloodshot for the whole story --[EMAIL PROTECTED] 773-248-8709 BLOODSHOT RECORDS 912 W ADDISON CHICAGO IL 60613-4339 773-248-8709 fax 773-248-8702 www.bloodshotrecords.com
Re: more 1R1R in ND
Well... 1) I think over half the revie talks about the music and not the liner notes in a decent enough manner. 2) 5 star scale - I think it would help. Sure, everything's generic, especially this year. But I think the majority of readers know the reviewers' tastes well enough, to have something right there instead of having to read the whole dang review... if someone gave every record 5 stars, then you'd take it with a grain of salt. Or at least, I think twang fans are that smart. chad
Bloodshot radio transcripts
Okay Hogan, I'll bite: how the heck did Bloodshot end up with these rare radio transcripts? Let's have the story. (Btw, I think this is a wonderful and somewhat well, unexpected project from the label g) Kip
Re: WOW! (from Alex)
Ph. Barnard wrote: About "Country Boy": Could be, but it might also be the Albert Lee number turned into a country #1 by some fella named Skaggs... I suspect (i.e. I know) Jon's right here; Albert Lee was actually in Clapton's band on and off during the period he performed this song. --junior Oh well. That's a pretty good one, too. Be interesting to hear Clapton to do it. Love the version on Skaggs' Live in London album... Stevie
Nashville Music Awards - Ask the winners
if'n you are bored tonight, check out www.nashvillemusicawards.com and see if anyone you care about actually wins...there will be a question and answer with some of the winners. meshel n'vegas
Re: Dylan
For my money the best Dylan live record is HARD RAIN. Every version on that puts a smile on my face. I'm not sure they rehearsed at all. It sounds like they are following an insane yelling Bob's whims on the frequent breaks. "Oh Sister", "Maggie's Farm", "Lay, Lady, Lay", etc. have never been better. --Matt Cook "Lay lady lay...LAY ACROSS MY BIG BRASS BED!"--Bob
Re: WOW! (from Alex)
I saw Clapton at the Municipal Auditorium in Nashville during the "Slowhand" tour and Williams opened for him there. Was this the case for the rest of the tour? In Philly, John Martyn opened that tour. It's the only time I ever saw Clapton...obviously I wasn't too impressed since that was 1978 and I never had the urge to see him again. :) I remember liking Give 'Em Enough Rope and All Mod Cons a lot better. Still do. Steve Kirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] np: Slobberbone--Barrelchested (wow, it took me a while, but I **love** this album) ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: Dylan
At 9:13 PM + 10/2/99, Stevie Simkin wrote: lance davis wrote: The same goes for that listless, unforgivable Letterman appearance, and the list goes on and on. Disappointments have abounded. Hey, just hang on a doggone minute there. Are we talking Dylan on Letterman in 1984? Dont Start Me Talkin, Jokerman and License to Kill? One of THE great Dylan performances ever (... and I have the live tape collection to prove it) ? Surely not. I'm with Stevie on this one. Great great effort from BD that night. I suspect Lance might have been referring to a later Letterman appearance -- I think it was a prime time special celebrating Letterman's 15th anniversary on the air, or something like that -- when BD performed a somewhat lackluster "Like A Rolling Stone" with Rosanne Cash + two others on (superfluous, it seemed to me) backing vocals. Ross Whitwam[EMAIL PROTECTED] Molecular Pharmacology Therapeutics Program Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, NYC
Re: more 1R1R in ND
2) 5 star scale - I think it would help. Sure, everything's generic, especially this year. But I think the majority of readers know the reviewers' tastes well enough, to have something right there instead of having to read the whole dang review... if someone gave every record 5 stars, then you'd take it with a grain of salt. Or at least, I think twang fans are that smart. Speaking as a writer, I tend to dislike rating systems. It seems it's the ultimate dumbing down, as they ultimately discourage people from reading in afvor of a quick scan. Why not eliminate the text altogether and just have a huge list of albums and ratings? Also, as Jim C. noted, ratings systems are severely flawed. Systems with 1-5 choices tend to end up as a three and 1-10s tend to be 6-8. I remember when allstarmang.com first launched and we were all doing reviews. The editor had to ask all of us to try and reconsider giving every album a seven. But it just seemed a natural. Six, it seemed, was a bit too unkind for a decent effort and eight too lavish. So what's the point? And while I have you, I just gotta wonder what's bugging Chad about this year in music? I think it's ridiculous to delare it mediocre or generic or what have you, especially 40 days into it. All I know is, I'm *thrilled* about several releases that have come my way already. At least one, the new Sparklehorse, I've already penciled in for several years worth of enjoyment. Point is, there's waaay too much music out there to ever claim the artform is devoid of something fresh and engaging. Sometimes you just have to look harder than usual, or just expand your horizons. Back to the grind. Neal Weiss np - Westerberg's new one
Eddie Arnold/Little Roy Wiggins CD suggestion?
Does anyone know of a good CD featuring Little Roy Wiggins' lap steel playing with Eddie Arnold? There seem to be a few different Arnold compilations, but I'm looking for one featuring his earlier work. Thanks, Brad ___ Brad's Page of Steel: http://www.well.com/user/wellvis/steel.html A web site devoted to acoustic and electric lap steel guitars
Re: New label! New goods! (long, sorry..)
Whoo hoo! Needless to say, some of us are very much lookin' forward to these. One more reason to bow down and worship Nan, Kelly and even cranky Mr. Miller.--don
Re: Eddie Arnold/Little Roy Wiggins CD suggestion?
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Brad Bechtel wrote: Does anyone know of a good CD featuring Little Roy Wiggins' lap steel playing with Eddie Arnold? There seem to be a few different Arnold compilations, but I'm looking for one featuring his earlier work. You'll find very little early Eddy Arnold on any of the available compilations, save the recently released Bear Family box. (There's two or three early tunes on RCA's falsely titled Essential Eddy Arnold CD, but a lot of the others are actually later remakes.) There's also a hard-to-find Japanese import that I was fortunate enough to pick up a coupla years ago titled (I believe) Early Recordings. It's wonderful stuff. And if you haven't yet thrown your turntable away, Brad, you might wanna try to snag the fairly easily located vinyl album Anytime. A number of the young Eddy Arnold's biggest and best can be found on there.--don
Re: Dylan
lance davis wrote: The same goes for that listless, unforgivable Letterman appearance, and the list goes on and on. Disappointments have abounded. Stevie replied: Hey, just hang on a doggone minute there. Are we talking Dylan on Letterman in 1984? Dont Start Me Talkin, Jokerman and License to Kill? One of THE great Dylan performances ever (... and I have the live tape collection to prove it) ? Surely not. To which I re-reply: My bad for not specifying. I was referring to the Letterman gig which, I believe, was Dave's 10th Anniversary Special (1991/92?). Bob stumbled and bumbled through something that sounded vaguely like, "Like a Rolling Stone." Anyway, now that you've let the cat outta the bag, how can a humbled Dylan spouter get a copy of those '84 songs?? Offlist reply perhaps?? Lance [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Introduction...
personally, I can't stand any of the music they talk about, however, I'm just really lonely, and find weeding through 100 or so emails a day the thing I need to keep my razors in the medicine closet... g And there it is folks, a true life testimonial from a true Deliberate Stranger fan... Tom
Re: WOW! (from Alex)
Joe Gracey wrote: I remember one tiny little old lady, dressed to the nines in a black cowgirl outfit of rather dubious provenance, who came up to Kimmie after our show in Hartleypool and began to hiss squinty-eyed right in Kimmie's face. She said "I don't like you! I don't like you atall! You don't play country music! 'Tis jazz!! 'Tis jazz!!" and stomped off in her psuedo-cowgirl boots. Sad, but a highly accurate summarization of the UK country western circuit. It took my family a good few years to come to the conclusion that if they say that then you must be *really* good. I know lovely people that frequent these clubs and so I don't want to generalize too much, but, well, in general, these people are totally mad. Really, they are. I hope you don't think too badly of us Brits. We're not all like that, honest g Louise -- If you like rocking country music, check out the Okeh Wranglers web site at: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/bluesmoke
Re: Knoxville and the Shane Shack
Howdy, As is obvious by now, I am plowing through a back log of P2 posts and am now reaching this one from Jon Byrd. I will submit the name change proposal to the WDVX management and see if we can't officially change the name of the camper to the "Shane Shack." I somehow doubt the idea will catch on, though. Here's an "aw shucks" moment. Jon says: We don't have to tell y'all P2ers what a cool guy Mr. Rhyne is, but we did want to let everyone know what fun we had and just how proud we are to put East Tennessee's "littlest mobile broadcast booth" on our resume. What a great treat. Shane treated us like the royalty we ain't! I sure thank Jon for the kind words, and sincerely hope any of y'all traveling through on a Saturday night might consider stopping by, too. There's room in the camper for one and all. Well, mostly one. (See it for yourself at www.wdvx.com) I am also going to try to update the information in my listing of Knoxville-area venues and hope to have the next edition ready soon. Anybody who might be planning a tour through the region is welcome to request one. They're free and almost useful. Contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take care, Shane Rhyne Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED] NP: Lone Justice, This World Is Not My Home
E-X-H-U-M-E
SOUTH TENNESSEE MAY EXHUME TAMMY WYNETTE'S BODY * 02/09/99 Orlando Sentinel (Copyright 1999 by The Orlando Sentinel) NASHVILLE, Tenn. - The Nashville-area medical examiner said Monday * he would consider exhuming the body of country music star Tammy Wynette for an autopsy almost a year after her doctor declared her dead from a blood clot. Davidson County Medical Examiner Bruce Levy said Wynette's three daughters and their lawyer "raised several issues" in requesting the autopsy and that he would make a decision in the next day or two. Levy said he spoke to Wynette's physician at the time, and considering Wynette's medical history, thought that a blood clot was "not an unreasonable diagnosis to make. But questions have been raised since then about the medications she may have been on."
Emmylou
Emmylou Harris carries on crusade against music categories BRIAN MCCOLLUM * 02/07/99 The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (Copyright 1999) What's in a name or a music category? You can bet that an Emmylou Harris song filed under any of them would sound as sweet. Harris, keen song interpreter and bearer of that golden voice, certainly knows something about getting pigeonholed across the musical map. Three decades into a versatile career, she can recite the definitions by heart. "If it sells, it's country," she said laughing. "If it doesn't, it's folk." Harris inhabits a dusky stylistic world that has long tripped up critics, a place that's both rural and cosmopolitan, traditional and progressive. Her name turns up in annals of rock, pop, country and folk, as she maintains her lifelong crusade, as she says, to "fight against categories." Meanwhile, as her adopted home of Nashville has turned its sights over the last decade toward younger, pop-oriented acts, it's not surprising that she's seen her place on the country charts usurped. Like so many who have idealized American roots music, Harris understands that her yearning for a richer culture might be hopelessly romantic in the face of commercial demands. *"I always had a vision of country music that never realized itself," she said. "It's odd. I never really came from Nashville. I live here, but I was always just circling." She's quit listening to country radio "maybe I'm missing something," she said diplomatically and keeps her ears tuned now to a modest but limber local station that plays everything from Fats Domino to Patty Griffin. "There are obviously a lot of talented people out there, but they're struggling," she said. "But, you know, music good music is always going to survive. And ultimately history will be the judge of what we remember and what touches us. I feel like there's fantastic music being made now, and always has been." Harris says she felt right at home last summer when she played a string of dates on the Lilith Fair tour, the traveling contingent of female artists that became the year's biggest rock festival. She immediately became a fan of left-field rocker Liz Phair and groove band Luscious Jackson. "It's great to be around creative people, to see the variety of music that's out there," she said. "You don't get a chance, when you're an artist, to see as many people live as you'd like. You're always on the road." Last year was supposed to be Harris' break from work. As it turned out, she said, "it became a kind of running joke about Emmy's year off." Not long after Lilith came the release of "Spyboy," showcasing Harris' concert work with her top-notch backing band, the album's namesake. As much a career retrospective as a concert disc, it featured a rare live recording of her legendary "Boulder to Birmingham," a track from the 1975 debut album she recorded shortly after the death of mentor Gram Parsons. So now 1999 is the official year off; aside from occasional gigs, Harris is keeping herself at home to write songs. Already recorded and due out soon is "Trio II," with Linda Ronstadt and Dolly Parton. *She says she envies artists such as country rocker Steve Earle, who "spoils it for the rest of us" by effortlessly writing on the road. "You can't wait around for that muse. This is a job," she said with a laugh. "But you do have to give yourself the time. You have to cordon yourself off from distractions and force yourself to wait for the muse."
Re: Texans and odd hats
You wrote: Just retuned from Europe where one of my artists , David Gogo, was touring a number of festivals and show with Guy Forsyth. One of his band members was seen sporting a lovely cat hat. Not a racoon - a cat. His head gear, needless to say, got a lot of attention. At the risk of upset certain cat fanciers on the list I'd say that was one damned fine use for a cat. Neat - except he should maybe consider a dog hat next time...That way, if the band ever tours in China, the rest of the dog won't go to waste. Disclaimer: I was bit by a Tibetan KyiApso (sic) on Christmas Day, and I still hold a grudge.. -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ cat fancier, dog tolerator...for now
wristbands
Hello Austinites (All you non-austin people can resume your business), My brother and I need four wristbands. In-laws, you know Seriously, if there is someone who I can send a check to in advance who can pick us up the goodies I would be most appreciative. Please e-mail me off-list Gracias and resume your non-fluffing Jeff Miles of Music mail order http://www.milesofmusic.com FREE printed Catalog: (818) 883-9975 fax: (818) 992-8302, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alt-Country, rockabilly, bluegrass, folk, power pop and tons more.
re: Clip: Flipper
I first discovered Flipper in 1981, when I came up here to go to UC Berkeley. Between then and 1985 I saw them seven more times. I remember that first time really well at the On Broadway in SF -- the curtain opening to deafening feedback (On Broadway had a stage curtain); Will thumping the opening bassline of "Life is Cheap"; Bruce nodding his head slowly and out of time, cigarette in one hand, can of Bud in the other, looking anywhere but the audience. Then Steve and Ted came in on drums and the most distorted, fuzziest guitar I had ever heard (or still ever heard -- it's barely recognizable as a guitar, for God's sake). Man, the VOLUME!! The FEEDBACK (a constant during any Flipper show)!! The SLOWNESS!! And the sheer ARROGANCE of their stage show!! I was hooked something fierce -- a loyal member of the Flipper Fin Club. I saw lots of other shows during the 80's, but that was my introduction to SF punk rock. And, man, what a unique band. I really miss 'em. Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
Re: Clip: Will Drum for Five Bucks
Howdy, Sir Yates asked and has patiently waited for an answer: So, Shane -- do you know if these guys are actually gonna put out an album anytime soon? Five Bucks (formerly known as Shinola) were one of the two bands I knew nothing about that blew me away when I saw 'em at SXSW last March (the other was the Hot Club of Cowtown). Well, I wish I knew. Here in the hinterlands of Knoxville, Nashville news is slow to arrive. (Damn, isolation. g) I have a copy of a Shinola demo-type CD called "What Else Could It Be," and was assuming that it was simply a matter of changing the name of the band and releasing the thing. That doesn't seem likely right now. They did generate a buzz at SXSW and some other places and the Knoxville music columnists usually fill us in on what they're up to. Most of the news of late has been like the previously posted clip, though, which details work the members have been doing on everybody else's projects. Richie being a no-show in favor of a gig with Cousin Dolly seemed like a strange thing (I'm basing that more on what wasn't said in the article and the way the comment was phrased. Maybe I'm reading too much into that, I hope so.) Their supposed big break was going to come from their participation on Dolly's "Hungry Again," but that hasn't seemed to have moved things along very quickly at all. For what it's worth, by the way, I don't know if it's only my copy of "What Else Could It Be?" or is a universal problem, but the sound quality is crap. It's a shame, too, cause based on what I am hearing, I'd love to be able to play it on the air. I doubt that was the least bit helpful, but I hope it was in some way. Take care, Shane Rhyne Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nashville Music Awards
o. Viince Gill is picking right outside our room. He's very tan. Cool. Sorry. I'm name dropping. marie
Gwil Owen (Re: Oscar Nomination)
Gwil and his band, with Bill Dwyer on guitar, sure put on a smokin' set last night at the Billy Block Roots Revival at the Exit-In in Nashvilleplayed a couple of hard-edged new ones. Good show, but the highlight had to be Linda Gail Lewis' earlier set.Alison Moorer was also in the crowd, but didn't get up to sing BH
Clips
I notice there are a number of people posting clips to the list and that has caused me to sort of have a hard look at what I have been doing in that regard. I say that because if 'we' all post clips together than there is a chance of overwhelming the list with traffic that just gets 600 plus delete buttons working. I am going to post clips once a week from now on and that will be on Sunday PM as late as I can so they can be printed or saved and then read at leisure without taking the 'prime time' list hours (I may switch to Saturday, if that is a less busy time on the list). I would also encourage anybody on the list to contact me directly if you would like to see something posted or if you have a personal request - I'll try my best. I am also going to narrow my scope a bit to focus more on clips that relate more directly to themes and discussions that have been taking place on the list, freeing up room for the other 'clippers' for the more readily available articles of interest. A couple of unrelated points. I notice that talk of TwangFest is starting up again and as much as I'd love to make it, for the 3rd year in a row it is the same week that I am in Knoxville and that leaves me out again - although I was there briefly for the first one - left a note, don't ya know. Based on what I have read here, I am really looking forward to the new ones by Olney, Russell, Skaggs, Blue Highway, J.D. Crowe, Longview, Midnight Storm and although not mentioned here, Mr. Young. One last note - I joined the list to learn about alternative country and that has lead me straight to bluegrass - you go figure. Take care, Cecil's Cousin PS - that story I promised you about Cecil and me and alternative country could arrive at any time, then again .
Re: Gwil Owen (Re: Oscar Nomination)
In a message dated 2/10/99 7:42:54 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...Alison Moorer was also in the crowd, but didn't get up to sing
RE: New label! New goods! (long, sorry..)
Why, I'm so excited about these releases that I'm willing to overlook g the characterization of the WLS Barn Dance as "a radio show that surpassed the Grand Old Opry in influence well into the 1960s..." Influence in Chicago, maybe g, but I don't think that by the 50s, let alone the 60s, the WLS show had the influence of the Opry, the Wheeling Jamboree, SoCal's Town Hall Party and maybe some others. Seriously, though, this is great news. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: THE HOT 100 // THE MOST INFLUENTIAL AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN MUSIC //
Phil Connor wrote: THE HOT 100 // THE MOST INFLUENTIAL AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN MUSIC // Blacks in music: 100 years of 100 high notes //HISTORY: Looking back on the century's most important African-Americans in the field. BEN WENER; STEVE EDDY;TIMOTHY MANGAN: The Orange County Register * 02/07/99 The Orange County Register Well these exercises serve only to rile of course, but what the hell is Michael Jackson doing perched on top of Robert Johnson and Bird Parker? I suppose it depnds on what "important" means. Anyone else surprised that Charley Pride earns not even an honorable mention? And why is the Orange County paper doing this, of all places in the country?
Re: Emmylou
Phil Connor wrote: Emmylou Harris carries on crusade against music categories "If it sells, it's country," she said laughing. "If it doesn't, it's folk." Good way to define it. Can we all agree to this? Jon? Don? Stuart n.p. Chris Wall: Tainted Angel I like this honky tonk stuff. I vaugly rememberd the name from amongst the hundreds that get mentioned here that I know I'll never see in a store around here, and will probably never here cause I never get around to buying stuff on the net, only when I stumble into stores. Anyway, it was on the listening station at Borders. Now how did that happen?
Re: Emmylou
Phil Connor wrote: Emmylou Harris carries on crusade against music categories Like so many who have idealized American roots music, Harris understands that her yearning for a richer culture might be hopelessly romantic in the face of commercial demands. Yah, Emmylou and Herman Melville. But never say hopeless!
Re: Alejandro Escovedo/Buddy Miller/Railroad Jerk
The Buddy Miller disc, Your Love and Other Lies, is one great country/soul disc. Alejandro gives great shows but his discs bore me to tears. Stuart tossin in 2 cents
Re: WOW! (from Alex)
This has been an interesting and enjoyable thread. Since the Alex in the subject line is my teenaged son, and since Im going to London to visit him and the rest of the crew next week, I want to ask the British P2 squadron if there is any good music happening between the 19th and 28th. And I'm actually quite curious about one of the clubs Louise talks about with the quite mad cowboy patrons. Stuart
Re: K.D. Lang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I believe in polls exactly, but there was an interesting survey showing last year showing that homophobia truly is the last bastion of open intolerance in America. The authors did in-depth interviews with hundreds of very average middle-class people across the country, found them much more open-minded about race than anyone expected (tons of them brought up family members who were in interracial couples as a factor that made them reevaluate prejudice), but quite virulent in opposition to homosexuality. I find this quite hard to believe. In fact it seems from my vantage point to be quite the opposite, in terms of having family, friends, co-workers or whomever who are gay than having such in interacial relationships. I wonder what this very average sample is. There are certainly large and virulent pockets of anti-gay sentiment, most notably conservative religious sorts who see purple gay teletubbies behind every bush., Though most of them stopped short of hate-mongering, or even saying it should be a crime etc, they did honestly think it a sin. And disgusting too of course. That'd pretty much be the soccer-mom demographic country radio aims for, and I'd be pretty surprised if a gay or lesbian country star can break through before this changes. Deanna Carter is a lesbian. Well, I have no idea. But if we start spreading the rumor, will she go away? But there is a complex set of issues behind this so-called soccer mom issue and potentially gay country performers (or I should say, gay country potential performers?). One is the urge for normalcy, complacency, and the rest of the suburban fantasy of middle landscape clean white idyll that so much of corporate radio is programmed to. The other is the disruption alternative sexualities pose to this constructed weltanschauung. So, no, I don't expect a big push from the big labels/radio in breaking a gay country star. The idea is to sedate and comfort, manufacture the audience, and sell it to Wal-Mart or Applebees Neighborhood Bar and Grill. (Which I foolishly imagine it will by the time today's late-adolescents are grown, because no reasonably educated kids I meet now seem to be shocked by homosexuality anymore. But y'never know.) I meet those kids too. But I also run itno those shitless about it and will replicate in some way the fear-world of their parents (join the local suburban christian coalition church perhaps--hell, not perhaps, that's where I bump into them) All in all, I'd agree with Jon's assessment that it's still a lot better than it was in terms of outright hostility and violence. But I have my doubts about thinking it's progress rather than mutation into yet another virulant form.
