Re: Guadalcanal Diary
They have a cool website where you can buy the new CD. http://www.accessatlanta.com/global/local/yall/ I guess you go to music and then look up Guadalcanal Diary. I haven´t been there myself for a while now, so I don´t remember exactly. Anyway, it´s well worth checking out. Jerker Emanuelson Sound Asleep Records Sweden np.Guadalcanal Diary-Trail Of Tears (in my opinion, their best song ever)
DC Twang
I don't think we've been letting P2 know much about our concert series called the District of Country Barn Dance and Show. Sorry! We put out a CD a few months ago called "Greeting from the District of Country," which featured a lot of DC acts. We figured the next step was to put on shome shows. Since the Twist and Shout closed, things have been getting tight arond here, and sombody's got to start opening it up, Currently the only (occasionally) twangy venues in the DC area have been the Birchmere and IOTA. They're both great venues in their own way, but we (Honky Tonk Confidential) don't think they're enough. So we started our own shows. Maybe we'll fail, maybe we'll get rich, most likely we'll just put on a series of shows for a few months until we can't afford to lose any more money... In March, we hosted The Oklahoma Twisters. These guys are DC locals, but are the most authentic Western Swing band I've had the pleasure to have heard, with the exception of Asleep at the Wheel. The DC swing dance folks sure know them. Also on the bill was Classic Country. In that band are Buddy Charleton, who spent years with Ernest Tubb, and Speedy Price who is one of my personal guitar demigods. Jack Greene used to work for him! Coming up on April 9th, we have rockabilly singer-songwriter Brian McGuire and his band '52 Pickup and also Angry Johnny and the Killbillies. In May we'll have the Ghost Rockets, and Elena Skye and the Demolition String Band. So if you're going to be in the DC area (when your company sends you in to negotioate some contracts with Leviathan) come and check us out! http://www.muddypaws.com 202-544-7011
Re: Guadalcanal Diary
Jamboree is probably on my top ten list of all time favorite albums. I'm sad to say it's now out of print in the U.S.A. If anyone figures out how to get a hold of one of their new CD's, please let me know. Bob Big In Iowa Web Page- http://www.biginiowa.com Blue Rose Records - http://www.bluerose-records.com/
Re: Country Music mag's new format
Has anyone else seen the new version of Country Music magazine? It's now based in Nashville, and is completely unrelated to its previous format except for Hazel Smith's column. Rich Kienzle and Patrick Carr have been replaced by articles such as "Get Martina's Look" and photo spreads on up and coming singers (although one is Monte Warden). It's kind of a cross between New Country and Twang. ugh! jim catalano I suppose it's trying to appeal to the larger audience Country Weekly has, but they did warn us of prospective changes last fall. I often liked the observations Carr would put forth at times, yet several letters from previous issues just proved that the vocal majority rules. Read this issues letters also for a real sendup "don't let the door hit you on your way out" bronx cheer to Carr. Did they really have to publish those...or were they just trying to make a humiliating point? I mean, the man was already let go, the letters just added salt to the wounds. Not a classy move, in my opinion no matter what anyone may personally have thought of Carr. They apparantly will continue to publish "The Journal" for those who spent the extra $1.98. This issue has an article on Brenda Lee, Jimmie Rodgers and some background info on Bill Anderson's song, "City Lights". I don't know what's happening to country music magazines. I do take Country Weekly, but then again, I take it more for the gossip and the latest doings than the articles, which I find are only starry-eyed musings. Country Music Roundup is another which focuses on aspects of the chatty, star-gazing mainstream (or should I have said Top 40 acts), but includes some music sheets incase subscribers want to play along on their guitars or sing along. Country America is a little bit of this-n-that regarding country music, lifestyle, food, etc; So, at one end, we have No Depression which focuses away from mainstream and all of the other printed periodicals seem to focus on Top 40 acts with maybe a smattering of varying styles somewhere within. It seems we have to be alert enough to catch informative and intelligent essays and articles in newspaper publications, either on the Web or by paying attention to our local papers and/or trades. Frustrating, isn't it? What I have been reading for some time is the website Country Standard Time, which I think does a pretty good job of informing us on the doings of all matters country in an objective format. Come to think of it, if they published a magazine I would subscribe...except I'd like to see more in-depth reviews and articles. Yet, I believe the editors keep these relatively short in order to conserve space. Concerning Country Music - the editor's page outlines the changes and asks us to to tell him/them what we think. Maybe a really good letter or thousand would do I'm going to give it a shot. Tera
What are the kids listening to today?
I meant to tell folks on this list this cute story awhile ago... I was visiting my brother, sister-in-law and six year old nephew last Christmastime and I brought my guitar along and was strumming a few tunes. My nephew hasn't been exposed to too much music yet - sure, he loves the space ghost records (who doesn't), but my brother and sister-in-law don't play too much music around the house. Anyway, I was strumming and playing a Dylan tune, a Neil Young tune, Gram Parsons, Husker Du, Woodie Guthrie, whatever. My nephew liked it, but then I played one song which he started getting up and dancing around to asking me to play it again and again and again. It was the Bottlerockets 1000 Dollar Car. He just loved it - he sang it the next morning to his parents and only wanted me to play that song. Then later that week there was one other song he jumped around too and loved it almost as much as Thousand dollar car - it was The BottleRockets Welfare Music. This kid knows what he likes so I finally bought him his first rock and roll cd - you KNOW which it was - It hasn't arrived so I don't know what he thinks of it, but I can guess! A kid who will join this list one day :-) keep dancing, -ldk
Re: Librarians Rule
Jerry retorts gleefully to Tucker's post: Gosh, this sure made me laugh.. We librarians are everywhere I tell you. Without us the entire social fabric disintegrates. Remember what Yates has always said."beware the librarians". We have *our* sites squarely upon the industrial weasals at this point. But Widespread Panic.? Hmm, perhaps a Damnations, TX poster. However, how narrowsighted of my professional association.."sorry, you aren't well-known enough." Sheeshhow about a little outreach to those groups that are outside of our cohort group worldview. So, is this supposed to appease we jerk-water town writers who aren't "good enough" to get cd's for free; who go flying off to the closest "big city" libraries in hopes of securing the latest Del McCoury/Steve Earle or Monte Warden only to find that our trusted librarians have never even heard of them much less even know what will be coming in? Love/hate relationship, at best. Can't live with you librarians, can't live without you. Sheesh! Stabbed in the heart, Tera
Re: Lila kicks butt
-Original Message- From: Jon Weisberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 10:56 PM Subject: Lila kicks butt Just heard Lila McCann's first single from her new album, and it's a dandy; lots of fiddle (the first time, BTW, that I've heard fiddle parts that so clearly reflect the bowing part of the "Bow Bros." - the fiddle section on Shania Twain's last two albums - sound), a killer pedal steel break and steel ending, and a very cool bass line - oh, and some pretty good singing, too. Anyone know who the pickers are? Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/ Regarding the single, no- I do not know exactly who provides the backing for this song. All I do know is that Lila had some really good session players for her cd, "Something In The Air" including vocal efforts by Vince Gill and Steve Wariner, also Bryan White. Sonny Garrish and Paul Franklin duty on steel guitar and Stuart Duncan and Aubrey Haynie play fiddle according to press for her cd. McCann also wrote two songs in collaboration with Mark Spiro, "Can You Hear Me" and "I Reckon I Will". Tera
Re: Country Music mag's new format
vgs399 writes: What I have been reading for some time is the website Country Standard Time, which I think does a pretty good job of informing us on the doings of all matters country in an objective format. Come to think of it, if they published a magazine I would subscribe...except I'd like to see more in-depth reviews and articles. Yet, I believe the editors keep these relatively short in order to conserve space. Actually, there *is* a print version of "C.S.T." and you *can* subscribe. It's published nine times per year. Send a check for $22.50 to: Country Standard Time/54 Ballard Street/Newton Centre, Massachusetts 02459. For what it's worth, several people here (Jon Weisberger, Stuart Munro, and me, for instance) are regular contributors to the magazine. Yes, space is limited in the magazine, though not so much on the website, so reviews tend to be kept around 175 words. Cover stories tend to be about 1,600 words, regular stories about 1,200, and one-page stories are about 700 or so. --Jon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wollaston, Massachusetts
Re: What are the kids listening to today?
Then later that week there was one other song he jumped around too and loved it almost as much as Thousand dollar car - it was The BottleRockets Welfare Music. This kid knows what he likes so I finally bought him his first rock and roll cd There's something about the BoRox that's so damn simple, basic and catchy that kids love 'em. My two boys (8 4) go wild over 'em, so wild that I've sworn that if they ever do an instore or some other gig in Philly that's not a smoky bar at midnight, I'm going to take my 8-yr-old to see them. Every time he finds out I'm going to see them, he asks with a sad look on his face, "Is this another place you have to be 21 to get into?" So if any of you Doolittle folk on this list wanna schedule a Philly instore next time they're in town, there'll be at least 2 of us there. :) Steve Kirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: What are the kids listening to today?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then later that week there was one other song he jumped around too and loved it almost as much as Thousand dollar car - it was The BottleRockets Welfare Music. This kid knows what he likes so I finally bought him his first rock and roll cd There's something about the BoRox that's so damn simple, basic and catchy that kids love 'em. My two boys (8 4) go wild over 'em, so wild that I've sworn that if they ever do an instore or some other gig in Philly that's not a smoky bar at midnight, I'm going to take my 8-yr-old to see them. Every time he finds out I'm going to see them, he asks with a sad look on his face, "Is this another place you have to be 21 to get into?" So if any of you Doolittle folk on this list wanna schedule a Philly instore next time they're in town, there'll be at least 2 of us there. :) I caught em at an in-store and it was great. The place was full of kids in the 2-12 range and they loved em. Its the music of course, although the appearance of Henneman and Parr (especially) on the day after the big rock show of the night before is also probably pretty mezmerizing to a kid. g Stuart np: Earle/McCoury This might get to listening to bluegrass again. btw. anyone know what Buddy Miller is up to?
Re: boot me baby, but don't sell it
On a related note, look up Uncle Tuplelo or Wilco on Ebay. At any given point, you'll find all sorts of CD-R bootlegs for sale. Sad. Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
Re: flatirons
The FlatIrons are on Checkered Past, Chicago, IL At 09:18 PM 3/25/99 -0800, you wrote: I ended up sitting in a Target parking lot freezing while Radio Duff played 4 cuts from this band. And I just had to know who they were. Great great stuff. Finally he tells us who they are, also noting that 3 or 4 people called up the station demanding to know who it was as it such great stuff. The Flat Irons (?) from Portland Ore. Anybody know about them. Disc is called Prayer Bones, but I didn't catch the label. Is this available? Gotta have it. Stuart
Re: Upcoming Dallas shows
I would definitely say Buckner after having just witnessed him with band at SXSW and having my ass thoroughly kicked again. Besides, Slobberbone in Denton at Dan's is a sweaty, smelly affair replete with obnoxiously loud and slovenly oafish drunks unrelenting in their bombastic demands for Slobberbone songs that will never be played by the band again due to the fact that the band from now on will only play Emo music. And the new name for the band is now "Tickle Me Emo". Also, Slobberbone will be playing with the Damnations in Dallas at the Tea Room in a couple a' weeks anyways. And anyways the singer is an asshole. Rock over London, Rock over Dallas, B -Original Message- From: *Sometime to Return* [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 6:02 PM Subject: Upcoming Dallas shows Is anyone going to be at either of these shows this Saturday? a.) Richard Buckner w/ Sebadoh b.) Slobberbone (in Denton) Which do you all think would be the better one to go to...? I actually got someone to work for me that night. God's been taking care of me when it comes to shows recently... -A/D
Re: Guadalcanal Diary
Is "Live at Your Birthday Party" the new Guadalcanal Diary album to which y'all are referring? It's defintely a must-buy for any fan (and be purchased at www.guadalcanaldiary.com) but doesn't contain new songs--just a good selection of "Greatest Hits" done live. If there is a new album in the works, I'd also like to hear more about it. I cut my teeth on Guadalcanal Diary (first band I ever went to see live). Chad ** Chad Cosper Dept. of English Univ. of North Carolina at Greensboro 336-275-8576 http://www.uncg.edu/~cscosper
Buddy Holly lawsuit update
From the Rockabilly Hall of Fame website... Buddy Holly Lawsuit Update Buddy Holly's widow pleaded with MCA Records for decades to raise royalty payments from her husband's music before resorting to a lawsuit this month seeking millions for alleged underpayment. Maria Elena Holly and her lawyer told a news conference Wednesday she was stonewalled by the record company for most of the 40 years since Holly died in a 1959 plane crash at age 22. Holly joined the rock pioneer's sister and two brothers in filing the suit last week in Buddy's hometown of Lubbock, Texas. MCA Records is a unit of Universal Music Group, which owned by Seagram Co Ltd. "I have never given up, I have always had different lawyers approaching MCA... This is like David and Goliath. MCA laughs in everybody's face," said Holly, now in her late 50s. "They knew they were doing the wrong thing the whole time," she said. Holly recorded for just two years but was a major influence in history of rock, especially on Bob Dylan and the Beatles. Songs such as "Rave On" and "That'll Be the Day" are still recorded with regularity and Dylan closed his shows during his latest U.S. tour with Holly's "Not Fade Away." The lawsuit alleges that MCA underpaid royalties, used invalid or faked contracts from the 1950s, sold music without legal authority and failed to pay after reaching a negotiated settlement with the Holly survivors in January 1996. Universal Music Group has declined to comment on the legal action, saying it does not discuss pending suits in public. Maria Holly said MCA has continued paying the Holly survivors royalties at just 3 percent, far below today's rates. She said she asked MCA again and again to see the contracts it based its music rights on and has sought an accounting of where the company got material unreleased while Holly was alive and supposedly stored with Holly's parents. "She was stonewalled and lied to again and again and meanwhile things were happening and she couldn't keep up with them," said her attorney, Kevin Glasheen.
RE: HELLCOUNTRY Friday 3/26/99
Hey Stacey. Great hearing your, uh...voice, if you know what I mean. Sorry A and I are gonna miss the show tonight but we are headed out of town this afternoon for much needed rest, relaxation and fun in New Mexico. Hope you are doing well. I'm even more sorry that I will not see YOU tonight. Have a great time and will write more upon my return after April 5th. love, rebecca -Original Message- From: Hellcountry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 1999 5:24 PM To: passenger side Subject: HELLCOUNTRY Friday 3/26/99 Howdy folks! Just a reminder of our montly soiree known as Hellcountry is tomorrow -Friday Mar. 26/99 at the Kendall Cafe http://www.thekendall.com in Cambridge, MA. The show is $6 and will get underway at 9pm sharp. The lineup is sure to entertain, and we hope to see you there! 9pm - Robert Becker (NYC - original Gin Blossoms keyboardist) http://www.hellcountry.com/robert_becker.htm 9:45pm - Grits (Boston, MA) 10:45pm - Diesel Doug and the Long Haul Truckers (Portland, ME)http://www.dieseldoug.com "..A great blend of country sounds and rock attitude...pure down-to-earth fun." -- Casco Bay Weekly 11:45pm - Tar Hut recording artists the Ex-Husbands (NYC) http://www.tarhut.com I'm thrilled to finally arrange to bring the Ex-Husbands to Boston, they're not to be missed. Lucky me had a chance to see them twice in Austin, TX last week during SXSW and they had my feet wishin' I knew how to two-step and grinnin' from ear to ear. The Worcester Phoenix has nominated them in their best "roots" band category...go vote now at http://www.worcesterphoenix.com/cgi-bin/ballot.cgi Here's what the critics have to say: "If you like country music that's really country, check out the Ex-Husbands, a Brooklyn-gone-Nashville trio that sounds raised on chicken-fried steak." - Stereo Review "One of the best alternative country-rock bands around." - Relix "No pretense here, just three guys playing some great kick-ass country music." --Gavin ~ upcoming "HELLCOUNTRY SUNDAYS" at the Kendall. All shows are free with donations for the artist(s) cheerfully, and gratefully accepted and they start around 8:30pm and end by 11. 3/28 - Sean Staples (Vynal Ave. String band) hosts a bluegrass pickin' party 4/4 - Easter Sunday - no show 4/11 - Gilmans (Boston) 4/18 - Michael Tarbox (solo, of the Tarbox Ramblers - Boston, MA) 4/25 - Say Zuzu (Portsmouth, NH) Feel free to forward this email to your friends. If you wish to be removed from this mailing list just reply with unsubscribe in the header. We hope you don't... Hellcountry "supporting the Boston area twang scene" http://www.hellcountry.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Guadalcanal Diary
Or try here: http://www.guadalcanaldiary.com/merchandise.html Jerker Emanuelsson wrote: They have a cool website where you can buy the new CD. http://www.accessatlanta.com/global/local/yall/ === -- Tom Mohr usually here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sometimes here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: What are the kids listening to today?
Anyway, I was strumming and playing a Dylan tune, a Neil Young tune, Gram Parsons, Husker Du, Woodie Guthrie, whatever. One of the things is not like the other. Ain't it cool that Husker Du can be lumped in with these others? That's what No Depression means to me. I think. NW
Re: NATO bombs
At the risk of incurring the wrath of the List-dad... In response to Rebecca Katic, Alex Lazarevic says: I see you're full of hate but try not to think about stupid politicians and their decisions. Sorry, but how does it follow from Rebecca's objecting to the wholesale slaughter of Bosnians and Kosovians that she's "full of hate?" And what in her post--which was quite civil, by my reading--suggested the same? Stuart Munro
Re: What are the kids listening to today?
There's something about the BoRox that's so damn simple, basic and catchy that kids love 'em. Uh, my four year old is in the other room singing "Kit Kat Clock." Forget Barney and them Teletubbies, give the BoRox their own PBS morning show!
Swingin' Doors, 3/25/99
The first hour of last night's show is already up on the KCMU web page. Check it out at: http://www.kcmu.org/listen.htm You'll hear new music from the Gourds, Old 97s, Gerald Collier, Justin Trevino, James Hand, Big Sandy his Fly-Rite Boys, the Souvenirs and Mandy Barnett, along with the usual assortment of old chestnuts. Jerry Byrd - Three String Swing Tennessee Ernie Ford - Country Junction Beaver Nelson - Landed In The Mud The Gourds - Gangsta Lean (3/28 at the Tractor w/ Jon Dee Graham) Old 97s - Crash On The Barrelhead Gerald Collier - Long Distance (4/2 at the Tractor) Justin Trevino - Loud Music and Strong Wine Cal Smith - The Lord Knows I'm Drinking Hank Williams Jr. - (I've Got My) Future On Ice Mel Street - This Ain't Just Another Lust Affair Mel Tillis - Commercial Affection James Hand - Shadows Where The Magic Was Little Jimmy Dickens - I Wish You Didn't Love Me So Much Billy Jack Wills - Rock-A-Bye Baby Blues Biller Wakefield - Grinding Gears Big Sandy his Fly-Rite Boys - First and Last Blues Souvenirs - Last Chance (4/23 at the Tractor) Mandy Barnett - I've Got A Right To Cry Patsy Cline - Three Cigarettes In An Ashtray (request) Bill Anderson - Three A.M. George Jones - You Comb Her Hair Damnations TX - Kansas David Olney - JT's Escape Steve Earle the Del McCoury Band - The Mountain Ana Egge - Talco Girl (4/8 at the Tractor w/ the Austin Lounge Lizards) BR5-49 - Goodbye Maria (4/22 at the Showbox w/ Cesar Rosas) Wylie the Wild West - Ol' Montan (4/3 at the Tractor) Rex Allen - Out Where The West Winds Blow Eddie Dean - On The Banks Of The Sunny San Juan Jon Dee Graham - Soonday (3/28 at the Tractor w/ the Gourds) Pinetops - Evil Town Cisco - Callin' Me Back Kelly Willis - Talk Like That Cynthia Gayneau - Out Of Line Clay Blaker - Heart Of Glass (request) Charley Pride - (I'm So) Afraid Of Losing You Again Johnny Rodriguez - That's The Way Love Goes (request) Five Bucks - You Must Be From Nashville Tom Leach - I Like Booze Little Sue - Strong J.D. Crowe the New South - Come On Down To My World Jeff White - This Lonely Heart Of Mine The Del McCoury Band - She's Left Me Again The Stanley Brothers - If I Lose Ricky Skaggs - Boston Boy Jimmy Murphy - Shanty Boat Blues The Delmore Brothers - Blues Stay Away From Me (request) Hank Williams - Honky Tonkin' (request) Carl Smith - Are You Teasing Me Red Foley - Peace In The Valley Terry Allen - The Doll Hayseed - Wild Horses Swingin' Doors can be heard Thursdays from 6-9pm on KCMU 90.3FM in Seattle. Email me if you have any questions about the music played.--don
Re: NATO bombs
Stuart Munro writes: At the risk of incurring the wrath of the List-dad... (Snip)... Sorry, but how does it follow from Rebecca's objecting...blah blah blah...etc. Sorry about this, but I agree with the List-dad. This stuff doesn't belong here. And not only that, Rebecca's response was rude and ill-informed - IMO. Kosovo is not Bosnia and Alex is not Milosovic, for crissakes. Jim Nelson
Re: flatirons
At 09:18 PM 3/25/99 -0800, Stuart wrote: such great stuff. The Flat Irons (?) from Portland Ore. Anybody know about them. Disc is called Prayer Bones, but I didn't catch the label. Is this available? Gotta have it. And Jeff replied: It's new and it's on Checkered Past You can download an MP3 file of "High Lonesome Moon" from the Checkered Past site: http://www.checkeredpast.com/mp3/ And CDNOW has five sample from Prayer Bones you can hear. (I can't wait until Miles Of Music has sound samples some day so that we call all preview "our music" there instead.) Saw Flatirons at SXSW. I want that album too. Bob O.
You wanna talk about bombs? Well, here's one (was Re: NATO bombs
On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Stuart Munro wrote: Sorry, but how does it follow from Rebecca's objecting to the wholesale slaughter of Bosnians and Kosovians that she's "full of hate?" And what in her post--which was quite civil, by my reading--suggested the same? Again, if y'all wanna talk about Kosovo, please take it to private email. Or find a more appropriate mailing list or newsgroup. I'm tired of hearin' from people who have unsubbed from P2 due to an abundance of totally off-topic posts. I'm happy to let threads stray occasionally, and I think it's wonderful when we connect the more specific concerns of this list to larger cultural, social or political issues, but the above has nothing whatsoever to do with P2. Please, people, show some courtesy, and quit abusing this forum and your fellow P2ers' valuable time.--don
RE: NATO bombs
Please stop everyone. I'm *so* sorry. I did not intend to start a war (sorry!) here on P2 about this issue. I should never have posted a response to Alex on P2, Don's right. It's a very personal and emotional issue for me and my emotions got the better of my judgement temporarily. There are many many sides to this issue. Again, I'm really really sorry, but please stop. I apologize to anyone I offended, rebecca -Original Message- From: Paul Kirsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 26, 1999 11:54 AM To: passenger side Subject: Re: NATO bombs Sorry about this, but I agree with the List-dad. This stuff doesn't belong here. And not only that, Rebecca's response was rude and ill-informed - IMO. Kosovo is not Bosnia and Alex is not Milosovic, for crissakes. Jim Nelson Um Jim, I'm a little confused. Do you: A. Agree with the list dad that it doesn't belong here and observe that rule yourself or are you B. going to claim you agree, then consider yourself exempt from the rule *and* offer your opinion about the issue and Rebecca as well like you did above. Seems a bit hypocritical to me. I don't care whether you agree or not agree with Rebecca or Stuart. Just don't be a hypocrite. -paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boot me baby, but don't sell it
Larry Slavens wrote: What's got me about this discussion is the doublethink. I'm not supposed to have this live music that I didn't "pay" the artist for-- This was not my, at least, point. Whether a live tape is free or not is not the issue with me. All I ask is the courtesy of a veto over a bad show, or for that matter for any reason whatsoever, since I insist on my right as an artist to control what happens with my art. Pretty simple concept. While I don't have any passionate feeling about tapes floating around out there and consider them mostly harmless in practical terms, I do have an uneasiness about them insofar as they may violate my right to control how my art is exposed to the public. this is such an important and fundamental concept that it almost takes on a kind of holy aura with me, like the right of free speech, etc. It seems to me that it's pretty easy for industry weasels g who enjoy lots of free music to cast stones at a music exchange medium that they don't participate in. I don't really see how promo music relates to tape trading. Promos fall entirely within the confines of what I am talking about, the artist's right to control how his music is presented. (And I'll join the musicians in their everyone-should-pay-for-every- note-they-hear argument if they join me in my campaign, as a writer, to close down every library, used book store store, copying machine, scanner, and the like, so that every person who reads my work has to pay for it. It's only fair.) I have often wrestled with this similarity. How is a used book store any different than a used CD store? It seems to me that to be entirely fair there should be some way of assessing a royalty at the point of sale of all books/CDs/art. One last thought. Even though tape trading may be harmless and not for profit, there is still something there that bugs me. All I have to sell is my music. If my music goes around endlessly for free, am I not being deprived of compensation for what I do? I am not angry or blustering about this, just slightly confused by it. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
bombs, etc/off topic posts
My apologies for contributing to this mess, folks. Jim N.
Twang in Serbia
Alex, is there much Twang in your area of the world? I think that it's damned amazing that we have listmembers here from places so far away. If possible, can you give us any information on Country/Bluegrass/Twang music in Eastern Europe? Which artists are popular? Are there many radio stations or clubs which feature this music? What's the music scene like over there? Meanwhile, everybody say a prayer to your diety of choice for everyone who is involved in the current conflict, on both sides. And even those in the middle. Headed that way in 9 days. Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 3421 Daisy Crescent - Va Beach, Va - 23456
Re: Upcoming Dallas shows
Slobberbone is always fun, you can't go wrong on this one if you like their stuff. However, Sebadoh and Buckner are booked to Deep Ellum Live which is notorious for sound problems. God, I hate that venue. I wouldn't risk it. Go to Denton! Anyhow, if you're in Dallas this Saturday and you're broke (as I'm after three great days in Austin and SXSW), Gypsy Tea Room is hosting its first anniversary party with free admission. Cowboys and Indians and THE CARTWRIGHTS (yeah!!!) are performing. Should be a lot of fun. Ed Burleson and James Hand are playing at Sons of Hermann Hall tonight. It was great meeting all of you during SXSW. I had a blast. A big applause to Cherilyn, Bloodshot Records, and No Depression/MoM for their great parties. Sorry I missed the P2 parties at Austin Motel, but I had to pace myself this time around due to a nasty accounting test I had to take last Monday. And while I'm de-lurking for a change, has anybody heard a band called Eleven Hundred Springs? These guys are my new local alt. country faves. Their first album titled "Welcome to ... Eleven Hundred Springs" (label: 13 Recordings) released a couple of weeks ago is very interesting. Although a bunch of the songs are CLEARLY inspired by the masters such as Hank, Merle, George, and Bob (Wills), Mike Hillyer (vocal, guitar and songwriter) has penned some great lyrics, and his voice really works for this kind of stuff. I've seen them live only a couple times, but I was really impressed when they opened for The Derailers two weekends ago at Gypsy Tea Room. 1100 Hundred Springs performs every Wednesday at Muddy Waters (always free admission) on Lower Greenville in Dallas. Later... André Kopostynski Dallas, Texas E-mail Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone Home (214) 827-1297 -Original Message- From: *Sometime to Return* [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 6:03 PM Subject: Upcoming Dallas shows Is anyone going to be at either of these shows this Saturday? a.) Richard Buckner w/ Sebadoh b.) Slobberbone (in Denton) Which do you all think would be the better one to go to...? I actually got someone to work for me that night. God's been taking care of me when it comes to shows recently... -A/D
Re: Twang in Serbia
I don't know about twang, but many moons ago Belgrade had some impressively schlocky garage-rock bands (a la Shadows of Knight, early Stones and Gene Vincent imitators, etc.). As a teenager I spent a summer in Belgrade with a girlfriend and came back with some Serbian 45s (long since lost in the mists of personal history) and a pair of chinese-made Chuck Taylor-style basketball shoes with Mao on the little round logo place on the outside heel. They were extremely cool and I wore them all the time till they fell apart about six months later (not very well made g). We're talking late 70s here, under Tito and before the former Yugoslavia was former. At that time it was a relatively progressive Iron Curtain country, with more autonomy than most. Rock and roll and basketball were the two popular "western" activities that signified modernity and western-style freedom. There was still what I supposed was a "60s" vibe on the youth culture, coffee shops that played Dylan and Muddy Waters, etc. I saw some of these bands perform, invariably on really shitty intruments but with tremendous enthusiasm and the real spirit of rock and roll in cyrillic letters g. They were fun, even if technically less-than-competent, and sounded as if they were trying to reinvent early Stones for those who thought the Ramones were virtuosos g. With all the terrible things going on over there, I've wondered more than once whatever happened to these folks --junior
Re: Twang in Serbia
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 26-Mar-99 Twang in Serbia by Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alex, is there much Twang in your area of the world? I think that it's damned amazing that we have listmembers here from places so far away. If possible, can you give us any information on Country/Bluegrass/Twang music in Eastern Europe? Which artists are popular? Are there many radio stations or clubs which feature this music? What's the music scene like over there? I'll use up my "me too" post of the week to second Jeff's questions and also wonder how much of the stuff you get from over here is due to internet contacts. Your playlists are remarkable. Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 26-Mar-99 Twang in Serbia by Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meanwhile, everybody say a prayer to your diety of choice for everyone who is involved in the current conflict, on both sides. And even those in the middle. Headed that way in 9 days. One more "me too". Finally, Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 26-Mar-99 Re: Twang in Serbia by [EMAIL PROTECTED] As a teenager I spent a summer in Belgrade with a girlfriend and came back with some Serbian 45s (long since lost in the mists of personal history) and a pair of chinese-made Chuck Taylor-style basketball shoes with Mao on the little round logo place on the outside heel. They were extremely cool and I wore them all the time till they fell apart about six months later (not very well made g). Fantastic. Junior, I think if we started a "coolest shoe" thread on teh fluff channel, you'd win hands down. Carl Z. back to grant-writing
Steve Wynn
P2ers - I saw Steve Wynn in Boston last night . . . I've caught him the last 2 or 3 times around and have been pretty bored. But last night, especially the 2nd half, was pretty awesome. Some good new material, some of the old Dream Syndicate hits . . . the band he's touring with (including Chris Brokaw of Come) has got it together. I was especially impressed given that it was the 1st night of the tour. They do the rave-up thing to perfection. Highly recommended when he comes to your town. Bob Egan was also impressive with the bittersweet pop tunes. He's doing them in trio format, and the rhythm section is super-solid. I suspect they'll get better and better as they keep going. JJM
Cool Shoes Re: Twang in Serbia
Junior said: As a teenager I spent a summer in Belgrade with a girlfriend and came back with some Serbian 45s (long since lost in the mists of personal history) and a pair of chinese-made Chuck Taylor-style basketball shoes with Mao on the little round logo place on the outside heel. They were extremely cool and I wore them all the time till they fell apart about six months later (not very well made g). Fantastic. Junior, I think if we started a "coolest shoe" thread on teh fluff channel, you'd win hands down. That's weird. I bought a pair of Red High Top Chuck Taylors at a flea market in the New Territories of Hong Kong back in 1990. They had the Chuck emblem, but I think they were either bootlegged, or licensed to be made over in China. I love them shoes and I still wear them although they embarrass my son and wife to death. They're size 12 and they refer to them as my ugly bozo shoes. Fuck 'em. They have no taste. Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 3421 Daisy Crescent - Va Beach, Va - 23456
Re: Janie Grey
Umm...no.just...uh..curious... Hahahahaaahaaahha Jeff you old kidder... O At 01:00 PM 3/25/99 -0800, you wrote: Hey all: Anyone out there heard of a band called Janie Grey? If so, what's their style? I have a desperate need to pigeonhole... Sounds like you got a gig with them and are trying to figure out what you've gotten yourself into. Jam band, perhaps? Jeff Miles of Music mail order http://www.milesofmusic.com FREE printed Catalog: (818) 883-9975 fax: (818) 992-8302, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alt-Country, rockabilly, bluegrass, folk, power pop and tons more. Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
Re: Cool Shoes Re: Twang in Serbia
Jeff, my Chinese Chuck-Taylor ripoffs were red too (of course g). I mean, what other color was I supposed to get them in?? --junior PS As to Jeff's original query about Twang in Eastern Europe, I'd be much interested to hear about radio stations, venues and favorites over there myself.
Re: Janie Grey
Thanks Rob! O Owen -- Janie Grey are sort of in the "jam band" style, although I hear from our bass player (who has jammed mucho with their bass player) that JG shouldn't be dismissed so easily ... they do Basement Tapes era Dylan covers, so they *might* qualify as Americana? I don't know -- although they come around here all of the time, I've never had a chance to hear them, since I'm usually working/playing on weekend nights, or trying to catch up on my sleep! They have a CD or two out on the Murfreesboro-based Big World indie; haven't heard these either. They've got a pretty big following in this area -- all the dead-head kids love 'em! They're originally from Chattanooga, I think, although they're keyboard player's from Bristol or Abingdon, VA. Rob Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:00:12 -0800 From: Owen Bly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Janie Grey To:passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey all: Anyone out there heard of a band called Janie Grey? If so, what's their style? I have a desperate need to pigeonhole... Thanks Owen Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA ___ Robert A. Russell Director, Writing and Communication Center East Tennessee State University Box 70602 Johnson City, TN 37614 Phone: (423) 439-8438 Fax: (423) 439-8666 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.etsu.edu/wcc *** "Objective evidence and certitude are doubtless very fine ideals to play with but where on this moonlit and dream-visited planet are they found?" -- William James, 1842-1910, "The Will to Believe"
Re: What are the kids listening to today?
Some guy named Neal wrote: Anyway, I was strumming and playing a Dylan tune, a Neil Young tune, Gram Parsons, Husker Du, Woodie Guthrie, whatever. One of the things is not like the other. Ain't it cool that Husker Du can be lumped in with these others? That's what No Depression means to me. I think. Exactly. The Husker stuff works quite well stripped down to the basics. A friend of mine used to throw picking parties full of the kinds of people who give folk a bad name -- lots of guys playing bad versions of Blackbird and The Weight. I used to love playing stuff like Don't Want To Know If You Are Lonely. Dave, who once played some 80s indie rock classics on his living room floor with some guy named Neal *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
Harlan County USA
Can anyone tell me the names of the four songs performed by Hazel Dickens in the documentary "Harlan County USA?" Brad Fackler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dale last night in Columbia MO
BTW, along with the indefatigable Bill Silvers, I was lucky enough to catch a fabulous set by Dale last night in Columbia MO. Dale was his usual charismatic self and the band was in particularly good form, with steel player Ricky responding to enthusiastic hollering with some greater-than usual chicken-pickin' licks, and bass player Billy in rare form because his sister came over from St Louis with an entourage to catch the show. Billy sang a couple of Bob Wills tunes and got in some extra bass licks that had Dale and Ricky grinning and shooting him "whoa!!" looks of surprise. Also learned that drummer Scott was with the Dixie Chicks before going with Dale last August. Hmmm. Overall, in any case, the band was hot hot hot and really tore it up for a modest crowd, more than making up for a less-than-inspiring set by openers The Blacks. P2ers will be interested to note that Dale was already talking up his Twangfest appearance from the stage!! He thanked a local Americana station (KKCA FM in Fulton, MO) and told the crowd he'd be back in June for "that Twangfest thing, at the Off Broadway in St Louis." Bill Silvers and friend and I ended up in an all-night diner listening to Buddy Holly on the jukebox and debating with the waitress whether the lineoeum pattern on our tabletop would have been more flattering on Nancy Sinatra or Ann-Margret. The waitress was all for Nancy, but I know she was *wrong* g. All in all, as Bill said, it was like a little whiff of SXSW. Just enough recovery time to go back at it. Can't wait to see Dale at Twangfest, need I say. Good luck good truckin' tonight, --junior
Re: Lila kicks butt
From: Jon Weisberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just heard Lila McCann's first single from her new album, and it's a dandy; Hunted it down and played it on the show tis morning. To me, it seems like they made an effort to get a real good steel and fiddle lick in the break to offset the pop sound prevalent in the rest of the song. The beginning seems a straight clone of one of Shania's patented twin (triple, quad) fiddle pumped up to the max openers. Not bad but by no means a move towards true traditionalism. On the other hand, I started playing Heather Myles a couple of weeks into the new gig and she's become my top requested artist. PERIOD! Mike Hays http://www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net
Re: Lila kicks butt
Mike Hays wrote:
On the other hand, I started playing Heather Myles a
couple
of weeks into the new gig and she's become my top requested artist. PERIOD!
That's cool to hear Mike. Maybe you oughta e-mail the folks at Rounder and let
them know...I saw HM at SXSW last Friday night (she was great) and the label guy
was still making a brave face of how the new single ("Love Me A Little Bit
Longer" ?) would do, but Ms. Myles was sorta downcast...itsa damn shame I say.
b.s.
n.p. Neal Casal FIELD RECORDINGS
Re: Dale last night in Columbia MO
Overall, in any case, the band was hot hot hot and really tore it up for a modest crowd, more than making up for a less-than-inspiring set by openers The Blacks. Dale makes it into Richmond Va next Friday night, 9:30 at the Moondance and it's my great pleasure to bring my band in for a short opening set of authentic honky tonk (my lead player is 67 or 68). Here's hoping anyone within reasonable driving distance can make it. Come early, family and friends of my band and I will undoubtedly fill up half the joint since it's my first gig in Richmond in 10 years or better. Need directions, catch me off list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope to see ya there! What a great way to send Wall out to seag Come on out Jeff! Mike Hays http://www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net
Re: Lila kicks butt
the label guy
was still making a brave face of how the new single ("Love Me A Little Bit
Longer" ?) would do, but Ms. Myles was sorta downcast...itsa damn shame I
say.
It is a damn shame cause that's the song that has lit the fires and of
course after that they want to hear more so I oblige. The song is better
than just about any female cut on the chart right now but until
Rounder/Mercury decide to pony up the heavy dollars for promotion, there's
just no way they'll get past the HNC gatekeepers. If she'll hang in there
the music will come around to what she's doing. The industry just can't
sustain the level of radio and record declines of the past 2 years much
longer. They are holding on to the hope that they can lure back the
teenyboppers but I don't see it happening, besides, the kids that call me
want Hag, Jones, Owens and more of the new traditonal. And I'm talking 15
year olds!
Mike Hays
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Please Visit Then let us know what you think!
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Re: Lila kicks butt
Heather Myles (was: RE: Lila kicks butt)
Following up on Tera's hint from yesterday (?), I picked up the latest issue of Country Song Roundup this morning; there's a nice one-pager on Heather, in which she discusses CMT's airplay of the video for "True Love," her belief that "radio could be a little more diverse," etc. Interesting comment on her "real extensive radio tour to promote the album," and how "Rounder very much believes in the Americana format, but they also see me as a mainstream act, and I think radio was appreciatve of that." (BTW, the Myles story is followed by another one-pager on Son Volt, which is followed by the centerfold pic of Shania Twain. other P2-ish stuff covered includes Allison Moorer, Ray Charles, Danni Leigh, Hank Williams and a *bunch* more. I wish the writing were better...) Also, something that I don't think has been mentioned here yet is that Myles took one of the British CMA awards a couple of days ago: Best Artist On An Independent Label. Finally, I got word of a not-yet-confirmed May appearance by Myles that I'll post as soon as it's nailed down. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: Lila kicks butt
Mike: They are holding on to the hope that they can lure back the teenyboppers but I don't see it happening, besides, the kids that call me want Hag, Jones, Owens and more of the new traditonal. And I'm talking 15 year olds! Hmmm. Now that's some good news from the radio front, and a hell of a lot better than the swing craze, imho g. BTW, Dale had very young (i.e, early-20s hipster kids) adoring fans here last night. They were all over the stage to talk with the band after the set, etc. Along with 60-somethings who brought CD covers to be autogrphed a la Fan Fair, and so on. Quite an impressive spread in his audience. So maybe the decline in the HNC demographic is indeed, as Jon W suggested, the best thing that can be happening right now. --jr.
Re: Heather Myles (was: RE: Lila kicks butt)
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 26-Mar-99 Heather Myles (was: RE: Lil.. by "Jon Weisberger"@fuse.ne Finally, I got word of a not-yet-confirmed May appearance by Myles that I'll post as soon as it's nailed down. She's opening for John Anderson at a basketball arena (A.J. Paulmbo Center) in Pittsburgh April 18, and I think they're doing a few other dates on the east coast. Carl Z.
SXSW-Austin Chronicle piece
Unable to let SXSW go, and trying in vain to remember every last detail of the blur, g> I visited the Austin Chronicle site and saw the Dancing About Architecture column: http://www.auschron.com/current/music.dancing.html which has some interesting stuff about the Mike Ness/Continental Club fiasco, the Stubb's rainout Thursday (oh boy), and further support for Junior's contention that wristbands are a waste of time and money. b.s.
RE: Heather Myles (was: RE: Lila kicks butt)
Finally, I got word of a not-yet-confirmed May appearance by Myles that I'll post as soon as it's nailed down. She's opening for John Anderson at a basketball arena (A.J. Paulmbo Center) in Pittsburgh April 18, and I think they're doing a few other dates on the east coast. She's touring a reasonable amount out this way - she'll be in Cincinnati on 5/7 - but this unconfirmed one will be something a bit special if it comes off. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: Guadalcanal Diary
In a message dated 3/26/99 10:27:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: s "Live at Your Birthday Party" the new Guadalcanal Diary album to which There is another in the works -- that was recorded "live" at Smiths Old Bar or the Roxy or somewhere in Atlanta. Let me do some digging this weekend and see what's up. Deb
RE: Lila kicks butt
Mike Hays says: Just heard Lila McCann's first single from her new album, and it's a dandy; Hunted it down and played it on the show tis morning. To me, it seems like they made an effort to get a real good steel and fiddle lick in the break to offset the pop sound prevalent in the rest of the song. The beginning seems a straight clone of one of Shania's patented twin (triple, quad) fiddle pumped up to the max openers. I haven't heard the kickoff yet - I heard most of the single again today; I expect I'm going to hear it a *lot* more g - but that's certainly the fiddle sound. Pop sound, I guess; I'm enough of a wuss in some ways to take it for granted that even those artists and cuts I like that I consider to be solid contemporary country just aren't going to sound like the "classics" - even The Key doesn't, in many ways - and it seems to me that this cut falls right into that category of "reasonable update for the 90s and beyond." Anyhow, that is some hot steel playing; I'd say it was Garrish from the tone, but that Paul Franklin is such a brilliant chameleon that I'm not 100% sure. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Clip-Wacos Saturday night
Junior, you should have showed up... T HE WACO BROTHERS Jazz Bon Temps, Saturday, March 20 Who'd have thought that six men in black from Chicago, sporting such musical pedigrees as Jesus Jones and the Mekons, could bust out such shit-kickin' rock and keep a country tinge to it? It's a fine line, especially when you think back to the days when "country rock" meant overly long, watered-down songs about horses and sunsets. No eight-track trips to the Hotel California here, though; just six guys who rock as hard as bands did back in Ye Olde Punke Rocke Days of Yore, the bastard child of The Clash and Hank Williams left on the doorstep with a note that reads "Fuck you" pinned to its cowboy-shirt swaddlin' clothes. Their version of the spooky classic "The Wreck on the Highway," in particular, is not to be missed, informed as it is with jungle drums and Jon Langford's Joe Strummer-ish yowl. Younger players could take a lesson from Langford on how to come across onstage; indeed, the whole band was as animated as if they were standing in puddles and getting 110-volt jolts from their instruments. At a time when alt.country bands increasingly lean toward tepid vocals, languid playing, and gentle singer-songwriterish sentiments, a band like the Waco boys is a welcome blast of whiskey-tinged fresh air. They may not have cut it on the Grand Ol' Opry back in the Sixties, but they take country elements and give 'em the jumper-cable treatment that should have come along years before. No jaded hipsters standing 20 feet back from the stage with their arms folded smoking cigarettes; no tight-Wrangler country poseurs either that night -- just excited, sweaty rock fans crowding the front of the stage like the Wacos were Elvis and it was '57 again. Not an easy feat in 1999. -- Jerry Renshaw
Steve Earle Chicago
Went to the show with Steve and Del last night. Believe everything you have heard. It was terrific. 2 sets 3 hours. I just got back from Border's saw the show 1/2 hour. Got some autographs. Happy camper!!! Chicago Dave Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Clip-Wacos Saturday night
Good clip, Bill. Yeah, this does look like one show I wish I'd seen The Wacos are always good to clear your sinuses out after too many singer-songwriters, thats fer sure. --jr.
RE: Clip-Wacos Saturday night
...the bastard child of The Clash and Hank Williams left on the doorstep with a note that reads "Fuck you" pinned to its cowboy-shirt swaddlin' clothes. Aw, I thought we were through with that kind of stuff. They may not have cut it on the Grand Ol' Opry back in the Sixties, but they take country elements and give 'em the jumper-cable treatment that should have come along years before. Someone ought to take that "Fuck you" note and pin it to Mr. Renshaw's swaddlin' clothes; seems to me like even a lot of Waco Brothers fans would agree that country music don't need no jumper cables, thankyewverymuch. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
RE: Clip-Wacos Saturday night
...the bastard child of The Clash and Hank Williams left on the doorstep with a note that reads "Fuck you" pinned to its cowboy-shirt swaddlin' clothes. Jon wrote: Aw, I thought we were through with that kind of stuff. Ha. Wait'll you see the press release I'm going to write for the Prospect Hill/Holsum show Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
Re: boot me baby, but don't sell it
Joe Gracey wrote: One last thought. Even though tape trading may be harmless and not for profit, there is still something there that bugs me. All I have to sell is my music. If my music goes around endlessly for free, am I not being deprived of compensation for what I do? I am not angry or blustering about this, just slightly confused by it. Given that radio is now a complete failure at exposing new or more marginal artists, trading tapes around is one of the few ways people have to share music with others. CD stores can also help in this and let you listen to a CD before you decide to buy it. But most CD stores won't let you sample things and a lot of CD buyers are squeamish about buying a CD with an opened wrapper, as if you were sharing used needles or something. At one point I regularly compiled my latest favorites on tapes and sent them to my friends. People got to hear a lot of music they wouldnt have otherwise, and in the end bought a lot of CDs they never would have bought. Unless a record is overhyped and sucks, I think sharing music leads to more sales rather than fewer, because people will buy things that they would probably not have risked forking over the money for. While I can understand Joe's wanting to control what of his performances get released, I think that tape trading (when it doesnt involve bootlegging) is ultimately better for the music world. I'm not quite sure what I think about distributing tapes of live shows. Again, Joe's objections make sense. But on the other hand I think that at the moment of performing, one is, in a sense, releasing the music. One certainly does to all ears who are there listening. There's not a whole lot of control you can exercise at that point if things are coming out right. I'm not sure that taping makes that any worse. And if taping has those side benefits that Bob mentioned -- that one might be able to hear a performance by an artist who he has not been able to see -- then I find it hard to blankly criticize it. (The gravity of this problem is particularly acute now that I'm here in Denver, which most touring bands seem to keep south of when they head out to the West Coast.) Will Miner Denver, CO
Re: Clip-Wacos Saturday night
At a time when alt.country bands increasingly lean toward tepid vocals, languid playing, and gentle singer-songwriterish sentiments Oh, for fuck's sake, they do not. Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
Mike Ness
So did anyone see Mike Ness w/ the Rev's band at SxSW? And is there any update on this long-talked-about solo record? Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
Re: Clip-Wacos Saturday night
Yes there's some cliched, cookie-cutter rhetoric in the article, but I just read it as an attempt by this writer to say that the Wacos were extremely rockin' on Saturday night. Which sounds entirely plausible and which I've heard from some other folks who were there, etc. Another writer who needs to be sent to the P2 reeducation camp g --junior
Dennis McGuire is alive and well
Someone (Dave?) asked about him recently -- Dennis turned up at Steve and Del's instore today. (Said he walked past me last night at the Vic, but I was too deep in another conversation to interrupt.) He's doing well and should soon have a new email address -- he changed jobs and his new work email setup wasn't robust enough for P2's demands. Once his home cable modem is set up, he says he'll try to get back on the list. But in the meantime, he said to say hey. Bob
Re: Clip-Wacos Saturday night
On Friday some geek named Renshaw wrote: At a time when alt.country bands increasingly lean toward tepid vocals, languid playing, and gentle singer-songwriterish sentiments, a band like the Waco boys is a welcome blast of whiskey-tinged fresh air. Yawn. I dont know if you've ever stood downwind from a drunk but "welcome blast" is not likely what you'd be thinking about his breath. Although that's maybe a good analogy for a band who does a Joe Strummer-ish "Wreck on the Highway." I think I might opt for a tepid and gentle version myself. Will Miner Denver, CO
Re: What are the kids listening to today?
On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Dave Purcell wrote: Exactly. The Husker stuff works quite well stripped down to the basics ... snip ... I used to love playing stuff like Don't Want To Know If You Are Lonely. I always have thought that if a song is a great song it should still work on just a bare acoustic guitar. The only exceptions are songs that are really better done on a bare acoustic piano. The Huskers were once upon a time some pretty good songwriters, and that's why I'd bet you could play a Huskers song in the middle of songs by Dylan, Woody, Neil Young and so on and if you didnt know the song you'd never guess. Will Miner Denver, CO
Re: Clip-Wacos Saturday night
All of which reminds me of my favorite comic moment from SXSW: Wacos are playing their Bloodshot Party closing set at Yard Dog and they start a song with the following piece of banter: Jon: this next tune is called 'Fire Down Below' . . . Female P2er (gesturing towards her croch): hey John I got yer fire down below . . . Jon (Without a moment's thought): you musta been who I caught it from . . . -jim
Re: Clip-Wacos Saturday night
Will Miner wrote: On Friday some geek named Renshaw wrote: At a time when alt.country bands increasingly lean toward tepid vocals, languid playing, and gentle singer-songwriterish sentiments, a band like the Waco boys is a welcome blast of whiskey-tinged fresh air. Yawn. I dont know if you've ever stood downwind from a drunk but "welcome blast" is not likely what you'd be thinking about his breath. I don't think he meant "breath" Will, though a more southerly approach might have applied, considering the crowd I suppose... Although that's maybe a good analogy for a band who does a Joe Strummer-ish "Wreck on the Highway." I think I might opt for a tepid and gentle version myself. Ignorance is bliss I guess. Wish you'd been there though. I'd have bought you a beer and I probably wouldn't have breathed whiskey on you, though you never know...g b.s.
Re: What are the kids listening to today?
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 26-Mar-99 Re: What are the kids liste.. by Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Huskers were once upon a time some pretty good songwriters, and that's why I'd bet you could play a Huskers song in the middle of songs by Dylan, Woody, Neil Young and so on and if you didnt know the song you'd never guess Another plus for the Huskers is that Grant Hart's songs (like Don't Want To Know If You Are Lonely) are both catchy and relatively simple to play. Oftentimes he'd use no more than four chords. Dunno that the "if a song is a great song it should still work on just a bare acoustic guitar" rule is a universal one, though I agree with it much of the time. Aside from LL Cool J's amazing acoustic rendition of "Mama Said Knock You Out", there aren't a whole lot of hiphop songs that would sound good on acoustic guitar. Carl Z.
For Elliott Smith fans, from the Boston Globe
Tunesmith to the miserable By Joan Anderman, Globe Correspondent, 03/26/99 Elliott Smith is not a junkie. He's not desperately messed-up, at least not any more than anyone else. He claims to have written a happy song, and believes that his music seems a bit darker than most because for one thing, he doesn't have a band, and for another, he wouldn't dream of singing contrived lyrics that don't mean anything to him. So explains the singer-songwriter on the phone from his hotel room in Nashville, a recent stop on a national tour that will bring him to the Roxy in Boston Monday. "For a while it seemed like everyone was asking me why I was so depressed. But I can't do anything about what people read into the songs. If people are constantly going to be putting someone under a microscope, then that person is either going to quit what they're doing, or get good at not being bothered by it." Still, it's not hard to see why Smith has been cast in the role of tunesmith to the downtrodden alt-crowd. His records are filled with unflinching, emotionally raw portraits of drug addicts and alcoholics, and spare, poetic sketches of self-loathing and decayed love. Gorgeously tragic words are melded to melodies that are as simultaneously lush and forthright, and as inevitable-sounding, as those crafted by Smith's great inspiration, the Beatles. Smith sings in a wispy, fragile voice; on his most recent album, "XO," he thickens the sensitive-misfit-and-his-guitar aesthetic with piano and strings, drums, and chamberlain. The album is a triumph of bittersweet pop poetry, and wound up on countless Top Ten lists (including this writer's) for 1998. "At first I thought of it as storytelling. It's never seemed confessional to me, but that's what people call me," says Smith, a soft-spoken 29-year-old. "I don't need people to understand what it is to be me. It's more like dreams ... pieces are me and pieces are other people and pieces are some character I'm making up." However blurred the line between experience and imagination may be, the product of Smith's craft is extraordinarily precise. Listening to the songs is as lonely and solitary an endeavor as the lives his characters lead. Even the instrumental embellishments of "XO" - which might easily have cluttered the bleak emotional landscape Smith painted with stark arrangements on three previous albums - lend a powerful grace to Smith's narratives. "Some people who really like stripped-down music were like, 'Hey, why'd you have to go and pile on all this crap. You should have just played the songs,"' recalls Smith, who recently moved from Portland, Ore., to Brooklyn. Previously on the Olympia, Wash.-based Kill Rock Stars label, Smith was signed last year to DreamWorks, which released "XO." But he insists that high-profile corporate backing and its reciprocal demands had nothing to do with the fleshed-out sound of "XO," but rather everything to do with growing as a musician. "It's sort of boring to do the same thing over and over that you already know you can do. For me, it was a new thing to try and use more instruments, even though it makes it sound more normal in a way. A lot of times when people use strings, for example, they turn out sappy and sentimental. That just makes it more fun to try to use strings in a way that's better than that. I like being in an area where things are discredited, and to try to put life into it." Even as a child, Smith found himself drawn to the cracks that rend a polished surface, preferring a skewed musical angle over the smooth flow of a song. With time, he's learned the power of merging the two. "When I was a kid my favorite thing about songs was when they would change from one part to another," says Smith, who began writing songs when he was 13. "So I would make up all of these transitions and put them together. They were really linear and phosphorous, and didn't repeat enough to be songs. They had lots of chords. Too many. But I learned a lot about transitions." To wit, Smith's favorite Beatles song is the epically twisted "A Day In The Life." His fondest memory - and this tells you a lot about Smith's subject matter - is of when he started going out with his ex-girlfriend. Smith's songs are so painfully wistful one has to wonder if the songwriter sees them as a way of reaching out, or if the process is rather one of retreat from a world that supplies such tragic fodder. "That's something I've actually thought about quite a bit," muses Smith. "I've come to no conclusion. It's something I've done for so long it's just kind of built in." What of the music fan who derives deep pleasure, such a good feeling, after all, from such sad songs? "I think when people feel bad they often lose touch with reality, and they think they're unique in a bad way. So then they hear these songs, and it's like when you get upset and you talk to your friends so that someone can go 'this happened to me, too.'" With a figurehead as eloquent as Smith speaking
Re: Clip-Wacos Saturday night
James Gerard Roll wrote: Female P2er (gesturing towards her croch): hey John I got yer fire down below . . . Jon (Without a moment's thought): you musta been who I caught it from I don't think we need to hide the identity of our lovely Cherry Lou although I'm sure everyone knew who this particular female was.
RE: What are the kids listening to today?
Speaking of LL Cool J accoustic hip hop songs, another good one: Luka Bloom's version of "I Need Love" -Original Message- From: Carl Abraham Zimring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 26, 1999 1:58 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: What are the kids listening to today? Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: Dunno that the "if a song is a great song it should still work on just a bare acoustic guitar" rule is a universal one, though I agree with it much of the time. Aside from LL Cool J's amazing acoustic rendition of "Mama Said Knock You Out", there aren't a whole lot of hiphop songs that would sound good on acoustic guitar. Carl Z.
Re: Mike Ness
Dave Purcell wrote: So did anyone see Mike Ness w/ the Rev's band at SxSW? And is there any update on this long-talked-about solo record? Dave Sounds pretty good. Release date is April 13th on Time Bomb. Bill Lavery http://villagerecords.com
Re: Clip-Wacos Saturday night
Sez some non-P2 reviewer: At a time when alt.country bands increasingly lean toward tepid vocals, languid playing, and gentle singer-songwriterish sentiments Sez Mr. Purcell: Oh, for fuck's sake, they do not. Good to have your trenchant insights back on the list, Dave. This is beautiful! Kelly
Soul Asylum in New Orleans
Apparently, They are playing the House of Blues in New Orleans on April 10. Ticketmaster is selling the tickets which are general admission. I don't know what this is for, or if it's definite or anything, but I really want to go and would be willing to get together a road trip or something if anyone else wants to go. Did y'all see the write-up in Request Magazine about SA's internet fans...??? Dancer
House Concert clarification
I realise from the number of emails I got today that I wasn't clear on my last email announcing the house concerts. Sorry. Let me try again. I was just letting you know about some shows that will be coming up at Pine Hill Farm. The tickets are *not yet* on sale. In the email I told you the days the tickets would be on sale. Perhaps, I buried it in too much other information. So, to get tickets email me on that day, not now. If you emailed me and asked to reserve a ticket, please email again with the shows go on sale. I'm going to disregard those emails. Sorry about all that. Cheers. Steve -- Steve Gardner - Topsoil: A Century of Twang - Sun. 12-3pm WXDU 88.7FM Durham NC and on the Net at www.wxdu.duke.edu * [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.topsoil.net *
Re: Clip-Wacos Saturday night
I'm glad their live show was good, or at least that y'all enjoyed it. Personally, I wouldn't have even bothered. I thought their latest disc, Wacoworld, totally sucked ass. I would of given anything to see Billy Joe Shaver, Cisco, and Ray Wylie Hubbard though. You lucky bastards. I did get to see Cletus T Judd, Glen Duncan, and hang out with the lovely and talented Elena Skye though. Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 3421 Daisy Crescent - Va Beach, Va - 23456
Re: Ray Price
Hey there, On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:35:42 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Man, how big your balls gotta be to drive on to Ray Price's ranch and arrest him for reefer? Mount pleasant ain't exactly a huge town, and Ray Price didn't just move in. He's got to be MP's best known citizen. How the hell did this happen I wonder? Maybe the cops didnt like strings. Thank you, goodnight. Later... CK here all week, two shows ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Steve 'n' Del
Hey there, Saw the Steve Earle and Del McCoury tour (again) in Chicago last night. I already prattled on about the Nashville shows so now I just have a question. Those of you who have seen the tour elsewhere, what type of reception is Del getting? Last night is wasnt so hot. Just Steve - everyone paying rapt attention Steve plus Bluegrass - everyone paying rapt attention Just Bluegrass - feels like intermission Kinda felt sorry for they guy(s). Later... CK Earle "Bluegrass is the original alt.country" Soron "Western Swing!" ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: What are the kids listening to today?
On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Carl Abraham Zimring wrote: Dunno that the "if a song is a great song it should still work on just a bare acoustic guitar" rule is a universal one, though I agree with it much of the time. Aside from LL Cool J's amazing acoustic rendition of "Mama Said Knock You Out", there aren't a whole lot of hiphop songs that would sound good on acoustic guitar. Well, and I did mean to make a distinction between "a great song" and "a great record." A lot of great records are made with what are otherwise weak songs or songs not at all. Probably a lot of hip-hop would fall into that category because the medium isnt based around songs so much as a kind of aural graffiti art. Still, it works a lot of times you wouldnt expect. For example, I have a CD single of the Fugees' "Vocab," which consists of about six versions of the song, one of which is acoustic; that's the best version, I think. I can also imagine getting away with bluesy versions of "Fight the Power" or "The Message," to name a couple off the top of my head. Will Miner Denver, CO
Extra recommendations from SXSW
OK...just a few recommendations and bits of quiet good news from what I saw and heard dopwn there...People we OUGHT to get to hera more of, I think... Monte Warden. Big return week for him, as a cxloser with buddies the Robison bros and Kelly Willis at thge awards, and a strong set at the Broken Spoke Thursday night of SXSW with James Intveld on keyboards...I'd highly rcommend his new CD "A Stranger to Me Now" too...which is a brnad new 1959-60 post-rockabilly pop album...which is to say, in the tradition of Roy Orbison, Phil Everly and Buddy Hollymelodic and dramatic. Marshall Crenshaw fans will probably go for it too. Live, he also showed he could hit the rockabilly twanger with some slashing guitar dramatics--which, by my definition, you have to be able to do to do THIS brnad of non-rockabilly convincingly. Lonelyland. Caught these guys in the Convention Hall one afternoon. Led by Austin guy Bob Schneider, who'd appently has led a bunch of funk bands before, here comes up with a unique and engaging laid back-and grinning by the fishin' hole style that I certainly hope will find a recording home...A very modern twist on what I'd call the traditions of Hoagy Carmichael/Phil Harris singing...ya know, Rockin Chair's Got Me! Henhouse The all-star Austin women musical extravaganza (Rosie Flores, Marcia Ball, Cindy Cashdollar, etc.)...and boy, are they capable and roudy and ought to be a real ongoing group...Fronting Wanda Jackson--who basically sounds excatly like she did 40+ years ago at age 62, as roaring and growling as ever..they were maybe even stronger. Continental Drifters Saw their really strong set at the Music Hall and their appearance at the ND/Miles of Weisses Broken Spoke event--where they finished off with an exhuberant version of the Fairport Convention arrangement of Matty Groves...This is maybe the most talent almost utterly unheard bunch of folk rock pros (if I can use that term; it seems right) that ought to be stars again I can think of. They rock and they sing. And the former Miss Cowsill was surley the only one at SXSW with Top Tens Hits when she was five... Alvin Youngblood Hart Right up there among the very best young acoustic blue men around...he proved rather remote from the audience live--and then showed off what he coulkd do with some electricity in an absolutely rousing and rhythmically unforgettablke version of, of all things, John Fogerty's "Pagan Baby"...After it was all over, this one kept coming back into me head..anmd I hope he'll do an electric blues album now. Beaver Nelson OK..I thought he was David and Ricky's unknown little brother, The Beaver...but Corrie Weiss warned me he was really good ...and he was...really set the stage for the remarkable Mr. Cisco... I'll add my nod to the "hillbilly Idol" i a good band list...especially lie their songwriting...and to those who had nice things to say about Michael Hall and thre Brooders (best loud band I heard there, plus he looks like Lou Reed and Woody Guthrie's half brother!)...and while I only caughtn three Hank Dogs songs, I'd have to ay, on the other hand, they were very boring even briefly...Best unscheduled xtra good time was on that parking lot in South Austin where Doug Sahm and Johnny Bush joined Cornell Hurd and the Hollisters for some harder stuff in the morning...I am also now the owner of an officially endorsed Cornell Hurd Band Whoopee Cushion, and you can't have enough of those. Barry
Re: Steve 'n' Del
Sez Chris of the Chicago show: Just Steve - everyone paying rapt attention Steve plus Bluegrass - everyone paying rapt attention Just Bluegrass - feels like intermission Kinda felt sorry for they guy(s). I saw the instore today, and besides enjoying it thoroughly, I came away with new respect for Del's ego. The crowd was totally into the McCourys - no problem there - but he spends a great deal of time hanging around in the back while Steve handles guitar chores and sings songs that could use IMO a little high harmony. Yeah, yeah, I know this is bringing Del's music and *bluegrass as a whole* to new audiences, blah, blah, blah, but the man's a front man, and I respect his equanimity in hanging back and letting the others have the show for a whole tour. Many others would be champing at the bit. For the record: I ain't knocking Mr. Earle. I'm way big on that boy. Just musing, is all. Kelly P.S. Favorite Steve Earle quote: On having trouble keeping his guitar tuned, "This guitar is so new, it still thinks it's a tree."
Re: boot me baby, but don't sell it
Reading today's digest, looks like this topic has pretty much blown by, but as a digester, I reserve the right to flog the dead horse a little. g Joe Gracey (and I) wrote: What's got me about this discussion is the doublethink. I'm not supposed to have this live music that I didn't "pay" the artist for-- This was not my, at least, point. Whether a live tape is free or not is not the issue with me. All I ask is the courtesy of a veto over a bad show, or for that matter for any reason whatsoever, since I insist on my right as an artist to control what happens with my art. Pretty simple concept. Simple? Yes and no. If we're talking about some session you recorded and never released, I'd agree--yes, simple, you should have the only say in whether that music gets circulated beyond the confines of your studio. If we're talking about that show you played in public last night, I'd say no, it's not that simple. Let's say you think last night's show wasn't one of your finer performances and that you wouldn't want someone to hear it on tape. Did you give everyone at the show their money back, or announce for the stage, "Oh jeez, people, forget everything you heard up here tonight. Come back for free tomorrow night and we'll try to give you a better show." (I know from talking to musicians that there are nights that they may feel that way, but no one's ever offered a refund at any show I attended. And yeah, I've heard a few that to describe them as "off nights" would be very kind.) So what makes that performance good enough for those people in the venue, but not good enough for me to listen to at home? No one listening to a live tape is expecting to hear hundred-take in-studio perfection. We couldn't go to the show, you didn't come to us, but we'd like to hear you perform a show anyway. You presented this music to those people at the club, so what's so different about presenting it to me in my living room (via a tape deck)? While I don't have any passionate feeling about tapes floating around out there and consider them mostly harmless in practical terms, I do have an uneasiness about them insofar as they may violate my right to control how my art is exposed to the public. But Joe, weren't you exposing your art to the public in that show that my hypothetical buddy recorded? Last fall, Richard Thompson toured and played a number of new songs that will presumably be coming up on this spring's new album. He was very much against these shows being taped, because he wanted the songs "to be new to everyone" when the album appears. Okay, so playing those songs to maybe 10,000 people on the tour is somehow going to keep the music "new," but having 200 or so fanatics hear them via the tapes will not? Maybe I'm just a simpleton, but if Thompson didn't want people to hear those songs until the album came out, then what was he doing playing them in public performance? It seems to me that it's pretty easy for industry weasels g who enjoy lots of free music to cast stones at a music exchange medium that they don't participate in. I don't really see how promo music relates to tape trading. Promos fall entirely within the confines of what I am talking about, the artist's right to control how his music is presented. You must have more artistic control than many performers. I hear about bands that have no say in what songs get released on promos or the full- length releases, have the promos charged against royalties, and then have industry-connected weasels sell them off to used CD stores or collectors. I don't see a lot of difference between the industry weasel selling a promo CD and the bootleg weasel selling a live CD-R, except that one's selling music performed for public consumption via a recording studo, and the other's selling something performed for public consumption via a club. They're both weasels. But I see another similarity between a promo CD and a live tape-- in a best case scenario, both can increase the exposure of an artist and lead to someone buying a commercial release or attending a show. Worst case, the tape collector doesn't like the tape or the band and doesn't buy a CD. . . but the promo CD gets sold to a used CD shop, who sells it to a customer *in place* of a commercial release that the customer might otherwise have purchased. Does the first case represent a loss to the musician? Only if the tape collector would have purchased the CD if he hadn't heard the tape. The second case surely does. (And I'll join the musicians in their everyone-should-pay-for-every- note-they-hear argument if they join me in my campaign, as a writer, to close down every library, used book store store, copying machine, scanner, and the like, so that every person who reads my work has to pay for it. It's only fair.) I have often wrestled with this similarity. How is a used book store any different than a used CD store? It seems to me that to
Re: What are the kids listening to today?
In a message dated 3/26/99 8:22:47 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Still, it works a lot of times you wouldnt expect. For example, I have a CD single of the Fugees' "Vocab," which consists of about six versions of the song, one of which is acoustic; that's the best version, I think. I can also imagine getting away with bluesy versions of "Fight the Power" or "The Message," to name a couple off the top of my head. Dionne Farris did an acoustic version of her hit "I Know" that was pure acoustic funky soul. There is a videotape of Seal doing acoustic versions of some of the dance songs from his first album, and many of his CD singles have acoustic versions of his hits in addition to non-album tracks. I can't think of a single one that doesn't work amazingly well in that arrangement. Of course, I think Seal rules, so I may be biased. Seal, I mean Slim
Re: Steve 'n' Del
Those of you who have seen the tour elsewhere, what type of reception is Del getting? Last night is wasnt so hot. From where I was sitting at the show's stop in Durham, it seemed that most of the crowd was there specifically to see Del. Not only did he receive quite a reception (one guy even yelled at Steve and the rest to bring Del out during the opening set), but I also spent much of the intermission explaining to neighbors who Steve Earle is. Chad Cosper ** Chad Cosper Dept. of English Univ. of North Carolina at Greensboro 336-275-8576 http://www.uncg.edu/~cscosper
